[00:09] <asac> jimmy_: using something that tries to hook in gtk window is doomed to not work imo
[00:09] <asac> we should try to implement that differently
[00:10] <asac> but well, maybe the moko approach would really work. would love to see some code.
[02:27] <Sergeant_Pony> I have a really stupid question... my last updates uninstalled FF3. How can I get it back instead of FF 2.0.0.14?
[02:28] <fta> you should not have used dist-upgrade. just add hardy-proposed, then update and reinstall firefox-3.0
[02:30] <Sergeant_Pony> pre-released updates, hardy-proposed. ?
[02:30] <fta> yes
[02:31] <Sergeant_Pony> it is already activated...
[02:31] <fta> please show me your: apt-cache madison firefox-3.0 xulrunner-1.9
[02:32] <Sergeant_Pony> explain?
[02:32] <fta> open a shell, and paste that command
[02:33] <Sergeant_Pony> ok...done
[02:34] <Sergeant_Pony> there is 10 lines of info
[02:34] <fta> you should see
[02:34] <fta> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages
[02:34] <fta> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Sources
[02:35] <fta> ok, and xulrunner-1.9 ?
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Packages
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Sources
[02:36] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Sources
[02:36] <fta> then it should work.
[02:37] <Sergeant_Pony> I tried to install ff3 and I ended up with 2.0.0.14
[02:37] <Sergeant_Pony> I used apt-get
[02:37] <fta> no, 2.0.0.14 is only in firefox-2
[02:37] <fta> apt-get install firefox-3.0
[02:37] <Sergeant_Pony> ok...
[02:38] <Sergeant_Pony> we'll try it again. should I uninstall ff2?
[02:38] <Sergeant_Pony> first
[02:38] <fta> no
[02:38] <Sergeant_Pony> ok
[02:38] <fta> you can if you don't want it but you can keep it, it doesn't hurt
[02:39] <Sergeant_Pony> Reading state information... Done
[02:39] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 is already the newest version.
[02:39] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 set to manually installed.
[02:39] <Sergeant_Pony> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[02:40] <fta> make sure you have killed firefox-2
[02:40] <Sergeant_Pony> if it's installed I wouyld like to know where... the icon gives me ff2
[02:41] <Sergeant_Pony> say's I already have it
[02:41] <fta> you most like still have a process of ff2 running so even if you start ff3, it will just open an ff2 window
[02:41] <Sergeant_Pony> no I killed it
[02:41] <fta> ps auxww | grep firefox
[02:42] <Sergeant_Pony> 1000      7760  0.0  0.0   1772   444 ?        S    18:36   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox-2
[02:42] <Sergeant_Pony> 1000      7772  0.0  0.0   1772   440 ?        S    18:36   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-2-bin
[02:42] <Sergeant_Pony> 1000      7776  2.0  9.1 161668 40936 ?        Sl   18:36   3:51 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-2-bin
[02:42] <fta> kill that
[02:42] <Sergeant_Pony> how?
[02:43] <fta> find the window and close it as usual, or if you can't find it, killall firefox-2
[02:43] <Sergeant_Pony> excuse my ignorance.. never had this happen before
[02:43] <fta> killall firefox-2-bin
[02:44] <Sergeant_Pony> 1000      1194  0.0  0.1   3004   752 pts/1    R+   21:44   0:00 grep firefox
[02:44] <fta> good
[02:44] <fta> now start ff3
[02:46] <Sergeant_Pony> YES!!! thank you :)
[02:47] <fta> basically, you cannot run firefox-2 and firefox(-3.0) at the same time because they share the same profile
[02:48] <fta> if you want to do that, use the profile manager (-P) and create a different profile for firefox-2
[02:48] <Sergeant_Pony> ahh, ok.. when I lost ff3 I started using ff2 until I could get ff3 back.
[02:49] <Sergeant_Pony> do I have to reinstall all my ff3 plugins I had?
[02:49] <fta> i don't think so
[02:49] <fta> they should still be there
[02:49] <Sergeant_Pony> hmm.. none of them are working
[02:49] <fta> plugins or addons ?
[02:50] <fta> plugins or extensions ?
[02:51] <Sergeant_Pony> add-ons. got them all working except my side bar
[02:52] <fta> maybe it's not compatible with ff 3.0.. yet
[02:53] <Sergeant_Pony> it was working before the snafu.. but we'll wait and see
[08:51] <asac> Jazzva: hey :)
[08:52] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: install "firefox" not firefox-3.0
[08:52] <asac> well you can install firefox on top
[08:52] <asac> btw, you should never run dist-upgrade
[08:52] <asac> if you track a stable distribution
[08:52] <asac> just upgrade
[08:52] <asac> if you use dist-upgrade look what would be happening first
[09:12] <asac> bug 219655
[09:24] <asac> gnome bug 534056
[09:28] <asac> gnome bug 513837
[11:09] <asac> [reed]: err, when i click "Edit" in the summary of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419861 i get to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/summary which doesnt exist
[11:09] <asac> known issue with bugzilla?
