[19:06] <johanbr> bryce: About the Radeon lockup I asked you about a few days ago, there's a bug filed now (bug #234811). Hardy locks up completely when running 1440x900. Gutsy works fine.
[19:17] <bryce> johanbr: ok thanks, looking
[19:23] <tseliot> tjaalton: the drivers are ready however I would like to know which versioning scheme we should adopt. For example shall we put something like this in the changelog? nvidia-graphics-drivers-2.6.24 (2.6.24.500-500.30) intrepid; urgency=low
[19:25] <tseliot> I have adopted Debian's name schemes
[19:33] <tjaalton> tseliot: no need for the kernel version being there..
[19:34] <tjaalton> better use the nvidia versions like debian
[19:38] <johanbr> bryce: Is it really possible to do anything (apart from maybe SysReq traces) when the machine locks up completely?
[19:43] <tseliot> ﻿tjaalton: one of the packages will be named nvidia-glx and should replace nvidia-glx-new. We have to make sure that we don't break dist-upgrades from Hardy to Intrepid therefore
[19:44] <tseliot> we should be careful about the version and about the control file
[19:45] <tseliot> maybe adding something like this to nvidia-glx would solve part of the problem:
[19:45] <tjaalton> tseliot: of course, but the version number is irrelevant if it Replaces another package
[19:45] <tseliot> Conflicts: nvidia-glx-src, nvidia-xconfig, nvidia-glx
[19:45] <tseliot> Replaces: nvidia-glx-src, nvidia-glx (<< 170.12+2.6.24.500-500.24)
[19:45] <tseliot> Provides: nvidia-glx, xserver-xorg-video-2
[19:45] <tseliot> tjaalton: yes, of course
[19:47] <tseliot> ﻿tjaalton: this wouldn't automatically replace nvidia-glx-new with nvidia-glx in case of upgrade though
[19:48] <tjaalton> missing -new
[19:49] <tjaalton> oh
[19:49] <tjaalton> I thought it would make sense to rename current nvidia-glx as -legacy-96xx like in debian
[19:50] <tseliot> and I did it. I'm talking about nvidia-glx-new
[19:50] <tseliot> all the three flavours provide ﻿nvidia-glx
[19:50] <tseliot> maybe this is confusing you?
[19:50] <tjaalton> why?-)
[19:51] <tjaalton> why do they provide nvidia-glx
[19:51] <tseliot> so that they conflict with each other
[19:51] <tjaalton> and it should replace nvidia-glx-new, not nvidia-glx
[19:51] <tseliot> ﻿nvidia-glx-new becomes nvidia-glx
[19:51] <tseliot> ﻿nvidia-glx becomes nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx
[19:52] <tjaalton> right
[19:52] <tseliot> ﻿nvidia-glx-legacy becomes nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx
[19:52] <tjaalton> but the lines from control are wrong
[19:53] <tseliot> those lines, which I haven't changed yet, belong to what used to be the nvidia-glx-new-envy package
[19:53] <tseliot> any suggestions for the new control file?
[19:54] <tjaalton> make it ready first and I'll review it then
[20:47] <bryce> johanbr: yeah ssh in from another box and attach to the process
[20:47] <bryce> johanbr: see wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing for directions
[20:50] <johanbr> bryce: The network dies too.
[20:51] <bryce> hmm, then the issue  may be in the kernel
[20:52] <johanbr> An all-Gutsy installation works, but Hardy with the Gutsy kernel hangs, so it doesn't appear to be in the kernel.
[20:53] <bryce> in any case, without a backtrace there is not more troubleshooting that can be done on it
[20:54] <bryce> make sure you're using a wired connection
[20:55] <johanbr> Is there a way of installing the Gutsy version of the radeon driver on Hardy, or has the X server changed too much?
[20:57] <bryce> well, you could apt-get the source and rebuild it against your xserver.  It ought to work ok I should think.
[20:57] <johanbr> Alright, I'll walk him through that and we'll see what happens. Thanks for the help.
[20:57] <bryce> sure, good luck
[21:11] <bryce> mesa 7.1 rc1 was announced :-)
[21:18] <tjaalton> yep, finally :)
[21:24] <bryce> tjaalton: have you ever tried device Option "DRI2" ?
[21:28] <tjaalton> bryce: no.. haven't built snapshots in a while
[22:04] <tjaalton> seems that DRI2 is not happening until the TTM/GEM mess is settled
[22:04] <bryce> :-/
[22:04] <bryce> I was afraid of that
[22:24] <kushal1> jedimind, looking back, I don't know what I was thinking trying to add everything by hand. I cannot even believe I added over 60 of those by hand. I wish I could drag and drop using default settings 
[22:37] <kushal1> Hello, I am making a home DVD with about 200 short clips using Devede. I have already added about 60 files one at a time but my hand is starting to hurt. It is also really boring. Is there a way for me to add a bunch of mpg files on to the devede list like a batch or drag and drop? please let me know. thanks  (please answer) 
[22:38] <bryce> kushal1: I think you may be asking on the wrong channel
[22:38] <bryce> kushal1: this channel is only for discussing X11
[22:44] <kushal1> sorry, bryce