| RoAkSoAx | norsetto, any sign of nxvl? | 00:39 |
|---|---|---|
| norsetto | RoAkSoAx: nope | 00:39 |
| RoAkSoAx | norsetto, wierd!! he might be in a nice bridge since he does not give any signs of being alive!! | 00:40 |
| norsetto | RoAkSoAx: well, its almost 2am here, so I don't think he will phone soon, I think his flight is in few hours actually | 00:41 |
| RoAkSoAx | norsetto, i see... here is almost 7pm... and i was expecting him to be present at the Americas Membership meeting since i'm applying and he was supporting me... but well.. | 00:42 |
| norsetto | RoAkSoAx: I guess he didn't find any internet café with Ubuntu computers ;-) | 00:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | norsetto, hahah yeah!! and neither a open wireless connection for his laptop... (here in my Perú you can find thousands since no one is aware of wireless security) | 00:43 |
| viperhoot | where you are nxvl... xS | 00:44 |
| norsetto | oh well, time to rest these poor bones | 00:45 |
| viperhoot | hahah | 00:46 |
| RAOF | Aha! It's not my crypttab that's broken, it's the initramfs :) | 01:04 |
| RAOF | Ok, and maybe cryptsetup. | 01:05 |
| RAOF | Awkward. | 01:05 |
| kirkland | kees: fair enough, i'll bug you again if they haven't taken it by FF for Intrepid | 01:08 |
| kees | kirkland: yup, sounds totally right | 01:11 |
| nixternal | anyone in here want to attest at just how annoying RoAkSoAx is and think he should be an Ubuntu member, #ubuntu-meeting now :) | 01:15 |
| RoAkSoAx | nixternal, nxvl would but he is still in Europe :( | 01:15 |
| cody-somerville | lol | 01:15 |
| nhandler | I'm doing a merge on a package where the source directory is not in named in the format <sourcepackage>-<upstreamversion>. dpkg-source gives a warning about this. Should I rename the source directory, or should I leave it as it is? | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | ignore | 02:30 |
| persia_ | nhandler: I'd keep the pattern used in the Debian package if they differ. Otherwise, it's not important (except where you are the packager or maintainer). | 02:31 |
| nhandler | persia_: Ok, thanks for your help | 02:34 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:39 |
| TheMuso | Hey bddebian. | 02:46 |
| bddebian | Heya TheMuso | 02:52 |
| * persia_ notes that 744 packages currently appear on http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ if anyone wants to chase down build failures | 05:11 | |
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| siretart | ScottK: yes? | 06:07 |
| ajmitch | hello siretart | 06:08 |
| siretart | hi ajmitch | 06:08 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:04 |
| StevenK | dholbach: You sent a '.' to the xmms2 merge bug? | 07:11 |
| dholbach | StevenK: I sent the "Steve: can you please take a look at it?" unfortunately before I subscribed you to it | 07:12 |
| StevenK | But it's xmms2! | 07:12 |
| dholbach | errrr | 07:12 |
| dholbach | bug number? | 07:12 |
| dholbach | StevenK: ^ | 07:13 |
| dholbach | nm, got it | 07:13 |
| StevenK | Trying to find it | 07:13 |
| dholbach | bug 178477? | 07:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 178477 in xmms2 "Please merge: XMMS2 0.4 DrKosmos" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178477 | 07:13 |
| dholbach | where's a "." there? | 07:13 |
| StevenK | Maybe that was Thunderbird being dorky | 07:13 |
| dholbach | I sent that on the bluez-utils merge | 07:13 |
| StevenK | Oh! | 07:14 |
| StevenK | Right | 07:14 |
| StevenK | Then I confused the two bugs | 07:14 |
| dholbach | alright | 07:14 |
| pochu | \sh: can you have a look at bug 198618? you removed some files in a previous upload for which people are complaining | 08:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 198618 in opencryptoki "Critical parts of library missing from the package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198618 | 08:00 |
| pochu | stgraber: you should use '-s' with requestsync, as you need an ACK | 08:49 |
| Arby | pochu: you rejected my merge of kdmtheme, could you give me someidea what's wrong with it? | 08:52 |
| Arby | from the point of view of some one still learning just saying 'the debdiff looks wrong' doesn't tell me much | 08:53 |
| Arby | since I'm still learning what 'right' is supposed to look like | 08:53 |
| Arby | sorry forget link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdmtheme/+bug/227912 | 08:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 227912 in kdmtheme "merge kdmtheme 1.2.2-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 08:55 |
| stgraber | pochu: oh right, forgot this option ... | 08:56 |
| stgraber | pochu: thanks for the ack | 08:57 |
| * highvoltage | 08:57 | |
| pochu | Arby: look at the beginning of http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14346701/kdmtheme_1.2.2-1ubuntu1.debdiff, you are removing changelog entries instead of adding them | 09:00 |
| pochu | Arby: basically I think you did 'debdiff new old' instead of 'debdiff old new' | 09:00 |
| pochu | Arby: also, please attach a debian->ubuntu debdiff, that's usually easier to review | 09:00 |
| pochu | Arby: sorry for not saying what was wrong, btw | 09:01 |
| Arby | pochu: no problem, just means I have to bug you here :) | 09:01 |
| Arby | at least that's an easy thing to fix | 09:01 |
| pochu | yeah | 09:01 |
| Arby | I thought you meant the actual content was wrong. | 09:02 |
| Arby | I'll fix it later (probably at weekend) | 09:02 |
| pochu | no, I haven't actually looked into it yet | 09:02 |
| Arby | I'm at work right now | 09:02 |
| pochu | Arby: ok, when you do it attach both a ubuntu->ubuntu and a debian->ubuntu debdiffs :) | 09:02 |
| Arby | pochu: ok, thanks for the feedback :) | 09:03 |
| AzaTht | how do you keep track of changes you make to debian packages? | 09:04 |
| pochu | AzaTht: mentioning them in debian/changelog | 09:09 |
| AzaTht | no, I meant more how to handle changes | 09:22 |
| pochu | AzaTht: ah, we merge our changes with the Debian package at the beginning of the development cycle (and we sync if possible) | 09:24 |
| AzaTht | ok | 09:27 |
| AzaTht | a pile of patched in an directory? | 09:27 |
| AzaTht | patches* | 09:27 |
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| charliecb | hi | 09:58 |
| charliecb | is there any document which describes the process of syncing the debian-repos with the ubuntu-repos? | 09:59 |
| charliecb | i can't find some packages in the ubuntu-repos, but i find the package in the debian-repos.. | 09:59 |
| charliecb | for example libjava-gnome-java or libjogl-java | 10:00 |
| dholbach | charliecb: if the package is not in Ubuntu yet it will be synced automatically in one of the auto-sync runs (if it's not in experimental) | 10:00 |
| dholbach | all packages with no ubuntu-local changes will be synced automatically until DebianImportFreeze | 10:01 |
