| === AtomicPunk is now known as ToddBrandt | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 06:48 |
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| === doko_ is now known as doko | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| davmor2 | Still no RC release? | 08:38 |
| StevenK | I'm working on it. | 08:39 |
| StevenK | I didn't really want to test my test image at 2:00am this morning, so my testing was delayed until I started working. | 08:39 |
| davmor2 | StevenK: Okay cool any ideas how long before it will be on the server? | 08:43 |
| davmor2 | p.s. Xephyr is more accurate now | 08:44 |
| StevenK | davmor2: Not at this point, sorry. | 08:44 |
| davmor2 | StevenK: Np's I'll carry on testing yesterday image till then can you give me a ping when it's up though please? | 08:45 |
| davmor2 | StevenK: do you a device you could try something on quickly for me please? | 09:19 |
| StevenK | davmor2: I do, but I'm about to head out for about 15, can I ping you when I get back? | 09:20 |
| davmor2 | StevenK: Np's | 09:21 |
| === foka_ is now known as foka | ||
| teletommy | hi | 10:03 |
| davmor2 | hello | 10:04 |
| teletommy | i read about ubuntu mobile and wonder how to install it the right way | 10:05 |
| teletommy | where can i find informations about it? | 10:05 |
| teletommy | the wiki doesn't say much about :-( | 10:05 |
| bpsew | maybe here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/DevelopmentEnvironment | 10:06 |
| davmor2 | teletommy: do you have a device or do you run in vm? | 10:06 |
| teletommy | not now. i will have a car pc | 10:06 |
| teletommy | but my first try will be in a vm | 10:06 |
| davmor2 | teletommy: try the mic instructions here then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/UMEinstall | 10:08 |
| teletommy | thank you for your help! | 10:09 |
| teletommy | what stand UME for? | 10:09 |
| davmor2 | Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded | 10:10 |
| teletommy | ah :-) | 10:10 |
| teletommy | do you think it is a good choice for a carpc? | 10:12 |
| StevenK | davmor2: Where were you after? | 10:12 |
| davmor2 | StevenK: In Office Document Viewer do you get the search window hang. http://www.davmor2.blueyonder.co.uk/odrerror.png | 10:14 |
| davmor2 | sorry http://www.davmor2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/odrerror.png | 10:15 |
| StevenK | davmor2: Not when I ran it on my Menlow earlier | 10:15 |
| davmor2 | StevenK: this might be a xephyr thing that's why I thought I would check. | 10:16 |
| davmor2 | StevenK: also in the root there is a dir called Mydocs but when I downloaded my cv.doc (to test ODR) it dl into root/Documents is this normal? Why is Mydocs not used? | 10:20 |
| StevenK | davmor2: Um, no idea about that, sorry | 10:21 |
| davmor2 | I'll bug that then I'll check the settings in the browser dl manager setting too :) | 10:21 |
| teletommy | davmor2: is it possible to do this usb-pen installation and boot with a normal x86? | 10:45 |
| davmor2 | Pass. I have no device to try this on. UME is really meant for specific devices at this stage in the game though. | 10:46 |
| teletommy | davmor2: which are this specific devices? | 10:49 |
| davmor2 | Samsung Q1U and the menlow platform being created by Intel | 10:50 |
| teletommy | oh ok. And you think it might not run on a normal x86? | 10:52 |
| davmor2 | StevenK: ^ | 10:59 |
| === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away | ||
| bpsew | the configure-script from the mobile-basic-flash sources complains about a missing mozilla-gtkmozembeded-embedding package | 11:20 |
| bpsew | what can i do? | 11:20 |
| bpsew | is there a source for such a package? | 11:20 |
| bpsew | or can i disable the check when running configure? | 11:20 |
| === davmor2_away is now known as davmor2 | ||
| lool | persia: Around? | 13:57 |
| persia | lool: Mostly | 13:58 |
| lool | persia: email | 14:04 |
