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ActionParsnip!nvidia | mrksbrd00:00
ubottumrksbrd: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:00
mrksbrdok.....going to try it00:01
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* ActionParsnip loves factoids00:01
mrksbrdok all wish me luck....going for reboot....hopefully brb00:03
josephinemrksbrd: try this, i think is gonna be easier :  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new00:03
mrksbrdjosephine....just did that thru device mgr.....gonna reboot00:04
ActionParsnipthe factoids are reccommended and are usually official help00:04
ActionParsnip!coffee00:04
ubottucoffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java00:04
mrksbrdthanks all for the help...hopefully brb00:04
josephinenp00:05
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geniiActionParsnip: A friend added in the !coffee factoid for me :)00:11
geniiActionParsnip: I also recommended the !helpersnack00:14
geniiI think stdin added it00:14
reesehi! i've downloaded and burned the kubuntu 8.04 dvd.. should I follow these instructions tu upgrade from my 7.10? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu00:31
BluesKajreese, yes if you DL'd and burned the 8.04 "alternate" CD00:35
mr-twhy didn't you just upgrade directly?00:36
reesemr-t: don't have adsl00:36
reeseBluesKaj: this is what I've burned http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest00:39
mr-tIf you downloaded the full version you could still import your old files during thr install I think00:40
reeseBluesKaj: this is what I've burned http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest00:41
reeseoh. sorry00:41
BluesKajreese. looks like you DL'd the live DVD version which contains most of the apps. The alternate cd version pulls apps down and upgrades them from the repositories on the internet , which you already have installed .00:43
reeseBluesKaj: so I can upgrade from the live DVD, can't I?00:45
jeroen-I have connecte my iPaq with USB on ppp0. Everything works fine, except when I connect with the PDA I have no internet connection anymore. Unplugging the USB-cable gives an internet connection again. I tried to list ppp0 in /etc/network/interfaces like this: iface ppp0 inet dhcp; but still no luck. Please help?00:45
BluesKajreese, if you have a fairly fast internet connection then using adept to upgrade your existing version would be much simpler .00:47
BluesKaj!upgrade00:48
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes00:48
BluesKajreese, check this out as well ,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades00:49
mr-tbluesKaj , couldn't he add the cd rom to software sources in adept and go from there?00:50
reeseBluesKaj: unfortunately my downloads are at max 4 KB/s :(. anyway, I see that on the dvd there's a cdromupgrade script. So I reckon it suffices a sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade00:50
BluesKajmr-t, yes , but then threpos would have to be upgraded to hardy in his sources.list00:51
BluesKajreese, the it looks like the dvd is for you , since you have the upgrade option ...I'm not familiar with the dvd options00:51
mr-tI don't know much but im learning00:52
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mr-tdoes anyone know how I can ESPN radio to stream in k8.04 ff so I don't have to use windblows?00:57
mr-tor is an active x thing?00:58
NickPrestamr-t, click on "flash" instead of "Windows Media". You can listen to it that way01:01
kuroryuuwhen my laptop resumes from sleep, to get bluetooth to work properly I need to run 'sudo hid2hci --tohci', I've tried to put it in /etc/apci/resume.d/ but it won't work even when using sleep to make it wait first, I have to run it myself01:02
kuroryuuis there anything else I can try?01:02
mr-tI  tried that but it didn't work for me01:02
NickPrestamr-t, really? Does it just not play? Does the flash even load?01:02
mr-tbrb01:03
mr-tI get java script 0 done and nothing01:06
kuroryuuls -l /etc/acpi/resume.d/01:07
kuroryuuoops01:07
kuroryuudisregard that01:07
mr-tthats javascript: (0)^01:08
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navetzis there a way to make frostwire work with 8.04? or is there an alternative to it?01:15
mr-taren't you the guy that wanted to pirate music with it last night?01:16
administrateurhow to changr language pls01:18
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administrateurcomment changer la launge01:19
administrateurlangue01:19
navetzhow do you uninstall a program you installed through a .deb file?01:19
BluesKaj!fr01:19
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr01:19
mr-t!fr01:19
szakulecnavetz: you should be able to use the packager manager to uninstall the program01:20
BluesKajnavetz, in the terminal , sudo dpkg -r packagename01:20
NickPrestanavetz, dpkg -r package01:20
navetzthanks guys01:20
szakulecI've never been able to get Strigi to do anything useful- anything I can try to get it up and working?01:20
BluesKajI made it useful by dumping it ...it's more use that way :)01:21
mr-tI agree01:22
dvoidhey, is there any kde 4.0.80 packages available anywhere yet?01:23
navetzBluesKaj; NickPresta: If I dpkg -r, will I be able to download the package through the repositoires after?01:24
nainefhey01:25
Betuswhen i login say me ""No write access /home/roberto/.ICEauthority" "KDE unable to Start"01:25
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BluesKajnavetz, depends whether it's a default app01:25
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navetzBluesKaj: it was in my repos before, but its gone now.01:25
navetzBluesKaj: it is frostwire btw01:26
BluesKajwhich app is it?01:26
Betushow i repare this?01:26
navetzBluesKaj: frostwire01:26
BluesKajfrostwire is a pain due to it's probs with java01:26
BluesKajif you want p2p , whynot try torrents01:27
navetzBluesKaj: yea, but I don't know an alternate to it, and I think I just found a fix wiht it01:27
navetzBluesKaj: I dont wanna download full torrents for some small files01:27
navetzBluesKaj: frostwire is pretty simple and easy to use01:27
BluesKajyou can choose which files to DL inside the torrents if you use ktorrent01:28
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Betuswhen i login say me ""No write access /home/roberto/.ICEauthority" "KDE unable to Start" and  i cant login.01:28
asobiwhy does my external unmounts itself?01:28
andyman1Hi everyone. Is there a way to make one user's home directory invisible to other users? I'd like to have a guest account that would have no idea (at least in passing) that my account or its files exist01:29
andyman1i changed permissions on my folders, but that just blocks access, you can still see they are there01:30
kuroryuuandyman: start your username with a . and hope they don't do an ls -a?01:30
andyman1hahaha01:30
Dragnslcrandyman1- /home itself usually has to be readable by everyone, otherwise users wouldn't be able to get to their home directories01:31
andyman1=(01:32
DragnslcrDepending on what you have for other users, you could make the guest user's home directory something like /guesthome/guest and make /home only readable by a certain user or group01:32
NickPrestaandyman1, you could try jailing the guest user: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_chroot_login01:32
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Dragnslcrchroot would work. Depending on your CPU and memory, you could also set up a VM01:33
NickPrestathat was my next suggestion :)01:33
andyman1hmm01:33
andyman1i'm checking out that link01:33
kingjerecouldn't andyman1 do that with a umask? Im not sure.01:34
andyman1yeah, this educational moment was prompted by the "customs can search your laptop" story that's been circulating. Obviously is was very paranoid i could just use truecrypt, etc. But my first thought was "hey, why not make a dummy account and not let it see the real one?"01:35
andyman1*if I was very paranoid01:35
andyman1then it lead me to read about unix permissions, etc01:35
NickPrestahow can US (?) customs search your laptop if you have a password on your account? They force you to login and divulge all your information?01:36
andyman1you either give them the password or they confiscate it. (US customs, at least)01:36
Boohbahandyman1: yes, 'chmod -R 600 ~/*'01:36
andyman1so now this experiment is entertaining me01:37
NickPrestaThat is strange. I would simply boot to the CLI and tell them they can search all they want.01:37
kingjereor better, boot to another distro on the same disk with nothing to hide01:38
andyman1that's another good idea01:38
eldowanDoes pulseaudio provide for a way to lock a specific stream volume?01:38
_CrashMaster_Never had customs search my laptop.01:38
andyman1i also thought this has good use if i need to lend the laptop to the roommate/family  for something01:38
_CrashMaster_They make me turn it on/off, but they've never asked to get into it01:38
kingjereOr boot to a CLI in hebrew font ;)01:38
nainefoh no01:39
kuroryuuthey'd think the hebrew was arabic and take you into custody instead :P01:39
andyman1i was confused as i set permissions to 600 on a few files, booted into another account, and could still see them, just couldn't read them01:39
kingjeregood one01:40
kuroryuuI can't even go into mexico now without my passport and a cavity search or two, it's getting ridiculous01:40
andyman1so to continue with the experiment, if I added another distro, is there a way to get grub to *easily* boot something not on the visible list? (i.e. avoid the "well now show me this one" problem?)01:41
kingjerethe default grub config skips the menu.01:42
kingjereits the hiddenmenu option in /boot/grub/menu.lst just change the default before you go to customs01:42
andyman1ah ok (and i'm not actually going anytime in the forseeable future, I even hate travelling IN the country)01:43
kuroryuuwith my macbook I can just uninstall refit so it boots up into an untouched os x install :)01:44
andyman1cool01:44
andyman1and one random non-paranoia question, has anyone else seen NetworkManager get ridiculously large in memory?01:45
andyman1if i leave the laptop on for a few days, it grows to over half a gig01:46
kuroryuuonly problem I'm having with linux on this macbook is running hid2hci on resume from sleep to get my bluetooth mouse's scrollwheel to work again01:46
kuroryuuandyman1: no, I haven't seen that01:47
[Relic]anyway to get a microphone working/test to see if it works?01:47
stewart_hey01:48
kuroryuu[Relic]: turn up the mic volume in kmix and use krec to test01:48
andyman1it'll grow large enough to grind the system to a halt =\01:49
kuroryuuandyman1: install more ram? lol01:50
andyman1hehe01:51
kingjereandyman1: I'll bet those guys at customs had something to do with it :)01:51
naineflol01:51
_Angelus_w00t01:51
andyman1rootkit! zomg!01:51
_Angelus_kubuntu fixed the shadow problem on nvidia with compiz shadows?01:51
_Angelus_:p01:51
kuroryuuis there another way to run a command on resume besides /etc/acpi/resume.d/ ?01:55
nokioohi01:58
nokioothe where the sound drivers??01:58
nainefover there ->01:59
nokioowow qwerty sucks01:59
nainefj/k01:59
nokiooROFL!!!01:59
[Relic]nothing01:59
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nokioook nothing works here01:59
nokioothe sound02:00
nainefthe sound drivers should be installed if you have a compatible sound card02:00
[Relic]I am not getting anything on the microphone, any ideas on how to solve this?02:01
BluesKaj[Relic], have you setup sound in system settings ?02:01
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nokiooI have the sound in Amarok02:01
[Relic]BluesKaj, got output just no input02:02
kingjere[Relic]: just wondering if you are on a HP dv9000 laptop02:02
nokiooThere is no available decoder.02:02
nancy_hello, I got a problem with the Kubuntu Hardy KDE 4.0 Live CD. Whenever I throw it in to boot and install after running it live, it boots into text mode and does not appear to start x-server or KDE or anything. any ideas?02:02
nokioothats the message02:03
[Relic]kingjere, ga-p35-ds3l   realtek alc888   6 jacks02:03
glorHey all, I was wondering if anyone knows how to install the newest version of gparted on ubuntu??02:03
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kuroryuunancy_: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have any errors?02:03
kingjere[Relic]: I was wondering cause I've been trying to get my mic working for some time. Its different from yours though02:03
nancy_there are no errors indicated02:03
[Relic]kingjere, synth devices and midi devices not enabled02:03
nokiooI meant to say I dont have sound in Amarok02:04
[Relic]just wondering where exactly the config is stored so I could check it out02:04
nokiooThere is no available decoder.02:04
kuroryuunancy_: can you switch to X with alt+F7?02:04
kingjere[Relic]: I'm not sure what that means02:04
BluesKaj[Relic], check ' alsamixer ' in the terminal and make sure the mic input ctrls are at 70% and unmuted02:04
nancy_hm, never tried that, I'll try that, problem is that i am on the computer i want to run it on atm02:05
nancy_the weird thing is that before I bruned the recent image including KDE 4, kubuntu live did just display a blank screen and nothing at all, now at least it shows the console02:06
nokiooThere is no available decoder.02:06
BluesKajnokioo, mp3 ?02:06
nainefnokioo: you might need to install the kubuntu restricted02:07
nokiooBluesKaj: how?02:07
nainefextras02:07
reese_is it dangerous to interrupt the upgrading during the setting new software channels? it takes too long, for my internet connection02:07
BluesKajnokioo, in the terminal , sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg02:07
[Relic]BluesKaj, no luck02:13
BluesKaj[Relic], check kmix inputs and switches02:14
[Relic]BlueDevil, been there done that, need to find the config file02:14
[Relic]wrong tab complete  :)   BluesKaj  :)02:15
nancy_=P02:16
nancy_sorry guys, my young brother is fooling 'round02:16
nancy_anyways, thank's for the help.02:16
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cahuezhiya..02:18
glorhey all, anyone know how to compile and install the new version of gparted?  the default version with ubuntu is full of bugs dealing with large disks...02:18
ptyo11anybody succefully install swscanner? I am getting a interface doesn't support scanning. The swscanner website is underconstruction so I can't get any docs on it.02:19
ptyo11no ideas on swscanner?02:21
glorI'm new to ubuntu and haven't played with linux for years.. sorry I can't help02:22
mr-ti think i found ny streaming prob. i didn't install flashplayer as root, I m trying to do so now and the installer wants the installation path of my browser . I found ff directory in /usr but when i use that path  it says i need a valid path? wtheck?02:22
BluesKaj[Relic], /usr/bin/asoundconf02:23
cahuezhey glor...02:24
cahuezat console try to> sudo apt-get install qtparted and go...02:26
glorkk onsec02:26
cahuezsure..02:26
cahuezbut you mean qtparted, the tool for partitioning disks..!?02:27
glorok it's finished02:27
nainefw00t02:27
glorwell I was using gparted but heck I'll settle for anything that will work02:27
glorOh baby, its working iwth my disks, thank you so much cahuez!02:28
cahuezyou are welcome glor..!02:29
glor:)02:29
cahuezand use it with care, is a powerful tool..02:29
nainefthe channel is on a roll02:29
mr-tanyone ? ^02:31
glorwould you do a primary partition or an extended partition?  this is a raid volume so there is the option to expand it later in life by adding a drive..  would the extended allow me to resize?  or would  I be better off with a primary?02:32
cahuezhumm glor, good question; a raid volume containing how many disks..!?02:32
cahuezis it for personal or production purposes..?02:33
glor5 disks, raid 6 3TB total (5 1tb drives)02:33
glorsemi production02:33
cahuezwow, what a thing, hehe..!02:34
glorthe array is managed by a controller however, so ubuntu only sees the free space of 3TB02:34
cahuezlet me check my notes, a moment please...02:34
glork :)02:34
nainefwow02:34
glordang, qtparted is acting like gparted did...  it lets me create the 3tb volume,  but when I commit my changes and refresh, it shows the size only being 745.9702:35
glorwhat kernel is ubuntu 8.04 using?  2.6?02:36
kloplop32Is anyone here good at knowing why a system if getting an error message(the same one) EVERY time that an application starts up in the GUI?02:36
nainef2.6.2402:36
glorwerid then it shouldnt' have any problems with larger volumes...02:36
Kloplop321a gparted issue?02:37
cahuezthat's right glor..02:37
glorya, 0.3.5 (which ubuntu uses) has issues with > 1tb disks02:37
glor0.3.7 fixes it02:37
cahuezprobably you will need some advice with lvm and linux tools..02:37
glorbut I can't compile it02:37
Kloplop321ooh :S that is out of my district02:37
Kloplop321hmm... maybe it has to do with how a 32 bit integer or a 64 bit long both unsigned may not be able to have each sector's number02:38
cahuezi mean glor, the best bet is giving a try to lvm resources..02:38
Kloplop321are you using a RAID array, or a single hard drive02:38
glorwhere would I find those?02:38
glorI have an Areca 1220 controller handling the raid, so I'm not using linux raid02:39
[Relic]Anything other than krec to try recording, I can hear voices in my head now, but krec doesn't seem to hear them when I try playback02:39
cahuezyeap and it don't have too much sense to format/use a very large partition, without mirroring and other stuff with lvm related...02:39
Kloplop321I do not know of "Areca 1220" is that a physical component handling it or what?02:39
glorcorrect02:39
glorits a hardware raid controller02:40
Kloplop321so it is a RAID 0 type?02:40
glorRaid 602:40
glorsimilar to Raid 5 but it has a double parity set02:40
Kloplop321and since it is a hardware controller, the computer thinks of it as a single HDD?02:40
glorcorrect02:40
Kloplop321ahh.02:40
glorthe computer only sees a 3tb drive02:40
Kloplop321lots of space..02:41
glorheh ya02:41
glorit's going to be a backup server02:41
Kloplop321are you on a 64 bit or 32 bit processor?02:41
glorand I want to do revisioning etc02:41
glor64bit02:41
Kloplop321is there a 64 gparted or qtparted?02:41
Kloplop32164-bit02:41
cahuezboth ones..02:41
[Relic]BluesKaj, got sound in the headphones and can hear it recording, but krec doesn't seem too record or playback anything02:42
glorfor some reason ubuntu is only utilizing 3.502:42
cahuezglop, let's try a google with "kubuntu" + "logical volume manager" and check...02:42
glorthey have 3.6 availabel for different builds but not mine evidently02:42
glorkk02:43
Kloplop321Relic, you do not have to use krec for recording everything, it fails for me, would you like me to get the name of the app I use?02:43
Kloplop321[Relic] I use "Kwave Sound Editor" it has recording abilities as well. It works for me quite well02:44
Kloplop321Krec, does not work for me02:44
BluesKaj[Relic], I'm not well versed in krec but maybe audacity will work ...it does for me , A/D 'ing vinyl to the hard drive02:44
BigPickI'm an audacity user aswell. Never could get Krec working.02:45
Kloplop321BluesKaj, audacity may work, however what I suggest worked first time for me02:45
BluesKajthe mic inputs may work in audacity02:45
[Relic]probably end up trying them all  :)02:45
BigPickJust out of curiosity, do you happen to know what your soundcard is?02:45
Kloplop321well they should be both in the Apt-get or adept database ;)02:45
cahuezglor, just for checking, at console do a> apt-cache search lvm2 ...02:46
BluesKajcool Kloplop321 , never tried kwave , good to have other options02:46
Kloplop321yeah, I did some research, it works like my Window's replica. I like it better02:46
Kloplop321glor, any luck with googling?02:47
adityaand im totally new here :|02:47
Kloplop321what is it that you need?02:47
cahuezyeap, glor look at: http://www.linuxconfig.org/Linux_lvm_-_Logical_Volume_Manager ---02:48
adityame pretty much nothing :d im just here to help .02:48
Kloplop321ahh, well having good knowledge here will help ;)02:48
cahuezyeap, hehe..02:48
adityahopefully i have some of it :D02:48
cahuezhey aditya..!02:48
adityahey . wasup . whas the problem ?02:49
cahuezyeap, tell us..02:49
Kloplop321I don't think he has a problem aditya02:50
cahuezglor, take a carefull check of that info at> http://www.linuxconfig.org/Linux_lvm_-_Logical_Volume_Manager ...02:50
Kloplop321glor, have you looked at that?02:50
cahuezbefore proceed..02:50
adityadamn . alrite maybe i cud have a problem . let me think . na as of now i dont have a problem .02:50
Kloplop321I still have my problem to be solved :(02:51
adityaand whas ur problem ?02:51
aditya:D02:51
Kloplop321just a moment let me get a direct quote of what it says(easy to reproduce02:51
Kloplop321)02:51
adityaalrite .02:51
Kloplop321Could not fine Mime type (2 new lines) application/octet-stream02:52
adityaand u get that error when ?02:53
Kloplop321says it EVERY time I open up a new application, and whenever I start up02:53
adityaon all of the applications ?02:53
Kloplop321and when I use "kfind" I have to close like 20 as they keep adding up02:53
Kloplop321yeah02:53
Kloplop321on EVERY02:53
Kloplop321even on what ever process that loads the background picture..02:53
glorlooking now!02:54
adityaalrite tried deleting the octet stream file that u use by default ?02:54
cahuezcool...02:54
adityai use gnome these days but hang on the other laptops on kde lemme gimme wha file u have to delete :D02:55
aditya1. cd  <enter> shud take u to ur home directory02:56
aditya2. cd .kde/share/mimelnk/application/     <copy paste that>02:56
Kloplop321only problem, I have no clue where it is, and why EVERY application just HAS to look at it..02:56
adityathen delete the "octet-stream.desktop" file02:57
adityathen it shunt give that error :d02:57
adityaif it does then we cud try another thing :D02:58
Kloplop321yeah I know I am just about to02:58
adityaIn Konqueror/Settings/Configure Konqueror/File Associations/Add     in group application type octet-stream     then reboot :D02:59
[Relic]Kloplop321, BluesKaj  :  kwave worked,  plus it lets me filter  :)02:59
Kloplop321good going [Relic]!02:59
[Relic]now if I could just get the cheapie web cam to capture I would be all set  :)03:00
Kloplop321ok I just deleted the octet file in there03:00
Kloplop321well good luck03:00
Kloplop321Kmix might be able to help you, but I am not sure03:00
Kloplop321let me try to replicate what normally happens aditya03:01
Kloplop321WOOT!03:02
Kloplop321it works, no more errors!03:02
Kloplop321thanks aditya03:02
Kloplop321:D03:02
nosrednaekim!info kwave03:03
ubottukwave (source: kwave): sound editor for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.10-1.1 (hardy), package size 3164 kB, installed size 6588 kB03:03
Kloplop321ooo03:03
Kloplop321never knew that existed03:03
nosrednaekim:)03:04
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Kloplop321!info wine03:07
ubottuwine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.59-0ubuntu5 (hardy), package size 11455 kB, installed size 53620 kB03:07
domluchello, Where I can find preparation packages of kubuntu03:07
Kloplop321preperation packages?03:07
nosrednaekimpreparation?03:07
domlucI'm looking for 4.1 beta03:07
domlucyes, sorry03:07
nosrednaekimoh... thats not out yet :)03:07
DragnslcrI don't think there are any Kubuntu packages for KDE 4.1b1 yet03:07
Kloplop321do you mean KDE4?03:07
domlucno, 4.103:07
Kloplop321well 4 in general03:08
DragnslcrMaybe by the end of the week03:08
domlucyeah03:08
domlucbut version kde 4.103:08
DragnslcrUsually takes a few days to put the packages together03:08
geniiKloplop321: main kde project released 4.1 recently but has not yet been packaged for kubuntu03:08
Kloplop321I have the 4.0 one on my computer that can run in a different session, I don't like the new menu, but everything else is nice03:08
domlucI had read the announce right now03:08
geniidomluc: After the devs get home from their big meeting I'm sure we'll see one03:09
NickPrestaMr. Anderson, greetings03:09
nosrednaekimKloplop321: you can see change it :)03:09
Kloplop321how?03:09
nosrednaekimNickPresta: one of those annoying people embarrasing me about my age :P03:09
NickPrestanosrednaekim, hehehe. Total surprise, although not a bad one :)03:10
nosrednaekimKloplop321: remove it, the right click->add applet and choose the traditional menu03:10
Kloplop321lol, nice...03:10
nosrednaekimNickPresta: at least people didn't mistake me the other way.... as a 12 year old :P03:10
NickPrestanosrednaekim, haha. I wasn't thinking you were _old_, but late 20s, mid 30s was what I was thinking03:10
domlucwell,  right now in hardy, what version of kde is in repo?03:11
Kloplop321!info KDE4*03:11
nosrednaekimdomluc: 3.5.9 and 4.0.303:11
ubottukde4 (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB03:11
NickPrestathink of it as a testament to your maturity ;)03:11
cahuezhe..03:11
domlucyou're very friendly :-)03:12
nosrednaekimget off my lawn... punk.03:13
nosrednaekim:P03:13
naineflol03:18
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Kloplop321what, so now that I have no error anymore people go silent?03:26
Kloplop321and have connection time outs?03:27
nosrednaekimyep! :)03:27
DragnslcrGood job, you killed the channel03:27
corinthIs there a shortcut for adding http://www.   and   .com, .net, etc in konqueror, similar to ctrl-enter, etc in Firefox? Alternately, is there a way to add these?03:27
Kloplop321this may not be very supportave of what you are asking for, but konqueror's html rendering isn't very good, why are you still staying with it?03:29
Kloplop321by the way, FF2 has a lag rendering problem, but the FF3 beta 5 does not seem to btw03:30
cahuezcorinth, have you tested firefox..!?03:30
nosrednaekimKloplop321: BTW... konqueror's HTML rendering is the best in the world.... (next to safari)03:30
nosrednaekimbut not everything is made according to the standards03:31
Kloplop321you sure? because it seems pretty crapy to me compared to what I am used to, and some divs scooting off to the right, and misplaced sections of the page03:31
nosrednaekimKloplop321: badly coded pages.03:31
corinthcahuez Yes, I use firefox, but I prefer to use a desktop's default applications. The only problem is that I get rendering problems on certain pages.03:32
Kloplop321you sure of that? it seems that ONLY in Konqueror's browser that I EVER see (I do not play it anymore) Runescape's table section with links above the java applet screwed up and double the height03:32
Kloplop321well corinth, there is a setting which you can change in the system settings of the default programs03:33
cahuezyeap corinth, usually happens, mainly if looking for non-free content..03:33
Kloplop321bamed "Default Applications"03:33
Kloplop321named*03:33
corinthNo, I mean that I like to use the programs that are well integrated into a desktop, like konq is with KDE, and epiphany with GNOME. Anyway though, the main problem I have is with digg.com. I get rendering problems in konq with it.03:34
Kloplop321well I just gave it up, I have not had any problems myself. It is all a matter of opinion, and what the best solution is or desireable03:35
cahuezhumm, take a look to "about:plugins" and check what is not in place..03:36