| charliecb | dholbach: but i'm waiting since the beginning of intrepid and noting is synced. | 10:01 |
| dholbach | is it in non-free or contrib? | 10:01 |
| dholbach | in those cases it might need an explicit sync request, but I'm not sure | 10:01 |
| \sh | moins | 10:01 |
| dholbach | best to ask in #ubuntu-devel | 10:01 |
| charliecb | dholbach: one is in non-free, but one not. | 10:02 |
| siretart | libjava-gnome-java | 4.0.7-1 | intrepid/universe | amd64, i386 | 10:02 |
| siretart | libjogl-java | 1.1.1-1 | unstable/non-free | source, all | 10:02 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess for explicit sync requests | 10:03 |
| siretart | so that one would probably need a manual sync request to get it into multiverse | 10:03 |
| charliecb | siretart: how do you search? i use packages.ubuntu.com and there i can't find both packages. | 10:03 |
| dholbach | hey luisbg | 10:03 |
| dholbach | Mr VJ :) | 10:03 |
| luisbg | hey dholbach :) | 10:03 |
| siretart | charliecb: I prefer rmadison(1) to do those searches. it supports multiple source using '-u ubuntu' or '-u qa' for debian | 10:03 |
| luisbg | it was awesome to vj with you guys spinning | 10:04 |
| siretart | charliecb: it is part of the 'devscripts' package | 10:04 |
| luisbg | dholbach, I want to do it again :) | 10:04 |
| dholbach | luisbg: same here - it was just awesome | 10:04 |
| charliecb | siretart: dholbach: ok. thank you | 10:04 |
| dholbach | charliecb: anytime | 10:04 |
| luisbg | dholbach, was your car toed after that? | 10:04 |
| dholbach | luisbg: no, on the sunday before when we went to see the club for the first time - we parked in the wrong spot | 10:05 |
| dholbach | luisbg: it was for "locals only" | 10:05 |
| luisbg | dholbach, :S | 10:05 |
| dholbach | 2000 ckz *RING* | 10:05 |
| luisbg | ouch! | 10:05 |
| huats | hey dholbach | 10:22 |
| huats | :) | 10:22 |
| dholbach | hiya huats :9 | 10:23 |
| huats | does anybody can have a look at 180223 | 10:43 |
| huats | I need some sponsoring there.... | 10:43 |
| huats | yeah I mean bug 180223 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 180223 in autopano-sift "Incorrect handling of filenames with spaces" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180223 | 10:44 |
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| huats | pochu: sure | 11:32 |
| huats | pochu: otherwise I won't ask for a sponsor :) | 11:33 |
| norsetto | huats! | 11:33 |
| huats | norsetto !!! | 11:33 |
| norsetto | huats!!! | 11:33 |
| huats | norsetto !!! | 11:33 |
| pochu | huats: I've seen many sponsorship requests lately that even failed to build, so nothing surprises me now ;) | 11:34 |
| pochu | pochu! | 11:34 |
| pochu | :) | 11:34 |
| huats | pochu | 11:40 |
| huats | ! | 11:40 |
| huats | ;) | 11:40 |
| huats | it is not my kind :) | 11:41 |
| huats | (well I guess an error can happen but I use to test everything...) | 11:41 |
| huats | (and if I want to become a MOTU one day, I have to take great care of my sponsorhip requests.... so let's start from the beginning) | 11:42 |
| pochu | that's a very inteligent position :) | 11:44 |
| directhex | maybe a merge for something in main wasn't the best place to start a packaging career | 11:44 |
| slytherin | when is the next revu day? | 11:44 |
| directhex | oh, on a related note, what's the explicit policy regarding updates & backports for packages in main? | 11:45 |
| pochu | for backports, same as for universe | 11:45 |
| slytherin | !sru | 11:45 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 11:45 |
| pochu | slytherin: no idea, ask nixternal :) | 11:46 |
| directhex | backports are for "primarily desktop applications"? | 11:52 |
| slytherin | directhex: not necessary, as long as you follow the policy and jdong is willing to put effort you can request backport for any application. :-) | 11:53 |
| directhex | i'll wait until (if?) the intrepid package gets merged before i bug him | 11:55 |
| norsetto | huats: I have got some boring stuff you may want to help with? | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | we're advertising boring stuff now? | 12:14 |
| norsetto | Hobbsee: marketing strategy | 12:14 |
| Hobbsee | norsetto: i figured, but do you think it'll work? | 12:15 |
| norsetto | Hobbsee: what you don't know is that I have a bottle of Armagnac on the other hand ... | 12:15 |
| Hobbsee | norsetto: ahhhh. | 12:15 |
| Hobbsee | norsetto: my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ conquers it, like it does anything else, so i don't need to worry, but i see your point. | 12:16 |
| norsetto | !long-pointy-stick | 12:16 |
| ubottu | norsetto: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 12:16 |
| norsetto | hmmmmm | 12:16 |
| Hobbsee | !Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ | 12:16 |
| ubottu | Hobbsee: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 12:16 |
| Hobbsee | !hobbsee | 12:17 |
| ubottu | I phear the stick so shhhhh | 12:17 |
| norsetto | lol | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | !-hobbsee | 12:17 |
| ubottu | hobbsee has no aliases - added by ompaul on 2007-05-10 14:42:04 | 12:17 |
| sistpoty|work | hi folks | 12:19 |
| norsetto | heya sistpoty|work | 12:21 |
| sistpoty|work | hi norsetto | 12:21 |
| norsetto | ah, this place is so calm and relaxing without sebner | 12:22 |
| nhandler | Do you guys think that adding dh_icons is a big enough change to require a merge? Or should that change be dropped in order to do a sync? | 12:23 |
| norsetto | nhandler: has this been reported to debian? | 12:24 |
| nhandler | norsetto: The patch from the last Ubuntu version was submitted to Debian | 12:25 |
| sebner | norsetto: :( :( :( I'm here :P But I'm less stupid as you suggested ;) | 12:26 |
| sebner | hoi sistpoty|work | 12:26 |
| norsetto | nhandler: and? Do they give a reason for not including it? | 12:26 |
| sistpoty|work | hi sebner | 12:26 |
| huats | norsetto: sure | 12:26 |
| huats | if I can | 12:26 |
| norsetto | sebner: :-) | 12:26 |
| huats | sorry for the delay, I was away (I need some food :)) | 12:27 |
| norsetto | huats: I thoughts so ;-) We are almost finished with the ocaml transition, all that is left is few packages which needs a rebuild test | 12:27 |
| huats | sure | 12:28 |
| huats | I'll have a look at it | 12:28 |
| huats | ... | 12:28 |
| huats | do you have any pointer ? | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | they allow food in the dungeon? | 12:28 |
| norsetto | huats: you will find them in ubuntuwire, they show up as depends failed | 12:28 |
| huats | :) | 12:28 |
| huats | ok | 12:28 |
| huats | I will | 12:28 |
| huats | I'll have a look in the afternoon | 12:29 |
| norsetto | huats: sure, thanks for helping | 12:29 |
| huats | norsetto: my pleasure :) | 12:29 |
| norsetto | huats: and now I think _I_ go to eat something | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | norsetto: how many bugs are still open? | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | norsetto: nope, too many. no food for you. *cracks whip* | 12:30 |
