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jribJack_Sparrow: repeat offender?02:11
Jack_Sparrowyep02:11
Jack_SparrowIll remove it in a minute02:12
ubottuAgent_bob called the ops in #kubuntu (see about CoffinSaver (spam_bot) please.)04:47
jribBudget_Casket (n=kjkdsajk@203.162.3.156) CoffinSaver n=kjkdsajk@c-24-10-126-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)   so far so I banned *!?=kjkdsajk@*04:49
persiaGood day.  Could someone either bless or replace the bug announce bot that is now in ubuntu-bugs-announce?  mrooney is the wrangler for MikeBotu05:49
persiaEssentially, I don't want it to die just for being a bot, as it provides a good service, but if the bot is otherwise unfortunate, something else ought do that job.05:50
Hobbseepersia: er, what?05:52
persiaHobbsee: mrooney put a bug-announce bot in ubuntu-bugs-announce.  Having a bug announce bot is good.  On the other hand, there's typically a no-bots policy.05:53
Hobbseepersia: that's fine.05:53
persiaI just wanted to either get that bot specifically permitted so it didn't run afoul of the no bots policy, or for someone to put an already whitelisted bot there.05:53
persiaAh.  Cool.  Thanks.05:53
Hobbseepersia: well, prior to this, i doubt many people knew about it :)05:53
Hobbseepersia: the standard stuff about keeping it silent where it's not supposed to be, etc, apply05:53
persiaIt just started up about three hours ago.05:54
Hobbseeoh :)05:54
Hobbseepersia: it shoudln't be a problem05:55
persiaHobbsee: Thanks for the confirmation.  Just wanted to make sure.05:55
Hobbseepersia: OTOH, i'm not actually on the team anymore05:55
persiaHobbsee: That's OK.  You've probably extracted sufficient detail from my that if anyone else has an opinion, it can be resolved with mrooney in a collaborative manner.05:56
nickrudHobbsee I don't think you'll be allowed to do that, by the way ;)05:57
Hobbseenickrud: why?05:58
nickrudsomeone has to agitate for improvements. I don't think you should give up this easily (or, from my perspective, seems easily)06:00
persianickrud: One doesn't have to hold a role to comment.  Frequently, it's easier to comment when one doesn't have a role.06:01
* persia runs away, suddenly reminded as to the name of the channel06:02
nickrudpersia very true, I've been vocal for years. Only got sucked into this recently myself06:02
Hobbseenickrud: yeah, i can see hwo it might be seen as giving up06:10
Hobbseenickrud: hopefully it'll be for the greater good, though06:10
nickrudHobbsee if it's ok with you, I'll think of it as a sabbatical06:10
bazhangban evasion number 3 from ragasagar06:36
bazhangerr ragsagar06:36
bazhang3rd ban evasion sufficient reason to ban again?06:37
bazhangragsagar (n=ragsagar@59.93.27.197) has joined #ubuntu06:39
ubottuIn ubottu, calcmandan said: !kwallet is a subsystem that provides a convenient and secure way to manage all your passwords.  KWallet Manager serves a number of functions. Firstly it allows you to see if any wallets are open, which wallets those are, and which applications are using each wallet. You can disconnect an application's access to a wallet from within the KWallet Manager.  For more information, visit https://help.ubuntu.com/co06:40
bazhangokay..absent any guidance on this issue, will ban for 3rd ban evasion.06:41
Hobbseebazhang: er, how is it ban evasion, if he's not banned in teh first place?06:45
bazhangHobbsee, were the bantracker bans cleared?06:47
bazhangthe same user using different IPs is not considered ban evasion? Am I getting this mixed up?06:49
Hobbseebazhang: no, it is considered ban evasion06:51
* Hobbsee would have considered the first evasion ban evasion, too06:52
Hobbseehadn't realised it was on different IP's06:52
bazhangHobbsee, well he is banned for that name (ragsagar), also kracker, and now ragsagar again06:52
Hobbseeahhh06:53
bazhang"mediation" was a series of expletives quite a long while ago (more than two weeks iirc)06:53
Hobbseeyeha, go ahead.  that's pretty clear evasion06:53
Hobbseeheh06:53
Hobbseegotta love people like tat06:53
bazhangthen as 'kracker' he was laying the f-bomb on trit-ium and myself after repeated warnings to watch the language (apart from the whole ban evasion issue)06:54
Hobbseetasty.06:54
Hobbseewhy are you even in negotiations with this guy, again?06:55
