/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/30/#ubuntu-x.txt

brycetormod, bless you.  painful?00:00
tjaaltontormod: http://www.usv.ro/ftp/pub/os/dos/browser/QNXDEMO.ZIP00:00
tjaaltonneed to try that out some day00:00
tjaaltontormod: you need the swrast stuff from xserver master00:01
tormodit's the glx files moving around that kills me. actually it built fine on mesa r500-support branch, but now back on mesa trunk many things changed.00:02
tormodI have to backport the swrast stuff? oh great. another day.00:02
tjaaltonwith that you don't need to have mesa around, but I'm not sure if the problem lies there00:03
tormodI am not coming that far I think. now configure complains "No package 'gl' found"00:04
tormodsome package should have provided gl.pc I guess00:04
tjaaltonhmm, getting late.. night ->00:05
tormodgood idea :) night00:06
brycecya tjaalton00:07
tjaaltonx11proto-xf86dri, libpciaccess and libfs synced09:30
tjaaltonand xutils-dev09:32
bryceexcellent09:45
tjaaltonfiled a sync request for xcompmgr09:58
Ngbryce: is the EDID info returned by our projects bogus?10:12
Ngerr, projectors10:12
bryceNg: nope it's good10:13
Nghmm ok, nijaba's laptop only seems to see 640x480 for it, but then it is Mac hardware ;)10:14
Ngta10:14
brycewhat video card?10:14
bryceif it's an -nv, try rebooting with the projector attached10:14
* tseliot wonders why support for RandR 1.2 was added to nv only for geforce 8xxx or higher10:18
tjaaltontseliot: because nvidia says proper modesetting cannot be implemented in the free driver for older chips. at least not the way they want10:19
tjaaltonthere are some bugs marked wontfix because of this10:19
tjaaltonupstream10:19
tjaaltonI guess it would be hard to obfuscate :)10:20
tseliottjaalton: ok but isn't it supposed to work with nouveau (whatever it's spelled)?10:20
tjaaltonyes10:21
* tseliot wonders why NVIDIA doesn't open the specs as AMD did10:21
tjaaltonok, nvidia package built, now audit10:22
Ngbryce: not sure, but I'll mention it10:22
tseliottjaalton: let me know how it goes ;)10:22
tjaaltontseliot: btw, you seem to add a space on your msgs quite frequently, and my irssi doesn't like that for some reason (doesn't highlight the comment)10:23
tjaalton*in front of10:23
tseliottjaalton: a space???10:23
tjaalton" "10:23
tjaalton"space character"10:24
jcristauthere's a U+FEFF10:24
tjaaltonjcristau: what's that?10:24
jcristauZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE10:24
jcristauno idea why that comes in front of tseliot's messages10:25
tjaaltonoh..10:25
Ngannoyingly irssi doesn't understand characters not being 1 character wide10:25
tjaaltonI've broken my config somehow since it doesn't highlight msgs which don't have my nick as the first word10:26
tjaaltonjcristau: xcompmgr synced, but failed to build :)13:25
tjaaltonchecking for XCOMPMGR... configure: error: Package requirements (xcomposite xfixes xdamage xrender) were not met:13:25
jcristauhrm13:26
tjaaltonxext missing from build-deps?13:26
tjaaltonhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/14818641/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.xcompmgr_1.1.4-0.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz13:26
jcristaulooks rather like a bug in libxcomposite-dev13:27
tjaaltonah, ok13:30
jcristaunot sure why it didn't fail here13:30
tseliottjaalton: how did it go with the nvidia package?13:42
tseliotI'm curious13:42
jcristautjaalton: there, fixed in 1:0.4.0-3. thanks for the notice13:44
tjaaltonjcristau: cool, thanks :)13:44
tjaaltontseliot: still working on it13:45
tjaaltonwas away for a couple of hours13:45
jcristauaha. our libx11-dev depends on libxext-dev13:51
tjaaltonso it was unnecessary to add libxext-dev build-dep for libxcomposite-dev?13:59
jcristaus/build-//14:00
tjaaltonah, right ;)14:00
jcristauand yes, that dependency was hiding the libxcomposite-dev bug14:00
tjaaltonbryce: you can drop fonttosfnt from the merge-page, it's not in the archive anymore :)14:39
jcristauoh, you had a standalone fonttosfnt package14:41
tjaaltonyeah..14:41
jcristauxfonts-utils ought to Replace it, then, i guess14:41
tjaaltondoes it have that?14:41
tjaaltondoesn't seem like it, but it could14:42
tjaaltonoh!14:44
tjaaltonthe version in ubuntu is ancient14:44
tjaaltondamn, how did I miss that14:44
tjaaltonxfonts-utils that is14:44
jcristaui just added the Replaces in git14:45
tjaaltonah well, the version number is deceiving, 7.4+1 is only a couple of weeks old :14:46
tjaalton:)14:46
jcristauyes :)14:46
tjaaltonI need to check that out later if it still needs a merge14:47
mario_limonciellhey bryce you around?16:09
