[00:00] cody-somerville: so how would I create a branch in there? [00:00] cody-somerville: nevermind, I;ll rtfm [00:00] lol [00:00] :) [00:02] * TheSheep tries to think of a good name for the branch [00:12] omg, how do they get away with bzr being so slow? O.o [00:24] lol [00:24] anybody knows why when xfce wants to start it keeps saying that the monitor is out of range ? [00:30] hexoroid: looks like you have set a graphics mode that your monitor can't handle [00:30] hexoroid: try pressing alt+ctrl+gray plus [00:30] well its on default looks ok [00:30] hexoroid: you mean it works? [00:30] it eventually [00:30] goes ok but whenever i reboot [00:30] it keeps saying that [00:30] like it gives it 5 trys [00:31] my monitor can handle 128x1024 [00:31] 1280* but if i set it to that it looks crappy [00:31] like letters a bit messed up [00:31] what do you mean by gray plus ? [00:33] the plus key on the numpad [00:34] ctrl+alt AND THEN plus [00:34] does nothing [00:37] is there any issue with xunbuntu 8.04 and compiz-fusion? [01:11] Hey, I'm having an issue with 8.04 [01:11] THe os won't fill my screen. [01:11] THere are just black bars all around the screen. [01:11] Anyone know how to fix that? [01:15] Hey, Im new to xubuntu and im looking for a link on all the commands i should know... Thanks if you can help === Olla_Presto is now known as Crazytales [01:31] Circuittsunami: try the desktop guide maybe [01:32] feusually your monitor has some knobs or OSD to adjust your picture [01:32] Circuittsunami: https://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html [02:29] I installed Xubuntu on my Dell Inspirion 5100 and am having a lot of trouble connecting to a Router, would anyone know why? [02:38] hello i reinstalled xubuntu again but no xfce says no connection [02:38] any clues ? [02:52] What do you mean by that? Your desktop UI is gone? [02:53] weird [02:53] I've been trying to xubuntu live cd on this server and it just stays on a black screen with a blinking cursor [02:53] regular ubuntu seems fine though [02:58] DaveKong no.. its just there is no network connection [02:58] i reinstalled now there is no network connection wierd.. === FreeFull is now known as acigar === acigar is now known as FreeFull [03:00] Do you update to a newer version? [03:00] *did [03:00] hexroid [03:00] hexoroid [03:01] well [03:01] no [03:01] i just reinstalled [03:01] i had problem with xorg [03:01] and then i reinstalled [03:01] i burned the same *.iso [03:01] to CD as the one i did before i had connection just fine [03:01] now xfce says "X" no connection :( [03:05] ill try reinstalling again [03:06] its 8.04 version [03:09] whats the difference between Guided - resize and Guided - use entire disk ? [03:11] entire disk option, I believe will creative 1 large partition [03:11] create** :( [03:11] so [03:11] ill use Guided - use entire disk ? [03:11] because i got nothing else on this hard drive [03:11] * kappaccino shrugs [03:11] I heard it was nice to have /home on a separate partition [03:12] so maybe first option then ? [03:12] i dunno [03:12] your choice [03:13] well i am reinstalling for 3 time [03:13] 2nd time i had no connection [03:13] which was wierd [03:13] first time i did now eth0 didnt pick up nothing [03:13] heh [03:19] hello, I'm having fan problems with my dell c600 running xbuntu 7.10. Is anyone able to help me please? [03:25] hello, I'm having fan problems with my dell c600 running xbuntu 7.10. Is anyone able to help me please? [03:28] anypme lmpw where i can find the new hardy heron wallpaper for xubuntu? [03:42] heh, good luck. everyone seems to be aslep [03:43] Hi how can i see/edit what processes get loaded up when xubuntu starts? i seem to recal that there is a GUI program that does this but im not sure. [03:44] I think there's one in settings [03:44] applications>settings>autostart [03:44] I've never used it, but it seems like a good place to start [03:45] i see no autostart [03:45] Autostarted applications [03:45] Tored Top [03:46] oh in the setting manager [03:46] Applications>Settings>Autostarted Applications [03:46] i was thinking of something more detailed. [03:47] i can't create a new file on the desktop. is it normal? [03:47] no [03:49] what kind of file are you trying to create? [03:50] i think i solved it- in the desktop setting there is a checkbox that change the menu on right click. [03:51] I can't mark multiple items with the mouse on the desktop. in it normal? [03:51] Hold down Cntl [03:52] while clicking [03:52] by dragging the mouse while clicking? I can't seem to do that too, so maybe [03:52] could be a linux thing [03:52] but honestly, this is like the blind leading the blind [03:52] i can select multiple things just by holding down Cntl [03:54] but you can't right or left click and drag to select more than one item, correct? [03:57] What effect does running a gnome/kde native app in xubuntu have? [03:59] Amarok seems to be a little slow for me, but that could just be a problem with my hardware. [04:04] ddro: dbdii407 in ubuntu i could do that. now i can't delete 2 files together... [04:05] is it just me or is it limitation of xfce4? [04:05] could be. again, blind leading the blind here. A bunch of noobs guessing [04:07] hmm, seems if I use ctrl to highlight more than one item, I can drag them both to the bin at the same time [04:09] gah, my laptop smells like it's melting [04:11] anyone know how I can get 'root' to run sensors-detect? [04:13] when i drag and drop it always copy the file. how do i MOVE instead? [04:14] right click and cut, then paste? [04:16] ddro: i know. but can i change the behavior of drag and drop to MOVE instead of COPY? [04:17] good question. I haven't seen anything like that yet. Maybe it'd just be easier to learn the ctrl shortcuts? like crtl-v & ctrl-p in windows? [04:20] anyone having any luck with bmpx or tunapie with shoutcast? bmpx keeps crashing whereas it never has before, and tunapie plays for a second and then stops. [04:21] don't use either app, sorry [04:22] what do you use for shoutcast, anything? [04:24] amarok [04:25] and it's working fine so far [04:51] Does anyone know how to compile a loaded module? [04:52] sorry buddy, not me. And good luck getting an answer here. This is probably the most frustrating help channel i've ever been on [04:52] :( [04:52] linux is good, the support just sucks, esp ubuntu [04:53] ddro: what's your question? [04:54] been trying to get fans to just turn on on my c600. I've tried sensors-detect, but it can't find anything. fans worked under xp, and my laptop is going to melt if I don't find a solution [04:55] the bios pages have nothing about fans that I can see either. [04:56] you tried the i8k kernel module? [04:58] no, haven't heard of it. I'll google it, thanks! [04:58] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_Latitude_C600#Volume_Keys_and_Fans [04:58] thanks for the link [04:58] that was pretty much the first result when i googled [04:58] guy wrote up an article on the c600 [04:58] seems like he has all the basis points covered [04:59] and he explicitly mentions the fan [04:59] so with a bit of research on compiling that kernel module (if ubuntu doesn't provide it) you should be good to go [05:00] and as far as DaveKong goes... "Does anyone know how to compile a loaded module?" isn't a very clear question [05:01] aanderse: my confusion arises because I thought I needed the module to make my network card work but the module already appears to be loaded and yet my card is not working [05:02] wireless? [05:02] wired [05:02] dell inspirion 5100 [05:02] from 2003 [05:02] I can not figure out how to get it to connect to my network for the life of me [05:03] do you have a wireless connection that works btw? [05:03] no [05:03] hmm [05:03] i'm on an inspiron 1420 right now (debian unstable) [05:04] and the wireless didn't work out of the box either [05:04] * wired [05:04] now i don't need wired, because i use wireless [05:04] What did you have to do? [05:04] oh [05:04] so i just never bothered to get the wired working.... [05:04] heh [05:04] lol [05:04] but the wired works on this laptop with ubuntu [05:04] hmm [05:05] more recent one? [05:05] debain unstable is more recent than ubuntu [05:05] heh [05:05] hmm [05:05] I tried a debian install and it failed [05:05] but it was not the unstable [05:06] 40r3 [05:06] Network Card [05:06] The Integrated Network