[04:45] <xhhux> hello
[05:36] <xhhux> hello is anyone here?
[05:37] <Hobbsee> no
[05:37] <xhhux> LIAR!
[14:45] <Syntux> @schedule
[15:19] <leoquant> @schedule amsterdam
[16:37] <Styx`> @schedule vilnius
[16:40] <zul> @schedule montreal
[16:57] <RoAkSoAx> @schedule lima
[17:09] <Syntux> @schedule Amman
[17:10] <RoAkSoAx> Syntux, you'll have to wait few more hours, be patience :P
[17:13] <Myrtti> ♥ christel
[17:37] <dfiloni> @schedule rome
[19:02] <Seveas> jenda, you can renew yourself, no need for approval :)
[19:11] <ke|p> hi
[19:13] <Myrtti> hello
[19:15] <jpds> ke|p: ohh, here for membership?
[19:15] <ke|p> yes
[19:16] <pochu> hola ke|p :)
[19:16] <ke|p> hola pochu
[19:16] <ke|p> :D
[19:17] <pochu> is there a list for people applying for membership anywhere?
[19:17] <stgraber> pochu: sure
[19:17] <jpds> pochu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
[19:17] <ke|p> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
[19:17] <ke|p> ups
[19:17] <pochu> thanks :)
[19:17] <stgraber> they were faster than me :) (I just had the time to start FF3)
[19:17] <pochu> hey stgraber!
[19:18] <stgraber> hi pochu
[19:18] <stgraber> enjoyed Prague ?
[19:19] <pochu> yeah, it was great :)
[19:19] <dfiloni_> hi pochu :)
[19:19] <Seveas> hamslaai, your wikipage is empty, please put some content on it
[19:19] <pochu> uh, ~ubuntu-membership-board-emea, what a weird name ;)
[19:19] <Seveas> pochu, why?
[19:19] <afflux> any ideas when the next emea meeting will be held?
[19:19] <Syntux> @schedule
[19:19] <Seveas> afflux, in about 100 minutes
[19:20] <Seveas> @now
[19:20] <Myrtti> oooo
[19:20] <afflux> Seveas: sorry, the one after that one ;)
[19:20] <Myrtti> scary
[19:20] <pochu> Seveas: because it's weird? :P I was hoping for ~ubuntu-europe or ~ubuntu-europe-council or similar...
[19:20] <Seveas> pochu, it's more than europe, it's the emea region :)
[19:20] <stgraber> pochu: we don't only cover europe so ...
[19:20] <pochu> (and why is middle-east here and not in the asia one?)
[19:20] <Myrtti> timezones
[19:21] <pochu> then ~ubuntu-emea-council maybe? :)
[19:21] <Seveas> pochu, fairly standard in the business world: americas, emea, australasia
[19:21] <pochu> Myrtti: ah, makes sense
[19:21] <pochu> Seveas: oh, really? It's the first time I hear that :) But I'm not in the business world so... ;)
[19:21] <Seveas> Myrtti, what's scary?
[19:21] <Myrtti> Seveas: that it's that little time anymore
[19:21] <pochu> @now
[19:21] <Seveas> pochu, hehe. I work for captain kirk :)
[19:23] <hamslaai> seveas i did i will check
[19:23] <stgraber> Seveas: btw, do we have a secretary for tonight's meeting ?
[19:24] <Seveas> stgraber, I'll volunteer
[19:24] <phanatic> Seveas: thank you :)
[19:24] <Seveas> have already read all the wikipages (except hamslaai's ;))
[19:24] <stgraber> Seveas: thanks, one problem solved :)
[19:24] <afflux> .oO ( no ideas on the meeting after today's? )
[19:24] <Seveas> Most candidates are really good. I have my doubts about a few
[19:24] <awalton__> Seveas, hopefully not doubting me :(
[19:24] <Seveas> afflux, that will be decided today
[19:25] <pochu> Seveas: about jenda?
[19:25]  * pochu runs :)
[19:25] <ke|p> haha
[19:25] <Seveas> pochu, yes. He should be shot for even bothering us with it. Just hit the extend membership button dammit ;)
[19:25] <hamslaai> seveas: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HiltonGibson
[19:25] <Syntux> hmm, once you ghost a nickname; nickserv shouldn't ask you to identify the same nickname again.
[19:25] <afflux> ah I see... sorry, just a bit curious because I sort of missed today's
[19:25] <Seveas> hamslaai, ah, then please fix the agenda wikipage to point there
[19:25] <pochu> Seveas: heh, I guess he wants some meeting time... I'm waiting for expiration to come again ;)
[19:26] <Seveas> awalton__, I don't see you on the agenda
[19:26] <pochu> jenda: I've heard you came to the hotel... too bad I didn't know you were there :(
[19:26] <hamslaai> seveas: ok i am used to mediawiki
[19:26] <stgraber> Seveas: yep, same here ... some really good ones and some others that I'll really need to hear to get an opinion
[19:26] <awalton__> Seveas, north america.. thought I added myself to the wiki last week
[19:26] <Seveas> awalton__, ah, this is emea -- americas is later
[19:26] <Seveas> @schedulw
[19:26] <Seveas> @schedule
[19:27] <Seveas> americas is in 2 days
[19:27] <awalton__> Seveas, doh!
[19:27]  * awalton__ can be a moron some days...
[19:27] <Seveas> awalton__, :)
[19:27] <Seveas> awalton__, so yeah, I'm having my doubts about you :-)
[19:27] <hamslaai> seveas: i remember now. the link is on my launchpad profile
[19:27] <awalton__> Seveas, hehe, yeah me too now
[19:29] <Seveas> awalton__, what's your wikipage
[19:30] <awalton__> Seveas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Awalton. anything I can add there that might be helpful I'd like to know
[19:31] <Seveas> awalton__, you're focusing on upstream achievements instead of ubuntu achievement
[19:31] <Seveas> the councils are looking for (evidence of) a sustained and significant contribution to ubuntu. While upstream contributions are of course also ubuntu contributions, councils are looking for more direct contributions
[19:32] <awalton__> just not sure really how to document my ubuntu work.. I've mostly just been triaging/forwarding bugs and helping in the forums..
[19:32] <Seveas> kudos on gvfs though :)
[19:32] <Seveas> link to your forum profile, explain what you do there, get forum staff to vouch for you
[19:33] <Seveas> and do the same for other bugteam members
[19:33] <Seveas> you have 2 days :)
[19:33] <awalton__> alright, thanks a bunch
[19:37] <hamslaai> seveas: agenda page link updated to point to wiki page for profile details.
[19:38] <Seveas> hamslaai, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA still has the old link
[19:39] <Myrtti> eeep
[19:39] <Seveas> hamslaai, and tbh, that page is really thin on info. I don't think you'll be accepted for membership like that. Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kelp for instance to see what a wikipage should look like (the way contributions are presented, not the actual contributions)
[19:40] <Myrtti> /me looks at Seveas (ö_ö)
[19:41] <ke|p> :D
[19:41] <Myrtti> pliz
[19:41] <Seveas> Myrtti, yours is better than hamslaai's but if I didn't know you I'd ask for more
[19:42] <Myrtti> /me goes to fiddle
[19:42] <jpds> Seveas: ke|p++
[19:42] <devfil> Seveas: and my page? please :D
[19:43] <Syntux> are you spreading blesses on wiki pages?
[19:44] <devfil> ?
[19:44] <devfil> lol
[19:45] <Seveas> devfil, I don't like lists of packages on peoples pages. They often make contributions look very small. One or two extra vouches from existing MOTU would have been better. Also, a cheer from the italian newsletter team would be nice
[19:45] <Seveas> Syntux, well, people are asking for comments and I'm giving them :)
[19:45] <Seveas> Let it be clear that I'm *not* commenting on contributions, just on the pages
[19:45] <devfil> Seveas: ok
[19:47] <Seveas> good wikipages make meetings go faster
[19:47] <devfil> Seveas: I should remove lists of packages?
[19:47] <Seveas> I've seen several wikipages, that make me give an instant +1
[19:47] <Seveas> devfil, neh, leave them in there, but try to get those cheers
[19:48] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[19:48] <Seveas> Myrtti, 'sup?
[19:48] <hamslaai> seveas: ok, try the links now.
[19:48] <Myrtti> Seveas: oh nothing, I guess
[19:49] <Syntux> Seveas, thought you were giving Instruments of forgiveness. ;)
[19:49] <Seveas> Syntux, neh, I've left the LART at work
[19:49] <devfil> Seveas: Salvatore is from Newsletter, it is editing is cheer. Now I'm looking for other MOTU and at 20 I will have some other sponsors from other italian group (I hope)
[19:50] <Syntux> heh :-)
[19:50] <Seveas> devfil, excellent :)
[19:50] <Myrtti> I honestly don't know what else to add.
