[00:00] <neofax> Brother_NoX: You mean using wine?
[00:00] <Catslacks> JonathanEllis: How do I do that?
[00:00] <Arrick> CITguy08 if you are installing a SERVER, doesnt common sense say that you know how to setup a static IP on your server?
[00:00] <Brother_NoX> yes using wine
[00:00] <mordof> neofax: they're already uncommented
[00:00] <insomnia_> neofax: didnt find an error
[00:00] <mordof> neofax: they were by default
[00:00] <HackOfChris> skatefox, then what would crossover office be used for?
[00:00] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: I don't know of a way to force it to recognize your DVD.
[00:00] <ompaul> Brother_NoX, wine best ask in #winehq
[00:00] <amrik2> hi, when i try to sudo aptitude dist-upgrade the openoffice.org language packs get broken for me
[00:00] <holyguyver_> How do I get Audacity to work with Hardy?\
[00:00] <neofax> insomnia_: Do you have X then?
[00:00] <amrik2> any ideas on how to fix this?
[00:01] <neofax> mordof: You will need to use google to find a repo that contains irssi
[00:01] <skatefox> HackOfChris: Mainly for microsoft office apps and what not
[00:01] <Jack_Sparrow> HackOfChris Windows business type apps..
[00:01] <doolph> hello
[00:01] <CITguy08> Arrick: yes, but if in the event that you cannot set it up properly. DHCP enables you to install the packages you need without having to muddle with the static NIC address.
[00:01] <doolph> how are you?
[00:01] <insomnia_> neofax: when you say X what exactly do you meen? i have X serv running i think
[00:01] <CITguy08> That's at least how I look at it.
[00:02] <Catslacks> JonathanEllis: It says to insert a cd even when it is in
[00:02] <neofax> mordof: That is strange, because irssi is in the universe repo
[00:02] <jrib> mordof: irssi is in the repos.  Pastebin the contents of  your sources.list and the output of 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install irssi'
[00:02] <HackOfChris> What partitions would yall suggest with a 110g hard drive?  I need windows vista and ubuntu
[00:02] <neofax> insomnia_: Do <ctl>+<alt>+7
[00:03] <Arrick> CITguy08 I kind of like the option to choose static or dhcp at the beginning, because my IP's are normally allocated for servers, and the dhcp bank isnt allowed to the net other than through those servers lol
[00:03] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> HackOfChris: Bad language like that, is it necessary?? LOL
[00:03] <neofax> If X is up, then you will be in it then after pressing those keys.
[00:03] <revilodraw> when i try to configure my network interfaces, i am told that 'the interface does not exist'. also, i was using the proprietary driver for my wireless card, and all of a sudden it has disappeared.
[00:03] <tj83> HackifChris.... I have 150... I like mine 50/50/50 for two OS's and data storage
[00:03] <insomnia_> neofax: ok
[00:03] <doolph> anyone know how do I disable the beeps???
[00:03] <CITguy08> Arrick: I agree, but for those that need something up quick, I think DHCP helps so that you can configure the static IP later.
[00:03] <Arrick> HackOfChris install vista FIRST, and you want about 40+ for vista alone
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> HackOfChris 70 - 80 windows..  10 root 30 /home  plus swap equal > ram
[00:03] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: Did you ever have your ethernet/wireless cards working on that computer under any OS?
[00:04] <tj83> HackofChris  I have 150... I like mine 50/50/50 for two OS's and data storage
[00:04] <mordof> neofax: decided to use normal repos instead of the ca. ones.. seemed to be the issue
[00:04] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: Both worked under Vista no problem
[00:04] <AcornAcorn> argh, what does "umount: /media/cdrom0 mount disagrees with the fstab" mean? :(
[00:04] <dare> I broked synaptec PLEASE HELP
[00:04] <dare> E: The package avast4server needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[00:04] <dare> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[00:04] <HackOfChris> Chiselhuk_Plus1, lol, well if engineering didnt require it i would use it
[00:04] <CatCheeto> tj83: What about a swap partition?
[00:04] <insomnia_> neofax: btw i just checked with synaptic and for some reason nvidia-xconfig isnt installed (not ticked)... and when i ticked i... it said that nvidia-glx would be removed in the process
[00:04] <HackOfChris> tj83, what os's are ya using?
[00:04] <tj83> HackofChris but thats really depends on how you want to make use of it...
[00:04] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Jack_Sparrow:  You using bad language too!!  Best tagline I ever heard from the old BBS days "If a tree falls on Bill Gates, WHO CARES!!" :)
[00:05] <tj83> Catcheeto.... ya.. i just dont think of swap as a useful partition.... swap is 2gb... so its more like 49/49/49/2
[00:05] <mordof> neofax: yeah, lol.. canadian repos are messed xD wouldn't update
[00:05] <tj83> HackofChris... I was using vista/Ubuntu
[00:05] <Arrick> CITguy08 thats just something I would like to remain an option, however if the server im working on doesnt get past "Resolving dependencies of base packages" the point will be moot anyways
[00:05] <tj83> but now its ubuntu/testbed/storage
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Chiselhuk_Plus1 What is bad language.. I would like to know as I would not intentionally do that?
[00:05] <mcrawfor> trying to upgrade feisty->hardy but do-release-upgrade only sees gutsy - how can I get it to see hardy?
[00:05] <insomnia_> neofax: btw i just checked with synaptic and for some reason nvidia-xconfig isnt installed (not ticked)... and when i ticked i... it said that nvidia-glx would be removed in the process
[00:06] <CatCheeto> tj83: just checking. I am newish to linux in general, wanted to make sure that 2 gb I have for a swap drive really is useful, lol
[00:06] <deltaslaya> What is Analog Mix? It solved my static problem when I muted it?
[00:06] <HackOfChris> tj83, I need to install vista first then install ubuntu?
[00:06] <insomnia_> neofax: and i did alt_cntrl+7
[00:06]  * Chiselhuk_Plus1 regards any mention of Microsoft or any of it's products as bad language!!! :P
[00:06] <tj83> HackofChris... i just seen the light and realized.. one doesnt need windows anymore
[00:06] <jrib> mcrawfor: you have to upgrade to gutsy first, you can't skip releases in general
[00:06] <doolph> HackOfChris: you don't need Vista anymore
[00:06] <tj83> HackofChris  thats is correct. vista first.
[00:06] <mcrawfor> jrib: really, that has always worked for me before
[00:06] <doolph> lol
[00:06] <jrib> mcrawfor: it's not supported
[00:06] <tj83> but i encourage you to dump windows entirely
[00:06] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> doolph: Vista is a bad word too!! tsk-tsk!
[00:06] <Arrick> Chiselhuk_Plus1 thats because you like to work twice as hard for the same result ;'P
[00:07] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: Well I don't think I can help, because if Ubuntu doesn't even have logical names assigned to your ethernet/wireless cards... that's too low-level of a problem for what I'm experienced with.
[00:07] <amrik2> i thought we werent allowed to say v*sta, its a banned word in this channel
[00:07] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> tj83: That's my man!!! Kill Windoze!! :)
[00:07] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: I personally have ubuntu only, but I have VirtualBox with windows in it
[00:07] <neofax> insomnia_: It may mean you have to different repos pulling in that file and one is a higher version than the other or you could have manually installed nvidia-xconfig
[00:07] <doolph> Ubuntu + virtualization + XP if you really need windows applications
[00:07] <tj83> doolph.... i second your opinion!
[00:07] <HackOfChris> doolph, well if linux could run these engineering programs, i'd just go linux
[00:07] <AcornAcorn> argh, what does "umount: /media/cdrom0 mount disagrees with the fstab" mean? :(
[00:07] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: Yeah, I'll give it a bit more and then I give up. I've been defeated by Ubuntu. :( lol.
[00:07] <glitsj16> catcheeto: how much RAM do you have ?
[00:07] <randbot> freetards...
[00:07] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, if i run windows in VirtualBox, what all can i do?
[00:07] <doolph> HackOfChris: try VirtualBox, I have Adobe CS3 Full in it
[00:07] <jrib> randbot: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[00:07] <facilitador> hello friends
[00:07] <Gh0st75> anyone having trouble downloading packages?
[00:07] <neofax> AcornAcorn: It may mean your /etc/mtab points to a different drive than your /etc/fstab
[00:08] <CatCheeto> Glitsj16: 1 1/3 gb, I have 1/2 gig for windows, since I try not to use it, lol
[00:08] <hari_seldon99> Hi. I'm tryng to boot off the hardy cd in 64-bit but it just drops me to a busybox initramfs shell instead
[00:08] <Arrick> everything as long as you DONT use the half-baked ubuntu OSE version of virtualbox HackOfChris
[00:08] <facilitador> I needed a link for download ubuntu ultimate
[00:08] <Arrick> ubuntu.com
[00:08] <Arrick> there is no ultimate
[00:08] <glitsj16> CatCheeto: 2GB swap should be plenty in that case
[00:08] <doolph> ubuntu ultimate?
[00:08] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Easily? Everything. Doing things like using USB and such takes more work. Also have to worry about having enough RAM to run both at once
[00:08] <HackOfChris> doolph, the program I have to run communicated and programs a breadbord for chip programming.  Will Windows in Virtual Box be able to do this? It's connected USB
[00:08] <randbot> Anyone
[00:09]  * Chiselhuk_Plus1 is no techy by all means 'n I can maintain a MS free home!! :D
[00:09] <facilitador> I needed a link for download ubuntu ultimate 1.8
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint | facilitador
[00:09] <doolph> ugh
[00:09] <HackOfChris> Arrick half-baked?
[00:09] <doolph> I don't know you have to try it
[00:09] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, the program I have to run communicated and programs a breadbord for chip programming.  Will Windows in Virtual Box be able to do this? It's connected USB
[00:09] <AcornAcorn> neofax: oh, maybe rightclick>unmount has nothing to do with gmount-iso
[00:09] <amrik2> HackOfChris: if you are using atmel avrs, then the linux suite of tools is quite complete
[00:09] <randbot> jrib:
[00:10] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Ewww, had to have USB... lol. It might work fine, I haven't had luck getting my USB stuff to work right, but I am very noobish, lol
[00:10] <facilitador> ha ok
[00:10] <Arrick> HackOfChris yes, the repo version of virtual box has a lot of issues, either get the .deb for linux, or go to #vbox and ask for a link to the .run script
[00:10] <amirman84> ﻿i just wanted to let everyone know that this fix: http://wvarner.blogspot.com/2008/05/firefox-crashing-on-youtube-in-ubuntu.html works perfectly. it lets you use pulseaudio for flash (which lets you have audio in flash without having to close other programs using audio first.) and it prevents flash from ever crashing firefox. all i have to say about this is WOOHOO
[00:10] <holyguyver_> Audacity is for some reason not producing sound in Hardy, is it because of Pulse, & how do I fix it?
[00:10] <tj83> HackofChris... you might be surprised if you dig hard enough.. i bet you will find opensource software to accomplish chip programming
[00:11] <CatCheeto> amirman84:Thanks, I have been looking for a good guide for that
[00:11] <holyguyver_> can someone please help me
[00:11] <revilodra1> i was using the proprietary driver for my wireless card, and then it just disappeared from the restricted drivers thing. how do i get it back?
[00:11] <glitsj16> holyguyver_:  check http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup .. it has a few tips about audacity and PulseAudio
[00:11] <holyguyver_> Thank you
[00:11] <HackOfChris> tj83, I probably could, but the teachers require the code and source files to all projects.  They compile it themselves to check us.  It sucks
[00:11] <hari_seldon99> hi. I'm trying to boot off the latest 64-bit hardy but it just drops me to a busybox initramfsshell instead
[00:11] <glitsj16> yw
[00:12] <vxd2> prw------- what is this??
[00:12] <Arrick> hrmm, anyone have an idea why my ubuntu server 8.04 install has been hanging for 15 minutes at 3% of the "Resolving dependencies of base packages..." on a compaq proliant ml330?
[00:12] <tj83> HackofChris... I See..
[00:12] <HackOfChris> tj83, so i'm kinda stuck to using there software alone
[00:13] <Starnestommy> vxd2: pipe, with read+write permissions for the owner only
[00:13] <HackOfChris> tj83, the only reason I was considering dual booting
[00:13] <glitsj16> Arrick: there's been different people reporting mirrors down at the moment, it might be related ..
[00:13] <Arrick> HackOfChris you could still give them the source if its written on an OSS platform
[00:13] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: I would start out with something like (depending on software) 20gb for windows, 2 gig swap, and rest for ubuntu. Then try setting virtual box and if works, you can forget about needing windows
[00:13] <tj83> HackofChris Well.. there is no shame in using windows for your lively-hood albeit work/education...... But Linux need to be your primary "you" OS
[00:13] <vxd2> Starnestommy: what do pipes do?
[00:13] <Steve-cal> Arrick: I don't, but you might want to try the folks in #ubuntu-server as they might have more experience with a server install.
[00:13] <PastorBones> Anybody got a clue as to why Ajax doens't work with ISPConfig?
[00:13] <bear_> I'm having an issue with version 8.04 not being able to power off my PC.  Is anyone else having this problem as well?
[00:13] <amrik2> Arrick: did you swap vterminals to look for error messages?
[00:13] <Arrick> glitsj16 i shouldnt need a repo when I have the disk
[00:13] <Starnestommy> vxd2: they allow one process to send information to another
[00:13] <Arrick> vterminals?
[00:13] <Arrick> how do I do that amrik2 ?
[00:14] <vxd2> i was hacked and i have rootkit srv4, how can i identify the attacker?
[00:14] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, another thing is i play wow, and can not get it to work right in ubuntu yet
[00:14] <amrik2> Arrick: you can check with ctrl+alt+f1, f1-f8 are your vterms
[00:14] <Catslacks> Can anyone help me get build-essential installed without the internet?
[00:15] <McJester> does anyone have a copy of sources.list for Hardy PowerPC?
[00:15] <KebabBob> Can I somehow connect to a windows vpn with ubuntu?
[00:15] <PascalLapalme> rmll
[00:15] <PascalLapalme> Hi
[00:15] <m_newton> Does anyone know how to get Google Talk that is in TERMINAL?? (sort of like naim but for gmail)
[00:15] <legend2440> Catslacks: are you on windows computer now?
[00:15] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: I have gotten WoW to play using wine. My vid card doesn't meet requirements on this PC though, so it was slow. My understanding is it is due to the vid card and not running on wine, but I can't confirm till I get my normal PC back :(
[00:16] <vrkhans> hi i have a problem
[00:16] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, what vid card ya got?
[00:16] <Arrick> !ask
[00:16] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, when I run WOW I get 4fps
[00:16] <bear_> I'm having an issue with ubuntu not being able to power off my PC. version 8.04.  is this an ACPI issue??
[00:17] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Onboard... lol. Even with that I was getting 10fps. I honestly don't even remember the specs to it
[00:17] <Catslacks> legend2440: Yes
[00:17] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, Using any addons?
[00:17] <vrkhans> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop which has atheros wireless card on it. but for some reason my wireless internet on my laptop is not working
[00:17] <tj83> <----finds that games are not really up-to-par in the linux world yet... but there are much more exciting and fun things to learn in here rather than windows... if games are your main use.... Linux is on its way to being for you... but not quite there yet.
[00:17] <Lunar_Lamp> !atheros
[00:17] <vrkhans> can any one help me, what should i do
[00:17] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, that's with no addons
[00:17] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, And where were you in WoW?
[00:17] <amrik2> tj83: we'll always have nethack :)
[00:17] <vrkhans> any easy way out
[00:18] <riddlebox> can anyone get me an invite to #eeebuntu?
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 Comments and opinions are best in offtopic channel..   But check out World of Padman for a cute FPS Linux game
[00:18] <tj83> brb smoke time.
[00:18] <legend2440> Catslacks: you might have to download ubuntu cdrom iso and burn it drom that computer, let me guess no cd burner on that computer right?
[00:18] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, I was in SW, but I moved out into Elwen Forest, and still same fps
[00:18] <glitsj16> vrkhans: look at the link Lunar_Lamp gave you
[00:18] <tj83> Jack_sparrow your right... my apologies
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:18] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, Hrm, what video card are you running?
[00:19] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, onboard, intel 945
[00:19] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, That's why. The Intel GMA945/50 is not meant for gaming.
[00:19] <vrkhans> glitsj16 any other way beside ndiswrapper
[00:19] <m_newton> Does anyone know how to get Google Talk that is in TERMINAL??
[00:19] <JonathanElli1> Hi. Sorry, my system disconnected. If you replied to my post about partitioning could you please post again. Thanks
[00:19] <glitsj16> vrkhans: not that i know of no
[00:20] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, yeah, but I was expecting more, since I get about 400% more than that in windows
[00:20] <jdrake> m_newton: There is a pidgin project that does terminal I think
[00:20] <jdrake> Is there any packages available for firefox 3rc1?
[00:20] <Catslacks> legend2440: Actually, that's what I'm doing. It's sort of a last-ditch-effort
[00:20] <Arrick> Im getting [312.513768] kernel panic - not syncing: Attempter to kill init!
[00:20] <vrkhans> ok so thats the only option we have
[00:20] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, Still, I wouldn't expect much from the Intel GMA945
[00:20] <vrkhans> let me try that
[00:20] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Yeah, vidcard not meant for gaming + OS not meant for gaming will kill it
[00:20] <Arrick> what does this error mean?
[00:20] <Odd-rationale> m_newton: try finch. it is basically. pidgin in terminal
[00:20] <vrkhans> then
[00:21] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, so I should stick dual-boot if I want to play
[00:21] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Since you are dual booting anyway, windows will be better for WoW till you can get a better vid card
[00:21] <WheelerLT> when I shutdown, the harddrives park, but the system continues to run.  Does anyone know a fix for this?
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> HackOfChris Yes
[00:21] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Anything else you plan to do in windows?
[00:22] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, lol, laptop, can't upgrade card, it's a DELL :(
[00:22] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, that's all, wow and the engineering stuff
[00:22] <matthew> anyone know how to get SDL working with anjuta?
[00:22] <McJester> where can I get a new source.list file?
[00:22] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Doh... lol. I know the feeling. You plan on sharing files between the OS's?
[00:22] <jrib> McJester: use System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[00:23] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, was thinking about doing 20/20/rest
[00:23] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Like music or anything?
[00:23] <titi13> Hello ?
[00:23] <mardi_soir> hello
[00:23] <mardi_soir> i have a problem
[00:23] <McJester> jrib, that lets you edit the existing one, I need to restore the whole file back to default
[00:23] <mardi_soir> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4d03fcc4   this one
[00:23] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, yea, music and pictures...That reminds me, I need itunes for my iphone
[00:23] <mardi_soir> it is 8.04
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> mardi_soir Please post a description of the problem when you post a link
[00:24] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, I wish they'd come out with a linux version of itunes
[00:24] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, They won't =/
[00:24] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: The swap file should be left fairly small, 2 gb or so. And if sharing then you'll want a partition for that.
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> mardi_soir: try askin in #ubuntu-fr
[00:24] <vrkhans> how i can untar a file
[00:24] <mardi_soir> Jack_Sparrow,  apt-get or aptitude fails
[00:24] <jrib> vrkhans: double click on it
[00:24] <matthew> mardi_soir: that links to a file in french...
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[00:24] <JonathanElli1> Anyone with any thoughts on partitioning? I plan to put /home on a second hard drive but from various articles it seems there may be advantages in putting / and /boot on separate partitions. Any other opinions on what is good to split out? I have two 40GB hard drives plus a 6GB drive that I plan to use for swap.
[00:24] <Ahadiel> vrkhans, tar xzf file.tar I believe
[00:24] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, ok, so 20(windows)/20(ubuntu)/2(swap)/rest?
[00:24] <jrib> McJester: are you sure you can't delete the one you have and use that interface to recreate it?
[00:25] <Gh0st75> anyone else getting unable to connect errors when trying to update packages, able to surf fine, just can't download form ubuntu archives
[00:25] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, i know, but they should
[00:25] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, LOL
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 Pulling that 6gig out will most likely increase your overall performance
[00:25] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Should work out just fine, specially if most your files are on the last partition for sharing. That is roughly what I had before using virtualbox instead
[00:25] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: Really? Why is that?
[00:25] <mardi_soir> Odd-rationale,  matthew  > no matter the langage .. see file
[00:25] <McJester> jrib, I didn't want to risk the chance of it not recreating
[00:25] <amrik> when installing a vista/ubuntu dual boot, which is easier to install first or second?
[00:25] <mardi_soir> /var/lib/dpkg/available
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> HackOfChris Sep home is always a good idea
[00:26] <matthew> !fr|mardi_soir
[00:26] <Odd-rationale> mardi_soir: i don't understand what you put in the pastebin says...
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 It is probably an older slower drive and you would better off dumping it
[00:26] <matthew> mardi_soir, if french is your first language...
[00:26] <Ahadiel> amrik, Ubuntu second
[00:26] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, ok, do you think itunes would work good in Windows in Virtual Box?
[00:26] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, I can try it right now if you'd like.
[00:27] <matthew> mardi_soir, I bet that that channel can help you more
[00:27] <mardi_soir> matthew,  french ubuntu channel users are currently talking about windows versus GNU/Linux .. so borring
[00:27] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, that would be kewl of ya
[00:27] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: Yes it is an older drive. I was only using it because someone told me that the reduced seek time would improve performance.
[00:27] <amrik> Ahadiel: so if i have ubuntu installed first, is it that i'm screwed?
[00:27] <matthew> mardi_soir, yes, but we can't read your file :(
[00:27] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: should work just fine
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> mardi_soir: give them the !offtopic factiod... ;)
[00:27] <mardi_soir> matthew,  ok so thanks for your explain :)
[00:27] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: I mean reduced seek time because the drive is not seeking from data to swap and back again
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 You are unlikely to use it much and it could in theory slow down your main drive
[00:27] <Ahadiel> amrik, Umm, You could probably install grub while inside Ubuntu, but I'm not an expert on the subject.
[00:28] <Wolf23> hello
[00:28] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: OK thanks
[00:28] <amrik> Ahadiel: oh in that case sure then its trivial. thanks
[00:28] <mardi_soir> Odd-rationale,  not at all .. i ll be patient thanks to you too
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 Just my opinion..  but I would not use it
[00:28] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: I also heard the most recent version can install inside windows and run as its own virtual machine. No idea how well it works thogh
[00:28] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Most recent version of ubuntu that is
[00:28] <Wolf23> help please! how can i burn VIDEO_TS folder on k3b?
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 If you are hitting swap then you should increase ram...
[00:29] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, you talking about running ubuntu inside of windows?
[00:29] <Ahadiel> CatCheeto, Ubuntu is not really running insode of Windows. But rather it installs ubuntu to a file on Windows.
[00:29] <Ahadiel> CatCheeto, Therefore the user can remove it easily at will.
[00:29] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: I dont think I am hitting swap. I have 1GB of RAM which is the maximum my machine can take. I just put it in as belt and braces but I will take it out
[00:30] <CatCheeto> Ahadiel: So does it then use windows to act like a dual boot or a virtual machine?
[00:30] <Ahadiel> CatCheeto, it modifies the Windows bootloader to facilitate Ubuntu
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> CatCheeto If you are talking wubi.... you shoud read the faq.. I wont use or recommend using it
[00:30] <CatCheeto> Ahh
[00:30] <Ahadiel> I tried it once, was very slow. Never again.
[00:30] <theFATMAN> will installing kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu 8.04 cause any problems?
[00:30] <Ahadiel> theFATMAN, no
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> theFATMAN no
[00:31] <Jsn0327> Everytime that I click on something in dolphin file explorer, i get the error "The desktop entry file /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop has an invalid menu entry "AddAsPodcast" Does anyone know how i can fix this?
[00:31] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, Downloading iTunes as we speak.
[00:31] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, kewl
[00:31] <theFATMAN> ahadiel, what additional maintenance will be needed after doing so?
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> theFATMAN Nothing
[00:31] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, If I have xp installed, shouldnt all of the software for vista run in XP atm?
[00:31] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: So... apparently using wubi, the ubuntu on windows I was talking about is a bad idea, lol. As I pointed out, I am a newbie ;)
[00:32] <theFATMAN> Jack_Sparrow, you guys, rock!! peace
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> theFATMAN You just select between kde and gnome under options where you login
[00:32] <JonathanElli1> So apart from a separate partition for /home (in my case a separate drive) is there much advantage to separate partitions for / and /boot?
[00:32] <vxd2> where can i see when the machine was rebooted?
[00:32] <stequbu> Hi guys. I want to keep some of my data (music) somewhere else than my home directory. Where would you put it? And I mean keeping it on the system partition not on some other.
[00:32] <McJester> fixed the sources.list file by copying the contents of the sources.list.distUpgrade file
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 /  root  and /home are the main two
[00:32] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, It depends? Some Windows software uses Vista specific API
[00:32] <Odd-rationale> CatCheeto: using wubi is not a bad idea. it it just a rather new idea... it is not reccomended for pernament installs though... just trial...
[00:33] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: I understand why /home is a good idea. Did you say / root or /root?
[00:33] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, well, they are requiring vista, so i guess I need install vista....That sucks
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1    /          = root
[00:33] <glitsj16> Jsn0327: did you look at the contents of that ﻿amarok_addaspodcast.desktop file ? if possible, pastebin it so we can take a look ..
[00:34] <jon_high9000> anybody heard of when Firefox 3 will hit Ubuntu hardy?
[00:34] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: but there is a directory /root as well isnt there?
[00:34] <CatCheeto> Odd-rationale: Ahh, makes since.
[00:34]  * prower would dual boot vista just to be able to play some games but it's way too expensive :>
[00:34] <Jsn0327> ok
[00:34] <CatCheeto> jon_high9000: FF3Beta is on Hardy
[00:34] <McJester> anyone seen this error  E: openoffice.org-writer2latex: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[00:34] <McJester> E: openoffice.org: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 when you run the installer you will see what I am talking about.. when you select root it will come back with just    /
[00:35] <matthew> anyone know how to get SDL working with anjuta?
[00:35] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: Any thoughts how big / should be?
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 10 gig min is what I recommend
[00:35] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: What is the advantage to a separate /    ?
[00:36] <jon_high9000> CatCheeto: hi. i heard it can erase your language packs upon installation
[00:36] <Ap4ch3> McJester, not that specific error but seems like openoffice has some issues with upgrades. i get 'partial upgrade' from update manager
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 It always makes /       sep home is helpful when restoring or upgrading
[00:36] <tj83> HackofChris... one thing i would like to point out is that a friend of mine... Used Gparted to whipe his HDD clean of all partitions and then vista would not isntall...... You will need to use some means of Fdisk to do this before installing vista... I reccomend the use of Hiren's boot CD... but any means of running fdisk will do.
[00:36] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: By they way, not doubting you, just trying to increase my understanding
[00:36] <McJester> Ap4ch3, so you don't know the fix Im assuming
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 Never be afraid to ask...
[00:37] <glitsj16> Jsn037: do you have a link to your paste ? Put it out here if u want ..
[00:37] <CatCheeto> jon_high9000: Not sure about the language packs. I know when I upgraded to Hardy and it had FF3Beta, it sacked most of my addon's due to them not being ready. So I can only imagine what else it might break
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 You ask two people the same question, you get three opinions
[00:37] <HackOfChris> tj83, ok kewl, if i dual vista, 20g wont work will it?
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 let me get you a link for sep home
[00:37] <matthew> anyone know how to get SDL working with anjuta?
[00:37] <tj83> Hackofchris... just a bit of something to look out for. and maybe gparted would work out fine for you maybe not... Um 20gb is a bit on the shy side for vista....
[00:37] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: Its alright. I already know I need sep home.
[00:37] <Ap4ch3> McJester, nope, someone here suggested -dist-upgrade but that wanted to un-install firefox3b
[00:38] <amrik> matthew: look at the sdl docs, IIRC it was pretty easy to pick up
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[00:38] <JonathanElli1> Jack_Sparrow: That was always part of my plan
[00:38] <tj83> HackofChris.... I would use atleast 35-40
[00:38] <fungusman> ANyone know of any good video editing software ?
[00:38] <fungusman> obviously free
[00:38] <jon_high9000> CatCheeto: Yeah, i hear ya there. I am probably going to take the safe route and wait for it.
[00:38] <matthew> amrik, I can't seem to get it to find the SDL library, I added it through the package interface thing, which i'm guessing is wrong...
[00:38] <indio> What's that name of Ubuntu media player ?
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> fungusman devede or something like that
[00:38] <amrik> matthew: did you add the -dev package?
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !players
[00:39] <tj83> HackofChris... the thing about linux is ist relatively small.... so you can make your remaining space go alot further than it does in windows.
[00:39] <fungusman> I'm doing a sound track for a movie
[00:39] <indio> But the default one ?
[00:39] <fungusman> Last minute
[00:39] <m_newton> FINCH does not work if you want gmail in terminal
[00:39] <matthew> amrik: almost definitely
[00:39] <Ap4ch3> !codecs
[00:39] <Arrick> hrmm, #ubuntu-server is dead and no help in here, guess I will go with some other distro
[00:39] <fungusman> I need to put music over a small clip
[00:39] <glitsj16> fungusman: check the ubuntustudio distro, or at least their website at ubuntustudio.org
[00:39] <amrik> matthew: so whats the issue, are you getting include errors,linker errors what?
[00:39] <fungusman> All the free stuff is really hard to work with.
[00:40] <fungusman> I just need something with multi audio tracks
[00:40] <fungusman> k
[00:40] <jon_high9000> CatCheeto: thank you very much for your help though.
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> fungusman I dual boot to keep studio
[00:40] <will00> im running amarok, and im wondering if there is any particular advantage to running mysql vs. sqlite
[00:40] <tzd> i am unable to write files to my samba share usb hdd. I can write folders but not files for some reason. Any idea on what might be wrong please? According to my router where the hdd is attached it should be defaulted as read/write access
[00:40] <indio> What's the name of the default media player ?
[00:40] <matthew> amrik: the basic SDL functions aren't found, i'm guessing because its not linking against the SDL library
[00:40] <CatCheeto> tj83: But if he is just going to wow and use his school software does he need all that space?
[00:40] <HackOfChris> tj83, so 50g(vista)/20(ubuntu)/2(swap)/31(shared)  sound good?
[00:40] <fungusman> Can I dual boot with vista ?
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> fungusman yes
[00:40] <Jsn0327> glitsj16: here is the pastebin for the error http://pastebin.com/m564db2c3
[00:40] <CatCheeto> jon_high9000: Any time, hope it helped some at least
[00:40] <fungusman> I go all nix or not
[00:41] <prower> will00: mysql is really heavy weight for something like an mp3 player, sqlite3 would take up much less space
[00:41] <abuyusuf> Can someone help ?? -->> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811393
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualboot
[00:41] <glitsj16> fungusman: have you worked with ardour ? ardour.org ...
[00:41] <fungusman> I'm gonna daul boot this
[00:41] <fungusman> IT never works for me
[00:41] <fungusman> I don't know why
[00:41] <tj83> Catcheeto.... Well i dont know what a clean install of vista uses.. but my OEM disk with all the junk toshiba throws in installs at 17gb... retarted..
[00:41] <fungusman> I think it's the whole setting up that jack driver
[00:41] <jon_high9000> CatCheeto: it did. and thanks. bye now.
[00:41] <glitsj16> Jsn037: ok, taking a look ..
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> fungusman Windows on first... is easiest
[00:41] <will00> prower: is there a magic number of files wehre it would make sense to use mysql for an mp3 player?
[00:41] <tj83> Hackof Chris... i would still be conservative.... 35-40 would be my pick
[00:41] <abuyusuf> Can someone help ?? -->> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811393
[00:41] <fungusman> k
[00:41] <Jsn0327> Thanks
[00:42] <prower> will00: Not really, no...if you wanted to say, have a web interface to your mp3 list in php or something, mysql would be great in that case
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> abuyusuf Please post a description of the problem when posting a link
[00:42] <Ben> hi guys
[00:42] <CatCheeto> tj83: Ouch, my bad, didn't realize vista was that big. hopefully that is cause all the extra toshiba crap, but I doubt it...
[00:42] <abuyusuf> Can someone help ?? -->> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811393 [[ Any Media Hangs After Seconds Of Play ]]
[00:42] <tj83> HackofChris  i would still be conservative.... 35-40 would be my pick
[00:42] <will00> prower: i would love something like that but my college wont let me, guess ill have to vpn
[00:43] <tj83> CatCheeto... Ya.. i am sure there is alot of add-on.. but its massive compared to XP.
[00:43] <abuyusuf> Jack_Sparrow: i did now
[00:43] <Ben> anybody free to help me mount ntfs disk on server 8.04??
[00:43] <HackOfChris> tj83, so 40 for ubuntu,  is 20 enough for ubuntu or should i go a little bigger
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> abuyusuf Please post a description of the problem here in the channel              when posting a link
[00:43] <stequbu> how do you go about with the newest Hardy Heron to run a vnc server that can be accessed at login screen. Thx for any help
[00:44] <tj83> HackofChris.. you have a retail Vista disk? and you said you have 120gb total?
[00:44] <HackOfChris> tj83, i mean 40 for vista
[00:44] <abuyusuf> when any media plays on my computer, only few seconds or minutes then it hangs ! ( the media hangs, not the computer )
[00:44] <HackOfChris> tj83, it's 110g total, i was wronge... And the school gave me a free copy of Windows Vista Bussiness edition, so i have the disk
[00:45] <usuario__> oi
[00:45] <glitsj16> Jsn0327: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ has no mention for Servicetypes, try MimeType instead ...
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> HackOfChris I would allow more for vista.. ubuntu is good with 10 /   and 20 - 40 for /home
[00:45] <m_newton> anyone know hot to get GMAIL on TERMILAL???
[00:46] <Starnestommy> m_newton: use a console-based email client with gmail
[00:46] <tj83> Hackofchris... google give vista takes 7gb clean install.. so 35 would be my pick so i would 50/50 the rest.
[00:46] <HackOfChris> Jack_Sparrow, is 40 or 50 good for vista?
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[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> HackOfChris Depends on how much you plan on installing in it..
[00:46] <Ben> hackofchris - 40GB is enough disk space to install vista
[00:46] <abuyusuf> Jack_Sparrow , i did .. Can you help me with that problem ?
[00:46] <Starnestommy> m_newton: pine, mutt, cone
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> HackOfChris windows apps are bloated
[00:46] <Miesco> How do I check if I have a microphone?
[00:47] <HackOfChris> Jack_sparrow, i only need it for WOW and engineering applications and itunes
[00:47] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: lol, Ask a Q, get 6 answers from 5 people :)
[00:47] <tj83> HackofChris.. 110 3 ways gives 36gb each 36vista/36ubuntu/36storage
[00:47] <HackOfChris> LOL
[00:47] <Ben> tj83 - good call
[00:47] <glitsj16> Miesco: not trying to be funny, but shouldn't you be able to tell :p
[00:47] <CatCheeto> HackOfChris: Do you know how much room the engineering apps take?
[00:47] <HackOfChris> tj83, i could so 35/35/35 and a 3g swap
[00:47] <Miesco> glitsj16: Well I dont know if there's one built in to my laptop
[00:47] <Ben> make storage partition ntfs so it can be read by both vista and ubuntu perhaps
[00:48] <HackOfChris> CatCheeto, last time i downloaded it, the download was 1.5g
[00:48] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, Itunes seems to work fine.
[00:48] <Ahadiel> HackOfChris, In VirtualBox that is
[00:48] <tj83> HackofChris.. yes.. but how much memory do you have? if you have 1gb or over... swap is an "in-case-need" so its not even used.. i haven used not 1mb of mine.
[00:48] <HackOfChris> Ahadiel, ok
[00:48] <HackOfChris> tj83, i have 2g
[00:49] <CatCheeto> Ahadiel: Have you ever played with the networking options of virtualbox?
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> abuyusuf NO idea.. kinda tired .. It has been a long day
[00:49] <Ben> can anyone advise me on mounting an ntfs disk in ubuntu server 8.04?
[00:49] <tj83> HackOfChris... you could get by without swap all together.. but its not reccomened... I would allow the ubuntu install to choose the swap space for you
[00:49] <Miesco> How do I use my fingerprint reader?
[00:49] <HackOfChris> tj83, ok
[00:49] <Ahadiel> CatCheeto, I briefly tried to get bridging working, but I have been unsuccessful thus far.
[00:50] <HackOfChris> tj83, i think i may do the 36/36/36...I need install vista first though, right?
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Ben sudo mkdir /media/ntfs    sudo mount /dev/sdx /media/ntfs           sdx is your ntfs partition dont use the letter x
[00:50] <CatCheeto> Ahadiel: Ahh.. Yeah, I didn't want it to use the virtualbox NAT as I want it to use my routers DHCP, but haven't figured that out yet
[00:50] <slappy> I tried to give access to teachers to a student's HOME$ directory. The owner is john:student and the access right are drwxrwx---. The teacher is a member of student. But it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? What am I missing??
[00:51] <Ben> ty jack
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:51] <tj83> HackofChris... that is the best idea in my opinion... Yes vista MUST be installed first as Ubuntu will use grub to modify vista boot.
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !mount
[00:51] <HackOfChris> tj83, well i may go on and do that
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> HackOfChris yes.. vista gag me..first
[00:51] <Ahadiel> CatCheeto, Yeah, it's rather tough to get working.
[00:52] <HackOfChris> Jack_Sparrow, I dont like it anymore than you
[00:52] <tj83> HackofChris.... it will work well for you.  good luck
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:52] <HackOfChris> tj83, thanks
[00:52] <HackOfChris> Thanks all for the help
[00:52] <tj83> NP
[00:52] <Ben> jack - I get mount: special device /dev/sd2 does not exist
[00:53] <Ben> how can i be sure what sdx number my disk is?
[00:53] <jbroome> sudo fdisk -l
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ben sudo fdisk -l     L is last letter
[00:53] <ringer> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for earlier everything is good now. and im using cairo
[00:53] <steviebuns> meisco - most consumer fingerprint support is very limited - see http://www.reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Main_Page
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ringer Glad to help.. I usually get one right every day
[00:54] <nagg> Hi, is there any way i can repair the update manager, when i try to download something it just keeps thinking.
[00:54] <CatCheeto> Anyone have a suggestion for a VNC app that will work for windows and linux?
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[00:54] <ringer> Jack_Sparrow lol well glad it was mine then haha.
[00:54] <glitsj16> Jsn0327: might not be what you're looking for, but have you seen this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=619615
[00:54] <nagg> Can i do it while is still running¡
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nagg nope
[00:55] <steviebuns> nagg: try selecting different servers in 'Software Sources'
[00:55] <bloodrock> ben its not gonna be a number its gonna be sda or sbd or sda1 or sdb1
[00:55] <Jsn0327> glitsj16: Someone in kubuntu helped me fix it.  You have to add this line to the file
[00:55] <Jsn0327> Exec=dcop amarok playlistbrowser addPodcast %u
[00:55] <nagg> I just use known repositories.
[00:55] <Jsn0327> thanks for your help
[00:55] <slappy> I found it, just have to login/logout. Very strange in linux's world
[00:55] <b0xxy> penis=vagina=sex
[00:55] <nagg> Its an general issue, not particular to any software.
[00:55] <glitsj16> Jsn0327: thx for sharing
[00:55] <swansk> Every day now I have updates and every day I have to write down the update packages names and update them manually in the command line because the GUI update manager and GUI synaptic are completely unusable.
[00:56] <nagg> I try to unlock it as indicated.
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> nagg We are having repo server issues today
[00:56] <swansk> How do I reinstall synaptic and update manager.  They don't work.
[00:56] <cvd-pr> I need to write the UUID in the fstab so my vfat32 mount automatically?
[00:56] <bloodrock> ben also ubuntu should be auto mounting your ntfs drives
[00:56] <Ben> hey hey! mounting of ntfs partition successful! cheers dudes :D
[00:56] <steviebuns> nagg: select mirrors that are closer to you - go to Software Sources > "Download From"  and select "Other" then click "Select Best Server"
[00:56] <swansk> When I update manually the updates work instantly.  No server issues.
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> cvd-pr uuid or the old /dev/sdx
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Ben glad you got it.
[00:57] <nagg> !apt
[00:57] <m1r> hello all
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bloodrock He is running server not gui
[00:57] <nagg> almost
[00:57] <cvd-pr> and where i can find the uuid for my drive, its already mounted manually
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[00:57] <bloodrock> oh didn't see him type that lol
[00:57] <nagg> can you speak with him(?) Jack_Sparrow
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:57] <Ben> @bloodrock i dont think it auto mounts because one of my 3 disks has a smart error
[00:57] <cvd-pr> The drive dont mount until i double-click in it
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> nagg Can I speak with whom?
[00:58] <nagg> the command to unlock the ud manager.
[00:58] <swansk> so I have an !apt problem?
[00:58] <speedemonV12> hello everyone
[00:58] <swansk> aptitude works fine
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[00:58] <nagg> thanks.
[00:58] <bloodrock> ben does the server run off a livecd too or it gotta be installed never looked at a plain server distro
[00:58] <speedemonV12> anyone having problem on a macbook pro with wireless after the update the other day?
[00:59] <swansk> what will that do UBOTTU
[00:59] <Ben> it will be an installed and shoved in a cupboard proper server
[00:59] <cvd-pr> ?
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> swansk Ubottu is a bot
[00:59] <bdog> lawls
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> bdog Be nice
[01:00] <swansk> But UBOTTU the bot might be on to something.  My apt front-end gui is messed up
[01:00] <slinker> So weird, I downgraded my python a bit back, re-upgraded it recently, and the only fallout is my oo-DocManager dissapeared
[01:00] <bloodrock> ben darn too bad can't try it on a livecd be interesting
[01:00] <rodrego> hola
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Oy vey
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry..  I need a break
[01:01] <CatCheeto> Jack_Sparrow: Is there a list for the ubottu?
[01:01] <Ben> bloodrock have you not tried mouting ntfs off of livecd?
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> CatCheeto Yes...  Dont have it handy
[01:01] <speedemonV12> anyone here on a macbook pro?
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[01:01] <danilo_> ciao
[01:01] <Ben> ooh btw whats the unmount command?
[01:01] <swansk> Ok Jack how do you suggest I fix my hanging GUI update manager?
[01:01] <Starnestommy> Ben: umount
[01:01] <ringer> Jack_Sparrow: can i get some more help with cairo? some open windows such as pidgin conversations dont show up in the dock
[01:02] <stemount> Ben, umount
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> ben umount
[01:02] <Ben> haha ta
[01:02] <bloodrock> ben they auto mount useing a livecd
[01:02] <Ben> its unmount in the unix distro we have at work...
[01:02] <Ben> cheers
[01:02] <glitsj16> ringer: welcome back .. all things settled in Synaptic ?
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ringer they wont .. it only goes to the system tray
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ringer it wont
[01:03] <ringer> glitsj16: yep.  all set for synaptics.  just looking into cairo dock now lol.
[01:03] <Ben> bloodrock, umount: /media/music: device is busy
[01:03] <Ben> i aint using it..
[01:03] <Condoulo> When I try to install Epiphany, I get this:  Depends: epiphany-gecko but it is not going to be installed or
[01:03] <Condoulo>  	epiphany-webkit  but it is not installable
[01:03] <ringer> Jack_Sparrow: oh, okay.  i looked but couldnt find a way to set the action for updated window actions
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ben man umount
[01:04] <glitsj16> ringer: I'll leave the "kiba-dcok" has a nice pidgin plugin that does that for another day ;)
[01:04] <Ben> ok...
[01:04] <ringer> glitsj16: haha i basically had kiba figured out except for the startup problem lol and i liked it, but im just weighing out all my options at the moment lol
[01:05] <gharz> guys, how do you complete uninstall an app? i've downloaded a .bin file from a website and installed it... but now i want to uninstall it... i've downloaded a java update.
[01:05] <josh> hey guys, quick question .... how do you mount a memory card? I'm new to linux, and not sure
[01:05] <Ben> lol im an idiot. I tried to umount with the directory i was umounting as the current directory
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ringer cairo setup.. applets and add systray
[01:06] <Theleg0nd> Hello. May I ask a question as well??
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[01:06] <Flannel> gharz: Without package management, it's difficult.  Hope the package put all its files in /usr/local/ or in /opt/ and then delete them.
[01:06] <bloodrock> ben, lolno wonder it was busy
[01:06] <Starnestommy> Theleg0nd: just ask it.  There's no need to ask for permission
[01:06] <platyhelminth> Hi, How to download 32bit libs/Dependancies when I am on 64bit ubuntu ?
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Ben bad boy
[01:06] <Theleg0nd> I have a problem, in order for me to click something I have to hold down control or alt and then press the left mouse button... How do I fix that?
[01:06] <tj83> Jack_sparrow... i thought you were taking a break LOL
[01:07] <josh> rough luck leg0nd
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 I wanted to get an answer for ringer.. yes... bbl
[01:07] <Theleg0nd> hmm is there anyway to fix it?
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[01:07] <gharz> Flannel: should i delete the folder? thanks
[01:07] <josh> askin the wrong person on that, I'm not a linux guru by any means
[01:07] <Theleg0nd> i just got linux today
[01:08] <josh> I've only had it about 2 weeks
[01:08] <Theleg0nd> figured out a lot... just didn't know how i screwed up the mouse thing
[01:08] <Ben> jack_sparrow Lol i have only had ubuntu server for 1 day lol
[01:08] <Flannel> gharz: Yeah.  And you got lucky it seems if there is one.  It's safer to stick with stuff under package management.  java is in the repos.
[01:08] <lap> someone know why xmms is no more available in the repos ?
[01:08] <bloodrock> Theleg0nd, try system>preferences>mouse
[01:09] <gharz> Flannel: now i'm facing a problem... i can't find the folder which it was installed
[01:09] <Theleg0nd> ok i will
[01:09] <steviebuns> lap: audacious is a good replacement
[01:09] <josh> OH! and .... how come my desktops don't show up in a cube after setting it up for that?
[01:09] <Starnestommy> lap: it's no longer maintained
[01:09]  * swansk is grumbling about update manager and synaptic failures.
[01:09] <Flannel> gharz: Right.  It probably isn't installed in one particular folder, most unix apps arent.  Is it in /usr/local? (/usr/local/bin would have some of it) if not, is it in /opt/?
[01:10] <tj83> josh... i had to install compiz-settings-manager... use apt or synaptic
[01:10]  * swansk has an update manager in an infinite loop
[01:10] <ringer> Jack_Sparrow well i added systray and didnt like it, so i got rid of it, now ive lost all of my systray icons
[01:10] <Theleg0nd> I tried. but it says nothing about having additional buttons to help you click stuff
[01:10] <lap> xmms2 is the replacement ?
[01:10] <josh> hmmm ok tj83
[01:10] <josh> I'll try that
[01:10] <CatCheeto> Is there an easy way make a list of all programs I have installed with synaptic/apt-get? The idea is to create a fresh install but have a list of things I have installed in the past to make it easier to get back up and running
[01:10] <steviebuns> lap: xmms2 isn't quite the same but audacious is
[01:10] <Flannel> !cloning | CatCheeto
[01:10] <lap> ok
[01:11] <gleyve_> turma..meus arquivos rmvb n sai áudio..alguém jah resolveu isso?
[01:11] <josh> any ideas on mounting a memory card for my camera? I wanna get these pictures moved over to my laptop
[01:11] <Flannel> !br | gleyve_
[01:11] <swansk> that ubottu is pretty smart
[01:11] <navetz> can someone help me, k3b wont let me burn a audio cd with mp3's, but I use to be able to do this before.
[01:11] <swansk> it seems
[01:11] <Ben> woot :) I have just rediscovered my playstation image files on my 160GB disk :) :) they have been missing for 2 years
[01:11] <CatCheeto> Flannel: Thanks! And do you happen to have a list of the ubottu commands?
[01:11] <glitsj16> ringer: there's a standalone (transparantable) tray app called .. trayer in the repo's, pretty stable and functional
[01:11] <Flannel> CatCheeto: I don't.  I know they're online somewhere, but I don't know the URL.  You can experiment in #ubuntu-bots, or in a query
[01:11] <Miesco> How come thinkfinger-tools isn't compiled with --add-user?
[01:12] <ringer> glitsj16 im just interested in getting my ststray icons back to where they were (top right) do you think a system reboot would fix that?
[01:12] <gleyve_> ubottu: sorry
[01:12] <swansk> hahahaha
[01:12] <swansk> ubottu: I am angry
[01:12] <bloodrock> the le try in system>preferences>keyboard
[01:12] <gharz> Flannel: found it... it was extracted in the same folder where .bin was located
[01:12] <swansk> ubottu: your a bot
[01:13] <Starnestommy> !botabuse
[01:13] <gleyve_> my ubuntu doesn's works well with *.rmvb files...it has no sounds
[01:13] <abuyusuf> Can Someone Help ?? ->> {"when any media plays on my computer, only few seconds or minutes then it hangs ! ( the media hangs, not the computer )"}
[01:13] <glitsj16> ringer: can't be certain, it all depends on what's going to be saved at the end of your session .. do you autosave in that department ?
[01:13] <stequbu> Hi guys!
[01:13] <stequbu> What are your experiences with setting up VNC so that it is accessible via Login Screen?
[01:13] <ringer> glitsj16 ha hell if i know
[01:14] <abuyusuf> Can Someone Help ?? ->> {"when any media plays on my computer, only few seconds or minutes then it hangs ! ( the media hangs, not the computer )"}
[01:14] <Ben> bloodrock having mounted my partitions i cannot actually seem to cd into the directories it says no such file or directory...
[01:15] <glitsj16> ringer: ok :) .. you probably don't then, cause you need to activate that explicitly, so yes they should return
[01:15] <Theleg0nd> Ok. i got a quick Easy question for most of you. how do i do a system restore kinda thing. Like in windows xp or vista you can go back to a backup for example before you got a virus or something?
[01:15] <peternix> does ubuntu also encrypt swap when installed via the alternate installer?
[01:15] <Theleg0nd> I saved my xorg.config files
[01:15] <bloodrock> ben you have to change to that mount or drive
[01:15] <jdrake> Any ideas what I have to do to fix this: http://hpaste.org/7975   (seems to be something wrong with perl setting locale)
[01:16] <kanuha> how can I have grub search and add available kernels to choose at bootup?
[01:16] <ringer> glitsj16: okay, going to restart now
[01:16] <cvd-pr> Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Files'
[01:16] <Ben> bloodrock, i have i think... cd /media/music/audio (audo is dir on ntfs disk)
[01:16] <glitsj16> ringer: you can try a logout/login
[01:16] <Theleg0nd> can someone tell me how?
[01:16] <glitsj16> no need for a full restart
[01:17] <Theleg0nd> How to do a system restore to an older backup??
[01:17] <Theleg0nd> i saved my xorg.conf files
[01:17] <kun> hi ,are you not in China?
[01:17] <Flannel> !hi | kun
[01:18] <kun> thank you!
[01:18] <kanuha> how can I have grub search and add available kernels to choose at bootup?
[01:18] <bloodrock> ben i take it music is the drives name?
[01:18] <Ben> yep
[01:19] <ivo_> what is diffrent betweent update-grub and grub-install?
[01:19] <bloodrock> ben if your on the mount wouldn't cd command be cd music
[01:19] <kun> This is a first time ,I am here,and my English is very poor.
[01:19] <bloodrock> ben or audio i mean
[01:20] <Starnestommy> ivo_: update-grub updates grub's config based on certain options in /boot/grub/menu.lst.  grub-install installs grub
[01:20] <Ben> bloodrock, yer thats what i was doing. i just said the full path name for reference
[01:20] <leonelll> hello folks
[01:21] <vxd2> what is the point of storing something under /dev/shm/ ?
[01:21] <ivo_> so better is using update if I change something in menu.lst
[01:21] <Starnestommy> ivo_: yes
[01:21] <vxd2> i want to see the emails that are being sent out from this box, not those received. how?
[01:21] <abuyusuf> Can Someone Help ?? ->> {"when any media plays on my computer, only few seconds or minutes then it hangs ! ( the media hangs, not the computer )"}
[01:21] <MrPocknix> is there a way to get a standalone visualiser in ubuntu?
[01:21] <Ben> bloodrock. I've done one of them idiot things again... ubuntu is case sensitive ... *hides face in shame*
[01:21] <ivo_> Starnestommy, : thx
[01:21] <kanuha> thx, update-grub is what I needed
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Ben Next time you will be sent to bed without dinner
[01:22] <Ben> LOL
[01:22] <Ben> i discovered my mistake when  samba served the directories with no issue...
[01:23] <AcornAcorn> When using terminal is there a keyboard shortcut for switching between tabs?
[01:23] <agomez> How do I share an ext3 partition that I have on a ubuntu server?
[01:23] <steviebuns> AcornAcorn: CTRL+PgUp/PgDn
[01:23] <agomez> I mean, make it a samba share
[01:24] <AcornAcorn> steviebuns: thankyou! any idea if it's possible to hide the tabs?
[01:24] <abuyusuf> Can Someone Help ?? ->> {"when any media plays on my computer, only few seconds or minutes then it hangs ! ( the media hangs, not the computer )"}
[01:24] <Ben> jack, in my defense it is 1:22 AM.... and I have been up since 6 am yesterday lol. anyway. now that I can play with my old ard drives successfully I think it's bedtime. THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP EVERYONE
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> glitsj16           I  Just saw Ringer's question... The answer is to right click top panel... select add to panel...  select add "notification area" to get systray icons back
[01:24] <ttmontoya> I'm trying to install this to enable my laptop to open midi files but this problem came up ho do I fix it. "sudo apt-get install subversion
[01:24] <ttmontoya> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem".
[01:24] <abuyusuf> mohamed: Welcome :)
[01:25] <glitsj16> Jack_Sparrow: thx, when he shows up again i'll pass it along
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry I didnt see it before he left
[01:25] <glitsj16> he left abruptly, eager to get them back i suppose
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ttmontoya open a terminal and type        dpkg --configure -a
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> glitsj16 Hope he does not do something silly in despair
[01:26] <Flannel> !cn | kun
[01:27] <leonelll> i have a good question
[01:28] <leonelll> is it possible to load FIREfox withing the sessions properties
[01:28] <leonelll> but in a hidden mode
[01:28] <leonelll> so that its constantly there
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> The better the question the better the answer
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[01:28] <leonelll> lmao
[01:28] <glitsj16> Jack_Sparrow: : i do to, worst case scenario is putting cairo-dock back to sleep i suppose
[01:29] <evilbug> what are some (if more than one) programs for scoring music?
[01:29] <leonelll> well thats something i already know the diff in this case is to load the firefox-2 within sessions and just have it automatically loaded when u log on... making firefox startup much faster when u open it
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> glitsj16 He will be fine...  Hopefully he is just googling
[01:29] <ttmontoya> Jack_Sparrow: do you know how to make midi files work on ubuntu
[01:29] <steven_> I have a Conky I like very much but would like to reduce its height in half.... I cannot seem to understand which option it is in the .conkyrc?
[01:29] <xenocampanoli> I'm not seeing my STDERR.puts output in apache2.  Is there something I can apt-get that brings this up?
[01:29] <steviebuns> evilbug: Rosegarden
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ttmontoya NOt sure.. the bot might
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !midi
[01:30] <xenocampanoli> It works in my centos
[01:30] <evilbug> steviebuns- anything else?
[01:30] <leonelll> any answers?
[01:31] <steviebuns> evilbug: scoring? not sure. midi trackers? lots. my personal fav is EnergyXT (pref the Windows ver. under Wine for VST support)
[01:31] <evilbug> steviebuns- thanks.
[01:31] <steviebuns> evilbug: EnergyXT = nonfree
[01:31] <eyzi> !dualboot
[01:31] <rnartos> what is a console based torrent client for linux/ubuntu??
[01:31] <ttmontoya> Thanks Ubottu
[01:32] <Starnestommy> rnartos: rtorrent
[01:32] <rnartos> thanks
[01:32] <hexoroid>  how can you check with nestat certain port ?
[01:33] <m_newton> How do i configure the internet in a server?? (wereless plz)!!
[01:33] <mhz128> hello world!
[01:33] <mhz128> Does Ubuntu, or other open source, provide support for RAR archives?
[01:33] <Arrick> ok, through terminal whats the update cmd? isnt it apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that?
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[01:34] <mhz128> !unrar-free
[01:34] <mhz128> !info unrar-free
[01:34] <rnartos> Starnestommy: rnartos: rtorrent => what are the dependencies?
[01:34] <mhz128> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:35] <xenocampanoli> I'm not seeing my STDERR.puts output in apache2.  Is there something I can apt-get that brings this up?
[01:35] <peternix> does ubuntu's encryption setup also encrypt swap?
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> peternix I would doubt it
[01:35] <peternix> shit
[01:36] <tj83> Now I have a question for all in here... Has anyone experience an issue with core 2 duo cpu not freq scaling with 8.04? My brothers laptop wont. If anyone has info or a good how-to or solved forum it would be greatly appreciated.
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> peternix Watch the language . thanks
[01:36] <Starnestommy> rnartos: libc6, libcurl3, libgcc1, libidn11, libkrb53, libncurses5, libcigc++-2.0c2a, libssl0.9.8, libstdc++6, libtorrent10, and zlib1g
[01:36] <peternix> how can I set things up to encrypt swap, as well?
[01:36] <we||s> is there a way to complet all my mp3 tags usin web database
[01:36] <Arrick> peternix google full drive encryption
[01:37] <steven_> Anyone here use conky?
[01:37] <steviebuns> we||s: easytag
[01:37] <grobda24> Do I have to into fstab to auto mount drives at startup. Is there an easy way ?
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> peternix YOu could eliminate swap partition and use a swap file on the encrypted partition.. I would think.. but that is beyond the scope of what I can help you setup
[01:37] <glitsj16> tj83: just the one link from the official wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support ...
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> grobda24 gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:38] <tj83> glitsj16... i will take a look-see thanks
[01:38] <glitsj16> yw
[01:38] <grobda24> Jack_Sparrow ... so I /have/ to edit that file ? Can I so it through the GUI somehow ?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> grobda24 no gui  other than gui editor
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> grobda24 it isnt hard to do
[01:39] <grobda24> Jack_Sparrow .. ok, thanks :)
[01:39] <steviebuns> grobda24: webmin is a web based tool that among other things can edit your fstab for ya
[01:39] <Sergeant_Pony> I need to reinstall FF3. anyone know why it wants to uninstall gnome-desktop?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[01:39] <grobda24> !ebox
[01:40] <grobda24> hmmm
[01:41] <funddevi> anyone know how to check mobo specs?
[01:41] <matthew> is there anyone here who has gotten SDL working with anjuta and can walk me through the process?
[01:41] <lap> someone know if hardy got problems with fstab ?
[01:41] <m_newton> How do I SECURE my web server?? WHEN MY port 80 is open?
[01:41] <Carbonflux> has anyone ever used iproute2 to use two gateways/routers at once over the same NIC, using a ethernet switch? I know its possible, just can't find the right rules. ALL the examples assume two ethernet cards.
[01:41] <lap> when i put "noauto" for my external driver fat32
[01:41] <tj83> glitsj16..... I see other unrelated core 2 duo issues.. but nothing pertaining to cpu scaling
[01:41] <lap> it mount it automaticaly anyway
[01:41] <Starnestommy> m_newton: it depends on what kind of security you need
[01:42] <tj83> Does anyone have a core 2 duo with cpu scaling enabled that can share some system information?
[01:42] <arfarf> can i program ubuntu to use my toaster?
[01:42] <lap> haha
[01:42] <iandotcom> that would be so cool :P
[01:42] <m_newton> I dont know much about security, i am hosting my own site using no-ip and apachi. How should i configure my port forwarding so it is secure??
[01:42] <Swish> arfarf, better off using BeOS...
[01:42] <Arrick> what repos are actually working right now?
[01:42] <arfarf> Swish, whys' that?
[01:42] <will01> does anyone know of a simple to configure and use vpn?
[01:42] <Swish> a BeBox can run an amusement park, you know!
[01:43] <abuyusuf> Can Someone Help ?? ->> {"when any media plays on my computer, only few seconds or minutes then it hangs ! ( the media hangs, not the computer )"}
[01:43] <matthew> if you program you're toaster you be computer controlled :)
[01:43] <Swish> arfarf, because Be was designed that way!  hacker's dream!
[01:43] <steviebuns> arfarf: yes you can - see LinuxMCE
[01:43] <funddevi> anyone know how to check mobo specs?
[01:43] <tj83> with all the intel marketing... i cant believe nobody has a core 2 duo in here... I have asked for info each time i come in for a visit.. each time i walk away empty-handed :(
[01:44] <Arrick> my server install is failing at the Select and Install Software stage, any ideas on fixing this?
[01:44] <Swish> someone should combine the best of ubuntu and BeOS and call it uBentu
[01:44] <matthew> is there anyone here who has gotten SDL working with anjuta and can walk me through the process?
[01:44] <HiTo> intel doesn't need marketing fore Core2duo
 I dont know much about security, i am hosting my own site using no-ip and apachi. How should i configure my port forwarding so it is secure??
[01:44] <peternix> ah
[01:44] <HiTo> they are good like they are
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[01:44] <peternix> there are certain sites that claim that the swap is also encrypted
[01:44] <Starnestommy> m_newton: you can either set the forwarding to forward or not forward
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> peternix WOuld you not want to be really really sure.
[01:45] <m_newton> OK, is there a way to make it secure?
[01:45] <tj83> jack_sparrow..... was that "ot" directed to me :) oops
[01:45] <Starnestommy> m_newton: it depends on what you mean by "secure."  By default, apache is mostly secure
 OK, is there a way to make it secure? You see i was running a port scanning program that told me that it was open and unsecure
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 It was a general ot.. but if you are feeling guilty....
[01:46] <peternix> Jack_Sparrow: is there a way for me to tell if my swap is encrypted by looking at it?
[01:46] <tj83> :)
[01:46] <pig-wrangler> I have a possible crashed harddrive that wont mount.  messages show this scsi 12:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[01:46] <matthew> m_newton: port 80 has to be open for a web server to work, that test is designed for normal home users (WHo don't host web servers)
[01:46] <Catslacks> Can someone help me? Ubuntu won't let me connect to the internet wirelessly or with ethernet. I tried to install build-essential from the cd, but it just keeps asking for the cd even when it is in the drive.
[01:46] <pig-wrangler> anyone have any suggestions?
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> peternix It isnt something I deal with...  but if you can read any of it.. it isnt..
 so when they say that it is unsecure, the port test is wrong?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> m_newton grc.com for testing your setup..   man iptables for more on that
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> m_newton Shields-up is the test I like touse
[01:49] <we||s> steviebuns: easytag sucks
[01:49] <peternix> Jack_Sparrow: reading the device file gives me nothing decipherable
[01:49] <we||s> steviebuns: easytag does not do the job
[01:49] <peternix> but I am not sure if this is how you read swap
[01:50] <Carbonflux> I am Trying to use iproute2 to use two different gateways, but all the examples assume you have two network cards, rather then a switch, does anyone have experience with this? I am running 8.04 :)
[01:50] <selje> Hello guys
[01:50] <exerdigit> would anyone have any idea why my package managers wont load anymore?? not sure how this happened but I cant get into my synaptic package manager OR software sources to change anything, it just hangs...
[01:50] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to install ubuntu directly from an iso?  without burning a CD?
[01:50] <shane2peru> Ubuntu mini to be exact?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> shane2peru nope
[01:50] <selje> Does anybody know about driver for wireless network on Toshiba laptop?
[01:51] <tj83> selje
[01:51] <tj83> what card?
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> shane2peru You need a usb or some bootable media
[01:51] <glitsj16> Catslacks: did you check whether the cd-rom entree is active in your sources.list ? Via Synaptic > Settings > Repositories .. if you uncheck all the other entrees it might do the trick and install the package from there, never done that so this goes untested
[01:51] <selje> i dont know. im using the Toshiba Equium
[01:51] <mungallo> dmesg | grep -i wlan0
[01:51] <tj83> selje... thats important
[01:52] <selje> yeah TJ83, but i dont know where to find it when he cant detect it
 is it okay to have port 22 open if you use ssh?
[01:52] <HiTo> anybody experienced in files recovery for corrupted file system (after it being added accidentaly in a ZFS pool)
[01:52] <mungallo> m_newton, yes
[01:52] <Starnestommy> m_newton: it has to be open for ssh to work
[01:52] <tj83> i dont know if it the same card as mine but use lsusb
[01:52] <quaddi> hello there im trying to change the color of the gnome ubuntu menu from the default black to white, I dont seem to have any .gtkrc directory in which to edit it as google suggests. Any ideas?
[01:52] <mungallo> m_newton, it should be listening only.
[01:52] <tj83>  0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.  is mine
[01:52] <boyam> Carbonflux, what are the ip addrsses of your gateways?
[01:53] <steviebuns> quaddi: you have to create the file
[01:53] <steviebuns> quaddi: then restart the panel afterwards
[01:53] <QUILz> How come when I disable my laptop's ethernet connection though networkmanager, my _wireless_ connection no longer works?
[01:53] <tj83> selje.... pm me
[01:54] <exerdigit> does anybody know how to fix my package managers at all?? i can't install or remove anything
[01:54] <Carbonflux> boyam, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2
[01:54] <mungallo> exerdigit
[01:54] <mungallo> open a terminal
[01:54] <mungallo> sudo apt-get update
[01:55] <PastorBones> what's a good webmail prog I can use with ispconfig and access my postfix mail accts?
[01:55] <steviebuns> PastorBones: Roundcube
[01:55] <exerdigit> alright,
[01:56] <PastorBones> tried roundcube, but it won't send emails, wants to use the ispconfig web6_admin account
 what do you mean listining only
[01:56] <Fogel1497> what is the ubuntu terminal equivalent of the Windows Ipconfig cmd?
[01:56] <mungallo> Fogel: ifconfig
 do you mean TCP and UDP, which one was listening?
[01:56] <steviebuns> !ifconfig
[01:56] <mungallo> The port should be listening.
[01:56] <exerdigit> mungallo, the synaptic package manager still wont load...
[01:57] <crashsystems> I've got a Dell XPS M1530 laptop her, with 8.04 installed via Wubi (vista is other os). The 's' key works, but doing shift/'s' does nothing. Shift and any other key works just fine. Anyone got a suggestion?
[01:57] <quaddi> steviebuns: thank you very much it works perfectly
[01:57] <mungallo> exerdigit: what was the output of the command
[01:57] <crashsystems> here*
[01:57] <Fogel1497> I need to find my default gateway, but when i type ifconfig i dont see anything that resmebles a default gateway address
[01:57] <Leefmc> Question: I've got a laptop where the cd drive is a bit fried, any chance i could install Ubuntu while leaving windows intact incase i need to switch back? I have many CG apps that i might need, so its hard to fully know if i can go ubuntu yet, but i want to try. Thoughts? (Linux beginner here)
[01:57] <crashsystems> Leefmc, check out wubi-installer.org
[01:58] <Odd-rationale> !wubi | Leefmc
[01:58] <mungallo> !route
[01:58] <Leefmc> Ty
[01:58] <mungallo> Fogel: route
[01:58] <Fogel1497> gratzi
[01:58] <mungallo> prego
[01:58] <exerdigit> mungallo, well, it shows a bunch of URLs for the updates and stuff.. didn't seem to have any problems
 which port is for listening only, TCP or UDP and what does it mean to listen only, this is for port 80 (appachi webserver)
[01:58] <Starnestommy> m_newton: apache is tcp
[01:59] <mungallo> exerdigit: something wrong with gnome then
[01:59] <matthew> m_newton: sry, I was away for a bit, but yes, what they mean when they say having an open port 80 id "insecure" is that its less secure than having all your ports locked down and closed, its a risk you sorta have to take with a web server
[01:59] <matthew> the port test for 80 doesn't really apply if you are hosting a webserver, because its geared to home users
[01:59] <boyam> Carbonflux, add a route statement with dev being eth0 or whatever your nic name is at the end for example route add -net 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 and route add -net 192.168.3.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0,2 dev eth0
[01:59] <exerdigit> mungallo, wow, yea my start-up manager won't even load now... what would you recommend?
[01:59] <Jafet> I load linux without the default "quiet" grub option. When the system boots, at one point the orange splash screen goes away and I get a lot of scrolling lines of system output in a black terminal. Question, has X started at this point? When does the system start X?
[01:59] <will01> does anyone know of a guide to making a simple vpn server?
[01:59] <mungallo> exerdigit: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure synaptic
[02:00] <matthew> is there anyone here who has gotten SDL working with anjuta and can walk me through the process?
[02:00] <Carbonflux> thank you boyam :)
[02:00] <tj83> i have a simple how to for people with the RTL8187b wifi card.. that untill now only share when asked... but where should i post for the most hits to actually help the masses?
[02:00] <boyam> welcome
[02:00] <mungallo> exerdigit: oh dear, that's no good.
[02:00] <HiTo> anybody experienced in files recovery for corrupted file system (it seems testdisk can see a linux partition, an fdisk -l too, but cannot mount it or anything)
[02:00] <adam7> tj83: there is a howto subforum on ubuntuforums.org
[02:01] <fde> tj83: You should create a wiki page, and request a change to the bot... like 'realtek is <string for explanation and link>'
[02:01] <exerdigit> mungallo, it seemed to have happened all after my system completely locked up a few times and i had to pull the plug... nothing else was working though to turn the thing off!!
 for ssh should i make it TCP only, for WEb server should i make it TCP oply also??
[02:01] <Leefmc> Question About Wubi: Are there any impacts if i use Wubi full time? That is, will windows freak out if i modify non-wyn_os files from wubi(or ubuntu, however you consider it)? With my drive broken, and my windows version being HP, i dont want to trash my ability to go back.
[02:01] <mungallo> did you try sudo poweroff?
[02:01] <fde> tj83: Anyone is free to edit the wiki, of course...
[02:01] <Arrick> ok, how do I get xchat in ubuntu to actually ignore an idiot?
[02:01] <mungallo> leefMC: no
[02:01] <tj83> thanks for the advice... after the trouble i had... i would love to share.
[02:01] <Leefmc> mungallo: Ty
[02:02] <Starnestommy> Arrick: /ignore nick!user@host all
[02:02] <Starnestommy> m_newton: both are just tcp
[02:02] <exerdigit> well, i was stuck on a flashing thingy in the corner, wasnt a chance or any place to type anythign in at all at one point
[02:02] <Steve-cal> HiTo: Did you by chance add the "-o force" option when trying to mount? It might be enough.
[02:02] <steven2> long term test check
[02:02] <Arrick> thanks Starnestommy I was trying nick all
[02:02] <steven2> confirmed
[02:02] <exerdigit> yea, i mean it literally locked up, nothing would open
 what does UDP do??
[02:02] <mungallo> exerdigit: weird. What type of system?
[02:02] <steven2> beginning overnight test
[02:03] <Starnestommy> m_newton: it's used for sending packets without connecting to the server
[02:03] <Starnestommy> m_newton: most programs use TCP
[02:03] <matthew> m_newton, UDP is for applications (I mean uses, not programs) that need lots of speed and don't care about data integrity
[02:03] <matthew> IE: streaming audio
[02:03] <exerdigit> mungallo, well, its a sony vaio vgn-cr120e with ubuntu 8.04 64-bit
[02:03] <mungallo> like a game pinging a server
[02:03] <tj83> would anyone like to post it for me? http://debian.pastebin.com/m62ccea76
[02:04] <mungallo> exerdigit: odd, my fj290 does ok
[02:04] <Leefmc> Lastly, no idea how this would work, but does ubuntu offer any way to install it from a usb on a empty machine? (or rather, without a cd drive)
 So it is best to go with JUST TCP, what about a program like AZUERUS
[02:04] <HiTo> Steve-cal no, but i think the fs is destroyed some way, as the drive was accidentaly (long story ;o added to a pool done with ZFS, however only a few data was transferred, so I think there is still most of the fles somewhere
[02:04] <vxd2>  i want to see the emails that are being sent out from this box, not those received. how?
[02:04] <Starnestommy> m_newton: I think bittorrent is also tcp
[02:04] <Jafet> BitTorrent supports both layers for flexibility reasons only.
[02:04] <Starnestommy> m_newton: but allowing udp and tcp is a good idea if you're unsure
[02:04] <exerdigit> yea, this was doing okay, until i plugged into someone elses broadband modem and the networking thing locked up my system and now this... not sure how to go about it... reinstall everything maybe?
[02:04] <mungallo> bittorent is tcp
[02:04] <HiTo> testdisk found some superblock too somewhere, but I don't know if they are for ext2 or ZFS (i am not sure if zfs uses some)
[02:04] <Jafet> Unless you notice something horribly wrong with either TCP or UDP it shouldn't matter at all.
[02:05] <matthew> m_newton: If you are streaming audio FROM your server, leave UDP enabled, if not, you can probably ditch it
[02:05] <Jafet> (Or unless someone is superseeding on only one protocol)
[02:05] <Steve-cal> HiTo: Did you do the obvious "fsck" on it? Probably a huge long shot, but...
[02:05] <Carbonflux> boyam, one more question if you have time :) ... my machine is at 192.168.0.11 should I use 192.168.0.0/24 for the -net ?
[02:05] <zaeka> help pls help
[02:05] <zaeka> big time
[02:05] <zaeka> ..
[02:05] <mungallo> depends on your proficiency, if you're pretty good, you might try to fix it, otherwise back up whatever you can and reinstall.
[02:05] <Flannel> !ask | zaeka
[02:05] <yordan> yes
[02:05] <exerdigit> mungallo i just thought there would be something simple... i cant imagine this can be that deep of a problem...i just havent a clue where to begin
[02:05] <yordan> its very long
[02:05] <matthew> is there anyone here who has gotten SDL working with anjuta and can walk me through the process?
[02:05] <yordan> i must speek on query
[02:05] <yordan> ok whit you ?
[02:06] <Flannel> !enter | yordan
[02:06] <jackw> Good MOrning everybody!
[02:06] <mungallo> Well, you can reinstal gnome.
[02:06] <boyam> Carbonflux, -net is the netmask of the destination network not your machine
[02:06] <HiTo> Steve-cal I tried but it didn't work, maybe should try again... first time "device was busy"
[02:07] <exerdigit> mungallo, hmm... the problem is definitely in gnome you think? or could it be just about anything at this point, i mean, based off what i told you??
[02:07] <mungallo> sudo apt-get remove then reinstall
[02:07] <Arrick> ok, who has a working repo for 8.04?
[02:07] <Arrick> the us. one is borked as usual
[02:07] <Steve-cal> HiTo: You have to make sure you run fsck in recovery mode or from a LiveCD for instance--you can't do it on a partition it thinks might still be mounted.
[02:07] <Carbonflux> boyam, ok, guess I need to do more research, don't want to waste your time given my level of knowledge, thanks again :)
[02:07] <mungallo> based on what you're telling me my best guess is that it's a gnome problem
[02:07] <Flannel> !mirrors | Arrick
[02:07] <yordan> can i query whits somebody , its a long story mine..
[02:07] <Flannel> !paste | yordan
 When you say streming, i have a loop of an anoying sound...'<BR><embed src="what.MID" autostart="true" width="70" height="24" loop="true"></p> </div>' (IT IS EMBEDED, that is not streaming is it?) Also is UDP is not secure right
[02:07] <mungallo> but I don't know for sure
[02:07] <quaal> anyone use bitpim
[02:07] <tj83> will someone point me to a link for posting to the wiki?
[02:08] <Starnestommy> m_newton: it's about as secure as tcp
[02:08] <Flannel> tj83: What do you mean?
[02:08] <mungallo> any error messages in "tail /var/log/messages" ?
[02:08] <yepyep27> ok, so I'm having a problem with moblock .. I tried installing it, which failed due to it not finding some dshield.gz file, and crapped on the install.. invoking the install again gives same problem.. and now, I can't even remove it.. remove, purge .. nothing gets that failed install package out of the list :/ halp =D
[02:08] <HiTo> Steve-cal I will just reboot, this drive should not be mounted by default, I will tell you the message I get
[02:08] <tj83> Flannel... i want to share some of my work for other to use for help
[02:08] <Flannel> tj83: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide
 so why make it TCP only, IS this rite (TCP/UDP = more packets sent = easier to hack = bad if you are running a biz)
[02:09] <Jafet> Nonsense, m_newton.
[02:09] <yordan> so...i boy myself a new pc the pc came whit vista i deleted it and i instaled a ubuntu 7.10 , but now i cant boot back to xp sp2 or 3, but i have 1 crapy windows full whit viruses , and i can boot whit him but not whit the original cds..
[02:09] <mungallo> m_newton: any traffic can be sniffed TCP or UDP
 Sry noob, plz explain
[02:10] <Jafet> Assuming that your TCP stack and UDP driver are both stable and working, there should be nothing potentially catastrophic about leaving both on.
[02:10] <jo_> WHAT THE DUCK
[02:10] <mungallo> any traffic at all can be watched.
[02:10] <TheMusicGuy> I need help with Rhythmbox; after installing a set of scripts to let audio play over bluetooth a2dp, Rythmbox gets stuck when I try to play over the regular speakers.
[02:10] <Leefmc> Question: While i do a system backup, are there any _beginner_ guides to ubuntu that you suggest i read while i wait?
[02:10] <mungallo> it's not a security issue.
[02:10] <m_newton> <mungallo, ya but wont more packets sent if TCP and UDP are enabled?
[02:10] <MrPiracy> how can i completely remove firefox64 and make firefox32 to be the default browser?
[02:10] <mungallo> yes
[02:10] <Flannel> Leefmc: For what?
[02:10] <matthew> m_newton: by default, most things use TCP, look at this for a better answer about TCP/UDP: http://www.skullbox.net/tcpudp.php
[02:10] <Starnestommy> m_newton: only if the program itself wants to send tcp and udp
[02:11] <Flannel> Leefmc: https://help.ubuntu.com/ is a pretty good place to start
[02:11] <Jafet> m_newton, the network will transmit as many packets as is required to send data across to another computer.
[02:11] <mungallo> M_newton: it depends on the program
[02:11] <Leefmc> Flannel: Into to ubuntu/linux, for beginners. I'm installing it for the first time.
[02:11] <Leefmc> Flannel: K, ty
[02:11] <Leefmc> intro* rather
[02:11] <yordan> ..
[02:11] <boyam> m_newton usage of tcp vs udp depends on what the app is doing.. it doesn't randomly use either
[02:11] <m_newton> ok, SRY gtg Dinner BRB in 30 min
[02:11] <MrPiracy> any equivalent in ubuntu for ipconfig command line?
[02:11] <Flannel> Leefmc: If you have specific questions, feel free to ask here.  But, for stuff in general, check that out.
[02:11] <exerdigit> mungallo, alright... ill have to get back to this later... thanks for your time.
[02:11] <danc3> MrPiracy: ifconfig
[02:11] <matthew> is there anyone here who has gotten SDL working with anjuta and can walk me through the process?
[02:11] <yordan> any help ?
[02:11] <Leefmc> Flannel: k ty
 ifconfig or iwconfig for wireless
[02:12] <m_newton>  gtg Dinner BRB in 30 min
[02:12] <Arrick> Flannel I have the install CD, Im talking about the repos for sources.list
[02:12] <samuel> Can anyone tell me where I can find the unshield .deb installers? When I google for unshied, I can only find a tar ball, which is full of stuff that I have no idea what to do with.
[02:12] <MrPiracy> thx
[02:12] <Arrick> thanks though
[02:12] <rkvirani> mmm got xubuntu goodness on my mininote
[02:12] <rkvirani> works wel
[02:12] <Flannel> yordan: You bought a new computer with Vista, it has no XP on it to boot to.  I'm not sure what you're asking
[02:12] <rkvirani> lots of powersaving at 800mhz :D
[02:12] <Shpook> Is there a package or program to allow me to access web content via desktop? Or an application that run in the desktop?
[02:13] <rkvirani> yordan: pendrivelinux.com
[02:13] <rkvirani> :D
[02:13] <yordan> Flannel, can i speek you on query my english its not very good
[02:13] <Flannel> Arrick: The wiki link there has package mirrors
[02:13] <yordan> im geting confuse her
[02:13] <yordan> e
[02:13] <rkvirani> lol
[02:13] <Flannel> yordan: What's your native language?
[02:13] <Shpook> For example, not in an application window, but in the same space that a wallpaper image will occupy?
[02:13] <rkvirani> Sphook, its called a web browser
[02:13] <yordan> bulgarian
[02:13] <Shpook> rkvirani: lol thanks, not what I meant
[02:13] <Flannel> !bg | yordan
[02:14] <yordan> ty
[02:14] <stequbu>  I was thinking about was setting up VNC so that it would be accessible also on login screen. Do you have any experiences with that?
[02:14] <yordan> nobody
[02:14] <yordan> ;)
[02:14] <Flannel> yordan: If no one there is active, we can go somewhere quieter
[02:14] <rkvirani> These little hp mininotes are rad
[02:14] <matthew> is there anyone here who has gotten SDL working with anjuta and can walk me through the process?
[02:14] <mungallo> stequbu: you mean like remote desktop?
[02:15] <stequbu> yes
[02:15] <mungallo> Mattew, SDL and Anjuta? one is a library and one is an IDE. I'm confused?
[02:15] <Fogel1497> How can i find my MAC address through the terminal?
[02:15] <stequbu> : mungallo: yes
[02:15] <Psyux> YOU CAN'T
[02:15] <codecaine> Fogel1497 ifconfig
[02:15] <mungallo> Fogel: ifconfig eth0
[02:15] <Flannel> Fogel1497: ifconfig
[02:16] <Psyux> jk, i don't know
[02:16] <Psyux> but obviously they do
[02:16] <Flannel> Fogel1497: it's hwaddr
[02:16] <Shpook> Theres a screen saver out there that works like that, but I can't remember the name of it. Sort of like windows live desktop or w/e it's called.
[02:16] <Leefmc> Question: Does Wubi allow for easy transition between ubuntu and windows? I forgot my college requires windows, so i'll have to be able to use it flawlessly, but at home i'd much rather use ubuntu.
[02:16] <the_alamo> are the updates available in the "hardy proposed" section of synaptic usually safe?
[02:16] <Flannel> the_alamo: no
[02:16] <jrib> the_alamo: not at all, they are for testing
[02:17] <the_alamo> ah.
[02:17] <Jafet> Shpook, Linux distributions don't have a default web browser module.
[02:17] <mungallo> stequbu: http://kevinsbest.blogspot.com/2006/04/working-with-rdp-in-ubuntu.html
[02:17] <mungallo> !rdp
[02:17] <Jafet> They'd better not, anyhow...
[02:17] <Flannel> Leefmc: wubi allows you to dualboot Ubuntu/windows without repartitioning, if you don't mind repartitioning, a proper dual boot is the way to go
[02:17] <yordan> okay
[02:17] <yordan> Flannel, just tell me a channel to go
[02:17] <yordan> or on quiery
[02:17] <Flannel> yordan: They're not awake?  alright, #ubuntu-classroom
[02:17] <ari_stress> Flannel: is wubi somekind like vmnware?
[02:18] <mungallo> LeefMC: wubi will work just fine. Any time you need to use windows, just reboot and select it at the boot prompt.
[02:18] <the_alamo> Flannel and jrib: thanks for the heads up.  are they for the next release or might they work their way into hardy heron at some point?
[02:18] <Flannel> ari_stress: no, wubi allows Ubuntu to live inside an NTFS partition
[02:18] <Leefmc> Flannel: Well i don't have a cd drive (its crapped in the laptop), is there anything wrong with using wubi like that?
[02:18] <TheMusicGuy> nevermind, I figured out how to fix it...I think...
[02:18] <Flannel> the_alamo: they'll work their way into hardy once they're tested
[02:18] <mungallo> ari_stress: no
[02:18] <Leefmc> Flannel: Well, cd drive, and the fact that its an HP OS so im sort of stuck.
[02:18] <Shpook> Jafet: Well, I'm really only interested in running(or creating) an application in the visual background area, behind the icons and such. I was just wondering if there was a program or method out there to reference.
[02:18] <HiTo> Steve-cal bad superbloc, bad magic number
[02:18] <yordan> huh
[02:18] <tj83> flannel.. i still have not found here to post! its very clear how to post anything just the ruels
[02:18] <tj83> rules
[02:18] <yordan> they are telling me to come here
[02:19] <yordan> ..
[02:19] <mungallo> ari_stress: it's an easy way to dual boot windows and ubuntu
[02:19] <Flannel> Leefmc: nothing inheritly wrong with it, no.  You get a little increase disk access time, but other than that, no.
[02:19] <Leefmc> k
[02:19] <the_alamo> Flannel: good to know, thanks again for the info
[02:19] <Flannel> tj83: You want to create your own page, right? or just edit one?
[02:19] <Leefmc> Who knows, maybe the drive issue is just a driver issue.
[02:19] <tomas_> hi guys pliss can u help me i have a problem with battlfield 2 and wine
[02:20] <tj83> my own... I found no related topics using search
[02:20] <Jafet> yordan, 302 redirect infinite recursion error. Sorry. Your request can not be serviced at this time, if ever.
[02:20] <Steve-cal> HiTo: Well if testdisk and fsck didn't help, I'm not experienced with recovering munged partitions, so sorry I can't help more.
[02:20] <HiTo> Steve-cal if i specify a superblock found by testdisk, it tells me busy, fs mounted.... ?
[02:20] <TheMusicGuy> Shpook: I don't know for sure, but I think that the wallpaper and icons are controlled and displayed by the same process
[02:20] <Flannel> Leefmc: There are ways to dual boot properly without a CD, if you're interested.
[02:20] <HiTo> Steve-cal no worries, thanks anyway
[02:20] <Flannel> !install | Leefmc
[02:20] <will01> can anyone reccomend an easy to setup vpn server?
[02:20] <tj83> flannel... my own.... search give no related topics
[02:20] <Jafet> Shpook, you're saying you want the user interface of an application to display and interact with the user in place of the desktop wallpaper?
[02:20] <Leefmc> Question: Also, is there any type of compatibility check i can see to make sure my machine will work? This is a 2yr old laptop, So its not new heh.
[02:20] <Steve-cal> HiTo: Where are you running testdisk from? LiveCD or did you boot into a partition?
[02:21] <steviebuns> leefmc: booting from the livecd is a good way to check
[02:21] <Shpook> Jafet: Exactly.
[02:21] <Leefmc> steviebuns: CD Drive problem rules that out, atm
[02:21] <Flannel> tj83: Alright, just browse to the page you want to create (help.ubuntu.com/community/WhateverYouWantYourPageNameToBe) and there'll be a "this page does not exist, do you want to create one?" link.  Um, I think there are page naming guidelines, let me look for that link.
[02:21] <Shpook> TheMusicGuy: I need to figure out how to hijack that process. :-)
[02:22] <Jafet> Shpook, no suck luck. First, you have to decide which desktop system you want to develop for...
[02:22] <glitsj16> Leefmc: 2 year old hardware is spiffy new in linux terms .. should work just fine
[02:22] <Leefmc> glitsj16: K, thanks
[02:22] <tj83> Ah.... that would be nice if they explained you had to go to a page that didnt exist LOL
[02:22] <mungallo> leefmc: faunOS
[02:22] <Flannel> tj83: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/PageCreation  gives some guidelines (and instructions, and some help on making stuff quicker, re: templates etc)
[02:22] <HiTo> Steve-cal i booted on a partition on another disk
[02:22] <vxd2> %l -x -u mail  what does that do?
[02:22] <mungallo> heh, I got ubuntu working on a pentium pro 266 once.
[02:22] <Flannel> tj83: They say that, read the second to the last paragraph of that page ;)
[02:22] <TheMusicGuy> I know, I'm just saying, I don't think you can replace the wallpaper app without also effectively disabling all desktop icons.
[02:23] <monkeyBox> Has anyone tried banshee 1.0a yet?  It doesn't seem to recognize my ipod
[02:23] <Shpook> Jafet: That's a problem I've been thinking of. It would be a lot of work to develop something that works on even 70% of the desktops out there
[02:23] <steviebuns> leefmc: pendrivelinux.com - bootable usb?
[02:23] <TheMusicGuy> need to go now though...
[02:23] <mungallo> steviebuns: there are a few like that.
[02:23] <Steve-cal> HiTo: OK, just curious that testdisk thinks your partition is mounted. Did you "umount" it just to make sure?
[02:23] <Leefmc> steviebuns: Well what would the goal be? My goal is to install ubunutu
[02:23] <Leefmc> (Not trying to sound rude, inquiring)
[02:23] <mungallo> !wubi
[02:24] <Jafet> Shpook, then, you have to delve into the code for that desktop system to figure out how to inject your code into the desktop. I suggest you can waste your time better by completing twelve blindfolded, pacifist, foodless speedrun ascensions in sucession.
[02:24] <steviebuns> leefmc: nm my stupidity - you need to boot the CD to set up live usb and/or a running linux system.
[02:24] <HiTo> Steve-cal it fsck that tells me is busy, testdisk just got me some informations but I am not sure If i should write the partition type again
[02:24] <mungallo> No
[02:24] <mungallo> leefMC
[02:24] <mungallo> !wubi
[02:25] <mrwizard> is there a mac version of that?
[02:25] <mungallo> download and run wubi, you DO NOT need a CDROM for it.
[02:25] <Leefmc> Question: So then back to ubuntu, would wubi be fine to "test" my system? If it doesn't work, i should be able to revert back to windows correct?
[02:25] <m_newton> I am back!!
[02:25] <Flannel> Leefmc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd might be helpful too
[02:25] <mrwizard> i'm trying to dual boot with a mac powerpc
[02:25] <mrwizard> for xubuntu
[02:25] <Falling-Inferno> Does anyone know were I can get a port scanner. I have recently started dual booting windows and im not so certain about the protection of my windows half.
[02:25] <Flannel> Leefmc: If you install with Wubi, Ubuntu sits on one big file, you remove it with add/remove through windows
[02:25] <HiTo> Steve-cal if i do fdisk -l, i see /dev/sdg1 as 'linux' and if i do fdisk /dev/sdg1 it tell me "warning, flag 0x0000 not valid.... write?"
[02:26] <Leefmc> Flannel: Wow, k
[02:26] <mungallo> !nmap
[02:26] <m_newton> Anyone know if both UDP and TCP are needed for Azuereus??
[02:26] <mungallo> m_newton: take the default.
[02:26] <MrPiracy> how can i completely remove firefox64 and make firefox32 to be the default browser?
[02:26] <Jafet> m_newton, the only way to find out is to turn one off and see if Azureus still works, no?
[02:26] <Steve-cal> HiTo: What happens if you do "sudo umount /dev/sdg1" and then fsck it?
[02:26] <Leefmc> Flannel: With any luck i'll be able to switch to a proper install of ubuntu anyway, i just need to hang onto windows until all flags clear. Namely college. But this cd drive issue doesn't make things any easier.
[02:27] <tj83> flannel you have to build HTML for this to work?
[02:27] <Arrick> !ask
[02:27] <Shpook> Jafet: Haha, I already thought it was a hopeless idea, but you have surely confirmed that. :-)
[02:27] <Falling-Inferno> Does anyone know were I can get a port scanner. I have recently started dual booting windows and im not so certain about the protection of my windows half.
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> so i think I'm officially stuck in the command line for now.  Running 8.04 my computer doesn't recognize the XFS filesystem anymore so it cannot mount /var/lib.  Anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Falling-Inferno grc.com
[02:28] <Flannel> tj83: No, it's just wiki...code or whatever you want to call it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpOnEditing
[02:28] <mungallo> Falling-inferno: you can't portscan a system that is off.
[02:28] <boyam> Falling-Inferno, google nmap
[02:28] <Falling-Inferno> Im on my windows portion right now.
[02:28] <mungallo> !zenmap
[02:28] <HiTo> Steve-cal it tells me it is not mounted, and then the "fsck /dev/sdg1" tell me bas super block magic block, it only tells me busy when i do 'fsck -b 819200 /dev/sdg1é
[02:28] <mungallo> !superblock
[02:28] <Jafet> So you want a port scanner for Windows then?
[02:29] <mrwizard> oh whoops, i should be in #xubuntu
[02:29] <steviebuns> falling-inferno you looking for a windows program?
[02:29] <mrwizard> sorry everyone
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Falling-Inferno grc.com  try the shields-up program
[02:29] <aoupi> tgm4883_laptop: what does sudo modprobe xfs say?
[02:29] <mungallo> ...
[02:29] <Steve-cal> HiTo: are you running those as root (with sudo)?
[02:29] <monkeyBox> Where in ubuntu hardy can I set which program opens up when I plug in my ipod??
[02:29] <monkeyBox> It doesn't seem to be in the "removable devices" area any more
[02:29] <tgm4883_laptop> aoshi, module xfs not found
[02:30] <mungallo> Falling: http://nmapwin.sourceforge.net/
[02:30] <HiTo> Steve-cal yes
[02:31] <KRaZy_WaKa> wow this is the deadest i've seen this channel in 2 weeks
[02:31] <aoupi> tgm4883_laptop: oh :( then I'm out of ideas I hope you find a solution
[02:31] <m_newton> janet <mungallo>  Azuerus works in uploading, i have to download a torrent, which i will do when the need occurs
[02:31] <Steve-cal> mungallo: I think nmap is available thru the repos, and it's GUI interface Zenmap too.
[02:31] <will01> is there a simple vpn server that i can use that has a gui? (im kinda a noob at vpn)
[02:31] <kode> KRaZy_WaKa, that's a good sign, not many people having problems :)
[02:31] <mungallo> Steve: it is, but he's looking for a win32 program not linux
[02:31] <stequbu> will01 : ghamachi
[02:32] <Jafet> Not many people being answered.
[02:32] <mungallo> m_newton, it might be a port forwarding issue
[02:32] <Steve-cal> HiTo: Well that's the extent of my puny knowledge on partition recovery, as I fortunately have never had a need for it. :)
[02:32] <will01> thanks stequbu
[02:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> kode: good call
[02:32] <HiTo> Steve-cal you are lucky, I always have problem with hard drive :)
[02:32] <Leefmc> Question: If my system crashes, and i say screw it and wipe it all, can i be assured that with nothing but a pindrive (how big by the way?), i can install Ubuntu on my system? I have never installed from usb, so i'm not sure if my system is capable of it.. how would i check? (USB2.0 era)
[02:33] <KRaZy_WaKa> advice to anyone looking for Win solutions: Get Ubuntu!
[02:33] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol
[02:33] <mungallo> !install
[02:33] <stequbu> anybody has sucessfully set up VNC at login screen
[02:33] <stequbu> ?
[02:33] <mungallo> Life gives no assurances.
[02:33] <Steve-cal> HiTo: Did you run "badblocks" on it to see if it has a bunch of bad sectors?
[02:33] <stequbu> the standard Remote Desktop works only if user is logged in
[02:33] <HiTo> Steve-cal no
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc Get a usb drive working before you wipe your drive.. test it and use that to wipe and reinstall
[02:33] <mungallo> good advice ^
[02:34] <Leefmc> K
[02:34] <Steve-cal> HiTo: Give it a whirl and see the shape of your HD...
[02:34] <mungallo> Hito: what's the problem?
[02:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> hey Jack Sparrow
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello
[02:35] <HiTo> mungallo messed up with an ext2 partitions, was added accidentaly to a zpool done in vmware, but only a few gigs were transfered on the pool, so I try to find a way to recover the data
[02:35] <Steve-cal> HiTo: if badblocks finds a bunch of bad sectors, you should seriously consider sending your HD to the great silicon graveyard in the sky and buy a new one. How old is your HD?
[02:35] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Would testing it be as simple as booting with it in? In otherwords, do i follow the normall "install ubuntu with a usb stick" tutorial, and stop at the install stage to see if it works? If it does, i can then turn around and normal windows boot then wubi Ubuntu? Sound sane?
[02:35] <Jafet> When Ubuntu starts with the splash screen, is X (xorg/xserver) started at any point during that loading process, or only after that?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc Yes, up to the point of wubi as I wont use or recommend it
[02:35] <mungallo> Leefmc: yes
[02:35] <HiTo> Steve-cal i don't think it has something to do with bad blocks, it has only one month, it is a new drive
[02:36] <Arrick> Flannel whats the cmd again to create the ext3 filesystem? isnt it mkfs ext3?
[02:36] <HiTo> the problem is that ZFS destroyed the ext2 fs on the drive i think
[02:36] <will01> stequbu, im following the readme, and i cant seem to get the program to start
[02:36] <mungallo> mkfs.ext3
[02:36] <Steve-cal> HiTo: Oh I see. How did the partitions get corrupted then? What happened?
[02:36] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: I must inquire; why not?
[02:36] <Flannel> Arrick: I've just always used parted.   but yeah, mkfs.ext3 I believe
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> HiTo You would need to find a channel where people know zfs
[02:36] <mungallo> or sudo gparted
[02:37] <mungallo> HiTo: were you running solaris as an image?
[02:37] <HiTo> Steve-cal in fact... drive was sdg1, and drives from sda to sdf were used in vmware, and on a reboot the letter changed... so when i created the pool i erased the backup
[02:37] <HiTo> mungallo no FreeBSD 7
[02:37] <cvd-pr> is this is the command to take a screenshot?  import pic.png  ?
[02:37] <mungallo> Ah
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc I prefer a true partition for my ubuntu and not a simulated/ partition in a file on ntfs..  read the wubi faq and be sure you understand the difference in the installations
[02:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> where do the packages save to when you install new progz?  and would i be able to copy them to my secondary hard drive to reinstall them when i reboot with my new primary hard drive?
[02:37] <Arrick> I would, but you know me Flannel, no gui
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> mungallo Would that be gksudo gparted...?
[02:38] <Flannel> Arrick: parted, like I said.
[02:38] <mungallo> That works too
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:38] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Yea, The reason i'm choosing wubi for now is because i may need to hop back to my current win install. Not being able to reinstall windows, that is
[02:38] <mungallo> assuming it's installed in which case: sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[02:38] <mungallo> gksudo if you're in gnome
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc I dual boot with no problems
[02:38] <mungallo> !sudo
[02:39] <stequbu> will01: I can't help you more. Except that there is a post on some forum maybe on hamachi.cc ? where everything is written including the command line
[02:39] <mungallo> !su
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mungallo gksudo for gnome gui apps kdesu for kde gui apps
[02:39] <eyemean> hi there everyone, anyone know how i can extract .001 extension files
[02:39] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Yea but doesn't creating partitions on an existing system cause problems? (Specially considering the size of my laptop hd)
[02:39] <fde> !root | mungallo
[02:39] <mungallo> Yes... I am quite aware of that.
[02:39] <mungallo> All of that.
[02:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> Jack_Sparrow: would i be able to use them to reinstall the progz when i reinstall on my new primary HDD?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc Resizing partitions is not a big deal, the feature is built into the ubuntu installer
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa yes
[02:40] <tj83> flannel.... how do i get it to show lines, its taking multiple lines and making then one long string.
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[02:40] <m_newton> janet <mungallo>  Wait, i just configured port forwarding correctly with azuereus and i semi works.. It is slow at uploading, but than againg that depends on speed of connection and how many ppl want it. I cant bench mark properly
[02:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> Jack_Sparrow: thanx i decided against a direct disc copy, i prefer to reboot fresh, always did with windows and i think i will do the same with ubuntu
[02:40] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: So the ubuntu installer can handle the creation of partitions, while leaving my existing win install intact?
[02:40] <mungallo> mnewton: it takes time
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc yes.. iut is the easiest way .. in my opinion
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> it
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[02:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> Jack_Sparrow: same machine just upgrading primary HDD from 20 GB to 40 GB
[02:41] <Steve-cal> m_newton: You might want to try going to some place like "canyouseeme.org" and testing to make sure your port is truly open.
[02:42] <mungallo> !gparted
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa See also dd.. let me find you a link
[02:42] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: I think i'll try that then, the only reason i was going to use wubi was because i did not have a working cd drive, and needed my existing windows install intact
[02:42] <hisingh1> exit
[02:42] <alvin> Hello
[02:42] <Leefmc> Thank you all :)
[02:42] <Flannel> tj83: leave a blank line in between paragraphs, and use [[BR]] to insert a carriage return.  But we're getting offtopic, You mind taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic? or even #ubuntu-doc, either of those would be more appropriate than here.
[02:42] <Leefmc> I'll probably have a few questions as i build my ubunutu usb stick
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[02:42] <homeslice> hey anyone install the latest fglrx driver 8.5 and if so did they noticed flash running really slow?
[02:42] <mungallo> !dd
[02:42] <alvin> Anyone here try getting Dual Monitors to work with a Matrox card?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc You could also get gparted livecd and resize and add partitions that way
[02:43] <mungallo> Jack, he can't
[02:43] <KRaZy_WaKa> oh sweet, even better thanx Jack, i can get APTonCD from Synaptic? not totallt comfortable with terminal yet
[02:43] <mungallo> CDROM is borked
[02:43] <Leefmc> No CD Drive
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mungallo true
[02:43] <Flannel> Leefmc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
[02:43] <jmworx> I just upgraded to 8.04 and it broke microphone capture for me. Using arecord, all I get is a hum instead of my voice. This used to work with 7.10. Any idea?
[02:43] <Catslacks> Can anyone help me get my wireless started? I finally got the internet to work at all on Ubuntu.
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa yes aptoncd
[02:44] <Leefmc> I've never even had experience with USB Boots, are there anything special required by the motherboard/bios? Will a 2yr old laptop most likely be able to handle USB Installing?
[02:44] <Jafet> Well, the computer has to be able to boot from a USB device... that's pretty much it.
[02:44] <mungallo> leefmc: likely, mine does, check bios under hdd
 yes it is open, but only on TCP... may result in slower uploads, i think, cant really benchmark
[02:44] <amenado> Leefmc-> thats fairly recent, so it should support usb booting
[02:44] <Steve-cal> jmworx: Have you checked your sound configuration carefully for volume levels and what device is set for input?
[02:44] <mungallo> make sure the disk is plugged in when you reboot
[02:44] <Leefmc> Flannel: I know hehe, were just discussing a few pro's con's. I'll be going through that now :)
[02:44] <Jafet> Also, you would have to prioritize USB boot with the BIOS.
[02:45] <alvin> Anyone here using a Matrox video card?
[02:45] <Arrick> !lamp
[02:45] <mirta> Well, I cant get to work a little app that is not supposed to get runned as 16bits with Wine... anynoe has an idea?
[02:45] <jmworx> Steve-cal: Yes
[02:45] <amenado> is evga fx5200 video card okay on ubuntu 7.10?  someone is selling it for 20bux...
[02:46] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: I finally got an ethernet connection!!
[02:46] <mungallo> mirta: you have to change the compatability
[02:46] <mungallo> mirta: winecfg
[02:46] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: Incredible--how did you do it?
[02:46] <amenado> !hardware
[02:46] <mirta> mungallo, tried that, it tells me still that it cannot load winedos
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> mirta /join #Winehq
[02:46] <m_newton> What ports need to be open for VNC? How exactilly should i connect a linux to a vista through VNC (if it is possible + or - on same network)??
[02:46] <KRaZy_WaKa> Thanx again Jack_Sparrow... how do i give you an officaly thank you to bring up your thanx count lol
[02:47] <mungallo> I agree with Jack on this one mirta
[02:47] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: I had onboard LAN disabled in my BIOS. I can't keep it this way, but it should help me until I get wireless working (if ever)
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa No big deal...  but thak you anyhow
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[02:47] <mirta> Thanks guys...
[02:48] <alvin> Catslacks: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[02:48] <mungallo> sorry mirta: wine specific issue. check their forums and irc channels
[02:48] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: You mean on-board LAN was disabled and now you enabled it? Or vice-versa?
[02:48] <alvin> Anyone here using a Matrox video card?
[02:48] <achandrashekar> hello..I'm having an issue with PXE booting systems. The clients successfully boot up, hit the mirror, recieve packages...but get stuck at 83% when installing linux-generic...
[02:48] <jmworx> Steve-cal: Ah, turns out the "wiring" in the driver is wrong. The front mic is wired to "Mic" and the "Front Mic" entry gives me nothing (probably wired to the back)
[02:48] <achandrashekar> can some one help with that??
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[02:48] <Leefmc> Question: Any comments with UNetbootin?
[02:48] <Steve-cal> jmworx: So it's working OK for you now?
[02:48] <amenado> achandrashekar-> what does the log says? if you can see the log at all?
[02:49] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: So now that I have at least SOME internet connection do you have any ideas for the wireless?
[02:49] <Arrick> Someone needs to edit the ubuntu.com page, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ebox.html because this line is incorrect, there is no such animal. "If you want to install all the available modules, the ebox-all meta package will install all the modules."
[02:49] <jmworx> Steve-cal: Yup (if I work around it), but somehow this is a regression compared to Gusty
[02:49] <m_newton> any good FTP sofware out there /tutorials etc..
[02:49] <achandrashekar> amendo: i guess that id have  to alt-f4 to get where it is.. one sec.
[02:49] <brocebeats> how do you do a global search with CLI
[02:49] <amenado> brocebeats-> man find
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !ftp
[02:49] <Steve-cal> jmworx: Yes unfortunately sometimes things break.
[02:49] <brocebeats> i did man find
[02:49] <mungallo> !vsftpd
[02:49] <brocebeats> I asked b/c i didnt find anything useful
[02:50] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: So does "sudo lshw -C network" show both your ethernet card and wireless card?
[02:50] <mungallo> lol ubottu knows none of my daemons.
[02:50] <achandrashekar> amendo: i guess its still going..on the linux-restricted-modules part now...
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !info vsftpd
[02:50] <achandrashekar> amendo: seems awful slow though...
[02:50] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: YES!
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> mungallo I know your daemons
[02:50] <mungallo> there we are, thank you Jack
[02:50] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: Great! and what is your wireless chipset again?
[02:51] <amenado> brocebeats-> you can google for some additional help
[02:51] <mungallo> and thank the FSM.
[02:51] <mungallo> lol
[02:51] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: It's an D-Link DWA-542
[02:51] <steviebuns> brocebeats: locate [filename]
[02:51] <Madara> anyone know a good network manager application ?
[02:51] <m_newton> What ports need to be open for VNC? How exactilly should i connect a linux to a vista through VNC (if it is possible + or - on same network)??
[02:51] <brocebeats> locate is redhat
[02:51] <amenado> achandrashekar-> be patient, it will pay off
[02:51] <will> In kubuntu when you pop in a disk there is a dialog box that asks you what you want to do like in vista.  Does anyone know how to enable this in ubuntu hardy
[02:51] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: Yes, that's the card, but the chipset... Can you pastebin the lshw output please?
[02:52] <mungallo> !slocate
[02:52] <m_newton> Also, any good FTP sofware out there /tutorials etc..
[02:52] <mungallo> !info slocate
[02:52] <amenado> brocebeats-> nope, its also available in ubuntu
[02:52] <achandrashekar> amenado: is that correct that it'd be that slow trying to receive packages??its a base install.
[02:52] <brocebeats> ah cool
[02:52] <brocebeats> thanks
[02:52] <brocebeats> i thought find was the debian locate
[02:52] <mungallo> no, find is SYSv
[02:52] <mungallo> V
[02:52] <amenado> achandrashekar-> network could be slow, or the other end server is very busy
[02:53] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: http://pastebin.com/d7ddf33e7
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> mungallo !info if you know the actual name..  !find if you know partial name
[02:53] <astro76> brocebeats: ubuntu uses mlocate by default now, but you can just call it with locate
[02:53] <Madara> !find WICD
[02:54] <glitsj16> goodnite all  *apt-get install bed*
[02:54] <mungallo> Thanks Jack, not used to irc, and certainly not to this channel.
[02:54] <achandrashekar> amenado: i see...that is why i suppose running a local mirror is a smart idea.
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> mungallo Glad to help.. and thank you for helping others
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !wicd
[02:54] <Leefmc> Question: Which ubuntu download would be best for UNetbootin? http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ (Note, i'll be using a torrent.. i assume they're all torrent-ready though)
[02:54] <adam7> Madara: wicd isn't in the repos, but you can get it at http://wicd.net
[02:54] <achandrashekar> amenado: i have heard that it does take a a day or so to get a full mirror operational though
[02:54] <mungallo> wicd is very nice.
[02:54] <Madara> adam7 thanks
[02:55] <amenado> achandrashekar-> possibly, dont know..
[02:55] <nomasteryoda> wicd should be in the repos
[02:55] <Madara> could have another name ?
[02:55] <mungallo> no, wicd is not in the repos.
[02:55] <mungallo> it's also still unstable-ish I think
[02:56] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: Oh, btw, I tried to install the madwifi driver, and I think everything went okay, but.. no go? I'm not sure.
[02:56] <Scunizi> wifi radar is in the repos though
[02:56] <Leefmc> Anyone?
[02:56] <Scunizi> Madara: ^__^
[02:56] <nomasteryoda> true... but wicd is just about the best there is
[02:56] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: OK it looks like you've got a "AR5416" chipset from what I can tell. How did you try and install the madwifi driver?
[02:57] <seme> hi gents.... can anyone help me get samba working with likewise open... I can ssh in and do a kinit but for some reason samba doesn't work
[02:57] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: I downloaded it and followed the FirstTimeHowTo Guide.
[02:57] <seme> I see errors such as could not create home directory and cannot contact daemon and failed to get GP info
[02:57] <seme> not sure whats going on.... I can't find anything in google about this
[02:57] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: Can you give me the URL so I can see what you did?
[02:58] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[02:58] <mungallo> what does "tail /var/log/messages"
[02:58] <mungallo> say?
[02:59] <seme> says that the user is not known and then it says return 7 for user "myuser"
[02:59] <mungallo> you might want to google that error code.
[02:59] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: Oh, yeah, I don't know if there is a really quick answer for this or not, but I'm on www.mythos.com and there is a falling leaves flash animation, but it's supposed to be transparent. I just see leaves and a pink block.
[03:00]  * Scunizi is away: 
[03:00]  * Scunizi is away: 
[03:00] <adam7> !away > Scunizi
[03:00] <Scunizi> sorry.. away doesn't work for me.. didn't mean to have any messages.
[03:01] <dhamma> ktorrent borked my audio (i use gnome)...i've tried rebooting and followed the audio troubleshooting guide...no luck...HELP
[03:01] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: So did it "make" and "make install" OK with no errors? And did you do the modprobe ath_pci business? How far did you get?
[03:02] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: Yes, I didn't find any errors with make and make install. I did the modprobe ath_pci and that's as far as I got
[03:02] <arfarf> quick! i need help! i killed pulseaudio, and now mplayer complains artsd isn't running, tryied to manually start artsd, but says resorce isn't available gf wants to watch her movie and she's pissed
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> arfarf Have you tried rebooting
[03:03] <arfarf> i shouldn't have to?
[03:03] <arfarf> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[03:03] <mungallo> alsaconf
[03:03] <m_newton> Hey, How do i intstall new fonts for LInux (openoffice)??
[03:03] <mungallo> whoops, nm
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> arfarf You should not need to... but.... it might be the quick way out
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !fonts
[03:04] <Dgro> Hi
[03:04] <TeslaTony> I've been having a slight problem with sound hiccuping during playback, like the system is lagging, but I'm not doing anything that would cause that (I think...), and have plenty of power on this machine to spare. Any idea what's going on or how to fix it?
[03:04] <arfarf> system is kinda in the middle of doing something.
[03:04] <arfarf> 3 hours into it, 20 mins left.
[03:04] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: OK if you do "lsmod" does it show that ath_pci module? And what do you get with iwconfig? (Please pastebin)
[03:05] <arfarf> didn't want to restart..
[03:05] <dhamma> TeslaTony: pulseaudio sucks...that's the problem
[03:05] <arfarf> hmm.
[03:05] <Scunizi> adam7: found out that /away only works if there is a message in the away line of xchat even if it is tagged not to display the away message..
[03:05] <Dgro> I haven't figured out plug-ins and downloads...Ubuntu Dapper Dan OS
[03:05] <dhamma> TeslaTony: killall pulseaudio
[03:05] <mungallo> try /usr/bin/pulseaudio
[03:05] <Flannel> Dgro: plugins for what?
[03:05] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: http://pastebin.com/dd0f3d01
[03:06] <adam7> Scunizi: you can also hit alt+a to set yourself away
[03:06] <Arrick> uhmm, I need a solution to stop upward traversal when using vsftpd on the 8.04 server install... I followed the config recommendations here, and when users log in, they get to go to / https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[03:06] <Steve-cal> TeslaTony: Can you use ALSA or do you need the special functionality of pulseaudio?
[03:06] <anakron> llegue tarde?
[03:07] <Dgro> Flannel: plugins for chats and downloads on most URLs
[03:07] <Scunizi> adam7: but it won't work if the away message line in settings is blank... been struggling with this for weeks.. sn9 just gave me the answer in #ubuntu-california
[03:07] <anakron> Hola ubunteros!
[03:07] <TeslaTony> Steve-cal: I should be able to use ALSA for everything. I may have called this down on myself from trying to get Flash sound working right
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !es | anakron
[03:07] <arfarf> ah, alsa force-reload worked. killed nearly everything though.
