=== no0tic is now known as maru0tic === maru0tic is now known as no0uscia === no0uscia is now known as no0tic === asac_ is now known as asac [02:23] Heya gang === asac_ is now known as asac === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve [03:15] can anyone re-sync the keys? I'd like to put something on REVU [03:15] sure, have you just joined the team? [03:15] i joined a few hours ago, yeah, [03:15] ok, will resync now [03:23] ok. uploaded. /me sits and waits for the thrashing. === asac_ is now known as asac [03:33] Zelut: fwiw, it's done [03:34] ajmitch: figured as much. I uploaded a few minutes ago.. waiting on an email re: acceptance. [03:34] you won't get one [03:34] unless that's been changed lately :) [03:35] I guess I'm used to getting an email from PPA uploads. assumed REVU'd do the same. [03:36] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=origami ? [03:36] yeah [03:38] * ajmitch must go into a meeting, brb [03:55] Hello! Could anyone please look at bug 235696 ? [03:55] Launchpad bug 235696 in patchage "[upgrade] upgrade to 0.4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/235696 [04:53] wgrant: you happen to be up? [04:55] quick! it's a LaserJock! [04:56] heh [04:56] * RAOF mobs LaserJock. [04:56] LaserJock: I got back from uni about 2 minutes ago. Nice timing. [04:57] wgrant: careful, you've picked up a stalker [04:57] mwuahahaha >:-) [04:58] LaserJock: You are addicted aren't you. [04:58] He can stop anytime he wants... [04:59] surrrre [05:06] LaserJock: come on man, take your little vacation already :P [05:09] nixternal: I'm *trying* [05:12] doesn't look like you are trying [05:18] nixternal: "leaving gracefully" [05:18] hehe [05:18] ya right, trying to leave is more like it [05:18] you are addicted dude, face the facts already [05:29] lol [05:29] we are all additcs :P [05:31] RoAkSoAx: but you're not trying to escape the asylum like LaserJock [05:32] hahahaha LoooooL!!! [05:32] is he that old? [05:32] old? no, not really [05:33] so? [05:33] asylum = place for insane people [05:33] ajmitch: ? I'm ancient! [05:33] LaserJock: You are a young pup. [05:34] Speaking of which, this old fart needs to get to bed. [05:34] Good night. [05:34] ajmitch: yeah but it is also a shelter so won't exactly be for insane ppl [05:34] LaserJock: compared to our 'senior' members, not so old :) === santiago-ve is now known as Guest76772 === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve [05:34] or at least that's what the dictionary says :P [05:35] 2: a hospital for mentally incompetent or unbalanced person [05:35] not the first meaning listed, but one that's common enough these days [05:35] * bddebian heard that! [05:36] and it describes MOTU quite well [05:36] doesn't it, bddebian ? [05:36] Yep :) [05:36] i have: # A place offering protection and safety; a shelter. [05:36] # A place, such as a church, formerly constituting an inviolable refuge for criminals or debtors. [05:37] Yeah; the two meanings are intertwined. [05:37] if we need to debate the meaning of the phrase, then perhaps we are mad :) [05:37] o/` The lunatics are on the grass o/` [05:37] The inmates are running the asylum! [05:39] you're all old. [05:39] says you [05:39] heh [05:39] yes. [05:39] kids these days, no respect [05:39] i'm not... i'm about tu turn 23 :P [05:39] * Hobbsee pinches ajmitch's walking stick [05:40] RoAkSoAx: 23 is ancient. [05:40] hey now, I was about to use that to smack some sense into you [05:40] i know. [05:40] wgrant: yeah i know :( lol hahah nah!! i'm still young to party all the time!! as in Miami After Hours!!! [05:41] * ajmitch is glad it's a long weekend [05:41] beer o'clock is here [05:41] bah, C++ is driving me nuts! I really need to go to the asylum [05:42] the last time i've touched C++ was 3 years ago xD [05:59] evening [06:12] good morning [06:13] g'morning dholbach [06:13] hi RoAkSoAx [06:15] well i'm going to