/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/29/#xubuntu.txt

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xephoshi there, anyone out there?01:03
zoredachemaybe...01:09
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xephosi see that's a bot01:10
xephoswell, to anyone out there: I just installed Xubuntu, I have a second internal hard drive that Xubuntu knows is there when i ran fdisk -l but when i tried to mount it, i could only see this single document with a name that looked like a small matrix (like 2x2 matrix).  any ideas?01:12
xephosit's a FAT32 btw01:14
VencabotHey, Xubuntu. For some reason, after applying settings with the nvidia-settings tool, Xfce's Display Settings offers 1680x1510@88 resolution. If I restart X server, though, this option is gone and I'm back at 1680x1510@51 resolution. Any advice?01:36
cody-somervilleVencabot, try "default"?01:39
VencabotI let nvidia-settings change my xorg.conf, and it added some nice HorizSync and VertRefresh lines that I didn't have before, but even with this new xorg.conf I can only get 1680x1510@88 if I go through the nvidia-settings tool first.01:39
VencabotI'm not sure what rates Default uses, but before I go through nvidia-settings, 1680x1050@88 isn't even an option.01:40
Vencabot(I didn't mean 1510 before, I meant 1050.)01:41
VencabotI'm just curious where Xcfe's settings manager is getting all of these values from, and why applying changes through nvidia-settings would only change my list of possible values temporarily.01:43
xephosHey there, maybe one of you has an idea about this.  I just installed Xubuntu, I have a second internal hard drive that Xubuntu knows is there when i ran fdisk -l but when i tried to mount it, i could only see this single (i guess txt) document with a name that looked like a small matrix (like 2x2 matrix).  any ideas?01:47
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slimjimflimanybody know what packages correspond to these libraries?    *  xlib (pkg-config xlib) - Standard Xlib library06:32
slimjimflim    * xtst (pkg-config xtest) - XTEST library06:32
zorglu_q. im planning to install xubuntu on a EEEpc, how large is the install on disk ?08:53
nacreIt seems to use 3,5G atm10:02
nacrepretty strange.. I updated xfce4 to 4.4.2 and now global shortcuts don't work untill I open/close keyboard settings..10:04
KOJVThe programs require the kernel module i8k.o which can be compiled from the package sources or found in Linux kernel 2.4.14 and later versions.13:08
KOJVWhere can I get that kernel module? Thanks!13:09
Myrttitype "uname -a"13:09
KOJVLinux ellenor-laptop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux13:10
Myrtti2.6.24 > 2.4.14; but you don't have that?13:10
MyrttiI've got it in my laptop13:11
Myrttiare you trying to compile something?13:11
KOJVMyrtti: trying to install i8kfans.13:11
KOJVOr, well, it's installed but it won't run.13:11
KOJVI'm just fishing in the dark here.13:11
Myrttiwhere did you download from?13:12
KOJVdebian.org or something.. .also tried downloading it from the main respitory.13:12
Myrttiahem, ok.13:13
KOJ1Sorry, the machine hung.13:16
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KOJVAs I said, I'm trying to run i8kfans, fishing in the dark here...13:18
KOJVNobody knows how to make i8kfans work?13:24
StroganoffKOJV have you loaded ther kernel module? i8k.ko13:28
Stroganoffhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-216652.html13:29
Stroganoffthis thread also suggests to update your BIOS13:29
The_ManU_212hi13:46
The_ManU_212i installed hardy on a machine with ati radeon 9200 graphicscard13:46
The_ManU_212it doesnt detect the card and uses vesa13:46
The_ManU_212the hardware manager also doesnt show any propitary driver13:47
The_ManU_212the new fglrx doesnt supportr this card anymore13:47
The_ManU_212so i wanted to install the 8.28 driver manually, but it didnt worked, to many errors also because /bin/sh is dash ...13:47
The_ManU_212how can i get 3d acceleration?13:47
cody-somervilleInstall envy-ng13:48
The_ManU_212cody-somerville: do you have any howto?13:48
The_ManU_212and then my card is running?13:48
Myrtti!envy13:48
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.13:48
deniz_ogutHello. xubuntu 8.04 /turkish locale here. After my recent updates,I coudn't sign as my default user,which was an old one (3 distro upgrade) . I managed to solve it in some ways.I want to open a bug report but I don't knowhowto create the same conditions. Someone who had floating_ aced the same issue?13:48
Myrtti!info envy-ng13:49
ubottuPackage envy-ng does not exist in hardy13:49
cody-somervillehttp://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html13:49
deniz_ogut... or should we burrysuch things to the history?13:49
Myrttido'h13:49
The_ManU_212cody-somerville: i have an ATI card13:50
cody-somervilleThe_ManU_212, It works for nvidia and ATI13:50
The_ManU_212Myrtti: hm thats bad :(13:50
Myrttiit should be there...13:50
The_ManU_212cody-somerville: but as it seems hardy has no envy source?13:51
cody-somerville!info envy-gtk13:51
Myrtti!info envyng-gtk13:51
ubottuPackage envy-gtk does not exist in hardy13:51
ubottuenvyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB13:51
cody-somervillethere you go13:51
The_ManU_212which package shall i install?13:52
The_ManU_212envyng-gtk?13:52
nacreCan anyone help.. I updated xfce4 to 4.4.2 and now global shortcuts won't work until I open&close keyboard settings?13:54
MyrttiThe_ManU_212: yes13:55
The_ManU_212Myrtti: ok i'll try xubuntu currently is reinstalling, because i destroyed my system beacause of changes with bash and das13:56
The_ManU_212h13:56
Tobias78Hi, I'm KOJV, the official dumbnut IRCing on the machine that keeps hanging from overheating... please repeat any messages to me for the past five minutes. Thanks a lot!14:23
Tobias78Can someone please help me get i8kfans running? It's a Debian project that I try to run on Xubuntu. Dell Inspiron 8200 with new, 2-wire fans (no yellow wire to control them). I need i8kfans to make the fans run. Works fine in Windows. Please help!14:25
cody-somervilleTobias78, :/14:27
Tobias78cody-somerville?14:28
The_ManU_212where is the config of xfterm4?14:38
The_ManU_212because tehre is something wrong, graphic bugs i cant see all i type etc14:39