| norsetto | Hobbsee: only about 50 000 | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | definetly too many. fix the bugs instead of food. | 12:30 |
| * ajmitch is waiting for Hobbsee to fix the rest | 12:31 | |
| ajmitch | surely you'll be leading by example | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: no, i lead by cracking the whip and such. | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: anyway, quiet you, else i'll go back to handing you 10x diffs at a time for you to upload. | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | but you can upload them yourself! | 12:33 |
| * ajmitch has this wonderful mail folder called /dev/null | 12:33 | |
| Hobbsee | i know, but it's more fun to make you do them. | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | good luck there | 12:34 |
| * norsetto <- food | 12:34 | |
| \sh | phew | 12:36 |
| \sh | hard day | 12:37 |
| sistpoty|work | s/hard/hot/ for me *sweat* | 12:39 |
| * Hobbsee dumps the two of you in the ocean. | 12:41 | |
| sistpoty|work | thanks, Hobbsee | 12:41 |
| Hobbsee | sistpoty|work: you're welcome. cooler now? | 12:42 |
| sistpoty|work | indeed :) | 12:42 |
| nhandler | So norsetto, do you have an answer about whether or not adding dh_icons is significant enough to need a merge? Or should it be dropped for a sync? | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | last i knew, it should be merged still | 12:45 |
| nhandler | Hobbsee: Ok, thanks. I'll upload the debdiff. Worst case scenario is that it isn't used, and the package is synced instead | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | nhandler: it's a change which makes the gnome cache more efficient, so i don't think it's something that we want to get rid of | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | nhandler: although a dh_iconcache --> dh_icons change is fine, fyi | 12:48 |
| nhandler | Hobsee: The actual change was adding dh_iconcache. I was told that it was obsolete (on a previous merge), so I replaced iot with dh_icons. | 12:49 |
| RainCT | (it doesn't only make it more efficient, but in some cases there are icons which aren't even shown if dh_icons isn't used) | 12:50 |
| nhandler | Hobsee: RainCT: Thanks for your help. I submitted a debdiff for the package | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | RainCT: ah, i stand corrected. | 12:54 |
| RainCT | btw, needs-packaging bugs (which are being reviewed on REVU) shouldn't have u-u-s subscribed, or? | 12:55 |
| RainCT | (there are some in the sponsors queue) | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | don't ask me, i'm not the head anymore :) | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | check what the doc says | 12:55 |
| directhex | woo, won my gpl violation complaint | 14:31 |
| lukehasnoname | who was breaking it? | 14:34 |
| directhex | taiwanese tv card manufacturer Compro | 14:34 |
| lukehasnoname | rofl | 14:35 |
| pdlnhr1 | can anyone explain why ff3 was removed this morning? or point to a ticket giving a good reason. if i remember the release notes for 8.04 firefox3 was part of the plan... . | 14:42 |
| * erUSUL joins pdlnhr1 in the question | 14:42 | |
| erUSUL | and i add why the same happened to me with openoffice.org packages (among other things that went as dependencies) | 14:43 |
| soren | pdlnhr1: Removed? | 14:44 |
| pdlnhr1 | http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/ | 14:44 |
| pdlnhr1 | yeah... firefox3 was removed this morning on update | 14:45 |
| dholbach | some translation pack packages are being held on my amd64 at the moment - if I'd dist-upgrade now, it's remove a bunch translation packages - is that the problem you're talking about? | 14:45 |
| soren | I didn't think update-manager would let you remove things.. | 14:46 |
| dholbach | no, it shouldn't | 14:46 |
| soren | Oh, you're apt-get dist-upgrading? | 14:46 |
| pdlnhr1 | soren: it came through as a partial-upgrade | 14:46 |
| pdlnhr1 | nope... i clicked the little update icon in the corner | 14:47 |
| pdlnhr1 | i am not the only one erUSUL had the same experience | 14:47 |
| erUSUL | dholbach: yeah a bunch of packages included firefox 3 and openoffice.org packages (with language packs and another related packages) | 14:48 |
| pdlnhr1 | i thought ff3 was a feature of 8.04 which if i recall is LTS which is why we waited to upgrade till now, and it took a while to get all the plugins working correctly again in ff and to have it just remove REALLY sucked... just seems bad form to me | 14:49 |
| erUSUL | soren: if you accet the so called "partial upgrade" it will do | 14:49 |
| erUSUL | accept* | 14:49 |
| dholbach | what does dpkg -l firefox say? | 14:49 |
| erUSUL | dholbach: can i paste here¿? | 14:50 |
| dholbach | just the last line | 14:50 |
| pdlnhr1 | http://pastebin.com/m535f62d4 | 14:50 |
| dholbach | weird - it was really removed - very weird | 14:51 |
| pdlnhr1 | i just d/l'd it to ~home/firefox and created a symlink but till this is resolved... i can not let any of my devolpers upgrade their machines | 14:52 |
| dholbach | what happens if you run sudo apt-get install firefox3 ? don't press enter - just see what the upgrader wants to do | 14:53 |
| pdlnhr1 | E: Couldn't find package firefox3 | 14:53 |
| dholbach | hu?! | 14:53 |
| dholbach | can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? | 14:53 |
| pdlnhr1 | yup | 14:53 |
| pochu | pdlnhr1, erUSUL: are you running -proposed? | 14:54 |
| erUSUL | dholbach: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 just wroked !@#!@# | 14:55 |
| erUSUL | pochu: yep | 14:55 |
| pdlnhr1 | http://pastebin.com/d244764b4 | 14:55 |
| dholbach | erUSUL: which packages did it want to remove or change? | 14:55 |
| pochu | right, that's because xulrunner 3.0rc1 / firefox3.0 rc1 and many other packages have been updated there, and they weren't/aren't built yet | 14:55 |
| erUSUL | dholbach: know i only have to reinstall the language packas openoffice.org and what not :| | 14:55 |
| pdlnhr1 | i am not anymore... because i don't want it to happen again.. but up to an hour ago i was running proposed | 14:56 |
| pochu | either don't update until it doesn't want to remove anything, or don't use -proposed :) | 14:56 |
| erUSUL | dholbach: hard to say or remember and i do not run "script" ... | 14:56 |
| dholbach | erUSUL: use "gksu gnome-language-selector" it should do it all for you | 14:56 |
| erUSUL | dholbach: i know... ;) | 14:56 |
| pochu | (or use update-manager) | 14:56 |
| dholbach | the problem with the language stuff in -proposed should be shaken out in some hours | 14:57 |
| dholbach | I'd suggest what pochu said | 14:57 |
| erUSUL | pochu: update-manager does remove the packages and the proposed packages that depend on other packages has to be uploaded at once if not people can not test the packages | 14:57 |
