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jillthis is console tells to me when i do your command00:00
shane2perujill: right but trust me all the packages are deb, they have been deb files since the Breezy days. :)00:01
shane2peruand even before.00:01
jillokay00:01
shane2peruthey should be in that folder /var/cache/apt/archives/00:01
jillbut finder writes me - only 2 files and it is on desktop, my packages from usb disk00:01
shane2peruwow, slocate took a while to find all mine, I guess I have too many00:02
holyguyver_Audacity is for some reason not producing sound in Hardy, is it because of Pulse, & how do I fix it?00:02
nosrednaekimare you running kde>00:02
shane2perujill: ok, I gotta go.00:03
simulaif i copy my /usr and /home directory from one computer to another, should all my applications launch and run correctly (assuming they are both running the same version of Kubuntu)?00:03
shane2perube back later :)00:03
jillshane2peru, bye and thanks00:03
shane2perusimula: no, you are going to need the /00:03
sgrahamanyone any good with virtualbox?00:03
shane2perujill: no prob00:03
epimeth/msg nickserv identify n0things00:03
jillshane2peru wait00:03
nosrednaekimsgraham: the guys in #vbox are00:03
holyguyver_sgraham, I know how to use virtualbox, so go ahead & ask away :)00:03
hari_seldon99hi. I'm trying to boot the kubuntu hrdy cd in my 64-bit machine but it just drops me to a busyboz shell and does nothing00:04
Odd-rationaleepimeth: thanks for that!00:04
epimeth/join #kubuntu-offtopic00:04
epimethare you kidding me?00:04
jillif you want to talk here 355774229, it is my icq00:04
epimethdid yahoo just give you my password???00:04
epimethholy hell00:04
nosrednaekimhari_seldon99: had the smae problem... I ended up upgrading00:04
shane2peruepimeth: language please00:04
simulashane2peru... assuming i replace the existing /usr and /home at root.  is there anything in the other directories that is needed to run the apps i installed on the first box?00:04
hari_seldon99upgrading to what?00:04
shane2perujill: I don't icq00:04
shane2perusimula: yes the whole root filesystem, if those programs are not installed on the second box they won't run00:05
nosrednaekimhari_seldon99: from gutsy to hardy00:05
jilloh, then jillsmtbioskop@mail.ru00:05
hari_seldon99I am talking aout the hardy cd tself00:05
nosrednaekimhari_seldon99: I know... it seems to have some problem with some machines00:05
hari_seldon99any boot toptions that can fix it?00:06
hari_seldon99*options00:06
jillshane2peru, it was my email00:06
holyguyver_Audacity is for some reason not producing sound in Hardy, is it because of PulseAudio, & how do I fix it, or is there a work around for it?.00:06
nosrednaekimnot that I know of00:06
nosrednaekimholyguyver_: are you running kde?00:06
hari_seldon99drat00:06
simulaso shane2peru... is there no way to isolate the applications from the os install?00:06
holyguyver_No, I am not, but I asked in #Ubuntu & no one answered00:06
nosrednaekimsimula: yes... install them to /opt00:06
holyguyver_I am running Gnome00:07
nosrednaekimholyguyver_: I'm sorry, we don't support gnome here.00:07
nosrednaekimwhich includes pulse00:07
simulanosrednaekim... thanks for the help... i'll look that up00:07
holyguyver_I am not asking for Gnome support :p00:07
holyguyver_Pulse is a Gnome thing?00:07
nosrednaekimits a ubuntu thing... we use arts or phonon here00:07
holyguyver_O alright, thank you00:08
nosrednaekimholyguyver_: you can ask on the ubuntuforums00:08
holyguyver_I have noticed for months that I cannot get an answer in the #ubuntu channel, I think there is too many people in that channel asking questions, I think that perhaps it should be split into 2 channels.00:09
nosrednaekimyeah.... there is far too many people00:09
nosrednaekimnot sure what they can do about it00:09
tempestI was asking earlier about my screen going black when i logout of kubuntu and assuming that it is something to do with my nvidia card.  would there be anything in my xorg.conf file that would cause that ? or is it something else ?00:11
[mad]Berry|Lappyok wifi headache is almost over but i hit a wall knetworkmanager now sees the card but finds no network?00:11
jillgood bye, kubuntu irc, thanks00:11
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[mad]Berry|Lappynow what? i'm stuck00:12
nosrednaekim[mad]Berry|Lappy: ok... try this... "iwlist <device name> scan"\00:12
nosrednaekimand see if that returns anything00:12
nosrednaekimwhere device name is ath0, wlan0, etc00:12
[mad]Berry|Lappy ath0      No scan results00:13
nosrednaekimso its not a knetworkmanager problem00:14
[mad]Berry|Lappyok00:14
nosrednaekim[mad]Berry|Lappy: is your wifi switch on?00:14
[mad]Berry|Lappydon't have a wifi swith i'm on a Toshiba A205-S582500:15
[mad]Berry|Lappyit has an fn fuction button but when i hit the wifi nothing happens00:16
[mad]Berry|Lappyfunction*00:16
nosrednaekimhate laptops like that :P00:16
[mad]Berry|Lappyyeah i'm starting to hate them too lol00:16
nosrednaekimok, could I have your "lspci | grep Ethernet"00:16
Qsterwhats a good kde partition manager?00:16
[mad]Berry|Lappysure00:17
nosrednaekimQster: qtparted?00:17
Qsterthansk00:17
nosrednaekimor.... systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions00:17
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[mad]Berry|Lappydo you also want "lshw | grep atheros?00:18
nosrednaekimnope.00:18
nosrednaekimyou can paste thew two lines here BTW00:18
[mad]Berry|Lappyyeah i know for the rest we use the paste bin00:18
nosrednaekimyep00:19
[mad]Berry|Lappy05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)00:19
nosrednaekimoh yech....00:19
nosrednaekimthis is a laptop made in the past year or so?00:20
[mad]Berry|Lappyi also already installed the svn r2756 version of madwifi00:20
[mad]Berry|Lappyyeah prob just bought it yesterday00:20
nosrednaekimlol :)00:20
nosrednaekimok... I do not believe madwifi supports this chipset00:20
nosrednaekim(as I have one in another laptops)00:21
[mad]Berry|Lappyo geesh00:21
nosrednaekimyou have to use ndiswrapper00:21
nosrednaekimwhich is far simpler anyway IMO00:21
[mad]Berry|Lappyargh noooo ok i'll setup ndiswrapper thanks for you help00:21
nosrednaekimyou know how to do that?00:21
[mad]Berry|Lappyyep00:21
nosrednaekimok.. make sure you blacklist ath_pci...00:22
[mad]Berry|Lappyyeah I know made that mestake a year or so ago with my linksys00:22
nosrednaekimok, cool :)00:22
nosrednaekimgood luck00:22
[mad]Berry|Lappythanks00:22
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sgrahamholymoly: are you the one said you use virtualbox?00:28
Jsn0327Everytime that I click on something in dolphin file explorer, i get the error "The desktop entry file /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop has an invalid menu entry "AddAsPodcast" Does anyone know how i can fix this?00:29
nosrednaekimJsn0327: saw that once before..00:31
tempestjsn0327 i've had that happen  and i've had it happen with bookmark file......  sorry i havent looked for the fix yet i just avoid moving mouse over that file00:31
jhutchinsJsn0327: Yes, stop trying to run beta test software.00:31
nosrednaekimJsn0327: you could always just delete the file00:31
Jsn0327i'm not running any beta test software00:32
Jsn0327it happens when i click on any file in dolphin, i get the error twice.  I press ok, it comes back, press ok again and it opens the file that i'm trying to open00:32
tempestI get that when i scroll over an .html   jsn032700:33
Jsn0327how do you fix it?00:34
Gibus_Hi ! I can't find where my kmix is: it is not in /usr/bin nor in /usr/sbin, so I don't know how to create a link to it00:34
tempestJsn0327 i dont know  only time it happens is when there is .html in the folder00:34
nosrednaekimGibus_: "type kmix"00:34
Gibus_great thanks !!00:34
nosrednaekimand its in /usr/bin for me00:35
nosrednaekimunless you are running kde400:35
Gibus_I am indeed00:35
Gibus_I didnt know this type function, quite useful !00:35
nosrednaekim /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kmix then00:35
tempestjsn0327 there is something on the forums about that bug00:36
tempestjsn0327 did you find a fix ?  I just fixed mine00:43
Jsn0327no how did you do it?00:43
tempestok i opened this file to edit it /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop00:44
Jsn0327ok...00:46
tempestthen i added  in                   Exec=dcop amarok playlistbrowser addPodcast %u00:47
tempestand now you can right click the .html and it gives you the option to add as podcast00:47
Jsn0327does it matter where in the file you add that line?00:49
tempesti put it before the last line i think00:49
Jsn0327tempest: That fixed it! Thank you.  where did you find that information at?00:52
tempestit was from launchpad00:52
Jsn0327thanks00:53
tempestjsn0327 it just so happened i remembered it  happening when i was adding my bookmark folder   no problem00:53
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maduserhow do I switch back to the kd3 kdm?01:08
Jucatomaduser: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm01:10
maduserthanks01:10
navetzcan someone help me, k3b wont let me burn a audio cd with mp3's, but I use to be able to do this before.01:11
lalahello! I need some help I just installed Hardy but I have no sound...can someone walk me through this?01:11
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BluesKajnavetz, have you added the medibuntu repository to your sources.list , if so then you need to install libdvdcss2.01:18
navetzBluesKaj: thanks01:18
BluesKaj!medibuntu | navetz01:18
ubottunavetz: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org01:18
shane2perudoes anyone know if there is a way to make kmail display emails with html for known contacts?01:22
Lord_Drachenblutshane2peru: good question I have kinda been wondering the same thing myself01:23
shane2peruit is kind of annoying to not have known messages displayed properly and always click to display. :)01:24
stequbu Hi! my updated fresh install of Hardy Heron started screwing with me01:25
stequbuAt boot it fails to do the Routine drive check at 4%01:25
BluesKajnavetz, also install libk3b2-mp3 and libxine1-ffmpeg, for burning mp3 and other audio and video codecs with K3B01:26
stequbuand unless i hit ESC before it gets there it halts and then it needs a reboot01:26
stequbu If I hit ESC the system boots normally01:26
stequbuhow would you go about with such an Issue?01:27
BluesKajstequbu, what routine drive check ?01:27
Daisuke_Idostequbu: that's probably not a good thing - it sounds like the drive has an issue01:27
steqububefore login screen I when the name of the system appears01:27
Daisuke_IdoBlueDevil: fsck01:27
stequbuDaisuke_Ido : what tool would you use to try to repair it?01:28
stequbuit is in Ext2 format01:28
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: fsck (whoops, wrong person originally)01:29
BluesKajif it's checking the drive after a large number off boots (usually about every 30-35 startups or so then let it run thru the check without interuption , it takes about 5 mins but then it won't do it again for another 30 .01:29
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: but if it completely hangs at 4% every time, that could indicate the drive has some issues01:29
stequbuDaisuke_Ido: , exactly01:30
BluesKajhe didn't say it hangs01:30
stequbu[02:27] stequbu: and unless i hit ESC before it gets there it halts and then it needs a reboot01:30
stequbu:)01:31
stequbuso after the check ceases operation would you launch fsck ?01:31
Daisuke_Idoif it's the root filesystem you may have to boot from a livecd and run fsck, i don't know if you can once you're logged in (or at least fix errors)01:32
BluesKajdual boot , stequbu ?01:32
stequbunope01:33
tzd_i can't write to an external usb hdd that's connected to a router. I can see it and browse the drive via samba but not write files to it, creating folders works. he permissions are wrong but how do i add a user or make it writeable please? It's in ext3 format01:33
stequbuDaisuke_Ido : I'll try doing it from LiveCD01:33
stequbuDaisuke_Ido : what would such a command look like?01:34
BluesKajtzd_, can yousee it if you launch konq and type smb:/ , in the addressbar ?01:34
tzd_eeh let me rephrase one bit ;P Please leave out the whole sentence stating the permissions are wrong01:34
tzd_BluesKaj: no. I had major issues with that before but i was told to use smb4k or something similar and that worked01:35
Daisuke_Idostequbu: most likely fsck /dev/sda101:36
stequbuok I ran the fsck and there'a whole bunch of DRDY ERR whatever it is01:36
Daisuke_Idostequbu: sudo fdisk -l01:37
Daisuke_Idothat's a lowercase L01:37
stequbuDaisuke_Ido: , also errors reading blocks and had to do Forced rewrites01:37
BluesKajok tzd_ , try this in the terminal (as long as youre behind a firewalled router or gateway) and arent too worried about LAN security , sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt , and then , sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount01:37
stequbuDaisuke_Ido: , what could be the reason for this fuck-up ?01:38
Daisuke_Idoplease watch your langueage, and it could be a failing drive01:39
Daisuke_Idobut i'm not sure about that, don't quote me01:39
BluesKaj!language | stequbu01:39
ubottustequbu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.01:39
stequbuSorry bout that, the drive is completely new01:40
tzd_BluesKaj: hmm when trying the first cmd it says it can't access /usr/bin/smbmnt - the file or folder does not exist01:40
Daisuke_Idostequbu: try sudo fdisk -l01:40
Daisuke_Idoand pastebin the output01:40
stequbuit is currently doing a fsck without -l how should I break the process?01:41
Daisuke_Idolet it run through01:42
BluesKajtzd_, do you have both samba and smb4k installed ?01:42
tzd_BluesKaj: yes01:43
BluesKajok01:43
stequbuDaisuke_Ido : what does fdisk -l do?01:43
Daisuke_Idoit lists all of your partitions and the filesystem used by each01:44
tzd_BluesKaj: I've got swat installed too... can i uninstall that since I don't use it?01:44
BluesKajtzd_, dunno , haven't used smb4k for a couple of versions since samba seems to work better with konq01:45
stequbuDaisuke_Ido : how can one check or test a drive if it is ok before doing any important stuff on it?01:46
BluesKajtzd_, since 7.0401:46
Daisuke_Idofsck helps, but other than that, i'm not entirely sure01:46
tzd_BluesKaj: I'd much rather use konq or Krusader but i just can't get it to work with samba... perhaps i should reinstall all samba related packages?01:47
Qsterany idea why konqueror would crash when using myspace? i had it working on another computer01:47
tzd_just tried with a virtual windows xp machine and that one can write. I suppose my samba is wrong/defect... will I be alright reinstalling it from scratch or will i face severe errors etc?01:55
tzd_hmm nevermind, I'll give it a go and come back if i mess it up completely :)01:56
BluesKajdunno about VMs01:56
Qsteranyone use konversation?01:58
nosrednaekimyes Qster01:58
Qsterknow the wait command?01:58
Qsteror /timer?01:58
nosrednaekimwait?01:58
nosrednaekimnope01:59
Qstersleep command?01:59
Qster:P01:59
nosrednaekim /away ?01:59
Qsterneed a command to be sent after a couple secs of connecting01:59
fale_hi02:09
NickPrestahi fale_02:09
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falesomeone have tried kubuntu-ppc on imac g3?02:10
stequbuI was thinking about was setting up VNC so that it would be accessible also on login screen. Do you have any experiences with that?02:12
Kloplop321I tried.. never could get it to work :S02:19
belzebubwhat program can i use to see a difference between 2 text files?02:19
stequbuKloplop321: yeah can't figure it out too02:20
frogonwheelskompare / kdiff302:20
stequbuKloplop321 : actaully setting up a good VNC server is easier ion Windows (sic!)02:20
belzebubare these with gui?02:20
frogonwheelsyep02:20
belzebubalright , thanks02:21
Ryujonhello...can someone help me connect to another server?02:23
kgxi have a problem with firefox and thunderbird in dual screen. whenever i click the menus, the appears on the other screen. it only happens this way from one screen, if i drag it across to the external one, it works fine. how do i fix this?02:27
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Kloplop321kgk, that is VERY odd :S02:33
Kloplop321kgx, odd...02:34
Kloplop321I use 2 screens on this computer.. I have not had that problem..02:34
kgxi *think* it only happened since i installed hardy and only happens with thunderbird/firefox. bug in gecko maybe?02:35
Kloplop321I use 8.04 upgrade.. but I would think the menus would still stay in their own environment02:36
kuroryuuI've had a similar problem, but that was with compiz and multiple desktops and it happened with any menu, not sure if it's related02:36
BluesKajI quit thunderbird , it's broken on my setup, links don't launch the default browser ...tried all kinds of advice and fixes but no luck02:37
Kloplop321does compize work in kubuntu yet without emerald crashing when loading the theme?02:37
Kloplop321Compiz*02:37
kuroryuuI've been using compiz and emerald since gutsy came out02:37
kuroryuuno problems whatsoever02:37
MachinTrucChoseditto02:38
MachinTrucChosemust be a driver thing02:38
BluesKaj!eyecandy02:38
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy02:38
Kloplop321in gutsy it always killed over when emerald tried to load a theme02:38
Kloplop321I have not tried it in my KDE4 environment though02:39
Kloplop321well in 6.06 it worked for me then...02:39
kuroryuuI'm using nvidia-glx-new with an 8500GT if that helps02:39
Kloplop321I am using that driver as well, as the normal nvidia general driver cannot use the Open GL properly02:40
kgxapparently it is a bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314279 . works after i restart firefox/thunderbird02:41
ubottuMozilla bug 314279 in GFX: Mac "drop down/context menus show up on the primary screen not over the window in two/dual/multiple screens/monitors/displays setup" [Normal,Verified: fixed]02:41
MachinTrucChosecan someone help me? Anytime I mouse over a window, it takes focus. I cannot "hide" a window by clicking another window behind it. I looked in Settings > Window Behavior and my Focus policy is "Click", not "Focus Follows Mouse". What could be causing this?02:44
Kloplop321I am installing Compiz again, hopefully it works..02:45
Kloplop321are you in compiz?02:45
MachinTrucChoseMe? Yeah, why? You think it's a plugin?02:46
Kloplop321it may be compiz it did weird things like that to me..02:46
Kloplop321when in beryl in 6.06 anyway..02:47
MachinTrucChoseThe only ones I have checked are Enhanced Zoom Desktop, Resize Window, and Application Switcher. THe most likely culprit would be AS, and even after I just disabled it the problem is still there.02:48
MachinTrucChoseI'll try restarting X02:48
Kloplop321ok02:49
MachinTrucChoseok, resetting X didn't fix it02:49
Kloplop321well I aw going te try to start compiz..02:50
MachinTrucChosegood luck02:50
Kloplop321well... I think it killed over, but at least it restored kdm...02:51
Kloplop321Checking for Xgl: not present \n Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0322 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) \n02:53
Kloplop321Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.02:53
Kloplop321Checking for non power of two support: present.02:53
Kloplop321Checking for Composite extension: not present.02:53
Kloplop321aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/kwin02:53
Kloplop321what is this "Composite" extention?02:54
Kloplop321well this sucks...02:55
frogonwheelscompiz doesn't work on my ati02:55
* frogonwheels shrugs02:56
tgillespie_frogonwheels didnt ati fix it in the latest drivers?02:56
tgillespie_frogonwheels or some recent ones anyway02:56
frogonwheelspossibly - will sias02:56
tgillespie_frogonwheels what card is it?02:56
frogonwheelserm Radeon .. 9200? possibly?02:57
tgillespie_frogonwheels ooo, that should work with the opensource ones i believe.....02:57
frogonwheelsI don't really _need_ compiz - but it's always nice to have a play :)02:58
Kloplop321I played with it befor, it needs some beefy power02:58
willin kubuntu when you pop in a disk a dialog box pops up asking you what you want to do like in vista.  Does anyone know how to enable this in ubuntu gnome02:58
kuroryuuwill: try asking in #ubuntu02:59
tgillespie_frogonwheels it is pretty yes :)02:59
willi did no answer02:59
willi thought since i saw it running kubuntu i´d ask here03:00
kuroryuuwill: maybe try #gnome then?03:00
willwill do03:00
willthank you03:00
kuroryuuno problem03:01
asobianyone have a maxtor one touch 4 that they have no trouble auto mounting?03:02
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Mr_Sonomaanyone else having problems with Kaffine playing VCDs?03:06
tim__I want to pull a frame out of a video03:11
tim__any sugestions as to an app?03:11
Kloplop321no luck here03:13
BiteyBiteis it possible to install kubuntu 8.04 kde 3 0vers0ion after installing kde4?03:22
kuroryuuBiteyBite: install the kubuntu-desktop package, that'll install the standard kde3 install03:22
BiteyBitekuroryuu: would that install kubuntu kde 3 package or fully optioned kde3 package because there are alot of things in that i dont dont....i like the kubuntu kde3 package?03:24
BiteyBite! kde 4 help03:25
ubottuFactoid kde 4 help not found03:25
BiteyBite!kde403:25
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde403:25
kuroryuuBiteyBite: the kubuntu-desktop package only installs what you'd get from a base install, if you want everything in kde3 then install the kde package03:26
BiteyBitekuroryuu: thanx mate, appreciated03:27
kuroryuuno problem03:27
belzebubwhich file does fglrx use for monitor settings?03:38
belzebubbesides xorg.conf03:38
frogonwheelsthat should be it.03:39
belzebubwhere are all the fglrx settings?03:39
frogonwheelsbelzebub:  in the appropriate section.03:40
kuroryuubelzebub: you can try the fglrx-control package, might do what you want03:40
belzebubfrogonwheels: what?03:42
belzebubkuroryuu: is that the control panel?03:42
BluesKajbelzebub, are you using the default restricted drivers?03:44
holycowhi guys03:45
holycowany rumours on 4.1 beta making it to repos?03:45
BluesKajdunno holycow, haven't heard anything03:46
holycowno prob, just curious03:46
kuroryuuholycow: kde site says packages are in the works now03:46
holycowi've been playing with the latest in kubuntu and boy am i starting to like k403:46
holycowkuroryuu: thanks03:46
kuroryuubelzebub: apt says it is03:46
holycowi love how some of the effects in4.0.4 started to work really well for example03:46
holycowi'm so stoked03:47
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alexeyhi everybody)03:59
alexeyDoes anybody use 2 monitors)?03:59
NickPrestaalexey, I use a twinview setup, yes04:00
holycowtwinveiw as well04:00
alexeyNickPresta: cant understand why it doesnt work04:01
NickPrestaalexey, I can't either until you explain what the problem is :)04:01
alexeyi select x server display conf04:01
alexeyconfigure04:01
alexeyTwinview is inactive04:02
alexeyNvidia 8800 - Envy install04:02
NickPrestaalexey, select it where?04:02
alexeyfull path)04:02
alexeyk-menu - system - n-vidia x server settings04:03
NickPrestaalexey, I mean what application are you using to setup twinview?04:03
alexeyi dont know what app i am using)04:04
alexeyi can share some shots)04:04
NickPrestaalexey, give me a minute. I'm going to search for some help04:06
alexeykk sorry)04:06
tempestalexey do you have the nvidia x-server settings thing ?04:06
alexeyyes)04:06
alexeyi am04:06
mrksbrdneed help getting my broadcom wireless to work.....just need inf driver but unable to find it anywhere04:06
alexeymrksbrd: use win drivers04:07
kuroryuumrksbrd: what kind of card is it?04:08
mrksbrdi'll try but been unlucky so far.....i know they have a "drivers.zip" somewhere in ubuntu forums but can't seem to find it tonight04:08
alexeytempest: this one?04:08
mrksbrdbroadcom bcm432804:08
mrksbrdwifi card04:08
Odd-rationalemrksbrd: try this: http://freewebs.com/ronserver/bcm43xx.tar.gz04:08
tempestalexey  yes thats what i was talking about04:09
alexeytempest: but flags are inactive04:09
mrksbrdcan't tar......don't understand the whole process04:09
alexeytempest: i dont know why04:09
alexey((04:10
tempestalexey are both already hooked up ?04:11
* se7en__ is puzzled ... half of the time i don't even understand the question in this #04:11
tempestcan you see if it will detect the displays ?04:11
alexeythe answer wath easy)04:11
mrksbrdODD....won't work04:11
alexeyheh)04:11
mrmrksbrd in terminal type tar --help its pretty specific04:12
Odd-rationalemrksbrd: did you extreact the tarball?04:12
mrksbrdyea...has a oem3.inf04:12
Odd-rationaletry using ark04:12
alexeytempest: and how to make full screen mode only on one display04:12
mrksbrdsaid it wasn't valid04:12