[11:35] <fta> hi
[11:35] <asac> hi fta
[11:35] <fta> asac, could you please push mozilla-devscript #109 to intrepid ?
[11:35] <fta> too bad i can't do it myself :(
[12:00] <asac> fta: ok done
[12:00] <fta> thanks
[12:19] <Jazzva> asac: Yo! :)
[12:20] <asac> Jazzva: liferea :)
[12:20] <asac> Jazzva: i might be dense, but i dont know what debdiff to use to prepare the upload
[12:20] <asac> all appear to exclude something
[12:21] <asac> at least from the description
[12:21] <Jazzva> asac: What do you mean? I prepared them with debdiff {ubuntuold,debian}.dsc ubuntunew.dsc
[12:22] <asac> http://launchpad.net/bugs/228827
[12:22] <Jazzva> and then filterdiff {1,2}.debdiff -x *.po
[12:22] <asac> after the build-depends bump i see:
[12:22] <asac>  + liferea-debian-ubuntu-without-po.debdiff  (
[12:22] <asac>  + liferea-ubuntuold-ubuntunew-without-po.debdiff
[12:22] <asac>  + liferea-debiandir-debian-ubuntunew.debdiff
[12:22] <Jazzva> oh
[12:22] <asac>  +  liferea-debiandir-ubuntuold-ubuntunew.debdiff
[12:23] <asac> there is no debdiff that has all from what i can tell
[12:23] <asac> at least confusing
[12:23] <Jazzva> the first two are the diffs betwen ubuntuold/debian and ubuntunew version, as it is said in the wiki page for merging
[12:24] <asac> but why without .po ?
[12:24] <asac> why is .po in the diff anyway?
[12:24] <asac> in the first debdiff for instance
[12:24] <Jazzva> the second two are diffs between ubuntuold/debian and ubuntunew version, but just of the contents of debian dir. pochu told me he needed them
[12:25] <Jazzva> afaik, po is there because MoM doesn't remove it. MoM's junk... I was told to remove it manually, after making the debdiff
[12:25] <asac> yes those might be helpful for reviewing. but i still need something i can apply to any base and get exactly what you had
[12:26] <asac> interesing
[12:26] <Jazzva> Well, you can apply debian-ubuntunew-without-po to current debian's (15-1) and get 15-1ubuntu1, without po changes
[12:26] <asac> so the .po files are in the diff.gz of the previous upload?
[12:26] <Jazzva> applying ubuntuold-ubuntunew-without-po is the same if you apply to ubuntu old's version (14-0ubuntu4)
[12:27] <asac> but why without .po changes?
[12:27] <asac> where do they come from? from the last ubuntu upload?
[12:28] <Jazzva> From the new debian's? I guess it has the .po files which differ from the ones in current ubuntu. And I was told to remove it...afaik, we use roseta for translations.
[12:28] <fta> http://news.launchpad.net/podcast/launchpod-episode-3-new-launchpad-release-and-terminator (there's a talk about issues with firefox translations)
[12:28] <armin76> bumb
[12:28] <armin76> where's my patch applied? :(
[12:30] <asac> fta: only see one general translation topic
[12:31] <fta> yep, it's at the end
[12:31] <fta> ... of that part
[12:31] <asac> fta: what does he say?
[12:31] <asac> (short version :))
[12:31] <fta> that it's different from everything else
[12:32] <Jazzva> asac: I might first apply the change to xul1.9 patch, regarding system sqlite
[12:33] <Jazzva> I would like to test it then first, so it would take half an hour, I suppose...
[12:33] <asac> Jazzva: i stated in the bug that we should keep it for now
[12:33] <asac> (if it doesnt hurt)
[12:33] <asac> fta: ok ;)
[12:33] <Jazzva> Well, I was able to start it in intrepid chroot and read feeds
[12:33] <Jazzva> :)
[12:34] <asac> Jazzva: good
[12:34] <fta> Jazzva, what do you want to change in xul ?
[12:35] <asac> fta: its about xul1.9 patch in liferea
[12:35] <asac> not xul :)
[12:35] <fta> oh, ok
[12:35] <Jazzva> The changes to liferea-1.4.15-1ubuntu1/src/liferea.in, that pochu mentioned
[12:35] <asac> we have a patch that allows non-system sqlite
[12:35] <Jazzva> ah... fta :)...
[12:35] <Jazzva> I thought asac was asking, still waking up. Sorry :)
[12:36] <fta> that hack in liferea is no longer needed in intrepid.
[12:38] <Jazzva> asac: Would you like me to upload diff.gz+dsc?