[19:50] <Myrtti> :-<
[19:51] <Seveas> I'll add a cheer
[19:51] <Myrtti> I'll go and whimper in my little corner with my guinea pig
[19:51] <Syntux> Seveas, and mine?
[19:51] <Seveas> Syntux, I always find it hard to judge people whose major contributions are advocacy
[19:52] <Seveas> advocacy is very important but hard to measure
[19:53] <Syntux> I agree, it's hard to measure it.
[19:55] <Seveas> Syntux, with your wikipage as is (and with no further info), I'd say -1 to your application. I think having more testimonials is necessary if your main contribution is advocacy
[19:55] <Seveas> I've seen you in the community for a long time, so I know a -1 isn't justified, but that wikipage does need a bit more info/testimonials imho
[19:56] <Seveas> get testimonials from your locoteam members, link to your loco website/(forum?)
[19:56] <Syntux> Seveas, I'm waiting for more people of that kind who can measure advocacy
[19:57] <Syntux> Seveas, I didn't know I can get testimonials from loCo members, though it's exclusive to @ubuntu members so I didn't ask for any.
[19:58] <Seveas> Syntux, neh, testimonials are just cheers from people who think you do good work. Testimonials from 'known' people will be valued higher by people who read them (at least that's what I do) but testimonials from others are good as well, especially if you're the first from your loco to become member
[19:59] <hamslaai> seveas: wiki updated, see references heading.
[19:59] <Syntux> Seveas, I see, well if it didn't work today I will hunt for testimonials for sure
[20:00] <Seveas> hamslaai, I'm afraid that reference means nothing to the council -- it doesn't mention any ubuntu contributions
[20:01] <Syntux> Seveas, from philosophical point of view; it's hard to measure technical efforts too; one of the main factor to consider is the time given and efforts regardless of the type of contribution.
[20:01] <hamslaai> seveas: ok, no train smash, will keep on trucking. cheers
[20:01] <Seveas> Syntux, very true, see also my comment about lists of packages I gave earlier
[20:02] <Seveas> Syntux, that's why I personally always focus on testimonials from others. Thinks like karma, forum stats etc... are a nice check but testimonials from people I know usually weigh heavier
[20:03] <Seveas> of course if I know a candidate (like Myrtti or Pici) I don't need references :)
[20:03] <Myrtti> ♥
[20:04] <Seveas> Myrtti, that doesn't mean I'll vote +1 :p
[20:04] <Myrtti> :-P
[20:04] <Syntux> heh
[20:04] <Iulian> Is that a heart?
[20:04] <Myrtti> no lollipops for you then, Seveas :-P
[20:04] <Seveas> Myrtti, bribing me is a tad more expensive than that :p
[20:04] <Seveas> Icecream!
[20:04] <Syntux> By the way, who can vote ? only the council or any ubuntu member.
[20:04] <Seveas> the emea council only
[20:05] <Myrtti> chocolate-chocolate chip or something more fancypancy?
[20:05] <Seveas> cookie dough!
[20:05] <Myrtti> uuu
[20:06] <Styx`> @now
[20:06] <Myrtti> oh dear *shivers*
[20:07] <Seveas> Myrtti, you're way down in the list. *if* we reach that part of the list it'll be almost two hours after the start :)
[20:08] <awalton__> Myrtti, really that nervous? you can always try again :)
[20:08] <Myrtti> /me bought fair trade instant coffee today
[20:08] <Syntux> There is $500 re-take policy
[20:08] <Myrtti> I've also got a kilo jar full of candies
[20:09] <Syntux> on some exams :-)
[20:12] <Seveas> exams schmexams
[20:12] <Seveas> this 'exam' isn't what you know, it's about what you have done
[20:12] <Seveas> so whether you pass or fail is already known :)
[20:12] <Myrtti> "I've annoyed Seveas"
[20:12] <Myrtti> /me runs
[20:12] <Seveas> Myrtti, that's instant membership :)
[20:17]  * stgraber wonders how many candidate we'll be able to hear during the 1h30 we have for the meeting
[20:17] <Seveas> if we do one every 5 minutes, we can do 18
[20:17] <Seveas> and I don't see us doing one every 5 minutes :)
[20:17] <Mirv> hmmkay, a cheers section. if mvo, tjaalton or someone else I met at UDS or otherwise knows me, please add your cheers to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimoJyrinki
[20:17] <stgraber> me neither
[20:18] <Mirv> (if someone is awake, that is)
[20:18] <ogra> yeah 3 are plenty
[20:18] <ogra> :P
[20:18] <Seveas> ogra, for some people yes, some wikipages are good enough
[20:19] <Mirv> Myrtti: can we cheer each other?-) no?
[20:19] <Seveas> Mirv, why not?
[20:19] <ogra> yeah that exposes good team spirit :)
[20:20] <Seveas> do we only have 90 minutes?
[20:20] <stgraber> that's what's on the fridge at least
[20:20] <stgraber> and I won't be able to stay much longer anyway
[20:20] <Syntux> @schedule Amman
[20:20] <Myrtti> Mirv: I gave jussi01 and Tm_T a permission to kick me in the leg if I even whince when you're up :-D
[20:20] <Seveas> we'll need to rush then. I do like the idea of having a 5-minute timelimit though :)
[20:21] <Myrtti> but if it's ok...
[20:22] <Myrtti> since _Seveas_ said it's ok...
[20:23] <stgraber> Seveas: would be fun (the 5-minute timelimit) but probably not fair for non-native (or like-native) speakers :)
[20:23] <Myrtti> Mirv: shame on you for having such a fancypancy wikipage
[20:23] <Seveas> stgraber, true
[20:23] <Seveas> Myrtti, well Mirv is obviously way better than you
[20:25] <Mirv> Myrtti: hehe. I tried to figure out what I've actually been doing and summarize it.
[20:25] <Myrtti> Seveas: I know
[20:25] <Myrtti> Seveas: he should
[20:25] <Myrtti> /me curtzies
[20:27] <Myrtti> do signatures work like they do in MediaWiki?
[20:27] <Myrtti> I've been on wikivacation for such a long time I didn't even remember how bold was done
[20:28] <evalles_> @now
[20:28] <Myrtti> had to cheat and look from the Formatting guide
[20:29] <ke|p> Myrtti, I think ["nick"] is enought
[20:29] <Myrtti> oh doodles.
[20:29] <Myrtti> ok
[20:31] <Myrtti> hm, my virtual server's time must be wrong...
[20:32] <Myrtti> oh, right. seconds...
[20:43] <ke|p> hi effie_jayx :D
[20:44] <quadrispro> hi totopalma
[20:44] <totopalma> quadrispro, hi :)
[20:44] <devfil> hi totopalma, quadrispro :)
[20:44] <quadrispro> totopalma: hw r u?
[20:45] <quadrispro> hi devfil :D
[20:45] <totopalma> devfil, olà
[20:45] <totopalma> quadrispro, bho
[20:45] <RicardoPerez> ke|p: natacha?
[20:45] <quadrispro> totopalma: ...
[20:46] <totopalma> :D
[20:46] <ke|p> yeahh
[20:46] <ke|p> hi RicardoPerez
[20:46] <quadrispro> hi all
[20:46] <RicardoPerez> ke|p: hi!
[20:46] <ke|p> :)
[20:47] <quadrispro> devfil: are you improved with hold'em?
[20:48] <mantiena> hi all
[20:48] <Myrtti> hullo
[20:48] <quadrispro> devfil: ti ho chiesto se sei migliorato a poker...
[20:48] <Seveas> hi mantiena
[20:48] <quadrispro> mah!
[20:48] <Seveas> Hi all! The EMEA regional membership board meeting will start soon. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself to paste when it's your turn.
[20:48] <mantiena> ok
[20:49] <devfil> quadrispro: lol NO,
[20:49] <quadrispro> totopalma, are yuo able to play hold'em?
[20:49] <Myrtti> /me considers starting an editor war to keep the anxiety at bay
[20:49] <Myrtti> :->
[20:49] <Seveas> Myrtti, vimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvim
[20:49] <mantiena> Seveas: could I just paste some text from my wiki ?;)
[20:49] <Seveas> mantiena, if it's a nice intro, sure
[20:50] <Myrtti> Seveas: only if you promise to teach me vim while sitting next to me ;-) otherwise emacs.