| lool | persia: We're in the last run before release, and we do miss some bits, so I'm flagging this as URGENT | 14:04 |
| persia | lool: Right. I'll upload tonight then. | 14:05 |
| lool | persia: Ok; if anything gets in the way, please instruct me how to finish :) | 14:06 |
| persia | lool: It's basically just a backport of the branch being merged. Probably fastest for me just to do it, rather than explain it. | 14:06 |
| lool | Ok | 14:06 |
| lool | Could you also seed it? | 14:07 |
| lool | StevenK: Which seed are we using now? Did you move back to the main hardy seed? | 14:07 |
| persia | lool: Right. I knew I forgot something. Which seed? | 14:07 |
| lool | StevenK: I think cjwatson was ok with it, did you discuss this with him? | 14:07 |
| StevenK | lool: We didn't. | 14:08 |
| lool | persia: We used to change the mobile seed in the main bzr branch, ubuntu.hardy in ~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds, but StevenK branched to ~ubuntu-mobile/ubuntu-seeds/mobile.hardy as there was "treb" in the seed which doesn't exist in hardy, but cjwatson said it was fine | 14:08 |
| persia | OK. So update-manager-hildon belongs in ~ubuntu-mobile/ubuntu-seeds/mobile.hardy ? | 14:09 |
| lool | StevenK: Can we change that now? | 14:09 |
| lool | persia: I think that's what in use right now | 14:09 |
| StevenK | lool: To the main hardy seed? I'd rather leave it using that one | 14:09 |
| * persia can't update ~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds, although this oughtn't be a blocker for merge, if merge is otherwise good | 14:09 | |
| lool | StevenK: Why? | 14:09 |
| bpsew | hello | 14:09 |
| bpsew | what are the benefits of ubuntu mobile over google's android? why should i use ume? | 14:10 |
| persia | bpsew: Different targets. Also, Ubuntu Mobile isn't really available enough to have much marketing material at this point: you'll do better to review the code. | 14:11 |
| bpsew | i've played with both of them, but i still can't decide, which one fits better | 14:12 |
| StevenK | lool: Because Colin and I spoke about it, and he was happy with my reasoning | 14:12 |
| lool | StevenK: Which is? | 14:12 |
| StevenK | lool: I didn't want to clutter up the main Hardy seed with stuff that isn't in the archive | 14:13 |
| lool | When I asked the same, he said it was ok | 14:13 |
| lool | Since we have stuff in universe listed there anyway | 14:13 |
| persia | As an aside, if we move towards a more differentiated archive, it will be useful to have separate seeds. | 14:13 |
| StevenK | Colin said he was fine with my reasoning, and to be honest, I'd rather not change it this late. | 14:14 |
| StevenK | persia: Did you fix that gksu keyboard thing? | 14:14 |
| persia | StevenK: Only conceptually. I have the key, but I need to insert the autolauncher call. | 14:15 |
| persia | Are we supporting any devices that don't have keyboards right now? | 14:15 |
| lool | StevenK: Ok; let us leave it like that then | 14:17 |
| lool | Urgh, virtual keyboard doesn't work for me | 14:32 |
| lool | cgregan: Do you have a test case for the virtual keyboard? Could you try to run it? | 14:32 |
| cgregan | lool: sure | 14:34 |
| cgregan | lool: Virt Keyboard works on mccaslin 20080527 | 14:37 |
| lool | cgregan: In which app do you test it? | 14:37 |
| cgregan | browser | 14:38 |
| lool | cgregan: Ah, I'm just stupid; it steals focus when lanching, that was the issue lalala | 14:41 |
| cgregan | lool: :-) | 14:41 |
| GrueMaster | StevenK: Ping - Any eta on RC1? | 16:22 |
| davidm | GrueMaster, it's in progress but until license issue handled we can't give it to you. | 16:25 |
| davidm | Don has to get license issue resolved before we can even provide private build. :-( | 16:26 |
| GrueMaster | ok. Probably a license that we already own. Gotta love proprietary crap. | 16:26 |
| GrueMaster | ready to go otherwise, though? | 16:26 |