The_ManU_212i installed xubuntu new14:39
The_ManU_212so it has to be in /home ehich i only mounted14:39
The_ManU_212some one can help?14:45
ron_oegads.. I gotta a serious issue with, apparently, gnome-power-prefernces.... my computer keeps suspending after only a few minutes...14:55
ron_ohowever, I changes something in my power preferences to keep going (maybe)..14:56
The_ManU_212where is the xfterm4 config situated?14:56
The_ManU_212i have graphical issues, cant read the text (it is nooo font problem)14:56
TheSheepThe_ManU_212: in ~/.config/terminal/terminalrc14:57
ron_ounder >> preferences >> actions14:58
ron_odying here14:59
Tobias78Can someone please help me get i8kfans running? It's a Debian project that I try to run on Xubuntu. Dell Inspiron 8200 with new, 2-wire fans (no yellow wire to control them). I need i8kfans to make the fans run. Works fine in Windows. Please help!15:02
ron_omy computer keeps trying to suspend without my authorization.15:13
ron_oI just logged out and back in and it's doing OK this second, but who knows in a few minutes..15:13
ron_oI changed my gnome-power-preferences to ask me what to do when the power button is clicked and then all of a sudden the shutdown/suspend sequence started..15:14
ron_ootherwise it would suspend automatically.15:15
Tobias78Running Xubuntu, this Inspiron 8200 suddenly hangs, with CapsLock and ScrollLock lights flashing. Anybody dare guess why?15:16
TheSheepTobias78: kernel panic15:24
AlexCONRADhi, I just install hardy15:25
AlexCONRADand i'm new to xubuntu15:25
AlexCONRAD(or ubuntu in general)15:25
AlexCONRADi can't find the patch command15:25
AlexCONRADsudo patch doesn't work neiether15:25
AlexCONRADneither15:25
TheSheepAlexCONRAD: what are you trying to do?15:26
AlexCONRADTheSheep: hi, i'm trying to patch a file to compile a module15:26
AlexCONRADTheSheep: and patch doesn't seem to be installed15:26
TheSheepAlexCONRAD: install the 'build-essential' package15:26
AlexCONRADaah15:27
TheSheepit will install the compiler and most tools15:27
AlexCONRADok, now, I have no network on my computer15:27
AlexCONRADas I'm trying to patch the network card module15:27
AlexCONRADis build-essential on the xubuntu CD ?15:27
AlexCONRADand i've never played with .debs before... i'm comming from fedora (rpms)15:28
AlexCONRADso i'm still a little unconfortable with all that15:28
Tobias78TheSheep, how come?15:34
AlexCONRADI have found the build-essentials package in the cdrom under main/b/build-essentials15:34
Myrttiuh-oh15:34
Myrttijust enable the cd as a repository in the package manager15:34
AlexCONRAD(or something like that, the pc is in the other room)15:34
AlexCONRADpackage manager ... right. I'll look for that. Its in the menus ?15:35
Myrttiapplications - system - software sources15:35
Myrttitick cd on15:35
AlexCONRAD(because double clicking the .deb complains about dependencies)15:35
AlexCONRADthanks Myrtti15:35
AlexCONRADill go try that, brb15:35
Myrttithen you can install the bugger with synaptic15:36
AlexCONRADwhat's the bugger for ?15:36
Myrttiand it'll pull the dependencies too15:36
Myrttithe bugger = build-synaptics15:36
AlexCONRADsynaptics ?15:36
AlexCONRAD:p15:36
Myrttisorry15:36
Myrttineed coffee15:36
Myrttibrain fart15:36
Tobias78Anyone know how to put i8k in the systray?15:41
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platyhelminthHow to use 32 bit binaries on 64 bit Ubuntu (or Xubuntu)16:08
The_ManU_212envy-ng detects my ati radeon 9200 correctly, but says that the legacy driver which works with this card not available is for hardy, what to do for 3d acceleration?16:34
deniz_ogutSorry just asking for info: Is the default viewer for image files gimp and the default reader/viewer for plain text files OpenOfice in Xubuntu? I use xubuntu and was upgrading via Web for the last 3 distro and nowI added a newuser and its the case. Am I missing something?16:36
suRshello everyone16:36
deniz_oguthi16:36
suRsi neeed help :D16:36
deniz_ogutsak16:37
deniz_ogutask16:37
Myrttideniz_ogut: nope, in xubuntu there isn't even openoffice installed by default16:37
deniz_ogutinteresting.16:37
suRshay myrtti16:37
Myrttihi suRs16:37
suRsso myrtti16:37
suRsim going to send you a link16:37
suRson my laptop configurations .. and you are going to give me an advice for best linux to my computer16:38
Myrttiuh-oh :-)16:38
deniz_ogutok, i installed OperOffice bymyself once a time but why its the default fon text files? should I enter a bug?16:38
MyrttiI'm not such a good hardware expert16:38
Myrttideniz_ogut: you can change that yourself16:38
deniz_ogutof course I can and I di  I am asking for the benefit of the humanity. maybe there's a bug.16:39
Myrtticlick a text file with the right mouse button, select Open with other application16:39
deniz_oguti kknowdear friend.16:39
Myrttiyou've probably changed it yourself by accident16:39
deniz_ogutmaybe. but you knowits hard. I'm a good linuxuser.16:40
deniz_ogutis there any developer here who wishes to know more about the situation?16:42
The_Kernelwrong channel deniz_ogut16:43
The_Kernel:/16:43
deniz_ogutwhich one?16:43
deniz_ogut@The_Kernel: problem is this:i am not a member of developers or so and I dan't want to enter a bug if its nonsense.16:45
The_KernelIts nonsense :/16:46
deniz_ogutso... ok... but my machine does so. anyway ok. ı just warnted to warn if its a bug. i see that it is not.16:47
suRshttp://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/HP_Compaq_Business_Notebook_nc6400_RM106AW-UUZ/version.asp16:48
suRsannyone can tell witch Op system for me is best if i use this computer!16:48
y4ndexxLinux.16:49
deniz_ogut@suRs: what is the problem?16:49
suRsyes  but witch linux?16:49
suRswell the problem is i dont know what ubuntu i should use becose i can run compiz on this laptop16:49
suRsand my laptop is pretty good one it costed 2.300 usd! in the beggning -.-16:50
deniz_ogutwhat is your RAM?16:50
y4ndexxWhy can't you try the Live CD versions?16:50
suRs1024 mb 667 mhz i think16:50
suRsi just installed ubuntu from my windows16:50
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deniz_ogutnot procesessor but ram i ask like 128 256 1 GB etc...16:51
suRs1 Gb16:51
y4ndexxdeniz: he told ya already.16:51
deniz_ogutubuntu is just for you.16:51
suRsthe orginal one?16:51
deniz_ogutif you like to use xubuntu;its a matter of taste.16:51