[20:50] <Myrtti> :->
[20:50] <ke|p> only 3 lines? haha
[20:50] <Seveas> Myrtti, sure :)
[20:51] <Seeker`> wow, itsa Seveas
[20:51] <Seveas> Myrtti, come to Amsterdam and I'll happily teach you vim
[20:51] <quadrispro> hi Gwaihir
[20:52] <Gwaihir> hello quadrispro
[20:52] <quadrispro> Gwaihir: hw r u this evening?
[20:52] <Myrtti> /me considers to whine to Mirv about "can I go see Seveas in Amsterdam" but then realizes this isn't the right place or time
[20:52] <devfil> hello Gwaihir
[20:52] <Seeker`> Seveas: how are you doing?
[20:53] <Seveas> popey, stgraber, phanatic, PriceChild: here?
[20:53] <PriceChild> I'm here
[20:53] <stgraber> yep
[20:53] <phanatic> yep
[20:53] <Seveas> Matt is matthelmke on irc, right?
[20:53] <PriceChild> Few more expected no?
[20:53] <PriceChild> nope
[20:53] <Seveas> ah
[20:54] <popey> moo
[20:54] <PriceChild> forumsmatthew i think
[20:54] <Seveas> launchpad agrees
[20:55] <PriceChild> btw the cc will do the launchpad additions after our little report to them
[20:55] <Seveas> PriceChild, ah, we don't do that ourselves?
[20:56] <PriceChild> sabdfl said that will be delegated to us in a little
[20:56] <Seveas> hi forumsmatthew
[20:56] <Mirv> 3 lines ie. 240 chars, ok.
[20:56] <forumsmatthew> hello
[20:56] <forumsmatthew> did I make it on time?
[20:56] <popey> yes
[20:56] <forumsmatthew> woo hoo!
[20:56] <stgraber> #
[20:56] <stgraber> Report successful membership candidates to the UbuntuWeeklyNews and add a short summary for each member (which should be taken from the candidate's personal wikipage).
[20:56] <PriceChild> I thought I would check it with them just in case
[20:56] <stgraber> #
[20:56] <stgraber> Between May and July 2008, board secretaries are also responsible for reporting approved candidates to the CommunityCouncil, to evaluate the approval system.
[20:57] <PriceChild> what stgraber said... 8-)
[20:57] <stgraber> PriceChild: so according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards, the secretary is supposed to approve on LP + report to the CC
[20:58] <Seveas> Hi all! The EMEA regional membership board meeting will start soon. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself to paste when it's your turn.
[20:58] <quadrispro> devfil: are you ready?
[20:59] <Seveas> 6/7 of the board is here. Did mark say he couldn't make it?
[20:59] <PriceChild> stgraber: I tried to get in touch with the cc, making sure they were aware of the meeting so that they could attend if needed, and sabdfl said what I've said above today.
[20:59] <PriceChild> He sent me a mail saying he might be able to catch the end iirc.
[21:00] <Seveas> @now
[21:00] <Seveas> shall we start?
[21:00] <jussi01> yep
[21:00] <stgraber> PriceChild: ok, wiki should be updated then ...
[21:00]  * PriceChild thinks Seveas is volunteering for secretary this week
[21:00] <Seveas> PriceChild, yup
[21:00] <PriceChild> Wow that was easy :D
[21:00] <forumsmatthew> ready here to start
[21:01] <forumsmatthew> Thanks, Seveas
[21:01] <Seveas> Hi all! Welcome to the EMEA regional membership board meeting. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself.
[21:01] <Seveas> We will try and process as many applications as we can, but we cannot guarantee that we will porcess all candidates. I will call your nickname when it's your turn.
[21:01] <Seveas> Good luck all member candidates, nand: you're up first!
[21:01] <nand> hi!
[21:01] <nand> Ok, here is my small presentation:
[21:01] <nand> My name is Nicolas Deschildre, I'm 22, and I'm finishing my computer studies by working in a small Linux company
[21:01] <nand> making simplified computers for elderly people. Oh, and I also happen to be an Ubuntu fan!
[21:01] <nand> So far, my contributions have been a package uploaded to Universe and the implementation of Ubuntu Brainstorm
[21:01] <nand> (with the great help of stgraber for testing, administrating, sysadmin-pinging,...).
[21:01] <nand> My plans for the future are mainly around Brainstorm: while some points are quite good, Brainstorm still need some work on several areas.
[21:01] <nand> That's the shorter I could do :)
[21:01] <Seveas> how did the brainstorm sessions at UDS go?
[21:02] <nand> I was only at the one during FOSScamp
[21:02] <stgraber> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NicolasDeschildre
[21:02] <Seveas> what's the opinion of Ubuntu developers on Brainstorm?
[21:03] <Seveas> 'firehose' or 'source of terrific ideas' or somewhere in between?
[21:03] <nand> well, they basically want some triaging :)
[21:03] <Seveas> can't say that's unnecessary :)
[21:03] <nand> at the moment, it is not easy to cherry pick the really good ones
[21:03] <jcastro> I still have to throw up the brainstorm gobby notes someplace
[21:04] <nand> and also there will be some work necessary so that upstream people can easily access their ideas
[21:04] <stgraber> jcastro: from UDS or FOSSCamp ?
[21:04] <nand> since 90% of ideas concerns directly upstream!
[21:05] <Seveas> nand, that's a useful statistic by itself
[21:05] <nand> Seveas: That's just a rough estimate
[21:05] <nand> but a good majority do concerns upstream
[21:05] <Seveas> I'm leaning towards a +1. Anyone want to convince me otherwise?
[21:06] <PriceChild> nand: where do you see the brainstorm in 6 months time?
[21:06] <phanatic> +1 from me as well. great job done with brainstorm.
[21:06] <jcastro> stgraber: from both actually, the uds sessions were just a repeat of what we discussed basically.
[21:06] <forumsmatthew> I see a lot of positives and nothing negative to comment on... I"m +1
[21:06] <l3on> Ciao / Hi all!
[21:06] <stgraber> +1 from me too
[21:06] <stgraber> jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/FossCamp/Brainstorm (That's FOSSCamp)
[21:07] <lukehasnoname> Forgive my ignorance, and IE isn't rendering the Fridge at work. What are we voting on? Briefly, I understand you are in a meeting.
[21:07] <popey> for the good work nand has done getting the community involved in brainstorm, +1 from me
[21:07] <nand> PriceChild: in 6 months, there will be some more features to categorize ideas (by project, tags), and a project-neutral release
[21:07] <popey> lukehasnoname: member applications
[21:07] <Seeker`> lukehasnoname: people becoming ubuntu members. It is only members of the board that vote
[21:07] <PriceChild> cool, that last bit sounds fun :P
[21:07] <lukehasnoname> For the EMEA region?
[21:07] <Seveas> PriceChild, +1/0/-1?
[21:07] <Seveas> lukehasnoname, yes
[21:07] <PriceChild> Sounds good to me, +1.
[21:07] <lukehasnoname> 10-4, back to observation
[21:08] <Seveas> That's 6 +'es, congratulations!
[21:08] <nand> great \o/
[21:08] <Seveas> corenominal, you're up!
[21:08] <popey> well done nand
[21:08] <corenominal> Hello everyone :) Sorry for the waffle, here goes...
[21:08] <corenominal> Hello everyone :) My name is Philip Newborough: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhilipNewborough  I am 33 years old and I live in Lincoln, United Kingdom. I am now a member of the Ubuntu UK LoCo team. I started writing about my Ubuntu related activities on my blog http://crunchbang.org and I have been actively promoting the use of Ubuntu via online marketing campaigns, "A Merry Ubuntu Christmas"  http://tinyurl.com/5pf2yg & "Random Ubuntu Advocacy" h
[21:08] <corenominal> ttp://tinyurl.com/2m8o2h
[21:08] <corenominal> I have also released a remastered version of Ubuntu named CrunchBang Linux  http://crunchbang.org/projects/linux/  The distribution is based around the Openbox window manager and ROX file manager. I hope that by releasing the distro I have encouraged more people to experiment with Ubuntu and alternative software available in the Ubuntu repositories...
[21:08] <corenominal> I believe I have much to offer the Ubuntu community. I think my biggest opportunity lies in online marketing and promotion. I have several projects which I would like to begin and I think that becoming an Ubuntu member would enable me maximise my contributions by providing a launchpad for future marketing/promotion efforts.
[21:08] <Seveas> (If I appear to be rushing: I am, we have lots of candidates :))
[21:08] <corenominal> :D
[21:09] <popey> i am aware of Phils work, so he gets a +1 from me
[21:09] <corenominal> thanks popey :)
[21:09] <forumsmatthew> I've been reading about CrunchBang... I'm +1
[21:09] <PriceChild> Where do I know crunchbang from?