Card in this laptop is a Broadcom 4401. Support for this card is not found in the Linux kernel and must be found elsewhere. Why not from Broadcom itself? (http://www.broadcom.com/docs/driver-download.html). Make sure to grab the BCM4401 Driver for Linux. [05:07] that was a redhat thing [05:07] so [05:07] lemme see here [05:07] anyone actually used the new Fedora? [05:07] which new one? [05:07] oh, did they just release? [05:08] fedora 9 [05:08] I'm waiting on my flash drive so I can make a bootable persistent usb [05:08] * kappaccino read something on lifehacker [05:08] mmm [05:09] DaveKong: you need bcm4400 series [05:12] ok so it looks like your actual driver is gpl'd [05:12] which is good [05:12] thanks for the help aanderse! Later! [05:12] ddro: anytem, later [05:12] aanderse: alright thanks I found it... now it says that the archive type is not supported though [05:13] rpm file [05:13] DaveKong: so i'm a bit confused, your driver had source code in dapper and edgy, but after that it appears not.... [05:13] which leads me to believe it's in the kernel now [05:13] but.... [05:13] that is what one site told me [05:13] since your internet isn't working.... [05:13] confusing [05:14] yes [05:14] I am very confused a lot [05:14] and frustrated [05:14] guess I will try this [05:14] see what happens [05:14] wait [05:14] can you open a terminal [05:15] one sec [05:15] yea [05:15] (I just got the rpm loader if I need to use it) [05:16] sudo modprobe b44 [05:16] see what happens if you type that [05:16] retuns me to the starting line [05:16] if I do lsmod [05:16] b44 is listed [05:17] but it says 0 for used by [05:17] and if I do insmod it says it is not there [05:17] dmesg [05:18] ? [05:18] what I am looking for I get a lot of stuff [05:19] not entirely sure [05:19] heh [05:20] anywho [05:20] odd problem [05:20] what i would do [05:20] tells me b44 eth0 is up at 100mps full duplex flow control is of for tx and rx link is down [05:20] is go to ubuntuforums.org [05:20] and make a post saying you have a dell 5100 which uses the broadcom 4401 [05:20] which is built into the kernel now [05:21] but your wired connection isn't working [05:21] i'm sure someone can help you out with that [05:21] where in the forum do I post? [05:21] there is a dell section [05:21] ok I will try it [05:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=342 [05:22] sorry i can't solve this for you, but need sleep... and to be honest i'm a bit too baffled by it [05:22] should I bother trying the redhat driver install? [05:22] alright thanks for what you told me [05:22] i'd probably skip that for now in favour of ubuntuforums [05:22] ok [05:23] every problem i've ever posted there has been solved [05:23] might take a couple days though [05:24] good luck, bye for now [05:24] i stated using awesome window manager instead of xfce4. is anyone else try replacement for desktop environment? === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [06:37] hi guys === Ekushey is now known as Ekubuntu [10:04] where does xubuntu use its memory? [10:04] I mean , come on.. 100 MB more than reasonable [10:07] Alecmg, linux uses un-used memory so it doesnt have to write to swap as often, so that 100mb can well be swap space so no 'real' ram usage [10:07] heh, thanks for then insight [10:07] its just a random rant, I know how memory owrks [10:08] and I wonder what applications does ubuntu have in memory that Vector Linux in my work laptop doesnt [10:08] ps aux :) [10:08] one shows 140MB "real" consumption, the other over 200, 280 usually [10:16] Hey guys. I hope you're having a good day or night.. My ethernet card is not recognized. It comes up in lspci as Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 05) [10:37] melch: what happens when you do 'sudo modprobe e100' ? [10:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/15042/ [10:38] O.o [10:39] looks like the card's bios is broken [10:39] did it work before? [10:40] TheSheep: in windows it works [10:41] it shouldn't be the fact i used the xubuntu cd from 8.04 launch right [10:41] this is weird, we have a couple e100 here and they all work fine [10:42] no, it doesn't matter [10:42] i was looking