=== t is now known as tomaw_ === Varka_ is now known as Varka [04:45] hello [05:36] hello is anyone here? [05:37] no [05:37] LIAR! === Rubin_ is now known as Rubin === asac_ is now known as asac === slomo__ is now known as slomo [14:45] @schedule [14:45] Syntux: Schedule for Etc/UTC: 27 May 20:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 06:00: Platform Team | 28 May 17:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 21:00: Server Team | 29 May 01:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 13:00: Desktop Team [15:19] @schedule amsterdam [15:19] leoquant: Schedule for Europe/Amsterdam: 27 May 22:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 08:00: Platform Team | 28 May 19:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 23:00: Server Team | 29 May 03:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 15:00: Desktop Team === Hobbsee_ is now known as FlyingSpaghettiM [16:37] @schedule vilnius [16:37] Styx`: Schedule for Europe/Vilnius: 27 May 23:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 09:00: Platform Team | 28 May 20:00: Launchpad users meeting | 29 May 00:00: Server Team | 29 May 04:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 16:00: Desktop Team [16:40] @schedule montreal [16:40] zul: Schedule for America/Montreal: 27 May 16:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 02:00: Platform Team | 28 May 13:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 17:00: Server Team | 28 May 21:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 09:00: Desktop Team [16:57] @schedule lima [16:57] RoAkSoAx: Schedule for America/Lima: 27 May 15:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 01:00: Platform Team | 28 May 12:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 16:00: Server Team | 28 May 20:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 08:00: Desktop Team [17:09] @schedule Amman [17:09] Syntux: Schedule for Asia/Amman: 27 May 23:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 09:00: Platform Team | 28 May 20:00: Launchpad users meeting | 29 May 00:00: Server Team | 29 May 04:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 16:00: Desktop Team [17:10] Syntux, you'll have to wait few more hours, be patience :P [17:13] ♥ christel [17:37] @schedule rome [17:37] dfiloni: Schedule for Europe/Rome: 27 May 22:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 08:00: Platform Team | 28 May 19:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 23:00: Server Team | 29 May 03:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 15:00: Desktop Team [19:02] jenda, you can renew yourself, no need for approval :) [19:11] hi [19:13] hello [19:15] ke|p: ohh, here for membership? [19:15] yes [19:16] hola ke|p :) [19:16] hola pochu [19:16] :D [19:17] is there a list for people applying for membership anywhere? [19:17] pochu: sure [19:17] pochu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA [19:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA [19:17] ups [19:17] thanks :) [19:17] they were faster than me :) (I just had the time to start FF3) [19:17] hey stgraber! [19:18] hi pochu [19:18] enjoyed Prague ? [19:19] yeah, it was great :) [19:19] hi pochu :) [19:19] hamslaai, your wikipage is empty, please put some content on it [19:19] uh, ~ubuntu-membership-board-emea, what a weird name ;) [19:19] pochu, why? [19:19] any ideas when the next emea meeting will be held? === dfiloni_ is now known as devfil [19:19] @schedule [19:19] Syntux: Schedule for Etc/UTC: 27 May 20:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 06:00: Platform Team | 28 May 17:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 21:00: Server Team | 29 May 01:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 13:00: Desktop Team [19:19] afflux, in about 100 minutes [19:20] @now [19:20] Seveas: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 18:21:36 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 1 hour 38 minutes [19:20] oooo [19:20] Seveas: sorry, the one after that one ;) [19:20] scary [19:20] Seveas: because it's weird? :P I was hoping for ~ubuntu-europe or ~ubuntu-europe-council or similar... [19:20] pochu, it's more than europe, it's the emea region :) [19:20] pochu: we don't only cover europe so ... [19:20] (and why is middle-east here and not in the asia one?) [19:20] timezones [19:21] then ~ubuntu-emea-council