deniz_ogutif you want one answer: ubuntu16:52
y4ndexx*buntu16:52
deniz_ogut....my opinion for sure.16:52
MyrttisuRs: you're not going to get unbiased answers here ;-)16:52
suRswhat verison on ubuntu should i use then?16:52
deniz_ogutwhat can i do.you see the q...16:52
y4ndexx8.04 LTS16:52
suRswhat does lts mean?16:52
y4ndexx8 means 2008, .04 means April, LTS means Long Term Support.16:53
deniz_ogutmeans its hard to answer distro questions...16:53
y4ndexxUse Ubuntu.16:53
deniz_ogutbut i believe that ubuntu is right for you.16:53
y4ndexxTry the live version.16:53
suRsi dont have the cd16:53
y4ndexxBurn one.16:53
suRsi have it on the map16:53
y4ndexxmap?16:54
suRson my windows im not good at burnign stuff i might ask my boyfriend but hes no home16:54
suRsyeah i downloaded it and extraced it and installed it16:54
y4ndexxumm...16:54
deniz_ogut???16:54
Myrttiwubi16:55
suRswell16:55
suRsi guess i just ahve to reinstall it again16:55
y4ndexxwell, if it's installed, what's the problem?16:55
deniz_ogut@suRs: do you have a install CD at han? a linuxone maybe an ubuntu?16:55
deniz_ogut*hand16:55
suRsno i dont have a cd16:55
deniz_oguthowdid you install it?16:56
suRsI have all files on A map in my windows op witch i used to install my xubuntu16:56
y4ndexxThe best way to know if Ubuntu will work, is to run it from live CD.16:56
suRswell i just doubble klicked O_o on the exe16:56
suRsxd16:56
deniz_ogutoh ok, you downloaded but doesnt have CD . rigt?16:56
suRsyeah16:56
suRsi havnt burned it :p16:56
suRshe16:56
deniz_ogutwould you please wait a minute.16:57
deniz_oguti wiml supply you with the info how you have the cd.16:57
deniz_ogut@suRs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto16:59
deniz_ogut@suRs: is it what you need?17:00
deniz_ogut@suRs: I mean: first you have an installCD at had and you can install ubuntu with that CD.17:01
deniz_ogutso you have to create this as an ISO CD image.17:02
slaine_Hey guys, just installed Xubuntu (Hardy) on an old Vaio laptop I have. Performs really well. However, I'm having a cosmetic issue with Terminal, for some reason, the window decorations aren't rendering properly. All other windows seem to render correctly17:21
slaine_anyone any suggestions ?17:22
suRsim back now17:30
suRssorry if i took  a while :D17:31
suRsi dont have any cd to burn on :S17:33
suRsdeniz17:36
zoredachesuRs: he left17:36
suRsare you saying there is somting wrong with my xubuntu couse i isntalled if from windows?17:36
suRsim sick of trying to fix my linux on my computer im not doing any progress at all17:38
suRs:/17:38
zoredachethere is nothing wrong with it, but linux would be a bit faster if you created a new partition and installed from the cd...17:38
suRswell17:39
zoredachesuRs: you are going to need to be more specific... 'not doing any progress' doesn't mean anything to me17:39
suRsfirst i would like to know how to use it before i do so17:39
suRsand i dont know if that willl work on my laptop17:41
suRsi dont have ati or nvidia card17:41
suRshow do i install themes on my xubuntu ? :D17:44
Odd-rationale!xfce-themes | suRs17:46
ubottusuRs: Themes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+ themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible with your xfce4 desktop. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/  To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ - Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/ for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop! - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites17:46
suRshow do i unpack stuff ?  and install17:47
Odd-rationalesuRs: use xarchiver17:47
suRsokej thanks boys i will try to get somting nice =) and really good replay time!17:49
suRsquestion17:49
suRswhen i look for themes  GTK 1.x and GTK 2.x and Xfce witch one shoild i look for?17:50
Odd-rationalexfce or gtk217:50
suRsthanks!17:51
suRshow do i get a 3d desktop on my xubuntu?18:10
Odd-rationalesuRs: you will need compiz and a good grphics card that suports compositing and stuff18:15
suRsmeh18:15
suRsi have intel graphic card18:15
suRsi can playe 3d games on windows with it18:16
Odd-rationalecan you run glxgears ?18:16
suRswhats that?18:17
Odd-rationalesuRs: run glxgears from a terminal and see if it runs smoothly...18:17
suRsi hvae to install it18:18
suRsshall i install it?18:18
Odd-rationalesuRs: yeah18:18
suRsyeah18:19
suRsit runs perfekt18:19
suRsfor me18:19
suRsno laggs or anything18:19
suRsand i have like alot stuff  upp18:19
Odd-rationalesuRs: ok. then compiz may work for you...18:19
suRsyeah18:20
suRsbut when i did a compiz check before18:20
suRsi got 3 fails18:20
suRsand i dont know why18:20
suRsomg18:20
suRsi dont now18:20
suRsi good all green18:20
suRsit says [ok] on all18:20
suRsrationale i love you thanks ! :D18:21
suRsbrb18:21
Odd-rationale:?18:22
suRsback18:25
suRsrationale were can i find a guide to install compiz?18:25
Odd-rationalesuRs: it is very easy. just do "sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager"18:26
suRsthanks :D18:28
suRsyour pro at linux?18:28
Odd-rationale...18:28
Odd-rationalei like to think i am... :?18:29
suRshehe well i just started like 1 week ago18:29
suRsbut i havnt improved anything18:29
suRsanyway i downloade the stuff what should i do now?18:29
Odd-rationalesuRs: is it installed?18:29
suRsi have no idea how do i know?18:29
Odd-rationalewell, if you ran the command i gave you, it should download and install those packages...18:30
suRswell18:30
suRsi did do that command and alot of stuff happend18:30
suRsdo i have to active it or restart somting?18:30
Odd-rationaletry going to applications --> settings --> advance desktop effects18:30
suRsokej im in at desktop effects18:31
Odd-rationalein gerneral options, go to the desktop size tab18:31
Odd-rationalethen set hor. = 4, ver. = 1, and no. of desktops = 118:31
suRsdone18:32
Odd-rationaleback in the main screen, enable these plugins: desktop cube, rotate cube18:32
Odd-rationalewobbly windows18:32
suRseffectsp18:33
suRsi can see alot of 3d stuff and so on icons18:33
Odd-rationalecube caps18:33
suRsi have cube reflection18:34
suRsand 3d windows18:34
Odd-rationalei think those will be good enough for now.18:34
suRsand alot of other stuff18:34
Odd-rationaleyou can play with the others later.18:34