| davidm | GrueMaster, gettting close, it's building now. | 16:27 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| cl0s | when i install ubuntu mobile and embedded using xephyr.. is it supposed to look like the screenshots on the site? | 19:00 |
| cl0s | lol my desktop looks nothing like it and the top bar is buttons some with no text, etc.. | 19:00 |
| persia | cl0s: Which screenshot are you using for comparison? | 19:12 |
| cl0s | http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile | 19:16 |
| cl0s | grid layout im guessing? | 19:17 |
| cl0s | the desktop is similiar, as far as how its listed, def not as many programs. | 19:17 |
| persia | cl0s: It ought look something like the topmost screenshot by default. | 19:17 |
| cl0s | but at the top i dont get the home button, i get the date and time and a blank button all the way on the right.. | 19:18 |
| cl0s | instead of the toolbar* | 19:18 |
| cl0s | and its like regular gtk gray not that black with a gradient.. i followed the hildon desktop instructions for xephyr.. | 19:18 |
| persia | cl0s: Hmmm... That doesn't match my experience, but I haven't tried with Xephyr in some time. | 19:19 |
| cl0s | oh.. how do you have it setup?? | 19:19 |
| persia | cl0s: I run it on a SR8, but I've heard it works well in KVM for those with the right hardware (after tweaking the X drivers). | 19:20 |
| cl0s | this is for a regular x86, is there a way i can run it in like virtualbox? | 19:20 |
| cl0s | oo | 19:20 |
| cl0s | whats SR8? | 19:21 |
| persia | cl0s: I've not heard of anyone trying with virtualbox, but it might well work. Just be aware that you may need to manually install an X driver, that touchscreens aren't quite like mice, and that the DPI will be too low. | 19:21 |
| cl0s | sorry im planning on building a mini-itx system for my car, and i was looking at ubuntu-mobile to see if itd be a good start to build a few apps for.. | 19:21 |
| persia | cl0s: There are a couple other people using Ubuntu Mobile for car-mounted devices, although it will need a fair bit of customisation. | 19:22 |
| persia | The SR8 is http://www.kohjinsha.com.sg/products/sr.htm (roughly). | 19:23 |
| cl0s | ahh.. nice | 19:23 |
| cl0s | yea i'm willing to do some customization, i can do the higher level programming but as far as setting up the os for different systems don't really know where to start if its not a debian type of install, lol | 19:25 |
| cl0s | i got the basics setup though its probably just i dont have a theme or something, ill try some more when i get home | 19:26 |
| persia | cl0s: It is a debian-type install. The standard package management tools work just fine. You can do the customisation from a VT. | 19:26 |
| cl0s | sounds good. ill keep messing with it.. | 19:28 |
| persia | cl0s: Good luck. While the primary goal really isn't Car PCs, please let us know if you find something that might also be useful in a handheld during your investigations. | 19:29 |
| cl0s | yea whatever I come up with I plan on posting in launchpad, ill be hanging around here while I work on it | 19:32 |
| cl0s | thanks persia | 19:32 |
| persia | Right. On update-manager-hildon, backporting means pulling just about all the changes, except the comments & some of the dropped Dapper upgrade workarounds. | 22:11 |
| persia | Is there an expected use-case to upgrade to hardy using upgrade-manager within Ubuntu-Mobile? | 22:11 |
| === aTOmicDuDe is now known as ToddBrandt | ||
| * persia assumes that any Gutsy Ubuntu-Mobile users will reflash, and uploads the draft intrepid (and more heavily tested) update-manager-hildon to the PPA. | 23:02 | |
| persia | update-manager-hildon uploaded and seeded. Please test. I'm especially interested if anything breaks due to a misperceived need to dist-upgrade (it oughtn't) | 23:27 |
| cl0s-home | i have ubuntu-mobile installed on xephire per the instructions in the wiki but it seems like the theme is missing... | 23:48 |
| cl0s-home | can i just apt-get that or something? | 23:48 |
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