maybe? :) [19:21] pochu, fairly standard in the business world: americas, emea, australasia [19:21] Myrtti: ah, makes sense [19:21] Seveas: oh, really? It's the first time I hear that :) But I'm not in the business world so... ;) [19:21] Myrtti, what's scary? [19:21] Seveas: that it's that little time anymore [19:21] @now [19:21] pochu: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 18:23:16 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 1 hour 36 minutes [19:21] pochu, hehe. I work for captain kirk :) [19:23] seveas i did i will check [19:23] Seveas: btw, do we have a secretary for tonight's meeting ? [19:24] stgraber, I'll volunteer [19:24] Seveas: thank you :) [19:24] have already read all the wikipages (except hamslaai's ;)) [19:24] Seveas: thanks, one problem solved :) [19:24] .oO ( no ideas on the meeting after today's? ) [19:24] Most candidates are really good. I have my doubts about a few === Syntux_ is now known as Syntux [19:24] Seveas, hopefully not doubting me :( [19:24] afflux, that will be decided today [19:25] Seveas: about jenda? [19:25] * pochu runs :) [19:25] haha [19:25] pochu, yes. He should be shot for even bothering us with it. Just hit the extend membership button dammit ;) [19:25] seveas: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HiltonGibson [19:25] hmm, once you ghost a nickname; nickserv shouldn't ask you to identify the same nickname again. [19:25] ah I see... sorry, just a bit curious because I sort of missed today's [19:25] hamslaai, ah, then please fix the agenda wikipage to point there [19:25] Seveas: heh, I guess he wants some meeting time... I'm waiting for expiration to come again ;) [19:26] awalton__, I don't see you on the agenda [19:26] jenda: I've heard you came to the hotel... too bad I didn't know you were there :( [19:26] seveas: ok i am used to mediawiki [19:26] Seveas: yep, same here ... some really good ones and some others that I'll really need to hear to get an opinion [19:26] Seveas, north america.. thought I added myself to the wiki last week [19:26] awalton__, ah, this is emea -- americas is later [19:26] @schedulw [19:26] @schedule [19:26] Seveas: Schedule for Etc/UTC: 27 May 20:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 06:00: Platform Team | 28 May 17:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 21:00: Server Team | 29 May 01:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 13:00: Desktop Team [19:27] americas is in 2 days [19:27] Seveas, doh! [19:27] * awalton__ can be a moron some days... [19:27] awalton__, :) [19:27] awalton__, so yeah, I'm having my doubts about you :-) [19:27] seveas: i remember now. the link is on my launchpad profile [19:27] Seveas, hehe, yeah me too now [19:29] awalton__, what's your wikipage [19:30] Seveas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Awalton. anything I can add there that might be helpful I'd like to know [19:31] awalton__, you're focusing on upstream achievements instead of ubuntu achievement [19:31] the councils are looking for (evidence of) a sustained and significant contribution to ubuntu. While upstream contributions are of course also ubuntu contributions, councils are looking for more direct contributions [19:32] just not sure really how to document my ubuntu work.. I've mostly just been triaging/forwarding bugs and helping in the forums.. [19:32] kudos on gvfs though :) [19:32] link to your forum profile, explain what you do there, get forum staff to vouch for you [19:33] and do the same for other bugteam members [19:33] you have 2 days :) [19:33] alright, thanks a bunch [19:37] seveas: agenda page link updated to point to wiki page for profile details. [19:38] hamslaai, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA still has the old link [19:39] eeep [19:39] hamslaai, and tbh, that page is really thin on info. I don't think you'll be accepted for membership like that. Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kelp for instance to see what a wikipage should look like (the way contributions are presented, not the actual contributions) [19:40] /me looks at Seveas (ö_ö) [19:41] :D [19:41] pliz [19:41] Myrtti, yours is better than hamslaai's but if I didn't know you I'd ask for more [19:42] /me goes to fiddle [19:42] Seveas: ke|p++ [19:42] Seveas: and my page? please :D [19:43] are you spreading blesses on wiki pages? [19:44] ? [19:44] lol [19:45] devfil, I don't like lists of packages on peoples pages. They often make contributions look very small. One or two extra vouches from existing MOTU would have been better. Also, a cheer from the italian newsletter team would be nice [19:45] Syntux, well, people are asking for comments and I'm giving them :) [19:45] Let it be clear that I'm *not* commenting on contributions, just on the pages [19:45] Seveas: ok [19:47] good wikipages make meetings go faster [19:47] Seveas: I should remove lists of packages? [19:47] I've seen several wikipages, that make me give an instant +1 [19:47] devfil, neh, leave them in there, but try to get those cheers [19:48] *sigh* [19:48] Myrtti, 'sup? [19:48] seveas: ok, try the links now. [19:48] Seveas: oh nothing, I guess [19:49] Seveas, thought you were giving Instruments of forgiveness. ;) [19:49] Syntux, neh, I've left the LART at work [19:49] Seveas: Salvatore is from Newsletter, it is editing is cheer. Now I'm looking for other MOTU and at 20 I will have some other sponsors from other italian group (I hope) [19:50] heh :-) [19:50] devfil, excellent :) [19:50] I honestly don't know what else to add. [19:50] :-< [19:51] I'll add a cheer [19:51] I'll go and whimper in my little corner with my guinea pig [19:51] Seveas, and mine? [19:51] Syntux, I always find it hard to judge people whose major contributions are advocacy [19:52] advocacy is very important but hard to measure [19:53] I agree, it's hard to measure it. [19:55] Syntux, with your wikipage as is (and with no further info), I'd say -1 to your application. I think having more testimonials is necessary if your main contribution is advocacy [19:55] I've seen you in the community for a long time, so I know a -1 isn't justified, but that wikipage does need a bit more info/testimonials imho [19:56] get testimonials from your locoteam members, link to your loco website/(forum?) [19:56] Seveas, I'm waiting for more people of that kind who can measure advocacy [19:57] Seveas, I didn't know I can get testimonials from loCo members, though it's exclusive to @ubuntu members so I didn't ask for any. [19:58] Syntux, neh, testimonials are just cheers from people who think you do good work. Testimonials from 'known' people will be valued higher by people who read them (at least that's what I do) but testimonials from others are good as well, especially if you're the first from your loco to become member [19:59] seveas: wiki updated, see references heading. [19:59] Seveas, I see, well if it didn't work today I will hunt for testimonials for sure [20:00] hamslaai, I'm afraid that reference means nothing to the council -- it doesn't mention any ubuntu contributions [20:01] Seveas, from philosophical point of view; it's hard to measure technical efforts too; one of the main factor to consider is the time given and efforts regardless of the type of contribution. [20:01] seveas: ok, no train smash, will keep on trucking. cheers [20:01] Syntux, very true, see also my comment about lists of packages I gave earlier [20:02] Syntux, that's why I personally always focus on testimonials from others. Thinks like karma, forum stats etc... are a nice check but testimonials from people I know usually weigh heavier [20:03] of course if I know a candidate (like Myrtti or Pici) I don't need references :) [20:03] ♥ [20:04] Myrtti, that doesn't mean I'll vote +1 :p [20:04] :-P [20:04] heh [20:04] Is that a heart? [20:04] no lollipops for you then, Seveas :-P [20:04] Myrtti, bribing me is a tad more expensive than that :p [20:04] Icecream! [20:04] By the way, who can vote ? only the council or any ubuntu member. [20:04] the emea council only [20:05] chocolate-chocolate chip or something more fancypancy? [20:05] cookie dough! [20:05] uuu [20:06] @now [20:06] Styx`: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 19:07:50 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 52 minutes [20:06] oh dear *shivers* [20:07] Myrtti, you're way down in the list. *if* we reach that part of the list it'll be almost two hours after the start :) [20:08] Myrtti, really that nervous? you can always try again :) [20:08] /me bought fair trade instant coffee today [20:08] There is $500 re-take policy [20:08] I've also got a kilo jar full of candies [20:09] on some exams :-) [20:12] exams schmexams [20:12] this 'exam' isn't what