lovrehi all03:36
Kloplop321hello03:36
chipbuddywell, i'm reinstalling ubuntu again... but this time i'm going to install kubuntu right off the bat and try to stick with it. so hooray for me03:37
lovrei need help. Have a movie, but its audio is too silent. How can i boost it up? Tried the Kaffeine equalizer, didnt help much--03:37
Kloplop321ohh, do you have the KMix app installed?03:37
lovreyes03:37
nosrednaekimlovre: kmix is on max as well?03:37
Kloplop321you can turn the PCM and audio setting up to the highest in it03:37
nosrednaekimall of the channels?03:37
lovresec03:37
lovreeverything is up. Its just this one movie03:38
lovreother movies are fine03:38
nosrednaekimget an external amp :P03:38
wadMy debian server is sharing 3 printers via samba. My windows boxen can all see the three printers, but this Kubuntu box can only see one of them, for some odd reason. I need to print to one of the other ones. Has anyone seen this behavior before? Why on earth would it only see one of the printers?03:38
lovreis there some other video viewer that has better equaliser?03:38
lovrenosrednaekim: loool03:38
chipbuddyif i have an ntfs partition, will kubuntu have any problems at all accessing it?03:38
Kloplop321well, It reminds me of how the Matrix movies were quite silent, you might just have to turn up the speaker really high :(03:38
lovrechipbuddy: no03:38
nosrednaekimchipbuddy: shouldn't, no03:38
lovreKloplop321: loool, funny you mention that. THE MOVIE IS MATRIX LOOL03:39
Kloplop321prooves my point doesn't it ;)03:39
corinthActually, I had problems in Kubuntu Gutsy getting my ntfs partitions to auto mount. Not sure if it's fixed yet.03:39
Kloplop321Wad, have you tried putting in the location in the screen yourself?03:39
Kloplop321I had to add it myself into the printer settings on my desktop03:40
wadKloplop321: yes. It went through the wizard to install the printer, and said it was good, but wouldn't work.03:40
lovreKloplop321: i can boost speakers up cuz they have their own amplifier. But im trying to watch it on headphones. They dont have applifier, so i have to amplify with software03:40
wadNo jobs ever showed up on the CUPS page.03:40
* wad tries again03:40
Kloplop321lovre, good luck because I do not know of any software like that, unless you re-encode the vid yourself03:40
Kloplop321odd. do you have the correct driver selected for the model?03:41
lovreKloplop321: what would that take, like 4 hours?03:41
lovreKloplop321: i have Core2Duo @ 2x2133Ghz03:41
chipbuddyah... but if i'm planning on having a common area between kubuntu and windows i should make it ext2?03:41
chipbuddy!ext203:41
ubottuFactoid ext2 not found03:41
Kloplop321in my experience for a dvd QUALITY, MORE THAN THAT03:41
chipbuddy!ntfs03:41
Kloplop321CRAPPY  caps lock..03:41
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE03:41
nosrednaekimchipbuddy: yeah... that works...as does ntfs and fat3203:41
lovreKloplop321: uf. Nothing then. Thank you03:41
Kloplop321and is that printer printing a CUPS test page from another linux computer Wad/03:42
Kloplop321?03:42
Kloplop321why does it say I am away :S03:42
Kloplop321yay03:43
Kloplop321no more away03:43
Kloplop321good luck lovre03:43
lovreKloplop321: thank you03:43
Kloplop321anybody else need any help? I am bored03:44
wadKloplop321: Me! Hang on!03:44
wad:)03:44
corinthKloplop321: Try working on bug #1 >_>03:44
wadKloplop321: I prints test pages fine from CUPS web page.03:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103:44
wadKloplop321: and it prints test pages fine from windows boxen.03:44
cahuezand kubuntu boxes, the better, hehe..03:45
Kloplop321well, I mean from another linux box03:45
khajaviHELP: Why in kubuntu 8.04 the cdrom doesn't mount at /cdrom but it mount /media/[label of CD]03:45
cahuezdo a >whereis cdrom ..03:45
Kloplop321what about at cdrom0?03:45
wadHey, I think it just worked!03:46
Kloplop321Wad, is that the ONLY other linux box you have to test with03:46
Kloplop321are you going to run to the printer to check?03:46
wadI have two others.... but I started with this one.03:46
wadMy son is. :)03:46
wadI was looking at the CUPS output.03:46
wadYAY!03:46
wadIt works!03:46
khajavifor example when I insert kubuntu it mount at /media/kubuntu 8.04 not at /media/cdrom003:47
Kloplop321yeh, you may have just selected the wrong driver03:47
wadI had the same driver (a PPD file, locally), but I reinstalled it with some other options.03:47
Kloplop321khajavi, your system may be thinking that the CD/DVD drive is a memory/flash drive instead..03:47
wadAnd I went into admin mode, and set it as the default.03:47
wadThat might have fixed.03:47
wadAnyway, on to the next project.03:48
Kloplop321yeah, admin mode would have set it deeper into the system03:48
wadThanks, guys!03:48
Kloplop321go on wad03:48
* wad bows, and leaves03:48
Kloplop321I thought he had another bug03:48
khajaviKloplop321: after installing new kubuntu 8.04 I have this problem03:48
Kloplop321netspilt?03:49
Kloplop321khajavi: odd, did you do via internet or by disk?03:49
Kloplop321anybody else here?03:54
NickPrestawe're here :)03:54
Kloplop321ok, because the guy I as supposibly working with died and got ran over some how03:55
khajaviKloplop321: bye disk03:55
Kloplop321?03:55
Kloplop321khajavi: what about other disks, does it go with the CD's name as well?03:55
khajaviKloplop321: in ubuntu I dont have any problem but in kubuntu this is an important issue03:56
khajaviKloplop321: Yes, they mount as the names of CDs03:56
khajaviKloplop321: I mount them manually at /cdrom: mount /media/kubuntu --bind /cdrom03:57
Kloplop321very weird. I would think that your computer thinks that your CD drive is a flash drive dock and just renames like how my multi-card reader dock does03:58
aeroz 03:58
khajaviKloplop321: the mount very straightly03:59
Kloplop321however I have no idea on how to fix it, I would suggest, that you post on the forums and see what you can get.03:59
khajavithanks fo your attention04:00
Kloplop321I hope you get it fixed, khajavi04:01
Kloplop321I must go to bed, good night people.04:01
cahuezfor you the same, bye bye klop...04:03
Kloplop321I find this channel interesting, I may come back sometime(actively)04:03
* genii sips a coffee04:04
chipbuddy_i'm going to dual boot kubuntu and windows, but i'm going to have a common area. how should i format this common area so that both OS can access it in an efficient manner? ext2? ntfs?04:04
Kloplop321both can access NTFS04:04
jd_chipbuddy_: ntfs04:04
chipbuddyoops04:05
Kloplop321l would not suggest FAT or FAT32, not stable04:05
chipbuddywhy ntfs? because windows likes it and linux can put up with it?04:05
Kloplop321in otherwords, yeah04:06
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ol--lo_fat32 not stable ??04:06
NickPrestachipbuddy, with ntfs-3g, there is no problem with NTFS filesystems really.04:06
cahuezntfs works fine with any distro of linux..04:07
chipbuddyol--lo_i do'nt know about not stable, but it's pretty featureless compared to others. for example, i actually emulated a FAT drive in software when i was in college... and i'm not the sharpest knife in the crayon box04:07
GWillakersI haven't gotten any updates for what seems like a couple of weeks.  Is this just because its a new release (8.04) or am I screwed up somehow (or both)??04:08
ol--lo_chipbuddy: fat32 fragmetes fast and the 4gb limitation is painflul if you work with dvd.iso's but i have never heard it to be unstabel ...04:09
Kloplop321I've updated over 200 applications from when I upgraded, but system upgrades? I think less than 50 actually04:10
cahuezklop, do at console> uname -a and tell us...04:11
GWillakersI haven't gotten any updates.04:11
cahuezmine> Linux Pucelle 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux ...04:11
cahuezleaving in a jet plane; ciao....04:12
Kloplop321back jsut a sec04:13
Kloplop321this is on my laptop, not my main computer where I have most of my stuff04:14
Kloplop321Linux kloplop321-laptop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux04:14
Kloplop321ohh he logged out..04:14
ol--lo_Linux AmaTaraSu 2.6.25-4.slh.3-sidux-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri May 23 21:58:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux04:14
Kloplop321well night people, I figure I should sleep now, last day of manditory public education for me tomarrow for this school year.04:15
Kloplop321hmm, you seem to have a newer kernel, and my update icon is at the top, I'll run a quick apt-get update in the tty104:16
ol--lo_Kloplop321: i do not use kubuntu04:17
Kloplop321I use kubuntu on my main machine, I use xubuntu with WiFi on this pentium 2 laptop I got for like $6504:17
Kloplop321yeah it is updating the kernel right now04:18
madberry!wifi04:18
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:18
Kloplop321good luck, setting it up may need some blacklisting, guides always help ;)04:19
Kloplop321well correct guides04:19
Kloplop321night04:19
Frederickfolks how do I install google earth in kubuntu?04:25
jd_frederick: type sudo apt-get install google-earth in the konsole04:26
FrederickPackage google-earth is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:27
Frederickthere is this package to install it04:27
Frederickgoogleearth-package04:27
robertobeto23hi04:27
jd_yeah, use that instead04:27
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Frederickjd_: dont knwo jack04:28
Frederickcause this is also not thje installer from google-earth04:28
pablo__hola a todos04:28
pablo__como estan04:29
pablo__soy nuevo en este jejeje es la primera vez que entro aka04:29
pablo__^_^04:29
Frederickjd_: this is a tool to generate a deb from the bin file google distributes04:30
Frederickbut for some reason after install mine google earth does not logs04:30
jd_Fredrick: yeah.... i found that out just now too04:30
unix_infidelwow, it's crazy how compiz works by default in ubuntu.04:30
unix_infideli'm astounded.04:30
jd_Frederick: you can try to download it from google.... i'm trying it now so i don't know how it works yet http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html04:32
Odd-rationaleFrederick: try adding the medibuntu repo04:34
Frederickjd_: this was the first thing ive tried04:34
Odd-rationale!medibuntu | Frederick04:34
ubottuFrederick: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org04:34
jd_Frederick: what was the problem you hit04:35
Odd-rationalethen install googleearth04:35
Odd-rationalegoogleearth is in the medibuntu repos...04:35
Fredericktrying04:36
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FrederickOdd-rationale: thanks a lot it did the trick04:39
Odd-rationaleFrederick: np04:40
nokiooafter a breakage is it dpkreconfigure -a ??04:40
nokioohello?04:41
nokiooafter a breakage is it dpkreconfigure -a ??04:41
Odd-rationalesudo dpkg-reconfigure -a04:41
belzebubCannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting., why?04:42
[mad]Berry|lappyalright wifi problems been hacking at it for a couple of hours i'm not seeing it here is some info http://paste.ubuntu.com/15465/04:42
[mad]Berry|lappyi just get can't find any networks04:44
[mad]Berry|lappyanybody?04:45
tvakahsay, anything in particular I need to do to have an esata drive detected? dmesg and syslog don't show any sign of it being plugged in... hotplugged that is04:47
navetz__hey, how can I uninstall vmware (the repost don't show that its installed) but it is in my /etc and I see a install script called installer.sh04:52
flaccid!vmware | navetz__04:52
ubottunavetz__: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", only for Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers04:52
belzebub!kde404:53
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde404:53
navetz__flaccid: I have vmware-server isntalled04:53
flaccidand did you read te above links?04:53
geniitvakah: Do you happen to know the chipset of the eSATA controller card?04:54
navetz__flaccid: I am asking how to remove it, I had it in 7.10, but when I upgraded it broke.04:54
navetz__flaccid: now my repos show it not installed, and I can't install it, or uninstall it.04:54
tvakahgenii, checking, the internal sata drive works fine04:54
flaccidnavetz__: if its a package, just use adept, otherwise you will have to remove it manually unless vmware provides and uninstall script and you kept it04:54
tvakahgenii, 03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 02)04:55
rootEPA04:55
navetz__flaccid: it is a package, but when I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 it broke04:55
navetz__flaccid: now it shows that it is not installed, I can't install it. I can't uninstall it because the it shows that it is not installed (but the files are on my computer)04:56
flaccidnavetz__: remove the package with apt-get. if you get an error pastebin it.04:56
tvakahgenii, it's the bulit in esata in an asus c90s notebook btw04:56
flaccidnavetz__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server tells you are how to manually remove if you have the script. otherwise remove under sudo as long as you make sure the package is purged.04:57
navetz__flaccid: here is my error: Package vmware-server is not installed, so not removed04:57
navetz__flaccid: I found a install script in my /etc/vmware04:58
tvakahgenii, also there is a 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [Master])04:58
navetz__flaccid: can I uninstall with a install script?04:58
flaccidnavetz__: can you please first confirm dpkg -l | grep vmware04:58
flaccidnavetz__: no read the link!04:58
ol--lo_shouldnt that be vmware-package04:58
navetz__flaccid : I see some stuff there, want me to pastebin it?04:59
geniitvakah: Is this perhaps an Asus G2S laptop?04:59
flaccidol--lo_: no.04:59
flaccidnavetz__: yes04:59
geniitvakah: Sorry, missed your earlier post04:59
navetz__flaccid: http://pastebin.com/d4fda3f2d05:00
geniitvakah: Although this may also apply since the controller is the same in both cases: http://kerneltrap.org/node/1587505:00
flaccidnavetz__: you removed the package but did not purge it thus why the runtime configs exist. which i think is what rc stands for..05:00
navetz__flaccid: I didn't remove the package though, I didn't have it after the upgrade.05:01
flaccidnavetz__: sudo dpkg --purge vmware-server vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.22-1405:01
flaccidwell dpkg doesn't lie generally. if you remove a package, it will leave the configs (if it has some) until you purge it.05:02
belzebubCannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting....when i start minefield, why?05:02
navetz__flaccid: I got lota errors05:03
navetz__http://pastebin.com/d3fd7c35705:03
flaccidnavetz__: they are non harmful. merely artifacts it seems. check dpkg -l | grep vmware now..05:04
flaccidnavetz__: it helps if you didn't run the command in /etc/vmware ..05:04
matthewQuestion: Kubuntu comes with no firewall and no (se linux or ap armor) protections turned on?05:04
flaccidmatthew: no firewall with default installed05:05
flaccid!firewall | matthew05:05
ubottumatthew: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).05:05
tvakahgenii, hrm, nah I get nothing not even an error concerning the jmicron ata interface, just did a reboot with it plugged in and still no dice05:05
tvakahgenii, going to try changing the bios to ide mode instead of ahci05:05
navetz__flaccid: I think that may have worked.05:05
flaccidbelzebub: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/commands-some-work-some-dont-208416/ or google might help?05:06
flaccidnavetz__: yeah should of :)05:06
matthewflaccid: but the question was--is it turned on by default?05:07
nokiooI dsn't think it was dpkg-reconfigure -a05:08
flaccidmatthew: negative. there are no network services/ports listening either after install05:10
matthewi c05:10
flaccidmatthew: its not bad. i mean i would prefer to see a minimal iptables plus a minimal selinux but there isn't really a threat. however i believe that samba should be an option with the installer and thus require firewall..05:11
inteliwaspwhat do i need to do to make java work in ff3 beta5?05:16
flaccid!java | inteliwasp05:17
ubottuinteliwasp: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper05:17
flaccidthe usual afik inteliwasp05:17
inteliwasp.... crud...... i did use adept to install java605:18
inteliwaspwell i guess i need to purge and reinstall05:18
flaccidinteliwasp: let me check first05:19
inteliwaspya i jest need a plugin link05:19
flaccida plugin link?05:19
inteliwaspjust*05:19
flaccidgoogle 'java test' ?05:20
flaccidhttp://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml05:20
inteliwaspff does not see that i have java05:20
inteliwaspand no that does not work05:20
flaccidyeah same with me inteliwasp. run firefox 3 initially from konsole and then goto the page and you will see the errors :(05:21
flaccidbrb05:21
flaccidinteliwasp: PIPE: appletviewer wrote: status exception: java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: " ".java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: " "05:30
navetz__can someone tell me where I can find a good tutorial on flash?05:32
inteliwasper... i figured it out just a minute ago, i needed to uninstall java-common and any other java components, and the reinstall java605:32
ol--lo_navetz__: google ... http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=flash+tutorial&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&sourceid=Mozilla-search05:33
david__new kernel for linux05:33
david__26.67.rc805:33
ol--lo_67 ..05:34
navetz__ol--lo_: thanks05:34
david__for kernel05:34
david__ new linux kernel05:35
david__  free word05:35
david__ open sorces05:35
flaccidinteliwasp: are they the os/default javas?05:36
david__ alguien que sespa español05:36
flaccid!es | alg05:36
ubottualg: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:36
nainefbrb05:39
hawkeyexhi evreryone05:46
hawkeyexdoes anyone know how to create web access for users to put up their web page and stuff05:47
hawkeyexI'm still trying to figure out apache205:47
hawkeyexdoes anyone know how to create directories for users for web access - or a least know where to create the web pages?05:47
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ol--lo_hawkeyex: you might want to read the apache docs ...05:49
ol--lo_!apache05:49
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:49
ol--lo_!apache205:50
ubottuFactoid apache2 not found05:50
flaccidhawkeyex: use public_html generally05:52
geniihawkeyex: Perhaps see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=81529#post8152905:52
hawkeyexlemme see if it works05:52
flaccidbrb05:53
flaccidjava is not working in my firefox 2 or 3 not sure if its because both installed. applet crashes in 3, asks for additional plugin in 2. anyone have this or can confirm?06:04
yurimxpxmanis there any way to defragment a mounted disk?06:08
flaccid!defrag06:08
ubottuThe default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.06:08
flaccidyurimxpxman: fs type?06:08
yurimxpxmanflaccid: ext306:09
flaccidno need to defrag. its not fat or ntfs..06:09
yurimxpxmanflaccid: the disk is full.. I need the files rearranged because it's slow as hell06:10
flaccidfree up space06:10
geniiflaccid: The official test site is prompting me for install with ff3b5 .... chose SE6, installing now06:10
flaccidyou could clear the apt-cache if its on that fs06:11
geniiDelete some logs06:11
flaccidwell probably best not to delete logs directly because of log rotate06:12
geniiflaccid: I usually remove the archived ones06:12
flaccidyeah i think its ok to do that directly06:13
flaccidbut better with logrotate/logrotate configuration06:13
dthackerHi.  I'm trying to use firefox to log in to a Citrix Presentation server at work.  I'm getting an error messages stating that I have not accepted an ssl cert.  How can I force that cert to get re-presented?06:14
geniiflaccid: Incidentally install of SE 6 through the ff3b5 worked seamlessly.06:15
yurimxpxmanflaccid: won't the disk be left fragmented after deleting so much data?06:16
flaccidwhat is se 6?06:16
flaccidyurimxpxman: don't believe so06:16
flaccidgood read on why: http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting06:17
geniiflaccid: Sun Java 6 (update 6)06:17
yurimxpxmanflaccid: old news :-)06:17
yurimxpxmanflaccid: but even he admits that ext3 could need defragging when the disk is full06:18
flaccidnew news for you06:18
sgrahamhey trying to set up seemless. with vitualbox (its a long story as to why..) now i downlaoded the vbox guestaditions1.5 iso..06:18
flaccidit would be a hectic task on that kind of fs06:18
sgrahamdo i have to actually write it to a cd cant i mount the iso with like a virtualcd?06:18
flaccidgenii: yeah not sure why my java aint working there. i have exceptions when it calls the plugin06:19
geniiflaccid: Maybe package manager remove of whatever JRE you had then go to the test site and just install it that way06:19
dsmith_dhacker: you still here?06:19
dsmith_flaccid: but I soooooooooo loved defragging.. lol06:20
dsmith_ya know, I use to get 2-3 users a year that knew nothing of defragging06:20
dsmith_when one ran a scan of thier drive, it would be like all red06:20
flaccidgenii: i tried reinstall. it works fine in opera. not sure why its doing an exception, i think its the plugin wrapper06:21
dsmith_and when I try to explain to them what was happening, I got the donut glazzed stare06:21
flacciddecreases life of disk as well06:21
dsmith_yurimxpxman: linux doesn't need defragging06:21
geniiflaccid: I used http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp to test, where it prompted for which specific one to choose and install...GCJ at top then SE6 then SE5, some others. Chose SE6, went well06:22
yurimxpxmandsmith_: come back and say that after you've filled an 80GB disk and your PC is running like Windows. Yes, I know that it doesn't normally, but my disk is completely full06:23
sgrahamyurimxpxman: look for huge log files06:24
sgrahamive seen a few systems taken down by 2 gig log files06:24
flaccidgenii: ta06:24
flaccidyurimxpxman: you are not meant to fill up disks..06:24
ScorpKinghi giys. i can't print and it seems like a bug. is there a way to fix it?06:25
ScorpKingi'll give more info just now ;)06:25
dsmith_yurimxpxman: PULL SOME STUFF OF MAN06:25
dsmith_df shows, 91% on my NAS and thats it06:26
dsmith_the rest are <75%06:26
dsmith_yurimxpxman: two good programs to use are fslint and filelight06:28
dsmith_in the repos06:28
ScorpKingugm.. here is the problem i'm having. none of those things seems to fix the problem with cups. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/153003 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/22108706:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 153003 in cupsys "inode_permission error for cupsd on /dev/tty" [Undecided,Won't fix]06:28
ScorpKingugh f&%06:29
ScorpKingok so i need to get this printer working here. the whole bussiness has been converted to linux with the last machine being this one. invoices needs to be printed before trucks can go off. did anyone else had this problem?06:31
dsmith_what printer?06:31
geniiScorpKing: Hack udev06:32
dsmith_model that is06:32
ScorpKingHP Laserjet 102006:33
ScorpKinggenii: anything specific i should do there?06:33
mr-ttry http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_102006:36
ScorpKingmr-t: thanks. taking a look now06:36
geniiScorpKing: Well, my first thought was to change the rule of making tty to allow what permissions it requires. But on second glance I am thinking the default group of dialout to which that file belongs needs adjusting or user hplip add to that group06:39
ScorpKingmr-t: /usr/share/foo2zjs/firmware/ is empty but the printer worked for about 5 hours yesterday and then just stopped06:39
dsmith_hp 1020 work06:40
dsmith_thats what I use here06:40
ScorpKingdsmith_: yes and then it stopped06:40
dsmith_hmmmm what did you change in the machine?06:40
dsmith_did you try to delete and then readd?06:40
ScorpKingand to make things even worse when i got home last night and connected my own priner to my laptop i ran into the same problem. it stopped printing after about 16 pages06:41
dsmith_weird06:41
ScorpKingdsmith_: didn't change a thing.06:41
dsmith_I se the same printer on a two kubuntu boxes06:42
dsmith_we never had any issues06:42
dsmith_what distro?06:42
dsmith_8.04?06:42
dsmith_7.10?06:42
ScorpKingall logs shows prinint is perfect except for the number of pages printed06:42
ScorpKing8.0406:42
dsmith_hmmm test page work?06:42
ScorpKing7.10 is fine06:42
ScorpKingnope06:42
ScorpKingprint*06:42
* dsmith_ scratches head06:42
* ScorpKing bites his nails..06:42
dsmith_so 8.04 no work, 7.10 does work?06:42
ScorpKingcorrect06:43
dsmith_hmmmmmmmmmmmm06:43
dsmith_now we not why06:43
dsmith_now to find a reason06:43
ScorpKingit's on more that one machine with different printers06:43
dsmith_know why I meant06:43
dsmith_this is for a busniess?06:44
ScorpKingin /var/log/cups/error_log i see "CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized"06:44
ScorpKingyes it is as well as my own printer at home06:44
dsmith_you could place a support call with say canonical, but thats like last resort06:45
dwidmann_laptopI've come to the conclusion that ksysguard 4.x is just plain cool :)06:45
dsmith_so it seems you cannnot add the printer06:45
navetzhow do I find out what my kernel version is ?06:45
dsmith_uname -r06:45
navetzhow do I find out what my kernel version is ?06:45
ScorpKingdsmith_: yeah or revert to 7.1006:45
navetzsorry06:45
dsmith_i never tried a downgrade06:45
* dsmith_ wonders if that would work06:46
ScorpKingdsmith_: it gets added by itself06:46
ScorpKingdsmith_: i'll reinstall06:46
dsmith_honestly, I never seen the problem your facing06:46
dwidmann_laptopI've not had much luck with printers in gutsy ... couldn't add a network printer myself. Seeing as I couldn't even get something so simple as that to work, I've indefinitely postponed upgrading the system with the actual printer ....06:46
dsmith_i run gutsy and have no problems06:46
mr-tthere are several changes to cups from 7.10 to 8.0406:47
ScorpKingah dwidmann_laptop :)06:47
dsmith_hp usb via cups share, hp network, xerox network printers06:47
dsmith_both work out of box06:47
dsmith_er.. all three that is06:47
dwidmann_laptop**s/gutsy/hardy06:47
dsmith_ScorpKing: I say reinstall to 7.1006:47
dsmith_it will save time06:48
dwidmann_laptopWith regards to gutsy, with the stuff from updates/security/backports installed, I had major issues with it then too.06:48
ScorpKingdsmith_: the 1020 works out of the box as well until it stops ;). yeah i'm just looking for the disk06:48
* dsmith_ motto is "if it takes more then 30-minutes, then try something else"06:48
dwidmann_laptopdsmith_: excellent motto06:48
dsmith_yep :) learned by lessons of pain06:48
dsmith_haha06:48
ScorpKingok guys i have to format this box. have fun and thanks for the help.06:49
dsmith_example: IT idiots hosed this guys machine.. I got it and reinstalled windows.... and handed it back06:49
ScorpKinggenii: i'll take a look into your suggestion tonight on my laptop06:49
dwidmann_laptopI suppose if I'm ever in dire need of heat, my laptop could probalby do the job .... I'm sitting at about 62C right now (was at 100% load, not at the moment though)06:49
