yuriy | it's normal for shutdown and restart not to be available in the log out dialog when not using KDM right? | 01:30 |
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yuriy | (looking at bug 204752) | 01:32 |
ubottu | yuriy: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out | 01:32 |
dvoid | is there any kde 4.0.80 packages available anywhere yet? | 01:33 |
Jucato | dvoid: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.05.28/hardy-kde-41-beta-packages-soon/ | 01:34 |
dvoid | Jucato, :) tanx | 01:35 |
dvoid | to bad they are not avaiable yet though, i guess it takes some time to make the kde 4 packages play nice with kde 3? | 01:40 |
lnxkde | guys | 02:36 |
lnxkde | any iea when we will have a kde4.1 beta build for kubuntu? | 02:36 |
Jucato | lnxkde: <Jucato> dvoid: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.05.28/hardy-kde-41-beta-packages-soon/ | 02:37 |
* Jucato wonders if it can't be put on the topic :) | 02:38 | |
Jucato | (or maybe it's in the #kubuntu-kde4 topic) | 02:38 |
lnxkde | lol | 02:38 |
lnxkde | sorry | 02:38 |
lnxkde | but KDE 4.1 look nice | 02:38 |
lnxkde | :) | 02:38 |
Jucato | s/look/is/ | 02:39 |
lnxkde | :) | 02:41 |
nixternal | hey, if you want to promote santiago-ve for Ubuntu membership, get in #ubuntu-meeting now and speak it loud!!! | 02:50 |
santiago-ve | thanks nixternal | 02:53 |
nixternal | everyone is prolly sleeping | 02:53 |
jjesse | when are kde 4.1 packages going to land in ubuntu | 02:53 |
* jjesse ducks | 02:53 | |
lnxkde | lol | 02:53 |
bddebian | Right after the Hurd 1.0 release ;-P | 02:54 |
jjesse | evening nixternal | 02:54 |
jjesse | :) | 02:54 |
JontheEchidna | kdelibs are already in the backports, but not much else afaik | 02:54 |
Jucato | jjesse: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.05.28/hardy-kde-41-beta-packages-soon/ | 02:54 |
* Jucato quacks | 02:54 | |
jjesse | Jucato: i know i read the blog entry' | 02:54 |
jjesse | just being a bastard | 02:54 |
* Jucato was also being a bastard :) | 02:54 | |
Jucato | hence the "quacks" :) | 02:54 |
Jucato | (as a reference to "ducks") | 02:54 |
jjesse | :) | 02:54 |
* JontheEchidna was actually trying to be informative <.< | 02:54 | |
jjesse | morning Jucato btw | 02:54 |
nixternal | Jucato: are you linking everyone who joins the channel to that? | 02:54 |
Jucato | nixternal: everyone who asks | 02:55 |
lnxkde | nixternal, u from illinois? | 02:55 |
nixternal | I sure am lnxkde | 02:55 |
nixternal | Chicago | 02:55 |
Jucato | and for fun, I paste the names of those who asked. so by the end of the day, they'll know how many times it has been asked :) | 02:55 |
Jucato | so the next one who asks will have "<Jucato> lnxkde: <Jucato> dvoid: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.05.28/hardy-kde-41-beta-packages-soon/" | 02:55 |
Jucato | oh wait... | 02:55 |
Jucato | jjesse: <Jucato> lnxkde: <Jucato> dvoid: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.05.28/hardy-kde-41-beta-packages-soon/ | 02:56 |
Jucato | there... | 02:56 |
lnxkde | nice, I just saw my aunt that is from Chicago to | 02:56 |
nixternal | were you up here in Chicago? | 02:56 |
lnxkde | no he was here in Puerto Rico | 02:56 |
lnxkde | :s | 02:56 |
lnxkde | I am planning on going there soon though | 02:56 |
lnxkde | but I need to work on my money gathering first lol | 02:57 |
Jucato | "he"? | 02:57 |
nosrednaekim | hey lnxkde, never seen you around.... | 02:57 |
lnxkde | me | 02:57 |
Jucato | nosrednaekim: welcome to the Planet :) | 02:57 |
nosrednaekim | thank you thank you | 02:57 |
lnxkde | heh I have been here long time.... since the 6.06 days but I come and go | 02:58 |