at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/30666 [10:42] Launchpad bug 30666 in linux-source-2.6.15 "E100 Driver - EEPROM Corrupted" [Medium,Invalid] [10:42] the patch is gone [10:42] ubottu: beat u to it [10:43] Factoid beat u to it not found [10:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/30666 [10:44] Launchpad bug 30666 in linux-source-2.6.15 "E100 Driver - EEPROM Corrupted" [Medium,Invalid] [10:46] TheSheep: Anything? [10:47] melch: well, you could also give your version in there [10:48] melch: previously the bug was closed because the original reporter didn't respond [10:48] TheSheep: how do i find my version [10:48] melch: you could also try to compile the module with the patch added [10:48] melch: you said it's 8.4, no? [10:48] 804 [10:48] 8.04 [10:49] o of ubuntu ok [10:49] uname -a will also give you the version of kernel [10:50] any details about your card would be helpful too, there are many e100 coards [10:50] cards [10:50] kk [10:51] melch: have you seen http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2004-04/0842.html ? [10:52] TheSheep: how is that helpful [10:52] the error is actually different [10:52] and the guy said it was something on his side [10:53] you could try some things like trying to put the card into a different slot [10:54] TheSheep really? [10:55] really? [10:56] mitch_: I kid you not [10:57] so bad slot [10:58] does it work now? [10:59] idk [10:59] can't do that now [10:59] roommate is alseep [11:01] I'm not sure it will help or anything [11:01] TheSheep: then why do it [11:01] because it might help and then you have your problem solved [11:02] it may be some irq conflict or bad connection in the slot or anything [11:02] I'm pretty sure any patch from 2004 is laready incorporated in the kernel [11:03] ok [11:04] is there a way to mount a remote directory or partition securely? SSHfs is easy to set up and secure, but performance is pretty poor and I've been told that NFS is not designed for use over untrusted networks... any thoughts? [11:05] is there a way in xfce to force some app to stay at the bottom of other apps [11:05] bottom? [11:05] you mean on the desktop [11:05] yeah, beneath other open apps [11:05] to be more specific [11:06] I mean firefox [11:06] umm... i dont know, you can force an app to be on top, but i dont know on the bottom [11:06] Riot777: you can force an app to stay on top... [11:06] you want firefox to remain on the bottom? [11:06] :P ye I know stay on top is easy but stay on bottom with firefox 3.0 :d [11:06] MrNaz: I guess you could try CIFS... [11:06] CIFS ? is that complex? [11:07] cause when I click some other app link like pidgin, xchat, lifrea [11:07] MrNaz: it's a flavor of samba [11:07] it always push firefox on top other apps [11:07] oh... will that work linux box to linux box? i dont want to install large software stacks to make this work [11:07] that's weird cause firefox 2.0 behaved ok :P on 7.10 [11:07] Riot777 aah... yea that annoys me too [11:07] any tips would be welcome [11:08] Riot777: eah, firefox does that window activation thing [11:08] Riot777 coz i want to push links into ff and read them later [11:08] ah [11:08] so it's firefox problem [11:08] argh [11:08] Riot777 yes, if you find a way to tell firefox to not steal focus, then let me know [11:08] in fact i'm sure there's a way [11:08] MrNaz, you could try using nfs trough a ssh tunnel [11:08] Riot777: you can move firefox to other workspace and change the xfce settings to not move it on activation [11:08] dunno if thats faster [11:08] Riot777 i'll sort this out [11:08] ablomen yea i thought of that [11:09] yeah tried that but it's kinda odd [11:09] Riot777: http://sheep.art.pl/2007-09-08_Firefox_jumping_between_workspaces_in_XFCE [11:09] ablomen but ive never used nfs before, would that be hard? [11:09] ;o [11:10] ty TheSheep [11:10] MrNaz, http://www.howtoforge.com/nfs_ssh_tunneling :) [11:10] MrNaz, google ftw! ;) [11:12] dzieki TheSheep =] [11:13] ablomen heh thanks [11:13] sorry for making you do that ;) [11:15] Riot777: prosze bardzo [11:21] MrNaz, hehe np :P [11:27] Hello. [11:32] hey there ;) [11:32] i wanna make a bug report about xlockmore [11:33] when you lock your screen