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asachi07:50
asacjimmy_: cwong1: what is the merge path: mergerc1 -> master -> [hardy, gaston] or ... master -> hardy -> gaston10:09
gnomefreakasac: are you able to push to backports? and do you have a bug for backporting FF3RC1?10:23
asacgnomefreak: did jdong say anything about his plans to backport those?10:24
gnomefreakasac: i havent heard from him but ill do xul and ff if someone can push10:24
asacafaik he has the sufficient privileges to do that10:24
asacgnomefreak: its not a simple task10:25
asacat best synch up with jdong ask most tweaks we needed on last backports should be valid too10:25
gnomefreakwell if i cant find him ill ping crimsun afaik he can still push to backports10:25
asacgnomefreak: i can push, but you have to do it properly :)10:25
asacfor that its easiest to talk to jdong10:26
asaccrimsun doesnt know about these specificfs10:26
gnomefreakasac: properly as in? example i have flash 10 done for hardy and gutsy in my PPA already10:26
gnomefreakhe should hes been pushing to backports for a while10:26
asacgnomefreak: yes. for flash 10 you should talk to crimsun maybe we want to push the fixes that came with it in intrepid to backports too10:27
asacbut for ffox and xul go jdong ;)10:27
asacgnomefreak: i meant ffox+xul specifics; not backports specifics10:27
gnomefreakasac: ok ill ping him again as soon as im done with email and see how he wants to handle ff and xul10:27
asacgood ;)10:28
gnomefreakwe really shouldnt need to backport them since they are security updates for most part.10:28
asacwell, backports is better10:29
asacsecurity doesnt really have a testing stage10:29
gnomefreakno? i thuoght proposed was testing stage?10:30
asacah well10:31
asacsorry, my confusion10:31
asacgutsy was not really supported and -backports worked quite well10:31
asacwe could however consider to sync through -proposed when ffox 3 is final10:32
asaclets keep that on the radar10:32
gnomefreakbackports is fine but security has a better testing period AFAIK10:32
asacgnomefreak: s/security/-proposed -updates/10:32
asacsecurity has no testing period at all10:32
asacits just rolled out10:33
gnomefreakoh thats right10:33
gnomefreakproposed does go to updates10:33
gnomefreakthought it was other way around10:33
gnomefreakbut that sounds right now10:34
[reed]by the time asac gets rc1 out to users, rc2 will be out10:35
[reed]:P10:35
gnomefreakasac: im reading something and wondering if we shouldnt wait for RC2 for gutsy backports, by the looks of it its looking like builds start on tomorrow10:37
asac[reed]: bah!10:37
gnomefreakand QA tomorrow10:37
asacgnomefreak: doing the RC1 work wont hurt the RC2 work10:37
gnomefreakasac: by the tim RC1 gets into backports rc2 will be ready to spin10:38
gnomefreakfrom what i can tell by this email10:38
gnomefreakhe proposed, estimated RC2 schedule is as follows: Code Freeze: Wed, May 28, noon PDT Start Builds: Thu, May 29, early am PDT Start QA: Thu, May 29, noon PDT (as builds become available) QA Complete: Thu, June 510:38
gnomefreakfinal push for RC2 is next week10:39
asacgnomefreak: yeah, jdong can also work on RC2 directly. no need to wait for the release10:39
asacshould be tagged by tomorrow - when builds start10:39
gnomefreakasac: ok but hes been a pain to get intouch with the past week or so10:39
asacgnomefreak: let me know when you see him active10:40
asaci can prod him directly10:40
gnomefreakcrimsun: anything you need for my Flash10 push for hardy and gutsy backports? i have them built on my PPA waiting approval im going through email atm so im not sure if anyone commented on the bug yet but if you can let me know what you need me to do, i know target needs to be changed from hardy to hardy-backports and a bug # added to changelog everything is there i just need to fill in bug # to close it.10:41
gnomefreakasac: i will10:42
gnomefreak:( they are not changing the logo for FF3 anymore10:43
asacwhy would they?10:43
gnomefreakthere were plans to10:45
gnomefreakOn 27-May-08, at 4:37 PM, Omega X wrote:10:45
gnomefreak> >10:45
gnomefreak> > Some time ago Alex Faaborg reported that HicksDesign was working on an10:45
gnomefreak> > updated Firefox logo for the 3.0 release. However, other than a small10:45