dwidmann_laptopah, that would be why, qt finished compiling06:50
dwidmann_laptopdown to 46C already .. nice06:50
dsmith_he was shcoked that we are paying for IT idiots that wasted an entire day and it only took me 30-mins06:50
dsmith_lol06:50
dwidmann_laptophehehe06:50
navetzdoes anyone know any good virtulization software I can use? vmware and virtualbox both are having trouble with my new kernel06:51
dwidmann_laptopIt's always fun to make IT idiots look like IT idiots.06:51
dsmith_needless to say running wireshark on the domain server has it privs06:51
dsmith_lol yep!06:51
dwidmann_laptopnavetz: those are the ones I would have recommended06:51
dsmith_vmware hands down06:51
dsmith_which kernel?06:52
dwidmann_laptopnavetz: what sort of trouble?06:52
sirPenginavetz: I'm assuming you mean free software? those are the only two I know06:52
dsmith_its not liking his popcorn06:52
dsmith_:P06:52
nainefoh noes06:52
navetzdwidmann_laptop; dwidmann_laptop; dsmith_; vmware and virtualbox both don't work from the repos.06:53
dsmith_download vmware and install via cmdline06:53
navetzdwidmann_laptop; dwidmann_laptop; dsmith_; I tried vmware by installing it from a tar file, and it was sorta working, but then I installed vmware tools and all I get is blue screen of death restart06:53
dsmith_sudo ./vmware-install.pl06:53
dsmith_vmware tools on the guest host?06:54
navetzdsmith_: yup06:54
dsmith_create a snapshot before you install vmware tools06:54
navetzdsmith_: i think its to late now06:54
dsmith_and do a revert06:54
dsmith_lol06:54
dsmith_install again06:54
dsmith_just delete and recreate it06:55
dsmith_reinstall the OS06:55
navetzdsmith_: I guess its my only option, kinda sucks though, I had abuot 10 gigs of stuff06:55
* dsmith_ must have ~25 OS's on his vmware06:55
dsmith_wait06:55
dsmith_you can mount a rescure dick06:56
dsmith_rescue disk06:56
dsmith_trying booting into windows with one06:56
navetzdsmith_: like a windows xp rescue disk?06:56
dsmith_yea06:56
dsmith_I would try that if you need things out of it06:56
dwidmann_laptopdsmith_: wow, that's quite a few06:56
dsmith_yea..06:57
ol--lo_25!!!06:57
dsmith_I have samba server, terminal server.. and others..06:57
dsmith_I am using it like an esx server lol06:57
navetzdsmith_: does any xp cd count as a resuce disk? or do you need it a specific disk?06:57
dsmith_sugar crm, vista06:57
dsmith_hmmm06:57
dsmith_one min06:57
dwidmann_laptopnavetz: I'd think any should count.06:58
dsmith_with windows you can just reinstall the c:/windows portion06:58
ol--lo_xp and rescue in one sentences doesn't sound good :)06:58
dsmith_but you have to be careful06:58
dsmith_lol06:58
navetzdsmith_: what do I have to look out for?06:58
mr-twhich way thethe windblows06:59
navetzlol06:59
navetzI knew I shouldn't have upgraded to hardy06:59
navetzthere were really no benefits to doing it.07:00
dsmith_http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page07:00
dsmith_I always stay one distro back07:00
dsmith_navetz: I am not sure it would work but you can try booting the iso into the vmware image07:01
mr-tyou also could try to rescue your files with a copy of knoppix07:01
dsmith_and try retrieving your datat07:01
navetzdsmith_: yea, I was fooled into upgrading07:01
dsmith_knoppix is another good one07:01
navetzmost of my files are ok, there are just a couple major ones I will lose07:02
dsmith_navetz: lesson lerned create snapshots of your images07:02
dsmith_and make backups07:02
navetzbut I generally kept everything on a shared samba folder07:02
geniinavetz: I keep a separate partition just to run new releases on. That way i can just boot up to the old one in case07:02
dsmith_genii: how do you do that?07:03
dsmith_install to say /newdistro?07:03
navetzgenii: yea?07:03
mr-tI'm dual booting on two different boxes07:03
geniidsmith_: For instance I have sda1 with 7.10 and sda2 with 8.04    so grub gives me the option of whichever07:03
dsmith_ahhhhhh never considered doing that07:03
dsmith_hmmmmmm07:04
navetzgenii: is that the same as dual booting?07:04
geniinavetz: Yes, same idea07:04
dsmith_I have my own home partition07:04
navetzdsmith_: I did that as well07:04
dsmith_next full install I do I will try that07:04
navetzmy problem with that is that you have to install all your programs twice07:05
dsmith_big deal07:05
geniinavetz: Just use the clone feature to export your list to the new install07:06
genii!clone07:06
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate07:06
mr-tone box i have has to have xp and i use k804 duel with that the othe box has u710 and fluxbuntu07:06
navetzgenii ... oh my god.07:06
dwidmann_laptopgenii: hmm, a bit different from how I do it, definitely looks cleaner.07:06
navetzgenii I think I am going back to 7.1007:06
dsmith_!automate07:06
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning07:06
geniidsmith_: I also have a tftp/netboot install server which can do 6.06 thru to 8.04 (soon will add 8.10)07:07
dsmith_sweet!07:07
yao_ziyuandoes anyone experience vbox problems after upgrading to 2.6.24.17 kernel?07:07
dsmith_bet that blows minds genii07:08
dsmith_heheh07:08
navetzwhenever I try different distributions like PCLinuxOS or Fedora, I always have to go back to Kubuntu because of the package manager07:08
navetzyao_ziyuan: yes07:08
navetzyao_ziyuan: I was not able to get virtualbox to work today07:08
yao_ziyuannavetz: my problem is my keyboard doesn't work in a vm07:08
geniidsmith_: Yes, especially when you plug in a Mac and it does the yaboot and knows what architecture to install07:08
dsmith_i dont like either07:08
dsmith_lol07:08
navetzyao_ziyuan: what kinda keyboard do you have ? USB?07:09
yao_ziyuannavetz: no. ps.07:09
dsmith_bet it is07:09
dsmith_ooops07:09
navetzhaha07:09
yao_ziyuanit's a software problem07:09
dsmith_ps3 keyboard...heh07:10
navetzyao_ziyuan: oh, I am not sure, sorry.07:10
yao_ziyuaneverything was ok with previous kernels and OSE kernel drivers07:10
dsmith_ummm ps2 should work07:10
dsmith_yao_ziyuan: revert to the prior kernel07:10
geniiWell it's been fun but I require sleep, all the coffee notwithstanding :)  See you all in 8 hours07:10
yao_ziyuandsmith_: that sounds bad to me :(07:10
dsmith_..24.17 is 8.04?07:11
yao_ziyuandsmith_: .24.17 is the latest kernel in ubuntu repository07:11
dsmith_hmmm, thats what I dont run that bleeding edge stuff anymore07:11
navetzdsmith_: i think the kernel update came out within the last couple days07:12
navetzdsmith_: i have it to07:12
navetzalso it sounds like I am talking about HIV not a kernel update07:13
dsmith_ whe 8.10 comes out I will upgrade07:13
dsmith_lol07:13
dsmith_ahhh you dont need any AV protection07:13
dsmith_contracted a virus in linux.. never1111107:13
dsmith_!07:13
dsmith_guess he did not like my ans.07:14
dsmith_well time for bed07:14
dsmith_cyas07:15
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usamahashimiHello Everyone!07:58
ol--lokannst du alle sehen07:58
usamahashimiIs there any software (GUI based) which can tell me that which PCs of my network are downloading how much data?07:59
sleepyhello08:07
sleepyi guess eveyone is asleep08:10
ubunturos!hi08:11
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:11
ubunturos!hi | sleepy08:11
ubottusleepy: please see above08:11
andrew181614how do i play mp3 files in amarok, it reports that "the engine cannot play them"?08:11
sleepyuse vlc08:11
andrew181614i would like to use amarok08:12
sleepynever heard of it08:12
sleepyare you new to ubuntu08:12
andrew181614no08:12
andrew181614im using kubuntu btw, amarok is for kde interface08:12
ubunturos!mp3 | andrew18161408:12
ubottuandrew181614: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:12
sleepyoh ok08:12
sleepynever used it before i have only used ubuntu08:13
sleepyi am so green08:13
sleepyhow long have you been using Linux08:13
andrew181614on and off, 2 years08:14
sleepycool08:14
sleepywhere are u from?08:15
andrew181614just when im bored08:15
andrew181614new zealand08:15
sleepylol08:15
sleepyoh cool ur lucky08:15
sleepywhat a awesome place08:15
andrew181614yeah08:15
jd_does anyone know how stable/unstable the kde4.1 beta is?08:15
andrew181614we get a lot of american gangster copycats though08:15
sleepyoh no08:15
sleepyi am so sorry08:15
andrew181614for what?08:16
sleepythe copycats08:16
andrew181614nah its their faul;t, not your lol08:16
sleepyno but i bet that seems lame08:16
andrew181614they are wannabes though, no drivebys or anything like that, just walk around tryin to look though08:16
sleepybunch of people trying to act like 50 cent the a an acent08:17
andrew181614yeah08:17
sleepywith a acent08:17
sleepyoh god, i think i just threw up in my mouth08:17
sleepylol08:17
sleepypeople like that make me sick.... how bought just be yourself08:18
sleepyhey andrew how do i join another channel using this program08:19
sleepyWHOIS aroo08:21
holycowhallo08:22
sleepywhats up08:22
holycoware there any 4.1 beta packages available?08:22
sleepyman i have no idea08:22
holycownada, i just thought to checkin on 4.108:23
sleepyjust downloaded this irc to get on ubuntu irc08:23
sleepyhow do i go to that channel do you know08:23
holycowi mucked about with the latest 4.1 stuff available in kubuntu and was pleasantly suprised to find out a whole bunch really sweet stuff ... like effects ... just working dandy08:23
holycowaha08:23
sleepykubuntu is different then ubuntu right08:23
holycowjust type in /join #channelnamehere08:23
holycowwell no08:23
holycowits actually the exact same08:24
sleepycool08:24
holycowall that is different is that you are using a different program for your desktop08:24
sleepyoh ok just different layout08:24
holycowinstead of gnome in ubuntu you are using kde and they just call it kubuntu08:24
sleepythats kind of what i thought but was not sure08:24
holycowthere is also xubuntu that uses xfce i think08:24
holycowbut its the exact same underneath08:24
holycowthink of it like clothes for your operating system08:24
sleepylol08:24
sleepyvery cool08:25
sleepyi like that08:25
sleepylol08:25
holycowguis, widgets, pulleys and doohickeys for your machine08:25
sleepyi like your nic08:25
sleepyholycow08:25
holycowdanke sir08:25
holycowditto08:25
holycowwhat else do you want to know?08:25
sleepyx herion addict08:25
sleepylol08:25
sleepywhat is the meaning of life08:25
holycowwell i can't exactly help you with that08:25
sleepylol08:25
* holycow explodes08:26
jd_holycow: did you say you've used the kde4.1beta08:26
holycowno no, i've wanted to08:26
sleepyis it way different08:26
holycowi've used whatever the latest kubuntu updates are available andnow you can turn on window effects08:26
holycowthey are really nice and smooth, very impressive08:26
jd_yeah the work well if you have a decent card with decent drivers... which i don't08:27
holycowconsidering how far they have come with just this little bit that makes it into kubuntu repos, 4.1 has to be awesome08:27
holycowwell08:27
holycowi have this a umpc08:27
holycowwith an intel onboard chipset08:27
andrew181614FIXED, had to install these packages, for fture reference or other people:08:27
andrew181614libxine1-ffmpeg08:27
andrew181614 libxine1-gnome08:27
andrew181614 libxine1-plugins08:27
holycow900mhz cpu08:27
holycowi wouldn't say i have anything great08:27
holycowto be honest, if you have the worst onboard 3d accelerated chipset you should be fine08:28
sleepyu have a 90008:28
jd_well..... most just be that i try to turn on too much... it works good for about 5 minutes and then it starts messing up... but of course i'm always doing 50 things onmy computer08:28
holycowso am i08:28
holycowi do i.t. for a living, i used to be a 3d animator08:28
holycowthis isn't evena laptop but a umpc08:29
sleepywhat do u do know08:29
sleepynow08:29
holycowanyway, just saying, i used it for a while and didn't notice anything fantastically wrong with the 3d acceleration08:29
holycowwell i run i.t. for companies08:29
sleepyrun what08:29
holycowi.t.08:30
sleepycool08:30
sleepyok got a stupid question how do you install flash for you internet browser08:31
sleepyi am green i know08:31
sleepyits all new08:31
holycow!flash08:31
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash08:31
sleepythank u08:32
ForgeAushey all :)08:32
sleepyhello08:32
sleepywhat is the difference between ubuntu and GNOME or is that the same also08:33
jd_gnome is the display manager08:34
jd_ubuntu uses gnome08:34
sleepyoh ok cool08:35
sleepythanks man08:36
sleepyi know os x and windows real well but Linux not so much08:36
* emilsedgh thinks that its not really good to call gnome or kde 'display manager' or 'window manager' or even Desktop Enviroments08:36
sleepylol08:37
emilsedghthey are now much bigger than display managers and window managers08:37
jd_well it's the simplest explanation.... if you have a better one i'll take it to heart and keep it forever08:37
sleepylol08:37
sleepyu guys are great08:37
jd_x is the window manager technically08:37
emilsedghKDM/GDM are display managers. KWin/Metacity are Window managers. in KDE, Plasma + KWin is Desktop Enviroment (kdebase-workspace)08:38
sleepyoh boy what did start08:39
jd_well then.... and gtk and qt are the toolkits08:39
sleepynerd war08:39
sleepylol08:39
jd_well.... i have to sleep08:39
Tm_Tsleepy: no wers, son08:40
emilsedghits no war.its simple discussion sleepy08:40
emilsedghnight jd_08:40
ForgeAushehe GTK and QT may be alternate toolkits but neither is multually exclusive :)08:40
jd_bye08:40
ForgeAusthats the good thing about them :)08:40
sleepyno i know08:40
sleepyi just thought it was funny08:40
Tm_Tsleepy: no its not funny ;(08:41
andrew181614what do i use to view pdfs in kubuntu?08:41
holycow!kpdf08:42
ubottuFactoid kpdf not found08:42
andrew181614thanks08:42
sleepyoh ok08:43
clau30 is kde 4.0.4 available for gutsy?08:43
sleepythis is a bad ass link  http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ08:46
sleepylove it08:46
holycow*ooo*08:48
holycowporn08:48
sleepylol08:48
sleepyok got to go to bed see ya on the flip side08:48
harolddongIs there any documentation on getting the nvidia driver installed and working with kubuntu hardy?  Everytime it just corrupts X.  I have a geforce 7600 gs and installing it through the restricted manager doesn't work.  I've tried the nvidia-glx and the nvidia-glx-new packages from the repos as well as nvidia's own stable and beta downloads08:51
zorglu_q. im planning to install kubuntu on a EEEpc, how large is the install on disk ?08:52
holycow!nvidia08:53
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:53
holycowas small as you want08:53
holycowif you get the server alternate installer you can just install a minimal core08:53
holycowand then add whatever you want on top including kubuntu-desktop08:54
zorglu_holycow, ok and when i install kubuntu 8.04 cd, how much disk is used after the install ?08:54
holycowi'm not exactly certain maybe a gig?08:55
zorglu_holycow, ok thanks08:55
harolddongthanks ubottu but I know how install the driver.  The problem is that what should working isnt at this point.08:56
zorglu_harolddong, ubottu is a bot/program08:57
harolddonghaha08:57
harolddongoh08:57
harolddongI've never had this problem with a kubuntu release before and a search through the forums seems to indicate that this is a recurring problem with hardy but there doesn't seem to be one unified solution08:57
aditya@anyone, whats the best FTP client for kubuntu09:07
Tm_TKonqueror09:07
Tm_T!best09:07
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.09:07
adityafor uploading also, can we use Konqueror09:07
aditya@ubottu , sorry i`m noob09:08
Tm_Taditya: yes you can09:09
aditya!konqueror09:10
ubottuFactoid konqueror not found09:10
Tm_Tftp://foofoo@bar.ltd:port09:10
Tm_Tetc09:10
aditya@Tm_T thank ya09:10
aditya!FTP client09:12
ubottuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd09:12
liassisthey how to install openbox on kubuntu will it run if my system is 256mb ram 1.4ghz processer and 64mb vram09:13
=== desti_T2 is now known as desti
ScorpKingis there a guide on sharing a linux printer so windows can print from it?09:25
ScorpKing!printing > me09:27
slougiwhat's the official kubuntu dev chan?09:28
ScorpKing#kubuntu-devel i think09:28
Tm_Tthat's the one09:29
slougithanks09:29
RameTuxi heard that kde 4.1 beta 1 has release, so when will kubuntu provide it?09:30
Tm_Twhen packages are built09:30
RameTux:D09:31
Tm_TRameTux: really, we can't provide packages when we don't have them, but they are on the way, so hold on09:32
RameTuxok, thanx, i'll hold on to it ;-)09:32
simihi, i have a kubuntu 8.04 kfr 3.5 and today at start up an application named adept notification appeared on mn my task bar and on the desktop(a small window) .This was not there and i do not like it, i want to hide it09:35
ol--losimi: you might have upgrades waiting there ...09:39
ScorpKingsimi: you running compiz?09:40
ScorpKingsimi: close adept_notifier09:41
ScorpKingg2g. cheers guys09:41
linux__slm09:57
linux__millet09:57
linux__hello09:57
andrew12345is there any way to make a belkin wireless n1 usb adaptor work under kubuntu?09:58
thefishanyone here done a ubuntu > kubuntu-desktop > kde4 install?10:01
thefishi want to install the kde4 kubu, dunno if its better going for a fresh install or if theres a recommended "crossgrade" path..10:01
linux__slm10:05
linux__abiler10:05
linux__hiç türk yok mu ya10:05
linux__bi fikir verse10:05
linux__bize10:05
linux__kafam basmadı gene10:05
stdin!tr | linux__10:11
ubottulinux__: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.10:11
andrew12345ive set up ndiswrapper and the approapriate driver for my belkin wireless usb, and ndiswrapper reports it ws working, but how do i set up the network?10:15
ChoreboyWould a new kernel reset any of my settings?10:25
thefishChoreboy, nope10:25
andrew12345hy guys, i installed my wireless card with ndiswrapper, but cant see it in network devices, whats up?10:26
Choreboyonce upon a time (a day or 2 ago) I could press the power button on my laptop and be presented with various shutdown options. Now it does nothing.10:26
thefishChoreboy, it may break stuff that needs kernel modules though, like nvidia,vmware,virtualbox etc but these are mainly done automatically anyway10:26
needhelphi i have 3 computers of same hardwares and ubuntu, one of them has its cdrom on /dev/hda , where the other two is on /dev/hdc.. the cdrom on /dev/hda is always giving a cdrom: hda: mrw address space DMA selected.. what could be wrong?10:32
noaXessdes anybody work with pdfedit? i have the problem, that i somethimes hangs, if i insert any simple text into a pdf..10:33
yakuzii've a question: is it safe/smart to run a laptop on kubuntu without firewall/virusscanner for windows virusses (dual boot laptop)?10:33
Choreboyyakuzi are you worried about picking up windows virii in kubuntu and it affecting your windows partition?10:36
yakuziChoreboy: yes a bit...because my windows is acting a bit weird since i'm using kubuntu much more than windows (and no i don't mean the windows typical strange behavior ;-)      )like (found with a packt sniffer) kazaa searching other computers in the network, while i never had kazaa installed, and the firewall and virusscanner in windows are up to date10:39
Choreboyyakuzi: I'm certainly no expert but it's a fair assumption to say just as windows programs can't run native on linux (without some sort of virtualization) the same holds true for windows virii10:41
yakuziindeed but what i was thinking was in linux i download a file...and when i open it in windows it starts messing around. but well, the windows "problems" are easy to solve...reinstall windows...(altough i barely use it)10:43
Choreboyyakuzi: I see what you are saying now. Windows is accessing files you've downloaded with Kubuntu. Does your virus scanner have the ability to monitor these files?10:44
Choreboyi.e. does it have a problem reading the partition?10:45
alebocohi guys, my battery life is really short after i upgraded to hardy, is there something i can do?10:46
yakuziwell my virs scanner scans all in and out going traffic and when i want it scans all the ntfs/fat32 partitions (i don't use the linux partition to store data, it's more easy with the dual boot)10:47
Choreboyreinstalling would fix the problem but I wouldn't go to the trouble. You may want to try a few online scanners such as Kaspersky, Trend Micro, i think Eset has one too10:48
yakuzivirusscanner doesn't give warnings so i'm gessing it was something strange (we were testing some homeplug stuff etc when we encountered the packets of kazaa, no big deal anyway)10:48
Choreboyare you sure no one had access and played around with kazaa, even for a day?10:49
ChoreboyI hear it can dig its tentacles pretty deep and is difficult to completely uninstall10:49
yakuziif i leave my laptop alone it's locked...unless a colleague placed kaza on it during a lab sesion while i was away for around 15 minutes...which i doubt)10:50
Choreboyit does sound unlikely :-)10:51
yakuzianyway that's windows's problem not linux :p10:51
Choreboyif you did get something kazaa-like, your scanner may not view it as a problem10:52
Choreboysomething may be disguising itself as kazaa and doing port scans?10:53
yakuzipossible...10:53
yakuzibut i'm off now, continue studying10:53
Choreboysorry I couldn't be of more help10:54
yakuzino problem10:54
andrew12345Hi, when i try to do a ./configure (im trying to install a program) i get a file not found error, any help?10:56
Choreboyandrew12345: I probably won't be much help, but how are you trying to access the file? Did you browse around and locate the file to make sure it's where you think it is?10:58
Choreboyandrew12345: Am I completely off base? Did I misunderstand your question?11:01
Pennycookandrew12345: If you run "ls | grep configure" is the output empty?  If it is, then there isn't a configure file in your current directory.11:03
andrew12345hang on, was afk11:05
andrew12345running that commands11:05
andrew12345output of ls | grep configure is empty11:05
PennycookThen ther'es no configure file.11:05
andrew12345so ill have to configure it manually11:06
Pennycook"./" just means "in the current directory", so ./configure tries to run a file named "configure" in your current directory.11:06
andrew12345ok thanks11:06
Choreboyahhhh I wasn't too far off base!11:06
PennycookIt entirely depends what you're trying to install.11:06
andrew12345its a wireless card driver, ive got build instructions now, but cant understand them lol11:08
geekerm11:08
geek./ means to execute a script i thought?11:09
geekandrew12345: not all source has to  have a config script read the readme/instructions11:09
PennycookWell, ./ will try to execute anything with the "x" bit set.11:09
andrew12345i cant understand the readme11:10
andrew12345which is what i jsut said11:10
Pennycookandrew12345: What exactly are you trying to install?  I know it's a wireless card driver, but with more information we might be more helpful.11:10
=== geek is now known as faileas
faileasandrew12345: well, we don't know what's there do we, what card?11:11
andrew12345ok, its a belkin n1 wireless USB adaptor, ralink 2870 chipset and i have native linux drivers for it, it has a readme, but i am new to linux and cant understand it11:11
faileaserf11:12
faileasralink11:12
wimpieswhat do you ppl use as TV viewer application ? I use kdetv but since the upgrade to 8.x the images colors are messed up11:15
makdaknifewimpies: kaffeine works great for TV11:16
makdaknifewimpies: I like it because it is the same application that I use for DVDs etc...11:17
Choreboywimpies: I've never tried it with TV, but I love VLC. Quick and easy, plays anything you throw at it.11:17
PennycookI use MythTV.11:18
wimpiesbut how do you change channels then ? VLC nor kaffeine seem to have switching capabilities11:18
PennycookKinda bulky, but means I can record stuff, too.11:18
wimpiesMythTV I use on my media center (but I am considering switching to linuxMCE ... check out the features)11:19
jussi01!info tvtime11:19
ubottutvtime (source: tvtime): A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0.3ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 676 kB, installed size 1928 kB11:19
jussi01thats wht I use11:19
makdaknifewimpies: kaffeine can change channels.. but you need to configure the channels first... see the DVB options etc11:19
Pennycookwimpies: Couldn't you install a MythTV front-end to connect to your media center?11:19
makdaknifePennycook: you can record in kaffeine as well :)11:20
Pennycookmakdaknife: In the background?  Or on several different channels at once (so long as they are on the same multiplex)?11:20
jussi01!mint | wimpies: remember that we dont support linuxMCE11:20
ubottuwimpies: remember that we dont support linuxMCE: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate11:20
wimpiesjussi01 : seems to be some repository problem ...apt-get install gives errors11:21
makdaknifePennycook: I haven't tried recording on several channels at once, but I don't think it should be a problem11:21
Choreboywimpies: I don't know how to change channel but a quick google search suggests it's possible11:21
pucko.11:21
AlenHello11:22
wimpiesmakdaknife : does kaffeine also support v4l2 ? I do not see any options for it ...11:23
gianlucaciao a tutti11:29
geek_girlhow do I configure Kopete to hide away/join/part messages?11:29
gianlucahi11:30
administrateurpls need french irc11:31
geek_girlalso, how do I set Konqueror as my default file browser (as opposed to Dolphin)11:32
administrateursystem settings/11:32
administrateurapplication default11:33
geek_girlis there a way to set konqueror as the default for files, but not webpages? (i like firefox)11:34
emilsedghgeek_girl: yes!11:35
geek_girl(cause dolphin seriously sucks)11:35
Pennycookgeek_girl: Run kcontrol and find the "File Associations" option.  In the "Known Types" list, expand "inode" and you can set Konqueror as the default for "directory" and "mount-point"; just make sure it is above Dolphin in the application preference order.11:36
emilsedghgeek_girl: Konqueror->Configure->File Associations.find inode/directory (or something like that) and give Konqueror more priority11:36
ActionParsniphey all11:36
geek_girlwonderfull - thanks emilsedgh11:37
ActionParsnipive just downloaded the server install ubuntu 8.04 and would like to do a text only install, doI need to boot to the live environment? Can anyone please advise11:37
ActionParsnipor do I need the alternative cd?11:38
ChoreboyActionParsnip: I'd help if I could. Didn't I see you in ##Windows the other day?11:40
ActionParsnipChoreboy: indeed. i use both but more ubuntu / mandriva11:41
ChoreboyActionParsnip: this seems to indicate you need the alternate cd- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems11:42
ActionParsnipcheers Choreboy11:44
ChoreboyActionParsnip: no problem. Enjoy.11:45
maikeldelnaihi11:50
ActionParsniphi maikeldelnai11:50
Choreboyhi indeed.11:50
Choreboyaaaaand goodbye.11:51
ActionParsnipsomething i said?11:51
Choreboybad breath.11:51
Choreboymaikeldelnai: long time no see11:51
ActionParsnipwould make sense, just had mackerel sarnie11:52
ChoreboyActionParsnip: That's an odd breakfast. You must be across the pond?11:53