bazhangHobbsee, difficult to see how mediation will help at this point06:56
Hobbseewell, yeah06:56
Hobbseehonestly, i'd leave it for a couple mroe weeks, and see if the guy comes back sane.06:56
Hobbseeno need to take excessive abuse06:57
bazhangat least he is not quoting the bible or siccing botnets on the network, so there is that.06:57
Hobbseeheh06:57
bazhanghi Jordan_U :)06:58
Jordan_Ubazhang, hi07:03
bazhangdisinformation express rides again07:17
Myrttiörg07:18
bazhangrobg07:19
Myrttigood morning07:19
Myrtti!kwallet07:21
ubottuFactoid kwallet not found07:21
Myrttiobjections? ^07:21
Myrttioh, too long07:22
Myrttibazhang: I see what you mean07:25
bazhangMyrtti, :)07:26
bazhang<robg_> Shadow420: I do not have the impression that software is able to destroy hardware07:51
tonyyarussooh, it is.07:58
jussi01Morning all08:32
Hobbseeevening08:32
Hobbseemy car doesn't start.08:33
jussi01Hobbsee: doh! what kind of car?08:33
Hobbseejussi01: 2005 toyota yaris.  looks like a battery issue.08:35
jussi01Hobbsee: ouch. that sucks. did you leave the lights on?08:36
Hobbseenope08:36
Hobbseeat least, i don't think so08:37
ikoniaHobbsee: not even the internal light08:37
Hobbseeikonia: i don't *think* so.08:38
Hobbseethe doors usually shut properly08:38
ikoniaI've turned the light on to check something and forgot tot turn it off, so it stayed on with the door shut, killed my battery08:38
ikoniacould just be a faulty battery too08:38
Jordan_UHobbsee, Can't be push / jump started ?08:39
HobbseeJordan_U: i just called the roadside assistance, so they'll come out and fix it.08:41
HobbseeJordan_U: i really don't want it to die again, where there will be no one around, at work, coming hom eagain08:41
jussi01RACV - Where you are a member, not a number... call up, first thig they ask, could I have your membership number please?08:43
ikoniaeyeball on blessed_guess: pining the #ubuntu channel08:45
Hobbseejussi01: hehe, yeah, ours does that too.08:46
jussi01Hobbsee: :D08:46
Hobbseejussi01: actually, they asked me for rego number and name, whcih is probably quicker.08:46
Hobbseethey usually ask for membership number08:47
jussi01true, but its kinda dfunny08:47
Myrttidoes anyone remember from Ubuntu planet, there's been these meme things with people listing the apps they've got open08:48
Myrttimany are running gnome-terminal and there's been an upcoming trend to use Terminator, but what was the another "newish" term app that people have been using?08:49
MyrttiI'm getting frustrated with xfce4-terminal and screen co-operation08:49
ikoniaeterm ?08:49
* jussi01 huggles yakuake08:51
Myrttiperhaps it was tilda08:52
Myrttiwhich tries the same as yakuake08:54
* jussi01 wishes tere was a planet.ubuntu.com archive08:56
MyrttiI ♥ rssowl08:56
Myrttigrrhhh08:59
Myrttithere09:03
Myrttibetter09:03
Myrttinow the question is "what about urls"09:04
Myrtti*yawn*09:43
ubottuIn ubottu, Agent_bob said: whoa is my owner is a weney, but folds around here like him anyway :)))10:33
Myrttiwoo, headache11:13
elkyhmm, where do i know the nick 'agent_bob' from?12:14
bazhangcaveat emptor12:24
elkyo.O12:27
bazhangragsagar again?12:31
Picihm?12:31
bazhangthis is 4th ban evasion in two days12:31
PriceChildWhy is he evading?12:31
bazhangrhetorically speaking?12:33
PriceChild@btlogin12:36
elkyi assume the same reason any twit evades12:37
PriceChildbazhang: was it just stupid advice giving and general annoyingness the first time?12:37
bazhangPriceChild, if the bar were only set that low.12:38
bazhangfirst ban was : during mute/mediation he switched nicks and re-entered channel12:46
bazhangsecond ban was as ban evasion ragsagar12:47
PriceChildwhat was he muted for?12:47
bazhangthird was kracker laying f-bombs on trit-ium and myself after repeated warnings (apart from ban evasion)12:47
bazhangfourth-->well if ban evasion is okey-dokey then there will be no fourth ban12:48
elkyban evasion is supposed to be a network no-no afaik12:48
jussi01elky: agent_bob is intelikey12:57
jussi01can be a little annoying, but generally a good helper12:58
elkyoh.12:58
bazhangwell, at this point he shall remain unbanned for this fourth offense-->not really sure about policy in this regard anymore.13:00
elkyoh lovely. user 'knoppix' in #ubuntu is arbitrarily messaging people...13:15
elkyoh, why the heck am i opped up in there?13:15