lnxkde | depends on my workload | 02:58 |
nosrednaekim | at least you didn't make any embarrassing comments about how young I looked :P | 02:58 |
Jucato | yeah he's a familiar git | 02:58 |
Jucato | er.. nick | 02:58 |
lnxkde | :s | 02:58 |
Jucato | nosrednaekim: I was about to comment on your hair | 02:58 |
Jucato | nosrednaekim: but how young/old are you? | 02:58 |
nosrednaekim | 18 | 02:59 |
lnxkde | I am 21 | 02:59 |
Jucato | eeeek | 02:59 |
Jucato | nixternal: you are getting old(er)... | 02:59 |
Jucato | geeks are getting younger and younger | 02:59 |
nosrednaekim | my brother... a Gentoo Developer, is 16 | 02:59 |
nosrednaekim | soo... yeah | 02:59 |
Jucato | sh*t :/ | 02:59 |
lnxkde | hehe I satrted with linux in fall 2000 with the Mandrake 7.2 :D | 03:00 |
bddebian | Screw all of you :) | 03:00 |
lnxkde | lol | 03:00 |
lnxkde | gentoo dev at 16 wow | 03:00 |
* Jucato is almost 25... started w/ Linux only in 2006 | 03:00 | |
Jucato | I basically didn't know of Linux until Dec 2005 | 03:00 |
lnxkde | but u a dev right? | 03:00 |
Jucato | so-so :) | 03:00 |
lnxkde | that is the important thing to contribute... I have done nothing.... | 03:01 |
Jucato | hehe true that :P | 03:01 |
Jucato | ok.. I'm off for some dose of Windows-only gaming | 03:01 |
nosrednaekim | I started using linux when I was like 8.... my dad has used it since the pre-1.0 days | 03:01 |
lnxkde | nice | 03:01 |
Jucato | lucky you | 03:02 |
lnxkde | nixternal, so Chicago could tonight? | 03:02 |
nosrednaekim | so if any of your see any bash scripts or such coming out of "me".... its really my dad ^_^ | 03:02 |
lnxkde | cold* | 03:02 |
Jucato | I guess my particular situation wasn't really conducive for finding out about Linux early on | 03:02 |
* santiago-ve ran out of cofee | 03:03 | |
santiago-ve | lol | 03:03 |
lnxkde | :s | 03:04 |
* lnxkde ran out of.... IDK | 03:05 | |
nosrednaekim | words... aparently | 03:05 |
lnxkde | lol | 03:05 |
nixternal | everyone welcome santiago-ve!!! he is a new Ubuntu Member!!! | 03:05 |
nosrednaekim | whooo! hey santiago-ve! | 03:05 |
Jucato | welcome santiago-ve | 03:05 |
lnxkde | welcome | 03:05 |
nosrednaekim | santiago-ve: what do you do? | 03:05 |
* Jucato ran out | 03:05 | |
santiago-ve | nixternal, nosrednaekim, Jucato thanks! | 03:07 |
vorian | w00 h00 santiago-ve | 03:15 |
* vorian is late | 03:15 | |
nosrednaekim | santiago-ve: so what do you work on? | 03:16 |
santiago-ve | hehe vorian better late than never tehy say | 03:16 |
santiago-ve | nosrednaekim, what do you mean? | 03:16 |
vorian | :) | 03:17 |
nosrednaekim | what did you do to become a member? programming... user support... | 03:17 |
santiago-ve | nosrednaekim, advocacy mostly~ | 03:17 |
nosrednaekim | ah ok, cool | 03:17 |
effie_jayx | santiago-ve, show me your intrepid pbuilder log | 03:18 |
effie_jayx | santiago-ve, get hacking boyo | 03:18 |
jjesse | you show me your pbuilder and i'll show you mine | 03:18 |
nosrednaekim | so me your pbuilder.... and i'll show you yo mama's | 03:18 |
jjesse | my moma is dead | 03:19 |
jjesse | just kidding on that | 03:19 |
jjesse | :) | 03:20 |
jjesse | wow that caused the channel to go dead quite | 03:23 |
jjesse | sorry bout taht | 03:23 |
nosrednaekim | haha | 03:25 |
jjesse | ;) | 03:27 |
jjesse | oh well | 03:27 |
nixternal | omg I am an idiot | 03:35 |
nosrednaekim | ? | 03:36 |
nixternal | I have been waiting to see kdepimlibs build on LP | 03:36 |
nixternal | only problem | 03:36 |
nixternal | I didn't upload to PPA just yet | 03:36 |
nixternal | derr | 03:36 |
nixternal | I was losing my mind looking for the damn package in the PPA | 03:36 |