[03:07] <seme> nothing
[03:07] <seme> damn
[03:07] <seme> still can't get samba working properly
[03:08] <Flannel> Dgro: Have you thought about upgrading to Hardy?  I think you need to ctrl-click on URLs
[03:08] <purpleposeidon> help? apache isn't starting
[03:08] <Nutzebahn> Hi.
[03:08] <arfarf> q
[03:08] <ubuntu> hola alguien habla español
[03:08] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: When you installed madwifi with "make install" did you do it as root? (i.e. "sudo make install"?)
[03:08] <RoAkSoAx> ubuntu, por favor, para ayuda en español entra a #ubuntu-es
[03:08] <ubuntu> colombia
[03:08] <ubuntu> hay gente por aki
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[03:08] <ubuntu> saludos
[03:08] <Dgro> Flannel: No,but I get no public keys or no place for plug-ins
[03:09] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: I think I did it without sudo at first and then it yelled at me so I did it with sudo
[03:09] <purpleposeidon> !ubottu
[03:09] <Ap4ch3> purpleposeidon, try using apache2ctl -configtest to find out why .... or look in the error logs
[03:09] <Nutzebahn> I tried to run apmd in the terminal and it said: "No APM support in kernel".
[03:09] <Nutzebahn> Help?
[03:10] <purpleposeidon> ubottu: Well, why don't you just be ubotu for the time being, hmm?
[03:10] <m_newton> u bot tu? YES i bot tu
[03:10] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: OK do the "sudo modprobe ath_pci" again and if it doesn't error, do "lsmod | grep ath" and see if it returns that module.
[03:10] <TeslaTony> Oh yes. Mess with the bot 'til it explodes
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Me a bot you a bot we are all a bot together... Ok.. I am getting punchy
[03:10] <purpleposeidon> Ap4ch3: Ah, yes... I guess you would know about apache. ;)
[03:11] <adam7> Scunizi: ok, just uncheck the announce away box that's right under the away message box :)
[03:11] <Flannel> Dgro: I'm not sure what plug-ins you're talking about, to be honest.
[03:11] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: http://pastebin.com/d296986ab
[03:11] <mungallo> /etc/init.d/apache2 start?
[03:11] <Scunizi> adam7: already did.. :)
[03:11] <adam7> Scunizi: aweomse :)
[03:11] <ibottu> YES now i am i bot tu joining u bot tu ?
[03:11] <Nutzebahn> I tried to run apmd in the terminal and it said: "No APM support in kernel". Help?
[03:11] <matthew> has anyone here gotten SDL to work with anjuta that is willing to walk me through the process? My main problem seems to be that all my tutorials are telling me to go to a setting menu that I DON'T HAVE >.<
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ibottu Dont make me bot-slap you
[03:12] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: Great, now "iwconfig"
[03:12] <mungallo> Nutzebahn, if it isn't built into the kernel, you'll have to rebuild the kernel.
[03:12] <|Skippy|> hey folks, are there any... let's call them semiautomatic tools for configuring xorg?  my machine displays just fine at its native resolution but my actual hardware monitor and card don't seem to be detected so i can't switch resolutions.  I did rerun the redetect step metioned in the default xorg.conf
[03:12] <purpleposeidon> poseidon@compy:/etc/init.d$ sudo apache2ctl -configtest \n Syntax error on line 1 of -c/-C directives: \n Invalid command 'onfigtest', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[03:12] <|Skippy|> intel 82845G on inspiron 1100
[03:12] <m_newton> k, bak 2 normal
[03:12] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: "No wireless extensions"
[03:12] <Nutzebahn> mungallo: How do I do that?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !res | |Skippy|
[03:12] <purpleposeidon> oh, wait, nvm
[03:12] <m_newton> how do i configure a font after i get it??
[03:12] <Dgro> Flannel: most chatrooms and downloads...such as www.musemuses require a plugin for chatrooms
[03:13] <mungallo> though /etc/init.d/apmd restart works fine with me and avanilla 8.04 install
[03:13] <purpleposeidon> Ap4ch3: It says that the syntax is okay. in /var/log/apache2/error.log I see...
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Nutzebahn THe grub line didnt have apm-off or anything did it
[03:13] <Nutzebahn> Jack_Sparrow: How do I check that?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !fonts
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Nutzebahn /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:13] <amenado> is evga fx5200 video card okay on ubuntu 7.10? any insights?
[03:13] <Flannel> Dgro: Oh, this is all inside firefox?
[03:13] <mungallo> cat !$
[03:14] <mungallo> doh.
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado Kinda low end, but it will work..
[03:14] <purpleposeidon> Ap4ch3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15700/
[03:14] <Dgro> Flannel: yea firefox browser
[03:14] <fde> 9
[03:14] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> oh okay, i have a low end kind of pc anyways
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado should be fine but not high end effects and such
[03:15] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: That's not good... hang on.
[03:15] <Flannel> Dgro: Um, I'm not really sure.  It sounds like an issue with the website itself, if their code doesn't pass security checks
[03:15] <Ap4ch3> well hmm purpleposeidon, LibClamAV Error: cli_loaddbdir(): Can't open directory /var/lib/clamav
[03:15] <|Skippy|> Jack_Sparrow: thanks.  I guess i was hoping for something like the xorgconfig tool (which I see isn't really available via apt-get) but that page should help.  thanks :)
[03:15] <purpleposeidon> yeah..
[03:15] <Ap4ch3> permissions on this directory? does it exist?
[03:15] <Dgro> Flannel: I can't get the Java Plugin or sun for that matter
[03:16] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> thanks for the insights..someone is selling it for 20 bux..seems good for the price
[03:16] <will01> whats the best way to set up a file server for a vpn?
[03:16] <purpleposeidon> I don't think I even have clamav installed
[03:16] <Nutzebahn> mungallo: I typed what you said, what do I do next?
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado I saw a much better one for 28 on tiger...
[03:16] <Flannel> Dgro: ah, java.  You really should think about upgrading to Hardy, Java has gotten much better over the years.  You'd need to enable backports to get the official java
[03:16] <Flannel> !java | Dgro
[03:16] <Ap4ch3> there are clamav directives in the apache confs? ..comment them out
[03:16] <Nutzebahn> Jack_Sparrow: I don't see apm-off in menu.lst. Help?
[03:17] <purpleposeidon> :/
[03:17] <purpleposeidon> Hmmm
[03:17] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> oh, i didnt know, video cards are that cheap now..ill look there at tiger
[03:17] <mungallo> the /etc/inid.d/apmd restart?
[03:17] <Nutzebahn> mungallo: Yes. Help?
[03:17] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: Do "wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta" and does that return an error?
[03:17] <mungallo> did it give you an error?
[03:17] <will01> whats the easiest way to set up a file server on gusty
[03:17] <will01> *hardy
[03:17] <funkster1> hi there all
[03:17] <Nutzebahn> mungallo: No.
[03:18] <Dgro> Flannel: ok upgrade, excluse the couplet
[03:18] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device
[03:18] <Steve-cal> !hi | funkster1
[03:18] <purpleposeidon> I think I found the problem... php5-clamavlib, let's see what happens when I remove it
[03:18] <funkster1> thanks guys ;)
[03:18] <Flannel> Dgro: you don't need to upgrade to get java of course.
[03:18] <funkster1> it's not my first time coming in, but it's seldom
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !Realtek   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[03:19] <Dgro> Flannel, my repositories don't stick...
[03:19] <mungallo> not sure then. it should be running then.
[03:19] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: First do "wlanconfig ath0 destroy" and then do that previous command I gave, make sure you copy/paste exactly....
[03:19] <funkster1> having a hardware problem with my soundcard, M-Audio Delta 1010LT, not seen/recognised by Hardy Studio
[03:19] <Nutzebahn> mungallo: It still says "No APM support in kernel".
[03:19] <Nutzebahn> Help?
[03:20] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: It says no such device for both commands
[03:20] <mungallo> I'm not entirely certain then.
[03:20] <mungallo> Check the forums and google.
[03:20] <Nikyo> Hi, Using Ubuntu 8.04 trying to connect to Windows XP Home share. For some reason I can not. no internal firewall is on,  how can I connect, Please.
[03:20] <purpleposeidon> There we go! Removing libclamav fixed it. I think it was auto-installed, too, hmmm...
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> funkster1 HArdy Studio ?
[03:20] <funkster1> yep
[03:20] <funkster1> Ubuntu studio hardy heron
[03:21] <funkster1> or 8.04 if you want :D
[03:21] <huggybeers> :http://www.ubuntu.com
[03:21] <gleyve> How do I install a theme?
[03:21] <mzuverink> On one of my 64 bit machines, an AMD it upgraded to firefox 3, but in the intel core duo it upgraded to RC 1, whats the deal with that, it their different packages for the Intel 64 than the AMD 64?
[03:21] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: OK, then do "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules madwifi-tools"
[03:22] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: Done
[03:22] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: They installed OK?
[03:22] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: I didn't see any errors.
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> gleyve for the most part.. drag and drop the tar onto the open theme manager
[03:22] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: OK, then "wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta" again...
[03:23] <funkster1> jack_sparrow: are you also on the reaper boards sometimes?
[03:23] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: Same
[03:23] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: And "iwconfig"?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> funkster1 Nope
[03:23] <Nutzebahn> :'(
[03:23] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: "No wireless connections"
[03:23] <funkster1> no problem
[03:23] <rushfan_> Hello. Im trying to mount a JFS partition with the latest LiveCd, but I'm getting the  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3 crap. My ext2 partition mounts fine.
[03:24] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: "Extensions"
[03:24] <PastorBones> !webmin
[03:24] <Dgro> BRB
[03:24] <rushfan_> Anyone here know why it doesn't seem to like JFS?
[03:24] <Nikyo> Using Ubuntu 8.04, trying to connect to Windows XP Home share. For some reason I can not. no internal firewall is on,  how can I connect, Please.
[03:24] <funkster1> any takers on a snd-ice1712 problem?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba
[03:25] <mobiGeek> morning folks
[03:25] <scape> hi have a couple of questions on filesystems, if someone could help me out it would be very appreciated
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> funkster1 try /join #alsa
[03:25] <gleyve> Jack_Sparrow: it gives me an error.."doesn't seem to be a theme"
[03:25] <mobiGeek> scape: shoot
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gleyve It would know
[03:25] <funkster1> jack_sparrow: will do
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[03:26] <scape> i just installed ubuntu  partitions were / ext3 swap and /home xfs
[03:26] <mobiGeek> I'm looking for advice:  I want to run a CMS on my home machine.  Simple stuff: good gallery, blog w/ comments, etc... Want something flexible yet mostly easy to admin.  recommendations?
[03:26] <scape> i am trying to adjust the /home for more space for /
[03:27] <KRaZy_WaKa> can i convert my NTFS volume without compromising the data? or haveing to back it up first?
[03:27] <scape> but gparted is not letting me do anything to the xfs
[03:27] <Nutzebahn> I really need apm...
[03:27] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: I don't know at this point, and I'm going to have to call it a night here at this point. :) Ask again and maybe someone else can help you get madwifi going--be sure to let them know your chipset and what you've done so far. Good luck with it. :)
[03:27] <Nutzebahn> I would like to be able to have it turn off my computer drives when they are idle.
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Nutzebahn is it turned on in your bios
[03:27] <Catslacks> Steve-cal: Thanks, anyways!
[03:28] <tester> how do i copy all recursive files in one directory to another? example cp -R *.mp3 /tmp  Doesnt work
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa Nope.. I would not risk it
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> tester maybe small r
[03:28] <mobiGeek> tester: use TAR:    tar cf . | ( cd /the/other/dir && tar xf - )
[03:29] <Steve-cal> Catslacks: No problem, I'm sure you'll get it working with enough perseverance... :)
[03:29] <burningmunk> Hi, does anyone know about ATA errors extensiveky
[03:29] <tester> cp: cannot stat `*.mp3': No such file or directory
[03:29] <mobiGeek> tester: oops:    tar cf - . | (cd /the/other/dir && tar xf - )
[03:29] <burningmunk> I'm having issues getting my Ubuntu install to work properly
[03:29] <scape> any specific reason gparted is not letting me do any changed to the xfs partition
[03:29] <KRaZy_WaKa> Jack_Sparrow: didn't figure that would be a good idea, just figured i would ask, it's all good ubuntu loves user friendliness, unlike Winblows
[03:29] <tester> mobiGeek, i need cp not tar
[03:29] <mobiGeek> tester: why?
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> tester tar cpf- -C/path/sourcefile .|tar xpf- -C/path/destination
[03:30] <mobiGeek> tester: are you trying to copy JUST the *.mp3 files or the entire directory tree?
[03:30] <tester> mobiGeek, to copy not zip up or tar and then untar later
[03:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> couldnt access some files on my NTFS volume when i changed out my primary drives and installed windoze temporarily
[03:30] <burningmunk> I got a similar error from Ubuntu, but this is what I got after my Debian install attempt
[03:30] <seme> whats even odder is that I can connect to the samba share from some windows boxes but not others
[03:30] <tester> just the mp3 files
[03:30] <burningmunk> ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xa1)
[03:30] <burningmunk> followed by
[03:31] <tester> theres thousands buried in directories
[03:31] <mobiGeek> tester: the command I used doesn't create a tar file....it uses tar to copy the files and in so doing preserves timestamps, permissions, symlinks, etc....
[03:31] <seme> anyone know what could cause this kind of problem with samba and likewise-open
[03:31] <burningmunk> ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY(I/O error, err_mask=0x4)
[03:31] <Nutzebahn> Could anyone tell me how to have my computer turn off my drives when they are idle?
[03:31] <KRaZy_WaKa> so screw windoze... guess i'm gonna have to go through the lengthy process of copying my NTFS drive to another drive to get rid of the last rermnants of M$ crap
[03:31] <burningmunk> thats after the unusally long spash screens for both ubuntu and debian installs
[03:31] <mobiGeek> tester: and with tar you have FAR more control over what gets copied
[03:31] <tester> mobiGeek, correct but doesnt the DOT mean everything
[03:31] <tester> should i do tar cf - .mp3
[03:32] <tester> should i do tar cf - *.mp3
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> burningmunk remove quiet and splash from the command line
[03:32] <mobiGeek> tester: yes, i didn't get that requirement from you until just now.
[03:32] <mobiGeek> tester: just a sec.
[03:32] <RoAkSoAx> a
[03:32] <burningmunk> how so? i cant even get into ubuntu
[03:32] <burningmunk> i get that error on repeat, its longer in ubuntu
[03:32] <burningmunk> i tried debian figuring my ubuntu install was borked
[03:32] <mzuverink> firefox
[03:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> burningmunk try booting into recovery ubuntu?
[03:32] <tester> I tried your TAR and get .... cp: cannot stat `*.mp3': No such file or directory
[03:33] <burningmunk> i have not
[03:33] <tester> i mean tar cannot stat
[03:33] <burningmunk> i must reinstall ubuntu entirely
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> burningmunk sounds more like a borked drive.. boot live.. hit F6 edit the command line. so yo can see the errors and problems
[03:33] <burningmunk> right
[03:33] <burningmunk> i ran chkdsk on both of my disks in windows
[03:33] <burningmunk> and i get no errors
[03:33] <mzuverink> opps sorry, which one are they distributing on the reposes now rc1 or 3.0?
[03:33] <burningmunk> in b4 winblows, make due
[03:33] <burningmunk> with what i got
[03:34] <tritium> !enter | burningmunk (thanks!)
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | burningmunk
[03:34] <astro76> mzuverink: 3.0b5
[03:34] <mobiGeek> tester: what is the *exact* command you typed?
[03:35] <tester> tar cf - *.mp3 | (cd /mnt/40gig/ && tar xf - )
[03:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol i like borked, is that IRC etiquette slang or regional slang?
[03:35] <mzuverink> astro76, ok thank you
[03:35] <tester> mobiGeek, im currently in the mp3 area
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa No idea, quite a common expression...
[03:36] <KRaZy_WaKa> my apologies for off-topic, but borked reminds me of the swedish chef from the muppets
[03:36] <steingal> Anyone can help me install a Atheros Wireless LAN on my fresh installed Ubuntu! ??
[03:36] <steingal> been googling my ass off
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> steingal Play nice and watch the language
[03:37] <anirudh0> Jack_Sparrow: a few factoids about common wireless card issues might help
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Like that
[03:37] <steingal> Sorry mate
[03:37] <burningmunk> Ok, I'm off to reinstall ubuntu and see what i can accomplish
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !atheros
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[03:37] <Nutzebahn> Could anyone tell me how to have my computer turn off my drives when they are idle?
[03:37] <anirudh0> Jack_Sparrow: how do i get a list of all ubottu factoids without flooding?
[03:38] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: power options
[03:38] <anirudh0> anirudh0: under sys->admin->power options
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 You can /msg ubottu blah...   or we have a page, but I dont have it handy
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !msgthebot
[03:38] <tj83> Jack_Sparrow... I too would like that list.
[03:39] <Nutzebahn> anirudh0: Power Management?
[03:39] <anirudh0> anyone seeing a huge mem consumption with the new ff?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> When I think of it.. I will try and get it out to people
[03:39] <anirudh0> took 69% on my comp with a flash video running
[03:39] <burningmunk> One last note before I leave. When I insert my Ubuntu disk, I cannot use the option "Install Ubuntu to Hard Disk". I get that ATA error I mentioned. I must go into the Live CD and use the installer contained in there to install Ubuntu. Is this unusual? Could it be that I have to change my boot order to my SATA drive since my ATA may be going? (I have one of each, ATA being about 3 years older).
[03:40] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: sorry..in sys->prefs->power management
[03:40] <Nutzebahn> anirudh0: Power Management? Power management only gives me two options.
[03:40] <Nith> dpkg --reconfigure -a takes a long time -.-
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> burningmunk mixing ata and sata have caused some issues
[03:40] <Nutzebahn> anirudh0: It doesn't say anything about drives.
[03:40] <tritium> Nith: depending on the state of thigns
[03:40] <tritium> things, even
[03:40] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: laptop or desktop?
[03:41] <Nith> tritium: failed upgrade from feisty to hardy (through gutsy)
[03:41] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: suspend=hard disks off and mem on
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium A little southern drawl on that..
[03:41] <Nith> apt broken, hal wont load... you know, the usual
[03:41] <tritium> Nith: ouch
[03:41] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: yeah ;)
[03:41] <burningmunk> @JAck Sparrow: Do you know anything about drive cloning then? Maybe eliminate my ATA drive entirely. I have a 120GB ATA and a 320GB SATA drive. If I could ghost my 120 onto my 320, and then remove the 120GB ATA drive from my PC, would that possibly help?
[03:41] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: found it?
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> burningmunk see also dd
[03:42] <burningmunk> Thank you.
[03:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> burningmunk: you could get a conversion cable too
[03:42] <seagan> can anyone give me a hint on how to set up a user for nessusd? seems it doesnt use your username for the os
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> burningmunk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[03:42] <burningmunk> Krazy_Waka: On average what do those cost?
[03:43] <Nith> arg, scrollkeeper segfaulted while dpkg reconfiguring -.-
[03:43] <Nutzebahn> anirudh0: I don't want to do that because the sound card driver will stop working. Help?
[03:43] <KRaZy_WaKa> burningmunk: dunno if that makes ATA read as SATA, but it could be worth a shot to not have to transfer
[03:43] <tester> mobiGeek, any luck?
[03:43] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: :)...dunno then
[03:43] <burningmunk> Thank you for the idea Krazy and Jack, you've been very helpful. If I have anymore questions I'll certainly be back.
[03:43] <Nutzebahn> :'(
[03:43] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: you cant have everything working and still reduce power consumption :)
[03:44] <KRaZy_WaKa> burningmunk: prolly around US $20 or less i would assume, i've seen mobo's and ATA HDD's that come with SATA conversion cables
[03:44] <Nutzebahn> anirudh0: I don't want it to go into standby mode, I just want it to turn off the drives, but leave the other parts on.
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa He Bee Gone
[03:44] <seagan> ugh, sound drivers. I tried alsa and oss and still my x-fi isnt working on ubuntu anyone else having trouble with xfi?
[03:44] <KRaZy_WaKa> eh missed him
[03:44] <JonathanElli1> HELP! I have just installed ubuntu 8.04 (clean install). Then I followed these steps from http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/                (1) Make way for the new “home” sudo mv /home /old_home       (2) Then I needed to install Partition Editor to check which partition my home directory was located on sudo apt-get install gparted              (3) Then gparted wouldnt run because there was no home directory
[03:44] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah i noticed Jack but thankx anyways
[03:45] <Rayvis> I'm having a problem with Amarok lately. When I try to play a song, it starts to play for about half a second then Amarok freezes up. Anyone know how to fix this? I really like Amarok
[03:45] <Catslacks> Can someone help me get my wireless working?
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 run live to fix it...
[03:45] <KRaZy_WaKa> multi-tasking drinking some longnecks chatting on IRC and talking to my uncle who is drinking longnecks with me, got that message out a little slow
[03:45] <Nutzebahn> anirudh0: I don't want it to go into standby mode, I just want it to turn off the drives, but leave the other parts on. Can't I do that?
[03:45] <mobiGeek> tester: try:    find . -name "*.mp3" | tar cf - -T - | (cd /the/other/dir && tar xf -)
[03:45] <anirudh0> Rayvis: running amarok from the terminal will tell you what the problem is..then you or we ..an fix it
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> JonathanElli1 http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[03:46] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: this may not be safe..but look up hdparm
[03:46] <tester> mobiGeek, will it copy right away or will i have to wait until its done finding them
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> KRaZy_WaKa goodnight..  and goodnight to all...
[03:47] <mobiGeek> it will start copying after a few secs
[03:47] <anirudh0> Nutzebahn: look up the man page..specifically the -B flag
[03:47] <node357> goodnight Jack_Sparrow
[03:47] <Rayvis> How would I run Amarok from Terminal?
[03:47] <mobiGeek> tester: it uses piping, so as soon as find has pumped out a few filenames, the first tar starts archiving them to stdout, then the second tar will start extracting them.
[03:47] <Nutzebahn> What?
[03:47] <DG19075> Ravis: Just run the name as a command in termional
[03:47] <tester> no luck
[03:48] <mobiGeek> tester: in the second tar, you could make it:   tar xvf -
[03:48] <anirudh0> Rayvis: accessories->terminal...type amarok
[03:48] <Leefmc> Yea, bummer. My computer isn't USB-Bootable
[03:48] <mobiGeek> tester: then you'll see the filenames printed to STDERR as they get exttracted/written to the other directory
[03:49] <Rayvis> Thanks DG1 abd Anirudh, I didn't think it would be that simple.
[03:49] <Samuel_> hola
[03:49] <bouma> is there a way to get rid of evolution, i find the large updates to be a waste of my very limited bandwidth and quota ??
[03:49] <Samuel_> hola
[03:49] <Flannel> bouma: just remove the package
[03:49] <adam7> bouma, you can uninstall it using the package manager
[03:49] <adam7> or sudo apt-get uninstall evolution
[03:49] <Samuel_> hola
[03:50] <Leefmc> Question: This sounds sort of insane, but what are my options to install real ubuntu (not wubi) from within Windows? Note that i can't install from USB or CD (Oddly enough, Floppy is enabled but i have no floppydrive, and Network is an option)
[03:50] <Flannel> Leefmc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[03:50] <bouma> sudo apt-get uninstall evolution
[03:50] <bouma> gives E: Invalid operation uninstall
[03:50] <Rayvis> I ran Amarok from terminal but it didn't say anything after I tried to play a song and it froze.
[03:50] <Leefmc> ah, i was in the smartboot heh :)
[03:50] <tritium> bouma: remove
[03:50] <Flannel> bouma: Or just use synaptic
[03:51] <adam7> bouma, sorry, my mistake, it should be remove, not uninstall
[03:51] <tritium> bouma: purge also works, if you want config files deleted as well
[03:51] <tritium> bouma: err, remove --purge, rather
[03:51] <schnootop> since installing moblock every update or delete i do i get a E: moblock: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 6
[03:51] <schnootop> has anyone run into this ?
[03:51] <Flannel> tritium: purge will work in Hardy
[03:51] <mobiGeek> tester: that work?
[03:51] <tester> no
[03:52] <tritium> Flannel: ah, indeed
[03:52] <mobiGeek> tester: what didn't work?
[03:52] <Leefmc> Flannel: It mentions on that page "if you later want install it to a dedicated partition, you can do it." in regards to Wubi. Are they saying that from within my running ubuntu OS, i can install a _real_ ubuntu (not the singlefile wubi thing)?
[03:52] <bouma> ah thanks everyone, simple :)
[03:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> leefmc: doesnt that defeat the purpose of running ubuntu?
[03:52] <anirudh0> # /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[03:52] <tester> find *.mp3 | cpio -pdumv /mnt/40gig  this one is close that i found but its failing because it cant create the directory paths which i dont care to copy over any how
[03:52] <anirudh0>  /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[03:53] <Leefmc> KRaZy_WaKa: Why would it? I'm installing a real normal version of ubuntu
[03:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> leefmc: throw in a 20 or 40 GB HDD and dual boot it! :)
[03:53] <mobiGeek> tester: you saying you wanna copy all .mp3 to one directory??  if so, that's easy
[03:53] <Flannel> Leefmc: From Ubuntu, you can install Ubuntu with the "from within linux" instructions, but no, you can't migrate from wubi to a real install withouth going through an installer
[03:53] <tester> yes
[03:53] <bouma> tritium: um what would have happened if i let off the purge ?
[03:53] <bouma> tritium: i mean what just happened
[03:53] <Leefmc> KRaZy_WaKa: Heh, this has been an ongoing installation. Its a laptop with essentially no cd, and no usb installation option. And ofcourse, a laptop, not having floppy.
[03:53] <tritium> bouma: purge removes config files
[03:54] <kthakore> how do I view tasks in my calendar view in evolution
[03:54] <michael_buckbee> Can anyone recommend a Terminal client for Ubuntu similar to the Mac iTerm?
[03:54] <mobiGeek> find . -name "*.mp3" | xargs -i cp "{}" /the/other/dir
[03:54] <Flannel> bouma: You left the evolution config files.  You can remove them through synaptic, find the packages and mark them for "complete removal"
[03:54] <Leefmc> Flannel: So my only real option to try a real ubuntu install, is UNetbootin?
[03:54] <anirudh0> Flannel: or just delete ~/.evolution
[03:54] <bouma> Flannel: ok, thats a nice system. /me impressed
[03:54] <Flannel> anirudh0: no, the config files in question are the ones in /etc/, it will not remove anything in your homedir
[03:54] <Flannel> anirudh0: With or without the purge
[03:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> how do you do anything with it? no CD? that sucks, does it not have a cdrom or just no install option?
[03:55] <anirudh0> how does one stop join/part messages in irssi?
[03:55] <Markov> Hi'a. I ran out of space on my /boot partition can I just delete the older kernels and related files?
[03:55] <mobiGeek> tester: throw in a "-v" to display progress:  find . -name "*.mp3" | xargs -i cp -v "{}" /the/other/dir
[03:55] <anirudh0> Markov: yes
[03:55] <Flannel> Leefmc: It seems so.
[03:55] <tester> mobiGeek, http://pastebin.org/39597
[03:55] <gregbrady> Ok, someone please remind me why Linux is better than XP when the latest round of updates wiped out my laptop.  Upgrading to 8.04 also created havoc with every wireless card in the house.
[03:56] <Flannel> anirudh0: /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[03:56] <michael_buckbee> gregbrady: Ubuntu builds character
[03:56] <gregbrady> michael_buckbee: Perfect answer!!!  I love it.
[03:56] <mobiGeek> tester: permission denied
[03:56] <tester> mobiGeek, im root
[03:57] <DICO> ALGUEM AFIM TC
[03:57] <mobiGeek> tester: no you are not....the "find" is sudo...not the cp
[03:57] <anirudh0> Flannel: thanks
[03:57] <eniacpx> gregbrady: Luck of tha hardware draw. You could be in the reverse situation, questioning XP, if you had different hardware.
[03:57] <Flannel> !br | DICO
[03:57] <gregbrady> eniacpx: Five computers worth of bad luck???
[03:57] <tester> mobiGeek, your a genius its working
[03:57] <mobiGeek> tester: give everyone permission to write there:    sudo chmod a+w /mnt/40gig
[03:57] <anirudh0> eniacpx: there is hardware that does'nt work on xp?
[03:58] <DICO> #ubuntu-br
[03:58] <mobiGeek> tester: it's just unix man.  no genius required  :-)
[03:58] <will00> does anyone know how to share a hard drive over a vpn?
[03:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> anirudh0: as there is on any OS
[03:58] <harriseldon> gregbrady I find XP cludgy non-intuitive and a pain to use. I recently purchased a USB bluetooth adapter. On XP it wanted to replace the Windows bluetooth stack with one from Toshiba. On Linux it just worked.
[03:58] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: but if a piece of hardware does'nt work on xp,its manufacturer's will go out of business
[03:59] <DICO> EU NAO ENTENDI CARAI
[03:59] <mobiGeek> I want to run a CMS on my home machine.  Simple stuff: good gallery, blog w/ comments, etc... Want something flexible yet mostly easy to admin.  Recommendations? I know Postnuke and don't want to go back...
[03:59] <harriseldon> will00 vpn just encrypts the connection. You can use any method like NFS or CIFS (Samba) once the conneciton is established
[03:59] <anirudh0> DICO: you must type "/join #ubuntu-br"
[03:59] <dhamma> how do i reinstall the kernel hardware drivers?
[03:59] <gregbrady> harriseldon: yup, understood.  I just wish Linux would be computer centric instead of the current distro models.  Make them for current hardware.
[04:00] <KRaZy_WaKa> anirud0: nah they adapt, hardware is designed for certain OS's, Windoze is known for compatibility issues
[04:00] <Leefmc> Flannel: And just to make absolutely positive, i can use UNetbootin with HD selected, to install Ubuntu without replacing/damaging the OS on that Harddrive, correct?
[04:00] <harriseldon> gregbrady it is a constant struggle between choice and standards. I agree.
[04:00] <usser> will00, nothing special is required if u have vpn running just share it using samba. The other computer should then see yours in a windows network
[04:00] <gregbrady> harriseldon: oh yeah.....and we are caught in between.
[04:00] <harriseldon> dhamma what happened that you need to do that? Is there a specific driver that you need?
[04:01] <KRaZy_WaKa> case in point: i am working on a friends XP computer which has a compatibility issue with a LiteOn DVD burner, and thus far haven't found the right drivers for it
[04:01] <Leefmc> Since it only gives you 2 options, USB & HD, i just want to make sure heh. The faq isn't explaining that part (that i've seen yet)
[04:01] <dhamma> harriseldon: yes, my audio driver got corrupted somehow...i got a fatal error during bootup at the loading hardware drivers stage...error message related to alsa
[04:02] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: thats because ms is trying hard to push vista now...and vista is such a sorry piece of work that the only way to do that is to ensure that some stuff only works on it
[04:02] <boyam> mobiGeek, try joomla
[04:02] <Flannel> Leefmc: You should defrag windows first.  And, this might be good to read before hand. once you've booted, its just like any other installation.
[04:02] <Flannel> !dualboot | LeChaca1
[04:02] <Flannel> Oh, Leef left.  Sorry LeChaca1
[04:02] <Nutzebahn> anirudh0: I don't want it to go into standby mode, I just want it to turn off the drives, but leave the other parts on. Can't I do that?
[04:03] <KRaZy_WaKa> was going to make him learn ubuntu bcuz i know it will work! but am trying my best to keep him in his comfort zone as he is not very computer literate, he can do the basic everybody stuff i.e. web browsing dload music, edit video with windows movie maker, etc.
[04:03] <gregbrady> harriseldon: sorry, just venting here a bit!
[04:03] <harriseldon> dhamma use pastebin to post the error. Perhaps someone can help to diagnose the problem without rebuilding the modules
[04:03] <swansk> Can someone explain why when I click on the "updates available" and choose "preferences" it does absolutely nothing?
[04:03] <swansk> Is anyone having GUI update issues?
[04:03] <KRaZy_WaKa> i'm sure i'd spend a lot of time on here fixing things that he would mess up if i set him loose on ubuntu lol
[04:04] <gregbrady> swansk: huge.  It just took out one of my laptops
[04:04] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: that is a very common scenario..i'm trying to make by mom leave xp...but she says she does'nt want to learn another office suite again..even though oofice is so similar...
[04:04] <Rayvis> Which is better overall, Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[04:04] <anirudh0> Rayvis: ubuntu...though kubuntu guys work harder
[04:04] <usser> KRaZy_WaKa, that is no problem just remove his account from sudoers so he cant make system wide changes
[04:04] <dhamma> harriseldon: the error messages scrolled by too fast and i didn't know how to freeze the screen and write it down...during another reboot the error message went away, but i've been without audio since then...rebooting and following the audio troubleshooting guide did nothing...it's either reinstall the modules or clean install, which i'd rather avoid
[04:04] <poopsock> Rayvis lol. Do you like gnome or kde?
[04:04] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah trying to convince my gf as well lol... but some of her pogo games wont work with ubuntu lol
[04:04] <swansk> gregbrady: not that kind of update.  I am talking about minor daily updates.
[04:04] <harriseldon> Rayvis do you prefer KDE or GNOME?
[04:04] <Flannel> Rayvis: its just personal preference.
[04:05] <gregbrady> swansk, so am I
[04:05] <poopsock> Rayvis if you don't know the difference, use ubuntu
[04:05] <harriseldon> dhamma what is the module for your audio driver?
[04:05] <poopsock> Rayvis if you want to be cool like me, use xubuntu
[04:05] <anirudh0> harriseldon: kubuntu-kde4 can give ubuntu a run for its money though..4.1 is coming in a month
[04:05] <anirudh0> poopsock: lol
[04:05] <J-a-k-e> hi all, does anyone know hor to go about editing /boot/grub so i can sort out my  error 17 and error 13(windows issues?
[04:05] <KRaZy_WaKa> says online version is only for users running windows with IE, if the world was more in tune with ubuntu philosophy it'd be such a better place
[04:05] <swansk> gregbrady: really?  I have to manually update everything from the command line.  The gui update manager and synaptic doesn't work for me.
[04:06] <anirudh0> poopsock: why stop at xubuntu..go fluxubuntu!
[04:06] <gregbrady> swansk: I can't even add new programs anymore!
[04:06] <poopsock> anirudh0 ah, now we are talking
[04:06] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: run IE under winw
[04:06] <Flannel> swansk: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`  will upgrade everything
[04:06] <harriseldon> dhamma did you try rmmod for the audio driver. Then in a separate terminal use tail -f /var/log/messages then modprobe the driver again and look in the other session for errors
[04:06] <dhamma> harriseldon: i'm not sure, but my card is cmedia cmi8738
[04:06] <anirudh0> *wine
[04:06] <poopsock> anirudh0 although i usually do use fluxbox on another, unmentionable, OS
[04:06] <tehdave> i'm having issues with my video card...Nvidia geforce 7600. I think the latest kernel upgrade broke the driver and I can't get it working again -_-
[04:06] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah i thought about that, but she's a woman lol you know how that goes... they are right you are wrong! lmao
[04:06] <anirudh0> poopsock: there are even better things out there..damn small linnx for instance ;)
[04:06] <gregbrady> swansk: my system has slowley degraded to being almost useless.  I have to completely wipe it out and reinstall tomorrow some time
[04:07] <swansk> Flannel: I have to do that even for minor updates?  Will that fix the issues I have?
[04:07] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: so true!
[04:07] <Rayvis> Would Amarok run better on Kubuntu? It's started having troub;e running in Ubuntu
[04:07] <anirudh0> Rayvis: no..the same..what trouble
[04:07] <Flannel> swansk: That'll grab all updates, all the time.  The alternative (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade) will be identical except it won't grab new kernels.
[04:07] <poopsock> anirudh0 nah, linux from scratch ;)
[04:08] <poopsock> no cruft, no mess
[04:08] <anirudh0> poopsock: no..linux from scratch!=small binaries
[04:08] <poopsock> Rayvis shouldn't make a difference
[04:08] <swansk> Flannel: great.  I'd remember that.  Now how do I get my gui update manager working again?
[04:08] <poopsock> anirudh0 come look at mine
[04:08] <harriseldon> anirudh0 did you see this explanation of Plasma by Sebastian Kügler? It almost makes me want to switch to KDE, especially the activities concept. http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=817
[04:08] <anirudh0> poopsock: the perfect thing to learn linux on though
[04:08] <anirudh0> harriseldon: then you should :)
[04:08] <J-a-k-e> anybody? I Grub wont let me load ubuntu 8.04 it just gives me error 17
[04:08] <Rayvis> Anirudh0: It freezes when I try to play a song. I ran from terminal but it didn't say anything special. After it freezes, I have to open  System Monitor and end it that way to try to open it again. It worked fine a couple days ago though.
[04:08] <legend2440> gregbrady: do you have the hardy-proposed repo enabled? that seems to be causing problems for some
[04:08] <Flannel> swansk: I have no idea.  It depends on what's broken.  If its something that broke with an upgrade, then upgrading again (once they fix the package) should fix it
[04:09] <poopsock> anirudh0 anyway, I'm a bad, bad man and use freebsd mostly :(
[04:09] <poopsock> i'm sorry
[04:09] <swansk> gregbrady: Your right, I can't add software either.
[04:09] <gregbrady> legend2440: let me check
[04:09] <anirudh0> harriseldon: its only a gig on your hard disk after all...and kwin4 even has composite support..so no compiz needed
[04:09] <anirudh0> poopsock: i pity you then
[04:09] <KRaZy_WaKa> although i think i may be able to turn her after a while, right now i am running a win XP install of questionable legality on her computer, and she does get on mine on occasion so i found out last night lol
[04:09] <swansk> legend2440: Maybe that is my problem.
[04:09] <reginatto> Rayvis: the only difference is that the libraries and pre requisites are mostly already instaled at kubuntu to support amarok
[04:09] <anirudh0> :)
[04:09] <harriseldon> anirudh0 I will wait for 4.1 and try it
[04:09] <gregbrady> swansk: nope, my system is completely beat....
[04:09] <anirudh0> harriseldon: try from the current svn..compiles without any problems
[04:09] <dhamma> harriseldon: rmmod snd-cmipci
[04:09] <dhamma> ERROR: Module snd_cmipci is in use
[04:10] <poopsock> anirudh0 i love pity from ubuntu users. As long as they use the pityGUI and never recompile the pity themselves!
[04:10] <anirudh0> harriseldon: nick from the foundation?
[04:10] <Flannel> swansk: hardy-proposed is not stable, and should *not* be enabled on almost everyone's boxes.
[04:10] <gregbrady> legend2440: I get the following error: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:10] <gregbrady> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[04:10] <anirudh0> poopsock: lol :D
[04:10] <harriseldon> anirudh0 yes, but spelled wrong (not on purpose)
[04:10] <swansk> Flannel: Maybe That is my problem.
[04:10] <harriseldon> dhamma use sudo rmmod -f snd_cmipci
[04:10] <swansk> Flannel: HOw do I make sure it's off?
[04:10] <gregbrady> legend2440: and when I run dpkg, it just crashes my computer and takes about 20 minutes to reboot
[04:11] <harriseldon> dhamma this will force the removal of the module even if it is in use
[04:11] <mohadib> hello , i instaled ubuntu 8.04 today , but now dhclient is broken , it will not get a lease from my dhcp device
[04:11] <Flannel> swansk: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:11] <mohadib> any ideas on fixing this
[04:11] <dhamma> harriseldon: ERROR: Removing 'snd_cmipci': Resource temporarily unavailable
[04:11] <adam7> mohadib, how do you know that it's broken, other then it can't get a lease?
[04:11] <mohadib> adam7: thats broken in  my book
[04:12] <anirudh0> swansk: some repos get put in /etc/apt/sources.list.d as well..you might want to look there
[04:12] <mohadib> i can reboot to dapper and all works fine
[04:12] <adam7> mohadib, is it wireless?
[04:12] <SuN13> mohadib: wireless?
[04:12] <harriseldon> dhamma can you use pastebin to show the output of lspci and lsmod?
[04:12] <KRaZy_WaKa> anirudh0: told her that her AVG free is being discontinued in 2 days and wont be able to install the new because i cant get SP2 on her computer, and she suggested buying windows, in the current US economic situation lol
[04:12] <mohadib> adam7: SuN13 its wired network
[04:12] <dhamma> harriseldon: ok...hang on
[04:12] <Flannel> mohadib: You have them both installed on the same box?
[04:12] <mohadib> Flannel: yes , on differient harddrives
[04:12] <Jordan_U> mohadib, Is it possible that the interface name changed ( maybe eth0 became eth1 and eth1 became wifi0 as happened to me once ) ?
[04:12] <legend2440> gregbrady: have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a  ?
[04:12] <swansk> anirudh0: ok. I'll look
[04:13] <mohadib> i made sure its useing eth1
[04:13] <mohadib> using mii-tool
[04:13] <gregbrady> legend2440: yup, it just crashes my laptop and it takes 20-30 minutes to reboot
[04:13] <JonathanElli1> !pastebin
[04:13] <mohadib> the other nic is completly unplugged
[04:13] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: hmm..does anyone buy windows in the us for home use?...in india people almost never buy windows for home stuff..only organisations have to
[04:13] <KRaZy_WaKa> anirudh0: if i could get all the games she likes running on ubuntu i'd be able to get her to switch without a problem i'm sure.
[04:13] <JonathanElli1> !pastebin
[04:13] <tehdave> Anyone else have issues with an Nvidia card after the latest kernel updates?
[04:14] <Someothername> Hello, thank your for a fascinating distribution.  My interesting issue is that I installed Ubuntu onto my HP nc8430 with the Alternate CD.  With the Live CD, the broadcom wireless was detected and almost all the quicklaunch buttons worked.  After the install, neither the wireless nor any of the quicklaunch buttons worked.  Any thoughts or direction?  Thank you very much.
[04:14] <SuN13> tehdave: i have
[04:14] <trask> anirudh0: here in denmark piracy rates are about 30%
[04:14] <tehdave> SuN13, have you gotten it to work properly since?
[04:14] <SuN13> tehdave: are you using the new kernel restricted drivers?
[04:15] <swansk> sources.list.d has nothing in it
[04:15] <dfg59> can anyone offer help trouble shooting high swap usage on a VPS?
[04:15] <anirudh0> trask: :)..almost 100% in india ...and people say the situation is same in china as well
[04:15] <Jordan_U> KRaZy_WaKa, That is more of a question for #ubuntu-offtopic or some other channel, but yes, some people buy windows in the U.S. and almost all computers come with windows ( legally ) installed
[04:15] <tehdave> SuN13, Tried installing them, rebooted, came back into a 600x400 resolution and it wouldn't detect my card T-T
[04:15] <swansk> flannel: I don't see any "probable" in sources.list
[04:15] <trask> anirudh0: im coming as soon as i can, i know i live in the dead end of the world :P
[04:15] <tehdave> SuN13, tried using the nvidia-glx package, nvidia-glx-new, and even the driver installer from Nvidia themselves
[04:16] <tritium> KRaZy_WaKa: please don't discuss owning pirated software here.  Thanks.
[04:16] <tehdave> uninstalling each one before installing the next...
[04:16] <dhamma> harriseldon: http://pastebin.ca/1033715
[04:16] <SuN13> techdave: which restricted drivers do you have installed?
[04:16] <Nith> anyone know how to invoke the setup from a liveusb?
[04:16] <Nith> whats the bin name
[04:16] <legend2440> swansk: how about hardy-proposed?
[04:16] <anirudh0> trask: ubuntu has a niche in regional languages though..ms does'nt care about people on villages who dont know english..but ubuntu and fsf does
[04:16] <tehdave> SuN13, don't have the restricted drivers (from the Gui) active now
[04:16] <anirudh0> Nith: ubiquity
[04:17] <tehdave> using the driver I got off Nvidia's site
[04:17] <gregbrady> legend2440: I see quite a few problems after the last update.  I think it might have been a bit of a disaster for Ubuntu
[04:17] <tehdave> when I uninstalled it before and used the restricted driver, it came back to a ridiculously low-res X session
[04:17] <SuN13> techdave: which nvida card do you have?
[04:17] <swansk> legend2440: nope.  not there
[04:17] <trask> anirudh0: its not the softwarelaws that drag me there, its the food ;)
[04:17] <tehdave> SuN13, Geforce 7600
[04:17] <KRaZy_WaKa> my apologies
[04:18] <mohadib> so no ideas why dhclient would work in dapper and no Hardy?
[04:18] <legend2440> gregbrady: did you check if hardy-proposed repo was enabled?
[04:18] <Buhmanator> what a channel, 1262 people...
[04:18] <gregbrady> legend2440: I can't, Synaptic crashes
[04:19] <anirudh0> trask: we have the same laws..but no one enforces them :)
[04:19] <montamer> hi ; is firefox 3 release??? i just did a upgrade and it says firefox3 ; but no info on mozilla site...........
[04:19] <swansk> legend2440: everything in my system - admin  won't start
[04:19] <tehdave> montamer: as far as I know, it's the beta version
[04:19] <anirudh0> montamer: yes..rc1 was out long ago
[04:19] <Buhmanator> montamer, rc1 is out
[04:19] <SuN13> techdave: try installing restricted modules for Linux version 2.6.24.17-generic
[04:19] <legend2440> gregbrady: in terminal gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:19] <anirudh0> montamer: which  repo are you using?
[04:19] <kenalex> hello
[04:20] <KRaZy_WaKa> RC1 is not official release though you have to click on the latest update link or something like that on mozilla site
[04:20] <tehdave> SuN13, so run the uninstall script for the nvidia driver, then install restricted?
[04:20] <KRaZy_WaKa> one moment let me check
[04:20] <kenalex> what tool can i use in ubuntu to join wmv video files
[04:20] <harriseldon> dhamma I do not notice anything strange. Can you do a dmesg | grep -i cmipci to see if there was some error raised for this module?
[04:20] <montamer> it just says firefox 3 no extention like rc1 or anything
[04:20] <Buhmanator> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html
[04:20] <montamer> i will just give a link to screenshot
[04:20] <montamer> wait
[04:20] <anirudh0> montamer: rc1==release candidate 1
[04:21] <gregbrady> legend2440: and the lines will be?
[04:21] <anirudh0> montamer: essentially identical to the final release...except for any glaring bugs that might come out
[04:21] <montamer> ohhh
[04:21] <SuN13> techdave:  what i did was use the synaptic package manager... I unistalled the previous restricted one...unistalled previous drivers ...then just install it from the package manager....just to a search for nvidia and it is listed
[04:21] <swansk> ledend2440: I can't even start the partition editor.  Authorizations I could start.
[04:21] <Buhmanator> i use rc's they are usually really good
[04:21] <tehdave> SuN13, only thing is, not sure if it would be the nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new...
[04:21] <chelz> is there some central place i can go to modify the default program different filetypes open with instead of right clicking on each and going to Open With?
[04:21] <gregbrady> legend2440: I don't see any terms "hardy-proposed"
[04:22] <montamer> ye i guess it is rc1
[04:22] <tehdave> in synaptic
[04:22] <montamer> i got so exited :)
[04:22] <KRaZy_WaKa> montamer: on mozilla website halfway down on right hand side, under what's new Firefox 3 Sneak Peek
[04:22] <tehdave> or are you saying just go through the restricted drivers manager?
[04:22] <SuN13> techdave: doesnt matter if you install the correct restricted driver...it will show up in the hardware driver list
[04:22] <anirudh0> chelz: yes../usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[04:22] <dhamma> harriseldon: ﻿dmesg | grep -i cmipc didn't return an error message
[04:22] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: saw the ff download record thing?
[04:22] <KRaZy_WaKa> speaking of RC1 has it hit the ubuntu repos yet?
[04:23] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: they really want to burn their servers :)
[04:23] <chelz> anirudh0: thanks! :D
[04:23] <legend2440> gregbrady: ok well then something else messed it up  can u open synaptic from terminal? gksu synaptic
[04:23] <Buhmanator> rc1 could become rc2 and so on, or it could turn into the final without a change larger than merely changing the internal name from rc1 to final
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[04:23] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: some reports on irc last night
[04:23] <harriseldon> dhamma are you using Hardy?
[04:23] <dhamma> harriseldon: yes
[04:23] <anirudh0> KRaZy_WaKa: sorry...8 hrs ago
[04:23] <Someothername> I only started using FF3.0 today, and I have already had problems printing and viewing websites
[04:24] <Someothername> I don't think its that final
[04:24] <swansk> legend2440: updating with command line seems to work fine.  It's some problem with GUI.  It isn't server.
[04:24] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah got the report a couple days ago when RC 1 came out but i get nothing for update manager just the firefox 3 that comes with hardy which isd beta 5
[04:24] <gregbrady> legend2440: Yup, same error
[04:24] <anirudh0> Someothername: i've had mem usage going to 70%
[04:24] <Buhmanator> rc1, i've seen is actually rock solid, better that 2.0.0.14 by far
[04:24] <tehdave> SuN13, thanks, I'll give it a shot
[04:24] <SuN13> techdave: cool
[04:24] <harriseldon> dhamma what is the error message you are getting? or is it just no sound output?
[04:24] <legend2440> gregbrady: what does error msg say?
[04:25] <J-a-k-e> hey does anyone able to help me out with my grub problem?
[04:25] <dhamma> harriseldon: no sound output
[04:25] <Buhmanator> anirudh0: unused memory is wasted memory
[04:25] <gregbrady> legend2440: same as described previously
[04:25] <anirudh0> Buhmanator: not when it prevents other apps from running..my comp was down to a crawl coz of ff
[04:25] <trask> how long time goes usually between releases of new firefox ubuntu builds?
[04:25] <swansk> legend2440: I just updated.  The "update" notice went away.  I can only update with the command line.  The update notice functions don't work.  And many of the admin functions like synaptic don't work.
[04:25] <anirudh0> !ASK| J-a-k-e
[04:26] <harriseldon> dhamma have you check the mixer settings to make sure it is not muted? If you can confirm that, we can move onto other steps to diagnose the problem
[04:26] <gregbrady> legend2440: run dpkg....and when I try that, my machine crashes and takes 20-30 minutes to reboot
[04:26] <adam7> i'll brb again
[04:26] <dhamma> harriseldon: yes, i already check that out...nothing is muted
[04:26] <godfreyhk_> would anyone be kind enough to pastebin the EXACT output for traceroute www.example.com for me? :)
[04:27] <anirudh0> godfreyhk_: unknown host
[04:27] <godfreyhk_> I'm writing up a tutorial article but somehow I couldn't get the traceroute the work correctly on this vm..
[04:27] <godfreyhk_> anirudh0: are you sure?
[04:27] <godfreyhk_> cause I can do it on my windows PC
[04:28] <anirudh0> godfreyhk_: traceroute: unknown host www.example.com
[04:28] <SeaPhor> godfreyhk, its tracert
[04:28] <Someothername> gregbrady: backup your home directory and reinstall?
[04:28] <harriseldon> dhamma can you try to play a sound file from the command line with the command aplay -v [sound file]
[04:28] <tritium> SeaPhor: no, he's correct
[04:28] <gregbrady> Someothername: yup, that's what I'm thinking.  Time to give another distro a chance
[04:28] <chelz> seanw: tracert equivalents to traceroute -I
[04:28] <dhamma> harriseldon: ok...gimme a sec
[04:28] <chelz> SeaPhor: tracert equivalents to traceroute -I
[04:28] <godfreyhk_> SeaPhor: I thought that's an alias for the windows version
[04:28] <zSoilworker> I see some guys in here like 15 hours a day everytime with a new problem, isn't it time to those people to realize that Ubuntu is just not appropiate to them?
[04:29] <Someothername> anybody get different hardware detection going from live CD to hd install?
[04:29] <chelz> zSoilworker: heh chances are they should google and RTFM more, but at least they're trying in their own way ;)
[04:29] <tritium> zSoilworker: to each their own.  If they'd like to solve the problem, more power to them.
[04:29] <gregbrady> zSoilworker: yup, I agree.  I fall into that catagory.
[04:29] <anirudh0> godfreyhk_: strange..ping and tracepath give something...traceroute says unknown host
[04:30] <amenado> zSoilworker-> persistence is the key
[04:30] <anirudh0> zSoilworker: on the contrary, ubuntu is exactly what is appropriate for them
[04:30] <J-a-k-e> ok, well I have windows on a 160 gig ide drive and ubuntu on my 30gig ide + a 320gig sata for movies and such Grub keeps on playing up and giving me an error 17 message when i try to load ubuntu 8.04 and sometimes an error 13 message when i try to load windows xp. I have tried reinstalling grub off the ubuntu live cd to each drive at different times, Tho it seems it is only a temporary fix
[04:30] <legend2440> gregbrady: any files in /var/lib/dpkg/updates?
[04:30] <yusuf_> hi
[04:30] <dhamma> harriseldon: http://pastebin.ca/1033740
[04:31] <anirudh0> zSoilworker: because no other distro allows you to survive without rtfm
[04:31] <gregbrady> legend2440: let me check
[04:31] <KRaZy_WaKa> j-a-k-e: running vista?
[04:31] <anirudh0> J-a-k-e: paste menu.lst
[04:31] <karllenz> how do i install the linux binary of doom3?
[04:31] <SeaPhor> tritium, chelz , godfreyhk , I've been using tracert, since i was on Red Hat 7.04?
[04:31] <godfreyhk____> my output looks like this http://pastebin.com/m16f0128b
[04:31] <zSoilworker> I guess they will be more comfortable using WIndows.
[04:31] <grendal_prime> bad news
[04:32] <gregbrady> legend2440: yes, 37 of them
[04:32] <zSoilworker> At least if they screw up, wich is most likely, they coudld just reinstall it.
[04:32] <tritium> SeaPhor: why don't you check what's installed, then
[04:32] <godfreyhk____> I am guessing some of my ICMP packets got filtered by vmware or sth
[04:32] <J-a-k-e> KRaZy_WaKa: no, windows xp I never had this trouble with with 7.10
[04:32] <karllenz> this is what the file is called i gotta get to run doom3-linux-1.3.1.1304.x86.run
[04:32] <SeaPhor> tritium, lol,,, ok :-)
[04:32] <legend2440> gregbrady: remove them   sudo rm *
[04:32] <anirudh0> godfreyhk_: you should'nt be asking guys to post their traceroute..not in a public forum
[04:32] <gregbrady> legend2440: all?
[04:32] <chelz> SeaPhor: i just copied and pasted what the tracert man page said
[04:32] <godfreyhk____> since I only need some sample output for my article I'm thinking that it's too much work to debug this problem
[04:32] <legend2440> gregbrady: yes
[04:33] <adam7> legend2440, gregbrady: be careful with that command
[04:33] <smehmood> if the nvidia driver is properly working 'lsmod | grep glx' should produce a line of output, correct? This is not happening for me, even though Load 'glx' is in the Module section of my xorg.conf. anyone know what's up?
[04:33] <grendal_prime> this thing was working great all damn day..i installed some virtual box os stuff..and now none of my kernels modules are loading...x wont start..and nvidia driver wont load. before i start tearing things apart is anyone familar with this situation?
[04:33] <harriseldon> dhamma can you try aplay again but this time use pasuspender aplay [filename]? This will remove pulse audio as a potential problem
[04:33] <godfreyhk____> anirudh0: maybe you can remove/change the internal network part?
[04:33] <bobboy> does anyone know the name of the app that is a sidebar like mac has or windows gadgets or something lol.. it has RSS feeds.. clock.. network monitoring..etc
[04:33] <legend2440> gregbrady: yes be very careful make sure you are in right folder
[04:33] <anirudh0> godfreyhk____: then whats the point :)
[04:34] <J-a-k-e> anirudh0: is that /boot/grub/menu.list? I'm running windows xp at the moment the only thing I can boot into so I'll have to reboot off the live cd
[04:34] <grendal_prime> this is a dell machine inspiron with 710 pre install on it.
[04:34] <anirudh0> J-a-k-e: xp has an ext3 driver..google for it..it'll allow you to access menu.lst
[04:34] <SuN13> shehmood: make sure you have the correct restricted drivers installed for the kernel
[04:34] <legend2440> gregbrady: cd /var/lib/dpkg/updates
[04:34] <godfreyhk____> anirudh0: well I guess changing 192.168.5.4 to 10.23.10.2 won't be very much of a problem for me
[04:34] <harriseldon> bobboy do you have a url with a screenshot?
[04:34] <dhamma> harriseldon: i have killall pulseaudio in my startup routine...it's not running...having said that...alsa was playing fine for a while, then suddenly stopped....i noticed ktorrent was running at the time, i use gnome, so i don't know if something got corrupted that way
[04:34] <gregbrady> legend2440: done
[04:35] <godfreyhk____> at least it's better than those * * *  :S
[04:35] <bobboy> harriseldon: one sec ill try to get you one
[04:35] <anirudh0> dhamma: unlikely
[04:35] <adam7> gah
[04:35] <gregbrady> legend2440: I sudo nautilus....it just makes it easier
[04:35] <legend2440> gregbrady: not sure if you nedd to reboot or not   try synaptic
[04:35] <chipbuddy> kubuntu
[04:35] <smehmood> does anyone know of reasons that would prevent the glx kernel module from loading in Hardy?
[04:36] <KRaZy_WaKa> j-a-k-e: here are som dual-boot tutorials that may help, http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Ubuntu     http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2006/06/02/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-606-dapper-linux-desktop-along-side-windows-xp/  first site is vista and ubuntu dual boot tut, and second link is dapper and XP dual boot tut, ya may have to browse around the sites a bit for hardy and XP dual boot
[04:36] <anirudh0> godfreyhk____: its probably not convenient for you..but i'd suggest ssh'ing to a public server..and running traceroute from there
[04:36] <harriseldon> dhamma any reason why you stopped pulseaudio? Have you gone through steps to make sure that alsa is not trying to use pulse?
[04:36] <dhamma> anirudh0: i've had audio problems from ktorrent taking control of my audio, but it was never anything that couldn't be fixed by closing ktorrent or (at worst) rebooting
[04:36] <gregbrady> legend2440: ok, now should i upgrade or what?
[04:36] <bobboy> harriseldon: http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1290/screenshot1li4.png something like this
[04:36] <chipbuddy> i just reinstalled 7.10 on a harddrive with windows xp, and grub was set up just fine. but when i tried to install 8.04 grub would not install properly. what gives?
[04:36] <chipbuddy> !hd0
[04:36] <gregbrady> legend2440: and thank you very much for your persistence and help!
[04:36] <anirudh0> dhamma: it is not ktorrent, but arts that controls the audio..hence sudo killall artsd will help
[04:36] <godfreyhk____> anirudh0: I'd do just that thanks :)
[04:36] <legend2440> gregbrady: synaptic opens now? if so try sudo dpkg --configure -a    agin
[04:36] <godfreyhk____> any suggestion though?
[04:37] <SuN13> smehmood: do you have the correct restricted drives installed?
[04:37] <dhamma> harriseldon: i'm not sure what steps that would be...but like i said...alsa was working fine for a while, and even when i removed the 'killall pulseaudio' from my startup routine, the audio wasn't restored
[04:37] <gregbrady> legend2440: will do
[04:37] <Pramod_Helios> I want to change the password of my irc account but i do not know where to get that authcode
[04:37] <bobboy> harriseldon: this guy says its called Sidebar and its a screenlet?? what would be some alternative?
[04:37] <SeaPhor> tritium, chelz , godfreyhk , wait, i think i may have been taken wrong= meaning i said it wrong!, I am a n00b, i have played with things before and been taught this or that but now I am 100% Linux/Ubuntu,, I was not making a statement of correction, was just saying what i have used and how i have used, and yes, i type that slow
[04:37] <cupu> hai
[04:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> is there a windows support channel? and has anybody used it? wondering if it is as good as ours, got some windoze questions i need to ask them
[04:37] <J-a-k-e> KRaZy_WaKa: The thing is everything worked fine with gutsy, tho now that I have hoary installed I'm having issues
[04:37] <Starnestommy> Pramod_Helios: /msg nickserv set password new-password-here
[04:37] <harriseldon> bobboy I think that is gkrellm. Have you tried screenlets?
[04:38] <syntac> disconnect
[04:38] <adam7> KRaZy_WaKa, there is ##windows
[04:38] <SuN13> krazy_waka: yeah
[04:38] <Pramod_Helios> ok thanks
[04:38] <bobboy> harriseldon: i dont even know what screenlets are?
[04:38] <gregbrady> legend2440: ok, If I crash, I'll be back in 30 mins
[04:38] <adam7> syntac, /disconnect ;)
[04:38] <tritium> SeaPhor: it's cool.  The tracert is in the traceroute package, but it's not installed by default.  What's available by default is traceroute6.
[04:38] <dhamma> anirudh0: i have ktorrent running right now and this is what happens: killall artsd
[04:38] <dhamma> artsd: no process killed
[04:38] <legend2440> gregbrady: synaptic opens now?
[04:38] <gregbrady> yes
[04:38] <gregbrady> legend2440: yes
[04:38] <Pramod_Helios> exit
[04:38] <syntac> adam7, yea, it changed windows on me right when i typed it :)
[04:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> adam7 their info any good?
[04:39] <harriseldon> bobboy http://www.screenlets.org/index.php/Home
[04:39] <SeaPhor> tritium, can you give an example cmd?
[04:39] <harriseldon> bobboy it is in the repo's too
[04:39] <tritium> SeaPhor: example of what?
[04:39] <adam7> syntac, ah :)
[04:39] <afabian> Does anyone know if there's a scoring RSS reader?  Like you would score usenet news posts?  This is driving me crazy. RSS can give you a firehose of information, and I haven't found a single program that gives you the tools to manage it properly.
[04:39] <anirudh0> godfreyhk____: seems that was easier said than done..most servers seem to require a paid shell account
[04:39] <legend2440> gregbrady: i guess you can try updates if you want
[04:39] <J-a-k-e> anirudh0: I installed a driver tho I just realised for some reason my ubuntu drive doesn't show under winxp's computer management
[04:39] <anirudh0> godfreyhk____: you dont have a friend who has a public ip?
[04:39] <adam7> KRaZy_WaKa, I assume they're ok, but I don't think there are as many people in their channel as in here
[04:39] <bobboy> harriseldon: k thankyou
[04:39] <SeaPhor> tritium, tracert www.google.com
[04:39] <dhamma> harriseldon: i think the big clue for me was the fatal error message during bootup...i think the audio kernel driver is corrupted and i'd like to reinstall it somehow to see if that's the problem...how do i go about doing that?
[04:39] <gregbrady> legend2440: well, I have to at some point, right?
[04:40] <adam7> J-a-k-e, Windows can't see the ext3 partitions
[04:40] <afabian> Honestly, I think I'm going to have to get an rss to email converter, and then actually use a newsreader on them.
[04:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol off i venture into the abyss that is M$ lol i'll stay here though for moral support :D
[04:40] <legend2440> gregbrady: lol yes good luck
[04:40] <SeaPhor> tritium, thats what i'm used to doing
[04:40] <tritium> SeaPhor: that's correct
[04:40] <gregbrady> legend2440: thanks!  You have really helped me out here
[04:40] <legend2440> gregbrady: your sure hardy-proposed is not enabled?
[04:40] <kelvin911> anyone know how to install canon MP210 printer in ubuntu?
[04:40] <anirudh0> godfreyhk____: you could ssh to his comp..but all this is rather too  much hassle...cant help it though..no one who understands what he is doing is likely to give you his traceroute output :/
[04:40] <kelvin911> it said missing driver
[04:41] <karllenz> ﻿chmod +x doom3-linux-1.3.1.1304.x86.run how do i do that?
[04:41] <J-a-k-e> adam7: ok never mind haha i'm an idiot I just realised I'd disabled the drive in device manager
[04:41] <troxor> karllenz: terminal
[04:41] <gregbrady> legend2440: and listened to my venting at the same time! I will check for the hardy-proposed
[04:41] <karllenz> the file is on my desktop
[04:41] <Someothername> looks like my problem is quite small compared to most.  I think I will just deal.  I downloaded the windows driver and installed ndisgtk.  Wireless is up now.  I have no idea where to go to get the quicklaunch buttons working.  No biggy though.  Thanks again for a really fun distro.
[04:41] <LeChaca1> i just up graded to hardy and i cant figure out how to change what volume channel the buttons on my keyboard and mouse control under gusty it was just preference on volume control not anymore, any ideas?
[04:41] <godfreyhk____> anirudh0: no problem   thanks anywyas :)
[04:41] <troxor> karllenz: right click on it, go to properties, then select "execute" under user
[04:41] <SeaPhor> tritium, thanks for your time
[04:41] <grendal_prime> its like none of the crap that come on this thing works
[04:41] <godfreyhk____> maybe I'll be better off debuging my vmware problem
[04:42] <karllenz> ﻿troxor: now how do i run it?
[04:42] <legend2440> gregbrady: in synaptic>settings>repos>updates>no check on hardy-proposed
[04:42] <karllenz> got it
[04:42] <karllenz> awsome
[04:42] <gregbrady> legend2440: No, hardy-proposed is unchecked
[04:42] <legend2440> gregbrady: ok good
[04:42] <Ububegin> lets say i run a command like gedit helloworld.txt from the bash shell.. how do i bring this application to the background so that i can cont'd using the shell for other purposes
[04:42] <harriseldon> dhamma you can try to reinstall linux-generic but your success may be limited
[04:42] <tritium> grendal_prime: tone down the language, please
[04:43] <anirudh0> Ububegin: add a & to it..but google would have told you faster
[04:43] <chipbuddy> i have 7.1, windows xp and grub all installed and working perfectly. can i use the 8.04 cd to replace 7.1 and not mess up grub or windows? i've had bad experiences with letting the 8.04 cd install grub
[04:43] <bobboy> harriseldon: i installed gkrellm with sudo apt-get install gkrellm but how do i start it up now? i cannot find it in the applications bar
[04:43] <gregbrady> legend2440: take some credit, thanks!
[04:43] <anirudh0> Ububegin: gedit&
[04:43] <dhamma> harriseldon: so what do your instincts tell you...i've run out of options besides a clean install
[04:43] <legend2440> gregbrady: no problem your welcome
[04:43] <kelvin911> how to make Canon MP210 all-in-one printer work?
[04:43] <l815> can someone help me mount my card reader?
[04:44] <Ububegin> anirudh0: but the gedit is already running... i want to bring the application to the background...
[04:44] <dhamma> harriseldon: i've even considered downgrading back to fiesty
[04:44] <dhamma> seems like hardy has multiple issues with people
[04:44] <legend2440> gregbrady: have you tried updates yet?
[04:44] <Ububegin> anirudh0: without closing the alredy opened gedit... Is it not possible :?
[04:44] <Jessica> Hi Folks.  I just installed ddclient.  Does that package automatically start on reboot?  how can I tell?
[04:45] <anirudh0> Ububegin: open a new tab!
[04:45] <l815> how can I mount this ? 09:03.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
[04:45] <joshual> hey folks, whats the best way to install kde4 without installing kubuntu-desktop?
[04:45] <anirudh0> Ububegin: in gnome-terminal :)
[04:45] <smehmood> SuN13: yes, i do have the latest restricted drivers installed.
[04:45] <kelvin911> how to find drivers for canon mp210?
[04:45] <anirudh0> joshual: look up the kubuntu page for details...package name is kde4-core
[04:45] <harriseldon> dhamma corrupted modules like you suggest would mean bad hard drive, that is why it seems unlikely. I would try the live cd first to rule out a general sound card issue
[04:45] <chipbuddy> i have 7.1, windows xp and grub all installed and working perfectly. can i use the 8.04 cd to replace 7.1 and not mess up grub or windows? i've had bad experiences with letting the 8.04 cd install grub
[04:45] <harriseldon> Ububegn go back to the terminal and type ctrl-z
[04:46] <tritium> kelvin911: printers use ppd files.  google for a ppd file, if one's not provided in the ubuntu packages
[04:46] <Ububegin> anirudh0: :) .... Kinda did that all the time, just wondering if there was some other command out there...
[04:46] <harriseldon> Ububegn then type bg to put gedit in the background
[04:46] <anirudh0> harriseldon: does'nt work on all apps
[04:46] <dhamma> harriseldon: good idea...and if live cd plays sound then???  my harddrive (seagate) is fairly new
[04:46] <SuN13> smehmood: which nvidia card do you have
[04:46] <smehmood> SuN13: should there be a "glx" module? lsmod has an "nvidia" module and a "agpgart" module that says "nvidia, intel_agp" next do it
[04:46] <smehmood> SuN13: Geforce 8400
[04:46] <harriseldon> anirudh0 I just did it for gedit :)
[04:46] <kelvin911> tritium: do i look for it in canon website?
[04:46] <kelvin911> tritium: or ubuntu site?
[04:46] <Ububegin> harriseldon: type *bg* .. doesnt work
[04:47] <RoshanK> anirudh0: do you have experience with conky?
[04:47] <tritium> kelvin911: I'd google it.
[04:47] <SuN13> smehmood: you would use the glx new driver, but which version of the restricted driver do you have installed?
[04:47] <anirudh0> RoshanK: conky and compiz dont mix
[04:47] <harriseldon> Ububegin you did ctrl-z first from the terminal to suspend the current command?
[04:47] <Ububegin> harriseldon: no, just type *bg*
[04:48] <J-a-k-e> anirudh0: ok, i can access my ubuntu drive should I just paste my whole menu.list here?
[04:48] <anirudh0> RoshanK: compiz screenlets may be a better option
[04:48] <kelvin911> tritium: canon site doesnt have linux driveras
[04:48] <smehmood> SuN13: 169.12, I installed it using EnvyNG. I've also tried just by using the restricted drivers manager. neither has worked.
[04:48] <anirudh0> J-a-k-e: no..on pastebin.com
[04:48] <RoshanK> anirudh0: really? i thought a bunch of ppl got it working? is it the flickering that you're talking about? well right now i'm trying to use conky but have no clue on it. how do i start? sudo conky?
[04:48] <harriseldon> dhamma you could try copying the module from the live cd to your other system just to verify your hunch (backup the module first of course)
[04:48] <RoshanK> anirudh0: sorry about all the questions
[04:48] <tritium> kelvin911: you're looking for ppd files, remember
[04:48] <kelvin911> tritium: looking
[04:49] <anirudh0> RoshanK: yes..you have to use double buffering to get past the flickering..but there are still some issues under compiz
[04:49] <harriseldon> Ubugegin you must suspend the current process first with ctrl-z this will put you back to the $ prompt. Then type bg
[04:49] <Klick__> Hey all, does anyone know why the unlock button on network-admin is greyed out?  I have to manualy kismet to look for an access point, then iwconfig to it?
[04:49] <hobbzilla> what is a good utility readily available to view file contents including non-printable characters
[04:49] <dhamma> harriseldon: how do i locate that module?
[04:49] <anirudh0> RoshanK: nope...no sudo..conky has a default .conkyrc that should work to begin with...then google for other conkyrc's..or write your own
[04:49] <smehmood> SuN13: although Restricted Devices manager says "In use" if i start up nvidia-settings, it tells me i don't seem to be using the driver. It tells me to run nvidia-xconfig, and restart X. After doing that, it still says i'm not using the driver.
[04:50] <J-a-k-e> anirudh0: http://pastebin.com/m392b674e
[04:50] <RoshanK> anirudh0: ok i found the default under examples and renamed it to .conkyrc after putting it my home holder but can't see anything of conky on the desktop
[04:50] <kelvin911> tritium: can i use the one for mac?
[04:51] <kelvin911> tritium: canon doesnt support linux
[04:51] <tritium> kelvin911: ppd files are fairly universal
[04:51] <SuN13> smehmood: i have as the latest resticted driver : ﻿restricted modules for Linux version 2.6.24.17-generic
[04:51] <RoshanK> anirudh0:: nvm i see it
[04:51] <RoshanK> anirudh0: thank you
[04:52] <tjb> hello everyone.
[04:52] <anirudh0> J-a-k-e: your ubuntu is on hd2..and win on hd1
[04:52] <kelvin911> tritium: am i looking for scangear?
[04:52] <grendal_prime> ok got x working again...that thing installed some weri kernel...a server kernel of some sort...very bazar..anyway..i have this thing happening with kdm...crap..wrong channel for that.
[04:52] <karllenz> how come when i run doom3 my monitor says out of range do i need to change my refresh rate?
[04:53] <kelvin911> tritium: or IJ Printer Driver?
[04:53] <anirudh0> J-a-k-e: that is probably causing the problem..but i have no experience with seperate drives..wait for other people to answer
[04:53] <karllenz> and how do i do that
[04:53] <will00> how do i get one computer to show up under network servers in nautilus on another computer on the same network
[04:53] <harriseldon> dhamma it will be located at /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/snd-cmipci.ko (uname -r will be replaced on the command line with your currently running kernel version)
[04:53] <tritium> kelvin911: i don't know what you have
[04:54] <kelvin911> tritium: Canon MP210
[04:54] <gregbrady> legend2440: yup, all works well!
[04:54] <dhamma> harriseldon: ok...i'll try it...thx for all your help and advice
[04:54] <kelvin911> tritium: i found a .deb file to download
[04:54] <J-a-k-e> well according to device.map
[04:54] <J-a-k-e>  (hd0)	/dev/sda (320 sata)
[04:54] <J-a-k-e> (hd1)	/dev/sdb (160 ide)
[04:54] <J-a-k-e> (hd2)	/dev/sdc (30 ide)
[04:54] <FloodBot3> J-a-k-e: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <legend2440> gregbrady: ok good
[04:55] <smehmood> what's the difference between "Mark for removal" and "Mark for complete removal"
[04:55] <gregbrady> legend2440: adding new programs works wonderful again! Thanks
[04:55] <smehmood> I appear to have versions of the nvidia driver for 2 versions of the kernel (one of which is not in use atm), and I wan't to uninstall that.
[04:55] <l815> can someone help me mount my card reader? (texas instruments 5in1)
[04:55] <legend2440> gregbrady: yw
[04:56] <harriseldon> J-a-k-e did you check here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[04:56] <SuN13> smehmood: yes you need to use the one i specified above for hardy
[04:56] <legend2440> gregbrady: what happened. did computer crash during update?
[04:57] <Nutzebahn> I don't want it to go into standby mode, I just want it to turn off the drives, but leave the other parts on. Can't I do that?
[04:57] <harriseldon> J-a-k-e what is (hd2) then in your menu.lst?
[04:57] <karllenz> anyone screen says out of range when i run doom3??
[04:57] <zSoilworker> yours.
[04:57] <bobboy> !gkrellm
[04:58] <ysth> what are the chances Hardy will get openssh 5.0p1 soon?  or at least 4.8p1?
[04:58] <J-a-k-e> harriseldon: yep, thanks I did try that. Oh i forgot to mention hd2 is my ubuntu drive
[04:58] <zoidberg> guys i need to figure out how to extend or duplicate on a monitor connected to a laptop?
[04:58] <ysth> does Debian have to pave the way?
[04:59] <gregbrady> legend2440: yup, each one.
[04:59] <karllen1> anyone monitor says out of range when i run doom3
[04:59] <harriseldon> Nutzebahn have you looked at Laptop Mode Tools (http://samwel.tk/laptop_mode/) be careful using it on desktop hard drives since they are not designed for the same number of spin-up/spin-downs
[04:59] <Zikiti> Hello, what drivers do I need to load  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG wireless driver?
[04:59] <harriseldon> J-a-k-e does it seem odd that system.map does not have it listed?
[05:00] <adam7> ysth, once the distribution is out, they only provide updates for security, not new features
[05:00] <usser> Zikiti, iwl3945
[05:00] <Nutzebahn> harriseldon: This is a desktop.
[05:00] <legend2440> gregbrady: oh ok. now those files you deleted while using sudo nautilus are probably in your root trash taking up space
[05:00] <Zikiti> thank you
[05:00] <usser> Zikiti, on hardy, ipw3945 on gutsy and older
[05:00] <harriseldon> zoidberg give graphics card details. It would determine what tool to use
[05:00] <Zikiti> hardy here
[05:00] <ysth> adam7: oh, well
[05:00] <ysth> thanks
[05:01] <zoidberg> i have an ati radeon 9000
[05:01] <Zikiti> what repository is this on?
[05:01] <zoidberg> its a dell d600 laptop
[05:01] <gregbrady> legend2440: no worries. Space is not at a premium.  I love the technique you taught me though.  I should be able to fix the other 4 machines now.
[05:01] <zoidberg> i think it should be easy to configure coz back when i had 7.04 it worked
[05:01] <Zikiti> ipw3945, what repo?
[05:01] <legend2440> gregbrady: ok take care
[05:01] <J-a-k-e> harriseldon: it is listed in device.map as (hd2)	/dev/sdc
[05:01] <Zikiti>  iwl3945 sorry
[05:02] <gregbrady> legend2440: I just hope that Ubuntu corrects the problem.
[05:02] <usser> Zikiti, iwl3945 is included in the installation, one thing u might wanna do is install backports package
[05:02] <usser> Zikiti, it has an updated intel driver
[05:02] <harriseldon> Nutzebahn did you do a google search for linux spin down hard drive? There are some tips for using hdparm
[05:02] <Zikiti> ok because I don't seem to have it at all in my installation
[05:02] <matthias_N> hello everybody, where can i find share folder in ubuntu hardy ???
[05:02] <chicobo329> Hey guys I"m in the midst of some stablitity problems. I figure to come in here now before I do a restart to see what can be done. I finished played FCE Ultra emulator and now all of a sudden the sound stopped working and GNOME is acting unstable. The top taskbar will freeze if I press the shutdown button and various programs such as Firefox, the Help menu, and even the terminal will freeze and not load. I'm in 8.04 and I'v
[05:02] <usser> Zikiti, its not in any of the packages this driver is opensource and include in the kernel
[05:03] <Zikiti> Then why isn't my card loading?
[05:03] <Chaotic_Descent> Ktorrent broke on me. I tried to reinstall it (Windows habits) but it won't even run on it's own, and loading a .torrent says it can't talk to klauncher.
[05:03] <usser> Zikiti, the driver is relatively new and unstable, many people report issues with it, try backports package
[05:04] <Zikiti> ok
[05:04] <Leefmc> Question: I used UNetBootin to install Ubuntu from Windows. Now it seemed to work great, though i am unable to check if it made a 2nd partition or anything like that, since i don't know ubuntu, but the main problem is that when i shut ubuntu down, after installing some basic stuff (FF3 Rc1 for example), i rebooted and it was a fresh install.. Anyone know why?
[05:04] <matthias_N> anybody knows hot to set share folders in hardy ???, i do not have sharing when right click on the folder i like to share nor in system->administration ...
[05:04] <harriseldon> J-a-k-e can you post the output of fdisk -l for each of your drives to pastebin? ie sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[05:05] <zoidberg> guys i need to figure out how to extend or duplicate on a monitor connected to a laptop? i have ati radeon 9000 video card ...its a dell latitude d600
[05:05] <usser> zoidberg, the easiest way would be to hook up the monitor and restart X server, that should do duplication
[05:05] <micoh> matthias_n: sudo apt-get install samba
[05:06] <harriseldon> zoidberg are you using the open source or restricted driver?
[05:06] <chicobo329> any help on my problem would be most appreciated, I've had this problem at least two times a day. A restart 'fixes' it, but I want it to stop altogether
[05:06] <Zikiti> usser, still can't se it in the repo... even did a search for 3945
[05:06] <Zikiti> nothing
[05:06] <__> can any one recommend a good wireless card? I'm looking for a ubuntu sported, usb, fast and like a good antenna? and if there are any good deals I'm looking to spend under 75$
[05:06] <matthias_N> micoh:  i already have samba installed but let me try again ...
[05:07] <zoidberg> usser, how do i restart X server
[05:07] <usser> Zikiti, sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-hardy
[05:07] <harriseldon> zoidberg have you tried System-Prefrences-Screen Resolution?
[05:07] <usser> zoidberg, ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:07] <Leefmc> Flannel: You awake?
[05:07] <Zikiti> k
[05:08] <Leefmc> ﻿Question: I used UNetBootin to install Ubuntu from Windows. Now it seemed to work great, though i am unable to check if it made a 2nd partition or anything like that, since i don't know ubuntu, but the main problem is that when i shut ubuntu down, after installing some basic stuff (FF3 Rc1 for example), i rebooted and it was a fresh install.. Anyone know why?
[05:08] <karllen1> ok so it seems i have doom3 working kinda i run it but the my monitor goes black and tells me out of range 43.2 / 85? what do i do to fix that?
[05:08] <zoidberg> harriseldon, i'm not sure...how can i tell
[05:08] <J-a-k-e> harriseldon: ok, give me a moment I just need to finish what im doing here in winxp then i'll restart off the ubuntu live cd
[05:08] <matthias_N> micoh:  i did do i need to restart the computer but still samba is installed but no file sharing visible for he folder i like to share ...
[05:09] <afallenhope> Hoow are things in BC kelvin911 ?
[05:09] <afallenhope> Vancouver nice eh? Speak a lot of french?
[05:10] <kelvin911> what is rpm file?
[05:10] <kelvin911> afallenhope: its shthole
[05:10] <kelvin911> afallenhope: i am trying to make my scanner running here
[05:10] <matthias_N> micoh:  how do i know if samba if running ???
[05:10] <micoh> matthias_N: hmm.. do this:     sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:10] <Leefmc> Anyone? Is there some odd "ubuntu save session" command i need to use each time before shutting down? My last ubuntu session seemed to shut down right, but i lost all of my custimization.
[05:10] <matthias_N> micoh:  ok
[05:10] <afallenhope> kelvin911: well it's because it's a stupid Canadian product lol.
[05:11] <kelvin911> canon canadian?
[05:11] <ekontsevoy> Where is my $EDITOR set? I know that if I want to switch form nano to vim, I can add export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim, but I can't find my current declaration...
[05:11] <kelvin911> afallenhope: how to make canon mp210 to work?
[05:11] <Chaotic_Descent> Why is Ubuntu's mouse slower than Windows? I keep finding myself clicking and dragging, only to find that it's clicked and not dragged.
[05:11] <astro76> ekontsevoy: it's set globally by the alternatives system, sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[05:11] <kelvin911> afallenhope: i forgot to buy papers for the printer
[05:11] <chicobo329> ﻿Hey guys I"m in the midst of some stablitity problems. I figure to come in here now before I do a restart to see what can be done. I finished played FCE Ultra emulator and now all of a sudden the sound stopped working and GNOME is acting unstable. The top taskbar will freeze if I press the shutdown button and various programs such as Firefox, the Help menu, and even the terminal will freeze and not load. I'm in 8.04 and 
[05:11] <kelvin911> afallenhope: dman
[05:11] <chicobo329> any takers? If not I guess I'll restart
[05:12] <l815> where is the setting to change the video rendering ?
[05:12] <ekontsevoy> astro76: thanks, I'll take a look. Is it ubuntu-specific or  debian-specific?
[05:12] <kelvin911> nowadays printers dont come with cables
[05:12] <astro76> ekontsevoy: debian and ubuntu
[05:12] <kelvin911> nor papers
[05:12] <astro76> ekontsevoy: both use it
[05:12] <Chaotic_Descent> like when I try to resize a window, I click and drag, but it doesn't catch the edge because it's too slow. I have to click for a full second before it will register. same with dragging a scroll bar.
[05:13] <matthias_N> micoh: i did and samba is running but no file sharing or sharing option for the folder
[05:13] <__> can any one recommend a good wireless card? I'm looking for a ubuntu sported, usb, fast and like a good antenna? and if there are any good deals I'm looking to spend under 75$
[05:13] <ekontsevoy> astro76: thanks!
[05:13] <__> sry
[05:13] <usser> Chaotic_Descent, u can adjust the mouse settings System->preferences->mouse
[05:13] <__> i didn't wanna send tht
[05:13] <Chaotic_Descent> where do I check that the graphics drivers are installed? I think my roommate mentioned that. something about unauthorized drivers because it's like ATi or something?
[05:14] <micoh> matthias_N: strange.. no option when you right click a folder? maybe try rebooting.. or first try:     sudo nautilus      then try right clicking a folder from there to see if sharing option is there
[05:14] <matthias_N> micoh:  where do you have file sharing on your ubuntu and is it hardy version 8.04
[05:14] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone? Is there some odd "ubuntu save session" command i need to use each time before shutting down? My last ubuntu session seemed to shut down right, but i lost all of my custimization.
[05:14] <usser> Chaotic_Descent, restricted drivers, open a terminal and do glxinfo | grep direct if it says yes you're all set
[05:14] <segfault> hi all
[05:14] <swansk> Anyone else having issues with GUI administrative applications?
[05:14] <micoh> matthias_N: i have sharing options on the right click menu when i right click a folder
[05:15] <Chaotic_Descent> grep direct, or just grep?
[05:15] <segfault> quick networking question....how do i find the ip address of a system in the lan using hostname?
[05:15] <usser> Chaotic_Descent, grep direct
[05:15] <legend2440> swansk: any error messages and when?
[05:15] <Chaotic_Descent> ok, it says yes. thanks.
[05:15] <usser> segfault, use host command
[05:15] <viumden> I have some trouble about my video card radeon 7500
[05:16] <viumden> I use the open source driver
[05:16] <matthias_N> micoh:  i did and it ipoened a folder named root and not my username any thing steange with that or normal ???
[05:16] <segfault> usser: so its host <hostname>...let me try
[05:16] <matthias_N> micoh: but still no sharing at right click on folder encrypt and stuff but not anything about sharing ...
[05:16] <viumden> but when i glxinfo | grep direct ,it says no
[05:16] <micoh> matthias_N: yea.. that is normal.. when you use "sudo nautilus", it will run nautilus with root access
[05:17] <viumden> any one can help me?
[05:17] <hoehaver> hi. I have limewire installed on ubuntu 8.4. how can I change the Defalt Program to open when ezxicuting a preview?
[05:17] <Leefmc> Question: I installed ubuntu, but after changing settings and new programs, it doesn't seem to save them when i shutdown. Anyone know why?
[05:17] <usser> hoehaver, first off install frostwire instead and its in the settings somewhere
[05:18] <matthias_N> micoh:  how can i restart nautilus ??? it says seahorse nautilus module shutdown ...
[05:18] <usser> hoehaver, preview apps in the settings somewhere
[05:18] <micoh> matthias_N: did "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" get a reply saying "Stopping [Ok]" then "Starting [Ok]"?
[05:18] <hoehaver> ok...well..then how do I uninstall limewire?
[05:18] <hoehaver> sudo apt-get remove limewire ?
[05:18] <alan_m> hoehaver, yeah
[05:18] <viumden> I had installed ubuntu8.04 and have some trouble about my video card radeon 7500.but when i glxinfo | grep direct ,it says no.any one can help me?
[05:18] <Chaotic_Descent> mouse threshold settings don't seem like they would help this issue...
[05:18] <micoh> matthias_N: you just issue the command "nautilus" for normal user and "sudo nautilus" for root nautilus
[05:18] <hoehaver> thank you
[05:19] <usser> hoehaver, eh, depends on how u installed it
[05:19] <matthias_N> micoh:  yes i did and it is running sorry the error abouyt seahorse nautilus shutting down was becasue i closed the window ...
[05:19] <billy12> does the write command log?
[05:19] <hoehaver> I installed using a deb package
[05:20] <usser> hoehaver, oh then yes the above was correct
[05:20] <Chaotic_Descent> bleh. no clue. I'll have to see if this changes anything.
[05:20] <micoh> matthias_N: strange.. i don't know why you get no sharing options :(
[05:20] <alan_m> usser, even if they installed it otherwise (using alternate ways) apt-get remove would work, right?
[05:20] <viumden> I had installed ubuntu8.04 and have some troubles about my video card radeon 7500.but when i glxinfo | grep direct ,it says no.any one can help me?my xorg.conf:Section "Device"
[05:20] <viumden> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[05:20] <viumden> 	Boardname	"vesa"
[05:20] <viumden> 	Busid		"PCI:1:0:0"
[05:20] <viumden> 	Driver		"radeon"
[05:20] <FloodBot3> viumden: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <viumden>         Option          "DRI" "on"
[05:20] <tjb> hello everyone, has anyone here successfully installed hamachi on unbuntu?
[05:20] <rpedro> I having flash majorly hog cpu in hardy compared to gutsy, like described on this forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785753&highlight=firefox+beta+crashes+gutsy+hardy
[05:20] <matthias_N> micoh:  it is not avaliable at right click nor on my hard drive nor on my external hard drive, any where else you can find flie sharing ????
[05:21] <usser> alan_m, its not gonna work if its compiled from source or installed using binary installer like a googleearth one
[05:21] <alan_m> usser, ah, yeah, thats true..i forgot about that.
[05:21] <BeOSMrX> does anyone here know what the arch linux channel is ?
[05:21] <micoh> matthias_N: hmm.. are your drives mounted properly? with the proper settings in fstab?
[05:21] <matthias_N> micoh:  let me see ifi can create the launch icon for administration and go that way ...
[05:21] <alan_m> BeOSMrX, did you try #archlinux?
[05:22] <Chaotic_Descent> oh this is lovely. I tried Azureus because Ktorrent stopped responding. I double-clicked on a torrent that wasn't downloading and Azureus closed. When I tried to reopen it, it closed. Now it's broken. Why?
[05:22] <riddlebox> how would I format a sd card if it is not formatted when I put it in the slot?
[05:22] <powertool08> BeOSMrX: http://www.archlinux.org/irc/ lists them all
[05:22] <matthias_N> micoh:  how do i know if mounted properly ??, I assume that they are since i can access my files but you might have a something there ...
[05:22] <usser> viumden, the driver is not radeon its ati now
[05:23] <Leefmc> Question: I installed ubuntu, but after changing settings and new programs, it doesn't seem to save them when i shutdown. Anyone know why?
[05:23] <Kaemon12433> does ubuntu allow users under 18?
[05:23] <alan_m> powertool08, heh, i was just looking that up, you beat me to it :D
[05:23] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, sure :D
[05:23] <BeOSMrX> thank you everyone, ive got it now :)
[05:23] <karllen1> ﻿ok so it seems i have doom3 working kinda i run it but the my monitor goes black and tells me out of range 43.2 / 85? what do i do to fix that?
[05:23] <matthias_N> micoh:  knjow how to read fstab ???
[05:23] <Kaemon12433> k good
[05:23] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, we dont discriminate against age or any such thing.
[05:23] <Kaemon12433> cuz i'm 14
[05:23] <micoh> matthias_N: sec.. let me find a guide for you
[05:24] <matthias_N> micoh: ok
[05:24] <hoehaver> sudo apt-get remove limewire didn't work.
[05:24] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, are you having issues with your ubuntu install?
[05:24] <Kaemon12433> oh
[05:24] <usser> karllen1, look for .doom3 folder in your home directory or something similar, delete it. The folder is hidden. This will reset your graphics settings to defaults.
[05:24] <Kaemon12433> no
[05:24] <Kaemon12433> but i'm having issues with firefox
[05:24] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone? I can't use ubuntu if i am unable to save anything..
,if I changed it to ati,and restart x,the system indicates the wrong configuration
[05:24] <Kaemon12433> it unexpectedly closes on me..when i'm on youtube
[05:25] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, that would be under a topic, anything dealing with ubuntu is cool here, including all applications in it.
[05:25] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: what do you mean "can't save anything" ?
[05:25] <karllen1> ﻿usser: ok i did that
[05:25] <Leefmc> mobiGeek:  Question: I installed ubuntu, but after changing settings and new programs, it doesn't seem to save them when i shutdown. Anyone know why?
[05:25] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, closes unexpectedly? flash issue it sounds like....what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:25] <karllen1> ﻿usser: now try running it?
[05:25] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: what do you mean "can't save anything" ?
[05:25] <swedekid> hey, is there any way to install the zune software on ubuntu using wine or something?
[05:25] <Kaemon12433> hardy heron
[05:26] <usser> viumden, oh rly, that is unexpected... hang on
[05:26] <usser> karllen1, yea try it
[05:26] <Kaemon12433> jus closes like SUDDENLY. dont know whats wrong
[05:26] <Chaotic_Descent> I have Google maps close FireFox every time I try to load directions. Happens on my mom's Ubuntu as well.
[05:26] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, have you done any updates to ubuntu before trying flash and coming here?
[05:26] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: typing.
[05:26] <Kaemon12433> yes
[05:26] <karllenz> ussr: still have black screen
[05:26] <Kaemon12433> fully updated mate
[05:26] <karllenz> same ssue
[05:26] <usser> viumden, can u pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.log
[05:26] <hoehaver> says canti got it
[05:26] <hoehaver> thanks again
[05:26] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, ok, so that narrows that down, hmmmmm.....
[05:26] <alsayyup> hi guys
[05:27] <rpedro> gmail crash firefox3 in hardy everytime I go to close its tab after reading the mail
[05:27] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: you aren't saying anything that I can help with.  You are saying "it doesn't work"....well, WHAT doesn't work...define "not work"...what precisely are you doing?
[05:27] <viumden> usser,wait for a minute
[05:27] <karllenz> usser: same issue still
[05:27] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: I'm typing the explanation, sorry
[05:27] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: k
[05:28] <alan_m> guys, relax in here, lol
[05:28] <micoh> matthias_N: try a google search for "nls=utf8,umask=0222" and you should find several guides to modify your fstab using those settings
[05:28] <Kaemon12433> no solutions yet alan?
[05:28] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, im totally stumped, are you running a 64 bit ubuntu?
[05:28] <Kaemon12433> nope
[05:28] <Kaemon12433> normal version
[05:28]  * alan_m sighs
[05:28] <karllen1> usser: i still have the same issue i can run it in wine but its really choppy and slow
[05:28] <matthias_N> micoh:  thank you, will do ...
[05:28] <Kaemon12433> i have a dell dimension 2350
[05:28] <Leefmc> ﻿﻿mobiGeek: Ok, full story :). I installed ubuntu from Windows via UNetBootin because i am unable to usbboot, and don't have a cd drive. It seemed to work great. I logged onto ubuntu, added FF3, changed some settings, learned some things, etc. However, when i shut down moments ago all seemed fine. I saw no big errors, or anything, although it did ask me to make sure disk trays were closed and hit enter, i did that, and all was well
[05:29] <alan_m> !flash | Kaemon12433
[05:29] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Thats a bit long, hopefully it all fit in.
[05:29] <usser> karllen1, one sec
[05:29] <micoh> matthias_N: sorry i couldn't be more helpful.. hehe.. i'm kinda new to ubuntu.. good luck
[05:29] <alan_m> well, uh, guess that didnt give me what i needed.
[05:29] <Kaemon12433> kk
[05:29] <Kaemon12433> i'll try that
[05:29] <karllen1> usser: and under wine it runs in a small window is it possible to run doom in a small window and not full screen mabye then it willl work
[05:29] <harriseldon> Kaemon12433 have you tried running firefox in safe mode? gmail should stil run fine here
[05:29] <Kaemon12433> nope
[05:29] <Kaemon12433> but
[05:29] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: i got up to "i did that, and all was well"
[05:29] <Kaemon12433> i'll try that dude
[05:29] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, try it :D
[05:29] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, kk
[05:29] <Kaemon12433> thanks i will
[05:30] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: rjr, one sec
[05:30] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, come back with the results, and if it doesnt work, we can try other stuff.
[05:30] <Kaemon12433> you're a cool guy alan..or a cool girl..
[05:30] <Zikiti> usser: Ok the driver is loaded but I can't connect to any wireless network
[05:30] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: ﻿i did that, and all was well. Until i rebooted.. i rebooted, and it wanted the duel boot screen again, which made me choose UNetBootin, which i did, and that apparently either reinstalled Ubuntu, or my original ubuntu didn't save. Any comments on this?
[05:30] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, thanks man, (im a guy)
[05:30] <Zikiti> I'm about to give up... thanks for your help anyway
[05:30] <Kaemon12433> alan dont mind if i stick around here?
[05:30] <Kaemon12433> hope i dont take up too much bandwitdh
[05:31] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok so ##windows channel not so bad considerate people with intuitive solutions, but no closer to fixing my WinWoes lol glad to be back
[05:31] <usser> Zikiti, do u see any networks at all?
[05:31] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, personally i dont care, im not sure of the rule of people hanging out in here...op's?
[05:31] <matthias_N> micoh: that is okey just admitting it is worth a lot ...
[05:31] <kelvin911> anyone knows how to make canon mp210 works in ubuntu?
[05:31] <Zikiti> usser: yes I see them
[05:31] <JonathanEllis> When I boot, my screen goes black for ages. How do I get it to display what it is doing? Scrolling text is reassuring that something is going on rather than the system has died. I tried changing "# defoptions=quiet splash" to﻿ "# defoptions=quiet splash vga=791"  in /boot/grub/menu.lst but then it complains "Undefined video mode number: 317" and gives me options to try other modes which also dont work!
[05:31] <Zikiti> usser: even tried creating my own
[05:31] <Zikiti> not connecting
[05:32] <bobsomebody> thank god! i finally got a stable dual head setup
[05:32] <alan_m> can i get a ruling on Kaemon12433's staying in room and just hanging out guys? (I am not sure of the rule and dont wanna break it)
[05:32] <niuq> there is something like a lan tester for linux?
[05:32] <bobsomebody> 8.04 does not like synergy at all... thats all there is to it
[05:32] <niuq> well ubuntu
[05:32] <JonathanEllis> kelvin911: http://software.canon-europe.com/softw\are/0028481.asp?model=   That is a cups driver for that printer
[05:32] <viumden> usser,there are so much,i try to pick up some:(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] rev 0, Mem @ 0xf0000000/27, 0xe8100000/16, I/O @ 0x3000/8
[05:33] <usser> karllen1, im sorry i cant help u much try issuing this command on the terminal doom3 --help to see maybe some command line switches that allow u to adjust the behaviour
[05:33] <niuq> to test stuffs like, bandwith, kind of packages that travels on the net, etc
[05:33] <usser> viumden, pastebin it
[05:33] <Kaemon12433> so is it ok?
[05:33] <hippie> i cannot seem to get grub installed properly to a new drive I'm using to replace my existing one.  each drive has three partitions (swap, /boot, and /, in order), and i've edited the new drive's fstab to match the new partitions' UUIDs, but when I boot off the new drive I just get the "grub>" prompt instead of the menu my old drive gives.  what should i do next?
[05:33] <usser> !pastebin | viumden
[05:33] <KRaZy_WaKa> well guess i should get back to the task at hand, time to play with APTonCD
[05:33] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, i guess so...*shrug*
[05:33] <Kaemon12433> cool then
[05:33] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, ive got no official ruling from anybody saying otherwise.
[05:33] <karllenz> usser doom--help does the same thing
[05:33] <u007> what happened to ubuntu upgrade for 8.04? my firefox3 is gone and i cant install it!
[05:34] <karllenz> thanks tho
[05:34] <u007> :(
[05:34] <Kaemon12433> true
[05:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> Kaemon12433: what better way to learn than to lurk
[05:34] <viumden> ubottu,tky,got it
[05:34] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Perhaps my C:\ drive has the UNetBootin on it, and thus it rewrites ubuntu whenever i run it? Honestly i have no idea if UNetBootin installed a 2nd partition, because i don't know how to properly run ubuntu, so figuring that out is hard. Is there some added step i missed during this whole ubuntu process?
[05:34] <usser> Zikiti, hm... when u try to connect to one of those, immediately after it fails run dmesg and pastebin its output
[05:34] <Zikiti> So does anyone have an idea? I can see the wireless netwoks but cannot connect to them, also, I don't seem to be able to connect to one that I'm creating
[05:34] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: when you rebooted, was your Ubuntu distro not listed in the boot menu?  You shouldn't be choosing UnetBootin again
[05:34] <Zikiti> ok
[05:34] <usser> karllenz, or doom3 -h
[05:34] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: No it was not
[05:34] <alan_m> KRaZy_WaKa, so...that was a yea?
[05:34] <TeslaTony> Kaemon12433 and alan_m: Do a whois on random members. Half these guys haven't said anything for 8 hours or more
[05:34] <usser> karllenz, also try man doom3
[05:34] <Kaemon12433> k
[05:34] <ethereality> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=681289 can you help me get Serpentine to convert files to .wav?
[05:34] <alan_m> TeslaTony, heh, guess that was my official answer, thanks tony :D
[05:35] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: when you rebooted, did it go straight into windows?
[05:35] <usser> karllenz, this should give u some info on how to launch doom3 with a specific resolution
[05:35] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, thats the answer, hang out :D
[05:35] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: I only had windows, and unetbootin as options.
[05:35] <Kaemon12433> cool i guess
[05:35] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: No, it showed the boot menu (the two options i mentioned)
[05:35] <viumden> usser,http://paste.ubuntu.com/15719/
[05:35] <Kaemon12433> most freindly chat room i've been in so far
[05:35] <karllenz> usser: man doom3 in comand line
[05:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> so long as ya stay on-topic with your posts and watch the language, basically common sense stuff
[05:35] <Kaemon12433> besides the ZSNES one
[05:35] <usser> karllenz, yep
[05:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> hanbg out kick back drink a longneck i am lol
[05:35] <Kaemon12433> well i dont drink
[05:35] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Btw thanks for the help, i hope in time i can contribute back.
[05:35] <Kaemon12433> i'm only 14
[05:35] <karllenz> usser: ok the lat two did the same thing and i gotta log out to stop it everytime
[05:36] <swedekid> ok i just installed virtual box and this is a pretty stupid question but where can i access it?
[05:36] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol ok grab a juicebox or CapriSun
[05:36] <Kaemon12433> umm
[05:36] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, all i do ask is we dont start general discussion in here..dont wanna confuse all the lovely folks in here trying to get help :)
[05:36] <Kaemon12433> ok!
[05:36] <hippie> (we could be confused more?)
[05:36] <karllenz> usser: man 7 undocumented
[05:36] <TeslaTony> #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:36] <alan_m> haha, point taken hippie :D
[05:36] <Kaemon12433> ohhh
[05:36] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: hmmm...i don't see what boot manager gets installed by this thing.
[05:37] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, yeah #ubuntu-offtopic or.....
[05:37] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: once you've run the installer for ubuntu, you no longer want to run UNetbootin.  You want to reboot and tell your machine to boot into Ubuntu.
[05:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> amen on that alan_m i'm guilty of straying off-topic on occasion but it spawns from on-topic discussion generally but i'm done now lol
[05:37] <swedekid> does no one know?
[05:37] <alan_m> lol ;D
[05:37] <mobiGeek> I just am not sure which boot mgr is being used that you need to tell it to boot from the other partition (the Ubuntu one)
[05:37] <ethereality> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=681289 can you help me get Serpentine to convert files to .wav?
[05:37] <truedego> when i boot up my computer its telling me that it cant find a an image and it boots from a backup image, anyone know what is going on?
[05:37] <viumden> usser,http://paste.ubuntu.com/15720/
[05:37] <usser> viumden, try removing lines from 41 to 52, back it up first
[05:38] <usser> karllenz, i dunno google doom3 comand line linux
[05:38] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Maybe uninstalling the UNetBootin is a requirement. "Removal is only required if you used the "Hard Drive" installation mode;"
[05:38] <karllenz> usser: ok
[05:38] <Kaemon12433> i'm trying to get the other peoples in this house to install ubuntu
[05:38] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ under removal instructions
[05:38] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Am i reading that right?
[05:39] <Kaemon12433> hey i have a prob
[05:39] <alan_m> Kaemon12433, yes?
[05:39] <Kaemon12433> ubuntu does'nt save certain setting when i shut it down
[05:39] <Kaemon12433> i have it on save session
[05:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol good luck Kaemon, been trying to get everyone i know to switch but they are too dead set in their ways
[05:39] <mobiGeek> leefmc: yes, likely.  but it doesn't tell us how to get to the installed distro after you remove it.
[05:39] <Kaemon12433> lol waka
[05:40] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Hopefully it will set ubuntu as the default.
[05:40] <zoidberg> hey guys i upgraded to 8.04 and my desktop effects dont' work...it sayass desktop effects cannot be enabled....i have a dell d600 lattitude laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 video card...any help?
[05:40] <alan_m> waka, same problem here :/
[05:40] <usser> viumden, the log file seems fine, try to strip your xorg.conf of all the unneeded options
[05:41] <usser> viumden, remove lines 41 to 52 and restart xorg
[05:41] <Kaemon12433> those config files kill me
[05:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> what is the ubuntu offtopic channel? wonder whats going on in there never been there myself
[05:41] <viumden> usser,there are four files refered to xorg:xorg.0.log xorg.0.log.old xorg.9.log xorg.9.log.old and i just past xorg.conf athttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15719/ and xorg.0.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/15720/
[05:41] <u007> ...
[05:41] <zSoilworker> we have the most fun.
[05:41] <u007> ubuntu upgrade sux :(
[05:41] <Kaemon12433> i accidently crashed my system yesterday trying to reconfigure the updates
[05:41] <zSoilworker> All the hip kids are doing it.
[05:42] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: good luck with it...i gotta beddies...big mtgs in the AM.  nights.
[05:42] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Stupid question i'm sure, but how do i run a bin file? I downloaded the UNetBootin installer (which removes it aswell i believe) and its some "bin"
[05:42] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: K, me too.. heh
[05:42] <usser> viumden, yes i've seen those... log seems fine no errors, read what i wrote above
[05:42] <micoh> KRaZy_WaKa: i just moved my office over to ubuntu hardy.. so far no problems.. openoffice works just like ms office so i guess they adjusted pretty quick
[05:42] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Thanks for the help :)
[05:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol zSoilworker are they your Ubuntu missionary tactics?
[05:42] <mobiGeek> leefmc: bin?  i'm not sure.
[05:43] <KRaZy_WaKa> micoh: hardest part is convincing them to try it, after you get ppl to try it they're hooked
[05:43] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ click download
[05:43] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: linux
[05:43] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: the page says that if you boot into Windows you'll be prompted to remove UNetBootin
[05:43] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Oh i was thinking it was to be done from linux
[05:43] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: yes, .bin is a "binary" that can only be run on linux, not windows.
[05:43] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: I'll try that then
[05:44] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Yes but how do you run them :)
[05:44] <Leefmc> mobiGeek:  It tells me i need to assign an application to run it
[05:44] <hacim> sooo... i put in my login/password, and then just brown screen, nothing
[05:45] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: you don't want to downlaod the Linux version of unetbootin, you want to download the windows one as you are running unetbootin from an existing Windows system.
[05:45] <KRaZy_WaKa> micoh: Congrats on that... shouldnt be hard to convert any business especially office environments ubuntu comes with complete productivity out of the box, and saves the company money
[05:45] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Ok, thanks then :)
[05:46] <Jalathan> Q: Has anyone had issues with flashplugin-nonfree and sound under Hardy?
[05:46] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: I'll figure out the bin thing later (just as a "thing to know"), thanks for all your help man! Imma try booting into windows since i gatta get to bed.. work in the morning.
[05:46] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Thanks again!
[05:46] <usser> Jalathan, install flashplugins-nonfree-pulse and flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[05:46] <viumden> usser,I had restarted x,but still "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[05:46] <usser> !flashplugin-nonfree
[05:46] <braniff> how do i set up my blackberry to vpn to a private network ?
[05:47] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol love that response
[05:47] <mobiGeek> braniff: what do you mean "vpn to a private network".
[05:47] <mobiGeek> braniff: what do you want to do over this VPN connection?
[05:48] <braniff> mobiGeek: i want to stream music from my home network to my blackberry over 3G cellular network
[05:48] <Jalathan> usser, are they in the mythbuntu repos?
[05:48] <viumden> usser,does the open source driver support dri for my ati 7500m?
[05:48] <mobiGeek> braniff: are you using a BES?
[05:48] <usser> Jalathan, no should be in standard
[05:49] <usser> viumden, yes it should
[05:49] <braniff> mobiGeek: not currently - is there an OSS BES server ?
[05:49] <Jalathan> hrm, they are referred to by another package, but are not in there
[05:49] <mobiGeek> braniff: LOL   ... no, there is Very Much not an OSS BES
[05:49] <usser> viumden, can u do sudo glxinfo | grep direct see if thats any different
[05:49] <viumden> usser,here is my glxinfo results:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15721/
[05:49] <akatsuki> hello guys, i just move from sabayon to ubuntu.. sabayon use gentoo so i use emerge.. what would be the emerge of ubuntu?
[05:49] <mobiGeek> braniff: the BlackBerry is a very different device than other handhelds when it comes to network access
[05:50] <braniff> mobiGeek: tell me more pls
[05:50] <usser> viumden, try to run the command as sudo
[05:50] <usser> viumden, sudo glxinfo see if thats any different
[05:50] <mobiGeek> braniff: so you have a "personal" blackberry (i.e. not tied to an account at your work) ?
[05:50] <braniff> mobiGeek: yes
[05:51] <akatsuki>  hello guys, i just move from sabayon to ubuntu.. sabayon use gentoo so i use emerge.. what would be the emerge of ubuntu?
[05:51] <mobiGeek> braniff: who is your data provider?  Verizon? T-Mobile? Rogers? ....
[05:51] <akatsuki> i mean how do i install programs from terminal?
[05:51] <viumden> usser,I did it and nothing seems changed
[05:51] <braniff> mobiGeek: tmobile
[05:51] <trask> akatsuki:  apt-get
[05:51] <harriseldon> akatsuki ubuntu is debian based and uses deb packages. Look oneline for apt-get or aptitude
[05:51] <akatsuki> apt-get
[05:51] <akatsuki> install?
[05:51] <trask> yup
[05:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> ah speaking of mythbuntu/myth tv, how does it work what kind of channels do you get? does it get the same type channels as cable/satellite companies? or internet tv like miro?
[05:51] <akatsuki> for example in gentoo.. to search for a program.. we use.. emerge -S
[05:52] <akatsuki> how can i search before install it?
[05:52] <lonely_girl> hy???
[05:52] <mobiGeek> braniff: http://freeiphoner.com/blackberry-8300-curve-but-i-cant-stream-musicradio/
[05:52] <trask> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:52] <trask> thats a normal example
[05:52] <akatsuki> to search for every version of that particular software i want to install
[05:52] <kelvin911> do i follow the steps here to install canon mp210? http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntulinuxusersgroup/browse_thread/thread/86528f97840ceceb
[05:52] <mobiGeek> braniff: what streaming player do you plan on using?
[05:52] <akatsuki> on gentoo we use emerge -S (name of program).. on ubuntu what would be?
[05:53] <harriseldon> akatsuki apt-cache search
[05:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> wonder if this will work sim sim salibim !mythbuntu
[05:53] <trask> you mean search? i usually just try tabcomplete :)
[05:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol guess not
[05:53] <braniff> mobiGeek: i have berrytunes - works great
[05:53] <viumden> usser,I also did "glxgears",the mark is aroud 667fps,is that normal?
[05:53] <ce023> good
[05:54] <braniff> mobiGeek: the problem is vpn to home network with my blackberry
[05:54] <hacim> any ideas of things to look at to debug why login doesn't work? just goes to a brown screen
[05:54] <usser> viumden, glxgears is not a benchmark, its impossible to tell if thats normal or not
[05:54] <mobiGeek> braniff: k, just a sec
[05:54] <usser> viumden, im sorry im lost, dunno what to do, did u try restricted drivers?
[05:54] <KRaZy_WaKa> how do i make ubottu tell me about stuff? and is their a list of stuff i can make ubottu tell me or anyone else needing support for that matter
[05:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> wassup nickrud
[05:55] <usser> KRaZy_WaKa, put "!" in front of a term u want explained
[05:55] <akatsuki> harriseldon how to remove a program using terminal?
[05:55] <JonathanEllis> ﻿When I boot, my screen goes black for ages. How do I get it to display what it is doing? Scrolling text is reassuring that something is going on rather than the system has died. I tried changing "# defoptions=quiet splash" to﻿ "# defoptions=quiet splash vga=791"  in /boot/grub/menu.lst but then it complains "Undefined video mode number: 317" and gives me options to try other modes which also dont work!
[05:55] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa not a whole heck of a lot
[05:55] <usser> !bot-snack
[05:55] <akatsuki> apt-get remove?
[05:55] <usser> !snack
[05:55] <viumden> usser,restricted drivers seems not support the old 7500 for xorg7.3
[05:56] <harriseldon> akatsuki yes
[05:56] <elninja> This may be a dumb question, but I'm trying to setup my wireless card to use the b43 module/driver. I have compiled the module, and loaded it via "modprobe b43", but I don't know how to setup the interface.
[05:56] <mobiGeek> braniff: can you not just stream the files through regular HTTP ?
[05:56] <hacim> JonathanEllis: having same problem
[05:56] <nickrud> !helpersnack | usser
[05:56] <KRaZy_WaKa> i tried to do it with some pizazz courtesy of hadji from johnny quest for mythbuntu and it didnt work lol
[05:56] <KRaZy_WaKa> sim sim saabim !mythbuntu
[05:56] <usser> viumden, i see, im sorry then.
[05:56] <usser> :)
[05:56] <braniff> mobiGeek: heh yeah i guess i could
[05:57] <mobiGeek> braniff: assuming a VPN connection is possible, how do you envision getting access to the files?  VPN just gives you a secure tunnel, but it doesn't say how you get the files to your device.