Picibetter than arbitrarily massaging people.13:16
elkyPici, intent still unknown.13:16
Hobbseeelky: nothing you can really do about it, unfortunately13:17
elkyHobbsee, plenty i *can* do about it...13:17
Hobbseeelky: not long term, though.13:17
* PriceChild hopes that wasn't another dig at freenode13:17
Hobbseewell13:17
elkyHobbsee, not within certain rulesets either.13:17
Hobbseeelky: *grin*13:17
elkyPriceChild, well... freenode does share some of the rules, but no.13:18
bazhangthe reason for ragsagar's initial mute was abusiveness towards others and continued after warnings to the best of my and the logs recollections.13:20
* elky rather wonders why some high-profile project names are registrable though... we'd at least be able to comment on the user 'debian' that harrasses #freenode without insulting a major upstream13:20
Piciseveas owns ubuntu iirc.13:21
Picier, the nick rather.13:21
elkyPici, yep. but for the same reasons that it shouldnt be registrable13:21
elkyanyway, i need an early night... if half an hour earlier than usual is considered an 'early night'13:22
PiciGoodnight then ;)13:22
bazhangif aggression towards others is not a acceptable rationale for a simple mute, then the channel will soon be unusable.13:24
Hobbseebazhang: which makes it very important that people are actually behaving in similar ways, yes.  Good luck in judging what might be right or wrong, when that isn't happening.13:25
Hobbseebazhang: i would assume that the general view is that it's not acceptable.13:26
bazhangokay Hobbsee thanks.13:26
Hobbseenp13:27
MyrttiPici: I was just wondering why you're applying for membership in EMEA meeting... that's all.13:58
PiciMyrtti: The time works out better for me.13:58
Myrttiokies13:58
PiciI was 'huh?'ing about the remark of not applying on some depreciated page anyway.13:59
Myrttioh13:59
Myrttiyour name is still there13:59
Myrttior was yesterday13:59
PiciWhere?13:59
PiciOr, rather, which was the depreciated page?14:00
bazhangubuntu membership based on coding/maintaining packages or other14:00
Myrttihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda14:00
Pici!membershio14:00
ubottuFactoid membershio not found14:00
Pici!membership14:00
ubottuWant to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember14:00
Picibazhang: Based on all sorts of things14:00
bazhangright.14:00
Picibazhang: Mostly IRC support for me ;)14:01
bazhangPici, :) thanks-->then you are a shoo-in14:01
MyrttiPici: ^14:01
PiciA few weeks ago, someone was remarking about the cloaks in here and was surprised that I wasn't a member already.14:02
bazhangentirely understandable.14:02
Myrtticloaking device ENGAGE!14:03
* Pici is a bit ashamed that he knows that the federation doesnt allow cloaking devices14:05
Myrttidid you take your name off already?14:05
PiciHuh?14:05
Myrttihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda14:06
PiciMyrtti: Oh, no, I forgot.  /me removes14:06
ikoniaPici: it was part of the kidimere accord that the federation would not research cloaking technology, this treaty was endagered by Admiral Eric Pressman by using experimental phased cloaking technology on the US Pegasus14:21
ikoniaPici: now tell me your ashamed ;)14:21
ikoniaahhh the treaty of algeron, not the kidimer accord14:22
Piciikonia: Impressive, ;)14:23
ikoniaI cannot be beat14:23
MyrttiI want my head to be shot off14:23
Myrttiwhy do I get these headaches at the most inconvenient times14:23
PriceChildbazhang: I wasn't questioning you earlier, just interested in the background.14:28
PiciIs there a convenient time for a headache?14:28
bazhangPriceChild, good to keep me on my toes :)14:30
MyrttiPici: when you don't have anything urgent to do and can just mellow in bed14:30
Myrttithat's why drinking is often timed to the weekends14:32
Myrttibecause then you can mellow in bed for saturday14:32
Myrttior sunday14:32
Myrttihead feels like exploding soon14:34
Myrttibetter take that headache pill14:34
jribwhy do people drink?  I don't enjoy it at all14:34
Myrttiif this headache doesn't go away soon, it'll go even worse to a point where I'm vomiting14:41
bazhangroot beer helps an upset tummy14:43
PiciSounds pretty horrible, I'm glad I don't suffer from migranes.14:44
Picibazhang: flat ginger ale too14:45
bazhanggood to know, thanks!14:45
Myrtti@now Helsinki14:46