Odd-rationalejust make sure you have the ones i mentioned above ^18:34
suRsshould i disabel desktop wall?18:34
Odd-rationalesuRs: yes18:34
suRswitch one18:35
suRsdid you mentioned?18:35
suRsi didnt se18:35
Odd-rationaledesktop cube, rotate cube, wobbly windows, cube caps18:35
Odd-rationalesuRs: got those?18:36
suRswait18:36
suRsim looking for them18:36
y4ndexxWill Compiz work on GeForce 2?18:37
suRsi have dsk cube rot cube wobbly  and i  have cube gears  cube reflection  3d windows  trailfocus fading windows18:38
Odd-rationaley4ndexx: probably...18:38
Odd-rationalesuRs: oh, go back to general options. and in the opacity tab, change the opcatiy during rotation to somthin like 40 %18:39
suRsim in general now were can i find opacity?18:40
Odd-rationaleor maybe it is called the appearence tab, i don't remember...18:40
suRsah18:40
suRsi see it18:40
suRsopacity settings18:40
Odd-rationalebut there should be an option for opcatiy during rotation18:40
suRsi cant se that18:41
suRsonly opactiy step18:41
Odd-rationalesuRs: then that is the wrong tab...\18:41
suRshm18:41
Odd-rationalewait. actually, i think it is in the desktop cube settings... sorry18:42
Odd-rationalesuRs: click on the desktop cube plugin...18:42
suRsyeah18:42
suRsfound it18:42
suRsits at 100.0000 atm18:42
suRsshould i go down to 40?18:42
Odd-rationaleset it to like between 40 -6018:42
Odd-rationalehey brb.18:42
Odd-rationalereal quick..18:43
suRsdone18:43
suRs54.207918:43
suRsnow what? :D18:44
Odd-rationaleok back18:45
Odd-rationaleclose the advance settings and lets see if it works18:46
Odd-rationaleready?18:46
suRsyeah18:46
suRshow do i do?18:46
Odd-rationaledo alt+f218:46
suRsyeah done18:46
Odd-rationaleand type in "compiz --replace" without the quotes and press enter18:47
suRsokej done18:47
Odd-rationaletry rotateing the cube with ctrl+alt+left/right18:47
Odd-rationaleor better yet. ctrl+alt+leftmouse_button_press_and_hold_and_move_mouse_around18:48
suRsokej somting just happend18:49
suRsmy linux just turned down18:49
Odd-rationalewhat happened?18:49
suRsmaybe18:49
suRsits the rotate?18:49
suRscouse everything els works18:50
suRsomg!18:50
suRsit worked when i turned18:50
suRsthe thing over18:50
Odd-rationaletry  ctrl+alt+leftmouse_button_press_and_hold_and_move_mouse_around18:50
Odd-rationaleuh,oh...18:51
suRswell18:51
suRsmy computer shouts down18:51
suRsor it comes some black text18:51
suRsand i have to logg in again18:51
suRsbut i can turn the window18:52
Odd-rationalesuRs: i guess, your computer doesn't like compiz...18:52
suRsby  klicking on my bar .. down you know18:52
suRsmaybe18:52
suRsits the rotate thingy?18:52
Odd-rationaleto turn off compiz, do alt+f2 and type in "xfwm4 --replace"18:53
suRsdone18:53
suRswell18:54
suRsit didnt work i still have compiz on i think18:54
Odd-rationalesuRs: what didn't work? xfwm4 --replace ?18:54
suRsyea18:54
Odd-rationaleyou mean you still have compiz running?18:55
suRsyeah18:55
Odd-rationalesuRs: what version of xubuntu you running?18:55
suRsthe newest one18:55
Odd-rationale8.04?18:55
suRshm18:55
suRsi uppdated18:55
Odd-rationalelsb_release -a18:56
Odd-rationalefor version ifo18:56
suRsyeah18:56
suRs8.04 hardy ubuntu18:56
Odd-rationalesuRs: try "xfwm4 --replace" again18:57
suRsnothing happend18:58
suRshmm18:58
suRsodd you said  cube caps should be on right?18:59
Odd-rationaleyeah... makes it look better..18:59
suRsi didnt have it on18:59
Odd-rationaleshould make it crash though...18:59
suRsaaa19:00
Odd-rationalesuRs: you can get more expert help in the #compiz channel19:00
suRsit works now19:00
suRsto rotate it19:00
suRsit works19:00
Odd-rationalei need to go eat lunch...19:00
suRswhen will you be back?19:00
Odd-rationalesorry, i could help more...19:00
Odd-rationalecouln't19:00
suRsbut when will you be back then?19:01
Odd-rationalei'll be back when i'm done...19:01
Odd-rationaledepends how hungry i am...19:01
Odd-rationalebut there are plenty of more knowledgeable people around. here and in the #compiz channel...19:01
suRsalright ill wait for you i got more questions :p19:01
suRsanyone here?19:12
cody-somervilleyup19:15
suRshmm19:24
Odd-rationalei'm back...19:25
Odd-rationalehello, cody-somerville :)19:25
cody-somerville:)19:25
cody-somerville\o_19:25
suRsahha :p okej odd19:25
Odd-rationalecody-somerville: i usually answer that question in the negative... ;)19:26
Odd-rationalesuRs: wasup?19:26
suRswell19:26
suRsiv been mixing and19:26
suRswhen i start the 3d Windows19:26
suRsand have compiz on thats why crashes my linux19:27
Odd-rationalehmm. well, 3d windows was part of the unstbale plugins not too long ago. i guess it still has some bugs...19:27
Odd-rationalesuRs: so if you disable 3d windows, does everything else work? rotation, opacity, ect?19:28
suRsyeah19:28
suRseverything19:28
suRsworks fine19:29
suRsi think its some settings19:29
suRsin 3d that crashes my linux19:29
suRsso i have to find the right onces.. but i know the 3d work so thats not the problem19:29
Odd-rationaleand if you log off, restart X, and log back in, is compiz still running? or do you have to start it again with alt+f2 "compiz --replace" ?19:29
suRsi have to start it19:30
suRswith alt f2 allways when i logg off19:30
Odd-rationalesuRs: well do you prefer it that way? or would you like to have it autostart?19:30
suRsi would like to ahve it on start19:32
suRsso i dont have to press alt alt f2 allways :p19:32
suRsmight be annyoing19:32
Odd-rationalesuRs: go to Applications --> settings --> autostarted applications19:33
Odd-rationaleclick add19:33
Odd-rationalefor Name: Compiz Fusion, Descrption: Desktop Effects, Command: compiz --replace19:34
suRsice19:34
suRsnice19:34
suRsdone19:34
Odd-rationalesuRs: then try logging out and back in...19:34
suRsokej brb19:35
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suRshay opp19:56
Odd-rationaleme?19:57
suRsyeah19:57
suRssorry sotming is worng19:57
suRsi coulnt restart my xubuntu19:57
Odd-rationale:?19:57
suRswell i got lucky i started it on safe mode19:57
suRsand i luckly took off the compiz on restart19:57
suRsbut now i cant drag anything19:57
suRsand everything got stuck into the screen lol19:58
suRsand when i restart xubuntu all the programs start up. at the beggning19:58
Odd-rationalehmm...19:58
suRsits like this i start a screen19:58
