[00:03] sorry guys. I am not getting it to work [00:06] no need to apologize to us :-P [00:08] here is what I have done: cd to the theme folder, sudo tar -zxvf /home/ward/Desktop/81130-Ubuntu Professional v2.tar.gz [00:08] And it won't extract [00:09] you have to escape the spaces [00:10] even though the are in the file name? [00:10] because they are in the filename [00:10] prepend every space with \ [00:10] sudo tar -zxvf /home/ward/Desktop/81130-Ubuntu\ Professional\ v2.tar.gz [00:10] thanks. [00:11] that worked like a charm [00:14] I have another question, I thought that this new theme would just show up in the list. What else do I need to do make it show up? [00:14] !themes [00:14] Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [00:14] !xfcetheme [00:14] Factoid xfcetheme not found [00:17] Sorry, I seemed to get a little happy with the mouse === Thomas is now known as The-kernel [02:08] i installed xubuntu 8.04 on a thinkpad t23, however, i can't get past boot [02:08] i get to the status bar, and it stops about 15% part of the way [03:02] Anyone here have a moment to help a COMPLETE Linux newb who just installed Ubuntu 8 Server? [03:02] I just wanna get a GUI up [03:11] no love? [03:14] randomblink: you have a server and want to install a GUI? [03:29] well [03:29] I have 8 server installed [03:30] I just wanna get my wireless card installed [03:30] I am SO new to Linux that a gui makes the most sense for installing the wireless card === [-Belial-] is now known as DarK-IcE [10:06] how to i find what version of xubuntu i am using? [10:06] Act: 1 [10:08] 3:#ubuntu [10:08] :S [10:17] Hello! [10:45] hello [11:14] hello [11:19] I can't change my screen resolution [11:19] it's hard to browse the forums or find help elsewhere with this resolution.. [11:22] Hannz: try running 'sudo displayconfig-gtk' in a terminal [11:23] TheSheep: uhmm.. that's another problem.. I can't seem to start terminal.. [11:23] TheSheep: everytime i start a terminal, it logs me off to login screen [11:24] Hannz: press alt+f2 and type 'xterm' [11:24] TheSheep: can I start terminal using alt+f2? what's the name of the xubuntu terminal? (it was gnome-terminal at ubuntu) [11:24] sorry [11:25] still typing the question then.. [11:25] okay [11:25] I'm at the terminal [11:26] the screen and graphics preferences are there [11:26] trying to change my settings.. [11:31] TheSheep: okay.. at the graphics card tab, it shows that my card is a s3 trio 3d, the driver is s3virge - s3 virge and trio3d cards [11:32] TheSheep: at the the display tab, my detected display was generic plug n play, which don't have any resolution setting higher than 640x480 [11:36] TheSheep: sorry.. got disconnected.. [11:36] TheSheep: actually, my display are at least 1024x768.. tried the generic monitor 1024x768 model, but the test failed (i can't see the 15secs confirmation window) [11:37] TheSheep: or rather, I saw the window at top left corner of my monitor, half outside the view area [11:38] TheSheep: i can click the keep settings or cancel button, though, just not sure whether i should click on the keep settings button.. [11:39] Hannz: I'm sorry, I don't really know [11:40] TheSheep: okay.. thank you.. i'll try to click the keep settings button and see what happens.. [11:41] TheSheep: by the way, while i was working on the displayconfig-gtk, my terminal shows this messages [11:43] FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.24-17-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): no such device [11:44] do i have to worry about that? [11:44] Hannz: is that a laptop? [11:46] TheSheep: nope.. it's an old desktop: P2-233MHz, 160MB RAM, 20GB HDD.. [11:56] Hannz: then I guess it's normal that it doesn't have a battery [11:58] TheSheep: i'm currently reading some posts at ubuntuforums.com about this.. [11:58] TheSheep: says that it's harmless though.. might as well ignore it.. [12:07] going to restart [12:07] TheSheep: thanks again :) [12:25] Can any one help me i have a pc runing windows xp on witch i have installed sun xvm virtualbox, and on the virtual machine i installed xubuntu 8.04, [12:25] i want to sheare files betuin windows and the guest os xubuntu. [14:23] I have hardy 8.10. I just did the updates from ubuntu repos and it borked my gnome. right after I login with gdm, my entire screen goes white. I have a mouse cursor, but nothing else. help please :) [14:26] hard 8.04; and do you run xubuntu or ubuntu? [14:26] ubuntu. I realize i'm telling a bit of a fib being in here. #ubuntu is much to hectic to get anything done there and I'm up against a deadline :/ [14:27] fair enough [14:27] and yes, 8.04 [14:27] i'd also recommend #ubuntuforums btw, more traffic than here [14:27] ok so maybe press ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 [14:27] that will drop you down to a terminal [14:27] then login [14:27] yep. I'm there [14:27] and type startx [14:27] see what that does [14:28] X is already running [14:28] ps ax I have X, gnome, compiz, even gkrellm [14:28] so startx gives the same result as logging in [14:28] no, "server is already active for display 0" [14:28] oh [14:29] well type ps -e | grep *x* [14:30] anything specific we need from here? lots of output [14:30] ok try ps -e | grep x [14:30] i want you to kill your xserver [14:30] i forget what it's called though :p [14:30] and i'm not on a gnu/linux box atm [14:30] can do [14:31] like sudo killall X [14:31] or sudo killall xorg [14:31] something like that [14:33] back to gdm (which works just fine, btw) [14:33] sudo killall gdm [14:33] heh [14:34] while I'm here, can I change anything (without login in thru gdm) to disable compiz? My guess is that compiz is the demon here [14:34] i don't think so, but honestly don't know... i'm not sure how ubuntu configures compiz [14:34] you could try clicking the "session" button [14:35] and see if it gives a "gnome-metacity" option [14:35] but anywho, drop down to a terminal and sudo killall gdm [14:35] i want to see what happens when you run X from a terminal [14:36] getting close now... a couple of updates: [14:37] startx w/o gdm exhibits the same behavior (white screen). restarting gdm... using "gdm failsafe" option makes gnome work just fine (no white screen) [14:37] I'm looking for a gui way to disable compiz atm [14:42] aanderse: yep. that did it [14:43] seems that compiz (or "Visual Effects", as ubuntu calls it) was the culprit [14:43] ah [14:43] tyvm for help, aanderse :) made my morning a whole lot less hectic [14:43] good good [14:51] Speckal: I had that after the Kernel update from the weekend (2.6.24-17). I had to press ESC and go back to the -16 kernel [16:17] I am looking for the wbar. Anyone know where I can get it and good install instructions? [16:26] morning thinkmassive [16:26] good morning [16:27] I want to thank you for your help yesterday with installing tar balls. I have another question if you are game? [16:28] I'm at work but I'll help when I can [16:29] don't ask to ask, just ask [16:29] there are 60 other people here [16:30] I am looking for wbar. I have found a site that has it but no install directions. I have looked but can't find easy to understand directions. Do you have exoperience with this? [16:32] haven't heard of it but it looks like there's chatter about it on freshmeat and googlecode [16:32] I'd start there [16:34] squirkey: why not AWN or Kiba-Dock? [16:35] Thanks thinkmassive [16:36] michaelramm, I see that awn is in the repos. I can't see to get it running though. [16:37] squirkey: explain? I am confused by your last stmt. [16:37] I used the synaptic package mgr to download and install it. found it in accessories, clicked it and ran it. Nothing happened [16:47] squirkey: awn requires gnome [16:48] squirkey: at least the version that is in the repositories [16:49] TheSheep, what can I do to get it to run in xubuntu? [16:49] squirkey: there is a desktop-agnostic development branch [16:49] squirkey: but not sure how advanced the development is [16:49] what? [16:50] last time I checked it required patching and compiling xfwm4 [16:50] michaelramm: you said you had the white screen problem. did you try disabling "Visual Effects" (compiz)? [16:51] woohoo [16:51] no, i saw that earlier. I reverted back to the -16 kernel and was working again [16:51] go go gadget stealing k apps and using them in XFCE cause I'm lazy [18:04] hi, is the official powerpc version of xubuntu hardy out yet? [18:04] i can't seem to find it in the release pages [18:05] I don't believe there is an 'official' version [18:05] there is a "daily build" from april [18:05] but it isn't labelled hardy heron [18:12] Does default Xubuntu have any fully compatible ODS viewer without installing extra software? [18:12] Installing OO.o isn't an option. [18:12] Suggest installing OO.o and you get permanently painted as either a troll or a retard. [18:13] (waits for the "why not install OO.o?" in 5...) [18:13] Note: I can spare like 10mb, 20 at most for extra software. Got Amarok already. [18:13] I doubt it is possible to have any 'fully compatible' application [18:13] As in, fully viewing ODS documents. [18:14] fully compatible means feature-identical [18:14] It's supposed to be an OSS standard or something, instead I can view my documents with formatting with nothing. [18:14] at least in my opinion [18:14] I did say "ODS viewer" [18:14] Not "ODS editor" [18:15] abiword with plugins is decent... not fully compatible, though [18:15] I need formatting. All of it. [18:15] k [18:15] I'm migrating this *confidential* data to html [18:15] (so that strips out web-based interfaces) [18:16] http://opendocumentfellowship.com/odfviewer ? [18:16] I don't