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tzangerI have a strange problem00:02
tzanger7.10 system, wifi/lan work00:02
tzangerI have an hsdpa (cell) modem that uses pppd that connects just fine (i'm using it right now)... everything but konqueror works00:02
tzangertelnet to port 80 works, lynx works... it's not a proxy/dns issue00:02
tzangerand it's just konqueror (or the ioslaves, not sure)00:02
ramamadhuhi00:03
avihaybtzanger:  have you tryed another browser?00:03
ramamadhuany mythtv user?00:04
ramamadhuhello00:05
nainefhey how do I list all the installed packages?00:05
nainefon the  command lineee00:05
avihaybramamadhu: do you have any experience with mythTV and an IR Transmiter?00:06
crimsunavihayb: asked in #ubuntu-mythtv?00:07
NickPrestanainef, dpkg -l | grep 'ii'    more or less00:07
nainefthank you!00:07
nainefcool...00:09
tzangeravihayb: it's a kde thing; firefox works, lynx works, telnet to port 80 works.00:12
tzangerkopete won't start up the MSN protocol either00:12
tzangerbut jabber and ICQ work00:12
trix`AFKhi guys00:14
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trix`AFKCan anyone help me install Gentoo with no CD burner no network (I do have internet tho) and nothing but a 123MB USB flash drive?00:14
trix`AFKI've spent hours searching forums and websites and everything I find requires a bigger USB drive00:14
tzangeraha!00:14
tzangerit's a bug!00:14
tzangerif networkmanager shows there is no connection, konqueror/etc doesn't try00:15
NickPrestatrix`AFK, the gentoo channel is that way ->00:15
tzangerI turned on my wifi connection and deleted the default route, networkmanager is happy now but traffic is going through my cell modem00:15
avihaybah00:15
coreymon77ooh, haha, wifi issues!00:15
coreymon77my type of problem00:15
coreymon77tzanger: whats the matter?00:16
tzangercoreymon77: nope not wifi00:16
trix`AFKI tried there, they are busy helping another guy :-/  lol I'm willing to use Kubuntu if I can get it up and running00:16
NickPrestatrix`AFK, we're more than glad to help with Kubuntu but Gentoo problems will have to go to #gentoo. :)00:16
coreymon77trix`AFK: erm, order a cd from canonical?00:16
coreymon77trix`AFK: or get a new computer :P00:17
trix`AFKlol, thanks, but is there any other way (like using the USB drive) that doesn't require $$ or an extremely long wait?00:17
coreymon77trix`AFK: that small of a usb key? dont think so, im not sure though00:17
trix`AFKall I really need is to be able to boot into a console.  I can take it from there00:18
coreymon77never thought it was possible to but off of a usb key anyways00:18
NickPrestatrix`AFK, there isn't any sort of 'minimal' installation CD, AFAIK.00:18
NickPrestaYou could use DSL00:18
avihaybther's a linux distro called damn small linux, it only takes 50MB00:18
coreymon77ya, but again00:18
coreymon77is it possible to boot from a cd key?00:18
coreymon77i mean00:18
coreymon77usb key00:18
avihaybyes00:18
NickPrestacoreymon77, yeah. I do it all the time at school :)00:19
coreymon77okay then00:19
coreymon77how do you do it nick?00:19
coreymon77and how bigs the key?00:19
trix`AFKNickPresta: DSL as in use my Internet connection?  Or is there some other definition of DSL I'm not aware of?00:19
NickPrestatrix`AFK, you need to download it. it is quite small in size00:19
DragnslcrIf the BIOS can boot from USB00:19
NickPrestacoreymon77, you should have the option in your bios to boot from USB/removable media00:19
avihaybcorymon77: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/00:19
tzangeryep... if knetworkmanager thinks there is no connection, konqueror thinks there is no connection00:19
NickPrestacoreymon77, assuming your bios supports it00:19
tzangerif knetworkmanager thinks there is, things work00:19
coreymon77trix`AFK: or find someone with a burner to burn you a disk00:20
avihaybincluds intructions for ubuntu flavors00:20
DragnslcrI would think any motherboard newer than 2-3 years can boot from USB00:20
trix`AFKcoreymon77:  LiveUSB keys are quite common nowadays actually, tho usually require a drive > 650MB00:20
coreymon77trix`AFK: do you not know anyone with a burner?00:20
trix`AFKI work three jobs and go to college, so while I know all kinds of people that have a cd burner, is it very rare that they are available when I am00:21
coreymon77trix`AFK: you cant get a single person to burn a disk for you?00:21
NickPrestatrix`AFK, I would say you're out of luck then =\00:22
trix`AFKyes, I can, eventually.  Someday.  At the moment though tonight is my only night to work on this for quite awhile, and at the moment I can't find anyone available.  believe me I've tried.00:22
tzangerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/8668000:23
tzangerI think that's what I'm running against00:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 86680 in knetworkmanager "knetworkmanager stops kde applications from accessing the network" [High,In progress]00:23
nainefconcerning that ssl problem a week ago..... does one have to regen ssh system keys?00:24
trix`AFKoh well, I guess I will bite the bullet and go buy a CD burner.  I'm going to want one once I'm set up anyways.00:25
trix`AFKThanks guys00:25
coreymon77trix`AFK: cd burners arent expensive nowadays00:27
navetzcan someone help me with samba, I am trying to connect to my brothers computer (windows vista) and its asking for a username and password, the thing is he doesn't have a username and password.00:27
unix_lappy500GB drives are now the price of burners 5 years ago.00:28
BluesKajnavetz, type smb in konqueror addressbar00:28
nainefnavetz, I cannot see my vista shares via XP, let alone samba00:29
navetzBluesKaj: that says malformed URL00:29
BluesKajsmb:/00:29
navetzBluesKaj: oh ok, I thought you were testing something, anyway I see 2 things MShome and Workgroup, my brothers computer is on workgroup00:30
BluesKajclick on workgroup00:31
navetzBluesKaj: ok00:31
nainefthat was it?00:31
nainefno way00:31
navetzBluesKaj: now I see my brothers pc and my girlfriends00:31
navetzBluesKaj: I click on my brothers and it asks me for a username and password00:32
BluesKajtry MSHome00:32
nainefvista is such a pain in the arse00:32
afeijomy kubuntu lost screen resolution! It now is stuck on 640x480 max!!!00:32
afeijoin a 19' lcd wide is so wierd00:33
orzook00:33
orzoi backed up my stuff and did a fresh install00:33
orzoto my great disapointment, i do not have a fresh desktop00:33
navetzBluesKaj: that just has a folder I set up for vmware00:33
orzoi tried deleting the desktop directory and re-logging in, and now it is using my home directory as my desktop00:33
afeijoany hint?00:33
avihaybafeijo:  maybe the plug and prey resolution detection faild?00:34
orzoi'm not familiar with kde00:34
afeijoavihayb: I'm praying hehehe00:34
orzoi just want it to look like a fresh install00:34
BluesKajyour brothers pc has to be set up for file sharing and sorry, i can't help with vista .00:34
afeijoavihayb: it was on my girls session, I selected to change user, then the login screen show too big00:34
orzonow i can't even make it use the Desktop directory like it used to00:35
orzoit's stuck on the home directory00:35
BluesKajnavetz, did you get that ?00:35
afeijoI rebooted, no change00:35
afeijothere is a command to force redetect?00:35
navetzBluesKaj: oh yea, just got it, thanks for the help.00:36
afeijoor a file to edit?00:36
avihaybafeijo:  so maybe you just need to change the rsolution in her user00:36
afeijoavihayb:  my user too I cant change resolution, stuck on 64000:36
afeijoand down to 50hz00:36
avihaybafeijo:  oh. try to run xrandar in consoul and see how may modes it lists00:37
afeijoxrandar? not found00:37
avihaybsory, xrandr00:38
afeijoScreen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 48000:38
afeijodefault connected 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm00:38
afeijo   640x480        50.0*00:38
afeijo   320x240        51.000:38
afeijobah00:38
avihaybwell, the thing just either dosn't know your screen or your display adapter00:39
afeijobrb00:39
nainefwhat does dmesg say?00:39
avihaybtwo ways I know to solve it00:39
navetzcan someone help me use rsync00:44
orzowhat icons should i see on the desktop with a fresh install?00:44
navetzi am getting the error skipping directory00:45
naineforzo, I don't have any icons on my kde 3.5...900:45
nainefs/\.+/.00:45
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BluesKajorzo, there won't be any icons til you go into the kmenu, right click on an app "add to desktop"00:46
afeijoback00:47
orzothanks00:47
afeijoavihayb: you know what I can do?00:47
avihaybafeijo: I have two ways to solve this00:48
afeijoshut00:48
afeijodont say reinstall ;)00:49
navetzdoes rsync make a mirror of one server to another?00:49
avihaybthe less "destructive" is just going to the kde config manager, going to admin mode, and fixing it...00:49
orzoif i ran something that tried to write settings to /etc/network/interfaces, did i screw everything up with the Network Manager or wahtever it is00:49
orzohow do i recover?00:49
afeijoavihayb: system config icon on kde button? I'm there00:49
avihaybdo you see the display icon?00:50
avihayb"Monitor and display"00:50
afeijoyes00:50
avihaybsory, "Monitor & display"00:50
afeijoonly 640x480 res there00:50
avihaybgo to hardware00:50
afeijovideo board: nvidia00:51
afeijomonitor 1: plug and pray00:51
nainefut oh00:51
avihaybdose the name of your adapter appear more or less in a corect manner?00:51
afeijono test button00:51
afeijojust 'nvidia'00:51
avihaybok. hit the admin mode at the buttom of the applet00:51
nainefhe prolly needs the nvidia driver00:52
afeijook, admin00:52
avihaybeven without, I bet he can pull more then 640x48000:52
afeijonainef: it was working for month, just know it broke00:52
avihaybgo to the configure of the plug and prey00:52
avihaybselect something generic, I'm guessing from the LCD department00:53
afeijoyeah, I did, I need to reboot?00:53
nainefyeah cause the refresh isn't needed on LCD00:53
avihaybnope00:54
avihaybsee of you can change res00:54
afeijono00:54
asobihow do i mount an external drive?00:54
asobiright click -> mount doesn't work00:54
afeijono change to the res option, stuck on 640 :(00:55
avihaybso, maybe it's a driver problem00:55
avihaybwhat monitor did ya pick?00:55
afeijojust stoped work?? without change?00:55
afeijolcd panel 1440x90000:56
avihayboh, maybe you need to restart the x-server00:56
afeijohow to?00:56
avihaybyou can also use test to start a new one00:56
afeijotest button is disabled00:56
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NickPrestaafeijo, to restart X, logout and select Restart X Server from the menu then login00:57
afeijoNickPresta: thanks00:57
afeijoI will try that, be back soon00:57
nainefgood luck00:57
dthackerHow can I move the KDE tool bar from the bottom to the top?00:57
avihaybto restart the x-server, you need to log out. at the logout screen find the restart x-server from the menu, or just hitting ctrl+alt+Backspace00:57
NickPrestadthacker, the panel bar? right click > configure panel > arrangement > select 1 of the top 3 buttons on the square00:58
avihaybeven when useing the key combo, you beter logout first00:58
afeijoheheheheh01:04
afeijoIT WORKED01:04
afeijoits best then before, lol01:04
afeijothanks to you both01:04
afeijomy girl can use different res., if I get the correct picture after talking to you01:04
avihaybafeijo: my other method was useing "dpkg-reconfigure x-server", not reinstalling01:05
linkinxphi!!01:05
afeijoavihayb: oh, nice... reinstall sound like windows lol01:05
avihaybI also recommend you check if your 3d acceleration works properly01:05
NickPrestahi linkinxp01:06
linkinxpi have a few doubts.....how is there a tool for editing KDE? Mouse, i mean in gnome in Systems there is a lot of stuff in kde no :(01:06
linkinxpNickPresta,  :)01:06
NickPrestalinkinxp, what do you mean a tool for editing KDE?01:06
afeijonow, I'll get back to my RPG game ;)01:07
linkinxpi dont know how to explain,, the thing is im having a bad time finding tools to edit the basics01:07
linkinxpi just installed01:07
linkinxpit01:07
NickPrestalinkinxp, in system settings, there are various tools to change the look and functionality of KDE. anything specific?01:07
asobiwhat does mount -t mean?01:07
linkinxpwell the FOcus stuff01:08
linkinxpits annoying01:08
linkinxplol01:08
linkinxpwherever i put the mouse the focus goes there01:08
NickPrestaasobi, the t option is for type. like ntfs, ext3, etc. usually, mount with autodetect.01:08
asobiso just use mount?01:08
NickPrestalinkinxp, you can change focus settings in the Window Behavior area. Change the policy from 'focus under mouse' to 'click to focus'01:09
linkinxpsorry but where its window behavior area?01:09
avihaybin the kde control pannle01:10
NickPrestalinkinxp, I'm not actually on Kubuntu so I'm not sure what it is called in system settings. If you open up kcontrol (press Alt+F2, type in kcontrol) you can search for 'focus'01:10
avihayberr system settings applet...01:10
linkinxplet me see01:11
asobiwhat's the command to format?01:11
avihaybmakefs?01:12
NickPrestaasobi, to remove all data or format a partition/drive with a specific filesystem?01:12
asobihmm01:12
asobijust got an external01:12
asobiit's ntfs i think01:12
asobido i want to use something else?01:12
linkinxpi got it :)01:13
linkinxplet me restart X01:13
linkinxpcause i change the video drivers01:13
linkinxpand another question should i put Compiz?01:13
linkinxpor KWIN?01:13
linkinxpo what?01:13
NickPrestaasobi, ntfs is fine if you plan on having Windows read/write to it. GNU+Linux can read/write ntfs with the ntfs-3g driver.01:13
NickPrestaasobi, otherwise, if you're only using Kubuntu, you can use ext301:14
asobijust using kubuntu01:14
asobii am using all sorts of systems....fat32, ntfs @_@01:15
NickPrestaasobi, ext3 sounds like a fine choice. you can use mkfs (mkfs -t ext3 ...) or you can use something like gparted to select your external drive and format it however you like01:15
asobiso how do i format?01:15
linkinxpso? what should i use?01:15
linkinxp:-s01:15
NickPrestalinkinxp, compiz or kwin for what?01:15
linkinxpfor pretty stuff01:16
linkinxpjajaajaja01:16
NickPrestalinkinxp, well, it is a personal preference. compiz-fusion is nice. type: "/msg ubottu compiz-fusion" (without quotes) for more information01:16
linkinxpi put it01:17
linkinxpbut i mean it doesnt have any trouble?01:17
linkinxphow i restar X?01:17
linkinxprestart*01:17
NickPrestalinkinxp, nothing is perfect :) It shouldn't cause too much trouble, if any. If you have a problem with it, you can uninstall/not use it.01:17
linkinxpi see01:18
NickPrestato restart X, logout and select 'Restart X Server' from the login menu.01:18
linkinxpokey let me see what happens with the drivers01:18
linkinxpokey brb01:18
linkinxpthanks01:18
avihayblogout, and then go to restart x-server from the menu, or hit the keycombo ctrl+alt+backspace01:18
suicidiehola, alguien me puede ayudar?01:21
avihayb!es01:21
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:21
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[Relic]Hello :)01:24
[Relic]found out why no one can get 45nm cpu sensor read  :)01:24
avihaybwhy?01:26
[Relic]coretemp.c isn't up-to-date in kernel 2.6.24, but is in 2.6.2501:27
[Relic]no idea how to swipe it and place it into the current kernel though  :(01:28
linkinxpsoo....01:29
linkinxpwhen i put my drivers from the list01:29
linkinxpit crashed everything01:29
linkinxpi had to reconfigure xserver etc01:29
linkinxpand now its back to Vesa01:29
linkinxpwhat am i suppose to do in order to put my correct drivers?01:29
linkinxpIntel 94501:29
avihayblinkinxp: if you can't do it from the kde control center applet, like with the screen, you can do it with a dpkg-reconfigure x-server01:42
avihayblinkinxp: if you can't do it from the kde control center applet, like with the screen, you can do it with a dpkg-reconfigure x-server01:42
tannerare there any decent KDE based testing software?01:42
avihaybk01:43
avihaybtanner: what do you mean by testing software?01:44
tanneravihayb: well, i want to be able to quiz my self. so i would put in a question, possible answers, and the correct answer, and quiz myself01:44
avihaybwell, I know that there are memory card games01:45
avihayband maybe edubunto has a package you can use01:45
avihayb!kwordquiz01:49
ubottuFactoid kwordquiz not found01:49
asobi!automount01:55
ubottuFactoid automount not found01:55
asobi!fstab01:55
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:55
uelhi my name is uel01:59
tuxwulfHow to prevent my screen from freezing after every 5 minutes?02:00
damien_How do I register an IRC name?02:05
BonesolTeraDyne!register | damien_02:05
ubottudamien_: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.02:05
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StultusApparatusWhen do I choose my password?02:06
daemon3I have installed every nonfree codec for Ubuntu above and below the sun.  How in the world do I transfer iTunes files (m4p / m4a) into mp3?02:06
BonesolTeraDyneStultusApparatus: Read the FAQ in the link ubottu supplied02:06
BonesolTeraDyneIt'll tell you everything02:06
StultusApparatusOk02:06
StultusApparatusWhat's the social channel for #kubuntu?02:10
p_quarlesStultusApparatus, it's in the topic notice . . .02:10
StultusApparatusOh, sorry.02:10
daemon3Is it possible to convert iTunes files to mp3?  I'm using a Linux system.02:12
StultusApparatusI need to install GStreamer to play music in Songbird, but I'm not sure if I have debian or whatever02:24
se7enStultusApparatus: you are in kubuntu so you should have at least a debian based system02:28
tzangerquick question about udev rules...  How would I execute a KDE program with a udev rule?  I need to run as a particular user (sudo, not a problem) but also pick up which X display to use02:30
tzangerI can make a pretty good guess but that's not quite what I"m after02:30
tzangeris there a cleaner way?02:30
frank23how can I diagnostic a wireless mouse issue? I'm having trouble moving and resizing windows. It's as if the click doesn't hold long enough. I just changed the batteries in the mouse and same problem persists02:30
se7enStultusApparatus: check with cat /etc/issue02:32
frank23I think a single click registers as a double click.....02:32
frank23hmmm   I was looking at /dev/input/mouse1  and the mouse is having problems with the left button.02:38
frank23it lasted less than a year and a half02:39
moshe_hi, where do i switch off auto-remembering kde session apps?02:50
DragnslcrSystem Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager02:51
Makuseruhi, im having a problem burning a VCD, i had an AVI, converted it to a MPEG so K3B could make a VCD, burnt the cd, and everything went fine, but when i try to play the CD i get no sound. i double checked the MPEG, and there IS sound on it, but it gets lost somehow when i burn it. anyone know whats causing this and how i can fix it?02:52
moshe_Dragnslcr: thakns02:52
moshe_thanks :)02:52
moshe_Dragnslcr: in Appearance > Fonts there's "Use anti-aliasing" = "System settings" - do you know where are the "system settings" ? :)02:54
Betusanybody can helpme to install drivers for my ati card?02:56
Dragnslcrmoshe_- not offhand, no02:56
NickPrestaBetus, use the Hardware Drivers Manager in KMenu > System02:57
Betusbut when i go to install tell me "Unable to determine XFree86 Version. Stopping now."02:57
Betusim use kubuntu hardy02:58
Betus!br02:58
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:58
Betusanybody can helpme with my ati card http://paste.ubuntu.com/14955/03:02
BonesolTeraDyne!ati03:03
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:03
Betusthanx03:03
asobiCrashhow do i edit fstab as root03:03
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Dragnslcrasobi- kdesu kate /etc/fstab03:04
asobihmm03:04
asobimy stab is empty?!03:04
asobifstab03:04
Makuseruhi, im having a problem burning a VCD, i had an AVI, converted it to a MPEG so K3B could make a VCD, burnt the cd, and everything went fine, but when i try to play the CD i get no sound. i double checked the MPEG, and there IS sound on it, but it gets lost somehow when i burn it. anyone know whats causing this and how i can fix it?03:05
asobiooops03:06
asobitypo03:06
asobiheh03:06
asobithanks03:06
Betususe sudo03:06
navetzwhere are my fonts located?03:07
humbol1I don't know why, but compiz gets started when I login into kde4! How can I turn that off?03:08
Agent_bob~/.kde4/Autostart/* ?03:10
humbol1Agent_bob: no03:11
Agent_bob~/.xsession ?03:13
Agent_bob~/.dmrc ?03:14
Agent_bobany of those can do that03:14
navetzon php.net it gives this as an example $font = imageloadfont("04b.gdf");      what file format is .gdf?03:15
NickPrestanavetz, GD Fonts03:17
Agent_bob'GeoDraft Document File03:17
humbol1Agent_bob: no, no03:17
Agent_bobhumbol1 grep -HiRe compiz ~03:18
BluesKajsomething like a PDFI think03:18
navetzNickPresta: ah, do you know where I can get thouse ?03:18
NickPrestanavetz,  http://www.devtrolls.com/gdf_fonts/fonts.html03:18
humbol1installed desktop-effects-kde now, maybe that helps. this one supplies a xsession.d file which exports a compiz env var when you want compiz. but it does nothing else. therefore I doubt things will change03:18
NickPrestanavetz, you can use any fonts. it doesn't have to be gdf03:18
navetzNickPresta: oh really? ok thats great. I guess I am just doing it wrong :)03:19
NickPrestanavetz, you can use the 'imagettftext' function to write text. It accepts a huge variety of font formats (I used True Type Font)03:20
navetzNickPresta: thats what I am trying to do, I have never used the GD library though so I am testing out lots of stuff03:21
NickPrestanavetz, there is 'imagettftext' for TTF, 'imagefttext' for FreeType 2, etc. The docs are comprehensive so check those first03:22
navetzNickPresta: alright thanks03:22
navetzNickPresta: i was using imageloadfont()03:22
Makuseruhi, im having a problem burning a VCD, i had an AVI, converted it to a MPEG so K3B could make a VCD, burnt the cd, and everything went fine, but when i try to play the CD i get no sound. i double checked the MPEG, and there IS sound on it, but it gets lost somehow when i burn it. anyone know whats causing this and how i can fix it?03:26
Agent_bob"GDF is also a generic European standard used for GIS data sets."03:27
Agent_bobMakuseru stupid question, but; have you tried "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=imagefile.iso" and see if you had sound from the .iso ?      (thinking that it could be the audio out from the drive)03:31
MakuseruAgent_bob: its never an ISO03:32
Agent_bobit is if you do what i said...   ;/03:32
Makuseruoh, ok. ill try it03:33
suicidie_hola03:34
BluesKajnice nick03:34
MakuseruAgent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14960/03:35
Agent_bobQ. "would you really have killed your self if i had said no?"    A. "that's what i usually do."03:35
moshe_which package do i need to install, so i can use "service" command from shell?03:36
Agent_bobMakuseru so you got a bad burn there ?03:37
Makuserudoes that mean i have a bad burn?03:37
Makuserui dont understand it03:37
moshe_nm found it03:37
Agent_bobmeans that dd could only read the first 922k of the cd   so yeah that's prolly a bad burn03:37