gnomefreak> > teaser some time ago, there is zero information on what happened to10:45
gnomefreak> > it.10:45
gnomefreak> >10:45
gnomefreak> > Was this project abandoned?10:45
gnomefreakFor this release, yes.10:45
gnomefreakcheers,10:45
gnomefreakmike10:45
[reed]yeah10:49
gnomefreakasac: how far are you on Hardys RC1?10:53
gnomefreak[reed]: why was it abandoned?10:53
asacgnomefreak: all uploaded10:54
[reed]not abandoned10:54
asacwaiting for langpacks to arrive10:54
[reed]just postponed10:54
gnomefreakasac: ok cool10:54
[reed]until some future release10:54
gnomefreak[reed]: ah ok thanks10:54
[reed]the rough drafts look pretty awesome10:54
[reed]:)10:54
asaci hope that they will enter proposed today10:54
[reed]asac: can you read up on mozilla bug 424626 and see if you can help any?10:55
ubottuMozilla bug 424626 in OS Integration "(linux) Firefox is put into offline mode on startup when user is using PPP and has networkmanager installed" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42462610:56
gnomefreaknot that again :(11:09
asac[reed]: commented ... still have to wade through the complete report ;)11:12
[reed]thanks11:12
gnomefreakwhy are we rejecting confirmed and in progress bugs?11:14
asacgnomefreak: depends on what the bug is11:16
gnomefreakits hes only waiting ~30 days before rejecting bugs11:17
gnomefreaki thought that is why incomplete has a 60 day time11:17
gnomefreakthey are old bugs but would be nice to find out the result. one we sent bug/patch upstream and never heard back freedy never gave link to bug maybe just an email11:18
gnomefreakand this one you marked mt-eval in 02/2007 disable pango better preformance11:19
gnomefreakbug 6484411:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 64844 in firefox "Firefox starts very slowly" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6484411:19
gnomefreakbug 6484411:20
gnomefreakasac: also any chance of geting network manager to not use verbose when shutting down?11:21
gnomefreakthat is strage :(11:22
gnomefreakif you type /win you get info that ive never seen before11:22
gnomefreakbrb smoke11:23
gnomefreakasac: im thinking sometime this week im gonna work on states and tags page. tags: get rid of unused tags  states: example confirm if you think the bug needs to be confirmed please tag bug as mt-confirm than one of the mozilla team members will move it to confirmed or ask for more info before we move to confirm. that will get rid of confusion on how bugs prgress to confirm since people are confused by the wiki and instead of taggi11:52
gnomefreakbut today im gonna be a bit on the busy side with drs. and shit11:52
asacgnomefreak: lets talk about that page first11:54
asaci want to improve the procedure for forwarding bugs upstream in particular11:54
gnomefreakasac: ok thats fine but sooner the better since both pages are outdated and pointing people there isnt helping much. i was looking at sending an email out for a meeting on a few things one being those pages, but pretty much a status meeting11:56
gnomefreakmaybe ill send out email by friday asking for dates and times that people are free other than june 11 24 and 2511:57
gnomefreakbut i have to see when im out of meetings so a round about date can be given so we have starting point11:58
asacgnomefreak: better just ask the most important folks here in channel, then send out a meeting date without asking for input12:01
asacseems more reasonable to do it that way12:01
asacwe are unlikely to get everything right12:01
gnomefreakasac: true12:05
gnomefreakwhen i get home from drs. today ill ask and start there. bug since i may be back a bit on later side maybe wait till tomorrow.12:06
gnomefreakasac: would like to concider moving from mt-eval > mt-upstream asap and than we can look upstream for bug or report as needed. but we can get into more detail in meeting on how to handle all that.12:08
asacthere was some UDS discussion on this. ill come up with a separate document just for how to better organize upstream bug coordination12:11
asacwe want the QA team to get involved in the long run, so we have to tailor our workflows in that direction12:11
gnomefreakok sounds good12:13