suRsand its stuck there19:58
suRsfor expample i cant move my irc screen19:59
Odd-rationalesuRs: did you try to reboot?19:59
suRsyeah alot of times19:59
suRsi cant see my down bar19:59
suRsits like my screen has frozen19:59
Odd-rationalesuRs: try ctrl+alt+bksp to restart the X server. NOTE you will lose all unsaved data...20:00
suRsand i cant drag them20:00
suRssamme thing dosnt work20:01
Odd-rationalesuRs: do you have compiz running?20:01
suRsno20:01
suRsits off20:01
suRsprobbly20:01
Odd-rationalesuRs: what exaclty is not working?20:01
suRsmy op its not working probber20:02
suRsand when i did alt f2 and compiz replace my computer restarted20:02
suRsor the loggin screen20:02
Odd-rationalesuRs: well if compiz is off, i don't know what could be the issue...20:05
suRswell i dont know ither so iw ill try to restart it again20:05
suRsand see if it works or i might just ahve to reinstall my linux again20:05
suRsits like i cant move any of my screens20:05
suRslike thay are frozen20:05
Odd-rationalesuRs: try rebooting your machine...20:05
suRsno didnt work still samme problem20:08
Odd-rationalesuRs: i don't quite get the problem,,,20:08
suRsThe poblem is20:09
Odd-rationaleyou have no window borders?20:09
suRswell i have the top one20:09
suRsi wish i could take screen shot and send you20:10
suRsokej i will try to explain i have 1 window open20:10
suRsand i cant move it20:10
Odd-rationalesuRs: i mean you dont have the minimize, maximize, close button around every window?20:10
suRsthen if i take another winodw  for example that comes over the other window20:10
suRsi cant move it20:10
suRsthe windows are frozen20:10
suRsyeah20:10
Odd-rationalesuRs: can you alt+left_click on the window and move it?20:10
suRsno20:11
suRsi cant20:11
Odd-rationalesuRs: try alt+f2 "xfwm4 --replace"20:11
suRswow20:11
suRsit worked20:11
suRsnice20:11
suRsit works perfekt now20:12
Odd-rationalebut now compiz is off.20:12
suRsi can see and move everything now20:12
suRsyeah well i just have to active ate it20:12
suRson alt f2 if i whant it everytime20:12
Odd-rationalecheck your applications --> settings --> auto-started applications. is compiz still on there...20:12
suRsno its not i took it off20:12
suRswhile i had the time after i reboted20:13
suRscouse i had like 10 secound before i rebooted it my computer rebooted auto20:13
Odd-rationalesuRs: well on solution is to use emerald20:13
Odd-rationaleone20:13
Odd-rationalebut, i'm not a big fan of emerald...20:14
suRswhat is emerald?20:14
Odd-rationaleit is a window decorator...20:14
Odd-rationalefor compiz20:14
suRshmm what does it do?20:14
suRsw20:14
suRswell sec i will try run compis for a sec20:15
suRswell it worked20:15
suRsand nothing crashed20:15
Odd-rationaleit draws the the things around the windows for compiz20:15
suRswhen i rebot my system why does all my programs allso reboot ?20:16
Odd-rationalebecause you kill X20:16
Odd-rationaleand most of your programs are using X20:17
suRsokej.20:17
suRsso that emerald is good for me?20:17
Odd-rationalemaybe...20:17
suRscouse compiz works fine right now ..20:17
suRsi just have to press alt f2 and start it20:17
Odd-rationaleif things are working fine now... i hate to mess it up again...20:17
suRswell20:18
suRsshould we try or we never  know :p20:19
Odd-rationaleok. well then "sudo apt-get install emerald"20:19
suRsif i mess up20:19
suRswhat happens then?20:19
Odd-rationalesuRs: you will have to reinstall xubuntu...20:19
Odd-rationalej/k20:19
suRshaha20:20
suRswell its finish20:20
Odd-rationaleopen the advance desktop effects again.20:21
suRsalright20:21
Odd-rationalefind the window decoration plugin... enable it. click on it and for command, put emerald20:21
Odd-rationaleclose the advance desktop effects. stop compiz with alt+f2 "xfwm4 --replace"20:22
Odd-rationaleand restart compiz with alt+f2 "compiz --replace"20:22
suRstrying to find the emerald20:23
suRswere can i find window decoration plugin?20:23
Odd-rationalesuRs: in the advance desktop effects settings20:23
Odd-rationalesuRs: there should be a search feature in the lefft column20:23
suRsa found it20:24
suRsWindow decorations20:24
suRs/usr/bin/compiz-decorator20:24
suRson my command20:24
suRsshould i put emerald?20:24
Odd-rationalesuRs: change it to emerald20:24
suRsdone20:25
Odd-rationaleok. stop compiz and start it up again.20:25
suRswell20:25
suRswhen i run the xfwm4 nothing happends20:25
suRsbut i will try run compiz again couse all my screen restart kinda20:25
suRsdone20:26
Odd-rationalewell, how are things?20:26
suRswell20:26
suRslike before20:26
suRsi cant see any diffrence20:26
Odd-rationalecan you move winodows?20:26
suRsyeah20:26
Odd-rationaleare the windows borders red?20:27
suRsno20:27
suRsthay are silver20:27
Odd-rationalehmm. ok...20:27
suRsmy colour has allways ben silver20:27
Odd-rationaletry to put compiz back in the autostart and log off and back in20:27
suRsnoo20:28
suRsif i do that i dont know how to come back20:28
suRscouse i just got lucky20:28
suRsto get in back and fix it20:29
suRsit restarted everytime20:29
suRsmy screen loaded20:29
suRsafter i logged in20:29
suRsi had like 5-10 secounds on me to fix it20:29
suRsi wrote in user name and password20:29
suRsthe screen loads i see irc start and my top bar is comming right after20:29
suRsthen some fire fox window openes and then bam all goes black and restart to login screen20:30
Odd-rationalehmm. ok nvm20:30
suRsyeah20:31
suRsim scared to try that :p20:32
suRsso i just might start it everytime i loggin :p20:32
suRsheh20:32
suRswell20:35
suRsim going to try reboot20:35
suRsagain to see if it works now20:35
suRswell it worked to boot but still my irc window pops upp direct120:36
suRshmm i had the samme problem when i logged in that my screen was stuck so u used that xfwm4 --replace20:38
suRsand it worked20:38
suRsbut when i tryed to start compiz i got back to loading screen20:38
suRsnow compiz is activated20:38
suRsits wierd .. its like i cant switch betewwn compis and xfwm4 ..20:39
suRsnow my bars are red.20:40
suRsthere?20:43
Odd-rationaleyeah, that's emerald...20:44
suRsodd20:46
Odd-rationalesuRs: yeah?20:46
suRsi think i know the problem soon20:46
suRslissen ..20:46
suRswhen i try to switch from compiz to fxwm4 it dosnt work20:47
suRsand when my linux crashes it starts with some wierd config so i have to turn on fxwm4 then it works20:47