| pochu | erUSUL: oh, it removes packages? that's weird | 14:58 |
| erUSUL | pochu: it offers what it calls a "Partial Upgrade" and if you accept it removes the packages | 14:58 |
| pochu | ah, indeed | 14:59 |
| erUSUL | pochu: it is true that doing dist-upgrade just makes things worse :| | 14:59 |
| pdlnhr1 | well... i guess it is a known issue now... not much i can do about it... ill have to wait till they re add it to the repos | 14:59 |
| pdlnhr1 | but i won't be doing any updates on any of our developers machines for a while | 14:59 |
| pochu | luckily end users aren't supposed to use -proposed, and you guys know how to fix things :) | 14:59 |
| pochu | and this won't (shouldn't) happen in -updates | 15:00 |
| pdlnhr1 | pochu: yeah.. but it alows us to test out software and file bug reports | 15:00 |
| pdlnhr1 | i guess it is a catch 22 | 15:00 |
| pochu | pdlnhr1: right, I guess update-manager could be more verbose when it's going to remove packages... | 15:00 |
| pdlnhr1 | pochu: well... not much else to be said on the subject... thanks for letting me vent... i will keep an eye out for it to be re added | 15:01 |
| erUSUL | pochu: it does says that it will remove packages but how do i know if that's a required step on the "Partial Upgrade" thing or is just a defect on update manager?? | 15:03 |
| pochu | erUSUL: good point. I guess it could tell what packages it's going to remove. does that make sense? | 15:04 |
| pochu | erUSUL: so in this case you would have seen it was going to remove firefox and you would have canceled the update | 15:05 |
| pdlnhr1 | pochu: it tells you... but only after it had started the partial upgrade | 15:05 |
| pdlnhr1 | personally.. i thought it was going to replace it with RC1 | 15:06 |
| erUSUL | pochu: the fact is that i saw that it would remove this things but i though (and i guess i was not the only one) that the removing of this packages was a needed step on the "Partial Upgrade" | 15:06 |
| erUSUL | pochu: the gui of the partial upgrade is like the one you face on a dist-upgrade and in a dist-upgrade packages get removed . i just though that this was a similar case (packages will be removed and others newly installed) | 15:08 |
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| pochu | erUSUL, pdlnhr1: ok, thanks for your feedback. I've told about this issue to the maintainer of update-manager and he can reproduce it, so hopefully he will be able to fix/improve it. I've also forwarded your commends to him | 15:12 |
| pdlnhr1 | pochu: thanks.... have a great day all.... | 15:13 |
| erUSUL | pochu: thanks; much apreciated | 15:16 |
| huats | trying to build a java package, I run into "You must specify a valid JAVA_HOME or JAVACMD!" while I use debuild -S -sa | 15:18 |
| huats | does anybody has faced that before ? | 15:18 |
| a|wen | huats: you probably use java in the clean target, and the java executable want's the JAVA_HOME env variable set | 15:21 |
| pochu | anybody using hardy + vinagre? | 15:23 |
| a|wen | how do i request a backport, if a small dependency change is needed in debian/controls ... do a normal backport request and attach the debdiff? and what should the version numbering then be? | 15:24 |
| huats | a|wen: it is using java in the clean target | 15:25 |
| pochu | a|wen: what's that change? maybe a backport of another package avoids needing to change it | 15:25 |
| huats | so I need to have JAVA_HOME set in my env ? | 15:25 |
| a|wen | pochu: it's libqt4-dev ... ahh, but I see that a correct version is already in backports, then it should be okay, or? | 15:27 |
| pochu | I think so | 15:28 |
| pochu | but I'm not a backporter :) | 15:28 |
| a|wen | huats: i should think so; are you running debuild using sudo, then that might be why you don't have it | 15:28 |
| a|wen | pochu: he :) ... do you know if the PPA's include backport packages, so I can test if it builds? | 15:28 |
| Hobbsee | a|wen: they don't. | 15:29 |
| * a|wen considers making himself a backport pbuilder to hardy | 15:30 | |
| huats | a|wen: no | 15:31 |
| huats | a|wen: using my regular user | 15:31 |
| a|wen | huats: then you might have luck setting a JAVA_HOME env variable | 15:32 |
| huats | pochu: I have corrected the gnome-subtitles debdiff to include the maintener field | 15:34 |
| huats | ... | 15:34 |
| huats | a|wen: I'll do it | 15:34 |
| kirkland | So I merged the LTP package for Hardy, which has been orphaned by Debian. A couple of Debian guys responded to a post of mine, asking if I would be willing/interested in taking over maintenance of the Debian. What's involved with Debianizing an Ubuntu package? | 15:39 |
| james_w | kirkland: not a lot if it is already in Debian | 15:40 |
| kirkland | james_w: yup, already in Debian | 15:40 |
| kirkland | james_w: just several years out of sync with mainline | 15:40 |
| james_w | it's just a matter of watching over bug reports, packaging the new upstream releases and finding a sponsor for them. | 15:40 |
| kirkland | james_w: the Ubuntu one is several years more modern | 15:40 |
| james_w | ah, in that case testing the Ubuntu packages on Debian and getting a sponsor to push them back is probably a good start. | 15:41 |
| kirkland | james_w: my question is more about what I need to do to the Ubuntu package to prepare it for upload to the Debian repo | 15:41 |
| james_w | whatever it takes to make it work there :-) | 15:42 |
| james_w | some people would want to see a non-Ubuntu version number to sponsor it. | 15:42 |
| james_w | others would want no reference to Ubuntu in the changelogs, but that's a bit silly. | 15:42 |
| james_w | the other thing would be updating Maintainer: in debian/control to be you. | 15:43 |
| kirkland | james_w: okay, those 2 things are easy | 15:43 |
| james_w | the only other thing would be Debian policy things, but your changelog doesn't hint about anything bad in that area. | 15:45 |
| kirkland | james_w: right, okay | 15:45 |
| bobbo | dholbach: ping | 16:03 |
| lukehasnoname | pong | 16:04 |
| dholbach | bobbo: pong - about to leave in a bit though | 16:04 |
| bobbo | dholbach: it'll be quick :) | 16:04 |
| bobbo | dholbach: in Bug #195196, when i upload the fixed version should i upload a debdiff against the old Ubuntu version or the new diff.gz? | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 195196 in graphmonkey "graphmonkey: Upgrade to new upstream release (1.7)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195196 | 16:04 |
| dholbach | bobbo: the .diff.gz should be enough | 16:05 |
| bobbo | dholbach: ok thanks :) | 16:05 |
| dholbach | rock on | 16:05 |
| herzi | dholbach: ping | 16:10 |
| dholbach | herzi: pong | 16:11 |
| herzi | dholbach: any chance to call you on the phone for ~20mins? | 16:11 |
| lukehasnoname | Bug #205815 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 205815 in monodevelop "Monodevelop in hardy doesn't install gmcs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205815 | 16:15 |
