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scizzo-smallfoot-: ?00:07
smallfoot-scizzo-, it has pretty picture, look00:17
scizzo-smallfoot-: different colors on the metacity plugin00:18
scizzo-smallfoot-: umm theme00:18
huff3rthis is the worse day I ever had05:36
loafriends where i can find script, which gnome execute when i click hibernate button?07:45
TuxCrafterhello everybody08:32
TuxCrafteri got an important question08:33
TuxCrafteri have an server still running feisty08:33
TuxCrafterit needs an upgrade to the newer e2fsprogs tools08:33
TuxCrafteri dont have the time to reinstall a new server with hardy setup at this time08:33
TuxCrafterwhat are the risk upgrading from feisty to gutsy /08:34
TuxCrafterwill it break the server?08:34
RAOFTuxCrafter: Probably not; that upgrade is supported.08:36
RAOFTuxCrafter: Since the only supported way to get feisty -> hardy is to go through gutsy.08:36
TuxCrafterok lets hope it will work in all the 10 years i work with linux on the desktop i never had an succesfull upgrade08:37
TuxCrafterbut i never dear to try it on a server08:37
TuxCrafterbut lets see how it goes08:37
TuxCraftergoing to make a backup of the sql databases first08:37
RAOFGood plan.08:40
TuxCrafterok i am ready to upgrade :-p08:44
TuxCraftercrossing my fingers08:44
TuxCrafterRAOF: is is adviced to first fully test the feisty->gusty upgrade before doing the gusty->hardy upgrade?08:56
TuxCrafterRAOF: thinks seems to be working09:11
TuxCrafteri am going to reboot the server09:11
TuxCrafterto the new kernel09:11
TuxCrafterif i dont come back the server is broken/internet to all the clients down :-p09:11
TuxCrafterok i am still up and running09:18
TuxCrafterthings seem to be fine09:18
TuxCraftergoing to upgrade to hardy09:18
TuxCrafteri still need a newer version of dumpe2fs09:19
TuxCrafterso far so good09:32
TuxCraftergoing to reboot into the hardy kernel :-p09:52
TuxCrafterup and running09:58
=== Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian
teamcobrais there a working network-manager 0.7.0 ppa floating around? I can't seem to get asac's version to bring my wireless interface up10:54
TuxCrafterRAOF: everything seems to went ok10:56
TuxCrafterthe only not so good part was that there were a lot of extra non wanted dependecies10:56
TuxCrafterlike console-kit on a server10:57
TuxCrafteri also had gtklibs for mkisofs10:57
TuxCrafterand other strange dependecies10:57
TuxCraftermessing up the system10:57
=== gribelu_ is now known as gribelu
TuxCraftereverybody my sincere thanks for making the upgrades feisty->gutsy>hardy not break the server system :-D and keep an eye on the quality inspection off overkill dependencies so that the system can be kept clean and make the users choose what features they want....11:20
fdeHello, does Intrepid have kernel 2.6.25 yet by chance?14:03
fde!info linux-image intrepid14:04
ubottulinux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.24.16.18 (intrepid), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB14:04
Pici!info linux intrepid14:04
ubottulinux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.24.16.18 (intrepid), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB14:04
fdeGuess not... thank you  :)14:05
REVERSEARPI did a didst-upgrade this morning and it removed firefox 3,  and now I cant install it agian.14:12
REVERSEARPAny ideas?14:12
danbhfivein intrepid?14:14
danbhfivesheit, everything is broken for me in intrepid  :p   buts its pre-alpha, just getting started14:15
TheInfinitydanbhfive: pre alpha software is a funny playground ;)14:16
danbhfiveREVERSEARP: and I was teasing you a bit.  I know about ff3 in hardy.  RC1 is coming out, and there are hiccups, clearly.  But, if you asked in #ubuntu, you would have got that answer too.14:23
RaspberryI want to record NTSC Channel 3 in linux14:51
Raspberrybasically I'm trying to tape a VHS tape from my VCR to an AVI file on my Linux / MythTV box with two PC-HDTV cards (they do digital and analog)14:52
Raspberrythis should be simple14:52
RaspberryI don't even need sound as far as I am aware, just video14:52
Raspberryany suggestions on apps to use14:52