ubottuMyrtti: Current time in Europe/Helsinki: May 27 2008, 16:48:25 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 6 hours 11 minutes14:46
Myrttigoarh14:47
Myrttithat late14:47
PiciIts only at 4pm here14:47
Myrttiwell atleast I'll have time to try to get this thunderstorm from my head14:48
Pici:(14:48
Myrttiand the medicine seems to be working somewhat14:48
Myrttithis is why I love ketoprofein14:49
ubottuDJones called the ops in #ubuntu (iou)14:52
MezIs is worth doing soemthing similar to proxy users for ipv6 users?#14:53
Myrttifun14:53
bazhangooh the bible guy14:53
AmaranthPriceChild: The only reason for removing that ban is if you klined him.14:54
PriceChildMez: why?14:54
PiciMez: How would that be beneficial?14:54
PriceChildAmaranth: see a few lines above14:54
MezFor the fact that the only iPv6 users we have atm are trouble makers-  and it'd get rid of quite a few from the get-go ?14:54
bazhangbetter tell everyone to fold up shop; this guy means business.14:55
Myrttithere, headache gone ♥ well almost14:56
PriceChildAmaranth: see it?14:56
MyrttiI think I can go get some minced meat if I'm careful and wear sunglasses14:56
Myrttiand a cap.14:56
AmaranthPriceChild: That's a bit harsh, no?14:56
PiciAmaranth: This is a repeat offender14:56
AmaranthOf course I have no idea how IPv6 addresses are allocated....14:56
AmaranthBut you seem to have blocked a large group14:57
PriceChildAmaranth: ipv6 is designed so that end users get /64 or /48... i forget how much... this guy will just come back near immediately14:57
PiciMez: I see at least two ipv6 people in #ubuntu and I'm still scrolling14:57
PriceChildAmaranth: I'm unsure how much of that address is his, but i'm reasonably confident it won't get a false positive before he changes and returns14:57
bazhangragsagar is back14:59
PiciAlso, its a person, not a bot. Someone who could probably follow directions if we set up a lobby channel.14:59
PriceChildLast time it took him around a day to return to devel iirc14:59
bazhangeven ipv4 (in the case of ragsagar) is easily gotten around15:00
bazhangwell he is only on his 4th ban evasion, and the bible guy is at eight..15:02
PriceChildremember with evaders, klines etc. are as effective as bans15:03
Picibazhang: I dont think a k-line is flexable enough for this sort of thing.  Probably the same issues as the ban masks15:03
PriceChildyep15:03
bazhangjust ban ragsagar again then?15:04
PriceChildhave a chat first15:04
bazhanglast time I chatted was a string of invectives then a ban evasion during the 'chat'15:04
PriceChildhehe15:04
bazhangnot so sure he got the message..15:05
bazhangiop bible guy15:44
ubottusoundray called the ops in #ubuntu (iop)15:44
bazhangbeat you ubottu15:45
bazhangiop has quit (K-lined) yay!15:46
Picibazhang: why not just mute/ban him yourself?15:46
bazhangPici, too slow; you already had him15:46
Picibazhang: But you announced it in here.. ?15:47
bazhangI was /cs kb io<tab> and he was gone15:47
Piciah15:47
bazhangthought the name was not sufficient iirc15:47
rrrJoshua 1615:58
rrrAllotment for Ephraim and Manasseh15:58
rrr 1 The allotment for Joseph began at the Jordan of Jericho, [a] east of the waters of Jerich, and went up from there through the desert into the hill country of Bethel. 2 It went on from Bethel (that is, Luz), [b] crossed over to the territory of the Arkites in Ataroth, 3 descended westward to the territory of the Japhletites as far as the region of Lower Beth HHoron and on to Gezer, ending at the sea.  4 So Manasseh and Ephraim, the desc15:58
rrr 5 This was the territory of Ephraim, clan by clan:15:58
rrr       The boundary of their inheritance went from Ataroth Addar in the east to Upper Beth Horon 6 and continued to the sea. From Micmethath on the north it curved eastward to Taanath Shiloh, passing by it to Janoah on the east. 7 Then it went down from Janoah to Ataroth and Naarah, touched Jericho and came out at the Jordan. 8 From Tappuah the border went west to the Kanah Ravine and ended at the sea. This was the inheritance of the trib15:58
rrr 10 They did not dislodge the Canaanites living in Gezer; to this day the Canaanites live among the people of Ephraim but are required to do forced labor15:58
rrrJoshua 1615:59
rrrAllotment for Ephraim and Manasseh15:59
* PriceChild wonders why chanserv deopped him16:00