you know, it's about what you have done [20:12] so whether you pass or fail is already known :) [20:12] "I've annoyed Seveas" [20:12] /me runs [20:12] Myrtti, that's instant membership :) [20:17] * stgraber wonders how many candidate we'll be able to hear during the 1h30 we have for the meeting [20:17] if we do one every 5 minutes, we can do 18 [20:17] and I don't see us doing one every 5 minutes :) [20:17] hmmkay, a cheers section. if mvo, tjaalton or someone else I met at UDS or otherwise knows me, please add your cheers to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimoJyrinki [20:17] me neither [20:18] (if someone is awake, that is) [20:18] yeah 3 are plenty [20:18] :P [20:18] ogra, for some people yes, some wikipages are good enough [20:19] Myrtti: can we cheer each other?-) no? [20:19] Mirv, why not? [20:19] yeah that exposes good team spirit :) [20:20] do we only have 90 minutes? [20:20] that's what's on the fridge at least [20:20] and I won't be able to stay much longer anyway [20:20] @schedule Amman [20:20] Syntux: Schedule for Asia/Amman: 27 May 23:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 09:00: Platform Team | 28 May 20:00: Launchpad users meeting | 29 May 00:00: Server Team | 29 May 04:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 16:00: Desktop Team [20:20] Mirv: I gave jussi01 and Tm_T a permission to kick me in the leg if I even whince when you're up :-D [20:20] we'll need to rush then. I do like the idea of having a 5-minute timelimit though :) [20:21] but if it's ok... [20:22] since _Seveas_ said it's ok... [20:23] Seveas: would be fun (the 5-minute timelimit) but probably not fair for non-native (or like-native) speakers :) [20:23] Mirv: shame on you for having such a fancypancy wikipage [20:23] stgraber, true [20:23] Myrtti, well Mirv is obviously way better than you [20:25] Myrtti: hehe. I tried to figure out what I've actually been doing and summarize it. [20:25] Seveas: I know [20:25] Seveas: he should [20:25] /me curtzies [20:27] do signatures work like they do in MediaWiki? [20:27] I've been on wikivacation for such a long time I didn't even remember how bold was done [20:28] @now [20:28] evalles_: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 19:29:34 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 30 minutes [20:28] had to cheat and look from the Formatting guide [20:29] Myrtti, I think ["nick"] is enought [20:29] oh doodles. [20:29] ok [20:31] hm, my virtual server's time must be wrong... [20:32] oh, right. seconds... === dfiloni_ is now known as devfil [20:43] hi effie_jayx :D [20:44] hi totopalma [20:44] quadrispro, hi :) [20:44] hi totopalma, quadrispro :) [20:44] totopalma: hw r u? [20:45] hi devfil :D [20:45] devfil, olà [20:45] quadrispro, bho [20:45] ke|p: natacha? [20:45] totopalma: ... [20:46] :D [20:46] yeahh [20:46] hi RicardoPerez [20:46] hi all [20:46] ke|p: hi! [20:46] :) [20:47] devfil: are you improved with hold'em? [20:48] hi all [20:48] hullo [20:48] devfil: ti ho chiesto se sei migliorato a poker... [20:48] hi mantiena [20:48] mah! [20:48] Hi all! The EMEA regional membership board meeting will start soon. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself to paste when it's your turn. [20:48] ok [20:49] quadrispro: lol NO, [20:49] totopalma, are yuo able to play hold'em? === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 28 May 06:00 UTC: Platform Team | 28 May 17:00 UTC: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 21:00 UTC: Server Team | 29 May 01:00 UTC: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team [20:49] /me considers starting an editor war to keep the anxiety at bay [20:49] :-> [20:49] Myrtti, vimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvim [20:49] Seveas: could I just paste some text from my wiki ?;) [20:49] mantiena, if it's a nice intro, sure [20:50] Seveas: only if you promise to teach me vim while sitting next to me ;-) otherwise emacs. [20:50] :-> [20:50] only 3 lines? haha [20:50] Myrtti, sure :) [20:51] wow, itsa Seveas [20:51] Myrtti, come to Amsterdam and I'll happily teach you vim [20:51] hi Gwaihir [20:52] hello quadrispro [20:52] Gwaihir: hw r u this evening? [20:52] /me considers to whine to Mirv about "can I go see Seveas in Amsterdam" but then realizes this isn't the right place or time [20:52] hello Gwaihir [20:52] Seveas: how are you