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Odd-rationaleCITguy08: ouch, that doesn't sound good... xfce doesn't start even after a hard reboot00:00
Odd-rationale?00:00
suRsThese settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)00:00
CITguy08I know it has something to do with the desktop manager. That's all I know.00:00
suRsi found it00:00
suRsthe theme is changed00:00
suRsomg it looks awsome O_o00:01
Odd-rationalesuRs: wasnt that hard, was it00:01
suRsno really easy00:01
suRsnow i know how its done!00:01
Odd-rationaleCITguy08: any error messages?00:02
CITguy08It gets to the point where it says it's Loading the Desktop Manager, then segfaults and dumps me back at the login.00:02
CITguy08there seems to be an error with "restricted-manager" not being able to load as well00:03
Odd-rationaleCITguy08: hmm. idk, but i i were you, i would go to ctrl+alt+f2, login there, and delete any session looking file in ~/.config...00:03
suRshow do i fix my text so its a bit bigger?00:05
suRson the xchatt00:05
Odd-rationalesuRs: never used xchat... so dunno...00:06
CITguy08I've also noticed that in ~/.config/autostart/  there is a file named Restricted Drivers Manager that doesn't seem to work. I moved that file to ~/ and tried again, but now there's a bunch of "No Name" files in the ~/.config/autostart00:07
Odd-rationaleCITguy08: try moving the whole .config directory...00:08
CITguy08ok, I'll be back.00:08
duncawchello all00:13
CITguy08success!! So something in the ~/.config was messing it up00:15
CITguy08thank you for your help00:19
cody-somerville:)00:19
suRswell00:20
suRsi have to sleep now so00:20
suRsi see you tomorrow odd00:20
suRsthanks for all help i got today :D00:20
Odd-rationalesuRs: bye!00:21
stequbuHi guys. I want to keep some of my data (music) somewhere else than my home directory. Where would you put it? And I mean keeping it on the system partition not on some other.00:36
Odd-rationalestequbu: any specific reasons to do so00:37
Odd-rationaleshare files?00:37
stequbuyup00:37
stequbushare00:37
Odd-rationaleI would create a new folder caller /home/share00:37
Odd-rationaleor maybe /home/Share00:37
stequburight but this would mean creating a new user00:37
stequbu?00:37
Odd-rationalethen put the music in /home/Share/Music00:37
Odd-rationaleno, you don't need a new user00:38
Odd-rationalebut you do need to be root (sudo) to create the /home/Share/ directory00:38
stequbuwhen I operate in nautilus I dont have the ability to create in home folder00:38
Odd-rationaleso something like "sudo mkdir /home/Share"00:39
stequbuthis means id have to do it via command line, ok00:39
cody-somervillestequbu, you will need to create a new group (if you want to restrict it to certain users) and/or set the permissions.00:39
Odd-rationalethen i would "sudo chmod -R 777 /home/Share" so all could read and write to it...00:39
Odd-rationaleactually, to be honest, i really would create a new "share" group"...00:40
Odd-rationalebut 777 is the easiest way...00:40
stequbuthx odd-r. just one more thing. you propose creating the share group...00:41
stequbui presume it would involve all users having access to it?00:41
Odd-rationalestequbu: it is more difficult that way. do you want to limit who can have access to the /home/Share folder?00:41
stequbuyes but only by means of Samba00:41
Odd-rationaleso would 777 permission do for you?00:42
stequbuAt first it sounded great though my knowledge is too poor to make good assesments :)00:42
Odd-rationalestequbu: well it is really up to you...00:45
stequbuOdd-r, does it make sense to you such a plan: 1) Keeping some data/ folders in /home/share and the managing the access to files by means of /etc/samba/smb.conf00:45
Odd-rationalestequbu: so you only need to limit remote access to these files?00:46
Odd-rationalestequbu: btw, if you do odd-r<tab> it will auto-comlete my nick fo you...00:47
stequbuyes remotely. though locally would be also important just for security00:48
Odd-rationaleok. well we can add a new group called "share" like this: sudo groupadd share00:49
Odd-rationalethen you can add yourself to that group: sudo gpasswd -a <yourusername> share00:49