rtyuiJoshua 1916:04
rtyuiAllotment for Simeon16:04
rtyui 1 The second lot came out for the tribe of Simeon, clan by clan. Their inheritance lay within the territory of Judah. 2 It included:16:04
rtyui       Beersheba (or Sheba), [a] Moladah, 3 Hazar Shual, Balah, Ezem, 4 Eltolad, Bethul, Hormah, 5 Ziklag, Beth Marcaboth, Hazar Susah, 6 Beth Lebaoth and Sharuhen.thirteen towns and their villages;16:04
rtyui 7 Ain, Rimmon, Ether and Ashan.four towns and their villages- 8 and all the villages around these towns as far as Baalath Beer (Ramah in the Negev).16:04
rtyui      This was the inheritance of the tribe of the Simeonites, clan by clan. 9 The inheritance of the Simeonites was taken from the share of Judah, because Judah's portion was more than they needed. So the Simeonites received their inheritance within the territory of Judah.16:05
rtyuiAllotment for Zebulun16:05
rtyui 10 The third lot came up for Zebulun, clan by clan:16:05
HobbseePriceChild:16:05
Hobbseertyui: dude, go away.16:05
Hobbsee!staff16:05
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw or Gary  I could use a bit of your time :)16:05
bazhangpoor ryan16:05
tomawHe really likes you16:06
Hobbseeapparently so16:06
Hobbseetomaw: can't you just stop the entire subnet connecting?16:08
PriceChildSorry about that ryanakca.16:08
PriceChildHobbsee: that changes too16:08
* Hobbsee forwards the subnet to here, for a start16:08
PriceChildI think the 2001:470 has stayed the same, but can't be sure16:08
HobbseePriceChild: looks like they've all been from 2001:470:1f14:e8:ac3f:43ea:a32e: coming in here16:08
PriceChildI was referring to past activity in -devel also16:09
* PriceChild reminds himself about what his triggers do.16:09
Hobbseedarn.16:09
* Hobbsee wonders just how many people are on that subnet.16:10
* PriceChild wonders what exactly was klined.16:10
MyrttiHobbsee: save yourself from the pain and don't wonder ;-)16:10
Myrttitilda is nice for everything else but irssi... *sigh*16:11
Seeker`Myrtti: terminator is better :P16:15
bazhangwhere is hurricane electric anyways?16:15
Hobbseebazhang: dallas, why?16:15
Seeker`bazhang: "whois he.net"16:16
bazhangHobbsee, Seeker` thanks16:16
Hobbseelooking at it, it appears to be in multiple places.16:16
bazhangjust trying to figure out the real motivation behind this crankcase16:16
Hobbseemany companies, and individuals, would be leasing stuff out of that DC16:17
Hobbseebazhang: er, you do realise that HE has a free, ipv6 tunnel, don't you?16:18
Hobbsee# Ability to get your own /48 prefix once your tunnel is up16:18
Hobbseeso, presumably these are different tunnels16:18
bazhangHobbsee, he?16:18
Hobbseeso you're only going to be able to block the /48's individually16:19
Hobbseebazhang: hurricane electric.16:19
bazhangHobbsee, sorry my mistake :)16:19
bazhangso could, be a 'she' :)16:19
hellboyJoshua 2116:20
hellboyTowns for the Levites16:20
hellboy 1 Now the family heads of the Levites approached Eleazar the priest, Joshua son of Nun, and th heads of the other tribal families of Israel 2 at Shiloh in Canaan and said to them, "The LORD commanded through Moses that you give us towns to live in, with pasturelands for our livestock." 3 So, as the LORD had commanded, the Israelites gave the Levites the following towns and  pasturelands out of their own inheritance:  4 The first16:20
Hobbseetomaw: and again.16:20
Hobbseetomaw: can you ban that /48?16:21
Hobbseethat might stop the trouble today16:21
Hobbsee(as it seems that my forward worked?)16:21
bazhangit does indeed :)16:22
bazhangfrankly that guy is freaking me out a bit.16:23
Hobbseebazhang: why?  he's a freaking nutcase, plain and simple.16:23
soundrayPlease have an eye on boselect in #ubuntu16:23
Hobbseetomaw: and again.16:25
Hobbseetomaw: you need more efficient klines.16:25
stdinsoundray: they already left16:25
MyrttiSeeker`: in theory yes. I've been unable to input such rare characters as @, ä, ö and å in it, though.16:25
Hobbseegot him.16:25
Myrttiwoo, now å äö works, but not @16:26
Seeker`Myrtti: The channel is #terminator if you want to report bugs, or launchpad *hinthint*16:27
Hobbseeytrewq: fail.16:27
Hobbseeytrewq: i win, you lose.  please go away and die.16:27
Hobbseethen we'll see how you get dealt with.16:28
=== Hobbsee_ is now known as FlyingSpaghettiM