Makuseruah03:38
Makuseruits just weird that all the video works, but the audio isnt there03:38
Agent_bobyeah  it odd that the vidio works.    on a bad burn03:39
Makuseruill just burn again03:39
Makuseruand see if it works03:39
Agent_bobMakuseru check that you don't have k3b set to some "disk protection" setting03:40
Makuseruwhats taht?03:40
Makuseruthat*03:40
Agent_bobcopy protection    intentionally makes bad spots03:40
Makuseruwhere would i check that03:40
Agent_bobin k3b's settings03:40
Agent_bobit isn't by default set to do that.03:41
Agent_bobMakuseru you can also tell k3b to create an .iso file and test it.  then burn the .iso if all is well.03:42
will#nickserv03:42
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MakuseruAgent_bob: how do i make an iso out of it03:46
Agent_bobburn to iso   in the k3b options03:47
redeck#metalmaniacs03:47
MakuseruAgent_bob: i only see how to burn an iso, not make one03:49
Agent_bobMakuseru it's there some place.03:51
Agent_bobi just found a bug in "dd"  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7d72e97e03:51
Agent_bobcan anyone confirm that the same bug still exists ?03:52
Daisuke-Laptop--noerror?03:52
Agent_bobboth the man page and the --help list noerror as an option    but dd doesn't recognize it03:53
Agent_bobdd: invalid option -- -03:53
Agent_bobdefinitely not --03:53
Daisuke-Laptophrmm03:53
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Agent_bobMakuseru i think you have to click [burn] then in that window select to burn to file03:55
Agent_bobDaisuke-Laptop confirmed  ?03:55
MakuseruAh, alright03:56
Daisuke-Laptopone moment03:56
Daisuke-LaptopAgent_bob: confirmed03:58
Agent_bobeven the   info page   afferms that there "should" be a noerror switch03:58
Agent_bobDaisuke-Laptop care to report it on launchpad ?03:58
Agent_bob:)03:58
Agent_bobi'm not registered   nor can i atm.03:58
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redeck#metal04:00
Agent_bob/join #blah04:00
redeck#java04:00
Daisuke-Laptopnow to find out what package dd is in -_-04:00
Agent_bobcoreutils04:01
Agent_bobDaisuke-Laptop  coreutils04:01
NickPrestacoreutils, Daisuke-Laptop ?04:01
NickPrestaoh agent beat me to it04:01
NickPrestalol04:01
redeck#chat04:01
Agent_bob/join #blah  <<< redeck you have to /join  or  /part  those things...04:02
Agent_bob/exit     <<< example of an irc command.04:03
Agent_bob:)04:03
MakuseruAgent_bob: ok, i have the iso created, how do i test to see if its good?04:04
NickPrestaMakuseru, play it in vlc/mplayer/etc04:05
Agent_bobjust like you would a cd   open it as if it were a disk04:05
Makuseruyou can do that with an iso?04:05
Makuserunever knew that04:05
Agent_bobyep04:05
dawnhi04:05
dawnI am trying to remove some linux kernels04:05
NickPrestaMakuseru, sure. kaffeine dvd:///home/SOMEUSER/video.iso04:06
Makuserueh, i deffinattely think something went wrong04:06
Agent_bobdawn audo apt-get remove linux-image-<version_string_here>04:06
NickPrestaplays just like a DVD would04:06
Makuseruthe iso is only 900kb04:06
Daisuke-LaptopMakuseru: welcome to copy protection04:06
Daisuke-Laptopafaik, nothing's going to help04:07
dawnUbuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.20-15-386 and Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-server, which were installed when I upgrade to 7.10, I went in boot and sudo rm'd them bott they still show when I rebppt04:07
dawnhmm  Agent_bob ok04:07
dawnyou mean sudo and not audo, hehe04:07
Daisuke-Laptopdawn: did it ever occur to you to uninstall the packages through adept or synaptic?04:07
dawnDaisuke-Laptop: this thing for me hun04:07
dawnnew thing04:07
Agent_bobMakuseru   ;/04:08
Daisuke-Laptopdawn: then welcome aboard, you'll catch on pretty quick :D04:08
dawnaye aye04:08
Daisuke-LaptopAgent_bob: Despite the man page, info file, and --help flag for dd, it does not seem to actually have a noerror option.04:08
NickPrestadawn, try Adept or Synaptic. Find the current kernel install and remove any others that aren't in use, if you want.04:08
dawnserver and 386, I dont need those04:08
Agent_bobdawn one of the mentioned graphical package management frontends like adept or synaptic  might be more to your likeing04:08
dawndoing that now, but is use to the cmd line :P04:09
humbol1seems like kdeinit4 is starting compiz eventhough I have never told it to!04:09
humbol1where can I disable this04:09
Agent_bob!apt | dawn04:09
ubottudawn: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:09
NickPrestaDaisuke-Laptop, noerror is a conv option.04:09
dawnumm purge or remove?04:09
humbol1I just want to use KDEs own desktop effects!04:09
Agent_bobdawn remove should suffice04:09
dawnk04:10
NickPresta`dd conv=noerror` works for me04:10
MakuseruAgent_bob: Daisuke-Laptop so how can i turn this off?04:10
Agent_bobdawn the differance is,  remove remoces the package and it's content  but does not remove any special configuration files associeated with it.   purge does both04:10
dawnawww darn when I remove .14 server, it took vmware with it04:11
humbol1Agent_bob: I did not find anything in /etc nor in .kde4 that would indicate that compiz will be started. I also wiped clean .kde*04:11
humbol1Agent_bob: Any more suggestions what might cause compiz to start?04:11
Dragnslcrhumbol1- something setting the KDEWM environment variable, maybe04:13
humbol1no, env is clean also04:14
kleptowhats the difference between openbox & fluxbox?04:14
Agent_bobhumbolt i don't have kde4  but you could find /usr -iname kde4 -exec grep -HiRe compiz '{}' \;       for it.04:15
Agent_bobklepto a buck two ninty five.04:15
MakuseruAgent_bob: how can i turn this copy protection off?04:16
Agent_bobMakuseru i'm not sure i know that.    maybe someone else can help ay there.04:17
Makuseruis there a K3B irc room?04:17
Agent_bobi think so04:17
Makuserudo you know what it is? its not k3b04:17
Agent_bob#k3b04:17
Makuseruthere are litterly 0 people in that room04:18
Makuseruhaha04:18
Agent_bobback in a few.04:19
Ponzis kde4 going to come in the dvd package anytime soon?04:23
donald_how do i change screen resolution04:23
donald_?04:23
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kwgodi got a VGA cable for my xbox 360 and it changed my resolution and im not sure how to change it back04:24
kwgodhello?04:25
Agent_bobbrb04:43
Agent_bobok maybe i'm caught up for a few.04:45
Agent_bobCoffinSaver what kind of spam is that ?04:46
HeliosYeah it's a spam... :)04:46
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Agent_bob!ops | see about CoffinSaver (spam_bot) please.04:47
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HeliosHello Agent bob... :)04:48
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trappistAgent_bob: what's up04:48
trappistoh he left04:48
sean-_-hi04:48
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d597be28d04:49
Helios!usplash04:49
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork04:49
Agent_bobtrappist   ^  that.04:49
sean-_-Is there a program for kubuntu to monitor cpu temp and fan speed through a GUI?04:49
Agent_bobyeah he left.    just as you went +o04:49
sean-_-I just switched to kubuntu from ubuntu, I know its similar, but I'm still getting used to the kde programs04:50
trappistAgent_bob: yeah they often high-tail it when you flash your badge04:51
Agent_bob:)04:51
Helioslol... i switched from kubuntu to ubuntu...04:53
sean-_-why04:53
Heliosi was not so comfortable with it.... so i switched back to kubuntu... :s04:53
sean-_-ya04:53
sean-_-kubuntu looks better04:53
Agent_bobHelios sorry, didn't mean to "dis" on ya.    shalom.04:54
Heliosit's ok... :)04:54
kkathmananyone know if there is a trick to getting firefox 3 to work with the java jre??05:07
eyemonhow do i set a fixed channel on my wireless card??05:18
eyemonhow do i set a fixed channel on my wireless card??05:19
_2does qemu support directories as drives like dosemu does ?05:19
_2eyemon did you check the wiki on wifi ?05:20
eyemonnop05:20
_2!wifi05:20
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:20
romunovwhen i open files in openoffice 2.4, they are read-only. any tips?05:26
_2change the file permission ?05:26
_2change the file ownership ?05:27
_2remount the fs with different u/f/g-masks ?05:27
_2s/g/d/05:27
_2!permission05:30
ubottuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview05:30
Helioshow can i use the splash screen that i have downloaded from kde-look.org using usplash?05:31
baudthiefis it possible to set the processor affinity of a task in Kubuntu? I'm running XP as a guest OS using virtualbox, and theres 60% constant CPU even during idle - setting affinity apparently solves the problem05:31
romunovthat remounting thingy sounds the most workable05:32
romunovbecause i'm not about to spende 10 hours changing permissions for all my text files05:32
_2Helios convert it into a usplash image    i think they are xpm at 16 colour 640x480    not sure.05:32
Helioshow can i convert it to splash image??? :S05:32
_2romunov if it's on vfat or ntfs you couldn't change the permission/owner anyeay.05:33
_2anyway.05:33
romunovi just found that :)05:33
AshexAnyone know how to change the default icon for a mp3 player in storage devices?05:33
_2Helios are you sure you want it as a grub-splash  not a dm-splash05:34
_2?05:34
AshexKinda don't like the iPod05:34
Ashexin KDE4, it used the correct icon for my Sansa05:34
romunov_2: i'll need a bit more guidance on how to mount the hd in another mask05:34
romunov/dev/hda1 /data vfat auto,umask=0000 0 005:35
romunovthis is the command line that mounts the drive05:35
_2romunov sudo mount -o remount,umask=000,fmask=111,dmask=000 /dev/<device_node> /<mount_point> -t <type>      <<<< translate everything within <>05:36
Helioswat's grub-splash or dm-splash? :S05:36
_2romunov if it's umask=000 already  it should be writable.05:36
Heliosbtw can anyone tell me why the splash screen feature is not available in the system settings in the new Kubuntu?05:37
romunov_2: well, i beg the differ! :)05:38
_2Helios "usplash" sets the grub-splash image   the one seen where the boot menu is and the dm  (kdm by default) sets the dm-splash that you see as you login.05:38
_2romunov    do this for me.   mount | grep hda105:38
Heliosi mean the dm... do not wanna mess with grub... :)05:38
_2Helios ok.  then you aren't really asking about usplash,  and i probably can't answer.05:39
Heliosok... :S05:39
_2!theme05:39
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:39
_2that might ^05:39
Helios!changethemes05:40
ubottuTo change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubottu xfce-themes05:40
Heliosand how will i be able to change the grub-splash? :)05:40
romunov_2: done. what now?05:41
_2Helios that's where usplash comes in.05:41
_2romunov lets see the output of it05:41
_2!usplash | Helios05:41
ubottuHelios: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork05:41
romunov_2: no output at all05:41
_2romunov ok.  pastebin the output of    cat /proc/mounts05:42
Heliosi did this and it said i have only one program running usplash artwork05:42
romunovhttp://pastebin.com/d29339b1405:43
_2Helios the link  ^  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto05:43
_2romunov looking05:43
Heliosthanks05:44
romunov_2: huuum, the drive i'm trying to work with is sda1, not hda105:44
_2romunov are you files that you are concerned with in /data/ by any chance ?05:44
romunovwhat the hell?!05:44
romunovyes, they are in /data (that's where the drive is mounted)05:44
romunov_2: should i unmount hda1 and remount sda1?05:45
_2ok try this.   sudo mount -o remount,fmask=111,dmask=000 /dev/sda1 /data -t vfat05:45
leohi!, anyone uses filemaker with wine?05:45
Heliosabout the dm splash screen i got it... :D05:45
romunovinteresting - fdisk -l shows no hda1 devices05:46
_2romunov you can't umount hda1  it's not mounted.05:46
Heliosi need to install ksplash since it is not installed by default... :)05:46
romunov_2: you're right05:46
_2romunov    ^   remount command05:46
romunovi did it05:46
romunovand the files still opens in read-only mode05:47
_2romunov mount | grep sda1      <<< show me.05:47
romunov/dev/sda1 on /data type vfat (rw,fmask=111,dmask=000)05:47
_2you can write to them.05:48
_2echo boo > /data/testing.txt  ;cat /data/testing.txt05:48
romunovi don't know... the files still open in read-only mode05:48
romunovfile permissions are still "can read" for group and others05:48
_2echo boo > /data/testing.txt  ;cat /data/testing.txt05:49
romunovi could almost bet that this is Ooo 2.4. issue05:49
_2did it boo at you ?  ^05:49
romunovyes05:49
romunovbash: /data/testing.txt: Permission denied05:49
romunovcat: /data/testing.txt: No such file or directory05:49
_2then you can write to the disk/fs05:49
_2cant05:50
_2hold just a sec.05:50
romunovnope :/05:50
romunovhum, i can't umount the device, as it's busy05:51
_2yeah anything touching it.   file manager  editor  terminal...   will prevent umounting05:51
mairahola05:51
_2desktop icon maybe.05:52
romunovyes, there are some soft links to that drive on my desktop05:52
_2romunov try right click them and select eject05:52
_2eject is as handy as a pocket on a shirt.05:53
_2romunov sudo while umount /dev/sda1 ;do : ;done05:54
romunovwhen i try umount it via gui, it says the device is not mounted by HAL05:54
_2sudo mount -o fmask=111,dmask=000 /dev/sda1 /data05:54
romunov... whatever that is :>05:54
romunovthere, the device umounted05:55
_2HAL=hardware abstraction layer05:55
romunovi thought it was the super computer from odyssey 2000 :)05:56
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romunovyay, it's working05:56
romunovok, so how do i edit my fstab to keep these things permanent?05:56
_2romunov sudo nano /etc/fstab05:56
_2change the line hda1 to sda105:57
romunovwhat i meant was, what parameters do i need to change?05:57
_2change the line hda1 to sda105:57
romunovyes, that's what i did a little earlier: /dev/sda1 /data vfat auto,umask=0000 0 005:57
_2any other listing for sda1 should be removed.05:57
romunovyes, it's the only line mentioning sda1 in that file05:57
romunovi guess umask=000005:58
romunovdo i add fmask=1111?05:58
romunovlike so? /dev/sda1 /data vfat auto,fmask=1111,umask=0000 0 005:58
romunovor should there be only 3 ones?05:58
_2romunov this is just a thought on the subject, while umask will probably achieve the desired end i personally prefer fmask=111,dmask=000   it keeps things on that fs from apearing as all executable and so clicking on them doesn't accidently try to execute them either.05:59
_2three zeros are prefered05:59
_2the fourth is covered by other keywords  like nosuid and nogrpid06:00
_2noguid  sorry06:00
* _2 has full system == nosuid06:01
romunovok, i'll modify06:02
romunov/dev/sda1 /data vfat auto,fmask=111,umask=000 0 006:03
romunovi'll reboot just to make sure while i still remember what i had modified06:03
_2yeah   s/umask/dmask/06:03
romunovbrb06:04
_2u universal   f file  d directory06:04
* _2 takes the shotgun for a walk now.06:05
thedanyeshey guys06:08
thedanyesi'm running kubuntu 8.04 and my on-screen volume and alt+tab graphics don't come up anymore when i press their respective keys06:08
thedanyesdoes anyone know how to restore those?06:09
romunovwhen _2 returns, tell him thanks, the thing seems to work06:09
thedanyesany ideas?06:13
kuroryuuI'm trying to get emacs to start up in the background when I log in to my computer so when I run emacsclient it connects to the first instance that I have set to server mode, but I can't get it to start up06:31
kuroryuuI've tried putting it in .kde/Autostart/ and .xinitrc but it won't start up06:31
kuroryuuwhen I run the script myself it works just fine though06:31
kuroryuucan someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?06:32
birnissonhi, in kde 4 is there a way to mute the music coming from konqueror/firefox?06:32
thedanyesi got the alt+tab menu to appear now by setting the option in 'system settings', which is odd because i never changed it to make it stop working.  anyway, still trying to figure out how to get my onscreen volume control back06:34
thedanyestried restarting kmix06:35
thedanyeswent through all the kmix settings06:35
antareshola06:39
mr-tthedanyes : go to kmix>settings>configurekmix select tray icon :)06:42
thedanyesmr-t: the options i see in kmix->settings->configure kmix are: 'dock into panel', 'enabled system tray volume control', 'show tickmarks', 'show labels', 'restore volumes on login', 'middle click on system tray icon toggles muting', 'volume values', and 'slider orientation'.06:44
thedanyesaww.06:44
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Agent_bobqemu is an interesting diversion06:54
frank_does any have some ideas for KDE-system settings crash ?06:55
doktoreashello everybody06:55
doktoreasis there a simple image editor for kde without installing the gimp?06:55
frank_ does anyone have some ideas for KDE-systemsettings crash ?06:57
thedanyesdoktoreas: you could try PRICE06:58
thedanyesdoktoreas: or gwenview depending on what you need06:58
doktoreasthedanyes: basci image resizing and chaing contrast..06:59
doktoreasthose things06:59
Agent_bobdoktoreas kolour paint   ?07:00
thedanyesthedanyes: gwenview is what you need07:00
thedanyeserr...07:00
thedanyesdoktoreas: gwenview107:00
thedanyesdoktoreas: gwenview!07:00
thedanyesdoktoreas: i can't type tonight for some reason.07:00
* Agent_bob like kolour paint 07:00
doktoreas:)07:00
doktoreasThx.. I am trying it right now..is it possible to select a certain part of the image and save as new image?07:01
Agent_bobin kp it is.07:01
Agent_bobxpaint - simple paint program for X07:02
Agent_bobkolourpaint - a simple paint program for KDE07:02
Agent_bobtkpaint - Versatile bitmap/pixmap editing tool07:02
Agent_bobkrita - a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite07:02
thedanyesdoktoreas: i don't think gwenview has crop functionality07:02
Agent_bobkp does07:03
thedanyesdoktoreas: but it does resize and change contrast07:03
Agent_bob:)07:03
thedanyesagent_bob: you use kolourpaint?07:03
Agent_bobi do07:03
thedanyesagent_bob: and you like it?07:03
Agent_bobi do07:03
thedanyesagent_bob: hmmm i may have to give it a try07:03
Agent_bobyou may07:03
thedanyesagent_bob: do you work on it?07:04
Agent_bobdepends on your definition of "work"07:04
Agent_bobno by most standards07:04
thedanyesagent_bob: i mean are you involved with the project?07:05
Agent_bobno07:05
thedanyeshmmm. looks like microsoft paint07:05
Agent_bobit does07:05
thedanyesi think i'll stick with my gwenview / GIMP combo for now :)07:05
Agent_bobi didn't say it would replace gimp.   i said (to "simple replacement for gimp")  that kp would do all that was mentioned.07:06
thedanyesyeah its probably great for his application07:07
Daisuke_Idothedanyes: you can also take a look at krita07:08
Agent_bobi use it, because i do some photo scanning and digitizing.   it works well for croping/rotating/enhancing images07:08
Agent_boband is fairly light weight07:08
Daisuke_Idothink of krita as the paint shop pro to the gimp's photoshop07:09
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: great. i will check it out :)07:09
Agent_bobone can select the portion to work on and copy + paste in a new window    with hotkeys   makes life simple for me.07:10
thedanyesagent_bob: sounds good.  have you used the GIMP before?07:10
Agent_bobonly played with it.  haven't really put it to serious use07:10
Agent_bobi don't like the interface to gimp      but that's presonal preferance and not a reflection on what the app can and cant do07:11
thedanyesagent_bob: ah ok.  i like it overall, but yeah the interface could be a little nicer.07:11
* Agent_bob is somewhat of a minimalest07:12
thedanyesyeah i try to use a tool that is appropriate for what i'm doing07:12
* Agent_bob runs kde on a p1 100mhz 64m ram 610m hdd box sometimes...07:13
DeepThoughtI've edited devices.map from GRUB, do I need to update grub to get the3 changes in the boot trecord ?07:13
thedanyesah.  seems like a waste of electricity  :)07:13
Agent_bobthedanyes :)))07:13
Agent_bobDeepThought shouldn't    "update-grub" doesn't affect the MBR anyway07:14
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: looks like the package for krita is broken07:14
Daisuke_Idothat's odd07:14
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: i just installed it with adept and apparently the only package listed is the 'krita-data' package\07:14
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: so of course it didn't work07:15
DeepThoughtAgent_bob: so the changes I made should now affect boot without having to perform further actions right now  ok;07:15
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: trying to apt-get it now07:15
DeepThought?07:15
Daisuke_Ido!info krita07:15
ubottukrita (source: koffice): a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-4ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 2972 kB, installed size 9216 kB07:15
thedanyesubottu: i'm running 8.0407:15
ubottuthedanyes: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:15
Daisuke_Idohardy is 8.0407:15
Agent_bobDeepThought should,   take note that i'm not a grub user.   i have played with it some but can't use it for my main system07:15
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: oh, i was confused because it said 'ubuntu7'07:16
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: sure enough, works now that i ran the apt-get to install it07:16
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: can anyone else confirm that krita shows up in adept installer as the 'krita-data' package, and not the 'krita' package?07:16
thedanyescan anyone else confirm that krita shows up in adept installer as the 'krita-data' package, and not the 'krita' package?07:17
thedanyesKrita07:17
Daisuke_Idoadept installer?  i can't recommend adept for any reason, ever.07:17
thedanyesRank:07:17
thedanyesPackage: krita-data07:17
thedanyesdata files for Krita painting program07:17
thedanyesThis package contains architecture-independent data files for Krita, the painting program shipped with the KDE Office Suite.07:17
thedanyesSee the krita package for further information.07:17
thedanyesThis package is part of the KDE Office Suite.07:17
Daisuke_Idosynaptic would be a better option07:17
thedanyesdaisuke_ido: ah ok. i just use it because its the default with kubuntu07:17
romunovafter the upgrade, printer won't print anymore :/07:18
thedanyeskrita looks nice though actually07:18
thedanyesi used to like paint shop pro07:18
thedanyesuntil whoever it was bought them... corel?07:18
Agent_bobyeah krita is.  but heavy07:18
Agent_bobxpaint - simple paint program for X  <<< very light07:19
thedanyeswell thanks guys. i'm going to bed, talk to you later :)07:20
Agent_bobDeepThought and ?07:21
DeepThoughtAgent_bob: nope, stil a mess07:21
Agent_bobDeepThought what exactly is the issue ?07:22
DeepThoughtthe problem is hd's are numbered different at boot then they are when the system's up; so all the startup-configs end up wrong07:22
Agent_bobyep.  that's common07:22
DeepThoughtI want it to be consistent from a-z07:22
DeepThoughtwas told devices.map is the key07:22
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DeepThoughtso I gave the numbers to discs as it is at boot; but at boot all is still the same now, that's why I figured I should update the menu; update grub does that, or no ?07:24