Odd-rationalethen we will have to give /home/share to the group share: sudo chown -R <yourusername>:share /home/share00:50
Odd-rationalethen set the permissions: sudo chmod -R 775 /home/share00:51
Odd-rationaleyou can change 775 to fit your need.00:51
Odd-rationaleyou might want 770 or something else...00:52
Odd-rationaleyou can then add other users to the group share...00:52
Odd-rationaleetc...00:52
stequbuthis is perfect. thx so much00:52
stequbuone question though as to this line:  "sudo chown -R <yourusername>:share /home/share"00:53
Odd-rationaleyes?00:54
stequbuwhy do we need  <yourusername>? wouldn't it be sufficient to assign the share folder just to group name?00:54
stequbuof which we are members?00:55
Odd-rationalestequbu: i think everything needs a member and a group...00:55
Odd-rationaleyou could have it owned my root:share00:55
Odd-rationaleif you have root in the share group as well...00:55
stequbui see, thank you00:56
stequbuOdd-rationale : what is your favourite way of managing the smb.conf file00:57
stequbuI was maybe thinking of some GUI but I didn't find anything like this.00:58
Odd-rationalestequbu: samba isn't exactly my territory...00:58
stequbuI see.00:59
Odd-rationalealthough, i would probably just edit the text file...00:59
Odd-rationalei'm not a fan of too much gui...00:59
Odd-rationale(which is why i use arch)01:00
stequbuyeah me too but I wanted to set it up for someone else01:00
stequbuthough a conf fileeven in gedit will do.01:00
stequbuThe last thing I was thinking about was setting up VNC so that it would be accessible also on login screen. Do you have any experiences with that?01:00
Odd-rationaleno, sorry...01:00
stequbuOk, thx. Just to make sure -  I presume our configuration will not conflict with any shares/permissions I might do in Samba ?01:03
Odd-rationalestequbu: i presume not. if smabe is running as root, you might want to be sure that root has access to the share folder as well.01:04
stequbuI thought root has access to all folders by default?01:04
Odd-rationaleyes it does...01:05
cody-somervilleso much to do, so little time :)01:06
stequbuOdd-rationale : does 770 mean that only people with an account on the local machine will be able to Read the folder?01:10
stequbuor that only the owner, root and group Share would be able to rwx and the rest nothing01:11
Odd-rationalethe first 7 is for the user, the second 7 is for the group (share) and the third digit 0 is for others.01:11
Odd-rationaleso if someone else in in the share group, s/he will have rwx permissions01:12
Odd-rationalebut if s/he is not, then 001:12
Odd-rationaleor you can make it 5 for others if you want to  be able to readl01:13
stequbuThx I'm ready to go :) I'm setting up my first server and some people should be able to use it after your help :)01:14
Odd-rationalestequbu: doing sysadmin stuff? fun!01:14
stequbuyeah but I had some weird stuff occuring - the windows disk would screw with the booting sequence01:16
Odd-rationalestequbu: my motto as a Linux system admin is: "Never use your freedom to suppress the freedom of others."01:16
stequbusure that's my motto in life :)01:17
Odd-rationaleit is easy, once you have the knowledge and power, to try to hide the that knowledge from others, so that they are in a way handicapped becuase they don't know certain things...01:17
Odd-rationalesome sysadmin are afraid of letting people know "how things works"01:17
Odd-rationale"just use it a be happy..."01:17
stequbuOT: have you ever had weird stuff happening with  Routine check of drives at startup?01:18
Odd-rationalenope... like what?01:18
stequbumy updated fresh install of Hardy Heron started screwing with me01:18
stequbuAt boot it fails to do the Routine drive check at 4%01:19
stequbuand unless i hit ESC before it gets there it halts and then it needs a reboot01:19
stequbuIf I hit ESC the system boots noramlly01:20
Odd-rationalestequbu: maybe something wrong with your /etc/fstab ?01:20
Odd-rationaleidk01:20
stequbumaybe I should run a chckdsk or sth?01:20
Odd-rationaleyou could try...01:20
stequbuwhat is /etc/fstab01:20
Odd-rationaleman fstab01:21
steqububut chckdsk wont work with Ext2 wil it?01:21