[05:57] <nickrud> note, you only deserve one, you gotta provide your own :)
[05:57] <KRaZy_WaKa> lmfao that thing is ingenius, gott give the creator 10 points for comc relief
[05:57] <akatsuki> heee
[05:57] <viumden> usser,thank you all the same
[05:57] <akatsuki> i cant even go root in ubuntu! wth
[05:58] <akatsuki> how i go root using ubuntu?
[05:58] <Starnestommy> akatsuki: sudo
[05:58] <akatsuki> its not su?
[05:58] <braniff> mobiGeek: would set up an OSS music streaming server on local net
[05:58] <Lokii-> sudo -s
[05:58] <akatsuki> sudo?
[05:58] <Ahadiel_> akatsuki, sudo su
[05:58] <Starnestommy> !sudo
[05:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> !mythbuntu | sim sim salabim
[05:58] <mobiGeek> braniff: according to the writeup, it seems that you have to have the files on your local SD card (or local memory)....or you can stream a selected number of streaming radio stations.
[05:58] <Lokii-> sudo -s | enter pass | now you have root term
[05:58] <mobiGeek> braniff: I can't see anything indicating that it can accept streams from an arbitrary server
[05:59] <akatsuki> thanks
[05:59] <KRaZy_WaKa> haha i like it johnny quest and ubottu an entertaining combination
[05:59] <mobiGeek> braniff: it does say "stream and store from a website", but I suspect they really mean "download from a website"
[05:59] <braniff> mobiGeek: can "add station" and put in arbitrary URL to streaming music server
[05:59] <akatsuki> does anyone try before ubunto on the ps3??
[05:59] <akatsuki> how it runs?
[05:59] <akatsuki> smooth?
[05:59] <akatsuki> i may do it later
[05:59] <Lokii-> nope
[06:00] <Lokii-> never tried
[06:00] <akatsuki> i will try it later
[06:01] <mobiGeek> braniff: but you still need to let your provider's BIS (BlackBerry Internet Server) get access to your streams.  Because the BB device doesn't *really* do network access.  It uses a BES or a BIS to get the data and then it uses RIM.NET (which is a different type of network) to transfer the data to your device.
[06:01] <joshual> hey folks, how do I setup ubuntu to play more than one audio at the same time?
[06:01] <KRaZy_WaKa> akatsuki: i've looked into it, Sony was actually doing work with YDL Yellow Dog Linux, that was supposed to come with the PS3
[06:02] <braniff> mobiGeek: doesnt bb now have tcp/ip stack ? or is that just a hack on top of the rest ?
[06:02] <KRaZy_WaKa> yes nickrud i know he left this time lol
[06:02] <mobiGeek> braniff: so I'd say put your files under Apache and expose it to the 'net.  Then you should be able to stream those.
[06:02] <karllenz> ok now my screen is all messed up i type displayconfig-gtk set my settings to my lcd model and the resolution and refresh rate i want hit ok log out and in and my resolution doesnt change
[06:03] <mobiGeek> braniff: the BB device does not really have a TCP stack...at least not the way you and I would think of it.
[06:03] <braniff> mobiGeek: knowing all of what you say... what is the best handheld mobile computing platform that is also a phone ?
[06:03] <karllenz>  the graphics card tab it says none mm
[06:04] <mobiGeek> braniff: The BB device fires TCP requests to the BIS/BES which in turn uses the MDS (Mobile Data Service, a sub-server to the BIS/BES) to actually fetch the data and hand it back to BIS/BES for communicating to the BB.
[06:04] <usser> braniff, eeepc
[06:04] <mobiGeek> braniff: the blackberry!  :-)
[06:05] <viumden> and I also have some troubles in installing the adobe air application twhirl.everything goes well when I in my first time installing it,but one day i just concidentally delete the /opt directory by fault,so all the files about adobe air and its application lost,but after i reinstall the adobe air I foud the twhirl application just can't be installed.The installer told me that the twhirl install file which I download from the offical site is damaged.I had
[06:05] <viumden>  re-download the files many times but the error persists,any one has an idea to solve this problem?
[06:05] <mobiGeek> braniff: it all depends on your requirements.  I love the BB because I can do network stuff with it (though there are limitations if you are going through a BIS, the BES has much more functionality).
[06:06] <mobiGeek> braniff: and the BB is an extremely secure device, enforcing secure communications between the BB and the BIS/BES. So anyone sniffing the radio signal gets nothing but noise.  That is not the case with Palm, CE, Symbian, etc...
[06:06] <mobiGeek> braniff: so you need to determine what "best handheld computing platform" means.
[06:07] <braniff> mobiGeek: i have liked my blackberry curve so far but i would still like to vpn somehow
[06:07] <foureyes779> can anyone tell me how to boot my Ubuntu install from the CD ?
[06:07] <braniff> mobiGeek: even though i can stream music using apache like you said
[06:07] <mobiGeek> braniff: the BB is actually a very low-powered device.  Palm/CE/etc... are typically much more powerful, more memory, and closer to a "computer"...but that doesn't necessarily make them "better".
[06:07] <Zikiti> usser, one more time... ican't get net access right now but in my message log all I see is this: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[06:07] <Zikiti> f
[06:08] <foureyes779> I installed it on my computer, then installed another OS (FreeBSD), and now cant boot into Ubuntu. I would rather have lilo if at all possible
[06:08] <nickrud> foureyes779 why do you need to boot it from the cd? (what you're trying to accomplish makes a difference here, probably)
[06:08] <braniff> mobiGeek: i'd love a 3G linux phone
[06:08] <nickrud> foureyes779 boot up from bsd, and add ubuntu to lilo under bsd maybe?
[06:08] <mobiGeek> braniff: but what is it you are trying to get via "vpn" ?  establishing a VPN doesn't give you anything....you still need to access services.  What services are you after?
[06:09] <foureyes779> nickrud: freebsd uses soething called boot0
[06:09] <foureyes779> I would rather use lilo though, and want to boot into Ubuntu. can the install CD be used to boot an installed system ?
[06:09] <Zikiti> usser, as I was saying... "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready" is the message I see
[06:09] <usser> Zikiti, thats not enough...arrg. ok do sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers
[06:10] <usser> Zikiti, then head on to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[06:10] <clownzz> @L!nK
[06:10] <braniff> mobiGeek: i think a vpn would generally be more secure than exposing my home network to "the internet" - i have zero internet facing services now. If i exposed apache then i would orders of magnitude more vulnerable to hackers
[06:10] <frenzy42> sudo apt-get install life
[06:10] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Quick Q, which Ubuntu should i be installing for what i described last time, Alternate or Desktop?
[06:10] <usser> Zikiti, and follow the instructions on that site
[06:11] <Zikiti> Well thank you for the link but I'll fight witht his anther time... I don't have "Internet" access right now
[06:11] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: desktop
[06:11] <nickrud> foureyes779 hm. well, an option to get things up and running under grub is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , and http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-02/0470.html wil help with lilo (I'd recomend grub, even though I wrote the lilo thing)
[06:11] <Zikiti> tahnks anyway
[06:11] <usser> Zikiti, oh ok no problem
[06:11] <mobiGeek> braniff: yes, but what services do you want your BB accessing?
[06:11] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Bummer, thats what i did do. I still have no ubuntu option for booting.
[06:11] <Spaise> sup, im confussed on summin, all of a sudden i cant use root console, add/remove, synaptics, or anything to do with administration, any ideas someone?
[06:11] <Yachaziel> Where is the xorg.conf file?
[06:12] <foureyes779> nickrud: tnx
[06:12] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Any quick thoughts? Otherwise i'll just have to save it for another day i guess :)
[06:12] <co> ]l-0kl-
[06:12] <Yachaziel> Spaise: Using the right password?
[06:12] <Spaise> yes
[06:12] <Spaise> wont even open console
[06:12] <Spaise> *cant
[06:12] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: you went to bed  :-)  so there's something about configuring the boot manager to allow booting the second partition.  I just don't know enough about boot managers to help.
[06:12] <Yachaziel> Spaise: Is the computer plugged in? =P (Just kidding!)
[06:12] <Spaise> haha
[06:12] <Spaise> :D
[06:12] <legend2440> Yachaziel: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:12] <Yachaziel> legend2440: Thanks!
[06:13] <braniff> mobiGeek: streaming music mainly though there are text documents i need sometimes away from home
[06:13] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Infact, i am not even sure if ubuntu was even installed on a separate partition. I have no idea if windows would see this 2nd partition in its manager or not.
[06:13] <Zikiti> One comment though, on gutsy I didn't have any problems whatsoever... I'm tired of "Upgrading" and getting f*kd. Why can't something that worked before continue to work properly without expert knowledge?
[06:13] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Well that was the intention.. but its killing me haha
[06:13] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: one idea woudl be to let the install clobber your entire Windows OS.  That is, let Ubuntu install onto the entire drive.
[06:13] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Yea but i need the duel
[06:13] <trance_techau> hi all, about to buy a new system for my primary system. was wondering which graphics card brand is better. i'm currently running ati and know that nvidia were typically better. but recently i hear ati has gone open source or something. i don't play games just basic user
[06:13] <Spaise> meh anyone?
[06:14] <legend2440> swansk: still here?
[06:14] <usser> Zikiti, see the thing is gutsy used proprietary ipw3945 driver which was pretty good but it was closed hardy decided that opensource iwl3945 was ready when apparently it wasnt
[06:14] <achandrashekar>  helo. I am trying to do an install over pxe. and copied the contents of an 8.04 cd into the /var/www/ubuntu8.04 directory. However after pxe booting a system and pointing the pxe client to the address and path /ubuntu8.04/ it complains that it cannot continue. Any ideas?
[06:14] <deadsouls> is there a utility to set macros in gnome?
[06:14] <achandrashekar> i have already installed apache as well
[06:14] <usser> Zikiti, pissed me off to but it was still a right decision u'll get better support for OSS driver on the long run
[06:14] <mobiGeek> braniff: so you are talking about exposing web and files?  The BB isn't really all that good at "general computing".  It is fantastic email and PIM, and some limited custom applications.
[06:15] <Zikiti> I hope so
[06:15] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: well, you are in a bit of a pickle.  not sure what to say.
[06:15] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Thanks for trying :)
[06:15] <nickrud> trance_techau then any 1 or 2 year old card ati or nvidia card will do, really. nvidia is claimed to have the best right now, and ati has opened up some. Still waiting on the bennies, imho
[06:15] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: i missed the earlier part
[06:16] <arrrghhh> so i'm not at home right now, but my roomie said my computer is no longer working... i can ssh to it and reboot it, but x11vnc doesn't ever work.  i looked at top and kdm is taking 100% of the processor constantly, and my roomie said the monitor shows nothing - like it's off.  what happened?!?
[06:16] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: your machine has no CD?
[06:16] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: Yea
[06:16] <braniff> mobiGeek: maybe i should look at some other platform? i need more power heh - something that runs linux
[06:16] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: In theory, it all installed fine.. im just confused how to get the duel booting working.
[06:16] <Spaise> sup, im confussed on summin, all of a sudden i cant use root console, add/remove, synaptics, or anything to do with administration, any ideas someone?
[06:17] <mobiGeek> braniff: the BB is great if you have a BES.  It is quite limited to the native apps when you are stuck with BIS.
[06:17] <obf213> anybody here using a laptop with external monitor get ubuntu to give an extended desktop
[06:17] <trance_techau> nickrud> yeah i have x600 atm. seems a bit jerky with compiz enabled
[06:17] <nickrud> arrrghhh I'd try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:17] <karllen1> ok i got my screen backtogether but had to reconfig x...now im unable to start extra graphics
[06:17] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: yep.  you might try #linux...they tend to have more die-hard installer dudes hanging out there.
[06:17] <karllen1> my card drivers are enabled
[06:17] <Leefmc> mobiGeek: K thx
[06:17] <Jalathan> ussr, thanks! i googled for it, and found it in a debian repo.
[06:18] <joshual> hey folks, how do I setup ubuntu to play more than one audio at the same time?
[06:18] <mobiGeek> Leefmc: though you are trying to do somethign few die-hards even want to do: keep a windows dual-bootable
[06:18] <SomeNick> hi
[06:18] <usser> Jalathan, what frostwire?
[06:18] <Yachaziel> How do I view my current video drivers?
[06:18] <SomeNick> i wanted to report that releases.ubuntu.com is offline suddenly... how comes?
[06:18] <nickrud> trance_techau yeah, it's useless on my x1100 also. I leave compiz alone on my laptop
[06:18] <braniff> yeah - windows is useless
[06:18] <Yachaziel> braniff: You can say that again!
[06:18] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone else know? I installed Ubuntu via UNetBootin on a 2nd partition. Went into ubuntu and all was fine, then back into windows to remove UNetBootin as directed. Now however, i can't find/gain access to Ubuntu
[06:19] <trance_techau> yep so thats why i'm getting a new card this round of upgrades
[06:19] <Frogzoo> Yachaziel: glxinfo
[06:19] <trance_techau> hence my question
[06:19] <Jalathan> twas talking about the flash audio issue... <.<;;
[06:19] <arrrghhh> nickrud, i don't understand what happened... but i restarted the kdm like you said, and it's no longer taking 100% cpu but i still can't get into the machine.
[06:19] <nickrud> trance_techau I've heard some talk about good xorg.conf options for ati cards, but never looked for them
[06:19] <braniff> Leefmc: installing grub might fix your problems
[06:19] <usser> Jalathan, oh, right
[06:19] <Jalathan> np
[06:19] <Yachaziel> Thanks Frogzoo
[06:19] <Leefmc> braniff: Google "grub"?
[06:19] <kamiro87> Hello, I'm having some problems with visualization using qemu and kvm-amd. i have modprobed the kvm-amd kernel module but when i run qemu with the option -kernel-kqemu it says that kernel-kqemu is an unknown argument
[06:19] <SomeNick> Linux might be great or wathever but
[06:20] <SomeNick> I cant download at all from releases.ubuntu.com
[06:20] <nickrud> arrrghhh is X running?  ps -A | grep Xorg
[06:20] <braniff> Leefmc: you probably need a linux boot cd with grub-install on it
[06:20] <Yachaziel> Frogzoo: How do I use that command?
[06:20] <SomeNick> is it common for that site to get off service frequently?
[06:20] <Leefmc> braniff: No can do, no cd heh
[06:20] <nickrud> arrrghhh I better warn you right now, I ssh into machines, but don't forward X over networks, so I won't be able to give you more than really basic assistance
[06:20] <legend2440> if i PM someone and they are still online but away from computer. if i log off will they still get pm when they return?
[06:21] <braniff> Leefmc: you have a floppy drive ?
[06:21] <Starnestommy> legend2440: yes
[06:21] <tonewhy> hi can someone help me with my printer/scaner? i'm trying to use xsane and it says failed to opend device 'hpaio:/par/PSC_500?decive=/dev/parport0':Device busy.   this is HP PSC 500 printer/scaner
[06:21] <legend2440> Starnestommy: ok  ty
[06:21] <Leefmc> braniff: Laptop, cd is broken, and usbboot is not an option :/
[06:21] <mhz128> How do I edit the the list of apps that launch automatically at bootup
[06:21] <mhz128> ?
[06:21] <arrrghhh> nickrud, yea looks like X isn't running.  i don't get wth happened.  they said they left the room, came back and the monitor was just off.  i think i'm just gonna have to wait until tomorrow when i'm home.
[06:21] <SomeNick> great im out of luck... I needed Ubuntu 7.10 before saturday but from the looks of it I wont before 3 or 4 weeks
[06:21] <trance_techau> nickrud> HD3870 or 8600GT thats baiscally more shortlist. but ati or nvidia
[06:21] <mwansa> Hey when i run a specific theme i get >> dvanc(gtk-chtheme:25436): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine"
[06:21] <Yachaziel> !bum | mhz128
[06:21] <mwansa> i have murrina installed from source
[06:22] <braniff> Leefmc: can take your laptop hdd out, connect it to a desktop and then install grub on it
[06:22] <nickrud> trance_techau never used either. I'm installing ubuntu on a machine with a 8500gt tomorrow, I'll know more then
[06:22] <tonewhy> i'm trying to use xsane and it says failed to opend device 'hpaio:/par/PSC_500?decive=/dev/parport0':Device busy.   this is HP PSC 500 printer/scaner
[06:22] <tonewhy> help please?
[06:22] <KRaZy_WaKa> SomeNick: dload and burn the image
[06:22] <mhz128> Yachaziel: cool thanks!
[06:22] <Frogzoo__> Yachaziel: try instead: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:22] <Yachaziel> mhz128: Hope that helps! =D
[06:23] <SomeNick> krazy waka: from where? releases.ubuntu.com is dead. totally.
[06:23] <Spaise> ahh ive got it. my hostname didnt match in host tab to what my hostname actually is
[06:23] <KRaZy_WaKa> one moment
[06:23] <SomeNick> I had getright downloading it and it died at 98% of the download.
[06:23] <nickrud> SomeNick it's not dead, I can see it here
[06:23] <SomeNick> (it wouldnt be me if it didnt die seconds before completing, ya know)
[06:23] <frenzy42> does anyone here use VNC
[06:24] <nickrud> SomeNick oh, that would suck
[06:24] <SomeNick> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[06:24] <SomeNick> is that place available?
[06:24] <arrrghhh> nickrud, yea i just rebooted again, and X is not running.
[06:24] <KRaZy_WaKa> SomeNick: http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/ Very Fast Mirror, took me 20 or 30 minutes I think tops to dload 8.04
[06:24] <SomeNick> I cantuse 8.04
[06:24] <nickrud> SomeNick SomeNick https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors also
[06:25] <Yachaziel> Ok, I am having trouble with my graphics in a certain program - Wine - (but I'm not getting any help there), can anyone help me with this? Here is a layout of my drivers. I know the problem lies with 3D accel. and my drivers, well... I think I know.
[06:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> they have 7.10 as well i believe
[06:25] <SomeNick> my retarded teacher at college (we have something personal against each other) wants Ubuntu 71.0 for the course
[06:25] <arrrghhh> and kdm is taking 100% of my cpu... i really want to know what happened.
[06:25] <SomeNick> ok I will try that, thanks
[06:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> tell him to get it himself?
[06:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol
[06:25] <frenzy42> you can order 7.10 on cd
[06:25] <frenzy42> order a bunch free for the class
[06:26] <BhaalWK> Has edgy reached EOL?
[06:26] <SomeNick> frenzy: yes but will it get in like... 8 hours? ;-)
[06:26] <frenzy42> and pass them out
[06:26] <frenzy42> um
[06:26] <frenzy42> no
[06:26] <arrrghhh> do they still ship 7.10 cds?
[06:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> was downloading at 100Kbps plus for me I live in PA US
[06:26] <frenzy42> i think so?
[06:26] <frenzy42> well where are you some nick
[06:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> i run 3Meg DSL from Verizon
[06:27] <KRaZy_WaKa> that should give you an idea of how long it will take for you to get from that mirror
[06:27] <frenzy42> somenick: where are you at?
[06:27] <mhz128> When searching for files using 'locate file.txt' how come I am not shown any results? I just get returned to the prompt
[06:28] <Housefly7k> my hp pavillion used to be able to control both the volume of the speakers and the volume of headphones with the buttons on the keyboard....now it only controls the volume of the speakers and doesnt affect the headphones....I dont believe I did anything to change this....any odeas why?
[06:28] <SomeNick> well at least it is downloading now
[06:28] <frenzy42> Housefly: did you upgrade or anything?
[06:28] <SomeNick> had to start over from 0% oh well
[06:28] <britta> Hi, New here and not too familiar with linux. (ubuntu 7.1) I have probs updating. Can somebody pls. help?
[06:28] <SomeNick> at 256 Kbps should be ready by tomorrow
[06:28] <usser> mhz128, do sudo updatedb
[06:28] <nickrud> mhz128 the locate db only gets rebuilt once a day,  you can run   sudo updatedb to  update it manually
[06:29] <Housefly7k> frenzy42:  nope, this is still hardy
[06:29] <KRaZy_WaKa> SomeNicl: you should have it within the hour
[06:29] <arrrghhh> is there a voice that says "system fail" with ubuntu?  i don't get wth happened... i'm really freakin out.
[06:29] <frenzy42> If somenick was in the SF bay area, i would have him come to my place and pick up the cd LOL!
[06:29] <arrrghhh> it still doesn't look like X is running, and kdm is taking 100% cpu.
[06:29] <KRaZy_WaKa> *SomeNick even
[06:29] <SomeNick> Krazy_Waka: Not so early, my connection is slow. But it seems to be downloading fast, so I should have it relatively fast. :-) thanks
[06:29] <frenzy42> Housefly: you have to reassign the buttons, i'm not sure how to do that
[06:29] <tonewhy> hi can someone help me with my printer/scaner? i'm trying to use xsane and it says failed to opend device 'hpaio:/par/PSC_500?decive=/dev/parport0':Device busy.   this is HP PSC 500 printer/scaner
[06:30] <frenzy42> Housefly: try unplugging you keyboard and pluggin it back in
[06:30] <SomeNick> frenyz42: hehe yeah
[06:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> SomeNick: it was running about the same for me dloading Hardyt 30 minutes tops
[06:30] <mhz128> nickrud: ok, I used sudo updatedb but still nothing... I was searching for the location of menu.1st with locate... still no results
[06:30] <frenzy42> somenick: just come into class with DSL on a disk
[06:30] <SomeNick> i have 256 Kb connection (tops)....
[06:30] <nickrud> mhz128 its menu.lst , L not 1
[06:30] <frenzy42> and acted suprised
[06:31] <mhz128> OOPS
[06:31] <legend2440> mhz128: /boot/gru/menu.lst
[06:31] <legend2440> mhz128: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:31] <SomeNick> the dream of my life is to have an E2
[06:31] <nickrud> legend2440 hahahaha
[06:31] <tonewhy> does anyone know how to get my scanner working?
[06:31] <KRaZy_WaKa> SomeNick: I bookmarked that mirror lol fastest one i found so far, i canceled like 5 HArdy downloads while mirror surfing to find the fastest
[06:31] <SomeNick> or some Satellite connection ;-)
[06:31] <tonewhy> i have a hp psc 500
[06:31]  * mhz128 thanks!
[06:31] <SomeNick> krazy: yup it is dling quite fast ;-)
[06:31] <Housefly7k> frenzy42: this is a laptop...the keys arent actually on the keyboard they ar eon the laptop itself :)
[06:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> Satellite sucks, well Latency wise anyways
[06:32] <frenzy42> Oh haha
[06:32] <britta> ok, sorry. Perhaps somebody can tell me where to go to get help with ubuntu 7.10?
[06:32] <frenzy42> um
[06:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> 3M max dload for me but i NEVER see it
[06:32] <nickrud> britta this is the place to ask about 7.10
[06:32] <SomeNick> krazy: ok I take that back
[06:32] <tonewhy> scanner help anyone? having trouble scanning
[06:32] <frenzy42> britta: do you have specfic questions?
[06:32] <Housefly7k> frenzy42: i even changed the device to pulse audio...now the volume control in the panel controls both...maybe I should restart to see if that was it
[06:33] <KRaZy_WaKa> i can honestly say the fastest i've had anything dload was HArdy from that mirror. between 100K and 300K
[06:33] <frenzy42> Housefly: try it, maybe?
[06:33] <britta> ok :) not used to this chat. I have a prob installing updates. Get this msg. darn, it won't paste... brb.
[06:33] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa try http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/ sometime
[06:33] <SomeNick> got 10 MB in 3 minutes
[06:33] <arrrghhh> is there any logs i can look at to see why my computer is not workin at all?
[06:33] <SomeNick> mite have 200 in about an hour
[06:33] <SomeNick> hmmm maybe 3 or 4 hours
[06:34] <SomeNick> still good. 4 hours ahead of time
[06:34] <nickrud> arrrghhh /var/log/Xorg.0.log logs X startup, /var/log/syslog might have something as well
[06:34] <britta> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:34] <britta> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[06:34] <deejaypip> Does anybody have a suggestion for a videoconferencing program that works with iChat? I really do not want to install skype
[06:34] <SomeNick> does this Ubuntu really take 320 MB RAM to work?
[06:35] <frenzy42> ok britta open a terminal
[06:35] <tonewhy> cab anyone help me with my scanner?
[06:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: lol i think that may have been my next mirror to try, but once i caught the CSS server (which is a computer science school) i settled for Ubuntu upgrade in half an hour lol was fast enough for me
[06:35] <frenzy42> then type "dpkg --configure -a"
[06:35] <britta> thanks. terminal opened.
[06:35] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa I take it back, it looks like it's throttling now. Bummer.
[06:35] <frenzy42> that should fix it
[06:35] <neo_> hi
[06:35] <SomeNick> this place is great, I will come here again when I have Ubuntu questions after installation
[06:36] <KRaZy_WaKa> 384 minimum to run the LIVE CD, being as how it's an OS running from your CD-Rom it buffers to RAM a lot!
[06:36] <newbieatubuntu> Hello everyone, can you help me get my antialiasing working in Ubuntu i have nvidia 8500 gt
[06:36] <yggShack> hello, what came after breezy ?
[06:36] <SomeNick> I planned to install it to a 128 MB RAM computer....
[06:36] <nickrud> SomeNick that's a bare minimum, I finally replaced my 512mb max machine a year ago
[06:36] <KRaZy_WaKa> once its installed to physical drive it blows Windoze out of the water
[06:36] <SomeNick> well I will put it here
[06:36] <Jalathan> SomeNick, I used Ubuntu with 320MB RAM for ~2 years.  not too much can be done without touching the swap, but it works better than XP
[06:36] <SomeNick> but this comp isnt mine
[06:36] <tonewhy> i have problem with my scanner, can anyone help?
[06:37] <SomeNick> I rn XP on the 128 RAM machine
[06:37] <britta> says requested operation requires superuser priviledge
[06:37] <Jalathan> tis better to run XFCE (Xubuntu) or Fluxbox (Fluxbuntu)
[06:37] <SomeNick> so maybe Ubuntu would run too?
[06:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> SomeNick: you may want to grab the alternate installer
[06:37] <Jalathan> on those specs though
[06:37] <yggShack> hello, what came after breezy ?
[06:37] <nickrud> I used to ride single speed bikes uphill
[06:37] <steviebuns> ygg: what is "Dapper Drake"
[06:37] <yggShack> somenick im curretly runnign it on a box with no keyboard mouse and 128 mb
[06:37] <yggShack> alternate.
[06:37] <SomeNick> how about if I run Ubuntu in VMWare?
[06:37] <yggShack> steibuns ok thanks
[06:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> oh hell Ubuntu will run like a champ on 128MB once installed to the physical Hard Drive
[06:37] <frenzy42> britta: did that work?
[06:38] <SomeNick> (this comp has 2 GB but isnt mine - cant really fumble much with partitions and such)
[06:38]  * nickrud thinks he's finally understood KRaZy_WaKa 's nick
[06:38] <britta> no. says requires superuser priviledges, which I should have...
[06:38] <tonewhy> hi guys, anyone know how to scan?
[06:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> it's the live CD that's the RAM monger lol
[06:38] <Jalathan> !xane
[06:38] <SomeNick> Krazy_Waka oh kool
[06:38] <Jalathan> !xsane
[06:38] <SomeNick> but ever think my little machinje will even load the live CD at all?
[06:38] <tonewhy> jala: it doesn't work
[06:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> absolutely not
[06:38] <frenzy42> try sudo ﻿﻿dpkg --configure -a
[06:38] <tonewhy> says error, device busy
[06:38] <Jalathan> hrm
[06:38] <nickrud> britta you have to actively take superuser privs each time you need them, you're the admin but you're running in a normal user account
[06:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol i only say that from experience
[06:39] <SomeNick> ok
[06:39] <mhz128> How do you pause the directory listing per page? Using the command ls ?
[06:39] <frenzy42> superuser is not automatic in linux, you have to ask everytime
[06:39] <frenzy42> nicely
[06:39] <SomeNick> I assume you have more experience than me, in quite new to Linux overall
[06:39] <michel_> qui parle francais?
[06:39] <britta> hmm, ok :) think perhaps i better go to a slower channel.
[06:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> i had 256 in this HP klunker couldnt do it, had to upgrade
[06:39] <frenzy42> example: http://xkcd.com/149/
[06:39] <lokuazzz> hello my friends.. does anyone know when i boot from ubuntu cd not hd.. which ip is taking the cd to work on the web? a random one ? or my computer ip?
[06:39] <nickrud> britta but you'll not have near the quality help ;p
[06:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> only been running Ubuntu Linux for a couple months
[06:40] <tonewhy>  jala: do you know how to get my printer workin with xsane? its a hp psc 500
[06:40] <Rat409> !fr michel_
[06:40] <britta> don't evenknow how to take superuser rights...
[06:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> i have a bit of background in computers in general though
[06:40] <michel_> qui arle français?
[06:40] <britta> what? you saying the DK channel is a bit dim? ;)
[06:40] <Rat409> !fr | michel_
[06:40] <frenzy42> type "sudo"
[06:40] <nickrud> lokuazzz the cd asks your router for an ip address
[06:40] <elpargo> hi, I got a new dell laptop just got 8.04 on it and the wifi is not working, acording to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy I no longer need the driver all the tutorials are pointing me to, any suggestions?
[06:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> IMHO Linux kicks the donkey crap out of windoze
[06:40] <frenzy42> before your command
[06:40] <SomeNick> I had Ubuntu 7.04 on a Pentium 4 which suddenly got destroyed in a flood that wipe out my little apartment pretty much..... sucked... :-(
[06:40] <Jalathan> tonewhy, sry, I don't have too much experience in scanning under linux...  you might try over at #sane
[06:40] <nickrud> britta but of course ;)))
[06:40] <lokuazzz> ok nick
[06:40] <lokuazzz> thanks
[06:40] <tonewhy> jala: ok thnc
[06:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud how so on the understanding of the nick? lol
[06:40] <Jalathan> np
[06:41] <britta> he he, there are not so many users. haven't been in ages.
[06:41] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa crazy to run ubuntu in 128mb, that must be excruciating
[06:41] <frenzy42> try xubuntu Krazy
[06:41] <nickrud> britta you see bullgard4 there?
[06:41] <SomeNick> i think the old machine can be upped to 512
[06:41] <SomeNick> but wont be done overnight
[06:41] <britta> under applications?
[06:41] <frenzy42> I get xubuntu to run on the trashiest of computers
[06:42] <nickrud> britta nm, you said dk, I was thinking de
[06:42] <SomeNick> xubuntu?
[06:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> i ran it on 384 on my old machine but never really got into it was still hesitant to complete the transition, it kinda just sat and collected dust i played some of the gnome games lol
[06:42] <britta> yes. dk. Denmark
[06:42] <SomeNick> but does xubuntu still have all the stuff of other ubuntu linux?
[06:42] <arrrghhh> i don't see anything wrong, other than the Xserver couldn't start
[06:42] <nickrud> britta I claim slow americanitis. (I live in LA, so the international stuff eventually sinks in ;)
[06:42] <elpargo> anyone to give me a hand with this wireless issue?
[06:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> yup same stuff different desktop environment
[06:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> well same stuff for the most part
[06:42] <Jalathan> same repo's too
[06:43] <SomeNick> ok mite grab a copy of that
[06:43] <frenzy42> most of it
[06:43] <frenzy42> i heart xubuntu
[06:43] <britta> :) well, it's bright and early here. too eárly for me to have my wits about me...
[06:43] <frenzy42> if xubuntu doesn't work i use DSL or puppy linux
[06:43] <KRaZy_WaKa> i personally didnt like Xubuntu
[06:43] <britta> but then maybe it still is in 5 hours ;)
[06:43] <frenzy42> try some other small distros
[06:43] <newbieatubuntu> Who in thsi chatroom is the tech support?
[06:43] <vega--> is it possible to find old packages from some archive site? i need the 2.6.24-12 kernel for hardy
[06:43] <Rat409> elpargo: ndiswrapper using bcmwl5.inf worked here bcm94311 (rev02)
[06:43] <SomeNick> need Ubuntu 7.10 sorry cant do with anything else
[06:43] <newbieatubuntu> I need help dude
[06:44] <SomeNick> absolutely required at college.
[06:44] <nickrud> newbieatubuntu whoever understands your problem, after you describe it
[06:44] <vega--> currently i can only find 16 and 17
[06:44] <frenzy42> you can get a limted computer to run pretty well under the right OS
[06:44] <KRaZy_WaKa> newbie anyone and everyone
[06:44] <arrrghhh> nickrud, http://pastebin.com/d37aade0f
[06:44] <KRaZy_WaKa> !ask newbieatubuntu
[06:44] <newbieatubuntu> I want to install the latest nvidia drivers that were posted 3 days ago from nvidia
[06:44] <SomeNick> I guess I'll run it under a virtual machine like VMWare
[06:44] <SomeNick> this machine has 2 GB of RAM
[06:44] <newbieatubuntu> how do id o that
[06:44] <SomeNick> but isnt mine
[06:44] <KRaZy_WaKa> stupid bot lol
[06:44] <Rat409>  KRaZy_WaKa theres a fluxbuntu iirc
[06:44] <nickrud> arrrghhh and what was in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[06:44] <frenzy42> newbie: download a program called "Envy"
[06:44] <britta> bullguard4, don't seem to have it. should I install? what is it anyway?
[06:45] <frenzy42> just google it
[06:45] <nickrud> frenzy42 envy-gtk is in the repos now
[06:45] <frenzy42> Oh
[06:45] <britta> ok :)
[06:45] <KRaZy_WaKa> thanx all but I'm good running Ubuntu Hardy on an HP with 512MB RAM currently
[06:45] <nickrud> britta a person :)
[06:45] <newbieatubuntu> what does that mean
[06:45] <newbieatubuntu> envy gtk?
[06:46] <newbieatubuntu> I want the new nvidia driver though
[06:46] <Rat409> envyng
[06:46] <frenzy42> sudo apt-get install envy
[06:46] <frenzy42> in a terminal
[06:46] <newbieatubuntu> i think if i update to the news nvidia drivers it will fix my compiz problems
[06:46] <frenzy42> what compiz problems are you having?
[06:46] <newbieatubuntu> antialiasing isnt workn
[06:46] <nickrud> newbieatubuntu install envyng-gtk , and run it. It's designed to install the latest drivers from nvidia. I heartily don't recommend it however
[06:46] <Rat409> !envyng | newbieatubuntu
[06:46] <arrrghhh> nickrud, http://pastebin.com/d344f7c2 - sorry i just pasted the whole file, i don't know what is important there...
[06:46] <KRaZy_WaKa> SomeNick: borrow some RAM from a friend's computer? or see if you can find somebody in school with RAM for your PC and give them something in exchange? that is the spirit of Ubuntu after all :D
[06:47] <elpargo> oh that's nice they finally fixed the crappy envy.
[06:47] <britta> ok, av sw. reply had nothing to do with me then... geez will have to update reading and typing skills...
[06:47] <elpargo> please be all means use the new version it HAS to be better
[06:47] <mib_m7euumzq> hi, i have kubuntu 8.04 on a cd .... is it possible to switch to GNOME after it install the OS ?
[06:47] <KRaZy_WaKa> newbieatubuntu: my recommendation is to stick with the free/open source drivers
[06:47] <arrrghhh> mib_m7euumzq, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:47] <locohost> when i play dvds, there are all these artifacts in mplayer, whats the best player to use in ubuntu?
[06:48] <britta> sorry if you already replied. how do I get superuser rights?
[06:48] <frenzy42> VLC best player ever
[06:48] <elpargo> locohost: vlc
[06:48] <locohost> or, is there a better plugin to use? i have totem-xine
[06:48] <arrrghhh> mib_m7euumzq, actually use aptitude instead of apt-get.  it'll make it a lot easier if you want to go back :P
[06:48] <locohost> and vlc installed
[06:48] <Rat409> nvidia here wouldn't work trying to use hardware-drivers,envyng built it fine
[06:48] <locohost> there a plugin i need for vlc?
[06:48] <mib_m7euumzq> ok, thatnks
[06:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> mib_m7euumzq: what arrrghhh said
[06:48] <frenzy42> britta: go private chat
[06:48] <mib_m7euumzq> thanks
[06:48] <frenzy42> no locohost
[06:48] <nickrud> arrrghhh the critical thing is the last 2 lines in that file. I'm googling it but not seeing a fix
[06:48] <britta> argghh :) how?
[06:48] <elpargo> locohost: I think you don't know what you are talking about
[06:48] <locohost> heh
[06:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> VLC on Ubuntu or Windows
[06:48] <newbieatubuntu> Right now I have Nvidida installed
[06:49] <mib_m7euumzq> aptitude is something new in ubuntu 8.04?
[06:49] <arrrghhh> mib_m7euumzq, oh no.
[06:49] <elpargo> locohost: you don't like mplayer because it "doesn't" plays stuff, or the interface?
[06:49] <newbieatubuntu> Nvidia X server settigns is in my administration manu...... however.......... the antialiasing isn't being loaded
[06:49] <newbieatubuntu> i thought maybe the new drivers would fix this problem
[06:49] <mib_m7euumzq> hadnt heard of it uptil now
[06:49] <coldwolf> hehe
[06:49] <locohost> i said there were artifacts
[06:49] <frenzy42> newbie: what is your video card ram?
[06:49] <newbieatubuntu> 8500 gt 512
[06:50] <robotic> Hi all!  I'm trying to upgrade Edgy to Heron with update-manager, but it's crashing early in the upgrade process and complains that it can't find the repos
[06:50] <KRaZy_WaKa> locohost: like your video is pixelated?
[06:50] <elpargo> locohost: what do you mean by that
[06:50] <robotic> Is there a way around this?
[06:50] <locohost> as in...different color shapes in the video that move
[06:50] <skillet> newbieatubuntu, i have the same card.... i think it sucks
[06:50] <newbieatubuntu> its not 8800
[06:50] <newbieatubuntu> but its alright
[06:50] <elpargo> locohost: are you sure it's not the video file?
[06:50] <locohost> no, using a dvd, tried several
[06:50] <newbieatubuntu> skillet how did u get antialiasing working
[06:50] <locohost> non even a burned dvd, from factor
[06:50] <arrrghhh> mib_m7euumzq, there's a lot of arguments over which is better.  frankly, i don't know why there aren't any graphical front-ends for it.  the main difference from apt-get is it actually removes all the crap that is installed when you install something with aptitude.  if you install it with apt-get, and try to remove it with apt-get, not everything will get removed that was installed.
[06:50] <nickrud> arrrghhh check to make sure you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf , move it out of the way and run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg . Everything I've seen on the net says something about the xorg config, so....
[06:51] <skillet> it just worked for me
[06:51] <locohost> reservour dogs, actually :)
[06:51] <elpargo> locohost: actually a "profesional" dvd is worse than a burned one in this case.
[06:51] <arrrghhh> nickrud, k i'll try that.  kdm is still takin 100% cpu... i don't get what happened.
[06:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> robotic: back up your personal files, and perform a clean install
[06:51] <Rat409> robotic: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list change all edgy's to hardy's and cross your fingers
[06:51] <newbieatubuntu> skillet does antialiasing smooth out the edges of ur compiz fusion box
[06:51] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: that's so windows.... why not solve the problem?
[06:51] <mib_m7euumzq> arrrghhh: ok, thanks, that was new for me :)
[06:51] <nickrud> arrrghhh well, you can use apt-get autoremove . On the kdm, it's cuz of the X failure most likely
[06:51] <skillet> newbieatubuntu, i would tell you but im not on that computer right now
[06:52] <skillet> sorry
[06:52] <mib_m7euumzq> so the command would be like .. sudo aptitude install <blah blah> ???
[06:52] <arrrghhh> mib_m7euumzq, google aptitude.  and nickrud it was my understanding apt-get still doesn't get all the dependencies & aptitude is much better at that.
[06:52] <Rat409> robotic: a jump from edgy to hardy is pretty unlikely afaik
[06:52] <arrrghhh> mib_m7euumzq, yessir
[06:52] <elpargo> locohost: take a look at the ugly plugins, now beware some of those are actually illegal in some places.
[06:52] <mib_m7euumzq> wokay, thanks
[06:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: because that is the solution I offered i don't know of another if you do feel free to suggest it to robotic
[06:52] <marcat> how much harddrive space do i need to compile the latest kernel?
[06:52] <nickrud> arrrghhh better, probably. I only use aptitude myself
[06:53] <Ashfire908> After updating the kernel on my gateway, my system has seemed to stop running the ppp up directory scripts.
[06:53] <newbieatubuntu> skillet: is there a way of permanently running the command  nvidia-settings -l   before compiz loads on the computer?
[06:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> however my reasearch says just one release at a time or do a complete reinstall so like Rat409 said
[06:53] <arrrghhh> nickrud, why doesn't synaptic or adept use it as a front-end?  is it that new, or is apt-get that old?  i don't get it.
[06:53] <newbieatubuntu> I read online I have to load that command before i load compiz
[06:53] <nickrud> arrrghhh and synaptic is essentially a front end of aptitude
[06:53] <locohost> im guessing that doesnt use libsexy
[06:53] <locohost> bu da bump tss
[06:53] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: I wasn't around to read the question but, reinstall should never be the answer.
[06:53] <arrrghhh> nickrud, it was my understanding synaptic was a front-end for apt-get NOT aptitude...
[06:54] <nickrud> arrrghhh at least, it uses a lot of the same routines. If you look at the filters and such in synaptic, you'll be amazed at how they mirror aptitudes
[06:54] <newbieatubuntu> Anybody know.......... IF is there a way of permanently running the command  nvidia-settings -l   before compiz loads on the computer?
[06:54] <locohost> locohost@princess-alena:~$ dpkg -l|grep ugly
[06:54] <locohost> ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly                 0.10.7-3                                           GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
[06:54] <locohost> already got it, i guess
[06:54] <skillet> newbieatubuntu, im sure there is
[06:54] <KRaZy_WaKa> apt-get and aptitude are command line (terminal) commands and they are hellafast compared to synaptic
[06:54] <nickrud> arrrghhh apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, adept are all front ends to apt
[06:54] <elpargo> arrrghhh: they are all the some thing.
[06:54] <skillet> newbieatubuntu, maybe rc.local?
[06:54] <robotic> thanks guys.  I'm actually trying to go edgy->feisty->gutsy->heron, so maybe that'll have better luck?
[06:54] <arrrghhh> well yea
[06:54] <newbieatubuntu> i dont even know what rc.local means i need instructions lol
[06:54] <newbieatubuntu> im a windows user
[06:54] <Mulder> remember dselect?
[06:54] <arrrghhh> nickrud, well i think i completely broke mah comp.  i can't get to my webserver or ssh after reboot.
[06:54] <Mulder> heh
[06:55] <cristian_> hello
[06:55] <vlt> Hello. I upgraded from 6.06 to 8.04 LTS recently. When I try to print something from evince now I get a greyed out menu entry "Print ...". Any idea why?
[06:55] <elpargo> locohost: that's gsteamer ugly which is used by totem, is your mplayer using gstreamer? did you try the video in totem?
[06:55] <locohost>    you can put stuff in /etc/rc.local to run on boot
[06:55] <skillet> arrrghhh, what did you do before your reboot?
[06:55] <nickrud> arrrghhh ouch
[06:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: i am relatively new to ubuntu, and as i understand it this is an open support channel, people ask questions other people make suggestions
[06:56] <locohost> totem says an error occured, location not found
[06:56] <arrrghhh> skillet, dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg.  then reboot.  nothin else.
[06:56] <skillet> arrrghhh, nothing network related?
[06:56] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: agreed but you should give good suggestions
[06:56] <newbieatubuntu> In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution
[06:56] <newbieatubuntu> # bits.
[06:56] <newbieatubuntu> how do i do that?
[06:56] <viumden> usser,thank you for you help,I changed "radeon" to "ati" and it finally works!but I hava a question that why "sudo glxinfo | grep rendering" results a yes while without "sudo" it still gives a no?
[06:56] <arrrghhh> skillet, nope.  i'm wondering if it's running fsck or something...
[06:56] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: gramnted reinstall is maybe a cheesey "windows" fix, but it beats the hell out of upgrade through 4 releases
[06:56] <Nikunj93> any download manager for ubun tu?
[06:56] <provolik> hi to all
[06:56] <cristian_> hi im new in ubuntu have problem w/ my video card is a nv geforce 9 cant find software for it any buddy have a hint for me?
[06:56] <KRaZy_WaKa> IMHO
[06:56] <nickrud> newbieatubuntu   sudo chmod +x <script> to enable execution,  -x  to disable
[06:57] <[Realin]> ubuntu roxxx :P
[06:57] <skillet> arrrghhh, fsck is run on unmounted filesystems so no its not
[06:57] <elpargo> locohost: are you opening the file or it's one of those semi-propietary things?
[06:57] <SomeNick> Nikun: Im downloading from Windows XP using GetRight.
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Nikunj93, wget is a command line download manager, you can also find a GUI one in Applications -> Add / Remove
[06:57] <SomeNick> If you are on Windows it might work, if not... not sure.
[06:57] <usser> viumden, find a section in xorg where it says DRI 0666 and remove the line Group 0
[06:57] <nickrud> skillet just to bring you up to speed, he's working remotely
[06:57] <provolik> I have Kubuntu 8.04, but my volume control doesn't work well: I can set the volume only at max or zero... Does someone know something about that?
[06:57] <arrrghhh> skillet, well i don't know what's goin on now... i don't have any access any more.  i rebooted it several times from ssh and it worked...
[06:57] <arrrghhh> provolik, with kmix?
[06:57] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: actually not at all. first of all you should be running 2yr old software, second upgrading your distro should take like 2hrs tops, just leave it running
[06:57] <YAOMTC> There's this Wikimedia OGG Vorbis file in a tab (mplayer plug-in), and every time I close the tab, Firefox freezes and I have to kill its process. Also, afterwards, there are a bunch of mplayer processes still running. What could be wrong here?
[06:57] <skillet> nickrud, lol oh... i thought this was the machine he was on
[06:57] <locohost> hmm, no, its not propriatary, its from blockbusters
[06:57] <[Realin]> anyone using ubuntu on vmware ?
[06:58] <provolik> arrrghhh, yes
[06:58] <viumden> usser,ok really appericiate you
[06:58] <nickrud> skillet yeah, important bit of info :)
[06:58] <usser> viumden, try it may not work though
[06:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> IMHO reinstall is a cure all start fresh fix. possibly due to my being jaded by M$ over the years :D
[06:58] <elpargo> locohost: ehhh I was talking about the video format. if it needs windows player 10 format it's a big problem.
[06:58] <Nikunj93> ﻿Jordan_U: cant get it in ad or remove
[06:58] <locohost> it works fine in fedora
[06:58] <locohost> with vlc and totem
[06:58] <tonewhy> hi i have a problem installing hardy heron on my laptop. the graphics when still in the installer stage looks really bad, i think it doesn't recognize the driver? also i can't get my wireles to work either.
[06:59] <skillet> arrrghhh, maybe wait a bit and it will come back up
[06:59] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: exactly which means broken software, which is something you shouldn't take on to your real OS.
[06:59] <robotic> rat409: looks like edgy repositories are gone for good and causing upgrade problems... is it likely I can use the feisty repos with no problem?
[06:59] <tonewhy> i treid with xubuntu but same thing
[06:59] <newbieatubuntu> nickrud: I  put in the line in /etc/rc.local ... now How do I reload linux to see if it worked?
[06:59] <arrrghhh> skillet, yea... i keep tryin it but nothin.  i think i'm just gonna have to wait till tomorrow.
[06:59] <ryrys>  tonewhy configure ur xorg.org
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Nikunj93, There are many ( I haven't used any personally so I can't give a recommendation ) make sure that you have "All available applications" selected at the top
[07:00] <elpargo> locohost: did you try it on ubuntu's vlc?
[07:00] <nickrud> newbieatubuntu you would have to reboot to check it properly. To just test the script,   sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local start
[07:00] <tonewhy> ryrys, i'm new to linux, what do i have to do?
[07:00] <locohost> i just did apt-get install vlc
[07:00] <navetz> hey, does anyone have bugs switching between internet radio and your regular playlist?
[07:00] <arrrghhh> i don't get how it would just do this on its own?  the only things that were running were google desktop, pidgin, and probably firefox.
[07:00] <marcat> how much hard drive space do i need to compile the latest kernel?
[07:00] <navetz> on amarok that is
[07:00] <elpargo> locohost: and?
[07:00] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: eh usually a complete reinstall for me is i screwed something up and I'm not sure what or how much could take days to track it all down between the original botch jon to the botched attempts at fixing so start fresh clean and new to avoid aggravation lol
[07:01] <skillet> arrrghhh, dunno... ive had that happen to me before.
[07:01] <skillet> hope the box isnt too important
[07:01] <newbieatubuntu> Its getting annoying typing in my root password... Can I always be loggged in as Root?
[07:01] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: unless you are changing files with you vi, linux shouldn't break.
[07:01] <skillet> newbieatubuntu, haha
[07:01] <lucian> I just installed Kubuntu and I am in dire need of assistance with setting up Dual monitors on a nVidia 8500 GT 512MB.. I have the nvidia card set-up kind of.. except my small, 19" flat panel has all the high resolutions available to it (i.e. 1340x1280) but the 32" hdtv only has 1024x768 as highest resolution.. it should be the other way around
[07:01] <tonewhy> ryrys, what do i have to configure in my xorg.,org?
[07:01] <arrrghhh> skillet, where the screen just stops working and X dies and kdm (or gdm...) takes up all your cpu?
[07:01] <elpargo> newbieatubuntu: will you go around with a gun without its lock?
[07:01] <newbieatubuntu> Nah I dont care
[07:02] <Nikunj93> GUI download manager
[07:02] <Nikunj93> ?
[07:02] <skillet> arrrghhh, on a friends box i had that happen
[07:02] <newbieatubuntu> I can always re install if someone gives mea  virus
[07:02] <newbieatubuntu> lol
[07:02] <ryrys> tonewhy, try using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:02] <elpargo> newbieatubuntu: linux has no virus
[07:02] <arrrghhh> skillet, why?  my gf said she left the room, came back and it was dead... i don't get it.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Nikunj93, There are many ( I haven't used any personally so I can't give a recommendation ) make sure that you have "All available applications" selected in Applications -> Add/Remove
[07:02] <tat-> elpargo: you could edit /etc/sudoers, and make it not ask for password
[07:02] <tat-> newbieatubuntu: you could edit /etc/sudoers, and make it not ask for password
[07:02] <elpargo> arrrghhh: first rule of computer support is that the user never did anything
[07:03] <tat-> (sorry, wrong nick)
[07:03] <tonewhy> ryrys, thnx i'll be rite bak. i'll try that
[07:03] <skillet> arrrghhh, i dont know either. it was a friends box that i was working on remotely. i just thought it was something that he had done
[07:03] <YAOMTC> There's this Wikimedia OGG Vorbis file in a tab (mplayer plug-in), and every time I close the tab, Firefox freezes and I have to kill its process. Also, afterwards, there are a bunch of mplayer processes still running. What could be wrong here?
[07:03] <arrrghhh> elpargo, well i'm not sayin that nothing was running but she wasn't in the room when it died.
[07:03] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: so far I'm good on that loving Linux well Ubuntu specifically haven't ventured beyond Ubuntu too much, but i have tried some things and decided i don't like them, and not sure what all i changed to get them working and  really don't feel like tracking it all down
[07:03] <navetz> can someone please help me fix my cdrom drive, it is not auto mounting correctly. Can someone show me a defualt fstab value for their cd rom/burner?
[07:03] <skillet> arrrghhh, he had a flaky video card... ati
[07:03] <elpargo> tat-: that is true, but you shouldn't. it's a bad idea and most people aren't aware of how bad it is.
[07:04] <robotic> crossing my fingers, hitting the "upgrade" button...
[07:04] <Ashfire908> While installing the new kernel on my desktop it failed and said it failed in --configure (it's NOT refering to dpkg --reconfigure).
[07:04] <arrrghhh> skillet, yes it probably is... but i don't get why even after reboot it's dead.  i have an nvidia card.  this system has always been real stable (until i change things) which i haven't.  i haven't been home in 2 weeks.
[07:04] <tat-> elpargo: of course :)
[07:04] <robotic> thanks for your help rat409, krazy_waka
[07:04] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: as long as you stick with packages it should be 2 clicks away.
[07:04] <Kartagis> hi
[07:04] <eaglestar83> what is a good program for recording streaming flash videos from the internet
[07:04] <skillet> arrrghhh, can you ping the box at all?
[07:04] <robotic> eaglestar83: I believe you have to find and save the flv files, right?
[07:04] <stunatra> eaglestar83, extract the videos from your browser's cache
[07:04] <Kartagis> how can I get Qt meta object compiler? what's the package name?
[07:05] <noodles12> i know it's a lttle blasphemous but can someone help me with a mac issue? (msg me )
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, Are you using vanilla sources?
[07:05] <elpargo> eaglestar83: /tmo/Flash*
[07:05] <mib_e79z6x> Why does it say
[07:05] <Jordan_U> noodles12, There is a mac channel, #mac
[07:05] <elpargo> sorry that's /tmp/Flash*, eaglestar83
[07:05] <KRaZy_WaKa> newbieatubuntu: linux has No virus problem due to its humble nature, and all the other "issues" can be handled without extra cost eternally gota love that pricetag
[07:05] <arrrghhh> skillet, my router rejects ICMP ping requests.
[07:05] <skillet> oh
[07:05] <skillet> stinky
[07:05] <eaglestar83> ok
[07:05] <eaglestar83> but the thing is
[07:05] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: not humble, good architecture design.
[07:05] <Kaemon12433> hey tronyx
[07:05] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, what? I'm using the ubuntu package.
[07:05] <eaglestar83> that they are embedded i think
[07:05] <arrrghhh> skillet, but before my web server worked and ssh worked just fine.  torrentflux worked, but no X
[07:05] <newbieatubuntu> tat- I tried doing it with gedit
[07:06] <newbieatubuntu> didnt work
[07:06] <elpargo> eaglestar83: if they are flash they will be where I told you.
[07:06] <Kaemon12433> whats the name of ubuntu begginer talk?
[07:06] <robotic> eaglestar83: it looks like you can do it with GreaseMonkey in Firefox.  see :http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2005/12/4843/
[07:06] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, Can you pastebin the full error?
[07:06] <mib_e79z6x> Why does it say "White wins" - One pf the players has died when I go to help in Gnome chess?
[07:06] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, I don't have it...
[07:06] <Kartagis> how can I get Qt meta object compiler? what's the package name?
[07:06] <tat-> newbieatubuntu: try to google sudoers nopasswd
[07:07] <elpargo> robotic: actually they extension is better, it's call "videoDownloader'
[07:07] <akiraV> Evening folks. Could anyone offer any ideas as to why my system seems to ignore any changes to /etc/gdm/Init/Default (trying to get synergy to connect to serving system for logon screen (have it working after logged in so far)
[07:07] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: tried my hand at Tor and Privoxy, not working so well for me, had to edit some stuff, can't remember what don't wanna go back and track it all down
[07:07] <arrrghhh> my gf keeps saying there's a female (british) voice sayin something about system failure... i don't EVER remember a female voice on bootup... X doesn't even run... what could that be?
[07:07] <eaglestar83> there is no /tmp/Flash
[07:07] <locohost> el, when i run either in a terinal, i get a similar error
[07:07] <locohost> libdvdread: Invalid title IFO (VTS_01_0.IFO).
[07:07] <KRaZy_WaKa> well got firefox running great with it but didn't fare so well with pidgin
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, Can you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and pastebin the output?
[07:07] <joetheodd> What's the proper way of installing an RPM on a DPKG system? Would I need to convert the RPM to a DPKG?
[07:07] <locohost> *** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1543 ***
[07:07] <locohost> *** for info_length % sizeof(cell_adr_t) == 0 ***
[07:07] <arrrghhh> ugh if my ip changed i'm screwed
[07:08] <SuperQ> joetheodd: there is a utility called alien
[07:08] <stunatra> eaglestar83, if you're using Firefox, go to /home/<your user name>/.mozilla/profiles/cache and retrieve the flash video from there
[07:08] <locohost> can you maybe installl rpm with apt-get
[07:08] <SuperQ> joetheodd: what package are you trying to install
[07:08] <Jordan_U> joetheodd, There is no 'proper' way, it is possible but should be avoided if at all possible
[07:08] <locohost> then just ivh it?
[07:08] <eaglestar83> ok thanks
[07:08] <joetheodd> SuperQ, VMware-server-1.0.5-80187.i386.rpm
[07:08] <SuperQ> joetheodd: Jordan_U is correct, it's really supported
[07:08] <troxor> joetheodd: it's preferable to find a .deb package, built for ubuntu
[07:09] <elpargo> eaglestar83: I said /tmp/Flash* the * stands for a random set of numbers and/or letter 6 (i think) chars long.
[07:09] <mib_e79z6x> Why does it say "White wins - One of the players has died" when I go to help in glChess?
[07:09] <stunatra> eaglestar83, err, it will be something like this "/home/user name/.mozilla/firefox/b7xr4akl.default/Cache"
[07:09] <eaglestar83> /home/ahren/.mozilla/firefox/1zxaiv3d.default/Cache
[07:09] <Jordan_U> joetheodd, There are .debs for VMware, not sure if they are available for that specific version though
[07:09] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, thought the error wasn't about dpkg, but it worked for a bit, and now i got a menu.
[07:09] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: did you know you can revert any config file to it's default state when the package gets isntalled?
[07:10] <eaglestar83> how do i know which video is it?
[07:10] <SuperQ> joetheodd: there is a repository that includes vmware server
[07:10] <eaglestar83> i have to see every one?
[07:10] <stunatra> open them and see
[07:10] <stunatra> if you clear your cache prior to streaming, it should be no problem
[07:10] <joetheodd> SuperQ, wish I'd know that before I downloaded a 100MB package :P
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, Did you get the error when installing the kernel or when trying to boot from it?
[07:10] <Spoken> :P
[07:10] <elpargo> locohost: it seems to be some issue with the coded, which version of vlc you have in your other linux?
[07:10] <eaglestar83> ok thanks
[07:10] <symons123> lkjasdf/part/part
[07:10] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, it's asking what i should do witht he grub boot menu file.
[07:10] <SuperQ> joetheodd: hehe, sorry, let me get you more info
[07:10] <joetheodd> SuperQ, which repo is that?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, What is asking you this?
[07:11] <SuperQ> joetheodd: one sec
[07:11] <locohost> ide have to reboot to know the exact version, actually
[07:11] <robotic> arrrghhh: Really?
[07:11] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, installing, i'm not restarting untill the kernel is ok.
[07:11] <Kartagis> hello?
[07:11] <arrrghhh> robotic, really what?
[07:11] <Kartagis> how can I get Qt meta object compiler? what's the package name?
[07:11] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: wasn't aware of that, how do i know which configs i messed with? i honestly don't remember, but i am moving to a bigger primnary drive anyway so i'm gonna do APTonCD and reboot on the new HDD
[07:11] <locohost> whatever is in the standard fedora 7 repo
[07:11] <robotic> arrrghhh: you're hearing 'system failure' spoken on boot?
[07:11] <elpargo> locohost: that's the only thing I got left, maybe you have a bug that's fix on the newer version.
[07:11] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, it says a new version of the file is available but it's been modified locally.
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, So if it's not installed running "sudo dpkg --configure -a" should either finish installing it or give you the error to pastebin
[07:12] <eaglestar83> thanks man you guys are awesome
[07:12] <coldwolf> where is this?
[07:12] <eaglestar83> if any one wants to learn forex let me know
[07:12] <Spoken> hey guys, my computer normally boots into kernal 2.6.24-17 (i think), but i could never get sound to work, so now when ever i reboot my computer, i always manually have to esc to the grub menu, and select and different generic, one that works for me is 2.6.20-16.  is there any other way to do this, one thats permanent?
[07:12] <eaglestar83> i am a trader
[07:12] <arrrghhh> robotic, supposedly.  it's not running the X server, and kdm is taking 100% of the cpu.  now i can't access the box at all.  i'm like 2,000 miles from the machine right now.  i think i'm going to accept defeat and check it out tomorrow when i get home.
[07:12] <stunatra> eaglestar83, you're welcome :)
[07:12] <elpargo> eaglestar83: hehe I always wanted to learn that :p
[07:12] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, dpkg is running. it's givene me a choice menu.
[07:13] <arrrghhh> Spoken, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst.  at the bottom, just comment out the -17 kernel.
[07:13] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: any debian based system knows which config files belong to which package. so yea you can revert them, let me look for the command cause I forgot.
[07:13] <Spoken> whats the command to edit that menu list?
[07:13] <robotic> arrrghhh: OK, good luck!  I'm curious to hear what it was that was doing it
[07:13] <locohost> well, ill try compiling it myself
[07:13] <arrrghhh> Spoken, well, if you use gedit: "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[07:14] <SuperQ> joetheodd: Unfortunately, it looks like canonical has not updated the partner repo with 1.0.5 yet
[07:14] <locohost> http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/0.8.6f/vlc-0.8.6f.tar.gz
[07:14] <SuperQ> joetheodd: they only have 1.0.4
[07:14] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/d63590700
[07:14] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: they may have been specific to tor and privoxy so if i uninstall those packages i may not have to revert the configs
[07:14] <joetheodd> SuperQ, that's okay, I'll just do alien and then dpkg.
[07:14] <arrrghhh> robotic, so am i.  i don't get what's going on.  apparently this just 'happened' while she was away from the machine.  she came back and the monitor was in sleep mode.
[07:14] <joetheodd> SuperQ, I'm used to breaking stuff, this can't be major. Heck, I'm doing this to install Windows NT 4.0, lol.
[07:14] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: mind if i add you to mny IRC friends on Pidgin?
[07:14] <Darknezz> hey i had a question about http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[07:15] <SuperQ> joetheodd: you probably don't want the RPM
[07:15] <SuperQ> joetheodd: you want the tar.gz
[07:15] <SuperQ> joetheodd: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/server.html
[07:15] <locohost> ls
[07:15] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa wouldn't mind if I used pidgin :)
[07:15] <joetheodd> I know this is off topic, and I'm sorry, but can anyone point me in the direction of finding a guide to install Windows NT 4.0 on a Macintosh? I supports PPC, but I'm not sure if the CD will boot properly.
[07:15] <Spoken> arrrghhh, to comment out i just put 2 #'s in front of each line right
[07:16] <RudyValencia> I don't think NT 4.0 can be installed on a Mac.
[07:16] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, Ok, unless you have made a needed change to your /boot/grub/menu.lst then back it up with "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst{,-bak}" and then choose to install the package manager's version, make sure that before you reboot you know how to restore the backup from a liveCD though just in case
[07:16] <misha__> Is anyone in here familiar with ScrollKeeper?
[07:16] <arrrghhh> Spoken, one # will do it
[07:16] <Rat409> Spoken: yes or add savedefault to kernel you want
[07:16] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: unless it's something like adding lines to /etc/X11/xorg.conf or other file that is edited a lot, yes it can be reverted with no problem.
[07:16] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol guess that doesnt do much good, but i'll know when there's quality support in #ubuntu before i join lol
[07:16] <joetheodd> RudyValencia, it supports PowerPC processors
[07:16] <SuperQ> joetheodd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779934
[07:16] <RudyValencia> Yes, but Win32 apps won't run on i.
[07:16] <RudyValencia> *it.
[07:16] <arrrghhh> Spoken, make sure you backup your original /boot/grub/menu.lst just in case.
[07:17] <Rat409> and 1 # is sufficient
[07:17] <arrrghhh> i always forget to do that, and trust me it's a baaaaaad idea.
[07:17] <Spoken> arrrghhh: kk ty
[07:17] <arrrghhh> np
[07:17] <SuperQ> joetheodd: Windows PPC is a strange strange thing
[07:17] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: i believe it was just the tor and privoxy config files
[07:17] <newbieatubuntu> I cant change my background to a gradient???????????????wtf
[07:17] <arrrghhh> well i have completely lost remote access to my machine at home.  i'm really worried, but i guess i shouldn't cuz i can't do anything till i get home.  thanks all.  i'm off to bed.
[07:18] <joetheodd> SuperQ, thanks for that link, and yeah, it should be interesting :P
[07:18] <KRaZy_WaKa> SuperQ: i was thinking the same thing it'd be like frankenstein on crack lol
[07:18] <SuperQ> KRaZy_WaKa: hah
[07:18] <SuperQ> I used to have an NT machine on a Dec Alpha
[07:18] <SuperQ> But I never tried the PPC flavor
[07:19] <bpd1069> does freenode.net have a channel for support of the proprietary fglrx drivers?
[07:19] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, It finished without errors.
[07:19] <misha__> It's rather tasty, SuperQ
[07:19] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: ok to revert any package (including it's config files) to the basic deb file structure you go. "mark for complete removal" and then "install" in synaptics.
[07:19] <KRaZy_WaKa> been pondering CherryOS MacOSx and Ubuntu Dual boot
[07:19] <SuperQ> joetheodd: Have you tried KVM?
[07:19] <KRaZy_WaKa> it's be the Anti-MS lol
[07:20] <misha__> Something tells me this "///usr/share/gnome/help/blackjack/el/blackjack.xml:402: parser error : Entity 'Βοήθεια' not defined
[07:20] <misha__> " is not a good thing.
[07:20] <elpargo> in apt it's apt-get purge <package> ** apt-get install <package> , KRaZy_WaKa
[07:20] <Darknezz> hey i had a question about http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[07:20] <ToneWhy> ryrys, so i typed the reconfig int the terminal, but what do i do? it didn't change anythin
[07:20] <joetheodd> SuperQ, no, what's that?
[07:20] <robotic> I go off into the great upgrade unknown...  wish me luck
[07:21] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, Should i assume it's fine?
[07:21] <elpargo> Darknezz don't ask to ask.
[07:21] <SuperQ> joetheodd: It's a free vmware that comes with Ubuntu 8.04
[07:21] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: ah sweet thanx, good to know for future reference but like i said i'm upgrading my Primary HDD from 20G to 40G so gonna reboot anyway this time
[07:21] <joetheodd> robotic, don't forget the elvish bread!
[07:21] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, I would
[07:21] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: you don't need to do that either :)
[07:21] <newbieatubuntu> Hey guys
[07:21] <newbieatubuntu> are there videos to learn how to use ubuntu
[07:21] <newbieatubuntu> and all the features
[07:21] <SuperQ> joetheodd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[07:21] <KRaZy_WaKa> I know i can direct copy it
[07:22] <joetheodd> !enter | newbieatubuntu
[07:22] <joetheodd> it didn't work :(
[07:22] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: then why lose your conf?
[07:23] <newbieatubuntu> sory
[07:23] <elpargo> anyone with a BCM4310 that will give me a hand making the wifi work?
[07:23] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, ok
[07:23] <ToneWhy> can anyone help me with my dlink dwl g630 wireless card? xubuntu nor ubuntu hardy heron recognizes it
[07:23] <SuperQ> newbieatubuntu: I've been using Ubuntu (Linux) for a very long time, there are a LOT of features I don't know ;)
[07:23] <KRaZy_WaKa> sudo cp -rp / drive, but old habits die hard and i don't wanna disconnect my secondary HDD just to direct copy
[07:23] <Jordan_U> newbieatubuntu, http://ubuntuclips.org ( not sure about the quality though )
[07:24] <Kaemon12433> hello? is there a general discussion room i can join? so i do not throw this room off topic accidently?
[07:24] <mhz128> aloha
[07:24] <mib_e79z6x> There is a bug in ubuntu!
[07:24] <Rat409> newbieatubuntu:  this is good to know http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy
[07:24] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: ehh that's not really a good idea, you should be using rsync even dd will be better than cp.
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Kaemon12433, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:24] <mib_e79z6x> I found a bug in glchess
[07:24] <Ashfire908> Since i ran an update on the gateway server at my house, the thing hasn't been running my ppp ip-up.d scripts. I don't know why they don't run,
[07:24] <elpargo> mib_e79z6x: just one?
[07:24] <Darknezz> elpargo: ???
[07:24] <Kaemon12433> thank you
[07:24] <mhz128> What P2P software is available for Ubuntu? I am looking for something similar to "Bearshare" or "Limewire"
[07:24] <ToneWhy> can anyone help with my wireless card, i can't get it to work
[07:24] <mib_e79z6x> in ubuntu go to games, chess
[07:24] <mib_e79z6x> then go to help
[07:24] <Darknezz> mhz128: frostwire
[07:24] <mib_e79z6x> it says White wins, One of the players has died
[07:25] <elpargo> darknezz ? at your ?
[07:25] <mib_e79z6x> I need to report a bug
[07:25] <mhz128> Darknezz: thanks guy!
[07:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: and because when i reboot i tend to play with the configs anyway well as far as user pref's type stuff
[07:25] <bazzieb> hey there, is there a music player equivilant to winamp or itunes that i can use in ubuntu?
[07:25] <Darknezz> elpargo: dont ask to ask.... i dont understand
[07:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> it's a zen learning type thing for me
[07:25] <troxor> bazzieb: audacious = winamp, amarok, banshee, etc = itunes
[07:25] <mib_e79z6x> can someone help me I want to submit a bug report
[07:25] <Jordan_U> !bugs | mib_e79z6x
[07:25] <bazzieb> sweet thanks
[07:26] <Darknezz> mhz128: http://www.frostwire.com/ it also has a bit torrent client built in.
[07:26] <mhz128> cool!
[07:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> maybe it's not a bug in chess, maybe the developers intended that opening the help file while in game ends the game
[07:27] <elpargo> mib_e79z6x: hehe yea that's probably a bug, but it goes to gnome not ubuntu. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/
[07:27] <mhz128> darknezz: do I have to compile it myself?
[07:27] <KRaZy_WaKa> just a theory
[07:27] <Jordan_U> KRaZy_WaKa, Why would they do that?
[07:27] <SuperQ> speaking of bugs
[07:27] <Darknezz> mhz128: i have not used it on ubuntu. only on windows when i had it about a year ago.
[07:27] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: you are saying reboot as reinstall right?
[07:27] <Ashfire908> Since i ran an update on the gateway server at my house, the thing hasn't been running my ppp ip-up.d scripts. I don't know why they don't run,
[07:28] <mhz128> Darknezz: ok thanks!
[07:28] <SuperQ> anyone notice that firefox 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 about: says "Version 1.9"
[07:28] <RudyValencia> I'
[07:28] <Darknezz> mhz128: np :)
[07:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> Jordan_U cant offer any logic to that effect but file the bug report and i suppose you will find out :D
[07:28] <RudyValencia> I'm having problems removing the 'mbmon' package.
[07:28] <bazzieb> troxor: will i be able to plug my ipod in and does it do art work as well??
[07:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: yes reinstall apologies on the clarity
[07:28] <Hero_2221> ok um help! it wont let me sg\ign in to my main user and that it administrator user
[07:28] <Hero_2221> sign'
[07:29] <elpargo> Hero_2221: it?
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Hero_2221, Can you log in as another user?
[07:29] <Hero_2221> ubunto
[07:29] <Hero_2221> yea im on it
[07:29] <viumden> usser,yes,I removed the "Group 0"line but it makes no effect
[07:29] <elpargo> Hero_2221: is it asking for random?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Hero_2221, Can you "su <main username>" in a terminal?
[07:30] <ToneWhy> can anyone help with my wireless card, i can't get it to work
[07:30] <SATA> can anybody help me with ubuntu-iso remastering?
[07:30] <RudyValencia> I'm having problems removing the 'mbmon' package (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/15731/ for the specifics).
[07:30] <Kaemon12433> i have problems adding repositories.
[07:30] <kari> how to install .7z plugin for archive manager?
[07:30] <Kaemon12433> they seem to never add like they are supposed to
[07:30] <Rat409> !ask | ToneWhy
[07:30] <Hero_2221> um repeat i could not read
[07:30] <SATA> How does the d-i works in ubuntu?
[07:30] <elpargo> RudyValencia: that seems like a bug, did you check the tracker?
[07:30] <misha__> Are there any programmers on?
[07:30] <troxor> bazzieb: yep, with amarok  for sure
[07:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> Kaemon are you on Hardy 8.04?
[07:30] <RudyValencia> tracker?
[07:31] <elpargo> RudyValencia: bug tracker.
[07:31] <Kaemon12433> yes
[07:31] <Kaemon12433> newest one mate
[07:31] <ToneWhy> can anyone help with my wireless card?
[07:31] <troxor> misha__: depends
[07:31] <troxor> ToneWhy: ask away
[07:31] <misha__> I just need a good suggestion on a syntax highlighting code editor.. For assembly.
[07:32] <troxor> misha__: vim :)
[07:32] <misha__> Hah.
[07:32] <damageplan420> hi everyone, im new to ubuntu and im having trouble with my java while trying to play a game on pogo.com. can i get some help?
[07:32] <RudyValencia> It's in there, but there isn't a solution
[07:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> System > Administration > Software Sources is a Graphical Interface to set your Software Sourcesd AKA Repositories
[07:32] <troxor> misha__: vim-gnome? :P
[07:32] <ToneWhy> troxor, my dlink dwl g630 doesn't get recognized in neither ubuntu or xubuntu on my laptop
[07:32] <SATA> Anybody here experienced with ubuntu-iso  remastering?
[07:32] <kari> how to install .7z plugin for archive manager?
[07:32] <misha__> Didn't even think of trying it.
[07:32] <RudyValencia> elpargo: There is a similar error but no solution
[07:32] <elpargo> misha__: what's wrong with vim's ?
[07:32] <Ububegin> misha_  : get geany... its great... has syntax highlighting
[07:33] <viumden> usser,I have refered the offical readme:If you want all of the users on your system to be able to use direct-render-
[07:33] <viumden> ing, then use a simple DRI section:
[07:33] <viumden>           Section "DRI"
[07:33] <viumden>                Mode 0666
[07:33] <viumden>           EndSection
[07:33] <troxor> ToneWhy: which revision of the 630 is that? iirc, d-link is evil and changes the chipset (which is the part that matters) in the same model number (which doesn't matter)
[07:33] <FloodBot3> viumden: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:33] <viumden> This section will allow any user with a current connection to the X server to
[07:33] <elpargo> viumden: don't paste things like that!
[07:33] <usser> viumden, yes thats the idea but u had that there
[07:33] <KRaZy_WaKa> damageplan420: i may be able to help
[07:33] <SATA> Any help on how the debian-installer works in ubuntu?
[07:33] <misha__> I'm writing a boot sector for my lil OS project that I was writing and when I did all of the work on windows I used RadAsm and nasm
[07:33] <ToneWhy> troxor, its the dwl-g630 airplus
[07:33] <KRaZy_WaKa> damageplan420: what specifically is the problem
[07:33] <troxor> ToneWhy: which revision
[07:34] <Rat409> kari: apt-cache search 7zip
[07:34] <Hero_2221>  help! ubuntu wont let me sign in to my main user and that it administrator user
[07:34] <troxor> 630 A, 630B, etc
[07:34] <viumden> sorry
[07:34] <ToneWhy> what does that mean, how do i check it
[07:34] <locohost> hey, you were right, there is a bug in the combonation of dvd/player and copy protection im using
[07:34] <locohost> https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/197081
[07:34] <elpargo> RudyValencia: you could try #ubuntu-dev, maybe someone overthere could take a look at the bug. if not post a new one (if they are different enough)
[07:34] <viumden> usser,any other ideas?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, Please see if you can contribute any new information to the bug report first , then to get the package to remove successfully ( in a somewhat ugly way ) run "echo exit | sudo tee /etc/init.d/mbmon" then try removing again.
[07:34] <Ububegin> misha_ : http://geany.uvena.de/ .. if you still interested
[07:34] <elpargo> locohost: :)
[07:35] <Rat409> ToneWhy: in gnome-terminal lspci | grep Network
[07:35] <Hero_2221> ubuntu wont let me sign in to my main user and that it administrator user
[07:35] <Hero_2221> help please
[07:35] <locohost> thats okay, i just wont watch those movies, i boycott things that try to force you to do thinks a certain way..ie..use windows
[07:35] <usser> viumden, can u pastebin the xorg.conf u using now?
[07:35] <RudyValencia> I don't have any new info besides what the bug report says.
[07:35] <elpargo> Hero_2221: didn't you ask that a while ago?
[07:35] <misha__> Thanks for the geany tip... It's pretty nice.
[07:35] <RudyValencia> It's the same problem.
[07:35] <Hero_2221> i never got the help i needed
[07:35] <SATA> How do i replace kernel in ubuntu-iso?
[07:36] <elpargo> RudyValencia: if it's exactly the smae make a comment with your system info or something. or even better try to fix it :)
[07:36] <troxor> Hero_2221: boot with the recovery mode
[07:36] <locohost> so, mca and artisan can suck it, ill just dl it off of newsgroups and burn it myself, rather then buying the real dvd
[07:36] <Ububegin> misha__ : yeah, i use for my c++ and Java... vim is a bit of bitch (sometimes)... :D
[07:36] <elpargo> Hero_2221: that's because you didn't provide the right information.
[07:36] <elpargo> Hero_2221: for example saying which error you are getting.
[07:36] <misha__> The syntax highlighting for assembly in this editor is nice and intuitive.
[07:37] <Hero_2221> its right belive me i updated then it would not let me back in
[07:37] <ToneWhy> Rat409: it says 02:0a.0 Network controller: intel corporation pro/wireless lan 2100 3b mini pci adapter (rev 04)
[07:37] <viumden> usser,all right,here it is:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15733/
[07:37] <ToneWhy> Rat409: it doesn't mention the dlink at all
[07:37] <elpargo> Hero_2221: first of all it's not ubuntu's fault if it where none of us will be running it.
[07:37] <SATA> can anybody help me with iso remastering?
[07:37] <Hero_2221> i know that
[07:38] <elpargo> Hero_2221: second this user your login after does it has sudo permisions?
[07:38] <Hero_2221> i dont think so
[07:38] <Hero_2221> ?
[07:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> damageplan420: problems i ran into with POGO and ubuntu personally some POGO games are meant for windows users running IE, i've heard you could run IE through WINE as a possible workaround for that... i also had problems because my pop up blocker was enabled if you have a pop-up blocker you may have to allow pop-ups from pogo
[07:38] <elpargo> Hero_2221: you are not helping here.
[07:38] <troxor> ToneWhy: the manufacturer doesn't matter, that's why :)  with hardware, it's the chipset that's important
[07:38] <Ububegin> i have a huge collection of mp3s.. is there any application in ubuntu which can read in all the mp3 tags and create of searchable directory of sorts...
[07:38] <viumden> usser,maybe move the dri section to the end of the conf file?
[07:39] <Hero_2221> well sorry im a new user to this thing
[07:39] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: google ie4linux
[07:39] <twb> GNOME's automount infrastructure (gnome-mount?) works for CD-ROMs, but not for floppies.  How can I get floppy support in the GNOME UI (that is, without needing to give end users a command line)?
[07:39] <kari> Rat409 how to install icon theme in this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin-cystalglass?content=65373
[07:39] <ToneWhy> troxor, i see. so i have a problem?
[07:39] <Buttercu1> ﻿Anyone using gcc to compile C/C++ in Ubuntu? I'm trying to compile a very simple program, but can't. I get "error: ‘cout’ was not declared in this scope" and "error: ‘cin’ was not declared in this scope" What am I doing wrong? I can paste the program into the paste bin if you like.
[07:39] <elpargo> Ububegin: several, it depends on what you really need.
[07:40] <damageplan420> KRaZy_WaKa-- when i try to load the game i cant even get into the lobby, and there is a "X" in the corner of the applet
[07:40] <elpargo> Hero_2221: start by giving me the actual login error
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Buttercu1, Try using g++
[07:40] <Ububegin> Buttercu1: write this at the top #include <iostream> and using namespace std;
[07:40] <troxor> ToneWhy: no, you just need to find the chipset in your card. what does the sticker say on the box/card itself about a revision, so I can help you find out the chipset?
[07:40] <Hero_2221> alright give me just a sec
[07:40] <usser> viumden, shouldnt matter but yea move it there in addition try these http://paste.ubuntu.com/15734/
[07:40] <elpargo> ToneWhy: did you ran lspci on that?
[07:41] <Ububegin> elpargo: several, my mp3s are in a dvd... so I will put one dvd by one dvd...and it will create a directory...
[07:41] <Lolita-vd> hi all
[07:41] <Lolita-vd> i have layout switching problem after restart
[07:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> damageplan420: that was something i didn't have a problem with so i honestly cant offer you good advice on that
[07:41] <misha__> hey ubu don't you also have to use the compiler option -lstdc++ when compiling c++ code with gcc?
[07:41] <ToneWhy> troxor: i'll try to find it one sec.
[07:42] <misha__> (or atleast  when using the c++ standard library*)
[07:42] <Hero_2221> simply just say incorect username or password.could i have deleted something during the update?
[07:42] <elpargo> Ububegin: you mean copy the files?
[07:42] <nano_> can anybody suggest some possible "ubuntu miniprojects" that i can undertake to further my linux knowledge?
[07:42] <kari> ﻿how to install icon theme in this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin-cystalglass?content=65373
[07:42] <troxor> ToneWhy: and your card you mentioned above (intel 2100) is well supported, iirc
[07:42] <Buttercu1> ﻿Ububegin: I get even more problems when I do that. A bunch of undefined references and such.
[07:42] <elpargo> Hero_2221: and from the shell?
[07:42] <Ububegin> misha__ : it has command shell below right... i usually type the g++ blah.cpp command there
[07:42] <ToneWhy> elpargo: i ran lspci and said: 02:0a.0 Network controller: intel corporation pro/wireless lan 2100 3b mini pci adapter (rev 04)
[07:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> X in the corner of the applet could be your Java console itself i suppose I use the Open JDK package
[07:42] <Hero_2221> no
[07:43] <Ububegin> Buttercu1: g++ testFile.cpp -o testFile... do you something like this
[07:43] <misha__> Oh, I was refering to the question that was asked by someone else earlier.
[07:43] <troxor> nano_: dig up some obscure software and compile it from source, or grab a development version of some cutting edge program and compile that from source ;)
[07:43] <elpargo> Hero_2221: ok open a shell, and type passwd <otherUser> see if that works.
[07:43] <SATA> any help with iso remastering?
[07:43] <Ashfire908> My pppd scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ aren't getting run and i don't know why.
[07:43] <Ububegin> elpargo: not copy the files.. the program should just copy (absorb) all the data from the mp3 tag files
[07:43] <troxor> SATA: in what way?
[07:43] <nano_> troxor: i have compiled many programs from source....what will i learn from your task?
[07:43] <misha__> right now I'm not even writing in c (nasm -o MishaBoot.bin MishaBoot.s for me) :)
[07:44] <troxor> nano_: patience :)
[07:44] <Rat409> ToneWhy: try sudo modprobe ipw2100 then try running network manager
[07:44] <suRs> anyone know if there is any softwer for xubuntu to download torrent files?
[07:44] <Hero_2221> it just says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[07:44] <locohost> how about bittaurent
[07:44] <SATA> troxor, with debian-installer, i want to replace the kernel.
[07:44] <nano_> troxor: lol....yeah, i know what you mean.  maybe my next plan of action should be to implement an encrypted file system?
[07:44] <locohost> torrent*
[07:44] <damageplan420> KRaZy_WaKa- in the java console is says java.lang.interruptedException  no idea what that means
[07:44] <troxor> suRs: rtorrent, if you're running xubuntu for the efficiency
[07:44] <troxor> nano_: encrypted filesystem would be good, or LVM's fun too
[07:44] <SATA> troxor, how does d-i works in ubuntu-iso?
[07:45] <nano_> LVM? what is that?
[07:45] <nano_> virtual machine
[07:45] <elpargo> Ububegin: I see, and you are going to feed that to another program or something?
[07:45] <troxor> SATA: hm, not too sure, tbh...
[07:45] <Rat409> ToneWhy: i'm finding varied info,may have to use ndiswrapper and the windows driver. way past my bedtime so gotta bail if anyone else can help they will
[07:45] <locohost> logical volume management
[07:45] <suRs> troxor thanks how do i install it?
[07:45] <Flannel> SATA, troxor, Alternate CDs use d-i
[07:45] <troxor> nano_: logical volume manager, dynamic partitions
[07:45] <Rat409> night all
[07:45] <nano_> troxor: i don't know anything about that.
[07:45] <KRaZy_WaKa> damageplan420: me either try asking your question again an add in that error and hopefully somebody else could help you
[07:45] <troxor> Flannel: ah, the text mode thing?
[07:45] <suRs> sudo adp-get install rtorren ?
[07:45] <ToneWhy> troxor, i can't anywher where it says the rev. but at the back of the card it says: h/w ver C2  F/W ver 3.01
[07:45] <damageplan420> KRaZy_WaKa- i dont want the rpm version of java do i?
[07:45] <Flannel> troxor: yes, that's d-i
[07:45] <troxor> ToneWhy: therey ou go :)
[07:45] <damageplan420> KRaZy_WaKa- ok thanks
[07:45] <nano_> troxor: please sum it up in one sentence - brief explanation that is.
[07:45] <Ububegin> elpargo: nah.. as long the program just puts in a database should be fine also
[07:45] <elpargo> suRs: that should be rtorrent :)
[07:45] <Flannel> !java | damageplan420
[07:46] <ToneWhy> Rat409: thanx rat
[07:46] <Jordan_U> nano_, Isn't that the point :)
[07:46] <SATA> Flannel, so how do i replace the kernel in server-iso of ubuntu?
[07:46] <suRs> okej thanks
[07:46] <nano_> Jordan_U: toche..
[07:46] <Flannel> nano_: Partitions are abstracted away from your hardware, allowing them to exist independant of your physical drives, and also resize freely.
[07:46] <damageplan420> Flannel-- i should type that here?
[07:46] <KRaZy_WaKa> damageplan420: not a problem
[07:46] <troxor> ToneWhy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[07:46] <elpargo> Ububegin: I'm trying to find out why you need it. i know a little python script that will parse the info but it will end up in a text format, not sure if that's what you want.
[07:46] <Flannel> damageplan420: no, check that page that ubottu just gave
[07:46] <Hero_2221> it just say bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' when i put that in
[07:47] <nano_> Flannel: in what type of applicatoins is this used in?
[07:47] <achandrashekar> hello. Im running into a pxe install issue on my clients and I have assured the http location is okay. I get this - 192.168.1.155 - - [05/May/2008:15:35:59 +0200] “GET /ubuntu//dists/hardy/Release HTTP/1.1″ 200 1757 “-” “Wget”
[07:47] <achandrashekar> 192.168.1.155 - - [05/May/2008:15:35:59 +0200] “GET /ubuntu//dists/hardy/Release.gpg HTTP/1.1″ 200 189 “-” “Wget”but myh clients wont install past this. Any ideas?
[07:47] <Flannel> SATA: You'd just replace the kernel package, d-i just extracts deb files
[07:47] <Hero_2221> so i have to system restart?
[07:47] <troxor> ToneWhy: it looks like an atheros chipset- lucky you- the module's in restricted drivers
[07:47] <Ububegin> elpargo: Oh.. should be K also.. i can feed it to mySQL...
[07:47] <kari> how to add avant window navigator in startup?
[07:47] <Flannel> SATA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[07:47] <troxor> nano_: dynamic increasing/moving/renaming partitions
[07:47] <suRs> is it adp-get? or
[07:47] <elpargo> Hero_2221: huh? was that to me? please use the name of the person you are replying to.
[07:47] <nano_> troxor: i will look into this
[07:47] <elpargo> Hero_2221: and type the things in.
[07:47] <nano_> thnx for the suggestion.
[07:47] <Flannel> nano_: It's a partition thing, so it's not application specific, its just something you use, like RAID or whatnot.
[07:47] <Rolanditu> apt-get
[07:47] <Rolanditu> xD
[07:48] <nano_> Flannel: i c....
[07:48] <Hero_2221> elpargo: it says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[07:48] <suRs> ah okej thanks
[07:48] <ToneWhy> troxor, thnc, but what do i need to do now..
[07:48] <secret901> I had vmware server installed in Gutsy, but when I updated Ubuntu to Hardy, it disappeared
[07:48] <troxor> ToneWhy: what happens when you plug it in?
[07:48] <Flannel> nano_: For instance, if you had two 100GB drives, you could make a 200GB partition, or if you had a 100GB partition on a drive, and got a bigger drive, you could add the second drive to it and now have a 200GB partition, or whatever.
[07:48] <Buttercu1> ﻿Ububegin: thanks. It made the file just fine. It works to.
[07:48] <elpargo> Hero_2221: huh? what did you typed in?
[07:49] <Flannel> nano_: also, you can resize partitions both directions, and also without having to reboot or unmount
[07:49] <nano_> Flannel: that's insane, there has to be a massive performance hit with this
[07:49] <Flannel> nano_: nope
[07:49] <secret901> when I try to install Vmware server in Hardy, it's telling me that I had it installed already and needs to be uninstalled first, but I can't find it
[07:49] <ToneWhy> troxor: it doesn't have any effect
[07:49] <locohost> yawn, night
[07:49] <Hero_2221> elpargo:ntax error near  unexpected token newline'
[07:49] <elpargo> Flannel: what? you can't make a partition that's bigger than the side.
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Hero_2221, don't type the '<>'
[07:49] <nano_> Flannel: so LVM is rather an application that can achieve this.
[07:49] <troxor> ToneWhy: can you pastebin the output of `dmesg | tail`  ?
[07:49] <elpargo> Hero_2221: what command you put in that let you do that.
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Hero_2221, so it would be "passwd otheruser"
[07:49] <kari> ﻿how to add avant window navigator in startup?
[07:49] <elpargo> ohhh Flannel nm your talking about virtual stuff.
[07:49] <Ububegin> elpargo: so you still have that script  :?
[07:49] <Flannel> nano_: LVM is an abstraction layer the kernel does, its not an application
[07:50] <SATA> Flannel, < d-i     base-installer/kernel/override-image    string linux-server >   from where the name "linux-server" derived? I couldnt find the exact .deb/.udev file for it.
[07:50] <troxor> kari: system->preferences->sessions
[07:50] <elpargo> Hero_2221: what Jordan_U said without the "
[07:50] <nano_> Flannel: perhaps instead I should focus on learning how to recompile linux kernel...that sounds more of a feasible idea..?
[07:50] <hotmonkeyluv> what does the <channel> option mean in this: sudo airmon-ng start <interface> <channel>?
[07:50] <secret901> anyone know if Hardy causes the previously installed version of VMware server to not work?
[07:50] <Ashfire908> My pppd scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ aren't getting run and i don't know why, does anyone know what i can do to figure out the problem?
[07:50] <Hero_2221> elpargo: ill try it again
[07:51] <Flannel> nano_: What are you trying to do?
[07:51] <nano_> Flannel: mess around to increase my linux knowledge
[07:51] <kari> ﻿troxor:what is the name and command?
[07:51] <Hero_2221> elpargo: now it says passwd  unknown user otheruser
[07:52] <manrage> you guys ever hear of nachobid?
[07:52] <elpargo> Ububegin: http://www.diveintopython.org/object_oriented_framework/index.html#d0e11177
[07:52] <Flannel> nano_: Ah, no.  Don't waste your time recompiling.  Compiling really doesn't tell you a whole lot.  Nor would LVM, for that matter.  Um... something you could do would be... go without a GUI for a day, or something.  Something that'll let you see how everything works together.
[07:52] <Hero_2221> elpargo: is it possible that it got deleted sp how through the update?
[07:52] <SATA> Flannel, "d-i     base-installer/kernel/override-image    string linux-server" can you explain what this means?
[07:53] <Flannel> SATA: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-server  Why do you need to have a different kernel?
[07:53] <elpargo> Hero_2221: sp ?
[07:53] <nano_> Flannel: i think im pretty good without gui
[07:53] <Ashfire908> How do i set my system to use an older kernel?
[07:53] <SATA> Flannel, I want to replace the generic kernel with openvz kernel.
[07:54] <elpargo> Ashfire908: found a bug?
[07:54] <troxor> kari: name can be anything you want, command is /usr/bin/avant-window-navigator
[07:54] <Hero_2221> elpargo: because it says passwd  unknown user otheruser
[07:54] <nano_> Flannel : what about if i go about learning some inter-process programming.
[07:54] <nano_> im sure that will do me good.
[07:54] <Ububegin> elpargo: hei, i remember reading this book when I was learning Plone. Seems like I forgot about this..... :D ... thanks,dude..
[07:54] <Flannel> SATA: you might try #ubuntu-motu, although that's probably not the best place to ask re: d-i stuff.  I'm not too familiar with remastering install CDs
[07:54] <SATA> Flannel, thanx
[07:54] <Flannel> nano_: Sure.  But really recompiling won't do a whole lot.
[07:55] <elpargo> Hero_2221: oh that's bad. if you go to /home/otheruser does that still exists?
[07:55] <nano_> Flannel: thnx
[07:55] <elpargo> Ububegin: good to know, except for the plone part.
[07:55] <Flannel> SATA: maybe #ubuntu-devel, or something.  In one of these, they'll let you know where the best place would be.
[07:55] <Ashfire908> elpargo, my ppp scripts ran before, and now they don't, and radvd isn't getting computeres to use ipv6, and ddclient doesn't - whatever i'm tired and want it to work.
[07:56] <Hero_2221> elpargo: no
[07:56] <Ububegin> elpargo: Plone is opensource content management system.. www.plone.org .. if you are interested... it is constructed in python
[07:57] <neo_> I have a problem........ Ubuntu only allows me to set video to 50 mhz refresh rate
[07:57] <viumden> usser,i had done as you told,but the dri is still only for sudo
[07:57] <elpargo> Ashfire908: first of all not all of that is a kernel issue, but anyway do you know the old version? if yes do you still have it install?
[07:57] <elpargo> Hero_2221: how exactly did you "upgrade" ? did you reinstall with a new cd?
[07:58] <Hero_2221> elpargo:wait it still has file next to the current user im on
[07:58] <Hero_2221> elaprgo:file of main user
[07:58] <viumden> usser,the mark of glxgears is higher when use "sudo" prefix
[07:58] <Ashfire908> elpargo, yes, and i somewhat think it might be the kernel modules and not the actual kernel.
[07:58] <elpargo> Ububegin: it seems my sarcasm isn't good today. I'm glad that you knew python and read that book, I'm not glad that you had to go to the nightmare zope and by asoc. plone is.
[07:58] <manrage> can somebody tell me what this websites about
[07:59] <manrage> http://www.nachobid.com
[07:59] <viumden> usser,while without "sudo" the rendering is still "no"
[07:59] <suRs> how to start windows on xubuntu?
[07:59] <Ububegin> elpargo: seems like you had a bad experience in zope and plone... XD
[07:59] <elpargo> Ashfire908: sometimes reinstalling the module's package will make it work under the new kernel. specailly for the propietary ones.
[08:00] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: IEs4Linux states in regards to its legality you MUST have a valid windows license to dload and use it... i suppose the windoze COA on my HP chassis would suffice as a valid license?
[08:00] <ToneWhy> troxor: sory for delay i had to type it out by hand. because i'm workin on 2 computers.
[08:00] <elpargo> Ububegin: not at all, they are just way to entreprisy in the worst meaning of the word.
[08:00] <ToneWhy> troxor: write protect is off
[08:00] <ToneWhy> mode sense:  03 00 00 00
[08:00] <ToneWhy> assuming drive cache: write through
[08:00] <ToneWhy> 2006673 512-byte hardware sectors (1027mb)
[08:00] <ToneWhy> write protect is off
[08:00] <ToneWhy> mode sense: 03 00 00 00
[08:00] <FloodBot3> ToneWhy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: COA?
[08:01] <Ububegin> ToneWhy: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com now
[08:01] <KRaZy_WaKa> certificate of authenticity
[08:01] <KRaZy_WaKa> product key same type stuff
[08:01] <Ashfire908> elpargo, well, i'm going to totally purge it, it installed funny, how do i configure the comp to use the old kernel?
[08:01] <akiraV> hrm any idea why gdm wouldnt be executing /etc/gdm/Init/Default ?
[08:01] <troxor> ToneWhy: better yet, unplug the card, do sudo dmesg -c, plug in the card, then do dmesg. then put the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <Hero_2221> elpargo:it still has file of main user next to the current user im on
[08:01] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: oh yea as long as you ever had a new computer you have a winblows license.
[08:02] <elpargo> Ashfire908: is the old kernel still install? search for it in synaptics.
[08:02] <elpargo> Hero_2221: ok sry I got a little overwelm here, so what message did the passwd cmd gave you?
[08:02] <Ashfire908> elpargo, yes, it is.
[08:02] <ToneWhy> troxor: ok give me a sec
[08:02] <elpargo> Ashfire908: and you are using grub?
[08:03] <troxor> ToneWhy: anything with ath0 is good :)
[08:03] <usser> viumden, right, try removing AGPMode "4" and AGPFastwrite and MergeFB from section Device... other than that your config looks pretty normal, also completely get rid of section Device section screen and Monitor at the bottom of xorg.conf
[08:03] <Ashfire908> elpargo, yes, do i need to just change the menu file?
[08:03] <Hero_2221> elpargo: now it says passwd  unknown user otheruse
[08:03] <elpargo> Ashfire908: yup.
[08:03] <Flannel> Ashfire908: Just change the "default" line at the top
[08:03] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: i suppose that gives me immunity from M$ prosecution if i run IEs4linux :) and i could also dload the restricted software on microsoft.com hmm maybe i could convince my GF to switch to Linux yet hehe
[08:03] <elpargo> Hero_2221: are you sure you aren't putting any spaces around it?
[08:04] <KRaZy_WaKa> and as a bonus i DONT have to track down a Windoze OEM install CD
[08:04] <Hero_2221> elpargo: lemme check again
[08:04] <KRaZy_WaKa> valid XP key on my system I just happen to be running Ubuntu on it
[08:04] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: ohhh yes definitely you don't need the CD. it's more a legal thing so they (ie4linux developers) can cover their behinds
[08:05] <Flannel> Hero_2221: If you don't mind, pastebin the line you enter and the output it gives (just grab the whole thing and pastebin it)
[08:05] <KRaZy_WaKa> well i been working on converting my GF to Ubuntu
[08:05] <KRaZy_WaKa> and i think i just got the cannon fodder i needed
[08:06] <Hero_2221> elpargo: so i put passwd otheruser with no spaces?
[08:06] <Flannel> Hero_2221: passwd username
[08:06] <navetz> does anyone here know how HAL works. I amm getting Feature only available with HAL error messages and mounting issues.
[08:06] <elpargo> Hero_2221: you are calling a programs whose name is passwd with the parameter of the exact same login name of the other user.
[08:06] <Ashfire908> elpargo, ok, going to restart my sys, thanks.
[08:07] <elpargo> Ashfire908: welcome.
[08:07] <IntangibleLiquid> update manger updated my kernel, but I forgot to update the grub menu. How do I add the new kernel to grub?
[08:07] <Flannel> IntangibleLiquid: sudo update-grub
[08:07] <neo_> Can someone helpp me optimize my nvidia settings?
[08:07] <Flannel> IntangibleLiquid: grub should update automatically, it's not something you should have to do.
[08:07] <KRaZy_WaKa> her games HAVE GOT TO WORK! lol and she does the POGO thing so i think i just found the outlet to convert her! oh mighty gods of ubguntu bless the developers of IEs4Linux, and bless my optaining 2 PC Chassis's with valid XP Home keys lol
[08:07] <IntangibleLiquid> Flannel, thanks
[08:07] <elpargo> Flannel: was going to say that but maybe he edit it out.
[08:07] <Ashfire908> IntangibleLiquid, It does it automatically... or at least it does on my systems
[08:08] <Yachaziel> lol KRaZy_WaKa
[08:08] <KRaZy_WaKa> *ubuntu lol
[08:08] <buckhill> morning
[08:08] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: isn't that java?
[08:09] <Hero_2221> elpargo: im going to terminal and typing "passwd otheruser"
[08:09] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah but some of the games are meant just for windows users running internet explorer, that is such a crappy error message to see
[08:09] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol
[08:09] <Flannel> Hero_2221: sudo passwd otheruser
[08:09] <backslash7> I use proftpd to provide all users their home directory (chroot so they can't access system files). Can I make a symlink to /mnt/data and they can access it then ?
[08:10] <Chippermonkey> Does anybody in here know how to get a sandisk sansa fuze to be recognized on ubuntu 8.04? :/
[08:10] <KRaZy_WaKa> now that i have all the tools i have to convince a woman to change her ways... iwsh me luck lol
[08:10] <KRaZy_WaKa> *wish
[08:11] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: well I used a different strategy, just start asking about all the troubles windows has, and give the proper answer, they will be begging for you to install the good stuff.
[08:11] <viumden> usser,what if it still doesn's work?Does that mean nothing else I could do to change it?Actually the key problem is that without direct rendering enabled,the wine photoshop cs3 seems not work for me ,which indicates the opengl32.dll doesn't exit,but in fact there it is in the wine system32 directory
[08:11] <elpargo> meh, this always happens to me I come ask something, get no answer and stay at least an hour answering....
[08:11] <KRaZy_WaKa> oh and the impressionable mind of the 12 yr old step-daughter will be influenced as a result of converting the mother hehe
[08:11] <Hero_2221> Flannel:now its asking for password of current user
[08:12] <elpargo> anyone has a broadcom wifi card? got a new laptop here and it isn't working...
[08:12] <Flannel> Hero_2221: right, for sudo.  Since to change the passwd of someone, you'll need to have admin rights
[08:12] <elpargo> Hero_2221: yes go ahead it will ask you for  that then the new pass for the other 2.
[08:12] <elpargo> i mean the new pass 2 times for hte other user.
[08:13] <ToneWhy> troxor, ok i pasted before and after
[08:13] <usser> viumden, i've exhausted all my knowledge here, not sure what else u might want to try. try asking here why dri works for root only maybe someone knows the answer...
[08:14] <troxor> ToneWhy: do you have a link?
[08:14] <dolphin> hello... i'm using hardy heron & the only problem i can find is that my delete key doesn't work... can anybody help me??
[08:14] <elpargo> dolphin, laptop?
[08:14] <viumden> usser,all right,tky
[08:14] <dolphin> elpargo: yup
[08:14] <ToneWhy> troxor, paste.ubuntu.com/15740/
[08:15] <ToneWhy> troxor, paste.ubuntu.com/15741/
[08:15] <Story> I need help getting my wireless card working
[08:15] <Hero_2221> Flannel:this user im am currently using dose not have administrative rights
[08:15] <elpargo> dolphin, ok it's probably your keyboard layout. is that a std keyboard?
[08:15] <Flannel> Hero_2221: Then you won't be able to fiddle with other users' passwords.
[08:15] <ToneWhy> hey troxor, weirdly enough i think its working now!
[08:16] <troxor> ToneWhy: looks good to me- particularly that last part on the second paste :)
[08:16] <dolphin> elpargo:  looks pretty std to me... for a laptop at least
[08:16] <Flannel> Hero_2221: do you have a user you can get in to that does have admin rights?
[08:16] <elpargo> dolphin, i mean is it english and your ubuntu is english.
[08:16] <dolphin> yup
[08:16] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: i tried that, Ubuntu doesnt cost anything, doesnt get viruses, runs faster because it uses less resources, your AVG free is running out on the 31st and can't get the new AVG without service Pack 2, cant get service pack 2 because i installed windows thats less than legal as a temporary solution, cant find an OEM XP install disk to put windows on it legally
[08:16] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: yup they are all the tactics i've tried thus far
[08:16] <ToneWhy> troxor, thanks very much for the help, i'm not sure what happend but now it works just fine!
[08:16] <Hero_2221> Flannel:not at all
[08:16] <andrew_> dqwf
[08:17] <Flannel> Hero_2221: alright, you'll need to reboot and choose the recovery console from the GRUB menu (hit escape after the POST).  From there, passwd username (no sudo)
[08:17] <viumden> Need help,who knows why dri works for root only(the dri section in xorg.conf:"Mode 0666",without"Group **")
[08:17] <Flannel> Hero_2221: once you're done, init 2, will get you back to a regular boot.
[08:17] <KRaZy_WaKa> i wasn't positive i could have her POGO account 100% functional either so i never mentioned anything about games lol
[08:17] <elpargo> Hero_2221: then you will have to do something more complex like this http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub
[08:17] <troxor> ToneWhy: no prob
[08:17] <ToneWhy> troxor, i also have a problem with my graphics tho, wondering if you know what to do also. it is very very bad graphics and pixiely.
[08:18] <elpargo> hehe what Flannel said but I got you a link :)
[08:18] <dolphin> elpargo:  si, senor... english all around -- keyboard & ubuntu install
[08:19] <Hero_2221> Flannel:elpargo: thanks for the help
[08:19] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: no you are saying why this is good, you need things like it doesn't crash, you won't lose your data, it has games :)
[08:19] <Flannel> elpargo: No root password.  Oh, right.  Also, Hero_2221, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword we've got a wiki page
[08:19] <troxor> ToneWhy: perhaps someone else could help you out- I gotta get some Zs
[08:19] <ToneWhy> troxor: ok thnx very much
[08:20] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo:  i tried getting her to put midgrade gas in the car today told her at todays oil prices she isnt even getting an extra gallon by putting regular in so splurge on the vehicle it will thank you later lol that didnt work out so well either
[08:20] <Flannel> elpargo, Hero_2221, that page (the original one, at debuntu.org) is for the root password, which isn't what we're talking about (although somewhat close).  The help.ubuntu.com one is topical.
[08:20] <elpargo> dolphin, ummm then it's probably not a config issue, are you sure the key is not broken?
[08:20] <dolphin> elpargo:  works in windows
[08:21] <Hero_2221> Flannel:thank you im going to try it now
[08:21] <elpargo> Flannel: weird that page didn't got index in my google search. But it's the same method.
[08:22] <dolphin> anybody else know why the delete key on my laptop isn't working with hardy?  ...or how i'd go about remapping keys in ubuntu??
[08:22] <robg_> dolphin: keys are always a surprise.
[08:23] <elpargo> dolphin, what you have under system - pref - keyboard, layouts tab?
[08:23] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: the only thing i have to be positive will work now is the USB wireless adapter, cuz she's gonna need the Net to get on the POGO, worked fine in Gutsy, plugged it in and with one mouse click i was off and ready, not so with Hardy though, guess we got similar issues now lol
[08:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo:  remember reading something about ndiswrapper not being included with hardy or something, you may have to install it to get your broadcom working
[08:25] <dolphin> elpargo... it said generic 105 key, it didn't work... i changed it to acer laptop, it didn't work
[08:25] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: but this page says you don't need that anymore https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[08:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: t was ndiswrapper anyway, but i definitely remember reading something like 2 days prior to Hardy's release about WiFi drivers
[08:26] <elpargo> dolphin, how about the "laptop options" maybe there is something check there that's remapping it.
[08:27] <KRaZy_WaKa> maybe thats what it was... I think maybe the Devel team was wrong, seems like a lot of ppl are having problems with wireless adapters since Hardy came out
[08:28] <elpargo> dolphin, sorry that should have read "layout options" it's a button on that panel.
[08:29] <elpargo> well guys i'm out, it's late here.
[08:29] <dolphin> elpargo:  doesn't seem to have any option for delete key, other than one that speaks jibberish to me
[08:29] <it-linux> anybody can help me, is there a program software which can connect to AVR Atmel device, using C language?
[08:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: that page also says you can just click on the network to get connected, all that came up for me was wired network and point to point connection
[08:30] <elpargo> dolphin, then try turning it off maybe someone put it on by mistake ;)
[08:30] <dolphin> it was on default already
[08:30] <ariqs> what are some ubuntu packages to download and mess around with?
[08:30] <ariqs> some fun
[08:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: but i dunno, i will try to get my wireless adapter working on my computer and i'll let you know what i find out
[08:31] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: yea that's what I'm getting right now. although modprobe is working fine, but iwconfig shows nothing.
[08:31] <elpargo> dmesg says it's all good.
[08:31] <KRaZy_WaKa> elpargo: good luck and later
[08:31] <robg_> ariqs: try ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso and you may also want gparted liveCD for disk operations.
[08:31] <elpargo> dolphin, well it's a weird thing really. I guess next step is to ckech the bug tracker.
[08:31] <it-linux> is there ubotu?
[08:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah i dunno under gutsy i clicked the network icon and was set
[08:32] <elpargo> ariqs: I don't know why you think packages are fun, but you could fix bugs in them lots at the tracker.
[08:32] <ariqs> robg: I just meant a fun package to get to play around with. Like a game or some kind of interesting software
[08:32] <arie> ubuntu is the best distro!!
[08:33] <robg_> ariqs: ubuntu is in the operating systems business.
[08:33] <elpargo> KRaZy_WaKa: this is a brand new computer, so I didn't knew but if you had it working and it's not know then I guess someone mess up the package.
[08:33] <ariqs> I wish people wouldn't throw love at ubuntu. It makes me want to throw hate at it to balance out the reality
[08:33] <Cogumelo> who is the best player to divx movies in linux? i know bsplayer to windows... and in linux the best is?
[08:33]  * elpargo thinks ariqs may be a bot.
[08:33] <arie> !emerald
[08:34] <ariqs> I don't know why you would think that, human
[08:34] <arie> hi all, where i can get emerald theme, thanks before
[08:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> well i did a clean install when i moved to Hardy
[08:34] <robg_> Cogumelo: Ubuntu media players usually play movies as an image block.
[08:34] <it-linux> excuse me?
[08:34]  * elpargo is gone
[08:35] <pavel_> hey guys, i ve installed google earth on ubuntu 8.04, but it doesnt work properly, when i start it, the main window of the application blinks :(
[08:35] <Cogumelo> robg_
[08:35] <Cogumelo> vlc is best ?
[08:36] <ariqs> vlc is good, but it doesn't seem to play cds for me until I rip their protection in ubuntu.
[08:36] <robg_> Cogumelo: I believe all players are mere frontends and basically do the same thing.
[08:36] <KRaZy_WaKa> VLC definitely
[08:37] <arie> smplayer maybe??
[08:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> although I like Totem-Xine for video as well
[08:37] <robg_> Cogumelo: VLC is very popular
[08:37] <arie> SMPlayer can play any videos without any codec needed
[08:37] <legend2440> arie: http://openswitch.org/2008/04/28/how-to-enable-emerald-in-hardy-heron-804/
[08:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> VLC is a 1 stop play everything media player
[08:38] <dolphin> anyone know why the delete key on my laptop doesn't work??
[08:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> sound and video
[08:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> and its light
[08:39] <ariqs> why doesn't VLC in ubuntu play dvds that are protected for me? I always have to rip the protection to manage to play them
[08:39] <ToneWhy> hi can anyone help me with my graphics?
[08:39] <arie> dolphin : maybe u need permission for delete file
[08:39] <ToneWhy> my laptop doesn't seem to use the geforce go5200
[08:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> ariqs: not sure do you have the win32/win64 dll codecs installed
[08:39] <robg_> ariqs: same for me. Maybe legal problem. My players will only play one audio track and refuse to display subtitles.
[08:40] <dolphin> arie:  'scuze me?
[08:40] <ariqs> krazy_Waka: I never went out of my way to install them.  Win32 codecs under ubuntu?
[08:40] <suRs> were do i extract my flash boot map
[08:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> ariqs: yes
[08:40] <dolphin> arie:  what's a delete file??  i'm just trying to delete a character that i've typed
[08:40] <ariqs> what package is that?
[08:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> ariqs/robg_: win32 dll codecs should fix ya, win64 if you are running 64 bit ubuntu/processor
[08:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> medibuntu repository
[08:42] <suRs> let me check
[08:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> !medibuntu sim sim salabim
[08:42] <suRs> 31140-kill.tar.gz
[08:42] <bria3> pavel_ it should be the driver of your video card is not right installed
[08:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> !medibuntu |sim sim salabim
[08:42] <suRs> i downloaded it from http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Kill+Xfce+Balou+Theme?content=31140
[08:43] <legend2440> dolphinacer?
[08:43] <KRaZy_WaKa> sim sim salabim just because its festive lol, gotta love johnny quest
[08:43] <legend2440> dolphin   acer?
[08:43] <dolphin> legend2440... yes!!!
[08:44] <legend2440> dolphin  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766204
[08:44] <dolphin> woot!  you're a legend!
[08:44] <suRs> hay dolphin ;D
[08:45] <dolphin> suRs.... howdy
[08:45] <suRs> dolphin how do i isntall my flash boot screener? were shouldi extract it to ? http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Kill+Xfce+Balou+Theme?content=31140 downloaded this one
[08:46] <robg_> KRaZy_WaKa: Is your Win32 dll codecs the same as w32codecs ? because I already have that.
[08:46] <arie_> hi all
[08:46] <tyler_> can someone help me figure out how to access my nfs share on the client computer?
[08:46] <LaneLimited> Hello people... Can anyone tell me how to reset my themes??? It seems all the themes i choose have green text.... The themes i click on are NOT right... I'm using gnome... Thank you!
[08:47] <dolphin> suRs:  i have not messed with xfce too much, but there must be some kinda config panel with some way to install themes
[08:47] <dolphin> suRs:  otherwise, you might try googling an install directory to place that theme
[08:47] <dolphin> dunno for sure, tho
[08:47] <arie_> why my mozila firefox and pidging not work? but in konqueror thats work!, i installed kde4 in my ubuntu
[08:48] <LaneLimited> !theme
[08:48] <honeypot> arie_: the process is working able?