nosrednaekim | ^_^ | 03:36 |
nosrednaekim | ok.. later guys | 03:40 |
nosrednaekim | gotta go to bed early... job interview tomorrow | 03:41 |
jjesse | good luck with the interview | 03:41 |
nixternal | hehe, I have an interview tomorrow as well :) | 03:43 |
vorian | uh oh | 03:50 |
vorian | fail fail fail | 03:51 |
jjesse | i didn't do it :) | 03:51 |
vorian | pimlibs? | 03:51 |
nixternal | ya, I killed pimlibs due to a bad copy/paste on a line break | 04:18 |
nixternal | that is what I get for using Gnome | 04:18 |
yuriy | :O | 04:20 |
yuriy | !nixternal | 04:20 |
ubottu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! | 04:20 |
yuriy | s/Vista lover/gnomey | 04:20 |
nixternal | shush :p | 04:20 |
nixternal | I like to build in gnome as I don't have to worry about my local stuff getting involved | 04:20 |
* Jucato could probably now have a factoid about his XP gaming usage... | 04:20 | |
nixternal | a chroot on my system is just to slow when it comes to building | 04:20 |
nixternal | Jucato: what game? | 04:21 |
Jucato | Asian MMORPGs | 04:21 |
Jucato | that don't run in Wine because of an "anti-hacking" tool GameGuard | 04:21 |
Jucato | (stupid...) | 04:21 |
Jucato | not only is it the only reason why these games don't run in Wine (they run w/o it), but it also gives "hacking" a wrong definition... | 04:22 |
nixternal | go figure | 04:22 |
flaccid | lets be revolutionary and make samba server install and config and option in the kubuntu installer and if yes ask to install minimal iptables! ? | 05:11 |
santiago-ve | flaccid, you mean a ksystemconf module? | 05:15 |
flaccid | im not sure what it would be, but the installer would ask if they want to install and setup samba if they say yes it will ask/setup iptables as well | 05:16 |
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* nixternal finally beds after a long day of kde*libs and wiki editing | 08:25 | |
nixternal | yay interview in a few hours!!! | 08:25 |
Tm_T | yay | 08:33 |
mhb | interview? | 08:39 |
Tm_T | hi slougi | 09:29 |
slougi | hi =) | 09:29 |
slougi | was just wondering whether someone could help me confirm a bug in the systemsettings printer manager | 09:29 |
slougi | i get the following when i select it: | 09:30 |
slougi | QObject::connect: No such slot KMMainView::slotServerAccessConfigure() | 09:30 |
slougi | QObject::connect: (sender name: 'server_access_configure') | 09:30 |
slougi | QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'MainView') | 09:30 |
slougi | and it doesn't work | 09:30 |
slougi | (it fails to set up the print server connection or something) | 09:30 |
slougi | adding a printer for example fails | 09:31 |
Riddell | KDE 3? | 09:32 |
slougi | yep | 09:32 |
slougi | a bit miffed since i had to install gnome-cups-manager to configure the printer :) | 09:33 |
Riddell | I don't have KDE 3 installed now, but I've not seen any problems with the printer module when I had | 09:37 |
slougi | hmm. interesting, especially since this would be an actual bug in the c++ code rather than a config issue. | 09:37 |
seezer | slougi: any special type of printer? installed one direct tcp and one shared cups printer without a problem with the current kde3 version (hardy) | 09:59 |
stdin | slougi: I do see that | 10:00 |
slougi | seezer: i tried installing an ipp printer. do you also get the connect error? | 10:00 |
seezer | slougi: i'll verify after my doc visit | 10:01 |
seezer | about an hour | 10:01 |
slougi | ok | 10:01 |
seezer | ah. i'll do it right now. did you call the manager from console or where do you get the errors listed= | 10:02 |
seezer | s,=,?, | 10:02 |