[12:41] <asac> fta: for now, but we dont know if we will have system sqlite in the final xul
[12:41] <fta> we don't ? there's a test in debian/rules so it's already in
[12:41] <fta> intrepid
[12:42] <asac> fta: yes. but we have to look carefully at the versions and performance once we approach release
[12:42] <asac> fta: whats the current sqlite version in intrepid?
[12:43] <fta> libsqlite3-dev |    3.5.9-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
[12:46] <Sergeant_Pony> asac? just got your message from earlier
[12:48] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: about firefox removal? yeah. just install firefox package too (if you installed firefox-3.0)
[12:49] <Sergeant_Pony> ok, thanks
[12:50] <fta> asac, Jazzva: we can use that system for extensions: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/pqm/test-bzr-home/+merge/296/
[12:51] <Jazzva> fta: with proposing branch merges?
[12:52] <fta> yes. good thing it's integrated and it could easily be parsed by a script to do the merge automatically once some trusted members approved
[12:52] <Jazzva> Sounds ok to me... :)
[12:54] <fta> i'll start a prototype soon. the specs seem stable now.
[12:54] <fta> just completing the refactoring of mozilla-devscript
[13:05] <fta> asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kazehakase/0.5.4-2
[13:09] <asac> fta: ok, so once an "official reviewer" voted for the merge, it would get to production, right?
[13:10] <fta> yes, that's the idea
[13:11] <fta> well, except that the script will have to be run by someone with upload powers
[13:11] <fta> ie not by me :(
[14:21] <fta> http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/05/29/rebreaking-the-web/
[15:12] <fta> asac, i've pushed the refactored mozclient. it's a pretty big patch. 33 files changed, 945 insertions(+), 450 deletions(-). Let me know what you think.
[15:21] <asac> havent retrieved that commit yet
[15:26] <fta> 110
[15:50] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15802/
[15:51] <fta> well, it's better to pull the branch and read from there
[15:53] <armin76> fta: where's the thunderbird-3.0 not full? :)
[15:53] <asac> armin76: thunderbird is always fat
[15:53] <asac> as usual
[15:54]  * asac looks at .pl file
[15:54] <asac> and feels dirty
[15:55] <fta> really ? i could have done something much more compact
[15:55] <fta> but i knew you would have cry
[15:59] <asac> hehe
[16:00] <asac> the dirtiness made me becoming distracted
[16:01] <asac> fta: do we really need the main script to be a .in file?
[16:01] <fta> what is dirty for you ? i mean, it's perl, not C so i don't feel like dropping the perl goodness
[16:01] <fta> just the libdir
[16:02] <fta> i can usemore perl magic to get rid of it if you want
[16:02] <asac> it would help me if the main script block would be split up in multiple stages
[16:02] <asac> that go their own wrapping function
[16:02] <asac> the main algorithm is hard to gather from that
[16:02] <fta> sure, that i can do
[16:03] <asac> fta: the feels dirty was a joke referring to my general mood when looking at perl files ;)
[16:03] <fta> in fact, it's almost done except the last 2 or 3 blocks
[16:04] <fta> i can introduce checkout(), pack() and cleanup()
[16:04] <fta> well, will do later today
[16:04] <asac> yeah. clean that up ... at best the main script will just have an easy to read algorithm with just abstract function calls and maybe a few cases
[16:04] <fta> i have to run for 1~2h
[16:04] <asac> sure
[16:05] <asac> but in general i like that idea
[16:05] <asac> maybe a bit too much genericism ... but well
[16:05] <asac> and the variable names dont allow you to guess easily what to use to tweak what stage of the checkout
[16:07] <asac> fta: from what i see the vcs logic is still special cases in the main script. we should have a plugin mechanism to add new VCS systems
[18:02] <[reed]> asac: wfm>
[18:02] <[reed]> asac: wfm...
[18:03] <[reed]> JS enabled?
[18:04] <asac> [reed]: which bug?
 [reed]: err, when i click "Edit" in the summary of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419861 i get to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/summary which doesnt exist
[18:04] <asac> [reed]: hah ;)
[18:05] <[reed]> looks like a dupe of mozilla bug 404314
[18:06] <asac> [reed]: good
[18:06] <fta> asac, i wanted to use objects at the beginning but it's just a script so I ended up doing it that way.
[18:08] <asac> [reed]: either that or mozilla bug 312225
[18:08] <asac> which is fixed
[18:55] <asac> fta: so what info do we need in our meta file to properly sync AMO extension sources?
[18:55] <asac> something like: <sourcepackage> <amoid> [<releaseseries>]
[18:57] <asac> oh darn, its late. have to run
[18:57] <asac> cu later
[19:09] <asac> fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412610
[19:11] <fta> hm, excellent
[20:53] <fta> asac, do you have the blueprints from uds posted somewhere ?
[21:25] <jimmy_> asac: did you get the email from Robert Saul? he didn't like your keys :) so you might need to regenerate one and send it to him