Agent_bobproblem is that bios numbers drives then linux readdresses them as it actually sees them.     you can use the "map" directive in the menu.lst file to reorder them to the way linux sees them...     not that it's easy or reccomended.07:24
Agent_bobupdate-grub only updates the menu.lst07:24
DeepThoughtso whatś the difference between the devices.map and the map in menu.list ?07:25
Agent_bobgrub-install will update the mbr07:25
DeepThoughtso shouldn't I do both after editing configs ?07:25
Agent_bobin menu.lst you can remap the bios addressing  that doesn't happen in the devices.map file07:25
Agent_bobDeepThought ummm    not usually.   any changes to the menu.lst is read dirrectly at boot time.  it's not in the mbr and i think that device.map is the same07:26
DeepThoughtAh, ok; so my solution is in there fro sure; and devices.map will take the consistency into the sys when it's running, right ?07:26
Agent_bobDeepThought right07:27
DeepThoughtgood; well at least I know I'm on track07:27
Agent_boblet me get you an example of remapping a drive.07:27
romunovwhere can i see pending print jobs?07:28
DeepThoughtso what gets read from boot record apart from where the boot partition is ?   or only that ?07:28
DeepThoughtgreat07:28
AyabaraHow do I install KDE4.1Beta on Hardy?07:28
flaccidAyabara: #kubuntu-kde407:30
Agent_bobgrub> help map07:31
Agent_bobmap: map TO_DRIVE FROM_DRIVE07:31
Ayabaraflaccid, ah. so it's automatically updated. I though I stayed on 4.0 if I didn't add some custom stuff to my sources.list07:31
Ayabarathanks07:31
Agent_bobdidn't find a good example.  but that's the basic syntax07:31
DeepThoughtAgent_bob: oh, so I do it in console, not in th menu.list ?07:32
Agent_bobDeepThought no that can be in the menu.lst too07:32
sigmai think its amazing how kde3 apps work so well in kde4. imagine trying to run a win98 app in xp:)07:32
DeepThoughtAgent_bob: so those commands there change it in the menu.list ?07:32
Agent_bobDeepThought anything you do in the grub prompt you can do in the menu.lst to make it permanant07:32
Agent_bobyes07:32
DeepThoughtoh, with grub prompt you mean the one at boot ?   I thought you meant at console when editing while sys is up (on the desktop I mean)07:33
Agent_bobi.e.   map (hd1) (hd0)   will reverse the order of the first two hdds07:33
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AyabaraI upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy using apt, so now I have both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4. How can I remove all KDE 3.5 stuff?07:33
DeepThoughtat bott as well as in meulist07:34
DeepThought?07:34
Agent_bobyes07:34
DeepThoughtgoooodd07:34
Agent_bobDeepThought play around in the grub prompt a little.  it's a good place to learn this stuff07:34
VIPHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH07:34
Agent_bobin a terminal just type    grub07:34
DeepThoughtAgent_bob: well, that should get me where I want, will fiddle with that07:35
sigmaAyabara: bad idea, kde4 doesnt have a complete app set, if you totally remove kde3 you'll have a pretty limited function desktop07:35
Agent_bobDeepThought glwi07:35
DeepThoughtAgent_bob: glwi ?07:35
Ayabarasigma, good point. I rest my case07:35
Agent_bobgood luck with it07:35
Agent_bobsame as gl/i07:36
Agent_boberr gl/w07:36
sigmaAyabara: wait for 4.1, kde4 versions of amarok, kontact and k3b are more likely to appear by then07:36
Ayabarasigma, I'm trying to get 4.1 Beta now07:37
DeepThoughtAgent_bob: Ah, thaanx ! yer right bout learning is good; I've lotsa xperience with comps ever since the zx80; but linux didn 't really get to stick in my rig till I ran into ubuntu; makes for a clean & easy start; but the whole point of wanting linux for years already is getting more control over my rig; and it's really under the hood where it all happens; love to learn about that and get the hang of it, without having to depend on it to07:38
DeepThoughtkeep my sys running; Ubuntu rocks !07:38
sigmaAyabara: where are you getting it from? ive tried to look for packages but never found any for kubuntu07:38
DeepThoughtsorry for the flood huyz &dollz...07:38
DeepThoughtsigning off, bye07:38
Agent_bobDeepThought :)07:39
sigmaAyabara: where are you getting the 4.1 beta from? ive tried to look for packages but never found any for kubuntu07:39
Ayabarasigma, haven't found it actually. flaccid said I only had to install #kubuntu-kde4, but maybe he misunderstood07:39
Ayabaragah07:40
Ayabarasorry07:40
sigmaAyabara: you could try this - http://dot.kde.org/1211789022/ - its a virtual system of the latest 4.1 build07:40
Agent_bob!info kde-core407:40
ubottuPackage kde-core4 does not exist in hardy07:40
Ayabaraflaccid, I read you post entirely wrong :-)07:40
Agent_bob!info kde4-base07:41
ubottuPackage kde4-base does not exist in hardy07:41
Agent_bob!info kde-base407:41
ubottuPackage kde-base4 does not exist in hardy07:41
Agent_boboh well....07:41
sigmaAgent_bob: kde4 packages are in the backports07:41
Agent_bob<romunov> where can i see pending print jobs? <<< did he get an answer yet ?07:42
Agent_bobromunov ?07:43
sigmabut i heard the plasma on 4.1 alpha is really unstable - but i guess they fixed that by now07:43
sigmahad something to do with the switch to qt4.407:43
flaccidhelp for kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde407:44
flaccidand yeah no 4.1 packages..07:44
Agent_bobromunov kcontrol pariferials printers    kprinter  too maybe.    or cli  ls /var/spool/cups/07:46
tomas_hey all whats doing07:47
Agent_bobwhat's doing what ?07:47
tomas_its just some thing people say when they come in to a new room07:47
Agent_bobwho's doing who ?      ah never mind i don't care to hear the answer to that one.07:48
tomas_now question i am running ubuntu can you change from gnome to KDE07:48
Agent_bobyep.07:48
tomas_how so07:48
Agent_bobinstall kde07:48
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tomas1986how im new to ubuntu07:48
Agent_boblogout and select change session > kde   login07:48
tomas1986hmm07:49
Agent_bobin the package manager07:49
Agent_bobinstall kde07:49
tomas1986wher do i find the package manager07:49
Agent_bobor for crying out loud.      sudo apt-get install kde    in any terminal.07:49
tomas1986im sorry i dont know Linux07:50
tomas1986and you can also swap back to gnome at any time07:51
Agent_bobif you decide you want the kubuntu defaults   you can install kubuntu-desktop   it will change some of the defaults07:51
tomas1986ok07:51
Agent_boband to your Q yes.   same process.   logout, select session gnome  and login07:51
tomas1986well it is installing now07:51
tomas1986thanks07:51
Agent_bobwelcome.07:52
tomas1986one other question what is playonlinux07:52
romunovAgent_bob: yes, i've figured that one out07:52
romunovAgent_bob: but my problem still persists - i can't get my printer to work (after the upgrade to 8.04)07:52
* Agent_bob <shrugs> idk </shrugs>07:52
Agent_bobromunov did you have to install a propritary driver for the printer ?07:53
romunovno, it was "out of the box" in 7.1007:53
tomas1986and can you install nero on linux07:53
romunovi'm using epson stylus c42ux07:54
Agent_bobromunov open kcontrol select pariferials printers    super user button at the bottom   remove the printer and install new printer   see if that fixes.  the printer wizard is pretty good07:55
Agent_bobdon't forget to "apply" all changes.07:55
romunovAgent_bob: ok, asap i get home. have to run some errands07:55
Agent_bobtomas1986 i think there is a nero for linux     but give k3b a try before you jump to windowish things.07:56
Agent_bob!find nero07:56
ubottuFile nero found in dvb-utils, emacspeak, fillets-ng-data-cs, fortunes-es-off, kde-l10n-es (and 15 others)07:56
tomas1986ok where do i get k3b from07:56
Agent_bobit will come with kde.07:57
Agent_bobit's in the menu.07:57
tomas1986ahh atm im using gnome07:57
Agent_bobbtw in gnome. the package manager frontend is called "synaptic"07:59
Agent_bobin kde it's adept07:59
Agent_bob!apt07:59
tomas1986ahh ok07:59
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:59
tomas1986sorry that i dont know all this stuff07:59
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Agent_bobdon't be.  we all had/have to learn     worst mistake people make is, because they can find their way around windows (r) they think they should know all about linux.   it's easier to start with no knowledge than a wrong knowledge.08:00
TeslaTonyHaving no fear of looking like a complete idiot at times is helpful with linux08:02
Agent_bobyep08:02
TeslaTonyHowever, avoid the urge to dress like a penguin08:02
Agent_bobor maybe at all times.   :)08:02
* Agent_bob hides his fether suit.08:02
Agent_bobhow did you know >?08:02
xt828_!konsole08:03
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:03
TeslaTonyFriends don't let friends dress like flightless birds08:04
Agent_boblol08:04
xt828_!Adept08:05
ubottuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto08:05
xt828_!apt08:06
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)08:06
xt828_!dpkg08:06
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.08:06
Agent_bobhmmm i think i need to add pcspkr to my qemu08:08
Agent_bobwintendo game runs but no sound08:08
Agent_bobi would like higher graphis too  it's only 640x480x4 atm  ;/08:11
flaccidAgent_bob: you running a nintenndo emulator?08:13
Agent_bobsorry.   not nin  win  tindo08:15
Agent_bobflaccid ^08:15
flaccidwhats that?08:17
Agent_bobwintendo :)     using windows to play games...    you know, what it was made for.08:17
TeslaTonyMeh. If I could run any decent games on Linux I'd ditch windows entirely08:19
TeslaTonyWell...Autocad 2008 as well08:19
Agent_bobTeslaTony i did ditch M$  but thought that qemu and a win95 image for a few games...08:19
khaleel5000hello , i have a via p4m800 /8237 mobo,i use built in graphy, which drivers should i use with kubuntu 8.04 (which will be the best ones)08:19
Agent_bobcan anyone help me get higher rez out of qemu ?08:20
simihi, i have a kubuntu 8.04 and katapult is not working properly, it is running but when i press Alt+Space nothing happenes08:24
TimSI have 9.2gig of stuff in my recycle bin, but there is no option to empty it, its greyed out every time08:26
TimSHow can I empty it08:27
Agent_bobsudo rm -r ~/.local08:28
TeslaTonykhaleel5000: I can't find much info on that board, although it appears to work well with linux. I'd say use the default drivers, and if you start having trouble with graphics swap over to the proprietary ones (if they're available)08:28
simiTimS: try to delete them from trash, and use Shift+Delete when you want to remove fies permanently08:30
TimSAh, thanks.08:30
Agent_bobor    sudo rm -r ~/.local08:30
TimSAh, didn't see that :P08:31
TimSsimi: Worked great =]08:31
simiAgent_bob:  I will not use sudo to delete files, maybe you make a mistake and delete something wrong08:32
simiand is not so fun for newbies08:32
TimSAnd theres more than just trash in .local is there not?08:32
Agent_bobsimi if you move something to trash and can't empty it then you probably don't own it and need su08:32
Agent_bobi made no mistake.08:33
Agent_bobTimS can be.08:33
Agent_bobaside from user added files.   one can safely rm their entire home and not loose anything.08:34
simiAgent_bob: yes you are right , i just want to suggest a nice and safe alternative, maybe start nautilus with sudo or mc(for advanced user your solution is the quickest)08:34
Agent_bob nautilus with sudo  <<< not safe.08:35
simiAgent_bob: you do not made any mistake08:35
Agent_bobsimi no one said that.08:35
TimSThey could yes, but I have a lot of data that I would much prefer to keep,08:35
TimSMy data is far more important than my system.08:35
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Agent_bobTimS right that's why i mentioned "aside from..."08:36
TimSAnd removing .kde would mess things up a little08:36
Agent_bobno it would reset them to default.08:37
TimSI like my settings :P08:37
khaleel5000TeslaTony: ok.thanks08:37
Agent_bobthat in some peoples openion would be messing things up i guess.08:37
tekovroi just installed kde4 through adept manager.. everything seems to work good but for some reason i cant change the appearance of windows...08:37
Agent_bobdefault == yuch08:37
Agent_bob:)08:37
simimaybe is safer to use mc then the terminal, you see exactly what you want to change and you will be asked for confirmation08:37
TeslaTonyIs there any way to set up a guest account that automatically reverts to a preset every time it gets logged out?08:37
TeslaTonyi.e. whoever uses it can't change it, no matter how hard they try (short of having admin access)08:38
Agent_bobsimi depending on the settings of mc   it can delete without asking as well08:38
simiAgent_bob: i supose that any file manager can be set to do that08:39
Agent_bobTeslaTony um one could mount a ramfs on the home and copy the default files into that as part of the login process08:40
Agent_bobsimi all that i know of can.08:40
tekovroso if the window decoarations wont change in the appearance system settings is there a way to fix that?08:40
simiAgent_bob: any ideea why katapult is not appearing when i press alt+space? it is running08:40
Agent_bobsimi umm  wrong keymap in xorg ?08:41
Agent_bobsimi or a bug maybe  ?     idk   i'd have to have more info really to even guess08:41
simiAgent_bob: i looked at keyboard shortcuts and ALt+space is not there for any actions but i do not know how to  make katapult to appear at alt+space or change this key shorcut08:42
Agent_bobsimi make a new shortcut and set to alt+space with command katapult ?08:43
Agent_bobfirst test that command katapult does bring it into view08:43
simii have kubuntu 8.04 , is a fresh install a few days  only, i was using ubuntu for 2 years08:43
Agent_bobsimi ah kde4   you need jucato on that08:44
Agent_bobJucato ?08:44
Agent_bobhaven't seen him yet today...   maybe not here yet...08:44
simiAgent_bob: i played with kde4 but now i use standard kubuntu, i do not liked kde408:44
Agent_boboh kde3 ?08:45
simithx anyway, i will research on google, maybe i will find more details on this08:45
Agent_bobit still might be an issue with the kde4 you tested.  maybe force reinstall kde-base08:46
simiAgent_bob: yes kde 3.508:46
simiAgent_bob: no i fresh installed08:46
simii keep my system clean08:46
Agent_boboh.08:46
Agent_bob<blinks>     i haven't installed in two years08:47
Agent_bobsimi check your xorg.conf like i first mentioned   see if its the correct keymap08:48
simiAgent_bob: i  prefer installing then upgrading(i keep my home folder with the configurations) when upgrading something can work wrong and you downloaded 700 MB for nothing08:48
* Agent_bob doesn't upgrade.08:49
Agent_bobthat begs the question "are you still using dapper"   short answer is "yes"08:49
simiAgent_bob: in 8.04  xorg.conf is just a little file, had changed from 7.1008:51
simino graphics configuration anumore in xorg.conf08:51
simionly if you want to override the setting08:52
simiand no keyboard shortcuts in xorg.conf , i do not remember to e there08:53
simiand i am using ubuntu from 6.1008:53
Agent_bobi never mentioned a keyboard shortcut in xorg.conf  only the keymap.   i.e. "pc 101"   or "pc 105" ...08:57
Agent_bobif you use the wrong keymap then some keys don't function as intended.  and that "might" be your issue08:58
xt828_anyone here know anything about konsole, apt-get and networking?09:03
Agent_bobfirst two.  not the last really09:04
xt828_when i run apt-get through konsole it tries to connect to a nonexistent IP09:05
Agent_bobthat's an error in your /etc/apt/sources.list file09:06
xt828_my internet comes through a router, so i huess i need to change that IP to the one i get internet through09:06
Agent_bobno you need ot set the deafult gateway to the ip of your router most likely09:06
xt828_how would I do that?09:07
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Agent_bobsudo route add default gw <routers_ip>09:07
xt828i get the response : SIOCADDRT: File exists09:08
Agent_bobbut i'm not much on networking.  so if that don't misticly fix it.  don't cry foul.09:08
Agent_bobcheck the route    to see how it's set now.09:08
Agent_bobcommand is   route09:09
xt828okay, done - do you want me to pastebin the output?09:10
Agent_bobjust the  UG line   here09:10
xt828default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth009:11
Agent_boband is your router 192.168.1.1 ?09:11
xt828that's the IP i go to, to login to it09:12
Agent_bobok that should work then.09:12
xstWhen will firefox 3 rc1 be available in hardy?09:12
Agent_bobcan you "ping -c1 google.com09:12
xt828yep09:12
Agent_bobnow   sudo apt-get update09:13
Agent_bobif it errors out, pastebin the output09:13
xt828the reason that it's weird is that all the other parts of my internet work fine, it's just apt and the associated prgrams that don't09:13
Agent_bob              ^\09:13
xt828http://paste.ubuntu.com/15001/09:14
Agent_boblooking09:14
eyemonhow do i format a removable disk using kubuntu09:15
Agent_bobgrep 127.0.0.1 /etc/host*09:15
Agent_bobeyemon to what format and what disk drive ?09:15
cianocerco lista film09:15
Agent_bobvfat ?09:16
Agent_boband probably sda ?09:16
eyemonpendrive09:16
xt828Agent_bob: I get : /etc/hosts:127.0.0.1    localhost09:16
Agent_bobciano something like this then    sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda   but check that sda is not your hdd first.09:17
Agent_bobeyemon that  ^09:17
Agent_bobsorry09:17
cianoI'm itali09:17
Agent_bobxt828 sudo nano /etc/hosts   and add  the output of   "hostname"  to that line   save and exit09:18
Agent_bob!it | ciano09:18
ubottuciano: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:18
cianograzie09:19
eyemonwill it format the hard drivw??09:19
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tomas1986hey all what can i install on Ubuntu that will do database09:19
Agent_bobeyemon if it is the hd rather than the pindrive it will.09:20
xt828Agent_bob: sorry, I add what to the file?09:20
eyemono man09:20
Agent_bobeyemon you can use the    fdisk -l   command to find out.    or  cat /proc/partitions09:20
Agent_bobxt828 what ever   "hostname" returns.09:21
Agent_bobyour local hostname09:21
Agent_bobxt828 on the same line you pasted in here.09:21
Agent_bobxt828 and if the following line has 128.0.1.1  then comment it out.09:22
Agent_bobexample xt828; 128.0.0.1 localhost googenhogen09:23
xt828Agent_bob: in /etc/hosts I have 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 mk2lin09:24
xt828do I comment out the first?09:24
Agent_boband let me guess    mk2lin is your hostname ?09:25
xt828yeah09:25
Agent_bobno the second.   and move  mk2lin to the end of the first09:25
Agent_bobor add it there09:25
Agent_bobonly line that file needs is   " 127.0.0.1 localhost mk2lin "09:26
xt828Agent_bob:right, done09:26
Agent_bobsudo /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start09:27
Agent_bobsudo apt-get update09:28
xt828same error as before09:28
Agent_bobok give me a minute.09:28
Agent_boblike i said this is not my strong suit09:28
xt828Agent_bob shouldn't I have changed the 127.0.0.1 to what my router IP is?09:29
eddieftwamarok is complaining about 'xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers'09:29
Agent_bobno09:29
eddieftwsuggestions?09:29
Agent_bobxt828 pastebin the output of   cat /etc/apt/sources.list   for me09:29
Agent_bobeddieftw the wiki maybe ?09:30
Agent_bob!sound | eddieftw09:30
ubottueddieftw: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:30
inteliwaspi have a quick question, what program controls the touch pad actions? i need to rezone the scrool area09:31
xt828Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15006/09:32
Agent_bobxt828 one more.   iptables -L09:34
Agent_boberr two more i should have said.   also  cat /etc/resolv.conf09:35
xt828Agent_bob: iptables is http://paste.ubuntu.com/15007/09:36
hak5fanI think i found a bug in okular where can i check if it's already been reported/report it?09:37
xt828resolv,conf is only one line: nameserver 192.168.1.109:37
tomas1986is there a way to install safri on linux09:37
Agent_bobxt828 hmmm name resalution may be the problem...09:38
hak5fantomas1986: yes using the windows version through wine... search for safari + wine on google..09:38
flaccidtomas1986: lots on google09:38
tomas1986ok09:38
Pennycookhak5fan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs09:38
Agent_bobflaccid can you have a look at xt828's failing apt-get and see if anything jumps out at you ?09:39
tomas1986got it09:39
Agent_bobhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15001/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15007/09:39
tomas1986next question is there an antivirus for ubuntu09:39
Agent_bob!virus | tomas198609:40
ubottutomas1986: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2109:40
eddieftwamarok is complaining about 'xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers'. it just started complaining even though i was listening to songs/playing music earlier. suggestions?09:40
flaccideddieftw: is that with mp3 streams?09:41
eddieftwmp3 and .avi files09:41
eddieftwnot sure what the avi audio encoding is09:41
flaccidsorry busy09:41
Agent_bobxt828 you need someone that knows a little more about networking through a router than i do.09:42
xt828Agent_bob thanks for your help anyway mate09:42
khaleel5000hello , i did a kubuntu 8.04 install via desktop cd, it  was installed but when I booted to system i saw the kubuntu's splash screen , saw the booting blue line complete but then (i think it was loading kdm/kde, i saw a blnak screen i have  a via p4m800 mobo ,using builtin graphy , xorg is here : http://rafb.net/p/c7DXpT72.html09:43
khaleel5000currently i am in debian (dual booting)09:43
Agent_bobxt828 welcome.     i can narrow the problem down to an network issue but can't zero in on what exactly is causing it.09:43
flaccideddieftw: thats usually a shoutcast bug. you just keep clicking till it works09:44
llutzxt828: what does "echo $http_proxy" give out?09:45
xt828llutz: it gives http://127.0.0.1:8118/09:45
llutzxt828: but you don't run a proxy locally?09:46
xt828llutz: i'm not totally sure what a proxy is - i connect to the internet through a router?09:47
llutzxt828:  try "fgrep -i http_proxy /etc/"09:48
llutzxt828:  try "fgrep -i http_proxy /etc/*"   sry09:49
hak5fanI found a problem/bug with okular. I can't print all pdf files. I sucsessfully printed a small test page, but when I tried to print a 2.5 mb pdf it didn't work. Any help?09:50
xt828llutz: pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/15014/09:50
llutzxt828: strange,  it must be set somewhere....09:51
llutzxt828: do you have tor/privoxy installed, anonymizer software?09:52
xt828llutz: i don't think so, how could i check?09:53
eddieftwflaccid: i clikced like 50 times and it didn't work. :(09:54
llutzapt-cache policy tor |grep -i insta09:54
xt828llutz: it says it isn't installed09:55
llutzxt828: "grep proxy ~/.bashrc"09:55
llutzxt828: "grep proxy ~/.profile"09:55
tomas1986where can i get games made for linuz09:56
llutzxt828: until this "http_proxy" isn't unset,  all your http-request will fail09:56
