tjaalton | there's a new kernel in hardy-updates, so would be nice to have a d-i image with it | 08:02 |
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CIA-1 | partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r203 partman-auto-lvm/debian/changelog: releasing version 27ubuntu1 | 09:52 |
CIA-1 | partman-base: cjwatson * r93 ubuntu/ (67 files in 5 dirs): merge from Debian 120 | 10:03 |
CIA-1 | partman-base: cjwatson * r94 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 120ubuntu1 | 10:05 |
tjaalton | hmm, the d-i seems to be using UTC but the chroot sometimes uses the local time (at least user/groupadd log entries do). is there a way to make d-i use the correct time? I think we are having some problems because of that (installer waiting 3h for some reason) | 10:22 |
tjaalton | EEST happens to be UTC+3 | 10:23 |
tjaalton | hm, I guess the problem could be that if the installed machine used to have windows... | 10:30 |
tjaalton | need to investigate further | 10:30 |
cjwatson | it's a rather long-standing bug | 10:33 |
cjwatson | not trivial :-/ | 10:34 |
tjaalton | we haven't had this issue before, so it's probably something to do with the machines in question | 10:34 |
CIA-1 | oem-config: cjwatson * r464 oem-config/ (45 files in 10 dirs): Internationalise .desktop files (LP: #233949). | 12:55 |
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tbielawa | hey all, I'd like to know if anyone else has ssh'd into a d-i recently. | 14:06 |
tbielawa | when I get the three options: start basic install, start expert install, drop to shell; when i select drop to shell it quits immeatiatly | 14:08 |
tbielawa | when selecting expert install and then drop to shell from that menu i am able to execut a shell | 14:08 |
tbielawa | I suspect it's a conflict with upkg refusing to run two instances like dpkg. one during the already running install and one that gets executed when you select 'drop to shell'. | 14:09 |
cjwatson | it's a while since I tried network-console; let me take a look | 14:09 |
cjwatson | I'm not aware of any locking to speak of in udpkg, though | 14:10 |
tbielawa | the drop to shell option executes as upkg and with a force configuration flag on the shell | 14:10 |
tbielawa | ah | 14:10 |
cjwatson | anything interesting in /var/log/syslog? | 14:10 |
tbielawa | i lost that log, there was something in it but I can't recall at the moment | 14:11 |
tbielawa | cjwatson, can you tell me where to find the source (template?) for the 'expert install' menu so I can compare how the shell is being executed? | 14:12 |
cjwatson | apt-get source network-console | 14:12 |
cjwatson | I'm grabbing the hardy mini.iso now and I'll have a look | 14:12 |
tbielawa | Awesome, thanks for searching with me | 14:12 |
cjwatson | oh, you mean the regular menu? | 14:13 |
tbielawa | Yes | 14:13 |
cjwatson | that's in main-menu (and debian-installer-utils for this menu item) though it may be difficult to follow through that if you aren't already familiar with the architecture | 14:13 |
cjwatson | hmm, my local mirror is not so happy | 14:20 |
tbielawa | cjwatson, I'd like to run a test changing this line in network-console "exec udpkg --configure --force-configure di-utils-shell" by removing the udpkg --configure --force-configure | 14:22 |
cjwatson | that certainly won't work | 14:22 |
tbielawa | can you give me a point into the right direction on how to do that. | 14:22 |
tbielawa | no | 14:22 |
cjwatson | di-utils-shell is a package name, not a command | 14:22 |
tbielawa | I see | 14:22 |
cjwatson | but if you want to edit something, just use nano and edit it on the fly | 14:22 |
cjwatson | usually the easiest way | 14:23 |
tbielawa | that is a shell script, nice | 14:23 |
cjwatson | excuse me, there'll be a slight delay here because anna is giving me grief | 14:25 |
tbielawa | that's alright, I appreciate you're advice so far | 14:25 |
tbielawa | In the past I thought that udpkg worked similar to dpkg regarding locking | 14:26 |
