[05:24] <gnomefreak> epiphany needs to be rebuilt on new xulrunner in intrepid
[08:01] <asac> hi
[08:10] <asac> fta_: what was the problem sebner referred to yesterday?
[08:39] <[reed]> asac / fta_: ping
[08:39] <fta_> asac, try http://-kol.deviantart.com/
[08:40] <[reed]> so, do you or do you not disable the EULA on Ubuntu?
[08:40] <fta_> it seems it works for everything but linux browsers
[08:40] <[reed]> I thought I saw a patch that added the override pref
[08:40] <fta_> [reed], we did
[08:40] <[reed]> where's the patch?
[08:40] <[reed]> I can't find it
[08:40] <fta_> not a patch, it's in firefox.js
[08:41] <fta_> debian/firefox.js
[08:42] <fta_> installed as /etc/firefox-3.0/pref/firefox.js
[08:42] <[reed]> hmm
[08:42] <[reed]> k
[08:52] <armin76> fta: is it legal to disable the EULA?
[08:53] <fta> ask asac, we discussed it here
[08:53]  * armin76 blames asac
[08:54] <fta> asac, xul rc1 is not installable in hardy because of missing yelp (the break)
[09:21] <[reed]> armin76: it's not
[09:35] <asac> fta: did someone let xul into hardy?
[09:35] <asac> armin76: its legal
[09:35] <asac> (i am not a lawyer)
[09:35] <fta> no, proposed or ppa are not installable
[09:35] <asac> fta: yes, did someone let it into proposed
[09:35] <asac> ?
[09:36] <asac> i uploaded yelp to proposed too
[09:36] <fta> i can't see it
[09:36] <fta> fta@cube:~ $ apt-cache madison yelp
[09:36] <fta>       yelp | 2.22.1-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[09:36] <fta>       yelp | 2.22.1-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources
[09:36] <asac> ok so its just ppa
[09:36] <asac> yeah
[09:37] <asac> thats why i ask if someone let xul into proposed
[09:37] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ apt-cache madison yelp
[09:37] <fta>       yelp | 2.22.1-0ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
[09:37] <fta>       yelp | 2.22.1-0ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Sources
[09:37] <asac> it required approval
[09:37] <asac> if that happened the guy forgot to approve yelp
[09:37] <asac> the idea was to let all in today
[09:37] <fta> ok then.
[09:38] <asac> ok, nothing is in proposed yet
[09:38] <asac> fine
[09:39] <asac> let me check the lang pack
[09:39] <asac> s
[09:39] <asac> hopefully they are fine so we can finall whip them trough
[09:43] <armin76> oh well, the hppa failure said it all: ../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsVoidArray.h: In member function 'void nsAutoVoidArray::ResetToAutoBuffer()':
[09:43] <armin76> ../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsVoidArray.h:193: error: cast from 'char*' to 'nsVoidArray::Impl*' increases required alignment of target type
[09:43] <armin76> alignment stuff
[10:51] <asac> fta: uploaded devhelp and yelp to ppa
[10:51] <asac> fta: for langpack updates -> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-langpack/ubuntu hardy main
[11:34] <gnomefreak> yelp xul and ff3 all went through intrepid over weekend i got them yesterday. epiphany is the only broken one atm that i can see
[11:35]  * gnomefreak waiting on jdongs ack for flash-10 for hardy and gutsy
[11:38] <gnomefreak> btw ff3 xul RC1 the font shrunk from b5
[11:38] <gnomefreak> much harder to see now
[11:40] <asac> gnomefreak: ephy should be updated too
[11:40] <gnomefreak> asac: it was removed so i will try to install and see
[11:42] <gnomefreak> asac: nope not yet
[11:42] <gnomefreak> although this kind of bothers me
[11:42] <gnomefreak> epiphany-gecko: Depends: xulrunner-1.9 (>= 1.9~b4) but it is not going to be installed
[11:42] <asac> looking
[11:42] <asac> ok failed to build
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:42] <asac> gcc
[11:42] <asac> gnomefreak: look at mozillateam ppa
[11:42] <asac> for hardy
[11:43] <asac> there the bits should be avail
[11:44] <asac> ok i think it was a broken build-depend thing
[11:44] <asac> i retried the build now
[11:44] <gnomefreak> xul is only thing that failed that is related
[11:44] <gnomefreak> from what i can see
[11:45] <gnomefreak> i only see hardy epiphany uploaded to mt ppa
[11:46] <asac> yes
[11:46] <asac> intrepid doesnt have it
[11:46] <gnomefreak> still not building intrepid yet?