[21:10] <popey> PriceChild: syndicated on planet ubuntu-uk
[21:10] <Seveas> Most of the wikipage is about crunchbang and ppa, not about contribs to ubuntu -- or am I reading it wrong?
[21:10] <forumsmatthew> PriceChild, perhaps from the beginning of all shell scripts?
[21:11] <corenominal> Seveas, you're reading it wrong :P
[21:11] <forumsmatthew> #!/bin/bash
[21:11] <Seveas> corenominal, then explain :)
[21:12] <corenominal> sure, might help if you could ask questions, but hey, maybe you are right, I guess it depends on what/how you evaluate contributions
[21:13] <PriceChild> Most of your launchpad karma comes from answers? How're all the bugsquad/universe contributors things going? :)
[21:13] <Seveas> corenominal, are the things you've put in your PPA integrated with Ubuntu or are there plans to do so?
[21:14] <corenominal> yes, I've just recently been working with a Debian developer to move some of my package from PPA directly to Debian
[21:14] <corenominal> and from Debian to Ubuntu
[21:14] <Seveas> and are you planning to make crunchbang an official ubuntu derivative like xubuntu?
[21:14] <Seveas> kudos for taking the debian route!
[21:15] <corenominal> well, I'm currently working towards building meta packages for CrunchBang
[21:15] <corenominal> but..
[21:15] <corenominal> as for official, I can't really say, something I'd need to look into
[21:15] <corenominal> but it would be nice
[21:16] <Seveas> sounds good
[21:16] <Seveas> +1 from me
[21:16] <Seveas> stgraber, phanatic PriceChild ?
[21:16] <corenominal> it has had lots of good feedback, so I guess there is a need somewhere
[21:16] <Seveas> corenominal, I'm definitely going to try it -- a nice working openbox environment would be nice to have
[21:17] <stgraber> +1 for packaging and all the distro work
[21:17] <corenominal> good luck :D take heed of the disclaimer ;)
[21:17] <popey> heh
[21:17] <Seveas> corenominal, scratch hardware needs no disclaimer
[21:17] <phanatic> i'm convinced. +1 (and +0.5 for taking the debian route :))
[21:17] <Seveas> good thing about working where I do: an abundance of spare laptops
[21:17] <corenominal> lol
[21:18] <popey> "spare" :)
[21:18] <Seeker`> Seveas: how spare? :P
[21:18] <stgraber> corenominal: are you in touch with MOTUs, do you plan to become one ?
[21:18] <corenominal> yeah, working with madduck has been quite an eye opener
[21:18] <Seveas> popey, I'd call that flase quoting
[21:18] <Seveas> PriceChild, still awake?
[21:18] <PriceChild> I am indeedy, just investigating.
[21:19] <Seveas> PriceChild, k
[21:19] <Seveas> I hoped everybody had read the wikipages in advance -- that helps :)
[21:19] <corenominal> I have toyed with MOTU and REVU, but need more time, it's a slow process as I don't always get the time I'd like to work on packaging
[21:19] <PriceChild> I'm evil and am going to give a 0 atm I'm afraid.
[21:20] <popey> not evil PriceChild
[21:20] <corenominal> but I enjoy it, it's fun and lots to learn
[21:20] <Seveas> PriceChild, not evil at all, everyone can have his opinion
[21:20] <corenominal> np PriceChild
[21:20] <corenominal> :)
[21:20] <Seveas> would you care to elaborate a bit?
[21:20] <PriceChild> I want to see that ppa going somewhere, and packages turning up in ubuntu or debian, do you have any urls for their progress in debian?
[21:21] <PriceChild> but i guess membership based on those should be through the universe contributors, ignore me about that bit
[21:21] <corenominal> sorry, no. Only private emails.
[21:22] <Seveas> ok, so that's 6+ and one 0
[21:22] <Seveas> you still made it, so congratulations :)
[21:22] <Seveas> Syntux, you're up!
[21:22]  * Syntux blood pressure 100+
[21:22] <Syntux> well, Nothing fancy other than my own cynical introduction :d
[21:22] <Syntux> A 28 years old Middle Eastern Linux extremist with a B.A in political science and law. I’m addicted to programming by decision so I’m not looking for a rehab. I do blog and Photograph and in my free time, I’m just a human. Started using Ubuntu since the release of Warty Warthog, Ubuntu solved many of my problems so I'm devoting time to contribute to the community. To me FLOSS is way of living rather than anything else.
[21:22] <Syntux> Sorry but It happens that I'm a linux extremist and a Middle Eastern ;)
[21:22] <corenominal> thank you everyone :)
[21:23] <Syntux> oh one more thing, currently I'm preparing for UCP exam (scheduled in June) and my main contribution is advocacy and training. (reported around 15 bug on UCP material; happens to be by email since there is no LP for it.) and working on getting a Local mirror of Ubuntu with the National Information Center (the backbone!), helping some computer stores in understand what ubuntu is all about and maybe helping them in getting their hardware certified.
[21:23] <forumsmatthew> السلام عليكم
[21:23] <forumsmatthew> :)
[21:23] <Syntux> UCP bugs were sent to Yanick, Billy and Torsten.
[21:23] <Syntux> forumsmatthew, و عليكم السلام :-)
[21:25] <Seveas> I'm going on a -1 for Syntux I'm afraid. I know he's been active but his wikipage shows very little "evidence" of that. I'd like the to be expanded a bit more, with more testimonials and links to achievements. I'm pretty confident Syntux will be a good member but we need to be able to show why we think that
[21:25] <Seveas> (see also the chat I had with Syntux before the meeting)
[21:25]  * Syntux pressuretool | grep Thermal -> not ok 90 c
[21:26] <PriceChild> Are there any cheerers from your LoCo here?
[21:26] <Syntux> Seveas, I got one more testimonial minutes ago.
[21:26] <forumsmatthew> I do see that Syntux is a leader in the Jordon LoCo. Could you elaborate on that a bit? What has the LoCo done, how many members, etc.?
[21:27] <Syntux> forumsmatthew, we have around 10 active members and by members here I mean active and contributers to the team
[21:27] <Syntux> our approval application can tell more https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JordanTeam/ApprovalApplication
[21:27] <popey> this session is more about you than the loco to be fair
[21:28] <Syntux> popey, I do understand that but I was answering forumsmatthew question.
[21:29] <forumsmatthew> On your Launchpad page you list involvement with translation into Arabic. What specifically have you translated (if anything so far)?
[21:29] <popey> yeah, i just didn't want us to go down that road
[21:29] <Syntux> forumsmatthew, not a single full application but bits in many applications.
[21:30] <Syntux> namely gnome-session phatch update-manager pidgin schooltool yelp
[21:30] <Seveas> translation karma is 103
[21:31] <Syntux> beagle, gmount-iso, dpkg, gaim (that's old), , vlc, netapplet
[21:31] <PriceChild> Lots more karma on answers.
[21:31] <Seveas> yup
[21:32] <Syntux> yeah
[21:33]  * Syntux tick tok tick tok tick tok
[21:33] <popey> i see only 15 answers on your page or am I missing something?
[21:33] <popey> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/~jad/
[21:33] <Seveas> hmm
[21:33] <Syntux> popey, you are right.
[21:34] <Seveas> so answers give lots of karma
[21:34] <Seveas> interesting
[21:34] <popey> it does
[21:34] <Syntux> Seveas, only if it's answered in the same day of question.
[21:34] <stgraber> popey: you probably only see the one in english ?
[21:34] <Syntux> stgraber, I did not answer any in Arabic; actually I didn't see any question in arabic.
[21:35] <stgraber> ok
[21:36] <forumsmatthew> I like what I see. I'm not sure I see enough of it yet to make me comfortable bestowing membership.
[21:36] <forumsmatthew> The future looks good, though
[21:36] <Seveas> can we please see votes? there are lots of candidates still waiting
[21:36] <PriceChild> I think I'm going to echo Seveas above with a -1.
[21:36] <popey> -1
[21:36] <phanatic> it'll be a 0 from me
[21:36] <forumsmatthew> -1 for now. Please continue on the current path and reapply later
[21:37] <forumsmatthew> I would love to give a plus one in the future
[21:37] <stgraber> For me as Seveas said the wiki page gives me no evidence of the work Syntux did and don't get me wrong, I'm sure Syntux did a lot of work. So I'm giving -1 for the moment and wait for him to come back soon.
