| smallfoot- | check out the most awesomeness mockup for colored themes in ubuntu http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/317/coloredthemeyz9.png and if you like that, then vote for it http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9190/ | 18:47 |
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| * thorwil waves to nand | 20:27 | |
| * nand waves back | 20:27 | |
| nand | still no luck :( | 20:27 |
| thorwil | wonder what they are doing all day | 20:28 |
| nand | Well, there was the UDS, it is a valid excuse :) | 20:28 |
| thorwil | nand: got anything out of the UDS for brainstorm/yourself? | 20:28 |
| nand | considering brainstorm, the main wanted thing is an easy way for dev to cherry pick the "feasible" ideas | 20:29 |
| * nand is still thinking on how to do it | 20:29 | |
| nand | and basically it was agreed that feedback to brainstorm is important | 20:30 |
| nand | and we'll try to make ubuntu devs more involved in brainstorm, e.g. via the blog | 20:30 |
| nand | thorwil: btw, any hint on the status of http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/384/ ? | 20:31 |
| nand | I'd like to put some kind of update on this one, or better, ask kwwii to put some comments here | 20:32 |
| thorwil | nand: i don't think you should put out a bait like "Get your artwork on 10 million desktops" | 20:33 |
| thorwil | that wouldn't be fair | 20:34 |
| nand | thorwil: I'm not responsible for the idea content :) But AFAIK, this was discussed and more or less agreed, right? | 20:34 |
| nand | (the deviant art competition part) | 20:34 |
| nand | see attached blueprint | 20:35 |
| thorwil | nand: if it was discussed, i didn't follow it :/ | 20:35 |
| _MMA_ | There's no reason it couldn't happen. Just needs someone to manage it. With the knowledge it won't be default. | 20:35 |
| thorwil | _MMA_ last statement is _very_ important | 20:36 |
| thorwil | oh, blueprint contains: "The winner will be decided by Mark Shuttleworth in August" | 20:37 |
| nand | the fact is, I don't know if this has really started, or not | 20:38 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: Just because the blueprint says it, doesnt make it official. Anyone can write one. | 20:39 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: i know. it stands and falls with Mark's involvment | 20:40 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: I would wadger Mark only cares about default and space willing, Ken can put in the winner. | 20:40 |
| * _MMA_ notices the .tar.lzma archives are unknown and are missing a icon. kwwii: We should get that fixed. | 20:46 | |
| smallfoot- | http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6933/rainbowzz5.png | 21:06 |
| smallfoot- | http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5295/steelif5.png | 21:56 |
| cody-somerville | Heya art folks! :) | 22:09 |
| cody-somerville | Can someone please create some launchpad branding for the Ubuntu News team? | 22:09 |
| _MMA_ | cody-somerville: Talk to thorwil tomorrow. | 22:19 |
| _MMA_ | He's good with things like this. | 22:19 |
| smallfoot- | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9190/ <-- check out cool idea | 22:19 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: still around? | 23:28 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Kinda. Makin' burgers. | 23:29 |
| Cimi | smallfoot-, please, stop it | 23:37 |
| smallfoot- | :( | 23:38 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: Be nice. He's done nothing wrong. | 23:38 |
| smallfoot- | its art-related idea kinda | 23:38 |
| Cimi | _MMA_, spamming since 5 hours | 23:39 |
| _MMA_ | It's spammy but not off-topic. | 23:39 |
| Cimi | smallfoot-, we already read 4 times | 23:39 |
| Cimi | and I agree with you, and I like your colors | 23:39 |
| Cimi | but please stop spamming | 23:39 |
| Cimi | also | 23:39 |
| Cimi | gnome 2.26 will support color schemes | 23:40 |
| Cimi | something selectable trough a combobox etc etc | 23:40 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: ein guten appetit | 23:40 |
| kwwii | enjoy your meal | 23:40 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: PM if needed. | 23:40 |
| kwwii | Cimi: it seems like something decent has come out of the email, eh? | 23:41 |
| Cimi | kwwii, if this will become code well | 23:41 |
| Cimi | otherwise words are totally useless | 23:41 |
| smallfoot- | Cimi, awesome, but when is 2.26 come? | 23:41 |
| Cimi | smallfoot-, march 2009 | 23:41 |
| kwwii | Cimi: I think it just might happen...I am putting in a theme with the current svn snapshot asap | 23:42 |