xt828llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15016/ for the first, no output for the second09:56
Agent_bob!games09:57
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:57
llutzxt828: aaaah, "nano ~/.bashrc"   and add "#" in front of those 3 lines. log out, relogin after09:57
llutzxt828: after relogin, "echo http_proxy" must be empty09:58
xt828llutz: okay, doing that now09:59
flaccideddieftw: report a bug10:00
flaccidor make sure the codecs are installed10:00
tomas1986is there a program that can teach the user japanese on linucx10:05
amerigohello everibody10:05
bittinHello10:05
llutztomas1986: it's spelled: linux, very simple10:06
bittinthere is one in KDE10:06
bittinbut now i don't remember the name off it10:06
thegusfind a japanese girl, much more fun10:07
bittinthegus: true :D10:07
llutzxt828: ok now?10:07
amerigohow can I check smb.conf if it works correctly... my group is a mix of win98, win xp, xubuntu, kubuntu10:07
amerigo??10:07
xt828llutz: the http_proxy is blank now, yeah10:08
llutzxt828: network works too?10:08
xt828llutz: yep, was just checking it then10:08
user__hi i am a very new user. Running ubuntu from vmware. can u tell me how to change my ip ?10:08
amerigoI've set smb.conf file with workgroup= nameofgroup10:09
xt828llutz: thank you very much for your help10:09
llutzxt828: welcome10:09
amerigoand it was running perfectly10:09
amerigothen kubuntu samba get an adjourning10:10
amerigoand i lost my setting...10:10
eddieftwit works now flaccid10:10
eddieftwhard reboot10:10
Agent_bobxt828 so it was a proxy setting ?10:10
amerigonow i have changed smb.conf file but i cannot see the rest of lan (from kubuntu)10:11
xt828Agent_bob: yeah, the proxy was set in ~/.bashrc10:11
Agent_bobxt828 and i your .bashrc     i'll make a note   so if i run into this again.10:11
amerigomessage error say: smb://nameofgroup/ doesn't exist10:12
llutzxt828 Agent_bob this setting usually is needed if people run privoxy10:12
amerigosome tips?10:12
amerigo! samba10:14
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.10:14
Agent_bobllutz yeah.  shouldn't running    /bin/sh then the apt-get command prove if it is a proxy setting in the .bashrc file ?10:14
amerigo! SWAT10:14
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.10:14
amerigo! swat10:14
llutzAgent_bob: it's just an env-var, apps don't care where/why it's set10:15
Agent_bobllutz but it shouldn't be set in /bin/sh like it is in /bin/bash     no ?10:16
llutzAgent_bob: dash uses bashrc too10:16
Helios!usplash10:16
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork10:16
Agent_bobllutz it does ?10:16
llutzAgent_bob: i think so....10:16
Agent_bobsense when ?10:16
Agent_boboh wait.  you may have a . ~/.bashrc line in your /etc/profile or ~/.profile    that would cause it.10:17
TimSSince I installed nvidia dirvers, my USplash for shutting down is broken :(10:18
Agent_bobubuntu is bad about setting up defaults that don't make sense to me...10:18
Heliossometimes kdeinit fail to start... is there any solution for that?10:18
llutzAgent_bob: my login-shell still is /bin/bash...10:18
Agent_bobyes.   but sh doesn't inherit it's settings.      set > a ;sh     then    set > b ;diff a b10:20
Ayabarawhere do I turn off the wrapping when I change virtual desktops?10:20
Ayabaraforget it10:21
llutzAgent_bob: true, but it's like you said, they source bashrc in .profile10:21
* Ayabara learns to see10:21
Agent_bobllutz ah  that explains it.    that's buntu'ism10:22
llutzyeah, time to look for something else.... slack10:22
tomas1986some one teach me something new about ubuntu10:22
Agent_bobdebian ?10:23
tomas1986ye10:23
Agent_bobslakware ?10:23
Agent_bobtomas1986 ok.   sudo apt-get install gentoo10:23
tomas1986no ubuntu10:23
tomas1986whast gentoo10:23
llutzAgent_bob not really, stable is "too old" and i dislike sid. so hopefully slackware will fit my needs/wishes10:23
Agent_bobsomething you don't already know about :)10:24
tomas1986ok what is it10:24
Agent_bob!info gentoo | tomas198610:24
ubottutomas1986: gentoo (source: gentoo): a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1build1 (hardy), package size 767 kB, installed size 2436 kB10:24
Agent_bobdoes ftp nicely10:24
tomas1986ok there is new things10:24
Agent_bobtomas1986 you know about gpm ?10:25
tomas1986no10:25
Agent_bob!info gpm | tomas198610:25
ubottutomas1986: gpm (source: gpm): General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-25ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 373 kB, installed size 708 kB10:25
Agent_bobmakes the mouse work without xorg.   i.e. in a console.10:25
tomas1986this is the first time i have used ubuntu and i am liking it even tho it is in windows Virtual bok and i just foun konversation10:26
Agent_bobtomas1986 you know about svgalibs ?     lets you use things like vlc to watch movies without xorg    i.e. in a console10:26
Agent_bob!info svgalibs | tomas198610:27
ubottutomas1986: Package svgalibs does not exist in hardy10:27
Agent_bob!info svgalib | tomas198610:27
ubottutomas1986: Package svgalib does not exist in hardy10:27
Agent_boberr maybe name changed...10:27
tomas1986im using hardy10:27
Agent_bob!info svgalib-bin | tomas198610:30
ubottutomas1986: svgalib-bin (source: svgalib): console SVGA display utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4.3-24 (hardy), package size 23 kB, installed size 172 kB10:30
Agent_bobthat...10:30
Agent_bobtomas1986 you know how to search for packages ?10:30
tomas1986no10:31
Agent_bob!packages10:31
ubottuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!10:31
tomas1986lol ok10:31
Agent_bob!bot10:31
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)10:31
Agent_bob!botabuse10:31
ubottuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.10:31
tomas1986lots of information10:32
Agent_bobfor that "Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids." line in the  !botabuse factoid :)10:35
Agent_bobbah spelled it wrong.  typo'd   ;/10:36
tomas1986its all good10:37
amerigoI get a problem10:37
amerigo how can I check smb.conf if it works correctly?? ... my group is a mix of win98, win xp, xubuntu and (kubuntu)10:38
amerigo I've set smb.conf file with workgroup= nameofgroup10:38
tomas1986whats xubunty10:38
amerigoand it was running perfectly10:38
amerigothen kubuntu samba get an adjourning10:38
amerigoand i lost my setting...10:39
amerigonow i have changed smb.conf file but i cannot see the rest of lan (from kubuntu)10:39
amerigomessage error say: smb://nameofgroup/ doesn't exist10:39
amerigosome tips?10:39
TimSOdd10:41
TimSMy keyboard doesn't work in firefox10:41
tomas1986??10:41
Agent_bobtomas1986 xubuntu is the ubuntu system with the xfce4 desktop environment   like kubuntu is ubuntu with kde.10:41
amerigotomas1986: xubuntu uses XFCE gui10:42
tomas1986is it a better desktop10:42
Agent_bobtomas1986 they have their own channel   #xubuntu10:42
tomas1986ok cool10:42
Agent_bobbetter/best is subjective and controversial10:42
bittinand ubuntu is ubuntu with gnome10:42
tomas1986can you install more then one type of desktop10:43
Agent_boband depends entirely on the individuals tastes10:43
Agent_bobyes10:43
Agent_boball of them.10:43
amerigobut we stay in kubuntu forum10:43
Agent_bobi think i have four installed here10:43
tomas1986ok10:43
tomas1986well i am using just the basic ubuntu10:43
tomas1986what are the four10:43
Agent_bobkde gnome fluxbox and blackbox10:44
tomas1986ok10:44
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tomas1986which one do you prefer10:44
xt828hasn't blackbox been ported to windows?10:44
mhetrallahi!10:44
Agent_bobi primarily use blackbox "when i start a gui"10:44
tomas1986??10:44
tomas1986how do you Xfce10:44
tomas1986install10:44
Agent_bobsame as any other de   you install the meta package.   sudo apt-get install xfce10:45
Agent_bobor is it.  sudo apt-get install xfce410:45
* Agent_bob forgets10:45
Agent_bobtomas1986 that's what apt-cache search is for :)))10:46
Agent_bobtomas1986 apt-cache search xfce10:46
Heliossometimes kdeinit fail to start... is there any solution for that?10:47
Agent_bobtomas1986 you can use the "ubuntu" meta packages too.    sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop10:48
Agent_bobi have to go for a bit.  see yall.10:48
tomas1986i get these messages10:48
tomas1986could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resouces temporarily unavailable)10:49
tomas1986Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it10:50
tomas1986so how do i stop that10:50
amerigoI have this message: Unable to open configuration file "smb.conf": No such file or directory.10:52
amerigoHow caan I solve?10:53
amerigo! samba10:53
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.10:53
b4l74z4ri just opted to put a seperate taskbar at the bottom of the screen but it has two lines, is it possible to get it down to 1 line?10:54
tomas1986back10:55
tomas1986it dont work10:55
Heliosif i am using the desktop, wat is the shortcut to got the the dos prompt?11:06
bergheimAnyone else experiencing user-switching so unstable it's unusable? Sessions crash regularily for me (8.04)11:07
bergheim(kde3.5.9)11:09
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Helioswhen i log on to kubuntu.. i get a message which says undefined video mode: 2df of something like that...11:29
Heliosand it tells me to press enter to choose a mode...11:30
Heliosit does this every time... :(11:30
Helioscan anyone help me out please?11:30
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TRSohbet-869hi guys11:37
TRSohbet-869i m looking for Kubuntu-KDE4 8.04  +dvd11:37
eddieftw!aptlock | tomahasamoot11:37
ubottutomahasamoot: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:37
TRSohbet-869but i cant find it on www.kubuntu.org11:37
TRSohbet-869is there not a dvd version available ?11:37
sasa_مرحبا11:37
sasa_فيه عرب هنا؟11:38
TRSohbet-869selamun aleyküm :)11:38
sasa_وعليكم السلام11:38
sasa_كالعاده العرب نحصلهم في كل مكان11:38
flaccid!english11:38
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat11:38
sasa_حتى في اقصى الشرق هههههههههه11:38
sasa_no sory11:39
sasa_iam no sp e11:39
TRSohbet-869perque ?11:39
TRSohbet-869voglia parlare in italiano11:39
TRSohbet-869hablo solamente en espanyol11:39
TRSohbet-869warum kann ich nicht hier auf deutsch sprechen ?11:40
sasa_arab <<<11:40
TRSohbet-869je veux parlare en français si vous plait11:40
TRSohbet-869ben Türkçe konusmak istiyorum11:40
frojndCan someone tell me how can I zip directory containing datas? my fielsa re in /home/file1, file2,...11:42
frojndI don't wanna to extract files but to zip them11:43
Helioswhen i log on to kubuntu.. i get a message which says undefined video mode: 2df of something like that.11:44
flaccidHelios: try googling the exact errr11:45
Heliosok...11:45
flaccidfrojnd: ark11:45
noaXess!dualhead11:52
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama11:52
noaXess!xinerama11:54
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead11:54
b4l74z4rwhat is the most popular dock applet for kde?11:59
emilsedghb4l74z4r: kooldock i think12:00
emilsedgh!info kooldock12:00
ubottukooldock (source: kooldock): Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB12:00
b4l74z4rok, thanks12:01
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ActionParsniphey all12:03
ActionParsnipanyone using freenas?12:04
myrtille!apt12:05
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:05
noaXessis there no gui for configuration dualhead view?12:07
ActionParsnipnoaXess: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html12:08
llutznoaXess: nvidia-settings12:08
noaXessokay thanks12:08
ActionParsnipllutz: do you use freenas at all?12:08
llutzActionParsnip: nope12:09
llutzi only know it's a special BSD for NAS12:09
ActionParsnipyeah im redoing my file server to get mandriva off it, free up some room12:10
ActionParsnipplus its fun12:10
llutz"fun"? strange sense of humor :)12:10
ActionParsnipits something new for me to try. plus when i get a decent pda i'll be file dumping loads :)12:11
ubuntuhelp with grub please?12:17
emilsedgh!ask | ubuntulog12:17
ubottuubuntulog: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)12:17
emilsedghah12:17
ubuntuok12:17
emilsedghsorry ubuntulog12:17
ubuntuWhen i installed kubuntu, telling it to not install grub, intending to use a vista bootloader, now i want to install grub, how do i do it?12:18
ubuntuthere is no /grub folder in /boot12:18
ActionParsnipubuntu: id suggest installing vista first then grub will detect the install and make it dual boot for you. why do you prefer the vista boot loader?12:19
llutzsudo aptitude install grub12:19
ubuntuno i am used to it though, i am tribooting but id like to use grub instead now12:19
ActionParsnipyeah, do what llutz says :)12:19
ubuntuhow do i know which disc to use12:19
ubuntuhard disc12:19
llutzubuntu: install it to root-partition12:20
ubuntuim using live cd atm, cant get to my kubuntu install12:20
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ubuntuthanks guys but im just going to reinstall12:24
ActionParsnipubuntu: best way dude. linux will install grub for you see vista and add the line for you12:25
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noaXess!libusb12:35
ubottuFactoid libusb not found12:35
noaXesshey my dualhead wiht nvidia-settings works.. thanks to ActionParsnip and.. other s :)12:35
noaXess!logitech12:36
ubottuFactoid logitech not found12:36
ActionParsnipnoaXess: np bro12:36
ActionParsnipnoaXess: try being specific. logitech make LOTS of hardware12:36
noaXesshow to fix my perrmission problem to my logitech mx700 mouse? if i run systemsettings in user mode i can't access battery status12:36
noaXesssomething about libusb... and permission problem12:37
noaXessif i run sudo systemsettings i can get the battery status12:37
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399374&highlight=Sabar12:37
noaXessand can change the RF channel12:37
Dr_willissounds like a complex mouse.12:40
ActionParsniplogitech don't do simple12:40
ActionParsnipbah Sikth have split up :(12:41
Helioswhen i start linux kubuntu, i get a message which says: Undefined Video mode number... :s12:45
Helioscan anyone help me please... :()12:46
Helios:)12:46
ActionParsnipHelios: you been playing with your graphical settings?12:46
Helioshmmm not graphical settings... but tried to changed usplash.conf and now it is the xres = 640 and yres = 48012:47
Heliosi installed the startup manager to change the usplash... :)12:48
ActionParsnipHelios: try rolling back your usplash.conf file12:49
Helioshow i do that??? :S12:49
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Dr_willisGuess you dident make a backup of the original eh?12:49
Heliosnopes... :(12:50
ActionParsnipoh man, why does no one backup conf files before playing12:50
Dr_willisI bet you will in the future. :)12:50
Dr_willisundo the changes you made I guess. :)12:50
Heliosaahaha12:50
Heliosyeah will do so... :)12:50
ActionParsnipDr_willis: they will insisit on learning the very hard way12:50
Dr_willisO course I rember the old dos editor and the teacheres teaching us to 'close the program.. it will ask to save....'   BAD BAD BAD habbit to get into.12:51
Helios!LILO12:51
Helios!lilo12:51
Dr_willisi dident think lilo used usplash12:51
Helioslol12:52
Helioscan i purge splash and install it again? :)12:52
Dr_willisproberly can.12:52
Dr_willis:)12:52
Heliosit will not cause any problem?12:52
Dr_willisNo idea. I dont bend over too far backwards for eyecandy like that.. I dotn see why it would cause any problems12:53
ubottulilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.12:53
Dr_willisI tend to disable the splash and framebuffer.12:53
ActionParsnipme too. eyecandy to me is pointless12:53
Heliosah it's same as grub12:53
Helios!grub12:53
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:53
ActionParsnipespecially splash screens that are onscreen for like 3 seconds and its causing all this aggro12:54
deekz /msg nickserv set unfiltered on13:08
Helios:)13:09
BluesKajhowdy all13:14
ActionParsniphey bluszcz13:15
Dr_willisHeh - the fluxbuntu splash screen is a pocketwatch with the hands moving around.13:24
BluesKajoh,  hi ActionParsnip...I'm pretty sure you meant me13:24
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: yeah sorry, long day today. stupid esx servers shortening my life13:25
BluesKajActionParsnip, VMware esx servers ?13:36
ActionParsnipindeed13:36
ActionParsnipjust one though13:36
ActionParsnipwith 9 servers on it13:36
crazy_busHow do I add more folders in the computer logo next to the kde logo?  I can't seem to drag things there13:40
azza192hi guys13:40
azza192i have come here for a bit of help, if you dont mind13:40
BluesKajActionParsnip, I never could get Windows on VMware to connect to the internet running ontop of kubuntu , so I decided to keep the ntfs partition13:41
ActionParsnipwe use redhat esx with 2003 servers ontop13:41
BluesKaj!ask | azza19213:42
ubottuazza192: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)13:42
azza192i have just installed the kde environment and would like to start theming but i have no idea what im doing13:42
azza192!ask ?13:42
ubottuFactoid ask ? not found13:42
ActionParsnipcrazy_bus: can you provide a screenshot to clarify?13:42
azza192can i chat with anyone who knows a bit about kubuntu and theming?13:43
ActionParsnipazza192: ask in here so we can all help13:43
azza192ok13:43
BluesKajazza192,I just stick with the themes available in system settings/appearance13:43
azza192but i have downloaded a theme i like13:43
BluesKajthat's agood place to start13:44
azza192if i gave you the link to the theme can you help?13:44
azza192http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis?content=7715013:44
ActionParsnipazza192: whats the full filename of the thing you have downloaded13:44
azza192azeinis13:45
azza192azenis*13:45
azza192i got it from kde look13:45
azza192i just figured out how to use the desktop background but the rest is a mystery13:46
ActionParsnipazza192: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Install-KDE-Themes/Icons13:46
azza192is that everything i need?13:46
ActionParsnipazza192: have a go13:46
azza192theres a lot in this theme, fonts, spash screens etc13:46
b4l74z4rdoes anyone here use kooldock?13:47
crazy_busActionParsnip: this thing http://imagebin.org/1894913:47
ActionParsnipcrazy_bus: so you want more than just docs / home / storage / remote / profiles?13:48
crazy_busActionParsnip: yes13:49
ActionParsnipcrazy_bus: ive personally no idea but now youve added the pic someone may be able toinput13:49
bebeanyone can help me please?13:50
ActionParsnip!ask | bebe13:50
ubottubebe: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)13:50
bebei use ubuntu 8.04 and if i activate effect compiz (cub , effect rain) after 5-10 min everything block and i must restart PC13:52
llutzbebe: deactivate compiz13:52
ActionParsnipbebe: do you have latest updates13:52
ActionParsnipbebe: what specification is your system (icluding graphics card)13:52
* BluesKaj mumbles about too much eye candy and not enuff hardware 13:52
* ActionParsnip mumbles eyecandy then some incoherent noises13:53
bebeyes  i have updates, my pc is intel 3.0 , 750 Hdd, 2GB memory and 512 Ati X1650 Pro video13:53
ActionParsnipbebe: should be ok, you got your graphics card installed ok?13:54
BluesKajhmm looks fine to me ...better hardware than most13:54
bebei install driver from restreicted drivers and after i set effect i use just for 5-10 min and after all is block i can't do nothing13:55
ActionParsnipbebe: maybe theres an xorg tweak needed for your graphics card13:55
bebeand how i do ...becouse i'm new in linux :(13:56
ActionParsnipbebe: i can only make educated guesses as compiz isnt something I run. Its too annoying13:56
ActionParsnipbebe: www.google.com13:56
ActionParsnipbebe: can we have a pastebin of your xrg.conf13:56
ActionParsnip!paste | bebe13:56
ubottubebe: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)13:56
ActionParsnip*xorg.conf13:57
bebe1 sec13:57
BluesKajbebe, perhaps the ppl at #compiz-fusion can help you better than we can13:57
* ActionParsnip thinks c-f isnt worth the heartache13:59
azza192just a quick question, how do i get to kde control centre?14:00
llutzazza192: alt-f2: kcontrol14:00
azza192thanks14:00
BluesKajActionParsnip, some ppl are into window dressing and wobbly windows etc ...gets boring real fast once the wow factoe wears off :)14:00
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: yeah my rg came with it. had it for a weekm got annoying14:01
ActionParsniprg == rig14:01
llutzActionParsnip: but it seems to be the most important thing for all those noobs14:01
ActionParsnipid rather have speed14:01
ActionParsnipi think they see the vids on youtube then think "ooh i fancy that"14:02
nosrednaekimheh.... on the right hardware.... compiz can be faster than Kwin14:04
nosrednaekimi.e. , large graphics card and slower processor :P14:05
ActionParsnipkwin is fine for me14:05
ActionParsnipwith plastik theme and blue background14:05
bebeActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15076/ my x conf14:05
nosrednaekimbut no-one has a computer like that, so it kinda silly.14:05
ActionParsnipi call it...default14:05
nosrednaekimActionParsnip: haha14:05
nosrednaekimbebe: you are on hardy heron, right?14:05
bebeyes14:06
ActionParsnipbebe you sure there isnt more?14:06
nosrednaekimok.. that looks fine14:07
bebeyes i'm sure just this14:07
ActionParsnipbebe: ok, im used to seeing the wacom bits14:07
ActionParsnipbebe: the main bit is Driver"fglrx"14:07
nosrednaekimyou don't need the load glx though....14:07
nosrednaekimget rid of that.14:08
ActionParsnipyou may need some extra options in there14:08
nosrednaekimActionParsnip: nah.. its not like nvidia, no need for extra options14:08
bebeand how i do this :(14:08
ActionParsniphttp://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=603595 seems useful14:09
nosrednaekimwait a sec....14:09
bdoganyway to add beryl to this kubuntu apparatus?14:09
ActionParsnipbdog: its compiz-fusion now14:10
nosrednaekimdid you run "aticonfig --initial"?14:10
nosrednaekim!compiz14:10
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion14:10
ActionParsnip!compiz | bdog14:10
ubottubdog: please see above14:10
bdogoh thanks14:10
* ActionParsnip counts 2 eyecandy people14:10
josahow do i add shortcut icons to desktop or kde panel? i get no "create new" options when rigth clicking14:14
SlimeyPetejosa: make sure you've unlocked the panel first14:14
ActionParsnipjosa: go into ~/Desktop14:14
ActionParsnipln -s /path/to/program14:15
ActionParsnipif you don't know it use which (eg. which firefox)14:15
nosrednaekimjosa: wait.... are you on kde4?14:15
josayes kde414:15
nosrednaekim:P14:16
nosrednaekimok... ActionParsnip's trick should still work... I think.14:16
* ActionParsnip isnt down wid the kde4 crew14:16
josaill try.. but i guess it only adds it to desktop14:16
ActionParsnipjosa: yeah thats a deskto pshortcut14:17
ActionParsnipif you right click the kde panel you can select modify or edit and add stuff14:17
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chev_chelioswassup dudes???14:18
ActionParsnipwerd up chev_chelios14:18
chev_cheliosare you using compiz fusion on your kde?14:19
josaActionParsnip: yes iirc that was the case in kde3.. now everything seems so messed up in kde414:19