steqububut how come can sth be wrong with fstab if the system launches normally afterwards?01:22
Odd-rationalewell, i got to go eat dinner...01:23
Odd-rationalettyl!01:23
stequbuttyl :)01:24
stequbuI was thinking about was setting up VNC so that it would be accessible also on login screen. Do you have any experiences with that?02:14
mrwizardhow do i dualboot with xubuntu for a mac with a powerpc?02:29
mrwizardit doesn't fit in any of the distros under get xubuntu02:29
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ron_ohow can I find why my computer is shutting down all the time?04:05
ron_odmesg?04:05
zoredachemaybe04:14
zoredacheit kinda depends on why it is shutting down... if your hardware is failing then there isn't going to be anything in your logs04:15
ron_omaybe it04:17
ron_oit's gnome power manager.. I don't know. I'll see.04:17
Myrttimoin07:09
suRsmorning07:38
suRsanyone know if there is any torrent download for ubuntu?07:39
Myrttisure there are07:48
zoredache!torrent08:01
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P08:01
zoredachehrm...  when is ubottu's search gonna be fixed08:01
suRsi have rtorrent and it sucks08:03
Myrttizoredache: which search?08:07
zoredacheI am almost certain that when ubottu was ubotu you could do !search keyword and he would tell you all the topics08:07
Myrtti!search torrent08:08
ubottuFound: bittorent, dvd-torrent-#kubuntu, apt-torrent, alternate-#kubuntu, deluge, hardy, alternate, dvd-torrent, bittorrent, slow08:08
Myrttihmm?08:08
zoredachehrm...08:08
zoredachewhen I do it in a PM to ubottu I get -- <ubottu> There were no matching configuration variables.08:09
suRshow do i change the time on my klock is 1 hr ahead08:11
Myrttizoredache: a request straight from the owner of ubottu, file a bug at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots08:16
suRshadyaw08:39
suRsanyone here?08:39
Ben_Cshello10:13
Ben_Csanyone can help me setting up the usb sound?10:13
Ben_Csok i figured out the device is /dev/dsp1. now how do i make xfce-alsa-controll work with it?10:29
Ben_Cs?10:29
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cody-somervilleGood Morning Xubuntu!! :)12:06
PriceChildcody-somerville: got a moment or two?12:08
cody-somervillePriceChild, certainly. Private query?12:08
lhgergohi12:17
lhgergoi have a question: how can i run boinc on xubuntu 8.04?12:18
s_artsping12:51
cody-somervilles_arts, pong12:56
s_artshi cody :)_12:56
cody-somervilleHiya Stephen :)12:56
s_artshow is 8.10 doing? :_12:59
aandersehey cody-somerville, saw your blog12:59
s_arts:)12:59
aandersegood stuff12:59
s_artsblog?12:59
* s_arts wants to read :)12:59
aandersethat will probably make it easier for me to find something to do (when intrepid goals are set)12:59
aanderseso really looking forward to it :)12:59
s_artsaanderse: which blog13:01
aandersehttp://cody.zapto.org/?p=2813:01
s_artsthanks :)13:02
aandersenp13:03
aandersegotta get ready for work13:03
aandersebbl13:03
s_artshmm, NY ?13:03
aanderseNY?13:15
ablomendoes anybody here know if theres an easy (as in not having to add the menu items myself) way to get all the seperate configuration utils to the applications/rightclick menu like it was in gutsy?13:20
ablomen(so in the settings submenu)13:20
* ablomen doesnt like to open the settings manager to edit stuff13:21
cody-somervilleablomen, you would have to edit the desktop files13:24
ablomencody-somerville, they are already made? just have to enable them?13:25
cody-somervilleablomen, I believe so13:25
ablomenthanks ill go look in to that13:25
cody-somervilleActually, I know they were deleted at one point but readded but just disabled13:25
cody-somervilleSo you might be unlucky :P13:26
ablomenlol ah well i can always see if they are in there somewhere *crosses fingers* ;)13:26
cody-somerville/usr/share/applications/13:26
ablomenyeah already there, thanks though :)13:27
cody-somervillenp13:27
cody-somerville:)13:27
ablomenmeh cant seem to find them13:29
ablomenah well i can learn to live with the settings manager i guess13:29
cody-somervillesorry :(13:30
ablomenheh well user friendlieness > some things only a group of people want, can always add them myself :)13:31