Odd-rationalemrksbrd: well the .inf file may not be the correct one for you card. try googleing...04:13
mrare you trying to set up a windows driver w/ ndiswrapper  mrksbrd04:14
mrksbrdtried that too....no luck04:14
tempestdid you get it to pick up both alexey ?04:14
mrwhat chipset on the broadcom?04:14
mrksbrdjosephine found a link thru forums yesterday for me but i lost it when pc crashed04:14
mrksbrdBCM432804:15
kuroryuumrksbrd: here's the dell driver, it's an exe but you can just unzip it http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R151517.EXE04:15
mrksbrdused that one too04:15
mrbcwl5.inf?04:15
mrksbrdyup04:15
alexeytempest: yep)04:15
mrksbrdsaid invalid driver or something like that thru ndiswrapper04:16
tempestok cool04:16
mrwhat chipset?04:16
kuroryuumrksbrd: and lspci tells you it's a 4328?04:16
mrksbrdlshw04:17
mrksbrdmr let me see if i can dig any other info up thru the ls command04:18
mrksbrdNetwork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)04:20
mrI just checked the ubuntu forum seems this chipset (4328) is problematic04:22
mrksbrdi had it working yesterday though04:22
mrksbrdthen had to reload linux because of a wrong video driver04:22
mrDid it work or did you just get an active icon?04:23
mrksbrdno it worked.josephine found a link for me on ubuntu forums04:24
mrksbrdit was a file called drivers.zip04:24
mrksbrdhad the inf file in there04:24
mrksbrdinstalled it thru ndiswrapper.04:24
mrI had an earlier bcm that also called for the bcmwl5.inf driver. I never got it working with ndiswrapper but i did with a restricted driver04:24
mrksbrdand was good to go04:24
kuroryuumrksbrd: are you using 64-bit or 32-bit?04:25
mrksbrdhow did u find the restricted?04:25
mrksbrd64bit w/32 bit loaded04:25
kuroryuudid you follow this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61680104:26
mrksbrdwonder if that is the problem04:26
mrksbrdthats the file ....yahooo04:27
mrksbrdi've been searching for hrs04:27
mrksbrdbrb04:27
kuroryuulol, just googled: bcm4328 linux04:27
mrksbrdmy google must be diffewrent ....i typed those exact words04:28
mrthere is a linux special linux04:29
mrgoogle i mean04:29
* mrksbrd kisses kuroryuu's feet04:31
mrksbrdthank you so much04:31
kuroryuuno problem04:32
mrksbrdnow have to go on a seek and destroy for my video card now04:32
mrksbrdwish me luck....thanks again all04:32
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Frederickfolks how do I play rmvb in kubuntu?04:34
chipbuddy i just reinstalled 7.10 on a harddrive with windows xp, and grub was set up just fine. but when i tried to install 8.04 grub would not install properly. what gives?04:37
kuroryuuchipbuddy: did it give you an error? what happens exactly?04:37
chipbuddywhen it gets to the end of the install process it says grub could not be installed. i don't remember an error message, but i'm able to install lilo jsut fine04:38
kuroryuuwhat kind of partitions do you have set up?04:39
kuroryuuFrederick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61635304:40
chipbuddy4 partitions, ntfs primary for windows first, then ext3 for 7.1, swap, and the rest i left open so i could set it up for my home directory04:40
chipbuddynow that i have it all working, can i magically install 8.04 in place of 7.1 and not touch the boot loader?04:41
kuroryuuyou can upgrade to hardy without the cd, yes04:41
dbglt_Hi everyone, I'm trying to set up a printer with kprinter, but for some reason the "Local printer (parallel, serial, USB)" option is greyed out. How do I enable this?04:41
kuroryuuuse update-manager04:41
chipbuddybut if i use the cd it's going to try to mess with grub?04:41
kuroryuuchipbuddy: sudo apt-get install update-manager && sudo update-manager04:43
kuroryuuit should give you an option to upgrade to hardy04:43
chipbuddybut i like the idea of a fresh install with the cd. using the update manager won't give me the exact same results, right?04:43
kuroryuuit may have a few files left over from gutsy that aren't needed, but otherwise the upgrade process is very much the same, not to mention easier04:45
chipbuddyok... i think i'll do that then. but just to satisfy my curiosity, where does grub live? is it on the main o.s. partition? or is there some secret hidden partition?04:47
mrdbglt you need to run as root04:47
chipbuddy!grub04:48
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:48
kuroryuuchipbuddy: most of grub is in the /boot directory, but it installs the bootup code either to the beginning of the hard drive before any partitions or at the beginning of the partition among other places04:48
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mrdbglt  do you understand?04:50
dbglt_mr: I did run as root!04:51
mrdid you open the manager from terminal with sudo?04:51
dbglt_mr: I tried both sudo and kdesu04:52
mrdoes you box see the printer?04:52
dbglt_mr: how do I tell? :\04:52
grendal_primeok my kdm greater just reloads after i input my password in it.04:53
mrhow is the printer attached?04:53
grendal_primenever logs in..gdm works fine04:53
dbglt_mr: by usb04:53
grendal_primeanyone ever run into that?04:53
dbglt_mr: it shows up on dmesg04:53
mrlsusb?04:54
kuroryuugrendal_prime: happened to me once, I think it was because I had a .xsession file in my home directory04:54
dbglt_mr: it's there04:55
mr i'm lost usually if it sees the printer and you run as root it should work, did you check that the printer is compatible?04:56
mrnot a lexmark i hope04:57
dbglt_mr: it's a canon, I've run it before on linux04:58
dbglt_mr: not sure what the problem is, never had that option greyed out before04:58
dbglt_mr: I imagine it's a permissions/cups problem04:58
mrI give Maybe someone else has ideas?04:59
mriv.e got to go to bed it's midnite here and i have to get up early tomorrow sorry mate05:00
kuroryuudbglt_: you could try the cups web interface: http://127.0.0.1:63105:04
dbglt_kuroryuu: yeah, trying that at the moment, it doesn't really help05:06
dbglt_kuroryuu: it seems all setup there, but it just won't print out :\05:07
dbglt_nothing comes out!05:07
karllen1ok so it seems i have doom3 working kinda i run it but the my monitor goes black and tells me out of range 43.2 / 85? what do i do to fix that?05:17
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arrrghhhso i'm not at home right now, but my roomie said my computer is no longer working... i can ssh to it and reboot it, but x11vnc doesn't ever work.  i looked at top and kdm is taking 100% of the processor constantly, and my roomie said the monitor shows nothing - like it's off.  what happened?!?06:12
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frybyehas anybody already installed f-fox rc1 on kub 8.04??06:26
frybye(why the 3b05 is still being offered I don't know...?06:26
BiteyBitefrybye: yes i have same prob06:27
frybyeBiteyBite: hav e you tried manual install of rc1??06:27
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BiteyBitecan any one tell me if i remove kde4 frommy dual kde3 n kde4 install it is goin to affect it adversely?06:28
BiteyBitefrybye: yea flying failure06:28
frybyeI c Bite.. perhaps that is why the rc1 is not being offered...06:28
BiteyBitei cudnt get the darn thing to install properly06:28
frybyeeb5 has problems with my-yahoo for example..06:29
kuroryuuBiteyBite: if you remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop and kde4 and then run apt-get autoremove it will get rid of everything kde4 without affecting kde306:29
belzebubi kepp getting the Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. when running firefox06:30
flaccid_BiteyBite, should be fine06:30
frybyebye for now..06:30
kuroryuuBiteyBite: you may have to run dpkg-reconfigure kdm though and choose kdm06:30
BiteyBitekuroryuu: its saying only 38.5kb of space will be freed after removing kfe406:33
flaccid_thats because its a meta package06:34
kuroryuuBiteyBite: after removing kde4 run apt-get autoremove, it'll get rid of everything kde406:34
BiteyBitekuroryuu: ok thanx06:34
calcmandanhello fellow kubuntu'ers06:46
calcmandanwow, it's dead in here06:49
dhonghello, I'm new to ubutu, I want to start service portmap, how to do06:58
dhongDoes it have a comman like service06:59
lucianI just installed Kubuntu and I am in dire need of assistance with setting up Dual monitors on a nVidia 8500 GT 512MB.. I have the nvidia card set-up kind of.. except my small, 19" flat panel has all the high resolutions available to it (i.e. 1340x1280) but the 32" hdtv only has 1024x768 as highest resolution.. it should be the other way around06:59
navetzhey, does anyone have bugs switching between internet radio and your regular playlist?07:00
navetzok amarok that is07:00
lucianI just installed Kubuntu and I am in dire need of assistance with setting up Dual monitors on a nVidia 8500 GT 512MB.. I have the nvidia card set-up kind of.. except my small, 19" flat panel has all the high resolutions available to it (i.e. 1340x1280) but the 32" hdtv only has 1024x768 as highest resolution.. it should be the other way around07:01
falelucian: I hope you'll be lucky07:01
lucian?/07:02
falelucian: start installing the proprietary drivers and hoping that they works in the right way on your card07:02
falelucian: to install the proprietary drivers, click the green card in your menu bar07:02
luciani did that already07:03
falelucian: ok07:03
navetzcan someone please help me fix my cdrom drive, it is not auto mounting correctly. Can someone show me a defualt fstab value for their cd rom/burner?07:03
falelucian: have you rebooted?07:03
lucianfale, several upon several times trying to switch the resolutions to what they should be07:03
flaccid_navetz, shouldn't need it. hald should automount. check that hald is running and dmesg07:04
falelucian: ok, than now what is the actual situation?07:04
falenavetz: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       007:04
dthackernavetz: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       007:04
navetzfale: how do I check hald is running, also before I use to get hald error messages07:04
flaccid_ps aux | grep hald07:05
lucianFale, the highest resolution available to the HDTV is only 1024x768, and the 19" has all the way up to 1600x1024 (which this resolution should be avail to HDTV NOT the little 19")07:05
falelucian: ok, but which are the resolution that are currently used?07:05
fale*resolutions07:06
luciancurrently the 17" (i was mistaken, its not 19") is at 1280x1024 and the 32" monitor is at 1024x76807:06
navetzfale: how do I check hald is running, also before I use to get hald error messages07:06
navetzsorry for that07:06
navetzdouble post07:06
falenavetz:  ps aux | grep hald07:06
flaccid_navetz, ps aux | grep hald07:06
navetzhere is my fstab line: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 iso9660 noauto 0 007:07
flaccid_navetz, should see something like hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/scd0 (every 2 sec) plus other processes07:07
falelucian: ok, then the 32 is ok, and the 17 is lower, isn't it?07:07
lucianno, the 32" has a lower res than the 17"07:07
lucian32" = 1024x76807:07
navetzflaccid_: yes I see that07:07
lucian17" = 1280x102407:07
falelucian: yes ok, but now is well configured the 32, isn't it?07:08
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navetzshould I change my fstab line to match the ones you guys have?07:08
flaccid_navetz, insert a cdrom and see what happens in dmesg07:08
navetzflaccid_: can it be a blank cd?07:08
falelucian: try to copy your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on http://pastebin.ca/07:08
lucianthe 32" should have higher resolutions available (as on vista where I have it set at 1400x<cant remember>)07:08
flaccid_navetz, well if file /dev/scd0 exists then it should be working07:09
flaccid_navetz, yes07:09
falelucian: do you know how to copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf?07:09
lucianyes, give me a sec to do so07:09
navetzflaccid_: here is what dmesg says07:09
navetz[118219.953786] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!07:09
falelucian: ok ;)07:09
flaccid_navetz, its working. now you should get a popup as well.07:09
navetzok I see a cd rom button, I click it and I get this error message in konqueror07:10
flaccid_although it should also say blank cd message. check that your optical drive supports the media type07:10
lucianhttp://pastebin.ca/103381907:10
falelucian: ok07:10
falelucian: 1 sec07:10
lucianfale: k thnx07:10
navetzflaccid_: ' could not start process Unable to create io-slave: \n klauncher said: Unknown protocol ". \n .   '07:11
flaccid_navetz, did you google that error yet?07:11
navetzflaccid_: no I can't copy and paste the message, it won't let me highlight it, I just typed it out.07:11
BiteyBite!kde407:11
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde407:11
flaccid_navetz, check google and also try a different disk. check media type is supported by your drive07:12
navetzflaccid_: ok I am trying a blank dvd (I use to burn on these all the time before the cdrom stoped working)07:12
flaccid_ok07:13
navetzflaccid_: Is scd0 suppose to be accessable by root?07:14
BiteyBitei installed kde3 after kde4 and now i have tried all diff commandes but i cant seem to get rid of kde4.......what shall i do?07:14
navetzsorry I meant to ask if the premissions were suppose to be set as root:cdrom07:15
flaccid_navetz, yes it should be something like brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-05-28 01:47 /dev/scd007:15
BiteyBitekde4 doesnt seeeem to go away07:15
flaccid_BiteyBite, pastebin dpkg -l | grep kde4 please07:15
navetzflaccid_: ok thats what mine looks like: also here is my dmesg with the blank dvd- [118479.767077] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!07:15
flaccid_navetz, anything else?07:15
falelucian: the problem is that your pc doesn't see biggest resolution07:15
falelucian: it can be that the nvidia drivers can not go higher07:16
navetzflaccid_: nope07:16
lucianfale, ... crap.. but i can use the higher res's on the small monitor07:16
flaccid_fale, pastebin xrandr -q please07:16
lucianfale, and they are both utilizing the same g-card07:16
faleflaccid_: ?07:16
navetzflaccid_: I put a cd in thats not blank, when I try to open with konqueror I get permission denied error.07:17
flaccid_fale, i would like to look at the resolutions07:17
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flaccid_navetz, what does it say in dmesg then?07:17
faleflaccid_: http://pastebin.ca/103381907:17
josefina__HOLAAA07:17
josefina__HOLA07:17
flaccid_!caps | josefina__07:17
ubottujosefina__: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:17
navetzflaccid_: nothing new, same thing it said before I put the cd in.07:17
flaccid_fale, no sorry xrandr -q07:17
faleflaccid_: I don't have problems, lucian has problems ;)07:18
flaccid_sorry07:18
flaccid_im on windows irc client :(07:18
lucian:(07:18
faleflaccid_: np ;)07:18
navetzflaccid_: when I go to /media and do ls -l everything is owned by  root:root07:19
navetzflaccid_: should I chown stuff or is that correct?07:19
home_new Kubuntu ok?07:19
BiteyBiteflaccid_: http://pastebin.ca/103382807:19
flaccid_navetz, correct perms are drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root    4096 2008-03-05 17:57 cdrom007:19
home_thinking of d/loading it07:20
flaccid_lucian, pastebin xrandr -q please07:20
MRoyhi07:20
MRoyhow is kubuntu 8.04?07:20
luciank07:20
navetzflaccid_: humm, is it possible that I need to add my user with the cdrom group or something like that?07:20
home_MRoy, yes ,,is it better than the previous?07:20
flaccid_BiteyBite, go into adept manager and search for kde4 and remove all of those..07:21
flaccid_navetz, should be by default, if its not in the command groups add the user to it07:21
frybye_hmmm hours ago I logged in here with my usual nick    frybye  (which I can identify for of course..) but here on a different machine/location it says my nick is being used by somebody else.. (yes ME a few hours ago I assume!!) what can one do ...?07:21
lucianflaccid_,http://pastebin.ca/103383207:21
flaccid_!ghost | frybye_07:21
ubottufrybye_: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>07:21
frybye_this may not look like a kubuntu problem but it is hindering the propper use of the #kubuntu channel imho...07:22
navetzflaccid_: ok I am going to try changing my fstab then ill be back, thanks.07:22
frybye_excellent!!!07:22
flaccid_navetz, not sure what this has to do with fstab but ok..07:22
alebocohi guys, since i upgraded from kubuntu gutsy to hardy, my battery life is really short... any idea or similar experience?07:22
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frybyethanks a lot flaccid - you are a star... hehe07:23
flaccid_lucian, hmm thats a pretty complex xorg.conf . if you are running 1 big desktop, your virtual size is too small: #07:24
flaccid_        Virtual     1280 102407:24
flaccid_frybye, np07:24
lucianhow do i change it07:24
frybyeso who has managed to install firefox rc1 in kub. 3.04???07:24
frybyee e 8.0407:24
flaccid_lucian, just edit xorg.conf manually07:25
lucianflaccid_, thnkx :)07:25
flaccid_np07:25
flaccid_lucian, also look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for errors and warnings mainly about the resolutions it ends up choosing and virtual size07:26
luciank, i will07:26
lucianthnk u07:26
flaccid_np07:27
navetzflaccid_ I am getting new errors now07:29
navetzFeatures only avaliable with HAL.07:30
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navetzAlso I just noticed that my drive seems to not be mounted or something.07:30
flaccid_navetz, it will only mount if it can07:31
navetzflaccid_: ok ill try07:31
flaccid_navetz, but you could try mounting it manually with sudo mount /media/cdrom007:31
flaccid_navetz, you might wanna make sure fstab supports iso9660 and udf on that device: /dev/scd0                       /media/cdrom1           udf,iso9660     user,noauto,exec 0       007:32
navetzflaccid_: I mounted here is my message: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only07:32
flaccid_sweet07:32
flaccid_now check mount and ls /media/cdrom007:32
navetzflaccid_: ahh I see stuff07:33
flaccid_navetz, see you mounted under root atm. you might need more than just cdrom group. here is the default admin groups, you might need plugdev:  adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev sambashare07:33
BiteyBitewhere do all the files go when we download em n then again dpkg-reconfigure em07:34
flaccid_BiteyBite, /var/cache/apt ?07:34
navetzflaccid_: I don't know how to check if I am mounted under root07:34
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flaccid_navetz, check mount command and groups to see your groups07:35
flaccid_navetz, and ls -l /media/cdrom0 to see current own when its mounted..07:35
navetzflaccid_: when I type mount, this is what I get for the cdrom:  /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev)07:35
navetzflaccid_: everything is owned by root.07:36
flaccid_navetz, now check ls -l /media/cdrom0 to see owner07:36
navetzflaccid_: root is owner.07:36
flaccid_navetz, yeah, i mean in this case its read only so it doesn't matter obviously as long as user can read. but you might wanna add user to plugdev which could be what is missing for hal user mounts..07:36
navetzflaccid_: do I do this through the a GUI somewhere?07:37
flaccid_and when you change your groups, you have to logout then back in after07:37
flaccid_yeah system settings is easiest07:37
flaccid_kuser is nice too07:37
Sup3rw0pHello,, I'm having a problem with my second hard drive. It asks for a password when I want to mount it.07:37
Sup3rw0pI just want it to be mounted when I start the computer.07:38
flaccid_Sup3rw0p, what asks for the password?07:38
Sup3rw0pkubuntu07:38
Sup3rw0pdolphin?07:38
flaccid_what kind of password is this ? kwallet?07:38
flaccid_is it a normal ide disk?07:38
Sup3rw0pNo, the same window that pops up when I use adept installer07:38
Sup3rw0psata07:38
BiteyBitehttp://pastebin.ca/1033839     how do i get rid of these files?07:39
Sup3rw0pI know theres some fstab command07:39
Sup3rw0pBut I can't find it on the net again.07:39
flaccid_the question is, what password could it be. disks don't have passwords. pastebin your /etc/fstab07:39
Sup3rw0pIts the same password I use to log in07:39
flaccid_Sup3rw0p, what exactly does the dialog say?07:39
navetzflaccid_: ok I am not sure how this is suppose to work, do I add cdrom to my default account?07:40
flaccid_navetz, select the user and goto additional groups and put in cdrom and plugdev07:40
Sup3rw0pCant recall offhand, like password needed to access disk. I type in the password and I can see the contents, I just want it to mount it on startup.07:41
navetzflaccid_: ok, I put that in secondary groups right?07:41
flaccid_yep sorry secondary07:41
flaccid_Sup3rw0p, i need to know what it says to find out what is asking it. also pastebin /etc/fstab07:41
flaccid_Sup3rw0p, not enough information yet :(07:41
navetzflaccid_: plugdev and cdrom are not options, however it does say that I am suppsoe to be able to use the cdrom07:42
BiteyBiteflaccid_: http://pastebin.ca/1033839     how do i get rid of these files?07:42
flaccid_navetz, they should be options. this needs to be under admin mode or root to change. use kuser otherwise. check that the groups exists with grep -i cdrom /etc/group07:43
navetzflaccid_: weird, also now pressing the button to eject the cdrom doesn't work.07:44
navetzflaccid_: ok ill look07:44
Sup3rw0phttp://pastebin.com/d515c807e07:44
flaccid_BiteyBite, dpkg --purge packagename07:44
Sup3rw0pI would have to reboot to see the password dialog again.07:44
flaccid_Sup3rw0p, which is the device in question?07:44
navetzflaccid_: here is the result of that: cdrom:x:24:haldaemon,navetz07:45
flaccid_navetz, see the group does obviously exist07:45
navetzflaccid_: ok ill try kuser07:45
Sup3rw0pIt would be /dev/sdb1 I guess?07:45
flaccid_Sup3rw0p, check in sudo fdisk -l and let me know07:45
flaccid_Sup3rw0p, and let me know the mountpoint07:46
navetzflaccid_: cdrom and plugdev are set07:47
navetzflaccid_: ill do soem googling, thanks for all the help.07:47
Sup3rw0pSorry, I'm not too sure what the mountpoint is.07:48
Sup3rw0pJust kinda installed kubuntu like a week ago.07:48
cantharesanyone know how to remap the keyboard.. my question mark and at sign come up with different returns07:48
flaccid_Sup3rw0p, thats cool just the device will be fine07:48
Sup3rw0pDisk /dev/sdb: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes07:49
flaccid_thats not in fstab which is why its asking07:49
flaccid_i'll brb!07:49
frybyeA somewhat general question - even when one has optimized the fonts/f-sizes etc.. can Kubuntu equal/surpass the quality of presentation of text etc that one expects comming from windows...?07:51
frybye- put another way - is there a true-type system or similar avail for Linux?07:51
frybye<- I hope folks agree that such questions are legitimate and no way meant as an attack/flame against Kubuntu...>07:53
pidushow can i force adept not to update a certain package?07:54
ubunturospidus: if there's some form of dependency for an app, it'll update relevant packages07:56
ubunturospidus: alternatively, you could right click and cancel changes, for any inadvertant updates, you may haave selected07:56
BiteyBitehow do i change splash screen, when kde is logging me in, i dont like the default screen there?07:57
pidusubunturos: but can't i disable update of a certain package. I mean, whenever I update using apt-get can't i tell it not to update a certain package.07:57
ubunturosBiteyBite: use Control Centre to change it07:57
pidusI remember there was some means to do it in ubuntu. We added a # or something before the package name in the package list file. I don't remember the exact means.07:58
ubunturospidus: well, that's what i said. If there's some form of dependency, you can't stop update of a 'single' / 'particluar' package (if that's what you wanted to do)07:58
BiteyBiteubunturos: which option in control centre?07:58
ubunturosBiteyBite: Appreance and Themes (forgive typos)07:58
pidusubunturos: am not talking about conflict situations. What if i want to keep an older version of say....make...even when a newer version is available (assuming that some other package doesn't need the newer version of make)08:00
ubunturospidus: if I'm not wrong, when you click "Fetch Updates" adept will point out if a package needs update. If you choose not to update it, it won't08:00
pidusubunturos: for example in ubuntu using synaptic you can lock a package and then it won't try to update it.08:01
pidusubunturos: in that case you'll have to check the list of updates, every time you do an update of packages.08:01
ubunturospidus: may be I'm not able to understand your problem well. Perhaps, someone who's reading this conversation, can help.08:02
pidusubunturos: :) i'm googling for it. will write back if i find the means.08:02