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: I am not... but you can14:21
nosrednaekimjosa: IIRC, you can drag things from the kickoff menu onto the panel14:21
nosrednaekimIDK about the desktop14:21
chev_cheliosI am not so sure... It seems to be messing some settings. Kde window decorator and emerald are killing each other. nowandthen I have no window decoration untill I reload my windo manager a few times.14:22
josaargh... actually i meant how to add shortcuts to kickoff menu, not panel :)14:22
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: remove the package "compiz-kde" if you using emerald14:22
nosrednaekimjosa: lol, run "kmenuedit"14:23
chev_cheliosand it will work???14:23
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: that should fix that problem, yes14:23
chev_chelioscannot be that simple:)14:23
chev_cheliosYou are the first to suggest me that fix. Thanx alot!14:23
irinaа я пишу по русски =P14:23
chev_cheliosnemoj14:24
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: oh.... and how are you running compiz?14:24
BluesKaj!ru | irina14:24
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josathanks, but how was i suppose to know that program :D14:24
ActionParsnipjosa: i'm sat on kde3.5 til 4 gets sorted. Seems a bit weird to me14:24
chev_cheliosi installed compiz fusion and loaded it, and when I restart, and every next time I start, it has no windwo decoration. I am using everything default from the rmai repo14:24
josainstall "fusion-icon"14:25
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: theres an xorg.conf line you need to add14:25
chev_cheliosinstalled14:25
josathen add it to autostart on .kde14:25
ActionParsnipmind you i did it ages ago its probably all changed14:25
chev_chelioswhich one? why does it has to be done manually?14:25
josai dunno, but that's the way i got it working14:25
BluesKajActionParsnip, I see no advantage to kde4 ..I don't understand the what those widget things are supposed to do ( replace desktop and panel icons ? ) and how they work14:26
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: use the "desktop effects" program in settings...14:26
reesehi! is there a way to compile and install a package and to make adept recognize it as installed?14:26
nosrednaekim!checkinstall14:27
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!14:27
chev_cheliosok. and do what with it? enable settings?14:27
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: its meant to be lighter in ram14:27
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: enable it there, and it will be started immediately14:27
nosrednaekim*automatically on ever re-login14:27
chev_cheliosI did that, and it messes with window decorations. I have to reload window manager every time I start the kde14:27
nosrednaekimodd14:28
nosrednaekimthen don't do that :P14:28
BluesKajActionParsnip, when I tried moving the widget/icons into the panel they'd disappear14:28
chev_cheliosit startss automatically, and it doesn't work properly.14:28
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: i use yakuake mainly. cli is the future14:28
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: what gfx card you got?14:28
chev_cheliosi disabled it yntill i figure out how to change it. To be honest, i HATE GNOME, and I like compiz, but cannot make it work on my KDE 3.5.9 like it works on GNOME14:29
chev_cheliosintel i915.14:29
chev_cheliosI have nio problems with the drivers14:29
chev_cheliosno14:29
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: if youpresF11 twice do they reappear?14:30
emilsedghchev_chelios: so you should hope for a 'feature parity' for kwin14:30
chev_cheliosI dunno. never did that14:30
chev_chelios?14:31
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: try this lot http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-edgy/14:31
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: backup config files BEFORE editting14:31
chev_cheliosallrighty14:32
chev_cheliosthis seams to be for edgy, I am using hardy. i hope there is no difference14:32
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ActionParsnipchev_chelios: should be ok14:33
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: you can always roll back easily14:33
chev_cheliosdoes anyone has similar problems or not?14:33
* ActionParsnip doesnt run compiz14:33
chev_cheliosthe only distro i maganed to make compiz work properly was simplyMEPIS 7, but it ran slowly, so I installed kubuntu.14:34
chev_cheliosso, I am the only bloke trying to run compiz on KDE?14:34
chev_chelios:)14:34
nosrednaekimno.. i've done it before, and without problems such as those14:34
ActionParsnipit loses its appeal quickly and becomes annoying14:34
BluesKajchev_chelios, have you considered asking in #compiz-fusion ?14:35
josaim running without problems on kde414:35
ActionParsnipi have  pc that canrun it ok and even that doesnt haveit on14:35
chev_cheliosdepends what are you using. I find viewports VERY easing my way in desktop, making my work easier, i like that, and i like some minimal effects14:35
chev_cheliosjosa, you are on KDe4, I am on kde3:)14:36
BruterFor greek chanel ubuntu?14:36
chev_cheliosi will upgrade when 4.1 comes, or maybe I'll wait for 4.214:36
josayeah i know, i just had to say that :)14:36
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chev_cheliosjosa, do you like kde4? what apps do you use? is it stable? usable?14:37
ActionParsnipwow i guessed right14:37
josawell, i've had it only for some weeks14:37
ActionParsnipjosa: do you still have kde3 libs installed ?14:37
josai did a fresh install, and installed that kubuntu with kde4 thing14:37
josajust backed up /home etc.14:38
ActionParsnipjosa: some apps (from knowledge) dont use kde4 yet so you may have kde3.5 installed as well14:38
josai think so too, there are .kde and .kde4 on my home14:38
chev_cheliosI am using konversation, amarok, kaffeine, ktorrent, firefox, zompiz, kopete, openoffice, xine, krusader. When those apps get running on kde4, I wil switch14:38
chev_cheliossome apps are still using kde3 libs, yes14:39
josayes, now that you said that, i.e amarok is not kde414:39
flaccidsome of those are not kde/qt apps :)14:39
josaand i run it, so of course i have kde3 libs :)14:39
flaccidamarok 2 is kde414:40
ActionParsnipi use firefox, thunderbird, pidgin, yakuake14:40
chev_cheliosi want my computer to run FAST and stable, and have a minimal compiz on my kde. That is how i like my koffee:)14:40
ActionParsnipand openoffice14:40
chev_cheliosi tried sidux (too hardcore for me, but MY GOD is it fast)14:41
chev_cheliosthey use 2.5.914:41
chev_cheliossorry, 3.5.914:41
chev_cheliosthe only one that could compete with their speed was kubuntu.14:41
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flaccidpc-bsd *hiccup*14:42
chev_cheliosI heard that ubuntu has only one person that works on kde, is it correct?14:42
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: tried gentoo14:42
flaccidchev_chelios: negative14:42
chev_cheliosgentoo is just a distro with no  ppoint for me. I mean, a want to USE my computer, not COMPILE IT untill I die14:42
chev_cheliospc-bsd is pretty and fast too, but what's with that pbi thingy? no apps at all...14:43
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: takes a few days of compiling but its nice whenyou get there. Im the same though14:43
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: no.... there are plenty of ubuntu developers working on kde... only one paid.. but lots of volunteers14:43
chev_cheliosi hate compiling (the waiting part) and it is not that faster either, I know a man that compiled for !!!three days!!! and managed to have a 3% faster system than outofthebox kubuntu or some other i dunno14:44
chev_chelios:) twhat a waste of time and resources:)14:45
* Dr_willis wonders how one even benchmarks the 'this is faster then that' statements...14:45
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: some folks enjoy it14:45
chev_cheliosenjoy what?14:45
chev_chelioswaiting for the compiling that never ends?14:45
ActionParsniptuneing their systems14:45
ActionParsnipeach to their own14:46
chev_cheliostuning is when you make it at least 20-30% faster, not 3% that is nothing, unless you are exploring space14:46
nosrednaekimDr_willis: no doubt about it...gentoo is far faster...14:46
nosrednaekimI'd say at least 10%14:46
Dr_willisprove it.  - How can you.14:46
Dr_williswindows are drawing faster?14:46
nosrednaekimopening times of applications14:47
chev_cheliosthat is like tuning your car to have 103 insted of 100 horse powers. no point in that :)14:47
Dr_willismouse moves faster?14:47
nosrednaekimhehe14:47
* ActionParsnip gives Dr_willis a stopwatch14:47
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: like I said, if people wanna do it, they can14:47
chev_cheliossystem start 2-5 seconds faster, windows appear 1 second faster and so on.14:47
ActionParsnipi dont cos i doubt i'll notice it with my minimal pc usage14:47
chev_cheliosthey can, I am not saying they can't14:47
chev_cheliosbut what's the point in doing that??? I do not see it. Maybe someone does...14:48
Dr_willisi recall some sort of company/group making a Linux Benchmark Suite. But i dont rember who it weas.14:48
nosrednaekimphoronix14:48
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: fun i guess14:48
chev_cheliosopenoffice opens in 5 seconds insted of 7 i think. that is noticable :)14:48
ActionParsnipchev_chelios: i did it once, compiling xorg + kde takes days14:49
chev_cheliosi know! pointless. in those days you could get so much things done by using your system.14:49
chev_cheliosi recompiled mandrake 9.3 kernel once. and never compiled again:)14:49
chev_cheliostook me whole day, and nothing changed. (nothing I could see or feel)14:50
chev_cheliosback in those old starting days...14:50
ActionParsnipwell you can add modules to your kernel with compiling but why bother when you can load it as a module14:50
chev_cheliosyep. I didn't know a thing a few years ago when i started using linux. now, I am searching for a stable fairly fast kde distro, and I ended up with kubuntu (for now)14:51
ActionParsnipi just want ease hence kubuntu14:52
chev_cheliosi fell in love with compiz, and now, I cannot make it working like I want to.14:52
chev_cheliosme214:52
ActionParsnipi work on servers all day. I dont want hasstle when i get in14:52
chev_cheliosI am on ubuntu now, using kde, but I am downloading kubuntu and I will reintall. I REALLY hate gnome and it's FOOT logo.14:52
ActionParsnipwhats wrong with gnome?14:53
chev_cheliosI mean, WHY are all linux icons, logos and other graphic stuff looking like they are made for little kids by a bunch of little kids??? I really like some serousness (i made this word up) in my linux looks.14:53
chev_chelioswell, applications are far much better for kde, and i hate gnome look and feel. Everytrhing about it, except it's speeed.14:54
ActionParsnipmy theory is it was seen as a nerdy OS so they jazzed it up with "fun" icons14:54
BluesKajchev_chelios, you're talking about kde4 , right ?14:54
chev_chelioswell, kde4 is a nice start. I mean, I am using crystal project ikons on my kde14:55
chev_cheliosit is great looking.14:55
ActionParsnipi rarely use xserver unless im web browsing14:55
chev_cheliosi hate icons and logos made to look like they suppose to atract little kids.14:55
chev_chelioswell, it all comes to liking of it. You like console, i like X.14:56
ActionParsnipor yakuake which to me should be standard14:56
chev_cheliosi use to like console stuff, but took me soo much time to do stuff, and I started using X.14:56
chev_cheliosyakuake is pretty good.'14:56
BluesKajkde3.5.9 has mature looking icons imo and as long as they're recognizable that's fine ..silly cartoonie icons like kde4 are distracring and annoying14:57
ActionParsnipsome stuff a gui is nice but ive helped so many times in ##windows with command line stuff. Im just used to it14:57
chev_cheliosany single distro i install, i have to spend 3 or more hours making it look like it is not a 3yearold kids art masterpiece:)14:57
chev_cheliosI give my congratulations for everaldo for making fisrt serious X look for kde4 icons14:57
BluesKajActionParsnip, yeah , been a windows guy since 1990 , so silly looking stuff irks me14:58
chev_cheliosBluesKaj:  hasa a point. why are there so much cartoon stuff in kde and gnome? I mean who ever thought that a FOOT is a good logo for anything except a foot creame or some footware:)14:59
BluesKajbeen a serious linux guy for the last 314:59
chev_cheliosi used linux since 2002-200214:59
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ActionParsnipchev_chelios: i had redhat 6 then moved to mandrake15:00
chev_cheliosbefore that i used pirate window$ and hated every single part of it:)15:00
nosrednaekimbeen using linux all my life :)15:00
ActionParsnipnot sure when it was15:00
nosrednaekimwell.... almost15:00
ActionParsnipkinda missed xp completely apart from at work15:00
chev_cheliosmy vigin braking was mandrade 915:00
chev_chelios:)15:00
chev_cheliosor was it 8?15:00
* ActionParsnip remembers no automount15:01
* ActionParsnip shudders15:01
BluesKajhehe chev_chelios ...yeah been dabling in linux for 6-7 yrs but kubuntu dapper convinced me to switch , altho i confess I still dual boot with xp.15:01
chev_cheliosused rh8 once... a ws stuck with mandrake untill verion 10, and then migrated to suse, untill i heard of ubuntu.15:01
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chev_cheliosi dualboot beacuese i NEED to because of my school projetsc and programs they make me use15:02
chev_chelioseg BP Win, ERWin, rational rose etc.15:02
chev_cheliosok sorry15:02
ActionParsnipanyway dudes and dudettes im out\15:02
ActionParsnippeace15:02
chev_cheliosword. have a nice day dude15:02
chev_cheliospeace15:02
chev_cheliosi was wondering: is kubuntu simply ubuntu with kde on top, or is it a separate distro that only cooperates with ubuntu???15:03
BluesKaji wonder when all the media plugins on FF3B5 will work ...some sites are still not loading properly , for eg , http://www.cbc.ca/video/15:04
nosrednaekimits ubuntu with kde instead of Gnome15:04
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: indeed... and it especially troubling with 64 bit...15:04
chev_cheliosBluesKaj, is this pronouced like bluesky?15:05
BluesKajblues-ky , with emphasis on the blues :)15:06
chev_cheliosok. because that is how i pronounce blue sky, I am from Serbia:)15:06
BluesKajmy name rhymes with sky, yes15:06
BluesKajkaj is a swedish name also spelled kai in denmark and germany15:07
florianHi!15:07
chev_cheliosis there kkynaptic for kubuntu (synaptic for kde) or we suppose to use konsole and adept?15:08
chev_chelios:)15:08
florianIn adept, wenn i installed an application (eg. java), how to click the ok-button?15:08
nosrednaekimadept or console... though you can still use synaptic15:08
chev_cheliosapply changes florian15:08
chev_cheliosok15:08
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: you can use any gnome program in kde and vice versa15:09
chev_cheliosthird button from the left i think florian15:09
chev_cheliosyep15:09
chev_cheliosbut i like kde15:09
BluesKajjava may ask for an agreement15:09
chev_cheliosi use synaptic in kde, and it draws ugly.15:09
florianI have to show the details and there is the license agreement which must be accepted15:09
chev_cheliosand kde apps draw pretty nice in gnome15:10
florianbut i cannot cause my keyboard-input is not directed to that (konsole?)-Window15:10
BluesKajyeah synaptic looks terrible on hardy ...disappointing but it srill works well15:10
chev_chelios?15:10
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: go into system settings->appearnce->gtk apps15:10
florianand show/hide-details are the only buttons visible15:10
chev_cheliosand then?15:10
nosrednaekimchev_chelios: apply kde theme to gtk apps15:11
chev_cheliosi didnt't install that part:)15:11
chev_cheliosi will install it:)15:11
chev_cheliosflorian can you maximise the window?15:11
florianI can maximise adept15:12
BluesKajnosrednaekim, is relogin required for the gtk effects to work ?15:13
chev_cheliosyou are having problem installing an application because you cannot see where to click, right?15:13
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah.. I think so15:14
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: and i'm not sure what it does to application openwith kdesudo15:14
chev_cheliossimply save a sessiong, relogin and all your apps will be restored15:15
nosrednaekimyou may have to kdesudo system settings and do the same thing15:15
IA-OutdoorsAnybody knows what gives with all these sorts of errors when trying to do an update: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main bash 3.2-0ubuntu18 404 Not Found15:23
rodgers_hie15:26
geniiIA-Outdoors: The list of packages has been updated but the packages themselves have not migrated yet to the mirror15:27
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IA-Outdoorsgenii: huh, k, sort of annoying to get adept-updater saying there are updates yet being unable to actually get them15:34
IA-OutdoorsI first got the notices last week15:34
IA-Outdoors...show long does it take to get to the mirrors?15:34
geniiIA-Outdoors: Maybe try from command line instead.   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade           (or dist-upgrade)15:35
IA-Outdoorsgenii: been there, done that (same problems)15:36
geniiIA-Outdoors: You could alter the repositories to point to another set and try again15:37
IA-Outdoorsgenii which set?15:38
dozerhi - anyone wrunning kubuntu on an HP 2710p?15:38
dozerI got my one today and have been battling with vista since mid morning, and enough is enough15:38
geniiIA-Outdoors: perhaps instead of us.rest-of-url-here               maybe ca.rest-of-url             or the main ones without specific country code attached15:39
IA-Outdoorsgenii: ok, so basically hunt-and-peck.  Wasn't sure if you knew of specific ones that had the updates already15:39
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geniiIA-Outdoors: I'm in Canada and using the ca one, no issues with it at this point15:40
IA-Outdoorsk, thx15:40
geniiIA-Outdoors: I also sometimes use the debian.yorku.ca  one here since it's local and fast15:42
marcus_Lo there.15:42
marcus_I've found a bug in Konqueror 4.0.4 that wasn't present in 4.0.3...15:43
marcus_I wanted to ask here before filing a bug report.15:43
WaxyFreshhi im running xubuntu and just noticed some KDE apps running and im wondering what the heck they are:ksoftirqd/0 kacpi_notify khubd kjournald kondemand/0 kpsmoused.15:44
IA-Outdoorsgenii: a way around this is to have adept-updater only notify me of updates actually available from the repos I use15:44
IA-Outdoorsseems silly to get errors like this15:45
geniiWaxyFresh: Do you also use kde or only xfce?15:45
Dr_willisWaxyFresh,  some of those may be Kernel related processes15:46
WaxyFreshonly xfce and as far as i know i havent installed anything KDE besides kooldock which i dont use15:46
WaxyFreshgenii: ^15:47
marcus_When I open a website with forms in konqueror 4.0.4, they don't render properly: sometimes textareas don't display some lines of text properly until I click to focus off them, text inputs have a white block over the last letter typed ect.15:49
marcus_I didn't have this problem until after I upgraded KDE 4.0.3/15:49
geniiWaxyFresh: Installing one kde app will install the entire backend to support it including the dbus system.15:50
nosrednaekimWaxyFresh: all of the processes you just listed are kernel processes15:50
geniiWork requires me, please excuse lag15:50
WaxyFreshHow do i remove the KDE backend15:50
geniiWaxyFresh: remove with purge whatever kde apps. kooldock or so15:51
marcus_Does anyone know a way to go from kde 4.0.4 back to 4.0.3?15:53
WaxyFreshgenii: What if there was other things i installed besides kooldock. i think i may have forgoten about a few things.15:57
marcus_Use adept manager to filter all KDE programs, and see which are installed.15:58
WaxyFreshgood idea,thanks15:58
marcus_I've a problem with Konqueror 4.0.4 that I need help with.16:00
pimmarcus_ maybe they know in #kde or #konqueror16:04
david4Anyone use deboostrap to install Kubuntu?16:04
david4I only had the graphical ubuntu CD, and gnome was pissing me off.  So I tried to install kubuntu and almost all works16:05
david4Time keeps on going ahead one hour...16:06
marcus_Thanks...16:06
david4And 4 packages aren't "fully" installed16:06
david4Other than that... I am glad to have kde back....  I am in Iraq and have a crappy internet connection so downloading a cd was hard16:07
pimdavid4 why are you in iraq?16:07
david4I am in the US Army that's why16:08
pimOk :-) just wondering16:08
pimPretty cool you have internet there.16:08
david4But I'd like to fix these annoying problems16:08
david4Some wireless crap16:08
pimOf course.16:09
david4I pay $65 for a month16:09
pimlol16:09
pimThey're ripping you off then16:09
david4It's a monopoly over here16:09
david4I make due with what I have16:09
david4So I need to learn how to configure more stuff via command line if I am going to run deboostrap correctly16:10
david4And google is really annoying me...16:10
david4Any help would be appreciated16:11
tzdok I've ran the update today via adept and got 1 more boot up option (a new kernel i think?). When i boot up in the default option my computer loads constantly and lags a bit due to that... I know this has to do with that update. Any help would be great please16:14
Ayabarais Compiz Fusion supported in Hardy? it was turned on when I started KDE, and I have an empty .Autostart..16:24
marcus_It's very highly likely.16:25
donshanon_hello16:25
donshanon_any one here16:25
Ayabaramarcus_: ok. then the pager and the taskbar applet should be ok by default as well I guess16:26
marcus_Ayabara: possibly. I know I used Compiz in KDE 4 for laughs, it actually worked much better then KDE 3516:26
marcus_3.5*16:26
donshanon_could anyone see my message.16:27
Ayabaradonshanon_: hello :)16:27
donshanon_hello how are you16:27
donshanon_do any off you guys no about apache sever16:28
Ayabaramarcus_: it seems to work well for me, but the pager was not like it should be. works better after I removed and added it again.16:28
Ayabaradonshanon_: sorry, I don't16:28
marcus_Ayabara: Yeah, I noticed that as well.16:29
donshanon_how do i do private chats with a person16:29
marcus_Ayabara: funnily enough, the pager in KDE 4 worked absolutely no problems with compiz.16:29
Ayabaramarcus_: I'm waiting for KDE4.1 before switching16:30
donshanon_does any one here no how to register16:35
donshanon_hello16:36
donshanon_does any one how to register16:36
stdin!register16:36
ubottuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.16:36
Ayabaraanyone else with a 1680x1050 laptop here? I don't think the default fonts and menus look good at all on my Dell...16:39
Ayabaraway too big fonts and window titlebars. have adjusted some of it, but I'm surprised it didn't select a better setup itself16:40
Ayabarasomething is very fishy with my install here. what do I need to delete to get rid of all kde settings?16:48
Ayabara ~/.kde, and ~/.kderc?16:48
jonpolhola16:50