doing? [20:53] popey, stgraber, phanatic, PriceChild: here? [20:53] I'm here [20:53] yep [20:53] yep [20:53] Matt is matthelmke on irc, right? [20:53] Few more expected no? [20:53] nope [20:53] ah [20:54] moo [20:54] forumsmatthew i think [20:54] launchpad agrees [20:55] btw the cc will do the launchpad additions after our little report to them [20:55] PriceChild, ah, we don't do that ourselves? [20:56] sabdfl said that will be delegated to us in a little [20:56] hi forumsmatthew [20:56] 3 lines ie. 240 chars, ok. [20:56] hello [20:56] did I make it on time? [20:56] yes [20:56] woo hoo! [20:56] # [20:56] Report successful membership candidates to the UbuntuWeeklyNews and add a short summary for each member (which should be taken from the candidate's personal wikipage). [20:56] I thought I would check it with them just in case [20:56] # [20:56] Between May and July 2008, board secretaries are also responsible for reporting approved candidates to the CommunityCouncil, to evaluate the approval system. [20:57] what stgraber said... 8-) [20:57] PriceChild: so according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards, the secretary is supposed to approve on LP + report to the CC [20:58] Hi all! The EMEA regional membership board meeting will start soon. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself to paste when it's your turn. [20:58] devfil: are you ready? [20:59] 6/7 of the board is here. Did mark say he couldn't make it? [20:59] stgraber: I tried to get in touch with the cc, making sure they were aware of the meeting so that they could attend if needed, and sabdfl said what I've said above today. [20:59] He sent me a mail saying he might be able to catch the end iirc. [21:00] @now [21:00] Seveas: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 20:01:48 - Current meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board [21:00] shall we start? [21:00] yep [21:00] PriceChild: ok, wiki should be updated then ... === fdd-0 is now known as fdd [21:00] * PriceChild thinks Seveas is volunteering for secretary this week [21:00] PriceChild, yup [21:00] Wow that was easy :D [21:00] ready here to start [21:01] Thanks, Seveas [21:01] Hi all! Welcome to the EMEA regional membership board meeting. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself. [21:01] We will try and process as many applications as we can, but we cannot guarantee that we will porcess all candidates. I will call your nickname when it's your turn. [21:01] Good luck all member candidates, nand: you're up first! [21:01] hi! [21:01] Ok, here is my small presentation: [21:01] My name is Nicolas Deschildre, I'm 22, and I'm finishing my computer studies by working in a small Linux company [21:01] making simplified computers for elderly people. Oh, and I also happen to be an Ubuntu fan! [21:01] So far, my contributions have been a package uploaded to Universe and the implementation of Ubuntu Brainstorm [21:01] (with the great help of stgraber for testing, administrating, sysadmin-pinging,...). [21:01] My plans for the future are mainly around Brainstorm: while some points are quite good, Brainstorm still need some work on several areas. [21:01] That's the shorter I could do :) [21:01] how did the brainstorm sessions at UDS go? [21:02] I was only at the one during FOSScamp [21:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NicolasDeschildre [21:02] what's the opinion of Ubuntu developers on Brainstorm? [21:03] 'firehose' or 'source of terrific ideas' or somewhere in between? [21:03] well, they basically want some triaging :) [21:03] can't say that's unnecessary :) [21:03] at the moment, it is not easy to cherry pick the really good ones [21:03] I still have to throw up the brainstorm gobby notes someplace [21:04] and also there will be some work necessary so that upstream people can easily access their ideas [21:04] jcastro: from UDS or FOSSCamp ? [21:04] since 90% of ideas concerns directly upstream! [21:05] nand, that's a useful statistic by itself [21:05] Seveas: That's just a rough estimate [21:05] but a good majority do concerns upstream [21:05] I'm leaning towards a +1. Anyone want to convince me otherwise? [21:06] nand: where do you see the brainstorm in 6 months time? [21:06] +1 from me as well. great job done with brainstorm. [21:06] stgraber: from both actually, the uds sessions were just a repeat of what we discussed