pidusubunturos: do you know where is the list of packages stored? just as list of repos is stored in sources.list08:03
pidus*list of installed packages08:03
ubunturospidus: ah, I don't know. the actual packages is stored at /var/cache/apt/archives08:04
pidusubunturos: ok. That I knew :)08:05
ubunturospidus: man dpkg-query, should probably indicate that08:05
pidusok08:06
navetzdoes anyone here know how HAL works. I amm getting Feature only available with HAL error messages and mounting issues.08:06
pidusubunturos: cool, its in /var/lib/dpkg/status08:07
ubunturospidus: hmm, ok.08:07
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baudthiefHelp... When I try to start my XP vm under virtualbox, I'm getting this: Hard disk '/home/baudthief/.VirtualBox/VDI/XP SP2.vdi' with UUID {728e2be0-ad86-40e3-b48b-9c456847f67b} is already attached to a machine with UUID {bcb1d920-e458-40fc-b093-5dabb66b997c} (see '/home/baudthief/.VirtualBox/Machines/XP SP2/XP SP2.xml').08:24
baudthiefam I screwed?08:24
pidusubunturos: you can lock a package (i.e. prevent its upgrade at the next dist-upgrade) by opening aptitude...and putting a = on the desired package08:30
pidusubunturos: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html08:31
ubunturospidus: hmm, thanks. (I'm not sure, If I need it though) But thanks, anyway08:32
pidusubunturos: :) thanks for helping me find it.08:32
[mad]Berry|Lappy!wifi08:34
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:34
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alebocohi everybody. i would like to know if it is possible to change the permission of deleted items applet08:41
alebocoso far i'm the user and admin the group08:42
BiteyBitehow do i change splash screen, when kde is logging me in, i dont like the default screen there?08:44
BiteyBitei want that finger prints style loggin me in08:44
se7enBiteyBite: alt+f2 ... kcontrol splash screen ...08:49
BiteyBitese7en: that didnt do anything08:52
se7enBiteyBite: you went to appearance and themes ---> splash sceen and choose fingerprint as a splash screen right08:54
se7enyou can test it there but to see it you have to restart X = ctrl+backspace08:55
BiteyBitese7en: it doesnt show me splash screen option in there, i have all other but splash screen in kcontrol=>appearance & themes=> ***************** but no splash screen08:58
alebocohi guys. i was wandering how to set the right permission to the recent document09:02
alebocoi mean, when i enable it in the k menu, it is always empty09:03
flaccid_i was away for a while. is there outstanding questions?09:08
[mad]Berry|Lappydoes anybody know what "ath0: failed to register sysctls!" this was in /var/log/messages09:11
[mad]Berry|Lappymeans*09:11
flaccid_[mad]Berry|Lappy, what did google say?09:11
[mad]Berry|Lappynothing much09:11
flaccid_sysctl is like a bsd/unix thing so not sure why in linux hmm09:12
flaccid_are you using madwifi?09:12
[mad]Berry|Lappyhuh yeah because this "sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -wd" gave the right output09:14
jaakkomeIs there a way to empty Amarok's playlist with a shell command?09:14
jd_jaakkome: i would say no09:16
jd_jaakkome: you might be able to delete the playlist file if you knew where it was but one command... no09:17
jaakkomeright, I didn't find one from man amarok, but was thinking if there's a easyish workaround09:18
jd_jaakkome: why do you need it?09:18
jaakkomewell, it's not a critical function as such :}09:18
jd_ok09:19
flaccid_[mad]Berry|Lappy, google returns known bugs etc. which is more than nothing much...09:23
flaccid_jaakkome, should be able to with dcop09:23
flaccid_jaakkome, http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/DCOP_Functions_Needed_For_Bemused_Support09:25
jd_well aren't i just always wrong about things.... but i learned something too09:26
flaccid_dbus/dcop is heaps cool for inter-process communication :) but i never remember its capabilities09:27
Giskard_ReventloHi. I had an adept question. Does adept updater have an ignore list. I don't wanna update my mythtv pkgs in my kubuntu frontend09:28
jaakkomethanks, dcop looks very useful for lot of stuff09:28
jaakkome*lots09:28
[mad]Berry|Lappyflaccid_ yeah i see sorry about that have been hacking at this for a couple of hours....09:29
jaakkomethe command was just "dcop amarok playlist clearPlaylist"09:30
jd_well i'm sorry i was wrong... i never heard of it before either... i need to learn how to put that in my programs09:31
flaccid_jaakkome, yep pretty cool eh :)09:31
jaakkomeyeah... I've been using linux for a total of one week now and am really excited about the ability to actually use the command line as an interface09:32
flaccid_yeah its totally useful for all users or at least alt+f2 and run something useful without an interactive shell09:33
jaakkomeokay, I've got another one: I'm having some slight problems with window transparency09:35
jaakkomeactive windows don't always lose their transparency09:35
flaccid_is that with desktop effects of some kind or just normal?09:36
jaakkomejust the kde 3.5.9. normal transparency thing09:36
flaccid_hmm, i guess you could ask in #kde see if they can help or search google09:37
Tm_Tjaakkome: hmmm, KDE3 transparency thing could be bit buggy09:37
jaakkomewell, it's a very minor problem so I guess I'll just ignore it and wait if it goes away at some point when stuff upgrades09:39
jaakkomehappens maybe one time out of 40 when I shift focus and is corrected by shifting focus off and back again09:39
tzdi can't access my samba share via konqueror, krusader etc. It works with smb4k but when i'm on the samba share I'm unable to write files to it. It works however, creating new folders on the disk. Please help anyone?09:40
flaccid_tzd, what OS is the samba server and share on?09:40
tzdflaccid: hmm it's an ipkg os i think... it's on my router and it's included from Asus.09:41
flaccid_well the writing/perms is the responsibility of the samba server so the problem is with the router09:42
flaccid_all the acls etc. are with that server09:42
flaccid_try it in smb4k then show me the entry in mount and an ls -l on the mountpoint09:43
tzdflaccid_: when trying with win xp via vmware I'm able to write perfectly to the hdd?09:46
flaccid_tzd, yeah that doesn't concluded anything.09:47
tzdand I've set the default access for my shares via my routers web gui to : read/write access09:47
tzdflaccid_: ok09:47
flaccid_it may indicate that the samba server doesn't like the requests of some smb/samba clients...09:47
tzdflaccid_: ah i see09:48
flaccid_tzd, this is why you should 1. do what i suggested above and 2. see what the error is with smbclient09:48
tzdflaccid_: about to... tried reinstalling all my samba related packages yesterday thinking that might be the cause. Will start smb4k asap09:49
flaccid_coolio. samba is a beast, but i've conquered it many times. closed firmware on devs like routers doesn't help us :)09:50
samretнеподскажите почему SIM может не запускаться?09:52
samretна 8,04 кубунту09:52
tzdflaccid_: ah nice :) I've actually got an open fw on my router. OLEG it's called. It's just that i was suppose to be able to use the standard asus web gui for samba according to the guide i've followed.09:52
Tm_T!ru | samret09:53
ubottusamret: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke09:53
tzdflaccid_: the mount points on my router are: /dev/discs/disc0/part1 -> /tmp/mnt/disc0_1 and  /dev/discs/disc0/part2 -> /tmp/mnt/disc0_2  I also have a part 3 & 4 where part 3 is the swap and part 4 is mounted on /opt09:54
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tzdflaccid_: ls -l on /tmp/mnt = drwsrwsrwt 6 admin root 4096 May 30 02:53 disc0_1 and drwxrw-rw- 12 1000 root 4096 May 30 06:26 disc0_209:59
nico__hola?10:01
* flaccid_ reads messages10:01
flaccid_tzd, im talking about mounted from the client side10:02
flaccid_tzd, open smb4k, double click on share to mount then check mount in konsole10:03
flaccid_also what model asus and link to oleg?10:03
flaccid_tzd, i have an asus wl-520gc sitting next to me as well10:03
tzdflaccid_: ah ok, thanks for the tip!  model is asus wl-500gP. http://oleg.wl500g.info/10:04
flaccid_well i would be checking the smb.conf or equiv on that firmware for a start as well + the unix perms on the fs itself10:05
tzdflaccid_: //ASUSNET/disc0_1 on /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1 type cifs (rw,mand,nosuid,nodev,user=johan) and //ASUSNET/disc0_2 on /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_2 type cifs (rw,mand,nosuid,nodev,user=johan)10:05
flaccid_tzd, which one can't write to? both?10:06
tzdflaccid_: yes both10:06
flaccid_ls -l /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1 please10:06
tzdflaccid_: in case i forgot to mention it: i can write folders, but no files10:06
flaccid_and is that new or existing files or both?10:07
tzdflaccid_: s -l /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1 = drwxr-xr-x 1 johan adm 0 2008-05-26 23:40 Bilder   and a few other folders with the same permissions10:08
tzdflaccid_: both, not able to create new files and not able to copy or move existing files10:08
flaccid_and you are current user johan?10:10
tzdflaccid_: yes10:10
flaccid_tzd, output of touch /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1 TEST.txt10:10
flaccid_please10:10
tzdflaccid_: hmm no output10:11
flaccid_tzd, now file /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1 TEST.txt please10:12
flaccid_i mean file  /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1/TEST.txt10:12
flaccid_if that returns ascii run ls -l on that file location10:13
tzdflaccid_: hmm the first cmd you gave me seems to work , the second one says no such file or directory10:14
tzdflaccid_: the first one:10:15
tzdjohan@Penguin:~$ file /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1 TEST.txt10:15
tzd/home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1: directory10:15
tzdTEST.txt:                          empty10:15
flaccid_try echo "test" >> /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1/TEST.txt10:15
flaccid_tzd, i gave incorrect command first.10:15
flaccid_was missing slash10:15
tzdflaccid_: i see, the output of the second cmd was:10:16
tzdfile  /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1/TEST.txt10:16
tzd/home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1/TEST.txt: ERROR: cannot open `/home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1/TEST.txt' (No such file or directory)10:16
tzdjohan@Penguin:~$ echo "test" >> /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1/TEST.txt10:16
tzdbash: /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_1/TEST.txt: Åtkomst nekas10:16
tzdÅtkomst nekas = Access denied10:16
flaccid_tzd, ls -l /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET/disc0_110:17
flaccid_also ls -l /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET10:18
flaccid_pastebin please10:18
flaccid_and whoami is johan?10:19
tzdflaccid_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15755/10:19
tzdflaccid_: yes whoami returns johan10:19
flaccid_tzd, and on /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET10:19
tzdflaccid_: whoami in the ASUSNET folder returns johan10:21
flaccid_nah ls -l /home/johan/smb4k/ASUSNET10:21
tzdflaccid_: oh, ok :) Sorry bout that10:21
flaccid_np10:21
tzdflaccid_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15756/10:22
VIRIIMINDwhere to find gadgets for kubuntu 8.04?10:23
flaccid_tzd, all local perms are fine. problem is router. either the config on it or a mismatch in uids. you should see the config of samba and the logs on the router.10:23
flaccid_VIRIIMIND, what is a gadget?10:23
VIRIIMINDlol... leave it...10:24
flaccid_leave what sorry?10:24
tzdflaccid_: ok thanks! According to the guide I've been following i can install samba on the router manually as well.... i'll do that and hopefully this will be solved10:25
VIRIIMIND flaccid_ i want to show ma processor, memory, disk, temp statues on ma desktop10:25
flaccid_tzd, well samba is installed already objviously so why reinstall when you can configure? also you never checked smbclient...10:26
PennycookYou mean widget?10:26
VIRIIMINDoh ya10:26
VIRIIMINDma mistake10:26
VIRIIMIND:D10:26
flaccid_!superkaramba | VIRIIMIND10:26
ubottuVIRIIMIND: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org10:26
tzdflaccid_: it's just that i don't know where to find the samba config on the router10:26
VIRIIMINDok10:26
VIRIIMINDthanks10:26
flaccid_tzd, see documentation or search for it10:26
flaccid_i woudln't be using a firmware that has just a dodgy forum..10:27
flaccid_which is why dd-wrt is more suitable for your router10:27
tzdhmm i'll have a look on that then too10:27
tzdflaccid_: thanks for all your help!10:28
flaccid_np10:28
[mad]Berry|Lappyfinally wireless thanks everyone for the help......10:30
flaccid_[mad]Berry|Lappy, what you end up doing?10:31
[mad]Berry|Lappyfigured out that an instance of networkmanager was still running after closing that wireless worked fine10:33
flaccid_um rightio then10:33
flaccid_i hope it continues to do so..10:33
[mad]Berry|Lappyi hope so too lol10:35
tzdflaccid_: found the samba config on the router. According to what I've seen on google it looks pretty ok.... not sure what might be wrong in it?10:37
flaccid_tzd, not sure how you woul assume its ok. pastebin it.10:37
flaccid_unless you are a samba expert, never assume its 'ok'..10:38
josai can do "konsole --workdir /directory/ -e /directory/program.exe"... is there any way to start a program in Yakuake :/?10:38
flaccid_start a program? externally via script?10:40
josayes.. in yakuake, that thing does it in konsole10:40
flaccid_josa, did you check man yakuake or google? answers are there10:41
josaman yakuake is like 5 lines.. and nothing on google10:41
flaccid_hmm10:41
flaccid_my bad10:41
flaccid_i will find then10:41
cartmanDid anyone try installing KUbuntu on a MacBook Pro ?10:42
flaccid_josa, did you try yakuake /what/i/want/to/run10:42
josayes, i think ive tried that one10:42
tzdflaccid_: http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2078/printmn5.png  //can't copy/paste in my version of putty :/10:42
josabut ill check10:42
flaccid_josa, check the yakuake dcop commands as well10:44
tzdjosa: have you tried changing the default terminal application to yakuake?10:44
* flaccid_ looking tzd10:44
josayes it is set to yakuake.. havent restarted though10:44
tzdok10:45
tzdnot sure if it would help restarting but maybe?10:45
tzdflaccid_: just realised that the above lines "vi smb.conf" are not used. Realised i could change the share name there so just wanted to try it out and then you wanted to have a look so i changed back to default :)10:47
flaccid_huh10:47
flaccid_tzd, first problem i see is user = share10:48
flaccid_oops. i mean security = share10:48
flaccid_also guest only = yes in global !10:48
needhelphi i logging in a machine where all commands it sayss Input/output error.. even i want to restart the machine using shutdown -r now, its saying the same thing.. anyone knows the command to restart using init ?10:48
flaccid_the force user could be a problem too. basically this samba server configuration sux! from this firmware provider.10:49
ActionParsniphey all10:49
ActionParsnipif i use virtualbox and mount a usb stick as hda and the ubuntu cd to boot, can I install to usb stick that way. Ive seen walkthroughs but then it came to me. Is this a viable solution?10:49
tzdflaccid_: ok, well the samba cfg is from asus. Should i just remove those lines you've just mentioned?10:50
flaccid_might be able to find more info on using yakuake stuff at http://yakuake.uv.ro/10:50
ActionParsnipyakuake is AWESOME10:50
tzdyeah10:50
flaccid_tzd, yeah obviously they suck. you want to change it to security = user and take off the guest. keep in mind they could be there because of lack of user implementation in the firmware. so yeah...10:51
ActionParsniptzd: is it possible to do an install to usb with virtualbox to setup the drive?10:51
flaccid_needhelp, did you search google?10:52
tzdjust out of curiosity.... ActionParsnip, who do you get help from when you have a problem? To me your'e the one that helps everyone with difficult issues. hehe and now you're asking me, the newbie dude :D10:52
tzdflaccid_: ok but that will only set the security higher right?10:53
ActionParsnipi dont have all the answers, i just start at basic stuff the noobs dont see first. Ive noticed that people in forums really go for the jugular when it comes to troubleshooting10:53
flaccid_tzd, no. wtf would you assume that :)10:53
flaccid_like i said if they havnt mapped smb users to shell user then yeah...10:53
flaccid_thus the force user. doesn't sound like they know much about security let alone smb10:54
ActionParsnipE.g. User: I cant print to my <fancy printer name>. HelperPerson: Oh you need to compile this module and put it in your kernel configure, make, make install etc10:54
ActionParsnipwithout getting any info about the situation. its hilarious10:54
tzdflaccid_: well you're the only one that can guide me through this mess so whatever you say is my command :)10:54
flaccid_yeah10:55
ActionParsnipflaccid_: can virtualbox be used to complete a usbstick install of *Ubuntu ??10:55
flaccid_tzd, the users/perms etc. on this firmware i don't know so i can't say if user mode will even work. you may need to smbpasswd or creat user map.10:56
tzdflaccid_: let's see. Guest ok and Guest only = remove?10:56
flaccid_ActionParsnip, sorry never used10:56
flaccid_tzd, you don't need either10:56
josaActionParsnip: since youre here, you know anything similar in Yakuake to "konsole --workdir /dir/ -e /dir/prog.exe" :)10:56
ActionParsnipflaccid_: hmm, might give it a whirl. I'll let you know :)10:56
flaccid_k10:56
flaccid_josa, i guess you were too lazy to look at the resources i mentioned10:57
ActionParsnipjosa: what's it do?10:57
josait opens a program using that work directory10:57
flaccid_needhelp, init 6 iirc10:57
tzdflaccid_: should i remove the forceuser as well?10:57
flaccid_tzd, maybe. i mean have a think about why its there...10:58
tzdflaccid_: ok10:58
flaccid_its bad security at the best10:58
ActionParsnipjosa: you could make a bash script to cd to the folder then execute it, this would make the working dir work. Not had to do anything fancy like that myself10:59
josahmm10:59
ActionParsnipjosa: or put it on a single line with a ';' separating the commands10:59
ActionParsnipyou could even alias it11:00
josawell.. it seems ill try that then11:00
flaccid_it won't be able to do what josa wants11:00
flaccid_and the yakuake site is poorly documented11:00
josamore like not documented at all :/11:00
needhelpflaccid thanks11:01
ActionParsnipjosa: id do that stuff in konsole and run every day stuff in yakuake11:01
ActionParsnipdamn why wont commands autocomplete in irc :(11:01
ActionParsnipthat be sweet11:01
needhelpflaccid is it just init 6 -t 0 ?11:01
josayeah, it seems thats the way ill have to do too11:01
flaccid_josa, contact yakuake and complain11:01
josalol.. i think ill just wait for a new version11:02
needhelpno effect.. i can't use shutdown it says -bash: /sbin/shutdown: Input/output error .. urgh.. and i'm not on that site now :(11:02
flaccid_needhelp, i dont know. couldn't quickly find info on ubuntu's runlevels11:02
flaccid_needhelp, i/o error is usually hardware damage.11:02
flaccid_josa, no idea how thats going to help :)11:02
needhelpdart..guess i'll have to make a trip down11:02
flaccid_needhelp, or use google11:03
josawell it doesnt.. ill just use bot konsole and yakuake :/11:03
flaccid_you can be more active than that11:04
flaccid_you can try #kde and #yakuake and mail them and also find out how to use dcop to list what yakuake can provide..11:04
josaim googling those dcop commands now11:05
josaas youve probably noticed, im a noob11:05
jaakkomeis adding a .desktop file to ~/.kde/Autostart the proper way to start autostart applications or should I do it some other way?11:05
flaccid_josa, im not having much luck either. could be replaced by dbus in this case11:06
ActionParsnipim going to run a fluxbuntu file server with sound so I can play MP3s remotely. I have an AMD64. Will 64bitness help me any?11:06
flaccid_jaakkome, usually a symlink to the binary is fine or make a custom script in autostart11:07
flaccid_ActionParsnip, yes if its all native down the line11:07
ActionParsniphow?11:08
ActionParsnipits going to be a samba share with sshd so i can play stuff via mplayer11:08
flaccid_65bit processing11:08
flaccid_64 even11:08
ActionParsnipall cli based but using fluxbox to setup initially11:08
flaccid_your question is not about software itself11:09
flaccid_ie. they didn't make 64bit if there was not going to be a benefit11:09
ActionParsnipflaccid_: i guessed that but what will the noticable difference be?11:09
ActionParsnip64 bit is good for computations in mathematical stuff and 3d rendering gains massively11:09
ActionParsnipas well as gaming engines being more precise11:10
ActionParsnipbut for a crappy server?11:10
flaccid_josa, the commands dcop and open dcop i believe. im not at home atm, i can't test11:10
flaccid_wtf11:10
flaccid_ActionParsnip, i guess you don't know about how processing works.11:10
ActionParsnipflaccid i know about fetch - execute etc11:11
flaccid_64bit = 2x the bandwidth of processing of 32bit. so when it performs the same speed it processes twice as many bits11:11
flaccid_thats in theory of course..11:11
ActionParsnipflaccid_: makes sense11:11
ActionParsnipoh indeed, everythingin theory works perfectly11:11
ActionParsnipok well i'll hold out. ive got a 32bit xp dell lappy here i could do a usb install with but its destined for a semp 3000 AM211:12
flaccid_well in your case you might have more luck running it as a server than desktop depending on what userland programs you run. 64bit support on desktop is woeful.11:12
jaakkomeflaccid: so I can just make a text file, write all the commands I want to run at startup, save it at .kde/Autostart and chmod u+x it, right?11:12
ActionParsnipso i'll do it properly11:12
flaccid_ActionParsnip, no point in buying a 64bit chip if you don't use it.11:12
ActionParsnipjaakkome: you'll need the hash bang bin bash at the top too :)11:13
flaccid_jaakkome, yeah it will just run whatever it can exec in the autostart folder11:13
ActionParsnipflaccid_: its all thats available but i see your point11:13
ActionParsnipflaccid_: well..for cheap anyhoo11:13
flaccid_all you do is check support. if you can run all you need in 64bit then do it.11:14
ActionParsnipoh i can. its not gonna be a desktop rig so its fine :)11:14
jaakkomewoo, I made a script. Can I add programming skills into my cv now?11:14
ActionParsnipjaakkome: nearly ;)11:14
flaccid_ActionParsnip, totally11:15
josacan you do "hello world"?11:15
flaccid_jaakkome, totally11:15
ActionParsnipflaccid_: won't he need #!/bin/bash at the top of his script?11:15
flaccid_ActionParsnip, depends on the script11:16
ActionParsnipjaakkome: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-10.html try the top program :)11:16
flaccid_but i assumed that given the user was talking about scripting like they knew it11:16
ActionParsnipflaccid_: I always put it in (old skool)11:16
flaccid_#!/bin/sh is fine unless you need bash for something11:16
flaccid_nah its not old school, its mandatory11:16
flaccid_otherwise head will fai.11:16
flaccid_fail11:16
ActionParsnipoh then i covered my ass11:17
flaccid_totally11:17
ActionParsnipok well i gots my weekend planned11:18
ActionParsnipburn fluxbuntu, install to 5gb partition, install to USB stick, verify, wipe entire 80Gb drive, configure samba / wifi / sshd, put pc in cupboard. forget about it :)11:19
flaccid_only check cooling11:21
ActionParsnipoh will do11:22
ActionParsnipits an asus pundit p1-ah2 POS, 1gb ddr2 40W PSU11:22
ActionParsniponboard everything11:22
ActionParsnipwifi11:23
flaccid_cool11:23
ActionParsnipeverything works out of the box11:23
ActionParsnip:D11:23
ActionParsnipwww.efficientpc.co.uk is where I got it11:24
ActionParsnipuk seller of Linux based preinstalled systems11:25
flaccid_im confused. why did you need help? why did you have to use virtualisation?11:26
ActionParsniphmm actually11:26
ActionParsnipcan i tell the installer to instal to usb from the live environment?11:27
flaccid_you said your provider was a provider of preinstalled systems11:27
ActionParsnipyeah11:27
flaccid_!install | ActionParsnip11:28
ubottuActionParsnip: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate11:28
ActionParsnipnice about the booting from cd image11:29
flaccid_ActionParsnip, yeah that provider is pretty crap...11:32
feebleCould someone tell me why there's no info of the changes that were made for a gcc update? The requested URL /changelogs/pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/gcc-defaults_4.2.3-1ubuntu5/changelog was not found on this server. This seems a little bit fishy.11:33