josayou can try mv .kde .kde-backup or something like that16:50
josaworks for me16:50
jonpolwhats16:50
jonpolespanol please16:51
jonpolspanish16:51
Pennycook_!es | jonpol16:52
ubottujonpol: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:52
Ayabarajosa: ok16:52
jonpolmala onda16:52
shane2perujonpol: solo íngles aquí - only English here16:52
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shane2peruquick question, I have conky got it transparent, and then set my background to change every hour, and conky keeps the old background. Any ideas?16:56
shane2peruI killed it and restarted it, and it still kept the old background :(16:57
yasserif i do encrypted installation.....will ppl be able to access my files wid puppy linux ior knoppix?16:57
yasserif i do encrypted installation.....will ppl be able to access my files wid puppy linux ior knoppix?16:59
misleciCovek84no probably not17:00
misleciCovek84without the decryption key17:00
shane2peruanyone know about conky?  and the desktop background changing (kind of like slideshow)?17:01
trappistwithout the key, no - that's the whole point of an encrypted filesystem17:01
drifhow's the cool'n quiet support nowadays?17:01
shane2peruwhen the background changes, conky keeps the old background.  It is set to change every hour17:01
geniiyasser: So long as you remember your password to decrypt the partition you can access them from any linux17:01
misleciCovek84what distro for encrypted filesystem installation do you recommend ?17:02
geniimisleciCovek84: Remember you are in an ubuntu and kubuntu centric channel here when you ask that, so obviously we are somewhat biased17:03
misleciCovek84ok, thank you for your notice17:03
misleciCovek84no problem17:03
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rimadis there ANYTHING on linux that can open PSD files created by photoshop cs2?17:07
trappistrimad: kuickshow can open them17:10
rimadi usually get web designs in PSD format so i slice it up and write html for it and stuff...i wanna move to linux (from win xp) but not being able to do this stuff in linux makes it hard :/17:11
misleciCovek84GIMP17:11
trappistrimad: I don't know for sure that imagemagick can handle it, but it probably can, in which case you can batch-convert them17:12
cbris there such a thing as "debian incoming" in ubuntu?17:17
stdincbr: debian incoming?17:17
cbrincoming.debian.org17:17
cbrwhere all the new packages go17:17
stdin!queue17:18
ubottuThe queue of packages awaiting approval to enter the archive and scheduled for build (also known as the NEW queue) is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue17:18
stdincbr: replace hardy with intrepid in that link for the intrepid queue17:18
cbrthanks17:20
cbrirssi still isnt rebuilt under i386 though :(17:20
aspirantbana yardım edebilecek varmı17:24
pimKate doesn't save my settings, how can I fix this?17:24
bdogis there a way to fix my mouse wheel? pushing the button doesn't work.17:25
aspirant_türkçe yokmu17:25
pim!tu17:25
ubottuFactoid tu not found17:25
pim!tk17:25
ubottuFactoid tk not found17:25
genii!tr17:25
bdog!mouse17:25
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.17:25
ubottuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto17:25
geniipim: I couldn't stand to see you suffering any more ;)17:26
aspirant_nasıl açıcam türkçe sayfayı17:26
aspirant_tamam açoldı17:26
pimgenii thanks :P17:26
poison!swat17:28
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.17:28
saotomeI am trying to setup the compose key function so I can type accenteded characters in the same fashion I used to do in windows with the ALT + [Number]. I have followed the steps detailed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295270 . Yet it doesn't seem to work. Would it have to do something with the fact that I am configuring KDE to do this, but I am using a GTK app? Help would be greatly appreciated.17:36
pmathishi an alle kubuntler17:37
pmathishabe hier ein problem17:37
pmathisnach dem ich COmpiz installiert habe17:37
pmathishat hier alles gelaagt17:37
pmathisdann habe ich es wieder deinstalliert17:37
pmathisund nochmals das system neugestartet17:37
stdin!de17:37
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:37
pmathisah ups ^^17:37
saotomeis this a german channel?17:38
stdinno17:38
linkinxpcan someone tell me where i can change the video drivers in Gnome??17:39
stdinbest to ask in #ubuntu17:39
linkinxpi know but noone its answering17:39
linkinxp:(17:39
USMarinelinkinxp can you handle command line?17:39
linkinxpUSMarine,  yes17:39
saotomeI am trying to setup the compose key function so I can type accenteded characters in the same fashion I used to do in windows with the ALT + [Number]. I have followed the steps detailed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295270 . Yet it doesn't seem to work. Would it have to do something with the fact that I am configuring KDE to do this, but I am using a GTK app? Help would be greatly appreciated.17:40
emilsedgh!de | pmathis17:40
ubottupmathis: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:40
USMarineedit the Driver component in xorg.conf17:40
linkinxpUSMarine,  but i dont know the name of the drivers so im hoping gor the visual way17:40
USMarinewhat's your graphics card?17:40
linkinxpINtel 94517:41
poison!sound17:42
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:42
USMarineshould be "intel" i think17:43
USMarinebut install the intel drivers for xorg using synaptic17:43
DeepThoughtsaotome, why not use the dead-keys setting, or the alt-gr dead-keys ?   Is much more convenient, faster, and you don't need codes17:45
linkinxpUSMarine,  i installed it17:46
linkinxpbut where do i select it?17:46
USMarineyou need to edit xorg i don't know graphically how to do it17:47
linkinxpthere was atool but i forgot :(17:47
USMarinewhat does this output17:47
USMarinecat xorg.cong | Driver17:48
linkinxpUSMarine,  let me see17:48
linkinxpconf?17:48
USMarinecat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver17:48
linkinxpi got17:49
linkinxpDriver"kbd"17:49
linkinxpDriver"mouse"17:49
linkinxpDriver"synaptics"17:49
linkinxpthat17:49
DeepThoughtlinkinxp: please don't press enter for every sentence17:49
DeepThought!flood17:49
linkinxpmy bad17:49
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:49
DeepThoughtno prob17:50
USMarinewhat about the graphics card driver?17:50
TurkSup everyone17:50
TurkCans I ask a question?17:50
USMarinenop17:50
saotomego for it!17:50
DeepThoughtsaotome: hello, hello ?17:51
saotomeDeepThought, lol, nice nick17:51
Turklolz, anyway. Do anyone use Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4, I can't get my graphic card to work properly17:51
poisonim ujsing the mix17:51
Turkam using an IBM T60 with Intel GM945 graphic card17:51
DeepThoughtsaotome: yeah, 42 to you too; do you know about 'dead-keys' ?17:51
saotomeDeepThought, nope17:52
saotomealthough it sounds like a geeky horror movie17:52
DeepThoughtsaotome, ok,get ready for great stuff; if you set your keyboard layout to US int., or us dead keys, or US dead keys alt g.  you can get accented characters by pressing the accent first (like ' + e  = é) ; much easier and faster than alt-codes17:53
DeepThoughtworks in windows too17:53
AyabaraI use irssi and rtorrent in konsole, and on both of them I have the same issue. When I change virtual desktop, the text is sometimes weird when I change back. It seems it does not update like it should.17:53
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DeepThoughtsaotome: or maybe you 'll need DE - dead keys ?17:54
shane2peruDeepThought, saotome that is the best way to setup the keyboard, I use it like that all the time17:54
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shane2peruDeepThought: what is with the alt int setup?  I can't get my ¿ with that17:54
saotomeDeepThought, alt-gr? I don't think I have that key17:54
saotomeDeepThought, I have seen latin keyboards with that key, but this is a standard american keyboard17:55
Quetzlcoatl is anyone know a program thats allow me to see tv stations from the internet (e.g. jlc's internet tv)?17:55
DeepThoughtshane2peru, saotome: once I found that out I never went back; I'm using alt-gr now, then you can type the accents right away withpout a space after it to get it; you get the dead-key behaviour only when you press alt-gr at the same time17:55
DeepThoughtsaotome: alt-gr is the right alt key17:56
saotomeDeepThought, ooohh... pardon my ignorance17:56
shane2peruwhy in my system tray did my icons all change to one line, instead of two lines like they were?17:56
DeepThoughtsaotome: it's different from the left, even though it's usually not obvious17:56
saotomeDeepThought, great, so how do I set it up?17:56
DeepThoughtshane2peru: alt int ?17:56
shane2peruDeepThought: you mean setting up with the new keyboard setting, alt-int?17:57
DeepThoughtshane2peru: no, I mean dead-keys alt-gr (I don't know exact name) is like dead keys, but as you know dead keys is awkward if you need the accents without a letter (quotes for instance), so in that setting it's only dead keys if tyou press alt-gr17:58
DeepThoughtsaotome: to set it up you need to change keyboard layout; lemme check where17:58
Ayabaracould someone take a look at http://imagebin.ca/view/Euq3BRRV.html?17:59
shane2peruDeepThought: hmm, I want to change mine, I have always used dead keys settings, I'm so used to it I automatically hit the space after the '17:59
Ayabarathis is how my irssi looks if I switch to another desktop and back again17:59
TimSSSJ_GZ: I got KDE4 daily working =]18:00
SSJ_GZTimS: Cool! Qemu or VirtualBox?18:00
TimSBut its terribly slow compared to my VirtualBox images.18:00
TimSQemu18:01
saotomeTimS, I tried using KDE4, but found something very annoying in it. I mistakenly took away the main menu widget, and then had no way of putting it back. Have they fixed that?18:01
SSJ_GZTimS: Yeah, Qemu is pretty slow - I might do VirtualBox images by default for the next release.18:01
DeepThoughtsaotome: ok I'm back; had to reset the system, got cooked because of a faulty fan ;-)  itś working now18:01
TimSSSJ_GZ: I would convert it to a VB image but it needs 20gig for the .bin file and then 20gig for the uncompressed HD image. That makes a total of 40gigs, and I dont have that free :P18:01
TimSsaotome: I believe so, but I am not sure18:02
saotomeDeepThought, ouch, everything OK?18:02
SSJ_GZTimS: Heh - whoops!18:02
TimSSSJ_GZ: Liquidat did it last time, i was hoping he could do it again so I could download that.18:02
TimSI was impressed by the compression, over 3x compressed!18:03
SSJ_GZTimS: http://dot.kde.org/1211789022/1211863107/1211884592/18:03
* SSJ_GZ salutes bzip2 :)18:03
DeepThoughtyep; itś on the nvidia all rocking new card I got; it melted the fan so I have to start it by hand sometimes; if it gets too hot it just shuts of so it don't get burned; have to go back to the shop to get a new one, still in warranty period, luckily.. crazy huh ?18:03
TimSIts good :P18:03
DeepThoughtsaotome: anyway, to set di keyboard layout probably you have to do in SKIM; noty sure though, still looking18:04
TimSSSJ_GZ: Yeah. It was a bit faster after I compiled kqemu, but still not as usable as my KDE4 kubuntu virtual box.18:04
SSJ_GZTimS: Makes sense18:05
DeepThoughtsaotome: yep, settings > SKIM18:05
TimSSSJ_GZ: Also, something I found, I added a MacOSX dashboard widget to the desktop and it crashed plasma. Have they not finished implimenting that yet?18:05
DeepThoughtsaotome: enable keyboard layouts, and choose US, layout variant int or alt-int18:06
SSJ_GZTimS: It's not 100%, no - file a bug report, maybe?18:06
Quetzlcoatlso...,is anyone know a program thats allow me to see tv stations from the internet (e.g. jlc's internet tv)?18:06
TimSThat has to be the one feature I was looking forward to!18:06
DeepThoughtsaotome: you use US layout already ?   or different ?18:06
shane2peruDeepThought: ok I changed mine to that altgr-intl settings, and now the ' works without the space, but how do you get the á ¿ ! upsidedown?¿18:06
TimSSSJ_GZ: It gave me no backtrace option when it crashed though. Ill see if theres a bug report already,18:07
DeepThoughtQuetzlcoatl: just use your browser, google for online tv, lotsa websites that give acces18:07
SSJ_GZTimS: ok18:07
DeepThoughtsaotome: for á  press ' + a18:07
shadowmancan I use kubuntu aside from two other OS? I want to tripple boot with grub, and I would like to keep my Windows XP and another linux distro. is it posible? ofcourse all on differrent hdd partitions (mountpoints)18:07
DeepThoughtsaotome: space is to get just ' (you press '+ space)18:07
shane2peruDeepThought: that is a nicer setting, I will have to get used to it though í á úíóáßåfßœø¶øöóíáßðfïœø¶18:07
DeepThoughtshane2peru: yeah, takes getting used to, but is very nice to get rid of the space- hassle18:08
ravhello. I just installed kubuntu in my new laptop, and I don't know how to enable my nvidia graphics card, i'm using a generic driver on 640x480 resolution. any ideas?18:09
DeepThoughtsaotome: not sure about upside down ?... you use spanish ?18:09
shane2peruDeepThought: thánks :)18:09
shane2peruDeepThought: saotomeuse the right alt key and the ? at the same time18:09
DeepThoughtshane2peru: saotomeI got you guys a bit mixred up, sorry18:09
shane2peruDeepThought: ha ha, no prob18:09
DeepThoughtshane2peru: aha !18:09
DeepThought¿18:10
hugoSalut tout le monde :)18:10
DeepThought;-)18:10
DeepThoughtsalut !18:10
shadowmansalut!18:10
shane2peruDeepThought: I use Spanish, however with the altgr-intl setting I can' t get my ! upside down18:10
hugoY'a du mon ici dis donc :)18:10
shane2peru¹18:10
hugomonde*18:10
saotomeDeepThought, Thanks!!18:10
shadowmando not speak grench, sorry:)18:10
DeepThoughtsaotome: you're very welcome; it's great stuff, huh ?!18:11
shane2peru²³¤€’¥×¬!!¡18:11
shane2peruahhh, found it18:11
shane2peru¡18:11
shane2perualt shift and !18:11
DeepThoughtshane2peru: wich one ?18:11
DeepThoughtok18:11
saotomeDeepThought, works cool18:11
tzdafter upgrading kernel and a lot of other packages I am now unable to start Kontact, Keep, Amarok... I am also unable to access "Storage Media" under d3lphin. Need help please?18:11
DeepThoughtsaotome: yeah, I can' live without it18:11
saotomeDeepThought, I very rarely type in spanish. It's for my wife, she is the one that needs it.18:12
ravcan someone help me get my graphics card working? The ubuntu tutorial didn't really work for me18:12
DeepThoughttzd: pretty awkward; however, even though it's not really a solution, from grub you can probably still start up with your old kernel ?18:12
DeepThoughtsaotome: oh well... let her figure it out ...   ;-018:12
tzdDeepThought: unfortunately I've tried that as well but that didn't help18:12
DeepThought;-P18:12
DeepThoughttzd, ai18:13
DeepThoughttzd, no clue, really sorry18:13
DeepThoughttzd, try to rinstall those progs ?18:13
shane2peruok, why are my icons in my system tray all in one line, instead of two lines now?  They were double stacked before???18:13
DeepThoughttzd: should work..18:13
tzdDeepThought: w8 1 sec, just got received messages from keep and kontact... started them like 5-10 minutes ago and now suddently something happened18:14
DeepThoughttzd strange... mybe some other process was hogging your cpu ?18:14
DeepThoughtshane2peru: the icons form progs running or starters ?18:15
tzdDeepThought: hmm yeah must have been... although I couldn't find any really excessive cpu usage via "ctrl + esc"18:15
Ayabaraif I change the height of the window title bars, do I have to restart X for it to take effect?18:15
AyabaraI see no change18:15
shane2peruDeepThought: progs running18:15
shane2peruDeepThought: they were double stacked, and now, for some reason, they are single lined18:15
DeepThoughtshane2peru: is normal; they re-adjust; just open some more and they'll stack up again18:15
ravwhich driver should i use for Nvidia graphic cards?18:15
shane2peruDeepThought: no, but I didn' t close nothing, and they are eating a lot of panel space18:16
DeepThoughtshane2peru: xperiment with size of bar and number of progs open, you'll see18:16
tzdDeepThought: the message I received from contact was this:" Couldn't connect DCOP signal. Won't receive any status notifications."18:16
DeepThoughtshane2peru: hm... if you unlock panel you 'll see that the area with the open progs is also an applet that you can move.   Maybe it got shifted because something else closed or moved; play around with it a bit18:17
tzdI might be a bit paranoid but yesterday, for a few hours, I left my firewall disabled... Are there any trojans/viruses that might cause my issue perhaps? Haven't read about that before but maybe you guys/gals might know something I don't?18:18
shane2peruDeepThought: ok, I'm looking into it now, I think it happened when I added the Flag icon to change keyboard layout quickly18:18
DeepThoughttzd: I'm sory I don 't have a clue, seems like real troouble thoug.  Try uninstalling the new kernel.   Did you install the kernel from repository (ie add/ remove progs or adept) or did you compile yourself ?18:18
DeepThoughtshane2peru: that would do it18:18
shane2peruwhat is the panel called in KDE?  How can I kill it, and will it restart itself?18:19
SlimeyPetetzd: it's unlikely to be a virus. It's technically possible that someone got in via ssh if you have ssh-server enabled and haven't updated recently.18:19
DeepThoughttzd: AS FAR AS i KNOW THERE ARE NO VIRUSSES IN XSISTENCE IN LINUX/GNU, SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO HOOKS TO HOLD ON TO FOR THEM18:19
DeepThoughtshane2peru: panel18:20
nithhow can i hack my own key at a dokument thats sured?18:20
pimDeepThought Like capslock?18:20
tzdDeepThought: i installed it via adept. is it possible to remove all recently installed packages? In my adept it seems a bit strange as well... There's 1638 packages available and I've got 1505 installed... I'm pretty sure that's a lot more than i had yesterday?18:20
shane2peruDeepThought: ok, thanks18:20
DeepThoughtshane2peru: is always there, only way is restar x18:20
tzdSlimeyPete: ok, should be alright then :) Thanks18:20
shane2peruDeepThought: hmmm, in gnome I can 'killall panel' and it restarts itself18:21
DeepThoughtpim: whoooops, sorry !   it's to close to tab anyway; im gonnaaa take it of someday18:21
shane2peruDeepThought: nothing similar in KDE?18:21
DeepThoughtshane2peru: not that I know of; only option is lock / unlock18:22
DeepThoughttzd: strange indeed, however I wouldn't worry about it, just try un-installing the new kernel if re-installing the failing apps don't work18:23
shane2peruDeepThought: ahh, no it was the Firestarter icon apparently, must be a gtk app, not qt :)18:24
shane2peruDeepThought: thanks!18:24
DeepThoughtpim: really funny reply, by the way; will remember and tell on some party with geeks... ;-)18:24
tzdDeepThought: ok but now when I start adept it seems like I've got all kinds of packages installed... How many packages do you have installed?18:24
DeepThoughttzd: no idea; I'll have a look18:25
tzdDeepThought: thanks!18:25
DeepThoughttzd: 1062, and I've installed a lot of extras's , however, I have 24909 available; lot more than you, but that could be because i HAVE MORE SOURCES ON, LIKE PROPRIETARY AND UNSUPPORTED18:26
DeepThoughtdamn capslock!18:26
pimDeepThought hehe18:27
Ayabarawhat's the default window decorator in kubuntu hardy?18:27
sanwould someone guide me? i want to install KDE4 on my kubuntu hardy... how do i do it? i am a complete newbie18:27
tzdDeepThought: hmm yeah.... but only 1062 installed? Are you on KDE4?18:27
sanAyabara: the default window decorator is KDE Window Decorator18:28
Ayabarasan: I mean the setting in "Window Decorations"18:28
DeepThoughtsan: go to adept in system menu, install kubuntu kde4, that way all stuf gets in right place and everything included; if you just do kde4 or kde4 desktop you might end up with mess.   With kubuntu-kde4 you 'll have option in login to go kde3 or kde418:28
shadowmanAyabara: crystal with hardy theme i think18:29
DeepThoughtsan: with menu 'session' in login screen18:29
shadowmanAyabara: that is the onew I use18:29
DeepThoughttzd: no, 318:29
Ayabarashadowman: ok. the "problem" is that I have compiz. so my font and window decorator changes are not heeded18:29
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tzdDeepThought: ok, thanks! I'll restart later and see if the problem persists18:30
tzdDeepThought: thanks a lot for your help!18:30
endafyhello all18:30
DeepThoughttzd: if you are kde4, and/ or instal;led extra's it's really not thet much18:30
sanDeepThought: thanks18:30
shadowmangoto emerald setting, and in the title tab choose emerald font18:30
Ayabaraah. it's using metacity.. explains a bit...18:30
shadowmanAyabara: if you have compiz fusion intalled18:30
DeepThoughttzd: yer welcome !   godd luck18:30
endafyi love kde 4.1 it is pretty amazing so far i cant wait until it comes to beta age18:30
DeepThoughtgooooood luck18:30
DeepThoughtendafy: indeed t is...18:31
tzdDeepThought: ok, well I'm on kde3... I suppose I've installed a lot more than you unlesss something is strange with my computer18:31
shadowmanAyabara: you'll have to change emeralds font in order to work, I had the same problem:)18:31
Ayabarashadowman: yes I have, but I don't know why it started up at all...18:31
Ayabaramy .kde/Autostart is empty, and I had selected "start with empty session"18:31
Ayabarastill a lot of programs started when I logged in.18:31
DeepThoughttzd: probably not, I had a lot more, just freshly installed last week, by the time I got everything back it will be much more.... ;-P18:31
shadowmandisable desktop effects if you don't want do use compiz18:31
Ayabarashadowman: where is the setting for that in kubuntu?18:32
tzdDeepThought: ooooh then that's it :) Hehe and i was thinking I've installed tons of apps ;P18:32
shadowmangoto kontrol center and find kde sessions, and see what type of session is starting when you start18:32
shadowmanAyabara: yes, there is in setting or system of util menu in kmenu:)18:32
DeepThoughttzd: nope; that was me, before I crashed and burned... ;-)18:32
endafyso quick question will tasty menu ever be a part of kubuntu?18:33
DeepThoughttzd: there's so much great stuff, it's hard to keep empy space on the disk...18:33
athlondoes kubuntu have any firewall installed like SElinux ?18:33
shadowmanathlon: i don't think so:)18:33
athlonfiredog the best alternative?18:34
tzdDeepThought: indeed there are. I've recently had to format my ntfs drive to make room for a brand new ext3 drive that will go into my new router and serve as a mediabox :)18:34
DeepThoughtathlon: it should, but it's not enabled; search for firewall in adept, you 'l find some config utitlities to get it on; however it's somewhat uneasy; I had trouble with it18:34
sigma_1234Kde 3's life is almost Over:-)18:34
endafyill sure miss kde318:35
endafyits been a good ride18:35
DeepThoughttzd: oh... media; try having all seasons of all types of startrek and still have rooms for apps, like me....18:35
endafyget a tb hdd deepthought18:36
endafyits worth it18:36
DeepThoughtendafy: tb ?18:36
endafyi have 4tb right now18:36
athlonwhats the besat gaurddog or firestarter?18:36
DeepThoughtoh, terabyte18:36
athlonbest*18:36
DeepThoughtI have total of that lready18:36