[21:37] <Seveas> ok, all votes are counted. Syntux I'm sorry but you'll have to try again later. I can work with you on that wikipage if you want
[21:37] <Seveas> Mirv, you're up
[21:38] <Mirv> I'm Timo Jyrinki, 29, M.Sc in tech, a FLOSS enthusiast & the founder and team contact for Ubuntu Finland. Soon to be Debian Developer (AM approved). Contributed among else i18n bug fixes, translations, integration of my 5 debian packages (Finnish spellchecking) to ubuntu main and part of official Ubuntu's Finnish support, done a lot (fi-site/wiki/forums, press releases, CD spreading, ...) to spread Ubuntu in Finland and help users.
[21:38] <Syntux> it's ok. Thank you guys.
[21:38] <Mirv> I'm also press contact for fi-wikipedia which has gotten mainstream media coverage about everywhere around here -> trying to also mention the freedom aspect of it and free software. Founded vapaasuomi.fi (libre Finland) which covers both free software and content.
[21:38] <Mirv> Met many people at UDS-Intrepid. Done a lot of LP bug report handling/cleaning, investigating whatever interests me. I18N fixes lately include reporting/organizing fixing of some very visible ones in our installer (8.04 is good, 8.04.1 is going to be perfect!), providing i18n-fixed bzr branches or PPA packages of eg. hwtest (whole UI), brasero (menu item), nm-applet (nm-editor whole UI), policykit-gnome (whole UI). All fixed in hardy.
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[21:38] <Mirv> so there goes
[21:38] <Seveas> having read the wikipage and related things in advance: +1
[21:39] <Seveas> go finland!
[21:39] <stgraber> oh, I remember where I saw Mirv before :) Canonical sysadmins channel :)
[21:39] <forumsmatthew> I've been reading on this one as well. +1
[21:39] <PriceChild> How was UDS, what are your goals for Intrepid?
[21:39] <phanatic> same here, really impressive work. +1
[21:40] <stgraber> +1 from me too
[21:41] <Mirv> PriceChild: UDS was great to meet people I've only met on IRC. Goals for Intrepid, hmm, NMUing new gnome-spell in Debian with enchant support and syncing it to Ubuntu, trying to help mozvoikko to get in in time, improving translations
[21:41] <stgraber> Mirv: you were only at UDS, not FOSSCamp ?
[21:41] <Mirv> hopefully helping somehow with X/Mesa/DRI stuff now that I've new Intel hw
[21:41] <Mirv> stgraber: I came only in Sunday evening, so only UDS indeed
[21:41] <PriceChild> Sounds great to me and I'll +1 too.
[21:41] <popey> wow, lots of translations
[21:42] <phanatic> Mirv: huge thanks for the gnome-spell/enchant stuff!
[21:42] <popey> +1
[21:42] <Seveas> nice, quick one!
[21:42] <Seveas> congratulations Mirv
[21:42] <Myrtti> /me cheers
[21:42] <Seveas> Iulian, you're up
[21:42] <Mirv> well, thanks a lot everyone! :)
[21:42] <Iulian> Hello! My name is Iulian Udrea and I'm sixteen year old. I started using Ubuntu a couple of years ago. To be honest I was really fascinated. I like to develop small open-source software and play chess. My favorite programming language is C/C++. I love to work in a team with talented guys and I also like to share my knowledge with others.
[21:42] <Iulian> I'm a QA member and I am spending most of my time with the BugSquad team. One of my interests is to keep the Brainstorm site in shape (Ubuntu Developer role). I also like to work with the MOTUs, currently member of the MOTU Science team.
[21:42]  * RainCT is here to speak in favour of Iulian - he is doing great work on the MOTU front
[21:42] <Iulian> My future plans are: keep working with the MOTU, BugSquad and Brainstorm team.
[21:42] <Iulian> Wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IulianUdrea
[21:43] <Iulian> LP page: https://edge.launchpad.net/~iulian
[21:43] <jpds> Iulian is a talented guy and has made great work helping out in the MOTU. I fully support his membership and would very much like to see him as a MOTU in the future.
[21:43] <nand> I'd like to support Iulian with the following SQL query:
[21:43] <nand> dump080510=> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM qapoll_choice_duplicate_report WHERE moderatorid='430';
[21:43] <nand>  count
[21:43] <nand> -------
[21:43] <nand>    522
[21:43] <Seveas> nand, was about to ask for something like that
[21:43] <popey> haha
[21:43] <Iulian> I didn't know that, nand. Thanks for letting me know. :)
[21:43] <stgraber> +1 for Iulian, amazing triaging/QA work and on Brainstorm too
[21:43] <nand> (meaning he processed 522 duplicate reports in brainstorm ;) )
[21:43] <stgraber> and that's an old dump :)
[21:44] <PriceChild> Iulian: How come you aren't going for membership through Ubuntu Contributing Developers? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#ContribDev )
[21:44] <jussi01> o_0
[21:44] <Seveas> I had my doubts after reading wikipages
[21:44] <Seveas> but see what testimonials do, +1 from me :)
[21:44] <forumsmatthew> +1
[21:44] <phanatic> +1
[21:44] <Iulian> PriceChild: Good question. I don't really know what to answer. Maybe I will later.
[21:45] <Iulian> Or be sure that I will. :)
[21:45] <popey> +1
[21:46] <Seveas> PriceChild, I don't think it's the road that counts, it's the goal :)
[21:46] <Iulian> Seveas: Exactly. I'm planning this for the future.
[21:46] <Seveas> Iulian, well, if you continue on the current path, I'd like to see that future :)
[21:46] <PriceChild> Nice support from RainCT.
[21:47] <Iulian> Seveas: Sure.
[21:47] <PriceChild> Iulian: Go get MOTU!! :) I'll +1.
[21:47] <RainCT> :)
[21:47] <Iulian> PriceChild: Hehe, thanks a lot.
[21:47] <Seveas> ok, 6+'es
[21:47] <Seveas> congrats Iulian!
[21:47] <Seveas> RicardoPerez, you're up
[21:47] <Iulian> Awesome, thank you all.
[21:47] <RicardoPerez> Hi everybody! First of all, sorry about my horrible English :)
[21:47] <RainCT> Iulian: congrats!
[21:47] <RicardoPerez> I'm Ricardo Pérez. I'm 33, and I teach computer scientist (using Ubuntu ;)) in a High School at Spain.
[21:47] <RicardoPerez> I'm the "Ubuntu Spanish Translators" team administrator https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-es , and a Spanish translator via Launchpad. As administrator, my job is, basically, to approve/decline new membership requests for the team, using the criteria published in the team wiki page, and coordinate the members using mailing lists and Launchpad polls.
[21:48] <RicardoPerez> As translator, our job is to translate Ubuntu into the Spanish language. The Spanish is on the top of the translated languages in Ubuntu (obviously it's not thanks only to me, of course :)
[21:48] <RicardoPerez> I'm doing translation works since 2005, and I do send bugreports about translation problems regularly. I'm a member of the "Launchpad Beta Testers" team, too.
[21:48] <RicardoPerez> You can see my Launchpad profile https://launchpad.net/~ricardo and my wiki page
[21:48] <RicardoPerez> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RicardoPerezLopez for more information :)
[21:48] <Seveas> I'm a bit out of touch with karma. Is 5003 a lot for translations?
[21:48] <forumsmatthew> no hay nada problema, vuestro ingles es muy bien
[21:48] <ke|p> xDD
[21:48] <RicardoPerez> Seveas: yes, it's right :)
[21:48] <RicardoPerez> Seveas: I do a LOT of translations :)
[21:48]  * Flare183 says wow
[21:49] <Seveas> RicardoPerez, as I can see
[21:49] <Seveas> based on that alone, +1
[21:49] <phanatic> indeed, +1
[21:49] <Seveas> adding the rest: +1.5 :)
[21:49] <popey> +1
[21:49] <forumsmatthew> un grande +1
[21:49] <PriceChild> RicardoPerez: What have you helped organise with the LoCo, apart from memberships?
[21:50] <RicardoPerez> PriceChild: really, I don't do any LoCo organisation at all, I'm only on translations and i18n
[21:51] <RicardoPerez> PriceChild: LoCo is Spanish team, and translations is Ubuntu Spanish Translators team :)
[21:51] <stgraber> Managing a translation team is certainly not something easy, +1 for that
[21:51] <beuno> RicardoPerez, is THE top contributor to Spanish translations, in every way possible
[21:51] <PriceChild> My mistake, got confused for a second there :)
[21:51] <Seveas> stgraber -- king of the understatements
[21:51] <beuno> I quite admire his work
[21:51] <RicardoPerez> beuno: thanks a lot :)
[21:51] <effie_jayx> I second beuno  on his coment
[21:51] <beuno> (sorry if I dropped in randomly, I just saw this and though I'd weigh in)
[21:52] <Seveas> PriceChild, +1/0/-1?
[21:52] <PriceChild> +!