suRsand after that i can turn on compiz again20:47
suRsbut i still dont know why my 3d window dosnt work20:48
Odd-rationalecompiz is still very buggy...20:49
Odd-rationalei don't even use it anymore...20:49
Odd-rationalecompiz works best with gnome...20:49
suRswhy wont you use it ?20:50
Odd-rationalesuRs: it eats up all my ram..20:50
suRshow much ram do you have?20:50
Odd-rationale2 gb20:50
Odd-rationalebtw, if you don't like the defualt emerald themes, you can more here: http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=102&PHPSESSID=29b659cd74ab20e74b0c05547cb88edc20:51
suRsim only using 1 gig ram and im using 300 atm20:51
Odd-rationalejust open the .emerald file with the emerald theme manager...20:51
Odd-rationaleafter you download it that is...20:51
suRsalright20:53
suRsyou know how to install other themes for backround?20:53
suRsi have downloaded one but i dont know how to install it20:53
jonkristianIs it normal that an update process takes over two hours after a clean install from 8.04 ?20:53
jonkristianIt's getting very embarassing, though, it's a old and slow toshiba satelite, but still, it's embarassing20:54
suRswow20:55
suRs2 hrs only took  me like 20 minuts :p20:55
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Odd-rationalejonkristian: you could reinstall twice in that amount of time... ;)20:56
Odd-rationalesuRs: you can configure the background the same as in xfce....20:56
Odd-rationaleright-click background, desktop settings, etc...20:56
suRsbut iv downloaded a map20:56
suRssome  Aquatic_black_theme.tar.gz20:57
Odd-rationalesuRs: you will have to extract the tarball.20:57
suRshow do i exakly do that20:58
suRsThemes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+20:59
suRs themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible20:59
suRs with your xfce4 desktop.20:59
suRsTo install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/20:59
suRs To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ -20:59
suRs Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/20:59
suRs for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop!20:59
suRs - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites20:59
Odd-rationaleright-click and say extract20:59
suRsthis is what i saved last time i got an advice.20:59
jonkristianOdd-rationale: I don't belive you21:00
Odd-rationalejonkristian: well, i have. literally...21:01
jonkristianOdd-rationale: well, it's a AMD K6 with 130mb ram, so i might21:01
jonkristianBut still, it's way beyond my imagination that it could take so loong21:01
Odd-rationaleyou should just use DSL or puppy21:01
suRsodd you said extract were should i extract it to?21:02
Odd-rationalesuRs: whever you want for now. you can always move it later.21:02
suRswel okej desktop21:03
suRsthen ? :D21:03
Odd-rationaleok21:03
suRsi got the map on my desktop21:03
Odd-rationaleright-click the desktop, and go to desktop settings. you can configure the background there. just point it to the file you your desktop21:04
jonkristianOdd-rationale: I see, maybe i should try one of those then21:04
Odd-rationalejonkristian: i think i vaguely remember you...21:04
jonkristianOdd-rationale: your nick is kind of familiar21:05
suRswell21:05
jonkristianOdd-rationale: im using archlinux myself, but i got an old laptop here, and i was wanting to try out another distro21:05
Odd-rationalejonkristian: didn't you have some secret project going on with this dude doing some file hosting and conversion website?21:05
suRsits not justa  backround odd its alot of other maps in it21:05
suRsicon theme21:05
Odd-rationalejonkristian: cool, i'm an arch user myself...21:06
jonkristianOdd-rationale: ah:)21:06
suRsnvm odd i found a install  to read ..21:06
suRsim going to try21:06
Odd-rationalesuRs: ok :)21:06
jonkristianI'll go for puppy linux i think, it looks more interesting than DSL21:07
Odd-rationalejonkristian: definitly. puppy > dsl21:07
suRsodd were is my theme settings?21:07
suRsyou know that i dont know were it is :D21:07
Odd-rationalecheck applications --> settings --> setting mananger...21:07
suRshm witch21:08
suRsone is it?21:08
suRssplash screen?21:08
Odd-rationalesuRs: what are you trying to install?21:09
suRsa theme :p21:09
suRsa whole theme for my linux21:09
Odd-rationalewhat kind of themes? can i see the link where you got it?21:09
suRsyea21:09
suRswait21:09
suRshttp://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Aquatic+Black?content=8000021:11
suRsthe red stuff look awsome in the screen i whant that to :p21:11
Odd-rationaleoh, no...21:12
suRshahaha21:13
suRswhat now? :p21:13
Odd-rationalesuRs: did you see the "how to install" file ?21:13
suRsyeah21:14
suRswell21:14
suRssended you on privat now how to insall  xd21:14
Odd-rationaleyeah, that file21:15
Odd-rationaledid that work?21:15
jonkristianOdd-rationale: file hosting/conversion? Don't think so21:15
suRswell what you mean did that work?21:15
suRsi havnt tryed  it21:15
jonkristianBut it think i hate file hosting sites, they're damn slow:D21:15
Odd-rationalesuRs: well follow those directions...21:16
Odd-rationalejonkristian: ok. must have been a different guy...21:16
suRsLEIFGR21:17
Odd-rationale?21:17
suRsSORRY21:17
suRswere is  home?21:19
suRsok nvm21:20
Odd-rationalesuRs: home is ~ or /home/<yourusername>21:20
suRsaaa21:20
suRshow do i move the map theme and icon to home?21:20
Odd-rationalesuRs: copy, paste21:21
suRsi cant copy the whole map?21:22
Odd-rationalesuRs: sorry, what do you mean by "map"? folder?21:22
suRsyeah folder21:22
suRscosue i have to move theme and icon to home folder.21:23
suRsfile:///home/suey/Desktop/Aquatic%20Black/Themes21:23
suRswrong21:23
Odd-rationalesuRs: yes. coopy the Icons and Theme folder. and paste them in /home/<youusername>21:23
suRsi cant21:26
Odd-rationalesuRs: why not?21:26
suRscouse it wont let me copy the folder :S21:27
suRstell me how should i do exakly couse i did this21:27
suRsi frist extraced the map from the  tar.gz file to my desktop and in this folder there is icon and theme i try to copy them and pase them in Home witch i use  file system file manager with21:28
Odd-rationalesuRs: sounds right to me... do you get any error messages?21:30
suRsno21:31
Odd-rationaletry "cp -r /home/suey/Desktop/Aquatic\ Black/Themes/ ~/.themes"21:32