[08:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> robg_ yes i believe so
[08:48] <tyler_> can someone help me figure out how to access my nfs share on the client computer?
[08:48] <www2> hi all
[08:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> you have it and are still having issues with encrypted DVDs?
[08:49] <robg_> KRaZy_WaKa: Then I still cannot choose from multiple audio tracks or display subtitles.
[08:49] <suRs> dolphin okej well i have to do it later :p
[08:49] <arie_> why my mozila firefox and pidging not work? but in konqueror thats work!, i installed kde4 in my ubuntu
[08:49] <KRaZy_WaKa> robg_ maybe the DVD doesn't support mulitlanguage and subtitle
[08:50] <www2> i heft a problem with update the openoffice.org-l10n-nl and openoffice.org-l10n-en pakacks on 8.04
[08:50] <KRaZy_WaKa> what player are you using?
[08:50] <arie__> nayone can help me
[08:50] <legend2440> suRs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227416&highlight=xfce+theme
[08:51] <michael> does anyone know how to turn off the laptop monitor if you are using an external
[08:51] <robg_> KRaZy_KaKa: when I have a single language English DVD with no subtitles it plays fine, but if I have English/Spanish/Chinese it may opt for Chinese and I cannot make it play English.
[08:51] <dolphin> suRs:  you coulda tried asking in the #xubuntu channel you're already in
[08:51] <pavel_> hey, i have a question. I have downloaded realplayer 11 gold, i tried to install it in terminal (sh RealPlayer11GOLD.bin) and the result was this information: "Real.bin: 7: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" any advices? :(
[08:51] <arie__> dolphin: are u try with another os
[08:52] <dolphin> dunno what that means
[08:52] <tyler_> how do i access my nfs shares on this client computer....i got to connect to server and i dont see an option
[08:52] <dolphin> i am ubuntu!
[08:52] <tony> hi i can't get my graphics to work on my laptop can anyone help
[08:52] <legend2440> pavel_: first chmod +x RealPlayer11GOLD.bin then ./RealPlayer11GOLD.bin
[08:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> robg_: hmmm i dunno thats currently beyond my scope, i havent run across that issue yet
[08:53] <dolphin> tony:  what graphics card do you have?
[08:53] <tony> dolphin, geforce go5200
[08:53] <bpd1069> I edited a file to allow kdm-kde4 to replace gdm to try it out, now after removing kdm-kde4 I am getting a warning that $Home/.dmrc will be ignored, anyone know which file i need to edit to reset the situation - All i remember is I toggled a setting from true/false on checking for display managers
[08:53] <dolphin> tony:  go to your terminal and type in sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new
[08:54] <pavel_> legend: thanks a lot :)
[08:54] <sjovani> hi people
[08:54] <legend2440> pavel_: yw
[08:55] <maxfiles> how do I fix pulse audio?
[08:55] <tony> dolphin, ok i'll try that one sec.
[08:56] <dolphin> tony:  after that, you should just need to hit ctrl+alt+backspace and it should work.... if it doesn't work after that, you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read "nvidia" where it says "nv"
[08:57] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok all i'm out for the nite it's 4 am here, and i have to finish my computer 2moro then i have to fix a friends XP system, and figure out how to convert my gf to Ubuntu, damn i have a busy day 2moro lol nite all
[08:57] <bpd1069> ok - anyone know which file holds the settings for which desktop to run after logging into gdm?
[08:57] <tony> dolphin, for some reason my terminal is sayin timestamp too far in the future
[08:58] <dolphin> tony:  dunno what that means... is your clock configured to the right year?
[08:58] <dolphin> either way, as long as it lets you type... you're alright
[08:58] <ripps> Is it possible to install Debian Kernels in Ubuntu?
[08:58] <maxfiles> ...
[08:59] <koheleth> How do I make AWM start automatically when I login?
[08:59] <tony> dolphin, hmm i don't know i can't change it, i just recently enocunteered this. never had this before
[08:59] <kari> how can i change the size of close or minimise button on title bar?
[08:59] <tony> dolphin, i'll restart and try again
[09:00] <dolphin> tony:  can you still type in the terminal, regardless of the error message??
[09:00] <wfifi> sorry, i didn't know about nfs.
[09:00] <wfifi>  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-nfs-client-configuration-to-mount-nfs-share.html
[09:00] <tyler_> will someone plz help me with nfs on cleint computer
[09:00] <tony> dolphin, yes
[09:00] <tony> dolphin, just the sudo command doesn't work
[09:00] <dolphin> bpd1069:  i assume you mean how do you change from xfce to gnome or vice versa??
[09:00] <tony> dolphin, although it did work before
[09:00] <bpd1069> thanks anyway - just shoehorned fglrx 8.5 into hardy - off to play nexuiz for testing :D
[09:00] <dolphin> tony:  doubtful a restart will work, but you can try
[09:01] <a7c> Alrighty...I need someone with vast experience, a ton of patience, and a love for moronic newbs!
[09:01] <babolat> !ask | a7c
[09:01] <backslash7> How can I mount a NFS share read-write? If I do it in /etc/fstab with type:nfs and option rw I cannot write. But if I do it via the graphical Menu "CONNECT TO SERVER" It works! How to mount NFS read-write? (Its on another Linux machine in /etc/exports, rw allowed, works on other computers)
[09:02] <kari> how can i change the size of close or minimise button on title bar?
[09:02] <prodigel> backslash7: read about ntfs3g.
[09:03] <a7c> Where can I get a working driver for my Bcm94322mcg wlan mini-pci card that will work in Hardy-Heron?
[09:03] <backslash7> prodigel: You sure? It's NFS over the network and not a NTFS formatted hard drive... I believe you, just wanna make things clear ;)
[09:03] <maxfiles> could someone help me with fixing my pulse audio please
[09:03] <babolat> kari: Im not sure if that can be done. Try the Customize button in themes
[09:03] <babolat> !broadcom | a7c
[09:04] <prodigel> backslash7: sorry, read it wrong:D I saw nTfs, not nfs
[09:04] <backslash7> hehe lucky I asked again prodigel ;) But thanks anyway...
[09:05] <prodigel> backslash7: as far as I know nfs has no rw options. You set that by the user group rights
[09:06] <beniamino> has ubuntu managed to get a security fix out for the samba issue, or is that too much to hope fore?
[09:06] <thejranjan> how to update the source list from an offline file
[09:06] <backslash7> prodigel: Hmm okay.... Just couldn't get it handled in this specific case till now, with tue GUI of ubuntu it works lol.. anyways..
[09:06] <maxfiles> can I get an answer please?
[09:07] <babolat> maxfiles: you'll need to give the room more information about your error, how you encounter it and when, so that people know what to tell you
[09:07] <maxfiles> ok well its not working
[09:07] <maxfiles> I can not get it to auto start
[09:07] <beniamino> i guess it's too much to hope for. this has been an embarrassing few weeks for ubuntu security
[09:07] <maxfiles> and connect properly
[09:07] <maxfiles> to the pulseaudio manager
[09:07] <maxfiles> so would reinstalling pulse audio solve this?
[09:07] <a7c> babolat: my wireless card doesn't show up as installed, nor as a connection option. Am I just looking in the wrong place, or am I just dumb?
[09:07] <buckhill> anyone else notice strange behaviour with their speaker volume in 8.04 with USB headphones???  it's crazy.  I press vol -> up, and it mutes it, and then goes a random volume..
[09:08] <GibbaTheHutt> beniamino, whats the bug number ?
[09:08] <yesudeep> Did Ubuntu just release Firefox 3 final?
[09:08] <buckhill> yesudeep: No, mozilla did ;-)
[09:08] <dolphin> ubuntu doesn't release anything but ubuntu
[09:08] <[matrim]> I'm looking for a ghost software to run a single backup on a my 8,04 server. basicly a backup of the partition table and files. something that can easily be restored by the use of a boot CD, any tips?
[09:08] <babolat> a7c: so you're looking for downloadable linux drivers right?
[09:09] <yesudeep> buckhill: getfirefox.com still says "pre1"
[09:09] <a7c> yeah, I guess..I'm looking for anything to make the darn thing work -.- (is newb)
[09:09] <yesudeep> buckhill: The one I got from Ubuntu proposed repos is 3.0
[09:09] <maxfiles> I had tried to install that oss thing from the thread in the forum
[09:09] <maxfiles> and crashed everything
[09:09] <maxfiles> so can I get some help here
[09:09] <prodigel> [matrim]: partimage if I remember well does that
[09:09] <buckhill> yesudeep: They released RC1
[09:10] <buckhill> yesudeep: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html
[09:10] <buckhill> yesudeep: Enjoy :-)
[09:10] <tyler_> u know how i got to connect to server.....how do i connect to a nfs share by doing that....i see a windows option but no nfs
[09:10] <yesudeep> buckhill: I saw that.  The firefox installation on my Ubuntu machine right now reads "Firefox 3.0" in the about dialog instead of "Firefox 3.0rc1"
[09:10] <buckhill> same as me :)
[09:11] <maxfiles> so can I get some help here
[09:11] <buckhill> yesudeep: It's RC1, IYRC it says before "beta"
[09:11] <[matrim]> prodigel looked at that and the info said it copies a partition for backup, not the structure of the partition table
[09:11] <tony> dolphin, thanks alot it worked!
[09:12] <dolphin> no prob, yo!
[09:12] <babolat> a7c: i can't find any driver for that particular device. try reading up about ndiswapper
[09:12] <tony> dolphin, stil one more question, how do i configure the resolution manulaly
[09:12] <m1r> hello
[09:13] <pavel_> i ve installed real player 11, but then i tried to open it and i got this error: "could not launch menu item. Failed to execute child process "realplay" (no such file or directory)"
[09:13] <ariqs> "69 updates available" What is this, windows xp? gah
[09:13] <prodigel> [matrim]: you could the structure in a text file, I don't see how complicated that could be
[09:13] <tony> dolphin, i'm using xubuntu, but in the display icon it doesn't allow me to add resolutions or change them
[09:13] <a7c> Alright, I'll be back!
[09:13] <dolphin> tony:  for that, you definitely need to sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:13] <hub_> Have any one a Tutorial over Deamon how to start a terminal-application in boot Time ?
[09:14] <maxfiles> ok
[09:14] <maxfiles> so I guess I am not getting any help
[09:14] <[matrim]> prodigel, well it would work for me, but I need to be able to allow people with limited skill to understand it
[09:14] <dolphin> tony:  you'll need to search for example xorg.conf files thru google... but you're looking for a section that says "modelines" & then lists a buncha resolutions... you'll wanna add all the resolutions your monitor can handle to that line
[09:15] <tony> dolphin, ok thnx
[09:15] <n2diy> 2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[09:15] <[matrim]> prodigel, like an install that restores the system like it was when I backed it up without any questeiions, like just put in CD and it will ask you to backup or restore and the restore part should be as few clicks as possible
[09:15] <ariqs> is there a way to only check the important updates without getting all the other updates? cause I don't want to have to uncheck 60 boxes
[09:16] <m1r> ariqs: updates are you own saftey
[09:17] <ariqs> ml2: and there are important security updates and there are reccomended updates. I don't want the reccomended, nor can I download all the junk on dialup. I however, will do the important, but  I don't want to have to uncheck 60 other boxes
[09:17] <marathe25> I have a very strange problem: I cannot burn any CDs because the system claims they are not blank (although it does not detect any actual data), while I can burn DVDs just fine.
[09:17] <ariqs> already over 100 megs of updates and 8.04 isn't that old. pretty silly
[09:17] <maxfiles> ...
[09:17] <maxfiles> ok reinstalling pulse audio
[09:18] <DistroJockey> ariqs: change you Software Sources in the Administration area to just Important Updates
[09:18] <maxfiles> and rebooting did not work
[09:18] <maxfiles> so can I get some help here
[09:18] <m1r> ariqs: nothing is silly in update, but i guess u want edit /etc/apt/sources.list for only important upgrades
[09:18] <ariqs> thanks distro
[09:18] <DistroJockey> ariqs: you're welcome
[09:19] <maxfiles> you know what
[09:19] <maxfiles> I am about ready to have to pay for professional ubuntu support
[09:19] <marathe25> Anybody have any ideas?
[09:19] <Chousuke> modern computer systems are not fun to use with dialup internet connections ;(
[09:20] <renegade444> dial-up = trash unworthy of even $2/month
[09:20] <maxfiles> I need some help here
[09:20] <Chousuke> I'd still be upgrading my macbook to 10.5.3 if I had a dialup
[09:20] <Chousuke> (the upgrade package was 410 MB)
[09:20] <m1r> maxfiles: that dosent tell us much about your problem, many people here for help
[09:21] <maxfiles> pulse audio does not work
[09:21] <maxfiles> I explained it 5 minutes ago
[09:21] <maxfiles> I can not get it to auto start
[09:21] <maxfiles> and make sound
[09:21] <ariqs> chousuke: I have no choice in the matter. The US sucks for broadband and there is none in my area
[09:21] <m1r> maxfiles: be patient, if no people here who can help u on your problem try wait 15-20 minutes, maybe some master on pulse audio will come in
[09:22] <maxfiles> I have been waiting that long
[09:22] <Chousuke> Then you need to wait some more :/
[09:22] <Chousuke> I'd help, but I know nothing about pulseaudio
[09:23] <m1r> maxfiles: :) just take it easy , i am sure sooner or later someone who knows soulition will help you, check forums in meantime only thing i can recomend
[09:23] <maxfiles> well I am about ready to go back to windows
[09:24] <a7c> ndiswrapper instructions tell me to install my windows driver, however, the driver is in .exe format, and refuses to open.
[09:24] <dolphin> maxfiles:  you could try starting a thread at ubuntuforums.org
[09:24] <m1r> maxfiles: you welcome :)
[09:24] <dolphin> or searching for an existing thread on the topic
[09:24] <maxfiles> I have read every thread on it
[09:24] <maxfiles> and nothing answers it
[09:24] <dolphin> post your own thread then
[09:24] <dolphin> then go to sleep
[09:24] <dolphin> and awaken to enlightenment!
[09:25] <m1r> dolphin +1
[09:25] <Chousuke> maxfiles: so what exactly are you trying to do? Did it work before? what did you do before it broke? what have you done since it broke? Have you gotten any error messages?
[09:25] <DistroJockey> maxfiles: what does the following do when you type it in a terminal:   paplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[09:26] <maxfiles> I have been working on this for 4.5 hours
[09:26] <dolphin> renegade444:  what do you have against dial up??
[09:26] <maxfiles> no
[09:26] <maxfiles> that does not work
[09:26] <maxfiles> pulse audio
[09:26] <maxfiles> also
[09:26] <a7c> maxfiles: dude, I spent 5 DAYS downgrading from vista to xp when I bought my computer...patience is a very awesome virtue
[09:26] <Chousuke> maxfiles: you need to tell us the output
[09:26] <dolphin> fo' real
[09:26] <DistroJockey> maxfiles: any errors or just nothing?
[09:27] <maxfiles> nothing
[09:27] <Chousuke> hmm
[09:27] <maxfiles> nada
[09:27] <Chousuke> it should give an error if your pulseaudio is broken
[09:27] <a7c> ndiswrapper instructions tell me to install my windows driver, however, the driver is in .exe format, and refuses to open. any ideas?
[09:27] <m1r> maxfiles: it helps alot to address to people u u are speaking to
[09:27] <Chousuke> maybe your volume is just at zero? :)
[09:27] <Chousuke> sometimes happen
[09:27] <woozzy> hi all
[09:27] <maxfiles> look
[09:27] <woozzy> can i get some help please??
[09:27] <maxfiles> I'm not an idiot
[09:27] <woozzy> message me if anyone will to help
[09:27] <m1r> a7c , take driver files from windows folder or program files , should be .ini
[09:27] <a7c> woozzy: just ask the question
[09:28] <Chousuke> maxfiles: sometimes the volume gets muted. there are multiple knobs that can affect it
[09:28] <a7c> m1r: how the hell am I supposed to open it if I no longer have windows? lol
[09:28] <ryrys> woozzy, just ask
[09:28] <Chousuke> I'd check alsamixer
[09:28] <DistroJockey> maxfiles: have you had a look at   alsamixer   and checked mute and levels?
[09:28] <maxfiles> yes
[09:28] <woozzy> i have a problem with flash
[09:28] <m1r> a7c: i c, that could be problem if driver is exe
[09:29] <a7c> yes...yes it could
[09:29] <woozzy> it doesnt seem to load properly on some sites and causes it to crash
[09:29] <maxfiles> so how do I go back to base install for ubuntu for pulse audio
[09:29] <Chousuke> a7c: it could be a self-extracting exe
[09:29] <dave12> I need your help If I install apps in pc1 with ubuntu automatically pc2 with ubuntu through network install automatically in pc2 with ubuntu
[09:29] <a7c> however..if someone were willing to open it for me and send me the .ini folders, that would be pretty darn helpful
[09:29] <Chousuke> maxfiles: what did you install that broke it?
[09:29] <maxfiles> OSS
[09:29] <Chousuke> "OSS" how?
[09:30] <Chousuke> a7c: it could be a self-extracting exe
[09:30] <m1r> a7c: i would , but no win here :/ , try check Chousuke advice on self extracint exe
[09:30] <Chousuke> a7c: try running unzip on it
[09:30] <maxfiles> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780961&highlight=ALSA+lib+..%2F..%2F..%2Fsrc%2Fpcm%2Fpcm_dmix.c%3A874%3A(snd_pcm_dmix_open)+unable+to+open+slave
[09:30] <maxfiles> from that thread
[09:30] <maxfiles> how do I reverse
[09:30] <a7c> good idea chousuke... *goes to try*
[09:30] <m1r> maxfiles: please address people u are speaking to b4 you post
[09:30] <Chousuke> maxfiles: hm
[09:30] <maxfiles> I dont know whom I am speaking too
[09:31] <a7c> oh wow...i'm stupid...how do I run this "unzip" you speak of?
[09:31] <Chousuke> a7c: from the terminal
[09:31] <woozzy> also when i first load ubuntu the graphics go crazy looking and then it loads ok
[09:31] <a7c> chousuke: command line? (i'm like..brand new at this whole linux thing)
[09:31] <maxfiles> so if they want take it to pm so I can figure this out
[09:31] <Chousuke> maxfiles: hm, you obviously should reinstall the packages you removed first
[09:32] <m1r> maxfiles: tpye my name for example if u want address to me
[09:32] <DistroJockey> maxfiles: well, seeing as you are not using peoples names when you reply, we are only guessing who you are speaking to
[09:32] <kenshin> hello i need help with a freshly installed ubuntu 8?
[09:32] <a7c> kenshin: join the club!
[09:32] <maxfiles> then whom is speaking to me
[09:32] <maxfiles> about this issue
[09:33] <Chousuke> maxfiles: then look at /lib/linux-sound-base/noALSAmodprobe.conf and remove everything it contains from /etc/mobprobe.d/blacklist
[09:33] <a7c> chousuke, unzip didnt work...failed to find the file
[09:33] <Kaito_> I love how 7.10 bugged my comp and this one everyone gripes about works perfectly lol
[09:33] <maxfiles> chousuke that part failed
[09:33] <Chousuke> maxfiles: "failed"?
[09:33] <kenshin> a7c, i can't configure my network
[09:33] <Chousuke> maxfiles: how can editing a text file fail
[09:34] <maxfiles> when I went to perform the command in terminal
[09:34] <maxfiles> it said there was no file
[09:34] <a7c> kenshin: are you trying to use a broadcom wireless card?
[09:34] <kenshin> a7c, i mean my router assigns IP automatically on windows, it's not doing so for my windows
[09:34] <Chousuke> maxfiles: ah, so your alsa modules are not blacklisted
[09:34] <dolphin> kenshin:  would you like a static ip?
[09:34] <kenshin> a7c, i'm using a dlink 604 router
[09:34] <Chousuke> maxfiles: what about the sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[09:34] <kenshin> dolphin, i just want it to work
[09:34] <a7c> kenshin; ask someone else, i'm clueless >.<
[09:34] <dolphin> kenshin:  it's wired?
[09:35] <kenshin> i put the ip that dhcp assigns to windows to ubuntu, it didn'twork or i didn't know how to make it work.
[09:35] <Kaito_> whats a good way to test if your wireless card is setup ok when there is no wireless point to see around?
[09:35] <dolphin> kenshin:  you shouldn't have to change anything for dhcp to work... it should just work
[09:35] <maxfiles> chousuke where do I set that too?
[09:36] <dolphin> kenshin:  do you have windows on a separate or same machine?
[09:36] <kenshin> dolphin, it is not working. :(
[09:36] <kenshin> dolphin, i can't even open the http://192.168.0.1 router page
[09:36] <Chousuke> maxfiles: what?
[09:36] <conta> hello i am looking for persons that are using HD3650 graphic card.
[09:36] <maxfiles> chousuke ok I type that command
[09:36] <dolphin> kenshin:  wired or wireless?  and is your windows machine the same as the ubuntu machine or different?
[09:36] <maxfiles> chousuke and where do I set it too?
[09:37] <kenshin> dolphin, wired
[09:37] <Chousuke> maxfiles: what options does it give you
[09:37] <conta> are there anyone using HD3650?
[09:37] <kenshin> dolphin, the same computer, dual booted
[09:37] <maxfiles> alsa oss and default
[09:37] <dave12>  I need your help If I install apps in pc1 with ubuntu automatically pc2 with ubuntu through network install automatically in pc2 with ubuntu
[09:37] <Chousuke> maxfiles: select alsa.
[09:37] <microwaver> Is it possibl to install a build into a virtualbox using a cd that connects with a server?
[09:37] <dolphin> kenshin:  so, what is it that you changed again?k
[09:37] <maxfiles> chousuke: I did and then what?
[09:37] <Chousuke> maxfiles: I'll just confirm: did you reinstall the packages you removed?
[09:38] <maxfiles> I dont know
[09:38] <maxfiles> how do I find out
[09:38] <Chousuke> well if you don't know you obviously haven't
[09:38] <Chousuke> sudo apt-get install alsa-base
[09:38] <kenshin> dolphin, i changed dhcp into static and put the IP address that dhcp actually assigns in windows, but that didn't change anything
[09:39] <kenshin> dolphin, it's a freshly installed ubuntu
[09:39] <kenshin> Hardy heron, off a DVD
[09:39] <hischild> how would i be able to add text to an image, using command line only?
[09:39] <conta> it seems to be hard to get answer for me.
[09:39] <kenshin> btw, i couldn't configure it right when it on "run ubuntu without any changes to the computer" mode
[09:40] <hischild> conta, whatś your question then? I'm not saying i can answer, but those lines won't give you an answer either.
[09:40] <dolphin> kenshin:  hmm... i wouldn't know what to do in that case
[09:40] <kenshin> :|
[09:40] <a7c> does anyone know a way to extract an .exe driver without installing it?
[09:40] <dolphin> sorry
[09:40] <dolphin> a7c:  cabextract does that i believe
[09:40] <robg_> kenshin: you can run ubuntu from CD-ROM without affecting your harddisk.
[09:41] <hischild> a7c, try opening with archive manager.
[09:41] <conta> is there anyone knows set up restricted driver for HD3650?
[09:41] <woozzy> any ideas on flash problem?
[09:41] <kenshin> robg_, i can do that but it will still not detect my network
[09:41] <dolphin> hischild:  does that work?
[09:41] <kenshin> :|
[09:41] <a7c> dolphin; thanks! hischild; doing it on my windows machine. ubuntu refuses to open
[09:41] <hischild> dolphin, for some archives it does.
[09:41] <robg_> kenshin: if it does not detect your network then you should not install for the moment.
[09:42] <hischild> kenshin, are we talking about wireless?
[09:42] <robg_> kenshin: if you have fairly standard hardware try another CD.
[09:42] <kenshin> i'm talking about wired
[09:42] <dhamma> i need to reinstall hardy, but the install partitioning program will not read my partitions...however, when i boot into ubuntu and run cfdisk the partitions shows up...so basically the only option the install disk gives me is to create a new table on the entire disk and i can't have that, so now what?
[09:42] <kenshin> robg_, i first tried ubuntu 8 's CD, didn't work
[09:42] <hischild> kenshin, and it won't detect it what way? as in the hardware or just the network?
[09:42] <kenshin> then i tried kubuntu 8 's cd, didn't work
[09:42] <kenshin> now it's ubuntu 8 's DVD
[09:43] <kenshin> i'm really tired at this moment
[09:43] <robg_> kenshin: if you have tried several CDs then your hardware may not be compatible.
[09:43] <mrynit> is there a way to auto clean my install
[09:43] <kenshin> it is compatible with windows, :|
[09:43] <a7c> hischild: archive manager returns "and error occurred while loading the archive", I'm gonna go with the cabextract idea
[09:43] <hischild> dhamma, you can install over your old install during the installation.
[09:43] <dolphin> kenshin: try opening terminal and typing in lshw to see if your ethernet card is found
[09:43] <kenshin> i think it detects my ethernet card
[09:43] <hischild> a7c, if all else fails you can try to use wine to extract it (that's usually my last resort)
[09:43] <kenshin> wait
[09:43] <robg_> kenshin: for the moment stay with Windows and do some further research on Google.
[09:44] <hischild> kenshin, lspci and look for network?
[09:44] <kenshin> it's eth0, IMO
[09:44] <a7c> hischild: dont have wine, never even heard of it, gonna try cabextract. brb >.<
[09:44] <hischild> !wine > a7c (for when you get back)
[09:44] <hischild> how would i be able to add text to an image, using command line only?
[09:44] <conta> i didn't know that HD3650 was rare item.. i can't find users using HD3650..
[09:44] <dhamma> hischild: it won't install without going through the partitioning step...i cannot assign mount points to each partition because the partitioning program doesn't see my partitions for some odd reason...neither does gparted under x...but cfdisk sees them
[09:45] <robg_> dhamma: a re-install overwrites previous installs.
[09:45] <hischild> dhamma, i see. Are you running gparted with root priv's?
[09:45] <dhamma> robg_: it won't install unless it knows which partition / will go on...
[09:45] <woozzy> ??
[09:46] <dhamma> hischild: yes, that's the only way gparted will execute
[09:46] <hischild> dhamma, it'll also execute without root priv when run from command line
[09:46] <ompaul> dhamma what you do is choose "manual" when it gets to disk partitioning and take it from there, problems with that please document them and come back to us
[09:46] <microwaver> which virtualisation software do you guys recommend? virtualbox or vmware (ubuntu 7.10)
[09:46] <conta> is gparted a partitioning program?
[09:46] <microwaver> conta, yes
[09:46] <dhamma> ompaul: i'm accessing it from the menu
[09:46] <microwaver> conta, also a weapon of mass destruction :)
[09:46] <robg_> dhamma: advice: write media files to removable disk, wipe disk clean with Gparted LiveCD, install Ubuntu Alternate in single boot.,
[09:47] <conta> cool~~
[09:47] <incorrect> what is the fastest way of deleting a large directory, over 600GB of small 10k files
[09:47] <microwaver> conta, it says so if you try to run it when u wnt to gksudo it :)
[09:47] <ompaul> dhamma, the way to do it is to use the install icon and move from there - it will offer you the drive choose manual then convert some partition for your own use
[09:47] <dolphin> hischild:  image editing thru command line?  sounds hardcore!
[09:47] <microwaver> which virtualisation software do you guys recommend? virtualbox or vmware (ubuntu 7.10)
[09:47] <dhamma> robg_: yes, i just don't have access to removable drive big enough to hold all my data at the moment
[09:47] <hischild> robg_, that is not possible for some of us, who have 500gb of data on an internal drive with 100 for ubuntu left ....
[09:47] <conta> :)
[09:47] <robg_> incorrect: Gparted LiveCD.
[09:48] <kenshin> robg_, dolphin , hischild http://paste.ubuntu.com/15748/
[09:48] <ompaul> !install | dhamma there are other ways to install, maybe you should have a look around here
[09:48] <a7c> wow...i'm stupid...how do I install cabextract? (its in .tar.gz format)
[09:48] <incorrect> robbie``, ?
[09:48] <kenshin> :)
[09:48] <kenshin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15748/ , it detects my NIC , IMO
[09:48] <hischild> dolphin, well what i want to achieve is to have the songtext which i have in a directory to be put on the background which is in another directory. I can find out what song im playing with mpc, but now i want to put it on the background
[09:49] <hischild> kenshin, does your network use DHCP?
[09:49] <kenshin> hischild, yessir
[09:49] <hischild> a7c, sudo aptitude install cabextract ?
[09:49] <ompaul> a7c, use your repos sudo apt-get install cabextract orange  << they might help a lot
[09:49] <hischild> KenSentMe, sudo ifconfig -a please
[09:49] <dhamma> ompaul: i went into manual from the install cd...i'm not sure which partitioning program the alternate cd uses (i have lvm volume groups on two of the partitions)...in any case, it lists the device /dev/sdb, but no partitions whatsoever
[09:49] <kenshin> the IPs don't get assigned automatically on ubuntu
[09:49] <KenSentMe> hischild, wrong nick :)
[09:49] <robg_> incorrect: what idiot puts 500 Gb of multimedia files on his primary disk ?
[09:49] <hischild> KenSentMe, tnx
[09:49] <a7c> hischild: thanks!
[09:49] <hischild> kenshin, sudo ifconfig -a please
[09:50] <kenshin> but it does perfectly on windows, i'm on dual boot between windows and ubuntu ATM
[09:50] <ompaul> dhamma, never worked with lvm except for dedicated installs
[09:50] <incorrect> robbie``, its in its own partition
[09:50] <a7c> hischild: that kinda failed actually...do i need to extract it first?
[09:50] <kenshin> hischild, i have to reboot :| i don't wanna reboot
[09:50] <hischild> kenshin, that it works in  windows doesnt say anything about whether itĺl work on ubuntu
[09:50] <dhamma> ompaul: i'm going to take screenshots of gparted and cfdisk and show you what i'm talking about
[09:50] <dolphin> robg_:  i have 500gb of multimedia files on all my disks!
[09:50] <hischild> kenshin, go to hardware drivers and check if it needs restricted ones.
[09:51] <robg_> incorrect: if you loose access to that partition you loose access to all the multimedia files.
[09:51] <tony> dophin, i rebooted my system a second time and the grphics went back to before.
[09:51] <hischild> a7c, do, you have to execute this --> sudo aptitude install cabextract
[09:51] <ompaul> dhamma, ok - I may have to run in the next few but there are others here for whom that would be useful
[09:51] <robg_> dolphin: do some backup.
[09:51] <kenshin> hm
[09:51] <hischild> How can i put a text on an image? ==> what i want to achieve is to have the songtext which i have in a directory to be put on the background which is in another directory. I can find out what song im playing with mpc, but now i want to put it on the background
[09:51] <incorrect> robg_, i don't want to zap them all, just down one branch
[09:51] <kenshin> hischild, is there like a manual that i can read about it?
[09:51] <hischild> kenshin, about what?
[09:51] <incorrect> faster way than rm ?
[09:51] <kenshin> hischild, about networks, dhcp, ubuntu
[09:52] <dolphin> robg_:  never had a hard drive problem in more than 10 years... i must be lucky with my seagate collection
[09:52] <robg_> dolphin: I hear stories of people unable to get into their computers with no other option than to re-install.
[09:52] <a7c> sudo aptitude install cabextract" returns "couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "cabextract", should i includ .tar.gz in the command line?
[09:53] <pwnt> hmm
[09:53] <kenshin> okey then i'll "sudo ifconfig -a" get the results
[09:53] <a7c> nvm..that didnt work
[09:53] <hischild> kenshin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[09:53] <kenshin> thanks for you time btw :)
[09:53] <hischild> a7c, sudo aptitude update
[09:53] <kenshin> it's not wifi
[09:53] <hischild> a7c, and then try again please
[09:53] <kenshin> it's wired
[09:53] <dolphin> robg_:  even still, the data's still gonna be there... i've mounted other hard drives that have crashed and recovered 99+% of the data
[09:53] <conta> kenshin, i have got same message yesterday. do you use either ubuntu or windows??
[09:54] <a7c> hischild: what exactly did that acheive? (besides displaying a bunch of errors)
[09:54] <kenshin> conta, both, dual boot
[09:54] <robg_> dolphin: I am sure there are nerds who can perform miracles but normal people have to be able to work with computers too.
[09:55] <dolphin> i do worry about hard drive crashes happening, but i can't wait 'til SSDs are cheaper.... then I'll never have to worry
[09:55] <hischild> a7c, sudo aptitude install cabextract shoudl install cabextract. If that won work because it cant find it, then type sudo aptitude update
[09:55] <conta> if you get ip address through DHCP from windows, Ethernet card can't get another ip address for a long time.. about 1 hour?
[09:55] <conta> so you can't use internet at ubuntu..
[09:55] <hischild> conta, depends on the dhcp server
[09:55] <microwaver> !vmware | microwaver
[09:56] <robg_> dolphin: you are only talking multimedia, but companies cannot take such risks with their company files.
[09:56] <conta> oh~ yeah
[09:56] <Trackilizer> Hey guys, need your help. Usually Ubuntu detects and mounts all my hard disks, for some strange reason however only one other drive was mounted this time after install, so how do i mount my other media hard disk?
[09:56] <a7c> hischild: neither of those worked -.-
[09:56] <hischild> a7c what did the command << sudo aptitude update >> give you? please pastebin that.
[09:56] <dolphin> robg_:  certainly not, they have the money to waste on such endeavors
[09:57] <hischild> Trackilizer, places and see if your drive is there.
[09:57] <robg_> dolphin: companies should make multiple copies and store in different locations.
[09:57] <conta> because i couldn't get proper ip address from my dhcp server, i changed os as ubuntu.
[09:57] <a7c> hischild: can't paste...irc is on a separate computer, as ubuntu comp has no internt -.-
[09:57] <Trackilizer> No, its not. Only my ipod and a CD have been mounted.
[09:58] <hischild> a7c, explains why it wont install that package. Can you get ubuntu pc with internet? Do you know how the repo's work?
[09:58] <conta> beginner's sorrow.. i don't know what i can do using Ubuntu~...:)
[09:59] <a7c> hischild, dunno what repo is, cant get internet on ubuntu pc, no hardline available -.-
[09:59] <dolphin> robg_: agreed
[09:59] <hischild> !repo | a7c
[10:00] <Don_Miguel> Trackilizer : Is that missing drive an IDE ?  in Hardy if they are detected, they seem to be mounted as SATA .. so sda instead of hda
[10:00] <Trackilizer> Don_Miguel: Yes its an IDE drive
[10:01] <hischild> How can i put a text on an image? ==> what i want to achieve is to have the songtext which i have in a directory to be put on the background which is in another directory. I can find out what song im playing with mpc, but now i want to put it on the background
[10:02] <a7c> grrr... Is it possible to open a windows driver file on a windows machine without installing it?
[10:02] <Don_Miguel> Trackilizer : I have the same problem ... let me see if I can find the suggestions I was given <grin>
[10:03] <Trackilizer> Ok! thanks
[10:03] <ompaul> a7c, ask in ##windows please it is slightly offtopic for here :)
[10:05] <kenshin> hischild, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15750/  Please don't make me reboot again :)
[10:05] <hischild> kenshin, you should now have internet. And did you reboot cuz you activated drivers?
[10:06] <kenshin> hischild, i don't have internet on ubuntu :(
[10:06] <a7c> alright, I managed to get the .exe driver file opened, there isnt a .inf file, only .sys and .cva. are either of those useful?
[10:06] <hischild> kenshin, you do have an ip on that now.
[10:06] <kenshin> i rebooted because you wanted me to sudo ifconfig -a
[10:07] <kenshin> what ip?
[10:08] <hischild> kenshin, i never made you reboot. sudo ifconfig -a gives you all the network interfaces, including those which are down. Why would you reboot/
[10:08] <hischild> inet addr:192.168.0.162  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[10:08] <kenshin> hischild, i can connect only when i'm on windows
[10:08] <plasmotron> hi guys
[10:08] <backslash7> haha
[10:08] <Don_Miguel> Trackilizer : Sorry, I lost some stuff which forced a re-install from CD ... as I recall, you need to check your fstab and mstab ... and look for the right size disks, but shown as sdaX ....I thinkthere IS a way to get Ubunto to recognize and mount those .. but I do not remember SEEING that trick ...yet. good luck, and ... you may want to ask again.. so someone who CAN make it work can help you ( and me too ! )
[10:08] <backslash7> this is fun
[10:08] <plasmotron> I was wondering what you think about this idea :http://www.linux.com/forums/topic/1874
[10:08] <kenshin> *i can use irc only when i have connection, i have connection in windows only
[10:09] <a7c> alright, I managed to get the .exe driver file opened, there isnt a .inf file, only .sys and .cva. are either of those useful? (attempting to use ndiswrapper)
[10:09] <hischild> Trackilizer, please give me the output of mount and sudo fdisk -l
[10:09] <plasmotron> (you're welcome to answer the post
[10:09] <hischild> kenshin, how did you output that then?
[10:09] <Trackilizer> /dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[10:09] <Trackilizer> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[10:09] <Trackilizer> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[10:09] <Trackilizer> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[10:09] <Trackilizer> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[10:09] <FloodBot3> Trackilizer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:09] <Trackilizer> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <backslash7> a7c: What are you trying to do? I'd need to have a windows Modem drivr converted to ubuntu too :P
[10:10] <hischild> Trackilizer, on pastebin please .
[10:10] <kenshin> hischild, i saved it on my fat windows partition
[10:10] <hischild> kenshin, i would like to see your current information ...
[10:10] <conta> ho.. not bad plasmotoron?
[10:10] <kenshin> hischild, on?
[10:10] <ariqs> backslash:what modem do you have?
[10:10] <a7c> backslash7: i'm attempting to use ndiswrapper to use my windows driver to operate my wireless card. Guide here:: http://devangelist.blogspot.com/2008/03/ubuntu-804-beta-hardy.html
[10:10] <kenshin> i'm on windows right now
[10:10] <conta> is there a site like that?
[10:10] <hischild> kenshin, sudo ifconfig -a and please name the network interfaces you see.
[10:11] <backslash7> kenshin: What are you trying do to?
[10:11] <Trackilizer> hisschild: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15751/
[10:11] <backslash7> ariqs: Netopia 3342 (cheap one, emulates LAN connection via USB lol)
[10:11] <kenshin> backslash7, trying to bring network to ubuntu, ubuntu doesn't detect dhcp from my router
[10:11] <kenshin> hischild, what do you mean my network interfaces?
[10:11] <backslash7> kenshin: Uh strange... dhclient?
[10:11] <ompaul> robg_, I am about to send you a pm
[10:11] <hischild> kenshin, ok. sudo ifconfig eth0 and see if it has an ip.
[10:12] <a7c> AHA! found the .inf file...where am I supposed to put it? (ndiswrapper)
[10:12] <hischild> Trackilizer, use tab to complete my nick. Please give me the output of sudo fdisk -L
[10:12] <kenshin> backslash7, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15748/  << dhclient gave this
[10:13] <Trackilizer> hischild: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15752/
[10:13] <m1r> a7c: load it with ndiswrapper
[10:13] <hischild> Trackilizer, sorry my bad. Lowercase L on the end, not a capital.
[10:14] <white_eagle> I found out that I couldn't change the keyboard layout to MK (Macedonian) anymore with both the keyboard shortcut and the panel indicator, so I went to keyboard preferences clicked on the "Layouts" tab and reseted the keyboard layouts and then an error window hopped out (this one - http://i32.tinypic.com/2ztkrc4.png ) so I did as it told me -- i will post the results of "xprop -root | grep XKB" and of "gconftool-2 -R
[10:14] <white_eagle> /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd" before and after reseting and readding the MK layout - here they are http://pastebin.com/m764b6f85 .
[10:14] <white_eagle> how can I make it work?
[10:14] <Ben_Cs> hello
[10:14] <m1r> white_eagle: try reconfigure keyboard with X ?
[10:14] <conta> i need some hints for setting HD3650 graphic card up on ubuntu pc. if you have, tell me plz~..
[10:14] <a7c> m1r: guide says to use "ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf" command line, returns error, "no such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 219" wth does that mean?
[10:14] <white_eagle> m1r: what command?
[10:14] <Trackilizer> hischild: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15753/
[10:15] <m1r> white_eagle: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , take care for kyeboard config in process
[10:15] <Ayabara> my webcam works in cheese, but not in ekiga.
[10:15] <Ben_Cs> i'm having trouble setting up my usb speakers. i have an option of choosing "usb sound" device, but i get no sound.
[10:15] <m1r> a7c: open windows driver under system>adminsistration , then load driver .ini there
[10:16] <hischild> Trackilizer, ok one more command. ==> sudo mount /dev/sda1
[10:16] <white_eagle> m1r: thanks
[10:16] <m1r> white_eagle: pogledaj pazljivo
[10:16] <magnetron> Ayabara: is ekiga set to V4L or V4L2?
[10:16] <white_eagle> m1r: ok
[10:16] <Trackilizer> hischild: mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:17] <hischild> Trackilizer, and what is written in /etc/fstab? ==> sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit (provide link in channel)
[10:17] <hischild> Trackilizer, problem is that your HD is not mounted as its not written in fstab most likely.
[10:18] <clusty> hey
[10:18] <dhamma> gparted sees my lvm partition which resides on /dev/sdb http://i30.tinypic.com/2jb3aqr.jpg but it will not see the partitions on /dev/sdb directly http://i26.tinypic.com/2eeific.png however, cfdisk sees all the partitions on /dev/sdb http://i31.tinypic.com/xqm83p.png
[10:18] <Dustan> anyone using google desktop?
[10:18] <wild_oscar> any compiz guru out there: some of my desktop effects stopped working after upgrading to hardy
[10:19] <Trackilizer> hischild: http://pastebin.com/f2a3fc9b4
[10:19] <white_eagle> wild_oscar: visit #compiz-fusion
[10:19] <white_eagle> Dustan: yes
[10:19] <a7c> m1r: system>admin>windows drivers returns "invalid driver"
[10:19] <white_eagle> Dustan: I do
[10:19] <wild_oscar> I have a post in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811973
[10:19] <m1r> a7c: u got any other files u can load in ndis ?maybe .inf ?
[10:20] <wild_oscar> white_eagle: they have no idea what it could be...
[10:20] <white_eagle> wild_oscar: I will see the post
[10:20] <Dustan> how can I have it index my entire hd
[10:20] <Ayabara> magnetron: V4L
[10:20] <m1r> wild
[10:20] <a7c> m1r: driver folder contains only 1 .inf file, rest are .cat and .sys
[10:20] <Ayabara> magnetron: V4L2 isn't a choice for me in the preferences
[10:20] <hischild> Trackilizer, ok now let me sum that all up. You have a windows partition on your first HD, a swap and ubuntu, and your second HD has 1 partition that has a fat32 partition .... correct?
[10:20] <m1r> wild_oscar: what graphic card ? did u install compiz-fusion icon , did u renable effects ? did u load driver with 8.04 ?
[10:21] <m1r> a7c: i dont know which file could be so my only guess try 1 by 1, imo should be ini or inf
[10:21] <Trackilizer> hischild: yes! exactly, the FAT32 drive is where most my data is on, and is the drive that i want to mount.
[10:22] <a7c> m1r: random error apparently...now displays "hardware present: yes:" what would the next step be?
[10:22] <magnetron> Ayabara: it's an option in MY settings, and i don't even have a webcam.
[10:22] <wild_oscar> m1r: Nvidia 8600 FTS; what icon?; after upgrading to hardy, I had to change the effects from Custom (don't show in the preferences anymore) to extra
[10:22] <woozzy> ??
[10:22] <hischild> Trackilizer, ok. It does appear to be mounted, so lets unmount it first before we mount it to a more proper location, as the name appears screwed. ==> sudo umount /dev/sdb2
[10:23] <white_eagle> m1r: I reconfigured it, it still doesn't work, should I reboot?
[10:23] <wild_oscar> m1r: nvidia driver? I didn't install anything, it's using the restricted drivers by default, don't know if it changed to a new version in the upgrade from gutsy
[10:23] <white_eagle> m1r: I haven't rebooted
[10:23] <m1r> a7c: if ndis detected, try reconf network
[10:23] <Trackilizer> hischild: yes, its unmounted
[10:23] <m1r> wild_oscar: gsearch in synaptic for compiz-fusion icon
[10:23] <m1r> white_eagle: log out , log in
[10:23] <hischild> Trackilizer, then create the dir to mount it at ==> sudo mkdir /media/storage
[10:23] <a7c> m1r: network settings still doesn't recognise wireless card -.-
[10:23] <white_eagle> m1r: ok
[10:24] <hischild> Trackilizer, and finally mount it ==> sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/storage
[10:24] <m1r> a7c: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:24] <Dustan> Anyone know how to make google desktop index my entire hd?
[10:25] <wild_oscar> m1r: I don't have such icon
[10:25] <m1r> wild_oscar: check in synaptic for package compiz-fusion icon
[10:25] <Trackilizer> hischild: That worked, however thats my ipod and not my 110GB drive.
[10:25] <hischild> Trackilizer, 0.)
[10:25] <bazhang> http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/06/28/how-to-install-setup-and-use-google-desktop-search-in-ubuntu/ Dustan
[10:26] <hischild> Trackilizer, hmm ... you have a _SECOND_ hd in there, right?
[10:26] <a7c> m1r : sudo/etc/init.d/networking restart returns" reconfiguring network interfaces... [ok]" wireless still not present under network options
[10:26] <a7c> m1r: is it possible due to ssb?
[10:26] <hischild> Trackilizer, sudo umount /dev/sdb2 to unmount it
[10:26] <m1r> a7c: ssb?
[10:27] <microwaver> is it possible to rename a .rpm to a .tar.gz and untar it ? or is this the stupidist question ever?
[10:27] <tyberion> hmm, can anyone tell me a good application for widgets on my desktop?
[10:27] <a7c> m1r:nvm...misread guide
[10:27] <m1r> tyberion: screenlets
[10:27] <m1r> a7c:  working now ?
[10:27] <bazhang> microwaver, what file
[10:27] <tyberion> m1r: thnx
[10:27] <a7c> m1r: nope -.- still doesn't show
[10:27] <microwaver> bazhang, VMware_Workstation...
[10:27] <michael> anyone here use GIMP? or is there a GIMP channel?
[10:27] <bazhang> tyberion, screenlets
[10:27] <a7c> m1r: it's possible i'm looking for it in the wrong place...where should i be looking?
[10:28] <sandraaaaa> hi is it possible to make ubuntu 8,04 to ubuntu muslim edition thx in advance
[10:28] <hischild> Trackilizer, have to go :( iĺl be back in half an hour, shout for me around 12 and ill help on, k?
[10:28] <bazhang> microwaver, there is a ubuntu version of that iirc
[10:28] <m1r> a7c:  it should pop out in network manager if ndis installed corectly
[10:28] <microwaver> bazhang, that iirc?
[10:28] <Trackilizer> hischild: Ok, thanks alot
[10:28] <bazhang> microwaver, let me find a link hang on
[10:28] <microwaver> bazhang, praise you.
[10:28] <plagerism> microwaver use alien
[10:29] <a7c> m1r: for the sake of humoring my assumption that i'm stupid...we're talking about system>admin>network, right?
[10:29] <mrtimdog> What's the easiest way to syncronise between machines specific gconf settings? I.e., gnome-terminal profiles.
[10:29] <bazhang> plagerism, not needed here
[10:29] <plagerism> it'll make a tarball for you
[10:29] <m1r> a7c: also there
[10:29] <tlnxt> dsd
[10:29] <a7c> m1r: where exactly were you speaking of?
[10:29] <m1r> a7c:  check there
[10:29] <wild_oscar> m1r: and then what?
[10:29] <anirudh0> bazhang: is'nt vmware propreitary?
[10:30] <m1r> wild_oscar: u insstalled it ?
[10:30] <wild_oscar> m1r: ys
[10:30] <a7c> m1r: system>admin>network shows only wired connection and point to point connection
[10:30] <m1r> wild_oscar: now run it and enable compiz , also make sure your driver and effects are turned on
[10:31] <cl10> surabaya
[10:31] <m1r> a7c: seems it didnt catch the driver, can u just recheck ndiswraper windows drivers to see if it is loaded there please?
[10:31] <microwaver> bazhang, so, not quite allright then?
[10:31] <xeugene> anybody can tell me about kexi
[10:31] <bazhang> http://blog.zmang.com/installing-vmware-workstation-65-beta-on-ubuntu-hardy-heron-804-faqs/ microwaver there are several other links with ubuntu hardy vmware workstation as well
[10:31] <wild_oscar> m1r: it was already enabled. (select window manager - compiz was selected)
[10:32] <xeugene> can support a ms access database
[10:32] <a7c> m1r: wireless network drivers "bcmwl5: hardware present: yes"
[10:32] <bazhang> microwaver, that is for the beta, use those search term to find version 5.56 as well
[10:32] <Dustan> Anyone know how to make google desktop index my entire hd? a "/" isn't working
[10:32] <bazhang> anirudh0, aye, and pay version
[10:32] <m1r> a7c: then is loaded
[10:32] <anirudh0> Dustan: would'nt you need to run it as root for that to happen?
[10:32] <m1r> wild_oscar: check your effects settings and compiz config
[10:32] <bazhang> Dustan, you did not see the link I gave you?
[10:33] <anirudh0> bazhang: then why not recommend xen or one of the other alternates?
[10:33] <microwaver> bazhang, i'm using gutsy :)
[10:33] <bazhang> anirudh0, he asked how to get that going.
[10:33] <anirudh0> xeugene: not a good idea
[10:33] <m1r> a7c: try reboot ? not that it should matter but just for case
[10:33] <a7c> m1r: apparently it is, as "ndiswrapper -i bcmw15.inf" returns "driver is already installed". this doesn't explain why it doesnt show up.
[10:33] <a7c> m1r: lol, rebooting
[10:33] <anirudh0> xeugene: koffice is a great app..but less compatible with ms office than oofice
[10:33] <bazhang> microwaver, then ubuntu gutsy vmware workstation will do the same as far as search results
[10:34] <niuq> there is an application for viewing what is the hardware i have installed, with the corresponding dma, I/O, irq, for each device
[10:34] <wild_oscar> m1r: the settings manager goes to the ccsm window
[10:34] <niuq> ?
[10:34] <microwaver> bazhang, i'm just going to vmware, because it seems to be virtualbox doesn't do as asked
[10:34] <anirudh0> niuq: hwinfo
[10:34] <anirudh0> niuq: cmd line
[10:34] <DarKKer666> hey, nice people, i have some problem, my lcd 17" widescreen monitor, goes black, when i start ubuntu 8.04, when i install the private drivers for my videocard nvidia, it seems like the monitos dont support more than 1280x720, and in the xorg.conf file, can change that some one have the same problem?
[10:35] <m1r> wild_oscar: turn effects ON and load your favourite plugins
[10:35] <bazhang> microwaver, no need for workstation; server is in canonical partner repos
[10:35] <niuq> anirudh0: i have to install it?
[10:35] <microwaver> bazhang, can it make images as well?
[10:35] <anirudh0> niuq: yes
[10:35] <bazhang> microwaver, sure
[10:35] <a7c> lol...rebooting with install disc still in scared the crap outta me
[10:35] <microwaver> bazhang, aha, thats handy cuz they're free :)
[10:35] <wild_oscar> m1r: ezoom and swift switcher ARE turned on; their shortcut keys don't produce the expected result
[10:35] <niuq> anirudh0: alright, thank you
[10:36] <MGalaxy> hello, I need a DNS IP Address, anyone can help me PLZ?
[10:36] <bazhang> microwaver, you can also download appliances (pre-configured distros etc) from vmware site and places like linuxtracker.org
[10:36] <wild_oscar> m1r: swift switcher, for example (Super+Tab), fades to the desktop while I'm pressing the super key, but the windows aren't shown
[10:36] <a7c> m1r: reboot did nothing -.- *kills self*
[10:36] <m1r> wild_oscar: did u check you enabled effects ?
[10:36] <niuq> anirudh0: and there's not an X app?
[10:37] <wild_oscar> m1r: yes, both ezoom and swift switcher are ticked...
[10:37] <m1r> a7c: strange, if driver detected in ndis it "should" work
[10:37] <anirudh0> niuq: afaik, not in gnome..remember something was there in kde 3.5
[10:37] <m1r> wild_oscar: system>preferences>apperance -- effects
[10:37] <wild_oscar> m1r: "extra"
[10:37] <anirudh0> niuq: ubuntu had a nice hardware info gui in dapper..wonder where that has disappeared now
[10:37] <m1r> a7c: u use 32bit install ?
[10:37] <babolat> TvTime is giving me "no signal". How do I make my Pixelview PlayTV Pro BT878 work in gutsy?
[10:38] <microwaver> bazhang, what I want to do is install a build from my work place in a vm machine. that means. Starting Vmware, putting in 'install disk' (the install disk just asks for which driver to pick and then pulls a windows xp over the network from the server) and that doesn't seem to work in vbox
[10:38] <wild_oscar> m1r: the other effects are working. only these two don't work (from the ones I tested)
[10:38] <m1r> wild_oscar: then compiz is runing, correct ?
[10:38] <a7c> m1r: my computer is 64bit...so that would have been unwise. >.<
[10:38] <niuq> anirudh0: now is just hwinfo, and viewing the files i think, like /proc/dma, /proc/ioports
[10:38] <m1r> a7c: i had problems with ndis and 64bit :/ while on 32bit it work flawlesly
[10:38] <bazhang> microwaver, best place would be vmware forums though I will google for it as well
[10:38] <wild_oscar> m1r: I can rotate the cube, even use the useless water effect
[10:38] <wild_oscar> m1r: yes
[10:39] <a7c> m1r: install file i used is "Ubuntu 8.04 amd64"
[10:39] <m1r> wild_oscar: then is problem with your plugin settings, i cant help u there
[10:39] <wild_oscar> m1r: I even reinstalled compiz
[10:39] <a7c> m1r: wouldnt using 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit machine cause...issues?
[10:39] <m1r> a7c: no
[10:39] <rpedro> anyone know of a central place for issues and workarounds for ubuntu amd64?
[10:39] <wild_oscar> m1r: as explained here as well: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?p=59248#post59248
[10:40] <a7c> m1r: grrr...install file link?
[10:40] <rpedro> I'm thinking of switching, for the speed
[10:40] <m1r> a7c: wait
[10:40] <bazhang> rpedro, here, launchpad answers and ubuntuforums
[10:40] <rpedro> k
[10:40] <m1r> a7c: check lspci for wlan network card
[10:41] <bazhang> rpedro, no real substantial speed increase really; unless you are doing heavy video compositing or have a huge amount of ram
[10:41] <rpedro> tried google, no page like that exists, so figured if it does it must be pretty well hidden
[10:41] <a7c> m1r: lspci returns "network controller: broadcom corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)"
[10:41] <bazhang> rpedro, 32 bit works just as well and fewer headaches (cf flash and other bits)
[10:41] <m1r> a7c: it is there
[10:42] <m1r> wild_oscar: sry m8, if compiz is runing i cant help you with plugins as i dont use that ones :/
[10:42] <microwaver> bazhang, Did that, but theres  50% chance its due to the installation option they use here, atht he flemish government
[10:42] <a7c> m1r: yeah...i know it's there, you know its there, the computer even knows its there...WHY ISNT IT WORKING?!?
[10:42] <rpedro> bazhang: is it true every app needs to be 64 bit? or just stuff like java and flash?? if so, why?
[10:42] <m1r> a7c: lets try remove ndiswrapper and see if card still detected
[10:42] <m1r> a7c: wait
[10:43] <babolat> TvTime is giving me "no signal". How do I make my Pixelview PlayTV Pro BT878 work in gutsy?
[10:43] <bazhang> rpedro, no does not need be, but not as easy as in all 32bit system
[10:43] <a7c> m1r: card was detected by lspci before install
[10:43] <m1r> a7c: alt+f2 : gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces in pastebin.com please
[10:43] <bing> hello
[10:43] <anirudh0> rpedro: 64 bit=> cpu register size is 64 bits afaik...so running 32 bit apps implies half the instruction space goes waste
[10:44] <marcusklaas> DAWGZ, SERIOUSLY. I"M FRUSTRATED I CANT USE MY BACK/ FORWARD BUTTONS ON MOUSE EVEN THOUGH MY XORG.CONF IS CONFIGURED CORRECTLY (IT USED TO WORK in 7.10) HOW THE FUCK I FIX?!11
[10:44] <Seeker`> !language | marcusklaas
[10:44] <a7c> m1r: it's only 2 lines...is pastebin really needed?
[10:44] <ompaul> !mouse | marcusklaas
[10:44] <rpedro> bazhang: I mean stuff like games, unless you compile it yourself, it needs to have both 32 and 64 bit support bundled, if not you have to tweak it to use 32 bit libraries, that makes it slow, right?
[10:44] <anirudh0> rpedro: which is related to maximum addressable ram size as well..63 bit has more bits to play with..hence more addresses possible..hence bigger addressable RAM
[10:45] <m1r> a7c:  can u PM me that lines
[10:45] <anirudh0> *64
[10:45] <ikonia> rpedro: no
[10:45] <bing> ive never used any linux before, and ive downloaded the new ubuntu 3 times and itwont verify says mmsum is different
[10:45] <ikonia> rpedro: a program should not be built multi-lib unless you have a specific reason
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:45] <babolat> TvTime is giving me "no signal". How do I make my Pixelview PlayTV Pro BT878 work in gutsy?
[10:46] <bazhang> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Pixelview+PlayTV+Pro+BT878+ubuntu+gutsy&btnG=Search babolat here are a few links
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> babolat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68983
[10:46] <anirudh0> babolat: you could have googled first...
[10:47] <rpedro> ikonia: so, a game compiled for 32 bit, running on a 64 bit OS, still runs, but noticeably slower?
[10:47] <ikonia> rpedro: no - it won't run
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> if i use virtualbox and mount a usb stick as hda and the ubuntu cd to boot, can I install to usb stick that way. Ive seen walkthroughs but then it came to me. Is this a viable solution?
[10:47] <ikonia> rpedro: a 32bit code execution will need a 32bit environment to run
[10:47] <bing> i have no idea what anyone is talking about maybe installing this ubuntu is a bad idea
[10:47] <European-African> hey, I am having huge problems, I updated hardy with the new kernel and some other things and my graphics got all cocked up, 640x480! how do you set it back to what it was.
[10:48] <bing> cant i just put a cd in and see what happens
[10:48] <a7c> bing: yes you can
[10:48] <rpedro> ikonia: ok, but that makes it slower to run than native, specially games?
[10:48] <anirudh0> European-African: downgrade the kernel :)
[10:48] <bazhang> bing http download or torrent
[10:48] <m1r> bing:  download livecd and test your hardware b4 install
[10:48] <a7c> bing: burn the install .iso file to a cd, then reboot your pc with the cd in
[10:48] <European-African> ok
[10:48] <anirudh0> European-African: assuming you have'nt removed it yet
[10:48] <DjViper> where can I find the update installation log?
[10:48] <ikonia> rpedro: 32bit is not slower than 64bit as a general rule
[10:48] <European-African> no
[10:48] <European-African> not yet
[10:48] <marcusklaas> Okay -- my mouse is correctly configured it detects all my button presses -- how do I bind that shit to back/ forward in firefox?
[10:48] <bing> i did that and its keeps comiing up lines with error in it
[10:49] <bazhang> marcusklaas, no cursing in here
[10:49] <marcusklaas> sorry
[10:49] <a7c> m1r: ndis uninstalled, completely removed, what now?
[10:49] <marcusklaas> Frustration got dem better of me.
[10:49] <anirudh0> European-African: no big deal..hardly any difference in kernel numbers these days unless you have very particular hardware
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> European-African: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should let you reconfigure your gfx, or modify xorg.conf to make sure it using the only res you want (way easier)
[10:49] <dave12> do you know any application that sync apps of debian in other pc
[10:49] <m1r> a7c: do reboot please
[10:49] <bing> i did the disk check thing and says 1 error forund
[10:49] <bazhang> dave12, debian or ubuntu
[10:49] <sandraaaaa> hi is it possible to make ubuntu 8,04 to ubuntu muslim edition thx in advance
[10:49] <clusty> any clues why would a nvidia GT8600 card make the installoer freeze. Also if I use nv or nvidia-glx-new drivers?
[10:49] <dave12> ubuntu
[10:50] <a7c> sandraaaaaa: i assume so, try googling it?
[10:50] <bing> downloaded off the site
[10:50] <ikonia> sandraaaaa: what is muslim about it ? it's an OS
[10:50] <sandraaaaa> ok
[10:50] <bazhang> bing what about trying the torrent download
[10:50] <European-African> ﻿anirudh0: will try just restart with old kernal, thanks
[10:50] <ferronica> how to monitor temprature in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[10:50] <sandraaaaa> yes
[10:50] <anirudh0> ikonia: you can say that about any mod
[10:50] <ferronica> CPU temprature application like coretemp?
[10:50] <bing> is the torrent a different version
[10:50] <ikonia> anirudh0: thats what I'm asking what is the definition of "muslim" edition
[10:50] <anirudh0> ferronica: applet in gdesklets package
[10:51] <bazhang> !info lm-sensors
[10:51] <anirudh0> ikonia: should
[10:51] <a7c> bing: nope, the torrent just might download better is all
[10:51] <marcusklaas> yo bazhang
[10:51] <ferronica> anirudhO: anyother way
[10:51] <marcusklaas> does lm sensor have a GUI?
[10:51] <anirudh0> ikonia: would have urdu and arabic support by default..differnt wallpapers..etc etc
[10:51] <ikonia> anirudh0: should what ?
[10:51] <ikonia> arooni-mobile: ok, so basic theme and locale
[10:51] <rpedro> ikonia: maybe sandraaaaa means install arabic(sp) localization
[10:51] <ferronica> anirudhO: application like CORETEMP!
[10:51] <a7c> m1r: rebooted...i await your next order, sensei
[10:51] <anirudh0> ikonia: much repeated though it is..google is your friend
[10:51] <bing> ok thanks so ill go dowload the torrent version , put disk in and that it , windows will still work if i mess it up
[10:52] <ikonia> anirudh0: google for what ?
[10:52] <m1r> a7c: lspci and PMme please
[10:52] <ferronica> lm sensor diidnt worked for me
[10:52] <rpedro> oh, or there is a muslim edition too maybe, at least I'm sure there is a christian one
[10:52] <ikonia> anirudh0: I'm quite capable of using google, but you can't google for a product "ubuntu muslim edition" that doesn't exist, nor can you google for one persons interperation of what a muslim edition is
[10:52] <anirudh0> ikonia: ubuntu muslim edition very much exists...you might have mistyped it
[10:53] <bazhang> ferronica, powertop
[10:53] <ikonia> anirudh0: then why is someone asking to make it ?
[10:53] <bazhang> !info powertop
[10:53] <ikonia> anirudh0: ahh I see it https://web.mail.demon.net/logout.php3?PHPSESSID=d46494125534c0414d6d915ffc004e7a
[10:53] <ikonia> oops
[10:53] <ikonia> anirudh0: http://www.ubuntume.com/
[10:54] <anirudh0> ikonia: i dont get it..since i told you about it , i apparently know of its existence..then why flood the channel with links?
[10:54] <speps> hey guys ... i need a proxy switcher. Who knows some software like that? THAKNS
[10:54] <ikonia> anirudh0: no, sandrooo was asking how to make it
[10:54] <NetV1rus> GoboLinux ftw!
[10:55] <anirudh0> ikonia: you do not read everything..he/she was asking how to INSTALL it over heron
[10:55] <tyberion> whats the command for launching X without any WM and just a console ?
[10:55] <ikonia> anirudh0: no, I only picked up on half the conversation
[10:55] <ferronica> bazhang: ok installed via terminal how to run it ?
[10:55] <ikonia> tyberion: X
[10:56] <ikonia> tyberion: you need a window manager to launch a console
[10:56] <tyberion> ikonia: uh?? thats gonna bring up a console?
[10:56] <gordonjcp> anirudh0: what's Ubuntu Muslim edition?
[10:56] <anirudh0> ferronica: what does coretemp do..i neither have the app, nor a package matching it
[10:56] <ikonia> tyberion: X won't bring up a console, X will launch X without a window manager, you need a window manager to display a console
[10:56] <anirudh0> gordonjcp: ask ikonia
[10:56] <tyberion> ikonia: oh.. well can I just run up a different CTR+ALT and launch a wine application there?
[10:56] <syrius`> so would the kernel crashing 1/2 way through a compile and not doing a clean compile after that probably cause that to not work?
[10:56] <EsTEx> anyone else have problems with interrupted sound while performing other operations in ubuntu?
[10:56] <ferronica> anirudhO:  coretemp for windows
[10:57] <ikonia> gordonjcp: only heard it today, posted a link earlier
[10:57] <syrius`> or is the kernel pretty good and repairing itself if it craps out during a compile
[10:57] <syrius`> err, at*
[10:57] <anirudh0> ferronica: sorry..dont know of that app
[10:57] <ferronica> anirudhO:  its nice application just few KB
[10:57] <ikonia> tyberion: not really.....technically yes, but not usably
[10:57] <anirudh0> ferronica: yeah..but what does it do .. :)
[10:57] <ikonia> syrius`: if the kernel doesn't compile - it's broke, it won't reapir
[10:57] <gordonjcp> ikonia: yeah, I just wielded the mighty power of google
[10:57] <tyberion> ikonia: hmm... I just want to run a game.. aint there just a simple way like that?
[10:57] <syrius`> well it didn't compile because my laptop froze ;)
[10:57] <ikonia> tyberion: whats the problem with running wine in a window manager ?
[10:57] <ikonia> syrius`: then recompile it
[10:58] <syrius`> so it wasn't an error issue
[10:58] <niuq> append="ether=10,0x6200,eth0"    ¿this would work for grub?
[10:58] <ikonia> syrius`: but I'd consider not compiling on an unstable platform
[10:58] <gordonjcp> ikonia: so it's basically Ubuntu Christian edition with a couple of small tweaks?
[10:58] <syrius`> ok well im going to, but after i rebooted i didn't wipe out everything first
[10:58] <European-African> ok, restarting with the old kernal did not solve the bad resolution. How do I set the reset the res?
[10:58] <ferronica> anirudhO:  it will monitor your CPU core temprature
[10:58] <ikonia> gordonjcp: from what I've read
[10:58] <syrius`> and it actually loaded into the login screen with the new kernel
[10:58] <ferronica> anirudhO:  google coretemp :)
[10:58] <ikonia> gordonjcp: never used it, learnt of it's existance 30 seconds ago
[10:58] <syrius`> but the screen went white after that, and just showed the mouse, so i uninstalled, giong to try again..
[10:58] <anirudh0> ferronica: if you had read my earlier post correctly, gdesklets would have done the same job for you...in a much easier way
[10:58] <syrius`> crossing my fingers
[10:58] <tyler_> i have a shared drive on the desktop.....how do i figure out where its mounted?
[10:59] <bazhang> ferronica, no laptop here to test on, what about powertop from the terminal
[10:59] <gordonjcp> ikonia: <shrug>  seems like a reasonable idea
[10:59] <EsTEx> anyone else have choppy multimedia playback when performing other operations such as ripping/encoding a cd?
[10:59] <anirudh0> ferronica: just googled now..you should atleast reference apps from the linux world :)
[10:59] <tyler_> i have a shared drive on the desktop.....how do i figure out where its mounted?\
[10:59] <tyberion> ikonia: well.. when I disable wm to use hotkeys... and I run a game .. I cant alt-tab if playing in fullscreen...
[10:59] <mrtimdog> Has anyone successfully used conduit for gconf syncing?
[10:59] <tyberion> ikonia: and if I enable wm hotkeys... I cant get back to game once I tabbed out
[11:00] <ikonia> tyberion: ask the guys in #winehq for a solution on that, I'm sure they have MANY hacks and work arounds for that
[11:00] <zorglu_> q. what is the gtk version of sudo ?
[11:00] <rpedro> EsTEx: what's the output of uname -a ? I was having the same problem before and a new kernel from hardy-proposed fixed it for me. maybe it has already made it to the main channel, if so, and you have your system updated, than I'm not sure.
[11:00] <ikonia> zorglu_: gksudo
[11:00] <zorglu_> ikonia: thanks
[11:00] <anirudh0> bazhang: how will powertop help...iirc he/she wants to see cpu temp,rather than reduce power consumption
[11:01] <rpedro> EsTEx: let me get you a link for the launchpad bug
[11:01] <bazhang> anirudh0, no idea; he (or she) wanted the ubuntu equivalent and that is it--your idea is better though I think
[11:01] <rpedro> EsTEx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/188226
[11:02] <Thanoulis> WHOIS kenshin
[11:02] <AcornAcorn> How do you mount a windows network location?
[11:02] <anirudh0> bazhang: sorry..just cut  my finger today..in a crappy mood :)
[11:02] <kenshin> Thanoulis, i don't know :P
[11:02] <bazhang> anirudh0, :)
[11:02] <Thanoulis> lol :P
[11:03] <m1r> AcornAcorn: drag it to desktop from nautils :)
[11:03] <Thanoulis> i was testing my centerim...
[11:03] <AcornAcorn> mlr: I can't connect to it because it says it's not mounted
[11:03] <anirudh0> kenshin: rourouri kenshin?
[11:03] <kenshin> yessir
[11:03] <kenshin> anirudh0 from India?
[11:03] <anirudh0> kenshin:yessir
[11:03] <ompaul> !in
[11:03] <m1r> AcornAcorn: smb://myPCip/folder
[11:03]  * ompaul looks at ubottu 
[11:04] <anirudh0> kenshin: kenshin is wildly popular here on campus
[11:04] <ompaul> !ot
[11:04] <European-African> ﻿anirudh0: I restart with the old kernal, but the resolution was the same. 640x480. how do set the xorg.cong to only give the res I want?
[11:04] <anirudh0> European-African: try the other suggestion
[11:04] <European-African> which was?
[11:04] <anirudh0> European-African: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:04] <kenshin> anirudh0, O RLY?
[11:04] <European-African> ok thanks
[11:05] <anirudh0> kenshin: PM.. ompaul will put a ban otherwise :)
[11:05] <kenshin> :)
[11:05] <kenshin> anirudh0, i'm here because i still can't configure my network on ubuntu
[11:05] <anirudh0> kenshin: wireless woes?
[11:05] <kenshin> it sucks when something that windows does automatically, ubuntu can't
[11:05] <kenshin> wired woes
[11:06] <anirudh0> kenshin: i missed your conversation earlier..describe it again please
[11:06] <kenshin> ubuntu won't detect ips sent my dhcp from my router, so i can't use internet from there
[11:07] <kenshin> im on windows now
[11:07] <m1r> kenshin: try set static IP ?
[11:07] <kenshin> dual boot
[11:07] <AcornAcorn> I have a very large folder on another computer over a windows network. What's the best way of compressing it into one archive and saving it on my computer?
[11:07] <kenshin> m1r, how?
[11:07] <anirudh0> kenshin: checked syslog?...and the standard /etc/init.d/dhcbd restart?
[11:07] <kenshin> m1r, the way i tried to put static ip didnn't work
[11:07] <jduggan> hi guys, is there some console wizard to choosing which repo to use? i think the one in my sources.list is broke "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[11:07] <kenshin> anirudh0, nope
[11:07] <kenshin> but
[11:07] <m1r> kenshin: network manager
[11:07] <kenshin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15748/
[11:07] <kenshin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15750/
[11:08] <kenshin> yeah tried network manager
[11:09] <anirudh0> kenshin: try the /init.d method
[11:09] <ghindo> I have a remote machine that I use ssh to access.  I want to use rtorrent on it, but every time I open it via ssh, it closes along with my ssh connection.  How do I keep it open?
[11:09] <kenshin> anirudh0, please elaborate to this linux newbie
[11:09] <anirudh0> kenshin: and check syslog to find exactly what is wrong
[11:10] <anirudh0> kenshin: /etc/init.d/dhcdbd restart...check syslog via sys->admin->system log
[11:10] <anirudh0> !system_log
[11:10] <AcornAcorn> I have a very large folder on another computer over a windows network. What's the best way of compressing it into one archive and saving it on my computer?
[11:11] <anirudh0> ompaul: could you please add a factoid about this..too many people ask about ways of checking logs
[11:11] <Mr_SpOOn> Is there any guide to install a Slackware distro on virtual-box? On Ubuntu, obviously.
[11:11] <European-African> anirudh0: still nothing!
[11:12] <anirudh0> European-African: not sure then..you kept pressing enter in the reconfigure stage?
[11:12] <AcornAcorn> is there any way to find out when firefox rc1 is going to be released for ubuntu?
[11:12] <European-African> ﻿ anirudh0: yip
[11:13] <renegade444> acornacorn: some more info please. This folder is on a windows machine? and your machine is ubuntu? do you already have access to the folder on the network? do you have access to the server to compress it there?
[11:13] <European-African> ﻿ anirudh0: should I change the vga settings in grub?
[11:13] <European-African> ﻿ anirudh0: would that help?
[11:13] <translyator> sorry who now russian channel of ubuntu rc
[11:13] <translyator> ???
[11:14] <AcornAcorn> renegade444: yes, i'm on an ubuntu machine, the folder is on a windows machine that is connected in the network. I already have the network location mounted.
[11:14] <anirudh0> European-African: dont think so..you could try though..change to vga=492 i think
[11:14] <jduggan> is 7.10 gutsy or edgy?
[11:14] <rrrachel> gutsy
[11:14] <European-African> ﻿ anirudh0: ok thanks
[11:14] <translyator> gutsy
[11:14] <DJones> !ru | translyator: Is this what you're looking for?
[11:14] <hopelessguy> hi, i need help with my graphic cards driver
[11:14] <translyator> tnx
[11:15] <hopelessguy> lspci says this is my graphig card:
[11:15] <hopelessguy> lspci says this is my graphig card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[11:15] <hopelessguy> is it posible to get any drivers for that?
[11:16] <rrrachel> hopelessguy: probably already installed as xserver-xorg-video-sys
[11:16] <renegade444> acornacorn: and the important question, can you access the server to compress there? If so, I'd use zip compression on the server and then transfer the zip. if not, you're going to have to transfer it first and then compress it on your machine.
[11:16] <rrrachel> sis
[11:16] <harpreet> any method to make HDAUDIO Data Fax Modem with Smart CP work in ubuntu?
[11:16] <hopelessguy> rrrachel: no they are not, compiz says "no whitelisted driver found" and i can't change better resolution
[11:16] <rrrachel> the question is how to tell X on ubuntu to use it. they seem to have taken out the ability to control that, though i suppose you could write your own xorg.conf
[11:16] <AcornAcorn> renegade444: it's not possible to compress over the network?
[11:16] <rrrachel> hm, i don't even have a sis card and i have that package installed...
[11:17] <hopelessguy> :|
[11:17] <hopelessguy> i'm really desperate atm
[11:17] <anirudh0> AcornAcorn: afaik not from a windows box
[11:17] <AcornAcorn> renegade444: it's just going to take for ever to transfer all the files
[11:17] <harpreet> what you guys talking about?
[11:17] <renegade444> acornacorn: well, you COULD but it would be really slow, as you'd end up transfering it back and forth to the server several times in the process of compressing. not reccommended
[11:18] <anirudh0> hopelessguy: you can disable compiz's check for supported driver..if you are willing to risk it..google for details
[11:18] <rrrachel> hopelessguy: try X -configure and see what it makes?
[11:18] <hopelessguy> anirudh0: i have tried it
[11:18] <hopelessguy> anirudh0: result = reboot because the desk goes black :P
[11:18] <anirudh0> hopelessguy: running compiz from terminal is generally more helpful..in terms of error messages
[11:18] <AcornAcorn> renegade444: what do you think is the fastest way of transferring the folder then?
[11:18] <hopelessguy> anirudh0: yeah
[11:19] <hopelessguy> rrrachel: X -configure?
[11:19] <newbieubuntu> Oh my god...... Ive been tryign for 6 hours to install a nvidia x64 8 series graphics driver... I reboot and im plagued with low-graphics mode arghhh!!!
[11:19] <harpreet> AcornAcorn run an ftp server and give access to the person
[11:19] <rrrachel> to configure X. you seemed to be saying X wasn't configured (no driver) now, with that compiz talk, i'm not sure what your problem is :-)
[11:19] <translyator> how i can on swap partition manually&????
[11:19] <anirudh0> translyator: /sbin/swapon
[11:19] <hopelessguy> rrrachel: my problem is resolution and compiz yes..
[11:19] <AcornAcorn> harpreet: is it not quicker to just do it over command line with ssh?
[11:19] <rrrachel> translyator: swapon/swapoff <partition>
[11:20] <newbieubuntu> windows may be unstable and unsecure, but god damnit its easy to use when its working
[11:20] <harpreet> AcornAcorn you have to set up ssh and give remote access to the person with a username and password
[11:20] <rrrachel> "when it's working" is the key phrase there, newbieubuntu :-)
[11:20] <visik7> newbieubuntu: also ubuntu its easy to use when its working :)
[11:20] <rrrachel> so's ubuntu :-)
[11:20] <harpreet> translyator you do that when you set up ubunutu
[11:20] <AcornAcorn> harpreet: I've done that already
[11:20] <renegade444> acornacorn: unless you can get the server to do the compressing, you want to transfer the uncompressed and do any compression on your machine. using your machine to compress it from the mounted volume is REALLY bad. I promise. worse than waiting on the uncompressed transfer.
[11:21] <harpreet> AcronAcron , you want to increase the size after?
[11:21] <hopelessguy> hmm...
[11:21] <visik7> newbieubuntu: have you tried envy ?
[11:21] <tyberion> hmm, what would be the simplest way, if i Need windows for my SONY MP3 Player and my samsung mobile... to just use windows to xfer stuff, because I both dont support linux =(
[11:21] <AcornAcorn> renegade444: yeah, i'm going to send it uncompressed, but how would i go about doing that if i've already set up ssh?
[11:21] <translyator> harpreet:тщ ш вщте
[11:21] <tyler_> wheres is smb://amd/music_ mounted on my computer?
[11:21] <tyberion> ..and I got only ubuntu installed.
[11:21] <anirudh0> AcornAcorn: everything is complicated by the factor that your source machine is win..so unix cmd line progs wont work there...which takes a lot of options away
[11:21] <translyator> harpreet:no i dont do it
[11:21] <visik7> tyberion: virtual machine or wine (if you are lucky)
[11:22] <visik7> tyberion: anyway samsung use pmp
[11:22] <visik7> that is supported afaict
[11:22] <anirudh0> translyator: i think you can even have 2 swaps..just run swapon on them in the init scripts
[11:22] <rrrachel> not in the init scripts
[11:22] <rrrachel> put it in /etc/fstab
[11:22] <harpreet> anymethod to make HDAUDIO Data Fax Modem with Smart CP work in ubuntu?
[11:22] <rrrachel> (in fact i have five...)
[11:22] <tyberion> visik7: hum.... for wine.. I just install sony software as usual over wine?
[11:22] <tyberion> visik7: pmp = ?
[11:22] <anirudh0> ah..yes..
[11:23] <newbieubuntu> yes I tried envy, uninstalled the drivers.. then I reinstalled them and im stuck at this low graphics mode where I can't open xchat and ask for help and I have I cant copy and paste because it wont let me and oh god it only lets me keep one program open in view at a time if i open terminal i cant open firefox grr
[11:23] <AcornAcorn> anirudh0: I have putty on the windows machine
[11:23] <renegade444> acornacorn: I'm not sure I understand why ssh is important here.
[11:23] <harpreet> tyberion, it may or may not work
[11:23] <visik7> tyberion: a standard protocol for syncing music between pc and porable devices
[11:23] <anirudh0> AcornAcorn: putty as server?
[11:23] <tyler_> anyone here use xchat?
[11:23] <tyberion> harpreet: ok I just gonna give it a try...
[11:23] <anirudh0> tyberion: check wine-doors..google for it
[11:23] <tyberion> visik7: hmmm never heard of it....
[11:23] <anirudh0> tyler_: yes
[11:24] <tyberion> anirudh0: ok, tahnx
[11:24] <harpreet> tyberion, you can try it, sometimes it works, if it doesnt need any hardware it might work
[11:24] <visik7> newbieubuntu: but the 169.12 doesn't works with your card ?
[11:24] <AcornAcorn> renegade444: so you think ftp will be the fastest way? there isn't just a command i can put in terminal that will download the folder from the smb share?
[11:24] <jimcooncat>  /join #bzr
[11:24] <visik7> tyberion: gimme a sec
[11:24] <tyler_> anirudh0: how do i get rid of all the ppl joining hte room and leaving the room and all the ppl losing connection and all that crap
[11:24] <mrfree> I'm using vlc under ubuntu hardy as a streming server do I need to install something special to stream using mp3 for example? "ffmpeg error: cannot find encoder MPEG Audio layer 1/2/3"
[11:24] <tyberion> visik7: kk... ill brb
[11:24] <harpreet> anymethod to make HDAUDIO Data Fax Modem with Smart CP work in ubuntu?
[11:24] <anirudh0> tyler_: right click on the ubuntu tab
[11:25] <newbieubuntu> I dont know because its not installing correctly. I keep getting low-graphics mode. or nvidia x settings isnt working cuz the driver isnt installed
[11:25] <X-Seti> Hi
[11:25] <anirudh0> harpreet: is it in the supported hardware list?
[11:25] <rrrachel> newbieubuntu: try nvidia-xconfig ?
[11:25] <harpreet> anirudh0 no its not, its a software modem in vista
[11:25] <newbieubuntu> yes no luck
[11:25] <rrrachel> hm, that fixed x for me :-)
[11:26] <X-Seti> Whats the best mail(d) / server for ubuntu?
[11:26] <anirudh0> harpreet: you asked this question someago as well right?
[11:26] <newbieubuntu> im thinking of reinstalling it another day i just cant get it back the way it was
[11:26] <visik7> tyberion: ok the name of the protocol is mtp not pmp
[11:26] <harpreet> newbieubuntu, you have to disable the driver under Hardware Drivers Manager
[11:26] <hopelessguy> this is what the compiz says when i try to start it: http://www.paste.arkku.net/index.php?id=2071503987483fd631d9728
[11:26] <renegade444> acornacorn: i'd personally use drag/drop with your smb access, but if you can't do that and want command line, I'd use ftp yes.
[11:26] <harpreet> newbieubuntu, then you can try installing driver fron nvidia
[11:26] <anirudh0> harpreet: *sometime ago
[11:26] <newbieubuntu> yea.. i installed from nvidia and thats when my problems started
[11:26] <rodolfo> hi. how can I set the window menu font? I wonder if that is possible using an application..
[11:26] <rrrachel> hopelessguy: i see your problem. your machine has a lack of self-confidence due to its hostname
[11:26] <tyberion> visik7: mhhh, If using a vm I need to install windows on that VM right?
[11:27] <rrrachel> ;-)
[11:27] <harpreet> anirudh0, yes
[11:27] <visik7> tyberion: obviously
[11:27] <hopelessguy> rrrachel: :o what to do? :f
[11:27] <newbieubuntu> lol
[11:27] <rrrachel> show it some love, and maybe accept its limitations. (your sis card may not be capable of driving compiz)
[11:27] <tyberion> I heard of a USB version of WINXP... anyone heard about that?
[11:27] <newbieubuntu> ubuntu.... "it just doesnt work" lol
[11:27] <anirudh0> hopelessguy: compiz and kubuntu dont mix
[11:27] <harpreet> ! lol | newbieubuntu
[11:27] <visik7> tyberion: bart's PE ?
[11:28] <hopelessguy> aha
[11:28] <kelvin911> tyberion: i know there is a liveCD version of xp
[11:28] <stothepizzle> which is more likley to be my physical dvdrw tray /dev/scd0 or /dev/cdrom
[11:28] <renegade444> acornacorn: if your smb access is mounted to the filesystem, you can use the standard command cp from the command line to copy it
[11:28] <kelvin911> yes something like bartPE
[11:28] <anirudh0> hopelessguy: you have to start compiz before kwin or something like that
[11:28] <rrrachel> hmm
[11:28] <rrrachel> hopelessguy: you're running as root, that may be wrong
[11:28] <backslash7> anyone good in bartpe?
[11:28] <backslash7> I just insalled it on a usb stick
[11:28] <backslash7> booting with syslinux
[11:28] <anirudh0> hopelessguy: new version of kubuntu supports it though..so a fix should be out...google
[11:28] <rrrachel> when logged into your desktop open a terminal and as your user run
[11:28] <DirtyDawg> i cant get nvidia to work with v8, so i went back to 7
[11:28] <kelvin911> backslash7: i dont think so
[11:28] <rrrachel> compiz --replace
[11:28] <AcornAcorn> renegade444: okay, well i dragged it now, really slowing my computer down :P
[11:28] <bazhang> tyberion, what does xp have to do with ubuntu support
[11:29] <newbieubuntu> someone needs to make NOOBUNTU and not release any programs for it unless its a double click deal, next, next ok, like windowsinstalls
[11:29] <hopelessguy> :E
[11:29] <hopelessguy> i try..
[11:29] <tyler_> renegade444: how do i mount a smd share....like right now im playing music on amarok through smb://amd/music....how would i mount this
[11:29] <AcornAcorn> renegade444: getting 3 MB/s
[11:29] <hopelessguy> anirudh0: something happened but it went back to normal
[11:29] <backslash7> tyler_ I told you!?
[11:29] <tyberion> bazhang: sorry...
[11:29] <backslash7> wtf
[11:29] <visik7> tyler_: mount command
[11:29] <backslash7> what the fuck tyler_
[11:29] <visik7> tyler_: -t smbfs ecc...
[11:29] <anirudh0> hopelessguy: it is easier to use gnome...or switch over to kwin-kde4, which imho is atleast as good..if not better than compiz
[11:29] <visik7> tyler_: but it sucks
[11:29] <bazhang> backslash7, no cursing
[11:30] <visik7> tyler_: do you use amarok on ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[11:30] <hopelessguy> anirudh0: tried with ubuntu too. same result
[11:30] <AcornAcorn> How do you find out when firefox rc1 is going to be released for ubuntu?
[11:30] <tyler_> ubuntu
[11:30] <backslash7> bazhang: He was bothering me all the time I helped him setting up his sharing and all that crap and I told him how to mount now hes asking here?
[11:30] <visik7> AcornAcorn: it's in porposed if you want to use it
[11:30] <backslash7> tyler_ ?
[11:30] <anirudh0> visik7: he could add it to fstab....
[11:30] <tyler_> backslash7: i couldnt get it to work
[11:30] <rrrachel> visik7: except it didn't seem to be when i checked just now
[11:30] <AcornAcorn> visik7: oh, how do I do that?
[11:31] <visik7> rrrachel: ff3rc1 ?
[11:31] <rrrachel> yeah
[11:31] <backslash7> tyler_ I told u to mount the smb share to a local folder and play it from there
[11:31] <rrrachel> although thinking about it, i already have it installed by doing this http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-install-firefox-3-rc1-on-ubuntu.html and maybe the one in proposed is the exact same version so no upgrade showed
[11:31] <backslash7> figure it out yourself then -.-
[11:31] <visik7> rrrachel: apt-cache policy firefox-3.0 |grep "\*\*\*"
[11:31] <visik7>  *** 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 0
[11:32] <visik7> rrrachel: mmm
[11:32] <hopelessguy> hmm
[11:32] <rrrachel> 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta2~hardy
[11:32] <tyler_> mount error: could not find target server. TCP name amd/ not found
[11:32] <tyler_> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[11:32] <kelvin911> anyone has experience setting up usb bluetooth?
[11:32] <hopelessguy> rrrachel: kwin-kde4?
[11:32] <rrrachel> which probably counts as a higher version
[11:33] <anirudh0> visik7: see any significant benefit from beta5?
[11:33] <microwaver> exit
[11:33] <rrrachel> hopelessguy: unknown as you're in kde. i use gnome
[11:33] <AcornAcorn> visik7: so how would I install it?
[11:33] <anirudh0> hopelessguy: i meant switching to kde4
[11:33] <visik7> anirudh0: indeed I use epiphany for normal browsing and ff2 for web devel :)
[11:33] <hopelessguy> anirudh0: it has bad results
[11:33] <rrrachel> hopelessguy: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop and try it out; if it works at least you do know it's kde at fault and not compiz/your card
[11:33] <hopelessguy> i tried today :)
[11:33] <visik7> AcornAcorn: add proposed to your repos
[11:33] <anirudh0> visik7: any reason for that?...not using ff by default i mean
[11:34] <visik7> anirudh0: too slow
[11:34] <visik7> anirudh0: xul make me sick
[11:34] <anirudh0> visik7: hmm..dont use extensions then
[11:35] <visik7> anirudh0: I need them for devel purpose
[11:35] <AcornAcorn> visik7: i'm on my software sources list, how do i add it?
[11:36] <anirudh0> visik7: ff3 is supposed to have improved that..which is apparently why lots of extensions stopped working..though you would know more about that :)
[11:36] <visik7> AcornAcorn: my common answer would be "google is your friend" but today I'm less bastard than usual so
[11:36] <visik7> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[11:36] <rodolfo> I'm looking for Ubuntu official themes. can anyone recommend some site? I've visited gnome look, kde look and related stuff but it seems there's nothing interested on there
[11:36] <visik7> ops
[11:37] <visik7> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[11:37] <visik7> rodolfo: look for human theme
[11:37] <visik7> anirudh0: anyway there is also another reason
[11:37] <rodolfo> visik7 you mean the new human theme?
[11:37] <visik7> anirudh0: have you ever used firebug ?
[11:37] <anirudh0> visik7: if we could reply "giyf", then traffic on this server would go down by alleast half :)
[11:37] <AcornAcorn> visik7: aww thanks, yeah, it's not the source that i want :)
[11:38] <visik7> rodolfo: I dunno, the theme of ubuntu is called human
[11:38] <hopelessguy> rrrachel: i have tried with ubuntu, last time this morning "Desktop effects could not be enabled" :s
[11:38] <anirudh0> visik7: no..the new bug finding system?
[11:38] <rrrachel> hopelessguy: then maybe the card just can't do it
[11:38] <visik7> anirudh0: no it's an extension for devel purpose
[11:38] <visik7> anirudh0: devel of web not of firefox itself
[11:38] <hopelessguy> rrrachel: or i just haven't found right drivers for it if kubuntu/ubuntu doesn't include them
[11:39] <anirudh0> visik7: ok..thanks for the info..leaving now
[11:41] <ndlovu> quick question: how do I start a process that will continue after I log off?
[11:42] <HC> ndlovu, what kind of process? a command line process or a graphical process?
[11:42] <poopuser> hi i would like to lern how my system woarks : what file is responsible for certain acctions and how to configure it  manualy.whare do i find this forbidden knewlage?
[11:42] <ndlovu> HC: commandline
[11:42] <HC> ndlovu, use screen.
[11:42] <HC> !info | ndlovu
[11:42] <HC> !info screen | ndlovu
[11:43] <wers> how do I send emails with my yahoo mail account using thunderbird?
[11:44] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/free-pop3-and-smtp-access-to-yahoo-mail-using-ypops-in-ubuntu.html wers
[11:44] <zvacet> wers : try http://ypopsemail.com/
[11:45] <hischild> bazhang, we meet again. Greetings
[11:45] <wers> thanks. i'll try those
[11:45] <bazhang> hischild, :)
[11:45] <poopuser> hey so dose anybody knews whare can i find specyfic information on how ubuntu works?
[11:46] <ikonia> poopuser: you where in here yesterday
[11:46] <ikonia> poopuser: I explained this to you yesterday
[11:46] <poopuser> ; D
[11:46] <bazhang> poopuser, this ubuntu support not chat
[11:46] <hischild> How would i be able to add text on an image, using command line options only?
[11:46] <poopuser> yes but i cant belive that with so large community there isn't anything like that
[11:47] <ikonia> poopuser: I explained this to you yesterday
[11:47] <bazhang> !training
[11:47] <bazhang> poopuser, see above
[11:47] <poopuser> well thank u
[11:51] <poopuser> hey hey dose anybody knews how to configure awesome wm so flash can work in full screen mode? (example youtube)
[11:51] <translyator> in which i can write program on ubuntu
[11:51] <translyator> ???
[11:51] <bazhang> poopuser, get miro or youtube-dl
[11:51] <zarshark> hi
[11:52] <poopuser> k thx
[11:52] <bazhang> !compiling | translyator
[11:52] <bazhang> translyator, install build-essential
[11:53] <translyator> i think you dont understand. i am programmer . i want  write  user programs
[11:53] <arkhat> hello, I am using firefox 3 beta, but the little icon on the upper left corner of an application is disappeared :( help?
[11:53] <translyator> in ubuntu
[11:54] <bazhang> translyator, what ide
[11:54] <renegade444> translyator: you are russian, right? there are 75 people in #ubuntu-ru and you might find it easier to ask in russian
[11:54] <translyator> no iam not russian
[11:55] <jazzboy> hi everybody
[11:55] <zvacet> renegade444 : does it mean that nobody here know or wil lnot answer to him
[11:55] <harvey1> gedit has a nice erlang mode, but when I open .erl files in it, it "Octave" for highlighting etc
[11:55] <tdawgedogg> can i mount all my drives under 1 mountpoint or should i choose separate ones for each drive?  I noticed most of my stuff is under media?
[11:55] <renegade444> translyator: oh I misunderstood then. something you said earlier made me think that. sorry.
[11:55] <gooody> anybody knows how to install adobe acrobat reader in ubuntu hardy?
[11:56] <harvey1> anyone know how to get it to automatically use erlang highlighting for .erl files
[11:56] <zvacet> gooody : isn´t it in add/remove
[11:56] <rodolfo> visik7 do you know if it's possible to use KDE theme on GNOME?
[11:56] <renegade444> zvacet: I was just noticing come communication difficulties, and I was trying to make it easier for him, but it was epic fail ;)
[11:57] <zvacet> renegade444 : I believe you didn´t think that way but it sounds very bad
[11:58] <gooody> ﻿zvacet: it's not available in the repo.
[11:58] <hischild> How would i be able to add text on an image, using command line options only? I would like to add text from a file to a background
[11:58] <vlt> Hello. I upgraded from 6.06 to 8.04 LTS recently. When I try to print something from evince now I get a greyed out menu entry "Print ...". Any idea why?
[11:58] <hopeless> :>
[11:58] <hopeless> i made the compiz to work
[11:59] <zvacet> gooody : system>admin>software sources>check all under ubuntu software and updates tab and reload after that try again
[11:59] <hopeless> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[11:59] <nbags> does anyone have projectM running? Mine is stuck at 320x240 and I don't know how to change it!
[11:59] <fde> vlt: have you re-setup the printer? it uses a new tool now.
[11:59] <hopeless> and restart of x -> voila
[11:59] <hopeless> ;d
[11:59] <Trackilizer> hischild: i rebooted my machine, not quite sure why but everything just mounted by itself, however i have an entire new problem. I can access the drive but it only works sometimes, for no reason my PC freezes when i try to access the drive and i then have to reboot.
[12:01] <bazhang> !samba | jazzboy
[12:01] <poopuser> hey i am about to download miro but i am not quite sure which file to chose (http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/miro/linux/repositories/ubuntu/hardy/) also what command should i use to download and install it at once?
[12:01] <recon61> just want to ask, are kernel panics common in 8.04 cause I getting a lot of them
[12:01] <bazhang> poopuser, sudo apt-get install miro from terminal
[12:02] <gooody> ﻿zvacet: still not available
[12:02] <recon61> and if not now do i go about finding out what is causing it
[12:02] <poopuser> thx ﻿bazhang but what if i want to download and install one from the web page?
[12:03] <bazhang> poopuser, bad idea
[12:03] <poopuser> no i am just asking to knew if in future i need to do something similar
[12:03]  * fde ponders asking how one uses poop, but decides not to
[12:04] <bazhang> poopuser, always use repos if possible
[12:04] <harvey1> the file has a text/x-erlang mime type, the my /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml mentions x-erlang
[12:04] <poopuser> ...but if using rep won't be an optio.give me the command plz
[12:04] <poopuser> *option
[12:04] <bazhang> poopuser, for what app
[12:05] <poopuser> "﻿http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/miro/linux/repositories/ubuntu/hardy/) also what command should i use to download and install it at once?"
[12:05] <zvacet> gooody : add medibuntu repo to your source list and you will have it    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[12:05] <bazhang> poopuser, just use from repos I told you
[12:05] <a7c> m1r: Do you still have that link for my wireless card issue?
[12:06] <poopuser> damn i just want to knew theoreticly (lol my english)
[12:06] <m1r> a7c: PM me lspci
[12:06] <bazhang> poopuser, this is ubuntu support not ubuntu theory; you asked how to and I told you
[12:07] <zvacet>  poopuser :  miro_1.2.3-0pcf1_i386.deb   and you will install it with double click
[12:07] <recon61> ﻿poopuser: just go look up "apt-get"
[12:08] <poopuser> thank u so much <3
[12:08] <PaloAlto> hello
[12:08] <PaloAlto> is there snoop for linux ?
[12:09] <bazhang> PaloAlto, what is that
[12:09] <vlt> fde: How to "re-setup" the printers? I use CUPS for adding printers.
[12:09] <tdawgedogg> when starting ubuntu hardy 8.04 it hangs on starting nfs daemon
[12:09] <harpreet> vlt what do you mean re setup?
[12:09] <fde> vlt: System > Administration > Printing ... although I'd imagine the cups interface would work fine... just remove the old ones and add the new ones...
[12:10] <roycruse> hi - i have set my ubuntu to auto login using System>Administration>Login Window :: but when i get my desktop i am presented with an Unlock Keyring dialogue with the following message :: The application 'nm-applet'(/usr/bin/nm-applet) wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked :: is there anyway i can make the auto login completely silent
[12:10] <fde> vlt: they moved to openprinting.org packages rather than the old foomatic or whatever it was.
[12:10] <vlt> fde: I already did that using CUPS interface ... hmmm.
[12:10] <bazhang> roycruse, that is for wireless
[12:10] <gooody> ﻿zvacet: i followed the direction in this site: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-pdf-reader-811-with-plug-in-for-mozilla-firefox-in-gutsy-gibbon.html
[12:10] <zvacet>  PaloAlto   : http://www.cir.nus.edu.sg/research/software/snoop/snoop.html
[12:10] <tdawgedogg> when starting ubuntu hardy 8.04 it hangs on starting nfs daemon
[12:11] <fde> vlt: I think apps try to use Printings settings, idk... I havne't tried the web interface on either Fedora or Ubuntu that use that tool.
[12:11] <gooody> ﻿zvacet: but got errors during installation
[12:11] <roycruse> ok say how do i grant access to the default keyring for the wireless nm-applet
[12:12] <olejorgenb> anyone know how/if I can hide the scrollbars i evince?
[12:12] <AcornAcorn> visik7: where do i put it in the sources.list file?
[12:12] <zvacet> gooody : what kind of errors
[12:12] <gooody> ﻿zvacet: package is missing
[12:12] <Jessica> Hi Folks.  I can't get ddclient to work.  I installed it using "sudo apt-get install ddclient" but it doesn't seem to log into my dyndns provider.  Ideas?
[12:12] <tdawgedogg> when starting ubuntu hardy 8.04 it hangs on starting nfs daemon
[12:12] <bazhang> not sure roycruse ; ever consider setting it up via command line?
[12:13] <vlt> fde: I'll try via system settings again. Where else does this tool store the setup info than in /etc/cups/printers.conf or ~/.lpoptions?
[12:13] <AcornAcorn> why does nothing happen why i try and add the hardy-proposed source in software sources?
[12:13] <zvacet> gooody : there are insructions for Gutsy and that can be problem (just guess)
[12:13] <jonaskoelker> question: I recently installed kubuntu with full disk encryption (using the defaults of the installer).  Now I want to rtfm on the encryption software; in particular the bit that decrypts the master key with my passphrase-key.  Which prog/pkg names do I google for?
[12:13] <bazhang> AcornAcorn, you need to update your sources.list
[12:14] <olifre> Since upgrade to hardy, I can not burn any CD anymore. Ideas?
[12:14] <gooody> ﻿zvacet: thanks anyway for the assistant
[12:14] <jonaskoelker> olifre: it might be a bug in your application; try several different CD burning programs and see if they all fail
[12:14] <fde> vlt: I'm not entirely sure... and dpkg -L system-config-printer-{common,gnome} | grep etc isn't enlightening.
[12:14] <AcornAcorn> bazhang: manually?
[12:15] <olifre> Tried K3B, brasero and nautilus already.
[12:15] <Jessica> ddclient was working on my old rh9.2 machine.  any thoughts?
[12:15] <zvacet> gooody : why didn´t you add medibuntu repos from link I posted to you and after that just sudo apt-get install acroread
[12:15] <bazhang> AcornAcorn, close software sources or synaptic and sudo apt-get update
[12:15] <olifre> All fail with write-error at first sector and / or permission-problems.
[12:15] <cdonges> I was watching Big Buck Bunny and I think my 3yo would love it except for 1 scene.  Is there a program I could use to cut out that scene?
[12:15] <jonaskoelker> olifre: hmm... have you tried running them as root?
[12:16] <PaloAlto> thanks <zvacet>
[12:16] <olifre> Yes, this just gave me other errors... might try again. I am in group cdrom and thus have permissions to access scd0
[12:16] <jonaskoelker> olifre: do the permission problems consistently correlate with something (application, phase-of-moon, ...)?
[12:16] <Jyri-C> hello! im trying to make an backup but i got this input/output error. what does it mean?
[12:17] <olifre> jonaskoelker: No, just the hardy-upgrade.
[12:17] <hirak99> need to start a desktop ubuntu in console mode without the gui
[12:17] <Jyri-C> im trying to copy some video files to my external hardrive
[12:17] <blurry> hi guys
[12:18] <blurry> hope everyone is well
[12:18] <jonaskoelker> olifre: you could try to guess which packages are faulty and downgrade them.  I'd go for the kernel, all hardware abstraction layers stuff and your applications
[12:18] <zvacet> PaloAlto : np
[12:18] <jonaskoelker> olifre: or you could downgrade everything and then upgraade packages you're confident doesn't cause the error
[12:18] <olifre> Well, that's kind of... work ^^.
[12:18] <jonaskoelker> olifre: yeah, I know...
[12:19] <chrismir> Hi, I have a new computer with a core 2 quad processor (q6700). What would be the best install disk for it? x86 supported or amd64 supported?
[12:19] <AcornAcorn> If i'm trying to add a software source using the software sources manager should i give it "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe" or "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed "?
[12:19] <jonaskoelker> olifre: it's only intended as a I'm-hellbent-on-fixing-this-fucking-problem solution
[12:19] <olifre> Well... then I'll have to wait till there is more time ^^.
[12:19] <jonaskoelker> AcornAcorn: the former, I think
[12:19] <olifre> Brasero gives me this line: BraseroWodim stderr: Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error
[12:19] <blurry> chris, is your proc 64bit? i have a 64bit proc that i could talk to you about
[12:20] <fde> chrismir: always i386
[12:20] <vlt> fde: I added a new printer using system settings and restarted evince. But the Print dialog is still not available :(
[12:20] <niuq> what is the daemon for power management in ubuntu?
[12:21] <chrismir> blurry: I assume the processor is 64bit, but I'm not sure if it is compatible with amd64 architecture
[12:21] <chrismir> fde: always? ;-)
[12:21] <fde> vlt: I can't test here as I don't have a printer set up on this machine... does it show up in OpenOffice.org at least though?
[12:21] <Jessica> Hi Guys, I'm in a real bind here.  my old webserver worked fine on RH9.2.  I upgraded to ubuntu because you all kept ragging on me about security.  now my webserver is down in the water.  it seems to be a ddclient issue.  can someone help?
[12:21] <fde> chrismir: on Debian-based, yes.
[12:21] <blurry> chrismir: what is your native os?
[12:21] <fde> chrismir: and more generally, if it's a desktop, yes
[12:21] <chrismir> fde: why is that? Is 64 bit not supported properly
[12:22] <chrismir> I'm running linux solely
[12:22] <AcornAcorn> erm, i just messed things up, help!
[12:22] <jonaskoelker> olifre: google says ubuntuforums says there's a bug filed on it...
[12:22] <ikonia> AcornAcorn: what's up ?
[12:22] <vlt> fde: Yes, printing from OOo works.
[12:22] <blurry> chrismir: linux came with your machine from the shop, or you built yourself?
[12:22] <fde> chrismir: it just makes many things more annoying than it has to be... and dpkg doesn't have good multiarch support.
[12:22] <AcornAcorn> i closed software sources when it was updating, and now i'm getting errors, when doing sudo apt-get update
[12:22] <chrismir> currently running ubuntu 8.04 on a temp partition (32 bit version)
[12:22] <ikonia> AcornAcorn: what errors
[12:22] <chrismir> installed it my self
[12:22] <AcornAcorn> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:22] <olifre> jonaskoelker: Thanks, I will check again, I had searched for the burn-problem in general before, not with this line. Thanks for your help!
[12:23] <fde> vlt: I'd recommend filing a bug on evince then... although epdfview replaces evince, so see if that works first.
[12:23] <AcornAcorn> and E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:23] <jonaskoelker> AcornAcorn: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:23] <ikonia> AcornAcorn: do you have any other synmpaitc sessions open
[12:23] <blurry> chrismir: what proc do you have? model number or equiv?
[12:23] <fde> vlt: The guy that wrote evince left RedHat, so is no longer working on it.
[12:23] <AcornAcorn> ikonia: OH! software sources carried on updating even though i closed it, phew
[12:23] <chrismir> Generally I'm wondering adding extra juice in my machine by running 64 bit is possible
[12:23] <chrismir> blurry: that was in my first line: core 2 quad (q6700)
[12:24] <fde> AcornAcorn: Close synaptic or add/remove programs... and ensure update-manager isn't active.
[12:24] <PastorBones> how do you uninstall unreal ircd?
[12:24] <AcornAcorn> and now i see new updates availiable :D
[12:24] <ikonia> chrismir: do you have 4 GB of ram  ?
[12:24] <chrismir> 3
[12:24] <jonaskoelker> ... question: what software is used when I select full-disk encryption during the installer?
[12:24] <ikonia> chrismir: then no
[12:24] <fde> chrismir: you won't notice any increase in performance on the desktop at all.
[12:24] <vlt> fde: Can you reccommend any other tool to watch TIFF files like evince did (with thumbnails on the left)?
[12:24] <ikonia> PastorBones: remove it using synmaptic
[12:24] <chrismir> fde: ikonia: thanks. straight and clear answer! ;-)
[12:24] <AcornAcorn> fde: i hate gui, can't see what's going on -,-
[12:25] <blurry> chrismir: soz, missed that, i have to agree with the others, i run 64bit and i don't notice any improv
[12:25] <fde> vlt: epdfview ... it uses poppler which I'm fairly certain does tiff.
[12:25] <cousin_luigi> pardon my n00bness, but any idea why the .Trash-root dir points to another volume?
[12:25] <blurry> chrismir: only annoying because a lot of pkgs are not in 64bit
[12:25] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: you shouldn't have a root trash
[12:25] <fde> AcornAcorn: heh  :)
[12:26] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: found it there
[12:26] <cousin_luigi> not sure why
[12:26] <cousin_luigi> I never login as root
[12:26] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: where did you find it ?
[12:26] <cousin_luigi> on a partition
[12:26] <PastorBones> ikonia, what is symnaptic?
[12:26] <chrismir> blurry: ah, is that still so? I had an amd64 a few years ago, when that was the case. So I wondered if that was solved already. Seems not :)
[12:26] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: what directory
[12:26] <kane77> how can I batch resize images in ubuntu?
[12:26] <ikonia> PastorBones: synaptics - the package manager
[12:26] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: .Trash-root
[12:26] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: on what file system is that directory
[12:27] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: ext3
[12:27] <fde> kane77: ImageMagick can do that... I'm not sure the exact command though.
[12:27] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: no - what point of the file system eg: /root
[12:27] <PastorBones> I don't have that
[12:27] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: /media/sda6
[12:27] <fde> kane77: uhh... graphicsmagick
[12:27] <ikonia> PastorBones: your using ubuntu - not kubuntu yes?
[12:27] <Andycas> how to make cifs mounts in fstab timout sooner? When the destination machine is offline, it takes 2 minutes longer to boot up
[12:27] <kane77> fde, ok, thank you.. will have a look at it
[12:27] <PastorBones> yep, ubuntu hardy
[12:27] <PastorBones> but no graphical
[12:27] <AcornAcorn> is there any way to stop update manager from automatically trying to update from hardy-proposed? and is it possible to see which updates are from which source? I don't want to install all 66 updates from proposed, just firefox, and of course i can just unselect the rest, but when it next tries to update it will ask me again :(
[12:27] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: no !, where in your file system /home/steve/test/ is the .Trash-root directory
[12:27] <ikonia> PastorBones: the you do have it
[12:27] <PastorBones> no I don't
[12:27] <ikonia> PastorBones: system -> administrartion -> synaptic package manager
[12:27] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: /media/sda6/.Trash-root
[12:27] <PastorBones> ikonia, I'm not using gui
[12:27] <blurry> chrismir: heheh it is very tedious, i find the more software releases there are the more often they go down the i386 line, apparently because not so many people have 64bit they don't like spending much time in dev
[12:28] <ikonia> PastorBones: why ?
[12:28] <chrismir> ok, I will run x86. But IF I was to install a 64bit version (eg. to test on some spare partition), Would the AMD64 version run on Intel's core 2 quad processor?
[12:28] <somechap> hey any one from geneva
[12:28] <PastorBones> why not?
[12:28] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: that apparently links to /media/sda10
[12:28] <fde> AcornAcorn: either in System > Administration > Software Sources > Update tab ... or comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:28] <PastorBones> because it's just a server
[12:28] <PastorBones> and it's only a pii 350
[12:28] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: no idea why that would be a symlink unless your mount points are old installs
[12:28] <AcornAcorn> fde: after installing what I want?
[12:28] <ikonia> PastorBones: then use apt
[12:28] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: it's not a symlink it seems
[12:28] <fde> AcornAcorn: yes
[12:28] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: what s it then ?
[12:28] <ikonia> is
[12:28] <fde> AcornAcorn: If what you want is in hardy-proposed  :P
[12:28] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: hard link, apparently
[12:29] <newbieubuntu> 0................
[12:29] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: are those disks old installs ?
[12:29] <cousin_luigi> yes
[12:29] <clusty> hey
[12:29] <newbieubuntu> Another noob has made the mac switch after failing at ubuntu... "Hey there, i'm currently running windows xp pro and linux ubutnu on my pc, so, i put the " leo4all " dvd in my drive and installed it on the " linux ubuntu ' partition, all went fine, but after the installation, it restarted my computer and after that,my pc can't detect any OS-es installed on my pc no more. "
[12:29] <cousin_luigi> but always ubuntu
[12:29] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: ok, so thats why thats like that, it's not for your current system
[12:29] <clusty> is there some issue with nividia-glx-new and 64bit linux?
[12:29] <AcornAcorn> fde: it takes about 5 second to uncheck each item in the update manager :(
[12:29] <PastorBones> ummm....I didn't use apt to install it
[12:29] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: but why is it there?
[12:29] <ikonia> newbieubuntu: what is leo4all - thats not an ubuntu product
[12:30] <cousin_luigi> and, is there a way to undelete from ext3 anyway?
[12:30] <fde> AcornAcorn: :(
[12:30] <blurry> newbieubuntu: LOL master boot record has prob gone
[12:30] <ikonia> PastorBones: then you have to manually remove each file
[12:30] <fde> !offtopic | newbieubuntu
[12:30] <AcornAcorn> fde: how do i just update firefox-3.0 through terminal?
[12:30] <Guest72966> hello?
[12:30] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: it's there beceause of your old install, you may have done an X11 app as sudo or something like that
[12:30] <Guest72966> need help!
[12:30] <AcornAcorn> fde: sudo apt-get update firefox-3.0?
[12:30] <fde> AcornAcorn: sudo aptitude install firefox
[12:30] <Guest72966> can any1 help me?
[12:30] <fde> AcornAcorn: that would work too I believe.
[12:30] <AcornAcorn> fde: and how do i find out what the version is that is going to be installed?
[12:30] <ikonia> GeorgeA: ask a question then
[12:30] <fde> Guest72966: Not if you don't ask your question  :P
[12:30] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: I can live with that, but not sure why would it point to someplace else
[12:31] <blurry> has anybody got any experiance using QEMU?
[12:31] <chrismir> fde: lol
[12:31] <Guest72966> how can i run a .bat file?
[12:31] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: anyway it bears today's date
[12:31] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: probably because of how your old disk layout was
[12:31] <Pici> Guest72966: On Ubuntu?
[12:31] <ikonia> Guest72966: bat files are batch files for Windows based OS's
[12:31] <fde> AcornAcorn: aptitude show firefox-3.0
[12:31] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: probably mtime access from it being access
[12:31] <Guest72966> can i write my own linux script and run it?
