[03:10] <sabhain> storage group directories .. create in filesystem first, or from mythtv-setup?
[04:16] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, you need to create them and give the correct permissions first mythtv-setup wont create them
[04:18] <sabhain> foxbuntu_vm .. thanks for the input.  Sort of got there by trial and error .. seems to work pretty well.  It took me a bit to recognize the difference between "Storage Groups" and "Storage Directories" .. very cool that these can be separate things.
[04:19] <sabhain> now if I can figure out the purpose of the "Watch List" .. I'll be cooking with gas
[04:24] <hads> The watch list lists program that haven't been marked as watched basicaly.
[04:25] <hads> There are a few more advanced algorithims that it uses to display what's in there but that's the guts of it.
[04:26] <sabhain> That sounds interesting .. just found the wiki page on the watch list .. I think it's a pretty good idea.  I'll have to have the users pay attention to it and see how it goes.
[04:28] <hads> It will show the oldest show that isn't marked as watched in a series for example.
[04:31] <sabhain> the odd thing here is that it doesn't mark a show as having been watched on my system.  Wonder why that would be?
[04:32] <sabhain> is it supposed to auto mark them?  or is it only a manual setting?
[04:32] <hads> When you are on the recording press the right arrow and a menu will popup. Then you can choose "Mark as watched"
[04:33] <hads> You can set it to do so automatically I believe, we don't as different people may watch things at different times.
[04:39] <sabhain> what's the difference between "recording group" and "playback group"?
[04:45] <sabhain> got it .. nm
[04:46] <sabhain> this thing is unbelievable .. the level of control / customization it affords you
[05:07] <sabhain> is there a setting to specify which recording group is highlighted when going to view recordings?
[05:08] <sabhain> seems to be set to "all Programs" by default .. and I wonder if you can change to "default" or 'new group' ??
[05:08] <sabhain> I don't want to use a filter, just want it to start at default group upon loading
[06:35] <Brian23> hello
[06:36] <Brian23> any online at the moment?
[06:37] <grndslm> maybe
[06:37] <Brian23> just need some help plz?
[06:37] <grndslm> dunno if i can help, but what's your question?  nobody can answer it if you don't ask!  =^)
[06:37] <Brian23> i need help setting up my Twinhan remote on Mythbuntu
[06:37] <grndslm> oh no... remotes aren't for me
[06:37] <grndslm> i have a wireless keyboard
[06:37] <Brian23> could u help me plz
[06:38] <grndslm> never even wanted to try
[06:38] <grndslm> sorry
[06:38] <Brian23> thats ok
[06:39] <Brian23> do u know of any direct compatable ones
[06:39] <Brian23> or is it possible to use a mouse?
[06:39] <grndslm> yea, you can use a mouse... i know that
[06:40] <Brian23> in the menu?
[06:40] <Brian23> i cant see it on the frontend
[06:40] <Brian23> only wheb i cofig stuff
[06:40] <grndslm> mythfrontend's definitely designed for a keyboard... but if you use the keyboard, there is an option to enable mouse cursor
[06:41] <Brian23> would ohok
[06:41] <grndslm> dunno how much the mouse can do -vs- a remote... but the option's there
[06:41] <Brian23> do u know of any compatable remotes with it?
[06:42] <grndslm> pretty sure any remotes you'd have to config somehow with lirc... but again, dunno... i heard of many problems with lirc, so i bought an IR keyboard/mouse combo a couple years ago for the cheap
[06:43] <grndslm> you can definitely enable the mouse cursor on the second page or so of the "appearance" menu
[06:44] <Brian23> is it hard to setup a bluetooth mouse on it
[06:44] <grndslm> shouldn't be harder than any other mouse... haven't really messed with bluetooth other than DUN with my phone, and that was pretty difficult
[06:45] <Brian23> ok
[06:45] <grndslm> seems like mouse works for everything in the menu except for the last step to actually clicking on a specific, recorded show...
[06:45] <grndslm> it just doesn't work for that
[06:46] <grndslm> i wish mouse support were better as an opiton... and they'd get away from mysql (always have problems with it myself), but the devs have their own thoughts on what's right & wrong
[07:06] <tgm4883_laptop> grndslm, note that feature requests can be made at blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[07:08] <grndslm> it wouldn't be worth it... it'd never happen.  the devs are prolly right that mysql is the best choice, and (myth)ubuntu are making the setup easier and easier all the time
[07:09] <grndslm> i don't really care about the mouse thing, but it could be done where clicking on certain edges/corners have different effects
[07:20] <Tuv0k> bug #216431
[07:21] <Tuv0k> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/216431
[07:21] <Tuv0k> can't watach anything with mythtv fading to black
[07:21] <Tuv0k> the screensaver daemon is stoppped
[07:21] <Tuv0k> the monitor power save off
[07:22] <Tuv0k> I don't understand? Why myht still fading to black?
[07:23] <Tuv0k> If a fix was released, why am I still having issues?