Odd-rationalei mean this "cp -r ~/Desktop/Aquatic\ Black/Themes/ ~/.themes"21:32
suRsin terminal?21:34
Odd-rationalethen do  "cp -r ~/Desktop/Aquatic\ Black/Icons/ ~/.icons"21:34
Odd-rationaleyes in terminal21:34
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suRscp -r ~/Desktop/Aquatic\ Black/Themes/ ~/.themes ?21:35
suRsright?21:35
Odd-rationaleyeah21:35
suRswell21:35
suRsnothing append21:35
suRshappend21:35
Odd-rationalesuRs: good21:36
Odd-rationalenow try "cp -r ~/Desktop/Aquatic\ Black/Icons/ ~/.icons"21:36
suRsnothing happend21:36
Odd-rationaleok fine.21:36
Odd-rationalenow do "cd"21:36
zoredachesuRs: on the linux command line no response means the command completed successfully.  You will only see something if there is an error21:37
Odd-rationalethen do "ls -a"21:37
Odd-rationaledo you see .themes and .icons folders?21:37
suRsyeah21:37
suRsi see theme and icons21:38
Odd-rationalesuRs: good. is there a . before them? like .themes?21:38
suRsyeah'21:38
Odd-rationalesuRs: ok. well then you have succsessfully done step one and two. move on to step 1 for XFCE21:39
suRswhat should  i do?21:40
Odd-rationalesuRs: read that "how to install" file. it has the directions there...21:40
suRsi need pingin21:41
Odd-rationaleyou should have pidgin in applications --> internet --> pidgin21:41
suRscool found it21:41
Odd-rationaleanyways, i gtg21:43
Odd-rationalettyl21:43
suRsthanks alot odd21:45
suRsfor all the help!21:45
suRsi see you later!21:45
Yoshimitsuhello...can i get help here?22:09
TheSheepYoshimitsu: you need to ask your question first22:11
Myrtti/me puts her crystal ball away22:11
YoshimitsuI am fairly new to linux. I am learning basic commands, working around the gui. I want to know if there is a way to add desktop icons for apps in xubuntu hardy22:12
TheSheepYoshimitsu: yes, right click on the desktop and select 'create launcher'22:12
TheSheepYoshimitsu: you can also copy the launchers from /usr/share/applications -- those are the ones that make up the menu22:13
Yoshimitsuthank you....even though right clicking the desktop brings up the apps menu, It worked for the second option22:16
TheSheepYoshimitsu: ah, then you need to click on some existing icon22:19
TheSheepYoshimitsu: there is an option controlling that in desktop settings, it defaults to not display the apps menu22:20
Yoshimitsuoh...got it22:20
Yoshimitsulinux is beautiful22:21
TheSheepYoshimitsu: glad you like it22:22
Yoshimitsuis there any way to autostart a particular application on startup? pidgin for example22:23
suRsi think there is22:25
suRsyou can make it your own probbly22:26
YoshimitsuI cannot seem to find anything in preferences..i hunted a lot last night22:26
suRssettings management22:27
Yoshimitsui'm sorry to bother u guys like this22:27
suRsi think22:27
cody-somervilleYoshimitsu, if you enable session management, whatever applications are running when you quit will restart22:27
suRsapplications - > settings -> settings manager22:27
suRsthen should be an incon there that named is autostarted apps22:28
cody-somervilleOr you can go Applications > Settings > Autostarted Apps22:28
cody-somervilleOh, right right22:28
suRsthen you klick like add i think and rest i dont know :p22:28
suRscody22:29
suRsyour good on linux?22:29
cody-somervilleI'm not bad22:29
suRswell22:29
suRscan you tell me what kinda theme should i use for my linux i use xubuntu 8.0422:29
TheSheepthe default is nice ;)22:33
suRswell i whant somting nice22:34
cody-somervilleI like the default myself22:36
Myrttimurrina rose22:38
TheSheepmurrina gilouche duo22:39
TheSheepand the gilouche window theme22:39
suRshow do i get xmms?22:41
cody-somervillexmms is no longer in the repository22:43
Myrttiinstall audacious instead22:43
Myrttiit looks the same22:43
suRshow do i install it myrtti?22:45
suRssudo get insatll audacious?22:46
Myrttisudo aptitude install audacious22:46
suRsE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)22:46
suRsE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?22:46
TheSheepMyrtti: we try to not use aptitude, as it has part of the package infor databse separate from synaptic22:47
TheSheepsuRs: you forgot sudo, use apt-getinstead of aptitude or just use synaptic22:47
TheSheeps/infor/info22:48
suRsthanks22:48
MyrttiTheSheep: oh well, just when I've learned to use aptitude instead of apt-get22:49
Myrtti:-<22:49
TheSheepMyrtti: there are tools for synchronizing it, but that's additional explaining22:50
TheSheepMyrtti: use aptitude your self if you want :)22:50
suRshehe22:51
suRsapt-get its fater22:51
suRsfaster to write22:51
suRshm22:54
suRsi wonder why i cant open firefox22:54
suRshttp://di-fm22:55
suRsgoing to restart my comp22:56
suRsi need help23:02
cody-somervillesuRs, ask your question :P23:02
suRsi cant see my bars23:02
suRsmy settings bars..23:02
suRsmy desktop23:03
suRsall i can see its my icons23:03
cody-somervillepress alt+f223:03
suRsbut not the top and below bar23:03
cody-somervilletype: xfce4-panel23:03
cody-somervilleand hit okay23:03
suRson terminal? or alt f223:04
cody-somervillealt + f223:04
suRsalright thay are back now23:04
suRsthanks23:04
suRsdunno what happend23:04
suRsi had all my settings on right klick mouse23:05
suRsso i could enter applications and so :D23:05
db-keenTrying to install Xubuntu 8.04 from LiveCD on old (1999) computer, disk integrity check passes, memory check passes, but during install it shows the xubuntu loading screen, and the status bar gets all the way to completion, and then nothing further is shown on the screen. Any tips?23:05
db-keenUbuntu feisty was once installed on it23:06
db-keenso I'm pretty sure it should meet the hardware requirements23:06
Odd-rationaledb-keen: how much memory do you have?23:12
Odd-rationaledb-keen: the alternative cd usually installs more smoothly, even if you do meet the requirements...23:13
Odd-rationaleso i would reccommend trying that.23:13
db-keenOdd-rationale: thanks, I'll try that.23:14
suRsodd23:18
suRsdidnt you go to sleep?23:18
Odd-rationalesuRs: not yet...23:21
suRshah but you told me :p you would go to sleep23:22
Odd-rationalesuRs: i did :?23:22
suRsyeah you did23:22