kaminixhttp://kaminix.pastebin.com/m10a7570a This is a useless debug output, right?11:53
stdinkaminix: correct11:53
ActionParsnipinded, UK represent11:53
kaminixHow does the KDE backtrace work? Can you actually backtrace an application crash after it has crashed?11:54
stdinyou attach gdb to it's process and tell it to do a stack trace11:56
kaminixstdin: So it will never be as good as running it in gdb to start with?11:57
stdinyou can get some more information from running it directly with gdb, but most useful information is in the stack anyway11:57
kaminixI see11:58
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stdindrkonqi usually gets the information needed anyway11:58
kaminix:)12:00
josadoes anyone have experience in starting a program with Yakuake on startup?12:00
ActionParsnipjosa: you dont start programs WITH yakuake at startup12:03
ActionParsnipjosa: you can start yakuake and any other apps you want, yakuake doesnt run the app12:04
ActionParsnipjosa: cd to ~/.kde/Autorun and make symlinks to your apps you want to run at startup12:05
faileashmm12:06
josaargh... im not good at explaining things12:06
ActionParsnipfaileas: sup?12:06
faileasi need to add some files to a bootable iso... any idea what/how to do it?12:07
ActionParsnipjosa: do you want yakuake to run at startup...?12:07
josayakuake runs at startup by default i think12:07
josabut i want to make folding at home start at startup in yakuake12:07
ActionParsnipjosa: i always create the link myself12:07
Choreboyfaileas: in Kubuntu?12:07
faileasChoreboy: yes12:08
ActionParsnipjosa: oic, you run the command line client12:08
faileasin Kubuntu, but not to kubuntu12:08
* faileas is trying to add bios flashing software to a freedos disk.12:08
Choreboyfaileas: are you able to mount the iso image? Mount it, extract all files, include the new files, and re-burn12:09
Choreboyfaileas: that should work. I don't k now about bootable but it works for strictly data...12:09
faileasChoreboy: what's the command for mounting the image?12:09
Dr_willisThat wont keep the bootable feature.12:09
Choreboyahhh. Well shows what I know.12:10
ActionParsnipjosa: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/23/folding-home-installation-configuration-automation-ubuntu-debian-rhel-fc/12:10
ActionParsnipjosa: sets it up as a system service :)12:10
feierfoxhi12:10
Demonho-brhello ! please someone could help me to configure the skim, i would like to type in katakana but im trying to do it in skin and its not working ! someone know how i could do it, please12:10
feierfoxhow to clear the file-search-history in Konqueror12:10
Choreboyfaileas: ignore my comment. As the good doctor said, my method is just for adding data12:10
faileasChoreboy: okay12:10
* faileas goes see if there's a floppy version of freedos12:11
Dr_willisThe kiso program might allow altering bootable images.12:11
ActionParsnipfeierfox: Clear your history from the location bar by right-clicking on the bar. Then, select 'Empty Contents.' Your location bar history is now erased12:11
faileasDr_willis: i'll take a look, thanls ^^12:12
ActionParsnipfeierfox: theres more here http://www.ehow.com/how_2033414_erase-history-konqueror.html12:12
Choreboyfaileas: check this out http://ubuntufriends.wordpress.com/2007/03/31/edit-and-create-your-bootable-iso-image-the-easy-way/12:13
ActionParsnipChoreboy: nice link12:13
josanice, didnt think of system service... then there's just the drawback of not being able to see the progress with a single key12:14
feierfoxhmmm no12:14
feierfoxit doenst work12:14
feierfoxi want to clear the search-history for my lokal files12:15
ChoreboyI'd take a bow but I don't know how to do those "* Choreboy does this" thing12:15
Demonho-brwhat about skim12:15
Demonho-brscim12:15
Demonho-brsomething im12:15
Demonho-br:P12:15
ActionParsnipChoreboy:  its /me <first person verb>12:15
ActionParsnipfeierfox: http://www.konqueror.org/faq/12:15
* Dr_willis dances around like a fool12:16
* Choreboy attempts to do this thing12:16
ActionParsnipfeierfox: search the page for history. its there12:16
* Choreboy has succeeded.12:16
=== ubuntu is now known as Freethinker
* ActionParsnip cheers Choreboy's grasp of the /me command12:17
feierfoxthan it seems that my KDE is modified :/12:17
ActionParsnipfeierfox: thats the konqueror official faq12:17
ChoreboyI'm just glad I can actually be quasi-helpful to people in here. I'm very new to Linux but I can google with the best of em!12:17
Demonho-brhehe12:17
ActionParsniphehe me too, added with my little knowldge12:18
=== Freethinker is now known as Freethinker_AU
gauravi have exported "export DISPLAY=:1", but when i try to start Xephyr with the command "Xephyr -screen 1240x768 -ac :1 &" i get the following error :-12:18
gauravXephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?12:19
Dr_willisuse the full ip:1 type format?  for display perhaps12:19
gauravnope localhost:1 dosnt work12:20
Dr_willisthere is a X session running with display of :1 ?  the default first X display is 0.12:20
ActionParsnipfeierfox: http://www.minihowto.org/konqueror_howto/history_sidebar.jpg12:20
gauravDr_willis, but :0 is already taken by my default gui isnt it?12:21
Dr_willisif you dont have a 2nd X session going.. then there is no display :1.12:21
Dr_willisUnless im t0otally missunderatand what you and xepher are doing12:21
Dr_willis!info xephyr12:21
ubottuPackage xephyr does not exist in hardy12:21
gaurav!info xserver-xephyr12:22
ubottuxserver-xephyr (source: xorg-server): nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.1~git20080131-1ubuntu9 (hardy), package size 1874 kB, installed size 4184 kB12:22
Dr_willisif i have a 2'd X session going. i could in theory start a xterminal there by doing a 'DISPLAY=localhost:1 && xterm '12:22
feierfoxthanks ActionParsnip , but it doesnt concern the history for searching-local files!12:22
faileasChoreboy: cool. i'll give it a shot12:22
Dr_willisa nexted X server runs inside another X server.. wouldent it be displayed on :1 then?12:22
Dr_willisor :0  i mean the one its netste on12:23
gauravnope :0 dosnt work12:23
gauravFatal server error:12:23
gauravServer is already active for display 012:23
gaurav        If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock12:23
gaurav        and start again.12:23
Dr_willisi would say its time to check the xephyr docs.12:23
gauravyup, i though, it was a ubuntu specific thing, so decided to ask here first :)12:24
Dr_willishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62000312:24
ActionParsnipfeierfox: then ive no idea man, sorry12:24
Dr_willisfirst hit on google for 'xephyr ubuntu'12:24
ActionParsnipfeierfox: could you do a screen grab and add an arrow pointing towhat you want clearing12:24
Dr_williswith pictures! :)12:24
feierfoxno :D12:24
feierfoxi hardly try to hide that content :D12:25
feierfoxthats why i ask12:25
feierfoxbut now i have found a way to solve it12:25
DragnslcrWell that was fun12:25
DragnslcrGo to open a Kopete message and X restarts12:25
ActionParsnipfeierfox: ok, ive got a pic of konqueror up, where on a standard window is it?12:25
codertuxhello, how can I updae from kubuntu dapper to hardy? :-?12:26
Choreboyspeaking of kopete, it won't reconnect AIM automatically for me.12:26
faileascodertux: generally its a better idea to do a fresh install, especially between so many versions12:26
feierfoxin the history are only listet 20 or so entries... if i do random searches like "kjl" or "iojlkj", after a while they will replace the old entries in the history12:26
ActionParsnipcodertux: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:26
gauravDr_willis, checking, thanks :)12:26
feierfoxthat is not elegant but it works12:26
Choreboyyahoo will stay connected, or reconnect, but if I lose AIM i have to manually reconnect12:26
Dr_willisfor dapper -> ha4dy. you must do updates/upgrades to each release thats in btweeen i hear.12:27
Dr_willisor was that lts? lts to lts. is supposed to be supported..12:27
Dr_willisnon lts -> ya gotta go each release in between.12:27
ActionParsnipDr_willis: won't dist-upgrade sort it?12:28
codertuxfaileas: arrrrr, so there is no official tool for doing that? :-/12:28
Choreboysudo apt-get-er-done12:28
faileascodertux: not between so many versions i think12:29
Choreboynobody enjoyed my command?12:30
Dr_willisActionParsnip,  i alwyas do clean installs.. so not sure.12:30
Dr_willisthere is a upgrade tool.12:30
ActionParsnipDr_willis: me too, seen too much heartache in here from upgrades12:30
Dr_willisand its reccomended over doing a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'12:30
gauravdidnt work :(12:31
ActionParsnipDr_willis: couldnt the sources.list file be changed to the next version up and upgraded, thn again until hardy is hit12:31
ChoreboyI thought updgrades weren't a real issue if you had the appropriate partitions...12:31
Dr_willisgaurav,  i got it working fine here. followign that guide12:31
NickPrestaActionParsnip, dist-upgrade will remove packages to satisfy dependencies to fulfil an upgrade, regular 'upgrade' won't.12:31
Dr_willisupgrades can always be an issue. :)12:31
gauravi must be missing something then12:31
ActionParsnip!upgrade | codertux12:31
ubottucodertux: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:31
* ActionParsnip shrugs12:32
=== mi is now known as yo
Dr_willisgaurav,  i just cut/pasted the lines. one spawned a xeperar window with a display of :1.0 that i could spawn new apps on.12:32
Dr_willisgaurav,  you do NOT set DISPLAY befor you run the xephyr line.12:32
Dr_willisgaurav,  and really you dont need to 'export' it.12:32
gauravdoh! i set it before i ran xephyr12:33
Dr_willisXephyr -ac -screen 1280x1024 -br -reset -terminate 2> /dev/null :1 &               Then 'DISPLAY=:1.0' then 'xterm &' or whatever term ya want12:33
Dr_willisgaurav,  xephyr IS the new display12:33
gauravroger!12:33
Hatlhi! is there a way to find out how a package (i.e. hal) was build? (configure parameters and so on)12:34
ActionParsnipok wth is xephyr  exactly?12:35
Dr_willisActionParsnip,  X session in a window.12:35
ActionParsnipXephyr is an X server that runs inside another X server.12:35
* Choreboy shuffles off this mortal channel12:35
Dr_willisa  Nested X session12:35
ActionParsnipDr_willis: why is that useful?12:35
Choreboytoodles, all.12:35
ActionParsnippeace out Choreboy12:35
Dr_willisActionParsnip,   why wouldent it be:)12:35
Dr_willisyou can have a seperate desktop in a window12:36
ActionParsnipDr_willis: with multiple desktops it seems unnecessary to me12:36
=== eagles05 is now known as eagles0513875
Dr_willisActionParsnip,  you are confusing the term 'desktop' with 'x session'12:36
eagles0513875hey all12:36
eagles0513875desktop is an x session12:36
ActionParsnipDr_willis: its still a holder for an app window12:36
Dr_willisI can have several X sessions in different windows . one running KDE, one running gnome, another running whatever.12:37
ActionParsnipDr_willis: aaaah thats useful12:37
Dr_willisits a X 'session' in a window12:37
eagles0513875like when u hit ctrl+alt+f112:37
Dr_willis You could do similer things with vnc if you wanted to.12:37
eagles0513875wait nm ill shut up12:37
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: i use cli mainly so am oblivious to most of this12:38
Dr_willisYou could spawn extra 'X sessions' on the tty's 8+ if you wanted to use alt-ctrl-F8  and up. :)12:38
eagles0513875usually when i used to try run another session i would end up with lockups12:38
eagles0513875does anyone know if there is a photo shop channel12:38
codertuxActionParsnip: looks like upgrading from dapper is supported12:39
codertuxhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#head-8ee23c592a6b8e8b7d40a5b363cf5fbc7ed3178a-212:39
ActionParsnipcodertux: awesome12:39
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: http://searchirc.com/search.php?SCHANS=1&SSORT=SIZE&N=freenode12:39
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: thats ALL the channels12:39
eagles0513875ActionParsnip12:39
eagles0513875ty12:39
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: np bro12:40
eagles0513875also need to figure out how to use adobe flash cs312:41
ActionParsnipcedega is good for cs312:41
ActionParsnipafaik12:41
eagles0513875what bout crossover12:42
ActionParsnipsame kinda deal12:42
eagles0513875ok sweet ill have to try it12:44
flaccidadobe paid crossover iirc for that :)12:49
ActionParsnipflaccid: which one: http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?acronym=IIRC12:50
flaccidfirst12:51
ActionParsnipcool12:51
apparleHow do I get hardy with KDE412:51
flaccidthat was a big deal.. its not porting but it was a lot of duning12:51
flaccid!kde4 | apparle12:52
ubottuapparle: KDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:52
apparleI want to install kubuntu Hardy12:52
eagles0513875hey flaccid12:53
ActionParsnipapparle: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php12:53
ActionParsnipapparle: scroll a little way down to remix12:53
apparleI have slow net connection, any other except download12:54
ActionParsnipapparle: could use shippit12:54
ActionParsnipapparle: or ask a friend with a sweet connection to pull it down for you12:55
ActionParsnipapparle: or use the torrent and do a little at a time12:55
* ActionParsnip prefers fluxbox12:55
apparlenothing like shipi etc??12:56
apparle*shipit12:56
ActionParsnipapparle: yeah shippit.kubuntu.org12:56
ActionParsnipshould work12:56
ActionParsnipmaybe12:56
apparleBut I think they donot ship remix12:57
eagles0513875apparle y not ship normal then install kde412:57
eagles0513875*why12:57
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: slow connection12:57
apparleas  I said before I have slow connection12:57
reesewhen I run the cdromupgrade script from the dvd, I get an error message "Could not authenticate the following packages" and it lists a lot of packages such as apache, php etc12:58
ActionParsnipreese: you run it with sduo?12:58
eagles0513875sry heading between dreamweaver and here12:59
apparleI'll be back in 5 min12:59
ActionParsnip*sudo12:59
reeseyeah kdesu "cdrom12:59
reese"/cdromupgrade"13:00
reeseI choose not to upgrade from the net, cause I have a very slow connection13:00
eagles0513875ActionParsnip outa curiosity is there an easy how to other then the one on the wiki cuz thats uber vague13:00
ActionParsnipreese: is it a full kubuntu cd but you are using it to update your system?13:00
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: the wiki one where you add some sources?13:01
eagles0513875ActionParsnip no where you do a full upgrade13:01
eagles0513875from lets say gutsy to hardy13:01
reeseActionParsnip: it's a dvd13:01
ActionParsnipreese: is it a bootable dvd?13:02
apparleAny way13:02
reeseActionParsnip: a live one, yes13:03
ActionParsnipreese: on th first screen (if you boot it) should be verify disk13:04
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:04
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: usually does the trick13:04
apparleOk guys I want Hardy with KDE4 for x86 PC.13:05
apparleI will dowload13:05
reeseActionParsnip: so do I have to boot from it and verify it? and can I upgrade from there?13:05
eagles0513875!upgrade13:05
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes13:05
ActionParsnipreese: you dont have to verify but it will ensure your data is ok13:06
apparleActionParsnip: give me the link again13:06
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eagles0513875!upgrade | apparle13:06
ubottuapparle: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes13:06
reeseActionParsnip: and what do I do, if the data is ok?13:07
ActionParsnip!cookie | apparle13:07
ubottuFactoid cookie not found13:07
eagles0513875ActionParsnip seems like the upgrade pg has been improved since last i took a look at it13:07
apparleI don't want to upgrade. A fresh install13:07
eagles0513875which was just after hardy release13:07
eagles0513875apparle kubuntu.org13:07
ActionParsnipreese: not sure but check the data then head back here13:07
eagles0513875apparle ignore me13:08
ActionParsnipanyhoo i gotta check some servers13:08
ActionParsnippeace13:08
apparleeagles0513875: what13:08
eagles0513875apparle you are wanting to download the remix right13:08
apparleya13:08
eagles0513875the site u want to get it from is kubuntu.org13:09
* eagles0513875 ponders shipping remix cd's for a small fee13:10
xstScrolling using the trackpad on my laptop suddenly stopped working today. How can I enable it again?13:12
rich__I have a question about synce. Would there be anyone kind to answer ?13:16
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dthackerrich__: please ask, and we'll see.13:19
rich__i had installed synce, and when i am running command:13:19
rich__sudo synce-serial-start13:19
rich__it is starting for 5 seconds and is dying...13:19
rah_how can i install *.tar.gz13:21
Dragnslcrrah_- by extracting it13:21
dthackerrich__: do you have any error messages?13:21
Dragnslcr.tar.gz is a compressed archive (like .zip)13:21
rich__synce-serial-start cannot find the dccm process.13:22
rich__Without dccm your PPP connection will soon terminate!13:22
dthackerrah_: use the tar commond to extract the archives.  Type "man tar" at the command line to get the options you need to use.13:22
Picirah_: See the README and INSTALL files inside the archive for instructions on how to install it, but always check the package repositories before installing from source.13:22
dpreacheri cannot compile any packages from source because ./configure halts saying that the gcc i have is not able to create executables. what packages do i need to install on default kubuntu gutsy install to let me compile packages from source? i could download the repos, but i have the source packages downloaded already,so i wanted to try them. please help me. NB i don't have my machine with me...13:23
dpreacher...now...so i won't be able to do trial-n-error methods. thanks in advance13:23
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rah_thanks13:23
DragnslcrHm, looks like the package maintainers broke Firefox13:24
dthackerrich__: that seems fairly clear, (you're missing a process), but I don't know the specifics of synce.  I would ask in #ubuntu-server, or in the forums.  I do not know if there is a special channel for ubuntu on embedded devices.13:24
DragnslcrThey upgraded xulrunner to 1.9rc1, but not firefox-3.0, and firefox-3.0b5 requires xulrunner-1.9b513:24
rich__there is #synce, but nobody there ;(13:25
dthackerrich__: yes, sometimes irc is hit and miss. you could ask your question there and see if anyone shows up.13:25
rich__i just want ot check something. i'll reboot my mashine, and i'll come back. thx dthacker13:26
dthacker!source13:27
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html13:27
dthacker!compile13:27
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)13:27
dthackerdpreacher: ^^13:27
dpreacherdthacker, reading...13:28
dthackerdpreacher: somtimes "unable to create" is permissions problem.  Are you running ./configure with sudo?13:28
dthackermore coffee afk 2 mins13:29
dpreacherdthacker, the thing is i don't have always access to internet. have to take the laptop to the computer lab, get things  downloaded, get back in hostel n do the compiling. i had downloaded packages on an earlier distro and wanted to recompile those n see.13:30
dpreacheri will have to install build-essential and automake and i hope that it works...13:30
dthackerdpreacher: ok.  good luck and don't forget about sudo.13:31
dthacker:)13:31
dpreacheri use sudo a lot13:31
dpreacheranother problem is that the network i would connect my machine too blocks, freenode and ubuntu does not allow mibbit.com users, dunno if thats the case with kubuntu also13:31
faileasdpreacher: thats cause mibbit gets abused13:32
dthackerdpreacher: I don't know if mibbit.com is blocked or not.13:32
shane_goodmorning13:33
dpreacheri understand faileas, but i wish my univ. had the brains to know that it would really help the students to connect to freenode to join rooms related to open source projects13:33
faileasdpreacher: get someone outside to run a cgi-irc server?13:33
faileasuniversities? brains? ;p13:34
faileaswhich alternate reality? ;p13:34
dpreacherwish i could throw that univ. admin out13:34
dpreacher:p13:34
PennycookHey, some of them are good.  My university's CS department is Unix-based and each machine has XChat pre-installed. :)13:34
shane_i am having a prob with sun java because i am 64 bit13:34
dpreacherdthacker, why doesn't kubuntu gutsy come with firefox although it comes with openoffice but not koffice? also is there a firefox-qt version, they think having firefox-gtk is native enough?13:34
dpreachershane_ is 64 bit13:35
dpreacher:D13:35
faileasdpreacher: you can always install it yourself ;)13:35
faileasfirefox ain't the native browser for anything anyway13:35
dthackerdpreacher: CD size limitations13:35
shane_dpreacher: yes is 64 i am running sudo apt-get install ia32-sun-java6-bin and it cant reach the archive13:36
* dthacker goes to work. bye for now!13:36
dpreacherhow does ubuntu package it then? is there really something like Kubuntu DVD, what are the main highlights of it...like major packages?13:36
rah_i already extract *.tar.gz  it was to shall script. How to do with it?13:37
Picirah_: what are you trying to install?13:37
rah_flash player13:37
Picirah_: Flash is in the Ubuntu Package repositories13:38
Pici!flash | rah_13:38
ubotturah_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash13:38
dpreacherkubuntu isn't as flexible about default package choices, compared to ubuntu. only kde packages throughout and no packages that users have tried out on windows and want to try on linux. is it because of the kde's large size?13:38
shane_Odd-rationale: hey odd u on today13:39
shane_i am trying to install sun java on a 64 bit kubuntu hardy,i am running sudo apt-get install ia32-sun-java6-bin and its giving me coudnt reach arcive any sugestions13:44
daurnimatorwhen is 8.04 out?13:44
daurnimator(or is it alreadY)13:44
Picidaurnimator: 2008.04 = April 2008, so yes.13:44
Picidaurnimator: year.month13:44
frybye daurnimator using it now...13:44
daurnimatorah, I'm an idiot13:45
daurnimatorI didnt read the front page properly13:45
daurnimatornews post title was a bit stupid >.<13:45
dpreacheris there a way to query the installed kubuntu version from the command line?13:45
daurnimatorhow is it?13:45
frybyedaurnimator: imho - super...13:45
Picidaurnimator: lsb_release -a13:46
daurnimatorhuh?13:46
frybyedaurnimator: but here is not for general chat.. see #k**-offtopic13:46
daurnimatorshould I be trying standard or remix?13:46
rich_- does anyone knows what's odccm or dccm is ?13:46
Picidaurnimator: oops, wrong person.13:47
Picidpreacher: lsb_release -a13:47
dpreacherPici thanks13:47
ActionParsniphey all13:50
rich_- does anyone knows what's odccm or dccm is ?13:51
jhutchinsrich_: Have you tried google?13:51
ActionParsniprich_: let me search13:51
ActionParsniprich_: DCCM is part of the SynCE project: http://synce.sourceforge.net/ This application is required to be able to communicate with a remote device.13:52
dpreacheris there a way to use aptitude to see if a package is installed already or if i say sudo aptitude install <package>, it installs only if the package does not exist and a way to view a package's detailed descripttion?13:52
DOOM_NXno, really, is there any way to have a voice call on the msn network?13:52
ActionParsnip!dccm | rich_13:52
ubottuFactoid dccm not found13:52
ActionParsnipDOOM_NX: pidgin maybe13:53
Picidpreacher: If you try to install something with aptitude  and its already there, it wont install it.13:53
DOOM_NXpidgin how13:53
Picidpreacher: also, aptitude show packagename13:53
rich_action: yeah, i am still having problem. everytime13:53
ActionParsnipDOOM_NX: dunno, i dont use voice13:53
rich_i am connectin my PDA13:53
DOOM_NX:/13:53
rich_it requires it13:53
DOOM_NXwell pidgin doesn't support voice calls13:53
ActionParsniprich_: then get synce installed and you should have it13:54
rich_i have synce installed, this is erro message:13:54
ActionParsnipDOOM_NX: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-applications/18305-voice-chat-msn-messenger.html13:55
bdoghow do I get konversation to stop auto loading at boot.13:55
dpreacherthanks Pici the show command also shows if the package is installed or not13:55
rich_Warning!13:55
rich_synce-serial-start cannot find the dccm process.13:55
rich_Without dccm your PPP connection will soon terminate!13:55
ActionParsniprich_: http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2F2006%2Fs1709%2F51s09%2F51s09.asp13:56
rich_checking...13:56
nox_can anybody help? i just installed updates and now my ff3 is gone!13:57
rah_how to play files mp313:57
nox_use amarok13:57
ActionParsnipnox_: ff3 is still beta. you could try uninstalling then reinstalling13:58
nox_yes but13:58
ActionParsniprah_: use amarok and it willoffer the codec to you13:58
nox_the update removed it13:59
ActionParsnipnox_: thats cos its not official release yet13:59
nox_when i try to reinstall it i get an error13:59
ActionParsnipwhats the error?13:59
nox_something with xulrunner13:59
nox_wait13:59
ActionParsnipcan we have the exact error please13:59
nox_wait a sec14:00
nox_http://paste.ubuntu.com/15527/14:01
ActionParsnipnox_: sudo apt-get install xulrunner14:02
ActionParsnip!xulrunner14:02
ubottuFactoid xulrunner not found14:02
ActionParsnipXULRunner is a runtime environment developed by the Mozilla Foundation for providing a common back-end for XUL applications14:02
nox_ok ill try14:02
gauravnox_, moin moin14:03
ActionParsnipnox_: sudo apt-get remove firefox3 (or whatever it is)14:03
nox_hi14:03
nox_firefox3 IS removed14:03
ActionParsnipnox_: then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get instal firefox (whatever it is)14:03
nox_it has been done by adept_updater14:03
nox_the problem is that is simply updated and the adept_update removed firefox14:05
frogonwheelsmy problem at the moment is that my upgrade remove konqueror14:05
frogonwheelspitb14:05
nox_does noone else have this prob?14:05
Picinox_: You have the proposed repository enabled?14:05
nox_i'll check14:05
ActionParsnipnox_: i use the stable ff214:05
nox_ff3 is really nice14:06
nox_;)14:06
ActionParsnipnox_: its beta and unstable14:06
frogonwheelshow does ubuntu go with downgrading?14:06
ActionParsnipfrogonwheels: never had to do it sorry14:06
nox_isnt it rc1 right now?14:06
nox_doesn't matter14:06
nox_works fine for me14:06
Picinox_: RC1 isnt in the repositories  yet.14:06
avihaybActionParsnip: I've been useing ff3 for a while now, and I give it no mercy14:06
ActionParsnipno idea, i just wait for updates to pull it down14:06
avihaybbut it's solid14:06
ActionParsnipim in no hurry to update14:07
nox_Pici what is proposed repo?14:07
ActionParsnipnox_: you could get the nightly source of xulrunner and compile it yourself14:07
Picinox_: Its a repo that haps proposed packages.  They are there to be tested and afaik the problem you are describing only happens with that.14:07
Picis/haps/has/14:07
avihaybonly once did it crash while I was asleep without any warning or singe, but then again, I just ran it again, and within 5 minuts, it was as if nothing had happend14:08