with xlockmore, you have lovely screensavers on your screen, and when you wanna unlock your screen, you press Esc key to get to the unlock screen window [11:33] well, there's this bug... [11:34] when you press the Esc button, it is automatically entered as the first character of your password [11:35] i almost freaked out when my password didn't work because i didn't notice that one character had already been entered [11:35] okay then i had to delete that stupid character and enter my password... yeah that worked [11:36] please tell me where to file that bug [11:36] Esc should not be regarded as a password character [11:38] ah, forget it... i'll write to the author of xlockmore [12:24] what should i do if i get a read error from swap === totalwor1age is now known as totalwormage [13:06] anyone here had to battle with DRI and/or a Mach64 chip? [13:13] Hello dear friends. xubuntu 8.04 / Turkish locale. After the recent updates (updates of the last 10 days or so) I can not pass the login screen. It keeps on doing something but do not login. I can login as another user. I can reach the terminal as root or as default user. What can I do to fixit? Anyidea? [13:15] o.o :/ Sorry. I have no idea... 'dpkg-reconfigure (your window manager)' maybe? [13:16] as root or as default user? [13:16] as root. But no.. it would be a waste of time.. Hmm lemme think [13:17] just the usual GDM login manager and XFce as the session on all accounts? [13:17] yes. [13:17] * PathagenX scratches his head...... [13:18] Nope. I'm stumped. [13:18] and I am the only one awake [13:18] everyone here is dead.. [13:18] ... reconfig ??? [13:19] i will do that. any harm? [13:19] try dpkg-reconfigure gdm and dpkg-reconfigure xfce4 [13:19] no [13:19] I can't use any DVD+R discs [13:19] thou writer supports + [13:19] thanks a lot. i wil try now. thanks. [13:19] any ideas? [13:19] DVD-R works fine [13:20] The odd thing is that if I put DVD in xfce can see it, but not xfburn nor k3b [13:20] Your system cannot read dvd-R diskd? [13:20] can [13:20] and dvd+ too [13:21] but I can't write to dvd+r [13:21] copying DVD-R works fine [13:21] sudo ln -s /dev/(dvd drive) cdwriter [13:21] sudo ln -s /dev/(dvd drive) dvd [13:21] oops [13:21] sudo ln -s /dev/(dvd drive) /dev/dvd [13:21] sudo ln -s /dev/(dvd drive) /dev/cdwriter [13:22] most burners will look for those so try doing that [13:23] if that fails, open up /etc/fstab and make sure that your dvd drive line's something like: [13:23] /dev/dvddrive /media/somewhere auto user,rw,exec,noauto 0 0 [13:25] the odd thing is, that k3b can see the disc (DVD+R) can understand that it's DVD+R, but when I press burn it says "Please insert complete or appendable DVD+/-R(W) medium..." [13:25] are you sure your disk is blank? [13:26] Yes [13:26] xfce says its blank [13:26] new discs [13:26] so says k3b, that its blank [13:26] hmm, so the burner is having trouble figuring out what format. [13:26] Never mind [13:26] figured out [13:26] typo in symlink [13:26] cool [13:27] ^-^ [13:27] Thanks for help [13:27] np [13:27] btw theres still this Human theme bug [13:28] If i use "Human" as user interface then volume and battery plugins will crash [13:28] I don't care. I use tango + Wonderland (BlueCurve) [13:28] :P [13:28] I think that Human is just another shit Windows crap ripoff. [13:29] :P [13:30] If I wanted my computer to act like I had Vista installed, I'd drop it off my roof, sans orange and brown plastic vomit. ;) [13:30] Vista is like cancer [13:30] Fight as much as you want, but still you die eventually [13:30] No. Cancer has a purpose. [13:38] if I met crash on xubuntu desktop, it's mean the keyboard and mouse no response, sounds like kernel panic. [13:38] how could I check what problem cause it. [13:57] hi, I'm trying to install Xubuntu 8.04 alternate install CD on a CF-card (CF to Ide adapter) ... the guided partitioning made errors so I set up a swap and a root partition ... how can I mount them manually to procede with installing the base system? [13:58] from command line? [13:59] the easiest way is to run gparted, make the partitions, one ext3, one swap. Tell gparted that the ext3 partition is to be mounted as / and you are away [13:59]