vanityvertigoHi, I'm trying to connect to my wireless router in Xubuntu 8.04. I tried using the connection manager in the panel but that didn't show any wireless routers in my area. I went on to the terminal method. I noticed my card was in "lshw -C network" but disabled so I tried "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" and instead I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument. I'm using a US Robotics 802.11b card and the driver is hostap.23:22
suRsodd23:26
suRsi gave upp that theme i were about to install was to hard23:26
suRsyou told me to look for xfce themes?23:26
suRsare thay easier to install on xubuntu?23:26
Yoshimitsuanyone have tips for compiz23:32
Yoshimitsuin xubuntu23:32
suRsi do! :D23:32
suRswhat kinda tip?23:32
Yoshimitsuis itgood23:32
Yoshimitsuor just a hardware hog23:32
suRsbug?23:32
Yoshimitsui mean23:32
Yoshimitsudoes it make ur pc slow down23:33
Yoshimitsu?23:33
suRswell odd said it takes alot of ram23:33
Yoshimitsu:(23:33
suRsbut my computer is strong i cant feel any diffrence and i only have 1 gig ram23:33
vanityvertigoYeah, it adds fancy effects in x23:33
vanityvertigoLike wobbly windows or whatever you configure it too23:33
suRsi use 400 of 1000 ram23:34
vanityvertigoNot a good idea to use it if you're system is low on RAM23:34
suRsand i got like 1313131 programs running xD23:34
Yoshimitsui'm running virtualbox too so thatd be S L O W23:34
Yoshimitsu320 megs sdram only23:34
suRsoh23:34
suRsmine are ddr2 667 mhz23:34
Yoshimitsuyeh23:34
suRsim on a core  duo T7700 somting23:34
Yoshimitsuwher do i get the plugins23:35
Yoshimitsu?23:35
suRs2.0 mhz23:35
Odd-rationaleYoshimitsu: i wouldn't run compiz in a vritual machine...23:35
YoshimitsusuRs: what are u doing on x then?23:35
Yoshimitsui mean23:35
suRswhat you mean?23:35
suRson x?23:35
Yoshimitsui m running winxp on a virtual machine23:35
suRsoh23:35
suRsyea well i got windows xp allso23:35
suRson this laptop23:36
Yoshimitsuoh ok23:36
Yoshimitsux=xfce :P23:36
suRsbut to tell you linux ownes23:36
Yoshimitsui know23:36
suRsits alot more funnier then xp23:36
suRsand i love it23:36
Yoshimitsuit's just that i need visual studio for college stuff23:36
suRsjust a bit hard to config and a bits of bug but23:36
suRshay  i dont see a blue screen xD23:36
Yoshimitsu:D23:36
suRsodd your there??23:37
Odd-rationaleyes23:39
suRswere was it i could find themes for x?23:39
suRsthat are nooot complicated to install23:39
vanityvertigoxfce you mean?23:39
Odd-rationalehttp://xfce-looks.org23:39
Odd-rationaleopps23:39
Odd-rationalehttp://xfce-look.org23:39
Odd-rationale!xfce-themes23:40
ubottuThemes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+ themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible with your xfce4 desktop. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/  To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ - Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/ for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop! - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites23:40
suRsyeah23:41
suRsbut i allredy did unpaack my team and icons right?23:41
suRsnvm i just delited the map23:41
vanityvertigoDoes anyone have any idea for my question? Sorry, it's just fallen back a bit.23:43
vanityvertigoI hate sounding needy on when asking questions on IRC. >_<23:44
Odd-rationalevanityvertigo: is your card working?23:44
vanityvertigoIt worked just fine when I was using my box as a Ubuntu 8.04 command line install23:45
vanityvertigoI just installed Xubuntu and it doesn't seem to work.23:45
Odd-rationalewhat card is it?23:45
vanityvertigoIt's US Robotics USR241023:46
Odd-rationalevanityvertigo: can you pastebin the output of "iwconfig"23:46
vanityvertigoI'm on a another computer23:47
Odd-rationaleoh...23:47
vanityvertigoNo ethernet on that one >_<23:47
Odd-rationalevanityvertigo: well, does iwconfig show the wireless device?23:47
vanityvertigoYes23:47
Odd-rationaledoes "iwlist scanning" show your wireless etwork?23:48
vanityvertigoI only get "No scan results"23:48
Odd-rationalehmm..23:48
vanityvertigoWhen there should be 5 access points in my area23:48
Odd-rationaledoes networkmanager applet show any networks?23:49
suRsodd23:49
vanityvertigoNo23:49
Odd-rationalesuRs: what's up?23:49
suRsreally odd i cant find any other theme that i whant then that aqua black :/23:49
suRsand its hard for me to install >.< couse i dont get it23:50
vanityvertigoI tried adding my network anyways but it just won't connect23:50
Odd-rationalesuRs: well, just extract the .tar file and follow the directions on the "how to install" file...23:50
suRshmm23:51
suRsshould i frist extract the tar file to my desktop?23:51
Odd-rationalevanityvertigo: well, wireless problems are one of the hardest things to troubleshoot through irc... the best i can do now is forward you to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68449523:51
vanityvertigoOkay, thanks anyways. ^_^23:51
Odd-rationalesuRs: that is fine.23:51
suRsdiddnt we have to do some wierd file thing?23:52
suRsto make the .theme and .icone go to home?23:52
vanityvertigoYeah, since this is just being screwy I might just go back to a command line install and add fluxbox or something23:52
vanityvertigoYeah, in your home you need to extract the theme into .theme23:53
vanityvertigoYou can press Ctrl-H if you're using thunar to see it23:53
Odd-rationalesuRs: just copy and paste. select the Themes folder. navigate to your home directory and paste...23:53
Odd-rationalesuRs: paste it in /home/<yourusername> not in /home23:54
Odd-rationalevanityvertigo: if you like configuring stuff from the cli, you might like arch linux like myself.. ;)23:55
suRsalright done23:55
Odd-rationalethen rename it to .themes23:55
suRsalright23:55
Odd-rationalesuRs: just follow the directions, it is all in there...23:55
suRsit says i should go into my theme settings23:56
suRsbut i dont know were it is23:56
suRsThen go to your theme settings or whatever, the UI, WM and Icons are called Aqautic Black, the mouse theme plain black <- descriptions23:56
CITguy08Can anybody help me troubleshoot a xfce4-session segfault? After a power outage, I cannot get XFCE to load.23:57
Odd-rationalesuRs: try looking in apllications --> settings --> settings manager23:57
suRswell i did that  dont witch i should look after23:58
Odd-rationalesuRs: click on window-manager23:59
suRsi got an error23:59

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