| lukehasnoname | If someone could fix that | 16:20 |
| lukehasnoname | or tell me how to >_> | 16:20 |
| devfil | lukehasnoname: mono-gmcs is reccomended | 16:24 |
| lukehasnoname | I see that. Do recommended packages get isntalled by default? | 16:24 |
| slangasek | Laney: I have no attachments to the pdns merge, you're welcome to it | 16:24 |
| lukehasnoname | Because the compiler is rather necessary | 16:24 |
| devfil | lukehasnoname: ok, I will fix the bug | 16:25 |
| lukehasnoname | devfil: I appreciate it. Also, I just discovered how you right click in Synaptic to see recommended/suggested packages | 16:27 |
| devfil | lukehasnoname: I can use debconf to ask if user want to install gmcs or not, I think this is the best think to do | 16:28 |
| lukehasnoname | Eh, I suppose that does maximize user control. I personally can't see why someone would want the IDE without the *only* compiler for the language. | 16:29 |
| lukehasnoname | C# in this case | 16:29 |
| devfil | lukehasnoname: you're right | 16:30 |
| === tuxmania1 is now known as tuxmaniac | ||
| lukehasnoname | Don't quit on me, roak | 16:34 |
| RoAkSoAx | ? | 16:34 |
| lukehasnoname | RoAkSoAx quit ("Leaving") | 16:36 |
| RoAkSoAx | lukehasnoname, closed by mistake my xchat app :P | 16:37 |
| lukehasnoname | ah | 16:38 |
| jpds | lukehasnoname: has to show off his new cloak | 16:39 |
| jpds | ;-) | 16:39 |
| RoAkSoAx | jpds, hahaha lol :P didn't recognize you with that nickname :P | 16:39 |
| jpds | RoAkSoAx: heh. | 16:40 |
| RoAkSoAx | xD | 16:40 |
| lukehasnoname | xchat, hmmm | 16:40 |
| lukehasnoname | I use pidgin on my linux machine, and mibbit.com on my work machine | 16:41 |
| kirkland | can someone refresh the REVU uploaders keyring ? | 16:44 |
| jpds | kirkland: one moment please | 16:45 |
| jpds | kirkland: Done. | 16:46 |
| kirkland | jpds: gracias! | 16:46 |
| jpds | kirkland: De nada. | 16:47 |
| emgent | heya | 16:49 |
| === effie is now known as effie_jayx | ||
| devfil | lukehasnoname: I added a debdiff to the bug | 16:56 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 16:59 |
| Iulian | Hello bddebian. | 16:59 |
| sistpoty|work | hi bddebian | 16:59 |
| bddebian | Hi Iulian, sistpoty|work | 17:00 |
| kirkland | who owns http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/index.py ? | 17:11 |
| kirkland | very minor feature request for http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/lostpw.py | 17:11 |
| kirkland | gpg -d <<EOT ; echo | 17:11 |
| kirkland | ..... | 17:11 |
| kirkland | could use an EOT at the end of that page | 17:12 |
| jpds | kirkland: best ask RainCT about changes | 17:12 |
| kirkland | such that the copy and paste works completely | 17:12 |
| kirkland | RainCT: ^^^ | 17:12 |
| kirkland | otherwise, it's a kickass lost-password process ;-) | 17:12 |
| jpds | kirkland: Yep, I wish other sites did exactly the same | 17:13 |
| * RainCT reads the log | 17:13 | |
| jpds | however they don't ask for keys. | 17:13 |
| kirkland | jpds: true. for the gpg-savvy among us, there are directories like pgp.mit.edu | 17:14 |
| DRebellion | I am making a new package for intrepid, which depends on libqt4-dev version 4.4. However, the intrepid package is only 4.3.4. Not sure where to go from here, any pointers? | 17:14 |
| RainCT | kirkland: true.. thanks for the notice :) | 17:14 |
| kirkland | RainCT: you bet, nice job. | 17:14 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ubuntu-virt | 17:15 |
| kirkland | soren: also, you might have a look at my REVU for the ubuntu-virt-* metapackages: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ubuntu-virt | 17:15 |
| === cprov is now known as cprov-out | ||
| RainCT | kirkland: done | 17:22 |
| RainCT | sistpoty|work, siretart: shout if you don't like the change :P | 17:22 |
| kirkland | RainCT: cool, thanks | 17:22 |
| RainCT | (^ those are the real REVU devs, btw; I joined the team recently) | 17:24 |
| mok0 | ScottK: hello | 17:24 |
| * sistpoty|work hides | 17:25 | |
| sistpoty|work | thanks RainCT :) | 17:25 |
| DRebellion | Does anyone know of anywhere I could get some information about when/if it will be upgraded? | 17:25 |
| RainCT | heh, sure thing :) | 17:26 |
| Amaranth | DRebellion: Try asking in #kubuntu-devel | 17:26 |
| DRebellion | Amaranth, ok, will do. | 17:26 |
| siretart | RainCT: sounds good, go ahead! | 17:27 |
| jpds | siretart: (I think he has done it) ;) | 17:28 |
| siretart | great | 17:30 |
| yannick | Hi, is there someone willing to help me to build ekiga SVN on lpia arch? -> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1977524&group_id=204472&atid=989748 packs here: https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive | 17:41 |
| ubottu | Sourceforge bug 1977524 "PTLIB fails to buid in lpia arch" [Pri: 5,Open] | 17:41 |
| * sistpoty|work heads home | 17:55 | |
| sistpoty|work | cya | 17:55 |
| lukehasnoname | does packages.ubuntu.com get updated automatically? | 18:04 |
| lukehasnoname | or is it a static page? | 18:04 |
| stdin | lukehasnoname: I can't imagine someone sitting there and updating all the pages manually, so I'd say it's reads some sort of database that get's updated at intervals | 18:07 |
| RainCT | lukehasnoname: I think it's static but it's being automatically updated periodicallu | 18:07 |
| mok0 | On the websites, python-numeric and python-numarray both state to be superseded by NumPy. Is it Ubuntu policy to allow the deprecated modules as (possible) replacements for Numpy?? | 18:07 |
| RainCT | (but I don't really know so don't trust me too much) | 18:07 |
| Zelut | I'm currently building a package with CDBS and I have a app.install and app.docs. | 18:08 |
| Zelut | if I want to add two scripts to /etc/acpi/{battery.d,ac.d} should those be added to app.install? | 18:08 |
| RainCT | Zelut: yes | 18:08 |
| Zelut | RainCT: can you point me to anything regarding app.*? ie; what other app. options are there? | 18:09 |
| pochu | look at dh_* manpages | 18:10 |
| pochu | e.g. dh_install, dh_installdocs... | 18:10 |
| RainCT | Zelut: app.manpages for instance | 18:10 |
| Zelut | I think that is the last thing I need to complete my package, is man pages.. | 18:10 |
| RainCT | Zelut: (and for other ones do what pochu just said.. but iirc there aren't many more) | 18:11 |
| Zelut | RainCT: does app.manpages use the same format as app.docs? as in just list the files, not the destinations? | 18:11 |
| RainCT | Zelut: yes | 18:11 |
| RainCT | Zelut: btw, if the source does only produce one binary package you don't need the app. prefix | 18:11 |
| Zelut | ok, I guess I need to finish building the man page and I may have a package for submission for Intrepid | 18:11 |
| lukehasnoname | rainct thanks | 18:12 |
| RainCT | lukehasnoname: no, thank *you* for your feedback :) | 18:14 |