* Hobbsee is amused.16:29
Hobbseehe still hasn't realised.16:30
Hobbseetomaw: so, er...16:31
Hobbseetomaw: can i ask a question?16:31
* Hobbsee muhahahahahaha16:31
* Hobbsee wins.16:31
Seeker`Hobbsee: is he muted in here?16:32
naliothSeeker`: backscroll16:32
stdinSeeker`: [16:25]* Hobbsee sets ban on %*!*@2001:470:1f14:e8:ac3f:43ea:a32e:*16:32
HobbseeSeeker`: yup16:32
HobbseeSeeker`: forwarded from #ubuntu to here, and muted in here.16:32
Seeker`cool16:32
Hobbseenalioth: woudl it be wrong to save you guys some work, and forward him to an autokline channel?16:33
PriceChildIf they exist it would most definitely be wrong for you to do that Hobbsee.16:33
tomawHobbsee: sure, you can ask16:33
ppwhaha16:33
ppwha16:33
Seeker`hi ppw16:33
ppwI win16:33
Hobbseesodding git.16:33
Hobbseekline away...16:34
Seeker`he wins, for small values of win16:34
stdintry %*!*@2001:470:1f14:e8:ac3f:*16:34
Myrttihmmm?16:35
Hobbseeso nwo i've got both of them.16:35
stdinthat's not right ^16:35
Seeker`nalioth: is that ban right?16:35
Myrttinope16:35
naliothit is stupd irssi16:35
Seeker`yay for Myrtti16:36
nalioththis is what i was trying to do: /mode #ubuntu-ops +b %2001:470:1f14:e8::/6416:37
Myrtticopypaste always works16:37
naliothirssi fails16:37
tomawerr16:37
Myrttinalioth: banning - you're doing it wrong16:37
Myrtti/mode +b %*!*@2001:470:1f14:e8:ac3f:*16:37
* nalioth sees it just happned again16:38
naliothMyrtti: cut it off at the e8, please16:38
Myrtticheat.16:38
Seeker`is :470: equal to :0470: or :4700:16:40
stdin047016:40
PriceChildi 'think' the first... but would have to check to be sure16:40
stdintrailing digits make a difference, leading ones do not16:41
* PriceChild wishes he had an ipv6 address somewhere to have a play16:44
HobbseePriceChild: those tunnels are free...16:44
PriceChildMaybe its my lucky day then!16:45
stdinyou can use a IPv6 tunnel from a "broker"16:45
bazhanguhoh16:45
* Hobbsee sighs16:45
PriceChildbe back in a little16:46
* Hobbsee attempts to phrase, without mentioning the word "nutcase"16:46
Seeker`what exactly do the tunnels do? just route your stuff through their connection so you end up with an ipv6 address?16:50
Hobbseeiirc, yes16:51
stdinbasically send IPv6 packets over IPv4 infrastructure16:51
Hobbseebazhang: ragsagar looks back, too16:57
bazhangHobbsee, causing probs again? let me go look16:58
Hobbseebazhang: just saw the nickchange.16:59
bazhangHobbsee, he is on triple super-secret probation17:00
Hobbseeah right17:00
bazhangif he causes no more probs, then may as well ignore him17:01
Hobbsee(wow, there are a lot there017:05
Seeker`lo christel17:10
* Hobbsee notes the silence.17:15
* Hobbsee was succesful, apparently.17:15
* Hobbsee crosses fingers17:15
christelhi hi Seeker` :)17:19
christel(sorry, just rejoining channels after a dc a few days ago, bit slow to respond!) :)17:20
naliothyep, christel, when you hang out in hundreds of channels, it takes a while to rejoin them after a client whoopsee  :|17:23
* Seeker` wonders how many channels christel is in17:24
christelnalioth: painfully so!17:25
christelSeeker`: around a 100 on freenode at any given time (i usually drop a few whenever ive been reconnected) and i guess about 50 across the other networks im on :)17:26
* Seeker` has enough trouble keeping up with 20 or so17:27
Seeker`mainly because it seems to be a pain to switch to channels > 20 in irssi17:27
Myrttipft17:27
Myrttiyou don't have the correct bindings then17:28
* PriceChild resists a bindings joke17:28
Myrttihttp://koti.phnet.fi/~laxstrom/page/eng/irssi17:28
MyrttiHTH, HAND17:28
MezPriceChild, hehe - but - it's soooo hard to resist17:28
Myrttithat'll get you to 9917:30
MezMyrtti, not enough for me ;)17:34
Myrttiwell I think binding windows up to 999 might not be problematic either17:35
MyrttiAND YOU ALL SHOULD GET TREATMENT FOR IRC ADDICTION17:36
Myrtti/me spanks everyone with over 20 channels in irc17:37
PriceChildow17:37
bazhangI have trouble with three17:37
Myrtti:-D17:37
Myrttilol17:37
PriceChildThe key to having lots of channels, is to realise you needn't stay up to date with all of them.17:37
Myrttiyup17:37
Myrttialso trackbar17:38
Hobbseevery much so17:38
Seeker`Myrtti: I find this easier: http://pthree.org/2007/07/18/irssi-windows-1-throuh-80/17:38
* jussi01 finds quassel easier :D17:39
jussi01graphic clients ftw :D17:40