nox_I'll post my sources.lst14:09
ActionParsnipnox_: apparently sudo dpkg -r j2re1.4 fixes it14:09
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76609314:09
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frogonwheelsJust for fun- I managed to install a kubuntu+edubuntu onto a 4GB flash drive and boot off it in my son's classroom this-morning ;)14:09
frogonwheelsI preinstalled it all last night.14:09
ActionParsnipfrogonwheels: nice one14:09
frogonwheelswas quite nice - they were using the machine for  mspaint.14:10
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frogonwheelswas painful14:10
frogonwheelsI showed them tuxpaint - which is just great14:10
rah_what is the best web for linux?14:10
frybyeI have hardy and just installed google-earth - it can't connect to the server - suspect a firewall blockage.. how do i editthis.. ?14:10
frybyestep by step please I am a linux newbie...?14:10
ActionParsniprah_: best web?.. i find www is excellent14:11
EmJayservus @ all14:11
ActionParsnipfrybye: depends whatfirewall you have14:11
ActionParsnipfrybye: there is no single answer to linux questionsas allsystems are different14:11
frybyeActionParsnip: remember the way it was b e f o r e the www...? ;)14:11
nox_ActionParsnip didnt work for me14:11
ActionParsnipfrybye: all too well14:11
frogonwheelsfrybye: more info - what's the firewall? just your own box? what?14:11
nox_still get the same error message14:12
ActionParsnipfrybye: was fine, seems like all people do is web browse14:12
frogonwheelswork? a router? modem/router?14:12
frybyeI dont seem to be able to find a firewall in the system or system settings...14:12
noni|dahi . sorry im a linux newbie and i want to connect to irc channel from a german browser-game .. what shall i doß14:12
rah_how to check my IP address?14:12
frybyefragon I dont know how to find what firewall i have..14:12
frogonwheelswww.whatismyip.org14:12
ActionParsnipfrybye: well can you ping the googleearth server it is connecting to? maybe you need to update server settings14:12
frogonwheelsfrybye:  I mean what is the network lead from your computer plugged into?14:13
noni|dacan someone help me pls? :)14:13
frogonwheelsfrybye:  modem? adsl router?14:13
ActionParsnipnoni|da: all you need is the irc server name then connect just as you did to this one with the other server name14:13
noni|daok14:13
noni|dabut i do not know the name :(14:13
Dr_willistime to check the website for the game14:14
rah_in case of not conncet to the internet, just LAN connection.14:14
Dr_willisconnect with whatever web client they offer and see who it connects to.14:14
llutzrah ifconfig14:14
noni|daok i will look for it14:14
noni|dathank you14:14
frybyefrogonwheels: it seems to be trying to contact www.google.de and I can ping that with 29ms...14:14
frybyea particular port blocked??14:14
frogonwheelsfrybye: not really likely - it should be nat'd and that will let the data come back in.14:15
frybyefrogonwheels: i have a router combined with adsl modem...14:15
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frogonwheelsok - so any blockages are more likely to be associated with the router.14:15
frogonwheelsyou shouldn't need to have a firewall on the linux box.14:16
ActionParsnipfrogonwheels: you can have one though14:16
frybyeit says error code 29 and i should check if firewall os blocking -path/google-earth/googleearth-bin but don't know how to do this??14:16
ActionParsnipfrogonwheels: specially if your linux box is acting as your router14:16
frybyefirewall IF... blocking...14:16
frogonwheelsActionParsnip:  well yeah- but it seems like he's got a sep router anyway.14:17
llutzfrybye: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195382&page=314:17
frybyefrogonwheels: i dont know if a firewall is installed as default or not...?14:17
rah_again, how i go to command line?14:17
llutzrah_: alt-f2: konsole14:18
ActionParsniprah_: run konsole14:18
abhishekhello i am using kubuntu kde4 and the plasma workspace crashes frequently http://paste.ubuntu.com/15530/ is the bactrace of error14:18
frogonwheelsabhishek: not particularly surprising.14:18
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abhishekfrogonwheels: is there any solution ?14:19
ActionParsnipabhishek: no idea, i dont run it14:19
rah_can not open !!!!!14:19
rah_konsole14:19
ActionParsniprah_: open what?14:19
frogonwheelsabhishek: umm.. wait till it's fixed? ... use kde3?14:19
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* frogonwheels shrugs14:19
* ActionParsnip suggests fluxbox :)14:20
rah_can not open konsole!!!!!14:20
abhishekfrogonwheels: can't do it man already installed it14:20
ActionParsniprah_: so you click K button -> run program and type konsole14:20
frogonwheelsabhishek: you could disable some of the eye-kandy stuff..14:20
abhishekfrogonwheels: all effects are disabled14:20
frogonwheelsabhishek: when I was running debian+kde4 that helped my stability14:20
abhishekjust widgets are running14:20
ActionParsniprah_: hit enter, black konsole is yours tokommand :)14:20
abhishekfrogonwheels: i even updated the whole thing by doing apt-get install kde414:21
abhishekbut no relief14:22
frybyellutz unfortunatly - the chmod thing did not do it apparently..14:22
ActionParsnipabhishek: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde414:22
noni|dahmm sorry guys it do not work :(14:22
abhishekActionParsnip: hmmm gotta try that14:22
noni|daQuakenet is this the server?14:22
llutzfrybye: are you on 64bit?14:23
frybyellutz - yup14:23
llutzfrybye: http://groups.google.de/group/earth-free/browse_thread/thread/2b81639af6dfea4014:23
ActionParsnipabhishek: ive seen few people witha stable kde4 install. I run fluxbox personally14:23
abhishekActionParsnip: now again the whole thing crashed14:24
noni|daQuakenet is this the server?14:24
abhishekActionParsnip: just this window is running and everythin behind is grey14:24
llutznoni|da: no it's the network14:24
noni|daok14:24
ActionParsnipabhishek: you could remove it completely and reinstall14:24
noni|daand i can not connect in the network14:24
noni|dawhy?14:24
frybyellutz - how do I uninstall 4.3 and where to find 4.2??14:25
abhishekActionParsnip:only this window is running and everything else behind is grey i have to restart the X server everytime14:25
llutznoni|da: http://staff.quakenet.org/servers.phtml14:25
rah_i use ubuntu 8.04 to run command line is the same to the other linux?14:25
llutzfrybye: sudo aptitude purge google-earth14:25
frybyes14:25
frybyetks14:26
ActionParsnipabhishek: id log out, log into KDE3 and wait for it to improve14:26
noni|daOK thx =)14:26
llutznoni|da: there you find a list of servers, use one to connect14:26
abhishekActionParsnip: looks like i have that as the only option thanks neways14:26
abhishekthanks for the help guys the kubuntu irc channel is really helpful keep it up guyss14:26
frybyellutz: nothing happens...14:26
frybyeperhaps i dont have aptitude installed or...?14:27
ActionParsnipabhishek: if you can help, pitch in too14:27
llutzfrybye: then use packagemanager of your choice to purge/remove googleearth14:27
abhishekActionParsnip: yes i will if i get time ...i am using fedora and ubuntu for a long time just started with kubuntu ...not such a nice experience but its fine :-(14:28
ActionParsnipllutz: might have installed it with the script14:28
frybyellutz - sorry - that is beyond my knowledge.. but I see aptitude itself is installed..14:28
llutzActionParsnip: then he should know how to remove14:29
ActionParsnipabhishek: then use ubuntu, its the same as KUbuntu except it uses KDE instead of gnome14:29
frybyellutz  - do i need aptitude-dbg???14:29
llutzno14:29
frybyeok.. wonder why id didnt work...?14:30
llutzfrybye: sudo aptitude purge googleearth14:30
abhishekActionParsnip: i am planning on doing the same thats y i am not formatting and installing anything new14:30
debianCan I increase the size of my Wubi instalation?14:30
abhishekActionParsnip: fedora 9 is also coming i heard it has a stable version of kde414:30
ActionParsnipabhishek: no need, just install the new DE and log onto it, then uninstall the old14:30
ActionParsnipabhishek: not all apps are kde4, so you'll have kde3 libs as well14:31
abhishekActionParsnip: can i use kde3 now how exactly can i do it?14:31
frybyeI hve it ... googleearth - no "  -  "14:31
frybyeadministration directy locked.. not openable...?14:32
Hamrahi, after upgrading from gutsy to hardy, i stopped seeing the splash screen during login, and i cant find the modulke for it's settings in neither kcontrol nor system settings!14:32
llutzfrybye: then your "[15:26] <frybye> llutz: nothing happens.." was wrong, it has given you an error (package not found)14:32
Hamramodule*14:32
ActionParsnipabhishek: log out and change the environment, it'll be in a drop down some place14:32
frybyehang on... the packet manage was running a process on the admin dir apparently.. just a min..14:32
llutzfrybye:  in german it's the line: "Konnte kein Paket finden, dessen Name oder Beschreibung auf  google-earth passt"14:33
frybyeseems to have done it - still have an icon .. but...14:33
frybyeyour right .. it did not find the stuff...14:34
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llutzfrybye: so please be more specific with messages/errors if you expect help :)14:35
frybyeah ha - is it googleearthlinux????14:35
ActionParsnip!splash | Hamra14:35
ubottuHamra: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.14:35
frybyellutz:  you underestimate my lack of knowledge,.. I dont know how to copy from the terminal window...14:35
llutzthe one from medibuntu is called simply "googleearth"14:35
ActionParsnip!kde-splash | Hamra14:35
ubottuFactoid kde-splash not found14:35
genii!usplash14:36
llutzfrybye: but you can read :)14:36
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork14:36
frybyeyeah it says it cant find the packets with googleearth in the name...14:36
* ActionParsnip mumbles sudo mv /stupid/splash/screens /dev/null14:37
frybyeit found googleearth-package ...14:37
frybyesorry...14:37
llutzfrybye: so you haven't installed it from repos?14:37
frybyebut not googleearth on its own if I understand right..14:37
frybyefrom a bin14:37
Hamrait's not usplash i want to change, it the login splash, but for kde, not GNOME :S14:37
llutzfrybye: why?14:37
ActionParsnip!usplash | Hamra14:37
ubottuHamra: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork14:37
frybyecos that is how I read it had to be done...14:37
llutzalways try to use deb-packages14:38
llutzfrybye: try using the install to de-install, not sure if it offers that option14:38
frybyelike just command line de-install googleearth ... or???14:39
frybyesorry I am a bit lost here...14:39
HamraActionParsnip: usplash is the splash appearing during boot, i want to edit the that comes after putting my user and pass14:39
llutzuse the installer14:39
ActionParsnipHamra: ive no idea about that, sorry14:40
frybyehang on... need to look to see what the command was ---14:40
ActionParsnipfrybye: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19538214:40
ActionParsnipfrybye: thats how to install and uninstall it14:40
Hamra!ksplash14:41
ubottuFactoid ksplash not found14:41
Hamra!info ksplash14:41
ubottuksplash (source: kdebase): the KDE splash screen. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2 (hardy), package size 665 kB, installed size 1344 kB14:41
Hamrafound it!14:41
ActionParsnipnice one Hamra14:41
ActionParsnipHamra: personally i wouldnt worry about a splash thingy14:41
llutzjust important to know how to deactivate all those splashs14:42
frybyellutz it was installed with "... sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin .."14:42
frybyeso i should do that command again to try and uninstall or??14:42
llutzfrybye: try it, i don't know that installer14:43
Hamrait looks weird to see a static blue screen while logging in, thnx anyway, byez14:43
Dr_willisif you installed googleearth to the users directory.  you could just remove the directory that it inztalled to.14:43
ActionParsnipfrybye: check the link above ^14:43
frybyeok sorry i hadnt seen the link...14:43
ActionParsnipfrybye: thats got the steps to install and uninstall14:44
frybyeright - thks - i will try..14:45
ActionParsniplooks good to me14:45
guilhermeblancoHi... today I decided to remove firefox-2 and install firefox-3, since recently firebug released a version that is compatible with it. I removed all firefox-2 packages and installed ff-3. I installed firebug, which was ok, but my application started to fail in some parts, mainly due to json fails. I decided to remove firefox-3 and back to firefox-2. I uninstalled all extensions, removed the packages of ff-3 (including xulrunner1.9) and installed14:45
guilhermeblancofirefox-2 again. Now, I'm unable to install any addon (read as firebug from addons.mozilla.org). It keeps me telling: "Unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203". Any ideas to solve it?14:45
ActionParsnipweird how google wont just put a package on repos14:45
liassist hello, will openbox with KDE run well on my system is 256mb ram 1.4ghz processer and 64mb vram?14:45
ActionParsnipliassist: sounds fine14:45
liassist<ActionParsnip> how do i do this14:46
liassistActionParsnip, the commands for this or steps (links)14:46
ActionParsnipliassist: http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Installing14:47
ActionParsnipliassist: you really should websearch before asking in here14:47
liassisthow would i remove KDE's WM14:47
ActionParsnipliassist: i'd run synaptic14:48
liassistActionParsnip, how to do this14:48
ActionParsnipK button -< run command. type synaptic, press enter14:49
liassistok so does ubuntu has all pakages listed in the "pakage depndencies"14:49
ActionParsnipwow talk about hand holding14:49
ActionParsnipliassist: it has the ones in the repositorys you have in /etc/apt/sources.list14:50
liassistso can it be done by "apt-get install openbox3"14:50
liassistbrb14:51
tim__I know this sounds like a dumb question, but as an asside, which version is higher out of firefox 2 and firefox 3?14:53
tim__is firefox 2 an internal fork?14:53
pagtim__, fx3 is newer, if that's what you mean..14:53
guilhermeblancoff 2.0.0.14 and ff 3.0.0.0 RC114:53
tim__ok14:53
guilhermeblancoin repo we have 3.0.0.0 Beta 514:53
tim__rep14:54
tim__*yep14:54
guilhermeblancolet me try my question again...14:54
hoopoewhy did today's update remove firefox altogether?14:54
guilhermeblancoHi... today I decided to remove firefox-2 and install firefox-3, since recently firebug released a version that is compatible with it. I removed all firefox-2 packages and installed ff-3. I installed firebug, which was ok, but my application started to fail in some parts, mainly due to json fails. I decided to remove firefox-3 and back to firefox-2. I uninstalled all extensions, removed the packages of ff-3 (including xulrunner1.9) and installed14:54
guilhermeblancofirefox-2 again. Now, I'm unable to install any addon (read as firebug from addons.mozilla.org). It keeps me telling: "Unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203". Any ideas to solve it?14:54
Picihoopoe: Because you have the Proposed repository enabled.  Proposed updates are potentially broken (like this one was)14:54
hoopoetnx14:55
ActionParsnipguilhermeblanco: try renaming your firefox profile folder in ~/14:57
guilhermeblancok, one sec14:58
ActionParsnipguilhermeblanco: make sure all firefoxes are closed14:58
guilhermeblancook... reinstalling ff14:59
ActionParsnipguilhermeblanco: install ff2 dude14:59
guilhermeblancoActionParsnip: yeah... I'm downloading... I did a autoclean & clean in apt just to make sure15:01
ActionParsnipyou could do sudo apt-get -P firefox to purge settings15:01
ActionParsnipi think thats the syntax15:01
Piciapt-get remove --purge15:01
mikesa81sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox15:01
ActionParsnip--purge == -P. same deal15:02
ActionParsnip--purge is just more readable15:02
guilhermeblancook, installed15:02
mikesa81:)15:02
guilhermeblancoI'm going to install firebug15:02
ActionParsnipguilhermeblanco: ok, give us a firefox &15:02
guilhermeblancowhich was the cause of my issue15:02
ActionParsnipguilhermeblanco: id make sure it runs first without adding more stuff15:03
guilhermeblancoit's working15:03
ActionParsnipawesome15:03
guilhermeblancolet me install15:03
guilhermeblancodo you recommend firebug from addons.mozilla.org or from getfirebug.com?15:04
guilhermeblancothe second one has more recent packages15:04
ActionParsnipi dont use either15:04
mikesa81try the recent packages15:04
mikesa81why not?15:04
ActionParsnipwhy don't I use firebug?15:05
mikesa81addons. isnt always the fastest to add the latest packages15:05
ActionParsnipoh i getcha15:05
guilhermeblancok... 1.2 or 1.1? it seems 1.2 is only compatible for ff3... but it's not explicit... it tells that 1.0.5 users should use 1.2 (which 1.0.5 is the ff-2)15:06
guilhermeblancothe assertions are controversial in firebug page15:06
ActionParsnipim out now15:06
ActionParsnipsee ya later kids15:06
guilhermeblancoActionParsnip: thanks15:06
ActionParsnippeace15:06
guilhermeblancoit worked15:07
guilhermeblanco=D15:07
guilhermeblancoI used 1.1.015:08
guilhermeblancomikesa81: thanks for you too15:08
guilhermeblanco=)15:08
mikesa81guilhermeblanco: no prob15:09
krishna_ggkhi ppl15:09
krishna_ggkhow do i get qt4 examples using package install  on hardy kubuntu ?15:09
cbrsearch for it in the package manager maybe?15:10
krishna_ggki tried apt-cache search, but none of them had examples mentioned in them15:11
krishna_ggkwill try qt4-demos15:12
cbrtry synaptic, it gives a nice graphical interface15:12
cbrfor searching packages and watching descriptions etc15:12
krishna_ggkok15:12
krishna_ggkthanks15:12
fudusis there a way of getting opensuse's app menu in kubuntu 8.04?15:13
geniikrishna_ggk: PErhaps kuiviewer-kde4 along with qt4designer15:13
geniiqt4-designer            (forgot hyphen)15:14
fudusor to get mouse wheel scroll to go beyond 1215:14
schlangenhi, does anybody knows a cool ksplash for widescreen?15:18
krishna_ggkgenii: no luck, none of install examples15:19
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geniikrishna_ggk: There are many you could examine with the kuiviewer. apt-cache search libqt4|grep module             lists quite a few15:22
krishna_ggkgenii: wait, i'll enable backports and try15:24
geniikrishna_ggk: You might want to ask in #kubuntu-kde415:24
krishna_ggkqt4-demos is the one i guess15:26
krishna_ggkgenii: anyway thanks :)15:26
geniikrishna_ggk: np15:27
npmkbnhalo15:27
npmkbnanybody know how to install hp laserjet 1006 in kubuntu?15:28
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alanxhi, can somebody help me I need upload files to a web server from a path, how do I do that?15:34
jhutchins_wkalanx: scp15:47
reesewhen I try to upgrade from the dvd to 8.04, it says "Could not authenticate some packages" and it lists a lot of them. is there a way to solve this?15:51
frueberyou shouldn't need to authenticate them to install them15:51
frueberIt just means they are refusing to take responsibility for them15:52
reesefrueber: it lists packages like apache, php etc. and the the upgrade stops15:55
ThomasDhi all15:58
ThomasDcan some check what the right permissions for the /tmp/ dir are, cuz something messed them up :/15:58
ThomasDand now I get a buch of errors like this15:58
ThomasD** (gvim:15197): WARNING **: Wrong permissions for /tmp/orbit-thomas-f0f0f07015:58
ThomasDapplications work fine, but errors annoy me15:59
ThomasDanyone16:00
ThomasDplz16:00
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shane_can anyone explain y i cant get ca.archive.ubuntu.com to work i have been trying to access it in a terminal and i keep getting errors16:10
shane_all i keep getting is Unable to connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com http:16:11
shane_if it helps im trying sudo apt-get updates16:12
shane_no s ofcourse16:12
san_i have kubuntu hardy with KDE4, would someone tell me please how to install gnome on it?16:13
jcfpshane_: the ca. server is up but a http connection times out. Just use another mirror instead.16:13
shane_i am using apt-get update so i dont get to chose mirrors16:13
shane_jcfp:  i am using apt-get update so i dont get to chose mirrors16:15
jcfpshane_: everybody can choose mirrors by editing /etc/apt/sources.list16:15
jcfpshane_: just replace the ca. mirror with something else, say nl. and rerun apt-get update16:16
The_ManU_212envy-ng detects my ati radeon 9200 correctly, but says that the legacy driver which works with this card not available is for hardy, what to do for 3d acceleration?16:17
shane_jcfp: ok where do i edit do i just run terminal with edit16:17
=== keith is now known as compilerwriter
tim__san_: you want gnome as a second desktop?16:18
tim__san_: getting gnome installed should be simple enough, just apt-get it16:18
san_tim_: yes, that's exactly what i want16:19
san_tim_ sudo apt_get install gnome ?16:19
jcfpshane_: any text editor with sudo; something like 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' or 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' should work fine16:19
tim__yeah that'll fetch it16:19
san_k thanx :)16:19
tim__but then you'll want a program for switching desktop,16:19
shane_jcfp:  TY16:19
tim__at startup or whatever...16:19
san_can't i choose it from the "session" menu?16:20
tim__is there a session menu?16:20
tim__oh sure then16:20
tim__yeah it should set itself up to go in there automatically16:20
san_k, i hope so... thanks :)16:20
tim__http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome16:21
tim__is a how to16:21
compilerwriterJucato I am afraid I did something stupid.  When I got the updates today it mentioned uninstalling firefox 3.0 and some lib that went along with it.  Since I had the newer 3.5 installed I thought that would be no problem.  ( I know I should not perhaps think so much.)  Now I either have no firefox or I don't know where it is to execute it.  I have tried find to no avail any suggestions.16:22
compilerwriter I am afraid I did something stupid.  When I got the updates today it mentioned uninstalling firefox 3.0 and some lib that went along with it.  Since I had the newer 3.5 installed I thought that would be no problem.  ( I know I should not perhaps think so much.)  Now I either have no firefox or I don't know where it is to execute it.  I have tried find to no avail any suggestions.16:24
compilerwriterI guess I should open my question to the masses now that I see Jucato is not on.16:25
llutzcompilerwriter: dpkg -l firefox*|grep ^i16:25
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san_tim__: thanks a lot, that was really useful :D16:28
shane_jcfp: no luck also i just tryed adept for updates and it gives me an error also,let me start at the begin,i am trying to install frostwire i followed install for 64bit kubuntu it stated i needed to remove java and reinstall the ia32-sun-java6-bin now i get the errors and adept is even crashing16:31
geniicompilerwriter: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <firefox version>     where <firefox version> is either: firefox-2      or: firefox-3.016:32
jcfpshane_: run apt-get update and put the error on pastebin.16:34
shane_jcfp: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)16:35
shane_jcfp: i no use dont like that but this is a short error16:35
geniicompilerwriter: For future reference, version 3.0 would be version 3.0, beta 5   and later will become 3.0, release candidate 1    then possibly other releases candidate versions, then 3.0, release16:37
jcfpshane_: have another apt process running somewhere?16:37
jcfpmaybe from adept, or a cron job?16:37
shane_jcfp: the errors for addept are signall 11 and signal 616:37
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compilerwriterThanks genii why did it have me uninstall it in the first place.16:39
shane_jcfp: yes addept had crashed i got rid of that and now im waiting for the serv to time out again and i will paste 4 u16:41
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jcfpshane_: also pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list in case you still get timeouts16:41
geniicompilerwriter: I don't know. PErhaps you have some nonstandard repositories which require lower lib versions than ff3 had.16:41
bayko7When I try to install kdegames, it won't go past [Waiting for headers], I tried through konsole aswell as adept?16:42
bayko7only for this specific package16:43
The_ManU_212envy-ng detects my ati radeon 9200 correctly, but says that the legacy driver which works with this card not available is for hardy, what to do for 3d acceleration?16:43
geniibayko7: Repositories are very slow. There was about 60Mb of updates overnight. Be patient16:43
bayko7is 20 minutes a long time at 0%??16:43
shane_jcfp: http://pastebin.ca/103317016:43
compilerwritergenii thanks I seem to have firefox back now.16:44
geniibayko7: Yes, it is. But it will either eventually time out or else start getting the files16:44
geniibayko7: If it times out try again later.16:44
bayko7ok, thanks16:44
geniicompilerwriter: You're welcome16:44
jcfpshane_: you're still using the canadian mirror... which apparently isn't working16:44
shane_jcfp: yes i understand that but when i try to access the edit in sudo it throws me an error also16:45
geniishane_: replace for the time being  ca.archive.ubuntu.com   with  debian.yorku.ca16:45
Dragonathheh, kaffeine went into a loop: preparing..., error - codec package installed!, preparing..., error - etc16:45
Dragonathwhat's wrong?16:45
bayko7how do you replace it with debian.yorku.ca16:46
geniiDragonath: I filed that bug yesterday16:46
Dragonathaha16:46
Dragonathdoes this mean no more videos for me today?16:46
geniiDragonath: With Totem, but I think may use same codec-detection and install stuff backend16:46
Dragonathis there an easy way for installing all those codecs for mplayer?16:47
shane_jcfp: can u give me the sudo command again to edit the mirror i will do it again and paste the error 4 that16:47
jcfpshane_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list16:48
shane_jcfp: ok that one opened kate 4 me now where am i changing16:49
geniiDragonath: I'm just curious, what codec is it that keeps giving the prob?16:49
jcfpreplace any occurence of "ca.archive.ubuntu.com" with some working server, like "nl.archive.ubuntu.com" or the one genii just suggested16:50
Dragonathgenii: it's an avi file I try to play, I don't know much more16:50
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geniiDragonath: Ah, OK. My bug report from yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/235648     Perhaps it's the Mpeg stuff.16:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 235648 in totem "Totem, infinite codec install loop (ON2/VP6)" [Undecided,New]16:51
chev_cheliosdudes, is there a problem with a server?16:51
compilerwriterAlright then ladies and gents, my next issue is an opensource accounting suite with a really sweet interface such that I won't be opining for Quickbooks pro.  I have tried gnucash and it just didn't do the job.  Perhaps someone out there has developed a really good frontend for it?16:53