[21:52] <PriceChild> +1 even
[21:52] <Seveas> excellent
[21:52] <Seveas> passed with flying colors, congrats!
[21:52] <Seveas> fdd, you're up
[21:52] <RicardoPerez> wow!!!!!!! thanks a lot!!!
[21:52] <RicardoPerez> gracias! :)
[21:52] <fdd> Hello.
[21:52] <fdd> ## My name is Ionuț Jula, 18, and I'm a CS student trying to bring to FOSS ideology into my country (Romania).
[21:52] <fdd> ## Actions through (Romanian) Free Sofware Group (softwareliber.ro).
[21:52] <fdd> ## Free and Open Source philosophy is a life style for me.
[21:52]  * beuno wonders how it is RicardoPerez wasn't a member already
[21:52] <beuno> RicardoPerez, congrats, long overdue
[21:53] <RicardoPerez> beuno: thanks again :) thanks again!
[21:53] <ke|p> RicardoPerez, felicidades :)
[21:53] <Seveas> hmm, translation karma 9874
[21:53] <RicardoPerez> ke|p: thank you very much :)
[21:53] <Seveas> I seriously need to know what's "good translation karma" "better karma" and "insane karma"
[21:54]  * stgraber too
[21:54] <Seveas> fdd, since when are you translating things and how much time per week do you think you're spending on it
[21:54] <PriceChild> Seveas: I think perhaps going to the translations page, it says for example 364 results here
[21:54] <Seveas> ah
[21:55] <fdd> since I joined LP.
[21:55] <PriceChild> ricardo had 1448, yet less karma?
[21:55] <PriceChild> how confusing
[21:55] <phanatic> PriceChild: i wouldn't make any decisions based on karma. it doesn't help too much to determine real activity unfortunately.
[21:55] <Seveas> I would like to see some testimonials from other .ro people
[21:55] <fdd> it depends. really.
[21:55] <popey> PriceChild: it decays over time
[21:55] <PriceChild> ahh
[21:55] <beuno> PriceChild, RicardoPerez does a lot of work with the team itself, and seems to work on the hardest strings in general
[21:56] <beuno> which is hard to see reflected in LP currently  :)
[21:56] <fdd> we are a team too.
[21:56] <Seveas> PriceChild, karma decays, RicardoPerez has been contributing for over 2 years, fdd for less than 9 months
[21:57] <fdd> beuno, yes, it does.
[21:57] <Seveas> I'm going for 0 -- fdd's main contribution is translations. I can't read romanian so I can't judge those, I'd like to see some testimonials from other romanian translators
[21:58] <fdd> I understand, Seveas.
[21:58] <forumsmatthew> I'm going to have to agree with Seveas here. I like the idea, but I am unable to adequately judge the quality of the contributions...for now, 0
[21:58] <stgraber> I'll follow Seveas on this one, more testimonials would be great and the wiki page might need updating too
[21:58] <lukehasnoname> What is a passing vote, out of 7?
[21:59] <phanatic> 0 from me as well. it would be great, if you could bring along some people from your loco
[21:59] <fdd> I focused on translating.
[21:59] <Seveas> lukehasnoname, majority of present members (that's what the CC does now)
[21:59] <lukehasnoname> k
[21:59] <forumsmatthew> fdd, if you had some people here to speak on your behalf, I could be swayed
[21:59] <popey> ditto, 0 here
[22:00] <fdd> that's true, but... you know.
[22:00] <PriceChild> I'm going to abstain with a 0 too.
[22:01] <Seveas> that's 6 times 0. fdd, please get those testimonials sorted out and I'm convinced they'll quickly turn into 6 +1's
[22:01] <Seveas> volans isn't here so mantiena is up
[22:01] <fdd> of course. cheers!
[22:02] <mantiena> hi all
[22:02] <mantiena> My name is Mantas Kriaučiūnas, I'm 31 age, Debian user since 1999, Ubuntu user (and non-official developer) since 2004.
[22:02] <mantiena> I'm creator and main developer of Baltix GNU/Linux distribution (Ubuntu derivative), active translator of free software, also board Member of non-profit public organization "Open Source for Lithuania". I'm a full-time free software worker since 2003 ;)
[22:02] <mantiena> For contributions to Ubuntu and other info look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MantasKriaučiūnas
[22:03] <Myrtti> ooh
[22:03] <Seveas> I'm of two minds
[22:04] <PriceChild> Lots of Baltix on launchpad :/
[22:04] <mantiena> ;)
[22:04] <Seveas> yes, that makes it hard to judge *ubuntu* contributions
[22:05] <Seveas> mantiena, how much time do you spend on improving ubuntu, compared to the time spent working on baltix
[22:05] <mantiena> Seveas: it's launchpad fault, not my ;)
[22:05] <Seveas> mantiena, very true :)
[22:05] <sirex`> Seveas: see my comment on mantiena's wiki
[22:05] <PriceChild> Testemonials are also about baltix
[22:05] <PriceChild> testimonials even
[22:06] <Seveas> well, pitti saying nice things does sway my opinion a bit
[22:06] <PriceChild> but a mr pitt did leave a comment
[22:06] <popey> indeed
[22:06] <mantiena> Seveas: I'm not dividing time for Baltix or Ubuntu - I'm improving Ubuntu, but my improvements firstly are included into Baltix, because I'm not official Ubuntu developer, evet not MOTU
[22:06] <Seveas> mantiena, why not become motu then?
[22:06] <popey> mantiena: whats the status of live-installer?
[22:06] <phanatic> mantiena: are you planning to become a MOTU?
[22:07] <mantiena> popey: live-installer is suspended since 2007, because ubiquity is fully debconf-based
[22:07] <popey> ah, I see
[22:07] <mantiena> phanatic: right, I'm planing to become a MOTU
[22:07] <PriceChild> I think when providing lots of evidence about motuish things, ubuntu universe contributors should be the way to go for membership?
[22:08] <Seveas> PriceChild, I'm going to agree with that
[22:08] <Seveas> they can judge that better
[22:10] <forumsmatthew> shall I call the question?
[22:10] <forumsmatthew> what say we?
[22:10] <Seveas> That makes it a 0 from me, I think mantiena would be a good member but I'd rather see him take the motu route
[22:10] <forumsmatthew> I'm voting 0 for the same reason.. Seveas types faster than me, I think
[22:10] <phanatic> 0 for the same reason
[22:10] <phanatic> ah :)
[22:11] <mantiena> Seveas , forumsmatthew, phanatic : then there are one problem for Lithuanian LoCo team
[22:11] <Seveas> mantiena, which problem and why?
[22:11] <forumsmatthew> what is that?
[22:11] <mantiena> we can't have official LoCo team, because there are no U
[22:11] <mantiena> Ubuntu member in Lithuania
[22:12] <PriceChild> -1 from me, would like to see you get recognised by getting these improvements from baltix into ubuntu
[22:12] <Seveas> is that really a requirement?
[22:12] <Seveas> I think we have several official teams that don't include ubuntu members but I could be wrong
[22:13] <Seveas> stgraber, popey: what's your verdict?
[22:13] <sirex`> Seveas: LoCo team must have contact person, who must be a ubuntu member.
[22:13] <mantiena> AFAIK LoCo team should have a contact person, who is an Ubuntu member
[22:13] <stgraber> 0 from me
[22:13] <PriceChild> Seveas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved infers it needs ubuntu members
[22:13] <Seveas> PriceChild, sirex` thanks
[22:13] <popey> 0
[22:14] <Seveas> mantiena, people can become members by doing loco work and translations as well. If you think other people in the loco qualify for those reasons, they should apply for membership
[22:14] <Seveas> we think your application is better judged by the MOTU, so please try to go that route yourself
[22:15] <RainCT> the Catalan LoCo Team got official without any Ubuntu Member
[22:15] <Seveas> Styx`, you're up next
[22:15] <Styx`> Hi, my name is Tomas Žeimys, I'm 25 years old and live in Vilnius, Lithuania. Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Tomas%C5%BDeimys
[22:15] <Styx`> My main interests are Ubuntu advocacy and local community management. 3 years ago I've started a website (www.ubuntu.lt) that now holds over 2000 members from Lithuania. Actively involved in organizing local meetings, various events and conferences. Currently I'm working on web based social network utility for OSS users in Lithuania, launching charity project (reuse of old computers that will be powered by (x)ubuntu) and preparing a
[22:15] <Styx`>  plan for "Ubucon Baltic" (2-3 days event related to Ubuntu and other OSS for people from Baltic region). Main target - to fix Bug #1 at least in Lithuania :)
[22:15] <RainCT> (that was some time ago, though)
[22:15] <pochu> RainCT: same for ubuntu-es (the Spanish Speaking, not the LoCo team from Spain), but indeed it was ages ago
[22:16] <mantiena> Seveas: ok, I will try MOTU way
[22:16] <jpds> pochu: ..until now
[22:17] <Seveas> Styx`, can you translate "Viso žinučių / temų" to english for me?