tbielawa | I'm going to rebuild a machine now and set it up with network-console so I can grep some logs | 14:27 |
cjwatson | blink, what the heck is going on here | 14:33 |
cjwatson | oh, I'm running into bug 234486 | 14:33 |
cjwatson | yow, best fix that for 8.04.1 | 14:33 |
cjwatson | looks like it happens when you tell net-retriever to look at hardy, hardy-security, and hardy-updates - it doesn't de-duplicate them and ends up trying to install the same package multiple times | 14:34 |
cjwatson | though I guess I can work around it temporarily to figure out your (separate) problem | 14:35 |
tbielawa | :-) | 14:36 |
cjwatson | tbielawa: hmm. Having got to the point where I can actually test this, executing a shell from the network-console menu works just fine for me | 15:04 |
cjwatson | tbielawa: this is in Ubuntu 8.04; are you using the same version? | 15:05 |
tbielawa | *back* | 15:13 |
tbielawa | cjwatson, we are using 8.04 here as well | 15:13 |
cjwatson | ok, in that case I need the syslog from a failure | 15:14 |
tbielawa | cjwatson, just so we're on the same page, you were presented with an ncurses menu with three options, and you selected the third option (execute a shell)? | 15:14 |
cjwatson | correct | 15:14 |
tbielawa | cjwatson, ok cool. I am getting my preseed configured now (lost our settings) | 15:15 |
tbielawa | I will get the logs from syslog as soon as I can for you | 15:15 |
tbielawa | 234486 is stopping me | 15:23 |
tbielawa | I'm getting that error in d-i now | 15:23 |
cjwatson | and you weren't before? I wonder why not | 15:24 |
tbielawa | that is correct | 15:24 |
tbielawa | I'm getting the error by using: d-i preseed/early_command string anna-install network-console | 15:24 |
tbielawa | which obviously calls in the libcrypto for ssh | 15:25 |
cjwatson | anyway, my workaround was as follows: as soon as the installer starts, press alt-f2, press enter, 'nano /usr/lib/debian-installer/retriever/net-retriever', search for codenames, and after the if ... fi block add a line reading: codenames="$codename" | 15:25 |
cjwatson | then alt-f1 and continue through the installation | 15:25 |
cjwatson | I'm afraid this won't work with automatic installation though | 15:25 |
tbielawa | your work around is for libcrypto, or so you could get a shell to execute? | 15:26 |
cjwatson | also be sure to not ssh in over an untrusted network, since the openssl security updates won't be applied that way | 15:26 |
cjwatson | for the libcrypto thing | 15:26 |
tbielawa | cjwatson, i tried applying your workaround and I am still getting the same message | 15:34 |
cjwatson | think you must have made a mistake ... | 15:35 |
tbielawa | entirely possible. Our setup here is very in-house for creating bootable media | 15:38 |
tbielawa | I see my mistake, typo | 15:39 |
tbielawa | cjwatson, i've replicated my error. ssh'ing in as installer and selecting 'Start Shell' the tail of my syslog is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15090/ | 15:52 |
tbielawa | if I touch /var/log/lastlog i get a different error message, but the ssh connection still fails | 15:58 |
tbielawa | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15095/ | 15:58 |
cjwatson | OK, thanks; I'll look at that shortly | 15:59 |
tbielawa | and finally (sorry for the information overload) having touched /var/log/lastlog and selecting 'execute a shell' from the 'expert menu' i am able to execute a shell, pastebin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15096/ | 16:00 |
tbielawa | I don't want to bug you any more but I'll stick around in the channel. If there's bug testing I can help you with please let me know. Thanks for taking the time to talk to me this morning | 16:00 |
cjwatson | tbielawa: the lastlog failure is cosmetic; sshd warns about that, but it won't cause a failure | 16:12 |
cjwatson | tbielawa: could you use ssh -vvv to attempt to ssh in, and post the client-side debugging output for me? | 16:15 |
tbielawa | cjwatson, sure, one sec and I'll get that for you | 16:15 |