[07:26] <foxbuntu_vm> Tuv0k, which ss daemon did you kill?
[07:26] <Tuv0k> the ibe that cones with ubuntu
[07:26] <Tuv0k> xscreensaver
[07:27] <Tuv0k> r the screensaver from system prefernces
[07:27] <Tuv0k> how many are there?
[07:27] <foxbuntu_vm> Tuv0k, does it fade to black and then the remote wont wake it or just has to be woke?
[07:27] <foxbuntu_vm> 2
[07:27] <Tuv0k> fade to black and I have to move the mouse
[07:27] <Tuv0k> the remote won' restore video
[07:28] <Tuv0k> 2?
[07:28] <foxbuntu_vm> yea...as I recall there is a second one...I fougt the exact same thing for along time
[07:29] <foxbuntu_vm> I am racking my brain trying to recall what it was
[07:29] <Tuv0k> how can I stp this behavior?
[07:30] <foxbuntu_vm> Tuv0k, thats what I am trying to remember, I dont have access to my machine atm so I cant look it up
[07:30] <Tuv0k> is it a screensaver issue?
[07:30] <Tuv0k> does myth have its own ss?
[07:30] <Tuv0k> I'd hope not
[07:30] <foxbuntu_vm> actually you said the power save on the monitor was off but did you disable DPMS?
[07:33] <Tuv0k> no
[07:33] <Tuv0k> I'm no touching dpms
[07:33] <foxbuntu_vm> dpms is your issue
[07:33] <Tuv0k> none of this was an issue pre-hardy
[07:34] <foxbuntu_vm> I had the same issue in edgy
[07:34] <Tuv0k> I never had such an issue
[07:34] <Tuv0k> unless gutsy is the only immune version
[07:34] <foxbuntu_vm> I bet the reason it just happened in hardy was the new video drivers added the DPMS option to your x-org
[07:35] <foxbuntu_vm> Tuv0k, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:36] <foxbuntu_vm> in the monitor section, there is a line that will be something about DPMS
[07:36] <foxbuntu_vm> comment it out, restart x and try it out
[07:54] <Stemming78> buiding another Mythbox and need to now how to get if I can setup a box to receive upper cabe channes without a set top box.
[07:55] <Stemming78> Woud the HD5500 tuner card do this for me
[07:55] <foxbuntu_vm> Stemming78, you in the US?
[07:55] <Stemming78> yes
[07:55] <foxbuntu_vm> cant be done
[07:55] <Stemming78> Trying to get 100 and up channes
[07:56] <foxbuntu_vm> yeah, you hve to hve the cable co's box to tune those
[07:56] <Stemming78> so need to have a settop box for each tuner card
[07:56] <foxbuntu_vm> exactly
[07:56] <Stemming78> any coming change to this in the future
[07:57] <foxbuntu_vm> not likely
[07:57] <foxbuntu_vm> its a federal FCC issue
[07:58] <Stemming78> another question, if I am wanting to get HD....  Best choice is the HD Homerun
[07:58] <foxbuntu_vm> atm, yes
[07:58] <Stemming78> thans for the assistance.....  Now I can buid correcty
[07:58] <foxbuntu_vm> there is a new PVR HD tuner coming but the support level nd such is unknown, it might be awhile before it can be used
[07:59] <foxbuntu_vm> Stemming78, hve you not built a machine yet?
[07:59] <Stemming78> how about the Hauppauge HVR-1600
[07:59] <foxbuntu_vm> I mean are you going to buy new hardware?
[07:59] <foxbuntu_vm> Stemming78, that are allot of issues with that card
[08:00] <Stemming78> have two atm  buiding setup for my parents.....  thining two boxes
[08:00] <foxbuntu_vm> its not worth the $$ or pain
[08:00] <Stemming78> prefer interna cards.... but can hide it I suppose.....  Must say the pricing is dead on....
[08:00] <foxbuntu_vm> Stemming78, only reason I say anything is that I own a business selling prebuilt ready to use machines, and I am only a few weeks away from offering them from my website
[08:01] <foxbuntu_vm> I personally use an HDHR
[08:01] <foxbuntu_vm> I just park it behind the STB's in my entertainment center
[08:01] <Stemming78> thans...  there is a need for this....  good business venture....
[08:02] <foxbuntu_vm> yeah, its been a long time in the works
[08:02] <Stemming78> Father owns an accounting firm and is getting  PCs for free...  Ony need tuner card and video cards....