Myrttieyahgh17:40
jussi01hehe17:40
Seeker`jussi01: eww17:40
MyrttiSeeker`: that's awful17:40
Seeker`Myrtti: what is?17:41
Myrttithose keybinds17:41
Seeker`Myrtti: why?17:41
MyrttiI think Nahlu's keybindings are more logical and easier to learn, but YMMV17:42
Myrttiwhee the headache is coming back17:50
RandallHey guys17:55
RandallSorry for the endless pasting17:56
RandallI talked to Hobbsee and worked things out17:57
ffmHey, do any of you know the sabdfl's email address? I was going to ask if he would release http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ubuntu-release-cycle.png under a free licence for use on wikipedia.17:59
PriceChildffm: i think its his first name at ubuntu.com17:59
PriceChildffm: whatever his launchpad nick is, at ubuntu dot com17:59
MezPriceChild, that and many many more ;)17:59
PriceChildffm: he's also online on irc ;)17:59
mneptokffm: or i'm happy to forward the request18:00
mneptokchoose your poison18:00
tonyyarussopretty sure sabdfl @ u.c also works18:00
tonyyarussomneptok will deliver the message via charades of inappropriate book titles, where the third letters of each spells your question.18:01
Meztonyyarusso, I thought he did "adult" movies?18:01
mneptok*way* too much effort. more like a dirty cocktail napkin with the request written in BBQ sauce.18:02
Mezmneptok, isn't that the internals of rt/18:02
Mezs/\//\?/18:03
Seeker`maybe mneptok should present the quetion in the form of alternative dance18:04
Seeker`or a song in the key of S18:04
ffmmneptok: http://pastebin.ca/103115218:04
Jack_SparrowAre any of you following robg on Ubuntu18:04
ffmOr should I email him myself?18:05
MyrttiJack_Sparrow: we've been looking after him the last two days18:06
Jack_SparrowOh my...18:06
Jack_Sparrowok.. so it isnt just me18:06
Mez<anirudh0> robg_: i must correct my earlier statement..you are very sleepy or a little high :) <-- poked them about that line too18:07
Myrttibazhang knows more18:07
Mezffm - your request for that image should go through Gerry Carr. not Mark Shuttleworth18:08
ffmMez: Who's that?18:08
Seeker`Randall: how can we help you?18:09
Mezthe person who made the image18:09
mneptokffm: have you e-mailed him? if not, i will. if you have, i'll save bandwidth.18:10
MyrttiSeeker`: mmpphhhhgghhnnnhgggg18:10
ffmmneptok: Nevermind, I'll email Carr.18:10
MyrttiSeeker`: do you see the sock?18:10
mneptokffm: i'm in /query with Gerry now.18:10
Mezmneptok, surely it's internal bandwidth ?18:10
mneptok:)18:10
Seeker`Myrtti: ?18:10
ffmmneptok: ok, that will work.18:11
MyrttiSeeker`: /bans18:11
Myrttimmm candy18:14
jussi01hrm... are there any wordress experts here?18:20
PiciI've installed wordpress a few times18:22
jussi01Pici: see -offtopic18:23
PiciI am ;)18:23
jussi01:)18:23
jpdsnixternal: reboot?18:40
nixternaljpds: updated kernel18:58
jpdsOK.18:59
Seeker`may want to keep an eye on thomas_ in #u. Keeps on speaking french, and doesn't actually appear to want support19:20
Seeker`or to offer it19:20
ubottusoundray called the ops in #ubuntu (thomas_)19:23
jpdson it19:24
jpdssoundray: I'm watching him19:24
soundrayjpds: aren't two three-star swearwords enough? He clearly isn't there for any kind of constructive purpose19:26
jpdssoundray: one more change and then, err, *BOOM*19:26
PriceChildHe's playing dumb in PM.19:27
jpdsPriceChild: yep, same here19:27
Seeker`CN is being quite persistant19:27
PriceChildClaiming not to understand, but understanding enough to understand me when I ask what he doesn't understand.19:27
PriceChildSeeker`: CN?19:27
Seeker`user in #u19:28
Seeker`keeps on speaking chinese19:28
PriceChilddo a temporary ban forward on cn if need be19:29
PriceChilduse kick, not remove though19:29
PriceChildah, disappeared19:30
jpdsPriceChild: damn, auto_bleh has no banforward19:30
jpds(with kick, just reveom)19:30
Myrttimight have a troll in #u19:34
Seeker`Myrtti: Just one?19:34
Myrttione really prominent one19:34
Myrttigreat, now he's in -offtopic19:37
jussi01PriceChild: ping19:51
PriceChildjussi01: pong20:07
ffmIs the current and prior launchpad logos free?20:19
ffm(as in commons-free)20:20
PriceChildffm: #launchpad?20:25
PriceChildseisen is asking me about getting his ubuntu/member cloak back.20:26
PriceChildnalioth: elky LjL ^20:26
naliothis he active in Ubuntu stuff?20:28