geniicompilerwriter: PErhaps KMymoney16:53
shane_jcfp: now do i save the changes or is it ok16:53
genii!info kmymoney2 | compilerwriter16:53
ubottucompilerwriter: kmymoney2 (source: kmymoney2): personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.8-2 (hardy), package size 7021 kB, installed size 14412 kB16:53
jcfpshane_: should be. save, then re-run the apt-get stuff16:54
shane_ok16:54
shane_sudo apt-get update16:54
geniijcfp: Run first the sudo apt-get update     before running sudo apt-get upgrade   or similar, to renew the package lists16:55
jcfp;)16:55
geniibah misdirect16:55
* genii gets a new mug of coffee16:55
shane_ok that worked16:55
shane_sudo apt-get upgrade16:55
chev_cheliosdo I suppose to do apt-get autoclean or autoremove???16:56
shane_jcfp: ok they are both working now it must have been the ca sight not my system16:56
sigma_1234im so disappointed. theres no kde 4.1 beta 1 packages yet for kubuntu16:57
compilerwritergenii I will give that a try.  Perhaps it will work for me personally.  Is there and enterprises scale solution for corporate bean counters?16:57
robertknightsigma_1234: It has only been out a couple of days.  Give the poor guys a chance16:58
geniiInteresting. Did not see anything about DB migration in freenode MOTD16:58
shane_jcfp: in the future if i incure this error i can just go into kate again and change back nl to ca?16:58
geniicompilerwriter: None that i know of offhand16:58
Sneedlyhow do i install flash player on a x 64 system16:58
Sneedly!flash16:58
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash16:58
sigma_1234lol fair enough . i just dont get how the other distros have their packages so quickly16:59
compilerwritergenii where would it have popped up in my menu?16:59
chev_cheliosdo I suppose to do apt-get autoclean or autoremove???16:59
jcfpshane_: yes, no problem at all. those servers just mirror the exact same content.17:00
geniicompilerwriter: Look under Utilities or Office17:00
shane_jcfp: thank you iv got it all good now17:00
jcfpshane_: yw17:00
shane_jcfp: ok one more ? does kubuntu have a firewall or is it my dlink router thats blockin frostwire17:03
PitaKubuntu has a firewall, nothing is enabled by default, so it's probably your router blocking frostwire17:04
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shane_Pita:  ok will try and access it17:04
Sneedly!kde17:04
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde417:04
aljoschahello, my openoffice writer has a freeze and i didn't save many text, but at the moment i'm not able to save... is there an temporary file with my unsaved text?17:08
shane_ok i have tryed the firewall in router it apears to be disabled where do i find firewall in kubuntu17:12
stdinunless you setup the firewall in kubuntu, it's disabled17:13
tzdcan someone please tell me how to connect, via samba, to my usb hdd that's connected to my router? I have set up everything but i just can't connect to it? Samba never seems to work for me, even between computers... Please help someone?17:13
Sneedlyhelp please whats kdm and gdm17:13
whizl2hi,17:13
SneedlyI am trying to set up kubuntu for the first time and I dont want to make a mistake17:14
whizl2can someone help me with my usb microphone?17:14
Sneedly!kdm17:14
whizl2its in kmix,17:14
ubottuFactoid kdm not found17:14
geniitzd: So your rouer has an external USB HDD attached directly to it, as in a print server type of router, or it's attached to another computer, then to the router?17:14
tzdSneedly: kdm and gdm are two different desktops... KDE and GNOME17:14
tzdgenii: as a print server type17:15
stdintzd: display managers, not desktops17:15
Sneedlystdin: whats the difference17:15
tzdstdin: ok sorry, my bad17:15
stdinSneedly: the display manager is the thing that starts the X session and lets you login. both kdm and gdm let you log into any desktop environment17:16
whizl2the microphone is desingned for open systems,17:17
whizl2perhaps someone can help me?17:17
Sneedlystdin:  I thought switching to linux would be like a cake walk,  does it make a difference which i choose.  I mean I want whats headiest17:17
debian_Hello17:18
stdinSneedly: it's all about choice, now you actually have one :p I would suggest trying both Gnome and KDE to see which you like best17:18
stdinSneedly: they both provide the same functionality so it's down to preference17:18
simulacheck out KDE4 in the KDE4 remix... a little rough around the edges, but very pretty and usable17:19
USMarinehello debian_ norwegian17:19
whizl2where can i connect an usb microphone with me soundcard?17:19
debian_I need to get a real install of ubuntu from wubi...17:19
whizl2i mean i connect the microphone over usb,17:19
whizl2and the soundcard is as a card inside,17:20
USMarineSneedly kdm for Kde, gdm for gnome17:20
whizl2i can hear sound from the soundcard,17:20
whizl2but i cannot hear the voice over the microphone17:20
shane_ok i have made my router completely open now and i am still firewalled is there a way i can check and see if kubuntu is firewalled17:20
whizl2in kmix17:20
whizl2there are two devices,17:20
stdinUSMarine: you don't have to use kdm for kde and gdm for gnome17:20
whizl2once the soundcard and than the microphone separate17:20
USMarinei know, but they come bundled that way17:20
stdinyeah17:21
USMarineback in the day, kde couldn't do so many shutdown options if the login manager wasn't kdm17:21
USMarinedebian_ wubi?17:21
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Sneedlyill try out this kdm jawn.  i'll be back in a bit.  I was wondering how to get something like counter strike to work with linux but that is for another day17:22
stdin!wubi | USMarine17:22
ubottuUSMarine: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.17:22
Sneedlythank you all. well 3 or 4 that helped17:23
USMarinei heard about that, didn't know the name though17:23
debian_I need to boot livecds from grub17:23
debian_Can this be done?17:23
belzebub!kde417:23
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde417:23
geniitzd: Apologies for lag. Am at work and they required me for a period. What is the router model/make please17:23
jcfpshane_: frostwire may "detect" any pc behind a router as "firewalled" regardless of whether there's any firewall on it17:24
tzdgenii: no problem :) Asus WL-500gP17:24
geniitzd: OK. Some time to research, I'll report back17:24
tzdgenii: ok, thanks!17:24
whizl2can someone help me with my microphone?17:25
tzdgenii: i should mentioned i've got OLEG custom firmware installed on it, latest version17:25
USMarinewhizl2 tias17:25
USMarinetry and see17:25
geniitzd: Ah, good to catch me then. Is there a website for the maker of the firmware?17:25
USMarinewhizl2 http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=ubuntu+usb+mic&btnG=Search17:26
shane_jcfp: ok then how am i fixin it cause all its doin is error after error and i have opened my router completely17:26
tzdgenii: http://oleg.wl500g.info/  I'm also wondering how to set the workgroup on my kubuntu? According to the guides I've set up the router but my guess is that somethign is wrong in kubuntu... i haven't seen a place to configure samba on it?17:26
geniitzd: nvm, google indicates openwrt17:26
tzdgenii: it's not openwrt although it's popular as well17:27
USMarineddwrt ftw17:27
geniitzd: Samba does not require to be installed for access from a linux client to a windows/samba share. Only to share from linux to windows or other boxes using this protocol. smbclient is all that is needed normally, which is in default install.17:28
jcfpshane_: frostwire tells me too that it detected a firewall but it works fine regardless of that. so there might be nothing to fix.17:28
geniitzd: When you do in Konq or Dolphin      smb:/router-ip-address                     do you see it?17:29
shane_no it gives me an error and when i close that it gives another timeafter time if i leave it it gives 150 intotal and i cant use the window atall17:29
tzdgenii: hmm ok, then it most likely should work... I've tried this in "Krusader" smb://192.168.1.1 (which is my routers ip) but all i receive is "the file or folder does not exist"17:30
tzdgenii: same issue in konq17:30
Sneedlyhelp again.  i got this message  "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet""17:30
Sneedlydo i want to delete it?17:31
geniitzd: Try with only a single /17:31
tzdgenii: got the same error message with a single /17:31
Greendingbathey all17:32
Sneedlyhello17:32
Greendingbati had a question about kubuntu17:32
Greendingbatim running it in a VM17:32
GreendingbatVMware server to be specific17:32
geniitzd: Put only:                  smb:/                                 then wait perhaps 30 seconds. Then hit f5  and wait another 30-45 seconds.17:32
Greendingbatand it has it's VM tools17:32
USMarineGreendingbat so?17:33
Greendingbatand it downloads them as a dvd17:33
Greendingbathow do i install them?17:33
tzdgenii: when doing that it takes about 1 second and then i see the workgroup17:33
geniitzd: Is t?he computer using a static ip or a dhcp one from router17:33
USMarineGreendingbat extract, open console, run the command to install inside the folder17:33
Greendingbatwell, that's the prob17:33
tzdgenii: dhcp17:33
Greendingbati can't extract17:33
USMarineinstall ark17:34
Greendingbatark?17:34
USMarine!ark17:34
geniitzd: OK. So can you browse from workgroup to the router?17:34
ubottuFactoid ark not found17:34
Greendingbati think i have ark already17:34
Greendingbatisn't that the crash handler?17:34
USMarineno17:34
USMarineright click the package17:34
Greendingbatk17:34
USMarinehit extract to17:34
Greendingbatextract to subdir?17:35
tzdgenii: i tried browsing the workgroup but when clicking it i received the previous message "file or folder smb:/workgroup does not exist"17:35
GreendingbatUSMarine: it gives me this message17:36
USMarinewhat message?17:36
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GreendingbatCOuld not create the folder file:///scd017:36
Greendingbatand then ark pops up17:37
USMarineyou can't extract it inside the dvd17:37
Greendingbati see17:37
USMarinecopy the package into the desktop17:37
tzdgenii: do i need to change permissions or anything on the samba share hdd? According to OLEG fw I'm suppose to share samba via web ui. I've done that and set it to share all partitions and set default access level to read/write17:37
Greendingbatk17:37
eskatoshi17:37
eskatoshow big is the default kubuntu 8.04 install ?17:38
USMarinehi french17:38
eskatoshi USMarine17:38
geniitzd: OK. On the router, you set I hope the same workgroup name. Not knowing it's setup secreens, etc difficult to guide. But basic idea would be:   same workgroup name, some globally shared folder on the drive or else guest settings or such. Also it may sometimes need lan ports 135 139 forwarded to it's own ip17:38
USMarinei'd say 2gb17:38
mollahello people17:38
Greendingbatno17:38
Greendingbatnot that big17:38
Greendingbatthe iso?17:38
Greendingbator the install?17:38
eskatosthe default install size on disk17:38
Greendingbatoh17:39
Greendingbatyeah, it's about 2gigs17:39
USMarine...17:39
TimSeskatos: For me it was arround 1.9 gig for Kubuntu17:39
eskatosaround 2GB is good for me thanks17:39
mollais it the 8.04 a DVD ISO or a CD ISO?17:39
USMarine(17:38:21) (USMarine) i'd say 2gb17:39
USMarinemolla it can be both17:39
Greendingbati'd prefer the cd iso17:40
mollaooh 8)17:40
Greendingbatit's easier to work with17:40
geniitzd: Also... is the drive formatted? Etc17:40
USMarinei prefer network install17:40
USMarinewho cares...17:40
tzdgenii: I've got 2 settings: Workgroup name (which is set to what i see on my kubuntu) and Host name. Will it matter what kind of host name I have?17:40
tzdgenii: yes the drive is formatted as ext317:40
Greendingbathow do i give myself sudo privilages?17:41
tzdgenii: will try open ports 135 and 13917:41
USMarinesudo command17:41
tzdGreendingbat: sudo cmd and then type your sudo password17:41
Greendingbatk17:41
mollasudo useradd username admin17:41
geniitzd: You should put a hostname without spaces or weird stuff not normally allowed in conventional windows networking. Something in uppercase less than 8 characters would be preferable.17:41
USMarinesudo ./vmware...17:41
mollathats the magik command17:41
tzdgenii: ok, then host name is ok. I had everything in uppercase including workgroup... is that case sensitive?17:42
geniitzd: linux can use it case sensitive but older windows clients make all uppercase.17:43
tzdgenii: ah ok.. should be alright then17:43
Greendingbatyeah17:43
Greendingbatit's kinda annoying getting used to case sensitive17:43
geniitzd: Also ensure broadcast address is set properly17:43
Greendingbati used to use DOS17:43
geniitzd: Otherwise the server cannot announce to clients it exists17:44
Greendingbatso im used to non-case sensitive17:44
tzdgenii: isn't broadcast for WLAN?17:44
tzdgenii: i'm on wire17:44
USMarineGreendingbat when gas runs out, you'll have to get used to it17:44
Greendingbatthat is true17:44
Greendingbatso, im in the dir of the install file17:44
geniitzd: if lan range is 192.168.1.1    normal broadcast would be 192.168.1.255 (unless subnetted)17:45
Greendingbatand it won't let me run it17:45
Greendingbati type sudo vmware-install.pl17:45
tomahasamootI'm having trouble with Skype, it crashes every time I try to open the "audio devices" tab in options17:45
Greendingbatand it says that it's not a bash command17:45
USMarinesudo ./ vmware-install.pl17:45
tomahasamootit's 2.0.0.6817:45
mmchello17:45
USMarinesudo ./vmware-install.pl17:45
Greendingbattomahsasmoot: that's because skype is a piece of junk17:45
mmcgenii si mogoče iz Slovenije ?17:46
geniimmc: nyet17:46
tomahasamootas is the GPL VOIP stuff I've tried... what do you use?17:46
Greendingbati use MSN17:46
USMarineskype17:46
mmcok no problem :)17:46
Greendingbatand oovoo17:46
tzdgenii: hmm ok .I've got IP Pool Ending Address: set to -> 192.168.1.254 .... should this be changed to .255?17:46
GreendingbatooVoo is GREAT17:46
Greendingbatyou can have more than one person vid calls17:47
Greendingbatup to 8 i think17:47
tomahasamootooVoo?17:47
Greendingbatwww.oovoo.com17:47
geniitzd: No, pool is different than broadcast. Thats fine17:47
USMarinei can't talk to more than 1 person on msn17:47
Greendingbatit's still in beta17:47
tzdgenii: ok, good17:47
Greendingbatso there are some bugs17:47
USMarinelol, beta17:47
Greendingbatbut not as bad as skype17:47
Greendingbatyeah17:47
Greendingbatthe skype plugin kept crashing my webbrowser17:47
USMarinetomahasamoot get the static linked version17:47
geniitzd: If netmask settings, use 255.255.255.0   on lan side of stuff. This auto-sets (normally) broadcast to proper17:48
mikesa81amarok completely disappeared from my system!? wtf???17:48
tomahasamootUSMarine: that's the version I have... it was all going so well, untill now17:48
USMarineis skype working for you?17:48
tomahasamootit was, until now17:49
Greendingbatit WORKS per se17:49
Greendingbatjust not WELL17:49
USMarineif it works17:49
tzdgenii: i see. Then it should definitely be alright. I'm finding the port forwarding bit a bit confusing on this router... my old netgear was a lot easier :P Isn't port forwarding for devices outside my network though?17:49
USMarinejust skip the devices tab17:49
tomahasamootGreendingbat: does ooVoo work on Win32?  The person on the other end has windows17:50
Greendingbatyeah17:50
Greendingbatit was made for windows17:50
Greendingbati use windows17:50
mollaMMC you there17:50
mollaWindows?17:50
tomahasamootGreendingbat: in that case, does it also work well on Linux?17:50
USMarinei use w64...too bad17:50
tzdgenii: I've tried a setting for manual share, will rs my router to see if that helps, brb17:50
Greendingbat64-bit windows?17:51
Greendingbatnice17:51
ScorpKing-Laptop!windows17:51
ubottuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents17:51
geniitzd: Most cheaper routers have only from external port to some internal ip, same port.     Better ones have external port to internal ip, different port. Best ones have that plus internal port to internal IP, different port17:51
Greendingbati just found out that ubuntu has a 64 bit ver17:51
Greendingbatmy friend is having trouble getting it to recognize all 4 gigs of his mem17:52
USMarine32bits os or faulty bios17:52
dudeHi.. I installed Hardy the other day.. But the default sound driver installed is giving sound output only on 2 of the 4 speakers I have connected to the system.. I have an Asus mother board with nforce 630a..How do I install the proper driver if available?17:53
tzdgenii: ah i see. i've got LAN to WAN and vice versa. Then I've got port triggering... that's basically the areas I have on this one17:53
USMarineinstall alsa gui17:53
USMarinedude install alsa gui, and test if some fader is down17:53
geniitzd: Good.17:53
tomahasamootwell Skype may be crap, but at least they have a Linux version, ooVoo doesn't, so that's not much help17:54
ScorpKing-LaptopGreendingbat: sometimes it's because the bios doesn't see 4GB17:54
geniitzd: Windows networking ports are 135 and 13917:54
shane_Odd-rationale: hello im havin a prob with frostwire its locking out due to firewall17:54
USMarinetomahasamoot exactly17:54
USMarinedude no queries17:55
tzdgenii: i see. Will that still be of importance even though im using 2 linux based systems?17:55
Odd-rationaleshane_: i nevered used frostwire. i always used torrents for p2p17:55
bayko7Is there a program similar to Fruity Loops Studio for Kubuntu?17:55
dudeUSMarine - I didnt understand..17:55
Odd-rationale!frostwire17:55
ubottufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire17:55
jabbai just installed the nvidia-xconfig package, and my resolution got shrunk to 1280x1024. i have a 1680x1050 modeline in the x config, how do i get it to take the correct resolution?17:55
USMarinedude use synaptic to find the alsa mixer gui package17:55
geniitzd: The protocol that samba wants to use will still require 135 and 139 :) As for any OS/web browser still requires port 80 for instance17:56
shane_Odd-rationale: ahh ic well can u explain how i can check and see what the settings for firewall are in kubuntu17:56
USMarinejabba sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg17:56
tzdgenii: aha ok. Which of the areas should i open the ports on? port triggering seems like the best idea imho but i don't know :) There i've got to choose between tcp and udp ports17:57
Odd-rationaleshane_: did you look at the wiki page posted my ubottu ^ ?17:57
shane_didnt see it17:58
stdinyour ubottu? ;p17:58
shane_Odd-rationale: didnt see it17:58
geniitzd: udp for both ports and set the ip to the router17:58
stdinit MINE!17:58
Odd-rationale/smy/by17:58
shane_Odd-rationale: will look now ty17:58
tzdgenii: just realised 1 thing... is there a built in firewall on kubuntu such as there is for windows?17:58
jabbaUSMarine: arg, so i have the proper resolution now, but no nvidia hardware acel. :(17:58
Odd-rationaleshane_: hope that helps17:58
tzdgenii: ok, will change that straight away17:58
sgrahamok, the other day i was able to extend my desktop off to a scond monitor17:59
geniitzd: If you installed somethihng like firestarter or so17:59
shane_Odd-rationale: me 217:59
ScorpKing-Laptopgenii: i managed to get printing working properly. had to install firmware but the errors are still tere. i can't remember who else i talked to but thanks for the help everyone. i'll sort my laptop out next week as i'm movieng this weekend. :)17:59
sgrahamfor some reason the tool in the system settings for my display is hella wack17:59
geniitzd: Work requires me, AFK17:59
ScorpKing-Laptopmoving*17:59
tzdgenii: ok, then I'm safe... don't have any software fw installed.  Ok, I'll try some things meanwhile you're working18:00
USMarinejabba i'm not sure, never had such problem18:00
tzdgenii: thanks a lot for your help so far!18:00
jabbaUSMarine: ok, thx18:00
USMarinetrying googling for something18:00
frybyeHi - I have got google earth 4.2 to work in 64x kubuntu 8.04 - but how do I set up the thing with $browser  ??18:00
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frybye- so that when clicking on links in g-earth the browser is found.. default browser is f-fox - but google-earth dosent find it..?18:01
sportmanhave any of you guys found a launch menu or anything for kubuntu18:03
sportmani was looking at the asus_eee pc18:03
sportmanand they had kde installed, but they had this tabbed system launcher18:03
sportmanfor accessing applications18:03
Odd-rationalesportman: you mean the new kicker nemu?18:04
sportmanseemed like something simple for linux new comers, anyone know what launcher it was?18:04
sportmani suppose?18:04
sportmanOdd-rationale basically i know my way around linux pretty well but i want to get my friends using it18:04
sportmanand the more dumbed down it is, the easier for them18:04
Odd-rationalesportman: that is new in kde418:04
* sportman takes a look18:04
Odd-rationaledefault in kde4, too. i beleive18:05
sportmanreally?18:05
sportmanmaybe im mistaking something18:05
sportmanOdd-rationale maybe we are not thinking of the same thing18:06
Odd-rationalesportman: sorry, it is called kickoff, not kicker....18:06
Odd-rationalesportman: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html18:06
sportmanah thanks Odd-rationale18:06
sportmanOdd-rationale thats not what i was thinking of18:07
sportmanbut that is dam nice18:07
Odd-rationalesportman: maybe katapult? http://katapult.kde.org/screenshots18:08
sportmannot really Odd-rationale, maybe its something asus did18:09
sportmanfor their eee_pc linux version18:09
sportmancause i havent been able to find examples anywhere else18:09
geniitzd: I am back for a few minutes now. Getting anywhere?18:09
lordneonhey, has anyone got an acer aspire 1672? and managed to get the wireless to work18:10
tzdgenii: well I've opened the ports in port triggering but since i restarted my router i had to wait for the hdds to be checked.. completely forgot i had a disk checker script... so it'll probably take some time :/18:10
Odd-rationaleoh, you mean the eeepc interface? that is something asus did to the xandros os18:10
sportmanyea, Odd-rationale it was pretty impressive18:10
sportmanthey made it so simple, yet still functional18:11
dudeUSMarine - I installed the alsa mixer gui and increased volume on all the allowed tabs.. still no sound on 2 of my speakers.. just a small hiss.. I read in the net something about nforce drivers.. doi i need too install that?18:11
geniitzd: OK. I'll go do some chores and return18:11
sportmani want to start building custom linux pc's for non experienced linux users18:11
sportmanso im trying to find the easiest interface18:11
tzdgenii: please do, thanks so far!18:11
Odd-rationalesportman: you can get something similar with ubuntu mobile http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile18:12
Odd-rationalebut that uses gtk, i think18:12
sportmanOdd-rationale that looks really nice18:14
sportmanim trying to find a downlaod18:14
Odd-rationalesportman: try the #ubuntu-mobile channel18:14
robertknightsportman:  There was a project to get KDE into educational environments18:16
robertknightskolelinux?18:16
robertknightThey created a new "especially for kids" front-end.  I think the story is in the dot.kde.org archives somewhere18:16
geniitzd: fsck finishing yet?18:21
TimSAnyone seen SSJ today?18:22
tzdgenii: yep18:22
tzdgenii: same issue I'm afraid. It finds the workgroup but then nothing18:22
simulai have mounted my /home and /usr to an sd card so that i can move my apps from one box to another18:22
xenolplz where can i find place where apt stores downloaded *.deb ?18:22
simulabut some applications aren't happy... firefox won't start18:23
Picixenol: /var/cache/apt/archives/18:23
simulawhat am i missing in my attempt to install apps on one box and then move them to another?18:23
simulai'm moving my apps and user data between my desktop and my laptop (eeepc)18:24
geniitzd: OK. Then to konsole.    smbclient -L -I <ip>      eg       smbclient -L -I192.168.1.118:24
geniitzd: Any services reported?18:24
xenolPici: thx18:25
tzdgenii:  johan@Penguin:~$ smbclient -L -I192.168.1.1 Connection to -I192.168.1.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)18:25
ScorpKing-Laptoptzd: 192.168.1.1 is a windows box?18:27
tzdScorpKing-Laptop: it's a asus WL-500gP router with some linux dist. on it18:28
ScorpKing-Laptoptzd: that error is usually from bad network settings.18:28
tzdScorpKing-Laptop: well probably not a full linux dist. but i think it's called "static binary" or something?18:28
tzdScorpKing-Laptop: hmm ok18:28
geniitzd: Ah, aplogies, syntax incorrect on my part. Instead:            smbclient -I192.168.1.1 -P18:29
tzdgenii: no problem, will try that new one :)18:29
ScorpKing-Laptoptzd: it is the workgroup or computername or someting stupid like that that gives that error. can't remember now18:30
tzdgenii: Failed to open /var/lib/samba/secrets.tdb ERROR: Unable to open secrets database18:30
geniiScorpKing-Laptop: The -L option I supplied needed an argument (netbios name)18:30
tzdScorpKing-Laptop: ok, I've got "Ravenwood" as workgroup18:30
tzdgenii: , ScorpKing-Laptop I'll be back in 15 min, food... sorry!18:31
ScorpKing-Laptopgenii: righto.. will remember that18:31
geniitzd: -N  should suppress password query.          smbclient -I192.168.1.1 -P -N18:32
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geniigah18:34
aSuZwww.free-stream.fr18:34
geniiAnyone else getting weird msgs from nickserv?18:34
ScorpKing-Laptopgenii: yes me18:34
stdingenii: it's back up, re-identify18:34
geniistdin: I did but it thinks my nick is genii-around18:35
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stdingenii-around: apparently that's your master nick now :p18:35
geniistdin: Damn18:36
geniistdin: Won't let me auth18:36
stdindid you use the pass for genni-around?18:36
NekosolTeraDyneIt thinks my name is "TeraDyne"18:36
NekosolTeraDynebut, it does show me as logged in18:37
geniiNekosolTeraDyne: Same idea here18:37
chxwhere is the password stored for freenode? i can't identify. I forgot my password.18:37
geniistdin: It must be one I created a while ago18:38
NekosolTeraDyneMeh, I wouldn't worry about it until they get done with whatever it is they're doing.18:38
chxi mean, when i connect, konversation supplies the password as the server password.18:38
chxoh18:38
chxkonversationrc.18:38
chxthanks.18:38
stdingenii: I guess you'll have to ask the staff for help then18:39
geniistdin: Bah18:39
Choreboystdin: you're an operator of this channel? What does that mean? Is that like a moderator?18:41
stdinmoderator/operator are interchangeable terms really18:41
Choreboygot it.18:41
ChoreboyI want to be an operator someday. "I banish you to the depths of ##Heck"18:42
asraniel_quick, my gf tells me that kaffeine tells her that she does not has the rights to read a video DVD, how to solve?18:42
Choreboyuse VLC?18:43
stdinasraniel_: make sure they are in the cdrom group18:43
Choreboyj/k!18:43
asraniel_stdin: she could read dvds until yesterday18:43
sgrahamgrrrr video issues blow18:44