[22:17] <lukehasnoname> @now
[22:17] <Styx`> Seveas, Total posts / topics
[22:18] <Seveas> and "pradedantiesiems"
[22:18] <DzHiBaS> For begginers
[22:18] <Styx`> Seveas, for beginners
[22:18] <Seveas> ah, that's why it has most posts :)
[22:18] <sirex`> Seveas: I and mantiena know him, and he is really from Lithuania.. :)
[22:19] <Seveas> sirex`, hehe
[22:19] <mantiena> yea
[22:19] <Seveas> not doubting that, just curious
[22:19] <Seveas> ubuntu.lt looks good, nice recommendations as well
[22:20] <Seveas> +1 here
[22:20] <sirex`> there is also ubuntu.lt/beta ...
[22:21] <Seveas> ai
[22:21] <Seveas> nice
[22:21] <Seveas> drupal?
[22:21] <Styx`> cms made simple
[22:22] <Seveas> can you mail your theme to dennis@ubuntu.com? :)
[22:22] <Styx`> Seeker`, sure
[22:22] <stgraber> +1 from me too
[22:22] <forumsmatthew> +1
[22:22] <phanatic> i know how difficult it is to lead a loco and organize regular meetings and bigger conferences. so +1 from me.
[22:22] <PriceChild> +1
[22:22] <mantiena> So, it seems we will have Ubuntu member in Lithuania :)
[22:22] <Seveas> popey still needs to vote :)
[22:22]  * Seeker` prods Styx`s tab complete
[22:23] <Styx`> Seeker`, sorry
[22:23] <Seeker`> tis ok :)
[22:23] <Seveas> popey, prod prod
[22:24] <Seveas> who of us can stay a bit longer than 21:30? The list of members is still long
[22:24] <popey> one mo
[22:24] <forumsmatthew> I can stay until 22:00
[22:24] <popey> ok, good stuff, +1 from me
[22:24] <mantiena> viva our LoCo team :)
[22:25] <Seveas> Styx`, congrats!
[22:25] <Seveas> l3on, you're up
[22:25] <Styx`> great! thank you guys, i'll do my best to not let you down
[22:25] <l3on> Hello, I'm Leo Iannacone, 22 ( http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LeoIannacone ). I discovered Ubuntu in the far April 2006 (now about 2 years ago). I started to bring the Italian community immediately with the forum and later I started to work for italian wiki importing new guides from the International wiki. In December 2006 I was appointed moderator in italian ubuntu forum and in January 2007 wiki editor by Italian documentation group. Currently, I work mai
[22:25] <l3on> nly to italian wiki, where now I'm administrator. In recent months, with help from other administrators (specially AlessioTreglia and MiloCasagrande), we have refactoried the wiki structure, organizing it into Sections to split pages by thematic arguments (it was an hard work!), for see more take a quick look to our Index ( http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione/Indice ); we have produced new themes for the wiki (Kubuntu - Xubuntu - Edubuntu) and
[22:25] <l3on>  new macros (an hack of TableOfContents to make it good to look without a dreadful table, and one for managing the compatible releases with the page that you are reading) (see for example http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub ). My work is powered by hope that one day Ubuntu will be installed on most of computers, in schools, offices, everywhere. Working constantly to make this happen.
[22:25] <Hattory> I would like to sustain Leo's application becouse he's one of the most involved users in the Ubuntu Italian Documentation Team. Its enthusiasm is amazing!
[22:26] <Seveas> l3on, can you point me to your userpage on the .it forums?
[22:27] <l3on> yes of course -> http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5827
[22:27] <l3on> But, I think you have to register for read it
[22:27] <Seveas> nope :)
[22:28] <totopalma> Leo is a very active member: he is moderator of Italian forum and is extremely active on the Documentation Team.Nice work, Leo! :)
[22:28] <Seveas> and I can manage enough italian to understand it even
[22:28] <popey> nice wiki page
[22:28] <PriceChild> Lots of forums posts.
[22:28] <l3on> tnx popey.
[22:29] <Seveas> +1
[22:29] <PriceChild> +1
[22:29] <forumsmatthew> +1
[22:29] <popey> yeah, easy one, +1, well done, good work
[22:29] <stgraber> +1
[22:29] <phanatic> +1
[22:29] <Seveas> +7 it is, congrats
[22:30] <quadrispro> congrats l3on, u r great
[22:30] <l3on> tnx all guys :)
[22:30] <Hattory> l3on: congrats \o/
[22:30] <Seveas> that's the end of the meeting I'm afraid
[22:30] <l3on> quadrispro: you too ! ;)
[22:30] <devfil> congrats l3on, you rock!
[22:30] <Seveas> Does anybody onject to, say, 30 minutes more?
[22:30] <l3on> tnx devfil :)
[22:30] <totopalma> l3on, \o/
[22:30] <forumsmatthew> Seveas, I am okay
[22:30] <xivulon> no objection :)
[22:30] <PriceChild> I'm ok to stay a little more
[22:30] <quadrispro> Seveas: it could be good :)
[22:30] <Seveas> s/anybody/anybody on the board/
[22:31] <stgraber> Seveas: I can stay a bit longer, not sure about 30min though
[22:31] <phanatic> 30 more mins is fine
[22:31] <Seveas> popey, ?
[22:31] <popey> yeah
[22:31] <Seveas> ok, continuing until stgraber has to leave
[22:31] <popey> fine by me
[22:31] <Seveas> xivulon, you're up
[22:31] <xivulon> Hi all, I am Agostino Russo, aka ago, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AgostinoRusso. I am the author and mainteiner of Wubi (wubi-installer.org), umenu, and a few other odd bits that ship on the LiveCD + related activities (wubi forum admin, website admin, guides, bugs in wubi and neighbouring core packages, etc).
[22:32] <Seveas> wubi, umenu
[22:32] <Seveas> case closed, +1
[22:32] <forumsmatthew> Um, Wubi...  Huge +1
[22:32] <PriceChild> +1 too
[22:32] <PriceChild> Lots of thanks on ubuntuforums.org too as well as posts.
[22:33] <xivulon> np
[22:33] <phanatic> +1, no question
[22:33] <stgraber> +1 for xivulon for all the work on wubi, collaboration with Ubuntu (all time in #ubuntu-installer) and helping users
[22:33] <popey> +1
[22:33] <quadrispro> grea
[22:33] <quadrispro> xivulon: great :)
[22:33] <Seveas> nice one, congrats!
[22:33] <Seveas> quadrispro, you're up
[22:33] <xivulon> thanks guys
[22:33] <quadrispro> hi
[22:33] <quadrispro> I'm Alessio Treglia, 24. I'm studying Information Engineering at the Faculty of Engineering, Department of Information and Automation of University of RomaTre (Rome, Italy).
[22:33] <xivulon> :)
[22:33] <quadrispro> After Dapper was released, I started to contribute to Italian Community growth in different ways, at first giving support in technical boards of the italian forum and in IRC channels, then reporting bugs and writing and reviewing howtos for the Italian wiki.
[22:33] <popey> congrats xivulon
[22:33] <quadrispro> Now I'm an official translator, a moderator of Documentation board of Italian forums and administrator of italian wiki, on which I've been working everyday. During this last period my attention is mainly focused on wiki structure refactoring and graphic restyling; in particular I'm proud for the last work which I ended together with Leo Iannacone (another Ubuntu-it wiki administrator), about new macros development.
[22:34] <xivulon> thx popey
[22:34] <quadrispro> I hope that Ubuntu will reach a wider diffusion and I'm trying to make it a reality, by installing Ubuntu systems on a even growing number of people's laptop and desktop and offering my free support.
[22:34] <totopalma> Alessio is extremely active on the Documentation Team, he is member of the official Italian Translator Team and member of Italian Wiki Staff.
[22:35] <Seveas> good wikipage, nice testimonials
[22:36] <Hattory> two words for Alessio: he rocks
[22:36] <Seveas> can anyone tell me how to get activity info out of moin?
[22:36] <beuno> Seveas, /RecentChanges
[22:36] <Seveas> (at least it looks like moin, the -it wiki)
[22:36] <quadrispro> Seveas: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AlessioTreglia
[22:37] <quadrispro> :)
[22:37] <Seveas> beuno, that's not too helpful to see stats for a user
[22:37] <quadrispro> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/ModificheRecenti
[22:37] <stgraber> quadrispro: I see you are in Ubuntu and Xubuntu testing teams in Launchpad, what kind of testing do you do ?
