[18:47] check out the most awesomeness mockup for colored themes in ubuntu http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/317/coloredthemeyz9.png and if you like that, then vote for it http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9190/ [20:27] * thorwil waves to nand [20:27] * nand waves back [20:27] still no luck :( [20:28] wonder what they are doing all day [20:28] Well, there was the UDS, it is a valid excuse :) [20:28] nand: got anything out of the UDS for brainstorm/yourself? [20:29] considering brainstorm, the main wanted thing is an easy way for dev to cherry pick the "feasible" ideas [20:29] * nand is still thinking on how to do it [20:30] and basically it was agreed that feedback to brainstorm is important [20:30] and we'll try to make ubuntu devs more involved in brainstorm, e.g. via the blog [20:31] thorwil: btw, any hint on the status of http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/384/ ? [20:32] I'd like to put some kind of update on this one, or better, ask kwwii to put some comments here [20:33] nand: i don't think you should put out a bait like "Get your artwork on 10 million desktops" [20:34] that wouldn't be fair [20:34] thorwil: I'm not responsible for the idea content :) But AFAIK, this was discussed and more or less agreed, right? [20:34] (the deviant art competition part) [20:35] see attached blueprint [20:35] nand: if it was discussed, i didn't follow it :/ [20:35] <_MMA_> There's no reason it couldn't happen. Just needs someone to manage it. With the knowledge it won't be default. [20:36] _MMA_ last statement is _very_ important [20:37] oh, blueprint contains: "The winner will be decided by Mark Shuttleworth in August" [20:38] the fact is, I don't know if this has really started, or not [20:39] <_MMA_> thorwil: Just because the blueprint says it, doesnt make it official. Anyone can write one. [20:40] _MMA_: i know. it stands and falls with Mark's involvment [20:40] <_MMA_> thorwil: I would wadger Mark only cares about default and space willing, Ken can put in the winner. [20:46] * _MMA_ notices the .tar.lzma archives are unknown and are missing a icon. kwwii: We should get that fixed. [21:06] http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6933/rainbowzz5.png [21:56] http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5295/steelif5.png [22:09] Heya art folks! :) [22:09] Can someone please create some launchpad branding for the Ubuntu News team? [22:19] <_MMA_> cody-somerville: Talk to thorwil tomorrow. [22:19] <_MMA_> He's good with things like this. [22:19] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9190/ <-- check out cool idea [23:28] _MMA_: still around? [23:29] <_MMA_> kwwii: Kinda. Makin' burgers. [23:37] smallfoot-, please, stop it [23:38] :( [23:38] <_MMA_> Cimi: Be nice. He's done nothing wrong. [23:38] its art-related idea kinda [23:39] _MMA_, spamming since 5 hours [23:39] <_MMA_> It's spammy but not off-topic. [23:39] smallfoot-, we already read 4 times [23:39] and I agree with you, and I like your colors [23:39] but please stop spamming [23:39] also [23:40] gnome 2.26 will support color schemes [23:40] something selectable trough a combobox etc etc [23:40] _MMA_: ein guten appetit [23:40] enjoy your meal [23:40] <_MMA_> kwwii: PM if needed. [23:41] Cimi: it seems like something decent has come out of the email, eh? [23:41] kwwii, if this will become code well [23:41] otherwise words are totally useless [23:41] Cimi, awesome, but when is 2.26 come? [23:41] smallfoot-, march 2009 [23:42] Cimi: I think it just might happen...I am putting in a theme with the current svn snapshot asap [23:42] oh [23:42] is long time [23:43] smallfoot-, we are currently working on muuuuch better things that you will enjoy much more than your (positive) idea [23:43] Cimi: we should probably talk about how to handle bug reports soon :-) [23:43] kwwii, as I said [23:43] my idea is not to provide it as the default theme [23:43] but installing [23:43] Cimi, oh cool, like what? [23:44] smallfoot-, you'll know when something will be out from our hats [23:44] * Cimi hatttrick ;) [23:44] oh [23:46] Cimi: I think it is so early that we can try it out [23:46] kwwii, what do you mean? [23:46] do things go horribly wrong if it doesn't work? [23:47] including a the murrine snapshot [23:47] kwwii, if neil/mirco will wrote a working patch for the systemtray [23:48] we won't have many issues [23:48] mainly broken applications are abiword/gnumeric (can be easily fixed) [23:48] for now the panel's are still opaque anyway [23:48] maybe (dont know) openoffice [23:48] right, people can report bugs [23:48] not many people are running intrepid yet [23:48] the problem is that from times to times [23:49] OOo seems to work find [23:49] fine [23:49] developer did assume RGB as default [23:49] making things that are not compatible [23:49] execpt the page background seems to be the input box color [23:49] right [23:49] it will come up [23:49] for example [23:49] and we will see how we can fix it [23:49] abiword is incorrectly using a cairo function to clear the background [23:49] but if we don't try now we will never get further [23:50] this means that if you have a RGBA colormap [23:50] the abiword window (page) will become totally transparent (cleared) [23:50] same thing is happening for gnumeric [23:51] btw all we need to do is to patch 1-2 lines of code [23:51] :) [23:51] using cairo_source instead clear [23:51] easy [23:51] so we will have to patch apps that have a problem with gtk-wide transparency [23:51] not just us [23:52] it is a bug of the applications [23:52] they wrote bad code [23:52] Cimi: btw, I will probably be bugging you about gtkrc stuff...is there any info on the current options? [23:52] yeah [23:52] there's a xml [23:52] http://svn.gnome.org/svn/murrine/trunk/schema/murrine.xml.in.in [23:52] I looked through the stuff on the web and it seemed outdated [23:53] and the gradient_stops are deprecated [23:53] erm, so how does that effect gradient drawing? [23:54] if you want (for example) a metal look [23:54] just add [23:54] gradients = { 0.8, 1.0, 1.0, 0.8) [23:54] could work [23:54] IIRC [23:55] > 1 means bright [23:55] <1 dark [23:55] from top to bottom [23:55] right, but I have to understand what each thing does and how it does it [23:55] or at least which values are possible so that I can test it out until I get it [23:55] you should ask me [23:56] hehe, that was exactly my point [23:56] kwwii, they are explained in that xml [23:56] :-) [23:56] <_MMA_> Documentation is good also. ;) [23:56] * kwwii looks [23:57] wow, that is pretty definitve [23:57] that xml sucks [23:58] should be updated [23:58] but I think all options are in [23:58] it allows 4 gradient stops, if I read it correctly [23:58] that is deprecated [23:59] in favour of [23:59] so there are no stops allowed? [23:59] the sintax is different [23:59] or it is done directly in the gtk xml [23:59] let me check the code [23:59] kwwii, that xml is not used in the theme [23:59] is used for documentation [23:59] nahhh...don't worry about it now [23:59] I'll ask once i have a real problem [23:59] let we play with it first