tzdDeepThought: haha how many GB:s are the star trek seasons?18:36
endafyit would be a lot18:36
endafyfigure 700 megs an episode18:37
shadowmani heard of firestarter like guarddog but with some more settings18:37
tzd700 an ep?!?! gooosh, what happened to old 350 mb?18:37
westernhello any 1 der 2 help me out18:37
endafyidk when i have a show i like it to be quality18:37
DeepThoughttzd about about 80 gigs; itś all divx, luckily; and I didn't get the ds9 (thatś not startrek anyway, more or less)18:37
endafyeven 350 an episode there must be at least 50thousand episodes of star trek18:38
tzdwhoa that's a lot... I've only seen a few eps though... luckily for my hdds I'm not a big fan. Instead I'm saving space for M*A*S*H :)18:38
DeepThoughthave to go, later !18:39
endafyim a rom type of person18:39
tzdDeepThought: ok, thanks for your help today!18:39
endafymy server must have every rom in existance18:39
DeepThoughtendafy: ROM ?18:39
tzdendafy: hahaha as in NES, SNES etc?18:39
endafyyes18:39
DeepThoughttzd: YOU' RE WELCOME18:39
tzdendafy: does that include MAME and all other emulators as well?18:40
endafyof course18:40
endafywhat would a good collection be without it18:40
tzdendafy: then I suppose you have tons of GB with roms18:40
ActionParsniphey all18:40
athlonim using KDE4 and how the hell do make it so when i switch from Desktop 1 to Desktop 2 the panel (where the icons and name of apps is listed in that bar) is cleared??18:40
tzdhi ActionParsnip18:40
endafyya it is quite filling im on my second tb right now of just random stuff and roms and emulators18:40
ActionParsnipsen asus's eee desktop based on eee pc?18:41
endafyit doesnt look like something id want18:41
endafytoo week18:41
endafy900 mhz seriously18:41
endafybreak a ghz18:41
endafymy gawd ppl its 200818:41
ActionParsnipendafy: thats what i thought, the lappy one is great for mobility but as a deskto. not realy decent18:42
avihaybathlon: right click the taskbar18:42
endafyi got one out of morbid curiosity to test it out then i sold it as it was too slow18:42
avihaybpick the configure taskbar18:42
endafykde lagged like a b!tch18:42
ActionParsnipendafy: its trying to keep the power consumption low but for a desktop 1.2 or 1.4 for web is fine18:42
avihayberr, configure pannle18:43
endafymy other desktop runs at 75 watts at 3.0 ghz18:43
ActionParsnipendafy: eeepc 701 runs fine under eeeXUbuntu18:43
endafysudo apt-get install kde-core18:43
avihaybin the taskbar section, remove the x from "show windows from all desktops"18:43
endafypsh18:43
endafya computer isnt a computer imho unless it can run kde18:44
athlonavihayb: that worked in KDE3 but i cant do that in 418:44
tzdis it only 900 mhz on the eee desktop ed. ?18:45
endafysomething like that18:45
avihayboh, I abandond kde4, not mature enough18:45
endafydidnt break 1 ghz18:45
athlonavihayb: yea im agreeing now =(18:45
endafyKDE4 is awesome but not on a debian based distro18:45
ActionParsniptzd: think so18:45
tzdoh that sucks. I was thinking of using it as a server with 2 gb of included ram but 900 mhz isn't worth the effort18:45
avihaybmaybe, but plasma is a rez hog18:46
athlonendafy: how does a debian or rpm disto differ for kde4?18:46
avihayb*res18:46
endafynot necessarily the package management but the debian kernel18:46
avihaybkde3+kde4 k menu could be nice18:46
endafyuses tasty menu and never looked back18:47
shane2peruI tried umounting a partition that is not in use (it is an extra partition) and the os claims the device is busy?  How can I get it to unmount?18:47
athlonwhen is KDE4.1 due out?18:47
shane2peruathlon: not soon enough lol18:47
athlondo they have a date?18:47
endafyno lol18:47
avihaybendafy: tasty menu?18:48
athlon:(18:48
endafytasty menu is awesome18:48
shane2peruathlon: I think I saw  something, but don't remember, google kde4 release18:48
endafylook in kde-apps.org18:48
avihaybmkey18:48
endafytrying to get it ported to kde418:48
shane2peruathlon: or kde.org or something like that18:48
endafyhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Tasty+Menu?content=41866 tasty menu18:49
endafythe ubuntu one works18:50
endafytested here18:50
endafy8.0418:50
ActionParsniptasty menu kinda fills the screen18:50
endafyyeah but it is worth it18:50
ActionParsnipi just use yakuake to launch apps18:51
endafybut the menu doesnt stay on the screen and all lol18:51
adrock358Hey.  Guys. Is there any way to mount your other partition in Ubuntu?18:51
ActionParsnipbring down terminal, execute, hide terminal18:51
adrock358i don't care if i mess up the files18:51
geniiadrock358: So you are wanting to mount your Ubuntu partition from your Kubuntu partition?18:55
genii"your other partition in Ubuntu" is not very clear18:56
b4l74z4ris it possible to adjust kde 4 dolphin so that you have to double click on files and folders?18:56
Vermuxhow do I see the users list on my computer?18:57
gruftihi. is there any way to get rid of that icon animation in kicker/kdesktop on launching it in kde 3.5.9?18:58
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ravI installed Kubuntu on an AMD64 laptop. the kernel it installed says generic, shouldn't it be for amd64?18:58
Xbehaveive downloaded a nice set of html documentaion for python (thanks to help here earlier) but how do i convert it so that kdevelop can use it?18:58
gruftii don't find an option for that :(18:58
endafyyou need to configure the kernel yourself18:58
endafyreason i dont use the *buntus still18:58
ravso, i should install a amd64 kernel with apt?18:59
endafyyes18:59
Xbehaveno18:59
endafywhy not i do18:59
sergiodrfdfd18:59
gruftilaunching the icon18:59
Xbehavethere is no need to install amd64 the generic kernel will work, what problem are you having grufti?19:00
sergioHello!!!!!19:00
endafyamd64 kernel is faster19:00
endafyduh19:00
ravalso, i've used debian for a while, and I use module-assistant to install kernel modules, but I can't find it on the repositories for ubuntu. is there another way to work with kernel modules?19:00
endafysame reason i stick with debian19:01
Xbehaveendafy: the generic kernel runs in 64bit mode19:01
endafyright19:01
endafybut it isnt fully configured to the amd19:01
endafyand doesnt support low level low power mode19:01
ravendafy: should i use the amd64-generic or the amd64-k8?19:02
endafywhat is your proc19:02
Xbehaverav what kernel modules do you want, most come with ubuntu19:02
endafythe k8?19:02
endafyor k919:02
endafyif the k9 then the generic19:02
ravendafy: i tried with debian on this laptop, but nvidia is badly broken in debian, and the wifi also is busted. so i'm trying out kubuntu19:03
endafyeverything before and including k8 is specific due to the architexture19:03
genii!info module-assistant | rav19:03
ubotturav: module-assistant (source: module-assistant): tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.11ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 97 kB, installed size 508 kB19:03
geniirav: In universe repository.19:03
endafyk9 and above now supports a more generic open architexture which is so much easier to program for19:04
ravXbehave: i need ndiswrapper for my wifi, and the nvidia for my graphics card19:04
endafyhey rav19:04
Xbehave!ndiswrapper19:04
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs19:04
Xbehave!nvidia19:04
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:04
endafyi can help with the nvidia driver19:04
Xbehaveive used both i never needed a module-assistant just got the programs from the repos and used modprobe19:05
ravendafy: i'd appreciate that. The hardware driver list shows the nvidia, but says not in use. I don't know how to use it19:05
endafysudo apt-get install envyng-core19:05
endafythe core works the best as the qt version isnt as complete19:06
endafythen once it is done installing19:06
endafysudo envyng -t19:06
endafythen follow the onscreen instructions19:06
endafypress 119:06
endafythen enter19:06
endafythen wait for it19:06
endafythen reboot19:06
endafyand nvidia goodness will work19:06
Xbehaverav you should be able to launch hardware assistant as root, and tick the box19:07
endafythat doesnt always work19:07
endafyand it doesnt include the nvidia settings manager19:07
Xbehavedid rav ask for the nvidia settings manager?19:08
ravXbehave : I did. the box was ticked, but next to it says "Not in use". I unticked it, and ticked it again. It asked me to reboot, I did and I got back to the generic 640x480 display19:08
endafyright19:08
endafythen you need the nvidia settings manager19:08
endafyxbehave what other distros u have?19:08
ravendafy: where do I get the settings manager?19:09
endafyenvy19:09
khaleel5000hello, i have installed kubuntu 8.04 desktop, i am the sole user with username khaleel.The problem is whenever i use sudo comand it give me an error , you must be setuid root , my /etc/sudoers is here http://rafb.net/p/cTv8GF80.html19:09
endafyenvy will solve all ur driver issues19:09
Xbehavenone but that doesnt make any difference, im using kubuntu and can help people on kubuntu instead of pushing my generic solution19:09
endafysudo apt-get install envyng-core19:09
ravendafy: did that, and it's installed now19:10
endafyok19:10
endafysudo envyng -t19:10
endafyim not offering a generic solution19:10
endafyive been with linux since 1997 and know a lot19:11
mendredhey the 2.6.24.17 kernel feels more responsive :)19:11
endafymy first kernel was 1.919:11
mendrednice..19:11
ravendafy: it detected the card and says it's supported :)19:11
endafyyup19:11
Xbehaveit seams to me it would have been easier to go through ksettingsmanager or whatever its called and change resolution through that if its possible19:11
endafyit will install everything you need19:12
endafythat doesnt always work19:12
endafythen once rebooted and all19:12
Xbehavewow, a whole 10 years, good for you, and.... this is a support channel not a whos got the biggest competition19:12
endafyrav do sudo /usr/bin/nvidia-settings19:12
endafyit will take some annoying clicking19:13
endafyremember the tab key is ur friend here19:13
endafytab and space19:13
ravXbehave: I had the 800x600 res at first boot of Kubuntu. I tried to select the Nvidia from the hardware list of Screen settings. That broke X and I have to manually restore the xorg.conf to get back into KDE. Now I only have 640x480 on this generic driver19:14
endafynvidia has issues and likes to drop to low to low resolutions19:14
endafywhat nvidia card u have?19:14
ravendafy: it's downloading a few packages, says it'll take 25 min. I have a GeForce 751019:14
endafynice19:14
endafyyeah give it a minute19:15
endafythe driver is kinda big19:15
ravon another topic, is there a list of mirrors for the repositories? it's downloading kind of slow from the ones in my sources.list19:15
endafyit is coming from the repos19:16
rootnmbnbn,.19:16
pdsI want to connect to a remote computer on my network and backup a file to it, but I can't figure out how to do it thorugh the command line with samba (I need to write a script)19:16
pdscan someone help me?19:16
Xbehaveadept lets you choose your locale if thats set right it should speed things up19:16
root n.lmmmm19:16
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Xbehavepds: is this sending a file once, security not an issue?19:17
rootmadito19:17
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geniikhaleel5000: khaleel ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL                   should likely be            khaleel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL19:17
pdsXbehave: well security is an issue, but I will be sending a file once a day, I am going to set up a cron job for it.19:18
pdsXbehave: I can't figure out how to do it with samba though.19:19
Xbehaveahh, well if your going to repeat it might be worth doing repeatedly but you could try using netcat or something but im not sure how to do it securely19:20
pdsXbehave: do you know how to do it unsecurely? I sorta just need to get it working.19:21
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koshieSalut à tous.19:22
romaciao19:22
Xbehavewell im not 100% but something like nc -p <port> < [file] to host it on a specific port, but then you need to write a script on the reciving end and unless thier static ips im not sure if nc works with nc -p <port> name > [file]19:25
Xbehaveyour probably best of working with samba but i dont know much about it19:26
ActionParsnipif i play a playlist with mplayer (at command line) how can i skip to the next track please?19:27
Xbehaveive downloaded a nice set of html documentaion for python (thanks to help here earlier) but how do i convert it so that kdevelop can use it?19:28
ravendafy: if i update my kernel, I'd have to do this again, right?19:29
endafyyes19:29
endafythe generic one works fine unless you absulutelly have nothing better to do19:30
endafyand u can always boot into the older kernel19:30
endafydomt remove the older kernel19:30
endafyull need it for failsafe19:30
endafyits a great learning experience19:30
endafyif you find you have issues with this kernel and all you can always boot from the other kernel from grub19:31
endafydon't listen to warnings from people who warn you against playing with your computer bc ull never have fun and ull never learn anything19:32
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endafydont ever settle for good enough19:33
endafythats why windows sucks19:33
ActionParsnipendafy: it has some advantages. both have flaws19:34
Freddy2hello19:34
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endafyright which is why i said to not selete the other kernel19:34
endafydelete*19:34
Freddy2how can i enable auto (check) updates?19:35
ravendafy: thanks for the help, i'm rebooting now19:35
endafyhappy hacking19:35
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ActionParsnipendafy: i want to play an m3u playlist at cli but want to be able to navigate within the loaded list can you please suggest an app?19:37
ravendafy: i'm back. it now says it's using the nvidia driver, but i'm still at 640x48019:39
endafysorry left for a second19:39
endafysudo /usr/bin/nvidia-settings19:40
endafythe second option on the left19:40
ActionParsnipendafy: not sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg19:40
ActionParsnip??19:40
endafyno19:40
endafythat breaks nvidia settings19:41
ActionParsnipendafy: can you sugest a player?19:41
endafyfor cli? amarok has a backend i think19:41
ravendafy: what should I change in here?19:41
endafyresolution19:42
ActionParsnipendafy: im gona be running it under DSL but you seem knowledgable19:42
endafyoh for DSL ok h/o lemme boot up my dsl machine19:42
endafymplayer19:42
endafyi think is what i use19:42
endafyyeah mplayer19:42
endafyi love doing everything from cli19:43
endafyits vindicating19:43
endafyi can do everything from cli19:43
endafyDSL is an amazing distro19:44
endafyi use awesome and the hacked x11 and all19:44
Odd-rationalei like puppy better than DSL... but that's my opinion...19:44
endafyright19:44
Percent7Ci tried slitaz not long ago and was fairly impressed with it19:45
endafyboth have different approaches to the same problem19:45
ActionParsnipendafy: will mplayer at cli allow moving up and down a playlist rather than just playing though?19:45
endafyyes19:45
ravendafy: it says the largest resolution is 640x48019:45
endafyctrl left and right19:45
ActionParsnipendafy: awesome bro, thats just what i needed to hear19:45
endafyread the man pages for mplayer19:45
endafypretty straight foreward19:45
ActionParsnipmaking a aba sevr wih sshd to orhestrate remote audio playing, leaving the audio on the server sound card19:46
endafyrav i have never ran into this issue19:46
endafyum sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:46
endafyand put 1024x768_60 wherever you see 640x48019:47
endafyctrl-x19:48
endafythen hit y when prompted to save19:48
endafyctrl alt bckspace19:48
ActionParsnipendafy: its < and > but i got it. mintness19:48
endafyoh sorry lol19:48
endafyi knew it was something simple19:49
ActionParsnipendafy: np man, youve been a great help19:49
Percent7Cokay, am i just dumb or something?19:49
Percent7Ci'm trying to run the demo of the penny arcade game on a fresh install of hardy19:49
Percent7Ci cd to the directory it's in, and go ./RainSlickEp1, which is the name of the script that starts the game19:49
Percent7C./RainSlickEp1: line 20: ./RainSlickEp1_bin: No such file or directory19:49
Percent7Chuh? okay, let's try running the executable directly then: ./RainSlickEp1_bin19:49
Percent7Cbash: ./RainSlickEp1_bin: No such file or directory19:49
Percent7Cwtf? ls returns RainSlickEp1_bin, I can see it in the directory, it is executable19:50
ActionParsnipPercent7C:  is the file executable? (chmod +x)19:50
Percent7Cwhat am i doing wrong?19:50
Percent7Cyeah, it is19:50
endafyyes chmod is ur best friend19:50
ActionParsnipjust to tst, will it run with sudo?19:50
ActionParsnip*test19:51
endafysudo -s19:51
endafysudo ./ doesnt work19:51
ActionParsnip-s?19:51
endafymakes you root19:51
endafysame as su19:51
ActionParsnipsure sudo ./<binary> is good?19:51
ravendafy: Thanks! it's all good now19:51
endafyyvw19:51
Percent7Cno such luck19:51
geniiPercent7C: Likely in the first case the script is looking elsewhere for the _bin file and can't find it. Then in the second instance when you run it directly it's looking for some other file which also can't be found19:51
endafyno do sudo -s19:52
endafytype ur password19:52
endafythen ./ the program and all19:52
Percent7Cyeah, i tried that19:52
Percent7Csame result19:52
endafytry sh foo.bin19:52
endafyreplace foo with filename19:52
Percent7CRainSlickEp1_bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected19:52
ActionParsnipor sudo sh foo19:53
endafyright19:53
endafythat works19:53
endafyhates sudo19:53
pidustried upgrading kubuntu to 8.04 using the cd...but it didn't work..tried doing that using kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ...but that didn't work either.19:53
endafyreminds me of uac19:53
ActionParsnipsudo is convenient, mind you once my system is setup im ok19:53
Percent7Ci don't mind sudo, it's quick and easy19:53
endafyid rather have root available to me19:54
jimmy__hi19:54
endafysu19:54
endafydo what i need19:54
endafythen logout19:54
endafychmod what i need19:54
pidusanybody knows how to upgrade kubuntu using the cd?19:54
ActionParsnipor sudo -s do whats needed then close the konsole19:54
pidushttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading didn't work19:54
Tm_Tpidus: you need alternate cd I believe19:54
endafypidus19:54
Percent7Cin any case, the file is clearly there19:55
Percent7Ci even tried moving it to other directories, redownloading the file, etc.19:55
Percent7Ci dunno19:55
endafybackup do a fresh install19:55
Percent7Cthat may be my next step19:55
endafyi never upgrade19:55
pidusendafy: can't i upgrade? since there is an upgrade possible through the package manager, i guess the same should be possible using the disc19:56
ActionParsnippidus: kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"19:56
pidusendafy: you might not, but if its possible and there isn't any harm to it, then why not try it?19:56
endafyactually it can break things19:56
pidusActionParsnip: tried doing it...but it didn't do anything.19:57
endafynone of my programs worked when i upgraded from 7.1019:57
Percent7Cyep, last time i tried upgrading it borked x19:57
endafyyup then x died19:57
endafyi member19:57
endafytoo much to fix19:57
jimmy__hi mary how r u>19:57
endafyso i backed up then did a reinstall19:57
pidussigh!..and then i'll have to keep track of all the packages i had installed ...and reinstall them...19:58
endafyubuntu is really the best there is when it comes to desktop linux but it can use some work19:58
Percent7Cat least with hardy my surround sound worked out of the box19:59
Percent7Cfirst time that's happened19:59
endafyme2 ^_^19:59
endafyim like its about friggen time19:59
endafyeverything worked for me19:59
endafynever had that before19:59
ActionParsnipendafy: it need a "ustom install" option so advanced uses can remove unwanted features at install19:59
endafywell not without some arm twisting19:59
endafyget the other cd20:00
endafythe one with the text based installer20:00
Percent7Cmy resolution was still messed up, but it always is, so i'm used to it20:00
endafyi only use that one anyway20:00
endafywhat card u have percent7c20:00
Percent7C7900gs20:00
endafyoh haha20:00
endafydamn that sux20:00
Percent7Cyeah, at least it's an easy fix20:01
endafyi wish nvidia would take a note from amd and open the darn source code20:01
ubuntu_hi,20:01
Percent7Cthough it messed me up with hardy when i couldn't dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg20:01
Percent7Cno kidding20:01
ubuntu_can someone help me with an modem ?20:01
ubuntu_wvdial?20:01
ubuntu_wvdial.conf20:01
endafyive reverse engineered the driver and it looks pretty basic20:01
endafyubuntu_ yes order road runner20:02
endafyits worth it20:02
endafy:-P20:02
Percent7Cwell, if nvidia doesn't ge their act together my next card might be amd20:02
endafyive been an ati guy forever20:02
endafystuck through the worst20:02
endafywent to nvidia and had nothing but headaches20:02
Percent7Ci used to like ati back in my windows days20:03
endafyati for me always had more fps20:03
ubuntu_its an usb modem20:03
Percent7Ci switched to nvidia when i switched to linux20:03
giacomo_!it20:03
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:03
Percent7Cbut i've always liked ati's cards better20:03
ubuntu_ist an20:03
endafyok its probably a winmodem20:03
endafyit wont work20:03
ubuntu_ dev ttyUSB020:03
ubuntu_ HUAWEI e22020:04
endafy99% of usb modems are winmodems20:04
endafyya winmodem20:04
endafyit needs the windows kernel to work20:04
endafygawd i didnt know people still used dialup20:05
Percent7Ci remember having to deal with winmodems20:05
endafyid rather spoon my eyes out and shove toothpicks under my toenails and kick a wall than use dialup20:05
Percent7Cthose were dark times20:05
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endafythere was a fix but it never worked20:06
Percent7Clol, i've still got a stack of them in my basement20:06
endafyi burned em20:06
Percent7Cwhenever someone was tossing out a modem, i'd take it and see if it worked with linux20:06
endafyhaha20:06
ubuntu_"i get -> modem not responding" , although i can find it -> lsusb20:06
endafylol20:06
Percent7Ci was desparate20:06
Percent7Clol20:06
endafyits a WINMODEM20:06
endafyit needs windows20:06
endafyinstall windows20:06
endafyi had the fix and had it working once20:07
endafyand i was communicating at 6k/s on a 56k modem20:07
endafygawd breakdown and call ur cable co and get broadband man20:07
endafyits 200820:07
endafyusind dialup now would be like trying to swim to europe20:08
Percent7Cit's still not available for some people20:08
Percent7Ci've got a friend still stuck on dialup20:08
endafyid move20:08
Percent7Cas would i20:08
ActionParsnipubuntu_: find the make and model  you may found some relief20:10
ActionParsnipubuntu_: winmodems need MS windows to work. i'd try and get a better modem if its not being supported some other way20:10
endafyusing windows isnt that bad20:11
endafyi like windows20:11
ubuntu_@action how u mean?20:11
* ubottu how u mean?20:11