gnomefreakasac: people are asking about triaging bug 163481 in #ubuntu-bugs, since your the main n-m dev i relaied to you12:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 163481 in network-manager "Gutsy: USB devices stop working" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16348112:14
gnomefreakok time to get ready to leave. ill see you later12:19
asaccu12:24
armin76bye asac *g*12:30
armin76i'll check if rc1 still gives sigbus on sparc12:31
asaci am here12:33
armin76lies!12:35
armin76i'll file a bug for the hppa thing as well12:36
asacarmin76: do you get a sigbus on sparc on hardy?12:36
armin76i don't remember12:38
armin76i'll try12:40
armin76Setting up firefox-3.0 (3.0~b3~cvs20080101t1000+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) ... <- thats what hardy has12:56
armin76asac: yeah, it does12:59
armin76it doesn't even start12:59
armin76i'll try with intrepid13:00
asacre14:11
armin76bah14:23
armin76i hit bug 23434514:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 234345 in findutils "xargs: xargs.c:443: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23434514:23
armin76asac: fixor14:23
asacarmin76: you need to update your system14:24
armin76thats what i am doing :P14:24
armin76lets see if i'm able to do the chroot from intrepid14:28
asacjt1: there is a bunch of imports waiting for review in https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/midbrowser/+imports14:53
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asacfor now i need to use the product as it will take a while before we can enable midbrowser translations in langpack-o-matic14:54
jtvasac: OK, going to look...14:54
asacjtv: interestingly the other all imported and got auto approved14:54
jtvasac: since this is an original product, that's fine.14:54
asacmaybe because we approved them once14:54
asacgood14:54
jtvasac: turns out that auto-approval doesn't kick in if (1) you upload for a specific template, and (2) the auto-approver doesn't recognize the filename as a language code.14:55
asachmm14:55
asaci uploaded all you see there throgh the same form14:55
asacso (1) isnt the case here14:55
jtvasac: with names like zh-CN (note dash instead of underscore!) it's conservative and assumes it may not be a language code.14:55
asacnot sure why (2) would be a problem ... most likely because of region code14:55
asacyes.14:55
jtvasac: it's the combination that matters.14:56
asacok the pattern matches here14:56
jtvasac: the region code isn't the problem—the dash is!14:56
asachmm ... but importing works ;)14:56
asacah14:56
jtvasac: I'm planning to fix this.  It's a very small tweak to the auto-approval code.14:56
asacok so i can rename it on next upload?14:56
asaccan you approve for now or is that a problem?14:56
jtvasac: you can always do that, and then approval should be automatic.  I'll approve these right now though.14:56
asacgreat14:56
asacas long as the import at least figures the proper locale it should be fine14:57
jtvasac: the fix should even deal with the "es-ES" case (which is really an incorrect language code from our point of view)14:57
asackk14:58
jtvasac: approvals are all done.14:59
asacgreat. thanks14:59
armin76asac: same on intrepid15:47
armin76oh...16:41
armin76asac: fta: remember the hppa failure? sparc had the same issue, mozilla bug 41734516:42
ubottuMozilla bug 417345 in XPCOM "build broken on sparc" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41734516:43
asac_17:37 < asac> jtv: is there a chance that the ui  https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/midbrowser/trunk/+pots/midbrowser isnt  up-to-date?16:43
asac_17:38 < asac> though imported there are a bunch of strings that should be there in theory16:43
asac_17:38 < asac> oh wait ... those make actually sense16:43
asac_17:39 < asac> nevermind16:43
armin76[reed]: ^ should i open a new bug or reopen that one?16:43
asac_armin76: does a similar fix work?16:44
armin76let me try16:44
armin76but it should16:44
armin76unfortunately the only thing mozilla is going to do is ignore those reports, not fix the alignment thing :/16:50
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asacarmin76: why?16:51
asacarmin76: if you have a fix, open a new bug, reference the sparc bug as a blocker for that16:51