[12:31] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: I wouldn't worry about it
[12:31] <ribasushi> hi guys
[12:31] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: I do, since I tried to empty
[12:31] <fde> Guest72966: yes
[12:31] <blurry> hi rib
[12:31] <cousin_luigi> it
[12:31] <ikonia> Guest72966: sure, you need to use a shell, such as dash/ash/bash/bourne
[12:31] <cousin_luigi> ikonia: lost half of my data dir
[12:31] <ribasushi> do I really need to buy a launchpad account to report bugs?
[12:31] <Guest72966> can i like make my .bat into a linux script?
[12:32] <fde> ribasushi: no... who told you that?
[12:32] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: then you've made a mistake in emptying it
[12:32] <sipior> Guest72966: have a look here: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:32] <ikonia> ribasushi: yes
[12:32] <cousin_luigi> any ext3 undelete tool?
[12:32] <ikonia> ribasushi: how else are you going to log a bug to luanchpad without a bug ?
[12:32] <Pici> ribasushi: buy? no. Register, yes.
[12:32] <Pici> ribasushi: Its free.
[12:32] <clusty> cousin_luigi, the short answer is NO
[12:32] <ikonia> cousin_luigi: it's a lot of effort and very unluckly to work in most situations
[12:33] <ikonia> Pici: I missed the word "buy" well spotted
[12:33] <cousin_luigi> clusty: I think I'll go for the long-winded one:)
[12:33] <clusty> cousin_luigi, with a bit of luck and googling around might get parts of file back (with a major pain in the ass)
[12:33] <fde> ikonia: I think you misread... else my sarcasm gage is malfunctioning...
[12:33] <AcornAcorn> fde: it's just showing me my current version, b5, does that mean that it can't find rc1?
[12:33] <ikonia> fde: I missed the word "buy"
[12:33] <cousin_luigi> I have to admit, I'm starting to like ubuntu less
[12:33] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[12:33] <fde> AcornAcorn: yup... it's not around yet... there is a PPA for RC1 though.
[12:33] <ribasushi> fde: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/taking-freedom-further
[12:33] <sigur> hey, when I run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" there are occasionally packages that are "kept back". how do I get it to upgrade everything, like the graphical update tool?
[12:34] <AcornAcorn> fde: I added hardy-proposed as a source
[12:34] <PastorBones> ikonia, does it install anywhere other than the folder that I did the make?
[12:34] <Dr_willis> Its ubuntus fault  you need to undelete a file? :)
[12:34] <Pici> sigur: use the dist-upgrade argument instead of upgrade.
[12:34] <ikonia> PastorBones: yes, depending on your configuration at compile time
[12:34] <sigur> pici, thanks
[12:34] <bakert> I have a server running edgy ... how can i upgrade it to something supported if "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" fails because the repositories have been switched off?  Can I just changes sources.list?
[12:35] <fde> ribasushi: eh... yeah... ignore that  :S
[12:35] <Nate263> So, does it always take a really long time for Ubuntu to respond after one selects install from a boot cd?
[12:35] <fde> AcornAcorn: Yeah... it's not in there currently afaik
[12:35] <jrib> bakert: old-releases.ubuntu.com has repos so you can update.  Let me know if that works please
[12:35] <AcornAcorn> fde: oh, i had only updated apt-get not aptitude
[12:35] <sipior> Nate263: what do you consider a long time?
[12:35] <lewisbeechey> Hey, could anyone help me with my wireless problem i have with Ubuntu? My laptop is a Compaq 6720s. I have no idea what i'm looking for to get the wireless working but at the minute it just gives me this: http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/5/30/f_Screenshotm_93b41d0.png
[12:35] <blurry> nate263: yeah lol depends what you consider to be a long time mate
[12:36] <chrismir> If I want to test some distro, what is nowadays the best method? On a seperate partition, native on the system, or though some VM?
[12:36] <newbieubuntu> Is compiz ever gona offer that functionality to vista?
[12:36] <fde> AcornAcorn: both update libapt actually... so it's the same thing.
[12:36] <fde> newbieubuntu: no
[12:36] <Pici> newbieubuntu: Linux is not Windows.
[12:36] <gordonjcp> newbieubuntu: does compiz run on Vista?
[12:36] <AcornAcorn> fde: that's odd, because it got loads of hits from hardy-proposed
[12:36] <fde> gordonjcp: no
[12:36] <bazhang> newbieubuntu, stop please with the offtopic
[12:36] <fde> AcornAcorn: yes... but none are firefox
[12:36] <newbieubuntu> ooo wrong room sorry
[12:36] <fde> AcornAcorn: Something like 70-ish currently I think.
[12:36] <Guest72966> need someone who can write shell scripts!!!
[12:37] <bakert> jrib: i can just change my sources.list to point at old-releases?  or more complicated than that?
[12:37] <Nate263> sipior and blurry: It's probably been half an hour, I might be overly impatient due to several hours with Knoppix attempting to fix a Windows blue screen.
[12:37] <sipior> Guest72966: have a look at that link i sent you
[12:37] <Pici> Guest72966: Try #bash
[12:37] <fde> Guest72966: What does your script do?
[12:37] <sipior> Nate263: no, that's definitely too long :)
[12:37] <Guest72966> #bash
[12:37] <ikonia> Guest72966: you have a batch file aimed at windows, if you want to run it you'll need to have it re-written in a shell thats compatible with linux
[12:37] <bakert> jrib: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/ /
[12:37] <bakert> ?
[12:37] <jrib> bakert: I've never done it, but that's what I would try
[12:37] <ikonia> Guest72966: as I advised you in the pm you sent me, you'll be best contacting the person who wrote the software
[12:38] <sipior> Nate263: is there no hard drive activity?
[12:38] <AcornAcorn> fde: but visik7 told me it was in proposed now
[12:38] <bdog> will wine run ie7?
[12:38] <blurry> nate263: sipior beat me to the question
[12:38] <jrib> bakert: note that to get to hardy will take you a very long time: edgy -> feisty -> gutsy -> hardy.  So it may be easier faster to backup and reinstall
[12:38] <chrismir> If I want to test some distro, what is nowadays the best method? On a seperate partition or through a virtual machine ( if the latter, which vm?)
[12:38] <jrib> chrismir: I'd say through a virtual machine, I like virtual box and kvm
[12:38] <Nate263> sipior: What do you mean? How would I know that? (Sorry if that is a stupid question)
[12:39] <fde> AcornAcorn: ahh... it appears to be... just sudo aptitude install firefox-3.0 ... it'll grab rc1
[12:39] <sipior> chrismir: virtual machines are vastly simpler. any of them should do just fine
[12:39] <blurry> chrismir: depends on what you know, i prefer virtual machine, but lots of people prefer their own apps.
[12:39] <bakert> jrib: i only need to get to feisty for now though :)
[12:39] <Guest72966> what program can make a runable script for ubuntu?
[12:39] <sipior> Nate263: no worries. there should be a hard drive activity light near the power light on your case.
[12:39] <jrib> Guest72966: any text editor you want
[12:39] <fde> Guest72966: any text editor.
[12:39] <Guest72966> how do i run it
[12:39] <Guest72966> ?
[12:39] <Nate263> Sipior: Oh, I'll go check
[12:40] <fde> Guest72966: make it executeable.
[12:40] <Guest72966> so rename to .exe?
[12:40] <blurry> nate263: hard drive activity means your hard drive is doing something, like installing ubuntu in your case, are you on a box or laptop?
[12:40] <fde> Guest72966: no... chmod +x thefile
[12:40] <jrib> Guest72966: use chmod to give yourself executable permissions.  No renaming necessary
[12:41] <fde> Guest72966: or just sh thefile
[12:41] <lewisbeechey> Hey, could anyone help me with my wireless problem i have with Ubuntu? My laptop is a Compaq 6720s. I have no idea what i'm looking for to get the wireless working but at the minute it just gives me this: http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/5/30/f_Screenshotm_93b41d0.png
[12:41] <chrismir> jrib: sipior: blurry: thanks. I'll look into that. In the past I had bad experience with VM's, I hope they're improved in usability and stability.
[12:41] <bakert> jrib: old-releases seems to work well
[12:41] <sipior> chrismir: they definitely have!
[12:41] <bakert> jrib: thanks!
[12:41] <Nate263> blurry: box, and sipior the light is not flashing at all. I don't think I have even started installing it yet because I haven't even gotten to the partition options and all that.
[12:41] <jrib> chrismir: virtual box works really well and has a nice gui
[12:41] <blurry> chrismir: they are almost as good, and in some cases just as good as the real thing these days, i use them all the time. love em
[12:42] <jrib> chrismir: and it's in the repositories!
[12:42] <sipior> Nate263: are you sure you double-clicked the install icon? has the machine locked up?
[12:42] <lhgergo> hi
[12:42] <lhgergo> how can i run boinc on xubuntu 8.04
[12:42] <chrismir> jrib: Cool. Will install and test it after lunch
[12:42] <chrismir> great thanks people
[12:42] <blurry> chrismir: anytime mate, take care
[12:43] <Dr_willis> Guest72966,  thers dozens of scripting languages out for Linux, or you can script using the bash shell. check  out the 'advanced bash scripting guide' for example of bash scripts.
[12:43] <AcornAcorn> fde: yay it's updating! seems to be updating a couple of other things too though, is it just updating things relevant to firefox?
[12:43] <zSoilworker> !ask
[12:44] <fde> AcornAcorn: yup
[12:44] <Nate263> sipior: This is what happened, I pressed F12 to boot from cd and the options to install, test out ubuntu, test the cd for errors and all that came up. I selected install and it froze up after showing the image that I'm guessing is the default Ubuntu desktop background.
[12:44] <blurry> nate263: interesting, seems it has locked up. how old is that machine your trialing on?
[12:44] <lewisbeechey> anybody?
[12:44] <AcornAcorn> fde: what's yelp?
[12:44] <visik7> aahah which wonderfull features vista has that compiz hasn't ?
[12:44] <Nate263> blurry: a few years, it's a Dell inspiron 3000
[12:44] <Mulder> what do i need to do for sound to work in a hardy chroot?
[12:44] <AcornAcorn> fde: error reporting?
[12:44] <fde> AcornAcorn: something that uses xulrunner, which was updated, so was required to be rebuilt...
[12:44] <fde> AcornAcorn: no... the help browser.
[12:45] <AcornAcorn> ah ok :P
[12:45] <sipior> Nate263: try selecting "test out ubuntu" and then try the install from there, once the desktop comes up
[12:45] <mon> Hi, i've got a pc with fresh Hardy install. NetworkManager (or a manual dhclient) can't get an IP from my router. what should i do?
[12:46] <sipior> mon: i assume you've verified that the machine can connect via dhpc under another operating system. does it work with the live CD?
[12:46] <Mulder> visik7, "lag"
[12:46] <Mulder> more of it at least
[12:46] <Nate263> sipior: tried that and this time it froze up after showing an error screen saying that the GNOME Daemon settings engine couldn't start.
[12:46] <Nate263> blurry: it's a dimension 3000 actually but I doubt that matters
[12:46] <Nix3r>  can any one whois me and tell what he gets?
[12:47] <sipior> Nate263: huh, bizarre.
[12:47] <visik7> Mulder: sorry ?
[12:47] <AcornAcorn> is there any way to set software sources to only update a specific program from a specific source?
[12:47] <hirak99> 3000 dimension?
[12:47] <mon> sipior: it was installed and upgraded in another place, so the hardware works if that's what you're getting at
[12:47] <hirak99> so many dimensions exist?
[12:47] <blurry> nate263: interesting, i have never seen that before, have you tried any other distros?
[12:47] <tyberion> can anyone tell me why I cannot run "gedit" anymore.. nuffing appears when I open it :(
[12:47] <visik7> AcornAcorn: pin the repo
[12:47] <hirak99> i thought there are 4
[12:47] <sipior> mon: no, i was getting at whether the router is configured to dispense an ip address to a new mac address :-)
[12:47] <AcornAcorn> visik7: pin the repo?
[12:47] <hirak99> 3000 dimensions will be pretty complicated
[12:48] <mon> sipior: my older ubuntu pc got an ip right away
[12:48] <visik7> AcornAcorn: man apt_preferences
[12:48] <Nate263> blurry: No I haven't. This is one of these times when it feels like the computer almost doesn't want to work.
[12:48] <sipior> mon: that's what i mean: the router may not be willing to dispense an ip address if it sees a new MAC on the line
[12:48] <muksie> Does anyone know if it is possible to run a dos program which communicates over an serial port with some piece of old hardware under wine? (Or another DOS-emulator?)
[12:49] <sipior> mon: you might try power-cycling the router, and see if it works then
[12:49] <tyberion> what can I do if nothing happens when I try to run 'gedit'??? no error message.. nuffing :(
[12:49] <mon> sipior: guess i'll try that and maybe the livecd. thanks
[12:49] <AcornAcorn> visik7: how come i don't see the hardy-proposed source on the software sources program?
[12:49] <visik7> AcornAcorn: read the man pages
[12:50] <blurry> nate263: maybe try another debian distro to see what happens?
[12:51] <Nate263> blurry: I'll try that. Thanks for your help sipior and blurry.
[12:51] <manoff> i have some old device that connects to PS/2 port and some closed source win32 app to operate with it. can you tell me any software that can sniff the communication between this device and app?
[12:52] <blurry> nate263: no worries mate, let me know how you get on, ubuntu is worth it once you get it going.
[12:52] <tdawgedogg> in terminal how do i get a list of all my drives that are connected....like dev/sda1 ect.....
[12:52] <sipior> tdawgedogg: "mount"
[12:52] <tdawgedogg> thanks
[12:53] <Dr_willis> tdawgedogg,  'sudo fdisk -l ' will show all drives and all filesystems on them.. 'mount' shows all mounted filesystems
[12:53] <ottoshmidt> hi all, how do I start any of my apps from terminal?
[12:53] <Nate263> blurry: I know. I'm running Windows on the laptop I'm typing on but I'm seriously considering switching over to Ubuntu despite these experiencex. See ya later.
[12:53] <manoff> any ideas?
[12:54] <tdawgedogg> dr_willis: my problem is i have 6 drives that are not showing up and i think i need to add them to fstab....but i need to find there locations like /dev/sdg1 ect
[12:54] <erUSUL> tdawgedogg: ls -al /dev/disk/by-id/*
[12:54] <manoff> ottoshmidt: you just write the name and hit enter
[12:54] <ottoshmidt> ok  thanks
[12:54] <manoff> ottoshmidt: like "gedit"
[12:54] <manoff> try it
[12:54] <sipior> manoff: you can try running the application in a virtual machine, and then using strace to intercept the relevant system calls. i suggest a hefty use of grep here ;-)
[12:54] <Dr_willis> tdawgedogg, use sudo fdisk -l , and see whats where.. Theres some gui tools to help in mounting also. but i never use the gui tools for it.
[12:54] <manoff> sipior: aha
[12:55] <manoff> sipior: virtualization is completely new to me
[12:55] <sipior> manoff: the system calls will be translated by the VM, but if you're only trying to work out the communcation protocol, it should do
[12:55] <manoff> sipior: is there really no other way, like "tcpdump" but with PS/2?
[12:55] <Dr_willis> tdawgedogg,   erUSUL 's suggestion is good also. :)   with the fstab , you really 'should' be mounting filesystems based on their UUID not their /dev/hd## type address any more
[12:55] <icqnumber> how big is kubuntu-desktop (packages)?
[12:55] <manoff> sipior: ok
[12:56] <ottoshmidt> and how start calculator from terminal?
[12:56] <sipior> manoff: well, all the writes are just system calls...
[12:56] <manoff> ottoshmidt: what is the binary name of your calculator?
[12:56] <ottoshmidt> how do I know?
[12:56] <tdawgedogg> dr_willis: how do i find the uuid number?
[12:56] <manoff> sipior: i was looking for some command line tool such as "tcpdump" but which works with ps/2 instead, but i guess there is none :/
[12:57] <manoff> ottoshmidt: then i cant help you either
[12:57] <sipior> manoff: strace | grep ;-)
[12:57] <manoff> ottoshmidt: you obviously need to know the name of the program you want to execute
[12:57] <manoff> but i think if you have gnome, then try "gcalc" or something
[12:57] <manoff> i dont have gnome
[12:57] <manoff> sipior: ok cool
[12:57] <manoff> sipior: i will seek into it
[12:57] <sipior> manoff: have fun
[12:58] <manoff> thanks for the advice
[12:58] <tdawgedogg> erUSUL: i did that and it showed like 30 different lines... i only have like 6 drives...showed some of the drives like 5 times
[12:58] <ottoshmidt> manoff:  where can I see that?
[12:58] <manoff> ottoshmidt: i cant help you, i dont use graphical user interface stuff
[12:59] <ottoshmidt> ah
[12:59] <manoff> ottoshmidt: try "gcalc"
[12:59] <manoff> or "gcalculator"
[12:59] <t0th_-> hello
[12:59] <ottoshmidt> gcalc is wrong :((
[12:59] <t0th_-> how to add emoticon in pidgin?
[12:59] <manoff> somebody else here might know???
[12:59] <bing> hello everyone i stuffed up my laptop trying out ubuntu for first time, cant change resoultion wireless internet wont work and ive deleted vista by accident
[12:59] <bing> what can i do to fix this
[12:59] <bing> lol
[12:59] <_adriaan> 1;3C/w cupu
[13:00] <bing> omg this is bad
[13:00] <_adriaan> oops
[13:00] <_adriaan> sorry
[13:00] <ottoshmidt> manoff: okok thanks anyway
[13:00] <t0th_-> how to add emoticon in pidgin?
[13:00] <manoff> ottoshmidt: no problems
[13:00] <manoff> bing: what ubuntu version?
[13:00] <manoff> bing: 8.04?
[13:00] <bing> 8.04
[13:01] <manoff> bing: you can try correct the WLAN by connecting with LAN first and have your update manager synch with repositories
[13:01] <manoff> bing: it might find you a suitable driver, it worked for me
[13:01] <bing> ok
[13:01] <bing> ill try that now
[13:01] <bing> 1 min
[13:01] <manoff> bing: so, connect with LAN, play around with internet for while, and you might get notified by the system that new updates are available for you
[13:02] <manoff> bing: deleting vista cant be resolved by anything else than reinstalling it
[13:02] <blurry> if something says to ucode something what does that mean?
[13:03] <manoff> im going to eat some chicken now
[13:03] <t0th_-> how to add emoticon in pidgin?
[13:03] <maek> a question: Is there any .deb file for Firefox 3 RC1 on Gusty ??
[13:03] <|mario|> hey there. i am trying to install ubuntu8.04 with the normal cd. but i am always getting either a kernel panic or a error like error_code+0x72/0x80
[13:03] <|mario|> The cd even does not boot into live system
[13:03] <|mario|> its halting inbetween telling me that something is wrong with the fs
[13:03] <|mario|> kernel panic is telling me something about vfs not syncing etc...
[13:03] <FloodBot3> |mario|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:03] <hirak99> why did you delete vista?
[13:03] <|mario|> anyone any idea how i can solve thaT?
[13:03] <|mario|> another error is segfault at foo ... error 4
[13:03] <hirak99> not that it's a bad thing...
[13:03] <|mario|> ubuntuusers didnt really helped me with that
[13:03] <tritonx> mario: have you tried the memory test ?
[13:04] <charliecb> hi
[13:04] <hirak99> |mario|: the cd checks out is it? on self diagnostic?
[13:04] <manoff> i have a problem: my appartment is a mess and i cant cook, how do i config my ubuntu to do that?
[13:05] <|mario|> hey there. i am trying to install ubuntu8.04 with the normal cd. but i am always getting either a kernel panic or a error like error_code+0x72/0x80
[13:05] <|mario|> The cd even does not boot into live system
[13:05] <|mario|> its halting inbetween telling me that something is wrong with the fs
[13:05] <|mario|> kernel panic is telling me something about vfs not syncing etc...
[13:05] <manoff> |mario|: report a bug
[13:05] <|mario|> nah it booted correctly once
[13:05] <tdawgedogg> /dev/sda1 /mnt/media ntfs users,defaults,umask=000 0 0
[13:05] <tdawgedogg>   does this mean im mounting the drive to /media?
[13:05] <hirak99> |mario|: either the cd is bad, or there is a bug in the ubuntu 8.04 causing this
[13:05] <|mario|> then during install i think something went wrong
[13:06] <charliecb> i want to download my photos from an canon ixus  80 with nautilus. since gnome 2.22, there should be an option for gphoto2. enter in nautilus gphoto2:// . but that doesn't work. i can import photos, but i can't use nautilus to see all photos from the camera.
[13:06] <hirak99> 3rd possibility is that your config is faulty
[13:06] <|mario|> can i repair the hdd with the live cd?
[13:06] <hirak99> but if it's a memory problem i'd expect the error not to be exactly the same everytime
[13:06] <manoff> tdawgedogg: no to /mnt/media
[13:07] <peternix> what is the canonical graph visualization software for linux?
[13:07] <hirak99> |mario|: if i recall correctly the cd has a self diagnostic in the menu... does the menu appear at all?
[13:07] <charliecb> see http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.22/index.html.de (and search for gphoto2:// )
[13:07] <Frozenball> How do I change the default browser in KDE?
[13:07] <peternix> there's graphviz and others
[13:07] <Frozenball> It's annoying when links in Xchat open Konqueror instead of Firefox
[13:07]  * peternix wants the canonical one
[13:07] <|mario|> yes
[13:07] <charliecb> peternix: http://www.graphviz.org/
[13:07] <peternix> right
[13:07] <peternix> that's what I downloaded, cool
[13:07] <backslash7> Frozenball: sudo update-alternatives
[13:08] <backslash7> sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser I guess
[13:08] <tdawgedogg> manoff: if i want it to just mount to media then do i take out the /mnt part and just put /media?
[13:08] <peternix> btw, anyone know if ubuntu's default encryption + lvm install includes swap?
[13:08] <Frozenball> Sounds suspicious
[13:08] <peternix> I did a default encryption + lvm install
[13:08] <bing> is there anyway to reinstall windows if ive deleted the partiton i had it in
[13:08] <manoff> tdawgedogg: yea
[13:08] <Frozenball> Why would you need to root access to change the default browser
[13:08] <Frozenball> Linux is, as far as I know, multi-user system
[13:08] <|mario|> as i said hirak99 it booted once and i was able to install the system. but then something went wrong. the system froze. now i am getting kernel panic about vfs not syncing, and i am also getting segfault at fooo ... error 4
[13:08] <tdawgedogg> manoff: i dont even think /mount/media exists....does the directory have to exist before i mount it there or will it just auto make the directory?
[13:09] <backslash7> uuuh so no sudo whatever... Frozenball
[13:09] <|mario|> i am not sure why. i just want to boot the live system to install the system.
[13:09] <plutarcus> hi all
[13:09] <manoff> tdawgedogg: mkdir first
[13:09] <plutarcus> i'm having a trouble with the last ati drivers and compiz on ubuntu hardy. can someone help me?
[13:10] <manoff> tdawgedogg: and watch out that it is /mnt not /mount
[13:10] <Ienorand> How can you change the password for a specific wireless network to something else than root password?
[13:10] <tdawgedogg> /dev/sda1 /media ntfs users,defaults,umask=000 0 0
[13:10] <tdawgedogg> ....if i add this to fstab will this ntfs drive be automounted at startup?
[13:10] <tdawgedogg> manoff: ^^^^
[13:10] <a7c> which of these (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware) drivers do I need to make my bcm94311mcg broadcom wlan card work?
[13:10] <manoff> tdawgedogg: i think so
[13:10] <kenois> plutarcus, state the problem :)
[13:10] <ottoshmidt> How do I get someone from my ignore list? I did it accidentally
[13:11] <backslash7> a7c: haha you were on that once this morning xD
[13:11] <manoff> tdawgedogg: i havent played around with fstab much
[13:11] <tdawgedogg> ok thanks
[13:11] <a7c> backslash: yah, i had to go due to a retarded thunderstorm
[13:11] <manoff> ottoshmidt: what software are we talking about?
[13:11] <backslash7> backslash7: lol
[13:11] <backslash7> lol2
[13:11] <backslash7> a7c: lol*
[13:12] <a7c> linux is supposed to be so incredibly awesome..but I can't even get my darned wifi working, lol
[13:12] <a7c> afk
[13:12] <manoff> a7c: who said that?
[13:12] <manoff> a7c: i think linux is good but it has its problems of course
[13:13] <plutarcus> i've installed the last ati driver and all it's ok, but when i start compiz, appears a "strip" that covers the down part of desktop
[13:13] <plutarcus> sorry for my english =)
[13:13] <Dr_willis> a7c,  blame the wireless  chipset makers for not releasing specs.  - Heck.. Im lucky to get wireless working under windows half the time.. :P
[13:15] <manoff> yeah
[13:15] <bing> ok how do i acess my recovery drive or have i deleted that to when i installed ubuntu
[13:15] <manoff> bing: recovery drive?
[13:15] <bing> yeah i had a recovery drive for vista
[13:16] <bing> but i think i formatted over that also
[13:16] <manoff> sipior: are you still here?
[13:16] <sipior> manoff: yes, i am
[13:16] <bing> THIS DAY IS A DISASTER
[13:16] <manoff> sipior: the problem is that this app is windows stuff
[13:16] <bing> why did i piss around
[13:16] <manoff> sipior: i cant run it on linux
[13:16] <vlt> fde: I installed epdfview but when trying to open a file I get "Failed to load document '/home/dm/foo.tif'. No error."
[13:17] <manoff> sipior: and its has GUI interface and i dont even have X installed
[13:17] <m1r> manoff: what app?
[13:17] <sipior> manoff: well, you can try running it under wine. or have a go with any number of virtual machines under linux. you will need X installed for the gui though...
[13:18] <manoff> yeah...
[13:18] <plutarcus> i've installed the last ati driver and all it's ok, but when i start compiz, appears a "strip" that covers the down part of desktop
[13:18] <manoff> m1r: im just having some old device that connects to PS/2 and closed source win app to operate with it, im trying to solve the protocol these two communicate with
[13:18] <Dr_willis> bing,  try 'sudo fdisk -l' and see what partitions are still on your drives. for my system. there was a grub boot entry for both the vista , and the recovery 'partition'
[13:18] <manoff> m1r: any ideas?
[13:18] <manoff> m1r: i would need some sort of PS/2 packet sniffer
[13:19] <m1r> manoff: ouch :/
[13:19] <manoff> m1r: indeed
[13:19] <thefish> anyone here have any luck with azurewave AW-NE770 wifi module and madwifi? </longshot>
[13:19] <sriramoman> how do i merge songs, preferably using ffmpeg?
[13:19] <m1r> manoff: dont think even virtual install cant help u on that
[13:19] <manoff> ah
[13:19] <manoff> yeah
[13:19] <m1r> manoff: what device ?
[13:19] <manoff> m1r: sorry i cant tell you the details
[13:20] <manoff> just somethinng that uses PS/2 for communication
[13:20] <m1r> manoff: then harder u get help :)
[13:20] <a7c> which of these (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware) drivers do I need to make my bcm94311mcg broadcom wlan card work?
[13:20] <manoff> m1r: can i contact you with a private message?
[13:20] <m1r> yes manoff
[13:21] <manoff> m1r: ok i did
[13:21] <alastair1> I'm not getting reminders from evolution's calendar. Anyone got any ideas what might beu p?
[13:21] <manoff> m1r: you are away it says
[13:21] <a7c> grrrr...afk again -.- pm me with any answers please
[13:21] <thefish> or... can anyone recommend a mini pci-e wlan nic that works with madwifi (atheros)
[13:22] <tyberion> can anybody tell me what I can do when my gedit wont start anymore?
[13:23] <sipior> tyberion: no error message?
[13:23] <tyberion> sipior: no =(
[13:23] <jack__> whats the channel for compiz?
[13:23] <sipior> tyberion: does gksudo gedit work?
[13:24] <Viden> Good morning all ... I have a question about the update-manager.  This morning it is showing updates for evolution, which I have purged from my system.  Does anyone know why these updates would be showing still, even with evolution gone?
[13:24] <_adriaan> killall gnome-panel
[13:24] <_adriaan> oh damnit
[13:24] <sipior> Viden: might be that another package expects to see it there. isn't evolution required for ubuntu-desktop?
[13:24] <sriramoman> killall -9 gnome-panel
[13:24] <sriramoman> for force
[13:25] <_adriaan> nevermind, was simply meant to be typed in another window :)
[13:25] <Viden> sipior .. not sure if its required for ubuntu-desktop .. that might be it.  Its a POS though and just eating space on this machine, so i really just want it gone.  Can i blacklist it from updates ?
[13:25] <tyberion> sipior: yeah that worx..
[13:26] <tyberion> sipior: so i just need to get rid of some user specified file??
[13:26] <sipior> Viden: i agree with you about evolution, but a blacklist might make more trouble in the future...
[13:26] <sipior> tyberion: interesting. do you have a .Xauthority file in your home directory. and, if so, who is the owner?
[13:27] <a7c> how do I know which of these (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware) drivers is the one for my darn wlan card?
[13:27] <tyberion> sipior: yeah ive got one... uhrm its my user
[13:27] <Viden> sipior ... honestly im running outlook 2003 though wine, evolution is total junk for accessing exchange.  crashing every 2 mins with "lost connection to exchange backend server"
[13:28] <aged> is there abeginers chanel please
[13:28] <jrib> aged: this one is for beginners and experts
[13:28] <Viden> aged:  this is pretty much it ... just ask questions
[13:28] <a7c> aged: this prett y much is the biginners channel
[13:28] <aged> ok
[13:29] <a7c> *is still waiting for an answer, lol*
[13:29] <Viden> a7c:  do you have a broadcom wireless card ?
[13:29] <a7c> yep
[13:29] <a7c> dunno which of those firmwares is the right one
[13:30] <sipior> tyberion: okay, so that's not the problem :-) could you pastebin the output of "gksudo strace -o output gedit"
[13:30] <Roughneck_cowboy> control + F7 ne fonctionne pas
[13:30] <aged> run wubi ask for rebbot take ages to go throught to front emd and then stops with flashing cursor top left of screnn trying to run dual boot
[13:30] <Viden> a7c:  the fwcutter driver didnt work well for me ... honestly, just use the ndiswrapper driver with the windows files.  there is a huge howto on the forums
[13:30] <a7c> i had issues with the darn dniswrapper
[13:30] <tyberion> gksudo: invalid option -- o
[13:30] <a7c> it would show my wireless card as active and wonderful, but it wouldn't show up in network options
[13:31] <tyberion> sipior: i dont have strace:(
[13:31] <sipior> tyberion: now's a good time to install it...sudo apt-get install strace
[13:31] <Viden> a7c:  i was only able to get 2mb using the cutter, but you can just install it at sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter.  It will walk you through an install
[13:31] <a7c> viden: can i private you when i get back from taking my sisters to school?
[13:32] <Viden> a7c:  sure i should be here
[13:32] <jack__> does anyone know much about the latest compiz plugins?
[13:32] <Viden> a7c: just know that the broadcom cards are junk in linux still ... sadly they are rather binary, either totally working, or not at all
[13:33] <Viden> a7c:  all 3 of my laptops have them, 2 work ... 1 doesnt without the ndiswrapper
[13:33] <tyberion> sipior: uhm, theres no output??
[13:33] <sipior> tyberion: there should be a new file in that directory...
[13:34] <tyberion> sipior: yeah there is one.. but.. its rather large..
[13:34] <sipior> tyberion: good!
[13:34] <sipior> tyberion: try pastebinning the last hundred lines or so
[13:34] <avippy> Anyone with experience with getting a projector under an nvidia driver to a higher resolution than 640x480?
[13:34] <steven2> overnight test check
[13:35] <steven2> confirmed
[13:35] <sipior> !pastebin | tyberion
[13:35] <tyberion> http://pastebin.org/39686
[13:35] <Ienorand> ﻿How can you change the password for a specific wireless network to something else than root password?
[13:36] <Ienorand> so that I can connect to it without usung root pwd?
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[13:36] <steven2> thanks guys
[13:36] <avippy> !projector | aviipy
[13:36] <avippy> Meh!
[13:37] <denfranc> I want to compile a custom kernel for my laptop.. So far I was unsuccessful. Can someone help ?
[13:37] <Viden> avippy:  http://techxplorer.com/2007/11/15/getting-a-projector-to-work-under-ubuntu-linux-with-nvidia-drivers/
[13:37] <Viden> google is your friend
[13:37] <avippy> I did google, and did try the results.
[13:37] <avippy> Nothing seems to work.
[13:38] <avippy> It still forces it to be 640x480... :S
[13:38] <Viden> does the projector support more ?
[13:38] <avippy> There used to be this neat graphics and displays tool in the old Ubuntu.
[13:38] <avippy> Where did it go?
[13:38] <Viden> nvidia-settings
[13:38] <avippy> Ugh, Viden, it is a HUGE projector used for uni purposes.
[13:38] <avippy> nvidia-settings sucks.
[13:39] <avippy> Why can't I force nvidia-settings?
[13:39] <Viden> avippy ... with the nvidia driver thats your only option, unless you feel like editing the xorg.conf file
[13:39] <avippy> I always feel like editing xorg.conf files!
[13:40] <ThRixXx> Is there anyway I can download the 3.3 ubuntu skin thingy version https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?highlight=(CategoryArtwork)
[13:40] <tdawgedogg> can someone analyze my fstab file http://pastebin.org/39688
[13:40] <Viden> avippy: u using twinview ?
[13:40] <tdawgedogg> i cant get any of my drives to mount on startup
[13:41] <tyberion> whats the command to enter synaptic package manager?
[13:41] <AcornAcorn> argh, i got an error when i restarted my computer just now and logged it, it went something like this: "$HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored, $HOME must not be writeable by other users" what does this mean? what problems is it causing? how do i fix it?
[13:41] <Viden> tyberion:  sudo synaptic
[13:41] <sipior> tyberion: how big is the output file? could you pastebin the lot?
[13:41] <Viden> or gksudo synaptic
[13:42] <tdawgedogg> can someone analyze my fstab file http://pastebin.org/39688
[13:42] <sipior> tyberion: also, does the file /root/.recently-used.xbel exist on your system?
[13:42] <AcornAcorn> did i break ubuntu? :(
[13:42] <ThRixXx> how can I install this ?https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?highlight=(CategoryArtwork)
[13:43] <blurry> buye
[13:43] <blurry> bye
[13:43] <denfranc> ﻿I want to compile a custom kernel for my laptop.. So far I was unsuccessful. Can someone help ?
[13:43] <tyberion> sipior: http://pastebin.org/39690
[13:43] <tyberion> sipior: but now I ran gedit as root... thats ok eh?
[13:44] <tdawgedogg> can someone analyze my fstab file http://pastebin.org/39688
[13:44] <Tailsfan> Hello, If I we're to install via Wubi, can I still add the DVDs as repos?
[13:44] <tyberion> sipior: yeah exists
[13:44] <avippy> Viden:  Yes.
[13:44] <sipior> tyberion: could you try running it as a regular user and pastebinning that output as well?
[13:44] <AcornAcorn> could someone help me with the error i'm getting when logging it?
[13:44] <AcornAcorn> *in
[13:45] <ThRixXx> I need help where can I get this ?
[13:45] <ThRixXx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?highlight=(CategoryArtwork)
[13:45] <Pici> ThRixXx: Those are mockups, not actual themes.
[13:46] <ThRixXx> damm :( They look soooo cool!!!!
[13:46] <tyberion> sipior: yeah without sudo that is.. but i need to ctrl+c then
[13:47] <sipior> tyberion: that's fine
[13:47] <ZeroA4> Can i "upgrade" from 8.04 32bits to 8.04 64bits ? like i upgrade from 7.10 ? i.e. without having to format "/" and reinstall everything ?
[13:47] <bazhang> ThRixXx, may have to wait until next release
[13:47] <tyberion> sipior: http://pastebin.org/39693   ran as user
[13:48] <AcornAcorn> can nobody help me with my error?
[13:48] <jrib> AcornAcorn: did you mess with permissions?
[13:49] <AcornAcorn> jrib: possibly, I know I was trying to make another user and allow that user to right to a folder on my home directory, i don't know why that would cause a problem
[13:49] <AcornAcorn> *write
[13:50] <jrib> AcornAcorn: what is the output of: ls -l ~/.dmrc
[13:50] <Helios> can anyone please tell me where can i find a good msn client for ubuntu?
[13:50] <jrib> Helios: pidgin or amsn
[13:50] <Helios> ok thanks
[13:50] <AcornAcorn> jrib: -rw------- 1 johannes johannes 28 2008-05-28 12:23 /home/johannes/.dmrc
[13:50] <ZeroA4> Can i "upgrade" from 8.04 32bits to 8.04 64bits ? like i upgrade from 7.10 ? i.e. without having to format "/" and reinstall everything ?
[13:50] <nick_> Helios, try amsn
[13:50] <jrib> Helios: they are both in the repositories
[13:51] <jrib> AcornAcorn: and: ls -ld ~
[13:51] <Helios> i am getting some problems using amsn... i am not being able to type in :(
[13:51] <sipior> tyberion: hmm. if you make a new user account temporarily, does it work correctly with that account?
[13:51] <AcornAcorn> jrib: drwxrwxrwx 54 johannes johannes 4096 2008-05-30 13:39 /home/johannes
[13:51] <jrib> AcornAcorn: yes, you need to change that
[13:52] <Ienorand> How can you change the password for a specific wireless network to something else than root password?
[13:52] <Ienorand> so that I can connect to it without using root pwd?
[13:52] <sipior> tyberion: also, could you try a "ps aux | grep gedit" and see if any zombie instances are hanging around?
[13:53] <anonymous__> hey, why is brasero telling me my blank disks can be appended to but they have 0 bytes free?
[13:53] <tyberion> sipior sec
[13:54] <sipior> tyberion: that last command shouldn't return anything, except perhaps the "grep" itself. if there are other instances of gedit running, kill them and try running it again.
[13:54] <anonymous__> itt: how the f- do i get brasero to write me a f-ing audio cd
[13:54] <anonymous__> lol
[13:54] <tyberion> sipior: no gedit instance running
[13:54] <tyberion> only the grep one as u said
[13:54] <tyberion> how do I create a new user acc quickly?
[13:54] <netron1234> anon-> i've never had any problems with K3B... worth a shot.
[13:55] <codecaine> tyberion adduser
[13:55] <netron1234> tyberion -> useradd
[13:55] <mx-tvt> k3b is great :)
[13:55] <ZeroA4> Is it possibel to "upgrade" from 8.04 32bits to 8.04 64bits ? like the upgrade from 7.10 ? i.e. without having to format "/" and reinstall everything ?
[13:55] <codecaine> yea I love it mx-tvt
[13:55] <AcornAcorn> jrib: do you know what i'd need to do?
[13:55] <anonymous__> tyberion system>administration>users and groups or alternatively you can use 'useradd' in terminal
[13:55] <jrib> AcornAcorn: chmod 755 ~
[13:55] <tech0007> what the latest generic kernel for intrepid?
[13:55] <codecaine> Not sure about hat ZeroA4
[13:56] <anonymous__> someone tell me why brasero thinks my blank discs have 0 bytes free on them
[13:56] <Pici> !info linux intrepid | tech0007
[13:56] <anonymous__> please
[13:56] <netron1234> zeroA4 -> not sure. wouldnt all your software around the kernel also have to be 64 bit?
[13:56] <tyberion> is there a way to run sth as a different user from the current X started as another user?
[13:56] <tech0007> Pici: i have -17. should I install -16?
[13:57] <ZeroA4> netron1234, yes... but like the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 updated most my things (most are installed via apt)
[13:57] <AcornAcorn> jrib: oh yeah, my dad asked me to change the permissions to 777 so that he could write to my home folder -.-
[13:58] <AcornAcorn> jrib: why is that not allowed?
[13:58] <jrib> AcornAcorn: security issues I assume
[13:58] <foldart> ZeroA4: no, it's start from scratch i'm afraid
[13:58] <ZeroA4> codecaine, how can i list all packages instaled in apt ? then i could just make a big apt-get install "lits"
[13:58] <ZeroA4> foldart, how can i list all packages instaled in apt ? then i could just make a big apt-get install "the list"
[13:58] <jrib> AcornAcorn: try 775 and see if you still get an error, then we'll give your dad access by putting him in a group
[13:58] <Pici> tech0007: Intrepid questions really belong in #ubuntu+1
[13:58] <codecaine> AcornAcorn 777 will allow everything read write execute to you home
[13:59] <foldart> ZeroA4: dpkg --get-selections
[13:59] <sipior> tyberion: easier just to log out and log in, i'm afraid :)
[13:59] <amenado> !clone
[14:00] <foldart> ZeroA4: dpkg --get-selections > somefile     then use it as input to 'dpkg --set-selections' when ready
[14:00] <codecaine> ZeroA4 apt-cache dump
[14:00] <foldart> amenado: heh :)
[14:00] <ZeroA4> codecaine, foldart, thanks ... will try to "upgrade" by hand :)
[14:01] <foldart> ZeroA4: good luck
[14:01] <AcornAcorn> jrib: i don't really understand about groups, but how will 775 know who to put into the group?
[14:01] <AcornAcorn> codecaine: I can see why that might not be too secure :P
[14:01] <jrib> AcornAcorn: I'll help you with that after, lets check that you don't get an error first
[14:01] <AcornAcorn> jrib: ok, time to restart then
[14:02] <tyberion> sipior: ok ill do in a second
[14:02] <AcornAcorn> brb
[14:04] <Prelude> Im trying to install ubuntu on my external hardrive, to do that i have to install lilo through chroot, only.... when in chroot mode, im not connected to the internet... how do i fix that?
[14:04] <tyberion> sipior: well, with the other user, gedit works too
[14:04] <ThRixXx> !awn
[14:05] <foldart> Prelude: try copying /etc/resolv.conf into /etc in the chroot
[14:05] <bing> i have a hp pavillion dv6620ea laptop with a broadcom wireless, how do i make it work
[14:05] <AcornAcorn> bingo!
[14:05] <^root1> I installed lamp-server using tasksel, now when I did tasksel remove lamp-server, it started removing other things like banshee player, blueproximity, blue-utilz, and then I stopped it, why?
[14:06] <amenado> bing power it on
[14:06] <bing> please help  me ive deleted vista not backed anything up
[14:06] <AcornAcorn> jjrib: worked a treat
[14:06] <AcornAcorn> *jrib: worked a treat
[14:06] <bing> how do i do that ive never used linux in my life i was having a play
[14:06] <amenado> bing if you have the liveCd cdrom, insert it in the drive and power it up
[14:07] <bing> the disk i made
[14:07] <jrib> AcornAcorn: alright, so the easy way to give your dad permission now is to just add your dad to the johannes group: sudo adduser YOUR_DADS_USERNAME johannes
[14:07] <bing> i need the wireless to work
[14:07] <sipior> Prelude: well, you're still connected, merely entering a chroot doesn't change that. if you're having trouble with name resolution, just copy /etc/resolv.conf into the new root
[14:08] <sipior> bloody hell, i'm lagging today
[14:08] <bing> not ubunto i got the graphics card working
[14:08] <AcornAcorn> jrib: and what exactly does that do? does that mean he has permission to do what i can do (ie. edit my files) and also permission to edit his own files, but i can't do anything to his files right?
[14:08]  * sipior goes to clean the wireless antennae
[14:08] <dave12> what is it fcsk died level 8
[14:09] <codecaine> AcornAcorn if you do man adduser
[14:09] <dave12> my ubuntu said fcsk died level 8
[14:09] <dave12> ???
[14:09] <codecaine> you will see everyting you can od with it :)
[14:09] <amenado> dave12-> level8 is mighty serious fault
[14:09] <bing> but the wireless card wont turn on
[14:09] <jrib> AcornAcorn: right, he can edit anything the group johannes has access to but won't be able to edit anything of his
[14:09] <jrib> s/but/but you
[14:09] <AcornAcorn> jrib: perfect!
[14:10] <sipior> tyberion: so, looks like a corrupted config file. you might try removing any gedit-related files in .gnome2 or .gnome_private
[14:10] <AcornAcorn> jrib: and then obviously i could do the same the other way around
[14:10] <jrib> AcornAcorn: sure
[14:10] <AcornAcorn> jrib: is there any way to view all the different groups?
[14:10] <jrib> AcornAcorn: cat /etc/group   or use System -> Administration -> Users and groups
[14:11] <sipior> tyberion: by the way, did you make any changes to your system or work environment immediately before the trouble started?
[14:11] <bing> does anyone know how to turn the wifi on ubuntu804
[14:11] <tyberion> sipior: I dont think so...
[14:11] <erUSUL> !wifi | bing
[14:11] <tyberion> sipior: k ill get rid of those files
[14:11] <AcornAcorn> jrib: wow, there are a lot of groups
[14:12] <The_ManU_212> hi
[14:12] <erUSUL> bing: you will have to provide more info. What type of wifi card you have (chip)
[14:12] <The_ManU_212> i wanted to know if all my devices are ok or if there went something wrong with fsck
[14:12] <The_ManU_212>  http://pastebin.com/m1de93f68
[14:12] <Jessica> Hi Folks, can someone please help me resolve a ddclient issue?  I'm about to smash this @#%@&!# machine...  ddclient does not seem to want to log into zoneedit.  I keep getting a "update failed" message in the daemon.log but I have no clue WHY it is failing.
[14:12] <dave12> which fault
[14:12] <The_ManU_212> perhaps FAT32 partition and /dev/sdb3?
[14:12] <dave12> I can enter in ubuntu
[14:13] <jrib> Jessica: I don't really want to help debug that but ddclient works fine for me with dyndns in case you can't sorte out the zoneedit issue
[14:13] <tyberion> sipior: i removed all the stuff.. but no success =(
[14:14] <out> ryg9I çäàðîâ
[14:14] <mooGirl> out said "ryg9I 玟囵钼" in GB2312, but we speak UTF8 here
[14:14] <Jessica> jrib: it was working fine on my old rh9.2 machine last week.
[14:14] <sipior> tyberion: you might try temporarily renaming .gnome2 to something else, and see if that changes anything
[14:15] <bazhang> out japanese?
[14:15] <tyberion> sipior: still no work:(
[14:15] <out> bazhang russian
[14:15] <sipior> tyberion: hmmm...
[14:15] <bazhang> !ru | out
[14:15] <amenado> Jessica-> you can try   strace ddclient   to get a full blown debugging and see which libraries it calls and where it fails...
[14:15] <out> no,thx
[14:15] <out> :D
[14:16] <mohamed_> hello all, to install minimal ubuntu, i want to install ubuntu for specific pc no need for all unwanted drivers, applications ..etc, i only need one application, anyone tell me from where i start ?
[14:16] <Jessica> amenado: I'll try that
[14:16] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: what application is that?
[14:16] <erUSUL> !minimal | mohamed_
[14:17] <beyta> hello guys... anyway i have a problem to setup my bluetooth hardware on my notebook.. anybody can help me?
[14:17] <mohamed_> Odd-rationale: is elisa mediacenter
[14:17] <mohamed_> thanks erUSUL
[14:17] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: you can use the alternative cd and install a command line system
[14:18] <Jessica> amenado: could you help me decypher this mess that strace gave me?
[14:18] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: the mini.iso will simply download all the packages during install... whether you want ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, or cli...
[14:18] <biesbjerg__> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 Server Edition and am now trying to setup password-protected Samba shares... But I'm not doing so great... I followed a how-to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605) and I'm now able to see a share from my windows box, but when I try to enter the share windows says: You might not have permission to access this network ressource. Any ideas? Username / password is added to samba and corres
[14:18] <Pramod_Helios> How can i do a file hosting from my ubuntu?
[14:18] <amenado> Jessica-> nope, the name of the system calls and such is basically what they are..all the extra fluffs..i dont know
[14:18] <biesbjerg__> user exists on my windows box...
[14:19] <navetz> what is a good way to benchmark your system?
[14:19] <tyberion> sipior: grrr... i dont know what to do :(
[14:19] <beyta> anybody can help me? how to setup my bluetooth hardware on my notebook
[14:19] <mohamed_> Odd-rationale: i can't install mini and application i want and its lib only ?
[14:20] <amenado> beyta it may help a bit better if you google for the how to bluetooth + ubuntu and then if you get stuck following one, come here then..but get yourself started first
[14:20] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: you can install a command line system and install whatever you need on top of that.
[14:20] <pepe_ur> hi, i'm trying to install update-manager-core to a dapper system. but `apt-get install update-manager-core` wants me to insert the 'Ubuntu-Server 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake' CD. well i can't do that, since the machine is 1000km away. how can I get apt to download this package
[14:20] <sipior> tyberion: as a last resort, you could try removing every bit of .gnome crap from your home directory. i hesitate to suggest that, since it means resetting every preference you may have established
[14:20] <Pramod_Helios> How can i do a file hosting from my ubuntu?
[14:21] <bazhang> pepe_ur, remove cd from sources.list
[14:21] <bimble> is anyone running secondlife?  and can give me a clue how to start it under gnome? (mince complains a .kde directory is missing)
[14:21] <erUSUL> pepe_ur: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cd as repo reload (apt-get update) and install
[14:21] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: you need the alternative cd to do. just on the boot menu, press f4 or something for further options. select, "install command line system"
[14:21] <sipior> tyberion: so .gnome2 and .gnome_private, at least
[14:21] <Pramod_Helios> how can i turn my ubuntu into an ftp server?
[14:21] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: the livecd will not let you install a cli
[14:21] <pepe_ur> thanks, bazhang and erUSUL
[14:21] <erUSUL> !ftpd | Pramod_Helios
[14:21] <mohamed_> Odd-rationale: that's good i have ubuntu-server CD this can do the job ?
[14:21] <beyta> amenado: i have try a lot of ways that i found from uncle google.. but everything is failed..
[14:22] <magnetron> Pramod_Helios: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[14:22] <Pramod_Helios> thanks
[14:22] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: yes, but it might install a bunch of server utils you may or may not need/want...
[14:22] <tyberion> sipior: hmm ok ill give that a try in a sec
[14:22] <amenado> beyta i dont have a bluetooth, however if you narrow the problem to some specifics, some people here might know, so try narrow it down where it fails
[14:22] <sipior> tyberion: just be careful with the deleting, and make sure your own data are safe :-)
[14:22] <mohamed_> thanks Odd-rationale
[14:23] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: np
[14:23] <amenado> mohamed_-> i have another suggestion
[14:23] <JoeWendell> If I have an Atheros based wirefless card, how do I use MadWifi to get it working? Does Madwifi come with Hardy or do I need to install it? My chip is AR5416, so do I need to get a special driver for it?
[14:23] <mohamed_> i'm here amenado  :)
[14:23] <amenado> mohamed_-> you boot from a livecd,  create an ext3  partition
[14:23] <magnetron> JoeWendell: madwifi is installed automatically in hardy
[14:23] <codecaine> Have to instlal it JoeWendell
[14:24] <codecaine> think its in the respirtory
[14:24] <amenado> mohamed_-> then you install debootstrap while in livecd, then mount the partition you created and put the output of debootstrap on it
[14:24] <vxd2> how can i identify if emails are being sent out by using my sendmail?
[14:24] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: for more information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems<
[14:24] <erUSUL> magnetron: i do not think so... the new ath_pci driver is used afaik
[14:24] <Jessica> ok guys.  I'm NOT a linux user.  We all know that.  It took me forever to get the RH9.2 webserver up and running years ago.  But I got it running and it worked fine for years.  Then, I come in here a month ago and get FLAMED to hell for running an old piece of crap.  "It's insecure!", "You're trashing the whole internet!", "throw it in the trash" you all told me.  So, I finally did what you asked and installed ubuntu.  Now I c
[14:24] <Odd-rationale> whoops: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[14:24] <rayondeson> vxd2: send one to yourself and see if it arrives
[14:25] <bazhang> Jessica, there a question in there?
[14:25] <Stormx2> Hey guys. How can I check what users are currently logged into to SSH?
[14:25] <sipior> bazhang: sounds like it will be exciting, either way
[14:25] <fbn> hi, is there a way to delete files on a remote ftp server in a shell script?
[14:25] <Jessica> baz: I've been asking the question all morning.
[14:25] <fbn> Stormx2: try w
[14:26] <JoeWendell> magnetron, codecaine, erUSUL: If I search "madwifi" in Synaptic it only shows "linux-restricted-modules...." installed, not anything about Madwifi. So how do I know it is installed please?
[14:26] <sipior> Jessica: then one more go shouldn't trouble you
[14:26] <mohamed_> amenado: Odd-rationale that's nice i can try all today and see which is work faster, all today for mediacenter :)
[14:26] <amenado> Jessica-> not all people can read what you previously pasted, easy easy
[14:26] <bazhang> Jessica, perhaps rephrase it a bit without editorial comments will get you a quicker answer
[14:26] <mike168> hi.  I am new to IRC and linux and would like some help
[14:26] <perillux> can someone tell me how to pass an argument into a shell script?
[14:27] <vxd2> rayondeson: no it arrives but i think i was hacked and i want to see if my box is used to spam
[14:27] <bazhang> mike168, we need a question :)
[14:27] <amenado> perillux-> scriptname j1 j2    j1 and j2 are arguments
[14:27] <Odd-rationale> mohamed_: you might be interested in mythbuntu...
[14:27] <Odd-rationale> !mythbuntu | mohamed_
[14:27] <bazhang> or geekbox
[14:27] <Jessica> The question: ddclient reports "last updated <never> but last update XXXXX failed" in the daemon.log
[14:28] <sipior> perillux: under bash, the first arguement is stored in $1, the second in $2, etcetera
[14:28] <Jessica> it doesn't give me any more detail as to why it failed.
[14:28] <perillux> amenado: I mean like, in the actual script, how do I recieve those arguments to use them in the script
[14:28] <rayondeson> vxd2: check the logs then. While you're unsure whether or not you've been hacked, you should disconnect physically.
[14:28] <perillux> sipior: ok thank you :)  that seems easy enough
[14:28] <amenado> perillux-> per sipior you refer to them as  $1 $2
[14:28] <vxd2> rayondeson: what string should i look for in maillog?>
[14:29] <Jessica> any ideas?
[14:29] <sipior> perillux: yep. check out the advanced bash-scripting guide at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ for a great introduction
[14:29] <Trae> Looking for a mouse expert.  when I press both buttons at the same time, they don't engage as they used to under Ubuntu 7.04.   The problem is this, when I'm in WoW(World of Warcraft) and press both buttons together,  they don't engage.  Anyone know a fix?
[14:29] <bazhang> Jessica, what are you trying to accomplish could you please clarify
[14:29] <amenado> perillux-> then if you want to get fancy..  getopts and getopt  are bash commands you can use to manipulate them
[14:29] <erUSUL> Jessica: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ddclient
[14:29] <JoeWendell> erUSUL: Since there seems to be disagreement, how do I know if madwifi is installed or not? What do I check?
[14:29] <codecaine> perillux you pass a argument for example ./myscript arg1 arg2
[14:30] <Jessica> bazhang: I am trying to get ddclient to update my record in zoneedit
[14:30] <mohamed_> Odd-rationale: bazhang mythbuntu, is good also geexbox is very light but i need to create the system from scratch to have control on it because it will built on via mini-itx board to get out on TV
[14:30] <codecaine> $1 $2 to rectrieve those args
[14:30] <perillux> sipior: amenado: thanx for the great responses
[14:30] <Frogzoo> !mouse | Trae
[14:30] <HiTo> How can I try to rebuild/recover a destroyed ext2 partition if testdisk find some superblocks ?
[14:30] <codecaine> of course arg $0 is the path and script name
[14:30] <rayondeson> perillux: the command line arguments are available in the script as $1 $2 and so on (or $* for all of them)
[14:30] <mike168> I have set up a spare PC for experimenting with Linux.  My PC has 1 IDE DVD, 1IDE CD, 2 SATA hard disks and 1 USB hard disk.  I set up ubuntu 8.04 32 bit on SATA hard disk 1, Ubuntu 8.04 64 bit on hard disk 2, Debian 4 64 bit on USB hard disk.  I could boot to all of them.  My question: I could try hibernate on Ubuntu 32 bit, Debian 64 bit but not Ubuntu 64 bit.  I don't know why.
[14:30] <amenado> JoeWendell-> look around  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/madwifi  if it exist -- they are only there, but it doesn meang get modprobed
[14:30] <sipior> Jessica: is it possible to run ddclient directly from the terminal, not as a daemon?
[14:30] <Trae> Frogzoo, I'll give that a whirl mate.  Thanks
[14:30] <bazhang> mohamed_, then mythbuntu ala odd--rationale would likely be better imo
[14:30] <erUSUL> JoeWendell: linux-restricted-modules-... seems to include them ...
[14:31] <mohamed_> thx, bazhang i can download and try it also
[14:31] <Jessica> sipsor, if i sudo it, yes... not otherwise
[14:31] <Jessica> but, even though it runs, it doesn't log in
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !register > ActionParsnip
[14:32] <Trae> Jack_Sparrow, Good Morning. and thank you :)
[14:32] <amenado> Jessica-> network related commands would require a super user priveledges..can you imagine any user that can modify the ip address on  a linux system?
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hello
[14:32] <amenado> hello Jack_Sparrow
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Trae Thanks for what, sorry, just waking up
[14:33] <biesbjerg__> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 Server Edition and am now trying to setup password-protected Samba shares... But I'm not doing so great... I followed a how-to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605) and I'm now able to see a share from my windows box, but when I try to enter the share windows says: You might not have permission to access this network ressource. Any ideas? Username / password is added to samba and corres
[14:33] <Jessica> amenado, ok...
[14:33] <biesbjerg__> user exists on my windows box...
[14:33] <Trae> Jack_Sparrow, allowing me back in the channel mate. :)  anyhoo  thanks.    Off to fix this pesky mouse problem.
[14:33] <JoeWendell> amenado, erUSUL: OK, what about "madwifi-tools" in the repos? Do I need that package?
[14:33] <dustrial> hi all, since i moved my home directory to a nother harddrive, i got following problem : $./script   [14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado goodnight for you isnt it
[14:33] <Jessica> so where to go from here?
[14:33] <eric> hi everyone. I just spent hours on the ubuntu forums, tried everything, but did not get a solution. I dist-upgraded to hardy heron yesterday and now the sound is not working anymore. My machine is running a 64 bits AMD kernel, sound card is a ATI SBx00 Azalia. If I am downgrading to an old kernel sound works again. Pulseaudio is not installed. Alsamixer starts fine. No special message in the logs. Any help very much appreciated.
[14:33] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, can somenone tell me how to prevent mplayer a whole lot of info on the screen ? which commandline parameter should I use
[14:33] <sipior> Jessica: and you've used this program before with your dns provider? odd if there is no interactive mode...
[14:33] <erUSUL> JoeWendell: i suppose but i do not have an atheros card so dunno really
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Trae Not a prob..  thanks for understanding my side as well
[14:34] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> lol
[14:34] <babis85> hi, does anyone know why my calculator drops floating point digits? I use feisty
[14:34] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> actually am morning too..
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[14:34] <erUSUL> Jessica: have you tried to reconfigure it? sudo dpkg-reconfigure ddclient ??
[14:34] <PaloAlto> hello
[14:34] <dustrial> eric =>>>>>>>>>> solution was to install  hardy on a nother partition and to copy the kernel module from the fresh install into my upgraded system !
[14:34] <JoeWendell> amenado: OK if I have madwifi, how do I know what module to "modprobe" to get my wireless set-up?
[14:35] <Jessica> ok, so now the daemon.log is giving me a different message: (yes, erusul, I just did)
[14:35] <mistermocha> hey now... does anyone know if ubuntu is turning off repos for older distros?
[14:35] <amenado> JoeWendell-> go ahead and install those madwifi tools, it wouldnt hurt
[14:35] <dustrial> hi all, since i moved my home directory to a nother harddrive, i got following problem : $./script   [14:35] <eric> dustrial : I already uninstalled all kernel modules and reinstalled them all, it should be the same...
[14:35] <erUSUL> mistermocha: yes when they reach end of live they do
[14:35] <mistermocha> my web server is still running edgy
[14:35] <Jessica> the new message is "invalid value for keyword ip"  I just looked in the conf file and see no ref to a keyword IP
[14:36] <mistermocha> erUSUL: thanks for the update...
[14:36] <dustrial> eric => i dont know, the "no sound after upgrade" was a huge issue .... there must be a lot of bug reports and forum entries
[14:36] <eric> dustrial : are you referring to a pecular kernel module, or just all modules ?
[14:36] <foldart> mistermocha: no warty here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ :)
[14:36] <dustrial> eric:  in my case it was just my personal snd_ modules
[14:36] <amenado> !wireless | JoeWendell
[14:36] <erUSUL> mistermocha: edgy should still be supported .... let me check
[14:37] <eric> dustrial, yes, I read dozens of forum entries, tried a lot of solutions... but it did not work for me. I rebuilt the initramfs, everything...
[14:37] <Jessica> erUSUL: I ran the reconfig
[14:37] <erUSUL> Jessica: still no working?
[14:37] <HiTo> How can I try to rebuild/recover a destroyed ext2 partition if testdisk find some superblocks ? any idea ?
[14:37] <JoeWendell> dustrial:That's probably because you need to give it a full path to bash in your script--maybe try #!/media/sdaX/bin/bash for example, giviing it your other HD path of course.
[14:37] <sipior> Jessica: by the way, can you try running it with: "ddclient -daemon=0 -noquiet -debug"?
[14:37] <eric> dustrial : sould you please paste your snd_modules here ? do you have the same audio card ?
[14:37] <mehmet> slm
[14:37] <erUSUL> Jessica: check /etc/ddclient.conf:
[14:37] <mehmet> türk varmı
[14:37] <kane77> how do I remove all files with a certain extension but leave one of them? (I have 1000+ pdf's and I want to merge them into one and remove them, but leave the merged file..)
[14:37] <foldart> erUSUL, mistermocha: no edgy is no longer supported
[14:38] <erUSUL> Jessica: everything ok?
[14:38] <mehmet> türk olan varmı
[14:38] <bazhang> !tr | mehmet
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !tr
[14:38] <foldart> kane77: move the one you want and then delete, then move it back
[14:38] <Jessica> erUSUL, It is not working.  i checked the conf.  what do you want me to look for?
[14:38] <jrib> kane77: hint: grep -v   does that help?
[14:38] <amenado> kane77-> may i suggest creating one big tar ball as backup also
[14:39] <codecaine> kane77 when you merge the one you want move it to a anothe directiry then rm -f *.pdg
[14:39] <codecaine> *.pdf
[14:39] <tyberion> can anyone tell me why my audacious isnt saving any settings i make... when i relogin... all plugins setting are gone:)(
[14:39] <dustrial> eric :  building on the sources of my upgraded hardy didn't work for me! so i installed completely to a other partition only to get correct modules! ... the modules had the same name... but worked ...
[14:39] <Frogzoo__> kane77: rename the one pdf, rm *pdf, move the pdf back?
[14:39] <moshe> what does mint use as mounted storage on live cd?
[14:39] <JoeWendell> dustrial: Or maybe a better option would be to set your other HD partition that has the /bin/bash on it as your root directory using "chroot", and then run the script.
[14:40] <bazhang> moshe, ask in mint channel
[14:40] <eric> dustrial : as i said, i already removed all modules and reinstalled them, it should be the same
[14:40] <kane77> codecaine, amenado jrib Frogzoo__ I guess naming the merged file to out.foo and then removing all the pdf's would do the trick, thank you
[14:40] <moshe> bazhang: It's the same as ubuntu
[14:40] <bazhang> !mint | moshe
[14:40] <dustrial> JoeWendell:  the problem is, my home directory is a hard link to another harddrive ... so maybe he does not get the /bin/bash ... or something? i dont know....
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint | moshe
[14:40] <eric> dustrial : do you have the same card (ATI SBx00 Azalia) and if yes what are these snd modules ?
[14:41] <amenado> kane77-> you can actually tar one directory and then extract what you dont need..tar is a powerful tool
[14:41] <dev_1> ola why when i use update manager only translation-en us failed, ???
[14:41] <jrib> kane77: rm *.pdf~saveme.pdf   would be a nice solution in zsh.  In bash, I was hinting at something like rm $(echo *.pdf | grep -v saveme.pdf)
[14:41] <Jessica> erUSUL: in the daemon.log I am now getting "Invalid value for keyword 'ip' = ''"  but I can find no reference to that keyword in the .conf file
[14:41] <moshe> Sparrow, do you know the answer for ubuntu?
[14:41] <dustrial> eric ... well no i got intel i will give you pastebin soon
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> moshe Please try in mint
[14:41] <sipior> Jessica: did you try running the script with the debug switch i mentioned earlier?
[14:42] <bazhang> !mintsupport | moshe
[14:42] <Jessica> sipior, yes, but i don't know how to interpet the results.
[14:42] <sipior> Jessica: perhaps you could try pastebinning them for the rest of us...
[14:42] <dustrial> eric : http://pastebin.com/m4aa169a5  BUT i am afraid, the solution i took is not logical .... the building from upgraded gibbon to hardy was broken in my case !
[14:43] <eric> thanks dustrial
[14:43] <moshe> ubottu: what is the answer for UBUNTU?
[14:43] <Jessica> sipior, pls resend the command and I'll pastebin the results
[14:43] <st1100pilot> Does anybody have a walkthrough for upgrading Firefox 2.xx to #rc1?
[14:43] <Pici> moshe: ubottu is a bot.
[14:43] <sipior> Jessica: ddclient -daemon=0 -noquiet -debug
[14:43] <moshe> bazhag: what is the answer for ubuntu? where does it store stuff?
[14:43] <Traveler> http://www.FakeMagazineCover.com - Upload photo to fake magazine cover templates
[14:44] <tdawgedogg> can someone help me with fstab heres my torrent post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5077654#post5077654
[14:44] <Traveler> http://www.SillyWebcam.com - Play with webcam online (games, take pics, effects)
[14:44] <sipior> moshe: are you taunting ubottu with Zen koans now?
[14:44] <Traveler> http://www.Is-A_Jerk.com - Random Insults/Anon Email
[14:44] <bazhang> moshe, not sure as I dont use mint
[14:44] <Traveler> http://www.VirtualHolyBible.com - Holy Bible, online version
[14:44] <acidburg> i have a problem with vga i can't see in the monitor
[14:44] <Pramod_Helios> Where do i configure the port of vstpd?
[14:44] <dustrial> eric no problem ... hope you will accomplish sound someday =)
[14:44] <moshe> bazhang: but now i ask for ubuntu!!! where does UBUNTU stores packages i install?
[14:44] <rayondeson> st1100pilot: no need to upgrade -- do a parallel installation (sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0)
[14:45] <bazhang> moshe,  could you pastebin your sources.list please?
[14:45] <st1100pilot> rayondeson: Thanks!
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> moshe Please understand...  you need to go to the people that support your distro or release
[14:45] <a7c> is anyone willing to take me through a step-by-step install of ndiswrapper? I think i'm doing it wrong.
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg What did you want to do with your fstab
[14:46] <Pramod_Helios> i have just installed vstpd...
[14:46] <clemyeats> moshe: you mean the download packages by APT?
[14:46] <Pramod_Helios> can anyone tell me how to use the application?
[14:46] <kane77> jrib, nice.. I wouldn't think of that.. (in fact I'm not good with bash).. one more question how would you print out something in a way that there will not be newline after each echo?
[14:46] <tdawgedogg> Jack_Sparrow: i just wanna make all my hard drives mount on boot
[14:46] <Dillizar> this maybe a stupid question BUT can the updates make my PC runs slower??
[14:46] <Jessica> Sipior:  DEBUG:    get_ip: using if, eth0 reports 10.0.0.250 / DEBUG: / DEBUG:     nic_zoneedit1_update -------------------
[14:46] <moshe> http://pastebin.com/m56032f05
[14:47] <a7c> dillizar: that isnt a stupid question, and it's doubtful
[14:47] <jrib> kane77: echo -n  (see  man echo)
[14:47] <codecaine> a7c its in the respirtory ubuntu will install it for you
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[14:47] <a7c> codecaine: wth is a respirtory?
[14:47] <Dillizar> a7c:  why its doubtful
[14:47] <Pramod_Helios> Does some1 use the vstpd here????
[14:47] <Pramod_Helios> Does some1 use the vsftpd here????
[14:48] <snadge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/219263 .. has anyone else experienced the issue installing hardy where storing languages seems to either freeze, or take forever to complete?
[14:48] <sipior> Jessica: the ip address of your ethernet card is a non-routable Class A. are you behind a nat router?
[14:48] <GibbaTheHutt> I do, what problem Pramod_Helios
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Pramod_Helios We see the question, please hold down the repeats
[14:48] <a7c> dillizar: it wouldn't be much of an update if it made your computer worse, would it?
[14:48] <erUSUL> Pramod_Helios: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-vsftpd-ftp-service-server/
[14:48] <Dillizar> cuz when i used Windows they did make it duns slower a7c
[14:48] <Jessica> sipior: yes
[14:48] <Pramod_Helios> yeah sorry... was correcting the "vsFtpd" :$
[14:48] <a7c> dillizar: that's windows, they're just interested in making money and protecting their money-making ability. they don't give a rats ass about performance
[14:48] <tdawgedogg> Jack_Sparrow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5077654#post5077654
[14:49] <a7c> dillizar: linux however, is user-run, so performance is all that matters
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Dillizar Actually updates could crashyour entire system if you add unsupported oddball repos to your sources list..
[14:49] <Dillizar> a7c: you are right a7c
[14:49] <sipior> Jessica: you'll need to feed ddclient the ip address of the internet side of your router, since you're trying to update your dns record to point to an address that can be routed
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg Paste what I gave you into a term and run it please
[14:49] <tdawgedogg> k
[14:50] <Dillizar> Jack_Sparrow: wow i better change my updates setings
[14:50] <sipior> Jessica: it's a bit like trying to update your dns entry to point to "127.0.0.1", and ddclient is smart enough to catch the error
[14:50] <Jessica> sipior: ddclient used to be able to determine that outside address on it's own.  my previous eth0 was 10.0.0.253, and it had no probs
[14:50] <a7c> afk
[14:50] <tdawgedogg> Jack_Sparrow: whats the exact command u want me to put in terminal?
[14:50] <sipior> Jessica: i don't know what to tell you
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit
[14:50] <eric> dustrial and everyone : hmm, very strange, linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic has only two sound kernel modules, while  linux-image-2.6.24-11-generic has tons of them. Have they migrated to another package ?
[14:51] <Jessica> ok
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Dillizar Just think twice about unsupported repos
[14:51] <xx_BuNcH_xx> hi
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello
[14:51] <xx_BuNcH_xx> olla
[14:51] <sipior> Jessica: if you have the old configuration file, trying using that
[14:52] <Jessica> sipior, i did that
[14:52] <tdawgedogg> Jack_Sparrow: ok a partition_Layout.txt appeared on the desktop now
[14:52] <erUSUL> eric: find /lib/modules/2.6.24-17-generic -name '*snd*' | wc -l --> 116
[14:52] <Dillizar> Jack_Sparrow: what bout third party softwear??
[14:52] <sipior> Jessica: also, have you changed your router configuration at all since the last time it worked?
[14:52] <mohkohn> I am trying to connect ubuntu hardy and vista in an adhoc network
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg You should have gotten a pastebin link in your term
[14:53] <mohkohn> ubuntu is the gateway wimax coming into eth0. wireless out to wlan0
[14:53] <eric> erusul : just tried on -11 version, got 231, will do on -17 version now
[14:53] <tdawgedogg> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/f6aae7cb5
[14:53] <Jessica> sipior, i changed the virual bridge to point to the new ip, but that is all
[14:53] <xx_BuNcH_xx> hi ladies
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Dillizar depends..  medibuntu etc is fine..  debian repos and debs off the web.. can be bad news..
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> xx_BuNcH_xx Did you have a support question
[14:53] <ompaul> !offtopic | xx_BuNcH_xx
[14:53] <Dillizar> i will stick to the official webing
[14:54] <syntax__> where is the sudousers file located?
[14:54] <LeeJunFan> any idea why a script in cron.monthly would have run this morning when the date on the server is correct?
[14:54] <eric> erusul and dustrial : was a pilot error, I was looking in the wrong place, sorry
[14:54] <sipior> syntax__: /etc/sudoers
[14:54] <tdawgedogg> Jack_Sparrow: if u could write me out a fstab i would be forever thankful!
[14:54] <ompaul> syntax__, in /etc/
[14:54] <mohkohn> My iwconfig and ifconfig on ubuntu are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15793/
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg Look in that file while I read through it.. I may have questions
[14:55] <tdawgedogg> jack_sparrow should i PM you?
[14:55] <a7c> If I run 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit system, are there any potential issues?
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg no need..
[14:55] <sipior> Jessica: so you're not using a natting router?
[14:55] <codecaine> a7c not at all
[14:55] <erUSUL> a7c: no
[14:55] <Kartagis> why doesn't ubuntu repos have vmware?
[14:55] <LeeJunFan> a7c: no, and youre probably better off than the issues of running 64bit.
[14:55] <mohkohn> I plan to make the static IP for the other vista machine: 192.168.0.5. What should my Default gateway be?
[14:55] <sipior> Kartagis: because it's not freely available?
[14:55] <kane77> a7c, no, unless you have >4GB of ram..
[14:56] <a7c> I'm pretty sure i have 1.9g ram...any way for me to check?
[14:56] <Jessica> sipior, i'm using a router with port forwarding capabilities.  I'm forwarding 80 to that non-routable IP behind the router
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg What distro are you running that generated that fstab?
[14:56] <erUSUL> !vmware | Kartagis vmware is not free software
[14:56] <mohkohn> Kartagis, it is proprietary software. Canonical have Parallells
[14:56] <sipior> Jessica: does your router support ddns internally? might be easier to go that route
[14:56] <LeeJunFan> a7c: open a shell and run 'free'
[14:57] <LeeJunFan> a7c: err, you're probably on windows now?
[14:57] <Kartagis> damn! i use hardy
[14:57] <tdawgedogg> jack_Sparrow: i acutally made that fstab on my own but i obviously did it wrong.....anyways im using hardy 8.04
[14:57] <a7c> leejunfan: nvm...says it right on the box, lol
[14:57] <Jessica> sipior, shame, but no it does not
[14:57] <a7c> running off to download the 32-bit version -.-
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg Look for a backup fstab in /etc/
[14:57] <bazhang> Kartagis, vmware-server is in canonical repo
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg Yo have not rebooted since you made that fstab have you
[14:58] <nk_x> I'm trying to get my laptop to connect to a wireless network using a noname pcmcia card. The card shows up on lshw, but it's not in my network device list. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[14:58] <tdawgedogg> jack_sparrow: yeah i rebooted....before there some auto generated crap from ntfs-config or something that didnt work either
[14:58] <codecaine> a7c cat /proc/meminof | grep -i memtotal
[14:58] <sipior> Jessica: another possibility is to configure the router as a bridge, i suppose
[14:58] <codecaine> so exactly how much you have
[14:59] <codecaine> show you
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg look for our original fstab
[14:59] <tdawgedogg> jack_sparrow: what would that be named?
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg fstab.something
[14:59] <tehniobium> hi all
[15:00] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: if you do "sudo lshw -C network" what is the card/chipset? Please pastebin your results.
[15:00] <sipior> Jessica: this is a cable modem or the like that we're talking about, right? or a proper router?
[15:00] <tehniobium> i just broke my windows boot...by installing xubuntu - is it possible to get help with trying to fix that, here?
[15:00] <Jessica> sipior: perhaps, but my concern is taking the config even farther from the one I knew was working.  right now, i've only changed the IPs in the router, and the webserver behind it.  It seems that the webserver config is causing the problems.
[15:01] <Steve-Cal> tehniobium: What exactly is the problem? Please describe.
[15:01] <Jessica> sipior, it's a adsl modem / router
[15:01] <ghome> test
[15:01] <tehniobium> when i choose windows XP from the GRUB menu, windows gives me the "safe mode / normal mode" screen
[15:01] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: I can't paste since I'm on another pc, but under product it says "88w8335 [Libertas]" and the vendor is Marvell
[15:01] <tehniobium> when i choose any one of them, my pc reboots
[15:02] <tdawgedogg> jack_sparrow: http://pastebin.org/39709
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> tehniobium sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[15:02] <tehniobium> ok
[15:02] <tehniobium> thankyou
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg better  one sec
[15:02] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: Well your in luck then--I know for sure that chipset works with ndiswrapper. Do you need help getting it going with ndiswrapper?
[15:02] <sipior> Jessica: you mentioned earlier that you had changed the ip address of the bridge. what did you meant by that, precisely?
[15:03] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: Do you have a link to a tutorial or something like that?
[15:03] <tdawgedogg> jack_sparrow: I think the original worked ok...but it was weird the files wouldnt automount....like if i went to my computer they were there....but they wouldnt show up on the desktop until i opened them....so if i had a fileshare up, i wouldnt be able to access these files till i double clicked the folder on startup....if that makes sense
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg For starters you need to make a mount point for each partition you want to mount  like this  sudo mkdir /media/sde1  or use a more descriptive name like /media/ntfs-music
[15:04] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: And I'd need to get the drivers somewhere first, right?
[15:04] <tdawgedogg> jack_sparrow: so basically i need to automount them
[15:04] <Jessica> sipior: I somewhat misspoke.  I had said "virtual server".  I meant "virtual bridge".  All I did was point port 80 from the old machine to the new machine
[15:04] <a7c> is ubuntu.8.04-desktop-i386.iso the 32-bit version of Ubuntu HH?
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg I understand.. see mkdir above
[15:04] <Lynet> Jessica: Does it work if you add -use=web at the ddclient command line?
[15:05] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: I guess not, but I can lead you through it if you like. And yes, you need the Windows wireless drivers, but I can help with that--you have exactly the same chipset 88w8335 as I do so I could send them to you if you like.
[15:05] <perillux> ﻿when using the "echo" command how can I add a bunch of white space or a tab?  because if I do "echo 1             2"  the output will appear as "1 2" instead of "﻿1             2"
[15:05] <bazhang> a7c, yes
[15:05] <a7c> thanks much
[15:05] <erUSUL> perillux: \t is a tab
[15:05] <Jessica> lynet: haven't tried.  i'll do so now
[15:05] <tdawgedogg> jack_sparrow: I cant mount more than one drive at a mountpoint?
[15:05] <sipior> Lynet: well spotted!
[15:05] <perillux> erUSUL: I tried that and it just showed up as "1 t 2"
[15:05] <eric> everyone : I am still stuck with my sound problem.... :-(
[15:06] <erUSUL> perillux: echo 'a\tb'
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg no
[15:06] <perillux> erSUL: ok I'll try it thanx
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> tdawgedogg one mountpoint for each partition in your list
[15:06] <tehniobium> http://pastebin.com/m25f27a40
[15:06] <Ienorand> ﻿How can you change the password for unlocking a specific wireless network to something else than root password? so that I can connect to it without using root pwd?
[15:06] <Jessica> lynet: it barfed with the warning to "waigt 5 minutes before updating"
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> tehniobium one sec
[15:06] <tehniobium> thanks
[15:06] <Pici> perillux: echo -e will enable interpretation of escape sequences
[15:06] <perillux> erUSUL: nope, my output was just "a\tb"
[15:07] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: Yes, that'd be great!
[15:07] <sipior> Jessica: Lynet: well, that's progress, surely ;-)
[15:07] <erUSUL> perillux: are you using sigle quotes? double quotes make scaping useless
[15:07] <Jessica> sipior: we'll see...
[15:07] <Jessica> *smiles*
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> tehniobium The good news is it does not look like you erased windows
[15:07] <Lynet> sipior: Jessica: Well, getting a different error message is always progress. ;-p
[15:07] <tdawgedogg> jack_sparrow: Im gonna edit the fstab to its original state or its backup im gonna PM u so i dont clutter up this room
[15:07] <perillux> Pici: erUSUL: I got it thanx.  echo -e 'a\tb'   did the trick
[15:07] <tehniobium> i figured that...can still se my windows files
[15:08] <syntax__> how do I make a user the owner of a whole folder ?
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> tehniobium I am involved in another problem, so I cant help for the moment
[15:08] <tehniobium> from inside xubuntu (i managed to do that mounting stuff right for once ;))
[15:08] <Jessica> lynet: sipior: will the results still be in the daemon.log?
[15:08] <tehniobium> ok
[15:08] <erUSUL> perillux: i allways forget the -e becouse zsh (my shell) echo does the right thing (tm)
[15:09] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: I probably don't have the ports forwarded to do DCC, let me see if I can find them myself
[15:10] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: Do you have a install CD for your wireless card? That would have the drivers on it.
[15:10] <Hobbie> :)
[15:10] <Hobbie> hi
[15:10] <Hobbie> Steve-Cal maybe
[15:10] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: I think the laptop still has a partition with WinXP on it, so they should probably be somewhere on there, right?
[15:11] <bazhang> Hobbie, do you have a support question?
[15:11] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: Hmmm, yes that's probably true, but you don't know how old they are. How about PMing me with an email address I can send it too?
[15:12] <Ward1983> what is it with ubuntu and crappy audio players???
[15:12] <Hobbie> bazhang, i see
[15:12] <Hobbie> i don't like the distro
[15:12] <Ward1983> i cant play my #@#$@#$ internetradio untill i reboot
[15:12] <Ward1983> and it happens allmost every day
[15:12] <Ward1983> im getting so sick of this
[15:12] <tonsofpcs> ?
[15:13] <Ward1983> what can be the problem?
[15:13] <Hobbie> only server version.
[15:13] <Ward1983> all players just crash
[15:13] <bazhang> Hobbie, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[15:13] <Ward1983> they work fine, then all of a sudden if i left the comp for a while they crash
[15:13] <tehniobium> ﻿i just broke my windows boot...by installing xubuntu - is it possible to get help with trying to fix that, here?
[15:13] <tehniobium> (windows files are still there...)
[15:13] <Hobbie> very stable, i think so
[15:13] <Hobbie> bazhang so sorry. thnx
[15:13] <tonsofpcs> something has alsa [or whatever you're using] locked ope
[15:13] <tonsofpcs> *open
[15:13] <tonsofpcs> do you have any flash apps running in your browser, Ward1983?
[15:13] <Ward1983> in short: i lister internetradio for a few hours, then i close totem, i get back a few hours later, i start totem, i open the internetradio pls file, totem crashes
[15:14] <Ward1983> i try other players, they crash also
[15:14] <therion_> Hi, someone know an alternative to xwinwrap? (For non-recent graphic cards)
[15:14] <Ward1983> tonsofpcs, maybe ill check i got a lot of firefox windows open
[15:14] <tonsofpcs> Ward1983: i'd try closing out firefox all together
[15:14] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: OK I sent it--you should probably have it by now.
[15:15] <eric> reminder : I dist-upgraded to hardy heron, no more sound. If I downgrade to an older kernel while keeping rest of hardy, sound is back. How could I fix that ?
[15:15] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: Oh wait...
[15:15] <Pugz> tehniobium: when it gives you the Safe Mode prompt, is there an option for "Last Known Good Config"?
[15:15] <tehniobium> yep
[15:16] <tehniobium> just restarts...:/
[15:16] <the0> hello
[15:16] <Ward1983> tonsofpcs, totem crashes on launch :@
[15:16] <the0> I am trying to install rcrack. I got rcrack from
[15:16] <Pugz> how far does it get before it restarts?
[15:16] <tehniobium> gets to the safe mode menu
[15:16] <tehniobium> then restarts 1 or 2 seconds after than
[15:16] <tehniobium> doesnt show loading screen for windows...
[15:16] <Pugz> it reboots without you even choosing an option?
[15:16] <Ward1983> tonsofpcs, when i started using ubuntu it was nice, it didnt have a lot of bugs, these days its starting to get redicoules, im starting to feel like im working on a windows box again
[15:17] <tehniobium> no sorry
[15:17] <tehniobium> when i choose
[15:17] <therion_> Hi, someone know an alternative to xwinwrap? (For non-recent graphic cards)
[15:17] <tehniobium> then 1-2 sec, then reboot
[15:17] <alex__> Hello everybody !
[15:17] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: OK that should have worked. Let me know when you get it.
[15:17] <Jessica> lynet: sipior: will the results still be in the daemon.log?
[15:17] <Steve-Cal> !hi | alex__
[15:17] <the0> I am trying to install rcrack. I got rcrack from http://www.antsight.com/zsl/rainbowcrack/ . When i did make -f makefile.linux it presented some errors (make: g++: Command not found)
[15:17] <codecain1> not sure therion xwinwrap works good fo rme
[15:18] <alex__> I can't play SAn andreas with cedega
[15:18] <Ward1983> i cant even play audio :@
[15:18] <alex__> i get a black screen and x freeze's
[15:18] <sipior> Jessica: if run with the debug switch, i would assume they would be dumped to the terminal, but i don't really know
[15:18] <codecain1> the0 you need to install g++ then sudo apt-get install g++
[15:18] <the0> thanks
[15:18] <ikonia> codecain1: why does he need to install g++  to apt-get install g++ ?
[15:19] <Lynet> Jessica: It's been way past 5 minutes. Does it work now?  If it does, add use=web in /etc/ddclient.conf and you should be good to go.
[15:19] <the0> i understand what he means
[15:19] <codecaine> ikonia because its not defaulted installed like gcc it
[15:19] <codecaine> is
[15:19] <ikonia> codecaine: gcc is not installed by default
[15:19] <codecaine> it is when I installed ubuntu
[15:19] <ikonia> codecaine: and you don't need g++ on your machine to run the command "apt-get install g++"
[15:19] <Jessica> lynet: what does "use=web" do?
[15:19] <codecaine> all version defaulted had it that I encountered
[15:20] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: nothing so far...
[15:20] <ikonia> codecaine: gcc is not installed vid default
[15:20] <lw0x15> how to kill a process in terminal
[15:20] <ikonia> s/vidvia
[15:20] <codecaine> ikonia ikonia you need g++ to compile c++ programs
[15:20] <ikonia> lw0x15: kill
[15:20] <Lynet> Jessica: It checks with an external website to find your internet-side IP
[15:20] <codecaine> and thats what hes asking
[15:20] <ikonia> codecaine: I know what it does but you telling him he needs to install g++ then do sudo apt-get install g++ is wrong
[15:20] <the0> Thanks for your help
[15:21] <the0> I had to do apt-get install g++ and then i managed to compile it
[15:21] <BorkisDrizzt> how do I get Sound Juicer to rip to mp3?
[15:21] <codecaine> yea I have rcrack also :P
[15:22] <Jessica> lynet: thanks.  I need to bounce my connection to get a new outside ip to test the thing.  I'll be back to let you know if it works.  thank you very much for the help.
[15:22] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: can you tell me the name of the inf file? Then I'll just check my windows installation for it
[15:22] <mrtimdog> I can't umount and sshfs fs as a non-root user when defined in fstab. I'm getting "mount disagrees with the fstab". Can any else do this?
[15:22] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: Oh brother the email bounced back at me because your gmail thinks I'm sending you an executable. Do you have any other email addresses? Or does anyone here know how to convert a bin to ascii temporarily?
[15:22] <Lynet> Jessica: I gfather it worked, then?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Steve-Cal tar it up
[15:23] <mechdave> codecaine, apt-get install build-essential
[15:23] <amenado> mrtimdog-> how is it defined in fstab?  user or users?
[15:23] <mrtimdog> ﻿amenado: I've tried both.
[15:23] <qba___> is there therm_adt746x in ubuntu i need i loaded to use conky cputemp :D
[15:23] <codecaine> yea either or does work though
[15:23] <yeund> hello
[15:23] <halflife08> hello folks how do i identify if a user account is added by the system or normal user. i have user id virtual who's /home directory is set to /home/ftpsite, i am not sure if the user was added by the package pure-ftpd .
[15:23] <BorkisDrizzt> how do I get Sound Juicer to rip to mp3?
[15:23] <Jessica> Lynet: it didn't report any message at all when I ran it.  I need to get a new IP and then test it
[15:24] <yeund> yes
[15:24] <codecaine> its nice ot have a c++ compiler really
[15:24] <mechdave> Hey all, does the rt2400 driver work in Hardy?
[15:24] <amenado> mrtimdog-> to forcibly umount..   fuser -ki partition
[15:24] <mrtimdog> ﻿amenado: Should it be user or users?
[15:24] <erUSUL> mechdave: i know rt2500pci does
[15:24] <sipior> BorkisDrizzt: i *believe* installing lame will include all the necessary packages to allow juicer to rip to mp3.
[15:24] <Swish> if it was pure-ftpd, shouldn't the directory vanish when you apt-get remove that package? :>"
[15:24] <BorkisDrizzt> ok
[15:24] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: OK this is better, just go here: http://drop.io/8nizsek
[15:25] <xpoint> rt2500 works with smp kernels now ?
[15:25] <Steve-Cal> Jack_Sparrow: That's what I can't believe--I tar.gz 'ed the file and Gmail still complained.
[15:25] <qba___> u have to pack it 2x
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Steve-Cal ZIp should work
[15:25] <qba___> ;]
[15:25] <mrtimdog> ﻿amenado: If the fuser a workaround to a know prob?
[15:26] <qba___> gmail detects if file is packed once
[15:26] <mrtimdog> ﻿amenado: Is even!
[15:26] <erUSUL> xpoint: ubuntu uses the new rt2x00 drivers that are smp safe (but i used legacy rt2500 on smp for a long time without issues)
[15:26] <European-African> hey, how do I change the sound that plays when the session starts?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Steve-Cal Silly gmail is only trying to protect windows users.
[15:26] <xpoint> super
[15:26] <qba___> is there therm_adt746x in ubuntu i need i loaded to use conky cputemp :D
[15:26] <revilodraw> how do i grep my ati gra[hics card?
[15:26] <Steve-Cal> Jack_Sparrow: Yes there is no end to Microsoft madness in this world unfortunately. :)
[15:27] <rayondeson> European-African: System-Preferences-Sound
[15:27] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: Did you get it OK now?
[15:27] <Ward1983> is there any decent audio player that wont crash in combination with firefox?
[15:27] <Ward1983> or is there only pure crap?
[15:27] <ikonia> Ward1983: thanks for your pointless moaning
[15:27] <qba___> ?
[15:27] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: Yeah, I got it and already installed it with ndisgtk. Seems to work!
[15:27] <amenado> mrtimdog-> fusermount is the command to unmount sshfs
[15:27] <legend2440> European-African: system>admin>login window>accessibility
[15:27] <ikonia> Ward1983: if you'd like support, I'm happy to help, if you want to blow of steam with a negative attitude, I'm not interested
[15:28] <KeKoS> hi how can I extract a *.rar file in linux? thanks
[15:28] <qba___> i have another question how to get Raid working on Msi K9A2 Platinum
[15:28] <ikonia> KeKoS: install "unrar"
[15:28] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: Excellent! Be sure to reboot and make sure it works on reboot too...
[15:28] <qba___> I have 2 drives connected to Promise controller
[15:28] <Ward1983> ikonia, its just that a reboot is not as simple for me as for many others, i run a couple of virtual PCs
[15:28] <mechdave> KeKoS, apt-get install unrar
[15:28] <Ward1983> ikonia, and lately im indeed extremely frustrated with all those bugs
[15:29] <ikonia> Ward1983: virtual PC's do not make a reboot more complex
[15:29] <Ward1983> ikonia, but offcourse i want support
[15:29] <nooga> hi, how to make that my external hdd on usb mounts automatically when plugged in?
[15:29] <ikonia> Ward1983: great, no problem, tell me about your issue
[15:29] <Ward1983> ikonia, they do if they need to be up all the time....
[15:29] <qba___> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5055303#post5055303 <<< Link to my post about this problem i still cant get it to work
[15:29] <ikonia> Ward1983: then if they need to be up all the time - host on appropriate hardware
[15:29] <mrtimdog> ﻿amenado: Thanks, but surely mount should call that indirectly via umount by looking at fstab? Basically gnomes drive mounter applet cannot unmount sshfs mount points.
[15:29] <revilodraw> what is the grep command to look at my graphics card?
[15:29] <ikonia> revilodraw: lspci | grep -i ati
[15:29] <Ward1983> ikonia, im not rich this is the only decent comp in the house that i got access to
[15:30] <Ward1983> ikonia, but the problem seems ot be firefox and mediaplayers
[15:30] <ikonia> Ward1983: I appriciate that - then it's a home solution and cannot be "up" all the time
[15:30] <revilodraw> ikonia; thank you
[15:30] <European-African> ﻿ legend2440: thanks
[15:30] <Ward1983> ikonia, at the moment totem even crashes if i jsut start it
[15:30] <ikonia> Ward1983: what media players are causing you pain and doing what
[15:30] <qba___> Ward1983: I use firefox and mediaplayers do u use alsa in all programs?
[15:30] <stippi> Is it really not possible to save files > 4 GB onto NTFS volumes (USB hard disk)?
[15:30] <BorkisDrizzt> sipior, didn't work
[15:30] <Ward1983> ikonia, every player i tested crashes, most of them after i start player, firefox is not running
[15:30] <KeKoS> thanks
[15:30] <MitchM> does ubuntu have a good document management application (for multiple access single write) ?
[15:31] <Ward1983> qba___, i think so yes, not sure though, everything is set standard
[15:31] <ikonia> Ward1983: can you give me some examples ?
[15:31] <amenado> mrtimdog-> i never looked whats behind it, what system calls it uses..
[15:31] <sipior> BorkisDrizzt: hmm...might have a look on the ubuntu forums. i know for sure that this has been discussed there.
[15:31] <Ward1983> ikonia, audacious, totem, vlc, ...
[15:31] <ikonia> !coc > Silver_
[15:31] <BorkisDrizzt> ok
[15:31] <qba___> Ward1983:  go to system>pref>sound and check thos out ;]
[15:31] <ikonia> Ward1983: what sort of crash (apologies to be pedeantic"
[15:31] <Ward1983> qba___, ok
[15:31] <revilodraw> does anyone know how to get rendering on an ati x1400 with hardy?
[15:31] <a7c> if i plug my ethernet cable into my ubuntu pc, will it automatically connect?
[15:32] <Ward1983> ikonia, it just freezes and i need to kill it
[15:32] <qba___> a7c:  yea :P
[15:32] <amenado> MitchM-> can you not use cvs or those revision management tools for those?
[15:32] <a7c> alright....let's hope this works then
[15:32] <codecaine> a7c by default yes
[15:32] <Ward1983> qba___, system -> preferences -> sound does the same haha
[15:32] <Ward1983> qba___, its just empty
[15:32] <ikonia> Ward1983: is it just sound programs or are you seeing other things
[15:33] <qba___> Ward1983:  im also new in ubuntu :)
[15:33] <Lynet> stippi: NTFS file size limit should be at 16TiB, you sure it is ntfs on that usb disk?
[15:33] <wood> waht is the usage of the "grep"
[15:33] <Ward1983> qba___, ikonia well totem is empty and i cant close it untill that littel window pops up to close it the hard way
[15:33] <revilodraw>  "glxinfo | grep rendering  direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) " how do i do that?
[15:33] <Ward1983> ikonia, just sound
[15:33] <MitchM> amenado, working with non-smart people
[15:34] <stippi> Lynet: pretty sure, yes
[15:34] <stippi> Lynet: Quick way to find out?
[15:34] <Ward1983> ikonia, qba___ i jsut check mythtv has no sound either anymore
[15:34] <ikonia> Ward1983: and it's only the sound player that freezes, not the machine
[15:35] <codecaine> wood man grep: but a summary it extract strings
[15:35] <Lynet> stippi: mount. Look for the line with the usb disk.
[15:35] <nk_x> Steve-Cal: Looks like everything works, thanks for your help!
[15:35] <codecaine> the if you just do man grep it tell you everything
[15:35] <stippi> Lynet: no, actually it says "msdos" as file system type. It's a single partition hd with 500 GB. Is that even possible with FAT?
[15:35] <Steve-Cal> nk_x: Great! Glad it's working.
[15:35] <ue> after upgrade to hardy my usb mouse (logitech vx revolution) begins to lag/spike after some time, any solutions to this problem ?
[15:36] <wood> codecaine:you give a good way!
[15:36] <Ward1983> ikonia, correct
[15:36] <ikonia> Ward1983: what sound card do you have ?
[15:36] <codecaine> msdos doesn't support that high of a parition that I remember
[15:36] <Lynet> stippi: Jeepers creepers. Windows won't allow you to create fat partistions beyond 32GB, but I'm not sure what the hard limit is.
[15:36] <Ward1983> ikonia, it allways worked perfectly fine, some stupid update did this
[15:36] <martii> guy
[15:36] <martii> here
[15:36] <martii> http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/2.22/user-guide.html
[15:36] <Ward1983> ikonia, let me check the exact name
[15:36] <martii> there is etry about NFS
[15:37] <ikonia> Ward1983: no problem
[15:37] <martii> in ubuntu then I go to Network
[15:37] <martii> i get no Unix Servers
[15:37] <Ward1983> ikonia, i cant see the name now because all the windows that do something with audio wont even work
[15:37] <wood> what is the best tool to check the rootkits of the linux?
[15:37] <martii> only windows servers
[15:37] <ikonia> Ward1983: open a terminal do "lspci" and stick it in a pastebin, lets have a look at your hardware
[15:37] <blackrabbit> wood, chkrootkit rkhunter both in the repos
[15:37] <yeund> hello
[15:37] <martii> is nautilus NFS support removed from ubuntu 8.04?
[15:37] <Lynet> stippi: Well, max volume size for fat32 is 8TiB. So yeah, is possible but not really advisable.
[15:38] <codecaine> rootkit hunter wood
[15:38] <Ward1983> ikonia, its not in there :s weird
[15:39] <ikonia> Ward1983: stick it in a pastebin, lets have a look
[15:39] <Ward1983> ikonia, never mind lol found it
[15:39] <stippi> Lynet: Thanks! So it isn't Ubuntu's fault... :-) However, I cannot burn the large file to DVD either using Brasero. Any recommendation for another burn program?
[15:39] <Ward1983> ikonia, Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[15:39] <ikonia> ahh
[15:39] <a7c> alright, I just tried directly connecting to my internet...and that failed miserably...i'm getting sick of this
[15:39] <Ward1983> ikonia, i use my optical spdif btw
 have you ever programmed some rootkits of the linux?
[15:39] <blackrabbit> wood, no
[15:39] <teknoprep> does ubuntu have the 2.6.25 kernel yet ?
[15:39] <codecaine> sudo apt-get install rkhunter ; to install it wood
[15:39] <teknoprep> i would like 802.11n support
[15:39] <Pici> teknoprep: No, and Hardy will never have it.
[15:39] <wood> ok!but the usages are anoysome
[15:39] <Lynet> stippi: Dunno, just recently switched to Ubuntu as my main desktop myself and haven't burned much yet.
[15:40] <teknoprep> Pici, what will have it ?
[15:40] <codecaine> chrootkit for checking windows systems
[15:40] <plasticmac> hi, I have a network drive mounted via sftp:
[15:40] <Pici> teknoprep: Intrepid might, I'm not sure what the plan is for that kernel yet.
[15:40] <locohost> there a special trick to getting dual head to work?
[15:40] <plasticmac> but I can't figure out how to get at it from the terminal
[15:40] <thefish> stippi, you could just use on the commandline: wodim -v /path/to/iso
[15:40] <plasticmac> I don't see the volume when I type "mount"
[15:40]  * plasticmac is a total Ubuntu newbie
[15:40] <a7c> does anyone have a lot of time to spend helping me through this step-by-step?
[15:40] <teknoprep> Ubuntu is just a distro
[15:40] <wood> chrootkit for windows? really?
[15:41] <amenado> MitchM-> umm its almost like you have to put them files in a database, multiple read, only one write
[15:41] <blackrabbit> wood, scan from read only media for better detection of suspected installed media
[15:41] <thefish> plasticmac, how do you know its mounted? mount usually wont lie
[15:41] <ikonia> Ward1983: your doing output over spdif
[15:41] <stippi> thefish: But I need something that is smart enough to create a fs that can hold files > 4 GB.
[15:41] <Ward1983> ikonia, yep i just said so
[15:41] <teknoprep> stippi, ext3 ?
[15:41] <plasticmac> thefish: well I see it in the file explorer and the context menu gives me the option to "unmount"
[15:41] <tomi> Hi. I have problem connectin to WIFI with WPA2 ecnription. Can somebody help me i tryed everything, with no success :(
[15:41] <plasticmac> maybe I'm just not seeing it
[15:41] <stippi> thefish: Brasero seemed to try to use UDF (-udf) but choked on the file.
[15:41]  * plasticmac checks again
[15:41] <ikonia> Ward1983: unusual, just having a little read on anything specific to spdif
[15:42] <plasticmac> nope, don't see it
[15:42] <thefish> stippi, ah so you want to take files and burn them?
[15:42] <ikonia> Ward1983: that cards normally pretty solid
[15:42] <plasticmac> it's in the Places sidebar in the explorer thingy
[15:42] <a7c> can someone help me set up my wireless driver? I'm pretty much gonna need step-by-step instructions
[15:42] <stippi> teknoprep: I have no idea how to create an ext3 image in Ubuntu
[15:42] <codecaine> wood yea it scans windows partitons for rootkits
[15:42] <plasticmac> and I can browse files there
[15:42] <teknoprep> tomi, what is your wireless card
[15:42] <Ward1983> ikonia, i know im pretty happy with it
[15:42] <plasticmac> so it's definitely mounted
[15:42] <stippi> thefish: yes. Just one file actually, but it is > 4 GB
[15:42] <ue> after upgrade to hardy my usb mouse (logitech vx revolution) begins to lag/spike after some time, any solutions to this problem ?
[15:42] <teknoprep> stippi, what kind of image are you trying to create ?
[15:42] <thefish> plasticmac, i think that may be a "favourite" or something, there is a cool way to do it from the terminal though: sshfs
[15:42] <tomi> teknoprep broadcom
[15:42] <plasticmac> does mount have command line options I should know about?
[15:42] <mechdave> plasticmac, it would be something like this --> mount -t sftp /device/file /mount/point
[15:42] <Ward1983> ikonia, gtg now, should you find anything please /msg it then ill reply when i get back (i dont have a lot of scrollback set)
[15:43] <amenado> stippi  typical movie iso can be greater than 4gig, i think k3b can handle those okay
[15:43] <ikonia> Ward1983: just reading, not seen anything on that behaviour before.
[15:43] <codecaine> plasticmac yes do man mount it will tell you everything
[15:43] <teknoprep> tomi, did you try "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[15:43] <plasticmac> codecaine: ok
[15:43] <codecaine> has multiple command depending on what you want to do
[15:43] <legend2440> locohost ati or nvidia?
[15:43] <thefish> plasticmac, install sshfs, then add yourself to the "fuse" group - log out and in again and then you can just (as yourself, no sudo needed) sshfs user@host:/path /local/mount/point
[15:43] <Ward1983> ikonia, ok, well should you find anything, please /msg so i can read it when i get back, and reply
[15:43] <Ward1983> :)
[15:43] <ikonia> thas fine
[15:43] <Ward1983> thanx
[15:43] <thefish> plasticmac, then it is actually mounted as well, so you can get to it with terminal and nautilus etc
[15:44] <teknoprep> hey stippi what kind of image do you want to create ?
[15:44] <tomi> teknoprep no i installed it by the package manager
[15:44] <stippi> ok, will try k3b then
[15:44] <teknoprep> tomi, well it asks alot of questions... i would suggest doing this.
[15:44] <stippi> teknoprep: Would be ok if only Linux can read the DVD, but would be nice if other OS could read it too.
[15:44] <teknoprep> tomi, "sudo apt-get remove b43-fwcutter"
[15:45] <teknoprep> tomi, "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[15:45] <codecaine> its mounted through ssh but will slow down processes on it then having it regularly mounted
[15:45] <teknoprep> stippi, linux can read dvd's
[15:45] <teknoprep> stippi, what are you trying to do ?
[15:45] <thefish> stippi, k3b is really nice, but it may be an idea to play with mkisofs as well
[15:46] <Jessica055> lynet: it didn't work.  ddclient seems to be getting the proper IP, but it seems to be having problems logging into zoneedit.  the proper IP appears in the daemon.log.  I've checked the password on zoneedit.
[15:46] <tomi> teknoprep just to tell you. i have installed the driver and i see my AP but it can't connect, it doesnt assign me ip
[15:46] <stippi> teknoprep: The DVD could hold different file systems. If it was ext3, only Linux could read it. If it was UDF, I could read it on any OS. I suppose UDF supports files > 4 GB?
[15:46] <teknoprep> tomi, i know what your problem is... do what i said
[15:47] <teknoprep> tomi, then you are going to get instructions on how to set it up... you have to run a command after you reinstall with apt-get
[15:47] <tomi> teknoprep ok i am trying that right now
[15:47] <a7c> grrr... I give up on ubuntu...this is too annoying
[15:47] <teknoprep> i think he gave up on learning
[15:47] <teknoprep> not just ubuntu
[15:48] <qba___> how to load therm_adt746x to get cpu tem reading
[15:48] <tomi> teknoprep done
[15:48] <Lynet> Jessica055: Hmm.. Apart from "doublecheck username/password" I don't really know what else to suggest.
[15:48] <teknoprep> read the output of you apt-get
[15:48] <tomi> the removal and reinstallation
[15:48] <teknoprep> what does it tell you to do
[15:48] <Creepindacellar> hello, i am trying to get 2 versions of ubuntu installed on the same system. after installing the second ubuntu grub errors out with "error 17" i have the system booted on a live cd currently but can't seem to figure out what happened on the second install that screwed my grub.
[15:48] <Jessica055> lynet:  should I be able to emulate what ddclient is trying to do using a telnet window?
[15:49] <idefix_> how do I find out my KDE version?
[15:49] <Lynet> Jessica055: I suppose so, don't really know the protocol they use.
[15:49] <locohost> dkpg -l|grep -i kde
[15:50] <locohost> sudo apt-get remove kde && sudo apt-get install gnome
[15:50] <plasticmac> thefish: okay so I installed sshfs but it's not immediately obvious how to add myself to the fuse group
[15:50] <Lynet> Jessica055: Then again, ddclient is a perl script so if you know perl you should probably be able to figure it ouy.
[15:50] <wood> do you have the problem of Input in the 8.04?
[15:50] <thefish> plasticmac, you can use the gui, or just `adduser plasticmac fuse` - assuming your username is plasticmac :)
[15:50] <Jessica055> Lynet: Idon't know perl.
[15:51] <plasticmac> hmmm gui, that's sounds good to me
[15:51] <codecaine> lol
[15:51] <thefish> plasticmac, the console is a lot quicker, and makes you look like a 1337 haX0r
[15:51] <codecaine> commandline is really quick
[15:51] <codecaine> yea
[15:51] <melch> Hey guys My laptop will not sleep with madwifi modual loaded. I black listed it but i want to know if i should also black list ath_pci and wlan_scan_sta
[15:51] <tomi> teknoprep what do you mean. Well it tells that it will be installed and it installs it , last line is Setting up b43-fwcutter (1:011-1) ...
[15:51] <tomi> teknoprep? still here?
[15:51] <plasticmac> thefish: it tends to make me look like a dunce but I suppose with time... :-)
[15:51] <MNZ> hi. How do I force synaptic to download a package even if it is broken?
[15:51] <mechdave> command line rocks harder than any GUI
[15:51] <teknoprep> tomi, "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[15:52] <qba___> how to load therm_adt746x to get cpu tem reading Plz if anyone know Send me a private message
[15:52] <teknoprep> tomi, sorry bro... wrong install lol
[15:52] <thefish> plasticmac, you will find that with extended console use you become a lot more attractive to the opposite sex as well
[15:52] <Jessica055> lynet: different error message: WARNING:  file /var/cache/ddclient/ddclient.cache, line 3: Invalid Value for keyword 'ip' = ''
[15:52] <Melkor> p
[15:52] <codecaine> plasticmac Think of it this way depending if you change to use another linux that mean is alwyas portable you might not always  have a gui for it
[15:52] <teknoprep> tomi, follow the instructions then
[15:52] <wood> my 8.04 show that "cannot find the HAL"!
[15:52] <plasticmac> thefish: yes my sex life improved immeasurably when I switched from Visual Studio to vim
[15:52] <tomi> teknoprep what instructions
[15:52] <teknoprep> tomi, "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[15:52] <teknoprep> tomi, do that
[15:52] <plasticmac> plus I can't figure out how to run the gui
[15:52] <thefish> plasticmac, exactly, now use the console - think of the ch1X0rs
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> teknoprep b43-fwcutter I think is the new version
[15:53] <teknoprep> tomi, if that doesn't work first do this.... " sudo apt-get remove --purge bcm43xx-fwcutter "
[15:53] <Lynet> Jessica055: Why don't you just pastebin ddclient.conf and any relevant log files?
[15:53] <tomi> teknoprep but i have already done sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[15:53]  * plasticmac wonders what a ch1X0r is
[15:53] <teknoprep> Jack_Sparrow, its not working for him
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !find b43
[15:53] <teknoprep> tomi, sudo apt-get remove b43-fwcutter
[15:53] <Next1> Does vmware on Hardy exist?
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> teknoprep make sure he doesnt have a 943..
[15:54] <Lynet> !vmware | Next1
[15:54] <wood> Who can help me !my 8.04 show that "cannot find the HAL"!
[15:54] <phenx> slt
[15:54] <MNZ> is there a way to fool the package system into believing a package is installed?
[15:54] <teknoprep> i hate broadcom cards
[15:54] <teknoprep> get an intel card and be done
[15:54] <codecaine> Next1 no but you can buy and it and install it, a real good program for virtual machines is virtualbox and its free :)
[15:55] <Jessica055> lynet: I'll be glad to.  pls let me know what you want posted specifically, and I'll get it all posted
[15:55] <tomi> ok removed
[15:55] <tomi> now bcm43xx-fwcutter or b34-fwcutter
[15:55] <a7c> I need help getting my broadcom -.- card working...i've tried ndiswrapper and it failed miserably, as did fwcutter...any help?
[15:55] <plasticmac> hmm, I'm already a member of fuse
[15:55] <plasticmac> probably means I have some incredibly insecure privileges setup
[15:55] <Lynet> Jessica055: /etc/ddclient.conf and whatever is in /var/log/daemons after the last change to ddclient.conf
[15:55]  * plasticmac locks and deadbolts his front door
[15:56]  * a7c kills self
[15:56] <Jessica055> lynet: ok... just a sec
[15:56] <tomi> teknoprep, Jack_Sparrow?
[15:56] <slusny> Hello everyone, could anyone help me with building sysprof ? module-assistant says "Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found", but I have installed the package )-:
[15:56] <brynster> howdy all
[15:56] <melch> does ubuntu reload blacklisted modules when it wakes from a susspend to ram?
[15:56] <thefish> plasticmac, hmm maybe you did it earlier
[15:56] <a7c> I need help getting my broadcom -.- card working...i've tried ndiswrapper and it failed miserably, as did fwcutter...any help?
[15:56] <tomi> teknoprep well my dell notebooks came with bcm , i hate it too
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> slusny Did you install the headers for your specific kernel
[15:57] <mechdave> melch, not if they are in the blacklist
[15:57] <Pugz> i spent a week trying to get a 4306 going...
[15:57] <thefish> plasticmac, now all you need to do is, on console: sshfs server:/path /local/path
[15:57] <codecaine> hey I did sudo rm -rf / *.txt now all my files are gone help little joke
[15:57] <slusny> yes : uname -r gives 2.6.24-17-generic
[15:57] <Daisuke_Ido> codecaine: you're screwed
[15:57] <codecaine> lol
[15:57] <legend2440> locohost: dual head on ati or nvidia?
[15:57] <slusny> Jack_Sparrow: yes : uname -r gives 2.6.24-17-generic
[15:57] <Pugz> made me want to club a baby seal, then I found a 4813 I think worked with ndiswrapper
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tomi all of my dells have bcm43 and all went smooth
[15:57] <Creepindacellar> >	hello, i am trying to get 2 versions of ubuntu (7.10 & 8.04) installed on the same system. after installing the second ubuntu (7.10) grub errors out with "error 17" i have the system booted on a live cd currently but can't seem to figure out what happened on the second install that screwed my grub. both installs are on there, seems only grub is confused. LLN (learning linux newbie)
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> slusny and you installed the headers for that
[15:57] <a7c> I need help getting my broadcom -.- card working...i've tried ndiswrapper and it failed miserably, as did fwcutter...any help?..
[15:57] <jonlanglois> Hi folks.  Strange X (I think) problem since upgrading to Hardy: I get a little "pause" in my display every four seconds.  Very noticable (and annoying) when moving the mouse or running something like glxgears.  But glxgears reports a frame rate that's consistent with what I got before the upgrade.
[15:58] <kombi> in server 64, why do I see dd in the process list?
[15:58] <jonlanglois> Any thoughts on how to investigate?
[15:58] <Pugz> a7c I take it you've tried everthing in the forums?
[15:58] <tomi> Jack_Sparrow well then help me with mine
[15:58] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: good advice is to use a shared /boot partition so you only have one grub and menu.lst to deal with
[15:58] <Daisuke_Ido> codecaine: please do NOT post that command in here, it is extremely dangerous to run
[15:58] <a7c> pugz: yep...everything i could possibly do
[15:58] <Creepindacellar> can i do that after the fact?