| smallfoot- | oh | 23:42 |
| smallfoot- | is long time | 23:42 |
| Cimi | smallfoot-, we are currently working on muuuuch better things that you will enjoy much more than your (positive) idea | 23:43 |
| kwwii | Cimi: we should probably talk about how to handle bug reports soon :-) | 23:43 |
| Cimi | kwwii, as I said | 23:43 |
| Cimi | my idea is not to provide it as the default theme | 23:43 |
| Cimi | but installing | 23:43 |
| smallfoot- | Cimi, oh cool, like what? | 23:43 |
| Cimi | smallfoot-, you'll know when something will be out from our hats | 23:44 |
| * Cimi hatttrick ;) | 23:44 | |
| smallfoot- | oh | 23:44 |
| kwwii | Cimi: I think it is so early that we can try it out | 23:46 |
| Cimi | kwwii, what do you mean? | 23:46 |
| kwwii | do things go horribly wrong if it doesn't work? | 23:46 |
| kwwii | including a the murrine snapshot | 23:47 |
| Cimi | kwwii, if neil/mirco will wrote a working patch for the systemtray | 23:47 |
| Cimi | we won't have many issues | 23:48 |
| Cimi | mainly broken applications are abiword/gnumeric (can be easily fixed) | 23:48 |
| kwwii | for now the panel's are still opaque anyway | 23:48 |
| Cimi | maybe (dont know) openoffice | 23:48 |
| kwwii | right, people can report bugs | 23:48 |
| kwwii | not many people are running intrepid yet | 23:48 |
| Cimi | the problem is that from times to times | 23:48 |
| kwwii | OOo seems to work find | 23:49 |
| kwwii | fine | 23:49 |
| Cimi | developer did assume RGB as default | 23:49 |
| Cimi | making things that are not compatible | 23:49 |
| kwwii | execpt the page background seems to be the input box color | 23:49 |
| kwwii | right | 23:49 |
| kwwii | it will come up | 23:49 |
| Cimi | for example | 23:49 |
| kwwii | and we will see how we can fix it | 23:49 |
| Cimi | abiword is incorrectly using a cairo function to clear the background | 23:49 |
| kwwii | but if we don't try now we will never get further | 23:49 |
| Cimi | this means that if you have a RGBA colormap | 23:50 |
| Cimi | the abiword window (page) will become totally transparent (cleared) | 23:50 |
| Cimi | same thing is happening for gnumeric | 23:50 |
| Cimi | btw all we need to do is to patch 1-2 lines of code | 23:51 |
| Cimi | :) | 23:51 |
| Cimi | using cairo_source instead clear | 23:51 |
| Cimi | easy | 23:51 |
| kwwii | so we will have to patch apps that have a problem with gtk-wide transparency | 23:51 |
| Cimi | not just us | 23:51 |
| Cimi | it is a bug of the applications | 23:52 |
| Cimi | they wrote bad code | 23:52 |
| kwwii | Cimi: btw, I will probably be bugging you about gtkrc stuff...is there any info on the current options? | 23:52 |
| Cimi | yeah | 23:52 |
| Cimi | there's a xml | 23:52 |
| Cimi | http://svn.gnome.org/svn/murrine/trunk/schema/murrine.xml.in.in | 23:52 |
| kwwii | I looked through the stuff on the web and it seemed outdated | 23:52 |
| Cimi | and the gradient_stops are deprecated | 23:53 |
| kwwii | erm, so how does that effect gradient drawing? | 23:53 |
| Cimi | if you want (for example) a metal look | 23:54 |
| Cimi | just add | 23:54 |
| Cimi | gradients = { 0.8, 1.0, 1.0, 0.8) | 23:54 |
| Cimi | could work | 23:54 |
| Cimi | IIRC | 23:54 |
| Cimi | > 1 means bright | 23:55 |
| Cimi | <1 dark | 23:55 |
| Cimi | from top to bottom | 23:55 |
| kwwii | right, but I have to understand what each thing does and how it does it | 23:55 |
| kwwii | or at least which values are possible so that I can test it out until I get it | 23:55 |
| Cimi | you should ask me | 23:55 |
| kwwii | hehe, that was exactly my point | 23:56 |
| Cimi | kwwii, they are explained in that xml | 23:56 |
| kwwii | :-) | 23:56 |
| _MMA_ | Documentation is good also. ;) | 23:56 |
| * kwwii looks | 23:56 | |
| kwwii | wow, that is pretty definitve | 23:57 |
| Cimi | that xml sucks | 23:57 |
| Cimi | should be updated | 23:58 |
| Cimi | but I think all options are in | 23:58 |
| kwwii | it allows 4 gradient stops, if I read it correctly | 23:58 |
| Cimi | that is deprecated | 23:58 |
| Cimi | in favour of | 23:59 |
| kwwii | so there are no stops allowed? | 23:59 |
| Cimi | the sintax is different | 23:59 |
| kwwii | or it is done directly in the gtk xml | 23:59 |
| Cimi | let me check the code | 23:59 |
| Cimi | kwwii, that xml is not used in the theme | 23:59 |
| Cimi | is used for documentation | 23:59 |
| kwwii | nahhh...don't worry about it now | 23:59 |
| kwwii | I'll ask once i have a real problem | 23:59 |
| kwwii | let we play with it first | 23:59 |
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