starenkahullo11:33
stdinfeeble: because changelogs.ubuntu.com take a few mins to update11:34
starenkacan sbdy help me with my dcop / kwallet / shell problem?11:34
ActionParsnipflaccid_: system is fine for me. runs fine :)11:34
feeblestdin: Okay, but I get this message since more than 3 hours.11:34
flaccid_ActionParsnip, my comment was not about the system..11:35
ActionParsnipwell thats what I see, whats up with them?11:35
flaccid_ActionParsnip, is there anything they can provide besides the hardware? it just looks like a commericial load of crap to me11:36
feeblestdin: Do you have a url handy where there's more info about the intend change?11:36
feebleintended11:36
stdinfeeble: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults will have the changes before changelogs.u.c11:36
ActionParsnipthey give loads of email support and phone support. they recognise people want to upgradetheir systems sodont mind users opening their systems to add hardware11:36
flaccid_ActionParsnip, thats quite redundant.11:37
feeblestdin: thanks.11:37
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ActionParsnipjust fancied a linux preinstalled system to see if theyd add a load of gumf like dell etc do, seemed fine11:37
flaccid_ActionParsnip, there is more to being a linux hardware provider than selecting some hardware that works and then responding to emails..11:37
flaccid_ActionParsnip, yeah unfortunately you didn't get any benefit..11:37
ActionParsniptrue enough, but the systems solid soim happy enough11:38
stdinfeeble: looks like aptitude is looking in the wrong place though, odd11:38
flaccid_ActionParsnip, you can spend far less and get better support :)11:38
ActionParsnipi use the linux community. i have all the support i need11:39
flaccid_ActionParsnip, exactly. no need to go to them :) i mean if they provided some more details on their support scope and some actual support on their website, im sure i'd be more pro-activ about them. but all they offer is selling..11:40
ActionParsnipit was more to see what linux preinstalled was going to deliver with the actual system itself, and if it was going to be badged etc, apps already installed etc etc11:41
flaccid_ActionParsnip, so what happend? and whats the go with going to virtualbox and installation? i mean wtf?11:42
ActionParsnipi can throw pcs together no problem, just wanted to sample linux preinstalled11:42
flaccid_interesting.. and what was the result?11:42
ActionParsnipflaccid_: i have my mork lappy here and was going to install fluxbuntu to it so I could jam it in at home11:42
flaccid_oh jam it in as in run from .iso or something?11:43
ActionParsnipflaccid_: very little. I just got a pc that i didnt build with beryl on it which was removed after a matter of hours11:43
flaccid_not sure what you mean. what was the result out of box?11:43
ActionParsnipwas an ok rig (if thats what you mean)11:44
flaccid_what didn't work?11:44
ActionParsnipnothing. it all works11:44
flaccid_cool11:44
ActionParsnipeven if i do a vanilla install it all works with whats on the cd11:45
flaccid_ActionParsnip, did multiple displays work out of box?11:45
ActionParsnipi dont use it so i wouldnt know11:45
flaccid_also was samba configured?11:45
flaccid_anyway. i would only expect that of a provider that does more than installing the OS.11:46
ActionParsnipsamba was not configured but when you order you can ask for things to be configured11:46
flaccid_ok cool11:46
ActionParsnipbut i guess for the less informed this is fairly redundant11:46
flaccid_a provider should show a strategy, they dont.11:47
ActionParsnipindeed11:47
flaccid_it looks more a case of trying to use a foss to make money with not much back to the community if anything let alone decent support to the end users. but hey thats my opinion. i have high standards - at least thats what people think. i don't have high standards, i just have standards.11:48
ActionParsnipi just fancied giving it a go. i chose them randomly and had the cash spare11:49
flaccid_yaaa sweet in that respect11:49
ActionParsnipid suggest just buying parts that are very linux compatible and throwing it together yourself. same deal11:50
flaccid_yep, agreed upon there. but i do believe there should be good linux hardware/software in one providers.11:51
ActionParsnipindeed11:51
flaccid_so that end/normal users can jsut choose like your experiment11:51
ActionParsnipmind you dell are jumping over to OSS11:51
ActionParsnipeven releasing an "eeepc killer" the mini inspiron11:52
flaccid_for example, they would have to know to request samba config whereis a normal user would complain that network doesn't work after they get home.... but one could argue thats the responsibilty of the OS. but then again this is post-installation..11:52
flaccid_ActionParsnip, yes but dell linux support is not as great as what they claim and what people say11:52
flaccid_only about 80%+ of the dells i have had work out of box without problem11:52
ActionParsnipdell suck anyway, the only thing dell shaped i like is DRAC11:53
ActionParsnipflaccid, most of our servers are Dell based11:53
flaccid_dell is fine. my US server is dell11:53
flaccid_some component choices are not actually linux supported very well at all thats all11:53
ActionParsnipwe have citrix farms and sql servers on dell11:54
jhoc2x2how to change to freenode?11:54
ActionParsnipjhoc2x2: you're on freenode11:54
ActionParsnipjhoc2x2: well an irc channel11:54
ActionParsnipon freenode11:54
* ActionParsnip looks confused11:56
epssihow do i start solving a problem: crash at splash(screen)?11:57
flaccid_epssi, checking logs11:58
epssikernel 2.6.22 doesn't crash, 2.6.24 does11:58
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eagles0513875what linux distro comes with the asus Eee pc is it an ubuntu derivative11:58
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: its xandros11:59
epssifaccid is there a log if i have to cold shut after the crash?11:59
eagles0513875i dunno y i thought it was an ubuntu derivative11:59
eagles0513875like gobuntu or something11:59
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: theres a disro similar to Ubuntu called eeeXUbuntu which is made specifically for the eeepc11:59
eagles0513875so there r 2 distros that they come with11:59
eagles0513875either xandros or eeexubuntu12:00
epssior win xp..12:00
eagles0513875forget winxp lol12:00
eagles0513875nothing wanting to deal with windows i have to deal with it enough round here12:00
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: it comes with xp or xandros but you can install any linux distro (or BSD variant) you wish12:01
flaccid_eagles0513875, mandriva from memory12:01
flaccid_oh xandros hmm ok then12:01
eagles0513875bah now u all got me confused12:01
flaccid_epssi, no12:01
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ActionParsnipeagles0513875: http://eeepc.asus.com/12:01
flaccid_eagles0513875, google surely could have confirmed for you first12:02
epssiwhy does KSystemlog say "The file '/var/log/boot.log' does not exist."12:02
ActionParsniphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC12:02
ActionParsnipOperating systemLinux Xandros, Windows XP (at extra cost)12:02
eagles0513875ty ActionParsnip for the link12:03
ActionParsnipnp bro12:03
Pennycook_Eep.  I just ran sudo passwd by mistake; what's the flag to pass to passwd to remove the password for a user?12:19
ActionParsnipsudo passwd <username>12:20
stdinPennycook_: -dl12:20
ActionParsnipoh12:20
flaccid_yeah del it not set it12:20
ActionParsnipmine was a guess12:20
Pennycook_Thanks stdin. :)12:20
stdin:)12:20
flaccid_hehe12:20
ActionParsnipblank passwords are silly12:22
flaccid_yeah sillier than my nick thats for sure12:23
stdin-dl doesn't blank the pass, is disables it a-la root12:23
flaccid_delete and lock oh yeah12:24
ActionParsnipcouldnt you just change it to blank then verify as blank or is that disabled12:25
ActionParsnipor captured12:25
flaccid_yeah see man passwd12:26
ActionParsnipi'll check it12:26
ActionParsnipThe encrypted password field may be blank, in which case no password is required to authenticate as the specified login name. However, some applications which read the /etc/passwd file may decide not to permit any access at all if the password field is blank.12:27
mefisto__after a "sudo apt-get upgrade" today (about 40 packages upgraded), I'm getting this error for 2 packages: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139"12:29
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flaccid_i can't remember the rules in debian/linux/ubuntu but if you don't delete and lock then without validation rules its a blank password which is bad practice in PKI which is what disable account is for :)12:30
flaccid_mefisto__, there should be more error out than just that12:31
mefisto__I tried reinstalling, then removing to reinstall them, but get the same error. any ideas?12:31
mefisto__flaccid_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15779/12:32
ActionParsnipmefisto__: try ps -A see if apt-get is runningin the background12:33
flaccid_the problem is with dpkg sub process not apt12:34
ActionParsnipjust pulled it off a forum12:34
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22111512:34
flaccid_mefisto__, it doesn't show the script errors, try installing the packages from the apt-cache with dpkg and see if you get the actual errors12:35
flaccid_anyone can post to ubuntu forums :)12:35
ActionParsnipisnt there a weird apt-get command like apt-get install -f or something that may help12:36
flaccid_ActionParsnip, oh that forum is based on a totally different error as well12:36
mefisto__ActionParsnip: I tried that, same errors12:36
ActionParsnipflaccid_: bah12:36
flaccid_ActionParsnip, thats a fuzzy logic script12:36
flaccid_so if we install manually with dpkg it should not supress the error like apt seems to have12:37
ActionParsnipmefisto__: tried apt-get remove --purge <package name>12:38
mefisto__ActionParsnip: same error trying to remove or reinstall12:38
* flaccid_ waits for dpkg output12:38
ActionParsnipmefisto__: i'd go with flaccid_ and his dpkg suggestion12:39
mefisto__how do I use dpkg to install? dpkg -i /var/lib/dpkg/file.deb ???12:39
ActionParsnipmefisto__: seems fine to me12:39
flaccid_mefisto__, yeah but its in /var/cache/apt i believe12:39
ActionParsnipif thats where the deb file is12:40
ActionParsnipif in doubt find / -name <stuff>12:40
flaccid_im going to upstairs computer12:41
flaccid_brb12:41
mefisto__pretty much the same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15780/12:44
ActionParsnipmefisto__:  try dpkg-reconfigure -a12:48
mefisto__ActionParsnip: did you mean dpkg --configure -a ??12:50
ActionParsnipnot sure12:51
ActionParsnipive done it a few times before and it fixed stuff12:51
ActionParsniptry both (?)12:51
mefisto__the one I typed configures unconfigured things (eg, not fully installed packages) but I think dpkg-reconfigure reconfigures everything installed. and it12:53
mefisto__and it's taking a while12:53
icqnumberwhat size have kubuntu packges (kubuntu-desktop) ?12:56
ForgeAusicq kubuntu-desktop is more a wrapper package, it itself is likely only a matter of k... as for the packages it depends on, I wouldn't know personally12:57
tzd--my network is really messed up on my kubuntu hardy i think. Which dirs do i need to backup to keep my applications and their settings if i reinstall kubuntu please?12:58
ForgeAustzd, applications can be anywhere, although for the most part they're somewhere in the /usr part of the directory structure12:59
icqnumberoooh i see 641 mb12:59
ForgeAusas for settings, they TEND to be under /etc/12:59
ForgeAusthats just in general12:59
mefisto__tzd--: your home directory has all the app settings. as for the applications, you have to reinstall them. but there is a way to write the list of installed packages to a text file, then use that text file to kind of automate reinstalling what you have now13:00
tzd--ForgeAus, ok... I've copied the folders (etc, usr, home) manually to a backup drive so if i then paste them back it should be ok?13:00
ForgeAusum most likely tzd, you might have trouble copying links however13:01
ForgeAusits better to use a backup program than copy files if links are involved, I can't promise you where they are linked to will be maintained correctly via copying13:01
tzd--mefisto__ hmm that sounds quite nice... although i probably haev a lot of rubbish on there as well so... For instance kontact and Kmail. The settings i've specified for accounts, colours and so on, will they all be saved in my home folder?13:02
apparleALSA doesnot work in my computer. But OSS does work. Is there any way I can configure all the packages like KDE etc to use OSS directly (with alternate CD)13:02
tzd--ForgeAus ah ok... well I'll jus write down the most important apps and then I'll reinstall them again13:02
ForgeAusapparle that probably depends on the applications themselves...13:02
ForgeAustzd, as long as adept/dpkg works you can always reinstall ones from the repositories...13:03
mefisto__tzd--: I think you should use apt to reinstall apps, not simply copy files back to /etc or /usr. and yes, all the settings will be in your home dir, so when you reinstall a program, you'll still have things set up the way they are now13:03
tzd--mefisto__ ah ok, no worries for a reinstall then :) Will a reinstall solve potential network problems? seems like it's really messed up and a few services might be missing13:04
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mefisto__tzd--: this is a reason why many people have a separate home partition, so reinstalling is easy. (only the linux install partition is wiped, and the home partition is left intact)13:05
e_x_tremesera13:05
tzd--mefisto__mmm, so when i reinstall should i specify immediately (during partition) where my home partition is? I already have it on a separate partition13:06
mefisto__tzd--: if you already have a separate home partition, you don't need a backup, just linux to the partition where it is now, and then make sure after install the home partition is mounted correctly and it is being used as /home/tzd-username/ (or whatever)13:09
mefisto__I'm not sure what the k/ubuntu installer does. maybe someone else remembers?13:09
tzd--mefisto__ah ok... well I'm downloading kubuntu now so in a few hours I'm back on my kubuntu machine hopefully :) Thanks for your help!13:11
mefisto__tzd--: but your network problems might be settings in your home dir13:11
* flaccid_ is back13:11
mefisto__tzd--: you might want to try creating a new user and log in to that, to test if problems are the same13:12
tzd--mefisto__could be but it could also be something else and well I've done a few things a few months back that I'm not too proud of... about a month into the whole Linux experience i was fiddling a bit and most likely messed things up13:12
mefisto__flaccid_: don't know if you saw this, but I tried installing with dpkg, and  pretty much the same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15780/13:14
rophywant to convert from ra to mp3 in kubuntu13:16
mickruhi, I use kubuntu 8.04 and can't change file type associations. Neither with file properties dialog nor via system settings. Maybe the config file is read only? where are those settings stored?13:16
flaccid_mefisto__, so 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback perhaps. i would purge the packages then do an update, upgrade and make sure its all good then optionally attempt to install the pacakges13:18
flaccid_mickru, try #kde13:18
mickruok thanks13:18
flaccid_np13:19
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nosrednaekimwow... that kde4.1 daily live is the fastest VM i've ever tried13:23
frybyere: hardware compatibility - in wiki found not exact info - considering getting a msi gforce nx8400gs w. 256mb probably ok or?13:23
frybyeand am I right in thinking this will be a better buy than a gf 7200 that are hardly any cheaper now...?13:24
frybyeusing hardy..13:24
flaccid_frybye, nvidia is it? should be ok13:25
frybyeyes.. it is just that this cheaper kard the 8400 has not been on the market very long...13:25
flaccid_if for some reason the gpu id is not in the driver db then you can always use the nvidia beta drivers. the 8400 is in the hardware compat list but right on wiki?13:26
frybyether is a m8400 listed on the wiki hw compat list.. but not specifically this card...13:27
frybyeis the -M- for m-obile???13:27
frybyei am talking about a s-sata for the desktop...?13:27
frybyee e e     e-sata i mean...13:28
frybyeflaccid.. an generally I seem to think that msi is a pretty good manuf - or?13:29
frybyeseem to have lag here now.. catch you all later... bye13:30
flaccid_frybye, 8400 is the chipset or gpu, its supported.. don't worry about matching cards. no idea what sata has to do with video...13:33
* flaccid_ does get busy often13:33
flaccid_frybye, msi are good. but its more personal opinion. for video i tend to towards leadtek or gainward..13:34
latAdept Installer has encountered an error after downloading programs to install. The end of the error message reads: "Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices." How do I overcome this?13:36
_Angelus_guys . why when i hibernate windows xp and boot into kubuntu i don't have internet connection?13:38
mrksbrdwhat is the command to get firefox.....sudo apt-get install.....?13:38
nosrednaekimmrksbrd: sudo apt-get install firefox13:38
nosrednaekimand if you want firefox 2, firefox-213:39
mrksbrdthat didn't work13:39
mrksbrdlet me try w/ the 213:39
nosrednaekim_Angelus_: it probably locks the NEtwork card13:39
nosrednaekim_Angelus_: I'veheard of windows doing that13:39
_Angelus_O_o13:39
_Angelus_its able to lock the network card?13:39
whuangmrksbrd: how about " sudo aptitude update " first13:39
flaccid_!doesntwork13:39
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.13:39
mrksbrdNOS the 2 worked...ty13:40
_Angelus_nosrednaekim: would there be a way to stop win xp from locking the network card?13:41
nosrednaekim_Angelus_: IDK... maybe don't hibernate13:42
_Angelus_i want to use hibernation13:42
_Angelus_its very usefull to me13:42
mrksbrddoes anyone know if automatix is supported under 8.0413:42
_Angelus_my girl plays the sims 2 on windows which is why i  still dual boot13:42
_Angelus_and it takes a load of time to load13:42
_Angelus_so i let it open and hibernate, boot to linux13:43
_Angelus_:p13:43
flaccid_!automatix | mrksbrd13:43
ubottumrksbrd: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »13:43
latI've exited the Adept installer. Is there a way to cause the packages that were downloaded to be installed?13:43
mrksbrdahhh...ty13:44
flaccid_lat, install them manually with dpkg13:44
nosrednaekimlat: they are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives13:45
ActionParsniphey all13:45
nosrednaekim_Angelus_: sim2 requires 3d accel?13:45
nosrednaekimhey ActionParsnip13:45
_Angelus_yeah13:45
_Angelus_it requires a monster computer... to work13:45
latflaccid and nosrednaekim, so go the that directory and install them one at a time? There are many.13:46
ActionParsnip_Angelus_: for sims2? the game?13:47
_Angelus_yeah13:47
_Angelus_:p13:47
flaccid_lat, yes because you exited you have to do it manually. you could iinstall alll with one command but that might install things that are not in the list you downloaded.13:47
_Angelus_plus the "about 10" expansion packs13:47
ActionParsnip_Angelus_: its not that big13:47
_Angelus_that it has...13:47
ActionParsnip_Angelus_: yeah they take a tonne of storage for the packs13:47
_Angelus_yeah13:47
_Angelus_plus a bunch of time to load with all expansions13:48
_Angelus_i have them all13:48
latflaccid_, ok. Many thanks to you and the others!13:48
flaccid_np13:48
flaccid_lat, note that if you go back into adept and select what you want to install if its already downloaded it won't download it again..13:49
latflaccid, ok, that is great. That will be much easier.13:54
clau30does anyone know how to start bitlbee?13:55
poison!swat13:55
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.13:55
pappsa parle francais ici?13:58
SlimeyPete!french13:58
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr13:58
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poisonhow can i enable SWAT using console?14:02
poisonmorning btw :D14:02
nosrednaekimmorning14:04
poisonhi14:04
nosrednaekimwhats SWAT?14:04
poisonu can use it to control&admin samba using the browser14:05
flaccid_poison, did you try google :)14:05
poisonflaccid_, yes314:05
flaccid_iirc you have to edit a file then start it14:05
Pici!sawat14:05
ubottuFactoid sawat not found14:05
Pici!swat14:05
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.14:05
poisonbeen there14:05
flaccid_factoid needs updating sorry poison14:05
flaccid_poison, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat14:06
flaccid_stdin or another op, need to change !swat to reference primarily https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat14:06
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poisongonna try dat one14:07
poisonty14:07
flaccid_np14:07
flaccid_if i was an op i could update it :p14:08
mrksbrdsince automatix is no more what is the easiest way to get all the various codecs?14:09
nosrednaekimkubuntu-restricted-extras14:10
Picimrksbrd: install kubuntu-restricted-extras14:10
flaccid_!codecs | mrksbrd14:10
ubottumrksbrd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:10
flaccid_nosrednaekim, that won't get all codecs14:10
mrksbrdty14:10
belzebubcan someone help me get minefield to start on linux?14:10
belzebubi get Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.14:10
flaccid_its the extras plus medibuntu plus at least one more thing to get most of them14:11
flaccid_belzebub, did you google?14:11
The_ManU_212hi14:11
The_ManU_212i wanted to know if all my devices are ok or if there went something wrong with fsck14:11
The_ManU_212http://pastebin.com/m1de93f6814:11
belzebubflaccid_: yeah, and i read what u sent me, it diesn't work14:11
The_ManU_212perhaps FAT32 partition and /dev/sdb3?14:12
flaccid_!doesntwork | belzebub14:12
ubottubelzebub: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.14:12
belzebubdoesnt14:12
The_ManU_212and waht is wrong?14:12
flaccid_The_ManU_212, most likely all is well. i've had that behaviour before myself14:12
belzebubi moved firefox to /usr/local firefox and created a symbolic link to firefox in /usr/local/bin14:13
The_ManU_212flaccid_ so you get also this error 1?14:13
belzebubbut still gives me same error when i start it14:13
flaccid_The_ManU_212, have in the past14:13
flaccid_belzebub, i don't remember let alone what the error is..14:13
flaccid_sorry what is minefield?14:14
The_ManU_212flaccid_ and why did it stop?14:14
leonhey leute14:14
flaccid_The_ManU_212, i couldn't work it out. there was nothing wrong but did liek what yours did. no reason for an exit but it did14:14
belzebubminefeield is firefox314:14
flaccid_belzebub, i don't recall telling you to do that.14:14
flaccid_belzebub, are you using packages or from source?14:15
The_ManU_212flaccid_ but /dev/sdb3 should be a reason for exit isnt it and is 3.3% non-contigous not too much?14:15
belzebubu gave me a link to a webpage that talked about the error and that what it sais to do14:15
poisonflaccid_, seems i dont have xinetd.d at all14:15
flaccid_poison, need to install it as per the wiki page14:15
flaccid_belzebub, dpkg -l | grep firefox please14:16
flaccid_The_ManU_212, why should sdb3 be a reason sorry? 3.3 is fine14:16
flaccid_oh because its fat? yeah you are right that could be the reason and likely the same reason for me in the past14:16
belzebubflaccid_: this is the downloaded package, not from repos,14:17
flaccid_belzebub, we don't really support that here. you could try #firefox14:17
flaccid_belzebub, downloaded from where sorry?14:17
belzebubflaccid_: i'm there already14:17
The_ManU_212flaccid_: what for a figure of non-contigous could be worring?14:18
shane2peruquick question, how do I get things to start on login like conky?14:18
shane2peruI'm sure there is a simple way, I just don't know what it is :)14:18
flaccid_The_ManU_212, i couldn't really say. but i'd be worried myself it it went over 1014:18
nosrednaekim!autostart14:18
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html14:18
flaccid_!autostart | shane2peru14:18
ubottushane2peru: please see above14:18
shane2peruflaccid nosrednaekim thanks :)14:19
The_ManU_212flaccid_ ok thx, but /dev/sdb3 is ext314:19
flaccid_belzebub, which package is it, i wouldn't mind trying... any reason not to use repos? because its old?14:19
navetzwhat is a good way to benchmark your system?14:19
nosrednaekim!benchmark14:19
ubottuFactoid benchmark not found14:19
flaccid_The_ManU_212, yeah ext3 doesn't need defrag14:19