[15:58] <tomi> Jack_Sparrow as i said i can see my AP but can't connect
[15:58] <plasticmac> thefish: wicked, that worked
[15:58] <a7c> ndiswrapper is being especially annoying, as it recognises it, yet it doesnt show up in my network options
[15:58] <plasticmac> thanks
[15:58] <mechdave> codecaine, select power switch, reboot into hold hand XP mode and remove files from recycle bin ;)
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> slusny sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[15:59] <slusny> Jack_Sparrow: and I have installed package linux-headers-2.6.24-17, m-a prepare tries to install it, but it is already installed )-:
[15:59] <thefish> plasticmac, told you so :) and at the same time you became more attractive to women - *INSTANTLY* !!!1!1!!!ONE!
[15:59] <kombi> anyone else see dd when doing pstree? seems weired to me..
[15:59] <Alsar> jonlanglois: are you using kubuntu?
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tomi Can you connect by hard wire?
[15:59] <slusny> Jack_Sparrow: evertyhing is installed
[15:59] <plasticmac> thefish: will they just show up at my flat or do I have to hang out in cafes with my laptop?
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> slusny then I dont have an answer
[15:59] <tomi> do i have to set up something manually
[15:59] <jonlanglois> Alsar: No, gnome Ubuntu.
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[16:00] <codecaine> yea your right mechdave somebdoy could of tried it
[16:00] <tomi> damn
[16:00] <codecaine> meant daisuke_ido
[16:00] <codecaine> lol
[16:00] <thefish> plasticmac, i think the cafes thing is best. ymmv
[16:00] <tomi> Jack_Sparrow yes i am connected by wire to the router now
[16:00] <Pici> kombi: Looks like its doing something for kmesg, ps aux reports: /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg
[16:00] <plasticmac> thefish: I'll let you know how that works out for me
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> tomi and all the updates done
[16:00] <kombi> Pici: strange, isn't it..?
[16:00] <mechdave> codecaine, I did it once to see how long the system would stay up for whilst deleting it... it lasted 20 secs before it froze... forever
[16:01] <thefish> :)
[16:01] <slusny> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I would like to know if anyone is using the package in hardy heron
[16:01] <Pici> kombi: A little odd, but nothing to be worried about
[16:01] <tomi> yes i
[16:01] <Creepindacellar> how do i share a boot partition?
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> slusny which package
[16:01] <Pici> kombi: odd way of doing whatever its doing, that is.
[16:01] <kombi> Pici: at least we both have the same thing
[16:01] <tomi> i updated ubuntu yesterday
[16:01] <nictimju> Can anyone recommend a good CD->mp3 rip program, preferably using lame?
[16:01] <amenado> Creepindacellar-> is it big enuff?
[16:01] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, with smb or nfs?
[16:01] <ikonia> nictimju: xrip?
[16:01] <Creepindacellar> 320 gig ext3
[16:02] <fde> Anyone know the IRC channel for discussing the wiki? A page is simply utterly wrong, so I'd like to have it changed/rename it and create the right page...
[16:02] <kombi> Pici: I have just never seen dd appear as a daemon in any flavour of gnu/linux
[16:02] <slusny> Jack_Sparrow: sysprof
[16:02] <Next1> codecaine: Are you using virtualbox in Hardy?
[16:02] <amenado> mechdave-> i dont think ubuntu can boot off of smb using grub
[16:02] <Creepindacellar> not sure what smb or nfs is
[16:02] <nictimju> ikonia: let me check as this is the first time I'm CD ripping in ubuntu
[16:02] <ikonia> fde: do you not have permissions to edit it your self (or use #ubuntu-docs)
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> slusny never heard of it in here..
[16:02] <Jessica055> lynet: http://pastebin.com/d417b4200
[16:02] <Pici> fde: #ubuntu-doc
[16:02] <fde> Pici: I tried there... it made me op... so that can't be right
[16:03] <ikonia> fde: #ubuntu-doc
[16:03] <Pici> fde: I'm there now, and you arent
[16:03] <melch> hey i am having problems with the gnome-power-manager, madwifi and my black list. I placed ath_pci in me acpi-support doc but when i suspend to ram it seems to not unload. I have to mannually unload it every time i try to sleep.
[16:03] <slusny> Jack_Sparrow: hmm ok, thank you anyway
[16:03] <mechdave> amenado,  Oh we are talking booting?
[16:03] <tomi> Jack_Sparrow can you please tell me how you configured you system to be able to connect. Maby write a quick  steb by step guide?
[16:03] <TR500> does anyone know if ubuntu will update gnome by itself? is it in a non-default repository? or do you have to get it your own way?
[16:03] <en0x> hi
[16:03] <en0x> does anyone know if in ubuntu I can force to reinstall all packages?
[16:04] <ompaul> !latest | TR500
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> tomi Start with an open connection not wep wpa or any of that
[16:04] <amenado> mechdave-> i assume it was, as he was referring to /boot
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[16:04] <Idle0ne> anyone know if the new ubuntu will work on a mac pro....  I had the last version installed but it did not like the airport card so I could not use it.  I was told that it might be updated in this new version.  I just don't want to try it and waste the time if it infact has already been tested and not working.
[16:04] <Lynet> Jessica055: Does it get any better if you delete line 9?
[16:04] <leehambley> hey all --
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !find sysprof
[16:04] <mechdave> amenado, I took it as sharing like smb
[16:04] <en0x> !automate
[16:04] <leehambley> anyone know if there's a shortcut/alternative way to press the 'insert' key
[16:04] <ompaul> TR500, you should really stick with the one with your version of ubuntu and if you want to chase gnome you can look at keeping the lastest ubuntu
[16:04] <ikonia> Idle0ne: the airport should work
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> slusny sysprof does not need to be compiled it is in universe
[16:05] <Kitu> hello all
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !info sysprof
[16:05] <Jessica055> Lynet: line 9 of .conf?
[16:05] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, do you want to share the drive for use as a file store?
[16:05] <jonlanglois> So, no thoughts on my every-4-seconds X hiccup?  X also seems busier thatn pre-upgrade, I don't remember it using >20% cpu all the time.
[16:05] <Idle0ne> ikonia: thanks for the info
[16:05] <ikonia> Idle0ne: note "should"
[16:05] <Lynet> Jessica055: The use=if, if=eth0 line.
[16:05] <Jessica055> i'll try
[16:05] <Kitu> can i find an ubuntu distribution configured for nvidia geforce fx 5400 ?
[16:05] <Kitu> because i have problems ...
[16:05] <tomi> ok Jack_Sparrow i disabled the wifi sec. i will try to connect now, i'll be back
[16:06] <TR500> look at the release notes for the latest release of gnome, its not just a unnoticed change, worthy of updating i would think, im asking if ubuntu will update it by itself or not
[16:06] <ikonia> Kitu: ubuntu 8.04 comes with a driver that should work
[16:06] <Creepindacellar> not really i just want to be able to boot both 7.10 and 8.04 ikonia suggested a shared boot, i already have both installed but grub error17 comes up at boot
[16:06] <Kitu> hum
[16:06] <Kitu> ok
[16:06] <Idle0ne> ikonia: yea lol
[16:06] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: make a shared boot and re-install the lasst one you re-installed
[16:07] <Kitu> i will be back
[16:07] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: a shared boot will make life a lot easier
[16:07] <melch> how do i unload a module before i suspend to ram?
[16:07] <ikonia> melch: rmmod
[16:07] <Creepindacellar> how do i make a shared boot?
[16:07] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, which distro did you install last?
[16:07] <Jessica055> lynet: need to wait 5 minutes...
[16:07] <Creepindacellar> 7.10
[16:07] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: you need to make a /boot partition, copy the boot data from /boot on your working distro to it, then install your second distro
[16:07] <melch> ikonia, will that do it everytime? i want to make like a script
[16:07] <Marfi> which would be faster running on a ubuntu system? 2 dual core processors, or 1 quad core processors? i would think the 2 dual cores
[16:07] <ikonia> melch: ok, make a script that does rmmod
[16:08] <sipior> Marfi: faster running what?
[16:08] <tritium> melch: list it in /etc/default/acpi-support, in the appropriate place
[16:08] <Adan_Blanco> xD
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang May I pm?
[16:08] <Creepindacellar> ok but i cant boot at all, im on a live cd currently
[16:08] <Adan_Blanco> njsbdtfniupntuirojmtr
[16:08] <TR500> i would think 2 dual cores as well, if ubuntu could properly utilize them, but im no expert... Marfi
[16:08] <Adan_Blanco> rh4pdifhrjpitjr
[16:08] <Adan_Blanco> rerkmwepotr
[16:08] <Adan_Blanco> rehui5r4
[16:08] <Adan_Blanco> a
[16:08] <Adan_Blanco> a
[16:08] <FloodBot3> Adan_Blanco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <melch> tritium, i did it still doesn't unload it is ath_pci. i placed it in the MODULES spot
[16:08] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, right boot the 7.10 and run grub-install /dev/hda (I assume your primary master is /dev/hda)
[16:09] <ikonia> melch: he's getting error 17 - how is grub install going to fix that
[16:09] <kushal1> hello, just a quick question. How do I see the network usage in Ubuntu 8.04 (on Wubi)? I am using an unencrypted wireless network at home.
[16:09] <melch> tritium, i was following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro#head-688700b3e0e48847a28daba8bc557d4439a30927
[16:09] <ikonia> melch: also he's using 7.10 and 8.04 - so hda is not valid - it should be scsi disk due to libata
[16:09] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:09] <melch> ikonia, what?
[16:09] <mrtimdog> Any use Sound Blaster card of the X-Fi variety?
[16:09] <ikonia> melch: 7,10 and 8.04 use the later version of libata so there should be no disks referenced by /dev/hda
[16:09] <amenado> Creepindacellar-> what he meant was, bunch of files can be put in the /boot directory, several version of linux even..but it is the menu.lst that allows to select among the many kernels that exist in /boot
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang May I pm?
[16:10] <Creepindacellar> could it be /media/disk-1/ ??
[16:10] <melch> ikonia, how does that help my problem? are you use you want to be talking to me?
[16:10] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, are you booting off removable drive?
[16:10] <tomi> Jack_Sparrow no success neighter with open connection
[16:10] <Creepindacellar> no
[16:10] <ikonia> melch: no, your telling someone to do grub-install /dev/hda
[16:10] <tomi> i think that the card it not even trying to connect to the AP
[16:10] <Idle0ne> funny that i have a mac and want to run ubuntu over os x LOL
[16:10] <Laggz0r> how i install gfire?
[16:10] <melch> ikonia, no i am not not at all
[16:11] <Creepindacellar> its interanl 320 gig
[16:11] <ikonia> melch: correct not you, apologies
[16:11] <melch> ikonia, i am trying to get sleep working lol
[16:11] <codecaine> I like ubuntu over mac :)
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> tomi Did you ndiswrapper it of fwcutter it
[16:11] <ikonia> melch: I see that
[16:11] <melch> ikonia, no problem
[16:11] <mechdave> ikonia, I am mechdave :)
[16:11] <Idle0ne> i like em both
[16:11] <amenado> Creepindacellar-> then off course a corresponding  /lib/modules/kernel-distro has to exist for the specific linux you want to boot
[16:11] <codecaine> i do run windows inside ubuntu sometimes
[16:11] <SM00111000> lu
[16:11] <ikonia> mechdave: yes, I saw you, apologies
[16:11] <Idle0ne> just like all the visuals that compiz-fusion offers :)
[16:11] <Marfi> sipior, running in general
[16:11] <Idle0ne> os x needs those lol
[16:11] <mechdave> ikonia, Ok well it should be /dev/sda then
[16:11] <melch> mechdave, damn u i got yelled at cause of you. It's the tab button's fault
[16:12] <ikonia> mechdave: yes, however grub 17 error doesn't need a grub re-install
[16:12] <mechdave> ikonia, np
[16:12] <nacer> hi
[16:12] <ikonia> melch: wasn't tab - it was my fault
[16:12] <sipior> Marfi: that's not a question that really makes any sense
[16:12] <tomi> Jack_Sparrow well i did that via System>Administrations>hardware drivers
[16:12] <mechdave> ikonia, no? ok go ahead
[16:12] <nacer> do  you think i can install kubuntu kde4 package on a ubuntu without crash about my version ?
[16:12] <tomi> Jack_Sparrow i am new to linux that's why i ask you to tell me steb by step how you have configured your bcm cards.
[16:12] <ikonia> mechdave: I've given my suggestions, error 17 can be fixed with the device map
[16:12] <mohkohn> I am trying to set up internet connection sharing with Firestarter. Why would my "Enable DHCP for local network" be greyed out?
[16:13] <melch> So guys why would my blacklisted modules not unload when i suspend to ram. The module in question is ath_pci
[16:13] <mechdave> ikonia, Oh ok, maybe I need to do some more doc reading on that one :)
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tomi I am about to leave for work and I dont want to drop you in the middle of that
[16:13] <codecaine> blacklisted modules will not load at all
[16:13] <Marfi> sipior, ok, let me try to re word it...say given 2 computers, identical in the way that the only difference is 1 has 2 dual cores, the other has 1 quad core, which would run processes faster, games faster, etc?
[16:13] <mechdave> ikonia, would you like to help Creepindacellar while I do some reading then?
[16:14] <tomi> Jack_Sparrow ok no problem maby later if you are here you can help me ,
[16:14] <ikonia> mechdave: already given the suggestion
[16:14] <yacc> Can somebody explain this: (100MB resident size????) 12132 ?        S      2:14   1177    26 162565 105508  5.1 /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon
[16:14] <leehambley> how does one disable the insert key ?
[16:14] <leehambley> or toggle overwrite
[16:14] <mechdave> ikonia, roger
[16:14] <sipior> Marfi: it depends upon how the games are written. you can't talk about speed without involving the application itself.
[16:14] <Pici> leehambley: press insert
[16:14] <codecaine> :)
[16:14] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, maybe we should both google grub error 17 to find the problem
[16:15] <leehambley> Pici, thank you for that :) i'm on 8.04, on an apple slm keyboard
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici May I pm..
[16:15] <leehambley> pressed something (typo?) and now oerwrite is on
[16:15] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: always
[16:15] <Creepindacellar> it says grub doesnt recognize the volume among other things. but i think it is the menu.lst that is wrong or pointing to the wrong one
[16:16] <sipior> Marfi: generally, an application that is not written to take advantage of this hardware will see *no difference* run on a dual-core or quad-core system. it does allow you to run more of those processes simultaneously, which can also be useful.
[16:16] <codecaine> Creepindacellar you can download supergrub and it does everything for you
[16:16] <Creepindacellar> really? i have some laundry to do also woo hoo
[16:16] <ikonia> mechdave: Creepindacellar http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html#Stage2-errors
[16:16] <Marfi> sipior, i know that. but which would be able to run more processes efficiently, is what im asking i guess. two dual core processors, or one quad core?
[16:16] <kevix> can anyone help? I have ati radeon rv250 (9000) I have done a clean install from text based installer. The open source ati drivers have been installed. The problem is that when i boot up xorg tells me it canno detect my graphics card and then i get asked to configure.
[16:17] <ikonia> codecaine: he doesn't need "super grub"
[16:17] <mechdave> ikonia, cheers
[16:17] <ferris> i need a command to reconfigure my video .... http://pastebin.org/39738
[16:17] <sipior> Marfi: i doubt it would make very much difference
[16:17] <ikonia> mechdave: basiclly - wrong partition, which he can fix at the same time as making a seperate /boot partition
[16:17] <codecaine> ikonia but if he having trouble its a quick and easily solution
[16:17] <kevix> Picking any of the common sense driver options under the configuration and testing reports back an error
[16:17] <slappy> How can I change permanantly the umask for a user or a group?
[16:17] <ikonia> codecaine: nope - auto grub install stuff is not recommeneded in any form, especially for dual linux boots
[16:18] <codecaine> hmm never had a problem but if you say so :)
[16:18] <kevix> Im confused as to how ubuntu has obvioulsy detected the card correctly to have installed the appropriate drivers, but then on boot cant work out what to do
[16:18] <ikonia> codecaine: "you" have never had a problem
[16:18] <Creepindacellar> ikonia, i saw that, but they are both ubuntu (ext3) filesystems
[16:18] <codecaine> thats why I said if you say so
[16:18] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: that doesn't make a difference, you'll find it will be because you have two ubuntu installs
[16:18] <ferris> i have ran already sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to no avail
[16:19] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: one will think its the primary and reference everything as the primary, when actually - its the second instal
[16:19] <Marfi> does ubuntu support 2 quad core? making a total of 8 cores? if yes, how many does it support up to?
[16:19] <Creepindacellar>  can i fix it or do i need to start over?
[16:19] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: this is the reas I suggested a shared /boot partition
[16:19] <ikonia> Marfi: 64 cores per smp kernel I think
[16:19] <Marfi> ty ty
[16:19] <ikonia> Marfi: you can go beyond that with patches
[16:19] <ferris> the refresh is set at 60 and needs to be up to a minimum of 80
[16:19] <melch> anyone willing to help me with the blacklist problem?
[16:20] <Marfi> alright, thank ya
[16:20] <Creepindacellar> im with you ikonia, but im so close to having it done i feel
[16:20] <mechdave> ikonia, so all he needs to do is edit the menu.lst with the correct partition number and it will all work
[16:20] <erUSUL> Marfi: grep NR_CPUS /boot/config-2.6.24-17-generic
[16:21] <amenado> mechdave-> in addition, he has to make sure the device.map is correspondingly correct too
[16:21] <darmi> 8.04 64bit is really buggy :(
[16:21] <ikonia> mechdave: not quite remember, thereare 2 grub installs - only one real grub install, so for example, the last OS installed will put grub on the MBR and that grub install will reference the details from THAT menu.lst, but the first ubuntu install also has a menu.lst on it's boot partition
[16:21] <ikonia> darmi: in your opinioon
[16:21] <darmi> ikonia: no really
[16:21] <erUSUL> darmi: your opinion ;P
[16:21] <sipior> who elses would it be?
[16:22] <darmi> vmware doesn't work
[16:22] <jonlanglois> Okay, so a different Hardy question...my IDE drives were recognized as /dev/hda and /dev/hdb in Feisty, but are now /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  Is that a bug, or intended behavior?
[16:22] <darmi> and multiple things aren't stable
[16:22] <amenado> darmi there is  #vmware channel i believe
[16:22] <ikonia> darmi: I could say the exact oposite
[16:22] <darmi> I wish I'd stay with 7.10
[16:22] <codecaine> 64bit os tend to be that way right now
[16:22] <sipior> jonlanglois: that's intentional
[16:22] <ikonia> darmi: do you want help with anything - or just vent
[16:22] <ikonia> codecaine: nonsense
[16:23] <darmi> just vent
[16:23] <darmi> ing
[16:23] <ikonia> darmi: this isn't the place then
[16:23] <darmi> ouch
[16:23] <WizardFait> Hello.
[16:23] <jonlanglois> I always thought hdX meant IDE drive, and sdX meant scsi.
[16:23] <codecaine> manufactures etc fail to port all hardware to 64 bit drivers etc
[16:23] <luckz> stippi: do you have any idea?
[16:23]  * darmi wiping his tears off
[16:23] <codecaine> 32 bit is more supported over 64 bit you cannot deny that ikonia
[16:23] <ikonia> codecaine: considering the drivers are all in the kernel, bar a few that comments doesn't make much sense
[16:23] <ikonia> jonlanglois: thats the old libata branch, thats how it used to be
[16:23] <WizardFait> So, wireless... I have a broadcom 54G card in my laptop... Does EVERYONE have wireless issues with these cards?
[16:24] <codecaine> not on windows ikonia
[16:24] <ikonia> codecaine: windows isn't "64bit os's in general"
[16:24] <codecaine> I said 64 bit os
[16:24] <WizardFait> In my past... I've gotten it to work, but then it'll randomly disconnect, then reconnect...
[16:24] <luckz> cousin_luigi: I fear this is the wrong channel for that kind of question, why don't you try the one for your distribution?
[16:24] <chuy_max> jonlanglois, every disk now is recognized as sd?, there was a reason for it
[16:24] <WizardFait> But that's only if I'm lucky.
[16:24] <codecaine> vista 64bit
[16:24] <amenado> WizardFait-> umm..broadcom bcm43xx is infamous
[16:24] <codecaine> is not a os?
[16:24] <jonlanglois> okay, my second drive wasn't mounting right...I guess my OS partition worked because I had the UUID in fstab.
[16:24] <ikonia> codecaine: and windows isn't "64bit os's" it's one
[16:24] <WizardFait> infamous as...? Being horrible with linux? ;P
[16:24] <codecaine> they have mutiliple vista 64 bits
[16:24] <codecaine> home business etc
[16:25] <codecaine> os's
[16:25] <luckz> steve-cal: I'm sure that helps, thanks
[16:25] <WizardFait> Or does bcm43xx actually make it work?
[16:25] <ikonia> codecaine: please don't be petty give out solid advice - or don't say anything
[16:25] <luckz> dustrial: thanks to you too
[16:25] <sipior> !offtopic | ikonia
[16:25] <codecaine> that is solid theres not different versions of 64 bit vistas os?
[16:25] <amenado> WizardFait-> just harder to make work...thats all
[16:25] <ikonia> codecaine: this isn't a vista support channel
[16:25] <chuy_max> jonlanglois, so it works now?
[16:26] <erUSUL> !info b43-fwcutter | WizardFait
[16:26] <codecaine> I was talking about operating systems in gerneal not just ubuntu
[16:26] <jonlanglois> Yes, I remounted it as /dev/sdb1
[16:26] <sipior> codecaine: please, give it a rest
[16:26] <WizardFait> Okay, so... If I use the instructions (On 8.04) to go to linuxwireless.org (or w/e it was) and it does what I described, what do I do to fix it?
[16:26] <ikonia> codecaine: exactly ! which is why your giving out bad advice 64bit in general is wrong to advice people.
[16:26] <jonlanglois> I wonder if my cd/dvd drives work...they're in fstab as /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd
[16:26] <WizardFait> I've gotten it to work in the past, but then it is so shoddy.
[16:26] <WizardFait> And HORRIBLE speeds!
[16:26] <WizardFait> and I've found, if I use iwconfig to up the bit-rate, the connection becomes impossibly unstable.
[16:27] <mechdave> ikonia, I understand now. Creepindacellar needs to make the real grub reference the correct partitions
[16:27] <ikonia> mechdave: thats it
[16:27] <annie_g> Is this the right command line for restricted files - " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" ? ? ?
[16:27] <ikonia> mechdave: hence why I picked up grub-install comments from you
[16:27] <erUSUL> annie_g: yep
[16:27] <alan_m> annie_g, yes
[16:27] <darmi> what about the nvidia driver in 8.04 is there an upgraded one
[16:27] <fde> codecaine: We try not to compare, Ubuntu is very different to other systems, discussing them in a comparative way isn't useful for support.
[16:27] <annie_g> thank you
[16:27] <Creepindacellar> mechdave, i think thats what im hoping for
[16:27] <boki_boy> laksm
[16:27] <boki_boy> mka, l
[16:27] <mechdave> ikonia, yeah it is much easier just to fix it :)
[16:28] <boki_boy> k,msjmn kj a
[16:28] <ikonia> mechdave: good man, you clicked on to it
[16:28] <alan_m> and, this isnt the #ubuntu-offtopic room, its not meant for general "chit chat" right fde?
[16:28] <mechdave> ikonia, thanks :)
[16:28] <erUSUL> darmi: the driver on 8.04 is the latst stable one from nvidia
[16:28] <boki_boy> olak nmahu
[16:28] <fde> alan_m: correct
[16:28] <codecaine> lol
[16:28] <ikonia> mechdave: hence why you also see the benifits of shared /boot
[16:28] <sipior> boki_boy: what's that? timmy's fallen down a well?
[16:28] <codecaine> lets just stick to support
[16:28] <WizardFait> Anyone have a solution?
[16:28] <alan_m> codecaine, great idea :D
[16:28] <revilodraw> i have a very minor gripe - my wireless is wroking perfectly, but the little green lcd light isnt alive (and it's not broken). any ideas?
[16:29] <boki_boy> makiszvbta  nyua
[16:29] <mechdave> well you only need 1 /boot and only 1 swap as you are only running 1 distro at a time
[16:29] <WizardFait> Revilodraw: Hopefully, for you, it's not like my laptop, where it's software-driven. I found if I disabled my wireless card in windows, ubuntu would never turn the light on...
[16:29] <Creepindacellar> currently have 2 swaps looks really messy
[16:29] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: only need one swap
[16:29] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: same as one /boot
[16:29] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, can you pastebin both menu.lst files please
[16:30] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, do you know when there will be a version of the google toolbar compatible with firefox 3?
[16:30] <ikonia> Creepindacellar: share some stuff
[16:30] <sa125> hello - anyone knows why my screensaver works sometimes and sometimes it wont (hardy)?
[16:30] <sipior> Cheesypieces: why would we know that?
[16:30] <Creepindacellar> talking on a dif system
[16:30] <Cheesypieces> sipior: no idea, just thought i'd ask
[16:30]  * leehambley seconds jonlanglois' misinformation
[16:30] <revilodraw> WizardFait: hmm i dont dual boot
[16:30] <darmi> sa125: what does it do?
[16:30] <Creepindacellar> on windoze currently (shudder)
[16:30] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, oh ok no worries
[16:30] <sipior> Cheesypieces: i would imagine it will be out before the proper ff3 release
[16:31] <WizardFait> revilodraw: Was the wireless light enabled BEFORE you installed ubuntu?
[16:31] <mechdave> Creepindacellar, hang on shall write a quick and dirty HOWTO
[16:31] <Creepindacellar> awesome!!!
[16:31] <Cheesypieces> sipior: thats what i thought, but the proper ff3 is out now, and there's still no compatible version
[16:31] <revilodraw> WizardFait: ive had ubuntu for ages and it showed, it just stopped showing since hardy..
[16:31] <WizardFait> Ah.
[16:31] <boki_boy> majia jmioa,
[16:31] <jonlanglois> leehambley: are you saying I'm spreading misinformation?  or that you're surprised at the change like me.
[16:31] <Cheesypieces> sipior: but never mind, i'm sure there'll be one soon
[16:31] <sa125> darmi: when I leave my computer, sometimes it works and others the screen remains unchanged for hours (wont even blank)
[16:31] <sipior> Cheesypieces: i thought the release had yet to be scheduled?
[16:31] <WizardFait> revilodraw: Then I don't know. Sorry. :D
[16:32] <fde> Cheesypieces: Umm, the release candidate is not the official firefox release.
[16:32] <alan_m> sipior, its in backports as a RC
[16:32] <sipior> alan_m: yeah, but that's not the actual release
[16:32] <Cheesypieces> fde: my version of ff just says 3.0, no mention of it being a release candidate, although that would make sense
[16:32] <revilodraw> WizardFait: lol it's not a big deal
[16:33] <alan_m> sipior, i know ;D
[16:33] <WizardFait> revilodraw: Yeah... I'm here for some wireless help as well.
[16:33] <WizardFait> I have a broadcom 54G card, I can get it to work... Kind of... If I use the linuxwireless.org instructions.
[16:33] <fde> Cheesypieces: aptitude show firefox-3.0 | grep Version
[16:33] <WizardFait> But then my speed is horrible, and the connection likes to just drop...
[16:34] <WizardFait> and if I boost the speed, it gets more unreliable.
[16:34] <WizardFait> Oh, and it REALLY doesn't like wep keys...
[16:34] <WizardFait> It'll make me reconnect at least 3 times before it stays connected.
[16:34] <squidly> does anyone know what pachakge has NET::SSH:Perl in it?
[16:34] <WizardFait> Then once it does, as soon as it drops the connection... It asks me for the key, AGAIN!
[16:34] <revilodraw> WizardFait: hmmm reinstall the drivers?
[16:35] <WizardFait> I've tried... I've even reinstalled ubuntu... A few times... Same result every time.
[16:35] <Cheesypieces> fde: yep, you're right, my mistake - at least it makes my toolbar problem make sense lol
[16:35] <darsa> hey.......
[16:35] <sipior> WizardFait: i'm not really sure there is a viable solution at present. well, aside from calling broadcom and complaining about their "support" for open-source drivers
[16:35] <erUSUL> squidly: apt-cache search perl ssh --> libnet-ssh-perl
[16:35] <WizardFait> Lol.
[16:35] <WizardFait> Yeah.. That always works. :D
[16:35] <WizardFait> Oh that reminds me...
[16:35] <WizardFait> I've even tried ndiswrapper... Failed horribly...
[16:36] <WizardFait> Actually RUINED all use of the card until I wiped Ubuntu and started again.
[16:36] <squidly> erUSUL: Can't locate Net/SSH/Perl.pm that is what I get when I have that package installed
[16:36] <amenado> WizardFait-> there are no guarantees radios can always have good receptions.. :)
[16:36] <amenado> could be the sunspot
[16:36] <WizardFait> Right, but if you're literally 1 foot away from the reciever of an access point that has enough power, I can go down the street 3 blocks and get a signal... I doubt that's the issue. :D
[16:37] <justdave> is there a way to stop the Gnome startup sound from playing every time I plug in USB speakers without stopping it from playing when I log in?
[16:37] <justdave> I have a computer on a KVM, and there's USB sound hooked up on the KVM
[16:37] <darsa> ngmg opo??
[16:37] <justdave> every time I switch the KVM over to the Ubuntu box the startup sound plays again
[16:37] <amenado> WizardFait-> radio transmitter can also saturate a receiver..so being so closed is not necessarily the answer
[16:37] <sipior> justdave: i don't believe so
[16:37] <alan_m> justdave, not that im aware of.
[16:38] <WizardFait> Ah, but the point I'm getting at, is it's not a distance issue... I've tried many ranges, and the issue occurs all the same.
[16:38] <WizardFait> Yet, these exact same ranges work FLAWLESSLY in windows.
[16:38] <revilodraw> when i enable desktop effects i get a blank skin coloured screen, exit takes me back to normal?
[16:38] <runjorel> anyone familiar with setting up a pptp server?
[16:38] <amenado> WizardFait-> id get me another nic card like 100mbps ethernet  :P
[16:38] <WizardFait> I have that.
[16:38] <WizardFait> Built in...
[16:38] <WizardFait> And it works great.
[16:38] <ompaul> WizardFait, so tell your cards makers to tell the linux kernel developers the exact specs of the card - and don't blame the devs for it ;-)
[16:39] <WizardFait> Just it'd be nice to not have to plug in all the time.
[16:39] <ompaul> !broadcom | WizardFait
[16:39] <WizardFait> I'm not blaming anyone. :D Just asking for some help with it.
[16:39] <erUSUL> WizardFait: well broadcom is hostile toward free software and as a result its hardware is undersupported fact of live
[16:39] <melch> how do i add nothing to my path
[16:39] <amenado> melch do nothing
[16:40] <WizardFait> O.o here's a question then...
[16:40] <WizardFait> Is there any *cheap* wireless mini-pci card (For laptops) that's wireless that works flawlessly with ubuntu?
[16:40] <ratpoison> hello! hardy user. I have a broken dependency problem concerning language support. Pasting message from "Language support" http://paste.ubuntu.com/15806/
[16:40] <melch> amee2k, what do u mean?
[16:40] <WizardFait> So I could just swap the mini-pci card out with one that works?
[16:40] <melch> amenado, what do u mean
[16:41] <amenado> melch do nothing to add nothing
[16:41] <ratpoison> WizardFait, I think the ones with the Atheros chipset work pretty much flawlessy... correct me if I'm wrong guys. Google PCMCIA atheros
[16:41] <melch> amenado, but i need to add this folder to my path so i can excute the comand
[16:41] <sipior> ratpoison: have you tried running apt-get with the -f switch?
[16:41] <WizardFait> No, I don't want pcmcia...
[16:41] <Slart> melch: this folder isn't nothing
[16:41] <WizardFait> I'm asking about mini-pci.
[16:41] <WizardFait> Internal, for laptops...
[16:41] <melch> Slart, what?
[16:42] <ratpoison> sipior, yesterday I did, no luck. I will do it now, since I had some updates totday
[16:42] <erUSUL> ratpoison: atheres is another problematic brand ... intel; ralink
[16:42] <runjorel> Anyone familiar with pptp?
[16:42] <sipior> melch: export PATH = ${PATH}:/new/path/to/your/folder
[16:42] <Slart> melch: "17:39 < melch> how do i add nothing to my path".. " melch> amenado, but i need to add this folder to my path so i can excute the comand".. this folder isn't the same as nothing, afaik
[16:42] <ratpoison> sipior, Doesn't fix anything...
[16:42] <darmi> runjorel:  what's up
[16:43] <ratpoison> let me find the problematic package from synaptic, wait for another paste with what I did
[16:43] <Slart> melch: unless you have a folder named "nothing"... but nevermind.. what are you trying to do?
[16:43] <melch> sipior what is i edit my /etc/enviroment. will that add it for all session
[16:43] <runjorel> darmi: I just did a fresh install of ubuntu, setup pptpd and everything.  When a Windows client connects it just stays at "Verifying Username and Password" and never connects
[16:44] <Catslacks> Can anyone help me get my wireless working? I installed madwifi but it did nothing. My card is a D-Link DWA-542. The chipset is AR5416, I think.
[16:44] <melch> Slart, i have a folder located at ~/melch/maple12/bin i want to add to my path perminitly so ican run maple whenever i want
[16:44] <runjorel> darmi: im not sure where im going wrong
[16:44] <sipior> melch: you can stick that in .bashrc
[16:44] <WizardFait> Hey all, I'll brb.
[16:44] <Slart> melch: I think the linux way is to create a symlink in /usr/local/bin or something like that
[16:44] <melch> sipior, i changed my /etc/enviormnet to PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:~/home/mitch/maple12/bin"
[16:44] <darmi> runjorel: hmmm one sec lemme see
[16:45] <Slart> melch: ln -s to create symlinks
[16:45] <runjorel> darmi: thanks
[16:45] <gordonjcp> melch: that should work too
[16:45] <melch> sipior, i changed my /etc/enviorment to PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:~/home/mitch/maple12/bin" will that work
[16:45] <melch> gordonjcp, ok thanks
[16:45] <amenado> melch-> try
[16:45] <sipior> melch: you don't want that tilde in there, do you?
[16:45] <gordonjcp> sipior: good point ;-)
[16:45] <_zo> how do I get suspend and hibernate to work on my laptop, anyone have some links for me to follow?
[16:45] <amenado> melch you may have to log off first for it to take effect
[16:45] <melch> amenado, ok thanks
[16:45] <albech> when inserting some DVD movies im getting a lot of:  end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector xxxxx  errors is that cause of a corrupted dvd drive or dvd media?
[16:46] <albech> the media play just fine in my normal dvd player
[16:46] <_zo> albech: do you have decss?
[16:46] <albech> decss?
[16:46] <Slart> !dvd
[16:46] <_zo> albech: you need to download the DVD decryption software to be able to play it. see the link slart just put up
[16:47] <Luhta> I have a problem I'm using ALSA and my sound works in X, however when I launch winecfg the device is not listed under ALSA, I do have a custom .asoundrc but it has been verified to work in the past, does anyone have any suggestions?
[16:47] <albech> _zo: but some of them play fine.. is that normal?
[16:47] <darmi> runjorel: u still there
[16:47] <_zo> albech: not sure, depends on the type of DVD
[16:47] <runjorel> yes
[16:47] <albech> _zo: thanks
[16:47] <krammer_> need advice in finding the file for my display settings, the crystal brite is to bright
[16:47] <jcn> hello, I'm newbie on ubuntu. I got a Nvidia9600GT, I typed  jcn@machineJCN:~$ sudo -i
[16:47] <jcn> root@machineJCN:~# apt-get install envyng-gtk on terminal and it says It's installed, HOW DO I LAUNCH ENVY ?
[16:48] <darmi> runjorel: did u confirm that pptp is running with netstat -untap |grep pptp
[16:48] <darmi> ?
[16:48] <Luhta> jcn it should be something like envyng-gtk or envyng_gtk
[16:48] <Pugz> krammer, you can't change the settings on the monitor?
[16:48] <runjorel> darmi: im sure it is, but let me double check
[16:48] <jcn> yes but I did not found in application
[16:48] <legend2440> jcn: open applications>system tools>envyng
[16:49] <krammer_> i would like to through a editor
[16:49] <krammer_> gedit
[16:49] <krammer_> i forgot how to do this
[16:49] <Luhta> jcn try /usr/bin/envyng-gtk
[16:49] <runjorel> darmi: it is running
[16:49] <ratpoison> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15809/
[16:49] <bSON> does somebody know how to use rpm in debian/ubuntu? i need to test sth with it
[16:49] <reese> hi! when I try to upgrade from the alternate cd, it gives me an "Error authenticating some packages", and it lists a lot of packages. I'm on a 7.10
[16:49] <erUSUL> Pugz: gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[16:49] <runjorel> darmi:  I actually got it to connect once.  The connection worked, but only lasted for about 2 minutes.  Since then it hasnt worked again
[16:50] <_zo> !alien
[16:50] <darmi> runjorel: ping to test connectivity
[16:50] <ratpoison> bSON, try package alien
[16:50] <Luhta> ah so that's what alien is
[16:50] <Luhta> I have a problem I'm using ALSA and my sound works in X, however when I launch winecfg the device is not listed under ALSA, I do have a custom .asoundrc but it has been verified to work in the past, does anyone have any suggestions?
[16:51] <bSON> i don't need to really install a package.. i like to write sth on top of librpm
[16:51] <runjorel> darmi: I do get a response when I ping pptp server from inside the network.
[16:51] <bSON> thus i need rpm itself
[16:51] <sipior> ratpoison: well, it looks like it's unblocked, but i'm not sure why it wants to remove openoffice. let it do it, and then reinstall :-)
[16:51] <runjorel> darmi: and I get a response when I ping our external ip from a computer outside of our network
[16:51] <ratpoison> sipior, k, I'll get back to you with results
[16:51] <darmi> runjorel: what does yur windows error message
[16:51] <erUSUL> bSON: you are better doing this knd of development on a red hat/fedora box
[16:51] <darmi> say
[16:51] <sipior> bSON: librpm is in the repositories
[16:52] <_zo> !info librmp
[16:52] <_zo> !info librpm
[16:52] <ratpoison> sipior, yesterday though, installing the one meant uninstalling the other. for some reason I can't have both
[16:52] <_zo> !info rpm
[16:52] <runjorel> darmi: hold on let me log into another machine and find out...I really appreciate this btw
[16:52] <sipior> ratpoison: have you done an apt-get update recently?
[16:52] <darmi> runjorel: np
[16:52] <snarkster> howdy all
[16:52] <bSON> sipior: i know, but it doesn't seem to be able to open the rpm database, even if i do "rpm --initdb --dbpath /var/rpm"
[16:53] <ratpoison> sipior, yup, I ran update manager when I booted the machine about half an hour ago
[16:53] <snarkster> how do i stop numlock from being active when i start my laptop?
[16:53] <xtremox> ubuntu rockz!
[16:53] <snarkster> Nunmlock isnt on when Im logging in but after that its on
[16:53] <Slart> snarkster: it's usually a BIOS switch.. but laptops are weird sometimes..
[16:53] <runjorel> darmi: Error 628 - The connection was terminated by the remote computer before it could be completed
[16:53] <tobago> hi does somebody know how to mask special character for sms transmission? i found a to send sms for free (by "hacking" a webpage for sms transmission). but the special character are sent as "##". or maybe a link to a list of them?
[16:54] <runjorel> darmi: thats it.
[16:54] <darmi> runjorel: look that error message online.... ok
[16:54] <_zo> !numlock > snarkster
[16:54] <jcn> I'm now on Adept manager and found envyng for my Nvidia, I just can request an update (that I ve done) could I install it after that ?
[16:54] <snarkster> Slart: well I can log in and its not on, but when the desktop appears numlock is on
[16:54] <Luhta> tobago, I thought that sending sms was already free on the web? or did that change
[16:54] <sportman1280> hello.  I have gpg keys that i have used in the pasted.  I have them on a USB drive.  I nuked the profile, and restored my keys.  They load correctly and everything.  howevr when i try to sign a package, I am met with the following message:   gpg: skipped "Pete Deremer <jderemer@ubuntu.csee.wvu.edu>": secret key not available                  This is because of the @ubuntu.csee.wvu.edu ... but im not sure WHY theres an @ubuntu in front of the .cs
[16:54] <sportman1280> ee.wvu.edu...
[16:54] <Slart> snarkster: ah.. sounds like something is changing it then.. hmm
[16:54] <runjorel> darmi: Yeah I have already, but didnt anything meaty
[16:55] <darmi> runjorel: next make sure yur firewall isn't blocking yur vpn
[16:55]  * TopoMorto is going to cook a very cool dish "Lasagne" :))
[16:56] <Slart> snarkster: there seems to be something called "kernels internal numlock state".. it has to be configurable somehow
[16:56] <sipior> sportman1280: ubuntu is the default hostname if you don't choose one at the time of install. what's your machine's current hostname
[16:56] <sharat> hello every1
[16:56] <sharat> so hows it been
[16:56] <Blod> join #kubuntu
[16:56] <runjorel> darmi: Its not.  Ports are open. PPTP Passthrough enabled, and when I do block it, the vpn connection doesnt say anything about "Verifying Username and password".  It immediately halts the connection
[16:56] <sportman1280> sipior: @player
[16:57] <_zo> !hi | sharat
[16:57] <ratpoison> sipior, It looks like it's the same as yesterday, similar circular dependency problem sudo apt-get install openoffice.org tries to uninstall language-translations-el
[16:57] <sharat> thank you
[16:57] <sportman1280> sipior:  it is changing my DEBEMAIL from jderemer@csee.wvu.edu to jderemer@ubuntu.csee.wvu.edu
[16:57] <sharat> any1 installed NS2 on ubuntu?
[16:57] <ratpoison> I'm uninstalling language support completely and rebooting, then I'll try to install from scratch both open office and language support
[16:57] <Slart> snarkster: start gconf-editor from a terminal and search for numlock.. there are a couple of keys on my system mentioning numlock
[16:57] <sipior> sportman1280: gpg will allow you to specify the key you want to use for signing
[16:57] <gangsterlicious> i'm having problems creating centos-5 amd64 dist as Xen domU. passwd is set to "1" but during xen-create-image install it does not ask me to input root passwd. i can boot into the new centos-5 domU but cannot log in
[16:58] <_zo> !anyone
[16:58] <sharat> hello
[16:58] <sipior> ratpoison: ick. have fun with that. :-)
[16:58] <sharat> NS2
[16:58] <sharat> ?
[16:58] <_zo> !anyone > sharat
[16:58] <sharat> NS2
[16:58] <tobago> Luhta, if you want to have advertisements in the sms? than it's free. but i don't want advertisement in my sms.
[16:58] <sharat> has any1 installed NS2 on Ubuntu
[16:58] <sharat> i need help
[16:58] <WizardFait> NS2?
[16:58] <sharat> yes
[16:58] <darmi> runjorel: I use debian with pptp
[16:59] <WizardFait> What is that? :P
[16:59] <sharat> Network Simulator
[16:59] <DRebellion> sharat, what is ns2?
[16:59] <WizardFait> Ah.
[16:59] <Luhta> tobago, no I mean I thought that it was free, as in there was a client at one point in time I had on my computer, unless you're trying to do it strictly from the phone? then I'm not sure
[16:59] <runjorel> darmi: Yeah I think I am just going to try another distro
[16:59] <gangsterlicious> FYI, centos-5 i386 domU creation works
[16:59] <sportman1280> sipior: there is no key, for @ubuntu.csee.wvu.edu  so it is looking for a key that doesnt exist.
[16:59] <sharat> any idea
[16:59] <darmi> runjorel: r u using edgy
[16:59] <sharat> tells me that path doesnt exists
[16:59] <jcn> luth can you help pls
[16:59] <jcn> ?
[16:59] <runjorel> darmi: heron, whatever the newest release was
[16:59] <jcn> lutha can u help me pls ??
[16:59] <aimchanger> hardy?
[16:59] <sipior> sportman1280: sure, but you can tell it to look for a key that does exist
[17:00] <sharat> wizard any idea
[17:00] <sharat> ?
[17:00] <tobago> Luhta, no i try it from internet client
[17:00] <thefish> what is the "standard" desktop search in hardy
[17:00] <_zo> sharat: checkout http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=450772
[17:00] <thefish> it seems tracker is not as prominent at in 710
[17:00] <WizardFait> Lmao. I love multi-tasking, I'm reading this, and playing Zdoom! WOOT! Lol... But seriously... As I asked earlier (Before I left) does anyone knwo why is 7.10 compiz worked for me, yet now in 8.04 it says "Desktop effects can not be started"? I have an ATI 320M Chipset.
[17:00] <sharat> ok....
[17:00] <sharat> thank you ZO_
[17:00] <sportman1280> sipior: am i not doing that, by setting the DEBEMAIL variable?
[17:00] <sharat> sorry _zo
[17:01] <Luhta> jcn dpkg -l |grep envy
[17:01] <sharat> ooo this looks goos
[17:01] <sharat> *good
[17:01] <aimchanger> wizard:have you installed the components from apt-get?
[17:01] <darmi> runjorel: enable dump and debug options in /etc/pptpd.conf it will generate helpful output in /var/log/debug & /var/log/messages
[17:01] <jcn> cn@machineJCN:~$  dpkg -l |grep envy
[17:01] <jcn> ii  envyng-core                                1.1.1ubuntu11                                      install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver
[17:01] <jcn> ii  envyng-gtk                                 1.1.1ubuntu1                                       install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver
[17:01] <jcn> jcn@machineJCN:~$
[17:01] <FloodBot3> jcn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <Luhta> jcn sorry I should have warned you use pastebin >< my mistake
[17:02] <sportman1280> sipior: I need to get it setup perm.  because we sign stuff so often.  I can't be taking the "long way" around things.
[17:02] <WizardFait> Yes. But even still, Compiz is installed by default... Isn't it?
[17:02] <jcn> no problem
[17:02] <runjorel> darmi: cool, I'll do that
[17:02] <darmi> runjorel: but I'm stuck
[17:02] <J-_> !pastebin | jcn
[17:02] <anirudh0> sportman1280, why not use wizards on clients like kmail and evolution to do that for you
[17:02] <aimchanger> wizard: I know for me I had to install some things
[17:02] <darmi> runjorel: cool
[17:02] <snarkster> awesome Ive made the changes.
[17:03] <snarkster> must i restart to see if they work? or just restart X
[17:03] <WizardFait> aimchanger: Were they just the CSM? Or was it actually something else?
[17:03] <runjorel> darmi: me too...something is just not working the way it's supposed to...but im going insane! :)
[17:03] <Luhta> jcn echo $PATH
[17:03] <sipior> sportman1280: perhaps this thread is useful to you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570067
[17:03] <sipior> sportman1280: or perhaps it's another issue entirely :-)
[17:03] <darmi> runjorel: run a debian box next to it
[17:03] <Luhta> jcn 1 liners are usually alright here
[17:03] <snarkster> brb
[17:03] <aimchanger> wizard: search the package manager forcompiz and install what younthink you need... emerald,etc
[17:04] <WizardFait> That's the thing... Idk what I need...
[17:04] <aimchanger> compiz-manager..
[17:04] <WizardFait> I'm not *too* ubuntu savvy... Yet...
[17:04] <teknoprep> heh
[17:04] <mohkohn> I really hate Mac OSX but setting up an Adhoc wireless network takes 5 seconds.
[17:05] <WizardFait> But even still. Shouldn't I be able to go to appearance, and enable it...? Without error?
[17:05] <aimchanger> haha me neither... useadept manager to. search with a GUI
[17:05] <teknoprep> Mac OS X is great
[17:05] <WizardFait> Granted, I wouldn't be able to modify it...
[17:05] <mohkohn> This is my tale of woe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5078456#post5078456
[17:05] <aimchanger> well to get the cool effects you need to instll them
[17:05] <J-_> In 8.04 compiz is already installed, you just have to install the compizconfig settings manager and emerald(if you want the windows decorations)
[17:06] <WizardFait> Right... so I should be able to enable it, without installing anything, and not have a "Could not start" Or w/e...
[17:06] <mohkohn> How can I connect an Ubuntu iMac and a Vista PC i to share internet ad hoc mode?
[17:06] <sportman1280> sipior: the issue is different.  for some reason.  in my .bashrc my DEBEMAIL is being modified by ubuntu, to include the @ubuntu subdomain... I dont know how or why and need it removed.  it is supposed to be @csee.wvu.edu.  Why would ubuntu decide to inject data into my settings?
[17:07] <jrib> sportman1280: how are you determining this?
[17:07] <darmi> mohkohn: & ubuntu as the access point?
[17:07] <TheOV> I'm having trouble with the 8.04 alternate CD. When it gets to the "Install the base system" step, it says "Can't download package libacl1 (and so on, through the whole list of packages)". It seems to not be reading the CD. This CD passed the integrity test.
[17:07] <WizardFait> sportman1280: Because it likes you? :)
[17:07] <mechdave> ikonia, what happens if you just update your device.map with (hd1) /dev/sdb and then paste in the default entries from the second menu.lst and change the partition in the root directive as necessary
[17:07] <sipior> sportman1280: is there a separate line showing up in /etc/bashrc or /etc/environment?
[17:07] <mohkohn> ubuntu access point
[17:07] <mohkohn> I have firestarter
[17:07] <mechdave> ikonia, that should work
[17:08] <mohkohn> I think my problem is how to configure the static ip on the vista side.
[17:08] <mohkohn> I am firing up my ubuntu laptop to try the same thing
[17:08] <WizardFait> mohkohn: Do you have firestarter making the ad-hoc connection?
[17:08] <aimchanger> theov : did you enable Internet repos by accident?
[17:08] <J-_> TheOV: Does the CD have the proper MD5 Checksum?
[17:08] <sipior> sportman1280: also, could you show the line in .bashrc that you use to set DEBEMAIL?
[17:08] <steven2> final test ended
[17:09] <mohkohn> Wiz
[17:09] <J-_> !md5 | TheOV
[17:09] <TheOV> aimchanger: I just followed the installer. Didn't do anything fancy
[17:09] <WizardFait> Yes?
[17:09] <sportman1280> sipior: export DEBEMAIL=jderemer@csee.wvu.edu
[17:09] <mohkohn> WizardFait, yes. Vista connects ok but no internet
[17:09] <darmi> mohkohn: have u built the ethernet bridge yur wireless adapter & eth0
[17:09] <WizardFait> Did you set up firestarter to re-route the internet connection?
[17:09] <TheOV> J-_: the CD passed the test (the one on the CD)
[17:09] <sportman1280> sipior: and here is what it trying to look for... gpg: skipped "Pete Deremer <jderemer@ubuntu.csee.wvu.edu>
[17:10] <mohkohn> darmi, how do I do that?
[17:10] <anirudh0> sportman1280, not that its my concern, but should'nt you be more careful about your identity...
[17:10] <krammer_> which folder do i need to reconfigure my monitor?
[17:10] <Radit> what's the best program to manage an ipod in ubuntu?
[17:10] <ratpoison> sipior, nope, doesn't seem to work :( open office and language support appear to be mutually exclusive. Launchpad time I guess
[17:10] <WizardFait> radit: I've found FLoola to work great.
[17:10] <aimchanger> radio: there are a few, ammarok works with older ones
[17:11] <WizardFait> Radit: Granted, it doesn't have *full* support of every feature....
[17:11] <aimchanger> and songbird
[17:11] <tyler_> can someone help me from a phlax command promp...im trying to edit my fstab cause i cant boot
[17:11] <hiptobecubic> does anyone else experience heavy crashing with f-spot?
[17:11] <darmi> mohkohn:
[17:11] <hiptobecubic> mine crashes out if i do anything intensive
[17:11] <darmi> mohkohn: one sec
[17:11] <sipior> sportman1280: actually, it says it skipped the key, which implies that it did find it. is it possible your secret and public keys have different addresses?
[17:11] <sportman1280> anirudh0: just a name and email. any directory has that information
[17:12] <Radit> Floola, Songbird, ammarok.. I'll look them up, thanks guys :-)
[17:12] <mohkohn> ok darmi
[17:12] <TheOV> Radit: it's amarok not ammarok
[17:12] <aimchanger> anytime :)
[17:12] <J-_> Radit: Check out exaile
[17:12] <sportman1280> sipior: no, they are the same.  keys have not changed. and worked perfect before the profile nuke.
[17:12] <TheOV> Radit: exaile is great, and i think gtkpod is another ipod management software
[17:12] <sipior> sportman1280: which profile nuke was this?
[17:12] <tyler_> the commands i can use are cat, mount, umount, insmod, rmmod, and lsmod, im on a live cd trying to access my fstab, can someone help me
[17:12] <sportman1280> sipior: i deleted everythign in my home folder and recreated it
[17:12] <aimchanger> radit thebes a great article on this. search the 10 best iTunes alternatives
[17:13] <sportman1280> sipior: reset everything up
[17:13] <J-_> I haven't used exaile for an ipod. I thought you were discussing what player to use.
[17:13] <Slart> tyler_: using those commands I'd say you can look at your fstab but not edit it
[17:13] <sportman1280> sipior: and its impossible for it to find it. no key with that email exists....
[17:13] <sipior> sportman1280: and this is where i ask: "and you backed up everything first, right?" ;-)
[17:13] <sportman1280> sipior: keys were backed up of course
[17:14] <Slart> tyler_: no pico? nano?
[17:14] <finek> hi, what's the name of cd burner for gnome
[17:14] <tyler_> slart: i went into the recovery thing in the grub bootloader and i got into the fstab but i couldnt edit it because it was read only
[17:14] <Slart> finek: brasero
[17:14] <sipior> sportman1280: obviously, but nothing else?
[17:14] <tyler_> what should i do?
[17:14] <Radit> Thanks, turns out i don't have to use itunes after all, thats great :-)
[17:14] <finek> Slart: thx
[17:14] <WizardFait> Radit: Wait.
[17:14] <WizardFait> Radit: Nvm... I mis-read it.
[17:14] <WizardFait> Continue on. :P
[17:14] <J-_> Dionis_: Brasero possibly. (It shipped with Gnome in 8.04)
[17:14] <tyler_> slart: what do i do
[17:14] <sportman1280> sipior: goal was a clean profile.  so nope. just redid all my settings
[17:14] <Radit> WizardFait: wha? oh, hehe..
[17:14] <Slart> tyler_: you can't boot normally? what's wrong?
[17:14] <aimchanger> heh I still have to find sometime that works with my iPod touch
[17:14] <J-_> Nautilus can burn CD's too
[17:14] <tyler_> i edit the fstab and now i cant boot
[17:15] <Radit> k thanks ;-)
[17:15] <finek> ok
[17:15] <WizardFait> Radit: Yeah, My bad... I thought you said you *DID* have to use iTunes after all....
[17:15] <tyler_> slart: i know how to fix it but it requires me to edit the fstab
[17:15] <sipior> sportman1280: is generating a new set of keys out of the question? have these been used for anything important yet?
[17:15] <Slart> tyler_: so, you need to edit the fstab again.. ok, got it.. do you have a ubuntu live cd?
[17:15] <hypno_alex> h1 2 all)
[17:15] <tyler_> i do not
[17:15] <anirudh0> tyler_, you could use a live cd to edit fstab
[17:15] <monkeyBox> How can I tell which repository a package belongs to?
[17:15] <tyler_> for some reason this live phlax cd wont boot into a gui
[17:15] <Slart> tyler_: what happens if you write "nano" in that recovery shell?
[17:15] <sportman1280> sipior: that doesnt solve the issue of it still trying to find a key that will never exist as i dont have an @ubuntu.csee.wvu.edu email
[17:15] <anirudh0> monkeyBox, synaptic has a "origin" filter
[17:16] <sipior> sportman1280: well, i quite agree
[17:16] <Slart> tyler_: or editor/pico/vim .. one of them should work
[17:16] <jrib> sportman1280: how are you calling gpg?
[17:16] <tyler_> slart: not found
[17:16] <sportman1280> jrib: debsign
[17:16] <monkeyBox> anirudh0,   I don't have a gui... I'm ssh'd in remotely over a not-so-fast connection
[17:16] <anirudh0> tyler_, pico,nano,vi,emacs,joe.ed,tiny..something must be there
[17:16] <anirudh0> monkeyBox, one sec
[17:17] <sportman1280> my keys do show up in the seahorse and gpg --list-keys
[17:17] <J-_> tyler_: nano is probably there.
[17:17] <TheOV> so does anyone have any solution to my problem (with the alternate CD)?
[17:17] <sportman1280> sipior: and forgot the 2nd half, yes they ahve been used for important stuff already
[17:18] <jrib> sportman1280: so is the maintainer field in the .dsc correct?
[17:18] <fde> TheOV: Please restate the issue... it's hard to remember everyone...
[17:18] <arakthor> anyone here set up a webserver on ubuntu? I'm looking for some help regarding default mail directories using postfix/courier/postfixadmin
[17:18] <tyler_> no im on a limited shell cant find phlax file system dropping you to a a very limited shell
[17:18] <J-_> TheOV: Did you check out the md5 factoid? do the checksums match up?
[17:18] <_zo> arakthor: what does webserver have to do with postfix?
[17:18] <sportman1280> jrib: yes
[17:18] <TheOV> ﻿I'm having trouble with the 8.04 alternate CD. When it gets to the "Install the base system" step, it says "Can't download package libacl1 (and so on, through the whole list of packages)". It seems to not be reading the CD. This CD passed the integrity test. The installer is able to retrieve the packages in an earlier step, but not in the Install Base System step.
[17:18] <arakthor> _zo: I'm sorry, I meant mailserver
[17:19] <sportman1280> jrib: just double checked, it.  it is the same error no matter what package i am trying to sign
[17:19] <darmi> mohkohn: ah.. it's 9am & I have to jam.... um it's a few steps first u might want to check google on creating an wireless access point on ubuntu. also chk out pyramid linux it may be alittle smoother for u . I be back online in about 3hrs
[17:19] <Slart> phlax ??
[17:19] <J-_> !u | darmi
[17:19] <_zo> arakthor: did you read all the wiki pages?
[17:19] <fde> TheOV: You can try installing a minimal system... then installing 'ubuntu-desktop' when it's up?
[17:19] <arakthor> _zo: yessir
[17:19] <mohkohn> thanks darmi
[17:19] <TheOV> fde: i'm doing the install command-line system
[17:20] <fde> TheOV: I'm familiar with it... but there should be a minimal option.
[17:20] <jrib> sportman1280: so the maintainer field in the .dsc lacks the "@ubuntu....", but gpg still looks for it?  I can't recreate that here
[17:20] <darmi> J-_: u da man
[17:20] <_zo> arakthor: whats the problem then?
[17:20] <mohkohn> Perhaps what I need to do is have my wlan0 as DHCP
[17:20] <fde> TheOV: Maybe it says Server instead, I forget, but it installs only the base system.
[17:20] <mohkohn> How would I do that?
[17:20] <TheOV> fde: I thought the command-line system was minimal
[17:20] <arakthor> _zo: I want to have a "Spam" folder initially available to all users added to the system - right now there is only Sent,Inbox,Trash
[17:20] <TheOV> fde: yes that's all i want
[17:20] <tyler_> what version of ubuntu do i need to download that is also a live cd?
[17:21] <anirudh0> monkeyBox, look at the man dpkg-query page..the showformats section
[17:21] <WizardFait> mohkohn: You don't need DHCP for an AD-HOC network.
[17:21] <TheOV> tyler_: the desktop version
[17:21] <fde> TheOV: No... it just using debian-installer rather than ubiquity, and isn't a live system.
[17:21] <_zo> arakthor: so your mailserver works you just want a global spam folder?
[17:21] <sportman1280> jrib: yes.  its a fluke error.  It just started happening after my home folder got recreated.  but i have no idea how to fix it :(
[17:21] <tyler_> does anyone know of an ubuntu live cd that is smaller im on dialup
[17:21] <arakthor> _zo: yes, or a per user spam folder (I may be misunderstanding global)
[17:21] <Slart> tyler_: all the regular install cd's are live cd's
[17:21] <jrib> sportman1280: is DEBSIGN_MAINT set to something?
[17:21] <TheOV> fde: ???
[17:21] <Slart> tyler_: avoid server and alternate install
[17:21] <tyler_> anyone know of like a 50mb or less live cd
[17:22] <_zo> arakthor: global would be one spam folder for every user...per user is well, per user
[17:22] <J-_> darmi: Dude, people do use translations on irc. or text to speech. u also means other things in other languages. So, use the proper spelling.
[17:22] <arakthor> _zo: then, yes, global
[17:22] <sportman1280> jrib: no
[17:22] <sipior> J-_: pedantry is tedious
[17:22] <david_brent> can i ask a simple question? does the ubuntu server edition have gnom, or kde, or X
[17:22] <poopuser> hi.i am trying to install xbanto...when i am at preparing drives -> manual > chose root partition i get error : 'main file system was not defined plz correct this in pratition menu'...but file system is ext3? ? ?any sugestions?
[17:22] <WizardFait> Is there an ubuntu live DVD? And if so, what's on it that's different than the live CD?
[17:22] <Slart> david_brent: nope
[17:22] <|Stevie|> whats a good cd/dvd catalogue program?
[17:22] <david_brent> k, thanks
[17:22] <fde> TheOV: that the name of the different installers... start over and look for an option about server install... or type 'linux expert' to choose less stuff be installed.
[17:22] <|Stevie|> tried gnomecatalog but its pretty buggy
[17:22] <anirudh0> WizardFait, has more packages on dvd..you dont have to download so much after install
[17:22] <tyler_> even the 64 bit have a live cd on them?
[17:22] <TheOV> fde: this is the alternate CD!
[17:23] <WizardFait> Where doyou find it?
[17:23] <mohkohn> WizardFait, can you direct me to a simple doc. In mac it is this easy. http://www.macinstruct.com/node/118
[17:23] <_zo> arakthor: I think you can create a global folder and name it whatever you want, are you looking for a spam filter to go with your mailserver? if so thats a different issue
[17:23] <WizardFait> Gah... Space didn't want to work.
[17:23] <Slart> david_brent: it's easily installed though.. but I don't think it's there by default
[17:23] <fde> TheOV: you mentioned... I've been using it since before it was released in 2003  :/
[17:23] <WizardFait> mohkohn: A doc for what? I'm sorry.
[17:23] <arakthor>  _zo: I already have filtering for spam and viruses set up. just need the folder
[17:23] <poopuser> hi.i am trying to install xbanto...when i am at preparing drives -> manual > chose root partition i get error : 'main file system was not defined plz correct this in pratition menu'...but file system is ext3? ? ?any sugestions?
[17:23] <astra-work> after updating to the newest nvidia driver/latest official ubuntu releases update, is anyone .xsession incredibly broken?
[17:24] <fde> TheOV: Instead of just hitting enter on the first screen... type 'linux expert'
[17:24] <tyler_> even the 64 bit have a live cd on them?
[17:24] <TheOV> fde: the options in the 8.04 CD are Normal, OEM install, Install a command-line system (the one I always use), and Install an LTSP server
[17:24] <darmi> mohkohn: I'll reply to yur ubuntu forum question
[17:24] <|Stevie|> no one uses a cd/dvd catalog program?
[17:24] <mohkohn> How to connect two computers together one with eth0 and the other with wlan0. Somebody said something about bridging
[17:24] <WizardFait> anirudh0: Where can I find the DVD?
[17:24] <_zo> !postfix
[17:24] <ue> Is this ok ? Xorg using ~400mb of RAM ?
[17:24] <tyler_> even the 64 bit have a live cd on them?
[17:24] <fde> TheOV: Ok... well expert mode will allow you to not even have to install ubuntu-standard or ubuntu-minimal ... so it should have greater success.
[17:25] <mohkohn> super darmi
[17:25] <anirudh0> WizardFait, not sure..many people put it up themselves..google for it :)
[17:25] <anirudh0> WizardFait, also see this..it applies to a dvd also ...http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd
[17:25] <poopuser> hi.i am trying to install xbanto...when i am at preparing drives -> manual > chose root partition i get error : 'main file system was not defined plz correct this in pratition menu'...but file system is ext3? ? ?any sugestions?it's not like i enyoj posting same thing 3rd time
[17:25] <fde> TheOV: It will be a little more complicated though... but I'm sure you can manage  ;)
[17:25] <_zo> arakthor: whata bout this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto
[17:25] <slappy> is there a global script for gnome/nautilus  like the bashrc for the terminal?
[17:25] <WizardFait> mohkohn: I'm sorry, Idk about that bridgiing thing he was talking about. (Well, I do, just not in Ubuntu) However, in my experience using Firestarter, you just tell it you want to tunnel the internet connection in the settings, start up the ad-hoc network, then go to Vista, look for wireless networks (Make sure it is willing to see ad-hoc) then connect.
[17:25] <TheOV> fde: i don't know if you understand my problem - it's that the CD seems to stop reading in the Install Base System stage
[17:26] <anirudh0> poopuser, have you chosen a mount point for /
[17:26] <poopuser> yes
[17:26] <poopuser> or w8
[17:26] <poopuser> not sure
[17:26] <arakthor> _zo: no :s
[17:26] <poopuser> how to check it?
[17:26] <fde> TheOV: Yes... so lets make it not install quite as many packages... and see if it works that way... else you'll need to burn a new CD...
[17:26] <anirudh0> TheOV, run a md5sum check. never heard of integrity check working wrongly though..
[17:26] <Chuggst3r> Hey all, new question. Whenever I run the Update Manager from the Terminal, this line always comes up. "current dist not found in meta-release file"
[17:26] <WizardFait> Thank you anirudh0
[17:26] <poopuser> phone brb
[17:27] <_zo> arakthor: no? no you haven't checked it? or no you don't want to, or no its not going to help?
[17:27] <arakthor> _zo: already been through it several times
[17:27] <mohkohn> WizardFait, What do you mean "(Make sure it is willing to see ad-hoc"?
[17:27] <_zo> arakthor: ah
[17:27] <TheOV> fde: it is only installing the base system
[17:27] <FreshPineSent> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu so I don't know, what is the best way to install VMware Tools on a Ubuntu virtual machine?
[17:27] <poopuser> so mr  anirudh0 how do i check IF mount point is chosen?
[17:28] <MitchM> is there a good wiki technology that has version control on files uploaded?
[17:28] <mohkohn> I am also trying to connect my ubuntu laptop as well.
[17:28] <arakthor> _zo: unfortunately, the ubuntu wiki is rather incomplete, so I have managed to put together my own how-to, at least for my company, and I may consider updating the wiki with what I have found
[17:28] <fde> TheOV: Then you'll need to burn another CD. The command line system isn't just the base system though.
[17:29] <mohkohn> Both vista and hardy say they connect but  no internet.
[17:29] <TheOV> fde: this time it's working!!!
[17:29] <fde> arakthor: Definitely please do!
[17:29] <poopuser> mr anirudh0?
[17:29] <fde> TheOV: I hate it when things fix themselves... heh
[17:29] <krammer_> Is the new version of ubuntu stable?
[17:29] <_zo> arakthor: best bet is http://www.postfix.org/lists.html
[17:29] <fde> krammer_: for many, yes
[17:30] <astra-work> if you delete ~/.xsession
[17:30] <astra-work> what will that effect?
[17:30] <Slart> krammer_: not mission control stable.. but desktop stable =)
[17:30] <arakthor> _zo: ok, thank you very much
[17:30] <krammer_> ok ty
[17:30] <fde> arakthor: Any contributions are greatly appreciated... just make the changes you want, and someone will review it  :)
[17:30] <TheOV> fde: the system i'm installing on is an IBM Thinkpad 390E (PII 300MHz, 64MB RAM, 3GB HDD), so it always has lots of random problems that tend to fix themselves :D
[17:30] <fde> astra-work: your x sesion? heh... what is in it currently?
[17:31] <astra-work> not sure as everything past gdm/xdm is rather messed up
[17:31] <astra-work> i updated recommended updates yesterday
[17:31] <astra-work> inclduing the new nvidia blob
[17:31] <astra-work> and it seem to break everything
[17:31] <icecubex132> i need help with me-tv?
[17:31] <babolat> Im looking to setup a LAN file server using an old PC with ubuntu in it. anyone know a good howto or guide for that?
[17:32]  * Slart goes to look for the new nvidia blob
[17:32] <fde> astra-work: cat ~/.xsession
[17:32] <Arno__> hello everyone.
[17:32] <astra-work> i know how to do it
[17:32] <legend2440> |Stevie|: theres a package calle katalog in synaptic. never tried it myself though
[17:32] <astra-work> i am in windows right now, give me a minutes to install ext2 ifs
[17:32] <atlef> !server | babolat:
[17:32] <nanoprobe> hello everyone
[17:32] <|Stevie|> legend2440, thanks will try that, got a nice link also: http://www.linux.com/feature/127174
[17:32] <|Stevie|> if anyone is on the search too ;)
[17:32] <babolat> thanks, at;
[17:33] <fde> astra-work: Anyway, the .xsession is things that will start up when you start x initially... but only for that user... there is another similar but much larger file for the entire system also.
[17:33] <pushpop> what is the equivalent to itunes for ubuntu I need to sync my music to my ipod?
[17:33] <_zo> !ipod | pushpop
[17:33] <mohkohn> Is this something to do with master mode?
[17:33] <arakthor> ubottu is a little slow today eh? :p
[17:34] <anirudh0> poopuser, sorry..had gone off..post a screenshot of your partition page
[17:34] <anirudh0> !ext3> anirudh0
[17:34] <astra-work> i am quite familiar with that, but if i wanted to clear out all X problems, is .xession a good place to start
[17:35] <fde> astra-work: note however that it is desktop neutral, gnome and kde handle that in a different place.
[17:35] <fde> astra-work: What issues are you encountering? I'd move it out of the way to simplify troubleshooting, yes
[17:35] <_zo> ok i'm off to play with rockbox
[17:36] <astra-work> thanks fde
[17:36] <poopuser> anirudh0 np also mount point is chosen
[17:37] <tyler_> does kubuntu have a live cd built in also???
[17:37] <poopuser> screenshot brb
[17:37] <tyler_> this was the final beta a few days before release
[17:38] <fde> tyler_: yup... www.kubuntu.com
[17:39] <Chuggst3r> fde: How are ya?
[17:40] <fde> Chuggst3r: Pretty good, thanks... this isn't a social channel though, #ubuntu-offtopic ... I'm in there too  :)
[17:40] <Chuggst3r> fde: Well it was leading to me bothering you about something new. :P
[17:41] <Chuggst3r> fde: I'm having a little oddity with Update-Manager, whenever I run it from terminal I get "current dist not found in meta-release file"
[17:41] <poopuser> anirudh0 problems with screeenshot - i am runnin xbanto live cd , print screen seams dosen't work
[17:42] <anirudh0> Chuggst3r, http://www.google.co.in/search?q=current+dist+not+found+in+meta+package&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a....why dont people use google...
[17:42] <anirudh0> first link there
[17:42] <roojan> hello
[17:42] <fde> Chuggst3r: sudo aptitude update ... then try again... if the result is the same, please pastebin that output, and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:42] <roojan> any one to talk?
[17:43] <fde> roojan: hey... you need any help with anything? welcome to #ubuntu by the way  ;D
[17:43] <Chuggst3r> anirudh0: The problem is my copy was never an updated version, straight install of Hardy. I also tried those to no avail.
[17:43] <atlef> !ask > roojan:
[17:43] <fde> Chuggst3r: Please try what I said, thank you.
[17:43] <dhamma> how do i check how much disk space my current install uses?  i'm asking because i need to reinstall and partitioned too much space for / the first time around...i want to repartition more closely to what i actually use
[17:44] <anirudh0> Chuggst3r, oh..sorry then ;)
[17:44] <Chuggst3r> fde: Trying it now.
[17:44] <MitchM> Anyone know of a good document management application? Such as to where people can upload files (say images) and I can keep a history of such 'updates' ?
[17:44] <atlef> dhamma: system monitor has that info
[17:44] <anirudh0> MitchM, you are talking about google docs?
[17:45] <dhamma> atlef: thanks
[17:45] <darmi> mohkohn: u still there?
[17:45] <MitchM> anirudh0, i must be... :)
[17:45] <Chuggst3r> fde: http://pastebin.com/d26d58f2e
[17:45] <fparodi> Did anyone install VNC server from RealVNC on Ubuntu 8.04?
[17:45] <MitchM> anirudh0, except... i can't use that on the intranet ;)
[17:45] <fde> Chuggst3r: Did you pastebin the output also?
[17:46] <Chuggst3r> fde: Oops sorry, pasted the wrong output.
[17:46] <fde> Chuggst3r: of whatever you were doing to get the original error... but after doing aptitude update
[17:46] <fde> Chuggst3r: No, that is half of what I asked for, so you're fine  :)
[17:46] <mohkohn> I am
[17:46] <mohkohn> darmi
[17:47] <anirudh0> MitchM, hmm....you could set up a local wiki
[17:47] <darmi> mohkohn:
[17:47] <anirudh0> MitchM, fairly easy to do..see tuts on the net
[17:47] <mohkohn> yep
[17:47] <darmi> mohkohn: http://pastebin.com/d274749cf
[17:48] <fde> Chuggst3r: btw, did you ever sort out your video issues?
[17:48] <cyrus> howdy
[17:48] <Chuggst3r> fde: Yeah actually.
[17:48] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/174266
[17:48] <cyrus> I just setup networks shares via samba, how do I change the shares from home directory to a mounted drive?
[17:48] <Chuggst3r> fde: It ended up being the Nvidia beta driver I had installed, it wasn't getting removed via any of the nvidia-glx stuff.
[17:48] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Tried those as well :(
[17:49] <fde> Chuggst3r: Can you show me the aptitude output with the error you spoke of please. Glad you got that figured out though  :)
[17:50] <Chuggst3r> fde: Trying to, pastebin is saying I'm triggering their spam filter.
[17:50] <anirudh0> lol
[17:50] <mohkohn> darmi should the ath0 there be wlan0? I don't have ath0
[17:50] <fde> Chuggst3r: haha... try paste.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <kakoonia> hey, i just installed tild, but from some reason all text i write, is written but disapears with the next key stroke anybody fromiliar with this problem?
[17:50] <darmi> mohkohn: yep
[17:50] <kakoonia> tilda**
[17:50] <hrhodes3114> Does any one have a simple way to install a acer laptop 802.3g
[17:51] <hrhodes3114> driver
[17:51] <mohkohn> I guess you are checking to see if I am paying attention!! :)
[17:51] <anirudh0> kakoonia, imo tilda is'nt half as good as the kde equivalent yakuake
[17:51] <darmi> adjust the settings to fit ur network
[17:51] <MrBashir> You probably will shout at me for this, but is there a GUI for VSFTPD?
[17:51] <cyrus> ;   logon drive = H:
[17:51] <cyrus> ;   logon home = \\%N\%U
[17:51] <cyrus> would that suffice?
[17:51] <fde> hrhodes3114: You mean your wireless drivers? lspci | grep -i wireless please.
[17:51] <Chuggst3r> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15818/
[17:51] <hrhodes3114> for yes sir
[17:51] <cyrus> if i uncomment that, would that put the user into that directory?
[17:51] <biesbjerg__> could anyone help me remove apache2, php and mysql from my ubuntu 8.04 server edition?
[17:51] <Chuggst3r> fde: Also, any idea why when I use sudo commands it pops up with that unable to resolve line?
[17:52] <cyrus> sudo apt-get remove apache2 php5 mysql5
[17:52] <hischild> MrBashir: that ought not to cause shouting at you. You can search for it ==> aptitude search vsftpd and it should show.
[17:52] <cyrus> biesbjerg__: sudo apt-get remove apache2 php5 mysql5
[17:52] <biesbjerg__> I tried sudo apt-get remove apache2 php5 mysql, but they are all still there
[17:52] <hrhodes3114> thank you
[17:52] <cyrus> I'ad assume that right
[17:52] <hrhodes3114> sir
[17:52] <darmi> mohkohn: may the source be with u.... I'll back online n bout three hours.... going off line in bout 5mins
[17:52] <cyrus> biesbjerg__: did you /etc/init.d/apache2 stop?
[17:52] <cyrus> first?
[17:52] <kakoonia> anirudh0 : ye i know.. but when you on gnome, yakuake's gui isnt the best, so i looked for something that works good with gnome, though as isee it sucks even worse.
[17:52] <MrBashir> hischild: thanks :)
[17:52] <melch> hey can someone tell me why is it when i sleep the ath_apci model will not load and i am kept awake. Is there a way i can make it run a script so modprobe -r it when it goes to sleep
[17:52] <TheOV> fde: why does the "storing language" (75%) take so long?
[17:52] <hischild> biesbjerg__: you will probably have to reboot or something, as apt can sometimes remove software and let it run untill it is shut down.
[17:52] <fde> Chuggst3r: ahh... you were having that issue when we last spoke... it's just another symtom of it... I'm not actually aware of how to fix it though... it is a sudo issue....
[17:53] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: gksu gedit /etc/hosts make sure it says nick-desktop in there
[17:53] <biesbjerg__> cybrside, hischild : No, thought the uninstall script did that. But apt said it removed it and then I rebooted. Still there tho
[17:53] <fde> TheOV: It's a HUGE package. It is creating locales for about 20 forms of English...
[17:53] <hischild> fde: a slow sudo execution can be caused by the host not being in /etc/hosts.
[17:53] <hischild> (just to let you know
[17:53] <hischild> biesbjerg__: that's odd. And if you go to http://localhost it still works?
[17:54] <MrBashir> hischild: hold on, I have installed that already, but I like to have a GUI for that (your command only returns the deamon)
[17:54] <biesbjerg__> hischild: Yea, I installed the server through the ubuntu installation but that probably doesn't matter?
[17:54] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: What exactly am I looking for?
[17:54] <hischild> MrBashir: then it most likely has no GUI with it, unless that option is already there in the menu's.
[17:54] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: I've got this 127.0.1.1 nick-desktop.workgroupname
[17:54] <fde> hischild: legend2440: I am sort of aware of how to fix it, but I've never actually done it, so I'm not comfortable assisting... however if sudo is broken, why would using sudo have anythig to do with the fix?
[17:54] <hischild> biesbjerg__: that's odd. That shouldn't matter.
[17:55] <fde> legend2440: I think he needs to boot to runlevel 1 and edit that file and /etc/hostname
[17:55] <anirudh0> fde, whats the difference in the various english locales?
[17:55] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: i think should just say nick-desktop without workgroupname but maybe backup before changing
[17:55] <hischild> fde: Chuggst3r: problem is that having .workgroupname after the host makes sudo resolv that first, which can take a long time.
[17:55] <hischild> legend2440: ^
[17:55] <poopuser> mount point- check / file system ext3 / installer says 'main filesystem was not defined' oh guyz plz help me.10 moar minuts and i am starting to look 4 zenwalk cd
[17:55] <fde> Chuggst3r: Do you have another box you can talk to me from while I guide you through some steps to try to fix your sudo?
[17:56] <cyrus> So ya, anyone know about samba shares?
[17:56] <fde> cyrus: For basic things, I can help... for more advanced, try #samba maybe...
[17:56] <Chuggst3r> fde: Well I took the workgroup name out and it seems to have gone away.
[17:57] <Chuggst3r> fde: Would it fix the update-manager problem as well?
[17:57]  * fde doesn't understand how you can edit a file via sudo when sudo is broken
[17:57] <fde> Chuggst3r: It should, yes... try it  :)
[17:57] <hischild> fde: it just takes a long time. Also, you can edit it via the menu's which shouldn't need sudo.
[17:57] <biesbjerg__> hischild: I reinstall it all and typed apt-get remove apache2-mpm-prefork
[17:57] <cyrus> I just need to know how to change the home directory for a use login
[17:57] <biesbjerg__> seemed to have done the trick I think
[17:57] <jyro> my gnome panel disappeared because of unmet dependencies... anyone else have this problem?
[17:58] <Chuggst3r> fde: It's not broken, it works...just came up with that message.
[17:58] <fde> cyrus: man smbpasswd
[17:58] <Chuggst3r> fde: It's an annoyance really. :P
[17:58] <Chuggst3r> fde: Yet it didn't fix the whole update-manager problem.
[17:58] <facilitador> hello friends
[17:58] <cyrus> ummm
[17:58] <jyro> anyone else have a broken gnome-panel after updates?
[17:58] <facilitador> how are you?
[17:59] <facilitador> how do to install package automatically solve all depedencias?
[17:59] <hischild> biesbjerg__: try searching for apache2  ( synaptic search apache2 ) and see if it's still installed
[17:59] <facilitador> how do to install package automatically solve all depedencias in ubuntu?
[17:59] <fde> cyrus: actually, according to that file... it obeys /etc/passwd ... that file contains home directories.
[17:59] <hischild> facilitador: apt automatically resolves dependencies, meaning you don't have to do it by hand.
[17:59] <atlef> facilitador: synaptic
[18:00] <atlef> !synaptic > facilitador:
[18:00] <cyrus> oh
[18:00] <hischild> jyro: what do you mean with broken gnome-panel?
[18:00] <cyrus> so it's where ever the user's home dir is?
[18:00] <wornof> Trying to connect to a WEP secured network in Hardy Heron. I can fill in wireless key etc., but it won't let me click 'connect' - thinks I need a longer key. How do I make it work?
[18:00] <cyrus> how do I create a new user then?
[18:01] <fde> cyrus: yup... guests with use 'nobody'
[18:01] <jyro> ok, so i cant install gnome-about because of a dependency error -> gnome-about: Depends: gnome-desktop-data (=1:2.22.2-0ubuntu1) but 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[18:01] <fde> will*
[18:01] <anirudh0> has anyone here tried ctorrent?
[18:01] <jyro> so i cant install gnome-panel
[18:01] <qba___> how to find therm_adt746x and start it?
[18:01] <jyro> so im sol
[18:01] <cyrus> what's the create a user command?
[18:01] <anirudh0> is there any improvement in speed using ctorrent?
[18:01] <qba___> its cpu temp monitoring tool
[18:01] <hischild> cyrus: sudo adduser <username>
[18:01] <anirudh0> cyrus, useradd
[18:01] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: read very last post re: meta error https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/174266
[18:01] <qba___> anirudh0: no diff what torrent u use it all about ur conn ;p
[18:02] <jyro> so no answer for broken gnome panel?
[18:02] <fde> jyro: what is broken about it?
[18:02] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: I was hesitant on doing that though, isn't that a bad thing to do?
[18:02] <qba___> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel ?
[18:02] <qba___> jyro: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel ?
[18:02] <anirudh0> qba___, too bad ...i was hoping ctorrent would be a bit faster :)
[18:02] <jyro> well, would do that but i cant install gnome-panel
[18:02] <jyro> because of a dependency error
[18:02] <anirudh0> jyro, pastebin apt's error
[18:02] <jyro> gnome-about: Depends: gnome-desktop-data (=1:2.22.2-0ubuntu1) but 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[18:02] <Devistator> does any one know where I can get some cool linux hacks???
[18:03] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: well, i've never had to do it so can't say
[18:03] <jyro> and gnome-panel depends on gnome-about
[18:03] <qba___> Devistator: hacks for what :D
[18:03] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Welp, worse case scenario I reinstall.
[18:03] <jyro> this just happened when i updated with apt
[18:03] <Rob76> Deviststor: not here.
[18:03] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: maybe just rename instad of remove
[18:03] <hischild> Devistator: define linux hacks ... like an awesome customized desktop?
[18:03] <fde> jyro: you let it remove gnome-panel?
[18:03] <Devistator> anything really as long as its not gonna shut my system down
[18:03] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[18:03] <Luhta> if jcn comes back looking for me tell them I'll be right back
[18:04] <fde> jyro: or it just can't update it?
[18:04] <jyro> yeah, i guess i didn't really read what was updating until after it happened
[18:04] <sobersabre> is there a channel I can consult about hosting provider ?
[18:04] <jyro> no, it actually removed it
[18:04] <Devistator> bbl
[18:04] <fde> jyro: for future reference, ALWAYS check at least what is to be removed!
[18:04] <hischild> jyro: please pastebin the entire error, from the top of the console down
[18:04] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: i don't think that error effects anything. just annoying
[18:04] <fde> jyro: for now, do you have update-proposed enabled by chance?
[18:04] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Well I removed the notifier, but it says the .update-manager-core isn't there...
[18:05] <fde> jyro: rather, hardy-proposed
[18:05] <TheOV> fde: any idea how long storing languages will take?
[18:05] <fde> TheOV: It should be done by now.... depends on your connection and system though.
[18:05] <jyro> jyro@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[18:05] <jyro> Reading package lists... Done
[18:05] <jyro> Building dependency tree
[18:05] <jyro> Reading state information... Done
[18:05] <jyro> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[18:05] <FloodBot3> jyro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <jyro> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[18:05] <hischild> jyro: i said pastebin, not paste.
[18:06] <TheOV> fde: what do you mean by connection speed?
[18:06] <fde> jyro: that's not what I asked for... have you enabled hardy-proposed?
[18:06] <hischild> fde: i asked him to pastebin the entire error.
[18:06] <fde> TheOV: It's a package, it has to be downloaded... then the locales have to be built....
[18:06] <jyro> yeah... i was just going to disable it
[18:06] <Devistator> bak
[18:06] <fde> hischild: Ok... well we already know his error....
[18:06] <TheOV> fde: well it's not downloading anything
[18:06] <fde> jyro: Please answer my question....
[18:07] <hischild> fde: not really tbqh. It might have given him an error due to something being wrong. I'll be quiet for now and observe.
[18:07] <anirudh0> is there a reader for ms reader's .lit files
[18:07] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: did you clean install hardy or upgrade?
[18:07] <jyro> sorry, usually i can find fixes on the forum.  Ive never used the irc channel.  and yes, i do have that enabled.
[18:07] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Clean install.
[18:07] <cyrus> *checks*
[18:07] <anirudh0> convertlit can convert...but can any app read the format directly?
[18:07] <fde> TheOV: look on alt+f2-6 for what it's doing right now... I think it's on f4 ... alt+f1 to go back to install routine.
[18:07] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: me too and i have .update-manager-core folder with a file inside
[18:07] <fde> jyro: In System > preferences > Software SOurces... in the "Updates" tab... is "hardy-proposed" checked?
[18:07] <sobersabre> guys please throw names of hosters like linode, with debian/ubuntu, root access etc.
[18:08] <Adeene> Aloha everybody! :)
[18:08] <sobersabre> Adeene: hola
[18:08] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: In your home folder?
[18:08] <TheOV> fde: thx yeah i 4got about that
[18:08] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: yes
[18:08] <frenzy42> has any one ever built their own liveCD, if so what did you use.
[18:08] <jyro> fde, yes, it is checked
[18:08] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Wow...sorry I'm just an idiot.
[18:09] <Rob76> frenzy42: I have... I used a program called remastersys, I think
[18:09] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: I removed it the first time haha, I just missed the line.
[18:09] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Yet I still get the error.
[18:09] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: may have to reboot for it to take effect
[18:09] <cyrus> thanks for you her fde!!!
[18:09] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Welp hopefully I'll be back. :D
[18:10] <iso> do not fart in the hot isle of a server room, it will linger
[18:10] <cyrus> works great, I created a new user, changed there home dir in /etc/passwd
[18:10] <tarmo> hi - update manager freezes - how to fix ?
[18:10] <cyrus> works mint;)
[18:10] <frenzy42> rob76: how easy was it to use?
[18:10] <Rosen> Can anyone help me get my gfx-card to work in Hardy? It worked just fine with a restricted driver before I updated to HH but now it doesnt anymore... it's a Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[18:11] <fde> cyrus: You're welcome... all I did was point you in the right direction  :P
[18:11] <Rob76> frenzy42: very easy, IIRC... run sudo apt-get remastersys... then run man remastersys
[18:11] <testola> hey! what is the best puzzle game i can find on ubuntu?
[18:12] <ccooke> testola: depends on the sort of puzzles you like, I guess
[18:12] <ccooke> testola: are you talking things like bejewelled?
[18:13] <Rob76> frenzy42: some google searching would go a long way, too... I forget if remastersys is in the ubuntu repos or not... it mightve been in the Linux mint repos instead
[18:13] <frenzy42> Rob76: it can't find the package
[18:13] <Pici> testola: Try filets-ng
[18:13] <frenzy42> yea i think it is
[18:13] <testola> ccooke: what is that? like some kind of fun puzzels to play
[18:13] <frenzy42> i'v tried google searching but all the projects if find are dead
[18:13] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Still nothing. :(
[18:13] <Rob76> frenzy43: hrmm
[18:14] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: did it recreate the two folders ?
[18:14] <frenzy42> like this sounds good: http://ibuild.livecd.net/ but it's a dead project
[18:14] <atlef> frenzy42: deb http://www.remastersys.klikit-linux.com/repository remastersys/
[18:14] <ccooke> testola: if you like some abstract puzzles, there's uligo
[18:14] <atlef> frenzy42: add to your sources.list
[18:15] <ccooke> testola: (that's a set of problems from the game of Go - rules can be found online all over the place)
[18:15] <testola> ccooke: thanx! and Pici: thanx fillets looks like fun!
[18:15] <Rob76> frenzy42: google "remastersys"... there's a good tutoria listed as the third link from ubuntugeek.com
[18:15] <Rob76> *tutorial
[18:15] <locohost> how do i get my desktop to spam 2 monitors in ubutu, ati driver loaded fine, and clone looks great
[18:15] <locohost> span*
[18:16] <atlef> frenzy42: found here : http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=11825&p=78450&hilit=remastersys#p78450
[18:16] <joshual> hi need help, is Slab still in production?
[18:16] <Rob76> sorry I'm slow... typing this from a mobile device :P
[18:16] <chazco> Hi.. i have 8.04 running php and mysql, via tasksel lamp. However, my website cannot see my database. I'm certain the username & password are correct, and its currently set to use any host. Any ideas?
[18:16] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: It recreated the Notifier one, but not the core.
[18:16] <joshual> you know that gnome replacement menu?
[18:16] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: my .update-notifier folder is empty and my .update-manager-core folder has file called meta-release-lts inside
[18:16] <fde> joshual: aptitude show gnome-main-menu ... that is slab
[18:16] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: -core was not recreated.
[18:17] <Catslacks> Can anyone help me with my wireless? I've had like a dozen people try but I'm lost, lol.
[18:17] <harfg> hey up
[18:17] <joshual> fde is it still in production, do you know if opensuse still uses it?
[18:17] <fde> joshual: yes
[18:17] <joshual> cool thx
[18:18] <joshual> brb
[18:18] <tyberion> Is there a way with some filemanager, to get a right-click -> Extract here... context menu?
[18:18] <legend2440> Chuggst3r:    you may want to create one  and then i can  paste the meta-release-lts so you can create it and put it inside the core folder
[18:18] <usser> tyberion, it should already be there with ubuntu
[18:18] <atlef> tyberion: it is there by default
[18:18] <tyberion> well Im using fluxbox.. and thunar... there it isnt :(
[18:19] <harfg> devs... you know the desktop could do with a front end for 'mlabel' and friends .. to easily rename the volume
[18:19] <usser> tyberion, oh thunar has it too
[18:19] <usser> tyberion, if u install file-roller
[18:19] <tyberion> thanks=)
[18:19] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Ready to go, can you put it on pastebin?
[18:19] <Ward1983> how can i restart everything that has to do with audio without rebooting?
[18:19] <tyberion> usser: file-roller is already the newest version
[18:19] <tyberion> still I dont have it in context menu.. mhh :(
[18:20] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: yes you created the .update-manager-core folder?
[18:20] <usser> tyberion, hm... what is the type of archive, it may not appear if archive is not supported
[18:20] <legend2440> !paste
[18:20] <tyberion> usser:  its a .tar.gz
[18:20] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Yep, and have meta-release-lts made.
[18:20] <jyro> how do i fix a broken dependency caused by a package typo?
[18:20] <usser> tyberion, also on my xfce it doesnt appear if i right click on the desktop\
[18:20] <fde> tyberion: ensure you have menu-xdg installed
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jyro Type in a ubuntu package?
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> typo
[18:21] <wastedyouth> I need help... my desktop no longer has toolbars... its blank with desktop icons...
[18:21] <locohost> anyone, dual head /spanned display? do i need another utility or something
[18:21] <fde> jyro: I told you how.... was there an error with that command?
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> wastedyouth compiz --replace   in a term
[18:21] <Flannel> !dualhead | locohost
[18:21] <tyberion> fde: I installed menu-xdg still.. its no working
[18:21] <wastedyouth> Compiz seems be working... I can use the desktop cube
[18:21] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: He has to downgrade a package for dep reasons...
[18:22] <tyberion> usser: hmm thats strange... still not there:(
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> wastedyouth Yes, but you lost window decorations.. which is what that command will fix
[18:22] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade /var/cache/apt/archive/gnome-desktop-data_2.22.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb  <-- this is what he needs to do.
[18:22] <wastedyouth> I have window decorations... I did that command and there is no change
[18:22] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15826/   strange it mentions dapper but i clean installed hardy but anyway here it is
[18:22] <harfg> fde I tryed to use that to get normallity back to my window title bars but it didnt much help
[18:22] <Ward1983> how can i restart everything that has to do with audio without rebooting?
[18:22] <DoYouKnow> hi. I'm trying to install fglrx+xserver-xgl on ubuntu 8.04
[18:22] <wastedyouth> Its the uhm... "start menu" bats that are missing
[18:22] <DoYouKnow> the xorg.conf file has like nothing in it
[18:22] <harfg> after enabling advanced destop effects and fing about with compiz
[18:22] <vico> #PyGTK
[18:22] <DoYouKnow> that's the default I guess... so I'm having a bit of trouble
[18:23] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Still nothing. :(
[18:23] <DoYouKnow> how do I generate a "normal" xorg.conf file and get this thing working?
[18:23] <Catslacks> Can anyone help me get my wireless going? I'm stuck.
[18:23] <Rob76> wastedyouth: have you tried rebooting?
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> wastedyouth we can restore the panels to defaults
[18:23] <fde> tyberion: note you need something like gamin to watch changes to files...
[18:23] <usser> tyberion, im not sure thats the one but try to install thunar-archive-plugin
[18:23] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: maybe reboot needed
[18:23] <wastedyouth> Yes, I tried rebooting.
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | jyro
[18:23] <studente> Hello!
[18:23] <wastedyouth> Its after the reboot that it started... after an upgrade
[18:24] <m-c> hello - I am trying to use printing for the first time (print is dead, right?), and having some trouble.  I plugged in the USB printer and it was seen by the applications just fine.  But, when I print, nothing happens.  Is there a print queue I can check?
[18:24] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: are the permissions for folder and file right?
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> wastedyouth <ubottu> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[18:24] <studente> Any chances to boot Ubuntu live from a USB stick on macbook? Google is quite silent about this
[18:24] <TheOV> fde: storing languages is still running :)
[18:24] <Sinnerman> hello. i try booting the ubuntu gutsy live dvd into a vmware server (obtained through the repos) vm, and for the past 459 seconds, it's been polling the various devices from sda to sdar at 10s intervals. why is that, and how can i stop it doing that?
[18:24] <fde> TheOV: Wow... I think it's safe to say something went wrong... that's proof though that it isn't just installing base.
[18:25] <jyro> I'm sorry.  I suppose I'm a noob when it comes to IRC ettiquette.  Here is my error.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15828/
[18:25] <boozkachu> Anyone have any links or tips about using Ubuntu in an internet cafe as the main operating system?
[18:25] <jcn> Hello, Lutha helped me absolutly nicely but now he is afk, I need help to deactivate Xorg and install Nvidia9600GT driver, I'm on gnome I did "ps axu |grep gdm"  and Control + Alt + Backspace but it started regularly with graphics
[18:25] <jcn>  is that normal
[18:25] <jcn>  ?
[18:25] <m-c> studente: it is very probably that it works, but it may not be easy nor may there be step by step instructions
[18:25] <Catslacks> Can anyone help me get my wireless going? I've installed madwifi but it doesn't work.
[18:25] <fde> TheOV: That is part of language-pack-en ... which is an Ubuntu thing.
[18:25] <Dillizar> Catslacks: are you on a laptop
[18:25] <redwhitewaldo> how do i remove "network servers" from nautilus's places?
[18:25] <m-c> boozkachu: what do you mean by 'main operating system' ?
[18:25] <redwhitewaldo> and from Menu's Places?
[18:25] <wastedyouth> It said gnome-panel: no process killed
[18:25] <Catslacks> Dillizar: No, a desktop.
[18:26] <TheOV> fde: i don't think there's a problem yet - teh hdd is still active, and it's doing "Generating locales... en_US.UTF-8"
[18:26] <studente> m-c: Indeed, they is no much information around :(
[18:26] <Dillizar> what is th problem you cant connect to interent
[18:26] <studente> m-c: My macbook is a intel based one, mayve that helps?
[18:26] <Dillizar> Catslacks:
[18:26] <boozkachu> m-c: Well "the" operating system if possible. I mean I don't want to use windows if it is possible to use Ubuntu for this
[18:26] <jcn> Hello, Lutha helped me absolutly nicely but now he is afk, I need help to deactivate Xorg and install Nvidia9600GT driver, I'm on gnome I did "ps axu |grep gdm"  and Control + Alt + Backspace but it started regularly with graphics
[18:26] <jcn>   is that normal
[18:26] <jcn>   ?
[18:26] <m-c> studente: macs tend to be a more closed hardware solution.  no surprise
[18:26] <fde> TheOV: How old is the machine? That takes about 2-3 mins on a 2.8ghz pentium d
[18:26] <iuri> hi there. what is the name of the file that hold users information such as homedir
[18:26] <studente> m-c: got you
[18:27] <Rob76> wastedyouth: maybe try typing "gnome-panel" in a terminal?
[18:27] <TheOV> fde: 1999 (300mhz, 64mb ram)
[18:27] <Dillizar> Catslacks: waht is the problem
[18:27] <Catslacks> Dillizar: I can't get my wireless going.
[18:27] <m-c> boozkachu: yes, ubuntu is not an uncommon solution for community computer rooms
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> wastedyouth What were you doing when you lost panels
[18:27] <fde> TheOV: Hmm, that may explain it... also explains your use of the alternate cd  :D
[18:27] <Flannel> iuri: There is no single file, it's a bunch of files in their homedir
[18:27] <Dillizar> are you now on the ubuntu Catslacks
[18:27] <PdUb101> hi guys, i was wondering if it was possible to set a key binding in Compiz fusion that will allow me to rotate the cube to the left by pressing a single key??
[18:27] <jyro> i also recently lost the panel
[18:27] <Catslacks> Dillizar: Yes.
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> wastedyouth Which release/distro are you using
[18:27] <wastedyouth> It was doing an update and told me to do a partial upgrade
[18:27] <studente> studente: Make me clear, how is this possible the correct boot of another OS works like a charm on MS than?
[18:27] <iuri> Flannel, so how to change the user homedir ?
[18:27] <fde> PdUb101: sure.
[18:27] <ron> how can i use apt on 6.10
[18:27] <boozkachu> m-c: ok, how about running Direct X games under Ubuntu, is it fairly straight forward to setup?
[18:27] <wastedyouth> I am using Hardy
[18:28] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Yeah permissions are set right.
[18:28] <Dillizar> how are ya now connected to the internet Catslacks and you are on 8.04
[18:28] <jyro> i have the same problem as wastedyouth i believe.  here is the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/15828/
[18:28] <studente> m-c: They're maybe way more closed than Apple itself...
[18:28] <jcn> Hello, Lutha helped me absolutly nicely but now he is afk, I need help to deactivate Xorg and install Nvidia9600GT driver, I'm on gnome I did "ps axu |grep gdm"  and Control + Alt + Backspace but it started regularly with graphics
[18:28] <jcn>   is that normal
[18:28] <jcn>   ?  I NEED HELP TO DEACTIVATE XORG PLS
[18:28] <FloodBot3> jcn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <usser> iuri, /etc/passwd dont modify it directly though there utils to do that
[18:28] <dhamma> how come cfdisk sees all my partitions on /dev/sdb, but gparted doesn't?
[18:28] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: maybe reboot needed
[18:28] <Catslacks> Dillizar: I am on 8.04, and I am connected through an ethernet cable to my router
[18:28] <m-c> boozkachu: no, not straight forward at all!  directx purposefully does not support ubuntu
[18:28] <Mousey> aahh! ubuntu.com is down!
[18:28] <PdUb101> fde, where and how would i go about setting that up??
[18:28] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: I'll try that out right after this song. :D
[18:28] <fde> jcn: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop <-- will turn off x... replace stop with start when you wish to use it again.
[18:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jcn Do you mean stop X in order to install your driver?
[18:28] <Flannel> iuri: What are you trying to do?  Just change whatever files you want to change.
[18:28] <Mousey> ubuntu.com's still down. =(
[18:29] <Dillizar> dunno bout desktop but i think i can help you
[18:29] <acp_> hi I would jus like to confirm if ubuntu site having a problem?
[18:29] <boozkachu> m-c: would it be feasible to use WINE for Direct X games?
[18:29] <Mousey> acp_: it's down!
[18:29] <Dillizar> dunno bout desktop but i think i can help you Catslacks
[18:29] <Jack_Sparrow> boozkachu no
[18:29]  * MatthewV is Away, Reason: ( bed time for me Zzzzz.. ) | Since: ( Friday, May 30, 2008. 20:22:14 ) Xlack v2.1
[18:29] <shadowman> down
[18:29] <Mousey> The MySQL error was: Lost connection to MySQL server during query.
[18:29] <Mousey> Currently, the username is dp_ubuntu_araza and the database server is iron.canonical.com.
[18:29] <fde> PdUb101: I'm not sure via compizconfig-settings-manager ... I can tell you via gconf?
[18:29] <acp_> Mousey: ok thanks
[18:29] <Catslacks> Dillizar: Okay
[18:29] <Flannel> !away > MatthewV
[18:29] <ChinoRuiz> que onda!!
[18:29] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: is the sudo: unable to resolve host nick-desktop error gone?
[18:29] <Mousey> i think canonical's iron's a little rusted
[18:29] <PdUb101> fde, ok thats fine also
[18:29] <iuri> Flannel, no, i am tring to change the user homedir when it log in
[18:29] <fde> PdUb101: It's the cube plugin if you'd rather use  compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:29] <boozkachu> Jack_Sparrow: Bummer
[18:30] <shadowman> why is ubuntu.com down?
[18:30] <m-c> boozkachu: potentially - but directx is a closed solution.  at best you will only emulate a windows environment.  why not choose to run free software alternatives?
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> boozkachu I dual boot for directx games
[18:30] <Flannel> iuri: So, you want to change the homedir to somewhere else?  What reason, may I ask?
[18:30] <detrate> How do packages make it into ubuntu repositories? / Where can I find out who maintains a package and bug them to update it?
[18:30] <Dillizar> have change the options of the panel Catslacks
[18:30] <iuri> Flannel, i already got. usermod -d :)
[18:30] <iuri> Flannel, thanks anyway
[18:30] <usser> boozkachu, some games work though, like CS:S i get 60-70 fps
[18:30] <Flannel> iuri: Why do you want to change it though?
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> boozkachu there is some work on directx in wine, but I dont know much about it as it is still beta from what I heard
[18:30] <Catslacks> Dillizar: What?
[18:31] <boozkachu> m-c: Jack_Sparrow : I would really like to use Linux, as the licensing cost of windows for this many machines is crazy. Also my clients would want to (expect) to play recent PC games
[18:31] <iuri> to safe time typing all the time i logged
[18:31] <Flannel> detrate: You can view the package information.  In synaptic, or apt-cache show [package]
[18:31] <boozkachu> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks
[18:31] <iuri> Flannel, to safe time typing all the time i logged
[18:31] <Flannel> iuri: What?  How will it save you typing?
[18:31] <Flannel> iuri: ~/ is your home directory
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> boozkachu If they want to run windows games.. they need to pay the windows fees
[18:31] <iuri> cd .../ .../ ../
[18:31] <Dillizar> Catslacks: on one of the panels you have network connectiviti
[18:31] <detrate> thanks Flannel
[18:31] <shadowman> kubuntu.com is not down
[18:31] <usser> iuri, there are shortcuts
[18:31] <iuri> hehehe
[18:31] <iuri> nevermind
[18:31] <Mousey> UBUNTU.COM STILL DOWN!!!!
[18:31] <usser> iuri, ^^^
[18:31]  * Mousey cries!!
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Mousey Lose the caps.. thanks
[18:31] <iuri> the user here was created without homedir
[18:32] <ottoshmidt> I have ubuntu and Xp on different HDDs and boot from BIOS in wich I' like
[18:32] <Mousey> Jack_Sparrow: i was yelling
[18:32] <fde> PdUb101: I don't have the key memorized, and Ubuntu doesn't set it by default... 'sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager' and look at the cube plugin.
[18:32] <fde> PdUb101: It's really easy to set up...
[18:32] <keops> can someone help me with a problem with vbox?
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps | Mousey
[18:32] <iuri> Flannel, so every time i log it goes to /
[18:32] <ottoshmidt> is this way a good one?
[18:32] <iuri> Flannel, witohut any permissions
[18:32] <m-c> boozkachu: you seem to be missing the reason why your licensing costs are so high, it is because you are in a closed solution.  directx puts you in a similar situation
[18:32] <Aragorn> Mousey: yer hurtin mah ears!!!
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> keops vbox has a channel
[18:32] <Mousey> ooo, using caps!!
[18:32] <Rob76> Mousey: its okay dude.. the world is still spinning...
[18:32] <dhamma> i need to reinstall hardy, but the install disk doesn't see my existing partition table!
[18:32] <PdUb101> fde, ok great thanks ill take a look
[18:32] <fde> PdUb101: Sorry I couldn't be more helpful... they changed the config on me.
[18:33] <atlef> keops: what seems to be the problem?
[18:33] <wastedyouth> WHen I try to apt-get install gnome panel I see The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-about: Depends: gnome-desktop-data (= 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu1) but 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[18:33] <wastedyouth> E: Broken packages
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> dhamma sudo fdisk -l show them?
[18:33] <boozkachu> Does anyone here play recent PC games under Linux, i mean things like CS Source etc
[18:33] <lmosher> Can anyone offer some support: My laptop won't boot on any 2.6.24 kernel (but will boot 2.6.22 just fine)?
[18:33] <keops> http://pastebin.com/m19d53d6b
[18:33] <keops> there is the problem
[18:33] <zippytech> where casn i find sources for ubuntu 6.10 so i can use apt
[18:33] <wastedyouth> I think I had a hardy proposed in my sources and now it is gone
[18:33] <surmandal> hi.all
[18:33] <david_bren1> hi people
[18:33] <Mousey> hello.you
[18:33] <david_bren1> i dloaded the ubuntu
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> wastedyouth I was going to say sounds like you were changing some sources.
[18:34] <usser> boozkachu, im afraid cs:s is not recent anymore, go to winehq.com for the list of games that work in linux
[18:34] <dhamma> Jack_Sparrow: cfdisk shows them, but gparted doesn't...i'm not sure which partition app the install cd uses, but it won't read the table
[18:34] <atlef> keops: have you added yourself to the vboxusers group?
[18:34] <surmandal> can someone tel me how can i build the local repo of multiple distro on ubuntu machine.?
[18:34] <david_bren1> but when the installer loads it drops me in "Busy box"
[18:34] <fde> wastedyouth:  sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade /var/cache/apt/archive/gnome-desktop-data_2.22.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb  <-- copy and paste that into a terminal... then try again if it's successful... tell me if there is an error.
[18:34] <Flannel> wastedyouth: You should disable hardy-proposed
[18:34] <keops> i dont know how
[18:34] <boozkachu> usser: Thanks
[18:34] <keops> that the problem
[18:34] <greenmanspirit_> hey, is there something for gnome that will give you your main menu via clicking on the desktop either with nautilus drawing the desktop or not. I like gnome but would like the menu kind of thing you get with the box window managers
[18:34] <patbam> i'm trying to debug why my network connection is slow on my desktop (ethernet -> wireless router) but not over wireless (this laptop). waht can i do to debug how the desktop is configured?
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> wastedyouth What other repos are in your source list
[18:34] <lmosher> Question#2: Is the ubuntu image updated (i.e. does it have kernel 2.6.24-17?)
[18:34] <fde> wastedyouth: next time please review all packages being removed to ensure it's what you want.
[18:34] <surmandal> help me to set it up
[18:34] <surmandal>  can someone tel me how can i build the local repo of multiple distro on ubuntu machine.?
[18:35] <atlef> keops: under system - administration - user and groups. manage groups and find vboxusers and add yourself
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[18:35] <keops> done
[18:35] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: If you don't mind, I'd like to test this to ensure it works... then I can help more people on the matter... he's the second person now today.
[18:35] <m-c> Where is the Print Queue manager in Ubuntu?
[18:35] <Flannel> !afk > nico|afk
[18:36] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: It'll work provided the ubuntu1 version wasn't what Hardy came with...
[18:36] <surmandal> fde,  pls tell me how can i build the local repo of multiple distro on ubuntu machine.?
[18:36] <wastedyouth> there are two sources listed.. one for hardy and one for sources
[18:36] <keops> but the problem persists
[18:36] <Flannel> fde: hardy came with 2.22.1
[18:36] <studente> well
[18:36] <usser> m-c open webbrowser and type localhost:631 that will take you to the printer manger
[18:36] <Bits> 70% of my ram is being used as "cache"... what does that mean and how can I reduce it...? my laptop is permanently loaded
[18:36] <Flannel> wastedyouth: What others? hardy-updates, hardy-security, and hardy-proposed?
[18:36] <Roughneck_cowboy> re-hello some1 could help me pls    ?
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> fde Go for it
[18:36] <fde> Flannel: Alright cool... I think this is coming from proposed btw
[18:36] <m-c> usser: wow thanks
[18:36] <studente> m-c: Sorry about disturbing, but I wanted to know what do you think...
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> fde People should really not be using proposed
[18:37] <m-c> studente: think about what?  :)
[18:37] <david_bren1> when i boot and try to install it it drops mi in "busy box"...whats the problem ?? does anyone know
[18:37] <wastedyouth> Flannel: those are the only ones I see in third party software
[18:37] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: Agreed... many are because it's the solution for virtualbox though.
[18:37] <Slart> Bits: unused memory is wasted memory.. ubuntu will give it back if anything needs it
[18:37] <Jokka> Does anyone know a good dload progg like dc++? kinda sic of limewire not being able to download folders..
[18:37] <fde> wastedyouth: did you try the command I said?
[18:37] <atlef> keops: have you installed virtualbox-ose-modules-generic?
[18:37] <zippytech> does any know where i can find the sources for 6.10 to use apt
[18:37] <wastedyouth> The force downgrade command?  Yes, it told me I need to specify a package
[18:37] <Flannel> wastedyouth: No, we're not looking in third party software.  Er... what's the URL of that one that is in third party software?
[18:38] <Slart> Bits: or, I should say.. the linux kernel will give it back if something needs it
[18:38] <Lynet> Roughneck_cowboy: If you would tell what your problem is, the chance of someone helping you will increase several orders of magnitude..
[18:38] <keops> no
[18:38] <fde> wastedyouth: You did, so I guess it's not there... grrr... hold on please.
[18:38] <wastedyouth> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[18:38] <Bits> Slart: it seems that my fan is always under load... nothing is running.... this seems a bit inefficien
[18:38] <Bits> *inefficient
[18:38] <dhamma> jack_
[18:38] <studente> m-c: About how so many boot loaders do work with MS windows, but non with Mac, which is more "open" than Microsoft Products :)
[18:38] <dhamma> Jack_Sparrow: ﻿sudo fdisk -l shows the table
[18:38] <wastedyouth> i have everything checked for updates
[18:38] <Slart> Bits: so you'd rather have your memory unused and everything read from the hard drive instead?
[18:38] <Flannel> zippytech: Edgy has reached EOL, you should think about upgrading.  but, old-releases.ubuntu.com should have a repo.  Of course it won't ever change again, since it's frozen.  So you won't get any updates.
[18:39] <Enselic> What is the customary file name format for plain text files in Linux* CAPITALS?
[18:39] <Slart> Bits: keeping stuff in memory is more efficient than keeping it on disk
[18:39] <Chuggst3r> legend2440: Yeah that was fixed when I removed it.
[18:39] <Flannel> studente: that's just BIOS vs EFI, nothing to do with the OS itself
[18:39] <Bits> Slart: ok, thanks, but i'm interested in keeping my heat readings down
[18:39] <m-c> studente: microsoft and linux run on x86 hardware which is extremely open, mac hardware has always been extremely closed, by comparison
[18:39] <Dillizar> why does my ubuntu keeps telling me i have 500MB memory is it cuz my graffic card isnt working?
[18:39] <keops> already installed
[18:39] <atlef> keops: after installing it, log out and in. that should do it
[18:39] <zippytech> i tried but it's an old 700 mhz dell that don't seem to want to load 8 i get busy box
[18:39] <Mousey> ubuntu.com is teh FIXED!! ^_^
[18:39] <usser> Enselic, theres none, u can name plain text files as u please
[18:39] <Mousey> bai!
