[00:07] <scizzo-> smallfoot-: ?
[00:17] <smallfoot-> scizzo-, it has pretty picture, look
[00:18] <scizzo-> smallfoot-: different colors on the metacity plugin
[00:18] <scizzo-> smallfoot-: umm theme
[05:36] <huff3r> this is the worse day I ever had
[07:45] <loa> friends where i can find script, which gnome execute when i click hibernate button?
[08:32] <TuxCrafter> hello everybody
[08:33] <TuxCrafter> i got an important question
[08:33] <TuxCrafter> i have an server still running feisty
[08:33] <TuxCrafter> it needs an upgrade to the newer e2fsprogs tools
[08:33] <TuxCrafter> i dont have the time to reinstall a new server with hardy setup at this time
[08:34] <TuxCrafter> what are the risk upgrading from feisty to gutsy /
[08:34] <TuxCrafter> will it break the server?
[08:36] <RAOF> TuxCrafter: Probably not; that upgrade is supported.
[08:36] <RAOF> TuxCrafter: Since the only supported way to get feisty -> hardy is to go through gutsy.
[08:37] <TuxCrafter> ok lets hope it will work in all the 10 years i work with linux on the desktop i never had an succesfull upgrade
[08:37] <TuxCrafter> but i never dear to try it on a server
[08:37] <TuxCrafter> but lets see how it goes
[08:37] <TuxCrafter> going to make a backup of the sql databases first
[08:40] <RAOF> Good plan.
[08:44] <TuxCrafter> ok i am ready to upgrade :-p
[08:44] <TuxCrafter> crossing my fingers
[08:56] <TuxCrafter> RAOF: is is adviced to first fully test the feisty->gusty upgrade before doing the gusty->hardy upgrade?
[09:11] <TuxCrafter> RAOF: thinks seems to be working
[09:11] <TuxCrafter> i am going to reboot the server
[09:11] <TuxCrafter> to the new kernel
[09:11] <TuxCrafter> if i dont come back the server is broken/internet to all the clients down :-p
[09:18] <TuxCrafter> ok i am still up and running
[09:18] <TuxCrafter> things seem to be fine
[09:18] <TuxCrafter> going to upgrade to hardy
[09:19] <TuxCrafter> i still need a newer version of dumpe2fs
[09:32] <TuxCrafter> so far so good
[09:52] <TuxCrafter> going to reboot into the hardy kernel :-p
[09:58] <TuxCrafter> up and running
[10:54] <teamcobra> is there a working network-manager 0.7.0 ppa floating around? I can't seem to get asac's version to bring my wireless interface up
[10:56] <TuxCrafter> RAOF: everything seems to went ok
[10:56] <TuxCrafter> the only not so good part was that there were a lot of extra non wanted dependecies
[10:57] <TuxCrafter> like console-kit on a server
[10:57] <TuxCrafter> i also had gtklibs for mkisofs
[10:57] <TuxCrafter> and other strange dependecies
[10:57] <TuxCrafter> messing up the system
[11:20] <TuxCrafter> everybody my sincere thanks for making the upgrades feisty->gutsy>hardy not break the server system :-D and keep an eye on the quality inspection off overkill dependencies so that the system can be kept clean and make the users choose what features they want....
[14:03] <fde> Hello, does Intrepid have kernel 2.6.25 yet by chance?
[14:04] <fde> !info linux-image intrepid
[14:04] <Pici> !info linux intrepid
[14:05] <fde> Guess not... thank you  :)
[14:12] <REVERSEARP> I did a didst-upgrade this morning and it removed firefox 3,  and now I cant install it agian.
[14:12] <REVERSEARP> Any ideas?
[14:14] <danbhfive> in intrepid?
[14:15] <danbhfive> sheit, everything is broken for me in intrepid  :p   buts its pre-alpha, just getting started
[14:16] <TheInfinity> danbhfive: pre alpha software is a funny playground ;)
[14:23] <danbhfive> REVERSEARP: and I was teasing you a bit.  I know about ff3 in hardy.  RC1 is coming out, and there are hiccups, clearly.  But, if you asked in #ubuntu, you would have got that answer too.