[11:46] <asac> i retried the build now
[11:46] <gnomefreak> damn
[11:46] <asac> lets see
[11:47] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/epiphany-browser/2.22.1.1-0ubuntu2
[11:47]  * gnomefreak gonna assume its gonna need to be retried in intrepid as well
[11:47] <asac> i retried in intrepid
[11:47] <asac> in hardy its all fine in ppa
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ah i see same issue
[11:48] <gnomefreak> well atleast hppa is waiting on geps
[11:48] <gnomefreak> deps
[12:18] <asac> anyone can confirm that RC1 doesnt have a yellow location bar when visiting https sites
[12:27] <gnomefreak> it doesnt on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/235135
[12:28] <gnomefreak> kiss off bug
[12:28] <gnomefreak> bot
[12:37] <asac> hmm
[12:37] <asac> is that a regression or a ubuntu problem?
[12:38] <asac> hmm ... ok i think its now the blue border surrounding the favicon
[12:39] <gnomefreak> yes here it is
[12:39] <gnomefreak> blue background on favicon (background as in the whole square is blue
[12:41] <asac> yes
[12:41] <asac> i think that means "secure"
[12:41] <asac> bugzilla.freedesktop.org
[12:43] <gnomefreak> ah ok cool
[12:43] <gnomefreak> asac: how did you add releases to bug 160895 like you did?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> asac: i can figure it out to save my life
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ok asac since i found out can you please target bug 235135 for hardy gutsy feisty and dapper please, you have to be on a devel team to do it
[12:49] <asac> gnomefreak: nominate for release
[12:49] <asac> you need to be ubuntu-core-dev or ubuntu-dev to accept/decline that
[12:49] <asac> so most likeyl you can just nominate, but not approve
[12:49] <asac> if you need approval on something let me know
[12:51] <gnomefreak> asac: i need approval for this from backporters i got built for gutay and hardy backports so far and waiting for jdong to let me know if feisty and dapper are ok to backport it to
[12:52] <asac> approved for hardy-, gutsy-bacports
[12:52] <asac> not sure about feisty/dapper
[12:52] <asac> whats the current version in those?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> 9.0.48 asac
[12:53] <gnomefreak> for both
[12:53] <gnomefreak> 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.3 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu11~dapper3
[12:54] <gnomefreak> nominated both
[12:54] <gnomefreak> i can always reject them when jdong says shouldnt
[12:54] <asac> n o
[12:55] <asac> gnomefreak: if dapper is lower version than hardy
[12:55] <asac> then we cannot upgrade dapper
[12:55] <gnomefreak> dapper is going to be lower always until we push it there.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> hardy has 9.0.124 IIRC
[12:57] <asac> gnomefreak: i think it was intentionally not updated
[12:57] <asac> as konqueror doesnt support xembed
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:57] <asac> and flash switched to it in recent releases
[12:57] <asac> if feisty has 0.48 than -backports is probably not worth it
[12:58] <gnomefreak> asac: ok decline them and ill work with hardy and gutsy :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> than im done i need to find out what backporters need from me and everything is set
[12:59] <asac> gnomefreak: could you ask jdong if he plans a backport for xul ffox 3?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> i will when i see him
[12:59] <fta2> just tried gnash from hardy, it doesn't work at all for anything
[13:00] <asac> it doesn't?
[13:00] <gnomefreak> i left a few messages for him.
[13:00] <asac> fta2: from ~gnash ppa?
[13:00] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnash/+archive
[13:00] <asac> ?
[13:00] <fta2> i remember Rob saying it was able to render youtube correctly, i get a black square
[13:01] <asac> fta2: which package?
[13:01] <fta2> hardy
[13:01] <asac> try the one from the PPA
[13:01] <asac> for me hardy works on a bunch of files
[13:01] <asac> at least last time i tried
[13:02] <asac> with the PPA version even full screen works ;)
[13:02] <sebner> hihi ff team
[13:02] <fta2> hi
[13:02] <sebner> fta2: 69.28.181.43    -kol.deviantart.com
[13:03] <fta2> hm
[13:05] <sebner> fta2: did you find something out?
[13:05] <fta2> i'm at work right now, so nope
[13:06] <sebner> ah kk
[13:06] <asac> sebner: whats up?
[13:07] <sebner> asac: a strange issue occurs with linux browsers and with win/mac browsers not ;)
[13:08] <asac> that is?