[08:02] <foxbuntu_vm> ah
[08:02] <Stemming78> cheap
[08:03] <foxbuntu_vm> well be careful with HD though, its very CPU intensive
[08:03] <Stemming78> With the HD HR  shoud tae the oad off
[08:03] <foxbuntu_vm> nope
[08:03] <foxbuntu_vm> the HDHR just streams to the backend
[08:04] <Stemming78> sorry "l" is not woring
[08:04] <Stemming78> boys fried a row of eys on my pricy eyboard
[08:04] <foxbuntu_vm> thats ok... my "a" hasnt been working well for me either :)
[08:04] <Stemming78> sucs
[08:04] <foxbuntu_vm> indeed
[08:05] <foxbuntu_vm> if your going to be doing HD I would say to stay north of a 3600+ X2 X86_64
[08:05] <foxbuntu_vm> or equiv intel
[08:05] <Stemming78> As for the HD HR ....  need to get another NIC card to get it functiona....  correct as it wi11 be hardwired system
[08:06] <Stemming78> any recommendations
[08:06] <foxbuntu_vm> no
[08:06] <foxbuntu_vm> the HDHR just wires to your home network
[08:06] <Stemming78> uses Cat45
[08:06] <foxbuntu_vm> Mythbuntu has the tools preloaded to auto discover the HDHR on your network
[08:06] <Stemming78> connection to PC is
[08:07] <Stemming78> that was a question
[08:07] <foxbuntu_vm> what?
[08:07] <foxbuntu_vm> oh does it use cat5?
[08:07] <foxbuntu_vm> yes
[08:07] <Stemming78> reword  what type of connection is used to attach to pc
[08:07] <Stemming78> very good       cat 5
[08:07] <foxbuntu_vm> the HDHR connects to your home network just like any PC
[08:08] <foxbuntu_vm> and then Mythbuntu will discover it
[08:08] <Stemming78> So I coud connect it to the router and not the PC
[08:08] <foxbuntu_vm> you should not connect it to the PC
[08:08] <Stemming78> Perfect
[08:08] <Stemming78> Then it is hidden
[08:09] <Stemming78> Thans for the assistance ....  a11 questions answered
[08:09] <foxbuntu_vm> cool...gl Stemming78
[08:09] <foxbuntu_vm> if you need parts or such in the future check out my site: www.foxmediasystems.com
[08:10] <foxbuntu_vm> I will be selling all the goodies including prebuilt systems
[08:11] <Stemming78> Wanted to et you now the new version of Mythbuntu is woring fauess for me....  had a probem with 7.10 and had to reboot each time I deeted a recording...  Probem was resoved with the new 8.04 reease....  great wor
[08:11] <Stemming78> Thans wi11 save the ur1
[08:11] <foxbuntu_vm> thanks
[08:11] <foxbuntu_vm> its good to see happy users
[08:12] <Stemming78> good uc with the venture....  Thin it wi be a succcess... especiay if you preoad Mythbuntu on it....  Might be good for the noobs...  I probaby woud have been VERY interested when U started
[08:13] <Stemming78> *I started....  STRUGGED
[08:13] <Stemming78> thans again off to bed....
[08:13] <foxbuntu_vm> thats what I am going for, bringing new users into the fold
[08:13] <foxbuntu_vm> np, later Stemming78
[08:14] <Stemming78> nice website.....  adios
[08:14] <foxbuntu_vm> thanks!
[16:02] <Stemming78> Can someone recommend a Wire1ess Card (PCI) for me...  Wire1ess G possib1e Draft N capabi1ities
[16:03] <Stemming78> Getting ready to purchase equipment for a new Mythbox
[16:08] <sabhain> making a combo front end / backend?
[16:21] <Stemming78> 1 PC wi11 have frontend and bacend....  2cond PC wi11 have frontend on1y
[17:00] <sabhain> arghh .. 7.10 desktop is really driving me nuts.
[17:03] <laga> what are you using 7.10 then..
[17:07]  * sabhain has it on his office laptop .. it's been stable .. so no hurry to upgrade (beta firefox not good yet) ..
[17:08] <sabhain> but in testing out some dd / optical disc backup stuff for my mythtv setup, I can't do anything with my laptop to help, since 7.10 won't install mencoder, or transcode .. so no k9copy .. ugh
[17:16] <jphillip> ddrescue works well
[17:36] <sabhain> command line backup?
[17:46] <sabhain> trying that now .. this would be EXACTLY what I've been fighting with .. looking to command line this process and do it via ssh on the core, rather than fighting the FE
[17:47] <jphillip> yep
[17:47] <jphillip> it can be a little slower since it will try to salvage bad data, but it gets the job done
[17:47] <jphillip> and works wonders on copy protected dvds :)
[18:58] <sabhain> jphillip is the man ..
[19:50] <connectedmico> hi guys.       can anyone help me out ?   what is the diference of the connector   a/v    and   RF
[19:58] <connectedmico> I don't know witch is witch
[20:08] <sabhain> RF is usually like Coax .. a/v could be anything, but it is probably RCA (Red & White for audio, Yellow for Video)
[20:10] <tgm4883_laptop> sabhain, also known as composite
[20:15] <sabhain> right ..
[20:40] <no-one> anyone there ?
[20:41] <connectedmico> tnks sab,
[20:41] <connectedmico> tnks sabhain
[20:45] <connectedmico> does anyone know a      Pinnacle PCTV Studio/Rave [card=39,autodetected]
[20:46] <laga> just ask a real question? ;)