[14:51] <Raspberry> I want to record NTSC Channel 3 in linux
[14:52] <Raspberry> basically I'm trying to tape a VHS tape from my VCR to an AVI file on my Linux / MythTV box with two PC-HDTV cards (they do digital and analog)
[14:52] <Raspberry> this should be simple
[14:52] <Raspberry> I don't even need sound as far as I am aware, just video
[14:52] <Raspberry> any suggestions on apps to use
[14:53] <Pici> Raspberry: If you arent asking about Intrepid, I suggest asking in #ubuntu, #ubuntu-studio and maybe ##linux too :)
[14:58] <Oli```> Raspberry: most VCRs will output a RF signal, right?
[14:59] <Oli```> Raspberry: so tune into it over analogue, use any TV recording app that supports analogue streams (not sure which) to dump as a mpeg and then use something like Avidemux to convert to avi
[15:00] <Raspberry> sorry for asking in the wrong place -- I was running hardy and this was my default channel
[15:00] <Raspberry> What would be a recommended TV recording app for linux?
[15:01] <Raspberry> I'm currently running MythTV on the box, but that's a big "PITA" to get it to record and output a single channel
[15:01] <Raspberry> I might just do that
[15:02] <Oli```> Raspberry: Yeah Myth does dodgy things to its recordings in the way of metadata. I'd just use something like Kaffeine but I'm not sure if that supports analogue streams (I use it for timeshifting DVB-T)
[15:39] <Raspberry> yeah I need something that supports analog streams
[15:40] <Raspberry> it's really frustrating :)
[15:40] <Raspberry> I just spent 40 minutes screwing around with mythtv to get the analog stream working and now it just crashes the backend and nothing works
[15:54] <Oli```> Raspberry: can you connect through V4L? In something like Cheese?
[16:18] <mophead> ibex?  I thought it was ibis
[16:19] <mophead> then again, that's too close to a heron
[16:19] <mophead> anyway, bye
[18:24] <ompaul> where's chanserv?
[18:25] <ompaul> Pici, op me please
[18:25] <ompaul> thanks
[18:25] <Pici> ompaul: see global notices
[18:25] <ompaul> Pici, obviously not ;-)
[18:25] <ompaul> but I will
[18:26] <Pici> Indeed
[18:26] <ompaul> I did
[18:26] <ompaul> and now understand
[18:27] <ompaul> you might as well op me in #u and -ops and -ot also I don't think I want any more than that atm - back in 15 mins
[18:27] <ompaul> Pici, thanks for the heads up
[18:31] <DanaG> should s/from //
[18:44] <WoDaN> let's hope nobody extends that topic
[18:44] <WoDaN> soon we'll have to scroll to read it all :P
[21:02] <linux1> evening ppl
[21:48] <linux1> hiya does anyone know what version of xorg going to be in ibex
[23:28] <Oli```> I guess that depends on the development of xorg
[23:29] <Oli```> I'm sure they'd like to include multi-pointer functionality, but if that's not ready and stable by the feature freeze (August 28th), it wont make it in
[23:30] <Oli```> Remember that it also relies upon the status of the kernel and various binary graphics drivers too
[23:31] <Oli```> ^ @ linux1 (just a poke because I notice the question was posted a while ago)
[23:36] <RAOF> Oli```: I don't think MPX _does_ rely on the state of graphics drivers or the kernel.  Although it's true that a new Xorg will likely break binary drivers, and some cool new features are waiting for some kernel infrastructure.
[23:38] <Oli```> I'm sure both the kernel and binary drivers will be way ahead of the game, come lock-down. They've put basic buggy implementations in place and with some hacking you can get things working today, if you're that way inclined. Xorg itself will, I fear, be the final limiting factor
[23:39] <Oli```> Is there a roadmap
[23:39] <Oli```> excuse that last line for a second
[23:40] <Oli```> Is there a roadmap/high-level-changelog for the kernel in terms of major features? I'd be interested to see (without all the nonsensical fluff) what's happening and what's planned for 2.6.26/27
[23:58] <RAOF> Oli```: There kinda is, somewhere.  I think kerneltrap maintains one?  And there's something like 'kernelnovice' that does the same.