ablomenoh your the project lead cody-somerville ?13:32
cody-somervilleablomen, guilty :]13:32
ablomenoh nice that your actually on the irc channel :)13:32
ablomendont see that often13:32
* ablomen knows who to spam for new features now :P13:34
cody-somerville:D13:34
cody-somervilleablomen, Have you considered getting involved? :)13:34
ablomenwell yeah id love to help with the programming, but the problem mainly for me is that i only really use php/javascript/perl etc13:35
ablomenplay with other stuff from time to time but python seems to hate me (im not even kidding) and c* is a bit over my head atm13:36
cody-somervilleNo need to know how to program13:36
cody-somervilleMost of the work is packaging, bug triage, and other fun junk :)13:36
ablomenhaha13:36
ablomendo you guys have like a wiki page with "job openings"? or looking for someone to do something in particular?13:37
cody-somervilleablomen, http://xubuntu.org/devel13:38
ablomenhmm im gonna look at the packaging deal this weekend, always wanted to learn how to do that :)13:40
cody-somervilleablomen, feel free to hang out with us in #xubuntu-devel too13:43
cody-somervilleYou can also read my blog at http://cody.zapto.org13:43
ablomen:) ill do that13:44
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black_opshi14:00
cody-somervilleHi14:01
black_opsdoes anyone know how to remove the boot image . i got a xandros machine with the xandros init14:01
black_opsimage14:01
black_opsi think it is messing up my installs14:01
black_opsit came with xandros14:02
black_opson it14:02
black_opsi want to put xubuntu or ubuntu on it14:02
cody-somervilleJust install Xubuntu :)14:03
black_opsi have burned 3 cds all fail14:03
black_opsxubuntu is the only 1 that did work14:03
black_opsbut i tried to reinstall it14:03
black_opsand im getting bootstrap errors14:04
cody-somervilleWeird :I/14:06
nd___Anyone has a clue where to find a fairly complete set of mime-type icons?14:19
ablomennd___, as in extra icon themes?14:19
nd___Actually I don't want to use it in any wm but in the web... so it has to be under an open license.14:20
nd___Therefor it doesn't really matter how it's packaged...14:21
ablomen/usr/share/icons14:21
ablomenthere are all the default icon themes installed14:21
nd___ablomen: As I don't have a xubuntu running atm, is there a possibility I can get the mime-type icons from you?14:21
ablomenlol im not going to upload all of them14:21
nd___ok14:21
ablomenjust use the ubuntu package search14:22
ablomeni think you can donwload the deb's from there14:22
ablomenhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=tango&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all << for example here14:23
nd___Thanks I will try that14:23
ablomennp, good luck14:24
ablomenoh and put the creator of the icons in the credits of your site ;)14:24
nd___I will14:24
nd___Well, e.g. with the tango-icon-theme there are only like 30 mimetypes...14:25
ablomenwell there is more then one package, look in the other ones :)14:26
ablomenshould be 144 of them, though most are symlinks14:27
nd___ablomen: Tried all links on the site above I only found these 30 types.14:28
nd___144 sounds more like it14:28
nd___I might get and run the xbuntu live-cd and get them from there...14:28
ablomenhttp://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library << you can look here too14:29
nd___Did. Doesn't contain good mime-types14:30
black_opsdebootstrab warning15:18
black_opsany you guys ever see that?15:19
black_opsshould i continue?15:19
black_opsor is it screwed?15:19
black_opsduring install?15:19
black_opsman this is frusterating15:20
black_opsmy hardware don't like xubuntu15:21
black_opsubuntu15:21
black_opsim getting all kinds of errors15:21
nd___ablomen: How are the mimetype-icons sorted in /usr/local/icons? like application-x-dvi.png?15:21
black_opsit does this with fedora 215:21
black_opsinstall base system failed15:22
black_opsim trying to install it over xandros15:23
black_opsit came native on the box15:23
nd___ablomen: Otherwise I wonder how they map it to actual types... weird non-scheme naming it seems to me15:24