[13:08] <sebner> asac: -kol.deviantart.com is working on windows/mac but not on linux
[13:10] <sebner> fta2: the "-" is necessary since without it a *other* site is called
[13:10] <gnomefreak> Firefox can't find the server at -kol.deviantart.com.
[13:11] <sebner> gnomefreak: yes, but it's working on windows
[13:11] <sebner> though fta discovered that this isn't valid
[13:11] <gnomefreak> sebner: with firefox 3?
[13:11] <sebner> gnomefreak: I suppose with all versions
[13:12] <asac> sebner: i think i read a bug about that
[13:12] <gnomefreak> what did you tesst with?
[13:12] <asac> sebner: iirc its not legal
[13:12] <gnomefreak> asac: not legal than why would windows work?
[13:12] <asac> and the linux parser is more precise on what urls are allowed
[13:12] <asac> because of a bug in windows parser
[13:12] <gnomefreak> ah that could be why
[13:13] <asac> but thats all theory as i just remember that argument remotely
[13:13] <asac> sebner: you have a bug id?
[13:13]  * gnomefreak figured something should be in front of the ~
[13:13] <sebner> asac: no, just a friend told me about that and I thought it's a bug
[13:13] <asac> we definitly have a bug in launchpad
[13:14] <gnomefreak> does it work if you change the identifier for FF?
[13:14] <fta2> gnomefreak, it's a - not a ~
[13:14] <gnomefreak> fta2: ah
[13:14] <sebner> asac: interestingly the site ist "-kol" and just "kol" is a *other* site ..
[13:14] <gnomefreak> i c+p'ed it looked like a ~
[13:14] <fta2> sebner, that's expected.
[13:15] <sebner> fta2: but why does deviantart allows a site what's not valid
[13:15] <fta2> good question, i have no idea
[13:16] <gnomefreak> if you go to site without the - you will see ~kol on top
[13:18] <sebner> asac: does every broswer parses the URI at his own?
[13:19] <asac> sebner: bug 121467
[13:19] <asac> not sure if thats the bug ;)
[13:19] <asac> looks invalid
[13:19] <asac> hehe
[13:20] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/121467/comments/10
[13:20] <asac> thats the comment
[13:20] <sebner> my friend gave me the argument that though it's invalid it'a a feature and many windows user expect it to work also on linux
[13:21] <asac> yes its a bug
[13:21] <sebner> asac: a bug on windows? ^^
[13:22] <asac> no, a bug in the www :)
[13:22] <sebner> why?
[13:23] <asac> people use invalid hostnames?
[13:23] <asac> anyway, we should see if there is an upstream bug in bugzilla.mozilla.org
[13:24] <sebner> fta2: posted me one yester let me search
[13:24] <sebner> asac: maybe https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355181
[13:24] <gnomefreak> says its fixed
[13:26] <gnomefreak> if fixed it should be in b5 and/or RC
[13:26] <asac> sebner: looks right
[13:26] <asac> connected bug
[13:27] <sebner> asac: but I still don't understand why it's working on windows. isn't every browser checking the URI on his own?
[13:31] <asac> sebner: platform specific code
[13:31] <asac> $ find netwerk/base/ | grep nsURL
[13:31] <asac> netwerk/base/src/nsURLHelper.h
[13:31] <asac> netwerk/base/src/nsURLParsers.h
[13:31] <asac> netwerk/base/src/nsURLHelperWin.cpp
[13:31] <asac> netwerk/base/src/nsURLParsers.cpp
[13:31] <asac> netwerk/base/src/nsURLHelper.cpp
[13:31] <asac> netwerk/base/src/nsURLHelperOS2.cpp
[13:31] <asac> netwerk/base/src/nsURLHelperOSX.cpp
[13:31] <asac> netwerk/base/src/nsURLHelperUnix.cpp
[13:31] <asac> so nsURLHelper is probably an abstract implementation
[13:32] <asac> and Win overwrites that
[13:32] <asac> while Unix doesnt
[13:32] <asac> :)
[13:33] <sebner> asac: k, and we have no interest in implement that?
[13:35] <asac> well, upstream will apply that
[13:36] <asac> err is already fixed
[13:37] <sebner> asac: that means?
[13:38] <gnomefreak> as i said if they fixed it it would be seen in b5 rc1 but isnt. bug should be reopened IMHO
[13:38] <gnomefreak> since they planned a fix
[13:38] <sebner> I understand
[13:38] <sebner> but IIRC it wasn't working for me also with b5
[13:39] <asac> nope
[13:39] <asac> apparently its in, but still not fixed
[13:39] <sebner> asac: hm?