biagidpHey all.  I just recently started using the kde-desktop on top of my ubuntu installation because gnome was giving me some performance issues.  KDE has cleared up the issues and I'm enjoying it, but I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good weather-checking applet/widget?18:47
Schorfiliquidweather for superkaramba18:48
Schorfior kweather for kicker18:48
biagidpare those part of KDE or are they like a separate widget dock I would need to get?18:48
Schorfisuperkaramba is part of kde, however liquidweather is a non-kde plugin for it18:49
compilerwriter!superkaramba18:49
ubottusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org18:49
Schorfiexactly18:50
simulais there a way for many machines to mount a directory that allows them to share installed applications?18:50
stdinsimula: look into nfs18:50
stdin!nfs18:50
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.18:50
compilerwriterschorfi is superkaramba compatible with compiz?18:51
Schorfiyeah18:51
simulastdin... i'm really wanting to mount a directory to an sd card and move it between a laptop and a desktop18:51
simulai have mounted /usr and /home, but some apps don't like the move18:51
stdinsimula: that's not mounting, that's just copying files18:51
simulastdin... i have partitioned the sd card into two partitions, each one mounts to the machine as /usr and /home at boot up18:52
jabbaif i have compiz installed, and xgl installed, how do i get compiz to use it? it says it's not present.18:52
simulausing fstab18:52
stdinsimula: ok, so what's not working18:52
stdin?18:52
simulai install firefox on my desktop, and it shows up in kde4 like magic on my laptop's launcher, but when i click on the icon it won't launch :/18:53
simulaphotoshop via wine works great18:53
stdintry launching it from a console and see if any errors come up18:54
doktor_a18:54
asraniel_warg, my gf changes back to windows because kubuntu has too many bugs... what a shame....18:56
trappistasraniel_: ironic, too18:57
asraniel_trappist: yes.. and she realy has many bugs, realy big ones, i never have such problems, it's realy wierd18:58
trappistiono, maybe she has some unsupported hardware18:58
asraniel_her biggest problem is her intel graphics card18:58
asraniel_today her screen went blank 2 times, she had to hard reboot the computer18:59
asraniel_then kaffeine didn't want to start anymore, until she killed it by hand, then it opend18:59
asraniel_then she could not open her video dvd18:59
aldoohi, are the kde 4.1beta1 packages due for today ?18:59
asraniel_hardy is unusable for her, sometimes all videos are blue (not always)18:59
Daisuke-Laptopasraniel_: switch video output to x1119:00
Daisuke-Laptopshould be in kaffeine's preferences19:00
Myrth[home]hi, where do i change to use subpixel font antialiasing?19:01
asraniel_Daisuke-Laptop: are you sure that works???? because it would be gread, i could upgrade her from gutsy to the LTS release19:01
Myrth[home]ok found :)19:03
Choreboyasraniel_: your gf seems to be in the twilight zone. Windows is more stable?19:04
asraniel_Choreboy: yes, much more19:04
_sourcemakerhow stable is kde 4.1b?19:04
nowherehi folks19:05
EmJayservus @ all19:06
Choreboyasraniel_: Well I dual-boot and I must say my windows is fairly stable, but it's also tweaked quite a bit19:06
ChoreboyBUT, I do enjoy using Kubuntu more often. I only boot to XP when I need to do something I haven't learned/don't have time to learn (at the moment) in Kubuntu19:06
ChoreboyI do have some noticable instability but it due to firefox issues19:07
jhutchins_wkOne of the things we discovered when Linux started getting popular was that a lot of the crashes and problems we blamed on Windows were actually hardware problems.19:08
biagidpEverytime I try to download the liquid weather plugin it opens the binary in kate.  Does anyone know how I can just save it?19:08
stdinright-click->Save as ?19:09
biagidpunfortunately that only saves a php file, and not the actual file I want to download19:09
jhutchins_wkNowadays there are windows drivers that compensate for some bad hardware better than some linux drivers, as well as the other way around.19:09
jhutchins_wkbiagidp: Open the php file and see if it has the URL of the file you want.  Sounds like possibly a bogus webpage.19:10
stdinbiagidp: you can try opening a console and use "wget <URL>"19:10
Choreboyjhutchins_wk: do you have example of bad hardware? Maybe a horror story?19:10
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jhutchins_wkNothing really fun, just stuff that breaks.  IDE controller chipsets were one.19:13
jhutchins_wkMemory controllers.19:13
Choreboyand you say drivers compensate for that?19:14
jhutchins_wkSometimes linux will catch bad RAM, because it uses all of the ram.19:14
jhutchins_wkChoreboy: In a "if 2 + 2 =5 then 4" kind of way, sometimes.19:14
biagidpGot it.  The php file it loaded was suspiciously large, so I renamed it to a .skz and it loaded right up19:14
Choreboyjhutchins_wk: ahhh. Damage control19:15
Choreboywell I suppose that's smart and probably a good thing to pursue when creating drivers?19:15
jhutchins_wkBasic, common hardware is a lot better since the mid-to-late 90's because of Linux though.19:16
Choreboynot that you wouldn't want good hardware but... sometimes that's not an option19:16
tzdgenii: still there? Tried the -N parameter but received the same error msg: Failed to open /var/lib/samba/secrets.tdb19:18
tzdgenii: sorry that i took so long19:18
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tzdgenii: tried a few things on my own and now things changed for some reason. In console i typed:"smbclient -L 192.168.1.1" I was then asked for a password. just pressed enter and i received info such as: Sharename       Type      Comment and everything was listed underneath19:33
geniiBack19:34
pimHey19:35
geniitzd: Good. See if you can now get there in file browser19:35
dameousewhat packages do i need to install to be able to program with Qt 4.4 and c++?19:35
pimis there a command for getting information about packages? I mean: apt-cache *info* <package> or something like it19:35
tzdgenii: when trying in a filebrowser i get the same error message as before: the file or the folder smb://ravenwood/ does not exist19:36
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shane2peruquick question, on kontact, I setup an imap account, it checks the server, and gets the messages fine19:38
Vermuxhow do I c files in the windows partition using kubuntu on the same computer?19:38
shane2peruhowever when I click on a  message, it doesn't display the message?  Anyone know why?19:38
shane2peruVermux: open Konsole and type:  mount19:38
shane2peruVermux: that will tell you if the partition is mounted, then you should be able to navigate there with Dolphin and see the files.19:39
shane2peruVermux you should see something like /mnt/windows or /mnt/ntfs or something, if it was setup to mount at the time of installation19:40
Vermuxshane2peru: I dont c it there19:40
Vermuxshane2peru: waht do I do?19:40
shane2peruVermux: ok, we are going to have to setup a mount point19:41
shane2peruVermux: using paste bin paste the results of:   sudo fdisk -l                  .... Or if you can look at it and decipher what the results is you should be able to see your windows partition19:42
Vermuxshane2peru: /dev/sda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS19:44
shane2peruVermux: ahh, there ya go :)  I guess I should have known it would be the first19:44
xstHow can I make (k)ubuntu reconfigure my screen- and mousepad settings again from scratch as if I reinstalled from scratch?19:44
shane2peruVermux: ok, now we are going to make a folder first with this:  sudo mkdir /mnt/windows19:44
Vermuxshane2peru: I copy and paste the row with the ntfs19:45
Vermuxshane2peru: done19:45
shane2peruVermux: now we are going to mount it and cross our fingers that Hardy already has the fuse thing installed with this:  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows19:45
shane2peruVermux: if you get an error, please paste it, should be a one liner19:46
Vermuxit says that udo is not installed. Should Instasll it?19:47
shane2peruVermux: ooops, I think you missed the 's'  before sudo19:47
Vermuxhehe19:47
Vermuxyes19:47
Vermuxcorrected19:47
shane2peruVermux: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows19:47
Vermuxok19:47
shane2peruno errors?19:47
Vermuxno19:48
Vermuxso far so good19:48
shane2perugotta love hardy! :)19:48
Vermuxthat'sit?19:48
Vermuxnow, I will be able to c the windows partition?19:48
shane2peruok, now to find that, just open Dolphin and navigate to Root folder, then click on mnt, then click on windows19:48
shane2peruVermux: if you want to always have that mounted we would have to add that to your fstab,19:49
Vermuxshane2peru: yay19:49
Vermuxshane2peru: yes, I want it to be mounted all the time19:49
shane2peruI think that writing to ntfs may be still a trial and error thing,19:49
shane2peruVermux: I'm not sure about that since I don't use ntfs at all19:50
Vermuxshane2peru: u mean, writing or modifying documents in that partition?19:50
Vermuxbut no problem with opening documents, right?19:50
shane2peruVermux: right, I mean the last time I used the ntfs fuser mount was back in Dapper, or Breezy days. :)19:50
shane2peruVermux: correct, you should be able to open them without a problem, and like I said that is old news, things have probably gotten better.19:51
Vermuxok. got to go now, but I will need help how to change the fstab19:52
shane2peruVermux: one second and I will find how to permanently add that to your fstab, do you want that on your Desktop for easy access?19:52
shane2peruVermux: ok, later someone can help you, it isn' t that difficult. :)19:53
Vermuxok, thanks19:53
Vermuxbe back later19:53
shane2peruVermux: no prob19:53
tzdgenii: i tried connecting and browse via terminal and that works well. It's just all the gui connections that won't work for some reason19:57
geniitzd: Sorry again for lag. Work is busier than normal today20:00
Qsterhi i originally installed ubuntu 8.04 and did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop20:00
tzdgenii: it's ok :)20:00
Qsterhow do i get my compiz and settings working again?20:00
geniitzd: Well, so we know then the basic setups are good.20:00
tzdgenii: yep. I've asked at the samba channel as well and was told to: add a share name to that smb:// and then: try the netbios host name instead of the IP20:02
rickestQster: start by seeing if it even works:  compiz --replace --sm-disable cpp20:02
Qstersays could load plugin cppp20:03
Qstersays could load plugin cpp20:03
Qsterwhole bunch of errors20:03
geniitzd: You might also try to add the option to use for hostname lookups bcast20:03
Rudd-Ohi guise, I need help20:03
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Rudd-Omy control center keyboard shortcuts module says that the Contextual menu (right-click menu) keyboard shortcut is Shift+F10.  (normally it is assigned to the Menu key but we IBM Model M users don't have such a key).   now, the context menu doesn't work in any application.  Why could that be?20:04
Rudd-Ohalp plz? hehehee20:04
rickester, type on my part sorry.  'ccp'20:04
Rudd-OI really want to break free from mouse dependency20:04
geniitzd: In the smbclient syntax it would be    -R bcast20:04
tzdgenii: ok will give that a try immediately20:06
Rudd-Ocan someone confirm if you can even read me?20:06
tempestcan someone please help me figure out a problem i'm  having  when I log out of kubuntu the screen just goes black20:06
shane2perudoes anyone know what package I need to sync palm with Kontact?20:07
geniitzd: Back in 2-3 minutes20:07
Rudd-Ohi guise20:07
Rudd-Odo you read me?20:07
shane2perutempest: do you have ATI driver?20:07
tempestno its nvidia20:07
Odd-rationaleRudd-O: no20:08
Rudd-OOdd-rationale: thanks for confirming20:08
Rudd-Ohahaa20:08
Rudd-Ook20:08
shane2perutempest: hmm, that is probably the culprit, does the cpu actually shut off?20:08
Rudd-Onow to the question20:08
tempestshane2peru  it just goes black20:08
shane2perutempest: it doesn't shut off?20:08
Rudd-Omy control center keyboard shortcuts module says that the Contextual menu (right-click menu) keyboard shortcut is Shift+F10.  (normally it is assigned to the Menu key but we IBM Model M users don't have such a key).  now, the context menu doesn't work in any application.  Why could that be?20:08
Qsterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15614/ is the errors i get with compiz20:08
shane2perutempest: I'm not sure about that, I know nothing of nvidia20:08
tempestshane2peru  everything except logout works20:09
shane2perutempest: ahhh, then certainly nvidia is the problem, do you have the restricted drivers installed?20:09
tempestshane2peru  i used envyng  and had to use the legacy driver20:10
Qsterwell by typing the compiz thing it seemed to have worked but i cant seem to get more than 2 desktops20:10
tzdgenii: ok. Tried the -R bcast but that doesn't seem to do anything? tried: smbclient -R bcast 192.168.1.1 , tried without bcast etc20:10
shane2perutempest: I'm not real familiar with nvidia, my wife's computer has ATI and it had issues with that too, I installed envy and the latest ATI drivers and that cleared it up for me.20:10
rickestQster: run 'ccsm' and/or kcontrol, should be able to set desktops/virtual desktops in those20:11
shane2perudoes anyone know what package I need to sync palm with Kontact?20:11
tempestshane2peru   its more annoying than anything20:11
snizzy1@rickest20:11
snizzy1whats your problem,20:11
snizzy1does the graphic hang up? after some seconds?20:11
shane2perutempest: I know, I wish I had an answer for ya.20:12
Qsteris there like a page i can goto to go from ubuntu to kubuntu?20:12
frueberQster there is20:13
shane2peruQster: you want to install and use Kubuntu?20:13
tempestshane2peru    well I've searched the forums and all over google and havent found anything to fix it for nvidia   that is why I was starting to wonder if it was just me20:13
Qsterive already sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop20:13
rickestQster: log out of KDE, select which WM you want when the display manager appears (log-in screen)20:13
rickestshane2peru: he installed ubuntu, then20:13
shane2perutempest: you can always post on the forums, I would post on ubuntuforums.org20:13
rickest'kubuntu-desktop' so he has both20:14
tempestshane2peru  well i couldnt figure out exactly were to post it   im so new to this stuff20:14
rickestQster: also now that you know compiz works put the command we did earlier in a shell script in ~/.kde/Autorun20:14
shane2perutempest: hmm, probably in the general forums, the reason I suggest the ubuntuforums rather than the Kubuntu is they get a little more visited. :)  This seems to be more of an ubuntu/nvidia issue20:15
rickestQster: so it'll start automatically from now on20:15
Qsterwhats a shell script?20:15
tempestshane2peru thank you20:15
shane2perutempest: no prob20:15
geniiback20:16
snizzy1hi people, can someone help me?20:17
PhilTrunksnizzy1: just ask20:17
Qsterhow do i install kdm?20:18
geniitzd: if you have the ip address there it thinks thts a resolution protocol, like lmhosts bcast or so on. You need before the ip -I    or do differently:    smbclient //name-or-ip -R bcast20:18
snizzy1how can i record with my webcam,20:18
Qsteri also cant seem to get more than 2 desktops, when i click properties and change it to 4 it just stays at 220:19
snizzy1or how is it possible to activate the stream and get something from the cam,20:19
snizzy1through the usbport20:19
snizzy1its connected via my usb port20:19
geniiQster: sudo apt-get install kdm                if you currently have gdm it should prompt for which to use as default. If it doesn't, do:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm20:20
snizzy1i think the stream is sent automatically, if a special command is sent?20:20
dellsalut20:22
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Qsterany idea why wont let me have more than 2 desktops?20:24
rickestQster: mess with kcontrol and ccsm20:24
snizzy1is it possible to get a picture via kopete?20:25
snizzy1i dont mean kopete,20:28
francesco_!it20:28
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:28
snizzy1sry20:28
geniiQster: Is this on kde4 with compiz on?20:28
snizzy1i mean is it possible to record my own stream to a hdd20:28
snizzy1is there a tool20:28
snizzy1for kubuntu20:28
snizzy1where i can use my webcam as a videocamera?20:28
geniisnizzy1: zoneminder may work for you20:28
genii!info zoneminder20:29
ubottuzoneminder (source: zoneminder): Linux video camera security and surveillance solution. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.22.3-10 (hardy), package size 1303 kB, installed size 4584 kB20:29
snizzy1how can i use it?20:29
snizzy1only start?20:29
snizzy1is it in20:29
snizzy1is it in usr bin20:29
snizzy1or sbin20:29
snizzy1how ok i look at it ;)20:30
snizzy1thanks for helping genii ;)20:30
snizzy1thx20:30
geniisnizzy1: You need of course to use a package manager of your choise to install it. Adept (Add/Remove programs)   or by apt-get:      sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install zoneminder   a small tutorial of it is here http://www.howtoforge.com/video_surveillance_zoneminder_ubuntu it is for other type of device but can be applicable20:31
Qstergenii: this is kde4 yes20:31
geniisnizzy1: Most video devices are at /dev/video0 up to /dev/videoXX   where XX is last device minus a digit (since first is labelled zero)20:32
tzdgenii: when trying with -R bcast after i get this: 192.168.1.1: Not enough '\' characters in service followed by the whole list for smbclient syntax20:33
geniiQster: I found the pager applet neeed to be removed then readded while in compiz to properly show the correct number of desktops. Your mileage may vary however20:33
debian_Can grub boot a usb stick?20:33
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Qsterwell i cant even get the correct number of desktops to show in the bottom bar20:33
snizzy2how does zoneminder work?20:35
geniitzd: It has been some time since I required to use smbclient and so am referring myself back to it's manpage. I may have syntax incorrect once more.    smbclient //name-or-ip/servicename  -R bcast                      perhaps or even another /after servicename20:35
Qsterhmm im wondering if i should just reinstall all of this with a kubuntu cd20:35
Qsterinstead of upgrading to it..20:35
tzdgenii: by servicename you mean one of my shares?20:36
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geniitzd: Yes, servicename is something like   Printers  Homes    or such20:42
geniigah more nickserv hiccups20:42
tzdgenii: i tried smbclient -L 192.168.1.1/disc0_2 -R bcast and then i got the usual pw request and then it listed my shared resources etc. I've got winbindd running, could that be one of the problems perhaps?20:47
geniitzd: Use then wins instead of bcast20:48
geniitzd: Although it seems for you no matter the CLI command, the GUI is inoperative20:48
tzdgenii: yep same thing there... only works in terminal20:49
tzdgenii: i've got win xp on vmware on this machine... perhaps i should try and see if it can connect?20:49
bayko7how do I switch my package download server to one thats not down??20:49
geniitzd: Heh, why not20:49
geniibayko7: You using ca.archive.ubuntu.com ?20:50
bayko7correct20:50
geniibayko7: Try instead    debian.yorku.ca20:50
bayko7how do I swap that/?20:50
geniibayko7: alt-f2  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list          change all instances of ca.archive.ubuntu.com     to debian.yorku.ca20:51
geniibayko7: After of course, save. Then to issue:  sudo apt-get update                to renew the list of packages20:53
bayko7renewing now20:54
shane2peruanyone know about sync-ing Palm with kontact, getting the kpilot to connect?20:55
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bayko7now it's frozen on 99% updating20:56
geniibayko7: Likely the swamped security server. There are no mirrors of it20:56
bayko7o ok, thanks20:57
Qstershould i get the kde4 or kde3 ubuntu?21:00
Odd-rationaleQster: up to you, i'm staying with kde3 at least intil kde4.1 is stable21:00
shane2perukde3 Qster21:00
shane2peruQster: kde3 is more stable and usable, kde4 is umm, well lacking some still21:01
Qsterk21:01
geniiQster: kde3 for everyday use.21:01
lassiethebraveso, after my latest update/upgrade on my kubuntu 8.04 laptop my touchpad has completely freaked out (when moving it behaves simply crazy doing button 3 clicks everywhere and moving hysterically...) I get The Following to errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/15624/ (the numbers wary but those to appear whenever I move my pointer...)21:02
geniilassiethebrave: The "lost sync" thing normally happens when it loses the irq for a device. Did you have special kernel options in your grub line before?   like pci=routeirq or so on21:04
lassiethebravegenii: Nope, nothing special in menu.lst.21:04
geniilassiethebrave: Had you compiled a driver for it under the previous kernel?21:05
lassiethebravegenii: No I'm only using kubuntu shipped drivers ...21:06
geniiOK.21:06
lassiethebravegenii: Would it help to roll back the upgrade, do you think? (if that is possible with kubuntu systems(?))21:08
wraithmagineed assistance setting my laptop to be bootp server for another laptop with a bad cd/dvd drive so he can install from my cd/dvd21:09
geniilassiethebrave: Not possible, unfortunately.21:09
lassiethebravegenii: Dang...21:09
Freddy2h21:09
Freddy2hi21:09
wraithmagiany ideas?  installed the pump package but I'm totally lost on configuration....21:11
tzdgenii: i got it, got some help from the samba channel people and apparently all my file browsers were bad... since i could connect via win xp i got even more assured that they were right. Tried one of the softwares they've listed (smb4k) and it connected very smoothly. Finally it works like it should. Shame my regular filebrowser doesn't work though since it works with everything else. Anyway, i owe you a massive thank you for all your help and effort21:12
tzdtoday! Hopefully I'll be able to help you some time but then you better forget something easy otherwise I won't know how to help you ;)21:12
Freddy2how can be adept_notifier autolaunched at startup? i suppose you can't really access to package config as normal user, isn't it?21:12
geniilassiethebrave: There seems quite extensive discussion on the error at http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-input@vger.kernel.org/msg00105.html21:12
jhoc2x2!atlantis21:12
ubottuFactoid atlantis not found21:12
geniitzd: Glad you got it going finally.21:12
jhoc2x2anyone here know how to install cube atlantis2 on 64bit?21:13
genii!info cube221:13
ubottuPackage cube2 does not exist in hardy21:13
geniiHmm21:13
jhoc2x2does not exist.. lol21:14
tzdgenii: yeah, i was planning to stay up all night to get it sorted :) Now i can try to set up a ftp server instead haha... gosh there's always something to do with linux.... I'm suppose to study java for my exam on tuesday but that can wait one more day ;) Thanks once again :)21:14
geniitzd: Good luck with exams, and you're welcome21:14
tzdgenii: cheers21:14
nado_anybody got problems with java and firefox 3?21:16
wraithmagiis there a linux app to "hot-resize" a partition?21:17
nazgjunkI'm trying to hurt my system into not trying to mount my camera as a camera but as an ordinary usb storage device - annoyingly the udev rules file I'm supposed to be editing doesn't exist. Details follow:21:17
nazgjunkit's a panasonic FX-12 camera, and the internet tells me I should edit the rules file for libgphoto2 to not include the ID for the thing21:18
nazgjunksince there is no such file I'm not making a lot of progress21:18
nazgjunkany suggestions?21:18
nado_wraithmagi: try gparted21:18
andrew15234whats the channel for general kubuntu discussion?21:20
lassiethebravegenii: thx, I'm of to compile the synaptics driver then.21:20
nado_andrew15234: you're in it :D21:21
andrew15234ok i thought this was the support channel21:21
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TobbyI'm sure ppl are bored of hearing this but:  I to have changed my main laptop OS to Linux\kubuntu! And I'm very happy:P21:26
andrew15234it beats xp by a long shot in my opinion21:26
lassiethebraveCould anybody enlighten me as to how I would make kde not restore my previous session at login?21:27
andrew15234close everything before shutting down?21:27
Tobbylassiethebrave, in the systemsetings21:27
Tobbyat advanced there is the option to change that..21:27
Tobbyat least I read it somewhere there when I installed Kubuntu earliyer today21:28
lassiethebraveTobby: Oh it's tabbed... thanks.21:28
Tobbyanyone know the imwheel lines that is needed to use extra mouse button to go backwards in dolphin?21:30
Vermuxhow do I change the fstab file so I wont have to type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows every time Im restarting?21:31
Vermuxshane2peru:21:32
shane2peruVermux: I'm here21:32
Vermuxshane2peru: how do I change the fstab file so I wont have to type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows every time Im restarting?21:33
shane2peruVermux: right, did you want that on the desktop?  For easier access21:33
Vermuxshane2peru: good idea21:33
shane2peruVermux: we are going to want to mount it in a different place than we did earlier21:34
nicola_hi all...please...can you tell me how i can enter another channel?21:34
tzdnicola_: type this; /j channelname21:35
nicola_thx so much!21:35
tzdnp :)21:35
Vermuxshane2peru: ok21:36
shane2peruVermux: one second21:36
shane2peruVermux: ok, ready21:42
shane2peruVermux: ok, first this:  sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak21:42
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shane2peruVermux: this will backup your fstab incase for whatever reason we mess it up. :)21:43
shane2peruVermux: next we are going to type:  gksu kate /etc/fstab21:44
andrew15234how di set up the compiz cube to rotate when i press super and move the mouse?21:44
Vermuxshane2peru: it says that the program gksu is not installed, should I install it?21:45
shane2peruVermux: paste this line in the very bottom of your fstab:  /dev/sda1    /media/windows    ntfs      ro,user,auto,noexec,umask= 0 0 021:45
shane2peruVermux: ok, try: sudo kate /etc/fstab21:45
shane2peruVermux: then paste that line above ^^^^21:46
Vermuxshane2peru: can I use Vim to paste it?21:46
shane2peruVermux: if you are vim fellow have at it. :)21:46
shane2peruVermux: I don't  vin21:46
shane2peruVermux: I don't  vim21:46
shane2peruVermux: did you get it?21:47
Vermuxyes, I did21:48
Vermuxshane2peru: how do I check that it works?21:48
shane2peruVermux: ok, now run this:  sudo umount /mnt/windows21:48
lassiethebraveThank you #kubuntu I have no *all* functionality of my laptop running kubuntu(!) this distro does rock!21:48
lassiethebrave*I have now *all**21:49
Vermuxshane2peru: done21:49
shane2peruVermux: and now: sudo mkdir /media/windows21:49
shane2peruVermux: now run sudo mount -a21:49
shane2peruVermux: you should be able to see a disk on your desktop that now says windows21:49
Vermuxfuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy21:49
shane2peruVermux: run:   mount21:49