| Zelut | on a somewhat related note to the /etc/acpi/ question. Does anyone know the order of upstart/rc.d vs /etc/acpi, etc? | 18:14 |
| Zelut | mainly I want to make sure the init script created by the package will not run after the acpi events, ya know | 18:18 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: and I'm not sure you need the uploaders field in the control file. | 18:26 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay | 18:26 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: leave it out entirely? | 18:27 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I was following a couple of other metapackages i found | 18:27 |
| nxvl | kirkland: http://www.googlubuntu.com/ | 18:27 |
| nxvl | kirkland: is that almost like the search engine you wrote? | 18:27 |
| kirkland | nxvl: yeah, looks similar | 18:27 |
| nxvl | kirkland: (btw, you have a lot of picture to upload) | 18:27 |
| kirkland | nxvl: you still in Paris? | 18:27 |
| nxvl | nop | 18:27 |
| nxvl | i'm back in Prague | 18:28 |
| kirkland | nxvl: oh, dude, please please please tell me you picked up my camer? | 18:28 |
| nxvl | camera? | 18:28 |
| kirkland | nxvl: shite | 18:28 |
| nxvl | you lost it? | 18:28 |
| nxvl | if you want i can ask in the hotel | 18:28 |
| kirkland | nxvl: yeah, remember we were hanging out on Friday night around the piano? | 18:28 |
| kirkland | nxvl: please do | 18:28 |
| nxvl | (or you call and i go and pick it up) | 18:28 |
| nxvl | oh | 18:28 |
| nxvl | yes i saw it | 18:28 |
| kirkland | nxvl: red jacket, and black Kodak camera | 18:28 |
| nxvl | and left the bottle of pisco in there for you | 18:28 |
| kirkland | nxvl: :-) | 18:28 |
| Zelut | RainCT: if I'm adding files to /etc/acpi should I add acpi-support as a depends? | 18:29 |
| kirkland | nxvl: anyway, please, please ask at the hotel for it | 18:29 |
| nxvl | i thought you will be back to pick your stuff | 18:29 |
| nxvl | ok | 18:29 |
| nxvl | i will try to go there | 18:29 |
| nxvl | or al least call | 18:29 |
| kirkland | nxvl: many, many thanks. | 18:29 |
| kirkland | nxvl: i'm trying to find an email address for a manager there, no luck yet | 18:29 |
| kirkland | nxvl: I asked on checkout, but i didn't get much help, it was really busy | 18:29 |
| nxvl | kirkland: http://towers.corinthia.cz/hotel/en/contacts/ | 18:30 |
| kirkland | nxvl: wow, how did you find that? | 18:30 |
| kirkland | :-) | 18:30 |
| nxvl | kirkland: go to the web page, and click in "contacts" in the bottom of the page | 18:31 |
| kirkland | nxvl: jeez, i swear i looked for that... anyway | 18:31 |
| nxvl | heh | 18:31 |
| kirkland | nxvl: yeah, that search engine is very similar | 18:31 |
| kirkland | nxvl: i'll note that it does support the filters/refinements like mine does | 18:31 |
| nxvl | when you are desesperate you never find whet you look for | 18:31 |
| kirkland | nxvl: yeah, i'm pretty desperate about getting my pictures off of that camera | 18:32 |
| kirkland | nxvl: i'm even willing to forgo the camera at this point, if i can at least get the pictures off of it | 18:32 |
| RainCT | Zelut: possibly, but I don't really know | 18:32 |
| nxvl | my flight leaves tomorrow at 2:40, so i will try to at least call | 18:33 |
| nxvl | kirkland: if you have news send me an email if i'm not here | 18:33 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| kirkland | nxvl: thanks, i'm emailing them now | 18:33 |
| === boomer` is now known as boomer | ||
| Zelut | is this anything to worry about? (debuild output:) | 18:34 |
| Zelut | dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of '99-origami-ac.sh' will not be represented in diff | 18:34 |
| Zelut | dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of '99-origami-battery.sh' will not be represented in diff | 18:34 |
| nxvl | btw | 18:34 |
| nxvl | i saw a photo of me sleeping that day | 18:34 |
| nxvl | :@ | 18:34 |
| geser | Zelut: if it's important that those files are executable make sure they get their x bit back in debian/rules | 18:35 |
| kirkland | nxvl: um, i think we call that "passed out" in english :-) | 18:35 |
| Zelut | geser: I'm using CDBS so all I have in my rules is filename destination/directory .. | 18:36 |
| Zelut | geser: it does not complain about the other files that are being put in place in usr/bin.. | 18:37 |
| geser | then you can probably ignore it | 18:38 |
| nxvl | kirkland: i was just sleeping there because i offer my bed to some guy because i was leaving at 3 am | 18:38 |
| Zelut | can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong to get this error in uploading to PPA? | 18:46 |
| Zelut | MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive | 18:46 |
| Zelut | this is a -0ubuntu2 updated package | 18:46 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: so should I fix those two things and upload an update to REVU? | 18:47 |
| geser | Zelut: did you used an different .orig.tar.gz than for -0ubuntu1? | 18:47 |
| Zelut | geser: I didn't think so, but I'm going to go back and check.. | 18:48 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: any other feedback while I'm making changes? | 18:48 |
| Zelut | geser: that must have been it. accepted now. | 18:52 |
| zul | kirkland: can we write a driver that sends a small shock through the internet maybe even an RFC | 19:02 |
| === cprov-out is now known as cprov | ||
| kirkland | zul: sounds intriguing! | 19:10 |
| sebner | mok0: ehm. how can I attach icon at the wikipage? | 19:31 |
| bobbo | is there any documentation on Watch files? I cant find any on the wiki | 19:54 |
| slytherin | bobbo: which wiki? | 19:55 |
| thekorn | bobbo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#head-50e9a6c8dba7adaa78d9903fa13d4513f32e290c | 19:56 |
| Iulian | bobbo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/DebianWatch | 19:56 |
| bobbo | slytherin: was talking about the Ubuntu Wiki, but im obviously blind :D | 19:56 |
| bobbo | thanks thekorn Iulian LD | 19:56 |
| mok0 | sebner: In that little pull-down menu | 19:56 |
| Iulian | bobbo: It's the same page. :) | 19:57 |
| slytherin | bobbo: in case you don't find the page matching to search term you should do full text search | 19:57 |
| hoahn | .. | 19:57 |
| Iulian | Or google it should be good as well. | 19:57 |
| norsetto | bobbo: re watch files for sf.net, pls. have a look at the uscan man page ;-) | 19:57 |
| norsetto | bobbo: if you need help, let me know | 19:59 |
| bobbo | norsetto: thanks a lot :) | 19:59 |
| norsetto | bobbo: no, thanks to you for your help | 19:59 |
| mok0 | sebner, pull down menu at the top called "More Actions:" | 20:00 |
| emgent | norsetto: o/ | 20:02 |
| norsetto | emgent: X/ | 20:02 |
| emgent | woow, new style? | 20:03 |
| norsetto | somebody ought to tell Canonical employees to not use xls attachments .... | 20:03 |
| emgent | hahhaha | 20:04 |
| sebner | mok0: thx | 20:05 |
| sebner | norsetto: wth? | 20:05 |
| === DrKranz is now known as DktrKranz | ||
