[00:00] <Odd-rationale> CITguy08: ouch, that doesn't sound good... xfce doesn't start even after a hard reboot
[00:00] <Odd-rationale> ?
[00:00] <suRs> These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)
[00:00] <CITguy08> I know it has something to do with the desktop manager. That's all I know.
[00:00] <suRs> i found it
[00:00] <suRs> the theme is changed
[00:01] <suRs> omg it looks awsome O_o
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> suRs: wasnt that hard, was it
[00:01] <suRs> no really easy
[00:01] <suRs> now i know how its done!
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> CITguy08: any error messages?
[00:02] <CITguy08> It gets to the point where it says it's Loading the Desktop Manager, then segfaults and dumps me back at the login.
[00:03] <CITguy08> there seems to be an error with "restricted-manager" not being able to load as well
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> CITguy08: hmm. idk, but i i were you, i would go to ctrl+alt+f2, login there, and delete any session looking file in ~/.config...
[00:05] <suRs> how do i fix my text so its a bit bigger?
[00:05] <suRs> on the xchatt
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> suRs: never used xchat... so dunno...
[00:07] <CITguy08> I've also noticed that in ~/.config/autostart/  there is a file named Restricted Drivers Manager that doesn't seem to work. I moved that file to ~/ and tried again, but now there's a bunch of "No Name" files in the ~/.config/autostart
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> CITguy08: try moving the whole .config directory...
[00:08] <CITguy08> ok, I'll be back.
[00:13] <duncawc> hello all
[00:15] <CITguy08> success!! So something in the ~/.config was messing it up
[00:19] <CITguy08> thank you for your help
[00:19] <cody-somerville> :)
[00:20] <suRs> well
[00:20] <suRs> i have to sleep now so
[00:20] <suRs> i see you tomorrow odd
[00:20] <suRs> thanks for all help i got today :D
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> suRs: bye!
[00:36] <stequbu> Hi guys. I want to keep some of my data (music) somewhere else than my home directory. Where would you put it? And I mean keeping it on the system partition not on some other.
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: any specific reasons to do so
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> share files?
[00:37] <stequbu> yup
[00:37] <stequbu> share
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> I would create a new folder caller /home/share
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> or maybe /home/Share
[00:37] <stequbu> right but this would mean creating a new user
[00:37] <stequbu> ?
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> then put the music in /home/Share/Music
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> no, you don't need a new user
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> but you do need to be root (sudo) to create the /home/Share/ directory
[00:38] <stequbu> when I operate in nautilus I dont have the ability to create in home folder
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> so something like "sudo mkdir /home/Share"
[00:39] <stequbu> this means id have to do it via command line, ok
[00:39] <cody-somerville> stequbu, you will need to create a new group (if you want to restrict it to certain users) and/or set the permissions.
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> then i would "sudo chmod -R 777 /home/Share" so all could read and write to it...
[00:40] <Odd-rationale> actually, to be honest, i really would create a new "share" group"...
[00:40] <Odd-rationale> but 777 is the easiest way...
[00:41] <stequbu> thx odd-r. just one more thing. you propose creating the share group...
[00:41] <stequbu> i presume it would involve all users having access to it?
[00:41] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: it is more difficult that way. do you want to limit who can have access to the /home/Share folder?
[00:41] <stequbu> yes but only by means of Samba
[00:42] <Odd-rationale> so would 777 permission do for you?
[00:42] <stequbu> At first it sounded great though my knowledge is too poor to make good assesments :)
[00:45] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: well it is really up to you...
[00:45] <stequbu> Odd-r, does it make sense to you such a plan: 1) Keeping some data/ folders in /home/share and the managing the access to files by means of /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:46] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: so you only need to limit remote access to these files?
[00:47] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: btw, if you do odd-r<tab> it will auto-comlete my nick fo you...
[00:48] <stequbu> yes remotely. though locally would be also important just for security
[00:49] <Odd-rationale> ok. well we can add a new group called "share" like this: sudo groupadd share
[00:49] <Odd-rationale> then you can add yourself to that group: sudo gpasswd -a <yourusername> share
[00:50] <Odd-rationale> then we will have to give /home/share to the group share: sudo chown -R <yourusername>:share /home/share
[00:51] <Odd-rationale> then set the permissions: sudo chmod -R 775 /home/share
[00:51] <Odd-rationale> you can change 775 to fit your need.
[00:52] <Odd-rationale> you might want 770 or something else...
[00:52] <Odd-rationale> you can then add other users to the group share...
[00:52] <Odd-rationale> etc...
[00:52] <stequbu> this is perfect. thx so much
[00:53] <stequbu> one question though as to this line:  "sudo chown -R <yourusername>:share /home/share"
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> yes?
[00:54] <stequbu> why do we need  <yourusername>? wouldn't it be sufficient to assign the share folder just to group name?
[00:55] <stequbu> of which we are members?
[00:55] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: i think everything needs a member and a group...
[00:55] <Odd-rationale> you could have it owned my root:share
[00:55] <Odd-rationale> if you have root in the share group as well...
[00:56] <stequbu> i see, thank you
[00:57] <stequbu> Odd-rationale : what is your favourite way of managing the smb.conf file
[00:58] <stequbu> I was maybe thinking of some GUI but I didn't find anything like this.
[00:58] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: samba isn't exactly my territory...