shane2peruVermux: does it show that that windows is mounted?  sda1?21:50
Vermuxshane2peru: I had the mount open21:50
Vermuxnow I closed it21:50
Vermuxshane2peru: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)21:51
shane2peruVermux:  now you need to run again, sudo umount /mnt/windows21:51
Vermuxit is not mounted21:51
shane2peruVermux: ok now run:  sudo mount -a21:52
shane2peruVermux: that should mount anything and everything in fstab21:52
Vermuxfuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy21:52
Vermuxshane2peru: I dont know why it says it is busy21:52
shane2peruVermux: try this:  sudo lsof /dev/sda121:53
Vermuxmaybe if I restart?21:53
Vermuxok21:53
Vermuxand then, mount -a?21:54
shane2peruVermux: that command wasn' t right, I forget that command21:54
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VermuxI did sudo lsof /dev/sda121:54
shane2peruVermux: you can try a reboot, that would certainly tell us if it works21:54
shane2peruVermux: did it show anything?21:54
shane2peruVermux: oooh, that was the right command. lol21:55
Vermuxshane2peru: no, it gave nothing in output21:55
Vermuxwhich command, mount -a?21:55
Vermuxor the last one?21:55
shane2peruok, that should mean that it isn't mounted21:55
shane2peruno the lsof21:55
Vermuxok, so what is wrong here?21:56
shane2peruVermux: it is probably a setting in the fstab, I'm looking for it now, one second21:56
shane2peruVermux: it has been years since I worked with ntfs. :)21:56
Vermuxok, by the way:/media is the desktop folder?21:56
Vermuxshane2peru: how come?21:57
shane2peruVermux: no, anything mounted in media gets shown on the desktop, all the usb stuff mounts in media21:57
shane2peruI had you mount it under mnt before, that is my pref, it doesn' t show on desktop. :)21:57
Vermuxshane2peru: why it shows in the desktop then?21:58
tsbIs user-switching in kubuntu 3.5.9 broken or is it just om my computer? After 1-3 minutes after loggign in to a new account, the old one will crash21:58
Vermuxshane2peru: there is no way to create shortcut to the mount point /mnt?21:58
tsber, kubuntu 8.04 sorry.21:59
shane2perubecause it was mounted on media. :)21:59
VermuxIc21:59
Vermuxshane2peru: so let me know if there is a solution or I need to restart21:59
Vermuxshane2peru: thanks for all the help22:00
shane2peruVermux: no problem, I'm sure the settings in the fstab are incorrect, I'm looking for the right settings for Ubuntu22:00
Freddy2shane2peru: what filesystem type you need to mount?22:01
shane2peruFreddy2: ntfs22:02
Vermuxshane2peru: I still c the folder Windows under mnt22:02
Vermuxshane2peru: maybe this is the reason22:02
shane2peruVermux: ok, I think this should be better22:02
Freddy2/dev/whatever /destination ntfs uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,user,umask=000 0 022:02
shane2peruVermux: that should just be a folder, with nothing in it.:)22:02
Vermuxshane2peru: but windows content are displayed under the /media folder22:02
Freddy2this one is working fine for me22:02
Vermuxshane2peru: right22:02
shane2peruFreddy2: ahh, ok, thanks!22:03
shane2peruFreddy2: I don' t use ntfs. :)22:03
Freddy2my windows installation does..22:03
Vermuxshane2peru: right, both folders are empty22:03
Freddy2you can set "ro" instead "rw" if you want read only access22:04
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shane2peruVermux: we need to re-edit your fstab and erase what we put before, change it to this:  /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,user,umask=000 0 022:04
Freddy2*instead of22:04
shane2peruFreddy2: is ntfs stable with writing now?22:04
Freddy2it seems so22:04
shane2peruFreddy2: I haven't used ntfs in about 2 years22:04
Freddy2if you use a fat32 shared partition between win and linux you can keep your ntfs partition in read-only mode22:05
shane2peruVermux: then run this:  mount     .... see if windows is mounted anywhere in there, or ntfs.22:05
Freddy2you choose22:05
shane2peruFreddy2: I'm 100% linux. :)  I did set that up when I dual booted though, ntfs was unstable then22:06
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shane2peruFreddy2: or ntfs support with linux that is.22:06
Vermuxshane2peru: yes, on /media/sd122:06
Vermuxsda122:06
Freddy2the problem was ntfs support on linux, for sure22:06
shane2peruVermux: ok run:  sudo umount /media/sda122:06
shane2peruVermux: then run:  sudo mount -a22:07
Vermuxok22:07
Vermuxdone22:07
shane2peruVermux: was there any other sda1 entries in your fstab?22:07
shane2peruVermux: you should see a drive on your desktop now called windows22:07
Vermuxshane2peru: no. I dont c it22:08
shane2peruVermux: when you ran sudo mount -a no errors?22:08
Vermuxno, nothing22:08
shane2peruVermux: run:  mount       and check for where ntfs is mounted22:08
shane2peruFreddy2: thanks for the ntfs fstab settings. :)22:09
Freddy2you're welcome22:09
Vermuxyes, it is mounted on /media /windows22:09
Freddy2Vermux: if your fstab is fine simply reboot22:09
Vermuxand on /media/sda122:09
VermuxI c 2 entries22:09
shane2peruVermux: well, that is odd that it doesn't  show up on desktop22:09
shane2peruVermux: ahh, ok, I think it was already in your fstab22:10
Freddy2check that you have only 1 entry for this partition, leave the right one, save and reboot22:10
Vermux?22:10
Freddy2this should work22:10
shane2peruVermux: paste the output for this:  cat /etc/fstab   and paste it in:  www.pastebin.com22:10
shane2peruFreddy2: I think it is in the fstab twice, I think it was in there before, and we (I) didn't know it.22:11
Freddy2shane2peru: sure22:11
shane2peruVermux: then paste the link here so I can see it.22:11
Vermuxhttp://pastebin.com/md58853c22:11
Freddy2fucking pastebin.. i hate this web XD22:12
Vermux?22:12
shane2peruVermux: ok, edit your fstab again, and put a # before the line:  UUID=96A49B5BA49B3CA5 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       122:12
Vermuxwhat is xd?22:12
shane2peruFreddy2: please keep the room family friendly22:12
shane2peruVermux: after you do that you should be able to reboot, and have it show up on the desktop without a problem22:13
Freddy2np22:13
Vermuxdone22:13
Vermuxshane2peru: ok, will be back shortly22:14
shane2peruVermux: it was already in the fstab and we didn't realize that!  It was already mounted lol, anyway, this should give you write permissions22:14
Vermuxshane2peru: but u said it is not safe to write?22:14
Vermuxis it ok to change documents in the windows partition?22:14
Freddy2Vermux: what kubuntu version are you using?22:14
shane2peruVermux: I also said I haven't used ntfs in 2 years. :)22:15
Vermuxlike .txt or doc?22:15
Vermuxthe last one, I upgraded today22:15
Vermux8.0422:15
shane2peruVermux: hmm, that would be a question for Freddy2, he is using ntfs22:15
tozankyakuHi22:15
Vermuxwhat's the comand to check the version?22:15
Freddy2it should work fine with ntfs, but you may use a shared fat32 (for example) partition22:16
Freddy2that depends on how much you believe in ntfs driver XD22:16
Vermuxwaht is XD?22:16
shane2peruVermux: if you don' t want to write, you can change the fstab find the option rw in the line we put in there and change it to ro22:16
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Freddy2i have write support enabled, but certainly i don't use to modify many windows files..22:16
shane2peruVermux: if you aren' t sure, that may be the safest way to go, because as I said, I don't even have an ntfs partition22:17
shane2peruVermux: then you can reboot, and all should be fine22:18
Vermuxk, wait here22:19
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shane2peruVermux: I'll be here22:20
Freddy2xD22:20
shane2peruFreddy2: what is xd?22:20
Daisuke_Idoshane2peru: it's a smiley/emoticon22:20
Vermuxwait with the answer till Im back plz22:20
gentlemanwho is there?22:21
shane2peruFreddy2: lol, doesn't show in konversation22:21
Daisuke_Idoshane2peru: it's text, it shows up as text, just like :) and :D and :( and...  the list goes on and on22:21
Freddy2http://www.bakarchivio.org/XD.png22:21
mrksbrdgenii or NOS u here???22:21
Daisuke_Idoif you're seeing xD, it's showing up properly.22:21
Freddy2shane2peru: that's it22:22
shane2peruDaisuke_Ido: all I see is xD   lol, course there is no real way to tell what you are seeing, or what I'm seeing.22:22
shane2peruDaisuke_Ido: I see text. :)22:22
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mrksbrddon't execute me for asking......but has anyone ever attempted to dual boot visa and kubuntu?????22:23
Daisuke_Idothen you're seeing it right22:23
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Vermuxshane2peru: I dont c it on the desktop22:24
shane2peruVermux: hmm, that is odd, I wonder why usb stuff shows up, but not that?22:25
Daisuke_Idomrksbrd: one question mark will suffice, this isn't aol22:25
loccohy22:25
Freddy2Vermux: paste your fstab file here http://phpfi.com//22:25
Gat0rveanhow would I add a kernel parameter when booting from a live CD? (or can I?)22:25
mrksbrdsorry habit22:25
shane2peruVermux: well, at least you can navigate to it via Dolphin, I'm not as familiar with KDE, I'm  an xGnomer :)22:26
mrksbrdgenii u here?22:27
loccoholaaaaaaaaa22:27
VermuxFreddy2: http://phpfi.com/32061622:27
Vermuxok22:27
shane2peru!es | locco22:28
ubottulocco: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.22:28
loccook22:28
Freddy2locco: ya lo sabes XD22:28
Vermuxshane2peru: maybe u can help with this: when Im booting the laptop, I have like 8 options to choose from - all of the are almost identical (ubuntu.... 8.04), safe mode22:28
shane2peruVermux: ha ha, how did you end up with 8 of them!  lol, that is easy to fix22:29
Freddy2Vermux: what about "mount" output? what and where is mounted?22:29
navetzcan someone tell me how to restart my keyboard22:29
Vermuxshane2peru: I think I suppose to have 3 or 4 options, regular mode, safe mode, windows...22:29
mrksbrd!dualboot22:29
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot22:29
shane2peruVermux: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak22:29
Daisuke_IdoVermux: kernel updates add grub lines22:29
Daisuke_IdoVermux: uninstall older kernels through adept or synaptic22:29
Daisuke_Idokeep one or two releases back in case something doesn't work properly22:29
VermuxFreddy2: http://phpfi.com/32061722:30
shane2peruDaisuke_Ido: ahh, right, I forget about that, I always edit my menu.lst :)  lol, but I usually am dual booting with Linux/Linux22:30
Freddy2so windows is mounted at /media/windows22:30
Freddy2go there and check it22:30
VermuxFreddy2: I checked it already, I can access it22:32
Freddy2probably you can enable drives view at desktop, but i don't know how.. i have a "place" at my file manager, and it's fine for me22:33
Vermuxshane2peru: how do I search for old kernels?22:33
Vermuxshane2peru: what's their names?22:33
ubuntu__there's something wrong with the calculator in kubuntu22:34
shane2peruVermux: you can just search for kernel22:34
shane2peruVermux: make sure you leave the most recent, and one old one too22:34
ubuntu__i multiplied 700000 with 5.80 and i got some 4.06e6 gibberish22:35
poseidonubuntu__, Do you have it set to scientific mode?22:35
ubuntu__poseidon: i might22:36
Vermuxshane2peru: linux kernel headers?22:36
shane2peruVermux: I believe so, let me double check22:36
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VermuxFreddy2: didnt find that option. I think Im fine like that22:36
ubuntu__poseidon: no, its in general mode22:36
Freddy2ok, me 222:36
VermuxFreddy2: actually, how do I create a shortcut?22:37
poseidonubuntu__, It's probably to many digits.  It probably has a feature to turn it into scientific mode once the number is x amount of digits long.22:37
Freddy2cd ~/Desktop (or whatever name it has) and ln -s /media/windows windows22:37
Freddy2i think this should work.. try it22:38
shane2peruVermux: I think Linux-image is what you want to remove22:38
VermuxFreddy2: yay!!22:38
poseidonubuntu__, I'm sure you can convert it to a regular number from scientific :)22:38
ubuntu__hmm, i think it's a bad idea having such a mode turned on by default22:38
VermuxFreddy2:22:38
VermuxI created a link to a hard drive device22:38
Freddy2well, you may call it this way, yes22:39
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mrksbrd!geforce22:39
ubottuFactoid geforce not found22:39
ubuntu__i hope i can install the gnome calculator in kde22:39
poseidonubuntu__, It's really so that you don't give an overflow.  It's hard to handle very large numbers.  It's much simpler to do a conversion to scientific rather than to depend on long multiplication.22:39
shane2peruubuntu__: you can22:40
Freddy2i get 406000022:40
navetzcan someone please tell me how to restart my keyboard, my control and shift keys stoped working22:40
mrksbrd!nvidea22:40
ubottuFactoid nvidea not found22:40
mrksbrd!broadcom22:41
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx22:41
FSHeroHi all; is it true that KDE4 in Hardy is not under LTS? If so... can I install KDE3 from Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 (and vice versa: KDE4 from Kubuntu 8.04 LTS)?22:41
Vermuxshane2peru: ok, I removed 2.6.20 and 2.6.2222:42
adz21cFSHero: yes22:42
VermuxI'll reboot again to c the change22:42
Vermuxshane2peru: ^22:42
shane2peruVermux: you did leave the newest ones right?  :)  that should fix it so you don' t have so many choices.22:42
adz21cFSHero: u can install kubuntu-kde4-desktop and kubuntu-desktop (kde3)22:43
Freddy2adz21c: no conflict between same-name apps like kmail? is kde4 creating a ~/.kde4 folder instead?22:43
Vermuxshane2peru: yes, .24 I left22:43
FSHeroadz21c: Thanks. I think I shall install the kde3 version, then add kde4.22:44
poseidonubuntu__, go to view->fixed decimal.  That should fix it.22:44
Vermuxshane2peru: I also left .22 one22:44
shane2peruVermux: ok, you should be good to go22:44
adz21cFreddy2: correct, kde4 stores config in .kde4 and the apps are installed into usr/lib/kde422:44
Vermuxk, rebooting22:44
Qsterhow do i get more than 2 desktops? when i increase the amount to 4 it justs gives two22:45
Freddy2ok, maybe i give it a try in the future, but not know22:45
adz21c:)22:45
Freddy2i've read someplace that plasma is being completely rewriten22:45
Freddy2new api, new bugs, new test time xD22:45
adz21cFreddy2: had a big shake down for 4.122:45
Freddy2adz21c: so is it true? new api for plasma? why?22:46
adz21cFreddy2: qt 4.4 brought some new stuff they been waiting for22:46
Freddy2interesting.. what about v4.1 release date?22:47
adz21cFreddy2: i am using a trunk build now and they cleaned up the bugs they were having quite quickly, its pretty stable now22:47
Freddy2(expected release date)22:47
adz21cFreddy2: you mean the none beta release?22:47
Freddy2i mean 4.1 final release22:47
adz21cFreddy2: late July, 28th or something like that22:48
Freddy2looks very close.. i was expecting it close to october.. we'll see how it works22:48
Vermuxshane2peru: ok, now I have two .22 and two .24, memtest... others, and windows22:48
shane2peruVermux: great!22:49
Freddy2i want kde-pim working, as soon as amarok222:49
Daisuke_IdoVermux: what's the 24?  -16 or -17?22:49
adz21cFreddy2: indeed ... although i have to say i don't have many stability problems so far (although i am not using many of the apps, too lazy to compile it all)22:49
VermuxDaisuke_Ido: -1722:50
Freddy2adz21c: i've seen many lightweight plasmoids for rss feeding, but.. is akregator still alive? i can't live without it :)22:50
Daisuke_IdoVermux: k - i would have kept -16 and -17, since .22 is gutsy's kernel22:50
Daisuke_IdoFreddy2: of course it's still alive22:50
adz21cFreddy2: its in there although i not done a kdepim compile since i left gutsy22:51
VermuxI didnt have 1622:51
Freddy2nice22:51
VermuxDaisuke_Ido: I have 17 0nly22:51
Daisuke_IdoVermux: shouldn't be an issue22:51
VermuxDaisuke_Ido: ok, thanks22:52
Freddy2i've been finally able to get one of my ideas introduced http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12217922:52
ubottuKDE bug 122179 in general "text filters to sources" [Wishlist,New]22:52
Freddy2:D22:52
veniklsusb does not work on my 8.04 all of a sudden.  Why is that?22:52
venikWhen I type it into the Konsole, it just sits there-- no output22:52
scott__ive switched to kde but when i enable compiz it only lets me have 2 desktops anyone experience this?22:54
khaije1!compiz22:56
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:56
jillhi people22:59
jilli need some help22:59
jillcan you?22:59
jillplease, anyone help23:00
alexeyhi23:01
jillhi23:01
alexeyis there any faq channel)23:01
jilli dont know, i am firt time here23:02
jillanybodey help me please with kubuntu 71023:02
alexey1q) why i can not to typr my login and pass in console)23:02
alexeyju 8 0423:02
shane2perujill: what is the question23:02
jillfirst - i dont know why my konqueror doesnt not works on dailup23:03
shane2perualexey: is your keyboard setup correctly?23:03
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shane2perujill: oooh, not sure on that one, sorry, I just recently came to KDE, I know nothing of konqueror23:04
shane2perujill: why don' t you upgrade to 8.04?23:04
jillthe second question23:04
jillim on dialup i cant do this23:04
shane2perujill: ahh, right, understood23:04
jillor send me your copy in Republic of Kazakhstan))))23:05
shane2perujill: lol, I'm in Peru! :)23:05
alexeyi can send you)23:05
jilli take english on one week because my linux doesnt have localisations)23:05
jillalexey, yea? cool23:06
alexeyIt can be in Almaata in 2 days)23:06
jillwhat do you need for that?23:06
jilloh23:06
jillno23:06
jillalex, i leave in east part of KZ23:06
alexeyhm) then i can post it)23:06
jillokay, what do you need? any postcodes maybe?23:07
alexeyshane) are you still here&23:07
alexeyadress)23:07
alexeypostal code23:07
jillonly adress? realy cool23:07
alexeyand youe name)23:07
jillbut how much money i need for that23:07
jill?23:07
shane2perualexey: I'm still here, I don' t do PM :)23:08
alexey)) i dont think it will be a trouble)23:08
alexeymaybe 1us dollar)23:08
alexeyi dont know)23:08
shane2peruwhat keyboard are you using?23:08
alexeySven slim 303))))23:08
shane2perualexey: I'm not really sure, probably when you installed, you needed to make sure the keyboard setting was correct, they give you a little space to type and make sure it workds23:09
jillshane, look. my firefox works properly but konqueror is not23:09
alexeyit works)23:09
alexeyand it works in console23:09
alexeybut after i type a comman23:09
alexeyd23:09
shane2perualexey: console?  like the command line?23:09
jillalex, why konqueror didnt see dialup connection?23:10
alexeyand it saks me for my pass i cant type it)23:10
alexeyasks)))23:10
shane2perualexey: you can type it, it just doesn't show it to you23:10
shane2perutype it and hit return23:10
alexeyreally?23:10
alexeylet me try)23:10
shane2perualexey: yes23:10
alexeyand 1more q23:10
shane2perujill: I would just use firefox. :)23:10
alexeyhow you make you msg red)23:10
shane2perualexey: I type the first four letters of your name and hit tab (it completes the name)23:11
alexeyshane2peru: ok)_23:11
alexeyshane2peru: ths a lot23:11
shane2perualexey: no prob23:12
jillshane2peru, but i have to know if i want use any linux system, i hate when any software exists, but not works)23:12
shane2perujill: there is NO perfect software :)23:12
jillyea, but perfect hands are23:12
jilli have last question, what can i do for playing video in kubuntu?23:13
Odd-rationalejill: kaffeine23:14
shane2peruvideo, what kind of video23:14
jillkaffeine doesnt works, avi-type23:14
shane2perujill: install vlc, that is the greatest player of all, plays everything23:14
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: is there a qt froentend to vlc?23:14
jillgive me a tip how can i install kaffeine avi support23:15
shane2peruOdd-rationale: hmm, not sure I always used to use Gnome23:15
Odd-rationalejill: did you try installinf kubuntu-restricted-extras?23:15
Odd-rationalejill: i was able to play avi in kaffeine...23:15
jillone second i am verifyng23:15
jillin adept manager i havent it23:17
Odd-rationalejill: install it: kubuntu-restricted-extras23:17
Odd-rationalejill: WARNING: it will make you computer less free23:18
jillany terminal command to install it?23:18
jillhow can i do this?23:18
Odd-rationalesudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras23:18
Daisuke_IdoOdd-rationale: you have an odd definition of free - i see the restricted extras as the freedom to play whatever i want :)23:18
shane2peruvlc does work in Kubuntu, I don't know what it is written in, for the record. :)23:19
Daisuke_Idorather than the "freedom" to listen to both of my .oggs23:19
Odd-rationalevlc, at least the one in the repo, is gtk.23:19
jillit couldnt find package kubuntu-restr...23:19
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shane2peruOdd-rationale: aah, then it is gtk, still greatest player, plays about everything under the sun23:20
jillguys23:20
Odd-rationalejill: you may have to check the spelling.23:20
jilli use clipboard23:20
Odd-rationalejill: also, tab completion may help: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-re<tab> and see wthat you get...23:20
Qsteri cant seem to get my virtual desktops to go above 2 even after setting to 4 it defaults back to 2 any ideas?23:20
shane2perukubuntu-restricted-extras23:21
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: phonon will have vlc backends :)23:21
shane2perujill: ^^^23:21
jillno, it doesnt works23:21
Odd-rationalejill: you may need to do "sudo apt-get update" first...23:22
shane2perujill: I did: aptitude search restricted    and it shows you the restricted packages23:22
jillokay23:22
shane2perujill: you will probably need universe and multiverse enabled23:22
shane2peruOdd-rationale: what is phonon?23:22
jillit is doing to update23:23
jillsome packs are loading now23:23
jillthe third pack is big.. for dialup connection, dont go away 5 mins))23:24
jillwhere are installed packages located?23:25
marcutiohi23:27
jillhey guys, what for the dbg files?23:29
jilldebuging where? i dont have any development programs23:29
Kloplop321I have a quick question, how do I chang it so that the mouse scroller, when presed dowm(acts as a middle button) does not paste?23:31
neofaxHello everyone!23:31
eljefethats a huge feature of linux, why would you??23:31
neofaxI cannot update to kernel 2.6.24-17 as I get an error on postinst.23:32
eljefewell, i find it very important and cannot live w/o it23:32
jillfirefox is too slow...23:32
Kloplop321it is annoying, and my scroller is very sositive so it randomly pastes it into the cade I work on when scrolling someitmeo23:32
Kloplop321sometimes*23:32
neofaxjill: Check out: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/21572823:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 215728 in xulrunner-1.9 "[MASTER] Committing to urlclassifier3.sqlite causes excessive CPU usage and disk I/O" [High,Fix released]23:33
jillshane2peru, when i done downloading, what next?23:33
Kloplop321into the code* (I am typnig an a Dvorak keyboard)23:34
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: you haven't heard of phonon?! it is the kde4 multimedia framework23:34
shane2perujill: I think you should be all set to go, just reopen Kaffine, and play the file. :)23:34
belzebubwhich file holds all the monitor settings? in kde423:34
shane2peruOdd-rationale: ohh, I gave KDE4 a go for a bit, still shaky, went back to KDE3. :)23:34
jillafter universe packs it will be fine?23:34
shane2perujill: after it is all done installing the kubuntu-restricted-drivers you should be able to play the avi file23:35
jillshane2peru, thank you very much, realy i have 160Gbytes of video and it very interesting, thanks23:36
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Odd-rationaleshane2peru: kubuntu-restricted-drivers?23:36
shane2perujill: no prob23:36
shane2peruOdd-rationale: ohh, extras, it was the idea, not the package23:37
jillshane2peru, if i have my old kubuntu, i always have to update my systems? if i cant do this, is it very important what release i use?23:38
shane2perujill: if you are on dialup, the updates are probably less important, because they are usually security stuff that effect high speed users more than anything23:39
shane2perujill: if something doesn't work for you, consider updating it. :)23:39
shane2peruif it works, just leave it alone, that will save you a lot of downloading on dialup.23:40
jillshane2peru, okay and last for you - i want to build software on c++, in ASP Linux 12 Carbon (autumn 2007 rpm system) i use KDevelop, in Kubuntu what is it?23:41
Daisuke_Ido...kdevelop23:41
jillin standart package any of this exists?23:42
jillyeaaaaaaa, it works, kaffein are working stable, thanks to shane2peru23:43
tzdi can't write to an external usb hdd that's connected to a router. I can see it and browse the drive via samba but not write to it. My guess is that the permissions are wrong but how do i add a user or make it writeable please? It's ext3 format and the cmd "adduser" does not work23:43
jilli am going to see "American Gungster" today)) ever seen?23:44
belzebubwhich file holds all the monitor settings? in kde423:44
shane2perujill: no prob23:44
tzdjill: yeah, it's a good film ;)23:44
jillshane2peru, where are those packages i download, i want to save it for reintalled kubuntu and my friends23:45
jilli want it on cd23:45
jillwhere they are located?23:45
shane2perujill: ahh, you can save all those, they are in /var/cache/apt/archives23:45
shane2perujill: or something close to that, that is a good idea, especially if you are on dialup, if you have a friend that has highspeed, you can just run aptitude download and download the packages save them in a folder and bring them back to your comptuer23:47
jillshane2peru, cool. i am going to do this23:47
shane2peruaptitude download package name    <- this just saves it in the folder that you are in, and it doesn't get all the dependencies23:48
shane2perujill: ^^^23:48
jillshane2peru, /var/cache/apt/archives empty23:49
shane2perujill: what?23:49
jillshane2peru, only pkgcache.bin and other bin-file23:50
shane2perujill:  /var/cache/apt/archives   that is where mine are, there should be a bunch of .deb files23:50
jilli an going to search all *.deb files on my disk23:51
shane2perujill: slocate *.deb23:51
jillohh, strigi is sucks if honestly23:52
shane2perujill: yes, don't use strigi :)23:52
rootsnatchya I really don't like strigi, when are they going to make strigi actaully good23:53
jillshane2peru, can i remove it safely for another programs, can i just delete it in adept?23:53
shane2perujill: not sure, it is probably attached to the kubuntu-desktop23:54
shane2perujill: you can safely leave it, just run:  slocate *.deb23:54
shane2perujill: that will tell you right now where all those packages are23:54
jillshane2peru, maybe it was *.gpg files download?23:57
shane2perujill: no all the packages are going to be .deb files, that is the debian packaging setup23:58
jillshane2peru, look23:59
jillGet:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release [65.9kB]23:59
jillGet:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages [4065kB]23:59

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