flaccid_!defrag > The_ManU_21214:20
poisonflaccid_, worked!! thanks alot14:21
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belzebubflaccid_: well, i don't use the one from repos because i update everyday to the daily build and the update is disabled14:21
The_ManU_212flaccid_ so you thing this exit status one could be reason of FAT32 and has no relation to /dev/sdb3, even ts below of /dev/sdb314:21
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The_ManU_212and what could be the reason of wrong clusters, with auto-correcting, allw ent fine i think?14:22
flaccid_The_ManU_212, i have no idea why sorry..14:22
flaccid_belzebub, are you on 32 or 64 bit?14:23
belzebubflaccid_: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/  ...second link from the top, is what im using14:23
shane2peruok, one more, I started with a gnome install and then installed Kubuntu-desktop, now everytime I boot into kde the Gnome desktop search program (I forget it's name) starts up and is in the icon tray, how do I get rid of that?14:23
belzebubflaccid_: 32bit14:23
flaccid_shane2peru, either close the program then logout then in or disable sessions14:24
belzebubflaccid_: i mean second file, third link14:24
flaccid_shane2peru, (unless autostart or something is calling it explicitly)14:24
shane2peruflaccid_ I'm not sure where to find it, it automatically starts up, and I didn't set it to do that. :)  So somewhere something is calling it.14:25
shane2peruflaccid_: I'm not sure where to find it in KDE, in Gnome I know exactly where to disable it. :)14:26
flaccid_belzebub, only problem is im not at home atm on ubuntu im on windows eek. i can test then but yeah google aint helping much you are right..14:26
flaccid_shane2peru, i gave you the required instructions..14:27
shane2peruflaccid_  Ahh, Tracker is the name of that prog,14:27
shane2peruflaccid_ I don't understand this "either close the program then logout then in or disable sessions"14:27
belzebubflaccid_: alright, don't worry about it, thank you14:27
shane2peruflaccid_:  the close the program is fine, logout ok, disable sessions?14:28
flaccid_shane2peru, kde uses sessions so it opens programs you had open from last login so if you kill the program then logout and it STILL re-appears, something else is calling it and not sessions..14:28
shane2peruflaccid_ ok something is calling it then, because I never opened it. :)14:29
shane2peruflaccid_ I'll figure it out, I thought there was a simple answer. thanks14:30
flaccid_shane2peru, look in ~/.kde/Autostart14:30
flaccid_shane2peru, and ask gnome/ubuntu people what could be doing it14:31
flaccid_shane2peru, i also did give a simple answer :) we are working with something that is not simple anyway14:31
shane2peruflaccid_ yeah I looked there, just found several places it starts with mlocate trackerd :)14:31
shane2peruflaccid_ ha ha, yeah, I like to know the inner workings :)14:31
shane2peruflaccid_ it is in /etc/xdg/autostart   /usr/share/autostart/14:32
shane2peruflaccid_ thanks for the help, I think that should fix it, course I probably won't log out or reboot for a few days14:33
shane2peruso I won't know for a while14:33
flaccid_shane2peru, oh yeah. the freedesktop global standard. how did i forget. thanks for reminding me!14:33
shane2peruflaccid_ ha ha, I don't know nothing about that, lol.    ok, be back later14:33
flaccid_but how it got to global share is something that shouldn't have happend14:34
flaccid_cool catchya14:34
flaccid_wb jono14:45
jonohey flaccid_14:45
flaccid_hows it going?14:45
flaccid_community manager i said hi!14:51
shane2peruflaccid_: ok, back, which is the global share?14:52
shane2peruflaccid_ oh, wait, probably the /usr/share/autostart lol14:53
flaccid_yeah i always forget about them /usr/share .desktop entires because DEs take over the desktop..14:53
shane2peruflaccid_ right14:55
josai finally figured the qdbus thing for Yakuake, thanks14:56
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geniiPici: I agree14:59
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lparrydoes anyone know a specific date to the release of the kde 4.1 beta binaries?15:00
lparrysupposibly it was going to be for today15:00
jpdsgenii: it's !o.ps | $nick15:01
flaccid_josa, show me! i aint be able to access dcop/dbus because im not at home!15:03
josaqdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/sessions runCommand15:04
josasimple as that15:04
flaccid_lparry, won't be until at least intrepid i hear and help in #kubuntu-kde415:04
flaccid_thats not simple15:04
SteamMachineHi all15:04
lparryflaccid_: humm, there was something on planet kde15:05
SteamMachineI have a logitech (something something) webcam and I assumed I'd be able to plug and play15:05
SteamMachinebut no.15:05
flaccid_josa, hey where did you find that mate? its like yakuake.kde.org backwards which must be authoritive namespace15:05
SteamMachineAny idea how to get this webcam working?15:05
flaccid_!webcam | SteamMachine15:05
ubottuSteamMachine: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras15:05
flaccid_SteamMachine, you are luck if its supported.15:05
josai wrote qdbus on terminal... there it shows the options15:05
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josalike qdbus org.kde.yakuake shows yakuakes options tec15:06
flaccid_josa, sweet. yeah i can't do it because im on ssh and it needs actuall screen 0 access to the display etc.. :( will check it out when i get home thanks15:06
josanp15:06
flaccid_thats cool but. dbus is taking over dcop and i have yet to use it much at all15:07
josawell, im new so i have yet to use anything ;)15:07
flaccid_josa, for new you are going awesome. you helped me with something i've wanted to know !15:08
josayeah.. im a stubborn bastard.. i wont give up until i find a fix15:08
SteamMachineflaccid_: I think it's supported... but I'm not sure, because I can't remember what kind of cam it is exactly15:08
flaccid_SteamMachine, check the list on that page15:09
flaccid_josa, thats what i like to hear!! and thanks for letting us know/reporting back :)15:09
josanice to hear i could help15:11
aaroncampbellI know there are plenty of apps that add a nice GUI to diff (meld, kompare, etc).  Are there any that just color code a .diff file nicely like trac does?15:12
SteamMachineflaccid_: uhh15:13
SteamMachinehow is that going to help if I don't know what kind of camera it is?15:13
flaccid_aaroncampbell, kdiff / kdiff315:13
flaccid_SteamMachine, you can check lsusb for the chip/hex code15:13
trappistaaroncampbell: apt-cache show colordiff15:14
trappist!info colordiff15:14
ubottucolordiff (source: colordiff): tool to colorize 'diff' output. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-2 (hardy), package size 11 kB, installed size 104 kB15:14
SteamMachineBus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc. ?15:14
flaccid_SteamMachine, yep and then need to check if that hex code is in the list15:15
aaroncampbellflaccid_: seems like it can compare files, but not just show a diff as color coded...shows my diff and compares it to nothing...shows all lines as added and same color15:15
SteamMachineyes, it is.15:15
flaccid_aaroncampbell, there might be something you need to do as well. i dont know it that well. the #kde guys should be able to help out i reckon15:16
flaccid_SteamMachine, can you provide me a link back to that (sorry to be lazy im on windows)15:16
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SteamMachinehttp://www.quickcamteam.net/hcl/linux/logitech-webcams15:17
Djoeferwhat would be a very good opensource irc client for ubuntu ? where you can define actions & shortcuts (eg automaticaly register when logging on, automatic nickchange, etc)15:18
flaccid_SteamMachine, thats logitech's website not the ubuntu wiki and it doesn't look like its supported15:19
flaccid_Djoefer, xchat or konversation15:19
SteamMachineWaaaah *cries*15:20
Djoeferhehe im on konversation now15:20
flaccid_SteamMachine, i will double check15:20
flaccid_Djoefer, start scripting then :)15:20
trappistDjoefer: I've tried most of em, and now I've been using irssi for years15:20
flaccid_SteamMachine, did you try camorama or xawtv just by chance?15:20
trappistDjoefer: it's a console client, but (other than clickiness) it has just about every feature you could think of15:21
SteamMachineflaccid_: camorama says it couldn't connect to video device15:21
Djoefertrappist: ill have a look at it15:21
Djoeferflaccid_: ill try to find the scripting ;)15:21
flaccid_trappist, pretty sure you can hook up tcl as well, but hey i could be wrong. verify in #konversation if someone here can't sorry15:22
flaccid_SteamMachine, you can make it work but most likely have to compile the driver. people have had success here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-228081.html15:23
aaroncampbelltrappist: I tried colordiff, and it seems like it too can only compare files and color the differences.  I want to color code a diff file that I already have (and I do NOT have the files that were used to generate it)15:23
SteamMachineflaccid_:  thanks15:23
* flaccid_ going in 5mins15:23
flaccid_np SteamMachine15:24
belzebubwhat's the best app for searching files?15:24
flaccid_um. not sure on the desktop but grep is good for cli. anyone know if strigi searches files?15:24
flaccid_sorry searching for files or searching in files?15:25
belzebubfor files15:28
BluesKajHiyas all15:29
jill_hi to all15:30
flaccid_belzebub, use strigi from the menu15:31
jill_where the russian locale on firefox 2.0.0.6 is located?15:31
flaccid_ok im off for now cia0skis15:32
frybyehi - someone tells me that it can sometimes take acronis true image 15+ minutes to resolve the local network computers before one can get an image on the other pc .. this right??15:32
frybyei have just screwed my installation of ku-8.04 by switching off the pc during a boot sequence...15:33
frybyestupid i know...15:33
jill_Why i have a "http://wiki.mozilla.ru/index.php/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D08%D1%84%D08%D0A%D00%D1%86%D08%D1%8F%20Firefox%201.5%20%D08%20%D02%D1%8B%D1%88%D05" insterd of normal link in firefox under kubuntu?15:36
geniifrybye: What error/symptom is happening?15:36
SteamMachinechown: cannot access `/root/Desktop/easycam': No such file or directory - easycam gave this error15:37
frybyenothing - I select /network/computers near me - and nothing happens.. a pal once told me this can just take ages..15:37
SteamMachinei'm not sure what that means though15:37
frybyehave booted from the acronis recovery cd...15:37
geniiSteamMachine: You are logging on as root for some reason?15:38
frybyeand gone thru the selections to the point where one needs to say which backup archive to usw..15:38
frybyeand it just has not shown the other pc on my home net..15:38
frybyeit is opened for shareing... the backup directory i mean...15:38
frybyejill - you need to go to settings/fonts/ other extended settings - other languages.. or...?15:40
geniifrybye: When you just try to boot to the hd of the messed up install what happens?15:40
frybye(that is they way it looks on f-fox3 rc1 in windows at least...15:40
jeremy__i had ubuntu/gnome installed, and i just installed kubuntu... but 1) grub no longer had a cursor (i was still able to scroll and make selection, i just couldn't see what was highlighted) and 2) i can't log into kde. when i try i just log into gnome.  the shutdown button doesn't give me the normal options either. i don't have turn off or reset15:40
SteamMachinegenii: I thought I needed to, it seemed to not work without root permission15:40
frybyeit only has us english and does not let me change or install any other languages...15:40
frybyewhich means it took me a while to figure out why i couldnt login (z and y reversed etc..)15:41
geniiSteamMachine: Thats whats sudo is for15:41
jill_i installing ru locale... but cant fix link adresses.. it is works, but looks like error15:41
Daisuke_Idomornin' Doc Dubya15:42
frybyegenii: any idea how I can -encourage- acronis to resolve the net??15:43
geniifrybye: Nope. I don't use it. Probably better to ask somewhere more specific to that app though than in here15:43
frybyei will try booting it again i think..15:43
savetheWorldHi all - i unthinkingly tried to use cpan the other day (for of habit) and it seems to have messed up my perl installation.  Can anyone suggest what steps I should take with apt-(get cache etc) to fix it?15:47
yuri_hola, ci sono utenti italiani??15:48
emilsedgh!it | yuri_15:48
ubottuyuri_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!15:48
jeremy__what would cause the cursor bar to dissapear on grub?15:51
geniisavetheWorld: PErhaps      sudo apt-get install --reinstall perl15:53
savetheWorldgenii: thank you. i will try that.15:55
yuri_solo una domanda qual è la porta di #ubuntu-it per favore15:55
frybyegenii: acronis seems to be working now.. will see if it makes some more progress soon...15:57
geniifrybye: Good, seems like some kind of progress15:58
geniijill_: Have you tried:    sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales                      ?15:58
frybyenow I have got to the point where it is showing "current operation progress.." but nothing to be seen so far.. we shall see.. heheh15:59
frybyethe thing that bugs me a bit is that there seems to be no h-disk activity.. hmmm15:59
frybyeah - just started...15:59
frybye"speak of the devil.. heheh!"16:00
jeremy__wow... my monitor is totally flashing green16:00
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geniiSteamMachine: So, are you logged on as a regular user right now, or root?16:00
frybyeI can only reccomend acronis true image 11 -it has saved my bacon so many times already...16:00
frybyedont let it do that for too long jeremy16:01
jeremy__er... how do i prevent it from doing this?16:01
SteamMachineregular user16:02
nosrednaekimjeremy__: is it a hardware issue?16:02
frybyenot sure what you were doing - but perhaps shutdown and re-start??16:02
nosrednaekimis the monitor plugged in correctly?16:02
jeremy__it should be. it was working fine a few minutes ago. i'll try booting into windows and see how that looks16:02
frybyenosrednaekim: I have heard that one should not let a monitor go crazy for long to avoid frying the g-card.. or...?16:03
jeremy__i'll let synaptic finish its thang first16:03
geniiSteamMachine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam has fairly comprehensive instructions on how to install the application you are having difficulty with16:03
Georgijhello i inputed a cd and it aint workingg help me16:03
Georgiji burned windows xp on a cd16:04
Georgijand it aint working16:04
Georgijhelp me16:04
josareminds me of...16:04
frybyeeven if you burnt it the right way - perhaps burnt too fast for a good image..16:04
PiciGeorgij: This channel is only for Kubuntu support, if you need Windows help , please join ##windows16:04
Georgiji dont think windows can  help me16:05
Georgijsince i burned it on kubuntu16:05
frybyeGeorgij - clever answer hehehe16:05
Georgijhehe16:05
geniiGeorgij: A few things out of place here. 1-You're of course not supposed to admit you are making copies of your Windows cds 2-This channel is for Kubuntu and not Windows16:06
belzebubhoe do i delete a folder with files in it, command16:06
frybyeGeorgij: like I say - burnt too fast or???16:06
GeorgijI took automatic16:06
geniiPici: Sorry for repeat, had already typed out most of it ;)16:06
Picigenii: apology accepted16:06
BluesKajGeorgij, makes no difference if you burned it on solaris or any other OS , you should ask in ##windows16:06
Georgijwhy16:07
GeorgijI dont thrust those bastards because I burned an image16:07
frybyeGeorgij: cos this is a # specifically for kubuntu stuff and you are asking basically windows stuff.. that is the argument...16:07
SteamMachinegenii16:07
SteamMachineI installed it already16:07
GeorgijIts not Windows16:07
SteamMachineit didn't help16:07
GeorgijOk i say like this16:07
GeorgijI burned a ISO and my CD aint working16:07
Georgijwhen i insert it it wont display16:08
PiciGeorgij: The people in ##windows are familiar with Linux as well, we're not going to be able to help you here with Windows problems, end of story.16:08
belzebubi guess they don't support pirated windows here16:08
GeorgijIll repeat my question16:08
belzebublolz16:08
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GeorgijI burned an Iso and it aint showing up when I insert the cd it is like it doesnt exist16:08
Georgijthis has nothing to do with windows16:08
xsachahey guys! received my kubuntu cd in the mail today. thanks!16:09
BluesKajGeorgij, do you have your BIOS boot sequence set up to look at the cdrom first ?16:09
frybyeGeorgij: see my pm pal...!!!16:09
jeremy__wow that sucks. one of my monitors just decided to turn bright green16:09
frybyejeremy__: dont overdoo it with that thing imho...16:09
belzebubjeremy__: u have dual monitors an dusing ati card?16:09
Georgijfryebye I hate people who uses windows they have 0 knowledge so I wont ask them16:09
GeorgijI only use it to play games16:09
jeremy__no, i had just 1 monitor set up becuase i was having problems with dual monitors. but i have a second one that i just swapped in right now16:10
PiciGeorgij: Are you trying to install Windows?16:10
trappistGeorgij: I burn all my cds like so and never have a problem: sudo cdrecord -dao -speed=24 filename.iso16:10
jeremy__it looks like my backlight is going out16:10
frybyeGeorgij: all changes nothing on my theory that u burnt it too f a s t!!!!16:10
GeorgijI know how to install it16:10
Georgijshould I reburn it then?16:10
jeremy__fail... it was a christmas present16:10
belzebubjeremy__: what video card?16:10
trappistGeorgij: might have to edit /etc/default/cdrecord with the default device16:10
PiciGeorgij: I'm not sure what the problem is then....16:11
jeremy__ati x1950 pro agp16:11
belzebubjeremy__: well, i can tell you that similar thing happened to me, but ...linux broke my video card, not the monitor, try the second port and see if it is still green16:12
nacerdo  you think i can install kubuntu kde4 package on a ubuntu without crash about my version ?16:13
jeremy__belzebub did i mention i plugged in a second monitor and it's working perfectly?16:13
belzebubjeremy__: in the same port?16:14
jhutchins_wkbelzebub:16:14
jeremy__belzebub: yeah, i put it into the same port16:14
belzebubjeremy__: ok, i gues sit's the monitor then16:15
jill_i have a kubuntu 710, can i use wine there?16:15
GeorgijWhich one should I use to burn?16:15
jeremy__and does a bright green screen indicate a backlight going bad?16:15
USMarinei'd rather have wine in a glass16:15
Georgij.img or .ccd?16:15
Georgijor .sub16:16
Georgij?16:16
USMarinejeremy__ could be16:16
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jill_guys, give me a apt command to download wine please16:17
USMarineapt-get install wine16:18
jill_usmarine thanks16:18
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jill_usmarine, it doesnt works16:19
geniijill_: Remember sudo16:19
pimof course :p16:20
jill_i am16:20
USMarinesudo apt-get install wine16:20
pimsudo apt-get install wine16:20
jill_i know but it doesnt works anyway16:20
tempestwhy not ?16:20
USMarinewhat's the message16:20
geniijill_: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install wine16:20
USMarineyou have to allow 3rd party repositories i believe16:21
jill_it writes ot terminal - couldnt find package wine16:21
genii!info wine16:21
jill_i have kubuntu71016:21
ubottuwine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.59-0ubuntu5 (hardy), package size 11455 kB, installed size 53620 kB16:21
geniienable universe16:21
jill_how?16:22
pimhttp://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb16:22
pimthat explains how to do it16:22
jill_okay16:22
geniiThanks pim16:22
frybyegenii: the image has worked... yipeee... (just have to install g-earth again now.. hmmm...)16:22
tzdwhat's that called again for the truetype fonts, the package? Need to get my fonts straight :)16:22
geniifrybye: Glad yer back up and running16:23
geniitzd: msttcorefonts and ttf-liberation16:23
tempestI have a question.  there is a folder in trash that I can't get rid of  It gives me an error message that it can't find the file16:24
tzdgenii: good stuff, thanks!16:24
geniitzd: np16:24
tempestthe question was :  is there a way to fix it ?   sorry about cutting myself off16:24
jill_deb of wine needs binfmt-support, where can i get it?16:25
pimsudo apt-get binfmt-support16:26
jill_okay16:26
pimjill_ use apt-cache search <something> to search for things16:26
jill_incorrect operation16:26
josemanuelhi! i have installed kubuntu in my laptop but when i install nvidia drivers..my screen resolution change to 1900x1200. how change to 1440x900?16:26
USMarineright click on desktop16:27
josemanuelok16:27
USMarineproperties or something16:27
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nosrednaekimwhat? thats not going to do anything16:27
josemanuelyes..but16:27
nosrednaekimjosemanuel: systemsettings->monitor and resolution16:27
BluesKajUSMarine, "or something" doesn't cut it ..we have ppl depending on the right advice16:28
USMarinesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg16:28
geniitempest: rm ~/.local/share/Trash/info/*16:28
josemanuelin this window i cant change the resolution16:28
josemanuelonly see 1900x120016:28
nosrednaekimyou can't lower the slider?16:28
nosrednaekimUSMarine: that no-longer works anymore16:29
tempestthank you genii16:29
geniitempest: np16:29
BluesKajjosemanuel, open system settings/monitor&display/hardware/admin mode16:29
josemanuelok16:29
BluesKajjosemanuel, configure your graphics card and your monitor16:30
josemanuelbut. i have a laptop and i dont know the monitor16:31
josemanueli have a dell inspiron 172016:31
nosrednaekimjosemanuel: just put in a generic LCD of your resolution16:31
nosrednaekim*select.. not put in16:32
USMarineyeah, through system settings seems to work16:32
BluesKajconfig the graphics card if you know which make and model16:32
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BluesKajtoo many cooks here16:32
josemanuelnvidia 8600m gt16:32
jill_wine 0.9.59 is it good?16:32
BluesKajok josemanuel, look for it in the configure list16:33
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: not enough soups... so to speak :P16:33
BluesKajnosrednaekim, well, we don't want confusion16:34
jill_oh, it works... THANKS guys.. in the second times you are helping me.. thanks.16:34
kurohyouhi guys, does anybody know how i copy the content of a directory to a textfile?16:42
Pensacolals > dir.txt should work16:42
USMarinehmm16:43
USMarinels > textfile16:43
USMarinels >> textfile16:43
malrobonjour16:43
kurohyouthnx, i was fooling around with cat, but that's for merging things, forget it was so simpel16:44
USMarine!fr | malro16:44
ubottumalro: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr16:44
malrothanks for info16:45
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reesehi! when I try to upgrade from the alternate cd, it gives me an "Error authenticating some packages", and it lists a lot of packages. I'm on a 7.116:51
tzdflaccid: what was the name of your fw for your router again? Will go for that one instead i think16:52
* flaccid is back at home on a real S16:53
flaccidOS even16:53
flaccidtzd: dd-wrt16:53
tzdflaccid: ah thanks16:53
USMarinedd-wrt v2416:53
flaccidi believe it works with these models, just check. i was yet to flash it on the one at my g/f place, but i use it at home here on the linksys wrt54g16:54
USMarinecheck supported hardware page16:54
tzddef. will do :)16:54
USMarineif you have the default linksys firmware16:54
tzdhow do i get rid of my current custom fw by the way?16:54
USMarineyou have to update to the "mini" version first16:54
USMarinethen you can go to standard16:54
tzdi've got an asus router16:54
flaccidtzd: you don't want to get rid of it, you want to replace it.16:54
tzdflaccid: ok, then I should be able to just overwrite it right?16:55
flaccidwhich model exactly was it16:55
tzdWL-500gP16:55
tzdp as in premium16:55
USMarineit's supported16:55
flaccidhttp://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_WL-500g_Deluxe16:55
USMarinehow big is your flash memory?16:55
tzdsweet :) I suppose all open standards have the same stuff such as ftp servers, torrent clients etc?16:56
tzd32mb USMarine16:56
tzdthanks flaccid16:56
belzebubu sure? i think thats ram16:56
USMarinethat's the ram16:56
USMarinenot flash16:56
belzebub8mb flash maybe16:56
USMarineyeah16:56
USMarinemight be 816:56
USMarinehe can use the mega version16:56
tzdoh ok... hmm how do i find out the amount of flash then? :)16:57
flaccidtzd: and comments on this model on main install page too http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation16:57
flaccidlol there is a mega version? i use the vpn version atm16:57
USMarinehttp://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices16:57