PriceChildI think he's still active on the forums and things, he asked me from the #ubuntuforums-beginners team channel20:29
Myrttioh, lol, robg_ from aol20:35
Myrttithat figures it *all*20:35
PriceChildWell that was reasonably easy to get irssi and an ipv6 tunnel working20:43
* PriceChild has a quick play20:43
Myrttioh dear20:46
Myrtti15 minutes before the meeting starts20:46
Seeker`:O20:47
Myrtti@now Helsinki20:47
ubottuMyrtti: Current time in Europe/Helsinki: May 27 2008, 22:49:17 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 10 minutes20:47
Myrttifortunately I'm probably the last one on the list20:48
PiciBlah.21:09
PiciOf course today had to be the day where some crisis came up 5 minutes before I was going to leave.21:10
Myrttiof course21:10
Picihuh, seveas is in #ubuntu-meeting?21:12
Seeker`it would seem so21:12
jpdsPici: yeah, he's in the council21:12
Picijpds: buh?21:12
Seeker`the membership EMEA council21:12
jpdsPici: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board-emea21:13
Picijpds: I knew Pricey was... honestly never noticed Seveas's name there.21:19
* Pici is on todays EMEA list21:19
* PriceChild tries to organise his mind into words, and fails.21:22
* jpds takes a good look at the list and thinks "Damn, loads of people to support"21:22
PiciPriceChild: I think you did fine21:23
Picijpds: argh, I just figured out who you are. STOP CHANGING YOUR NAME21:23
Seeker`what was jpds' old nick?21:24
jpdsSeeker`: /whois21:24
Picijpatrick, jdavies....21:24
jussi01+1 Pici21:24
Picijjacobjinglewhateverthatthisis21:24
jpdsikonia: you there right?21:29
jrib!no, w32codecs is <alias> medibuntu21:45
ubottuI'll remember that jrib21:45
Myrtti!w64codecs21:46
ubottuFactoid w64codecs not found21:46
jpdsPriceChild: my support don't count? :(21:47
Seeker`how do you do channel specific factoids?21:48
PriceChildjpds: nope :P21:48
PriceChildhehe yes sorry21:48
jpdsSeeker`: !fact-#channel21:49
MyrttiI'm getting nervous, the other guys are so good.21:49
jussi01Seeker`: !factoid-#channel21:49
PiciMyrtti:  I'm still trying to put together my intro21:49
jussi01jpds: you are always too quick for me...21:49
PiciI keep writing stuff and then deleting it21:49
jpdsjussi01: spooky heh21:49
jussi01Pici: Myrtti take a chill pill :D21:49
MyrttiPici: oh shush21:49
jussi01jpds: not really - you type faster than me..21:50
PiciMyrtti: you shush21:50
Myrttimy wikipage is puny21:50
jpdsMyrtti: it's in quantity, it's quality! :D21:50
jussi01Myrtti: but you have cheerers also21:50
Myrttiyeah. My boss, who just got approved himself :-D21:51
Myrttithough, I must admit, I cheered him :-D21:51
Myrtti(and now Tm_T has a permission to kick me in the leg for doing it)21:52
jribMyrtti, Pici: wow, you guys are all the way at the bottom of the list...21:54
Picijrib: Thats because I moved myself from the Americas list to this list a bit late.21:54
PiciRather, I removed myself from the americas list and forgot to add myself here.21:55
jribah21:55
Picijrib: (I dont know what Myrtti's excuse is)21:55
* Pici runs21:55
MyrttiI've been dillydallying with the idea for years, but didn't have the guts to apply until Mirv did. I had a lowsy weekend so I did the application last night.21:56
PiciBetter excuse than mine ;)21:56
elkynalioth, PriceChild: afaik he's the guy who got uncloaked when he told people in ##windows something rather foolish21:57
Seeker`elky: wow, laggy conversation21:57
elkySeeker`, it's 7am. onlu just got up and read scrollback21:58
Seeker`elky: fair enough :)21:58
elkynow, i ought to get dressed and go to work21:59
elkybye22:08
Myrttita-tah22:08
Picibye again!22:08
Myrttire #ubuntu-meeting I guess the Finnish loco has been around too long for that to be valid  :-P22:14
Seeker`Myrtti: I suspect you wont get approved today22:43
Myrttiyeah, me too22:43
Seeker`:(22:43
MyrttiI was already taking my application back at one point, though, anyway22:43
Myrttibetter this way, I'll have more time to work on my weak points22:44
Myrttinitey folks.22:48
Picibyas Myrtti22:48
Seeker`o/22:48
PriceChildHow odd, someone requesting a password reset on youtube for me..23:14
Seeker`PriceChild: Thats Bad ™23:15
ubottuvirogenesis called the ops in #ubuntuforums ()23:19
Seeker`someone look at / possibly keep an eye on moose_ in #u23:30

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