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sabhainstorage group directories .. create in filesystem first, or from mythtv-setup?03:10
foxbuntu_vmsabhain, you need to create them and give the correct permissions first mythtv-setup wont create them04:16
sabhainfoxbuntu_vm .. thanks for the input.  Sort of got there by trial and error .. seems to work pretty well.  It took me a bit to recognize the difference between "Storage Groups" and "Storage Directories" .. very cool that these can be separate things.04:18
sabhainnow if I can figure out the purpose of the "Watch List" .. I'll be cooking with gas04:19
hadsThe watch list lists program that haven't been marked as watched basicaly.04:24
hadsThere are a few more advanced algorithims that it uses to display what's in there but that's the guts of it.04:25
sabhainThat sounds interesting .. just found the wiki page on the watch list .. I think it's a pretty good idea.  I'll have to have the users pay attention to it and see how it goes.04:26
hadsIt will show the oldest show that isn't marked as watched in a series for example.04:28
sabhainthe odd thing here is that it doesn't mark a show as having been watched on my system.  Wonder why that would be?04:31
sabhainis it supposed to auto mark them?  or is it only a manual setting?04:32
hadsWhen you are on the recording press the right arrow and a menu will popup. Then you can choose "Mark as watched"04:32
hadsYou can set it to do so automatically I believe, we don't as different people may watch things at different times.04:33
sabhainwhat's the difference between "recording group" and "playback group"?04:39
sabhaingot it .. nm04:45
sabhainthis thing is unbelievable .. the level of control / customization it affords you04:46
=== otwin_ is now known as otwin
sabhainis there a setting to specify which recording group is highlighted when going to view recordings?05:07
sabhainseems to be set to "all Programs" by default .. and I wonder if you can change to "default" or 'new group' ??05:08
sabhainI don't want to use a filter, just want it to start at default group upon loading05:08
Brian23hello06:35
Brian23any online at the moment?06:36
grndslmmaybe06:37
Brian23just need some help plz?06:37
grndslmdunno if i can help, but what's your question?  nobody can answer it if you don't ask!  =^)06:37
Brian23i need help setting up my Twinhan remote on Mythbuntu06:37
grndslmoh no... remotes aren't for me06:37
grndslmi have a wireless keyboard06:37
Brian23could u help me plz06:37
grndslmnever even wanted to try06:38
grndslmsorry06:38
Brian23thats ok06:38
Brian23do u know of any direct compatable ones06:39
Brian23or is it possible to use a mouse?06:39
grndslmyea, you can use a mouse... i know that06:39
Brian23in the menu?06:40
Brian23i cant see it on the frontend06:40
Brian23only wheb i cofig stuff06:40
grndslmmythfrontend's definitely designed for a keyboard... but if you use the keyboard, there is an option to enable mouse cursor06:40
Brian23would ohok06:41
grndslmdunno how much the mouse can do -vs- a remote... but the option's there06:41
Brian23do u know of any compatable remotes with it?06:41
grndslmpretty sure any remotes you'd have to config somehow with lirc... but again, dunno... i heard of many problems with lirc, so i bought an IR keyboard/mouse combo a couple years ago for the cheap06:42
grndslmyou can definitely enable the mouse cursor on the second page or so of the "appearance" menu06:43
Brian23is it hard to setup a bluetooth mouse on it06:44
grndslmshouldn't be harder than any other mouse... haven't really messed with bluetooth other than DUN with my phone, and that was pretty difficult06:44
Brian23ok06:45
grndslmseems like mouse works for everything in the menu except for the last step to actually clicking on a specific, recorded show...06:45
grndslmit just doesn't work for that06:45
grndslmi wish mouse support were better as an opiton... and they'd get away from mysql (always have problems with it myself), but the devs have their own thoughts on what's right & wrong06:46
tgm4883_laptopgrndslm, note that feature requests can be made at blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu07:06
grndslmit wouldn't be worth it... it'd never happen.  the devs are prolly right that mysql is the best choice, and (myth)ubuntu are making the setup easier and easier all the time07:08