USMarineyep16:58
USMarinebut only for 8mb+ devices16:58
tzdwill install vmware first but as soon as i've done that i'll head for this fw thing :)16:58
flaccidthey seem to use the std generic for your asus model on that wiki tzd..16:58
USMarinehttp://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=12&l2=43&l3=0&model=1121&modelmenu=116:58
USMarinethis one?16:58
tzdUSMarine: yes that's the one :) version 1... not v216:59
flaccidooo premo hehe16:59
philsfhello, does anybody know of a script to import/export kmail filters to procmail or maildrop?16:59
USMarinetzd you can have the mega firmware then16:59
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USMarinestandard+vpn+voip16:59
flaccidthat would make it a mega premium16:59
tzdUSMarine: ah that's good right? sounds cool :)17:00
flaccidwhat do you get with the voip ?17:00
flaccid^^ bad joke on my behalf there17:00
USMarinejust hard reset before and after flashing17:00
tzdwhat's included in "standard"? webserver, ftpserver, torrent, upnp mediaserver?17:00
USMarineLMAO17:01
tzdwhich version is dd-wrt at now?17:03
amerigo! WEB17:06
ubottuFactoid web not found17:06
amerigo! web17:06
USMarinehttp://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Asus_WL500G_Premium17:06
amerigo! site17:06
ubottuFactoid site not found17:06
reesewhat's the kde equivalent of System/Administration/Software Sources?17:08
amerigo! program17:08
ubottuFactoid program not found17:08
amerigo! programm17:08
ubottuFactoid programm not found17:08
USMarinereese ADEPT17:08
amerigo! games17:08
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php17:08
achille_hi "sudo apt-get install skype" install nothing to my kubuntu what is the dépot i need ?17:08
amerigo! software17:08
ubottuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents17:08
USMarinedeb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free17:09
USMarineor achille_ http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu17:10
achille_thx17:10
mefisto__or medibuntu repos17:10
BauldrickI'm trying to mount a PS2 drive on my box; sudo fdisk -l shows it but reads Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table17:11
USMarineyou have to known the partition type17:11
Dr_willisPlay station 2? I thought those were some special format also.17:11
reesefound it, thanks17:11
shane2perudoes anyone know of a way to import my tomboy notes into knotes?17:11
sgrahamhey guys...i got this problem with kdm.  When i log in it just restarts kdm.17:14
sgrahami think i have narrowed it down to a bad resolution size for the screen that displays the processes its loading17:14
sgrahamim just not sure where to adjust that?17:14
GeorgijHello I need help with G parted17:15
GeorgijWhen I install Windows as dual boot then I have to make another partition right?17:16
GeorgijHow can I make split my harddrive into 2 partitions?17:16
flaccidsgraham: create a test user first or rename your kde dir and login to test fresh kde profile17:17
Georgij?17:17
flaccidGeorgij: the installer can do it17:17
Georgijno17:17
flaccidi don't know the state of your disk(s)17:18
GeorgijI have 2 disks17:18
GeorgijAt the other disk I have my files and the other I have Ubuntu installed17:18
GeorgijBut I want to have windows installed at the same disk17:18
Georgijas ubunutu17:18
rophyguys ..i have a tv-out on an ATI card and i dunno how to make it work17:18
flaccidyes and is there unallocated space on the disk you want put the other os on?17:19
Georgijno17:19
Georgijthere is none17:19
GeorgijBut with gparted17:19
GeorgijI can make unallocated space17:19
flaccidis there free space on one of the filesystems to shrink?17:19
GeorgijI have 60gb17:19
blackflag!usb17:19
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent17:19
Georgij16017:19
Georgij160gb17:19
rophyi have a tv-out on an ATI card and i dunno how to make it work17:19
Georgiji want to split it to 80gb in each partition17:20
flaccidGeorgij: what type of fs is it that you have to shrink?17:20
rophyi have a tv-out on an ATI card and i dunno how to make it work17:20
Georgijext317:20
flaccidto make room for windows?17:20
sgrahamflaccid: ya we tried thatthe other day.17:20
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GeorgijFilesystem ext3 size 160gb17:21
mefisto__rophy: have you searched google for your particular ati card + tvout + ubuntu ?17:21
rophyno i didnt17:21
sgrahamno worky, i think its the screen that is displayed before any user info is grabed..its like the intermittant screen between the login and the user account being accessed17:21
sgrahamthat make any sence?17:21
sgrahamthe werid part is that gdm works fine17:22
flaccidsgraham: must be kdm or something17:22
Georgijso u cant help me or what?17:22
mefisto__rophy: unless you happen to have the same ati card as me (Radeon 9200), that's all I can suggest17:22
flaccidGeorgij: trying to remember what you can do with ext317:22
shane2perudoes anyone know how to transfer my tomboy notes to knotes?17:22
Greendingbathi17:23
rophyi have ati radeon but it's 7 smthng17:23
Greendingbatim kinda new to kubuntu, and i need some help with installing a web browser i just downloaded17:24
flaccidGeorgij: you might need to do it manually like this: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions17:24
mefisto__rophy: lspci should list your ati card (and other stuff)17:24
rophymefisto__: and what's the Ispci17:25
flaccidGeorgij: actually see comments on the bottom there17:25
mefisto__rophy: "lspci" is a command, type it in konsole17:25
rophyVGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]17:26
rophymefisto__:VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]17:27
roodogGreendingbat, what browser do you have?17:28
Greendingbati am trying to install Flock17:28
jhutchins_wkGreendingbat: Generally it's better to use the package managers to install software rather than manually downloading and installing things.17:28
jhutchins_wk!find flock17:29
ubottuFound: libfile-flock-perl17:29
Greendingbatoh17:29
Greendingbatthere it si17:29
Greendingbatis*17:29
Greendingbatsweet17:29
Greendingbatso, sudo apt-get install libfile-flock?17:29
Greendingbator something of that nature?17:29
Xbehave!identify17:29
ubottuYou can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, or a typo may give away your password. If that happened, type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.17:29
Xbehavehow do i get an identity?17:30
llutz!register17:30
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.17:30
XbehaveGreendingbat: i dont think that is flock17:30
jhutchins_wkGreendingbat: That's not the web browser, that's something else.17:31
Greendingbatwhat?17:31
Greendingbathttp://flock.com/17:31
Greendingbatit's a webbrowser17:31
Xbehaveflock is the firefox based browser right?17:31
Greendingbatyeah17:31
jhutchins_wkGreendingbat: Given that we don't appear to have a flock package available, you're probably best off finding their install instructions.17:31
Greendingbatk, i'll try that17:31
Greendingbathey, how do i get java?17:32
mefisto__Greendingbat: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Flock17:32
Greendingbati tried sudo apt-get install java17:32
Greendingbatit didn't work17:32
Xbehaveinstall firefox3  gnome support, then get their package and if its a deb just install it, if its a tar you can unpack it to opt, then link stuff manually17:32
Xbehavedisrigard my that just install the deb above17:33
Greendingbatnm, i think it'd just be easier to get firefox17:33
Greendingbatwait17:33
Greendingbati have the deb17:33
Greendingbati think17:33
mefisto__Greendingbat: for java, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre17:33
Greendingbatah17:33
Greendingbatthanks17:33
Greendingbatshould i open or save this deb file?17:34
Xbehavesave17:34
mefisto__Greendingbat: save it, then open it17:34
Greendingbatk17:34
Greendingbatim getting used to linux still17:35
Greendingbatit's pretty cool17:35
Greendingbatim running kubuntu 8.04 in a VM17:35
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mefisto__Greendingbat: apt-cache search "search term"    will list packages that match your search term17:35
mefisto__Greendingbat: then you can "sudo apt-get install package-name" whatever it is you want17:36
jhutchins_wk!java17:37
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper17:37
tyler_hey does kubuntu cd include a live cd.....and if it does how do i access that from the cd?17:38
jhutchins_wktyler_: The standard CD should be a bootable live CD.17:39
tyler_i think it was the one a few days before the final release17:39
tyler_it was like the final beta17:39
jhutchins_wktyler_: Put it in drive, reboot, enable boot-to-cd in BIOS, continue boot.17:39
Muzerhi17:40
Greendingbatsorry, just came back, what's this about java?17:40
MuzerIn the latest kubuntu I have a problem with rejoystick17:40
MuzerThe error I get:17:40
Muzer(!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use 'fbdev' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable.17:40
Muzer(!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use 'fbdev' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable.17:40
Muzerwhoops17:40
ubu84ciao17:40
Muzer(!) DirectFB/FBDev: Error opening framebuffer device!17:40
tyler_from the live cd how do i access my hard drive17:41
MuzerAlso, I can't even get qjoypad to install17:41
tyler_i need to edit my fstab17:41
Fyl0nanyone for audacious support?17:43
mefisto__tyler_: you need to mount the partition. eg, "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" will mount sda1 partition to the /mnt directory17:44
Fyl0nnm17:45
jhutchins_wkDO NOT MOUNT TO /MNT on a live CD.17:45
tyler_to late17:45
tyler_how do i change to the drive after i mount it17:45
tyler_like cd so i can access ect/fstab17:45
jhutchins_wkIt might not kill kubuntu, but it's generally a bad idea, there are things already mounted within /mnt on most lvie CDs.17:46
jhutchins_wktyler_: cd17:46
emilsedghDONT SHOUT jhutchins_wk!17:46
tyler_cd what17:46
tyler_cd /dev/sda1?17:46
_Shade_i have linksys wusb56gc wifi adapter. I have some problems on getting it work in adhoc mode17:46
mefisto__tyler_: cd /mnt/etc/17:46
jhutchins_wktyler_: cd /path/you/specified/to/mount17:47
Greendingbatemilsedgh: he was trying to stress a point17:47
_Shade_what should i do to get it working?17:47
Greendingbathe wasn't mad at anyone17:47
georgelothello everyone!!!17:47
georgeloti need help on vostro 1700 with kubuntu, please!17:48
jimmy51vinskymy usb drive is booting using syslinux, but i have to manually enter the kernel image line each time.  it doesn't appear that syslinux.cfg is being read.  what do i need to do to make sure syslinux reads and uses my cfg file?17:48
pimwhat would be a good calculator program to install?17:50
llutzpim speedcrunch17:50
mefisto__speedcrunch is installed by default, isn't it?17:51
Greendingbatyeah17:51
Greendingbatit is17:51
pimok17:51
llutzpim or kcalc17:51
Greendingbatwhich is kinda funny that they include two17:51
llutzone more ubuntu'ism17:52
mefisto__they are two different styles of calculator, though17:52
Greendingbatyeah17:52
pimok thanks17:53
Greendingbatspeedcrunch is faster, but not as good17:53
Greendingbatas in, it doesn't have as many features17:53
Greendingbathey, how do i get a .deb file to install17:53
mefisto__Greendingbat: really? I haven't noticed17:53
llutzmefisto__: so you mean they should inlcude kwriter, abiword and some more wordprocessors, because the are "different styles"? ;)17:54
mefisto__Greendingbat: double-click should open gdebi, which installs the .deb17:54
Greendingbatllutz: no, i don't think he means that17:54
Greendingbathe was just stating something17:54
mefisto__llutz: if wordprocessors were as trivial (size-wise) as calculator programs, they probably would17:55
mefisto__dunno how different those word processors are though17:55
Greendingbatyeah, dclicking opens up the package installer, but when i click install package, it starts working, but then nothing happens17:55
Greendingbatin fact, it opens up the package installer again17:56
Greendingbatwhich then dissapears17:56
mefisto__Greendingbat: I think "sudo dpkg -i package.deb" will install it too17:59
Greendingbatit didn't work18:01
GreendingbatPlayer 1 E: 3 S: 26 A: 46    1    118:01
GreendingbatPlayer 2 E: 2 S: 32 A: 46    318:01
Greendingbatwhoops18:01
Greendingbatsorry18:01
Greendingbatwrong paste18:01
Greendingbatsudo: dpkg-i: command not found18:01
Greendingbatthat's the error i get18:02
llutzdpkg -i   with space18:02
Greendingbatah thanks18:02
Greendingbatgreat18:02
Greendingbatnow there's an error with the package itself18:02
llutzpaste it to !pastebin18:02
llutz!paste18:02
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)18:02
Muzerhow do you "set the $FRAMEBUFFER environment variable"18:03
MuzerI know how to set it18:03
Muzerwhat do you set it too?18:03
advancedhi18:05
advancedi have some problem18:05
advancedis here anyone ? who can me help ? :)18:06
llutz!ask18:07
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)18:07
achille_advanced: never who can ask the question !18:07
advancedok :-D18:08
advancedI have problem with flash videos....sound with flash videos doesnt work18:08
advancedwho can me help ?18:11
Greendingbati think you mean "who can help me?"18:12
_Shade_what packages do i need to get ndiswrapper? i mean its dependencies since i am going to set up my network but i have no dvd iso to get it18:12
jussi01!ndiswrapper | _Shade_:18:15
ubottu_Shade_:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:15
advancedwho can help me ? :(18:15
advancedplease18:15
jussi01!repeat | advanced18:15
ubottuadvanced: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience18:15
Greendingbatadvance: do you have the flash plugin?18:17
Tophathail satan.18:17
GreendingbatWTF?18:17
Tophatword.18:18
Greendingbatyou are a strange person18:18
jussi01Tophat: can we help you somehow?18:18
Tophatno sir. you are!18:18
Greendingbatdo you have any point in coming here?18:18
Greendingbator do you just want to bug us with your satanic crap?18:18
Tophatyeah man, im always in here dude.18:18
Tophatcalm down dude, just an afternoon joke.  no biggie.18:18
advancedI have flash plugin...video work but without sound18:18
Greendingbatare you running kubuntu naitivly?18:19
jussi01!o4o > Tophat18:19
advancedyes18:19
Greendingbatdo you have the current drivers for your speakers?18:19
podr0znikGood evening all :)18:19
Tophat!040 > Jussi0118:19
Greendingbatevening?18:19
Greendingbatwhere i live it's morning18:19
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podr0znikGood morning to you then, Greendingbat :)18:20
podr0znikUS?18:20
Greendingbatgood evening to you18:20
Greendingbatyeah18:20
Greendingbatwell, that doesn't mean anything18:20
GreendingbatUS is big enough that it could be evening on one side18:20
podr0znikhmm... not that big huh?18:21
podr0znik3 hours difference between east & west coast, right?18:21
advancedi mean yes18:21
advancedspeak works normally with amarok example...but no with videos18:21
advancedflash videos18:21
podr0znikawww... how nice... the product I bought supports Windows Vista :P18:22
mefisto__advanced: do you have more than one sound card?18:22
jussi01podr0znik: This channel is for Kubuntu support. If you just would like to chat, please head over to #kubuntu-offtopic18:22
advancedno...only integrated sound card18:23
Tophatadvanced - open terminal and type in lspci and copy what your sound car is and all in here18:23
podr0znikjussi01: you're right - I was not ready with unpacking yet, but my question will come18:23
Tophatpodr0znik - dont worry about him.  he's mean.18:23
podr0znikTophat: But rules are necessary, especially in a place with many children18:23
podr0znikanyway... I was wondering if sb would have time to walk me through the installation of a label printer I bought today18:24
advancedhow copy _18:24
advanced?18:24
advancedI cannot because bot kick me for flood18:24
Tophatadvanced goto the paste bin18:24
Tophatpaste.ubuntu.com18:24
jussi01!paste| advanced18:24
ubottuadvanced: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)18:24
advancedhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15829/18:25
shane2peruquick question, how can I setup the extra buttons on my keyboard?  Like the music button to start amarok?18:27
jussi01!shortcuts | shane2peru18:27
ubottushane2peru: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts18:27
shane2peruin Gnome, I know exactly how to do this. :)18:27
Tophatadvanced - can you get sound from anything else like an mp3 file or such?18:28
shane2peruthanks jussi01    I guess I should ask the bot these simple things lol :)18:28
advancedyes18:28
podr0znikthere's with big letters on the printer "install software first" but software is only included for MS and Mac18:28
advancedonly flash videos doesnt work18:28
podr0znikshould I first find software on the net then?18:28
jussi01podr0znik: what printer ios it?18:28
Tophatpodr0znik - plug it in. itll probably work.18:28
podr0zniklabel printer, Brother QL-50018:29
Tophatouch. we got those here at work.   i dont like it. ><18:29
jussi01advanced: try this: =25542218:29
jussi01grr18:29
mefisto__shane2peru: in systemsettings > regional & language > keyboard layout, you can choose "keyboard model" if your is in the list, or something close18:29
jussi01advanced: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25542218:29
podr0znikTophat: Hm, I hope I will be happier then18:29
advancedok :D18:29
Tophatyeah its good as long as everyone doesn't want to be networked to it! haha, it was just such a hassle trying to get all the girls in the office to be on it at once.18:30
shane2perumefisto__: well, I haven't had the luck of ever finding my keyboard before, maybe I should check again, thanks18:30
advancedquick question...18:30
advancedgksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc...what i must do with this ? I dont understand18:31
podr0znikTophat: Oh, I won't have that problem here :)18:31
jhutchins_wkpodr0znik: The "Install software first" is because windows will install the wrong thing if you just plug it in.18:31
Tophatadvanced - open terminal and type that in.18:31
advanceddoestn work18:31
MuzerCan anyone reccommend a good joystick --> keyboard mapper?18:31
Tophatoh sorry change gedit to kedit18:31
jussi01podr0znik: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-QL-50018:31
MuzerI seem to be having bad luck18:31
advancedthanks...i am noob :-/18:32
jussi01kedit Tophat???18:32
jussi01kate or kwrite18:32
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Tophathahahaha18:32
Tophatthanks jussi0118:32
shadowmanubuntu..com is down18:32
MuzerI've tried rejoystick, qjoypad, xjoypad, and joy2key18:32
Muzerthe only one that works is joy2key18:32
advancedtell me please correectly command :-D18:32
Muzerand that's an arse to use18:32
advancedplease18:32
Tophatshadowman try ubuntu.com instead. :P18:32
shadowmanthat one i ment:)18:32
shadowmantry and c 4 urself18:33
Muzerso, has anybody got one to recommend?18:33
frybyehi after a crash the system has changed from german language/region etc to us english and has no other languages and will not install any etc... what now_18:33
advancedWhat i must with this ? gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc18:33
Tophatshadowman - thats weird.18:34
shadowmanyep18:34
frybyethis also happed once before todayh and I restored an image but cant do that every five minutes...-18:34
Tophatadvanced i sent you and IM18:34
shadowmanfrybye: try apt-get autoclean and autoremove, and then, reinstall the language packages18:35
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frybyeany ideas on how to get the system to so that is two things to run / once with apt/get autoclean and then apt/get autoremove / sorrz the kezboard is all wrong here...18:35
[A]Lihi there18:36
philsfis it possible to leave kio-pop3 running if kmail/kontact is not?18:36
[A]Lii had installed the KDE for Ubuntu18:36
shadowmananyone know why ubuntu.com is down?18:36
[A]Libut i have the older version of KDE18:36
Picishadowman: Its being looked into18:36
shadowmanfrybye: sudo apt-get autoclean18:36
shadowmanfrybye: sudo apt-get autormeove18:36
shadowmanfrybye: agter those two commands, reinstall packages18:37
[A]Lii want the new 1 4.018:37
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[A]Lihow can i get the new one?18:37
jussi01!kde418:37
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde418:37
mefisto__advanced: you are following the ubuntu.com howto for flash, right?18:37
shadowmanPici: ok. thanx18:37
Tophatmefisto__ im walking him through it now18:38
[A]Lithey had send me here18:38
[A]Lihow can i update to kde 4?18:39
jussi01[A]Li: I did not send you here18:39
[A]Lijussi01: topic: if you are running KDE3, please go to #kubuntu18:40
shadowmanubuntu.com is back18:41
advancedwho know how to : Enable other discs when i start linux ?18:42
mefisto__I'm getting apt errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15779/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/15780/ Trying to remove or reinstall gives similar errors. Any suggestions?18:43
podr0znikhm, I plugged in the usb cable and surprisingly enough just nothing happens18:43
frankliniwant talk in spanish18:43
franklinany one speak spanish18:44
paula_hola18:44
franklinholapaula18:44
paula_que tal?18:44
franklineres kubuntera18:44
franklinke bien18:44
_CrashMaster_!es18:44
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.18:44
franklinde donde eres paula18:44
* philsf loves these ircbots18:45
podr0znikTophat: Any idea which one I should choose on http://www.diku.dk/~panic/P-touch/ ?18:46
_CrashMaster_podr0znik: You most likely want the source tarball18:47
podr0znikI want the version for morons who don't know what to do :)18:47
Tophatpodr0znik - download18:48
podr0znikyes, done18:48
podr0zniknow for sure unpack it somehow18:48
Tophatpodr0znik - download the tar.gz source tarball18:48
podr0znikok, it opens with Ark18:48
podr0znikand on top there's a ptouch.xml file18:49
Tophatopen up terminal and navigate to the directory where its stored at18:49
podr0znikI assume that's the driver?18:49
Tophatnope.18:49
podr0znikoh ok18:49
Tophatill im you.18:49
mefisto__Anyone seen these apt errors before?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15779/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/15780/18:51
shane2perumefisto__: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install18:53
shane2perumefisto__: there is something messed up with your apt. :)  Do you have disk space?  are you out of room?18:54
shane2perumefisto__: the apt-get  -f install (without package name) tries to fix whatever the problem is.18:54
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mefisto__shane2peru: I have disk space, and the -f option gives the same errors18:56
bleakedso last night one of my hard drives became full.  i decided to move (as in mv) a larger directory to a second hard drive.  during the move, we had a thunderstorm (i know, bad time to move) and the power went out.  today, all of the data seems fine, so far, but the results of the move are a bit confusing.  the source location is 29 gb, and the destination directory is 18 gb.  both have the same folders and a lot of the same files.  i'm18:56
bleakeda bit confused as to how the mv program actually works.  looking at the man page, i see there is the update option, which i tried, but when i do it, it wants to overwrite one of the main sub directories -- should i allow this, or am i risking it overwriting from a partially moved source directory?  or does the mv program copy first, then delete afterward?18:56
shane2perumefisto__: hmm, that really doesn't look good!  I have never seen that one before. :)18:56
Xiana_hello, i need the name of de channel about coruña18:57
mefisto__shane2peru: after googling a bit, I've seen it before, but haven't found a solution for it18:57
advancedhow to enabled disks when i start kubunt u? :(18:57
DrakeJusticeadvanced: look at the folder $HOME/.kde/Autostart, learn how to make .desktop files... and have fun learning...18:59
shane2perubleaked: I would try cp -rv source destination   that would ensure all data is copied over18:59
blackflagI have an external usb hd which is very slow, I tried sync but that doesnt help. Can someone help?18:59
bleakedshane2peru: ok thank you18:59
advancedlol xD19:00
advancedthanks19:00
shane2perubleaked: I mean, I avoid using mv for large things like that because of problems I have had similar19:00
mildnerhi..how to add a new user on kubuntu64 kd4 ?19:00
advancedi cannot found19:01
advanced$HOME/.kde/Autostart19:01
advanced:(19:01
bleakedshane2peru: yea, looking back, i can see why it's a bad idea with larger things19:02
mefisto__advanced: replace $HOME with ~19:02
shane2perubleaked: it is great for small moves or smaller files, just not for that much data. :)19:02