believe anything exists that is 100% or even 90% compatable that isn't OO [18:17] Gnumeric has everything but formatting [18:17] And seeing a major part of the data is color-coded... [18:17] As in entry value in the front, entry type color-coded. [18:18] :\ [18:19] Fortunately, apparently I have been wiser than I expected. [18:19] An excel '97 file with the exact same data. [18:20] It's still like 10 megabytes of data, all text, to be migrated by hand though [18:20] *siiigh* [18:23] And it's IP data so no recruiting random help. [18:23] (Not IP as in Internet Protocol - IP as in Intellectual Property) [18:24] you mean imaginary property don't you? [18:24] :) [18:26] I do mean intellectual property. [18:26] Unreleased works, too. [18:26] most of it my intellectual property to boot. [18:27] Where I don't agree with the current abuses I do agree with the core concept. [18:27] (I don't, btw, care if some college kid copies this without paying me *once* it's released) [18:30] (But I'd be highly upset of leaks before it is and someone copying it for money after.) [18:34] taza: is installing only openoffice.org-calc out of the question? [18:34] it's only 15.6MB [18:35] before dependencies [18:36] thinkmassive: Before dependencies [18:37] borrow a laptop from a friend, throw a livecd on it, and get a 1gb usb stick [18:37] well you didn't list all of your installed packages [18:37] if it's IP then there's money behind it [18:37] i'm sure you can buy a 1gb usb stick, or rent a laptop ? [18:38] aanderse: You know between nothing and nothing. [18:38] but you raise a good point.... there should be a ods program that can run on xfce... [18:38] taza: maybe you should clarify what it is you're trying to do before knocking down suggestions like that [18:38] yeah in no way was i insulting you there, i was trying to offer up a suggestion [18:38] thinkmassive: "Buy more hardware because you must be rich for doing work on IP"? [18:39] you're here for help, right? [18:39] a 1gb flash? [18:39] wtf how poor are you [18:39] a 1gb usb stick is pretty cheap [18:39] apparently you think you have enough of something to act like a prick [18:39] Actually I have several flash sticks with enough space. [18:39] so explain what your problem is [18:39] I'd have to buy or rent a laptop [18:39] tguys, this channel is family friendly [18:39] For that. [18:39] you can take your name calling somewhere else [18:40] taza: the answer to your question is: no [18:41] TheSheep: Thanks, gotta just wait 'till I have access to the main server. [18:41] what are you trying to do? present some data? [18:41] you haven't even stated a problem yet [18:41] I did ages ago [18:42] you said you want a ods viewer that isn't OOo [18:42] Yes, for migrating data that is color coded away from OOo to HTML [18:42] that's not a problem [18:42] why can't you use OOo? [18:42] space? [18:42] taza: sorry if you thought i was trying to be a prick, just thought maybe you could bororow a laptop from a buddy... my apologies [18:42] you just said you have usb keys [18:42] Thank heavens for ignore [18:42] I'm just trying to establish what the real problem is [18:43] taza: ods is just zipped xml, you might be able to write a conversion utility [18:43] Suggest installing OO.o and you get permanently painted as [18:43] either a troll or a retard. [18:43] TheSheep: I can extract the requisite data from several files [18:43] taza: put down your paint [18:43] TheSheep: Eh? [18:43] haha ok, one less person I'll help in the future and not a bad thing in my eyes [18:44] and turn aaround slowly, so that I can see your hands [18:44] ... [18:44] I was just copy-pasting what I said earlier [18:44] http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [18:44] taza: it was just as offensive when you said it earlier as it is now [18:44] did everyone got their answers already? can we finish this? [18:45] zoredache: I don't think it's offensive at all [18:45] zoredache: I told a question would instantly get you painted as something because it wouldn't be in the least helpful. [18:46] taza: do you need to ask about something more? [18:46] taza: you effort would have been better spent explaining why openoffice wouldn't work for you [18:46] Some help on shell script text variable expansion would be useful [18:46] zoredache: That leads to a looong string of stupid questions I've heard before. [18:46] !ask [18:46] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [18:48] zoredache: "My current hardware has a real problem with non-tmpfs space usage" "Get 500gb SATA harddrive, they're cheap nowadays" "well stop using stupid hardware" "Who thought of that?" "Loan a computer" [18:48] did everyone think it was silly to suggest borrowing a laptop from a friend and throwing a livecd on it? [18:48] Well I did, because you should never expect someone to have