grndslmi don't really care about the mouse thing, but it could be done where clicking on certain edges/corners have different effects07:09
Tuv0kbug #21643107:20
Tuv0khttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/21643107:21
Tuv0kcan't watach anything with mythtv fading to black07:21
Tuv0kthe screensaver daemon is stoppped07:21
Tuv0kthe monitor power save off07:21
Tuv0kI don't understand? Why myht still fading to black?07:22
Tuv0kIf a fix was released, why am I still having issues?07:23
foxbuntu_vmTuv0k, which ss daemon did you kill?07:26
Tuv0kthe ibe that cones with ubuntu07:26
Tuv0kxscreensaver07:26
Tuv0kr the screensaver from system prefernces07:27
Tuv0khow many are there?07:27
foxbuntu_vmTuv0k, does it fade to black and then the remote wont wake it or just has to be woke?07:27
foxbuntu_vm207:27
Tuv0kfade to black and I have to move the mouse07:27
Tuv0kthe remote won' restore video07:27
Tuv0k2?07:28
foxbuntu_vmyea...as I recall there is a second one...I fougt the exact same thing for along time07:28
foxbuntu_vmI am racking my brain trying to recall what it was07:29
Tuv0khow can I stp this behavior?07:29
foxbuntu_vmTuv0k, thats what I am trying to remember, I dont have access to my machine atm so I cant look it up07:30
Tuv0kis it a screensaver issue?07:30
Tuv0kdoes myth have its own ss?07:30
Tuv0kI'd hope not07:30
foxbuntu_vmactually you said the power save on the monitor was off but did you disable DPMS?07:30
Tuv0kno07:33
Tuv0kI'm no touching dpms07:33
foxbuntu_vmdpms is your issue07:33
Tuv0knone of this was an issue pre-hardy07:33
foxbuntu_vmI had the same issue in edgy07:34
Tuv0kI never had such an issue07:34
Tuv0kunless gutsy is the only immune version07:34
foxbuntu_vmI bet the reason it just happened in hardy was the new video drivers added the DPMS option to your x-org07:34
foxbuntu_vmTuv0k, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:35
foxbuntu_vmin the monitor section, there is a line that will be something about DPMS07:36
foxbuntu_vmcomment it out, restart x and try it out07:36
=== Penfold_ is now known as Penfold
Stemming78buiding another Mythbox and need to now how to get if I can setup a box to receive upper cabe channes without a set top box.07:54
Stemming78Woud the HD5500 tuner card do this for me07:55
foxbuntu_vmStemming78, you in the US?07:55
Stemming78yes07:55
foxbuntu_vmcant be done07:55
Stemming78Trying to get 100 and up channes07:55
foxbuntu_vmyeah, you hve to hve the cable co's box to tune those07:56
Stemming78so need to have a settop box for each tuner card07:56
foxbuntu_vmexactly07:56
Stemming78any coming change to this in the future07:56
foxbuntu_vmnot likely07:57
foxbuntu_vmits a federal FCC issue07:57
Stemming78another question, if I am wanting to get HD....  Best choice is the HD Homerun07:58
foxbuntu_vmatm, yes07:58
Stemming78thans for the assistance.....  Now I can buid correcty07:58
foxbuntu_vmthere is a new PVR HD tuner coming but the support level nd such is unknown, it might be awhile before it can be used07:58
foxbuntu_vmStemming78, hve you not built a machine yet?07:59
Stemming78how about the Hauppauge HVR-160007:59
foxbuntu_vmI mean are you going to buy new hardware?07:59
foxbuntu_vmStemming78, that are allot of issues with that card07:59
Stemming78have two atm  buiding setup for my parents.....  thining two boxes08:00
foxbuntu_vmits not worth the $$ or pain08:00
Stemming78prefer interna cards.... but can hide it I suppose.....  Must say the pricing is dead on....08:00
foxbuntu_vmStemming78, only reason I say anything is that I own a business selling prebuilt ready to use machines, and I am only a few weeks away from offering them from my website08:00
foxbuntu_vmI personally use an HDHR08:01
foxbuntu_vmI just park it behind the STB's in my entertainment center08:01
Stemming78thans...  there is a need for this....  good business venture....08:01
foxbuntu_vmyeah, its been a long time in the works08:02
Stemming78Father owns an accounting firm and is getting  PCs for free...  Ony need tuner card and video cards....08:02
foxbuntu_vmah08:02
Stemming78cheap08:02
foxbuntu_vmwell be careful with HD though, its very CPU intensive08:03
