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MajostI seem to be having troubles attempting to browse the brz source via the web interface for mythtv03:01
Majosthttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mythtv/trunk03:01
Majostit keeps coming up telling me to try again in a few minutes, and mention the issue here if it persists03:02
spivmwhudson___: Majost is having trouble browsing BZR_REMOTE_PATH=/home/andrew/bzr-exp/bzr03:22
spivmwhudson___: Majost is having trouble browsing http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mythtv/trunk03:22
spiv(damn clipboard...)03:22
Majostheh03:22
mwhudson__oh look loggerhead appears to be stuffed03:23
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mwhudsonMajost: try now03:24
jameshis the branch scanner still hung?03:36
mwhudsoni've no reason to think it isn't03:38
Majostsorry, I was away for a bit03:58
MajostI will check it now03:58
Majostyay03:58
Majostits working, thanks. =)03:58
gnomefreakdoes PPA do gutsy or feisty anylonger?06:15
Hobbseeyes06:15
gnomefreaki dont see that choice for the repos06:16
gnomefreakwhere it says Display sources.list entries for <drop down box> it only contains gutsy and hardy06:18
gnomefreakwell i have gutsy and hardy flash 10 built06:21
Hobbseeso you don't have a feisty source package in there at all?06:23
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mptGoooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!09:30
sabdf1quiet in here today!12:29
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gnomefreakhow do i add tasks for package hardy package gutsy ect.. to bugs?12:29
mptgnomefreak, "Target to release" or "Nominate for release"12:30
sabdflshould be "Mark as release critical"...12:31
gnomefreaki used nominate let me see what tartget does12:31
gnomefreakmpt: i was looking to do something like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libflashsupport/+bug/19288812:37
gnomefreakthe way the tasks are set up12:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents when using libflashsupport" [High,Confirmed] 12:37
gnomefreakalthough being able to also add other releases than hardy as well12:38
gnomefreakeven better example since htis is exatly what im looking to do https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/firefox/+bug/16089512:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 160895 in firefox "upgrade to firefox 2.0.0.9" [High,Fix released] 12:41
gnomefreakone package most releases12:42
wgrantgnomefreak: You need to be a member of a development team to target - you can only nominate, and ask people to accept.12:44
gnomefreakdamn12:45
gnomefreakwgrant: thanks i asked asac :)12:46
wgrantgnomefreak: With the craziness users get up to, it's an unfortunate but necessary restriction.12:47
gnomefreakwgrant: but so many people package for ubuntu that are not on dev teams12:52
wgrantgnomefreak: That's not relevant.12:54
cperrin88Hi12:54
wgrantThe devs have the final say as to whether something is RC>12:54
cperrin88I have a problem with my PPA12:54
gnomefreakwgrant: true12:55
wgrantcperrin88: Ask away - someone here will hopefully know the answer.12:55
cperrin88I uploaded a new version, the package was built but it's not there12:55
cperrin88I have uploaded a new version of my source package, the builder built it but I there is no new .deb file12:56
wgrantcperrin88: To which distroseries did you upload it?12:56
cperrin88Hardy12:56
wgrantcperrin88: OK, where they built within the past 17 minutes?12:56
wgrant*were12:56
gnomefreakcperrin88: they arnt caught up in buildds?12:57
wgrantcperrin88: If so, wait about 130 seconds, and they'll be there.12:57
cperrin88wgrant: it was 16 minutes ago12:57
wgrantcperrin88: OK, that would do it. New files are only published every 20 minutes.12:58
cperrin88oh12:58
cperrin88okay12:58
cperrin88that might be the reason ^^12:58
cperrin88last time I tryed it it was published only a few minutes later12:59
cperrin88so I was a bit confused12:59
wgrantThey're published within a few seconds of :00, :20, :40.12:59
cperrin88okay13:00
cperrin88thanks :)13:00
wgrantnp13:00
cperrin88okay .... I was a bit worried because I made my first shell script for this package and I thought maybe something went wrong13:03
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danshearerhello all. Is this the place to ask details about hosting a project on code.launchpad?14:11
bimberidanshearer: Ask away.  Hopefully someone can answer.14:13