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cjwatson | tbielawa: actually, you know what, I'm on crack - ssh is working perfectly well so there's no need for debugging output from it | 16:17 |
cjwatson | tbielawa: are you installing in English, or in some other language? | 16:18 |
tbielawa | We are using English | 16:20 |
tbielawa | to be exact, in our preseed we specify: d-i debian-installer/locale string en_US | 16:21 |
tbielawa | If you'd like to see the preseed I'm using I could give you a link to it | 16:21 |
cjwatson | ok, could you try another test for me? edit /bin/network-console-menu and change the 'set -e' to 'set -ex'; then I need /var/log/syslog again | 16:22 |
cjwatson | preseed probably wouldn't hurt | 16:22 |
tbielawa | syslog coming up | 16:27 |
tbielawa | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15101/ | 16:35 |
cjwatson | drat, nothing new there | 16:36 |
tbielawa | an interesting thing happened. having selected expert install, then selecting start a shell, then concurrently opening another shell connecting I was able to select 'start shell' from the main 3 option menu without it failing | 16:37 |
tbielawa | same text in the syslog, however | 16:37 |
cjwatson | could you confirm which image you're using to start with? I'm testing with the netboot mini.iso | 16:40 |
tbielawa | That will be difficult to answer. I will investigate and report back when I figure that out | 16:42 |
cjwatson | just the URL you downloaded it from will be fine | 16:45 |
tbielawa | do you remember a fellow, jeckersb? | 16:46 |
tbielawa | we're using a tool we developed in house in the wvu cs department and I'm not 100% on it's internals yet | 16:46 |
tbielawa | I'm confiring with it's creator now | 16:46 |
cjwatson | I don't think so, and nor do my logs | 16:46 |
cjwatson | though they only date back so far | 16:47 |
cjwatson | oh, are you using a home-built initrd image? that could be relevant | 16:47 |
tbielawa | I believe so | 16:47 |
tbielawa | this software is in need of an overhaul I believe | 16:48 |
cjwatson | it could be that you simply don't have di-utils-shell in the initrd :-) | 16:50 |
cjwatson | unfortunately, the errors sort of go to /dev/null | 16:51 |
cjwatson | hmm, actually, they *ought* to land in syslog | 16:51 |
cjwatson | but maybe don't for some horrible reason | 16:51 |
tbielawa | we're using a netboot iso. it's available here: http://mirror.lcsee.wvu.edu/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/ | 16:52 |
cjwatson | actual iso (i.e. http://mirror.lcsee.wvu.edu/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso) or the broken-down initrd and kernel components? | 16:52 |
tbielawa | initrd.gz actually | 16:53 |
tbielawa | have we discovered something? | 16:53 |
cjwatson | no, just trying to clarify | 16:53 |
tbielawa | Alright | 16:53 |
tbielawa | I'll return in a short while | 16:57 |
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cjwatson | well, the md5sum of the netboot/mini.iso on that site is identical to the one I have ... | 17:07 |
tbielawa_lunch | hm | 17:50 |
tbielawa_lunch | curious | 17:50 |
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tbielawa | back | 18:34 |
greearb | cjwatson, did you happen to see my question on figuring out which file fails the 'is the cd good' check? | 18:45 |
bdmurray | xivulon: Hi! I'm curious what your use case for being in ubuntu-bugcontrol is. | 22:13 |
xivulon | hi bdmurray, from time to time I had to set bug priority for bugs I was playing with outside of wubi (but related to) | 22:14 |
xivulon | also am planning on expanding my interests | 22:15 |
xivulon | given time constraints of course | 22:15 |
bdmurray | Okay, that makes sense to me then. | 22:16 |
cjwatson | greearb: yeah, I answered | 23:47 |
cjwatson | 22:09 <cjwatson> greearb: mount the CD loopback on (say) /cdrom (or boot the live CD), and run 'cd /cdrom && md5sum -c md5sum.txt' | 23:47 |
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