advancedwhere ? :-D19:03
advanced!themes19:04
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:04
advancedhmmmm ?19:05
philsf2n try: is it possible to leave kio-pop3 running if kmail/kontact is not?19:06
nazgjunkAnyone got experience with midi not quite working (nothing errors, but I'm not getting any sound) with Intel HDA sound cards - specifically on a Thinkpad t60p?19:09
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mefisto__nazgjunk: you have timidity installed?19:10
nazgjunki... had, playing it through that didn't help19:10
jhutchins_wknazgjunk: does alsamixer run in the console?19:16
nazgjunkyup19:16
nazgjunkgah, for now I'll just convert the thing to mp3 with some external service19:18
mefisto_nazgjunk: sorry, I got disconnected after I asked, do you have anything set in "select MIDI device" in systemsettings?19:19
jill_hi, why kexi crushes on mdb database importing? i have a driver, but it anyway doesnt works19:20
nazgjunkI do, yeah19:20
mefisto_nazgjunk: timidity?19:20
nazgjunkyes19:20
mefisto_nazgjunk: you could try restarting timidity with "sudo /etc/init.d/timidity restart" then try again. that's worked for me in the past19:22
nazgjunkconsidering I've rebooted in the mean time I doubt that it'll help, but giving it a shot19:22
nazgjunknot doing a thing, no. Simon says wtf.19:26
Rioting_Pacifistwhen i write bad python and kill it, my memory gets freed but my swap still stays about hlf full19:26
pjfloydsudo gives "pam_authenticate:Conversion error" - any ideas why and/or a solution?19:29
pjfloydit seems perhaps related to using ksh as my shell19:30
pjfloydsudo seems to work in bash19:31
jussi01pjfloyd: I usually get that when I cancel a sudo command19:31
jill_kexi with mdb driver doesnt works with access database? why?19:31
mefisto_jill_: why? probably because there is something wrong :P19:34
pjfloydI think I'll just put it down to the usual Linux brokenness - something that was only tested with bash 'because that is what everyone uses'19:35
jill_mefisto, okay what is it may be?19:35
icqnumber!java19:36
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper19:36
pjfloydshutdown now just caused a kernel panic ;-(19:36
icqnumber!konqueror19:37
ubottuFactoid konqueror not found19:37
icqnumberi have in my /etc/jvm file enties with java 1.5 but i have only 1.6 installed how comes19:41
BluesKaj!info Konqueror19:42
ubottukonqueror (source: kdebase): KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2 (hardy), package size 1921 kB, installed size 5264 kB19:42
icqnumberand java ist not working in konquerer, any ideas?19:43
icqnumberalso have seen this links https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JavaInstallation and java19:45
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taafisis there any way to replace kpdf with okular?19:54
taafisin kubuntu 8.04 that is19:55
tempestdo you mean make it default ?19:55
taafisyeah19:55
icqnumberi have in my /etc/jvm file enties with java 1.5 but i have only 1.6 installed how comes19:56
nosrednaekimtaafis: you can alias "kpdf" to /usr/lib/kde4/bin/okular19:56
taafisallright, thanks :)19:56
icqnumberwhat is about you ppl?19:56
taafisicqnumber, what do you mean?19:57
* icqnumber feels that ppl are ignoring him19:57
icqnumbertaafis: what kind of enties do u have in ur /etc/jvm file?19:58
taafisi dont use jvm19:59
taafisah19:59
taafisi thought you meant jwm19:59
taafiswell, havent installed jvm yet19:59
icqnumbertaafis: i want sun java support in konqueror, i had to edit this file by hand19:59
taafisaint gonna do it until i need it :)19:59
mefisto_icqnumber: I have the same as you, but it all works19:59
icqnumbermefisto_: do u have java 1.5 istalled may be too?20:00
mefisto_icqnumber: I don't know if it works in konqueror. and no, just 1.6 like you20:00
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icqnumbermefisto_: it do now works in konqueror for me after i have placed by hand /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.0620:01
icqnumberlooks like it is a one small bug :-P20:01
icqnumbertaafis: do u have entries with sun 1.5 in ur file?20:02
taafisi dont have java installed20:02
icqnumbertaafis:  it does not matter20:02
icqnumberplease check it out20:03
taafisi dont have java installed, so i dont have a jvm dir20:03
mefisto_icqnumber: my java works in konqueror without any changes to /etc/jvm20:04
icqnumbertaafis: just type: gedit /etc/jvm it is a file and it there by default20:04
taafisits not here i've said20:05
icqnumbermefisto_: yes it works, but which java, free version or from sun?20:05
icqnumbertaafis:  free java is installed by default20:06
mefisto_I have sun java-6-sun-1.6.0.06 installed, but /etc/jvm only has java-1.5.0-sun20:07
taafisits not here atleast20:07
taafisit wasn't installed on my kubuntu-install by default20:08
PiciYou may need to use sudo update-alternatives --config java20:08
icqnumbermefisto_: what do u get: java -version20:08
icqnumberPici: i did that but that was not a problem20:08
icqnumberPici: that problem is a wronf /etc/jvm file20:09
icqnumberwrong*20:09
mefisto_icqnumber: java version "1.6.0_06"20:10
frybyeHi I have had to restore from an image 3 times now - untill it has occured to me what it is that is screwing the installation up - adept offers some updates and when they are installed and a re-boot is done then the system is screwed...20:10
frybyehow can I get rid of the adept icon and just ignore this stuff that is screwing up the system...?20:11
nosrednaekimfrybye: don't accept updates20:11
nosrednaekimand you can uninstall adept20:11
mefisto_frybye: I think if you right-click the icon you can exit, and it will ask if you want it to start when kde starts20:12
Ayabaracan someone recommend a nice dark theme for kde 3.5?20:12
frybyenosred20:13
frybyenosrednaekim: generally I suppose one usually does do updates or.. these are bad for sure...20:13
frybyeis it a good idea to unistall adept...?20:13
nosrednaekimussually they do not harm you.... but its probably a kernel bug/change which doesn't like your hardware20:14
nosrednaekimfrybye: well, just uninstall adept_updater20:14
frybyei c... so I can just use that command in the terminal - uninstall adept_updater   right?20:15
frybyewith    sudo I guess?20:15
nosrednaekimno... its "sudo apt-get remove adept-updater"20:15
Ginhi, are there packages for kde 4.1 already?20:17
pimI don't think so20:17
frybyecool - next weds. I have a linux expert here - he will have a look at the problem then perhaps - but this will be good to avoid more problems right now...20:17
nosrednaekimok20:17
nosrednaekimGin: not yet!20:17
frybyehim and I are doing a knowledge swap... he gets english i get linux...20:18
Hoenikkerare we there yet?20:18
nosrednaekimHoenikker: don't try to pull the theory of relativity on us20:18
frybyegin - there is an alpa out there but not too stable from what I read...20:18
frybyegin - but perhaps not as a package or..?20:18
frybyeah look it is eric come back to plague us hehehe20:19
frybyelag??20:23
ubuntu___the 70s20:29
ubuntu___is fry bye gonna kill HRE parenets?20:29
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frybyeubuntu sorry i did not understand that..?20:34
frybyebut the pace for this is kub-off-topic or?20:35
jpdsfrybye: he's gone20:35
frybyei c - thanks...+20:35
jpdsbitte20:35
ubuntu___yeah well the conversation died20:35
xenol!de | jpds20:35
ubottujpds: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:35
jpdsxenol: I was saying "you're welcome"?20:36
nosrednaekimyeah jpds yeah....just get out of here, would you already? :P20:36
xenoljpds: heh sorry then, tho "bitte" is deutsch so i thought...20:37
jpdsxenol: no prob :)20:38
sigma_1234nixternal: whats the eta on the 4.1 packages looking like? you know we are dying to install it:)20:39
nixternalsigma_1234: by this weekend...I should have the core modules definitely completed today with some of the other modules...the rest of the modules and extragear should be completed over the weekend20:40
nixternaleither by me or someone else as I might head out of town tomorrow20:40
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sigma_1234nixternal: is kontact kde4 going to be compiled as well?20:41
jill_people i need help20:41
frybyere.. on the kub pc again now...20:41
jill_can you?20:41
nosrednaekimjill_: whats up?20:41
nixternalsigma_1234: yes20:42
jill_i have a bad scaner, mustek bearPaw 2448CU PRO, and i need to use it in kubuntu 710, i cant20:42
jill_i sitting on it 2 hours20:42
jill_just dont know why it doesnt works20:43
nosrednaekim!hardware20:43
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection20:43
jill_okay20:44
makaveli__l20:44
nosrednaekimjill_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersMustek20:44
sigma_1234nixternal: i have always wondered. why does it take so long to compile a package? it takes you guys days on the big crucial ones hey?20:44
jhutchins_wksigma_1234: Ever try gentoo?20:45
jill_noswednaekimm kay, thanks, loading page20:45
sigma_1234jill_: are you south african?20:45
jill_no20:45
jill_i am russian20:45
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xenolanyone know what do i need to set on windows so i can access my shares on windows box w/o password?20:46
sigma_1234jhutchins_wk: nope. is it any diff to kubuntu? ive seen screenshots of it i think20:46
jhutchins_wkjill_: Scanners are mostly handled by the sane package/project.  You can find their webpage (probably through sourceforge) to see if they support your printer.20:46
jill_nosrednaekim, there are only four links.. i have 2448 and kubuntu 710, i think it is impossilbe20:47
sigma_1234asked because mustek is a south african brand20:47
jhutchins_wksigma_1234: The thing about gentoo is it doesn't have binary packages, it has special source packages, and the package manager compiles each program with a template you can customise for your particular hardware and use.20:47
frybyeI dont beleive this - it has happened again the region changed to us-english and no way to change etc...20:47
jhutchins_wksigma_1234: Still, you could take a look at the kernel compile instructions and give it a try - you won't hurt anything - just to see how much of a  chore it is.20:48
frybyeanybody heard of a prob with the nvidia 8400 chip and proprietary driver...20:48
frybye___20:48
jhutchins_wksigma_1234: For a big package like the kernel, it can take quite a while to compile.20:48
reeseafter adding new repos, the command is apt-get update?20:48
nosrednaekimreese: yep20:48
jhutchins_wksigma_1234: For smaller, simpler packages, a few minutes.20:48
navetzis there a way to do cp ./* ~/* and not replace files that already exist but rather give it a new filename?20:48
frybye?20:49
frybyesigma - mustek is from canada as far as i know...20:49
jill_if i will use 2400 insted of 2448 any problems maybe?20:49
jill_where shell i move *.usb file?20:50
jill_i have it on desktop20:50
reesenosrednaekim: and it updates adept, too?20:51
sigma_1234jhutchins_wk: im too scared to try compile kde4. i saw the instructions on the kde site but they scared me to death. hopefully one day a automated package compiling system can exist to save devs valuable time20:51
nosrednaekimreese: yep.. it all uses apt20:51
nosrednaekimjill_: it said on that hardware page where the other people moved them20:52
taafissigma_1234, isnt kde4 in backports?20:52
jill_okay, sorry20:52
sigma_1234frybye: www.mustek.co.za dunno perhaps ours is a subsidiary. its listed on our stock exchange though20:52
msnbothow to instal Opera in kubuntu20:53
jill_www.kubuntu.ru20:53
jill_there20:53
jill_in downloads menu20:53
msnbotapt-get install opera says "E: Package opera hs no installation candidate" :(20:53
nosrednaekim!opera20:54
ubottuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser20:54
sigma_1234taafis: i have kde4. im looking for kde 4.120:54
taafisoh, ok ;p20:54
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: how about the daily VM?20:54
taafisisnt kde4 quite unstable?20:56
malik_hi all,20:56
taafisi also noticed that the search-filed beside the area where you type url is gone20:56
malik_i just installed kubuntu 8.04 on my new computer, it has a onboard nvidia 7100 630i20:56
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: nope bandwidth is way to pricey to me. when i downloaded kde4 it was about a hundred megs. thats the max i can take at a time. thats also why i can't really compile it. all those dev packages would kill my bill20:57
malik_i was unable to install  the nvidia driver inspite of all my efforts.20:57
taafisin konqueror that is20:57
malik_Can i install atleat any generic svga driver to have better resolution ??20:57
nosrednaekimmalik_: what res are you getting now?20:57
malik_i have a resolution probably 640x48020:58
Ayabarawhere can I change the font color in kicker?20:58
malik_i need atleast some higher resolution if not exact nvidia features20:58
reesemalik: have you tried to update the repos and apt-get nvidia-glx-new?20:58
Ayabaraand, if I want dark background in my kde-apps, it's a color scheme I'm looking for, right?20:59
malik_yes tried every thing and in the logs i see that the bios is reporting something wrong id for my nvidia onboard card20:59
nosrednaekimAyabara: yeah20:59
nosrednaekimwrong PCI-ID?20:59
sigma_1234taafis: the only gripe i have about 4.0.3 was that the plasma always ran weird errors when i launched a kde3 program. and dolphin had some minor issues . other then that it was rock solid. and im expecting 4.1 to be more so20:59
malik_yes20:59
nosrednaekimmalik_: ah.... ok, can you pastebin two things for me? lspci and the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:00
malik_yes wait a moment please21:00
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nosrednaekimsigma_1234: 4.1 is even more beautiful than 4.0 :)21:00
Ayabaraany recommendations for a dark color scheme? I've applied the Azenia theme pack, but it didn't have a dark scheme21:01
nosrednaekimAyabara: for kde3? no.... kde4 has some beautiful ones21:01
Ayabaranosrednaekim: ah. I'm waiting for the kde4.1 packages21:01
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: are you running kde 4.1?21:02
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: in a VM21:02
malik_hello, i have placed the files here http://patteriol.dps.uibk.ac.at/~malik/xorg/21:03
malik_nosrednaekim: can you get the files from the link above please..21:04
nosrednaekimyep21:04
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: is it possible for you to take me a screenshot of kontact kde4 ? the one on the kde site was from in windows so looked a bit off.21:04
sigma_1234the kmail screen in particular21:05
nosrednaekimsure21:05
sigma_1234thanks:)21:05
nosrednaekimmalik_: wow.. ok, lots of problems there21:06
malik_yes21:06
malik_please if u can help me out21:06
nosrednaekimlet me clean that up for you21:06
malik_i will be grateful21:06
malik_i have been messing up with it using lots of tutorials available online21:07
nosrednaekimyeah... lets go basic here.21:07
malik_yes21:07
Ayabarais it possible to configure the font color for the tabs in konsole? they didn't follow my color theme..21:08
malik_when i try installing the restricted driver using the hardware driver manager in kubuntu, at the reboot xserver hangs up at starting the bootup scripts /etc/init.d/rc.local21:08
titan_is there a linux podcast other than that prillo dude who21:09
nosrednaekimmalik_: ah... I was just about to ask you if you could get the driver installed21:10
nosrednaekimmalik_: ok, we'll go to "nv" instead21:10
TazaIs there an easy-to-use interface for wine for kubuntu?21:10
malik_how do i do that ?21:11
malik_brb21:11
TazaMy brother wants to play stuff like COD4 on his computer, but I'm DONE fixing it over and over and over again so I'm installing him Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 Remix21:11
Taza(How stable is the KDE4 remix?)21:11
nosrednaekimTaza: stable... but not as many features and some annoyances as well21:11
nosrednaekimmalik_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15859/ replace your xorg.conf with that21:11
Tazanosrednaekim: Would the annoyances bother a home user who knows nothing about Linux?21:12
sigma_1234Taza: wait for 4.121:12
TazaOr are they like "when I recompile X KDE4's weather widget refuses to start"?21:12
nosrednaekimTaza: maybe, maybe not.... but kde3 does have a nice easy wine manager21:12
Tazasigma_1234: Not if you are unwilling to explain why.21:12
nosrednaekim:P21:12
Tazanosrednaekim: That might be a major selling point. :P21:12
malik_yes i do it now21:14
Taza"When I try to run YAEWS after changing to an Xfree86 from 2004 and compiling it with optimizations in the desktop replacement transparent terminal, Amarok causes the weather widget to flicker whenever I refresh it"21:14
sigma_1234Taza: plasma in 4.0 has a few annoying bugs. tends to freeze the desktop for periods21:14
Tazasigma_1234: Thanks, that's useful to know.21:14
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: have you posted that screenshot for me yet?21:15
nosrednaekimah! sorry :)21:15
Taza(What "annoyances" usually mean when it comes to stable KDE stuff.)21:15
TazaHow's the "Nifty widget status" for KDE4?21:15
jhutchins_wkTaza: There are a lot of components and programs that haven't been ported to 4 yet.  You get a slightly different look, some different features, and nowhere near as much software.21:15
jhutchins_wkTaza: As it stands now, KDE4 is mostly just a demo.21:16
Tazajhutchins_wk: k.21:16
TazaI mostly use Xfce4 myself, so I wouldn't know21:16
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TazaI just know my bro will love Amarok and he won't have the patience I had with Xfce4 and Amarok21:16
jhutchins_wk3.5.x is still the pick for "I have work to do with this computer".21:16
tempestIs there a way to check that the onboard video card is disabled ?21:16
Tazatempest: lspci?21:16
jhutchins_wkTaza: re: the brother: you might consider ltsp or keeping a restore image.21:16
malik_nosrednaekim: should i restart the X server now ?21:17
nosrednaekimyes21:17
Tazajhutchins_wk: Actually, I'm first installing linux and then running Windows in VMware with dd'd backup images.21:17
malik_ok, please wait i will be back21:17
tempesttaza i'll try ive somewhat made myself confused trying to get it right21:17
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: lol...the VM died...21:17
Tazatempest: If it normally shows up in lspci and it doesn't after you've disabled it - congrats, it has been disabled.21:17
TazaIf it shows up, it hasn't been disabled.21:18
sigma_1234lol21:18
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Taza(Of course, if you only want to disable the output...)21:18
tempesttaza it is still there21:18
tempestive only been using kubuntu for a month21:19
Tazatempest: And you were trying to disable it fully? You didn't succeed.21:19
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tim__taza: currently using kde4. It is usable as a window manager, but its deeply unfinished. You cant move widgets around the kicker bar without removing them all first, it freezes and crashes about once a day, and apart from the theming, which you can have in 3 if you configure it, the features arnt really there yet. On the plus, there is some nice compiz type stuff integrated, and some of the widgets have a different feel.21:19
tim__Personaly I'm continuing to use it because its not inconvenient enough to bother rolling back.21:19
tempestlol taza i can see that21:19
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: np i found one at ars technica. it looks cool just the print icon is ancient compared to kde 3. suppose that came from reinventing the wheel:(21:20
Tazatim__: Thanks, that's all I need.21:20
Tazatim__: I might like 4 but my brother wants 3 based on that.21:20
nosrednaekim:)21:20
TazaOf course I don't touch KDE myself.21:20
tempestso now what do i do so that it will use the nvidia and not the onboard ?21:21
TazaIf the screen is small, Xfce4, if the screen is large... wmii. <3 <3 <321:21
Taza(So fine, I'm a HARDCORE user. I might install Kubuntu and then wmii on it though.)21:21
tim__xfce, why did I ever stop...21:22
TazaAs it is, I'm forced to use Xubuntu. ;_;21:22
TazaBecause I'm on an Eee.21:22
tim__but xfce is da win21:22
titan_forced to use?21:22
TazaAnd I don't want a designed-for-5-year-olds interface. I want to get work done.21:22
Tazatitan_: No space for Kubuntu / Ubuntu.21:23
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: whats that mobile phone section in kontact for? any hope of built in win mobile syncing this time round?:-)21:23
TazaIn fact, not even space for Xubuntu + KDE21:23
titan_k is just the KDE envio21:23
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: maybe some integration with kpilot there...21:23
titan_LOL wasnt reading the post.. lmao21:24
titan_xubuntu is the smallest fo the three right?21:24
mefisto_Taza: what about advanced desktop mode on the eee? I mean with the default xandros install21:24
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Tazamefisto_: Xandros? Eww.21:24
TazaI want compatibility and that's something Xandros doesn't offer.21:25
TazaI have Xubuntu + Amarok + Wine for most of the sw I want.21:25
titan_in the movie hackers21:26
mefisto_just that the eee has all that, just not the kde desktop (until it's enabled)21:26
sigma_1234thank g*d theres a way to disable that widget adder in the corner. its so irritating when it pops out everytime you close a fullscreen window21:26
titan_what was Dade Murphys computer? that he used to hack into the tv station21:26
nosrednaekim!ot21:26
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:26
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sigma_1234and dolphin got tabs:) its on21:30
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mefisto_sigma_1234: is this dolphin on kde4?21:32
sigma_1234yeah. 4.121:33
ctionParsniphey all21:34
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: dunno if you are one for eyecandy... but some of the kwin stuff is looking nice21:34
nosrednaekimctionParsnip: hey! where did the A go?21:35
ctionParsnipdunno man :(21:35
ctionParsnipim just seting up fluxubuntu :)21:35
ctionParsnipits sweet21:35
ctionParsnipi'm just modifying /etc/samba/smbusers21:36
ctionParsnipbut im confused by the syntax21:36
malik_nosrednaekim: i m back the Xserver dint start21:36
nosrednaekimmalik_: any errors?21:36
malik_i had only one cursor blinking there21:36
ctionParsnipI have a website saying it needs <username> = "<username>"21:36
nosrednaekimhow did you restart it?21:36
ctionParsnipso do i need to have: andy = "andy" in it?21:37
malik_then i rebooted in  recovery mode and did xfix to get this gui again21:37
ctionParsnipcan anyone advise21:37
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: id love to see it but it doesnt ever work for me even though i have the nvidia drivers installed21:37
ctionParsnipive ran sudo smbpasswd -a <username>21:37
ctionParsnipand created an andy account21:38
nosrednaekimmalik_: and stoll on 640x480?21:38
malik_yes :(21:38
jhutchins_wkctionParsnip: Read the samba docs.  You set up smb passwords with the smbpasswd program I believe.21:38
malik_what should i do now ?21:39
ctionParsnipjhutchins_wk: done, but i need to create the file accoriding to http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/21:39
nosrednaekimmalik_: apparently this card needs a proprietary driver... some of those inbuilt ones do21:40
malik_there is none provided on the mainboard manufacturer's site. on the nvidia website there is generic driver for nivida gefore 7 series21:41
frybyere: what is the probable reason for the region switching from germany to us-english and there being no way to change it to any other language.. if I try to change or add locations it says "command not found"??21:41
nosrednaekimbut apparently you also have problems with the proprietary driver.... sounds like a problem21:41
malik_where can i get the properietry driver ?21:41
nosrednaekimmalik_: the one from repositories...21:41
nosrednaekimsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new21:42
nosrednaekimor use the restricted drivers manager21:42
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: have you tried compiling amarok 2 in kde4.1?21:42
malik_i tried this with add remove programs and triedm nvidia-newm and nvidia-old both , but none worked21:42
frybyeif the system-configuration device is broken - how can it be re-installed or similar...?21:42
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: nope.... but I have Neon21:42
tempestnvidia is just a pain21:43
malik_:p21:43
nosrednaekimmalik_: uhhg....21:43
nosrednaekimok... lets see if we can squeeze some higher resolutions out of this vesa driver21:43
frybyetempest: I would tend to agree.. my system seems screwed since I upgraded today from onboard nvidia 6100 to a pci-e 8400 grafic card...21:43