danshearerI have an OSS program (I now realise I can't use the word "project" in this context without getting myself confused :-)14:15
danshearerthat I want to host exclusively on launchpad, because I can't be bothered putting it anywhere else. 14:15
danshearerSo is this considered as its own upstream for launchpad nomenclature purposes?14:16
danshearerDo I have to start with https://launchpad.net/projects/+new14:16
danshearer?14:16
matsubaradanshearer: yes14:16
bimberidanshearer: That is fine.  And yes.14:16
danshearerSo once I have done that, I can then create a bzr branch?14:17
danshearerMeaning that I can have a bzr branch under ~danshearer without the automatic "junk" stem?14:18
bimberidanshearer: yes14:18
danshearerso that isn't so hard then :-) I didn't find it obvious, but thinking about it I reckon launchpad would be at most14:18
danshearertwo short sentences away from it being completely evident.14:19
bimberiit will be ~danshearer/<project>/<branchname>14:19
danshearerI'll try to work out what sentences would have helped me and submit them.14:19
danshearerThanks!14:19
bimberidanshearer: Please do, and submit your suggestion as a bug report: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug14:21
bimberier, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug14:22
bimberiwell, 'edge' would be fine, it's just where the LP testers play :)14:23
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* danshearer is away: lunch gobble gobble15:09
danshearerSo I did my push and launchpad says "This branch has not been scanned yet."15:35
danshearerno probs with that, except it gives me no clue as to what sort of an operation "scanning" could be15:35
danshearerSo far 40+ minutes. Maybe launchpad should say "This could take up to half a day" or whatever is appropriate15:36
kikodanshearer, the branch scanner is f*cked this week15:37
danshearerwhat is branch scanning anyway? More than just bzr running? Some kind of anti-nastiness checker?15:38
danshearerAgain, since it is technical people getting this message, perhaps a little explanation?15:38
danshearerI should also say btw that as per earlier questions today, once I understood the unwritten rules, the 15:39
danshearerwhole experience of getting this branch up so far was trivial. You know that already I'm sure, but I just thought 15:40
danshearerI say what it was like for a first-time user.15:40
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kiko-phonedanshearer, gimme 20'15:43
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kikodanshearer, so the branch scanner is what looks at revision metadata and imports information related to it15:57
kikoone user-visible effect of this is the display of commit messages linked to browseable revisions15:57
kikoanother is the support of --fixes metadata to close bugs15:57
kikohaving said that I am unsure what's so stuck about the branch scanner this week, tbh15:58
kikothumper, abentley: can you enlighten us?15:58
danshearerif it helps I just pushed a new project, so presumably the scanner had very little to do15:59
abentleyWe have several new large branches.  The time it takes to scan them exceeds the timeout for idle processes in postgres.15:59
abentleySo postgres kills them.16:00
danshearerah that would be Robert/Lars' heroic imports of all of Ubuntu? 16:01
kikohopefully not!16:02
kikoabentley, what are these new large branches? and why is the scanner taking so long to scan then anyway?16:02
danshearerQuestion: to help scaling generally, could scanning be disconnected from making a tree available16:06
danshearerwith the GUI displaying a note that there is potentially more information to show that won't be available until scanning is done?16:06
danshearerHey! That's already the case.16:08
danshearerI was just able to go bzr branch lp:daevel16:08
danshearereven though the scanning message is still being displayed.16:08
danshearerExcellent. So modulo a few helpful messages and a link to a non-enhanced browsable tree, the scanning thing16:09
danshearerisn't a blocker for new projects even if it happens to fall in a heap for $REASON16:10
zyx386_hi16:12
zyx386_wher is Admin from wordpress trnslation project?16:12
kikozyx386_, I imagine somewhere under wordpress.org? :)16:13
zyx386_ok kiko 16:13
zyx386_we have agroup for kurdish language translation16:13
zyx386_we ill set a project admin for our group16:14
zyx386_how can i do that?16:14
kikowell16:14
kikojtv, what's the story with wordpress and launchpad?16:14
zyx386_https://translations.launchpad.net/wordpress/2.516:15
jtvkiko: talk to Nikolay... let me look up his last name...16:16