slougi | seezer: yeah, they go to stdout | 10:03 |
slougi | i just ran systemsettings and selected printer | 10:04 |
seezer | ok, verified ;) | 10:04 |
slougi | cool ;) | 10:04 |
seezer | but the printer removal&readd worked anyway | 10:07 |
slougi | hrm | 10:07 |
slougi | i'll get the exact error message, one moment | 10:07 |
slougi | btw, after i click administrator mode and add->printer, the printer part locks up for a while | 10:08 |
seezer | didn't use admin mode here | 10:08 |
slougi | right | 10:09 |
slougi | i thought that was needed to add printers, guess i was wrong | 10:09 |
slougi | when i get to the printer test page and try to print a test page i get "Unable to create temprorary printer." | 10:10 |
seezer | have to see my doc now. gonna be back in a while. see you then | 10:10 |
slougi | ok | 10:10 |
seezer | ah could be that i had that before - didn't try to print right now | 10:10 |
slougi | when i click through to the end and press finish i get "Unable to create printer. Error message received from manager: The requested operation cannot be completed." | 10:10 |
seezer | but perhaps admin mode _is_ needed | 10:10 |
slougi | ok | 10:11 |
seezer | ah ok didn't get that. added finally. but perhaps because the exact same printer (incl. name) existed before? | 10:11 |
seezer | anyway, bbl | 10:11 |
slougi | nope, different name | 10:12 |
slougi | i got that even when i had no printers (apart from the default pdf etc.) | 10:12 |
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Hobbsee | nixternal: already responded, vistalover. | 11:57 |
* Hobbsee wonders if we're actually going to have a release of konversation for intrepid. | 12:41 | |
jtechidna | ;.; | 12:43 |
* jussi01 wonders why its so hard to find decent employees to do linux stuff ... in Finland | 12:47 | |
larsivi | anyone here having trouble with flash in konqueror on hardy? once interacting with the flash movie/app - it seems to grab enough of the input events to effectively lock the desktop | 12:48 |
larsivi | after reinstalling konqueror-nsplugins yesterday, it worked better, but today it is back into a bad mode | 12:48 |
Hobbsee | jussi01: well, because it's finland? | 12:48 |
jussi01 | Hobbsee: linux was born here... it shouldnt be hard to find people | 12:49 |
Hobbsee | hmm, true | 12:49 |
seezer | doesn't intrepid have kde4.1 beta packages? | 12:56 |
seezer | or is there any ppa for those | 12:56 |
stdin | seezer: partial, kde5libs, kdepimlibs and kdebase-runtime I think | 13:07 |
seezer | stdin: alright, thanks | 13:14 |
slougi | seezer: can you confirm the printer bug? | 13:17 |
seele | Riddell: have the desktop meetings resumed this week? | 13:20 |
Riddell | seele: no | 13:23 |
seele | nixternal: i'm not sure i understand your banner | 13:23 |
seele | Riddell: ok thanks | 13:23 |
seele | nixternal: is the third row supposed to be at the top (so the IRC notice is in the middle) or is it the footer? | 13:23 |
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freeflying | anyone here in paris? :) | 13:38 |
Riddell | tonio sometimes | 13:41 |
freeflying | yes, but haven't seen him recently | 13:42 |
a|wen | is kubuntu also released with 8.04.1 cd's ? | 14:08 |
seele | ScottK: are you part of the MD Loco Team? | 14:11 |
Riddell | a|wen: should do | 14:26 |
seele | hum.. why was firefox uninstalled in the last update? | 14:51 |
Hobbsee | seele: xulrunner-1.9 problems - some stuff didn't build. | 14:57 |
a|wen | Riddell: okay, cool ... do we have any estimated time for when packages need to be in hardy-proposed to get into 8.04.1 ? | 15:11 |
Riddell | a|wen: -updates is what's important | 15:13 |