sleep, g'night all ;) [06:22] i'm looking for a mentor for packaging [06:25] dholbach: mornin' [06:26] heya nixternal [06:27] kde4 packages are wearing me out [06:27] I have like 10 done with about 108403804328432080 more to go [06:27] nixternal: 4.1? [06:27] ya [06:28] nixternal: czessi told me last night he was working with apachelogger on them? [06:28] beta 1 packages [06:28] they better not [06:28] something about "stuff building, but not in pbuilder" *shrug* [06:28] noobs [06:28] builds in pbuilder just fine [06:28] team communication FTW! :-) [06:28] that's what they get for not adding automoc to their deps :) [06:28] nah, I think they know I was doing the packages for hardy and putting them in a ppa [06:29] alright - just wanted to let you know since I heard him talking about it last night [06:30] ya, just asked apachelogger about them in #kubuntu-devel [06:30] there is no way apachelogger is doing anything right now besides partying and doing LinuxTag and whatever else is going on [06:31] :) [06:34] good morning [06:35] hi geser [06:37] Ahmuck: just ask your questions here [07:55] can anybody help me with debian installer in ubuntu? [07:57] can anybody explain how the debian-installer works in ubuntu? [07:58] SATA: try #ubuntu-installer - and I guess it'd help if your question was more specific than that :) [07:58] dholbach, thanx === pgquiles__ is now known as pgquiles [08:41] Hi again! When packaging shared libraries, is it required to include debian/shlibs or DEB_SHLIBDEP_* in rules? Or does the default dh_shlibdeps behaviour suffice for simple packages? [09:04] artfwo: the default dh_shlibdeps behavior is insufficient, it's impossible for any default to be correct for all libraries (and the actual default ists only correct for libraries that never undergo ABI changes) [09:06] slangasek: ok, thanks! [09:10] morning morning [09:11] What time is there? === thekorn__ is now known as thekorn [09:53] hi folks [10:06] what is the point of implementing get-orig-source target, if uscan can (and does by default) download new upstream versions? [10:10] artfwo: it's there, if the orig-tarball needs to be mangled (e.g. remove non-free bits, or upstream only provides a .tar.bz2) [10:11] sistpoty|work: but if everything is okay with the orig tarball, no need for this target, right? [10:11] artfwo: yes, then you don't need it [10:11] ok, thanks for clarifying this! [10:13] np === iceman is now known as iceman-away === ogra_ is now known as ogra [11:37] anyone, please feel free to add/remove/comment bug 214727 [11:37] Launchpad bug 214727 in tovid "mplayer should be in universe" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214727 [11:55] morning [11:56] emgent: its 13:00 where you are, this hardly qualifies for a morning ;-) [11:58] jdong: hi, will you upload the fix in bug 221973 to Intrepid? [11:58] hey emgent [11:58] norsetto: hehehe i know :) [11:58] Launchpad bug 221973 in smstools "smstools folder under /var/run isn't recreated after reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221973 [11:59] heya pochu :) [12:00] omg, alias work today! [12:01] laga: thx for checking [12:03] laga: I guess mythbuntu-meta should be invalid too then [12:26] norsetto: yeah.. do you want to set it to invalid? [12:26] laga: done it already :-) [12:26] yay [12:29] How come is so quiet in here? Where is sebner? [12:30] sebner: thx for taking care of ocaml-ladspa [12:30] that noisy youngster [12:30] norsetto: first complaining then thanking :P [12:30] mok0: I heard "gangster" :-)? [12:31] hehe [12:31] norsetto: you should say: Thanks for taking care of ocaml-* :P [12:31] any news about the sru team, after laserjock's exit? [12:32] sebner: ahhh, there are more .... [12:32] sebner: did you do gmetadom by any chance? [12:33] mok0: DktrKranz seem to have solved his ISP troubles and is back full steam [12:33] norsetto: never touched that, why? [12:33] mp [12:33] norsetto: ah good. They have quite a long queue over there [12:33] oops [12:34] sebner: ok, that is a needed ocaml merge/sync too which is part of the transition [12:35] norsetto: do you know if there's an Ubuntu policy on python-numpy? [12:35] sebner: its in main, thought you may like to do something for main too [12:35] norsetto: I'm afraid of main ^^ [12:36] mok0: no idea, all I know is that its in the DPMT [12:36] sebner: yes, be afraid, be very afraid... [12:36] norsetto: ok [12:36] mok0: hrhr, why? [12:37] norsetto: Looks like a sync. I'll check and file a bug later, ok? [12:37] sebner: sure [12:37] fine [12:38] I have a merge where the depends: python-numpy is replaced (in Ubuntu) by: python-numpy | python-numeric-ext | python-numarray-ext. I don't think that is right [12:38] mok0: perhaps scottk knows more, doko should certainly know [12:39] ScottK? Hello? [12:39] doko? [12:40] sebner, what happened to your icon? [12:40] http://wiki.debian.org/python-numpy - search for "deprecated" [12:41] mok0: will be uploaded at afternoon ;) And it's not *my* icon. I'm just the uploader ^^ [12:41] related link: http://wiki.debian.org/python-scipy [12:41] POX__: yes exactly, that's why I wondered [12:41] mok0, norsetto: IMO it should be dropped [12:41] doko: thanks! Me too [12:42] hi POX__, any news about pyelemental? [12:43] didn't I upload it already? [12:43] POX__: hmmm, I didn't see anything, shouldn't be tagged before? [12:45] POX__: thanks for all your comments and the work youd did btw, appreciated it === tb1 is now known as tbf [12:46] norsetto: subscribed ubuntu main sponsors. what a feeling ^^ [12:46] sebner: now be VERY afraid :-) [12:47] norsetto: now a geek core-dev will come with a hammer and pull it down on my head ^^ [12:47] mok0: what's the size for the icons? [12:48] norsetto: your last change in SVN is 19h old, did you ask me to upload it? Sorry, I have so many RFS request that I don't really remember what I uploaded and what not, I can check what I complained about when I'll be back home (I'm at work right now) [12:50] POX__: no problem, I understand, as I said I appreciate what your are doing! Just let me know if I should so something on my side and I will [12:50] norsetto: if don't get ACCEPTED mail or a reply with a list of things to fix from me within 24h, mail me again [12:50] POX__: will do [12:53] sebner: as far as I can see, they are displayed at 14x14, but most are actuall 16x16 [12:54] hey norsetto, how's it going? [12:54] heya highvoltage! going well, and you? [12:55] mok0: Did you get your question answered? [12:55] norsetto: doing well, just came out of being locked into a cold server room for 2 hours! [12:56] highvoltage: can we change places? We are already above 30 C here .... [12:56] mok0: hmm, the designer refuses to send/allow me to upload 16x16 ones. he thought the have to be bigger [12:57] sebner: It is quite difficult to make something that small, in fact [12:57] sebner: upload them in the size you have [12:58] sebner: they might be usable for desktop icons, document types or something [12:58] norsetto: unfortunately, there is a bug in linux-image-generic-2.6.24.16.18 that breaks my teleporation modules :0/ [12:58] StevenK: is there a particular reason why bluez-hcip b-d on bluez-libs >= 3.20 ? [12:59] StevenK: I meant bluez-hcidump [12:59] highvoltage: argh, always blame it on the kernel :-)! [12:59] Probably so I could upload both of them at the same time [13:01] mok0: too big I suppose but I will take care of that [13:01] oh well, its about time I eat something [13:01] hf norsetto [13:02] sebner: hf == have fun || hf == have food ? [13:02] norsetto: first one but take the one you like more ^^ [13:03] * norsetto takes hf&f [13:05] ^^ === pgquiles__ is now known as pgquiles [13:18] StevenK: ok, so this can be happily dropped and the package synced, I presume [13:22] Lutin: Works for me [13:23] StevenK: okay [13:25] norsetto: dvdrip also depends on tanscode which is in multiverse, so I believe it should stay in multiverse [13:35] norsetto: also odmrip and devede depend on mencoder which is in multiverse. [13:43] Good Morning [13:49] hm... seems like I didn't miss the motu-meeting *g* [13:50] (as I've just been afk for half an hour) [13:50] sistpoty|work: today was motu meeting? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhh xD [13:50] sebner: erm, should have been, I guess [13:50] (or should still take place) [13:51] sistpoty|work: started 45 mins ago. Let's check === fta_ is now known as fta [13:53] MOTU meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now (starting late) so please join #ubuntu-meeting [13:55] sebner: so.. mail alias work now [13:56] emgent: /here too. \o/ [13:57] is there a way to get the configure line of a package ? [13:57] I am interested to know the current configure options... [13:58] look at debian/rules in the package [14:02] slytherin: mencoder is a binary of mplayer, so its fine [14:03] norsetto: Ok. Then just dvdrip task is invalid unless transcode is also going to be moved to universe [14:03] slytherin: yes, I'm checking that right now === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx [14:13] slytherin: yes, dvdrip should remain in multiverse, can you please mark it invalid in bug 214727? Thanks! [14:13] Launchpad bug 214727 in tovid "mplayer should be in universe" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214727 [14:16] norsetto: norsetto !!! [14:16] :) [14:17] huats !!!! [14:17] sebner: I'll try to process your open sync/merges today [14:17] geser: kk. no stress [14:18] Heya gang [14:22] norsetto: I believe we need to have mplayer and vlc in multiverse due to patents. [14:22] Debian disables all encoding, so can get away with them in main. [14:22] But we don't want to do that. [14:22] wgrant: ah! [14:22] bddebian: Boo! [14:23] :-) Heya geser [14:23] wgrant: ok, if thats true than the whole issue is closed [14:23] wgrant: this means we have to keep a constant delta, or to make it an ubuntu package [14:23] norsetto: mplayer-fonts deserves closer inspection - sounds like it wants to be kicked from the archive entirely. [14:24] norsetto: We have an enormous delta, and have had for several releases. [14:24] Our package isn't derived from Debian at all. [14:24] norsetto: is the ocaml transition completed? [14:24] wgrant: you are right, I should have checked it better [14:25] wgrant: ok, I'll close the whole issue then, or you want to do it yourself? [14:26] norsetto: I'm about to head off to bed, so can you please do it? [14:26] geser: almost but not quite [14:26] wgrant: ok, thanks for checking it out, I'm only sorry I wasted people time for nothing [14:27] norsetto: A number of people have made the mistake before - LP really needs a per-source whiteboard. [14:34] Is there an apt-* program to install a .deb? [14:35] mok0: apt-get ? [14:36] mok0: seriously :-) [14:36] norsetto: I build a .deb, and it has a bunch of dependencies [14:37] I want to install my new deb, plus all dependencies [14:37] mok0: for that I use apt-get and sometime (rarely) gdebi [14:37] norsetto: but apt-get won't accept a package [14:37] norsetto: I mean a deb [14:38] mok0: build a repository, and install it via that? [14:38] mok0: you have to have a local repo, I have it anyhow since I build quite a number of packages locally [14:38] Hobbsee: that's what I was hoping to avoid :-) [14:38] mok0: there's ppa, too... [14:38] mok0: well, then use gdebi [14:39] Hobbsee: my problem is this: I've done a merge, and I want to test the package. I don't want to put it in the ppa or a local repo. Really. [14:39] mok0: why, though? [14:39] mok0: I do it all the time, whats the deal? [14:39] mok0: dpkg -i *deb; apt-get -f install works for me quite good [14:39] sistpoty|work: s/good/well/ :) [14:39] sistpoty|work: thanks [14:40] np [14:40] quick & dirty :-) [14:40] Hobbsee: yeah... too hot to write proper English *g* [14:40] hehe [14:40] * Hobbsee throws sistpoty|work into the ocean again [14:40] sistpoty|work: how hot is it there? [14:41] Hobbsee: hm... not too sure, but I'm sweating like mad. maybe ~30°C [14:41] sistpoty|work: wuss. [14:41] sistpoty|work: don't come to au in summer, then [14:41] heh [14:42] the weather applet shows for my location 21°C and 78% humidity [14:42] Hobbsee: don't forget you are talking to an almost viking there [14:42] norsetto: there is that. [14:42] geser: Send it over [14:43] Hobbsee: contrary to mok0 which is fully viking ;-) [14:44] Who me? Viking? [14:44] It's so hot here my horns have melted [14:44] * norsetto wonders if mok0 has an horned helmet hidden somewhere [14:44] It's not horned any longer :-P [14:44] oh well! [14:45] They'll grow out, eventually... [14:46] geser, how about sticking your head out the window? Or is that too un-geeky? [14:48] <_ruben> basements dont always have windows [14:48] hey all, I am having a hard time finding bugs to work on... what do you guys suggest I do. I have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO/Bugs but most bugs that I seem to be able to handle have all been tackled [14:49] effie_jayx: I can gladly pass you some hundreds if you really wish it [14:49] norsetto, bring them my way... I can see how I manage... [14:49] effie_jayx: I suppose you are not looking for merges or syncs? [14:50] norsetto, no really no... I would love to do some merges [14:50] effie_jayx: ok, then head out to mom or dad [14:50] norsetto, let me find some... [14:50] !mom [14:50] Factoid mom not found [14:50] * effie_jayx had forgotten about merges... :D [14:50] hmmmmm [14:50] !merges [14:50] Factoid merges not found [14:50] !merge [14:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging [14:50] ah, finally .... [14:51] mok0: you mean go to the big room with the open nuclear fusion above? [14:53] * norsetto wonders why Ubuntu Maine-iacs is subscribed to all bugs [14:53] Ubuntu Maine-iacs hmmmmm [14:56] norsetto, what if I want to use dad... I remember it allows me to mark the merge I am working on [14:56] norsetto: ... I wonder more about all the other creepy names that are subscribed [14:57] effie_jayx: personally, I use dad and love it [14:57] norsetto, I got to like it in my first merge [14:57] norsetto, care to share a link? [14:57] mok0: like ALVARO VARGAS? Gives me the creeps too :-) [14:57] norsetto: DaD kicks *ss [14:58] !merge | effie_jayx [14:58] effie_jayx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging [14:58] norsetto: ALVARO VIAGRAS you said? :P [14:58] sounds like spam ;) [14:58] norsetto: yeah and osama [14:58] pochu: lol [14:59] I am sure these are spam harvesters [14:59] how about tbill25642tbjbt [14:59] very spammy sound to that on [14:59] one [14:59] yeah, someone did some research in launchpad-users@ [14:59] and they subscribed almost the same day and have never done anything there... [14:59] heh [15:00] They should be cleaned out [15:00] agreed [15:00] and there should be two different categories in also notified [15:00] per project and per package [15:00] In fact, no one should be able to subscribe to all bugs [15:01] It doesn't make sense [15:01] well, for a distribution that makes sense, right [15:01] (what you said, I mean) [15:01] they can join ubuntu-bugs@ [15:01] Is that a mailman operated list? [15:03] mok0: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs [15:03] I have started getting spam on my address after they appeared [15:03] mok0: ubuntu-bugs - Ubuntu bug tracker changes - HIGH VOLUME [15:03] HIGH!! [15:03] YOU'RE WARNED! [15:03] ;) [15:03] Hehe [15:03] mok0: hope you never use an @ubuntu.com address.. [15:03] if you subscribe to that list, your GMail quota will hit it's limit before you can unsubscribe [15:03] Hobbsee: I don't have one [15:04] Hobbsee: why is that? [15:04] mok0: lucky you, then. they attract spam really badly. [15:04] Hobbsee: I have a good filter [15:04] then why do you care about the spam? [15:04] Only about 1% get through [15:04] ah [15:05] Hobbsee: I don't, I've just noticed that my new address has started getting spam after these guys appeared on the bugs list [15:05] mok0: What's your LP account again? [15:05] mok0? [15:05] persia: ^ [15:06] mok0: You surely do have an @ubuntu.com address, although it may be stuck somehow. [15:06] persia: Oh, cool [15:10] sebner: did you managed to test-build the evolution-sharp you want to sync in intrepid? it FTBFS for me. [15:19] anyone have nifty command to remove all "CVS" dirs from source? [15:20] s.th. like find . -name="CVS" -type=d -exec rm -rf '{}' ';' (not tested, use at own risk) [15:20] jpds: extract the tar ball with --exclude [15:21] or find . -name CVS -type d |xargs rm -rf [15:21] mok0: true [15:22] geser: was wondering about ocaml-http, for some devious reasons, the DD made it a debian package, so now if I rebuild it, it bumps the .tar.gz version too ... is that ok? [15:22] mok0: appears to have worked, thanks and you too sistpoty|work :) [15:22] np [15:22] geser: I mean, a debian NATIVE package [15:23] oh, there's a new kernel today [15:24] norsetto: it's normal for native packages, and btw ocaml-http is already rebuild (uploaded 18 min ago) [15:24] testbuild succeded /here [15:24] sebner: well done [15:24] geser: ok [15:24] mok0: hmm? [15:25] sebner: j/k [15:26] mok0: xD why well done? [15:26] geser: if it's an error with perl just update your pbuilder intrepid chroot ^^ [15:26] sebner: your test build succeeded :-) [15:26] geser: btw, don't attempt ocaml-lastfm yet, it needs ocaml-xmlplaylist which I uploaded this morning [15:26] mok0: lol === lmr is now known as lmr[lunch] === leonel_ is now known as leonel [15:46] wgrant, ping [15:48] mok0: he just went to bed [15:48] norsetto: and his brain is not connected to irc I guess... [15:49] mok0: he is dreaming us .. well, nightmaring us rather [15:50] norsetto: yeah that's what happens when a googlebot is scanning you at night [15:51] sebner: evolution-sharp B-D on evolution-dev which isn't currently installable on intrepid AMD64 [15:51] can anyone take a look at my package in REVU? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=origami [15:53] geser: ah. I only have i386 for testing [15:53] sebner: there is builds? [15:53] * geser needs to create a intrepid-i386 pbuilder then [15:55] When a bug has been fixed in an intrepid upload, I put the (LP: ..) stanza in changelog, which will set it to fix-released. But what if the bug is still valid in the older distributions? [15:55] tseliot, where are you at so far on the nvidia stuff? [15:55] mok0: then you'll need to open a task for that (it will only close the task for the distribution found in changelog afaik)( [15:55] mok0: it will close the one corresponding to the distro used in the changelog [15:56] You mean open a task for intrepid, or hardy... etc [15:57] mario_limonciell: I had made a first (draft quality) package but tjaalton wanted to merge my package with the one in Debian therefore I'm waiting to see the result [15:57] tseliot, debian doesn't have dkms yet afaik? [15:58] mario_limonciell: no, therefore the result would be more or less like the debian package + DKMS [15:59] geser: yep [15:59] mario_limonciell: I mean, + my work on DKMS [15:59] tseliot, hmm okay. [15:59] saves you the mucking about with a "beta" driver though, since it's not beta anymore [15:59] sebner: please add a comment then and subscribe u-m-s as evolution-sharp is in main [16:00] * mok0 can't figure out how to open a task on ii [16:00] tseliot, well i might refer you to take a look at the updated packaging I did for fglrx.. [16:00] tseliot, it is a lot more readable and maintainable now [16:00]