a friend with some resources [18:49] I mean, if you did that you might take it to the extreme and expect everyone has a friend who knows the answer and they're just being mean asking difficult things on IRC. [18:49] taza: it seems like you came here expecting to be attacked [18:49] TheSheep: This is an Ubuntu channel. [18:49] taza: no, it's #xubuntu [18:49] An Ubuntu channel means all channels for all ubuntu derivatives. [18:50] I can pretty safely expect people asking questions a million times after I've explained they aren't relevant to the problem. [18:50] taza: anyways, you need to aks your question to get an answer, random complaining won't do :) [18:50] How do I expand variables in shell for the purposes of cp? [18:50] well, you just write $variablename [18:50] Basically, I need to expand a variable in a while loop to get the current phrase for a part of a filename [18:51] taza: did you try an oo.o channels as well yet? someone there may have heard of a similar problem? [18:51] taza: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [18:51] I need to expand at least five such variables in a single name [18:51] aanderse: Please. I dread Ubuntu channels, I don't go near OO.o or wikipedia channels. [18:52] There is something about the culture of the followers of such projects that is incompatible with my psyche. [18:52] taza: oh, sorry... never been on an oo.o channel [18:53] TheSheep: I already tried the $variable approach, and it failed. I need $variable$variable2$variable3.extension [18:55] can you give us an example of a command you are trying to use? [18:55] taza: works for me: for i in foo bar baz; do for j in 1 2 4; do echo $i$j; done; done [18:55] cp blank.jpg $variable1$variable2divider$variable3.extension [18:56] That was supposed to be blank.example but bah [18:57] you might try ${variable1}${variable2}divider${vairable3} [18:57] taza: for i in foo bar baz; do for j in 1 2 4; do echo "$i"divider"$j"; done; done [18:58] :) [18:58] or what zoredache says [18:58] Note: It leaves the divider and either variable 2 or 3 out [18:58] $[variable2] $[variable3] worked [18:58] Now, how do I include a zero before a less than 10 number there? [18:59] Because name1divider1.example works badly when it's supposed to go to eleven. [18:59] well, juz write them this way [19:00] They're the integer controlling the whileloop [19:00] for i in 01, 02, 03... [19:00] Me space, ist broke [19:00] 01 02 03, sorry [19:00] they are just strings [19:01] you might have to do it as two steps one step to use printf to get the padded name [19:01] blah=`printf '%04d\n' '23'` [19:01] Would defining $variable4 and $variable5 as "0" if the value is under 10 and "" if it's over 9 work? [19:02] Also "Gah I haven't done any bash scripting in a year and I completely forgot it" [19:02] so printf '%02d' '3' would return '03''` [19:07] Would definining a variable as "" work when including it in a string? [19:07] As in, trying to fetch that variable returning nothing, resulting in no change? [19:18] Apparently it works. w00t [19:24] Also, horrible hack [19:24] How glad I was to rm that script after it had served it's purpose [19:24] hey all! I have an issue here that is driving me nutts. I have a latop with an Intel 945GM, in gnome I get 1400X1050 no issues. Switch to xfce and I'm forced into 1280X1024. I'm using the i810 driver however I'm not convinced it's installed correctly based on lshw saying display is "Unclaimed" [19:25] when I tell xfce to go 1400x1050 I get one of those old school oversized desktops where I need to mouse over the edges to see the rest of the desktop... [19:27] Well, I've gotten everything I wanted [19:27] So I shall bid you farewell [19:28] v0lksman: try playing with displayconfig-gtk [19:29] TheSheep: yeah that's what I was playing with that provides the larger desktop but requires that I scroll to get the edges [19:29] scroll=mouse to edge [19:31] gonna reboot to try something...thanks anyways... [20:32] therms does your motherboard support dual channel ram [20:32] wrong channel [20:33] aroo, :) [20:54] Ii have installed xubuntu on an old laptop, but it only uses a small part of my screen (about half the size, in the center of the screen). It also does this when booting windows, but once windows is loaded it uses my full screen. Any ideas on how can I make this work in xubuntu? [20:55] most likely your video adapter wasn't detected and your computer has choose to use a resolution smaller then the optimum res for the display [20:56] I'm quite new to linux, what does that mean? Do I need drivers or something? [20:57] maybe... If your laptop video card is supported you may be able to forse things to work by running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' in a terminal/shell [20:57] ok [20:59] actually it changed in the latest *buntu release [20:59] you have to use xrandr now [20:59] ok [20:59] do you know what version you got? [21:00] 7.10 or 8.04? [21:00] 8.04 [21:00] what kind of laptop is it? [21:00] A Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600 [21:06] what does xrandr do? [21:06] hello [21:06] xrandr changes the screen resolution used by X [21:07] yeah, not so much [21:07] man xrandr [21:08] Should i use --fb? It refuses to use that [21:08] my computer keeps randomly rebooting and i'm not having much luck diagnosing it. the logs aren't telling me anything useful, except that the computer is rebooting. any advice? [21:08] jake_: maybe it's a heat issue? [21:09] FrederikVds: you might be able to specify a different video mode through grub [21:09] i thought it was that, but i have a case with several fans and recently replaced my stock intel cpu fan with a far more effective one. [21:09] didn't seem to help. [21:09] ok i'll check [21:09] jake_: too many fans drawing too much power when things heat up? [21:10] perhaps. what components do i need to be especially concerned about getting too hot? the cpu should be fine. [21:11] cpu, northbridge, video, hdd... [21:11] Anyone with experience on installing i8kfans in Xubuntu? I get all kinds of errors. [21:11] Please help me. It's very tireful to keep the CPU cool with mouth to heatsink method... [21:11] atm i'm using integrated video and the hard drive has a fan right next to it. [21:11] what is the northbridge? [21:12] it connects your cpu to ram and video, usually has a heatsink on it near the cpu [21:12] there should be a pic of the mobo in your manual [21:12] that's really a long shot though [21:13] I'd help more but I've got too much work, bbl [21:13] alright, i'll consider that. thanks. [21:19] when i do dpkg-reconfigure, i assume i have to restart X? how can i do that without rebooting? [21:19] Help me with http://people.debian.org/~dz/i8k/ please! [21:19] I hate it when they assume one to know how to compile and install. :( [21:21] FrederikVds: press ctrl+alt+backspace [21:21] this will end your session though [21:21] ok [21:21] so make sure you save any documents you are working on [21:22] KOJV: one sec, let me see [21:23] KOJV: that util is *really* old [21:25] KOJV: what computer do you have? a dell notebook? [21:25] aanderse, yes an Inspiron 8200. Got a better software to control the fans? [21:26] no, researching this tool though [21:26] aanderse, please let me know if you can make it install / run. [21:27] aanderse, which very much oughta be possible, I just don't know how. makefile install just gives me a huge bunch of errors. [21:27] sure, what happens when you type "make" ? [21:28] oh, ps [21:28] did you know there's a package already in ubuntu?? [21:29] aanderse, to control the fans? No, which one? [21:29] type sudo apt-get install i8kutils [21:29] that very utility you're trying to compile! [21:29] aanderse: that package cannot be found, it says. [21:30] do you have the universe repositories enabled? [21:30] No, how? [21:30] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i8kutils [21:31] I've got the main and universe resps active, [21:31] you're using xubuntu, i assume, right? [21:31] Yes. [21:31] xubuntu 8.04 ? [21:31] yep [21:31] ok type sudo apt-get install i8kutils [21:32] Package not found... [21:32] ok [21:32] type [21:32] cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep universe [21:33] aanderse: I don't understand the output. [21:34] i was hoping you would send me the output :) [21:34] aanderse: i can't find that package in the same distro version [21:34] have enabled all the repos [21:34] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i8kutils [21:34] well it's there... [21:34] i don't have my computer with me right now, at work... [21:35] i'll ssh into our linux server and see... [21:35] oh [21:35] wait [21:35] it's gutsy, not hardy [21:35] uh [21:35] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15404/ [21:35] :) [21:35] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15404/ [21:36] and also only on i386, probably this would be the issue [21:36] oh... [21:36] KOJV: type uname -a and give me the output please [21:36] are you running a 64bit xubuntu? [21:37] aanderse: no 32. [21:37] ok well i'll run you through installing it manually, just paste what i'm saying here [21:37] hi [21:37] open a terminal and ... [21:37] wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/i8kutils/i8kutils_1.27_i386.deb [21:37] Linux ellenor-laptop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux [21:38] Uhm... now I'm not sure. [21:38] that will download the package for you [21:38] then you can type sudo dpkg -i i8kutils_1.27_i386.deb to install it [21:39] Package installer says Dependency is not satisfiable: tk8.4|wish [21:39] ok, not a problem [21:40] sudo apt-get install tk8.4 [21:40]