PiciRaspberry: If you arent asking about Intrepid, I suggest asking in #ubuntu, #ubuntu-studio and maybe ##linux too :)14:53
Oli```Raspberry: most VCRs will output a RF signal, right?14:58
Oli```Raspberry: so tune into it over analogue, use any TV recording app that supports analogue streams (not sure which) to dump as a mpeg and then use something like Avidemux to convert to avi14:59
Raspberrysorry for asking in the wrong place -- I was running hardy and this was my default channel15:00
RaspberryWhat would be a recommended TV recording app for linux?15:00
RaspberryI'm currently running MythTV on the box, but that's a big "PITA" to get it to record and output a single channel15:01
RaspberryI might just do that15:01
Oli```Raspberry: Yeah Myth does dodgy things to its recordings in the way of metadata. I'd just use something like Kaffeine but I'm not sure if that supports analogue streams (I use it for timeshifting DVB-T)15:02
Raspberryyeah I need something that supports analog streams15:39
Raspberryit's really frustrating :)15:40
RaspberryI just spent 40 minutes screwing around with mythtv to get the analog stream working and now it just crashes the backend and nothing works15:40
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Oli```Raspberry: can you connect through V4L? In something like Cheese?15:54
mopheadibex?  I thought it was ibis16:18
mopheadthen again, that's too close to a heron16:19
mopheadanyway, bye16:19
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=== Ronald|Laptop is now known as Ronald
ompaulwhere's chanserv?18:24
ompaulPici, op me please18:25
ompaulthanks18:25
=== ompaul changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to the home of the Intrepid Ibex, the code name for the next release of Ubuntu due out in October. For more info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | Intrepid is PRE-ALPHA software, and we do NOT recommend users upgrade at this time. Only developers comfortable with very significant instability and recovering from systems which have suffered up to total system failure should consider running Intrepid for now.
Piciompaul: see global notices18:25
ompaulPici, obviously not ;-)18:25
ompaulbut I will18:25
PiciIndeed18:26
ompaulI did18:26
ompauland now understand18:26
ompaulyou might as well op me in #u and -ops and -ot also I don't think I want any more than that atm - back in 15 mins18:27
ompaulPici, thanks for the heads up18:27
DanaGshould s/from //18:31
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=== fdd-0 is now known as fdd
WoDaNlet's hope nobody extends that topic18:44
WoDaNsoon we'll have to scroll to read it all :P18:44
linux1evening ppl21:02
linux1hiya does anyone know what version of xorg going to be in ibex21:48
Oli```I guess that depends on the development of xorg23:28
Oli```I'm sure they'd like to include multi-pointer functionality, but if that's not ready and stable by the feature freeze (August 28th), it wont make it in23:29
Oli```Remember that it also relies upon the status of the kernel and various binary graphics drivers too23:30
Oli```^ @ linux1 (just a poke because I notice the question was posted a while ago)23:31
RAOFOli```: I don't think MPX _does_ rely on the state of graphics drivers or the kernel.  Although it's true that a new Xorg will likely break binary drivers, and some cool new features are waiting for some kernel infrastructure.23:36
Oli```I'm sure both the kernel and binary drivers will be way ahead of the game, come lock-down. They've put basic buggy implementations in place and with some hacking you can get things working today, if you're that way inclined. Xorg itself will, I fear, be the final limiting factor23:38
Oli```Is there a roadmap23:39
Oli```excuse that last line for a second23:39
Oli```Is there a roadmap/high-level-changelog for the kernel in terms of major features? I'd be interested to see (without all the nonsensical fluff) what's happening and what's planned for 2.6.26/2723:40
RAOFOli```: There kinda is, somewhere.  I think kerneltrap maintains one?  And there's something like 'kernelnovice' that does the same.23:58

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