[13:39] <sebner> ah ok
[13:39] <gnomefreak> sebner: the fix never landed in our builds but should have per bug report
[13:39] <asac> do you have a URL that has a dash at the end of hostnames?
[13:39] <asac> e.g. kol-.xyz.net
[13:39] <asac> ?
[13:39] <sebner> asac: and every browser on linux have to hack into the code to allow that now?
[13:39] <gnomefreak> asac: fails as well
[13:39] <gnomefreak> asac: look at the LP bug it has a couple on there
[13:40] <gnomefreak> let me find the bug
[13:40] <gnomefreak> bug 122848
[13:40] <gnomefreak> the summary has 2
[13:40] <gnomefreak> http://-js-.blogspot.com
[13:40] <gnomefreak> http://-js-.smugmug.com
[13:41] <gnomefreak> even if FF did add fix that doesnt fix all the browsers
[13:42] <sebner> gnomefreak: I see
[13:42] <gnomefreak> so could there be a bigger underlining issue
[13:42] <sebner> but we shouldn support unvalid things :\
[13:42] <gnomefreak> the way "linux" handles them?
[13:42] <gnomefreak> that could be one reason why we dont see a fix
[13:44] <gnomefreak> cant be too invalid since upstream did patch FF
[13:44] <asac> ok lunch
[13:44] <sebner> asac: hf
[13:44] <sebner> gnomefreak: but it's nevertheless not valid.  http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2396.html
[13:45]  * gnomefreak gone for a bit too i have to shut this POS down. people on hardy/gutsy please test flash 10 in my PPA please so i have something to give backporters if needed
[13:45] <gnomefreak> sebner: that is true
[13:46] <sebner> gnomefreak: sry. i have intrepid :P
[13:46] <gnomefreak> i already know it works in intrepid :)
[13:46] <gnomefreak> maybe ill test harder on hardy later
[13:46] <gnomefreak> i have things to get done for now
[15:53] <armin76> asac: fta: i've tried building debian's xulrunner, they don't use Werror, you guys do
[15:55] <armin76> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15094/
[15:56] <armin76> although i don't know where the Werror comes from, since i've used the same configure parameters for both
[15:58] <asac> armin76: i know
[15:58] <asac> that debian dropped the flag
[16:00] <armin76> asac: fix then :P i'll test
[16:00] <fta2> i prefer to keep it, especially for alignments.. otherwise, we could create a situation like openssl
[16:01] <asac> i dont see why we want to ignore alignment issues, true.
[16:02] <asac> lets fix it for real or come up why its not a problem in this case
[16:02] <asac> we could then special case that particular file
[16:02] <asac> or something
[18:26] <fta> hm, after a reboot under hardy, my ~/.Xauthority is owned by root, and unreadable
[18:27] <fta> waa, and after i fixed it, xauth is still not able to lock it
[18:27] <fta> -proposed is broken :P
[18:56] <asac> fta: tell bryce if there was a xorg update
[18:56] <sebner> fta: *lol*. hmm I shouldn't reboot my intrepid xD
[19:17] <armin76> fail *g*
[22:52] <fta> hm, so we'll have ff3 RC2..
[22:52] <sebner> fta: hmm?
[22:53] <fta> mozilla decided to create a RC2
[22:53] <sebner> fta: when?
[22:56] <fta> I guess once those are ready: http://tinyurl.com/57uue2
[22:56] <sebner> fta: k, thanks =)
[22:57] <fta> The proposed, estimated RC2 schedule is as follows:
[22:57] <fta>    Code Freeze: Wed, May 28, noon PDT
[22:57] <fta>    Start Builds: Thu, May 29, early am PDT
[22:57] <fta>    Start QA: Thu, May 29, noon PDT (as builds become available)
[22:57] <fta>    QA Complete: Thu, June 5
[22:57] <fta> mozilla bug 405669
[22:58] <sebner> fta: I see :)
[23:15] <sebner> dholbert: are you the half-cousin of dholbach? ^^
[23:16] <fta> lol
[23:16] <dholbert> sebner: Haha, no
[23:16] <dholbert> sebner: Though, Jono Bacon asked me a similar question when I met him at LugRadioLive USA
[23:16] <sebner> ha!
[23:16] <sebner> ^^
[23:22] <asac> debian bug 480796
[23:22] <asac> patch attached
[23:23] <fta> hm, seamonkey 2 wants 1.9.1.x,
[23:24] <fta> they'll have to move to hg too
[23:24] <fta> i wonder what it means for mozilla-central