black_opscould it be mbr?15:29
thinkmassiveblack_ops: did you specify to erase and use the entire disk?15:34
black_opsill try that now15:35
black_opsagain15:35
black_opsi haven't today but have in the past15:36
black_opsi got a floppy in it15:36
black_opsi installed it twice15:38
black_opsit worked as a command line system install15:39
black_opsbut when i tried it again15:39
black_opsno cigar15:39
black_opsand hasn't worked again15:40
black_opsi haved tried going on 10 times id say15:40
black_opshave*15:40
black_opsi have burned ubuntu and alternative iso15:41
black_opsneither work15:42
black_opsx is the only thing i have got working15:42
black_opslol15:43
black_opsnow its hung won't even try to install15:43
black_opsi like x15:44
black_opsmaybe my disk is bunk15:44
black_opsbut i have already wasted 315:44
black_opshrrrm15:45
black_opssomething interesting15:45
TheSheep!md515:46
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:46
xya^Heya! Could someone maybe tell me, in which config-file xubuntu/xfce stores the configuration-variables for the mouse settings?15:50
xya^Although acceleration-bar is set to the minimum, the mouse is still way tooo fast. :(15:51
n3urogodgday all17:27
thinkmassivegreetings n3urogod17:28
thinkmassivehow goes it?17:29
n3urogodmeh17:30
n3urogod:P17:30
n3urogodIm really tired and having issues with getting the nvidia driver to work17:30
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n3urogodand you?17:31
thinkmassivefinally getting around to load testing my webservers17:55
thinkmassiveit's reminiscent of sim city 2000... I'd type in the code for infinite $$, build a huge city, then unleash the monster on it17:55
thinkmassivetime for our free friday lunch, bbl :)17:56
tinglehello, i just tried to install xubuntu for the first time the iso loads but once the ubuntu background is loaded i get this HUGE screen whit HUGE fonts telling me i can start the install or something like that17:59
tinglebut its to big to really install the os.. i cant download a alternate cd because im out of cd's :( is there a way to bypass this?18:00
tingleperhaps i can fix a xorg driver or something like that when the os is installed18:00
tinglein debian i normally use i810 as driver im telling this so perhaps anyone here knows its a issue or something like  that18:01
Stroganoff!alternate | tingle18:01
ubottutingle: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent18:01
Stroganoffoops sorry18:02
Stroganoffur out of cd mmkay18:02
Stroganoffpress ctrl+alt+f6 or something18:02
tingleStroganoff: np, that will make it switch to tty correct?18:03
Stroganoffyes18:03
es1free18:03
Stroganoffthen edit Xorg.conf and replace i810 with vesa18:03
tinglethats possible? hmm18:04
tingleill give it a try but issnt the xorg.conf on the iso?18:04
Stroganoffyes i did that once with a buggy ati card18:04
Stroganoff/etc is in a ramdisk...18:04
Stroganoffif this doesnt work, add a modeline to Xorg18:05
StroganoffSection "Monitor"18:05
tinglethere is nothing in xorg.conf about a vga driver... anywhere18:06
tinglejust section "monitor" on the bottom of the config file?18:06
Stroganoffmmh Xorg in hardy is new and strange :D18:06
Stroganoffjust add a "Device" section18:06
tinglethere is a device section iirc sec ill check my pc is somewhere else ;x18:07
tingleconfigured video device18:07
tingleor something like that it will say18:07
Stroganoffthats the Identifier of the device18:08
StroganoffDriver "vesa"18:08
Stroganoffhere's a sample ;)18:08
Stroganoffhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xorg.conf18:08
tinglety ill give it a try18:09
tinglewhen i eddited the file xorg.conf an do startx i get x already started18:12
tinglebut when i do ps x | grep xorg i get no ouput18:12
gaurdrotingle  you probably have to kill X.18:16
tingleyep i know but i diddnt know how18:17
tinglecntrl+alt+backspace18:17
tingleseems to do the trick18:17
gaurdroyep,  that does it.18:18
tingle:) the wallpaper became different but everything seems ok18:18
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Stroganoffnext time: pgrep X20:00
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