Riddell | not sure the exact date | 15:13 |
a|wen | Riddell: okay ... just wanted to know, if i should get in a hurry soon, or if i still have a good amount of time | 15:14 |
Riddell | a|wen: it's about a months time | 15:17 |
Riddell | don't delay, best to get it in soon | 15:17 |
a|wen | Riddell: okay, fine ... yeah, i know; just need the changes in intrpid first, but ScottK seems to have a lot over his ears atm. | 15:18 |
yuriy | seele: i asked you about bug 226430 a few days ago and posted what you told me as a comment there, but the guy didn't like my response much, could you post a comment please? | 16:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 226430 in kdebase-workspace "new kde4 menu item unclear context for 'leave'" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/226430 | 16:02 |
nixternal | mornin'!!! | 16:13 |
mhb | nixternal: what was that interview you mentioned? | 16:16 |
nixternal | job interview today | 16:16 |
seele | yuriy: sigh. some people just can't let things go. | 16:17 |
nixternal | seele: ya, pay no attention really to that front page...I can't figure out a decent portal like entrance..I just may toss up the more important information on the page and get rid of the little table at the bottom | 16:18 |
seele | nixternal: ok.. my only concern was that you put information between two larger rows of data and that thin line of data is at risk for being missed :) | 16:21 |
nixternal | ya, I was messing around trying to figure out what to put on that front page | 16:21 |
nixternal | I think having the most important stuff right there in the readers face on the front page will probably be best | 16:22 |
seele | hum.. i guess i could have changed the status too | 16:28 |
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yuriy | seele: "nor do I care how the workflow is being handled"? care for? | 16:53 |
seele | yuriy: prefer? like? | 16:57 |
seele | yuriy: i think the logout workflow sucks? | 16:57 |
seele | oh, yeah.. i guess "care for" | 16:57 |
seele | should have probably proofread | 16:57 |
* seele sighs | 16:57 | |
seele | and it's only noon | 16:57 |
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DRebellion | Hi, I'm creating a new package for intrepid that requires libqt4-dev version 4.4 to build. However, it is currently at version 4.3.4. Could anyone point me at some information as to when/if it will be upgraded? Thanks. | 17:27 |
stdin | !info libqt4-dev intrepid | 17:28 |
ubottu | libqt4-dev (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0-1ubuntu5 (intrepid), package size 5577 kB, installed size 27404 kB | 17:28 |
DRebellion | 0_o | 17:29 |
stdin | I see 4.4 there | 17:29 |
stdin | unless you're using hardy, then it's 4.3.4 (4.4 in -backports) | 17:29 |
DRebellion | stdin, here, it says http://packages.ubuntu.com.cn/intrepid/libqt4-dev | 17:30 |
DRebellion | 4.3.4 | 17:30 |
stdin | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/qt4-x11 | 17:30 |
stdin | packages.u.c can get out of date quite quickly this early in development | 17:31 |
DRebellion | stdin, okay, I'll take your word for it, thanks. | 17:31 |
stdin | yw :) | 17:32 |
Riddell | DRebellion: 4.4 is also in hardy-backports if you're still on hardy | 17:34 |
Riddell | DRebellion: let us know if/when you need a review | 17:35 |
DRebellion | Riddell, ok thanks | 17:35 |
smarter | hmm, is it really necessary that kdebase-workspace-dev depends on kde-icons-oxygen? | 18:22 |
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Riddell | when shall we three meet again? | 18:54 |
Riddell | kubuntu meeting next wednesday at 22:00? | 18:55 |