| kirkland | kees: hey, so I installed Debian unstable in a KVM, and dgot the Ubuntu ltp sources | 20:17 |
| kirkland | kees: I fixed up the debian/changelog, bumping up the version, and noting the migration from Ubuntu to Debian | 20:17 |
| kirkland | kees: and I fixed the control file, setting the maintainer to myself (as the previous maintainer is AWOL) | 20:18 |
| kirkland | kees: I'm testing a build in the Debian KVM now | 20:18 |
| kirkland | kees: and I'll follow that up with a test run | 20:19 |
| kirkland | kees: once those two are a-okay, I assume I need to build a signed source package and put them somewhere that the debian guys can get them? | 20:20 |
| slytherin | kirkland: what are you trying to do exactly? | 20:21 |
| kirkland | slytherin: the ltp package in Debian has been orphaned | 20:21 |
| kirkland | slytherin: i merged Ubuntu's ltp package up to semi-current upstream release for Hardy | 20:21 |
| slytherin | kirkland: so you are trying to to get Ubuntu's package in Debian? | 20:22 |
| kirkland | slytherin: well, it's more like i'm offering to take over maintainership of the Debian package | 20:22 |
| slytherin | kirkland: Ok. | 20:22 |
| kirkland | slytherin: and starting that out by updating the Debian unstable ltp package to something more modern, based on the work i already did for the ubuntu package | 20:23 |
| kirkland | slytherin: which is 2+ years newer than the newest debian ltp package | 20:23 |
| slytherin | hmm | 20:24 |
| kirkland | slytherin: i got a pair of emails from Debian saying "This package has been orphaned. If you still want to collaborate, please | 20:24 |
| kirkland | prepare an upload for Debian and take over the package's maintenance. | 20:24 |
| kirkland | " | 20:24 |
| slytherin | kirkland: Ok. I was just confused what were you trying to do. By the way you can simply create a pbuilder chroot for debian instead of installing Debian in kvm | 20:26 |
| kirkland | slytherin: right, i keep around a nice selection of interesting KVM's anyway ;-) | 20:26 |
| kees | kirkland: an orig+dsc+diff should be fine. | 20:28 |
| kees | kirkland: you'll also want to toss the Ubuntu changes, and make sure it's "Debian only" changelog items. | 20:29 |
| kees | kirkland: (the idea being to get a "clean" version into Debian) | 20:29 |
| kirkland | kees: hmm, i looked at the changelog and I figured that Debian would want all of the fixes that you and i added in the hardy release cycle | 20:32 |
| kirkland | kees: those changes are of value to debian-and-debian-derivatives, IMHO | 20:32 |
| kees | kirkland: right, I don't mean remove the details, I mean swap things around so there isn't an Ubuntu revision listed. Just roll everything up into a new single debian changelog | 20:37 |
| kees | *changelog entry | 20:37 |
| kirkland | kees: ah, gotcha | 20:37 |
| kirkland | kees: okay, i just made one new one at the top saying that | 20:37 |
| kirkland | kees: i can collapse the top 3 then into one | 20:37 |
| RainCT | OT, does someone know of an easier way to communicate with a process than dbus? | 20:43 |
| geser | RainCT: what kind of communication? would fifos work for your purpose? | 20:45 |
| RainCT | sending strings to it | 20:46 |
| joaopinto | use a regular UNIX IPC mechanisms | 20:46 |
| joaopinto | named pipes, sockets, message queues... | 20:47 |
| RainCT | ok, I'm reading about that IPC things. thanks | 20:48 |
| === nenolod is now known as happinessturtle | ||
| kirkland | kees: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ltp.debian/ | 21:01 |
| kirkland | kees: changelog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ltp.debian/ltp-20080229/debian/changelog | 21:01 |
| mok0 | sebner: I don't see your icons... | 21:02 |
| kees | kirkland: changelog is missing the -2.1 upload | 21:03 |
| kees | kirkland: you can also add "New upstream release (Closes: #420148)." to the changelog | 21:04 |
| sebner | mok0: I let it resize first .. | 21:04 |
| kirkland | kees: -2.1 upload? | 21:05 |
| kees | and "take over maintainership (was orphaned) (Closes: #470091)" | 21:05 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| kirkland | kees: good point on the (Closes: #xxx) | 21:05 |
| kees | kirkland: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/ltp/current/changelog | 21:05 |
| kees | 2.1 NMU on May 9th | 21:05 |
| nxvl | kees: did you received your signeg key by mail? | 21:06 |
| kees | nxvl: haven't seen anything, no | 21:06 |
| nxvl | ok | 21:07 |
| nxvl | i will upload it directly i need to tune my laptop :S | 21:07 |
| nxvl | uploaded | 21:08 |
| nxvl | kees: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x1FFF4BA917063E6D | 21:08 |
| kees | nxvl: cool | 21:08 |
| kirkland | kees: oh, crap, i neglected that entirely | 21:09 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: do you know what happened to rospozoppo? | 21:09 |
| DktrKranz | norsetto, he's busy with university, I guess. Long time no see him :( | 21:10 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: indeed, too bad he is not interested in Ubuntu anymore | 21:10 |
| DktrKranz | do you miss his .desktop changes? :) | 21:11 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: not really, they are all coming back as merges now ... | 21:13 |
| DktrKranz | heh, need a hand to report back to debian/upstream? | 21:13 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: neah, they are good to keep for new contributors | 21:14 |
| norsetto | hint hint | 21:14 |
| DktrKranz | new contributors, please ping norsetto to receive sponsorship for such merges, he has lot of experience ;) | 21:16 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: I'll be happy to sponsor those ONLY if they are reported back to Debian | 21:16 |
| kirkland | kees: whats the best recommended method to wedge those -2.1 changes in? | 21:17 |
| kirkland | kees: merge first? | 21:17 |
| mok0 | norsetto, are you a DD? | 21:17 |
| DktrKranz | norsetto, IIRC, I asked him (and some who contributed in a similar way) to do the same, it's a shame to diverge from "mama" for that | 21:18 |
| norsetto | mok0: a destroyer? No I'm simply a TB (tug boat) | 21:18 |
| mok0 | norsetto: .-P | 21:18 |
| mok0 | norsetto: I take that as a "no" :-) | 21:18 |
| kirkland | kees: those -2.1 changes are against 20060918 | 21:18 |
| kirkland | kees: the current package I'm working on is 20080229 | 21:19 |
| kees | kirkland: sure -- but you'll need to make sure that a) the missing changelog appears in your changelog, b) whatever they fixed is fixed in your package too. :) | 21:19 |
| DktrKranz | Debian Destroyer? | 21:19 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/shusn-no/dd-no.htm | 21:20 |
| * mok0 likes DD-1 :-) | 21:22 | |
| mrevell | nixternal: hey, got a moment? | 21:22 |
| DktrKranz | norsetto, 404 | 21:23 |
| mok0 | Yeah that server is s..l..o..w! | 21:23 |
| mok0 | It got motu'd | 21:23 |
| norsetto | mok0, DktrKranz: us navy stuff ;-) | 21:24 |