[22:37] <Seveas> quadrispro, that helps
[22:38] <beuno> Seveas, I'm not sure moin let's you get stats per-user
[22:38] <l3on> Seveas: quadrispro everyday read/correct and help new user to write and edit guides on wiki. It's a great editor
[22:38] <l3on> s/wiki/italian wiki/ ;)
[22:38] <quadrispro> stgraber: i look for bug
[22:38] <quadrispro> :)
[22:39] <quadrispro> stgraber: but in this last period my attention was mainly focused on italian wiki
[22:40] <Seveas> Leaning towards a +1 for the locowork
[22:41] <Seveas> anybody want to convince me I'm wrong? :)
[22:41] <Myrtti> /me shuffles her feet
[22:41] <popey> looks good
[22:41] <popey> +1
[22:41] <forumsmatthew> +1 here
[22:42] <stgraber> +1 for LoCo work
[22:42] <phanatic> good testimonials, and lot of created pages/documentations in the italian wiki. +1
[22:42] <PriceChild> +1
[22:42] <Seveas> excellent, +6 it is
[22:43] <Hattory> quadrispro: \o/
[22:43] <Seveas> stgraber, time enough for one more?
[22:43] <quadrispro> ﻿thank you guys :) thank you very much
[22:43] <Seveas> quadrispro, congrats :)
[22:43] <totopalma> quadrispro, \o/
[22:43] <devfil> congrats quadrispro :)
[22:43] <l3on> ;)
[22:43] <quadrispro> thank u devfil
[22:43] <devfil> quadrispro: I'm happy for you
[22:43] <quadrispro> thanks Seveas :)
[22:43]  * PriceChild thinks ikonia be idle
[22:44]  * devfil is here :)
[22:44] <stgraber> Seveas: yes
[22:44] <Seveas> ok, ikonia seems to be idle and pimanx isn't here. ke|p you're up
[22:45] <pimanx> Im here
[22:45] <ke|p> hi all!
[22:45] <ke|p> ops
[22:45] <pimanx> :)
[22:45] <pimanx> Hi all :) My name is Martin Pihl, I'm 27 from Denmark. I candidate to be the only second Dane becoming an Ubuntu member (the other being soren from Canonicals Server Team). Among other things I'm the founder of the Danish support and community forum at http://ubuntudanmark.dk, which I created in 2006, and have been administering since then.
[22:45] <pimanx> I'm very active in the Danish LoCo team, and I hope an Ubuntu membership will inspire other Danish users to put efforts into Ubuntu. sbc is here from the Danish LoCo Team. My main focus now and in the near future is Ubuntu in denmark: Work to expand the user base but also engage more new active ubunteros and lay the ground for commercial Ubuntu support and usage.
[22:45] <Seveas> ke|p, oops, I made a mistake, pimanx is up first, sorry
[22:46] <ke|p> no problem
[22:46] <quadrispro> goodbye all
[22:47] <pimanx> As you can see on my wiki page, my main contribution is in the LoCo team and particular on ubuntudanmark.dk which I founded
[22:47] <Seveas> pimanx, what's ubuntu-dk.org if ubuntudanmark.dk is the main site?
[22:47] <Myrtti> ok, since there's no way of getting to my application in the allotted time, I'm going to bed. Nitey everyone
[22:47] <pimanx> Seveas, I created this site at a time when the loco team was very inactive
[22:47] <pimanx> thats why we have to pages atm
[22:47] <soren> I imagine we'll merge at some point.
[22:48]  * soren runs the ubuntu-dk.org stuff
[22:48] <Seveas> soren, what kind of software is it?
[22:48] <soren> Seveas: ubuntu-dk.org? Django, most of it.
[22:48] <pimanx> yes, ubuntudanmark primarily runs the forum
[22:48] <Seveas> I ask because it looks eeeeeeeerily familiar :)
[22:48] <soren> Seveas: Yeah, I may have borrowed a bit from someone... :D
[22:48] <Seveas> :)
[22:49] <Seveas> soren, what would you say about pimanx ?
[22:49]  * PriceChild ctrl+u's
[22:49] <soren> I don't have a lot to add, but can certainly verify that pimanx is a very active community member and that ubuntudanmark.dk is considered a very useful ressource for many Danish Ubuntu users.
[22:50] <popey> +1 from me
[22:50] <popey> for community efforts
[22:50] <Seveas> +1
[22:50] <forumsmatthew> +1
[22:50] <PriceChild> +1 too, looks good
[22:50] <pimanx> Thanks :) - and thx for staying awake, soren ;)
[22:51] <phanatic> +1
[22:51] <stgraber> +1 and I'm affraid I'll need to leave after this one
[22:51] <pochu> stgraber: just one more? :)
[22:51] <Seveas> +6 it is
[22:51] <ke|p> :/
[22:51] <soren> pimanx: The legend says I don't sleep anyway, so no worries :)
[22:51] <Seveas> shall we meet again next week to get rid of the backlog?
[22:51] <pochu> we have 10 minutes left?
[22:51] <pimanx> :)
[22:52] <Seveas> pochu, stgraber has to leave and nagios os telling me I should do so as well
[22:52] <forumsmatthew> Next week should work for me
[22:52] <popey> would be better to stick to a schedule
[22:52] <pochu> I'm here for ke|p, I'm sure you all will +1 her in a second :)
[22:52] <popey> rather than having ad-hoc meetings
[22:52] <popey> we've certainly broken the back of the list
[22:52] <Seveas> popey, that's true
[22:52] <ke|p> haha
[22:53] <Seveas> pochu, add a testimonial to the wikipage
[22:53] <stgraber> "Meetings are weekly, and take place in the early evening for each timezone, although the day will vary a little each week, to ensure that as many membership candidates as possible can attend."
[22:53] <ke|p> I don't know if the next week  i can be here, but no problem
[22:54] <Seveas> ke|p, there's always a next week
[22:54] <ke|p> yes :)
[22:54] <Seveas> I think it makes sense to stick to the same day and time, unless candidates have trouble with that (I've seen that ones in 2 years of CC meetings)
[22:54] <popey> weekly!?
[22:54] <popey> since when did we agree that!?
[22:55] <Seveas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards says so
[22:55] <beuno> ke|p, poke me when you do get a chance to apply, I have quite a few good things to say about you  :)
[22:55] <forumsmatthew> I didn't, but I'm willing to do it briefly to get the list cleared
[22:55] <stgraber> popey: that's what the wiki page says since the beginning, I don't think it's useful either ...
[22:55] <Seeker`> popey: didn;t you see the small print? you signed away your soul when you joined the membership council
[22:55] <Seveas> I don't think weekly will be really necessary, but lets do that for now to get rid of backlog
[22:55] <popey> clearly :)
[22:55] <popey> ok, fine
[22:55] <ke|p> ok beuno, thanks!
[22:55] <popey> :)
[22:55] <Seveas> Seeker`, jono owns his soul
[22:55] <Hattory> nice meeting! bye bye
[22:55] <Seeker`> heh
[22:55] <stgraber> same time next week sounds good, then we'll see when will be the one after
[22:56] <Seveas> ah crap, next week I won't be in on tuesday of course
[22:56] <Seveas> dads 50th birthday
[22:56] <Seeker`> "of course"?
[22:56] <PriceChild> How about wednesday?
[22:56] <PriceChild> or shall we talk this over on the list?
[22:56] <stgraber> I can't on wednesday (two other meetings)
[22:56] <Seveas> let's take it to the list and use that think mark said (doodle.ch)
[22:56] <stgraber> +1
[22:57] <forumsmatthew> +1
[22:57] <phanatic> +1
[22:57] <PriceChild> funky
[22:57] <Seveas> will send summary + doodle thing to board, cc, and uwn tomorrow
[22:57] <Seeker`> PriceChild: you have to be different, don't you :P
[22:57] <Seveas> nagios is now really saying I should go, or else I'll be fired
[22:57] <Seveas> (read: databases went down)
[22:57] <popey> good work guys
[22:57] <forumsmatthew> thanks, all
[22:57] <Seveas> see you soon, all!
[22:57] <popey> Seveas: you have the log, and are passing it on yes?
[22:58] <Seveas> popey, yes
[22:58] <phanatic> thanks, see you next week. good night!
[22:58] <popey> cool
[22:58] <ke|p> good night
[22:58] <RicardoPerez> good night everyone!
[22:58] <RicardoPerez> (or everybody)
[22:59] <l3on> By all :) and tnx ;)
[22:59] <popey> nn
[22:59] <ke|p> snif