Stemming78With the HD HR  shoud tae the oad off08:03
foxbuntu_vmnope08:03
foxbuntu_vmthe HDHR just streams to the backend08:03
Stemming78sorry "l" is not woring08:04
Stemming78boys fried a row of eys on my pricy eyboard08:04
foxbuntu_vmthats ok... my "a" hasnt been working well for me either :)08:04
Stemming78sucs08:04
foxbuntu_vmindeed08:04
foxbuntu_vmif your going to be doing HD I would say to stay north of a 3600+ X2 X86_6408:05
foxbuntu_vmor equiv intel08:05
Stemming78As for the HD HR ....  need to get another NIC card to get it functiona....  correct as it wi11 be hardwired system08:05
Stemming78any recommendations08:06
foxbuntu_vmno08:06
foxbuntu_vmthe HDHR just wires to your home network08:06
Stemming78uses Cat4508:06
foxbuntu_vmMythbuntu has the tools preloaded to auto discover the HDHR on your network08:06
Stemming78connection to PC is08:06
Stemming78that was a question08:07
foxbuntu_vmwhat?08:07
foxbuntu_vmoh does it use cat5?08:07
foxbuntu_vmyes08:07
Stemming78reword  what type of connection is used to attach to pc08:07
Stemming78very good       cat 508:07
foxbuntu_vmthe HDHR connects to your home network just like any PC08:07
foxbuntu_vmand then Mythbuntu will discover it08:08
Stemming78So I coud connect it to the router and not the PC08:08
foxbuntu_vmyou should not connect it to the PC08:08
Stemming78Perfect08:08
Stemming78Then it is hidden08:08
Stemming78Thans for the assistance ....  a11 questions answered08:09
foxbuntu_vmcool...gl Stemming7808:09
foxbuntu_vmif you need parts or such in the future check out my site: www.foxmediasystems.com08:09
foxbuntu_vmI will be selling all the goodies including prebuilt systems08:10
Stemming78Wanted to et you now the new version of Mythbuntu is woring fauess for me....  had a probem with 7.10 and had to reboot each time I deeted a recording...  Probem was resoved with the new 8.04 reease....  great wor08:11
Stemming78Thans wi11 save the ur108:11
foxbuntu_vmthanks08:11
foxbuntu_vmits good to see happy users08:11
Stemming78good uc with the venture....  Thin it wi be a succcess... especiay if you preoad Mythbuntu on it....  Might be good for the noobs...  I probaby woud have been VERY interested when U started08:12
Stemming78*I started....  STRUGGED08:13
Stemming78thans again off to bed....08:13
foxbuntu_vmthats what I am going for, bringing new users into the fold08:13
foxbuntu_vmnp, later Stemming7808:13
Stemming78nice website.....  adios08:14
foxbuntu_vmthanks!08:14
Stemming78Can someone recommend a Wire1ess Card (PCI) for me...  Wire1ess G possib1e Draft N capabi1ities16:02
Stemming78Getting ready to purchase equipment for a new Mythbox16:03
sabhainmaking a combo front end / backend?16:08
Stemming781 PC wi11 have frontend and bacend....  2cond PC wi11 have frontend on1y16:21
sabhainarghh .. 7.10 desktop is really driving me nuts.17:00
lagawhat are you using 7.10 then..17:03
* sabhain has it on his office laptop .. it's been stable .. so no hurry to upgrade (beta firefox not good yet) ..17:07
sabhainbut in testing out some dd / optical disc backup stuff for my mythtv setup, I can't do anything with my laptop to help, since 7.10 won't install mencoder, or transcode .. so no k9copy .. ugh17:08
jphillipddrescue works well17:16
sabhaincommand line backup?17:36
sabhaintrying that now .. this would be EXACTLY what I've been fighting with .. looking to command line this process and do it via ssh on the core, rather than fighting the FE17:46
jphillipyep17:47
jphillipit can be a little slower since it will try to salvage bad data, but it gets the job done17:47
jphillipand works wonders on copy protected dvds :)17:47
sabhainjphillip is the man ..18:58
connectedmicohi guys.       can anyone help me out ?   what is the diference of the connector   a/v    and   RF19:50
connectedmicoI don't know witch is witch19:58
sabhainRF is usually like Coax .. a/v could be anything, but it is probably RCA (Red & White for audio, Yellow for Video)20:08
tgm4883_laptopsabhain, also known as composite20:10
sabhainright ..20:15
no-oneanyone there ?20:40
connectedmicotnks sab,20:41
connectedmicotnks sabhain20:41
connectedmicodoes anyone know a      Pinnacle PCTV Studio/Rave [card=39,autodetected]20:45
lagajust ask a real question? ;)20:46
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