| DktrKranz | military secrets? | 21:24 |
| mok0 | norsetto: ah, you mean they can't afford a decent server :-) | 21:24 |
| DktrKranz | we are allies, c'mon guys... let me see! | 21:24 |
| norsetto | mok0: not after scottk left them | 21:24 |
| mok0 | norsetto: yeah all the good stuff is probably in his basement | 21:26 |
| DktrKranz | any core-dev sponsors around? | 21:26 |
| norsetto | mok0: :-) | 21:27 |
| mok0 | DktrKranz: try -devel | 21:28 |
| DktrKranz | low traffic in there :) | 21:28 |
| mok0 | DktrKranz: there you are. core-dev's are 9-5 people :-) | 21:29 |
| ajmitch | and it's not yet 9am here :) | 21:30 |
| DktrKranz | heh | 21:30 |
| norsetto | mok0: with a looong midday pause | 21:30 |
| * DktrKranz will apply for core-dev, but before... need to finish U.S. White House 2008 campaign successfully | 21:31 | |
| DktrKranz | vote for me, please! | 21:32 |
| mok0 | DktrKranz: you mean you're running for President? | 21:32 |
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| DktrKranz | mok0, I'm not running, I'll kidnap candidates and I'll become the One without too much trouble | 21:32 |
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| mok0 | *pling* lamps light up at the NSA computer center | 21:33 |
| DktrKranz | I own NSA, we have root privileges on their systems, they do large use of Universe repository :) | 21:34 |
| DktrKranz | mostly amule, they have bandwith :P | 21:34 |
| mok0 | DktrKranz: heh heh | 21:34 |
| * mok0 wanders if Obama uses Ubuntu! | 21:35 | |
| DktrKranz | let me see popcon | 21:35 |
| mok0 | we should send him a free CD ;-) | 21:35 |
| norsetto | mok0: don't think so, a good USA president will stand by USA industry monopoly .... | 21:35 |
| DktrKranz | clinton uses it | 21:35 |
| DktrKranz | bill, at least :) | 21:36 |
| DktrKranz | RSM for President! | 21:36 |
| mok0 | RSM? | 21:36 |
| DktrKranz | Stallman | 21:36 |
| smarter | DktrKranz: RMS then | 21:36 |
| DktrKranz | I just switched some letters :) | 21:36 |
| DktrKranz | smarter, exactly :P | 21:37 |
| smarter | ;) | 21:37 |
| mok0 | A man with tresses in his beard still does not have a chance... | 21:37 |
| mok0 | Anyway, RMS doesn't use Ubuntu | 21:38 |
| DktrKranz | which one? hurd? | 21:38 |
| mok0 | I guess | 21:38 |
| mok0 | correction: I guess not. It doesn't work | 21:39 |
| mok0 | :-) | 21:39 |
| mok0 | Actually, he may use Gobuntu | 21:39 |
| pwnguin | it works fine as long as you dont want drivers or filesystems bigger than 2GB ;) | 21:39 |
| pwnguin | i cant see him not using hurd | 21:39 |
| pwnguin | eating dogfood and whatnot | 21:39 |
| pwnguin | besides, gnewsense actually does things | 21:40 |
| mok0 | gnewsense? | 21:40 |
| pwnguin | ... | 21:41 |
| * mok0 googles | 21:41 | |
| bimberi | !gnewsense | 21:42 |
| ubottu | gNewSense is a GNU/Linux distribution based off Ubuntu with the aim of containing only free software. The Website is http://www.gnewsense.org - Support in #gnewsense, NOT #ubuntu | 21:42 |
| mok0 | Ain't that Gobuntu? | 21:42 |
| bimberi | mok0: It pre-dates gobuntu iirc | 21:42 |
| mok0 | At least it's not gnonsense lol | 21:43 |
| bimberi | hehe, a play on 'nuisance' methinks | 21:43 |
| mok0 | hehe | 21:43 |
| ajmitch | hi | 22:17 |
| * ajmitch can finally sit down at the keyboard for more than 2 minutes :) | 22:17 | |
| kirkland | kees: okay, ltp builds now, merged changes from -2.1 release | 22:17 |
| kirkland | kees: change log at http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ltp.debian/ltp-20080229/debian/changelog | 22:17 |
| kees | kirkland: \o/ | 22:17 |
| kirkland | kees: everything here http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ltp.debian/ | 22:17 |
| kirkland | kees: so reading mentors.debian, it looks like something similar to our REVU | 22:18 |
| kees | kirkland: cool, once you've got it up on mentors, let me know, and I can poke at it with my DD hat on. Yeah, it's very similar. | 22:18 |
| kirkland | kees: it looks to be more for new packages, rather than an updated package | 22:18 |
| kees | kirkland: it's for updates too | 22:18 |
| kirkland | kees: but i'll push it anyway | 22:18 |
| kirkland | kees: okay | 22:18 |
| kirkland | kees: i have an account now | 22:18 |
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| kirkland | kees: http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/maintainer-packages?action=details;package=ltp | 22:44 |
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| kirkland | slangasek: i created lp:~kirkland/grub/grub.32216, applied my patch, committed locally, but the bzr push won't take | 22:45 |
| kirkland | bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() | 22:46 |
| kirkland | slangasek: let me try the bzr+ssh method.... | 22:46 |
| slangasek | kirkland: you'll have to switch it to bzr+ssh first before you can push, yes | 22:46 |
| kirkland | slangasek: ah, sorry | 22:46 |
| kirkland | the new lp: syntax in launchpad is not very copy-and-paste friendly :-( | 22:47 |
| kirkland | for pushing anyway | 22:48 |
| james_w | kirkland: run "bzr lp-login" and it should all work | 22:49 |
| kirkland | james_w: No Launchpad user ID configured. | 22:50 |
| kirkland | james_w: something missing in .bazaar/bazaar.conf ? | 22:50 |
| james_w | kirkland: "bzr lp-login kirkland" sorry | 22:51 |
| james_w | or rather your real user id. | 22:51 |
| kirkland | james_w: thanks | 22:51 |
| james_w | kirkland: bzr 1.4 (intrepid has 1.5) tries to warn you about this. | 22:51 |
| kirkland | james_w: thanks | 22:51 |
| * slangasek glares at his computer for suddenly becoming reluctant to spawn new processes | 22:51 | |
| a|wen | slangasek: hit pid_max? ;) | 22:54 |
| kirkland | slangasek: sorry, just realized I switched channels on you (again) .... lp:~kirkland/grub/grub.32216 | 22:57 |
| slangasek | a|wen: a little hard to say | 23:02 |
| slangasek | responsiveness of existing processes is also far below what it seems it ought to be given the load average | 23:03 |
| * ajmitch must get some flash-blocking addon for firefox, this site is killing my laptop | 23:03 | |
| kirkland | slangasek: I found a "propose for merging" link, so I did that ;-) | 23:03 |
| a|wen | slangasek: you could check if your number of processes gets close to 32K, then it could be it ... but must admit, that it is a rare case :) | 23:05 |
| slangasek | kirkland: sounds good :) | 23:09 |
| slangasek | a|wen: 178 processes | 23:14 |
| a|wen | slangasek: that definately leaves some room to the 32K ... i think you're right about the load average | 23:15 |
| LaserJock | siretart: still up? | 23:23 |
| slangasek | a|wen: and I meant that it was a little hard to say because it's hard to check the process count when shells are going dead on me left and right :P | 23:24 |
| * a|wen wonders what slangasek does to run his box that hard :P | 23:25 | |
| a|wen | night people | 23:34 |
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