tjaaltontseliot: http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg/nvidia-split.debdiff16:44
tjaaltongotta run, have fun :)16:44
tjaaltonooh, it rhymes16:44
tjaaltontseliot: it's not ready yet, but you should be able to add the missing dkms bits16:45
tjaalton->16:45
tseliottjaalton: ok, thanks, I'll have a look at it16:47
tjaaltontseliot: I didn't touch any Conflicts/Replaces stuff, so that's most likely broken atm18:19
tjaaltonalso, that package needs an epoch, since the current nvidia-glx has one18:19
tjaaltonbut the first goal is to get the contents right, and it's close18:20
tjaaltontseliot: I assume the other modalias-packages would be named 'nvidia-modaliases-legacy-{71xx,96xx}'?18:22
tjaaltonmm, more beer & food. I'm so happy that the uni finally decided to use netapp filers as fileservers for everything, and not windows. it only took five years..18:25
tjaaltonactually the funding was already agreed upon five years ago, but fierce lobbying from the ms lovers blew the deal18:30
tjaalton</offtopic> :)18:31
tjaalton->18:31
tseliottjaalton: yes, I noticed the Conflicts/Replaces and yes, the modaliases will have different names. There are still directories and files which we'll have to remove19:46
tseliotI will wait and see the result before I touch the source package so that we don't duplicate efforts19:51
brycetjaalton: I think it'll drop automatically when we switch to Intrepid+120:28
bryce(where it == fonttosfnt)20:28
romhi20:51
romhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/235982 I posted this bug report this morning with a patch20:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 235982 in compiz "/usr/bin/compiz : 1 bug and 1 missing setting" [Undecided,New] 20:51
rombut in fact, nvidia-settings -l should not be added in compiz launcher20:51
roma person on #ubuntu-devel said it affects nvidia-settings20:52
rompackage20:52
romand nvidia-settings -l may be added to /etc/X11/Xsession.d20:52
romwhat do you think?20:52
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romhi22:49
bryceheya22:58
brycetjaalton: I think I've done all the 8.04.1 sru's I'm going to do, most of the rest of the stuff I see needs more testing anyway, and a lot probably isn't appropriate for sru'ing22:58
brycetjaalton: I'm turning focus now to getting blueprints written up which I think will just take a few days.  Then full speed ahead with intrepid22:59
bryceI figure we should start with getting driver merges done (I need to do -intel...  -ati probably could also benefit from being done soonish)22:59
bryceit'd be nice to have some of the big pieces done before june/july since you'll be gone (and I'll be out much of that time too)23:00
tseliotbryce: where's tjaalton going?23:03
brycetseliot: vacation23:04
tseliotah, ok23:04
tseliotbryce: by the way, the xorg parser is almost complete23:04
bryceawesome23:05
tseliotand seems to work well23:05
tseliotI hope it can replace guidance ;)23:06
brycetseliot: cool, we'll need a blueprint on that too.  I'll have some time next week for it.  Meanwhile I put in an empty one on blueprints.launchpad.net.23:06
romhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/235982 I reported this bug, with a patch, but actually, nvidia-settings -l should be done elsewhere23:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 235982 in compiz "/usr/bin/compiz : 1 bug and 1 missing setting" [Undecided,New] 23:06
rommaybe /etc/X11/Xsession.d23:06
romwhat do you think?23:06
tseliotbryce: ok, great23:06
tseliotrom: try asking in #ubuntu-devel . Maybe ask Amaranth about it23:07
romI asked in #ubuntu-devel, someone tell me to ask in ubuntu-23:07
romx23:07
rom:)23:07
tseliotrom: that affects compiz23:08
romin fact, no23:08
romall the opengl applications23:08
tseliotyour patch does23:08
romyes my patch does23:08
rombut nvidia-settings -l should not be done in compiz23:08
rombut should be independant23:08
rom(even if of course, it works if I put it in compiz)23:09
romwhere do you think it's possible to launch nvidia-settings -l23:15
rom"the right place"?23:15
tseliotas a temporary fix you might add it to your gnome-session, kde-session, etc.23:17
tseliotIn GNOME you can do it by selecting System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs 23:17
tseliotjust add this command:23:18
romyes... but... as a not temporary fix (my temporary fix is to do it in compiz)23:18
tseliotnvidia-settings --load-config-only23:18
rom:)23:18
romto correct the problem in ubuntu repositories23:18
tseliotI'll think about it. I must leave now.23:25
romok good night :)23:27

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