jtvBachiyski.  He coordinates that on the WordPress side.16:16
kikojtv, zyx386_: can you get an email thread going to clarify things? I'm happy to do any admin fallout necessary.16:17
jtvzyx386_: I'm jtv at canonical dot com, can you email me?16:18
zyx386_yes16:18
jtvzyx386_: it's night here already, so please understand if it takes me a while to answer.16:18
zyx386_what is your email16:18
zyx386_np16:18
jtvzyx386_: but in brief, you set up a translation team in the usual way on the wordpress site, then set up a similar team in Launchpad with the same people, and ask Nikolay to add that to the WP translation group.16:19
zyx386_how can i ask nickolay16:19
jtvzyx386_: first thing you want to do is probably to get on the wp-polyglots mailing list (see wordpress site).16:20
jtvzyx386_: he's very active there, so you'll see him very quickly.16:20
zyx386_ok16:21
zyx386_i register my name wp-polyglots 16:21
zyx386_and try it16:21
* jtv hears disturbing noises from laptop16:21
danshearer(I expect people here already know bazzar.lp is not responding.)16:28
abentleykiko: AIUI, one of the branches is https://edge.launchpad.net/~bk-merge/mysql/mysql-5.1-telco-6.2-merge16:28
kikoah, right16:28
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lamalexHas everyone been experiencing major launchpad suckage recently?17:29
lamalexI pushed code about an hour ago, and it still hasn't shown up in the web, if I branch lp's mirror, I get my pushed code though, so it's definitely there17:30
zyx386_hi again17:39
zyx386_i create her translation page for wordpress project in launchpad17:40
zyx386_how can set me a owner for this page or admin?17:41
beunolamalex, code scanning is currently stalled these past 2 days17:42
lamalexbeuno: that explains it17:42
beunoyou can still push/pull properly17:43
beunoLP will just take some time to catch up17:44
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sakjurWill Launchpad ever be opensource?18:32
beunosakjur, bug #50699 might be useful18:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 50699 in launchpad "Launchpad should be free software (free as in freedom)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5069918:34
sakjurThank you :D18:34
soniumhi, could you unsubscribe someone from my branch?18:42
soniumit seems only subscribers can do that, and I need to delete the branch to re-branch an existing project under the same name18:42
ffmIs the new launchpad logo free?18:49
ffm(wikimedia-commons compatable?)18:50
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affluxhow fast should LP detect new releases defined in the "release URL pattern" in a project's series?19:17
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ffmHellooooo!20:19
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ffmIs the new launchpad logo free?20:32
kikoffm, fantastic question. Rinchen? :)20:35
Rinchenffm, Hi. It has no individual license of it's own so it's covered under the existing LP license.  So, reuse is discouraged but using it in a blog post about LP or similar is ok.20:36
Rincheninterestingly enough, that's the 5th question I've gotten on that topic since the contest started.20:37
kikoRinchen, we should probably make the terms of use explicit, then.20:37
RinchenWe should. It's on my list for Amanda20:37
RinchenI've been think we should provide some examples of when it's ok to use it and when not.20:39
RinchenJust need to get it cleared.20:39
ffmRinchen: So I take it it cannot be uploaded to wikimedia commons, only wikipedia under fair use.20:52
Rinchenffm, can you point me to the wikipedia license bit?  I'll have a look.20:54
Rinchenffm,  I think in the case of wikipedia we might be able to do it.20:55
ffmRinchen: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Email_templates20:57
ffmRinchen: That's the commons licence, which lets it be used on all projets. 20:57
ffmRinchen: If that won't work, you can cc-by-nc-sa it and it'll be accepted by wikipedia.20:58
Rinchenffm, we had talked about using a CC variant for the help wiki, the news blog, AND the images.21:00
* Rinchen adds that to his list.21:00
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mario_limonciellcould a launchpad/soyuz dev explain to me what "Failed to upload" means after a build completes?  https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:8.493.1-0ubuntu321:02
ffmRinchen: Of course, cc-by-sa (allowing commercial reuse as  long as the cc licence is propegated) is prefered as only that content is considered "free" by the powers that manage wikimedia commons.21:04