ubuntu_where can i find a make?20:11
endafyfccid20:11
Percent7Cendafy: ever tried windows server 2008?20:11
endafyi liked it20:11
Percent7Cit's actually... surprisingly decent20:12
rush_nadie habla español?20:12
endafynot a huge fan of vista though20:12
endafykubuntu-en20:12
endafyrush_20:12
endafyer es20:12
rush_juju ok :P20:12
rush_thanks20:12
endafykubuntu-es20:12
endafynp20:12
endafywindows needs to stick with it though and ditch drm and all20:13
endafyi ripped a bunch of crap out of vista on my gaming machine20:13
endafyit is usuable20:13
Percent7Cheh, that's why server 2008 is nice20:13
Percent7Ccomes with no drm crap20:13
endafyits about time thy got the kickoff menu20:14
Percent7Cand is actually reasonably fast20:14
endafyi like it20:14
endafyi have no issue with it20:14
endafyi hate how people bash windows when it is actually a good platform20:14
ActionParsnipwe use it at work as a proper server20:14
ActionParsnipits an ok platform20:14
ActionParsnipto me its if the shoe fits20:15
Percent7Cstill too closed down for my liking, but it's perfectly usable20:15
endafyright some stuff has got to go and some needs to be added20:15
endafyat least they have kernel mode video processing20:15
Percent7Cneeds virtual desktops, though20:15
endafyyou can add it on20:15
Percent7Cyeah, but all the implementations i've tried kinda suck20:15
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endafyi know20:15
endafyms needs to get with it20:16
endafyor someone ubuntu or something will destroy them20:16
Percent7Cwell, maybe now that apple has 'em microsoft will add them to windows 7 or something20:16
endafywith 8.04 i think ms has a huge problem now20:16
Percent7Ci tell you, i've seen more mac laptops than anything at my school20:16
endafynever before have i ever seen a linux distro like it20:16
endafyi hate mac20:17
endafyhave 320:17
endafydont use em20:17
endafyu think windows is too closed down20:17
Percent7Ci know, i don't like apple, but it's clear that microsoft is in trouble20:17
endafyyeah with kde4.1 right around the corner20:17
Percent7Cmmm, i'm looking forward to it20:17
endafyand the state linux is in20:17
endafygawd i wish they would add kernel mode video processing to the kernel20:18
Percent7Cyeah, that would be nice20:18
endafyi did it with the patch20:18
endafyit makes it so nice20:18
Percent7Ci also wish alsa would go away20:18
endafyX never dies20:18
endafyalsa is showing its age20:19
Percent7Coss4 is so nice20:19
Percent7Cit's just too bad that so many programs are hard-coded to only work with alsa20:19
endafyoss5 alpha is looking promising20:19
endafyit adds alsa emulation20:19
Percent7Ci haven't tried it yet20:19
endafydont20:20
endafyit crashes X20:20
Percent7Cah20:20
endafybut alsa apps work20:20
matissehi20:20
endafygood afternoon20:20
matisseupdatemanager wrote the following "You likely do not want to install this package directly. Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package, which will ensure that upgrades work correctly, and that supporting packages are also installed. "20:20
matisseso i should not update that package on the common way ?20:21
endafyunless it isnt working dont update lol20:21
matissethats what its saying :D20:22
endafyif it isnt broken dont fix it20:22
endafyif everything is working and you dont have the want or time to play dont update20:23
matissebut its an update !20:24
matissethat must be better :D20:24
endafythen use windows20:24
matisseor 8.0420:24
endafyubuntu 8.04 is definetally a threat to microsoft20:25
endafythe first time in the history of linux i can honestly say this20:25
dennis_panyone know where kde stores user´s display resolution?20:26
pdshey can someone help me with kcron20:26
pdswhen I set up a cron job through kcron, does kcron need to always be open for it to work?20:26
endafyetc/X11/xorg.conf20:26
endafypds yes20:27
endafyif you close it it will have transfer issues20:27
endafyin theory it should20:27
endafybut not always20:27
endafydennis_p /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:28
shadowman88% done kubuntu dl...20:28
endafyshadowman please dont post useless comments like that this is a support channel20:29
pdsendafy: ok, what if I am not logged into my gui? will my cron jobs work or no?20:29
endafythere is a cli cron20:29
endafyit works better20:29
shadowmani will need support later...:) sorry, i was bored waiting...20:29
endafyits all good #ubuntu_offtopic20:29
endafywhat do you need support with20:29
BluesKajpds , no once kcron is set run a task daily , it will run like a daemon20:30
dennis_pthanks endafy, but I meant the user resolution after login in a (kde?) settings file20:30
endafyafter installing kubuntu sudo apt-get install KDE20:30
pdsBluesKaj: is there a way to set up cron jobs so I don't need to have my gui running?20:30
endafydennis_p: /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:30
BluesKajpds, in other words , no need to open kcron20:30
BluesKajyes20:31
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BluesKajpds, do you mean the kcron gui20:31
endafyo ok i never set it up as a daemon20:31
endafyi just run it when i need it20:31
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pdsBluesKaj: yea, it came with kubuntu, I have never used it before, and I am not sure how daemons work.20:32
BluesKajwell technically kcron isn't a daemon but can be set up run at all times if you wish ..20:32
dennis_pwhat are the settings in Konversation to connect to freenode.org?20:33
ActionParsnipcrond is the daemon20:33
dennis_poh i could look at their web page of course20:33
pdsBluesKaj: yes that is what I would like.20:33
dennis_psorry20:33
BluesKajpds, depends if it's a scipt or a timed task that shuts off once the job is done20:33
lellewhen will Firefox3 rc1 turn up in the repos?20:33
pdsBluesKaj: its a script20:33
endafyno20:34
endafynot til ff is rc220:34
endafyrc1 has issues20:34
lellemore than b5 has?20:34
endafykinda20:34
endafyit crashes X20:34
BluesKajpds , I just use it for scripts that I can't get to run in init.d20:34
lelleok, thanks20:34
endafythey are working on it20:34
endafyopera is good20:35
Percent7Crc1 hasn't given me any problems20:35
ActionParsnipopera is nippy20:35
BluesKajpds , what's the script ?20:35
pdsBluesKaj: ah ok, so if I use it for a script it will run like a daemon right (meaning that I don't need kcron open for it to work)20:35
endafyrc1 hasnt me either but i read that a lot have20:35
dOEPainhello20:35
Percent7Cinteresting20:35
endafyso they are working on it20:35
pdsBluesKaj: I made a backup script to dump my database and back it up on a network computer20:35
endafycant wait for october20:36
dOEPainI recently installed the latest build of Kubunto on my T41, and my wifi is not working20:36
BluesKajthat's correct..as long as you set the calendar to do so20:36
dOEPain...when I had installed Ubuntu, the drivers worked from the initial installation20:36
Percent7Cendafy: same here, default kde 4.1 sounds good to me20:36
endafygawd i dont think windows will have any footing left :-P20:37
endafywine will be 1.020:37
dOEPainWhat are the necesary steps needed to get the wifi on my T41 working20:37
endafyndiswrapper20:37
endafyits ur best friend20:37
dOEPainreally?20:37
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dOEPainUbuntu did not require the ndiswrapper20:37
endafyyes it allows you to use the windows drivers for your wifi20:37
endafyndiswrapper whenever your wifi doesnt work20:38
dOEPainok20:38
dOEPainIs it complicated to setup?20:38
endafyit is an amazing program20:38
BluesKajpds, did you get that?20:38
endafyno not really20:38
dOEPainI have experience setting up Java service wrappers etc20:38
dOEPainok20:38
dOEPainwill have to look into acquiring a copy of it then.20:39
endafysudo apt-get install ndiswrapper20:39
BluesKajdOEPain, heh maybe you can fix the java probs in FF3 :)20:39
dOEPain?20:40
dennis_pah for freenode: File > Serverlist irc.kde.org and #kde20:40
dOEPainok20:40
dOEPainapt makes it A LOT easer20:40
dOEPaineasier20:40
pdsBluesKaj: yes sorry,  I had to step away for a min20:40
pdsBluesKaj: thanks for the help20:40
BluesKajnp , pds20:40
pdsBluesKaj: just one more question, will my scripts run as root?20:41
endafyit is dangerous20:41
endafybut yes20:41
pdsBluesKaj: and if not is there a way I can specify my password when I do a sudo command?20:41
pdsendafy: do they by default?20:41
endafychmod +x20:41
endafyseriously dont run them as root20:42
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BluesKajnotsure pds but I'm just running a python script on my home network20:42
pdsBluesKaj: ok thanks.20:42
pdsendafy: but I need to be able to mount in my script20:43
endafythen edit your user to be able to mount20:43
pdsendafy: how can I do that?20:43
endafyyou can hose linux with one command20:43
endafyK>Settings>Kuser20:44
endafyif ur logged in as root i can in effect gain access through a known konquerer hole and do some damage20:46
endafywouldnt personally do it20:46
pim_Is it possible to auto-mount certain partitions at startup?20:47
endafyyes20:47
pdsendafy: oh20:47
endafythe hole doesnt exist if ur a normal user20:47
endafyif the hole was fixed it would really make konquerer useless20:47
_CrashMaster_pim_: add the partitions to fstab, I believe.20:51
pim_ok20:51
NickPrestawhat does logging in as root have to do with using 'sudo' to run a homemade backup script that uses 'mount'?20:51
* NickPresta shrugs20:52
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geierALhi20:52
konradhoho20:52
geierALwhats sources.list entry for kde4.1 beta?20:53
konradkde 4.1 beta>> what? now is kde4.0.420:54
emilsedghkonrad: KDE 4.1 Beta1 release a few hours ago :)20:54
emilsedghkonrad: dot.kde.org20:55
bascule#kubuntu-kde4 may know if there is such a thing20:55
konradaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 4.120:55
konradhohohoh20:55
basculethere will not be debs yet I would thinl20:55
bascule-l +k20:55
stdinthere are no 4.1 packages for hardy right now20:55
basculedidn't think so :)20:55
geierALwho cares about hardy20:57
NickPrestageierAL, the people in this channel ;)20:57
geierALupstream is all i need20:58
stdinthen you don't need a repository, go compile it yourself20:58
geierALno time, nor free cpu time20:59
Merchelo!last xmb20:59
ubottuFactoid last xmb not found20:59
stdinthen you need more than upstream20:59
geierAL# Debian has KDE 4.1beta1 in experimental.21:00
dennis_pgeierAL: cool21:01
pdscan someone help me with kcron21:02
geierALdennis_p, yeah21:02
pdsI have a script, but it wont run when I use it21:02
pdsit runs if I do it through a termianl21:02
pdsbut through kcron nothing happens21:02
sigma_1234stdin: are you involved with making the kde 4.1 beta packages?21:07
pdsdoes anyone here know how to use kcron with scripts?21:08
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shane2peruIf I create custom fields in  Kontact, can I import info into those custom fields? importing a cvs file.21:10
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dennis_ppds: try #kde21:13
rickestpds: the environment for cron jobs is very limited, it's probably a PATH or other envvar issue21:14
dennis_pshane2peru: #kontact also exists21:14
pdsrickest: hum, what is a envvar issue?21:14
STSXI originally installed Ubuntu, and then installed KDE 3.5 on top of it. I remember when setting up KDE I was offered the option to use either the KDE login manager (I don't remember the exact name) or the Gnome one, and I chose Gnome at the time; I would like to switch it to KDE now. Can I do that without having to reinstall packages?21:15
shane2perudennis_p: yes, that is where I went, seems as though everyone in that room, has adopted the Mexican Siesta policy. :)21:15
pdsrickest: also does my script have to be in /bin or sometihng?21:15
shane2peruSTSX: yes, there is a way, let me find it21:15
geniiSTSX: sudo apt-get install kdm; sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm             from there choose kdm as the login manager21:16
shane2peruSTSX: ^^^^ what genii said. :)21:16
rickestpds: envvar = environment variable if the program you're running expects one.  Your script can be anywhere but either your PATH must reflect that location or you must call it with an absolute path21:17
STSXgenii: I have kdm installed, so do I just do the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" I assume?21:17
pdsrickest: oh I didn't know that, thanks man.21:18
geniiSTSX: You do it for whatever one is currently running. So yes gdm in this case21:18
shane2perudennis_p: ahh, they responded in  #kontact, thanks21:18
geniiSTSX: If you wanted to switch them again later, it would be kdm that time21:19
STSXgenii, shane2peru: Thanks guys, that was as easy as I was hoping it would be. :)21:20
rickestpds: add something like this to cron to see its environment and contrast that with the same command non-cron:   /bin/env > ~/cron-env.txt21:20
francesco_hi21:21
pdsrickest: ok ill try that21:21
francesco_sorry for my english21:21
francesco_somebady can help me21:22
shane2peruSTSX: no prob, genii was the genious with the command on the tip of his tongue. :)  I knew it existed, but would have had to find it.21:22
francesco_i can't see a icon of my secodn hard disk on the desktop21:22
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francesco_it is mounted in root/media  folder21:23
pdsrickest: I don't think I am doing that correctly.21:23
pdsrickest: I was just suppose to run my script and > cronenvironment.txt right?21:23
boggystudiosHas anyone here used ksysguard to connect to a remote machine before?  I seem to be having a bit of difficulty connecting to my NAS to monitor cpu usage and partition usage and such.21:25
francesco_i have kubuntu 80421:35
francesco_i have installed in a disk kubuntu and in a secund hd win xp on fat 3221:36
francesco_but i can't see hd fat 32 icon on my desk top21:36
francesco_any can help me?21:37
francesco_sorry the hd fat 32 is mounted21:37
francesco_in /media/namefoder21:38
bebop_como cambio de canal21:38
bebop_que canales existen en español21:39
bebop_?21:39
KRF!es | bebop_21:40
ubottubebop_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.21:40
bebop_sorry tanks21:40
francesco_come on boys21:40
USMarinefrancesco_ reading21:48
USMarineright click, add an icon that points to that mount point21:49
kgx!guidance21:50
ubottuFactoid guidance not found21:50
kgx!guidance-power-manager21:50
ubottukgx: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:50
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stephen_kgx: what were you looking for?21:53
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kgxstephen_: i seem to have a problem with my guidance-power-manager. it doesnt start at bootup. i even put it my Autostart directory21:54
kgxhave to manually start it every time21:54
kgxim on Hardy21:54
tekteendid you make the script in autostart executable?21:54
tekteenkgx: you there?21:56
kgxtekteen: yep21:56
kgxsorry just got into work, reading through emails and task list21:56
tekteenkgx: is the script in autostart executable21:57
kgxtekteen: yes21:57
tekteenwhy is it different if you start it with autostart and start it by hand?21:57
tekteenhave you tried to run the autostart script by hand?21:57
kgxnot sure, i came across an old bug here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080221/KDE21:57
kgxmine could be crashing upon startup as well21:58
kgxtekteen: sorry wrong link, give me a sec21:58
tekteenkgx: start the script by hand21:58
kgxtekteen: that works. everything else in my scripts starts up automatically21:59
kgxsimilar bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/17750421:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 177504 in kde-guidance "guidance-power-manager crashes on startup (dup-of: 174574)" [Undecided,New]21:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 174574 in kde-guidance "[hardy alpha] guidance powermanager won't star" [Undecided,Fix released]21:59
tekteendoes that start up?21:59
ubuntu_hi to the room21:59
kgxtekteen: yeah it does21:59
tekteendo you have your updates?22:00
kgxyes22:00
tekteenI do not know what the problem is22:01
tekteensorry22:01
kgxno worries..thanks22:01
tornelwhere is xorg.conf located?22:02
eric_hi anybody here to give me a hand ?22:03
STSXtornel: /etc/X1122:03
STSX!ask | eric_22:03
ubottueric_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)22:03
eric_i am running bind9 on my kubuntu22:03
ubuntu_i read about recent vulnerability ... does this also affect the procedure during installation?22:03
tornelSTSX: thanks22:03
eric_alright22:03
STSXtornel: No problem. :)22:03
tornelWhats the command to restart x server or kde or whatever from command line?22:03
eric_i am running bind9 on kubuntu, i am just setting it up. when i do nslookup -type=ns net. i don't get the best of results22:04
ubuntu_..22:05
eric_ i am running bind9 on kubuntu, i am just setting it up. when i do nslookup -type=ns net. i don't get the best of results, below is what i get22:07
eric_oot@Hitman:/etc/bind# nslookup -type=ns net.22:07
eric_Server:         80.87.76.24622:07
eric_Address:        80.87.76.246#5322:07
eric_Non-authoritative answer:22:07
eric_net     nameserver = g.gtld-servers.net.22:07
eric_net     nameserver = h.gtld-servers.net.22:07
eric_net     nameserver = k.gtld-servers.net.22:07
eric_net     nameserver = f.gtld-servers.net.22:07
eric_net     nameserver = l.gtld-servers.net.22:07
eric_net     nameserver = m.gtld-servers.net.22:07
eric_net     nameserver = c.gtld-servers.net.22:07
eric_net     nameserver = d.gtld-servers.net.22:07
eric_net     nameserver = b.gtld-servers.net.22:08
eric_net     nameserver = a.gtld-servers.net.22:08
eric_net     nameserver = j.gtld-servers.net.22:08
eric_net     nameserver = i.gtld-servers.net.22:08
eric_net     nameserver = e.gtld-servers.net.22:08
eric_Authoritative answers can be found from:22:08
rickesttornel: do you know if you're running KDM?22:12
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zeno_hi i just installed 8.04 but wireless isnt working. it did on 7.10. what could be wrong?22:19
geierALzeno_, networkmanager may be broken22:19
geierALas the rest..22:19
geierALwell ubuntu/kubuntu/riddell r just broken22:21
zeno_gee thanks22:27
eric_Non-authoritative answer:22:28
eric_net     nameserver = j.gtld-servers.net.22:28
eric_net     nameserver = d.gtld-servers.net.22:28
eric_net     nameserver = k.gtld-servers.net.22:28
eric_net     nameserver = m.gtld-servers.net.22:28
eric_net     nameserver = a.gtld-servers.net.22:28
eric_net     nameserver = h.gtld-servers.net.22:28
eric_net     nameserver = c.gtld-servers.net.22:28
eric_net     nameserver = e.gtld-servers.net.22:29
eric_net     nameserver = f.gtld-servers.net.22:29
eric_net     nameserver = g.gtld-servers.net.22:29
eric_net     nameserver = b.gtld-servers.net.22:29
eric_net     nameserver = l.gtld-servers.net.22:29
eric_net     nameserver = i.gtld-servers.net.22:29
eric_Authoritative answers can be found from:22:29
trappisteric_: please don't paste here22:29
tony403i have a blank screen and just a mouse upon login. anyone know a solution?22:29
tony403or does anyone know how to disable compositing via command line?22:29
chev_chelioswhich repository gets updated first? main repo? I installed a few minutes ago, and my local repo said 59 updates, and main repo said 71 or so...???22:31
eric_alright22:31
eric_noo pasting no mor22:31
eric_e22:31
eric_any body able to help me with my problem22:32
chev_chelioseric_:  what is the problem?22:33
eric_<chev_chelios>my problem is that i have just installed bind9 and done the configurations. a final test says to do nslookup -type=ns net. when i do i don't get the response that is required,22:40
chev_chelioseric_: sorry, i cannot help with that.:(22:40
eric_chev_:okay , thanks appreciate it22:41
chev_cheliosno problem, man22:42
jussi01!tab | eric_22:42
ubottueric_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:42
eric_ubottu_:cheers, however my problem is that my dns server don't resolve properly22:43
ubottueric_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:43
eric_ubottu_:-)22:43
trappisteric_: how does your box know to resolve against your own dns server22:45
coreymon77eric_: whats your problem?22:45
eric_trappist_: i believe in the named.conf file, there is a reverse lookup that allows it to be able to do that22:46
eric_corymon_: my dns is not working properly, when i do nslookup -type=ns net. i don't get the required output22:47
coreymon77eric_: in other words your internet isnt working properly22:47
eric_corymon_: my dns does not output the ip of the root servers22:47
trappisteric_: no I mean, running a dns server doesn't automatically mean you're *using* it22:48
eric_trappist_: well i have set myself as my own dns in the network setup, isn't that enough ?22:49
trappisteric_: probably22:49
eric_trappist_: i trust its working as when i type in the newly configured mail server name in a browser, i am able to hit the public ip of the existing server ( as configured in my setup) so i am convinced its working to an extent atleast22:51
boggystudiosI can't seem to get ksysguard to connect to a remote machine.  When I try the daemon mode it says connection refused.  When I try ssh it just doesn't connect.  Any Ideas?22:54
brad_hey23:02
brad_what's up ?23:02
brad_I'm just setting my irc colors23:03
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chev_chelioshey, guys, I am trying to install compiz, what are the packages I need to make it run properly and stable?23:12
chev_cheliosanyone?23:14
chev_chelioskde plus compiz equals not showing window decoration last time in hardy kubuntu, so, if anyone knows which packages to install and which not, please help and advise...23:15
zeno_hi i just installed 8.04 but wireless isnt working. it did on 7.10. what could be wrong?23:16
ravhello. does someone know how to enable a widescreen monitor so the graphics are not squeezed?23:19
linuxguymarshallrav:Did you set your resolution high and to a widescreen setting?23:20
chev_cheliosrav: it has tio do with resolution.23:21
ravlinuxguymarshall: I'm using a nvidia card. the hardware tab lists my monitor as plug-n-play, but when I select widescreen, nothing happens, i.e.: the apply button is disabled23:21
linuxguymarshallRav:Open your K-menu - System Settings - Monitor & Display - Hardware tab- Click Admin Mode..-  Then select your monitor and click Configure. Then select the Image Format : Widescreen and select your monitors MAX resoultion under the generic or select your monitor brand23:25
tipexit23:30
boahello how to install 2 linux ?(swap) i have ubuntu23:31
_myrtille_is it possible to get some "custom" time in the traybar?23:32
_myrtille_i'd like it to say something along the line of "00 bla 32 flies" instead of "00:32"23:32
MachinatorSyveranyone know how to set metamodes for nvidia?23:33
linuxguymarshallMachinatorSyver: Check out #nvidia23:33
zeno_i think i figured out my problem, Radio Frequency Kill Switch is on, how does one turn it off i have no idea what it is23:47
USMarine!google23:47
ubottugoogle is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux23:47
* RuyalarPrensi ii geceler cümleten23:48
traitanybody there?23:58

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