[18:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dhamma Just checking.. not sure why gparted is not seeing it.. run gparted off the livecd and see if it see things correctly
[18:39] <Roughneck_cowboy> I did   "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop " to stop X    then Ctrl+alt+backspce  and how can I activate my NvidiaDriver9600GT currently on my desktop ?   Am I right or did I made something wrong ????
[18:40] <m-c> studente: the same can be said for the mac osx hardware drivers - all closed
[18:40] <keops> ok but log out the ubuntu or just the vbox?
[18:40] <studente> m-c: Got you
[18:40] <atlef> keops: ubuntu
[18:40] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: Flannel: Do either of you have gnome-desktop-data 2.22.2-0ubuntu1 around? (in /var/cache/apt/archive/) ... it's not in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-desktop/  :(
[18:40] <keops> ok
[18:40] <Enselic> usser: I don't want to come up with something on my own, I'd like to know if there is some accepted "standard"
[18:40] <TheOV> can i still download a 7.10 alternate cd?
[18:41] <studente> m-c: Aren't the Intel procesors implemented in Mc x86 now?
[18:41] <wastedyouth> Wait, I typed the force downgrade command wrong... sorry I'm a newb let me try the whole command this time
[18:41] <Flannel> TheOV: yep.  releases.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <Slart> Bits: you do what you want.. it's your laptop.. I think there is a swapiness setting somewhere in the /proc/ tree to control how the kernel manages memory
[18:41] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: Flannel: The issue is that gnome-panel depends gnome-about which depends on that version... so is broken
[18:41] <studente> TheOV: Yes
[18:41] <Lynet> !nvidia | Roughneck_cowboy
[18:41] <Dillizar> TheOV: the web isnt working :P but yes
[18:41] <Aragorn> is hardy heron worth foolin' with ?
[18:41] <Bits> what's soffice.bin? Slart: thanks, i'll look into it
[18:41] <m-c> studente: are you using a x86 architecture for your mac software?  I thought you were asking about linux on mac hardware
[18:41] <TheOV> fde: yeah the storing languages has now been running for an hour
[18:41] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: Flannel: Unfortunately people went ahead and removed things because the package manager tried to and they didn't check into it.
[18:41] <Dillizar> ues Aragorn
[18:41] <Flannel> fde: downgrade to a non-proposed version.  2.22.1-0ubuntu6.1 (that's in updates, I believe, -0ubuntu6 is in hardy)
[18:41] <usser> Enselic, not really, there are no standard as far as i know text files that contain important info like README or INSTALL or LICENSE are usually capitalized other than that theres no convention
[18:41] <Dillizar> yes Aragorn
[18:41] <Jack_Sparrow> fde So this is only for people trying to upgrade vbox?
[18:41] <Slart> Bits: here's a link about it http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000
[18:42] <shadowman> ubuntu.com is back
[18:42] <wastedyouth>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[18:42] <wastedyouth> Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:42] <wastedyouth>  /var/cache/apt/archive/gnome-desktop-data_2.22.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[18:42] <MrObvious> Bits: It's the installer for Open Office. There are already prepackaged versions in the repos for it.
[18:42] <Slart> Bits: it's open office
[18:42] <MrObvious> !pastebin | wastedyouth
[18:42] <Enselic> usser: ok, thanks
[18:42] <david_bren1> when i boot and try to install it it drops mi in #busy box"? can someone help
[18:42] <keops> atlef thanks
[18:42] <keops> it works
[18:42] <Bits> Slart: MrObvious: thanks
[18:42] <atlef> keops: good
[18:42] <MrObvious> Bits: YW.
[18:42] <Flannel> fde: use pinning, don't use dpkg.  That way you'll just grab it from the repos, and you don't care what versions he has in his cache
[18:42] <Slart> Bits: I think there is a setting to disable the "have office run in the background to speed it up" thingy
[18:42] <wastedyouth> ubottu: thankyou I will learn to use it asap
[18:42] <recon69> configure cant find freetype2 , but I'v installed libftt2 , it says installed version is 1.4pre , do I need to get it elsewhere
[18:42] <studente> m-c: I'm using an Intel based CPU on my macbook
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> david_bren1 At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[18:42] <keops> it says that i dont have a 64bits supporter processor but i do
[18:42] <fde> Flannel: Jack_Sparrow: From outputs I've seen, gnome-about depends an explicit version of gnome-desktop-data (2.22.2-0ubuntu1 rather than ubuntu2) ... it can't be over or under.
[18:43] <m-c> studente: then why ask how to create a usb boot for ubuntu on a mac ?
[18:43] <Slart> Bits: start open office and check the preferences.. or options.. or whatever it's called
[18:43] <keops> i had installed the 64bits version
[18:43] <Jack_Sparrow> fde But is this only for people running vbox
[18:43] <tucuna> is a wubi installation of hardy as good as a "normal" install: yes or nor¿
[18:43] <Flannel> fde: 2.22.2 vs 2.22.1, the .1 is in the repos, .2 is in -proposed, which should *not* be used, and obviously has a packaging error as well.
[18:43] <m-c> studente: oh, do you mean how do it within the osx operating system?
[18:43] <Jack_Sparrow> tucuna not in my opion
[18:43] <Jack_Sparrow> opinion
[18:43] <atlef> keops: it doesn't support 64bit guests
[18:43] <keops> oh
[18:43] <keops> i see
[18:43] <fde> Jack_Sparrow: Yes... VirtualBox in hardy is broken since kernel -17 without hardy-proposed enabled.
[18:43] <Flannel> tucuna: As far as usage, yes.  You get a tiny bit of a performance penalty with disk IO.  as far as robustness and stuff, no.
[18:44]  * m-c troubleshoots why a print job does not go from the application to the queue.
[18:44] <Slart> Bits: in options, OpenOffice.org, Memory there is a "Enable systray Quickstarter"... make sure it's disabled
[18:44] <Aragorn> Dillizar: thanx
[18:44] <rawmeat> how can i change the resolution for my x3100 intel gpu - i use a 14,1" TFT display lenovo T61. .. max res is 1024x768, i want 1280x1024 :(
[18:44] <Bits> Slart: any command that i can use to clear cache?
[18:44] <fde> Flannel: no... just 2.22.2-0ubuntu1 ...
[18:44] <MrObvious> !resolution | rawmeat
[18:44] <usser> fde, thats cause -17 is in hardy proposed
[18:44] <fde> usser: yes... that's what I said  :P
[18:44] <Dillizar> lol Aragorn
[18:44] <Flannel> fde: 2.22.2-0ubuntu1 might *not* exist
[18:44] <m-c> !printer
[18:45] <TheOV> fde: YAY!! storing languages just finished!!!
[18:45] <tucuna> Jack_Sparrow - Flannel: wubi or resize disk with important windows data/installation to install: which would you choose?
[18:45] <Flannel> tucuna:
[18:46] <cameronh> are there any daemons for ubuntu that can maintain NAT port mappings on a UPnP/IGD router?
[18:46] <MrObvious> Flannel: lol
[18:46] <shifter_> How i can apply a patch of the wine?
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tucuna resize partition every time
[18:46] <Flannel> tucuna: If you're not comfortable dealing with partitions, use wubi to try out Ubuntu, but it's not really a long term solution.  If you enjoy Ubuntu, plan on reinstalling at some point with a real install
[18:46] <recon69> ﻿rawmeat: check sys->prefs->screen res , it that dont have the screen size you want check sys->admin->hardware drivers and see if you got restricted drivers avaiable
[18:46] <MrObvious> cameronh: I would just manually port forward. uPnP isn't secure and manually port mapping isn't hard at all.
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> shifter_ /join #winehq
[18:46] <flobbo> Hello everybody, I am having trouble getting my 3 monitors to work correctly in ubuntu 8.04
[18:46] <Dillizar> how can i reinstall the flash of the mozilla
[18:46] <livingdaylight> hola
[18:47] <MrObvious> !upnp > MrObvious
[18:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[18:47] <livingdaylight> can someone help me understnad /work podcast?
[18:47] <livingdaylight> i try to feed rhythmbox http://spanishpod.com/lessons/feed but i get error message
[18:47] <guffe> Need a quick tip. Have set up to high resolution on an account in edubuntu. Is there a way to change this in terminal from another admin account?
[18:47] <detrate> "PulseAudio is now enabled by default. Some non-GNOME applications still need to be changed to output to pulse/esd by default and the volume control tools are not yet integrated."
[18:47] <detrate> "to output pulse/esd by default"
[18:47] <detrate> Can someone clarify that for me?
[18:48] <legend2440> Chuggst3r: have yor read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=559039
[18:48] <cameronh> MrObvious: the router in question has a habit of 'forgetting' DHCP reservations
[18:48] <MrObvious> guffe: I would modify the xorg.conf so it is available. Also maybe setting up VNC wouldn't hurt.
[18:48] <Slart> Bits: I can't really find anything on reducing size of disk buffers... it's not really a common thing to do
[18:48] <m-c> oh, I see in the ubuntuforums.org that the Lexmark printers have terrible Linux support.  Off to kinkos for me!  ;)
[18:48] <MrObvious> !resolution | guffe
[18:48] <MrObvious> !vnc | guffe
[18:48] <flobbo> why do the top and bottom panels expand across 2 monitors once I have all 3 running? it's confusing.
[18:48] <Dillizar> Jack_Sparrow reinstall?
[18:48] <m-c> Good luck getting your issues resolved, all.
[18:48] <MrObvious> cameronh: I would get a new router or if it is capable put DD-WRT on it. My Linksys WRT54G works wonders with DD-WRT.
[18:48] <tucuna> Flannel - Jack Sparrow: I agree, just wanted comments. I use gnu/linux since red hat 7.1, but i am working in the amazon and have little time to install Ubuntu on a computer that indigenous people use in an office (and i won't be back here in another 12 months) - so am curious to know what ppl think of wubi - anyway, thx, will probably do a gparted resize
[18:49] <cameronh> MrObvious: well my router is a DD-WRT router :D but unfortunately this router isn't mine (i wouldn't deal with such a shoddy appliance ;))
[18:49] <Chrysalis> hey, i am trying to make a script executable by using 'chmod a+x .file' is that command right because when i go to sessions to add it the script doesnt show up in the browser.
[18:49] <guffe> Thanks...
[18:49] <PdUb101> can anyone recommend a good theme editor, or something i can use to apply themes in hardy?
[18:49] <livingdaylight> can someone hlep me with podcast in rhythmbox?
[18:50] <MrObvious> cameronh: lol... Hmm. DD-WRT works great here. I'm not sure why you would be having problems like that. :\
[18:50] <Lynet> livingdaylight: If you would tell us what exactly doesn't work. Sure..
[18:50] <TheOV> PdUb101: gnome-appearance-properties?
[18:50] <cameronh> MrObvious: my DD-WRT works fine, but the router in question isn't mine and doesn't have dd-wrt
[18:50] <Bits> Slart: what do you think about vadim's post @ http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/4641/
[18:50] <MrObvious> cameronh: Oh. Well fix that first. :p
[18:51] <flobbo> any help with a 3 monitor 2 video card x server configuration?
[18:51] <zippytech> what do you do when you boot to a busy box?
[18:51] <Flannel> tucuna: One large problem with wubi is the lack of robustness, if windows goes down, your Ubuntu goes down
[18:51] <cameronh> MrObvious: well considering it's some silly ISP provided appliance, i'll probably just have to write my own thing to maintain port mappings
[18:51] <livingdaylight> Lynet: i put in a feed and got errors
[18:52] <tucuna> Flannel - but only during install?
[18:52] <Lynet> livingdaylight: *what* errors.
[18:52] <PdUb101> TheOV, ive been trying to get that to work? and for some reason when i download a theme, and install it, it doesn't show up on my desktop/panels?
[18:52] <Slart> Bits: if it's nautilus hanging on to memory when it's not needed it's bad.. if the disk buffer cache being used then it's good..
[18:52] <MrObvious> cameronh: DMZ? :p
[18:52] <studente> m-c: Exacly
[18:52] <Bits> Slart: it worked.
[18:52] <Slart> Bits: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-255714.html
[18:52] <Bits> Slart: that command cleared all the memory that was in cache
[18:53] <Flannel> tucuna: What?  No.  All the time.  Wubi installs live inside a file on your Windows system
[18:53] <duude> hello duuuds
[18:53] <Lynet> !hello | duude
[18:53] <Slart> Bits: read that url.. it should clear up some things concerning buffers in linux
[18:53] <TheOV> PdUb101: when you install the theme, you have to select it in gnome-appearance properties. The theme may not show up as a complete theme, so then you would have to click "Customize", and find the theme in the "Controls" tab
[18:53] <studente> m-c: Exacly
[18:53] <livingdaylight> Lynet: Problem occured without error being set this is a bug in rhythmbox
[18:54] <partner> i just bought an msi k9ngm4 v2 mobo and it has a regular telephone jack on it and im trying to set up a dail up connection but vista says there is no network adapter, i know this is ubuntu but this is the only place i know of to ask for help
[18:54] <Flannel> tucuna: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekhardy/Wubi might be good reading
[18:54] <duude> how are You doing, tell me something about your evening
[18:54] <PdUb101> TheOV, ok ill try it out, thanks for the input!
[18:54] <tucuna> Flannel - oh dear, i thought it was just an easy way to install it :-/
[18:54] <MrObvious> partner: Put Ubuntu on it? :P
[18:54] <TheOV> partner: ##windows? :D
[18:54] <livingdaylight> Lynet: http://spanishpod.com/lessons/feed
[18:54] <flobbo> Help! :(
[18:54] <Lynet> livingdaylight: You make absolutely no sense to me. What is your native language?
[18:55] <Kl4m> !ask
[18:55] <Cyndrework> Hi, just installed ubuntu at work but I have a problem.  One website I need access to keeps redirecting me to netscape.htm with firefox.  I downloaded a user agent changer, and I am still being redirected.    Error console in firefox shows me this -> http://pastebin.com/m144b24d   Can someone help me get this working?
[18:55] <livingdaylight> Lynet: what do you not understand?
[18:55] <Lynet> !es | livingdaylight
[18:55] <MrObvious> partner: In all seriousness, we don't do Windows support so you will have to try somewhere else. I will PM you a good website that has great support forums even though it is an overclocking website.
[18:55] <tucuna> [21:08] <xivulon> How does Wubi work?
[18:55] <tucuna> [21:08] <xivulon> Many think it is a virtual machine or similar
[18:55] <tucuna> [21:08] <xivulon> It is not
[18:55] <tucuna> [21:09] <xivulon> It is a 100% real installation
[18:55] <Flannel> tucuna: well, it is.  But yeah, it sits inside windows, and you can remove it with add/remove.  As far as booting and stuff, it boots normally.  It's just less robust due to it living inside NTFS, so if windows has FS corruption, so does your Ubuntu
[18:55] <FloodBot3> tucuna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <greenmanspirit_> is there any way to link your gnome main menu to openbox?
[18:55] <livingdaylight> Lynet: but i'm speaking to you in english?
[18:55] <k5ehx> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download  < page is broken user warning: Table 'drupal_ubuntu2.mirror_list' doesn't exist query: select mirror_list.location, mirror_list.name, mirror_list.link, mirror_countries.countryname, mirror_countries.continent, 1 as 'o' from mirror_list left join ...
[18:55] <Roughneck_cowboy> well I just need some help to install my video driver anyone ?
[18:56] <Lynet> livingdaylight: *WHAT* error? *WHAT* doesn't work?
[18:56] <livingdaylight> Lynet: when i put the feed i shoed you: http://spanishpod.com/lessons/feed i get the error i described
[18:56] <flobbo> Roughneck_cowboy: what's the problem?
[18:56] <MrObvious> partner: Hopefully you got it.
[18:56] <Flannel> tucuna: the bootloader boots to Ubuntu, and Ubuntu runs natively (with a small performance hit due to the loopback of the FS)
[18:56] <krix> \o/ hey.
[18:56] <ue> After updating to Ubuntu Hardy, I get mouse lag/spikes from time to time (using an usb logitech vx revolution mouse), any solutions to this ?
[18:56] <tucuna> Flannel - ok, great thx, clearly not what I want to use!
[18:57] <tucuna> but tempting
[18:57] <tucuna> :)
[18:57] <livingdaylight> Lynet: ﻿(18:53:58) livingdaylight: Lynet: Problem occured without error being set this is a bug in rhythmbox
[18:57] <livingdaylight> Lynet: that is the error message i'm getting
[18:57] <Bits> Slart: then it seems my computer is just running hot (time for a dusting i guess)... how to control fan is now a new issue
[18:57] <Kl4m> Cyndrework: Simply put, this website is broken. Try disabling javascript
[18:58] <Roughneck_cowboy> flobbo
[18:58] <Slart> Bits: some fans can be controlled by software.. if you know what chipsets are involved..
[18:58] <adac> is there a deb for grails?
[18:58] <flobbo> yes?
[18:58] <Roughneck_cowboy> I sent u a private messge
[18:58] <Cyndrework> Kl4m: will try that - hopefully they don't use js for navigation
[18:58] <Slart> Bits: I would search the ubuntu forums for your laptop model and manufacturer to see if anyone else has had the same problems.. there might be a finished solution out there for you
[18:58] <livingdaylight> Lynet: cual es tu idioma?
[18:59] <Lynet> livingdaylight: *when*? When you add the feed to rhythmbox? When you update the feed? When you try to download an episode from the feed?
[18:59] <livingdaylight> si preferias puedemos hablar en espanol?
[18:59] <Slart> !es | livingdaylight
[18:59] <livingdaylight> Lynet: i said: wheni add the feed to rhythmbox
[18:59] <Bits> Slart: thanks, am running an a8js and looking at forums now
[18:59] <Kl4m> Cyndrework: That's a really stupid way to check for browser. It was bound to break in the future.
[18:59] <Cyndrework> Kl4m: Any other suggestions?  They use js to handle login
[18:59] <Lynet> livingdaylight: Feed works fine for me in rhythmbox, just tested.
[18:59] <livingdaylight> Lynet: i add the feed in rhythmbox under podcast and i get that error when i try to play one of the podcasts
[18:59] <krammer_> how can upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10 i tried the update manager
[19:00] <livingdaylight> Lynet: that is really not fair :(
[19:00] <bobboy> my icons are not installing correctly
[19:01] <livingdaylight> Lynet: i'm not so familiar with podcasts is there another alternative, coz i'm getting errors from rhythmbox
[19:01] <Kl4m> Cyndrework: I'm looking for a way (interesting problem...)
[19:01] <Lynet> livingdaylight: Do other .mp3 files play back ok in rhythmbox?
[19:02] <krammer_> how can upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10 i tried the update manager
[19:02] <Slart> !upgrade | krammer_
[19:02] <Cyndrework> Kl4m:  Even more intresting is the fact that this is our web access for our billing system thats giving me the problem lol
[19:02] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Hi. Something strange with "Network Settings" app at me. I've PPPoE ADSL modem. After adding proper settings to the connection manager the connection won't start. The checkbox just disappears after blinking. But I remember it worked perfectly with Ubuntu Live CD. ppoeconf tool works but i want GUI :D. by the way nm-applet doesn't show connection information...
[19:03] <livingdaylight> Lynet: well, my audio files (music) did play, but actually right now i see that i'm not getting any sound
[19:03] <livingdaylight> this ubuntu is the most borked system i've ever installed on my laptop
[19:04] <Cyndrework> livingdaylight: Sorry to hear that.  My experience was the exact opposite.  So far its the only os that I have installed on multiple computers with no issues
[19:04] <jyro> Can someone please help me fix a broken dependency?  The error is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15828/
[19:05] <Grim76__> jyro: try a different mirror.  Looks like the mirror that you are using is out of sync.
[19:05] <diefordethklok> My microphone doesn't seem to be working in ubuntu, help. I am new btw.
[19:05] <krammer_> I felt borked as well, but then I realized i didnt know the system as much as I wanted too
[19:05] <stefo> hi all unix users!!!
[19:06] <krammer_> hi
[19:06] <recon69> ﻿Cyndrework: have to say, after 2 good years on 6.06 I went to 8.04 , while somethings are much improved I'v had many problems and some still on going, the only reason I changed was to get wireless net access.
[19:06] <bobboy> my icons are not installing/loading correctly
[19:06] <jyro> My broken dependency error is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15840/
[19:07] <bradley> hi room
[19:07] <sepski> how would i lower the xorg depth from whatever autodetected ? to 16 so i can get higer resolution on a low mem grafic card. xorg.conf contains very little.
[19:07] <quentusrex> Could someone help me debug my webserver? I'm trying to run ISPConfig, but I think my server borked something.
[19:07] <thepunisher> wats more robust wubi or vbox?
[19:07] <diefordethklok> Can anyone help me on getting my headset mircrophone to work?
[19:08] <Grim76__> jyro: What mirror are you using for updates?  It looks like you have one that is not sync'd up.  You might want to change mirrors to see if the dep error resolves itself.
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> thepunisher they are nothing alike
[19:08] <thepunisher> for an ubuntu test
[19:08] <keops> do someone have a valid windows xp sp2 serial?
[19:08] <Slart> !warez | keops
[19:08] <Cyndrework> recon69: So far my experience with ubuntu has been better then with windows xp and windows vista (up till this week only used linux for servers)
[19:08] <atlef> thepunisher: vbox
[19:08] <diefordethklok> thepunisher: wubi is an actual install, vbox is virtualization
[19:08] <jyro> grim76__: I'm not using the default mirror.  I didn't think of that.  Let me see if changing works.
[19:09] <atlef> thepunisher: but you can run the livecd as well
[19:09] <avenged-revenge> i'm looking at building an HTPC with mythbuntu. Should I get an nvidia or ati card? which has better support in linux
[19:09] <Kl4m> sepski: change the line  Defaultdepth    24 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:09] <diefordethklok> nvidia
[19:09] <Grim76__> jyro: Ok
[19:09] <atlef> !livecd > thepunisher:
[19:09] <thepunisher> !livecd
[19:09] <Pxrbot> hi everyone :) could i get some help from someone about broadcom wireless in laptops?
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[19:10] <Cyndrework> avenged-revenge: Fresh install with nvidia driver (no hassles) enabled extra desktop appearance, told me I needed a driver, asked if I wanted to install it and it was done
[19:10] <Pxrbot> thanks jack, il give it a looksee :)
[19:10] <flobbo> ok, I am trying to run 3 monitors with 2 nvidia cards and I am having problems getting this configured correctly. Can anyone help me? Please?
[19:10] <Cyndrework> flobbo google nvidia-settings ubuntu
[19:10] <blue-frog> Pxrbot: problem?
[19:10] <recon69> ﻿jyro : you could try uninstalled  gnome-desktop-data ( 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu1) and install  1:2.22.2-0ubuntu2 instead , but god know what you might break
[19:11] <naxa> hi. can you help me. network manager is frustrating. I am very annoyed with it. something why i would turn off ubuntu actually... is there alternate
[19:11] <mitchell> hello i need help
[19:11] <flobbo> Cyndrework: been there, done that.
[19:11] <Cyndrework> flobbo: once you install nvidia-settings (cant remember if it was yum or apt) its simple
[19:11] <thepunisher> how long does it take to resize ntfs?
[19:11] <flobbo> Cyndrework: yes, I am up to the point where I have all 3 screens running.
[19:11] <avenged-revenge> Cyndrework: thanks.
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> thepunisher The fuller it is.. the longer it will take
[19:12] <avenged-revenge> can anyone else chime in? nvidia vs ati on ubuntu?
[19:12] <Cyndrework> flobbo: okay, how do you have them setup?
[19:12] <flobbo> Cyndrework: the problem is that x is running slow and the top and bottom panels expand across 2 screens once the 3rd monitor is activated.
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> avenged-revenge nvidia
[19:12] <atlef> !ask > mitchell:
[19:12] <jyro> Grim76__: That was indeed the problem.  Thanks!
[19:12] <Grim76__> jyro: Not a problem.
[19:12] <varaonaid> hi, i'm installing ubuntu on a laptop and it won't boot at all - hangs at "running local boot scripts"
[19:12] <spoown> hello all !!
[19:12] <avenged-revenge> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[19:13] <philsf> is it possible to leave kio-pop3 running if kmail/kontact is not?
[19:13] <TheOV> varaonaid: hit enter when that happens
[19:13] <flobbo> Cyndrework: 2 screens hooked up to 7900gtx, 1 screen hooked up to 8600gts. expansion of panels is not wanted and x server slow down is not wanted, lol, obviously.
[19:13] <PdUb101> TheOV, where would i find the gnome-appearance properties at??
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> avenged-revenge Just my opinion...
[19:13] <mitchell> everytime i start dowloading something and i leave it overnight i find my pc without network and I cannot even ping my modem!! can someone point this problem cause i hate giving restarts + finding undownloaded things! I use hoary
[19:13] <misterwoody> Hi *. Is it possible to install ubuntu using a network connection (instead of a cd)?
[19:13] <varaonaid> TheOV: that doesn't seem to do anything
[19:13] <recon69> ﻿naxa: you could try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 , buts it's quite technical . I think there is a GUI alternative to network manager but i forget it's name wii2 or somthing
[19:14] <atlef> !install > misterwoody:
[19:14] <avenged-revenge> Jack_Sparrow: I've heard people saying that nvidia's software is much better but I just wanted to see if people agreed
[19:14] <varaonaid> i can get to a prompt but when i try to startx it says that no screen configuration can be found
[19:14] <angasule_> !realmedia
[19:14] <slacker_> a good page of themes for ubuntu ?
[19:14] <angasule_> !realplayer
[19:14] <Cyndrework> flobbo: not sure about the third monitor - but Im using the 8600 gts with 1440x900 dual monitor - 2 seperate x screens and I noticed the x slowdown in 1 x screen but not the other
[19:14] <slacker_> ?? themes
[19:14] <rawmeat> ﻿ rawmeat: how can i change the resolution for my x3100 intel gpu - i use a 14,1" TFT display lenovo T61. .. max res is 1024x768, i want 1280x1024, also tried the 915resolution hack, didnt worked either. :(
[19:14] <atlef> slacker_: gnome art
[19:14] <spoown> I'm using a xen vm, and resolving name , dosn't work !! I put in resolv.conf the name of dns server, but don't seems to work, any idea ? (I can ping the dns server and it's work from the dom0 )
[19:14] <TheOV> slacker_: art.gnome.org
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[19:15] <mitchell> hello i have a problem::::everytime i start dowloading something and i leave it overnight i find my pc without network and I cannot even ping my modem!! can someone point this problem cause i hate giving restarts + finding undownloaded things! I use hoary
[19:15] <Pici> mitchell: Hoary? or Hardy?
[19:15] <flobbo> Cyndrework: the weird part is that when only the 2 main screens are running the way I want them too everything is fine., activating the 3rd one screws it up.
[19:15] <MrBashir> Is there a graphical user interface available for VSFTPD?
[19:15] <varaonaid> so does anyone know how I can get a working screen configuration?  I already use ubuntu on other computers and really don't want to have to switch distros :(
[19:15] <slacker_> thanks atlef and TheOV
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> mitchell  in terminal   lsb_release -a
[19:16] <PdUb101> hi guys im having a horrible time getting themes to install on ubuntu hardy
[19:16] <Psychlo> shouldn`t xubuntu mount my other partitions by default?
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !res | verruckt
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !res | varaonaid
[19:16] <achandrashekar> anyone have experience authenticating linux boxes to samba pdc?
[19:16] <Cyndrework> flobbo: have you tried running 1 screen per card?  or two on one card and enabling the third on a seperate card?
[19:16] <svensko> http://digg.com/pc_games/Warsow_0_4_The_greatest_FREE_game_you_ve_never_played
[19:17] <ron_> what do you do with a busybox?
[19:17] <studente> m-c
[19:17] <svensko> looking for a few open source game that runs natively in ubuntu? check this out!
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> svensko Please dont do that in here.. though we are happy for you
[19:17] <mitchell> PIci: Ubuntu 8.04
[19:17] <flobbo> Cyndrework: 7900GTX = 2 Monitors, 8600GTS = 1 Monitor.
[19:18] <ron_> do you have 2 monitors working
[19:18] <flobbo> Cyndrework: I have 2 video cards and the "bigger" one holds the 2 main screens.
[19:18] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: Hi.  Yeah, I can't even boot into gnome because it hangs and can't find a usable screen config
[19:18] <Psychlo> shouldn`t xubuntu mount all my partitions by default?
[19:18] <Cyndrework> flobbo: have you tried getting 1 monitor working on each card yet?
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid What video card
[19:18] <ronnie> gotting 7900gtx on linux...cool..really cool...how rich..
[19:19] <mitchell> Jack_Sparrow: what is that?
[19:19] <keops> why not to the piracy?
[19:19] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: Via Unichrome
[19:19] <flobbo> Cyndrework: interesting, haven't tried that. Just 2 on one card which works perfectly.
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> mitchell  in terminal   lsb_release -a               shows what release you are using..
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !unichrome
[19:19] <Pici> keops: Because its illegal.
[19:20] <keops> but arent we suposed to fight windows and their monopoly
[19:20] <keops> ?
[19:20] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: I was able to do an apt-get from the term during boot to be sure that the unichrome drivers are installed and they already were
[19:20] <mitchell> Jack_Sparrow: ye i know but thats not my problem I use the last one the hardy
[19:20] <philsf> I just plugged my monitor in my laptop, and got it working with the same output. how can I use the monitor as an extension?
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> keops Please dont
[19:20] <keops> ok
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> mitchell I only posted that as you got the name of a much older release in your first post
[19:21] <cygoku> Is everybody else having problem fetching updates right now ?
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid vesa will get you 1024x768 just no effects
[19:21] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: how do I force vesa?
[19:21] <DJones> cygoku: I've just upgraded 2 machines with no problems getting the updates, only took a few seconds
[19:22] <mitchell> Jack_Sparrow: i know sorry mate I was wrong mate! I'm using hardy
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:22] <Aragorn> isnt feisty faun supposed to expire or something ?
[19:22] <MrBashir> Who knows a FTPserver that has a graphical interface?
[19:22] <mitchell> Jack_Sparrow: can u tackle my prob?
[19:22] <philsf> I just plugged my monitor in my laptop, and got it working with the same output. how can I use the monitor as an extension?
[19:22] <obf213> anybody else had to start ubuntu a rediculous amount of times for 8.04. i'd say 30 percent of the time i suspend i get an error like keyboard not working on resume or totally black screen adn i have to restart
[19:22] <Myrtti> Aragorn: it will do so in due time
[19:22] <ron_> gproftpd
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max res.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[19:23] <obf213> philsf, you can't
[19:23] <Aragorn> Myrtti: is there of yet a specified date
[19:23] <imagine> j maroc
[19:23] <philsf> obf213: oh :(
[19:23] <MrBashir> ron_: Ill check that one out :)
[19:23] <obf213> philsf, i've been trying for weeks, everything i do just screws up the laptop resolution and u have reconfigure xserver its  a pain
[19:23] <obf213> philsf, you used to be able to
[19:23] <atlef> 466oiepp
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> mitchell are you dialup dsl or cable
[19:23] <ron_> works good quick and easy
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mitchell wired or wireless
[19:24] <philsf> obf213: what changed?
[19:24] <ron_> use synaptics
[19:24] <Myrtti> Aragorn: 18 months after the release, if I remember correctly
[19:24] <cygoku> DJones, are you also updating using backported and proposed updates ?? Because here I have the same problem on 2 machines ... I had 42 updates this morning but only 14 were fetchable.
[19:24] <obf213> philsf, dunno have you tried the resolutions screen. maybe it will work on your laptop i dunno
[19:24] <mitchell> Jack_Sparrow: i use dsl wired
[19:24] <wastedyouth> Okay, I added proposed back to my sources and and found a new update.  One it was installed I was able to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and now my panels are back
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Aragorn yes there is a specific year month
[19:24] <KOJV> Noone with experience of i8k-utils?
[19:25] <mitchell> Jack_Sparrow: on dialup dsl
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mitchell HAve you changed any sources
[19:25] <Aragorn> oh ok thanks
[19:25] <DJones> cygoku: Give me a minute while I check, certainly noy proposed updates, but I might have backports enabled
[19:25] <philsf> obf213: I don't mind messing with xorg.conf if it gets it work (I used xf86config and had to read monitor freqs in the manual, back in the day)
[19:25] <wastedyouth> So, how can I properly removed proposed and downgrade it?
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mitchell it that some aol dsl thingy
[19:25] <mitchell> no nothing mate and this problem used also to accur in gutsy
[19:25] <flobbo> Cyndrework: well, I have 1 screen per video card running now. Definitely a slow down noticable and the main screen is acting a bit weird but it works.
[19:26] <Cyndrework> flobbo: now try enabling the third display
[19:26] <fde> !pm | mitchell
[19:26] <cygoku> Djones, thanks for checking ! :)
[19:26] <imagine> hello
[19:26] <imagine> i have some troubles when intaslling ubuntu themes!
[19:26] <mitchell> fde: sory
[19:27] <imagine> can anyone helps me plz?
[19:27] <dennda> Did anybody succeed with installing hardy with the final alternate installer AND setting up encrypted devices during partitioning that actually worked afterwards?
[19:27] <mitchell> fde:but i know u can help
[19:27] <Anarhist> why was lxdoom removed from repository?
[19:27] <Anarhist> q;-/
[19:27] <fde> mitchell: What is the issue?
[19:27] <philsf> obf213: k, thanks anyway
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> imagine Not all themes are complete, not all will work... especially if you are running effects
[19:27] <imagine> ok man ;)
[19:28] <DJones> cygoku: no, just checked, i've just got the default repo's enabled, i'm using the united kingdom server, it might be worth changing servers and also updating synaptic in case there's an old update thats been replaced
[19:28] <fde> wastedyouth: can you try 'sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop' for me? it may or may not have some logic with using older versions of packages.
[19:28] <imagine> so how can i do to get those which works...
[19:28] <flobbo> Cyndrework: same crap as before, x is slow and the panels expand across 2 screens. doh.
[19:28] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: as I'm going through the reconfigure accepting defaults, it quits in the middle of the keyboard choices with the error "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080520142605" so I never get the chance to change the video drivers
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> imagine All I do is trial and error. best luck with gtk2 themes for me
[19:28] <gmonnerat> someone know why my ubuntu 8.04 doesn't diminish or increase the brightness of the screen?
[19:28] <perillux> is there a way to print text to an existing image via a shell script?
[19:29] <imagine> lol
[19:29] <mitchell> fde: my prob is when I start downloading something and i leave my pc downloading over night, in the morning i find it without network and i cannot even ping my modem! In the past this used to accur and I used sudo /etc/init.d/netowrking restart to regain network but now this isn;t working anymore! I have to restar
[19:29] <mitchell> restart
[19:29] <imagine> Jack_Sparrow so ? what can i do  ;)
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid It is supposed to overwrite the old config as that is what you want to do.
[19:29] <Xpisto1> Is anybody else having issues with Heron?
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> imagine keep trying
[19:29] <wastedyouth> fde: yes I can give me a sec
[19:29] <fde> mitchell: hmm... I have never used dialup with Linux.
[19:30] <cygoku> DJones, how do I change the server ?
[19:30] <wastedyouth> fde: It says it is already the newest version.  But I"m noticing I can't install evolution and it isn't there
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mitchell Dialup and linux are not a good combo
[19:30] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: I understand that, I want it to, but it only does the keyboard before giving me that error and abruptly ending.  I never get to the video card editing.
[19:30] <perillux> ﻿is there a way to print text to an existing image via a shell script?
[19:30] <imagine> Jack_Sparrow nice ok man but tell me plz what do u  do to get new look for ur ubuntu os
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid then you have deeper problems than just your res
[19:31] <cygoku> DJones, found it,...
[19:31] <fde> wastedyouth: When it removed gnome-panel it should have removed ubuntu-desktop cuz of deps... strange...
[19:31] <Aragorn> Okay, so when Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) releases in October, Feisty Fawn will expire. So I have plenty of time :]
[19:31] <fde> wastedyouth: dpkg -l gnome-panel please
[19:31] <Xpisto1> I am actually getting more crashes with heron than with my xp partition
[19:31] <Xpisto1> lame
[19:31] <Pici> perillux: Something within the imagemagick package might be able to do that.
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> imagine PIck a gtk2 theme and drag and drop it onto the open theme manager
[19:31] <Cyndrework> flobbo: sorry I cant help you.  Only 1 video card, sorry
[19:31] <mitchell> fde: its a DSL connection e
[19:31] <imagine> ok man
[19:31] <imagine> tnks ;)
[19:31] <flobbo> Cyndrework: No problemo dude, thanks for the help anyways.
[19:31] <fde> mitchell: Still, I've only ever used cable modems... which is easier... heh
[19:31] <mitchell> fde:not a 56k one
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Xpisto1 Please ask a question and avoid the discussion
[19:32] <fde> mitchell: DSL is much slower than cable in most situations too...
[19:32] <wastedyouth> HOw do I show the results without spamming the channel fde?
[19:32] <mitchell> fde: hmm but i don;t think hats the issue though
[19:32] <Xpisto1> Has anyone else had a problem with heron crashing alot?
[19:32] <fde> !paste | wastedyouth
[19:32] <recon69> discovered to day the turning off all effects allowed me to login to hotmail :)
[19:32] <Xpisto1> Jack_Sparrow: better?
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Xpisto1 Stop...  when does it crash, what were you doing, what hardware are you running etc
[19:32] <mitchell> fde: how can this make a difference in a problem like this
[19:33] <Leif> Hi. I just upgraded to Hardy Heron (8.04) and /dev/hda, /dev/hdb and /dev/hdc just disappeared. Anyone got any ideas on what happened?
[19:33] <recon69> ﻿Xpisto1: crashing all over the place for me , kernel locksup and more. had 3 lockups today
[19:33] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: should I give up on Ubuntu then?  It's a clean install of Hardy on a freshly partitioned HD and it's never booted into Ubuntu.
[19:33] <fde> mitchell: I want to know why ubuntu-desktop is even still installed... heh... I'm not having the issue, so I want to know what exactly is wrong to more easily diagnose.
[19:33] <Xpisto1> Jack_Sparrow: My question is has anyone else been having issues with heron crashing?
[19:33] <wastedyouth> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15844/
[19:33] <rodolfo> how to make compiz fusion not to be initialized on system startup? Ubuntu hardy here.
[19:33] <usser> Leif, they pbbly turned into sda sdb and sdc :)
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid up to you.. try gutsy but unichrome isnt a decent video card you might try swapping that out
[19:34] <recon69> ﻿varaonaid: I would suggest the forums.
[19:34] <Xpisto1> recon69: Have you had trouble like this with gutsy?
[19:34] <fde> wastedyouth: It's installed... so what exactly is broken in proposed?
[19:34] <Leif> usser: thanks, I'll look at that
[19:34] <wastedyouth> fde: My gnome panel is back though after adding it back to sources
[19:34] <wastedyouth> fde: But now evolution wont install
[19:34] <varaonaid> recon69: I did already and after several days, no help :(  that's why I decided to try here.
[19:34] <recon69> nope, used 6.06 before. but did a clean install
[19:34] <l815> how do i install kde 4.0.1 without installing all the extra kubuntu stuff?
[19:34] <fde> wastedyouth: dpkg -l evolution | grep ^ii ... it has to be there... it's a dep of ubuntu-desktop also.
[19:35] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: it's a laptop so I'm not sure it's the easiest to swap out - if so, it's above my level of knowledge.
[19:35] <Zozma> don't you want all the kubuntu stuff? (I don't know anytihng about kubuntu so...)
[19:35] <recon69> ﻿varaonaid: do you have a link to your post
[19:35] <fde> wastedyouth: actually leave out everything after |
[19:35] <Leif> usser: Your where right! Thanks!!
[19:35] <KOJV> Noone with experience of i8k-utils?
[19:35] <KOJV> It keeps shutting the fans off, both in Ubuntu and Windows.
[19:35] <mitchell> fde: do you want me to use debian or soooo haha???
[19:36] <varaonaid> recon69: sure http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5066307#post5066307
[19:36] <wastedyouth> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15845/
[19:36] <fde> mitchell: I'm just telling you I don't know your answer
[19:36] <fde> wastedyouth: dpkg-reconfigure evolution
[19:36] <fde> wastedyouth: sudo that
[19:37] <wastedyouth> fde: It says: evolution is broken or not fully installed
[19:37] <speart> !bots
[19:37] <fde> wastedyouth: sudo aptitude install evolution output?
[19:37] <speart> !bugs irc
[19:37] <speart> !bugs
[19:38] <fde> !bugz 1
[19:38] <fde> !bug 1
[19:38] <mitchell> fde: ye i noticed that! and ur a professional thats why i asked uuuu
[19:38] <speart> hi, where can I consult with an Ubuntu developer regarding a bug?
[19:38] <l815> how do i install kde 4 on ubuntu
[19:38] <mitchell> fde:::: who can help here
[19:38] <Pici> Please dont abuse the bot.
[19:38] <wastedyouth> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15846/
[19:38] <recon69> ﻿varaonaid: did it crash when you tried recovery mode ?
[19:38] <fde> mitchell: No idea... sorry.
[19:39] <tyberion_> grrmmm i still cant right-click... Extract here... in thunar..:'((
[19:39] <mitchell> fde: ok thanks at least last week u solved another issue i had about the soundcard thanks mate
[19:39] <gaintsura> question... I've got a toshiba A215 S6408 Laptop, and it has a built in webcam, I got the camera software in ubuntu (8.04), how do I configure ubuntu to use my webcam?
[19:39] <fde> wastedyouth: please disable hardy-proposed in System > Administration > Software Sources
[19:39] <SliMM> hello
[19:39] <Pxrbot> Im still having probs with the broadcom wireless card in my HP laptop. the switch on the front reads as off when it shouldnt...
[19:40] <SliMM> i have a problem with booting ubuntu
[19:40] <wastedyouth> fde: okay
[19:40] <SliMM> from the CD
[19:40] <fde> mitchell: You're welcome... I'm just another user though, I've just been using the system longer than many, and enjoy helping people.
[19:40] <wastedyouth> fde: its already not checked
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> SliMM At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[19:40] <adac> Is there are grails .deb somewhere?
[19:41] <fde> wastedyouth: ok... please sudo aptitude update ... then try installing evolution again
[19:41] <gaintsura> Jack_Sparrow: I've had problems with a lot of linux live distros, have to always disable acpi before boot
[19:41] <SliMM> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is with the bios, it doesn't boot from CD
[19:41] <fde> wastedyouth: same error?
[19:41] <gaintsura> SliMM: you need to set your bios boot order tehn
[19:41] <gaintsura> then*
[19:41] <varaonaid> recon69: it goes to recovery menu resure, root, xfix
[19:41] <SliMM> Jack_Sparrow: i have just bought a new hdd and installed it
[19:41] <wastedyouth> fde: Yes, same error
[19:41] <SliMM> gaintsura: that'st the problem, it is set
[19:41] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> experiencing problems with "Network Settings" utility. PPPoE connection can't be turned off. Checkbox disappears after blinking. It worked on Ubuntu Live CD but doesn't on installed one. Any suggestions?
[19:41] <sgmadison> i have downloaded ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-server, I cannot boot ubuntu-server installs fine to the command line but no desktop manager will work, ubuntu-desktop also installs fine but after the loading screen goes to a black screen, same from livecd - this is an optiplex 745 that has installed debian and linuxmint just fine - any ideas?
[19:41] <SliMM> gaintsura: and it worked just fine before i bought the hdd
[19:41] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> *turned ON
[19:42] <harrmadd> Hi everyone - brand-spankin to Linux here - trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 from CD using the "Install inside Windows" option - I can get as far as "creating image..." and then it gives me a message saying "cannot access disc" ... any ideas?
[19:42] <Grim76__> wastedyouth: Just for grins can you try a different mirror?
[19:42] <gaintsura> SliMM: verify that, most systems have a boot menu you can select at bios POST, for my laptop its F12
[19:42] <Gaming4JC> hey all :)
[19:42] <mitchell> fde: we much appreciate
[19:42] <gaintsura> SliMM: if you can get to the manual boot menu, you can select boot from cd
[19:42] <wastedyouth> Grim76__: Can you suggest a mirror?
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> SliMM you need some sort of bootable media or put the hd in a different box
[19:42] <Gaming4JC> I have a problem...
[19:42] <Gaming4JC> my Winmodem
[19:42] <Gaming4JC> :P
[19:42] <gaintsura> ...
[19:42] <Gaming4JC> major perdicament
[19:42] <FloodBot3> Gaming4JC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:42] <SliMM> gaintsura: how can i enter the manual boot menu?
[19:42] <gaintsura> did you say MODEM?
[19:43] <varaonaid> recon69: I tried using the xfix option but it didn't seem to help
[19:43] <ron_> whats the fix to a busy box
[19:43] <SliMM> Jack_Sparrow: it's a hardy cd, it's bootable
[19:43] <gaintsura> SliMM: try the F() keys at bios POST
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC Save yourself some headache.. get a real modem or dsl...
[19:43] <roger> #ubuntu-br
[19:43] <SliMM> ok
[19:43] <Grim76__> wastedyouth: Try the main update server.  I have had a similar problem and when I went back to the default update server it went away.
[19:43] <fde> wastedyouth: mkdir debs && cd debs && sudo apt-get -d install evolution evolution-common evolution-data-server ... this will result in new directory 'debs' from where you run the command and populate it with 3 .debs
[19:43] <SliMM> gaintsura: any key to start with, except f8?
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> SliMM Does it work in another machine?
[19:43] <Gaming4JC> How do I convert this to deb file without internet access? Or could some one kindly do it. :)
[19:43] <Gaming4JC> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-9.tar.gz
[19:43] <gaintsura> SliMM: F8 is your bios config menu?
[19:43] <SliMM> Jack_Sparrow: it does, it's an ordered CD
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC rht = redhat as in rpm
[19:44] <SliMM> gaintsura: no, DEL is, but i have already tried f8
[19:44] <mynyml> i'm probably pushing my luck, but does anyone here have an HPPavillion tx1000z?
[19:44] <varaonaid> recon69: resume normal boot stops on running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) and gives me a prompt
[19:44] <gaintsura> SliMM: ok, at boot just run through the F keys
[19:44] <wastedyouth> fde: okay I will try that thank for all your help btw
[19:44] <gaintsura> you'll find it
[19:44] <SliMM> gaintsura: ok
[19:44] <Gaming4JC> they say it works on Ubuntu as well as RH
[19:45] <Pxrbot> anyone any good with ubuntu recognising hardware? because it seems like it isnt recognising my broadcom wireless...
[19:45] <Gaming4JC> but I've heard I need "alien" compiler to convert it... seeing I don't have internet access I can't use the downloader in Ubuntu to get it...
[19:45] <Gaming4JC> :(
[19:45] <fde> wastedyouth: Once they've downloaded, type 'ls' ... if you see them, type: dpkg -i --force-depends *.deb
[19:46] <Xpisto1> ﻿So, is anyone else having trouble with heron crashing. I am trying to decide if I am going to reinstall heron or go back to gibbon?\
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !alien | Gaming4JC
[19:46] <Gaming4JC> eww...
[19:46] <gaintsura> hey Jack_Sparrow: do you know how to configure a webcam in ubuntu hardy?
[19:46] <xinen007> I am xinen007!
[19:46] <Gaming4JC> what about this? http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-6_for_Ubuntu-2.6.15-23-386.tgz :)
[19:46] <legend2440> Gaming4JC: just run setup    ./setup
[19:47] <Gaming4JC> where do I run it.. Terminal Window?
[19:47] <wastedyouth> fde: i see the directory but its empty and showed the same error let me make sure I typed it right
[19:47] <legend2440> Gaming4JC: yes
[19:47] <Gaming4JC> ok :)
[19:47] <Gaming4JC> and another modem... umm
[19:47] <Gaming4JC> Lucent LT Winmodem, PCI
[19:47] <fde> wastedyouth: don't worry about it, I need to re-think the command to tell you, hold on
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC almost any external non-usb modem will work
[19:48] <legend2440> Gaming4JC: you did extract the archive right?
[19:48] <Gaming4JC> I found a site here, but I don't see any Ubutnu support... http://www.geocities.com/jcmp3/ You know which one would be good
[19:48] <Gaming4JC> legend2440: I'm on Windows now, I'll go back to Ubuntu when I have everything. :)
[19:48] <Gaming4JC> not yet, in other words
[19:48] <Kl4m> Gaming4JC: that stuff is too old
[19:48] <Gaming4JC> but I need to know how to do it all offline in Ubuntu to get me going. Hope all works. :D
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC get the ubuntu dvd as it has the main repo included
[19:49] <Gaming4JC> ok
[19:49] <xinen007> 大家好！有中国人没有？
[19:49]  * gaintsura kicks his network
[19:50] <SliMM> gaintsura: none of the f keys worked
[19:50] <xinen007> 这个挺好玩的。。。
[19:50]  * Gaming4JC hopes the Ubuntu build works in the mean time...
[19:50] <gaintsura> SliMM: try insert?
[19:50] <nickrud> !cn | xinen007
[19:50] <Eagleguy125> Is this the appropriate channel for problems with grub?
[19:50] <Gaming4JC> hmm... where can I get Lucent LT Winmdoem, PCI drivers then? If the site I had was that old...
[19:50] <fde> wastedyouth: from that some dir please type: sudo aptitude download evolution evolution-common evolution-data-server
[19:51] <lunaphyte_> i'm running lsof -i TCP as a non root user to obtain process numbers for open ports, but i get no output. i see in the security section of the man page the comments regarding this - according to the output of lsof -h : "Anyone can list all files; /dev warnings disabled; kernel ID check disabled."  what am i missing?
[19:51] <kajo> Um... problem.... Some stray keystroke/mouseclick just made my firefox window go about 90% transparent. Anyone have any idea what caused this?
[19:51] <gaintsura> SliMM: if you cant find the key, I would suggest looking at your hardware documentation to find out what key the boot menu is
[19:51] <kajo> I'd google it, but...
[19:51] <kajo> ....heh...
[19:51] <recon69> ﻿varaonaid: well, can only suggest checking out what vedio card/chipset your laptop got and checking for driver issues , also try recreate you xorg.config file , there is hope though http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14025&highlight=Averatec+3225hs
[19:51] <wastedyouth> fde: okay its downloading 2 mins eta
[19:51] <Pici> lunaphyte_: You want netstat, not lsof.  -tanp is the general arguments that  I ususally use.
[19:51] <SliMM> gaintsura: that's impossible.. the PC is 6 years old, i can't find the manuals
[19:52] <Gaming4JC> *cough* ehmm..
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid Can you get to grub menu?
[19:52] <gaintsura> SliMM: what motherboard?
[19:52] <PdUb101> ok i need some help please, im trying to get themes to install, when i go into appearance and select install, and i browse to the folder, it just keeps opening up folders till theres nothing there.. am i doing something wrong?
[19:52] <nickrud> lunaphyte_ it only gives you your users outgoing without sudo
[19:52] <frogmeat> Hi all
[19:53] <Gaming4JC> hi
[19:53]  * gaintsura moves his laptop and hopes he doesnt lose the connection *praying*
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid There are some options to try   noapic acpi=off, pci=irqroute, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, vga=791, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, ide=nodma, nomce, pnpbios=off, xdrvr=vesa, res=800x600, apm=off,pci=noapci, nolapic, all_generic_ide, nolapic, pci=assign-busses, pci=irqpoll, pci=biosirq, pnpbios=off, hpet=disable
[19:53] <sgmadison> not trying to spam, just hoping to get this resolved, i have downloaded ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-server, I cannot boot ubuntu-server installs fine to the command line but no desktop manager will work, ubuntu-desktop also installs fine but after the loading screen goes to a black screen, same from livecd - this is an optiplex 745 that has installed debian and linuxmint just fine - any ideas?
[19:53] <fde> wastedyouth: once that's done... sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archive/evolution* /where/that/debs/dir/was ... then pastebin the output of ls within that dir (we need to remove some first...)
[19:53] <Bits> when I right-click in nautilus and choose "create document", it tells me that there are no templates installed. how can I add templates?
[19:54] <SliMM> gaintsura: intel?
[19:54] <Pici> sgmadison: ubuntu-server has no gui, its all CLI by default.
[19:54] <lunaphyte_> Pici: netstat won't return pids unless you're root.
[19:54] <wastedyouth> fde: okay working on it
[19:54] <sgmadison> pici: i'm aware, i tried to install a gui it didn't work, and ubuntu-desktop won't boot
[19:54] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: do you mean at boot?  If so, yes, I can get to the initial grub menu
[19:54] <varitech> hello
[19:54] <lunaphyte_> nickrud: ah, ok.
[19:54] <frogmeat> Ima Nub, and I tried to do something nubs should not do,  tried installing Xen, and it is not working out well.  It needs to restart to finish the install, it of course added a line to grub (I use grub)   It times out in the bootup and just loops, I need to backup my grub to prior the attempted install.  Is there a way to just delete the line on grub?
[19:54] <N8ESK> I have lost both of my desktop panels and cannot do anything select anything except a folder I have mounted on mydesktop.
[19:55] <fde> wastedyouth: sorry this is such a pain... please ensure you never let update-manager remove anything you don't want ever again though, alright?  :D
[19:55] <fde> don't want it to*
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid You can try those or use recovery mode or livecd and edit xorg
[19:55] <kajo> Can anyone please help me? My firefox went transparent because of a stray keystroke/mouseclick or something.... how the heck can I make it opaque again?
[19:55] <Wifi> help help help! I uninstalled Evolution and now when i start ubuntu i just ahve the desktop icons displayed, and not the taskbar and the panel on the top, and the system freezes :(i cant do nothing please help
[19:56] <legend2440> frogmeat: in terminal type              gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:56] <wastedyouth> fde: hehe I will never trust update-manager again
[19:56] <nickrud> sgmadison you probably will se a clue about why X is not starting properly in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:56] <lmosher_> I just, for the first time, got my laptop to boot in kernel 2.6.24. Was giving a hard-drive related error, but I had to disable my onboard LAN as the solution (weird)
[19:56] <frogmeat> Kajo: hit ALT and third mouse button to roll back
[19:56] <wastedyouth> fde: i dont mind my ubuntu breaking it gives me an opportunity to learn something
[19:56] <Intrelude> where is the edubuntu channel?
[19:56] <lmosher_> ANYWAY, New kernel 2.6.24-17 FINALLY lets me use suspend-to-ram. However, on restore my USB mouse isn't working. Any ideas?
[19:56] <Intrelude> oh..hi all
[19:56] <fde> wastedyouth: heh... that's how I learned  :)
[19:56]  * nickrud puts a cookie on layaway for frogmeat
[19:56] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: recovery mode doesn't seem to work well and the livecd doesn't boot either.  But I managed to use nano from the prompt to open xorg.conf.  Just had no idea what to change at that point or how.
[19:56] <wastedyouth> fde: it says there is no /var/cache/apt/archive/evolution*
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> varaonaid That laptop seems to have many issues
[19:57] <kajo> frogmeat, alt+3rd mouse button is something I was toying with, so this is probably the solution, but alt+3rd mouse button doesn't actually fix anything...
[19:57] <wastedyouth> fde: oh, i jusat dont know what I"m doing hehe
[19:57] <fde> wastedyouth: ls /var/cache/apt/archive/evo[tab key repeatedly till it displays something] ... then show me that  :)
[19:57] <Gaming4JC> Umm
[19:58] <fde> wastedyouth: haha
[19:58] <Gaming4JC> if there is no dirvers
[19:58] <Gaming4JC> anyone know where I can buy Modems for Linux?
[19:58] <kajo> frogmeat, I figured it out.... AWESOME!
[19:58] <fde> wastedyouth: It's easier to move them still ignore that last comment from me.
[19:58] <Gaming4JC> lol I called my ISP and they said they had no idea what one was or where to get them
[19:58] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: what kind of modems?
[19:58] <Gaming4JC> Internal if possible
[19:58] <Gaming4JC> PCI
[19:58] <wastedyouth> fde: oh btw I'm 64 bit should I have mentioned that sooner?
[19:58] <nickrud> Gaming4JC most anywhere, zoom makes decent ones (or did) . Just make sure it has an 'onboard uart'
[19:58] <frogmeat> kajo: also next time you could just go into window options and turn off window graphics
[19:58] <Gaming4JC> I've been googling for 2 days
[19:58] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: a modem for what, though?
[19:59] <Gaming4JC> can't find a good modem... :(
[19:59] <gordonjcp> radio, cable?
[19:59] <Gaming4JC> simple Dial-UP, PCI
[19:59] <fde> wastedyouth: irrelevant right now :)
[19:59] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: oh
[19:59] <tomi> help help help! I uninstalled Evolution and now when i start ubuntu i just ahve the desktop icons displayed, and not the taskbar and the panel on the top, and the system freezes :(i cant do nothing please help
[19:59] <tarsin> hello, i have an IBM pc i am trying to install ubuntu 8.04 on.  during the installation process, after i select that i want to boot into the live cd (or install) it drops down into Busybox prompt in part of what appears to be the initramfs.  no error messages are displayed on either that virtual term (8) or the main terminal window...  it seems that the initfs is having difficulty recongizing hardware?? anyone have a suggestion?
[19:59] <wastedyouth> pde: am I copying these to the /debs directory we created ot the other way around?
[19:59] <fde> wastedyouth: that's why I used aptitude rather than pointed you at files
[19:59] <varaonaid> Jack_Sparrow: oddly enough, I tried a couple of other distros and Mandriva, for instance works like a charm getting wireless, sound, screen all perfectly without help from me on the livecd.  So I'm now sure now if it's the laptop or the distro that I'm having issues with.  I guess I'll just have to use a different distro for that lappy, I just love ubuntu on my current setup and didn't really want to change. :(
[19:59] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: you might be able to buy one in 1993
[19:59] <kajo> frogmeat, I can do this with ANY window?!?!!?!?? THIS IS SO COOL.
[19:59] <fde> wastedyouth: copying them to that dir.
[19:59] <Gaming4JC> gordonjcp: lol... Where can I get ollddd ones then?
[19:59] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: ebay, possibly
[20:00] <frogmeat> Kajo: yeah, you can lose any window you like with that option :P
[20:00] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: I suspect that pretty much any PCI modem will be a software modem
[20:00] <wastedyouth> fde: cp evolution* /home/djp/debs/ and it says they are all the same file...
[20:00] <Gaming4JC> :-/
[20:00] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: got any serial ports?
[20:00] <wastedyouth> fde: oh I"m stupid hold on
[20:00] <SliMM> gaintsura: what should I do? :-(
[20:00] <Gaming4JC> one, but it's used for printer and DexDrive
[20:00] <Gaming4JC> :(
[20:00] <gordonjcp> ah
[20:00] <frogmeat> legend2440: about my grub config (thanks so much by the way) should I reorder them or is it safe to just delete them?
[20:01] <sa125> how can I change my computer's inet address? It's currently 10.0.0.1 behind the router, and I want it to be something else, like 10.0.0.5
[20:01] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: does anyone even do dialup internet access any more?
[20:01] <gaintsura> SliMM: hang on, sorry was looking for a phone number
[20:01] <SliMM> gaintsura: it's allright
[20:01] <gaintsura> SliMM: I need to know the mfg/model of the motherboard in the PC
[20:01] <gordonjcp> sa125: you can either set it manually with the network control panel, or you can force the router to serve it a different address
[20:01] <legend2440> frogmeat: delete what?
[20:01] <Dr_Link> In the Sound manager, I have set up to Ensoniq AudioPCI (which is the ONLY PCI one listed, I have integrated sound disabled and the speakers plugged into the sound card
[20:01] <Gaming4JC> gordonjcp: Yes, a lot of ISP's still have Dial-UP. :)
[20:01] <kajo> frogmeat, this is perfect, I can make firefox just *lightly* transparent with that option, and so watch xchat in the background for red without having to alt+tab to it. Same with pidgin.
[20:02] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: hmm
[20:02] <wastedyouth> fde: there is only evolution-data-server-common_2.22.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb in the /var...archives
[20:02] <frogmeat> legend2440: the Xen modules in grub
[20:02] <Dr_Link> when I play a test sound, I hear a "beeeeeeeeep" from the speakers. When I play any other sound, such as that from a .avi file or from .mp3 files that I know work, because I previously could use sound... I hear silence.
[20:02] <Dr_Link> What's my issue here?
[20:02] <SliMM> gaintsura: how can i find out that?
[20:02] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: I can't even remember the last time I used a dialup modem, it was at least five years ago
[20:02] <Gaming4JC> :-|
[20:02] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: where are you?
[20:02] <legend2440> frogmeat: i would comment them out wit # in front of lines
[20:02] <fde> wastedyouth: what about in the debs dir?
[20:02] <wastedyouth> fde: so there are now 4 debs in the deb directory
[20:02] <Gaming4JC> USA, nowheresville lol
[20:03] <frogmeat> kajo: it's nice to be giving back in here, even if just a little lol, I come in with questions all the time.
[20:03] <Dr_Link> or does ANYONE here use sound?
[20:03] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: ah, bit far then - I've got a bunch of old external modems in a box up the loft
[20:03]  * Gaming4JC they don't even Provide DSL or Cable here yet
[20:03] <frogmeat> legend2440: yeah, that makes sense, thanks
[20:03] <Dr_Link> because obviously I can't.
[20:03] <bonhoffer> anyone know how to kill a job: as in  >>jobs  produces [1]+  Running                 svn update &
[20:03] <sa125> gordonjcp: how do I set it manually? I tried looking through the network settings gui but got lost
[20:03] <gordonjcp> Gaming4JC: but you'd need to come to Scotland for them, which is probably not really worth it
[20:03] <bonhoffer> i thought it was kill %1
[20:03] <bonhoffer> but that doesn't work (it also doesn't return an error)
[20:03] <fde> wastedyouth: that's probably fine... leave it there and type: dpkg -i --force-depends *.deb within that dir
[20:03] <wastedyouth> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15849/ thats the deb directory
[20:03] <kajo> frogmeat, yeah, I know what you mean. I'm in the same boat. :)
[20:04] <fde> wastedyouth: uhh... sudo that
[20:04] <wastedyouth> fde: okay its installing
[20:04] <gaintsura> SliMM: pop open the case and look around on the mobo, there should be some model numbers on it, as long as I have those I can find the rest out
[20:04] <gordonjcp> sa125: open "Network Settings", unlock it, click on the connection you want to change, and set it to "Static IP Address"
[20:04] <wastedyouth> fde: has dependency problems
[20:04] <frogmeat> legend2440: now I noticed that xen is still getting updates through the manager, and it is not listed in the add/remove screen, is there a way to get rid of xen from the update list, if there is something like that
[20:05] <wastedyouth> fde: but says it installed it anyways
[20:05] <fde> wastedyouth: yeah, but it'll install anyways now... we can ignore them because it's just a new build, not a new version entirely...
[20:05] <N8ESK> Help please, I have lost my both my standard panels and can't do anything but access a folder that is mounted on my desktop.
[20:05] <frogmeat> legend2440: and each time it updates it adds a new line to grub and reboots, goes back into the loop again
[20:05]  * Gaming4JC so would anyone know where to actually get Winmodem drivers at? Seems it should be easy to find but it's not. (googled for 2 days)
[20:05] <fde> wastedyouth: You should be all set now... for proof, fire up Evolution  :)
[20:05] <ijusten> How do I mount a partition on startup? I've tried to read manuals but I just can't do it! Presently I can click the partition in the computer:// and it opens, but I wish to see it on the desktop on startup
[20:06] <ijusten> I'm hoping there's some box somewhere I can cross
[20:06] <Slart> ijusten: add it to /etc/fstab
[20:06] <frogmeat> N8ESK: can you still right click on the desktop and get info that way?
[20:06] <Slart> !fstab | ijusten
[20:06] <Eri1> ok. finally made it. allright. VERY simple problem here. i'll explain as much as I can. my standard p/s2 mouse (very generic, not usb, it is trackball....) hasn't worked on the live cd, or my main install. its a clean install of ubuntu, onto a pentium 4.... and there's never been any problems with it on windows xp... my question is... where the heck do i even start (I am an extreme noob) where do i start to fix this problem?!
[20:06] <ijusten> slart, I've been trying to do fstab for two hours now
[20:06] <ijusten> can you take a peek?
[20:06] <wastedyouth> fde: it says its missing libraries
[20:06] <Slart> ijusten: sure.. pastebin it?
[20:06] <Slart> !paste | ijusten
[20:06] <fde> wastedyouth: can you paste the output for me?
[20:07] <legend2440> frogmeat:  which kernel are you running now? in terminal type uname -a
[20:07] <N8ESK> frogmeat yes but I cant launch any programs or get the menu back
[20:07] <fde> Who knew evolution was so picky  :|
[20:07] <Dr_Link> I'll re-ask
[20:07] <Dr_Link> In the Sound manager, I have set up to Ensoniq AudioPCI (which is the ONLY PCI one listed, I have integrated sound disabled and the speakers plugged into the sound card
[20:07] <ijusten> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[20:07] <ijusten> #
[20:07] <ijusten> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[20:07] <ijusten> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:07] <ijusten> # /dev/sda2
[20:07] <FloodBot3> ijusten: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <ijusten> UUID=b0642623-2918-4ecb-a97d-f9871f28699b /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:07] <Dr_Link> when I play a test sound, I hear a "beeeeeeeeep" from the speakers. When I play any other sound, such as that from a .avi file or from .mp3 files that I know work, because I previously could use sound... I hear silence.
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !resetpanels
[20:07] <jonlanglois> If anybody was here earlier, and recalls my asking about a little X "hiccup" that was happening every four seconds on my recent Hardy upgrade, FYI I got it resolved.
[20:07] <frogmeat> N8ESK: first lets make sure those files are not hidden, CTRL-H on your desktop
[20:07] <Slart> ijusten: no no no.. never paste in the channel
[20:07] <SliMM> gaintsura: gigabyte GA-8IR2003 REV: 2.0
[20:07] <wastedyouth> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15850/
[20:07] <Ayabara> After installing Vista I had to restore grub and manually add Vista to menu.lst. On kernel upgrades I get a question if I want to overwrite the modified version with the "package maintainers version". I did that and readded Vista afterwards. Is there something I can to to avoid having to repeat this step every time a new kernel is released?
[20:07] <gaintsura> SliMM: thanks, hang on
[20:07] <Slart> !paste | ijusten!, READ THIS!!!..
[20:07] <BLKNITE> hey all
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> jonlanglois Do you have a link for reference
[20:08] <wastedyouth> fde: oh thats not the result of the first command you wanna see that one?
[20:08] <fde> wastedyouth: Ahh, I didn't say install it again... we installed it... I said run the program.
[20:08] <BLKNITE> did anyone get vmware workstation 603 working...I am trying to install on my desktop and I am getting module error
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Ayabara not really
[20:08] <fde> wastedyouth: preferably from the terminal
[20:08] <frogmeat> legend2440: 2.6.24-17-generic
[20:08] <Spaisezor> ok. i cant get my card reader working on my Dell xps m1710, does anyone have an idea on how i can do this?
[20:08] <wastedyouth> fde: evolution: error while loading shared libraries: liblpint-bonobo.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:08] <N8ESK> frogmeat: that didn't do anything
[20:08] <Eri1> my standard p/s2 3-button mouse doesn't work at all in ubuntu. how do i fix this?! I'm extremely noob, so take it easy on me. if ANYONE can help.....
[20:09] <Ayabara> Jack_Sparrow: ok. I'll enter "learn to live with it" mode then :-)
[20:09] <frogmeat> N8ESK: do you use grub or lilo?
[20:09] <Spaisezor> ok. i cant get my card reader working on my Dell xps m1710, does anyone have an idea on how i can do this? ohh and im running ubuntu 8.04
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Spaisezor Most of those are propietary ...  easy solution is to buy an $5 external
[20:09] <frogmeat> N8ESK: what was the last thing you did before this happened?
[20:09] <wastedyouth> fde: should I apt-get -f install?
[20:09] <Eri1> i've been reading up on this for a week in the forums with no luck at finding anything specifically pertinant to solving this.
[20:09] <ijusten> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15851/ <so, sda1, what am I doing wrong?
[20:09] <sa125> gordonjcp: thanks!
[20:09] <jonlanglois> Well, it wasn't really an X problem.  Turns out, the x11vnc install with Hardy has a problem, and I had it set up in /etc/gdm/Init to run with -loop.  Every four seconds, it was trying to connect to my X display, and was getting s bad symbol error.
[20:09] <legend2440> frogmeat: ok then it is safe to uninstall xen if you want  open synaptic and open search and search for xen.
[20:09] <fde> wastedyouth: try it, I think it'll remove a bunch of stuff though.
[20:10] <Spaisezor> jack_sparrow: i dont want to, i have a perfectly working one here
[20:10] <Spaisezor> just need to work out how to mount it
[20:10] <Eri1> anyone?
[20:10] <Gaming4JC> hmm no drivers = no ubuntu. Strangest thing is LinucConsole detected it out of the box...
[20:10] <Spaisezor> i shuld compile some drivers then, i cant seem to find anything about it
[20:10] <Gaming4JC> *Linux
[20:10] <jonlanglois> Fixing vnc was on my to-do list--just after I figured out what the hiccup was all about.  :-/
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Spaisezor Works fine in windows as it has the propietary drivers..
[20:10] <Spaisezor> yeah
[20:11] <N8ESK> frogmeat: I am not sure, I just installed ubuntu and am a newbie.  I installed from the download page at  the Ubuntr site so whatever that supplies.
[20:11] <wastedyouth> fde: sweet I got it
[20:11] <Eri1> anyone know anything about fixing the ps2 mouse problem with ubuntu?
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | tomi
[20:11] <Spaisezor> theres np with it in windows, just want to use it in ubuntu, as i only use windows for gaming, and i cba to reboot everytime i need to use my card reader
[20:11] <fde> wastedyouth: all working?
[20:11] <_PeterParker_> does someone has a RicoH SD Card Reader working?
[20:11] <wastedyouth> fde: after running that command it removed what we installed so I reinstalled it and now its working
[20:12] <wastedyouth> fde: thanks so much for your assistance
[20:12] <fde> wastedyouth: haha
[20:12] <frogmeat> N8ESK: Sorry mate, that one is beyond me, perhaps someone else can help
[20:12] <wastedyouth> fde: it all looks okay I don't see what else I broke yet =)
[20:12] <fde> wastedyouth: I don't get it... but hey, it's working  :)
[20:12] <Dr_Link> I'm assuming no one knows.
[20:12] <wastedyouth> fde: me either.. now I'm afraid to touch it
[20:12] <N8ESK> I was moving some launchers around.  Earlier i deleted Evolution and Pidgin using the synaptic program.
[20:12] <fde> wastedyouth: You mean you installed via aptitude again... or via dpkg?
[20:12] <Dr_Link> about my sound issue.
[20:12] <gaintsura> SliMM: I'm downloading the manual now, I'll let you know when I've found the key
[20:12] <PdUb101> where is the .theme folder at in ubuntu hardy??
[20:12] <etronik> Hi all, when did 8.04 come out ??
[20:12] <Roughneck_cowboy> hello
[20:13] <tomi> HELP!!! I uninstalled Evolution and now when i start ubuntu i just ahve the desktop icons displayed, and not the taskbar and the panel on the top, and the system freezes :(i cant do nothing please help
[20:13] <Starnestommy> etronik: April
[20:13] <gaintsura> arg, stupid connection SliMM: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Manual_DownloadFile.aspx?FileType=Manual&FileID=15684 this is the manual, it should tell you in there
[20:13] <Roughneck_cowboy> how could I restart my computer at runlevel 3 ?
[20:13] <wastedyouth> fde: I used the sudo dpkg -i --force-depends *.deb
[20:13] <ijusten> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15851/ <why doesn't sda1 mount?
[20:13] <sa125> anyone knows of a good avi 2 ipod GUI converter?
[20:13] <fde> wastedyouth: Cool... very strange... but cool  :)
[20:13] <_PeterParker_> HARDY: after installing fglrx 8.5 (ati official from site) i just get a black screen before gdm
[20:14] <wastedyouth> fde: yup very strange
[20:14] <SliMM> gaintsura: thanks
[20:14] <_PeterParker_> i've heard it has something to do with DRI
[20:14] <wastedyouth> fde: thanks for your help you are the best... and my bladder is going to kill me
[20:14] <fde> wastedyouth: If you happen to have any further issues... it'll be rather similar to fix...
[20:14]  * wastedyouth goes to wee
[20:14] <gaintsura> SliMM: NP, it should tell you about it in there
[20:14] <_PeterParker_> how do i disable it? (note: commenting on xorg.conf does not work)
[20:14] <fde> wastedyouth: you're welcome... thank you  :)
[20:14] <Eri1> IBM pentium 4, 40 gb hd, just installed the newest version of ubuntu, downloaded the upgrade, and even from the livecd, my mouse simply doesn't work. the pointer just sits there. no idea where to start on even figuring out how to configure any of this. its a simple trackball mouse with a wheel. I mean.... its the simplest stupidest problem, but basically disables most of my enjoyment. HOW DO I FIX IT?! where do i start?
[20:14] <Gaming4JC> Where can I FIND WinModem drivers...  blah. Goolged EVERYWHERE... :(
[20:15] <fde> Gaming4JC: www.linmodems.org
[20:15] <PdUb101> can anyone tell me where the .themes folder is located in ubunt?
[20:15] <Gin> can you test kde 4.1 on Ubuntu hardy?
[20:15] <Gaming4JC> don't they exist... :P
[20:15] <Gaming4JC> links are dead?
[20:15] <fde> PdUb101: ~/.themes
[20:15] <Gaming4JC> well I'll try again...
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tomi http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[20:15] <fde> PdUb101: so the base of your home dir
[20:15] <Gaming4JC> :s
[20:15] <legend2440> N8ESK: press Alt+F2 and type gnome-panel
[20:15] <nizzle> soo.. anyone willing to help me fix some driver or lib issue
[20:16] <SliMM> gaintsura: stupid dial-up >_<
[20:16] <nizzle> just got back to ubuntu today after leaving 6.10
[20:16] <fde> Gin: Try in #kubuntu ... ask about nightly builds of trunk, and their availability to ubuntu...
[20:16] <nizzle> having trouble with new hardware
[20:16] <gaintsura> SliMM: lol, I'm on wifi, but half the time I get dialup speeds, so I feel ya
[20:16] <Eri1> it makes ubuntu feel like driving a porche with a wrench for a steering wheel. how do i get this damn thing to get my mouse to work?
[20:16] <frogmeat> legend2440: heh, removing xen took out the problems in grub by itself, thnaks man... nice to be able ot bott right back into desktop again
[20:16] <legend2440> frogmeat: yw
[20:16] <SliMM> gaintsura: well, wifi here also, but connected to a dial-up modem :))
[20:16] <frogmeat> take care all
[20:16] <gaintsura> ouch
[20:17] <legend2440> N8ESK: press Alt+F2 and type gnome-panel
[20:17] <j1solutions> hello all
[20:17] <Gaming4JC> hi
[20:17] <N8ESK> The "alt-F2 did not help
[20:17] <gaintsura> SliMM: according to a few resources, F12 should be the bootmenu
[20:17] <amrik> N8ESK: ctrl+alt+f2?
[20:18] <j1solutions> i'm getting ready for a fresh install on a new drive (hardy)
[20:18] <SliMM> gaintsura: thee bootmenu? like that thing that asks just where to boot from?
[20:18] <gaintsura> SliMM: its either F12, or F9
[20:18] <legend2440> N8ESK: a box does not pop up when Alt+F2 pressed?
[20:18] <SliMM> gaintsura: none worked :(
[20:18] <gaintsura> SliMM: yes, it will allow you to select the CD to be booted from
[20:18] <Eri1> ps2 mouse problem.... ubuntu will not... hell, i don't know. my simple generic boring mouse, not usb, very standard mouse will not work at all. there's nothing pertinant on the forums about this. how do i fix this? anyone? help?
[20:18] <BLKNITE> can someone help me with a vmware install
[20:18] <SliMM> gaintsura: i'll give it another try
[20:18] <BLKNITE> I cannot seemes to get this package to intsall
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Eri1 I had problems with a logitec mx mouse.. just would not work right
[20:19] <Eri1> i don't even know where to start on how to fix this.
[20:19] <wastedyouth> I still love my ubuntu despite what it did to me today
[20:19] <Eri1> i've spent 10 years studying windows. i'm clueless about this.
[20:19] <gaintsura> legend2440: the Alt+F2... is there a way to change that shortcut?
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Eri1 Dont beat yourself up over a $5 problem
[20:20] <fde> wastedyouth: haha... technically, it just asked you if it could do something bad, and you let it  ;)
[20:20] <sa125> BLKNITE: I installed vmware player a few days ago, so I can give it a shot
[20:20] <wastedyouth> fde: haha it shouldn't ask me if its going to bad
[20:20] <Eri1> point is, its a simple problem. there should be a simple solution.
[20:20] <Xcell> logitech lx7 works rite out of the box
[20:20] <gaintsura> omfg daytime TV is horrible
[20:20] <legend2440> gaintsura: yes in system>preferences>keyboard shorcuts
[20:21] <N8ESK> no nothing happened
[20:21] <ijusten> my bootup thingy? Please don't tell me you are all angry for my faux pas paste?
[20:21] <Pxrbot> is anyone able to help me with my broadcom wireless on a compaq laptop? it seems like ubuntu just doesnt see it...
[20:21] <Eri1> and there's about 300 or more posts about it in the forums with no answers to solving it.
[20:21] <ed2020> Hi all. Could anyone spare a couple of minutes to help a n00b with a (probably very simple) question please?
[20:21] <fde> wastedyouth: yeah, I filed a bug today about the situation, recommending some possible ideas that may make the situation better...
[20:21] <Cyndrework> Recommended package to test system performance?
[20:21] <sa125> BLKNITE: sorry, I'm kinda new at this
[20:21] <gaintsura> legend2440: does that include the allowed use of the windows key?
[20:21] <ijusten> ed2020, ask the question, repeat if nobody answers
[20:21] <sa125> BLKNITE:I think there's a #vmware channel you could try
[20:21] <wastedyouth> fde: now I got a big red circle on my system notification... says I got two broken packages... evolution and evolution-data-server
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Eri1 It must need a driver that is not available (non-standard mouse)
[20:22] <wastedyouth> fde: I'm inclined to ignore it because its working
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Eri1 What exact make and model
[20:22] <gaintsura> legend2440: HAH cool, thanks ^_^
[20:22] <laughtingMan> quit
[20:22] <laughtingMan> ops:D
[20:22] <legend2440> N8ESK: here is a post thats like your problem     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156602
[20:23] <ed2020> I have dual-booted Ubuntu with WinXP using Wubi. I only assigned 4GB of drive space to it, which has proven to be nowhere near enough. Is it possible to increase this without doing a full uninstall/reinstall?
[20:23] <Eri1> its black. says logitech on the bottom, the rest is worn off. m-s69 is the m/n.
[20:23] <Eri1> just plugs into the ps/2 port in the back, next to my keyboard.
[20:23] <Eri1> ver simple.
[20:23] <N8ESK>  legend2440 I'll try that thanks
[20:23] <fde> wastedyouth: Yes, ignore... just install the updates when they get to you...
[20:23] <ijusten> ed2020, I had that same problem few weeks back
[20:24] <ed2020> ijusten, did you find a solution?  :)
[20:24] <ijusten> there is a program to fix that, however, last I checked they hadn't updated it to 8.04 yet
[20:24] <Eri1> where do i start looking on my system to change, configure,.....hell, anything....
[20:24] <ijusten> Meanwhile, you can try to do it manually, but I found it too complicated and just installed ubuntu again
[20:24] <fde> wastedyouth: Do not activate -proposed again though, I can't stress that enough... or if you must, just be more aware of what it's saying it'll be doing
[20:24] <zibi9797> hey
[20:24] <ijusten> of course, this was few weeks back, the proggie might be updated by now
[20:24] <Pxrbot> My broadcom wireless doesnt seem to be showing up. it has before, but recently it seems as if the hardware isnt installed, any ideas?
[20:24] <zibi9797> i've got a problem
[20:24] <Xcell> Eri1 what exactly is not working
[20:24] <ed2020> What was the application?
[20:24] <Pers3ux> Hi. i have problem with compiling smartlink modem driver.
[20:24] <Eri1> the mouse.
[20:24] <Xcell> at all?
[20:25] <wastedyouth> fde: I think I learned my lesson =)
[20:25] <fde> wastedyouth: I'd recommend activating it for single package installs, then disabling it... or just be more patient  :)
[20:25] <zibi9797> i have burned a ubuntu 8.04 alternate and i wonna to install yhis in wubi
[20:25] <Eri1> the pointer just sits there. i've had to enable mousekeys just to make it this far to be able to ask about it. this is day 5 of "lets try ubuntu".
[20:25] <zibi9797> i don't have iso and i can't grab them
[20:25] <wastedyouth> fde: when update manager run it says I need to do a partial upgrade... which I believe is how I got into this mess.  I wont touch it again
[20:25] <legend2440> N8ESK: if you right click on desktop is there context menu that says Open Terminal?
[20:26] <Eri1> .... and so far.... i can honestly say windows (any version) is vastly superior just due to this inconvenience.
[20:26] <zibi9797>  can anybody help e
[20:26] <zibi9797> *me
[20:26] <fde> zibi9797: Wubi's installer will grab the stuff you need automatically, the alternate CD is for installing to harddrive...
[20:26] <Xcell> hmmmn.. U may google imwheel and take a look.. just a suggestion
[20:26] <zibi9797> fde: but i can't download this
[20:27] <wastedyouth> Okay, anybody know how to change the audacious tray icon?
[20:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Eri1 Running supported hardware will help with ANY OS you care to try
[20:27] <Eri1> what good is a gui o/s without a mouse interface..... especially when there's no easy way to see where, how, or why my mouse isn't working.
[20:27] <Cyndrework> is there any system performance testing software for ubuntu?
[20:27] <fde> wastedyouth: haha... good thinking... just watch for newer version of evolution. your current is 2.22.2-0ubuntu2 ... watch for ubuntu3 or 2.22.3, then install that.
[20:27] <gaintsura> SliMM: any luck?
[20:27] <Xcell> Cyndre_work what do you want to test?
[20:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Eri1 It is a logitec mouse that requires special windows only drivers..  nothing we can do will help with that
[20:28] <fde> wastedyouth: Until then, just always uncheck those packages
[20:28] <Eri1> and there's a lot of excuses. and no answers. somebody has to know how to look at where or how the mouse is configured in ubuntu, drivers, etc....
[20:28] <Kl4m> Cyndrework: depends for testing what
[20:28] <Eri1> so, nobody knows how to FIX this.
[20:29] <Cyndrework> kl4m: kinda like a system evaluation that tells you a score for your performance
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Eri1 No. Buy a generic mouse or look in supported hardware wiki
[20:29] <Eri1> even "how do i install a driver".
[20:29] <Eri1> ...
buy a good mouse
[20:29] <Eskimo> hi i need some help configuring apache .. i read the doccuments but since im new to linux i just cant understand it
[20:29] <Eri1> jesus christ.
[20:29] <G_`> any alternatives for gnutella ?
[20:29] <Eskimo> is there a simpler way to install a web server or ftp ?
[20:29] <Pici> !gnutella | G_`
[20:30] <jtisme> !language | Eri1
[20:30] <G_`> !p2p
[20:30] <Cyndrework> Xcell: Sorry - just looking for a performance monitor
[20:30] <Cyndrework> er performance score
[20:30] <G_`> Eskimo, ubuntu has a guide if am not wrong check out
[20:31] <Pxrbot> is there a 'click 'n' fix' way to get ubuntu to recognise i have a broadcom wireless card? im not that great with terminal yet
[20:31] <Gaming4JC> !eMule. :)
[20:31] <Kl4m> Cyndrework: there is no such thing.
[20:31] <sa125> does anybody know of a good gui to convert .avi videos to ipod?
[20:31] <Xcell> Cyndrework  try htop..it is a basic chip and mem reader
[20:31] <sheepmas> hi people - I'm trying to re-install ubuntu, but the live cd installer seems to drop me to a sort of 'busybox' terminal without further info. I've done a bit of googling but couldn't find anything relevant. Any suggestions?
[20:31] <sheepmas> Obviously I've installed it successfully before! Perhaps it's something to do with the fact it's already installed?
[20:31] <Eskimo> G_`: dude i tried apache .. just cant understand how to configure it
[20:32] <sheepmas> (I am trying to swap from x64 to x32)
[20:32] <ijusten> sheepmas, can't help, but "obviously" is usually the reason why something easy fails :)
[20:32] <Kl4m> Cyndrework: but if you want a "task manager" it's the "system monitor" in system -> admin
[20:32] <jessejazza> LOGITECH mouse driver package is called lomoco... in 7.10 repositories (i haven't got round to 8.04!)
[20:32] <G_`> shea|up, does it stop at initramfs ?
[20:32] <sheepmas> hehe - very true ijusten :)
[20:32] <G_`> sheepmas, ^^
[20:33] <sheepmas> G_ - yep, that's the thing.
[20:33] <gordonjcp> !apache | Eskimo
[20:33] <Eskimo> hmm
[20:33] <Eskimo> brb .. lemme check it out
[20:33] <Warbo> Hi, I've given the options to ln in the wrong order and replaced my music folder with a link :( Any way I can recover it?
[20:34] <jessejazza> Eri1: found lomoco?
[20:34] <Gaming4JC> nvm all, I found my WinModem drivers!
[20:34] <Gaming4JC> /me ubb33r w00tz! :D
[20:35] <[Realin]> hi all, why doesnt ubuntu let me share a folder on this drive
[20:35] <Gaming4JC> I love this site: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[20:35] <Gaming4JC> unofficial Winmodem support... gotta go test the drivers.
[20:35] <jihed-amine> hi
[20:35] <tmapj> can anyone help me with my graphics card
[20:35] <jihed-amine> how can i make drives automatically mount at startup (hardy)
[20:35] <tmapj> its not working
[20:35] <jihed-amine> ?
[20:36] <[Realin]> use ntfs-3g if u wanna mount ntfs partitions
[20:36] <[Realin]> i am a noob too :D
[20:36] <Xcell> tmapj-- which card
[20:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jihed-amine create mount point and add to fstab
[20:36] <G_`> !fstab ! jihed-amine
[20:36] <tmapj> geforce go 7300
[20:36] <tmapj> nvidia
[20:36] <Kl4m> [Realin]: what kind of share
[20:36] <G_`> !fstab | jihed-amine
[20:37] <Xcell> whats wrong with it tmapj
[20:37] <[Realin]> I am trying to share my folder from desktop onto my machine
[20:37] <Warbo> I've accidentally replaced a folder with a symbolic link, how can I get at the folder contents again?
[20:37] <tmapj> when i enable it, the computer loads to a blank screen
[20:37] <[Realin]> like to mentioned that i am on virtual machine
[20:37] <jihed-amine> thanks for your help
[20:37] <Xcell> tmapj--  restricted drivers?
[20:38] <adac> is there a tutorial how to write a service daemon like the ones that are in /etc/init.d ?
[20:38] <gaintsura> SliMM: Any luck?
[20:38] <[Realin]> do we have any manual/documentation for ubuntu ?
[20:38] <tmapj> Xcell, what?
[20:38] <wheezePuppet> /leave #ubuntu
[20:38] <Gaming4JC> :P
[20:38] <[Realin]> !manual
[20:38] <Kl4m> [Realin]: what kind of virtual machine? virtualbox? vmware? what kind of share? samba? VM shared folder?
[20:38] <gaintsura> how do I configure ubuntu for my built in webcam?
[20:39] <Xcell> !nvidia | tmapj
[20:39] <mannytu> !documentation
[20:39] <gosha> How do I reset all the wireless network connections? As in.. deleting the saved passwords and such.
[20:39] <gordonjcp> [Realin]: yes, lots
[20:39] <[Realin]> vmware, i have enable sharing from vmware settings, but how do i retreive it here in UBUNTU
[20:39] <Dr_Link> I have asked several times, can anyone answer my sound-related question for Ubuntu?
[20:40] <gordonjcp> !ask | Dr_Link
[20:40] <rafase282> Hello
[20:40]  * Dr_Link facepalms.
[20:40] <G_`> sheepmas, while booting add this parameter " generic.all_generic_ide=1" try it
[20:40] <Dr_Link> gordonjcp: I asked twice, without asking first... and I was ignored both times
[20:40] <Dr_Link> In the Sound manager, I have set up to Ensoniq AudioPCI (which is the ONLY PCI one listed, I have integrated sound disabled and the speakers plugged into the sound card
[20:40] <gordonjcp> Dr_Link: I don't care
[20:40] <Dr_Link> when I play a test sound, I hear a "beeeeeeeeep" from the speakers. When I play any other sound, such as that from a .avi file or from .mp3 files that I know work, because I previously could use sound... I hear silence.
[20:40] <Kl4m> Dr_Link: ask the question (again...) , don't ask if someone can answer
[20:40] <PdUb101> hi guys, i seem to be doing more evil then good to my ubuntu hardy, with my limited experience ive been trying to customize several areas of the OS, but the one thats frustrating me the most is i used to be able to spin the cube by holding both mouse buttons down at the same time on the desktop, and it no longer works.. is there a way to send compiz back to defaults?
[20:40] <gordonjcp> Dr_Link: ask the question, I'm not crawling back through a mile of text to find it
[20:40] <Dr_Link> I just did.
[20:40] <gordonjcp> Dr_Link: ok, *no* sounds play at all apart from the test sound?
[20:41] <Dr_Link> That is correct.
[20:41] <Xcell> Dr_Link-- un enable pc skeaper in (sound)
[20:41] <Xcell> spkr beep
[20:41] <rafase282> Anyone using Qemulator?
[20:41] <gordonjcp> Dr_Link: in Preferences are all the sound settings set to ALSA?
[20:41] <LogiTech> mp4 touch resolution " 320X240" good for "MOVIES" ? if i convert dvd quality movies to mp4 touch "320X240" will it be with good picture???
[20:41] <Warbo> Dr_Link, perhaps it's to do with gstreamer or something? Try looking in gstreamer-properties
[20:41] <Kl4m> [Realin]: you need to install the client modules of addition of whatever it is named in the guest OS, then configure the sharing settings on the host to share a folder
[20:42] <IFeelDead> Dead
[20:42] <IFeelDead> That is how i feel
[20:42] <IFeelDead> lol
[20:42] <Xcell> ?
[20:42] <Kl4m> [Realin]: replace "of" with "or".
 Dr_Link: in Preferences are all the sound settings set to ALSA? <-- yes.
[20:43] <[Realin]> of with or, means ?
[20:43] <[Realin]> bah, i am dumb at times :D
[20:43] <elbeardmorez> hi, is there anyway to get hold of patches that were made to the ubuntu6 xorg-server package??
 Dr_Link, perhaps it's to do with gstreamer or something? Try looking in gstreamer-properties <-- I see nothing wrong.
[20:44] <Cyndrework> xcell: ty for the info.  Was looking for something like windows vista system ranking
[20:44] <freefrank> !list
[20:44] <Xcell> Cyndrework-- no problem
[20:44] <IFeelDead> I really need consider to start taking drugs
[20:44] <jpds> freefrank: this is no warez channel
[20:44] <elbeardmorez> specifically this patch regarding sharevts - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-April/009108.html
[20:45] <jpds> !ot > IFeelDead
[20:45] <[Realin]> guest os is ubuntu and is installed using VMWARE, so u mean i need to search some module for UBUNTU or VMWARE
[20:45] <thehurley> hello
[20:45] <tmapj> Xcell,  you still here?
[20:45] <Xcell> yes
[20:45] <amrik> @find ubuntu isos
[20:45] <IFeelDead> Is that java bot!?
[20:45] <jpds> !bot | IFeelDead
[20:45] <[Realin]> mayne, this channel is happening
[20:45] <Warbo> Dr_Link, it may be pulse audio related, although I'm not too experienced there
[20:45] <Gaming4JC> :D
[20:45] <[Realin]> damn, 1416 ppl. :P
[20:45] <Gosha_> Ah... Got it. Thanks anyway.
[20:45] <gordonjcp> Dr_Link: can you play back any .wav files?
[20:45] <tmapj> Xcell, my screen goes blank when i try to boot up with my graphics card enabled
[20:45] <IFeelDead> Ok, but I mean In what language is that moron programmed?¨
[20:45] <Dr_Link> .wav?
[20:45] <Gaming4JC> ehmmm 1417 ;)
[20:46] <Dr_Link> I don't believe I have any .wav
[20:46] <Gaming4JC> nvm
[20:46] <SliMM> gaintsura:
[20:46] <[Realin]> heheh
[20:46] <Dr_Link> I have .mp3, though.
[20:46] <[Realin]> yeah
[20:46] <SliMM> gaintsura: none
[20:46] <Kl4m> !download | amrik
[20:46] <thehurley> i'm looking at this page (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556714), and I'm wondering what the consequences of the first line are "for dr in $(ndiswrapper -l | grep -o "\w* :" | grep -o "\w*" ); do sudo ndiswrapper -e $dr; done"
[20:46] <[Realin]> i wanna be a part of it too..
[20:46] <Warbo> Dr_Link, look in /usr/share/sounds
[20:46] <Gaming4JC> zooom zoom zoom...
[20:46] <hiptopbot> <-- my t-mobile sidekick irc client
[20:46] <thehurley> will it srew up any of the wired networks
[20:46] <IFeelDead> I don't have friends :p
[20:46] <[Realin]> but i am noob :(
[20:46] <Warbo> Dr_Link, should have some wavs
[20:46] <Dr_Link> Hrm, it seems to be playing now.
[20:46] <tmapj> xcell, another unrelated problem im having is that i cant hear the startup sound.
[20:46] <ompaul> IFeelDead, you are offtopic please don't be
[20:46] <SliMM> gaintsura: perhaps a GRUB floppy disk would help?
[20:46] <fde> [Realin]: Everyone was a "n00b" once... we identify!
[20:46] <gordonjcp> Dr_Link: ok, what have you got it playing?
[20:46] <Xcell> tmapj-- for now..i would re-boot...press escape ..go into recovery mde..allow it to re-do X..give that a try
[20:46]  * Gaming4JC is an ubb33r n00b, but I used so many LiveCDs I'm getting the hang of things
[20:47] <[Realin]> so how do i start.. fde ?
[20:47] <ompaul> !l33t | Gaming4JC
[20:47] <tmapj> what is redo x?
[20:47] <Dr_Link> some .mp3's I downloaded.
[20:47] <Dr_Link> Plays perfectly.
[20:47] <sheepmas> G_`: thanks I'd missed your reply. I'll give the boot params a go.
[20:47] <gordonjcp> Dr_Link: hm
[20:47] <tmapj> Xcell,  what is redo x?
[20:47] <sheepmas> Cheers.
[20:47] <fde> [Realin]: Do you have any extra hard drive space you could give you Ubuntu?
[20:47] <stephenweeven> /leave
[20:47] <gaintsura> SliMM: very interesting.. you could try that, or you could temporarily disable the other bootable devices and basically force it to boot to the cd
[20:47] <gordonjcp> Dr_Link: bit of an odd one, what did you change?
[20:47] <Dr_Link> Funny
[20:47] <Xcell> tmapj-- it will re -do the driver for you
[20:47] <keelobight> I'm trying to get my dual moniters working on ubuntu with an nvidia card...having no luck with twinview...any suggestions?
[20:47] <fde> [Realin]: could give to*
[20:47] <[Realin]> yeah, i got 20GB
[20:47] <Dr_Link> audio doesn't play in VIDEO though...
[20:47] <Dr_Link> strange, indeed.
[20:47] <tmapj> how do i do that xcell
[20:47] <Gaming4JC> (2:at:ii PM) ubottu: GamingaJC: ieet is nigh-incomprehensibie to us noobs, and nobody cares if UR a ieet haxor. Give it a rest.
[20:47] <fde> [Realin]: Already freed up?
[20:47] <Gaming4JC> Haxxor language
[20:48] <Kl4m> [Realin]: you have to install the vmware guest modules. They were in the repositories but I can't find them now (removed from 8.04?)
[20:48] <SliMM> gaintsura: how to disable? just pull out the wires?
[20:48] <gaintsura> well you could do that...
[20:48] <gaintsura> but I'd recommend doing it via bios
[20:48] <[Realin]> yes fde
[20:48] <keelobight> I'm trying to get my dual moniters working on ubuntu with an nvidia card...having no luck with twinview...any suggestions?
[20:48] <ompaul> Gaming4JC, ehh that is the channel bot - I asked it to tell you what it did - so please stay ontopic which is ubuntu support thanks
[20:48] <Xcell> tmapj-- reboot..when txt shows..hit (escape)..go into (recovery-mode)..look for X repair...use that
[20:48] <fde> [Realin]: Great! Have you downloaded an ISO?
[20:48] <[Realin]> thanks kl4m, but how do i look for it, shall i google or using apt-get ?
[20:48] <tmapj> ok
[20:48] <Gaming4JC> ok ompaul :)
[20:48] <tmapj> thanks
[20:48] <Xcell> ok
[20:48] <navetz> is there a way to do cp ./* ~/* and not replace files that already exist but rather give it a new filename?
[20:48] <amrik> !torrents
[20:48] <gaintsura> SliMM: you should be able to disable any other boot devices (something like setting 'Try other boot devices' to disabled) and setting it to boot from CD first
[20:49] <G_`> Dr_Link, if ur getting a specific video without audio then change audio track
[20:49] <[Realin]> fde, i am already using UBUNTU ? and i ordered a DVD from UBUNTU
[20:49] <SliMM> gaintsura: it's set to boot from CD first and from hd 0 second
[20:49] <SliMM> the hdd is empty
[20:49] <Slart> navetz: sometimes when I think cp doesn't do what I want I use rsync instead.. take a look at it.. see if it can do what you want
[20:49] <gaintsura> ok, so set the try other boot devices to disabled
[20:49] <keelobight> is anyone in here running dual monitors?
[20:49] <SliMM> gaintsura: but it tries the floppy
[20:49] <dbarnett> navetz: probably not without a script
[20:49] <Gaming4JC> Ok I'm going to get on LiveCD now from Hoary Hedgehog and see if I can get it started with my modem (The Heron is in the mail).
[20:50] <navetz> Slart: ok thanks.
[20:50] <fde> [Realin]: Cool... then what are you having difficulty with?
[20:50] <Gizmo_The_Great> Does anyone know how Linux software writers write applications that will detect other 'trial versions' of their software having been ran before on Ubuntu? I have an app that even if I download fresh and place in a seperate file, the trial period remains the same as the earlier downloaded instance. Without a registry (like Windows), how does it know?
[20:50] <praet> Q: Is it possible to scranble a plaintext password in a script file (bash)?
[20:50] <Slart> Gizmo_The_Great: never seen that kind of software in linux..
[20:50] <[Realin]> I am on virtaul machine, using VMWARE, where in UBUNTU is my guest OS and host is VISTA HOME
[20:50] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: there may be a hidden file in your homedir
[20:50] <Gaming4JC> brb going into Ubuntu
[20:50] <Gizmo_The_Great> Slart, me neither - that's why I was quite shocked
[20:50] <[Realin]> i need to share my VISTA drives to ubuntu
[20:50] <praet> Gizmo_The_Great: look for hidden files
[20:50] <Slart> Gizmo_The_Great: but the home folder and a .file there might work
[20:51] <smo> hi
[20:51] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: if you do "ls -al | less" then you can see all the files including hidden ones
[20:51] <sasddfg> which is the command to see the kernel version?
[20:51] <Kl4m> [Realin]: it seems Ubuntu dropped the vmware modules for ubuntu 8.04, in favor of open virtualization such as kvm or virtualbox. You'll have to find them somewhere else
[20:51] <Gizmo_The_Great> praet, Slart yes, good point. I will have a look
[20:51] <gordonjcp> sasddfg: uname -a
[20:51] <sasddfg> thks
[20:51] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: what is the app anyway?
[20:51] <[Realin]> shall i shift to kvm/virtualbox ??
[20:51] <praet> virtualbox is great :)
[20:51] <smo> i make some live cd... yesterday i had a kernel update in my chroot so i updated the initramfs, and it still ask for old kernel when booting!!
[20:51] <Gizmo_The_Great> gordonjcp, LightZone by LightCrafts (www.lightcrafts.com)
[20:51] <smo> an idear.?
[20:52] <PdUb101> is there a way to reset compiz to default settings?
[20:52] <keelobight> hi
[20:52] <keelobight> screw this
[20:52] <fde> [Realin]: You need to set up Sharing on the Windows box... then you be able to browse to it via Places > Network > Windows Network
[20:52] <[Realin]> letme check , thanks praet
[20:52] <praet> PdUb101: clear your settings
[20:52] <Kl4m> [Realin]: I recommend virtualbox. I had a vmware workstation 5 for work and went with virtualbox now
[20:52] <PdUb101> praet, how please?
[20:52] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: what's that, just something for fiddling with brightness and contrast?
[20:53] <praet> PdUb101: cssm (the config manager) > Preferences
[20:53] <smo> remove compiz dir in /home/xxx/.config PdUb101
[20:53] <smo> or by ccsm..
[20:53] <Gizmo_The_Great> gordonjcp, it's a raw photo processing tool for photographers
[20:53] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: hm, it handles .raw files?
[20:53] <praet> in ccsm there is a "reset to defaults button" but smo is right
[20:53] <[Realin]> cool, i am off to google for a while, see u guys, thanks for help :)
[20:53] <[Realin]> one more question, how do i backup the packages which i installed last night? i installed using sudo apt-get. I mean do i have download them everytime i do a clean install ?
[20:53] <Gizmo_The_Great> gordonjcp, yes - very much so
[20:54] <fde> [Realin]: VirtualBox is very nice... KVM allows you to run both OS's side by side, rather than virtualized though, so it's like dual booting without restarting  :)  - your hardware has to support it though.
[20:54] <Kl4m> !aptoncd | [Realin]
[20:54] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: http://my.opera.com/area42/blog/2007/01/16/working-with-raw-images-and-gimp
[20:54] <Starnestommy> !cloning > [Realin]
[20:54] <Asra> anyone else having the problem of Update Manager not starting installs?
[20:54] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: I tend to use command-line tools when I'm dealing with .raw images
[20:54] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: but then I'm usually dealing with a few thousand at a time ;-)
[20:54] <Slart> [Realin]: if you're going to install a lot of computers on some kind of internal network you can setup a apt cache.. !info apt-cache for more info
[20:54] <PdUb101> smo, ahh thank you!
[20:54] <luckz> theov riginal release of 8.04 was quite bugged, I heard. is it better now?
[20:54] <smo> np
[20:55] <[Realin]> move packages to other machine, can't i take a backup in dvd/cd ?
[20:55] <Kl4m> [Realin]: use aptoncd
[20:55] <johnathan> hey anyone know anything about DC++?
[20:55] <[Realin]> ok thanks li4m
[20:55] <luckz> johnathan: I know it's great software, but..
[20:55] <[Realin]> Kl4m :D
[20:55] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: the company I work for shoots timelapse images with DSLRs and specially-made controllers
[20:56] <luckz> sure not if you want to, say, transfer frogmeat to somebody else, but for file sharing it's great ;)
[20:56] <[Realin]> and why do i have to give password everytime and why cant i be root ? What is the password for root, when i din set it.. I mean i was not asked to do that
[20:56] <Gizmo_The_Great> gordonjcp, I have done before too - imagemagick especially. But LightZone has batch processing options. It's better than the GIMP, Photoshop and all those others. Works in 16-bit too. But I take your point - LightZone is not designed for those who take thousands of shots in a shoot - I doubt in your case if you have timelapse stuff to deal with it would not be suitable I don't think
[20:56] <out> õâàòèò ïèçäåòü
[20:56] <Kl4m> !sudo | [Realin]
[20:56] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: http://timelapse.designiscentral.com/
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[20:56] <luckz> johnathan: which direct connect implementation precisely are you trying to get to work?
[20:57] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: that's a building site, but it's going to be a museum.  We're shooting it at 6Mpix, every two minutes, for the next three years
[20:57] <[Realin]> wow this bot is great :P
[20:57] <Slart> !ru | out
[20:57] <Gizmo_The_Great> gordonjcp, good grief!! Imagemagick for you then!!
[20:57] <[Realin]> Artificially intelligent
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo | [Realin]
[20:58] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: the pic shown there on the page is done with imagemagick, scaled, cropped and then the overlays dropped in
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> [Realin] It saves us a lot of repetitive typing
[20:58] <IFeelDead> Damn, time is fuckin
[20:58] <Xcell> hey heye
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> IFeelDead Please watch the language
[20:59] <[Realin]> I WISH one day i too will have this knowledge,
[20:59] <zeroXten> lo all
[20:59] <Asra> guys ... gals? ... my update manager doesn't run updates ... it just sits there giving me a progress mouse pointer .. doing nothing
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix | Asra
[20:59] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: 9pm now, so that's the camera gone to bed for the night
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> [Realin] /join #ubuntu-bots
[20:59] <Asra> where do I type that Jack?
[20:59] <Gizmo_The_Great> In Windows theres a tool called 'FileMon' that shows you the files being created or edited when you run an application. Is there such a tool for Ubuntu?
[20:59] <Asra> terminal screen?
[21:00] <[Realin]> ﻿/join #ubuntu-bots
[21:00] <Gizmo_The_Great> gordonjcp, fair play mate!!
[21:00] <zeroXten> how do I diagnose compiz related problems? I've logged in to my laptop today and the theme is all broken (although still set to human). Its all blue =/
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Gizmo_The_Great: I want to run one for a full 24 hours, to catch the dawn (sun rises just behind the tower in the middle), and the sunset
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra yes in a terminal cli like it shows
[21:00] <Asra> kk
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> zeroXten turn off effects and see if the problem changes
[21:01] <[Realin]> thanks guys this thing rock :D
[21:01] <Asra> says !aptfix not found
[21:01] <Xcell> lol
[21:01] <petafile> I'm running a hardy live CD and it shows the splash screen, then dumps me to a shell on initramfs.  is there a way to fix this?
[21:02] <petafile> x86 on a dual p4 xeon intellisataion
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> IFeelDead Please dont keep changing your nick..it spams the channel
[21:02] <zeroXten> tried that, it didn't. Well, i was running with minimal effects, but i changed it a few times. I've tried compiz --replace and gtk-window-decorator --replace, but not luck
[21:02] <l815> anyone know how to install a motion eye laptop webcam?
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> zeroXten /join #compiz
[21:02] <Asra> Jack_Sparrow: it says Batch !aptfix not found
[21:03] <Xcell> Asra-->   sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:03] <zeroXten> i'm guessing its related to one of the many recent hardy updates
[21:03] <Xcell> in terminal
[21:03] <zeroXten> okay, cheers Jack_Sparrow
[21:03] <Technoviking> l815: http://www.sol4.net/linux/pb-video.shtml
[21:03] <LogiTech> mp4 touch resolution " 320X240" good for "MOVIES" ? if i convert dvd quality movies to mp4 touch "320X240" will it be with good picture???
[21:03] <l815> Technoviking, thanks
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> LogiTech Sounds a little light on the res to me
[21:04] <Alan_M> !aptfix | asra
[21:04] <Kl4m> LogiTech: it will be good on a 320x240 screen, most screens have much higher resolution than this. 320x240 is for portable devices or low-def TV
[21:04] <hohohoho> hello
[21:04] <hohohoho> help please
[21:04] <gaintsura> LogiTech: it is always better to go down in res then up, unless you've got one hell of a movie converter
[21:04] <kna> what do i need to rip DVDs?
[21:04] <hohohoho> how to make conky.rc
[21:04] <syrius`> so just tried recompiling the kernel following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile... i get to the log in screen, put in user/pass and then the screen goes white and stays like that... the mouse pointer is still visible and movable.. has anyone else seen this?
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kna k9copy
[21:04] <kna> i want to make 1.4 Gb images from DVDs ..
[21:04] <kna> ok
[21:04] <Asra> Xcell: Unable to resolve user
[21:04] <tmapj> xcell /
[21:05] <hohohoho> how to make conky.rc
[21:05] <Asra> !aptfix
[21:05] <Alan_M> asra, dont type !aptfix, type what ubotu says to do "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock and then type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:05] <Xcell> ya tmapj
[21:05] <LogiTech> hmmm...but look "iphone" resolution...and then look how good picture quality it got :P
[21:05] <Alan_M> in a terminal asra
[21:05] <tmapj> xcell now it just sits with the harddrive light on and it never goes off
[21:05] <Asra> I did
[21:05] <hohohoho> !conky.rc
[21:05] <hohohoho> !conky
[21:05] <Asra> both that commandline and the aptfix thing won't work
[21:05] <Myrtti> !info conky
[21:05] <SliMM> gaintsura: pretty tough to find a working floppy disk these days
[21:05] <ompaul> hohohoho, this is not #kubuntu which might be a better place to ask
[21:06] <syrius`> After recompiling the kernel following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile... i get to the log in screen, put in user/pass and then the screen goes white and stays like that... the mouse pointer is still visible and movable.. has anyone else seen this?
[21:06] <Xcell> wow.. no screen..tmap?
[21:06] <tmapj> no i have a screeen not
[21:06] <tmapj> now
[21:06] <Alan_M> asra, you do realize that typing "!aptfix" in a terminal window will most definately give you an error about a command not found right?
[21:06] <tmapj> i have a screen but the harddrive light is on and it wont shut off
[21:06] <Asra> command says can't resolve user
[21:06] <dbarnett> does anyone have issues with lockups switching between users? or Sometimes just locking the screen or logging out?
[21:07] <gaintsura> SliMM: got that right, I actually haven't seen a working floppydrive or disk in about 2 years
[21:07] <Asra> sorry .. can't resolve host
[21:07] <LogiTech> are the iphone and mp4 touch screen resolution different really that big?...
[21:07] <SliMM> gaintsura: well, the pc is quite old, so i suppose the fdd works
[21:07] <jsestri2> is there a way to download ubuntu through http / ftp right now? the website looks broken
[21:07] <manoff> nmap reports open http (port 80) and https (port 443) service in my laptop computer which has Windows XP installed in there but no web server, why is this?
[21:07] <Asra> and Alan_M ... I'm a regular Linux noob ... so no .. I didn't know
[21:07] <manoff> *services
[21:08] <tmapj> xcell?
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra are you only copying this to the terminal..    ..   sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:08] <manoff> any ideas+
[21:08] <manoff> ?
[21:08] <BLKNITE> hello everyone, finally got vmware 6.0.3 to work. if anyone else if having the same issue, here is a link that has the instruction to fix the issue: http://eitchpress.eitchnet.ch/?p=13
[21:08] <Xcell> force it to shut down tmapj
[21:08] <tmapj> ok
[21:08] <Xcell> then boot it back up
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra shift control - v
[21:08] <Alan_M> Jack_Sparrow, if im in the way let me know buddy :D
[21:08] <jsestri2> !ubotu download
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Alan_M not at all.
[21:08] <ompaul> !windows | manoff
[21:08] <Asra> no ... I type the part before the ; .. enter .. then type the stuff after .. enter ... both say can't resolve
[21:08] <jsestri2> !ubotu download ubuntu
[21:08] <Kl4m> !download | jsestri2
[21:08] <manoff> ah ok
[21:08] <LogiTech> Could anyone give me "sound and devices" channel name? how to join with it? it seems like this is not the right place..........................
[21:08] <out> pidorasi
[21:09] <ompaul> !sound | LogiTech
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra Are there other users configured on that system?
[21:09] <usser> !ru | out
[21:09] <syrius`> After recompiling the kernel following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile... i get to the log in screen, put in user/pass and then the screen goes white and stays like that... the mouse pointer is still visible and movable.. has anyone else seen this?
[21:09] <Kl4m> LogiTech: there is a #alsa
[21:09] <Asra> nope ... only me and root (which should be me too)
[21:09] <syrius`> I'm looking online but don't see anything regarding this issue
[21:09] <ompaul> jsestri2, www.ubuntu.com and look at the download link
[21:09] <LogiTech> Kl4m thank you
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> LogiTech /join #alsa   also works
[21:09] <Alan_M> Asra, you enabled the root account?
[21:09] <LogiTech>  /join #alsa
[21:09] <Asra> ohw ... and my other pc has access to the harddrive
[21:10] <ompaul> !supportroot | Alan_M
[21:10] <dbarnett> win 2
[21:10] <out> usser da mne tut ne ploho posmotret kak americanci pizdyat kruglie sutki
[21:10] <Xcell> tmapj- did you update or clean install?
[21:10] <Asra> yeah Alan_m .. I did to try the commandline
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra did you setup a root password?
[21:10] <Asra> yes ..
[21:10] <ompaul> !root | Asra
[21:10] <ompaul> it tells you how to disable it Asra
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra not a good idea
[21:10] <Kl4m> ok stop spamming the root stuff, we know
[21:11] <ompaul> Kl4m, as long as someone uses it we will have to tell them the way :-(
[21:11] <gaintsura> lol I set the root password on mine when I first got my ubuntu install running
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Kl4m Obviously some people dont
[21:11] <syrius`> anyone familiar with kernel compilations that would know why a white screen would appear after login right after installing a freshly compiled image?