asacand let me know.16:51
asacmaybe open an ubuntu bug so we can properly track it here too ;)16:52
armin76because thats what mozilla did for sparc and ia64 :)16:52
armin76https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=30915716:52
asacarmin76: so sparc is broken now?16:57
asacor do you just disagree that removing those warnings was a good thing?16:57
armin76asac: no, sparc was broken because it was spewing those warnings about alignment stuff17:06
armin76so it didn't build, like hppa doesn't now17:07
armin76and considering that sparc and hppa segfault with bad alignments...17:07
armin76but again, mozilla doesn't care, as per comments on bug 41129217:11
armin76mozilla bug 41129217:11
ubottuMozilla bug 411292 in Networking: Cookies "Build failure in cookies on ia64" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41129217:11
[reed]armin76: file a bug18:12
armin76[reed]: i did already, mozilla bug 436133 :)18:21
ubottuMozilla bug 436133 in Networking: Cookies "Cookies build failure on hppa" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43613318:22
[reed]k18:22
[reed]looks good18:23
[reed]ted will get to it18:23
armin76:)18:26
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* asac off doing NM stuff20:19
gnomefreakmozilla 40224022:52
ubottuMozilla bug 402240 in General "[RTL] Need a better way to control the statusbar direction" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40224022:52
gnomefreakhes not here?22:56
gnomefreakJazzva: you here?22:56
Jazzvapresent...22:56
gnomefreakJazzva: the firegpg is in bzr if you want to peek and find out why its not installing. When you have time22:59
gnomefreakJazzva: i left you a note on the bug report that was reported on it not working with mac-intel23:00
Jazzvagnomefreak: Ok, I'll take a look in 10-20 minutes. BTW, I closed that bug report, because it seemed like it's not related to the package, since it's still not in the archives.23:00
gnomefreakJazzva: thats fine23:01
gnomefreaki also left a note i remember reading that it didnt support mac but not sure if they meant intel or pre intel23:01
gnomefreak!info firefox-3.0 hardy23:02
ubottufirefox-3.0 (source: firefox-3.0): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 1001 kB, installed size 3436 kB23:02
gnomefreakhmmmm23:02
gnomefreakJazzva: before i forget here is bzr link https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/firegpg.ubuntu  it has upstream and ubuntu mixed in i have a separate upstream as well23:07
JazzvaI found it ;)... branching23:08
gnomefreakah23:08
gnomefreakholy shit thats alot of deps23:09
Jazzvagnomefreak: Seems that upstream version is 0.4.9, in debian/changelog you're using 0.1 for base version. I think we should go with the current upstream, and just add -0ubuntu1. Also, you're missing a right bracket in LP: #bugnumber, and there's one typo.23:12
gnomefreakdid i?23:12
Jazzvayep23:12
gnomefreaki didnt mean to :(23:12
* gnomefreak not sure wher ei got .1 form23:12
gnomefreakfrom23:12
gnomefreakbut that wont make it fail to install :)23:13
JazzvaIt's no problem...23:13
Jazzvaright, I'm looking at the rest now23:13
gnomefreakits easy enough for me to fix for the build. I dont remember seeing a perminstall postinstall dirs inside debian23:13
JazzvaFor debian/control, I think we're trying to keep the lines at 80 char max. It's not an error, though...23:14
Jazzvaand the same for debian/changelog...23:14
gnomefreakif its over 80 i didnt add anything so the template needs to be fixed (for control)23:15
JazzvaIt's in the description...23:16
JazzvaJust break the lines :)...23:16
gnomefreakah23:20
gnomefreaki have to be stupid as shit tonight. WTH is the "bottom boarder"?23:30
JazzvaMaybe "bottom border"?23:31
gnomefreakJazzva: bug 20507623:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 205076 in firefox-3.0 "Widges in search bar in Firefox 3 are not properly painted" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20507623:36
gnomefreakthat bottom boarder. if you see what they mean please explain23:36
gnomefreakwhen the hell did gmail start using imap :(23:43
gnomefreakbe back in a bit i need to eat dinner.23:50

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