ffmRinchen: Thanks.21:04
Rinchenffm, can you email me at joey@canonical.com and just repeat the above please? That way when I get this sorted out I can email you back. (This week is release week so it's a bit busy around here.)21:06
Rinchenffm,  my immediate though it that it might be by-nc-nd21:07
Rinchenfor the image21:07
Rinchenfor the help wiki it would probably be less restrictive.21:08
Rinchenanyway, I'll try and get this sorted out soon21:08
Rinchen(wiki makes sense to be by personally)21:10
cprovmario_limonciell: failed-to-upload means hat the source was built successfully but produced binaries that can't be published in the archive21:21
cprovmario_limonciell: usually because they are inconsistent of have version that don't fit the archive.21:21
mario_limonciellcprov, so is there a more verbose error somewhere for this particular build that I would be able to see?21:22
cprovmario_limonciell: you should have received a email (build-failure-notification) with the reason of the rejection.21:22
mario_limonciellwell lets see; yeah i did.  it was caught in the wrong filter for some reason.21:23
mario_limonciell2008-05-27 19:40:38 WARNING Upload was rejected:21:23
mario_limonciell2008-05-27 19:40:38 WARNING     xorg-driver-fglrx_8.493.1-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb control file lists section as main/restricted but changes file has main/misc.21:23
cprovmario_limonciell: 'restricted' is not a valid section, is it ?21:24
mario_limonciellwell this was destined for the restricted component of the archive21:24
mario_limonciellneeds to be restricted/misc i suppose then?21:25
gesermario_limonciell: iirc soyuz takes care of the component, you don't need to specify it somewhere below debian/21:31
mario_limonciellso it takes care of it if its not present, but if it is causes breakage?21:32
gesermario_limonciell: the problem was that "Section: restricted" isn't a valid Section21:35
mario_limonciellah21:35
mario_limonciellokay this time it appears to have worked then21:35
mario_limonciellthanks geser and cprov :)21:35
gesersoyuz knows that xorg-driver-fglrx belongs into the restricted component and will put it there (component != section)21:36
asabil_seems like lp branch scanning is still broken :/21:37
cprovmario_limonciell: you're welcome.21:37
thumperasabil_: it is being worked on now21:38
* thumper is back21:38
asabil_ok thanks thumper :)21:38
* beuno hides a robot-cookie in a commit to get his branches scanned faster21:48
ffmRinchen: will do.21:52
ZelutI don't understand why I'm getting a reject message uploading to my PPA.22:22
ZelutRejected:22:22
ZelutUnable to find origami_0.6.8.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution.22:22
ZelutFiles specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.22:22
Zelutthat file exists.. do I need to specify it during the source package build?22:22
mario_limonciellZelut, run debuild -S -sa instead of just debuild -S perhaps?22:23
cprovZelut: `debuild -S -sa` to build a source including the upstream orig.tar.gz22:23
Zelutthank you22:23
cprovmario_limonciell: thanks ;)22:24
Zelutaccepted that time. thanks.22:26
zyx386hi22:46
Zelutany reason why a push I did half-hour ago is not publishing in my code.launchpad.net branch?22:47
zyx386iam member from  kurdish (sorani) CKB, we have just one admin he is (Aras), we will set me and another member to be admin in our translation group. how ca we do that?22:48
zyx386any one help :)22:50
asabil_Zelut: yes lp is slightly sick these days, they are working on it apparently22:51
mwhudsonZelut: the code will be there if you pull from the branch or browse code22:51
mwhudsonZelut: it's just not showing up in the web ui temporarily22:51
thumperZelut: yes, working on it22:52
Zelutmwhudson: just not updating the changelog on the web ehh?22:52
mwhudsonright22:52
zyx386which one is from launchpad Administrator?22:54
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Zelutif I want to backport packages in my PPA to gutsy and previous do I just build the package with gutsy in the changelog?23:11
kikoZelut, you can copy the source across, I think -- cprov?23:14
Zelutkiko: that works. thank you.23:17
nysinA branch I uploaded (bzr push seemed to report success, and the branch webpage did change from 'has not been uploaded' to the scanning message) has sat at "This branch has not been scanned yet" for a couple days now23:55
nysinHow long should it take?23:55

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