Riddell | smarter: any reason it shouldn't? | 18:55 |
santiago-ve | Riddell: UTC? | 18:55 |
Riddell | yes | 18:56 |
smarter | Riddell: it's huge and I don't think apps really need it to build | 18:56 |
yuriy | i was surprised wiki says not until June 30th | 18:56 |
santiago-ve | 'kay | 18:56 |
Riddell | yuriy: it does? | 18:56 |
yuriy | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | 18:56 |
smarter | Riddell: is there a kde.mk for non-cmake kde4 apps? | 18:56 |
yuriy | next wednesday sounds better :) | 18:56 |
Riddell | that's ages away | 18:57 |
Riddell | smarter: such things exist? | 18:57 |
Riddell | nixternal: did you set that? | 18:57 |
smarter | the Bespin style | 18:57 |
Riddell | or was it apachelogger? | 18:57 |
smarter | when are we going to switch to /usr ? | 18:58 |
Riddell | smarter: just use /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/autotools.mk ? | 18:58 |
Riddell | smarter: yes | 18:58 |
Riddell | already have for kde4libs | 18:58 |
smarter | ah, great | 18:58 |
smarter | so I don't understand why it can't find kdecoration.h... | 18:59 |
Riddell | smarter: it's in kdebase-workspace, which hasn't been uploaded yet | 19:01 |
Riddell | only kdelibs has been uploaded, everything else is waiting on MIRs | 19:01 |
seele | Next Meeting | 19:03 |
seele | Location: #ubuntu-meeting on IRC | 19:03 |
seele | Date & Time: [WWW] Saturday June 30, 2008 22:00 UTC | 19:03 |
seele | am i crazy or is June 30 a Monday? | 19:03 |
yuriy | so it is. | 19:04 |
Riddell | nixternal: if next wednesday at 22:00 is ok with you please add to fridge | 19:08 |
smarter | Riddell: ok, thanks | 19:09 |
smarter | Riddell: are the packages already available in a PPA or somewhere else? | 19:09 |
Riddell | smarter: no, although if the delay goes on that might be a good idea | 19:10 |
Riddell | sebas: my kde 4 port of guidance-power-manager is in extragear/utils now, ok if I delete the existing guidance/powermanager in there? | 19:27 |
Riddell | kde4powersave in playground looks promising | 19:27 |
yuriy | hmm none of the apport stuff at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs is integrated in Kubuntu is it | 19:39 |
yuriy | graphical stuff that is | 19:40 |
Riddell | yuriy: yes it is, although apport doesn't get used for most KDE apps since they have their own crash handler | 19:41 |
yuriy | Riddell: the report bug things go to bugs.kde.org, and the crash dialogs don't have submit buttons iirc, at least not ones that go to apport/launchpad | 19:43 |
Riddell | right, that's the KDE stuff | 19:46 |
Riddell | non-kde apps will have th qt apport popup when they crash (if it's turned on) | 19:46 |
yuriy | so there is no graphical way to report a KDE bug in launchpad | 19:46 |
Riddell | no | 19:48 |
Riddell | on the whole I'm happy having it point to bugs.kde.org, since most of our bugs should be upstream issues | 19:48 |
yuriy | I want to make a Kubuntu version of that page, but it'll be command line stuff and other more complicated procedures like saving the kcrash file and attaching it | 19:48 |
LaserJock | Riddell: did you sync openbabel for Kalzium? | 20:40 |
Riddell | LaserJock: mm hmm | 20:54 |
LaserJock | Riddell: ok, so is it going to dep on it or Recommends? | 20:55 |
LaserJock | Riddell: I was just chatting with Avogadro people and they mentioned it | 20:55 |
Riddell | LaserJock: depends | 20:56 |
LaserJock | Riddell: ok thanks. I'll have to make sure the other openbabel dependent apps work out | 20:58 |
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yuriy | wow writing wiki pages is a lot of work. props to nixternal | 21:46 |
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