basically. [21:06] I see a lot of positives and nothing negative to comment on... I"m +1 [21:06] Ciao / Hi all! [21:06] +1 from me too [21:06] jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/FossCamp/Brainstorm (That's FOSSCamp) [21:07] Forgive my ignorance, and IE isn't rendering the Fridge at work. What are we voting on? Briefly, I understand you are in a meeting. [21:07] for the good work nand has done getting the community involved in brainstorm, +1 from me [21:07] PriceChild: in 6 months, there will be some more features to categorize ideas (by project, tags), and a project-neutral release [21:07] lukehasnoname: member applications [21:07] lukehasnoname: people becoming ubuntu members. It is only members of the board that vote [21:07] cool, that last bit sounds fun :P [21:07] For the EMEA region? [21:07] PriceChild, +1/0/-1? [21:07] lukehasnoname, yes [21:07] Sounds good to me, +1. [21:07] 10-4, back to observation [21:08] That's 6 +'es, congratulations! [21:08] great \o/ [21:08] corenominal, you're up! [21:08] well done nand [21:08] Hello everyone :) Sorry for the waffle, here goes... [21:08] Hello everyone :) My name is Philip Newborough: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhilipNewborough I am 33 years old and I live in Lincoln, United Kingdom. I am now a member of the Ubuntu UK LoCo team. I started writing about my Ubuntu related activities on my blog http://crunchbang.org and I have been actively promoting the use of Ubuntu via online marketing campaigns, "A Merry Ubuntu Christmas" http://tinyurl.com/5pf2yg & "Random Ubuntu Advocacy" h [21:08] ttp://tinyurl.com/2m8o2h [21:08] I have also released a remastered version of Ubuntu named CrunchBang Linux http://crunchbang.org/projects/linux/ The distribution is based around the Openbox window manager and ROX file manager. I hope that by releasing the distro I have encouraged more people to experiment with Ubuntu and alternative software available in the Ubuntu repositories... [21:08] I believe I have much to offer the Ubuntu community. I think my biggest opportunity lies in online marketing and promotion. I have several projects which I would like to begin and I think that becoming an Ubuntu member would enable me maximise my contributions by providing a launchpad for future marketing/promotion efforts. [21:08] (If I appear to be rushing: I am, we have lots of candidates :)) [21:08] :D [21:09] i am aware of Phils work, so he gets a +1 from me [21:09] thanks popey :) [21:09] I've been reading about CrunchBang... I'm +1 [21:09] Where do I know crunchbang from? [21:10] PriceChild: syndicated on planet ubuntu-uk [21:10] Most of the wikipage is about crunchbang and ppa, not about contribs to ubuntu -- or am I reading it wrong? [21:10] PriceChild, perhaps from the beginning of all shell scripts? [21:11] Seveas, you're reading it wrong :P [21:11] #!/bin/bash [21:11] corenominal, then explain :) [21:12] sure, might help if you could ask questions, but hey, maybe you are right, I guess it depends on what/how you evaluate contributions [21:13] Most of your launchpad karma comes from answers? How're all the bugsquad/universe contributors things going? :) [21:13] corenominal, are the things you've put in your PPA integrated with Ubuntu or are there plans to do so? [21:14] yes, I've just recently been working with a Debian developer to move some of my package from PPA directly to Debian [21:14] and from Debian to Ubuntu [21:14] and are you planning to make crunchbang an official ubuntu derivative like xubuntu? [21:14] kudos for taking the debian route! [21:15] well, I'm currently working towards building meta packages for CrunchBang [21:15] but.. [21:15] as for official, I can't really say, something I'd need to look into [21:15] but it would be nice [21:16] sounds good [21:16] +1 from me [21:16] stgraber, phanatic PriceChild ? [21:16] it has had lots of good feedback, so I guess there is a need somewhere [21:16] corenominal, I'm definitely going to try it -- a nice working openbox environment would be nice to have [21:17] +1 for packaging and all the distro work [21:17] good luck :D take heed of the disclaimer ;) [21:17] heh [21:17] corenominal, scratch hardware needs no disclaimer [21:17] i'm convinced. +1 (and +0.5 for taking the debian route :)) [21:17] good thing about working where I do: an abundance of spare laptops [21:17]