sigma_1234i dont like neon. its like running kde4 in kde4. the fonts are all stuffed up21:44
malik_yes that would be great at this time..21:44
mefisto_tempest: I thought ati was a pain21:44
maduserwhere are the boot scripts?21:44
maduserI mean the place to make sure apps exec at boot21:44
nosrednaekim /etc/rc.local I think21:45
frybyeanybody have an idea how to repair/re-install the system-config device.. not able to change the region now...?21:45
maduserthanks21:45
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: copy over your kde4 globals21:45
nosrednaekimmalik_: go into system settings->monitor and enter admin mode21:46
frybyeas far as I know there is a config script or similar someplace with loads of settings in it - what is it called please and where do I find it..21:46
tempestmefisto_ I've only used kubuntu for about a month and the biggest problem i've had is with my nvidia card... at least the legacy drivers work better for it.  I can't get any resolutions in the system settings only place ive ever been able to change them is in the nvidia settings thing.21:46
frybyebtw despite me being in germany with a german regional setup I am a british disab. air force veteran...21:47
malik_yes i did21:47
frybyeonce in a while folks on engl. language sites not to keen to help a "German..."21:47
nosrednaekimmalik_: does the slider bar go any more to the right?21:47
jhutchins_wkmaduser: The scripts that start system components and services are in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ (usually symlinked to /etc/init.d).  They are started by symlinks from /etc/rc.d/rc#.d, where # is the runlevel.21:47
malik_yes it does21:48
jhutchins_wkmaduser: You can run other things at boot from rc.local or you can set it up in the init system.21:48
malik_upto 2048x153621:48
maduserI just need kwin to run so could I just type kwin into rc.local?21:48
malik_should i change and then restart x ?21:49
malik_or some further changes to be made ?21:49
nosrednaekimmalik_: yeah... change it to the max res that your monitor supports and hit apply21:50
nosrednaekimyou shouldn't have to reboot21:50
malik_ok21:50
frybyeis there a way to set the region using a command in the terminal???21:50
frybyesome kind soul gonna pick up on this problem???21:51
malik_it says you need to restart x21:51
malik_ /etc/init.d/restart kdm ??21:52
frybyenosrednaekim: do you have a tip how to change the region setting when the gui dosent let me do it...?21:52
nosrednaekimmalik_: log out and restart it there21:53
nosrednaekimfrybye: nope... I don't21:53
mefisto_frybye: what's wrong with the gui? you mean system settings?21:53
frybyeok nosrednaekim thanx anyhows...21:53
MetaMorfoziSHey guys!21:53
MetaMorfoziSIS there any webadmin of kubuntu.org?21:53
MetaMorfoziShttp://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest21:53
frybyeyes the system settings are s t u c k on us-english21:53
MetaMorfoziSThe site bugs here21:53
nosrednaekimMetaMorfoziS: Riddel and ryanakca I think21:54
frybyeno other regions even though when I look for language packages the de-de seems to be installed for Germany...21:54
mefisto_frybye: so nothing else in the list, just US English?21:54
frybyemefisto_: right...21:54
frybyeonly us-english and it says "command not found" when trying to install other languages..21:55
frybyeor other regions if one wants to be exact...21:55
frybyethere is code missing - but what...?21:55
frybyeit looks a bit as if the system config device itself is only partly available - or broken...?21:56
nosrednaekimfrybye: run system settings from a konsole and see the exact output21:57
frybyenosrednaekim: how do I do that...?21:57
frybyesorry - but you know i think that I am very new...21:57
nosrednaekimopen a konsole and type "systemsettings"21:57
mefisto_frybye: what do you get when you type "locale" in terminal? us-english?21:58
frybyeit started the gui with the system settings just like when I go for it via the menus.. eh hang on pse..21:59
frybyeno in the terminal it says de_DE for locale...21:59
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frybyebut the keyboard and all the stuff is us-english - like the setting in the gui for the region...22:00
melkarti just installed oidentd (i just need any identd, should i have installed an easier one?), but still irc servers complain that they dont get an ident response... must i configure it?22:00
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frybyemefisto_: to be exact it is de_DE.UTF-822:01
frybyeif the keyboard knew about that would be a lot easier.. ;)22:01
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jhutchins_wkmelkart: Are you behind a firewall?22:02
frybyeI am on the other pc right now - so I dont have the yzyzyz problems here for instance..22:02
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frybyemefisto_: so what do you think???22:02
melkartjhutchins_wk: not that i know of... i am just a dumb kubuntu 7.10 user...22:02
d_mitryi am wondering how to listen to wav files in kubuntu 6.06. could someone help me?22:03
nosrednaekimd_mitry: amarok will do it22:03
mefisto_frybye: so it's just the keyboard set to us english, everything else is as it was before and the way you want it?22:03
frybyed_mitry: just out of interest - why are u using 6.06??22:03
frybyeand not 8.04 for instance...?22:04
d_mitry256 mb of ram, fryby. :P22:04
d_mitry7.10 requires more.22:04
d_mitryat least ubuntu. i only had ubuntu 8.04, 7.10 and kubuntu 6.06 CDs.22:04
frybyei c - soon you can pic it up with the thrown away cans and bottles in the street - so cheap...22:04
d_mitrynosrednaekim: amarok opens it and then says playlist finished. no error returned.22:04
frybyeor the whole pc is a wee bit out of date and you cant get the right ram - or???22:05
d_mitryit's a laptop. old laptop at that.22:05
d_mitryi've never taken a laptop apart before. i guess there's a first time for everything, but that's not priority yet.22:05
nosrednaekimdon't think thats the problem :P22:06
d_mitrynosrednaekim: then what could be the problem? i installed 6.06 and this is the first time i'm connecting it to the internet. i expect that it doesn't have support for restricted formats.22:08
ahmedhello all22:08
ahmedany arabic kubuntu user in her22:08
nosrednaekimdmbkiwi: yeah... but wav isn't restricted22:08
d_mitryi thought that it is.22:08
nosrednaekimdmbkiwi: you should use xubuntu 8.0422:09
d_mitrywell, let's suppose that it isn't. do you know why amarok could be behaving like this?22:09
d_mitryone day.22:09
d_mitryi sense auto-completion problems. ;)22:09
nosrednaekimactually, the newer kubuntu's use the same amount of ram, you just have to run the alternate installer22:10
d_mitrywell, i'd rather fix this problem now. i'll upgrade eventually.22:10
mefisto_I run kubuntu on an old laptop with 192 mb ram22:11
nosrednaekimok... but problems are far easier to fix in 8.0422:11
nosrednaekimspecially since we are all familiar with it22:11
d_mitryheh, ok. what would happen if i tried upgrading now? would i be told that my system requirements don't meet the latest version's?22:12
d_mitrymefisto_: which version?22:12
mefisto_d_mitry: 8.0422:13
nosrednaekimno.... I guess you could upgrade directly too22:13
d_mitryi'll attempt upgrading now. we'll see what happens.22:13
d_mitrybut firstly, nosrednaekim, would you advise that i upgrade?22:14
shane2peruhow do I install java plugins on 64bit?  I thought I had it but some sites don't work22:14
mefisto_d_mitry: I don't think it's any slower than 7.10 or 7.04 before that. bootup time is faster22:14
nosrednaekimdmbkiwi: no.... I prefer fresh installs especially for huge jumps like that22:14
nosrednaekimbut definately get something newer22:14
d_mitrywell, would i get any unexpected surprises?22:14
mefisto_who is dmbkiwi? is dmbkiwi d_mitry ?22:15
d_mitryunsuccessful auto-completion, mefisto_ :P22:15
nosrednaekimd_mitry: don't think so22:15
frybyemefisto_: well the keyboard is wrong and I assume the fact that only us-english is shown in system config region settings indicates that other stuff will be wrong??22:16
d_mitrywell, i'll do it. on a side-note, i doubt a surprise can be expected.22:16
nosrednaekimhaha... true :)22:16
d_mitrybtw, why wouldn't you advise upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04, nosrednaekim?22:16
frybyesomeone in kub-de is talking about needing a langpack but dosent know the name in kde?? any clue...?22:17
nosrednaekimd_mitry: fixed bugs, fixed multimedia issues, newer versions of software, more support22:17
frybyed_mitry: he hasnt got enough ram himself - jus that I think...22:17
d_mitryok. let me look around adept.22:18
d_mitrynosrednaekim: now i have another question. why is it that `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' says 0 upgraded, etc? :P22:23
nosrednaekimdmbkiwi: because you have to update your repositories22:23
nosrednaekim!upgrade22:24
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes22:24
d_mitrythanks. :)22:24
d_mitrynosrednaekim: is it not possible to go from 6.06 to 8.04 in one go if downloading the upgrade?22:25
nosrednaekimyes... it is possible22:25
nosrednaekimbut probably quite buggy22:25
nosrednaekimnot many people do that22:25
d_mitryi'll take the long route then.22:26
Roby__has anyone tried kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix?22:28
jessejazzanot yet22:28
nosrednaekimyes22:28
nosrednaekimd_mitry: don't upgrade step by step...22:29
nosrednaekimdo a fresh install22:29
Roby__it's very buggy22:29
TazaUh22:29
TazaI can't download the latest Kubuntu...22:29
d_mitrynosrednaekim: is the kubuntu 8.04 cd shipped for free?22:30
nosrednaekimyes22:30
jessejazzayes22:30
TazaAlso, it gives a "REPORT AS A BUG APIC BROKEN"22:31
d_mitryoh, my. i should've known. *searches*22:31
TazaHelp plz?22:31
TazaCan someone point me towards Kubuntu latest AMD64 link?22:31
TazaSeeing, uh, that the site is broken right now.22:31
mefisto_Taza: how about finding a torrent?22:32
Tazamefisto_: Preferably an official source22:32
Taza"Choose a location near you: MYSQL FAILURE"22:32
Tazahttp://www.kubuntu.org/download.php <--- BROKEN. Can anyone here fix it?22:32
TazaI need i386 alternative22:33
TazaApic is broken, no download links, I can't install no matter what I do22:33
nosrednaekimTaza: you can turn off apic22:34
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Tazanosrednaekim: Doesn't work22:34
TazaLiveCD doesn't boot into X when I do22:34
nosrednaekimah22:34
Taza(I f6'd it and added "noapic" as livecd option)22:34
nosrednaekimif you are doing wine... use the 32 bit version as well22:34
nosrednaekim64 bit is added headache22:34
TazaI think it's the M2N4 doing it22:35
nosrednaekimtry downloading from the ubuntu site22:35
TazaI gotta update my *bios* for Kubuntu to work?22:35
TazaJesus Christ on a pogo stick.22:35
mefisto_Taza: where are you downloading from?22:36
nosrednaekim!language22:36
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.22:36
Tazamefisto_: NOTHING works.22:36
Tazamefisto_: Try to download the file from the site22:36
Tazanosrednaekim: What's so offensive about a religious figure on a pogo stick?22:36
d_mitrymefisto_, frybye, and nosrednaekim, thanks for your help today. i'll order the kubuntu 8.04 cd and upgrade. bye!22:36
mefisto_Taza: where are you?22:37
Tazamefisto_: The site at kubuntu.org has a MySQL problem.22:37
nosrednaekimTaza: its offensive to Christians... like me22:37
TazaWould you think Jesus wouldn't like a pogo stick?22:37
mefisto_but almost anything is offensive22:37
TazaI was going to say "Jesus [censored] Christ [censored] on a [censored] while [censored] [censored] [censored]"22:38
TazaBut then I remembered it's a family-friendly channel22:38
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nosrednaekim!attitude22:38
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines22:38
nosrednaekimI hate it when its the wrong factoid22:38
nosrednaekim!coc22:39
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/22:39
TazaSo just tuning down my language isn't enough, I should avoid offending everyone who could ever possibly get offended?22:39
TazaSorry, but I side with mefisto_ here.22:39
TazaI mean, you're offending MY religion now.22:39
mefisto_my lack of religion is offended22:40
mefisto_but seriously, where are you Taza?22:40
nosrednaekimha22:40
Tazamefisto_: Finland. Funet is my preferred mirror.22:40
MetaMorfoziSDoes anybody tried kubuntu on an usb stick?22:40
nosrednaekim!usb22:41
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent22:41
mefisto_Taza: http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/22:41
MetaMorfoziSyes22:41
MetaMorfoziSbut22:41
MetaMorfoziSWhat is my problem is that i want to get auto hw detection22:41
Tazamefisto_: You could just have asked me "what mirror do you want". :P22:41
MetaMorfoziSbecause if i install it on my pendrive, that's not the same as a livecd that loads it's modules at every boot22:41
MetaMorfoziSor iam wrong?22:41
mefisto_MetaMorfoziS: I think you are wrong22:42
TazaMetaMorfoziS: There is a way to get that pendrive.22:42
TazaMetaMorfoziS: Most "Ubuntu on Eee" guides link to that.22:42
TazaIt requires either a windows box or intense familiarity with some commands though22:42
TazaYes, it's easier on windows22:43
C0D3N9N3what have i missed22:43
nosrednaekimthe open sourcing of Windows22:43
TazaWine 9.7 Windows Vista.22:44
Tazamefisto_: Installing Ubuntu to an USB drive doesn't use the same autodetection22:45
TazaI *HATE* AJAX when it's unnecessary22:47
shane2perudoes anyone know how to get "sudo modprobe visor"  to load, or run on startup every time?22:53
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: add visor to the /etc/mudoles file22:53
Odd-rationale /etc/modules22:53
shane2peruOdd-rationale: just put visor ?22:53
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: yes.22:54
shane2peruOdd-rationale: ooh, that is a file, right I knew there was an easy way, thanks22:54
C0D3N9N3tell me ACID BURN doesnt look just hot at the end of the movie22:54
C0D3N9N3thinks she plays Halo22:54
shane2peruthanks Odd-rationale22:55
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: np22:55
C0D3N9N3the bright blue nail polish .. MMMM22:55
Odd-rationaleC0D3N9N3: don't you think you're a tad bit offtopic?22:55
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C0D3N9N3well .. i came in late and wasnt really in the topic to start22:56
theFATMANhello everyone. i am running ubuntu 8.04, but i want to switch to kubuntu. how can i do this without a fresh install?22:56
C0D3N9N3besides... isnt it my deal to see if we could start a new topic?22:56
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop22:56
C0D3N9N3mmmm sudo22:56
theFATMANOdd-rationale, will that also install, kde, kdm?22:57
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN: then you can choose kde in your login sessions menu.22:57
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN: not kdm, i don't think... but you can install that yourself if you want and change gdm to kdm...22:57
theFATMANOdd-rationale, will kubuntu run on gdm?22:58
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN: of course22:58
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN: just choose kde in the gdm sessions menu22:58
theFATMANOdd-rationale, will that replace ubuntu?22:58
C0D3N9N3so ODD-Rationale are you a level 12 paladin22:58
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN: no, you can choose gnome from the gdm sessions menu and login back to gnome...22:59
Odd-rationaleC0D3N9N3: what's that:?22:59
mefisto_theFATMAN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm) will let you choose whether you want gdm or kdm22:59
C0D3N9N3some one of extreme power22:59
Odd-rationaleC0D3N9N3: hmm, i haven't found that out yet...23:00
theFATMANOdd-rationale, thank you, does it matter that i have an AMD 64bit system?23:00
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN: no, i don't think so23:00
theFATMANmefisto_, thank you as well23:00
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN: also, if you would like to complete remove gnome, i can give you a link on that...23:00
theFATMANOdd-rationale, please, cuz i keep having display issues23:01
mefisto_Odd-rationale: can I have that link?23:01
C0D3N9N3so is this just QA or is there an actually exchange of ideaS? cause i am not sure i want to help everyone get up to speed23:01
Odd-rationaleone moment...23:01
theFATMANOdd-rationale, no p23:01
Odd-rationaletheFATMAN, mefisto_: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde23:02
theFATMANOdd-rationale, mucho gracias23:02
theFATMANpeace23:02
C0D3N9N323:03
C0D3N9N3謝謝您23:03
C0D3N9N3I think IRC should be a mix of QA. recommendations, and the latest news in new software... anyone else feel the same way?23:05
Odd-rationaleC0D3N9N3: you may be able to find a channel for something like that.23:05
TazaLinux ready for desktop my [censored] [censored]23:05
Taza"HEY, KERNEL PANIC."23:05
C0D3N9N3taza? you dont think linux is ready for the desktop world? or the main OS?23:06
Taza"NOT ENOUGH? HAVE ANOTHER."23:06
TazaC0D3N9N3: I'm very close to just going "[censored] it", installing Windows and just warezing the necessary software to make it work the way I want23:06
TazaIt'd be a five-minute-job with a shell script for Linux IF I COULD GET THE [censored] THING TO BOOT.23:07
Taza(also, I wub my [censored]-script23:07
C0D3N9N3taza? would you care to explain.. cause i am losing you?23:08
TazaC0D3N9N3: M2N4. The installer goes "KERNEL PANIC" every time I try to boot23:08
TazaAsus M2N4, "try with noapic", KERNEL PANIC.23:08
Odd-rationaleTaza: did you check the cd for errors?23:09
TazaYes.23:09
TazaEvery NORMAL problem is out of the way.23:09
TazaThere is no pebkac at work here.23:09
TazaThis is a problem in Ubuntu.23:09
TazaOr possibly the motherboard23:09
C0D3N9N3mmmm... hope it isnt a remote machine HEHEHEHE23:09
Odd-rationaleTaza: have you tried booting the cd on another machine? maybe it is a hardware issue...23:10
C0D3N9N3well, i would look at your logs, find out when it started happening and then remove software around that time23:10
TazaOdd-rationale: Are you a bot?23:10
C0D3N9N3no, i am sure you installed some bad stuff23:10
TazaOdd-rationale: Asus M2N4 + noapic23:10
TazaC0D3N9N3: Fresh empty machine23:10
TazaThe LiveCD throws a KERNEL PANIC23:11
Odd-rationaleTaza: i'm becmoing one...23:11
TazaOdd-rationale: I can see, but this isn't a pebkac. Or a normal issue.23:11
TazaThis is an ubuntu bug.23:11
TazaApparently around since 7.0423:11
TazaAlso, booting with noapic results in no x23:11
TazaWhat is this, 1998?23:12
TazaExample: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67209623:12
TazaExample: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=2ca9c8cc280af9e91e22363f74d93c35&t=33422023:12
MetaMorfoziSSo anybody here tried kubuntu on a pendrive?23:13
MetaMorfoziSif i did what !usb said above23:13
MetaMorfoziSthen the auto hw detection remains?23:13
Taza!usb23:14
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent23:14
MetaMorfoziSBecause i think if i just install the livecd to the usbstick, then it will configured for that hw where i installed that23:14
MetaMorfoziSTaza > read again, what i said.23:14
MetaMorfoziSOr just roll back the channel's log with 5 minute23:14
TazaMetaMorfoziS: I checked it to see if it was the guide I used23:14
TazaYes, the FromUSBStick manual approach is what I did and it worked23:14
TazaOkay23:15
TazaX is still booting23:15
TazaAFTER 400 seconds on a 5ghz equilevant with 2gb of 800mhz memory!23:15
MetaMorfoziS:D23:15
MetaMorfoziSI think you need to tweak that crappy config a bit, to get it faster;]23:16
TazaIt's the livecd23:16
TazaSomething is DEEPLY wrong.23:16
MetaMorfoziSwoosh23:16
TazaI updated to latest stable BIOS too23:16
MetaMorfoziSyou messing with usbthing?23:16
TazaNo23:16
TazaI'm trying to install Kubuntu23:17
TazaIt. Just. Isn't. Working.23:17
C0D3N9N3so.. let me get this str8? youre having issues with a live cd?23:17
TazaMP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC.23:17
TazaKernel Panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn´t work!.23:17
TazaC0D3N9N3: Yes.-23:17
MetaMorfoziSTaza > have you tried the alternate install?23:17
MetaMorfoziSThat's the same, just not qt...23:17
TazaMetaMorfoziS: Well, lemme see all the problems with that.23:17
C0D3N9N3as in when you runt he OS or trying to do the install?23:17
TazaC0D3N9N3: As in, install kubuntu on the live cd is giving me a KERNEL PANIC23:18
TazaI have to constantly edit out swearing.23:18
C0D3N9N3install on your HARD DRIVE?23:18
C0D3N9N3cause if youre gettting issues with the install, first try a new disk. if that doesnt work, check your system for hard ware issues23:19
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TazaC0D3N9N3: Use GOOGLE?23:22
TazaOr perhaps FORUM SEARCH?23:22
C0D3N9N3i would use the forums,23:23
C0D3N9N3have you tried a new CD?23:23
TazaThey have this same problem all over23:23
TazaNo resolution23:23
TazaC0D3N9N3: Please don't make me swear.23:23
C0D3N9N3f[-}ck23:23
TazaIT IS NOT A PEBCAK AND THE HARDWARE ITSELF WORKS FINE.23:23
TazaI can query that to you in several colours every minute for the next hour if that doesn't work.23:24
C0D3N9N3well. TAZA panics are either software or hardware.23:25
TazaIt was the quiet option23:25
TazaHow that can do that is beyond me23:25
C0D3N9N3if your FRICKING cd is the issue burn a new CD. if if your hardware list out the hardware and check the forums23:26
TazaYou, my friend, are terminally stupid.23:26
TazaYou are stupid, obstinate and inconsiderate beyond any belief.23:26
C0D3N9N3well, i am sure i will take that.23:26
C0D3N9N3;)23:27
TazaAnd believe me, it took considerable effort not to just randomly sling insults.23:27
Odd-rationaleplease don't be name calling. thanks!23:27
C0D3N9N3yeah. i am sure.23:27
TazaI'm not name calling, just stating a fact.23:27
C0D3N9N3.. interesting.23:27
TazaIt was a mobo compatibility issue with the timer.23:27
TazaWhich eventually some helpful soul posted the solution to on a page 2 of a 7.04 thread.23:27
C0D3N9N3if what was said doesnt help.. YOU know just ignore and move on.23:28
deadsoulshow can i force adept not to upgrade a certain package?23:28
C0D3N9N3Taza..IGNORED and has moved on23:28
TazaPray the lord that he giveth me the ability to punch people in the face over standard TCP/IP.23:29
C0D3N9N3i dont pray23:29
C0D3N9N3so you go ahead with yours23:29
deadsoulshow can i force adept not to upgrade wine?23:29
TazaC0D3N9N3: It was a standard coder IRC prayer.23:29
Tazadeadsouls: IIRC there was an +ignore aptitude flag23:29
TazaIt's called "apt pinning", that might help in a google search23:30
C0D3N9N3..Taza, figure it out. I really dont care for your soul or pray or what ever you say LMAO.. youre a joke in my mind23:30
deadsoulsTaza, thanks23:30
C0D3N9N3peopke who insult in an IRC really have no clue23:30
TazaC0D3N9N3: I'd explain you the technical specifications beyond this issue, but I don't think you speak linux.23:31
TazaI also HATE black magic so could someone try to make some sense of this?23:31
TazaC0D3N9N3: Harass me with ctcp's and I'll just take it up with the network staff.23:32
TazaM2N4 + Ubuntu means that it spouts a kernel panic with something about apic if quiet is enabled - or quiet and noapic work too.23:32
TazaIf this works, however, kubuntu takes forevarrr to boot livecd desktop23:33
TazaAs in, ten times longer than it does on my cheap MSI mobo with a system with a third of the CPU and RAM23:33
TazaThis problem is making it impossible to use. :/23:35
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Flare183What is the default font for kubuntu?23:38
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Flare183What is the default font for kubuntu?23:43
Flare183please someone answer23:43
Flare183me23:43
Odd-rationaleFlare183: idk...23:43
Flare183....23:43
Odd-rationaleis that a good enough answer... ;)23:43
Odd-rationaleFlare183: well, i'm using arch+kdemod and i use Bitstream Vera Sans 923:44
Flare183ok i'll try that23:44
deadsoulshow can i specify which version of wine for apt-get to install?23:44
Flare183for which one the Gereral or what?23:44
Odd-rationaleFlare183: yes, general23:45
Flare183but what about the others?23:45
falehi23:45
Flare183!hi23:45
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:45
faleFlare183: :D23:46
Flare183I'm serious23:46
faleFlare183: I belive you23:47
Odd-rationaleFlare183: same. except for the fixed width which uses bitstream vera sans mono 923:47
Flare183ok thanks Odd-rationale23:47
faleFlare183: but was funny, imho, call a bot to say hi ;)23:47
Flare183yeah23:48
Odd-rationale!funny | fale23:49
ubottufale: You might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question.23:49
Odd-rationale;)23:49
faleOdd-rationale: :D23:50

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