[21:12] <syrius`> i thought last night it did it because the laptop froze halfway through the compile, so i did the whole compile again this morning, and the same issue happened
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> syrius` What were you trying to accomplish by compiling your own kernel
[21:12] <syrius`> im writing custom device drivers
[21:12] <ompaul> syrius`, then it looks like you broke something else
[21:12] <ompaul> before the compile
[21:12] <jrib> man tar
[21:12] <Asra> ok .. root pw fixed ... even gave me an can't resolve host on that command btw
[21:13] <Xcell> tmapj
[21:13] <syrius`> ok
[21:13] <syrius`> hmm
[21:13] <_Christian> hi ?
[21:13] <newibae> Can anyone help me get out of this low graphics mode... I tried installing nvidia drivers on my own and have been stuck with lowgraphics mode for 2 days
[21:13] <syrius`> i used the instructions from the ubuntu site, i'll try a diff one
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra sounds like more is borked up than just the updates
[21:13] <ompaul> !resolution | newibae
[21:13] <gaintsura> anyone know why I cant upgrade gdm? ubuntu is telling me that there is an update for it, but when I go to get it, says location not found
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> syrius` try compiling with no changes just to make sure nothing else is going on
[21:13] <danand> syrius` - did you compile your gfx card driver yourself? if your using a new kernel name or such you might need to recompile your gfx driver.... had this issue before...
[21:13] <SliMM> gaintsura: i think i've found a working floppy disk
[21:14] <Asra> hmmm .. not really .. all is working fine except that ... must say ... updates are still trying to run as we speak though
[21:14] <gaintsura> SliMM: lol nice
[21:14] <syrius`> I am using an ATI Radeon Mobility driver, and using the restricted-modules to support it
[21:14] <SliMM> gaintsura: yeah, i did, just some old TIFFs
[21:14] <syrius`> but did not recompile those yet
[21:14] <syrius`> i was undert he impression i had to do the initial compile/install before i could recompile the restricted modules
[21:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra Updates wont run and sudo has issues etc..
[21:14] <cotorrux> hello, im new here, can someone help me with a little problem?
[21:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[21:15] <_Christian> hi i need help i have my ubuntu server 8.04 installed and i conect other hd to slave for more space in the pc
[21:15] <syrius`> danand: I need to recompile gfx drivers before the kernel compile is what you're saying?
[21:15] <_Christian> but the bios yes detect but when iniciate the ubuntu only i have 1 hd :/ !
[21:15] <syrius`> on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomRestrictedModules it says: Note: this will only work if you have created AND installed linux-image and linux-header or linux-source packages
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> cotorrux Welcome.. Please just try and form the best question possible
[21:16] <Gaming4JC> hello again, I have some troubles... :(
[21:16] <cotorrux> ok..how can i charge in the console the xfce goodies after install?
[21:16] <SliMM> gaintsura: ha! a working GRUB floppy
[21:16] <Gaming4JC> I can't compile this since I can't get the compilation tools without being online, if some one could please make a deb for: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-6_for_Ubuntu-2.6.15-23-386.tgz much creditz and thanks. :)
[21:16] <syrius`> I'm also using the up to date kernel, just recompiling it and for the --append-to-version i'm just doing 'rupert', my machine name
[21:16] <ganjaman> i need weedbuntu
[21:16] <Kl4m> _Christian, first you have to edit partitions on this disk if necessary. using fdisk or cfdisk or parted. You can see partitions for all local disks with sudo fdisk -l
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ganjaman Cute.. but offtopic
[21:17] <danand> syrius` - no ... just that you may need to recompile the gfx drivers against the new version of the kernel your running. I had this problem with my nvidia card on an old debian box. each time i recompiled the kernel (i was always screwing up my options :)) i had to recompile the gfx drivers before X would work again...
[21:17] <_Christian> ·<{Kl4m}>·
[21:17] <syrius`> ahhhh
[21:17] <ganjaman> kl4m roger
[21:17] <newibae> I need help reinstalling the nvidia restricted drivers to get out of Low-graphics mode
[21:17] <newibae> helpppp
[21:17] <ompaul> !resolution | newibae
[21:17] <Kl4m> _Christian: if you don't need to touch any paritions on it, you need to edit (yeah unfortunately...) /etc/fstab to use the files on the partitions
[21:17] <gaintsura> SliMM: even better, now see if you can boot to the cd from there
[21:17] <Kl4m> !fstab | _Christian
[21:17] <ganjaman> !call kl4m
[21:17] <syrius`> danand: So i would compile the new kernel, just not run it yet.. recompile the restricted-modules, then load the new kernel?
[21:18] <ompaul> ganjaman, what you doing?
[21:18] <Xcell> newibae--  also install nvidia settings manager..works good
[21:18] <newibae> its not finding my nvidia drivers
[21:18] <abyss> lo anyone can assist me in installing a graphic tablet Aiptek HyperPen 8000 (x-server drivers for hyperpen and aiptek already installed)!?
[21:18] <_Christian> ok ok wait..
[21:18] <newibae> I hav a green bar for half the screen
[21:18] <Gaming4JC> !guessthenumber
[21:18] <Gaming4JC> :-/
[21:18] <ganjaman> ah i think kl4m is a ham callsing
[21:18] <Asra> Jack ... send you a private message .. hope you don't mind
[21:18] <SliMM> gaintsura: well, that's the problem
[21:18] <ompaul> !offtopic
[21:18] <gaintsura> SliMM: ??
[21:18] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC Please dont abuse the bot.. he gets angry
[21:19] <ganjaman> cq i got a problem
[21:19] <SliMM> gaintsura: how can i do that?
[21:19] <Gaming4JC> oh.
[21:19] <Kl4m> I don't do ham only bacon
[21:19] <Xcell> qsk
[21:19] <newibae> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver Please edit your X configureation
[21:19] <newibae> then I type nvidia-xconfig as root and same crap happens
[21:19] <gaintsura> add a new line in the grub, /dev/hda0 (I think thats right, you might want to check with someone else to make sure)
[21:20] <ompaul> Kl4m, ehh you are offtopic
[21:20] <syrius`> ok tryin to recompile restricted-modules first lets give this a try
[21:20] <leonardus> We wish to setupa a linux user group in our college can you let me know what are the official procedures involved in it
[21:20] <Asra> Uhm ... Jack_Sparrow?
[21:20] <ganjast> heh
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra YEs?
[21:20] <gaintsura> is there a way to add the force option in the /etc/fstab file to a drive?
[21:21] <Alan_M> leonardus, not the room to ask about that, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:21] <Asra> could you come to the IM I opened
[21:21] <newibae> sudoneo
[21:21] <luckz> leonardus: I'm not sure what kind of 'official procedures' there could be
[21:21] <ganjast> i got a problem with fstab
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gaintsura I would not routinely force a drive in fstab..
[21:21] <newibae> NO Proprietary drivers are in use on this system......... What do i do
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | Asra
[21:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ganjast Please describe the problem.
[21:22] <ganjast> how can i change from ext3 to xfs without reinstall ubuntu?
[21:22] <Jack_Sparrow> newibae try envyng
[21:22] <Asra> *sigh* ... ok
[21:22] <danand> syrius` - hmmm.... not sure... can you not get to a shell to try and fix/compile your driver with your new kernel running? By the way have you looked in your X logs to see what is causing the problem... may not be anything to do with the gfx driver or kernel ... I would try and look at those first...
[21:22] <syrius`> danand: would i be able to PM you for a moment?
[21:22] <danand> ok
[21:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ganjast That isnt an fstab issue..  more like a death wish..    make a backup
[21:22] <ganjast> is there something like a convertfs /dev/sda1 ext3 xfs or command?
[21:23] <Asra> I'll see what it does after restart since I now took of my Root pw
[21:23] <Xcell> lol
[21:23] <Kl4m> ganjast: you can't change the filesystem from ext to xfs without formatting that partition. You need a backup, then reformat, and put the files back
[21:23] <ganjast> i have everything backed up
[21:23] <ganjast> but only the files, not the settings
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ganjast everything...  not just your files
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[21:24] <SliMM> gaintsura: no idea? :-s
[21:24] <Kl4m> ganjast: Is this "another" partition or the / partition
[21:24] <NetTroller> I have a friend been trying for days to install ubuntu..this is his most recent error if anybody has any suggestions:Filesystem type is ntfs, partition type 0x7
[21:24] <NetTroller> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24 - generic root = UUID = 8AECFA00ECF9E67B loop = / ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro quiet splash
[21:24] <ganjast> ext3 is slow with tons of data
[21:24] <NetTroller> Error 15:  File not found
[21:24] <NetTroller> ^^ thats his error
[21:25] <Kl4m> ganjast: who said that. I backup 60 machines worth of data on a ext3 partition. no problem.
[21:25] <Kl4m> daily
[21:25] <AcornAcorn> how can i run a .hta file in ubuntu?
[21:26] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: hey dude
[21:26] <ganjast> acorn install interenet exploiter
[21:26] <Kl4m> AcornAcorn: I think Firefox can open .hta files, if not then good luck
[21:27] <AcornAcorn> Kl4m: it just asks me where i want to download it to
[21:27] <leo22> HOLA AGUNA CHICA
[21:27] <leo22> Q KIERA ENTABLAR AMISTAD
[21:27] <FloodBot3> leo22: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <ganjast> maybe to /dev/tandy
[21:27] <leo22> Y LUEGO ALGO MAS.....
[21:27] <Gaming4JC> Hmm, quick question: IF I compile a deb on HedgeHog will it work on Heron, or vice versa?
[21:27] <leo22> ME LLAMO jOSE aNGEL
[21:27] <leo22> TENGO 22 AÑOS
[21:27] <Gaming4JC> anyone know?
[21:28] <linx> g'day
[21:28] <_Christian> alugien abla español ?
[21:28] <DJones> !english | leo22
[21:28] <linx> yo
[21:28] <Alan_M> Gaming4JC, it should as not much on it has changed.
[21:28] <ganjast> habla esbunghole?
[21:28] <linx> chrian
[21:28] <Alan_M> !es
[21:28] <_Christian> ok.
[21:28] <Gaming4JC> ok thnx
[21:28] <_Christian> i need mount
[21:28] <_Christian> my other hd ?
[21:28] <linx> G'day you all
[21:28] <_Christian> how i can ?
[21:28] <Xcell> hello linx
[21:29] <Kl4m> _Christian: use the mount command, or /etc/fstab to mount at boot
[21:29] <linx> anyone knows the status of the mobile flavour project ?
[21:29] <_Christian> iam in the fstab
[21:29] <linx> from where can I pick it up ?
[21:29] <rodolfo> have you downloaded firefox 3 @ DD? http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/
[21:29] <hub> when i click the Shutdown button right side gnome doesnt work(mouse works) why ? a chronic problehm ? Nvidia Driver is installed and works.
[21:29] <NetTroller> can you install ubuntu on NTFS drive?
[21:29] <_Christian> but what i do with da d?
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> NetTroller no
[21:29] <AcornAcorn> what's the best way to get codecs?
[21:29] <_Christian> that*
[21:29] <Gaming4JC> Other thing, how do I compile things without internet access? Or could some one do it...
[21:30] <hub> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:30] <NetTroller> thanks Jack_Sparrow  ..that explains the error a friend is getting
[21:30] <Gaming4JC> it's my modem driver...
[21:30] <Starnestommy> Gaming4JC: you'll need to use another computer with net access to download build-essential and its dependencies from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[21:30] <Xcell> bbiab
[21:30] <Jack_Sparrow> NetTroller Technically wubi runs on ntfs.. but I didnt think that is what you meant
[21:30] <hub> build-essential ; The Standart C Libary
[21:31] <iDope> which package contains dd_recover?
[21:31] <iDope> anyone?
[21:31] <DavidCraft> I have teh latest ubuntu server, what is the correct way to add users...   adduser or useradd ?
[21:31] <linx> from long time a go I'm try to find the ubuntu embedded version or mobile one
[21:31] <_Christian> ·<{D0net1}>·
[21:31] <Gaming4JC> hmm...
[21:31] <_Christian> ·<{DavidCraft}>· adduser
[21:31] <snarkster> hi is there a text mode version of evolution?
[21:32] <hub> when i click the Shutdown button right side gnome doesnt work(mouse works) why ? a chronic problehm ? Nvidia Driver is installed and works.
[21:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> snarkster: yeah, pine
[21:32] <NetTroller> Jack_Sparrow: I have a freind been trying for days to get ubuntu installed on his HD...dual boot with XP ..and thats the error he's getting..what I posted above..mentions NTFS and I wonder if thats why it won't install?
[21:32] <Jack_Sparrow> NetTroller Correct.. he cannot install to a regular ntfs partition
[21:33] <Technoviking> where can I set the font Java applications (java -jar app.jar) use?
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> NetTroller Stick with default ext3
[21:33] <gribiii> hi @all
[21:33] <snarkster> oh hahaha
[21:33] <NetTroller> ty Jack_Sparrow
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[21:33] <snarkster> pine eh? thought that was dead
[21:33] <gribiii> is there someone who has experience with xen?
[21:33] <iDope> dd_recover anyone???
[21:34] <iDope> where can I get it
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !find dd
[21:34] <iDope> google isnt helping much here
[21:34] <iDope> :)
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> iDope google hirenscd
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> iDope google hirens cd
[21:34]  * Gaming4JC *sighs* looks like I can't compile it...
[21:34] <iDope> hokay
[21:34] <Gaming4JC> there should be winmodem support imo
[21:34] <etronik> trying to upgrade from 6.06 (Dapper) to latest 8.04 (Hardy Heron?) - anybody done it ??
[21:35] <Gaming4JC> How about me, Hedgehog to Heron? xD
[21:35] <iDope> but Jack_Sparrow I want dd_recover on ubuntu
[21:35] <Gaming4JC> no support for Hedgehog lol
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC It has to do with open source, propietary drivers and WIndows only hardware
[21:35] <Gaming4JC> oh
[21:35] <gribiii> some installed xen on ubuntu 8.04?
[21:35] <Gaming4JC> still
[21:35] <Gaming4JC> there is open source drivers?
[21:35] <esref> hello
[21:35] <Gaming4JC> is it not possible to package them into Ubuntu
[21:35] <esref> yes
[21:35] <Gaming4JC> or legalities of some kind
[21:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC no it is not
[21:36] <Gaming4JC> ?...
[21:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | Gaming4JC
[21:36] <Alan_M> Gaming4JC, try to keep your responses in one line man....
[21:36] <esref> damn
[21:36] <Gaming4JC> ok.
[21:36] <Alan_M> errr...heh too late.
[21:36] <esref> ok
[21:37] <esref> 44444445555
[21:37] <thehurley> hello, i'm trying to get my zyxel m102 wireless network card working under ubuntu 8.04.  I've followed a guide in a thread (http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556714), but the card doesn't seem to be powering on.  http://pastebin.com/d4fef5df7
[21:37] <thehurley> any advice?
[21:37] <erpo> What should the directory ownership and permissions be on ~/.dbus ?
[21:38] <Gaming4JC> OK, What I am wondering is why there is no official support (on Ubuntu or any distro) for WinModems. If it be legaliteis it seems kind of strange since it's Open Source coding... Also, there should be a list of distributers with Linux 'Hardware' Modems that is well defined. just a thought.
[21:38] <erpo> Gaming4JC: Winmodem manufacturers don't release documentation on how their hardware works, so FOSS driver writers can't write drivers. It's nothing to do with the law.
[21:39] <Jatz> winmodem manufacturers are jerks
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC We cant provide drivers for your winmodem.. for one dialup is dead and no one wants to bother..  There is a list of supported hardware available.. and was linked for you earlier
[21:39] <virtuald> sound from the adobe flash plugin in stopped working, where can i look for error messages?
[21:39] <erpo> Jack_Sparrow: Dialup is not dead. I just hooked a friend up to dialup and I had to put windows on her PC because her modem wasn't supported under linux.
[21:39] <Gaming4JC> What about the drivers here? http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ couldn't they be included then
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> virtuald Run ff in a terminal
[21:39] <Gaming4JC> Yes, dial-up is still popular here :-/
[21:39] <Jatz> quick question: what's a command to get the total size of a folder?
[21:40] <erpo> Jack_Sparrow: She was using Linux just fine before that at a place with DSL, but that wasn't available at her new home.
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> erpo exactly my point
[21:40] <Asra> Jack_Sparrow: Found it ... the resolving host thing ... Sudo Nano /etc/Hosts ... then at the 127.0.1.1 add the name of the local computer .. somehow that got erased at some earlier patchwork
[21:40] <Starnestommy> Jack_Sparrow: du -h
[21:40] <Starnestommy> er, Jatz
[21:40] <HSorgYves> morning, when i see "^L" as character (not the 2 character sequence) in pico, how can i type it from my keyboard?
[21:40] <Asra> now I hope I can install the updates
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Asra hope it works
[21:40] <virtuald> HSorgYves: ctrl-l
[21:40] <Gaming4JC> erpo: Did you try some drivers at this site? http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[21:41] <Asra> Like a charm!!
[21:41] <Gaming4JC> It seems to work if I could only compile it...
[21:41] <Asra> its updating now :)
[21:41] <l815> had to run a dpkg configure and it's stuck trying to load module r5u870.. how can i fix it?
[21:41] <danand> Jatz - du -sh flodername
[21:41] <HSorgYves> virtuald: not for the menu commands... inside a text file
[21:41] <Gaming4JC> only site with working links ;) linmodems is down btw (all the links broken)
[21:41] <virtuald> sorry, don't know
[21:41] <cens0red> What does this error mean? "The application 'evolution' (/usr/bin/evolution) wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked"
[21:41] <Jack_Sparrow> erpo So she installed an expensive OS.. $100 instead of buying a supported modem for under $25.. not very smart
[21:42] <virtuald> it might be impossible to do with pico
[21:42] <Childi> Hi
[21:42] <erpo> Jack_Sparrow: $0.
[21:42] <virtuald> (i.e. read the documentation)
[21:42] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: She probably couldn't find a modem. I looked everywhere for Linux ones
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> erpo Piracy is not supported here..
[21:42] <erpo> Jack_Sparrow: The computer was bought used with a windows license. I just removed it to install Linux when she had DSL, which she was quite happy with.
[21:42] <jack-desktop> I can't get any music to play on my computer (local files, internet sound works fine)
[21:42] <Yachaziel> !piracy | erpo
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC virtually every external modem is a true hardware modem
[21:43] <l815> had to run a dpkg configure and it's stuck trying to load module r5u870.. how can i fix it?
[21:43] <erpo> Yachaziel: Please read my comment to Jack_Sparrow.
[21:43] <Gaming4JC> virtually?
[21:43] <Gaming4JC> /me guesses he will get a bad one.
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> erpo even with the free license, she now has to deal with adware, spyware, antivirus.. those are not free
[21:44] <Childi> Hey, i got an problem. I was thinking to get my country's tv channel. But when i launched caffeine and thinked to scan the list, i saw theres not my country on the list at all, i just got "at-Inssbruck". Help please (:
[21:44] <Jack_Sparrow> erpo not to mention what your time was worh installing it for her
[21:44] <erpo> Jack_Sparrow: I like Linux as much as the next guy, but she barely uses her computer. Word processing and email. No attachments.
[21:44] <Yachaziel> erpo: I agree with Jack_Sparrow, still.
[21:44] <erpo> Yachaziel: I didn't pirate anything.
[21:44] <HSorgYves_> re
[21:45] <Methoxypropan> Hello
[21:45] <erpo> Jack_Sparrow: She helped me start my business. I owe her a lot of time.
[21:45] <Childi> Hey, i got an problem. I was thinking to get my country's tv channel. But when i launched caffeine and thinked to scan the list, i saw theres not my country on the list at all, i just got "at-Inssbruck". Help please (:
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> erpo I dint mean to drift offtopic and into discussion, just trying to point out the irony of that situation
[21:45] <Gaming4JC> erpo: Haven't you found it a pain to get linux modem drivers too? All I'm saying is they need support for it and a lot of people still use Dial-Up...
[21:45] <Gaming4JC> :)
[21:45] <Childi> So how i can download the scanning tv channel list? whats the command?
[21:45] <erpo> Jack_Sparrow: Anyway, the point is that lack of winmodem support is what caused the switch to Windows.
[21:46] <l815> what do i do when terminal is stuck loading a module ?
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC Buy the driver..  something like $30...
[21:46] <erpo> Jack_Sparrow: Not that I fault Ubuntu for not having winmodem support. That's unreasonable to ask.
[21:46] <l815> nvm
[21:46] <l815> it finally finished :)
[21:46] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: WHERE can I buy it, me pay, me pay! lol
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> let me look...
[21:46] <etronik> my 6.06 to 8.04 upgrade via update-manager gives me an "unresolvable  problem while calculating the upgrade" - so what are my options ??
[21:47] <Gaming4JC> PC-TEL HSP56 MicroModem, also willing to buy a good modem.
[21:47] <erpo> Gaming4JC: Yes, it is a pain. Also, I don't feel the Linux dial-up supporting utilities are as polished as the Windows versions.
[21:47] <Roughneck_cowboy> hello, I installed my Nvidiadriver which appears in "system tools" but my card is not recognised in "system -> drivers"
[21:47] <Gaming4JC> agreed.
[21:47] <zvacet> etronik : is your Dapper up to date
[21:47] <etronik> zvacet: yep
[21:47] <Miesco> How do I get the Debian menu?
[21:48] <linx> ubuntu mobile project is died ?
[21:48] <zvacet> etronik : if you have any third party repos in your source list comment them
[21:48] <linx> no code to be downloaded
[21:48] <etronik> zvacet: I did :-)
[21:48] <l815> anyone experiencing Firefox causing ubuntu to crawl after a period of time?
[21:48] <hub> anywhere a tutorial how make a deamon  ?
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/
[21:49] <Gaming4JC> ok looking...
[21:49] <zvacet> Miesco :     sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg sudo dpkg-reconfigure menu sudo dpkg-reconfigure menu-xdg
[21:49] <erpo> Gaming4JC: Do you have a serial port on your PC?
[21:49] <zvacet> etronik : try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:50] <Yachaziel> No cereal ports. I'm all out of milk. =)
[21:50] <Gaming4JC> erpo: It's being used by a DexDrive, but yes.
[21:50] <etronik> zvacet: ok, will try that
[21:50] <erpo> Gaming4JC: If you get a modem that connects to the serial port, it will work with Linux.
[21:50] <HSorgYves_> when i see "^L" as character (not the 2 character sequence) in a text in pico (not the command line), how can i type it from my keyboard?
[21:50] <erpo> Gaming4JC: Unless you go way out of your way to find some nonstandard thing that doesn't.
[21:50] <Gaming4JC> erpo: Where would I get one? (gives up after days of googleing)
[21:50] <jokoon> Hello, I'm a G4 ibook user, powerpc shit etc, I'm getting an error each time synaptic or update manager finishes his job, like ld script return error 0 about open office latex thing... I tried remove completely, but I still have the error ...
[21:51] <Yachaziel> HSorgYves_: Like ^L ?
[21:51] <HSorgYves_> Yachaziel: that is 2 characters...
[21:51]  * Gaming4JC thinks of a million dollar idea! *gasp* a Linux Modem shop.
[21:51] <erpo> Gaming4JC: You can also get internal PCI modems that will work with Linux, but it's more difficult to pick a winner.
[21:51] <Yachaziel> HSorgYves_: I mean, that's the sequence, not the symbol, in pico?
[21:52] <erpo> Gaming4JC: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2052810018+1126509664&Configurator=&Subcategory=18&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=
[21:52] <moonyloony> i can't see my NTFS partition?help pls...
[21:52] <dave_X> where is the root of kernel source?
[21:52] <etronik> zvacet: well, sudo apt-get update and upgrade 0> 0 upgrade, 0 installed, 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded
[21:52] <erpo> dave_X: /usr/src/linux, if you have it installed and unpacked.
[21:52] <_Christian> i want umount my hd but says "its bussy"
[21:52] <Gaming4JC> looking now erpo...
[21:52] <HSorgYves_> Yachaziel: that is what I see, however when moving the cursor it jumps over the L
[21:52] <_Christian> how i ca n?
[21:52] <rodrego> hola
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC AIrlink has an external available
[21:52] <rafase282> hello
[21:52] <rafase282> I need hel with compiz
[21:53] <Gaming4JC> hmm anything around $25
[21:53]  * Gaming4JC looks expensive O_o
[21:53] <dave_X> how to unpaxk a tar.bz2
[21:53] <dave_X>  with command line?
[21:53] <rafase282> when i try to use extra for visual effects the windows hide the buttons
[21:53] <Starnestommy> dave_X: tar xjf file.tar.bz2
[21:53] <rafase282> help*
[21:53] <dave_X> ty
[21:53] <HSorgYves_> Yachaziel: when using more with the file, it stops at that point and wait for a key input (even if the page is not full yet); it must be a control character
[21:54] <Gaming4JC> erpo: Would a Trendnet work on linux? (Also, I'm still looking for PCI Internal)...
[21:54] <moonyloony> how can i mount my ntfs partition ?:(
[21:54] <erpo> Gaming4JC: If it connects via a serial port, then yes.
[21:54] <rafase282> can anyone help me with compiz?
[21:54] <zvacet> etronik : and you followed procedure lioke it is described https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[21:54] <codecaine> moonyloony using the mount command
[21:54] <neavbie> cAN SOMEONE ANSWER THIS
[21:55] <rodrego> help plis
[21:55] <moonyloony> more specific
[21:55] <erpo> Gaming4JC: What you want in a PCI modem is a device that actually pretends to be a serial port (connected to a modem). These are sometimes called "hardware modems" as opposed to "software modems" or "winmodems".
[21:55] <neavbie> I forgot the command I ran... something about  install nvidia glx
[21:55] <codecaine> whats the question
[21:55] <neavbie> Do u know what that command was
[21:55] <neavbie> that actually worked for me
[21:55] <etronik> zvacet: yes, exactly to the point ! not too much too it really ...
[21:55] <samadi> quit
[21:55] <Starnestommy> neavbie: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[21:55] <neavbie> yes..
[21:55] <neavbie> thanks
[21:55] <codecaine> just open synaptics and type in nvidia
[21:55] <codecaine> neavbie and you will see
[21:55] <rodrego> e instalado el azureus y no encuentro el directorio donde estan mis descargas
[21:55] <rodrego> soy nuevo en linux por eso
[21:55] <neavbie> synaptics wont open for me in low graphics mode
[21:56] <Gaming4JC> erpo: I know what I'm looking for but I've yet to find a place that sells them. (My ISP said in quote "uhhhhhhh.....no sorry *click*".)
[21:56] <neavbie> I typed nvidia-xconfigure
[21:56] <neavbie> and it went back to low graphics mode..
[21:56] <daniele> tu.it
[21:56] <erpo> Gaming4JC: Unfortunate.
[21:56] <Gaming4JC> lol
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> moonyloony sudo fdisk and verify the partition you want to mount... sudo mkdir /media/Descriptive_Name_for_Mount... gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda(x)              /media/sda5-ntfs     ntfs-3g users,auto,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=007 0 0        then mount -a to re-read your fstab settings.  Note.. disable any previous mounts in your fstab pointing to the same drive/partition
[21:56] <codecaine> you probably jus tneed to edit the neavbie xorg.conf
[21:56] <zvacet> etronik : Only thing I can think of is to rty with Hardy alternate CD
[21:56] <neavbie> how codecaine?
[21:57] <rodrego> hola
[21:57] <codecaine> sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:57] <Gaming4JC> erpo: Do they sell hardware modems at newegg, and if so I need some way to identify it?...
[21:57] <erpo> Gaming4JC: I'm looking right now, but it's hard to tell.
[21:57] <Gaming4JC> I know :(
[21:58] <simone> ciao
[21:58]  * Gaming4JC is seriously considering opening up a Linux PC Parts show, with Linux modems! :D $$$
[21:58] <Prose> is samba, can I share a folder twice? can i have two shares pointing at the same folder ?
[21:58] <Gaming4JC> *shop
[21:58] <erpo> Gaming4JC: http://www.topmicrousa.com/in56kharmodp.html
[21:58] <erpo> Gaming4JC: That one claims to be a hardware modem, but I don't know anything about the reputation of the store.
[21:58] <neavbie> Unable to lock the administration director
[21:59] <neavbie> when i type apt-get install nvidia-glx
[21:59] <Gaming4JC> yah...
[21:59] <erpo> Gaming4JC: http://www.ictcompany.com/store/products.php?id=1620&idr=37
[21:59] <codecaine> Samba allows you to share files over your network propose
[21:59] <erpo> Gaming4JC: That one too.
[21:59] <erpo> Gaming4JC: I'm searching froogle.com for hardware modem.
[21:59] <erpo> Gaming4JC: As in, those are the keywords I'm using.
[21:59] <codecaine> neavbie type sudo before the command
[21:59] <Prose> codecaine: indeed it does, but do you think I can have two shares pointed at the same folder ?
[21:59] <Gaming4JC> erpo: ok thanks. I've searched quite a bit no luck. At least your getting some things, lol.
[22:00] <codecaine> why would you have 2 share points?
[22:00] <codecaine> you can if you rename the shares
[22:00] <giancarlo> salve a tutti
[22:00] <codecaine> but point to the same path
[22:00] <Mac40DO> Hi! Hiw can I prevent dpkg from trying to configure a package each time I install something?
[22:00] <giancarlo> ho un probl
[22:00] <Myrtti> !it > giancarlo
[22:00] <Prose> codecaine: all right so [share1] path = /        and [share2] path =/    could work
[22:01] <giancarlo> in poche parole ho messo avant per avere una visione 3d
[22:01] <perillux> I need to make a small modification to a python script...  so.. how can I run terminal commands from within the script?
[22:01] <codecaine> correct
[22:01] <sadaiyappan> Hi
[22:01] <sadaiyappan> I have a problem with epsxe.
[22:01] <Prose> codecaine: awesome, thanks
[22:01] <Miesco> Where are the ubuntu splash's stored?
[22:01] <codecaine> np
[22:01] <Miesco> For gnome
[22:01] <zvacet> giancarlo : can you say i in English,please
[22:01] <sadaiyappan> When I try to run bios it starts up then quits immediately.
[22:01] <giancarlo> ma adesso mison reso conto che gli effetti 3d appesantiscono il mio sistema, allora li ho tolti ma non ho piu' l,applet per cambiare le finestre attive come posso reinserirlo?
[22:01] <Myrtti> !it | giancarlo
[22:02] <giancarlo> sorry
[22:02] <codecaine> sadiyappan ubuntu has nothing to do with your bios
[22:02] <codecaine> from the sound of it you may have a bad bios
[22:02] <sadaiyappan> i know, i have a problem running epsxe
[22:02] <giancarlo> i thought that is the italian
[22:02] <giancarlo> ok tnx
[22:02] <sadaiyappan> not my PC BIOS
[22:02] <sadaiyappan> but my psx bios
[22:02] <Daisuke_Ido> sadaiyappan: here's an idea, go buy a ps2
[22:02] <perillux> ﻿I need to make a small modification to a python script...  so.. how can I run terminal commands from within the script?
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> acquiring the bios is illegal
[22:03] <sadaiyappan> hey daisuke_ido
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> unless you dump it from your own console
[22:03] <sadaiyappan> hey daisuke_ido I have a PS3
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not a psx or a ps2
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> doesn't count.
[22:03] <Gaming4JC> true.
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> even a ps2 wouldn't count, because the emulators require a psx bios
[22:04] <sadaiyappan> it starts up then quits immediately
[22:04] <sadaiyappan> i just got the sound and video plugins configured
[22:04] <Gaming4JC> If you own the system your emulating it's usually legal. (Considering you got the console from a good source)
[22:04] <NetTroller> could there be a problem installing ubuntu on a xp system running Acronis ?
[22:04] <neavbie> HOW DO I INSTALL nvidia proprietary drivers
[22:04] <neavbie> this should fix it for me
[22:04] <sadaiyappan> hey neavbie
[22:04] <sadaiyappan> they tell you how on the nvidia website
[22:04] <Gaming4JC> erpo: Does this DexDrive use the same port as an External Modem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DexDrive
[22:05] <Gaming4JC> erpo: Then I'll know what a serial port looks like. :)
[22:05] <dave_X> can someone help me with this please ? >>>http://pastebin.com/m5e656f08
[22:05] <erpo> Gaming4JC: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Serial_port.jpg/800px-Serial_port.jpg
[22:05] <Starnestommy> perillux: make sure that os has been imported, then use os.system('command to run')
[22:05] <erpo> Gaming4JC: A serial port looks like that.
[22:06] <Gaming4JC> erpo: thanks :D (gives me a good idea what to look for now...
[22:06] <Gin> Is it possible to configure nautilus to put the full path in the
[22:06] <Gin> titlebar?
[22:06] <Gaming4JC> Antoher questions, does a DexDrive work on linux? :s
[22:06] <erpo> Gaming4JC: Note that the connector at the end of the modem's cable will be female.
[22:06] <dave_X> can someone help me with this please ? >>>http://pastebin.com/m5e656f08
[22:06] <Gaming4JC> ok
[22:06] <dave_X> erpo can u help me with that?
[22:06] <johnathan> can someone please help me with direct connect
[22:07] <Alan_M> Gin, sure, in nautilus do you see something that looks like a piece of paper with a pencil in front of it?
[22:07] <erpo> dave_X: Don't use bestcrypt. Use truecrypt instead. No compilation needed and it's open source. Problem solved.
[22:07] <pale-yafa> hi, quanta usually acts great and show suggestions when I need to enter strings only, but some times it just start showing suggestions all the time, how to solve that ?
[22:08] <Gin> Alan_M: yea, I see that
[22:08] <Alan_M> gin, click it :D
[22:08] <jdenhaer> Hello all
[22:08] <erpo> dave_X: Or, use LUKS on Linux and FreeOTFE on Windows.
[22:08] <iso> Hi
[22:08] <gator> hello all...i am a new Ubuntu user here and could use some help if you's don't mind??
[22:08] <jdenhaer> anyone can help me with a problem
[22:08] <Gin> Alan_M: I wnat the path in the title bar
[22:08] <iso> Gator: gladly
[22:08] <Gin> Alan_M: not as a menubar
[22:08] <jdenhaer> I think it is complex
[22:08] <neavbie> hardware drivers applet doesnt show my nvidia graphics card what do i do?
[22:09] <Alan_M> gin, oh, i was reading that line wrong, im sorry buddy! (I need glasses..stronger ones :P)
[22:09] <lap> i just installed emerald
[22:09] <lap> i choosed my theme
[22:09] <dave_X> erpo i have containirs that i cant open using truecrypt
[22:09] <dave_X> wich i prefer
[22:09] <gator> i just installed Ubuntu last night and its working great..but for some reason i have no sound
[22:09] <lap> but it don't replace the ubuntu default decorator
[22:09] <dave_X> thier my firends contaniers and he swiched to linux
[22:09] <iso> gator: what type of sound card do you have?
[22:09] <jdenhaer> I have a problem with the dazuko module
[22:10] <gator> C-media
[22:10] <aguitel> how i lock my desktop icons wallpaper to prevent change ?
[22:10] <Gin> Alan_M: can you move the location bar into the main menu bar?
[22:10] <gator> onboard
[22:10] <erpo> dave_X: I would move the data from a bestcrypt container to a truecrypt container using Windows, and then access them with truecrypt in Linux.
[22:10] <Alan_M> gin, im not sure you might have to try gconf-editor and look under nautilus and see what settings are there.
[22:10] <iso> gator: make sure gstream packages are installed
[22:11] <turbolover> hey guys, i enabled the proprietary nvidia driver and rebotoed, adn get a black screen
[22:11] <turbolover> after the splash
[22:11] <turbolover> and i cant even switch over to terminal
[22:11] <aguitel> Alan_M:  how i open gconf-editor?
[22:11] <gator> i'm lost with this Ubuntu lol
[22:11] <jdenhaer> anyone knows about dazuko module?
[22:11] <turbolover> alt f1 or ctrl alt f1 does nothing
[22:11] <turbolover> using xubuntu 8.04
[22:12] <gator> i was watching as it installed and it did say that gstreamer was installed
[22:12] <zvacet> aguitel : gconf-editor in terminal
[22:12] <Alan_M> aguitel, you may open it by going to terminal and typing gconf-editor (I do not suggest playing around in there unless you REALLY know what your doing.)
[22:12] <dave_X> cant you help me install bestcrpt
[22:13] <dave_X> not enough hard drive space
[22:13] <davidmo> Hi guys
[22:13] <Gaming4JC> :s
[22:13] <dave_X> and there on dvds
[22:13] <Gaming4JC> I can't even compile my modem driver
[22:13] <Gaming4JC> :(
[22:13] <Gaming4JC> lol
[22:13] <aguitel> Alan_M: i need to lock my desktop to prevent change
[22:13] <davidmo> I have a problem I sync /home with rsync to /home pc2
[22:13] <vic1ous> Hey, can some tell me what the difference in Ubuntu 32bit and 64bit is compatability wise. And also whats the difference in the DVD versions and CD versions.
[22:13] <Alan_M> aguitel, then you dont need gconf-editor for that :)
[22:13] <Gin> what will happen if you are copying a big file and accidently deleted the big file with alt+delete before it finish the copy job?
[22:13] <aguitel> Alan_M: how i lock ?
[22:13] <davidmo> but the termmianl and firefox try to popen but don't open
[22:14] <Alan_M> you can add a applet to your panels to do that aguitel
[22:14] <Slart> vic1ous: 64-bit version can handle more memory.. otherwise it's about the same
[22:14] <tony> hey i need help seeting up my wireless for my a205-s5814 toshiba satelite laptop.
[22:14] <davidmo> I restart pc2 and sometime work and others no
[22:14] <aguitel> Alan_M: what applet ?
[22:14] <davidmo> do you  know any solution?
[22:14] <tony> can someone help?
[22:14] <gator> you still there iso??
[22:14] <Slart> vic1ous: and the dvd version contains more packages than the cd-version.. good for those internt-less installs
[22:14] <neavbie> What is the command to Enable NV graphics?
[22:14] <perillux> ﻿I need to make a small modification to a python script...  so.. how can I run terminal commands from within the script?
[22:14] <Alan_M> aguitel, right click your menu, click "add to panel" and find "lock screen"
[22:15] <aguitel> Alan_M: ok
[22:15] <Alan_M> aguitel, then click add
[22:15] <tuxed> habe mir auf noch eine angemeldet :-)
[22:15] <vic1ous> Slart, what about program compatability like flash for the 64bit i heard that there is a lot of programs that don't work with 64.
[22:15] <Veliouras> hi
[22:16] <Veliouras> cab somebody tell me how to install hjsplit?
[22:16] <Slart> vic1ous: well.. there are some things that aren't available for 64-bit.. java, flash, wine are three examples.. they can all be installed by using some workarounds
[22:16] <gator> does any one know how to update sound drivers??
[22:16] <Slart> vic1ous: but it's getting better and better.. I don't feel limited by using 64-bit ubuntu
[22:16] <CaptainMorgan> what is going on with the "partial upgrades" ? this is the first I've ever seent them since 5.04
[22:16] <hrhodes3114> I am having a fun time trying to get wireless to work on my aspire 5315 -2326 plus the bios says the optical drive is a cdrw not a dvd
[22:16] <Starnestommy> Slart: the wine packages work fine for me on 64-bit
[22:16] <CaptainMorgan> partial updates
[22:17] <hrhodes3114> lol
[22:17] <RuyalarPrensi> http://imaj.at/44128 why?
[22:17] <Slart> Starnestommy: yes.. but they are still 32-bit =)
[22:17] <YZ666> Buenas
[22:17] <YZ666> hay alguien?
[22:17] <Odd-rationale_> !es | YZ666
[22:18] <YZ666> perdon
[22:18] <vic1ous> last question can you point me to a download of the 32bit cd. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download      doesnt seem to be working correctly.
[22:18] <|DuReX|> how do I get console instead of Gnome ?
[22:18] <Slart> vic1ous: try again later.. I don't have any other download sites..
[22:18] <rajalot> hello! this is most likely retarded question, but if I compile my own kernel, can I still use apt-get for normal repositories?
[22:18] <kindofabuzz> |DuReX|, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:18] <erpo> How trouble-free is the 64-bit edition of ubuntu compared to the 32-bit edition?
[22:19] <|DuReX|> kindofabuzz: it doesn't gimme console, get some 'locked' gnome screen then :x
[22:19] <kindofabuzz> |DuReX|, huh?  you gotta login
[22:19] <Slart> erpo: I don't any problems in my day to day use
[22:19] <hrhodes3114> If some one want to help a newbe com to ubantu
[22:19] <Slart> erpo: *I don't have..
[22:19] <erpo> Slart: Do you use binary-only software from other people? Like the nvidia driver or the flash plugin?
[22:20] <|DuReX|> when I stop gdm
[22:20] <neavbie> Can someone helpe me install these damn NVIDIA drivers
[22:20] <|DuReX|> I just get a 'locked' login screen lol :x
[22:20] <neavbie> its impossible i cant do it
[22:20] <WebGuest> would anyone be kind enough to try and help me setup wireless? It's nearly there I think!
[22:20] <kindofabuzz> |D will put you at command line
[22:20] <Slart> erpo: I use songbird and nvidias drivers.. no problem there
[22:20] <Slart> erpo: and I use adobe's flash
[22:20] <|DuReX|> kindofabuzz: doesn't :(
[22:20] <neavbie> Can someone help me install invidia drivers
[22:20] <erpo> Slart: Thanks for the info. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. :)
[22:21] <erUSUL> !nvidia | neavbie
[22:21] <kindofabuzz> I just found out emerald doesn't work with NVIDIA's binarys, you have to use the restricted install or Envy for emerald to work
[22:21] <Slart> erpo: you're welcome
[22:21] <zvacet>  vic1ous:  http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/
[22:21] <vic1ous> ty zvacet
[22:21] <neavbie> so basiclaly help myself which I have been doingj for the last 2 days ok
[22:21] <zvacet> zvacet : np
[22:21] <Slart> neavbie: restricted drivers
[22:22] <MrBashir> is there a channel for Folding@home?
[22:22] <Slart> neavbie: system, hardware drivers.. there should be an item there called nvidia
[22:22] <neavbie> i cant get restricted drivers
[22:22] <l815> im having trouble with motion eye webcam.. the light flashes but the video is black..
perhaps a specific question might help
[22:22] <neavbie> hardware drivers gives me a empty list
[22:22] <kindofabuzz> Mr_Sonoma, searchirc.com
[22:22] <aguitel> Alan_M: i cnnot access to panel
[22:22] <perillux> ﻿I need to make a small modification to a python script...  so.. how can I run terminal commands from within the script?
[22:22] <|DuReX|> kindofabuzz: rebooted and now it works :)
[22:22] <kindofabuzz> perillux, use IDLE
[22:22] <Luhta> neavbie, the easiest way is to go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers and check the box next to video then reboot
[22:22] <CaptainMorgan> perillux, off-topic
[22:22] <Slart> !nvidia | neavbie, try these urls
[22:22] <Starnestommy> perillux: make sure that os has been imported, then use os.system('command to run')
[22:23] <neavbie> Luhta: there is no check box there the list is empty
[22:23] <Alan_M> aguitel, are you the main user of your computer (adminstrator)?
[22:23] <aguitel> Alan_M: i am the only user
[22:23] <Luhta> neavbie then if you're certain you have an nvidia video card, install envyng via synaptic or apt and run that to install your drivers
[22:24] <WebGuest> can anyone help me with a wireless connection? it has detected the network but i'm struggling to connect to it!
[22:24] <Fogel1497> The flash plugin in firefox is skippy and sucks. Are there any alternatives?
[22:24] <Slart> ah.. envyng.. yes.. forgot about that option
[22:24] <Alan_M> aguitel, thats very strange, is the panel not visible or can you just not get to a menu because of restrictions?
[22:24] <Slart> Fogel1497: nothing that is better
[22:24] <Slart> Fogel1497: the alternatives are even worse
[22:24] <neavbie> Luhta: when I do that envy doesnt install correctly it errors, and when it does install i get low-graphics mode on boot
[22:24] <amrik> Fogel1497: well not really. that crappy plugin is as good as it gets, im afraid
[22:24] <aguitel> Alan_M: the panel is visible
[22:24] <CaptainMorgan> Fogel1497, firefox 2 or 3 ?
[22:24] <kindofabuzz> Fogel1497, try the Flash 10 beta, got rid of my skips
[22:24] <Luhta> envyng does not have 173.xx driver though so if you need that one you'll have to get it from the nvidia website
[22:24] <Fogel1497> firefox 3
[22:25] <Fogel1497> ok ill try it. im thinking about getting a plugin to download the embedded flash, and hopefully it would play better there
[22:25] <Luhta> neavbie, and you're 100% certain you have an nvidia card?
[22:25] <kindofabuzz> Fogel1497, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[22:25] <aguitel> Alan_M: right click ,no option to add panel
[22:25] <amrik> kindofabuzz: does flash 10 beta solve 64-bit issues?
[22:25] <CaptainMorgan> Fogel1497, you could try reverting back to 2, 3 has all kinds of problems which could include the flash player
[22:25] <jdenhaer> need help, if anyone has time
[22:25] <Alan_M> aguitel, im not sure of how to tackle this issue.....this is definately a new one on me.
[22:25] <kindofabuzz> amdunno, i don't have a 64
[22:26] <l815> how come my webcam works with xawtv but not cheese?
[22:26] <kindofabuzz> amrik, dunno
[22:26] <Alan_M> aguitel, can you get a run application dialog by pressing the alt key and f2 key together?
[22:26] <zvacet> jdenhaer : why don´t you ask
[22:26] <aguitel> Alan_M: i fix it
[22:27] <Gaming4JC> Anyone willing to compile something for me? (my main modem driver to connect to the internet on Ubuntu): http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-6_for_Ubuntu-2.6.15-23-386.tgz
[22:27] <Gaming4JC> please. :D
[22:27] <jdenhaer> ok
[22:27] <Luhta> neavbie, when you type lspci |grep -i nvidia do you get anything?
[22:27] <Alan_M> aguitel, you fixed it?
[22:27] <aguitel> Alan_M: yes
[22:27] <Alan_M> aguitel, thats good, can I ask how?
[22:27] <jdenhaer> i have a problem with the dazuko module
[22:28] <Slart> jdenhaer: what is the dazuko module.. where did you get it and what is the problem?
[22:28]  * Gaming4JC begins singing to himself and waits patiently, also asked nicely. :)
[22:28] <aguitel> i install pessulus and i lock my panel
[22:28] <jdenhaer> you know the module-assistant?
[22:28] <Alan_M> aguitel, ok if that fixed your issue thats good.
[22:29] <jdenhaer> I need the dazuko module for avg-free installation
[22:29] <kevev> anyone know how to view webcam images embedded into the wallpaper? Or a good small webcam viewing app?
[22:29] <Slart> Gaming4JC: you can't compile it yourself?
[22:29] <hrhodes3114> :-D
[22:29] <jdenhaer> with the module-assistant you can modprobe the dazuko module
[22:29] <zvacet> jdenhaer : no,never worked with it but somebody does and just waith and you will get your answer (I hope)
[22:29] <jdenhaer> k
[22:30] <Gaming4JC> Slart: No because I cannot get online to get the tools to compile it. It's impossible without a connection. (Using windows xp now)
[22:30] <Officium> hi
[22:30] <kevev> anyone know how to view webcam images embedded into the wallpaper? Or a good small webcam viewing app?
[22:30] <Pelo> kevev, camarama or something like that , check in add/remove  just search for cam
[22:30] <kevev> Pelo: thank you
[22:30] <Slart> Gaming4JC: ahh.. tricky.. if I were you I'd download.. oh.. wait.. modem driver.. dial up connection?
[22:31] <zvacet> Gaming4JC : http://nonetdebs.unixpod.com/
[22:31] <jdenhaer> do you know about a missing binary package for kernels?
[22:31] <jdenhaer> actually that is the error I'm getting
[22:31] <jdenhaer> 2.6.24-17-generic is not available
[22:31] <Pelo> jdenhaer, when are you getting this error msg ?
[22:31] <l815> how come my webcam works with xawtv but not cheese?
[22:32] <jdenhaer> when I trying to modprobe the dazuko module
[22:32] <jdenhaer> it says it can't continue
[22:32] <Pelo> l815, check the settings in cheese make sure you are using the correct /dev/video....
[22:32] <jdenhaer> because of the missing binary package
[22:32] <neavbie> my graphics card isnt support nvidia graphics chips list
[22:32] <jdenhaer> and then I'm stuck
[22:32] <Pelo> jdenhaer, ok  go in synaptic ,  look for the kernel number,  reinstall
[22:32] <zvacet> Gaming4JC : for geting tools for compile
[22:32] <Pelo> jdenhaer, then reboot
[22:33] <l815> Pelo, where do i change cheese's settings, there's no option for it
[22:33] <jdenhaer> ok I'll try
[22:33] <codecaine> what graphics card you have neavbie
[22:33] <neavbie> 8500 gt
[22:33] <codecaine> yea you have to install nvidia restricted drivers to get it to work
[22:33] <neavbie> can u walk me through that
[22:33] <neavbie> I cannot find that optino
[22:33] <Pelo> l815,  I wasn'T saying there was , I was just giving you the usual troubleshooting advice,   settings are usualy in  edit > preferences if there are any to use
[22:34] <rodrego_> hola alguien me puede ayudar
[22:34] <Gaming4JC> zvacet: Where can I get tools for HedgeHog? :P
[22:34] <l815> Pelo, thanks anyway, there's no option :P
[22:34] <Pelo> !es | rodrego_
[22:34] <codecaine> ill look up a link 4 u
[22:34] <rodrego_> es que no encuentro ese canal
[22:34] <hrhodes3114> does anyone know how to do a 802.11g
[22:34] <Pelo> l815, try starting  cheese from a terminal , see if you get any error msg
[22:34] <rodrego_> el de ubuntu en español
[22:34] <Pelo> rodrego_,   escrivar  /join #ubuntu-es
[22:35] <rodrego_> gracias
[22:35] <Pelo> hrhodes3114, what is that exactly ?
[22:35] <neavbie> Restircted rivers may not work properly on machines that have previousl used third party tools like envy to install previous drivesr oOH OHHH
[22:35] <codecaine> neavibe got here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html
[22:35] <l815> Pelo, no errors :/
[22:35] <codecaine> in install the latest drivers that way
[22:35] <codecaine> and restart x
[22:35] <AlexMorr1s> what does this error means? http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9707/screenshotlu7.png
[22:36] <Gaming4JC> la la la la... still no help... :(
[22:36] <boosey> flood bot lol
[22:36] <Pelo> l815,  there is a #cheese channel but I have no idea if they can help, seems pretty small
[22:36] <Gaming4JC> lol...
[22:36] <Pelo> Gaming4JC, waht' your issue ?
[22:36] <Gaming4JC> I can't get online, because I need this driver for my modem
[22:36] <Gaming4JC> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-6_for_Ubuntu-2.6.15-23-386.tgz
[22:36] <Gaming4JC> and I can't compile it
[22:36] <Pelo> Gaming4JC, wifi modem ?
[22:37] <codecaine> your using dial up?
[22:37] <neo_> codecaine: its newbie   Im getting an error: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:37] <Gaming4JC> yes
[22:37] <Gaming4JC> Dial-Up
[22:37] <AlexMorr1s> what does this error means? http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9707/screenshotlu7.png
[22:37] <neo_> sudo apt-get update
[22:37] <Childi> What is good dvb watching program (kaffeine keeps crashing, so not that)
[22:37] <neo_> gives me that error
[22:37] <codecaine> if its a internal modem more then likely its a win modem and most win modems are not supported in windows
[22:37] <Starnestommy> AlexMorr1s: you need termcap
[22:37] <codecaine> in linux I mean
[22:37] <boosey> yo
[22:37] <Gaming4JC> codecaine: It's supported in Ubuntu: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-6_for_Ubuntu-2.6.15-23-386.tgz
[22:37] <Starnestommy> AlexMorr1s: I think that may be in libncurses5-dev
[22:37] <modustollens> yea - forgot to hit 'select'
[22:37] <Gaming4JC> but I can't compile it
[22:37] <Sonja> !fonts
[22:37] <Sonja> where is the font folder?
[22:37] <neo_> codecaine: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:38] <neo_> how do i fix this
[22:38] <unr3a1> hey all
[22:38] <Gaming4JC> hi
[22:38] <kevev> ok camorama does not do what I need
[22:38] <unr3a1> what is the package name for Java?
[22:38] <codecaine> you probably have snynaptics open you have to close it neo
[22:38] <Alan_M> !repeat | AlexMorr1s
[22:38] <Starnestommy> neo_: close the other package managers
[22:38] <Pelo> unr3a1, sun-java6-jre
[22:38] <kevev> anyone know how to view webcam images embedded into the wallpaper? Or a good small webcam viewing app?
[22:38] <unr3a1> Pelo, thank you
[22:38] <Gaming4JC> Pelo: Could you compile the driver for me, it'd help so much. :')
[22:39] <Pelo> unr3a1, you can do a search in the terminal with  apt-cache search keyword or in gui using synaptic from the admin menu
[22:39] <newcomer008> hello
[22:39] <Pelo> Gaming4JC,  I can't compile a driver on my machine for use in yours,  I woudln'T know how anyway
[22:39] <Pelo> Gaming4JC, check your modem model here  see what it says   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[22:39] <Pelo> !hi newcomer008
[22:40]  * Pelo thinks ubottu sucks,   ubotu is much more freindly
[22:40] <newcomer008> im new to ubuntu and ive got a little prob with wlan and wpa. maybe someone can help me?
[22:40]  * Pelo got an advance replacement mobo from asus that was phisicaly damaged 
[22:41] <Gaming4JC> ok then... DOES Anyone, know how to compile ANYTHING. Just a quick question.
[22:41] <Gaming4JC> :)
[22:41] <Pelo> newcomer008, try asking specific questions on your issue and check in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org ,   I can't realy help on this but maybe others can
[22:41] <Alan_M> Gaming4JC, sure
[22:41] <daemon3> That's weird...Gnome is frozen when I log on...It's frozen every single time.
[22:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[22:41] <Starnestommy> Gaming4JC: usually a matter of installing build-essential, then reading the readme or install files
[22:41] <Gaming4JC> Yep.
[22:41] <Gaming4JC> Online.
[22:41]  * Pelo sees Jack_Sparrow swinging to the rescue in a nick of time , just like in the movies
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Starnestommy and kernel headers for his cup
[22:42] <Starnestommy> and that
[22:42] <modustollens> boosy?
[22:42] <Gaming4JC> The problem is I don't have an internet connection. Because I need a modem driver, which needs to be compiled.
[22:42] <newcomer008> Pelo, ive read already in nearly every forum for about weeks now, but nothing works.
[22:42] <newcomer008> im able to connect to non-secured wlan networks, but cant connect to my own wpa2 secured network at home :(
[22:42]  * Gaming4JC is repeating himself...
[22:42] <jokoon> Hello I'm looking for a terminal with outlined fonts, is there something existing in ubuntu ? some package ?
[22:42] <soundray> jokoon: what are outlined fonts?
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC YOu were linked to a free but slower driver that would give you internet access
[22:43] <Pelo> Gaming4JC, you got your install cd ? you can install build-essential from that , then you can use this connection to get the source file from where ever and transfer it to your other comp using a usb key or a flioppy or somesuch
[22:43] <jokoon> soundray : I mean outlined rendered text
[22:43] <Gaming4JC> Pelo: Yes, I have the CD
[22:43] <jokoon> Hello I'm looking for a terminal with outlined text rendering, is there something existing in ubuntu ? some package ?
[22:43] <Alan_M> Pelo, you got me backspacing now, heh i was about to suggest the same thing.
[22:43] <kevev> anyone know how to view webcam images embedded into the wallpaper? Or a good small webcam viewing app?
[22:44] <woddf2> Hello
[22:44] <Pelo> Gaming4JC,  put the cd in the comp ,  open a terminal , type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential   , that will get you the stuff you need to perfrom a compilation ,   then get the source code for your driver , I can'T help with that part
[22:44] <woddf2> My box refuses to wake after suspend.
[22:44] <Gaming4JC> ok thanks pelo
[22:44] <Pelo> Alan_M, type fast or die that ,s my moto for the day
[22:45] <francesco> Hello, could someone tell me what is the best language to make programs with graphical interfaces in Ubuntu environment?
[22:45] <newcomer008> francesco, java
[22:45] <soundray> woddf2: there are a few settings to play with in /etc/default/acpi-support -- especially the video-related ones
[22:45] <francesco> newcomer008: What about GTK+?
[22:45] <Starnestommy> francesco: c, c++, and python are good
[22:45] <Starnestommy> francesco: gtk+ is a library
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> francesco This is the wrong room for taking polls...  py or java are two common ones
[22:45] <Omar> hi
[22:46] <woddf2> My video card is a Intel 82815 Graphics Controller.
[22:46] <seanh> How do I change what application launches when I insert a DVD in Hardy? This used to be in Removable Drives and Media but it's not anymore
[22:46] <soundray> francesco: or stick with bash and use zenity dialogs
[22:46] <jokoon> soundray outlined text or font is for example, if the text is white, there will be some black border around the letters, so that for example I can clearly read text with a O% transparency wallpaper in the background
[22:46] <woddf2> soundray: What do I change in /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[22:46] <Omar> sorry. im totally new to ubuntu, and I¡m gettin a low ati performance, glxgears flick and so on. Anhbody with an Ati 1250.thanx
[22:47] <lphuberdeau> hello, I made an update yesterday and since, some things broke, like wireless card not being detected and no sound driver, was this reported already (can't find on forums)
[22:47]  * Pelo is scared ,  Alan_M  is making faces at him in pm 
[22:47] <francesco> So, could I just use C and GTK+ to make Ubuntu applications?
[22:47] <newcomer008> so, does anyone have an idea whats wrong with my wlan? i have tried a lot, but nothing works. still only can connect to non-secured networks, but wpa2 & wpa doesnt work. seems like i get no ip form secured wlan networks :(
[22:47] <Alan_M> pelo, you started it! :)
[22:47] <jdenhaer> still the same problem
[22:47] <Alan_M> oh wait, no you didnt, i did..anyways.
[22:47] <Starnestommy> francesco: yes.  You can use pretty much any language that has library bindings for GTK+
[22:47]  * boosey didn't think this was cyber chat
[22:47] <Pelo> !wifi | newcomer008 this is all I can do for you , aside from recommending you do a search in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[22:48] <soundray> jokoon: I see. Some kind of a drop shadow would do the trick, too, probably. I think you need a different terminal emulator for that -- I'm told that Eterm is very versatile in terms of appearance
[22:48] <Delts> Hey guys, got a quick question
[22:48] <Pelo> boosey, this is abit hectic,  it's a busy support channel,   general chat channels aren't this fast
[22:48] <boosey> i know
[22:48] <boosey> it's madness
[22:48] <boosey> i love it
[22:48] <Sonja> Whenever a page calls for Arial, instead of the proper Arial I installed, it displays an ugly font with letters inside scarab insect shapes. How do I figure out which font is doing that and delete it? It should pick up the normal Arial after that....
[22:48]  * Pelo reconsiders this is actualy a slow day 
[22:48] <newcomer008> well, ive read already about 100 articles in the forums. tried about 10 tutorials for reconfigurating wlan... nothing helps
[22:48] <Omar> does anybody have an ati and hardy? thanx
[22:48] <Delts> Just updated to 8.04 and after I start my laptop from hibernating the screen resolution is messed up and everything appears zoomed in
[22:48] <simply> Help, I downloaded ubuntu, burned the image, and booted to it, but hwen i choose to install the cd just spins for a minute and then stops, nothing happeneds
[22:49] <Jyri-C>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[22:49] <Pelo> !fonts | Sonja try this
[22:49] <erUSUL> !ati | Omar
[22:49] <Alan_M> simply, did you check the cd image md5sum for accuracy?
[22:49] <simply> i dont know how... i just followed instructions on ubuntu docs
[22:49] <Pelo> simply, do the cd check option from the boot menu
[22:49] <jdenhaer> still 2.6.24-17-generic prob
[22:49] <Gaming4JC> ok thanks all be back l8ter
[22:50] <Alan_M> !md5 | simply
[22:50] <simply> i tried that thing, cd just spun for a bit and then stopped
[22:50] <Gaming4JC> going to compile...
[22:50] <Alan_M> simply, try what ubottu is suggesting.
[22:50] <Jaffarkelshac> what is the command to beep in terminal
[22:50] <jayde_drag0n> how do i determin the partition number of my ipod?
[22:50] <soundray> woddf2: there are several video related toggles. You'll have to try them out -- activate the settings you've made with 'sudo /etc/init.d/acpi-support restart' each time, and reboot with Ctrl-Alt-PrintScreen R E I S U B each time you don't get X back.
[22:50] <ganjast> high
[22:50] <ganjast> i got a question, how does it run with 8gb on x64?
[22:50] <Pelo> simply, ok try the cd in another computer if you can boot it correctly from that , consider that you may have an issue with the cd-drive , if it doesn'T boot, try making another cd , preferealy from another comp
[22:51] <woddf2> soundray: Thanks
[22:51] <woddf2> Goodbye
[22:51] <stemount^> ganadist, how does what run with 8gig?
[22:51] <Pelo> ganjast, more detailed quesiton
[22:51] <ganjast> i think my bongoneck is the memory
[22:51] <ganjast> the whole OS
[22:51] <soundray> Jaffarkelshac: echo -e \\a
[22:51] <Sonja> thanks Pelo that page doesn't seem to answer my question
[22:51] <ganjast> in case of oliver bondizio
[22:51] <stemount^> ganjast, ubuntu?
[22:51] <ganjast> yeah jardy
[22:51] <Pelo> Sonja, I was more thnking about installing mscorefonts
[22:51] <Pelo> simply, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[22:51] <Jaffarkelshac> excellet soundray
[22:51] <AlexMorr1s> im getting this warning, what can i do ?   http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7960/screenshot1xl0.png
[22:52] <simply> i dont have another compuiter to try, should i try to burn it again?
[22:52] <soundray> Pelo: msttcorefonts
[22:52] <Alan_M> simply, yes
[22:52] <jdenhaer> the message I'm seeing in the log: is  error: capabilities are built-in to the kernel: You will need to recompile a kernel with capabilities as a kernel module
[22:52] <jayde_drag0n> hey there.. can anyone please tell me how i determine the partition number of my ipod?
[22:52] <Pelo> simply, I think that is yor best option at this point
[22:52] <Sonja> pelo yeah i do have those installed. another font is displaying instead of the proper arial one. i want to track down that other font and delete it or something
[22:52] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, open a terminal and type  blkid
[22:52] <ganjast> maybe your ipod is in /media
[22:52] <soundray> jayde_drag0n: try dmesg or 'sudo fdisk -l'
[22:52] <Pelo> Sonja, this is in firefox ?
[22:52] <Sonja> Pelo instead of the proper mscorefonts arial, i see some weird font that looks like insects with letters inside them
[22:52] <Alan_M> simply, try checking the md5 sum first though, see if the download was corrupted...that is my issue every time my cd's didnt work (not saying thats yours..but its possible.)
[22:52] <Sonja> Pelo firefox, openoffice.org, everything
[22:53] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo:  the reason is This installer assumes that your FAT32 partition is partition number
[22:53] <jayde_drag0n>          2. If this is not the case, press CTRL+C now and run the installer
[22:53] <jayde_drag0n>          again. Syntax:
[22:53] <jayde_drag0n>          ./installer.sh <partition number>
[22:53] <YZ666> #ubuntu-es
[22:53] <FloodBot3> jayde_drag0n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:53] <jayde_drag0n> oops
[22:53] <ganjast> yeah this is a cool font
[22:53] <ganjast> the fonts of the illuminati
[22:53] <jayde_drag0n> sorry for the flood
[22:53] <Pelo> Sonja, that might be the the code page thingy I don'T remember what it is called , set to latin or iso or utf and such
[22:53] <ganjast> set it to utf-8
[22:54] <Sonja> pelo it's not a font from another language
[22:54] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo: blkid did nothing
[22:54] <Sonja> pelo it seems to be a cheezy free font i downloaded at some point in my life, and it's overriding arial and thinks it's arial
[22:54] <soundray> jayde_drag0n: run it with sudo
[22:54] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, plug the ipod in,  goto menu > system> admin> system monitor ,  last tab ,
[22:54] <PetterS> what is the g++ update for ubuntu?
[22:55] <ganjast> a compiler update
[22:55] <PetterS> updater doesn't say what it is..
[22:55] <codecaine> g++ compile c++ or c sourcecodes
[22:55] <Pelo> Sonja, no clue sorry, you got my best shot, maybe doing a hdd search for   arial, deleting everything you see an then reinstlling  msttcorefont
[22:55] <Pelo> codecaine, source
[22:55] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo:  okay so with that in mind i then type ./installer.sh /dev/sdc1
[22:56] <Pelo> codecaine, ignore me I got you confused with someone else
[22:56] <codecaine> np
[22:56] <ringer> how can i reinstall Kiba-Dock to get all the default settings, i may have messed it up
[22:56] <daemon3> Something's wrong with the Gnome environment.  Whenever I log on, the desktop is frozen.  I'm able to move the mouse around, but that's about it.  I've deleted ~/.gnome2/session (or edited it) several times just in case I had a runaway app, but I still get a frozen system.  Please help.
[22:56] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, what are you doing ?
[22:56] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo:  trying to run an installer for ipodlinux
[22:56] <codecaine> daemon3 did you get the gnome update?
[22:57] <Pelo> daemon3, boot recovery   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[22:57] <jimmygoon> !ccsm
[22:57] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo: that room is bizarrely quiet.. so i'm figuring it out on my own
[22:57] <codecaine> I know some people where having problems with newly installed hardy but the update fixed it
[22:57] <manicnerd> When updating my system I was asked about menu.lst...i choose to keep it how it is/was......to be able to boot to the new kernel would i just copy the [title, root, kernel, initrd] lines and change 2.6.24-16-generic to ﻿2.6.24-17-generic?  I'm planning on leaving the ﻿2.6.24-16-generic in incase ﻿2.6.24-17-generic doesnt work for me
[22:57] <soundray> Sonja: one thing you might check is whether the problem is in your home directory: Create a new user, and see if it happens when you log in as that.
[22:57] <jimmygoon> No, simple-ccsm is garbage
[22:57] <daemon3> codecaine: Maybe.  When was it released?
[22:57] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, that command might work then try it I've never tried to isntall on another drive ,
[22:57] <codecaine> Not to long about maybe a month
[22:57] <codecaine> not exactly sure
[22:57] <Sonja> ple should the directory in .fonts.conf link to     <dir>/home/sonja/.fonts-managed</dir> as it currently does? or should it link to something like usr/share/fonts where all my fonts seem to be stored ?
[22:57] <Sonja> that's pelo and soundray
[22:58] <codecaine> my laptop had that problem but not my desktop
[22:58] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, that'S how linux works,   ask , get no answer , get frustrated,  figure it out for yourself,  when the next guy comes along , show off
[22:58] <Pelo> Sonja, try locate arial
[22:58] <jimmygoon> ubotu, ccsm is To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[22:58] <Sonja> ok
[22:58] <Sonja> do i type "locate arial" in terminal?
[22:58] <soundray> Sonja: can't comment -- I don't have a .fonts.conf
[22:58] <Pelo> Sonja, yes
[22:59] <harpreet> how do i install navigator i have extracted it to folder on Desktop?
[22:59] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo: lol it wasn't just no answwer in a room full of talking peopel.. its a room full of people not talking
[22:59] <codecaine> daemon3 run the update manager and see if it has updates for gdm
[22:59] <Sonja> i would have tried that but often font filenames are not named the same thing as the actual font name that programs call for
[22:59] <jdenhaer> I'm having trouble, trouble so much trouble... but I'm still happy
[22:59] <Sonja> soundray maybe i should delete that file
[22:59] <soundray> harpreet: what navigator?
[22:59] <Pelo> harpreet, what navigator ? avant windows navigator ?  check on google there is a how to for ubuntu
[22:59] <harpreet> soundary, netscape
[22:59] <soundray> Sonja: rename it, so you can revert
[22:59] <harpreet> pelo, netscape
[22:59] <Sonja> soundray ok
[23:00] <daemon3> codecaine: No, my system is up-to-date.
[23:00] <Sonja> soundray what is the terminal command for rename
[23:00] <Alan_M> jimmygoon, please dont try to change ubottu's "brain" in the main support room, you can try going to #ubuntu-ops and ask them to see if it can be changed to that. Thanks.
[23:00] <soundray> Sonja: mv
[23:00] <codecaine> im assuming you have the latest update you might have to reintall ubuntu-desktop like Pelo said
[23:00] <Pelo> harpreet, install build-essential,   then look in the netscape folder,  check for a INSTALL file, read and follow the instructions
[23:00] <jimmygoon> Alan_M, surely
[23:00] <soundray> Sonja: you'll have to log out and log back in to see if it made a difference
[23:00] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo:  http://pastebin.com/m5562511b
[23:00] <Sonja> ok
[23:00] <Sonja> brb
[23:00] <harpreet> Pelo, ty
[23:01] <soundray> harpreet: what's wrong with firefox, if you don't mind me asking?
[23:01] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, what am I looking at ?
[23:01] <harpreet> soundray, firefox is giving me problem in java
[23:01] <socr> what is the command for a terminal  launcher ?
[23:01] <dibz> hello
[23:01] <Starnestommy> socr: gnome-terminal
[23:01] <soundray> harpreet: what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[23:01] <codecaine> terminal launcher?
[23:02] <harpreet> soundray, i tried running yahoo games in firefox they dont open because java doesnt load
[23:02] <harpreet> soundray, Hardy
[23:02] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, run the command with sudo ,  sudo ./installer.sh /dev.....
[23:02] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo: the error output when i added /dev/sdc1 at the end of the installer.sh.. the error WAS using /dev/sdc1
[23:02] <dibz> i just installed ubuntu 9.04 and now dhclient will not get an address
[23:02] <harpreet> I have Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[23:02] <dibz> can anyone help?
[23:02] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, run the command with sudo ,  sudo ./installer.sh /dev.....
[23:02] <soundray> harpreet: i386 or x86_64?
[23:02] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo: i don't think thats what it wan'ted me to type
[23:02] <dibz> when i plug my dapper install back in dhcp works fine
[23:02] <harpreet> X86
[23:02] <soundray> harpreet: 64bit?
[23:02] <harpreet> Soundray X86
[23:02] <harpreet> Soundray, 64
[23:02] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, permission issues are usualy fixed by running the command as root , so try that first
[23:03] <soundray> harpreet: netscape won't fix your problem
[23:03] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo: http://pastebin.com/m785482f5
[23:03] <soundray> harpreet: you should install the 32bit version of firefox. There is a factoid...
[23:03] <soundray> !flash64 | harpreet
[23:03] <louis> hi
[23:03] <jdenhaer> I'm going to re-ask my question
[23:03] <dibz> anyone know why my 8.04 install refuses to aquire a dhcp address?
[23:03] <daemon4> This is daemon3.  When I try to run gnome-session-remove --list, I get this error: ** (gnome-session-remove:11480): CRITICAL **: gsm_protocol_new: assertion `GSM_IS_GNOME_CLIENT (gnome_client)' failed
[23:03] <daemon4> ** (gnome-session-remove:11480): CRITICAL **: gsm_protocol_get_current_session: assertion `protocol != NULL' failed
[23:03] <jdenhaer> I'm having a problem after installing avg-free
[23:03] <daemon4> ** (gnome-session-remove:11480): CRITICAL **: gsm_session_live: assertion `the_protocol != NULL' failed
[23:04] <louis> germany
[23:04] <daemon4> (gnome-session-remove:11480): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
[23:04] <daemon4> (gnome-session-remove:11480): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
[23:04] <FloodBot3> daemon4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:04] <soundray> harpreet: the problem is that Sun  doesn't make a mozilla plugin for 64bit firefox
[23:04] <daemon4> Currently registered clients:
[23:04] <afabian> harpreet: in my experience, all of that stuff is a pain.  I just downgrade to 32 bit hardy.  It's a little slower on my machine, but various things work better and easier.
[23:04] <jdenhaer> during starup it says I need to modprobe dazuko
[23:04] <soundray> !de | louis
[23:04] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, try sudo ./installer.sh 2
[23:04] <Pelo> or jayde_drag0n, try sudo ./installer.sh 1
[23:04] <dibz> anyone? :(
[23:04] <sgmadison> i have downloaded ubuntu-desktop it installs fine but after the loading screen goes to a black screen, same from livecd - this is an optiplex 745 that has installed debian and linuxmint just fine - any ideas?
[23:04] <erUSUL> harpreet: soundray you can try icedtea-gcjwebplugin using icedtea as java RE
[23:04] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n,  I'm just guessing at this point,  see if they have a forum
[23:05] <Pelo> dibz, anyone what ?
[23:05] <louis> scream 3
[23:05] <harpreet> erUSUL, i have tried that too
[23:05] <jdenhaer> so I try to do that
[23:05] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo:  is there a way to determin the correct number? cuz 2 and 1.. just give the same error
[23:05] <dibz> pelo my new ubuntu install will not aquire a dhcp address
[23:05] <neo_> How do I check the nvidia version I have installed in ubuntu
[23:05] <daemon4> Sorry about flooding.  Here's the URL: http://pastebin.com/m55c7e909
[23:05] <jdenhaer> but during the process
[23:06] <jdenhaer> I'm getting an error
[23:06] <soundray> harpreet: did you make icedtea the default java interpreter when you tried erUSUL's approach?
[23:06] <jdenhaer> he can't finish what he doing
[23:06] <Pelo> jayde_drag0n, try this,  install gparted,  run it from the admin menu ,   locate your ipod in it , see what partitions are available and what their numbers are
[23:06] <soundray> dibz: wireless?
[23:06] <jdenhaer> because of a missing
[23:06] <jdenhaer> binary package for kernels
[23:06] <jdenhaer> 2.6.24-17-generic
[23:06] <Pelo> dibz, check in menu > sysetm > admin > network, make sure it is set to dhcp and not to statiic
[23:06] <dibz> soudray no , wired network
[23:07] <jdenhaer> in synaptic
[23:07] <daemon4> codecaine: Did you see the error messgae above?
[23:07] <jdenhaer> I reinstalled everything related to this
[23:07] <Pelo> !enter | jdenhaer
[23:07] <jdenhaer> doesn't help
[23:07] <jayde_drag0n> Pelo:  okay hang on
[23:07] <dibz> Pelo: i set it my self in /etc/network/interfaces , then ran dhclient eth0
[23:07] <harpreet> soundray how do i do that
[23:07] <jdenhaer> k
[23:07] <Pelo> dibz, try asking in #networking , they migth know ,this stuff is a bit over my head
[23:07] <Delts> ﻿Hey guys, got a slight problem.  I just upgraded to 8.04 and every time I put my laptop into hibernate the screen resolution switches away from 1280x800 to 1024x768.  Anyone know what's up and a solution?
[23:07] <louis> halloooo ? jemand deutschsprachig ?
[23:08] <Delts> ﻿I'm using an acer Aspire 5633WLMi laptop for reference
[23:08] <soundray> harpreet: 'sudo update-alternatives --config java', then make icedtea the default instead of Sun Java
[23:08] <Pelo> Delts, check in xorg.conf,  remove all other resolutions listed,  see what that does
[23:08] <soundray> !de | louis
[23:08] <codecaine> daemon4 I never seen that error message before
[23:08] <Pelo> Delts, I don'T mean remove , I mean comment them out
[23:08] <soundray> louis: wie schon zuvor gesagt ^^
[23:08] <louis> jaja hab kapiert
[23:09] <harpreet> soundray ty
[23:09] <moDumass> hey all ktorrent fails to load
[23:09] <soundray> louis: wo liegt also das Problem? /join #ubuntu-de
[23:09] <moDumass> for no apparent reason
[23:09] <moDumass> just wont start
[23:09] <neo_> how do i check what version of nvidia i have installed
[23:09] <louis> ok thx
[23:09] <neo_> how do i check what version of nvidia drivers i have installed right now
[23:09] <daemon4> codecaine: Okay. Sorry.
[23:09] <Pelo> neo_ try nvidia-settings or nvidia-config
[23:09] <codecaine> neo_ dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[23:10] <louis> ok bin jetz in #ubuntu-de
[23:11] <neo_> codecaine: http://pastebin.com/m6b93ba26   tell me what u see
[23:11] <neo_> how can i fix my situation
[23:11] <codecaine> 169.12+2.6.24.12-17.36
[23:12] <codecaine> looks like you have two different nvidia drivers installed though
[23:12]  * RuyalarPrensi iyi geceler
[23:12] <codecaine> you have glx and envy and the new glx
[23:13] <neo_> when i run Nvidia  X settings it say says..... "You do not appear to be using Nvidia X driver"
[23:13] <neo_> how do i fix this crap lol
[23:13] <netron1234> still trying to sort out the crappy fonts in Hardy. has anyone noticed that fonts on google and youtube look really bad...  ?
[23:13] <kevev> what is the proper wget string for grab a file and place it in a specific directory???
[23:13] <soundray> !language | neo_
[23:13] <netron1234> kevev - use the -O option... output file...
[23:14] <kevev> netron1234: ok. I try that but I am also using -i
[23:14] <codecaine> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf make your driver says nvidia
[23:14] <kevev> I want to do it in one line
[23:14] <Pelo> kevev,   wget sources  destination , I beleive
[23:14] <afabian> netron1234: try installing the msttcorefonts package and changing your font rendering from "best shapes" to "subpixel hinting" and choose full hinting from detailed options.
[23:14] <netron1234> kevev -> something like wget http://www.blah.com/index.html -O /home/kevev/grabbed.html
[23:14] <codecaine> under device section
[23:14] <kevev> Pelo: tried that. no go
[23:14] <codecaine> save and restart x
[23:14] <Pelo> kevev, read  man wget
[23:14] <afabian> netron1234: gmail looks really crappy without msttcorefonts
[23:14] <arthur> is it better to upgrade to 8.04 or do a clean install? or it dont matterr..
[23:14] <Pelo> ok later folks
[23:14] <kevev> Palo: I have
[23:15] <netron1234> afabian -> thats the annoying thing .  i hae msttcore installed!
[23:15] <SnakeArt> Hi,everyone!
[23:15] <neo_> codecaine: here is my file http://pastebin.com/m4a2d4610
[23:15] <afabian> arthur: upgrade processes are less reliable than clean installs, no matter what distribution or operating system you're running, as a rule of thumb.
[23:15] <neo_> where do i put it
[23:15] <kevev> netron1234: yes that works, but I am also using -i . I have a file with urls in it I want to parse.
[23:16] <arthur> thats what i thought... when dose the lts end fr gusty
[23:16] <kevev> netron1234: I can parse file, but I cant tell wget where to put files.
[23:16] <neo_> codecaine: my config file looks off doesnt it http://pastebin.com/m4a2d4610
[23:16] <afabian> arthur: If you place a premium on convenience, try an upgrade.  If you place a premium on a clean system with no gotchas, clean install.
[23:16] <Onyx> does anyone here use gyachi?  i'd like to install it :\
[23:16] <netron1234> kevev -> google for the Snoopy class.  its a php class that can parse html files for you.
[23:16] <codecaine> wow you have nothing configured
[23:16] <kevev> netron1234: ok
[23:16] <arthur> when is ubuntu going to stop updating gusty?
[23:16] <arthur> i use gyachi... it rocks
[23:16] <netron1234> kevev -> pretty sure it can extract , with a parameter , JUST the hyperlinks...
[23:16] <codecaine> u need nvidia to reconfigure you fiel for you
[23:17] <codecaine> maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:17] <codecaine> will let you set it to nvidia
[23:17] <arthur> get the voice codecs its a sepret pakage to get voice working
[23:17] <afabian> arthur: for a desktop system, a standard release is supported for 18 months.  Gusty is 7.10, which is 10/2007.  So for 18 months after that.
[23:17] <SnakeArt> Today I've bought a Canon PIXMA MP210 multifunctional device (printer,scanner...). I'm using 64  bit gutsy gibbon and I've found on Canon website drivers for i386 linux only. Is there a 64 bit version of these drivers?
[23:17] <kevev> netron1234: I already have hyperlinks in a file. I want wget to grab images from each link and place them in a directory I choose.
[23:17] <neo_> codecaine: Same config file... didnt do anything
[23:18] <Starnestommy> arthur: I think April 17, 2009
[23:18] <codecaine> reinstall
[23:18] <codecaine> your nvidia driver
[23:18] <codecaine> and it will auto config it for you
[23:18] <neo_> how do i do that
[23:18] <soundray> arthur: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146 -- scroll down to the diagram
[23:18] <neo_> and how can i remove the other drivers so theres no conflicts
[23:18] <ray_> how i turn on in ubuntu 8 for intel 945g 3d graphic for all of the system?
[23:18] <ray_> or at least get new driver for it
[23:18] <ray_> installed
[23:18] <ray_> :(
[23:19] <codecaine> open synaptics and type in nvidia
[23:19] <netron1234> kevev ->  snoopy will stick the hyperlinks into an array.  just use the "foreach" command to iterate over it (in php_)...  in the middle of the foreach , do an exec("wget....) to grab each image.
[23:19] <codecaine> and check them for unistall
[23:19] <ray_> any one see my q
[23:19] <erUSUL> ray_: yes
[23:19] <harpreet> soundray, it still does not work, i enabled default java to be under gjc
[23:19] <ray_> erusul did you see it can you help
[23:19] <kevev> netron1234. blah, Im not good with php. sorry
[23:19] <netron1234> kevev -> by the way .  use php-cli .. command line php. this sort of stuff is easier with it.
[23:19] <neo_> codecaine all the packages?
[23:20] <netron1234> kevev ->its a 5 liner. piece of piss...
[23:20] <erUSUL> ray_: no i can no help
[23:20] <codecaine> yep
[23:20] <ray_> any one
[23:20] <codecaine> what type of nvidia card you have?
[23:20] <harpreet> gcj*
[23:20] <soundray> harpreet: you need to make sure that the plugin you've configured in firefox agrees with the jre you've set in update-alternatives
[23:20] <ray_> see no help :( for me
[23:21] <SnakeArt> How to make a Canon pixma mp210 working on ubuntu gutsy-gibbon 64bit?
[23:21] <neo_> I have x server nv  video... common files.. nvidia settings.. nvidia kernel common.......nvidia glx new...linux restricted modules........jocky gtk...... jocky common.....envyngcore.......envynggtk
[23:21] <neo_> So after I uninstall them what do u want me to do?
[23:22] <codecaine> sometimes the nvidia-glx-new is buggy I have to use to older driver nvidia-glx
[23:22] <soundray> harpreet: so make sure you've got icedtea-java7-jre and icedtea-java7-plugin installed, and no other plugin is competing for java applets in firefox
[23:22] <codecaine> in syanptics choose nvidia-glx
[23:22] <ray_> can ant one tell me how to install or turn on for whole system in ubuntu 8 for intel 945g
[23:22] <ray_> ?
[23:22] <codecaine> and nvidia-setting and install them
[23:23] <codecaine> after that you going to have to restart you x server for them to take effect
[23:23] <harpreet> soundray where do i get those from
[23:23] <neo_> ok then what
[23:23] <ray_> harp me?
[23:23] <neo_> what happens if i boot into low-graphics mode which usually happens
[23:24] <soundray> !info icedtea-java7-plugin | harpreet
[23:24] <soundray> harpreet: from the universe repository ^^
[23:25] <ray_> soundray how i get the new intle or turn on in ubuntu 8 the 4d or new driver for intel 945g
[23:25] <Mad10000> hello everyone - Ubuntu newbie here and need help
[23:26] <ray_> 4d=3d
[23:26] <soundray> ray_: I don't know. Perhaps 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg' and select the intel driver
[23:26] <ray_> sounb ray o ok
[23:26] <codecaine> neo_ just try it and will take it from there
[23:27] <codecaine> how it go neo_?
[23:27] <neo_> codecaine: Ok umm
[23:27] <neo_> the nvidia ddriver still doesnt work
[23:27] <codecaine> and nvidia is the driver in xorg.conf right now right?
[23:27] <neo_> X Server SEttings ... You do not appear to be using Nvidia X driver
[23:27] <erUSUL> !ask | Mad10000
[23:27] <codecaine> check your xorg.conf
[23:27] <neo_> codecaine: whats the command again
[23:28] <codecaine> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:28] <Mad10000> can anyone help - my update manager as well as Synaptic Package Manager keep hanging up and I can't do anything with them until I reboot  -  is there any known fix for this?
[23:28] <AlexMorr1s> im getting this warning, what can i do ?   http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7960/screenshot1xl0.png
[23:28] <neo_> codecaine: no its not listed there
[23:28] <neo_> its the same as before
[23:28] <SnakeArt> Is there a version of scangear software for ubuntu 64bit?
[23:28] <deadsouls> how can i force adept not to upgrade a certain package?
[23:28] <codecaine> pastebin it
[23:28] <erUSUL> Mad10000: hanging up ?
[23:28] <Starnestommy> AlexMorr1s: the one about po/Makefile.in.in can probably be ignored
[23:29] <Mad10000> just keeps getting stuck erUSUL - I can't close it or anything
[23:29] <codecaine> no cofigurations at all?
[23:29] <neo_> http://pastebin.com/d6311b1d7
[23:29] <Mad10000> I cannot install updates or any other software
[23:29] <deadsouls> how can i force adept not to upgrade wine?
[23:29] <erUSUL> AlexMorr1s: seems harmless to me
[23:29] <daemon3> Is there a way to erase all my gnome settings?  I'
[23:30] <neo_> I think my computer doesnt like nvidia
[23:30] <daemon3> I've tried to delete every gnome, gconf, nautilus, or metacity file/folder, but nothings working.
[23:30] <erUSUL> Mad10000: try this on a terminal and se if it reports errors or something "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[23:30] <SnakeArt> Is there a version of scangear software for ubuntu 64bit?
[23:30] <AlexMorr1s> Starnestommy: erUSUL  i have ignored it, and did a "make"   ---- look what i got http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4074/screenshot2ck2.png
[23:31] <neo_> codecaine,: did u see it
[23:31] <erUSUL> AlexMorr1s: pleae use pastebin far easier and loads faster
[23:31] <Gaming4JC> Hello Again. It idn't work
[23:31] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[23:31] <Gaming4JC> *did not
[23:31] <soundray> daemon3: you should log into failsafe mode and 'mkdir gnome-backup ; mv .gnome .gnome2 .gconf gnome-backup'. When you next log in normally, a default config will be recreated.
[23:31] <Mad10000> erUSUL that worked fine and the upgrade is running
[23:31] <daemon3> soundray:
[23:31] <daemon3> Thanks.  I also think the problems is with Nautilus.
[23:32] <codecaine> I have a question when you reconfigre the xserver
[23:32] <AlexMorr1s> erUSUL: i can pastebin np -- but what about the error
[23:32] <daemon3> The desktop keeps freezing.
[23:32] <codecaine> did you choose nvidia to be your driver?
[23:32] <soundray> daemon3: move .nautilus as well, then
[23:32] <neo_> reconfigure xserver?
[23:32] <neo_> i didnt do that
[23:32] <codecaine> try this real quick
[23:32] <codecaine> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:32] <ixxxs> hey guys, anyone know where the linuxtag ubuntu crew went for the karaoke bar in berlin?
[23:32] <codecaine> that probably do it for you
[23:33] <neo_> not found
[23:33] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: That site you sent for my modem "Linuxant" or whatver. It said it didn't support HSP modems... :(
[23:33] <Gaming4JC> Also, Palo, I couldn't get the compile tools from the disk. It simply said "Error" cannot connect to "ubuntu/blah/blah/bin.
[23:33] <codecaine> it will mod your xorg.conf
[23:33] <neo_> its not found
[23:33] <turbulentfluid> HEllo all... I need help with virtualbox...
[23:33] <codecaine> you don't have nvidia-xconfig?
[23:33] <Starnestommy> turbulentfluid: what kind of help do you need with it?
[23:33] <turbulentfluid> When I create a machine, I try and run it,
[23:33] <codecaine> you should if you installed nvidia driver
[23:33] <soundray> !enter | turbulentfluid
[23:34] <turbulentfluid> Whoops... I was just to paste in the message I got.
[23:34] <turbulentfluid> am I allowed to do that?
[23:34] <neo_> codecaine: its in synaptic u want me to install it
[23:34] <soundray> !paste | turbulentfluid
[23:34] <turbulentfluid> ouch...
[23:34] <erUSUL> AlexMorr1s: dunno the configure went well maybe incompatibility with openssl-dev libs on hardy?
[23:35] <Gaming4JC> Starnestommy: It's extremely easy to compile "if" you have an internet connection. Could some one do it for me who has internet connection. :)
[23:35] <codecaine> yea you need it install nvidia-glx and install nvidia-settings
[23:35] <codecaine> then run sudo nvidia-config
[23:35] <SnakeArt> I need some help with Scangear software on 64bit gutsy
[23:35] <achandrashekar> kickstart question for you all...after an install the client default to "kickseed" how do keep multiple clients from having the same hostname??
[23:35] <codecaine> then restart xserver
[23:35] <turbulentfluid> OK, anyway, I get a message that kernel isn't acessible to current user.
[23:35] <soundray> turbulentfluid: we need to have strict rules -- otherwise it'll get completely out of hand ;)
[23:35] <neo_> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[23:35] <neo_>                   Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver
[23:35] <neo_>                   line.
[23:35] <soundray> !paste | neo_
[23:35] <Gaming4JC> -_-
[23:35] <Taza> M2N4 + AMD 5000+ power saving + Ubuntu LiveCD == KERNEL PANIC (acpi). Noacpi means X doesn't start. Help?
[23:36] <Taza> NOT A PEBKAC
[23:36] <Taza> NOT AN USER ERROR
[23:36] <soundray> turbulentfluid: have you added yourself to the vboxusers group?
[23:36] <FloodBot3> Taza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:36] <Starnestommy> Gaming4JC: just use another computer to put the .deb packages for build-essential and its dependencies on a disc to transfer the packages to the one without the internet connection.  YOu can get the packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[23:36] <neo_> codecaine: u see that validation error
[23:36] <turbulentfluid> soundray: uhm, no, what's that? Sorry, I'm new to ubuntu and VB...
[23:36] <codecaine> yea normal
[23:36] <wile_e_coyote> can anyone help
[23:36] <soundray> Taza: http://www.break.com/pictures/caps-lock509309.html
[23:36] <codecaine> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:36] <codecaine> make sure the driver says nvidia now
[23:36] <Taza> soundray: Plz.
[23:37] <Gaming4JC> Starnestommy: Where can I get the packages for "hedgehog"?
[23:37] <wile_e_coyote> ive installed envy for my radeon hd2400 pro
[23:37] <Mad10000> I used to have a dual boot option to WinXP before but after re-installing Ubuntu it disappeared. Can this be restored somehow thru GRUB?
[23:37] <codecaine> pastebin  the xorg.conf
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> codecaine gksudo gedit ... please
[23:37] <Taza> soundray: I'm just trying to get that noticed before someone goes "check CD"
[23:37] <wile_e_coyote> and fglrxinfo gives good info back
[23:37] <wile_e_coyote> but the resolution is low
[23:37] <Starnestommy> Gaming4JC: hedgehog?
[23:37] <DarKKer666> hi, i install it the new ubuntu 8.04, and when i install the private drivers and restart, my lcd 17" widescreen, goes black because dont admit more than 1280x720, and in the xorg.conf its not the same i cant change it
[23:37] <wile_e_coyote> and i dont think the 3d support actually works
[23:37] <Flare183> What is the default font for kubuntu?
[23:37] <DarKKer666> but its running ok
[23:37] <JamesGanz> I'm getting "debootstrap error: failed to determine the codename for the release" while trying to install Hardy on a Dell Optiplex 755.  Any ideas?
[23:38] <Taza> HARDWARE IS OKAY, CD IS OKAY, USER IS EXPERIENCED: M2N4 + AMD 64 x2 + Ubuntu LiveCD == KERNEL PANIC. Suggests disabling acpi. I do that and X fails to start.
[23:38] <Gaming4JC> Starnestommy: The original ubuntu. O_o
[23:38] <Gaming4JC> version 1
[23:38] <Gaming4JC> I have the OpenCD version
[23:38] <Gaming4JC> :)
[23:38] <gwern> I am kind of curous, why is /tmp by default on the hard drive?
[23:38] <soundray> Taza: stop spamming us with caps
[23:38] <Taza> soundray: Quit complaining about that.
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza Stop it.
[23:38] <Taza> soundray: That's required to make clear that those are not the problem.
[23:38] <m1dn1ght> Well there's a good way to get help - act like an ass
[23:39] <Starnestommy> Taza: you can make that clear without caps
[23:39] <soundray> Taza: we have rules here, and you should adhere to them, or look for help elsewhere
[23:39] <idefix_> what can you do with a BIN file in ubuntu?
[23:39] <Taza> soundray: Is there a rule against making clear what has been tried?
[23:39] <stemount^> idefix_, bin it? ;)
[23:39] <Starnestommy> idefix_: it depends on what the bin file is for
[23:39] <stemount^> joking
[23:39] <Mad10000> !ask ﻿I used to have a dual boot option to WinXP before but after re-installing Ubuntu it disappeared. Can this be restored somehow thru GRUB?
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza there is a coc .. maybe you should read it
[23:39] <codecaine> neo I have to go soon you there?
[23:39] <Beryllium> M2N4? Who makes that?
[23:39] <neo_> codecaine: yea
[23:39] <soundray> Taza: there is a rule against yelling = spamming with caps
[23:39] <Flare183> ???
[23:39] <Taza> soundray: Because if it wasn't in caps SOMEONE would miss it. I use caps for emphasis. I bet someone misses it now too.
[23:39] <Taza> soundray: and I'm not violating that rule
[23:39] <codecaine> what you saw in your xorg.conf?
[23:39] <Flare183> anyone going to answer?
[23:40] <Taza> Beryllium: Asus M2N4-SLI AM2 motherboard.
[23:40] <neo_> how do i check again
[23:40] <Beryllium> ah. Hrm. Normally Asus behaves nicely.
[23:40] <codecaine> gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:40] <idefix_> wat is BIN? what does it stand for?
[23:40] <Beryllium> I was hoping you would say it was MSI, so I could dismiss it out of hand as "msi is crap" ;-)
[23:40] <Starnestommy> idefix_: binary
[23:40] <Taza> Beryllium: I have the same experience, it appears to be just this mobo according to the forum.
[23:40] <erUSUL> Taza: you are being rude to anyone and enfasis can be obtained *some* _other_ way
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> codecaine closer..
[23:40] <Taza> Beryllium: And the MSI board I have works fine. ;_;
[23:40] <mneptok> Taza: do not use all-caps for emphasis. full stop.
[23:40] <codecaine> gksudo gedit /etc/X11 xorg.conf
[23:41] <Flare183>  anyone???
[23:41] <Taza> erUSUL: What's wrong for caps for emphasis?
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[23:41] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: Do you know where I can get build-essential for HedgeHog offline?
[23:41] <codecaine> :)
[23:41] <Taza> mneptok: Says who?
[23:41] <loquitus_of_borg> I keep getting this error where my /dev/dsp device is busy... it happens quite a bit after I play a particular game, quit the game, and then try again, where the second time the game displays: open /dev/[sound/]dsp: Device or resource busy
[23:41] <neo_> codecaine: when I ran that command I restarted X server and my monitor didnt support it so I couldnt see the screen. I rebooted in recover mode and said fix X server and I got back here
[23:41] <mneptok> Taza: your frustration should not translate into our eyestrain.
[23:41] <idefix_> so you can run them like exe's in DOS?
[23:41] <neo_> So It has the same thing as before
[23:41] <magnetron> Taza: please don't make an argument out of this
[23:41] <Beryllium> Taza: Netiquette has firmly established, over the past 20 years, that all-caps is synonymous with YELLING.
[23:41] <loquitus_of_borg> any ideas to fix this? I'd love to kill the damn thing that is hogging it
[23:41] <Taza> Beryllium: It was SUPPOSED to be.
[23:41] <erUSUL> AlexMorr1s: i have tried to compile alpine here and was succesfull (i got the same warning)
[23:41] <loquitus_of_borg> it drives me crazy I have to restart the damn system to fix this.
[23:41] <Starnestommy> idefix_: mostly, but it depends on what the bin file is for
[23:41] <Taza> Beryllium: Therefore emphasis.
[23:41] <soundray> Taza: there is a rule about this. What part of do you have difficulties grasping?
[23:41] <Beryllium> And yelling is against the rules in here. Sheesh.
[23:41] <codecaine> neo_ you use gaim?
[23:41] <solid_liq> loquitus_of_borg: try  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[23:41] <Daisuke_Ido> not to mention that it read like an annoying geek personals ad
[23:41] <Taza> soundray: No there isn't. *sigh*
[23:41] <neo_> codecaine: no
[23:41] <Taza> soundray: Allcaps maybe.
[23:41] <Taza> Partcaps no.
[23:42] <Beryllium> Dice-K: Good point :)
[23:42] <neo_> codecaine: i can install it
[23:42] <yaris12346789> hi, i have a direcotry full of files within many subfolders....i would like to join those separate files within those subfolders, using the subfolder`s names as the output file name
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza Read the rules of the channel and stop arguing
[23:42] <Starnestommy> Taza: do you get any errors with the kernel panic?
[23:42] <codecaine> I meant pidgin
[23:42] <Taza> Unless they've changed the rules in like the last 3 months.
[23:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !caps | taza - it most certainly is
[23:42] <erUSUL> AlexMorr1s: hardy 64 bits after "sudo apt-get build-dep alpine" "./configure" "make -j3"
[23:42] <Taza> Starnestommy: Complains about acpi timer.
[23:42] <neo_> codecaine,: im new to ubuntu i dont use it
[23:42] <mneptok> Taza: i just asked you to stop. there is a rule about following and respecting the wishes of the ops. please follow that rule and stop using caps for emphasis.
[23:42] <loquitus_of_borg> solid_liq: you mean alsoa-utils? I don't have alsa in that folder
[23:42] <Gaming4JC> codecaine: Pidgin is awesome! ;) ehmm back on topic...
[23:42] <Taza> Starnestommy: And something about the 8254 timer.
[23:42] <Beryllium> hey mneptok! How's life treating you?
[23:42] <solid_liq> loquitus_of_borg: yeah, that.  That does the trick for me
[23:42] <eth01> !topic | *everybody* in #ubuntu
[23:43] <m1dn1ght> I'm running Disk Usage analyser to find out where all my HDD space has gone.  I've got Ubuntu on a 90 gig partition and disk usage analyser is showing 75 gig used and 15 gig free, however after running the analysis, it is only showing my file system (/) as containing 37.9 gig.  Where can that other 38 gig be hiding???
[23:43] <mneptok> Beryllium: not so bad, as it's Friday :)
[23:43] <Starnestommy> Taza: is this in the livecd?
[23:43] <Taza> Starnestommy: Yes.
[23:43] <neo_> codecaine: send again i didnt know u sent me soemthing
[23:43] <Beryllium> lol :) We met a deadline at work today, and we're going to a pub in a bit to celebrate :)
[23:43] <Starnestommy> Taza: try using the alternate cd instead
[23:43] <Taza> Starnestommy: But I'm not willing to try alternate with a kernel panic
[23:43] <eth01> Beryllium: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:43] <solid_liq> m1dn1ght: try just using du for th, like:  du -hs /   and go from there
[23:43] <Taza> Starnestommy: Normally if it's an X problem, yeah, but not with a kernel panic over my head.
[23:43] <Beryllium> eth01: Fair point. Sorry.
[23:44] <codecaine> trying to
[23:44] <ledmushroom> '
[23:44] <ledmushroom> .
[23:44] <Starnestommy> Taza: there might be a setting in your BIOS that is causing that
[23:44] <neo_> codecaine: send me in pastebin
[23:44] <Taza> Starnestommy: Nope
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ledmushroom Please dont
[23:44] <neo_> u want emt o copy it?
[23:44] <eth01> ledmushroom: please don't do that.
[23:44] <JamesGanz> i'm trying to Hardy installed and it's failing on the "base system" install step.  The error is:  "debootstrap error: failed to determine the codename for the release".  does anyone know what this is??
[23:44] <codecaine> k
[23:45] <deadsouls> how can i specify which version of wine for apt-get to install?
[23:45] <ledmushroom> k
[23:45] <Starnestommy> Taza: have you tried with the alternate?
[23:45] <mneptok> Taza: what module is causing the panic?
[23:45] <Taza> deadsouls: "apt pinning"
[23:45] <eth01> !u > neo_
[23:45] <Taza> mneptok: Apic something
[23:45] <soundray> !pinning | deadsouls
[23:45] <mneptok> Taza: so how do you know that's not in the BIOS?
[23:45] <Daisuke_Ido> deadguyss: not a fan of the 1.0 line?
[23:45] <loquitus_of_borg> solid_liq: nope, did not work. can't I find who the bastard is and kill him?
[23:45] <Daisuke_Ido> err...
[23:45] <Starnestommy> Taza: try with the noapic boot option
[23:45] <m1dn1ght> hmmm - I think I may have broken my system.  I tried that command and got lots of "permission denied".   Tried running as sudo and it didn't even ask for a password, just gave du: cannot access `/home/m1dn1ght/.gvfs': Permission denied.  I haven't used sudo this boot, so it's not like it hasn't timed out yet.
[23:45] <Daisuke_Ido> deadsouls: not a fan of the wine 1.0 line?
[23:45] <Taza> mneptok: Because I checked. And updated the bios.
[23:45] <mneptok> Taza: did you disable anything relating to APM or ACPI in the BIOS?
[23:45] <Taza> Starnestommy: It was in the caps, tried that.
[23:46] <m_newton> Does amyone know how to wotk tracerout??????
[23:46] <codecaine> neo_ http://pastebin.com/m1dcd0a49
[23:46] <Taza> mneptok: Tried with every setting, returned to defaults after.
[23:46] <codecaine> copy paste that over your xorg and see if that helps you
[23:46] <Starnestommy> Taza: are you sure it was noapic and not noacpi?
[23:46] <codecaine> the bottom section that doesn't have line numbers
[23:46] <Taza> Starnestommy: It boots with noapic or quiet removed but hangs before X
[23:46] <deadsouls> Daisuke_Ido, no, i have an application that only works with 0.9.15
[23:46] <Gaming4JC> All who don't know the hedgehog: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[23:46] <Gaming4JC> Now where can I get build-essential packages for it? hmm... :)
[23:46] <Taza> Starnestommy: Also in the caps, yes I'm sure.
[23:46] <node357> m_newton, traceroute <ip address>
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[23:46] <Taza> Starnestommy: This is why I put it in caps. :P
[23:46] <Gizmo_The_Great> In Windows theres a tool called 'FileMon' that shows you the files being created or edited when you run an application. Is there such a tool for Ubuntu?
[23:46] <Taza> Starnestommy: Don't ask if the CD is valid, it is.
[23:46] <Daisuke_Ido> wow, that's going back a ways, but the wine repo doesn't have releases going back that far
[23:47] <ledmushroom> is clamav more or less a antivirus for mail?
[23:47] <codecaine> and restart x tell me how it goes
[23:47] <Taza> deadsouls: What app?
[23:47] <node357> ledmushroom, it's an antivirus for systems. it scans filesystems for viruses
[23:47] <eth01> ledmushroom: it's crap.
[23:47] <deadsouls> Taza, wine. the problem is that wine 0.9.15 deb file installed, but it's marked as broken (even though it is working)
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ledmushroom yes, but not to protect you. to protect windows users
[23:47] <Taza> deadsouls: What *windows* app?
[23:47] <deadsouls> Taza, Dragon Naturally Speaking
[23:47] <eth01> (don't bother installing it)
traceroute: icmp socket: Operation not permitted
[23:48] <deadsouls> Taza, the problem is that even though it is locked, apt still wants to fix the broken package
[23:48] <Taza> deadsouls: Eh, compile from source and install to your home directory?
[23:48] <node357> m_newton, you may need to use sudo traceroute <ip address>
[23:48] <ledmushroom> given up on just about all windows apps so should i keep it or scrap it
[23:49] <Taza> deadsouls: Also, is VMware an option? :P
[23:49] <neo_> codecaine, : still says you do not seem to be using nvidia x driver
[23:49] <Taza> deadsouls: Sometimes that's easier than fiddling around with wine
[23:49] <codecaine> do you have a old nvidia card?
 Thanks i forgot about sudo! my bad
[23:49] <neo_> 8500 gt
[23:49] <codecaine> hmmm
[23:49]  * Gaming4JC thinks it is imposssible to get build-essential packages for HedgeHog, am I mistaken?...
[23:49] <neo_> The restricted drivers worked
[23:49] <node357> I actually got to help someone :D
[23:49] <m1dn1ght> The other day I changed root password (stupid I know) as I was fiddling about.  Following instructions from ubuntu site I used sudo passwd root -l afterwards which I thought would revert me back to the old ways but... - I think I may have broken my system.  Now sudo won't work properly (not asking for a password).  Just tried the commands solid_liq suggested and getting permission denied.
[23:49] <Taza> What does the "nolapic" boot option do?
[23:50] <codecaine> probably need the nvidia-glx-new driver then
[23:50] <codecaine> for that card
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol | Gaming4JC
[23:50] <codecaine> uninstall the nvidia-glx and install the nvidia-glx-new
[23:50] <codecaine> restart x the xorg config should be the same
[23:50] <neo_> codecaine,: How do I get the restricted drivers option in system administration
[23:51] <codecaine> don't think there is one in hardy I know it was in feisty
[23:51] <Taza> Does anyone know what nolapic boot option does?
[23:51] <Starnestommy> Taza: I think it disables lapic
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[23:51] <Taza> Starnestommy: Well thanks, Capn' Obvious. Any idea what that is?
[23:51] <erUSUL> Taza: disables lapic ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAPIC
[23:51] <codecaine> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795952
[23:51] <soundray> neo_: sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk
[23:51] <m1dn1ght> Jesus Christ - I've seen Prima Donnas with smaller attitudes than this guy.
[23:52] <codecaine> neo they got it running
[23:52] <[KS]> Hello everyone
[23:52] <PorkSoda> Any one have any proven lit on converting avi to 3gp or pocketpc/win mobiles format on linux?
[23:52] <Taza> m1dn1ght: Well I've been fighting with a broken install for the last two hours after a stressful school week. You'd get an attitude with that time.
[23:52] <Taza> m1dn1ght: Then again my school week was stressful because I was fighting with every student, so meh.
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza no reason to bring it into here with you
[23:52] <DarKKer666> hi, i install it the new ubuntu 8.04, and when i install the private drivers and restart, my lcd 17" widescreen, goes black because dont admit more than 1280x720, and in the xorg.conf its not the same i cant change it
[23:52] <m1dn1ght> We all get stressed.  Who the hell is going to dedicate their time for free to help someone who keeps insulting them?
[23:52] <codecaine> I have to run sorry neo_
[23:53] <Taza> Jack_Sparrow: My frustration with ubuntu failing to work with the mobo?
[23:53] <codecaine> jocky_gtk should let you enable it like soundray said
[23:53] <[KS]> Ubuntu on Pavillion HDX9000, anyone?
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza your entire attitude
[23:53] <Taza> m1dn1ght: Note how I don't actually insult anyone who is actually approaching the problem?
[23:53] <PorkSoda>  /join #ffmpeg
[23:53] <Catslacks> Hey, I have an ATI x1650 and I'm just wondering if I need to download/install any drivers to use it or if it is fine with stock ubuntu stuff
[23:53] <PorkSoda> blah
[23:53] <Taza> m1dn1ght: Instead of just complaining about my attitude? :p
[23:54] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: Would Hardy plugins work for Ubuntu Studio?
[23:54] <m1dn1ght> Taza:  So you're nice to people who can help you and an arse to people who can't?  I wish you were my teacher when I was in school.
[23:54] <loquitus_of_borg> Anybody know why my freaking joystick does not work 50% of the time when I start X-Plane? Sometimes it is there and behaving. Other times it is just not reacting in the game.
[23:54] <Taza> m1dn1ght: I'm nice to people who can help you, I'm an arse to people who start writing a medieval epic about my attitude.
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC they should but are you running hardy or hoary
[23:54] <Beryllium> loquitus_of_borg: The times where it doesn't work are the times when you start the game with your pants off. Be careful which stick you grab.
[23:54] <Taza> m1dn1ght: There used to be a forum dedicated to hating me but they all migrated to OpenBSD
[23:55] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: Ubuntu Studio (Hardy) is in the mail. Hoary I've had on the OpenCD for like ever.
[23:55] <[KS]> nobody installed ubuntu on hdx9000 yet?
[23:55] <[KS]> nice :)
[23:55] <tharvey> trying to run gkismet - getting 'Can't locate Gnome.pm' - can't figure out what package to install for this?  libgnome-perl is installed
[23:55] <m1dn1ght> Taza: Well if a single person decides to help you now I will be very surprised.  Good luck with your problem but I'm through with this conversation
[23:55] <Taza> Beryllium: Tsk. :p
[23:55] <smmagic> hi guys, is there anyway to view my ubuntu ext3 drive under viista?
[23:56] <Taza> m1dn1ght: Does that mean I don't get highlighted by someone who doesn't help me but keeps complaining about the way I act? Well, I'm crushed, how can I survive now?
[23:56] <harpreet> smmagic, i dont think so
[23:56] <legend2440> Catslacks: in terminal           glxinfo | grep direct   direct rendering say yes?
[23:56]  * erUSUL raises a banner "do not feed the troll"
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | taza
[23:56] <Taza> Point.
[23:56] <soundray> smmagic: there are filesystem drivers for Windows, e.g. ext2fsd
[23:56] <harpreet> smmagic why do you need microshit?
[23:56] <smmagic> grr, thanks harpreet
[23:56] <soundray> harpreet: don't, please
[23:56] <smmagic> wow uh
[23:56] <harpreet> sorry soundray
[23:56] <Taza> Now, does anyone have any idea how to get Ubuntu to work on a Asus M2N4-SLI motherboard with a dualcore AMD processor?
[23:56] <codecaine> smmagic http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm#Download
[23:56] <smmagic> People have their own opinions
[23:57] <codecaine> will allow you to mount it
[23:57] <smmagic> Oh thankyou codecaine
[23:57] <[KS]> Intel 4965 Wireless not working on 8.04
[23:57] <Taza> smmagic: It's about the swearing.
[23:57] <[KS]> My bad or a glitch? :))
[23:57] <codecaine> np
[23:57] <Catslacks> legend2440: Yes it does
[23:57] <PriceChild> harpreet: lets watch the language. Clever spellings like that only lower others opinions of what you sau.
[23:57] <loquitus_of_borg> beryl: dude. that's somewhat funny
[23:58] <[KS]> is this channel going to be all about attitudes now?
[23:58] <Beryllium> Taza: I would imagine there's some sort of bootup parameter you can provide that would get it to cooperate. Tried google yet?
[23:58] <harpreet> sure PriceChild
[23:58] <MTecknology> I created a LVM partition... I wasn't smart enough to do it on top of RAID.... is there any way to add a disk to the volume at a later date?
[23:58] <smmagic> I know Taza, but people have opinions
[23:58] <Taza> Beryllium: I've been reading that for two hours.
[23:58] <Taza> smmagic: "Who needs microsoft" does well, even though that's ot too.
[23:58] <legend2440> Catslacks: should be fine then. i have radeon 9600 using stock ubuntu open source drivers and everything is fine
[23:58] <loquitus_of_borg> Beryllium: serioously... any idea how to fix this? I hate having to restart the bloody machine just for this
[23:58] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Taza
[23:58] <soundray> [KS]: it will be, as long as there is a threat of helpful people being turned away by bad attitudes
[23:58] <Beryllium> k. I've also found the ubuntu forum to be helpful. It's especially useful for getting drive-by help, rather than realtime help.
[23:58] <Taza> !nothelpful | PriceChild
[23:58] <Taza> Shame.
[23:58] <JamesGanz> i'm trying to Hardy installed and it's failing on the "base system" install step.  The error is:  "debootstrap error: failed to determine the codename for the release".  does anyone know what this is??
[23:59] <[KS]> bah
[23:59] <[KS]> anyone can help me?
[23:59] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to make a backup list of all the packages i have installed?
[23:59] <Taza> Beryllium: Yeah I'd love to get it to work today.
[23:59] <[KS]> I am not gonna have an attitude, I promise :)
[23:59] <Beryllium> loquitus_of_borg: Sorry :( Is it a usb joystick? if so, maybe a different port would work.
[23:59] <smmagic> okay, codecaine
[23:59] <sharms> Taza-  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4965956&postcount=9
[23:59] <harpreet> is it possible to buy ubuntu loaded laptop from stores?
[23:59] <Taza> Beryllium: I'm honestly just thinking a windows install, dd under Debian Stable and backup/drive images that way
[23:59] <smmagic> When I come to step 2 there are no EXT volumes found. I launch disk manager and I'm not sure how to select it. What do I do?
[23:59] <Beryllium> Taza: Believe me, I know the feeling. I wrestled with Linux issues for three years. :(
[23:59] <loquitus_of_borg> Beryllium: it is USB... tried different port