[00:59] <stequbu> I see.
[00:59] <Odd-rationale> although, i would probably just edit the text file...
[00:59] <Odd-rationale> i'm not a fan of too much gui...
[01:00] <Odd-rationale> (which is why i use arch)
[01:00] <stequbu> yeah me too but I wanted to set it up for someone else
[01:00] <stequbu> though a conf fileeven in gedit will do.
[01:00] <stequbu> The last thing I was thinking about was setting up VNC so that it would be accessible also on login screen. Do you have any experiences with that?
[01:00] <Odd-rationale> no, sorry...
[01:03] <stequbu> Ok, thx. Just to make sure -  I presume our configuration will not conflict with any shares/permissions I might do in Samba ?
[01:04] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: i presume not. if smabe is running as root, you might want to be sure that root has access to the share folder as well.
[01:04] <stequbu> I thought root has access to all folders by default?
[01:05] <Odd-rationale> yes it does...
[01:06] <cody-somerville> so much to do, so little time :)
[01:10] <stequbu> Odd-rationale : does 770 mean that only people with an account on the local machine will be able to Read the folder?
[01:11] <stequbu> or that only the owner, root and group Share would be able to rwx and the rest nothing
[01:11] <Odd-rationale> the first 7 is for the user, the second 7 is for the group (share) and the third digit 0 is for others.
[01:12] <Odd-rationale> so if someone else in in the share group, s/he will have rwx permissions
[01:12] <Odd-rationale> but if s/he is not, then 0
[01:13] <Odd-rationale> or you can make it 5 for others if you want to  be able to readl
[01:14] <stequbu> Thx I'm ready to go :) I'm setting up my first server and some people should be able to use it after your help :)
[01:14] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: doing sysadmin stuff? fun!
[01:16] <stequbu> yeah but I had some weird stuff occuring - the windows disk would screw with the booting sequence
[01:16] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: my motto as a Linux system admin is: "Never use your freedom to suppress the freedom of others."
[01:17] <stequbu> sure that's my motto in life :)
[01:17] <Odd-rationale> it is easy, once you have the knowledge and power, to try to hide the that knowledge from others, so that they are in a way handicapped becuase they don't know certain things...
[01:17] <Odd-rationale> some sysadmin are afraid of letting people know "how things works"
[01:17] <Odd-rationale> "just use it a be happy..."
[01:18] <stequbu> OT: have you ever had weird stuff happening with  Routine check of drives at startup?
[01:18] <Odd-rationale> nope... like what?
[01:18] <stequbu> my updated fresh install of Hardy Heron started screwing with me
[01:19] <stequbu> At boot it fails to do the Routine drive check at 4%
[01:19] <stequbu> and unless i hit ESC before it gets there it halts and then it needs a reboot
[01:20] <stequbu> If I hit ESC the system boots noramlly
[01:20] <Odd-rationale> stequbu: maybe something wrong with your /etc/fstab ?
[01:20] <Odd-rationale> idk
[01:20] <stequbu> maybe I should run a chckdsk or sth?
[01:20] <Odd-rationale> you could try...
[01:20] <stequbu> what is /etc/fstab
[01:21] <Odd-rationale> man fstab
[01:21] <stequbu> but chckdsk wont work with Ext2 wil it?
[01:22] <stequbu> but how come can sth be wrong with fstab if the system launches normally afterwards?
[01:23] <Odd-rationale> well, i got to go eat dinner...
[01:23] <Odd-rationale> ttyl!
[01:24] <stequbu> ttyl :)
[02:14] <stequbu> I was thinking about was setting up VNC so that it would be accessible also on login screen. Do you have any experiences with that?
[02:29] <mrwizard> how do i dualboot with xubuntu for a mac with a powerpc?
[02:29] <mrwizard> it doesn't fit in any of the distros under get xubuntu
[04:05] <ron_o> how can I find why my computer is shutting down all the time?
[04:05] <ron_o> dmesg?
[04:14] <zoredache> maybe
[04:15] <zoredache> it kinda depends on why it is shutting down... if your hardware is failing then there isn't going to be anything in your logs
[04:17] <ron_o> maybe it
[04:17] <ron_o> it's gnome power manager.. I don't know. I'll see.
[07:09] <Myrtti> moin
[07:38] <suRs> morning
[07:39] <suRs> anyone know if there is any torrent download for ubuntu?
[07:48] <Myrtti> sure there are
[08:01] <zoredache> !torrent
[08:01] <zoredache> hrm...  when is ubottu's search gonna be fixed
[08:03] <suRs> i have rtorrent and it sucks
[08:07] <Myrtti> zoredache: which search?
[08:07] <zoredache> I am almost certain that when ubottu was ubotu you could do !search keyword and he would tell you all the topics
[08:08] <Myrtti> !search torrent
[08:08] <Myrtti> hmm?
[08:08] <zoredache> hrm...
[08:09] <zoredache> when I do it in a PM to ubottu I get -- <ubottu> There were no matching configuration variables.
[08:11] <suRs> how do i change the time on my klock is 1 hr ahead
[08:16] <Myrtti> zoredache: a request straight from the owner of ubottu, file a bug at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[08:39] <suRs> hadyaw
[08:39] <suRs> anyone here?
[10:13] <Ben_Cs> hello
[10:13] <Ben_Cs> anyone can help me setting up the usb sound?
[10:29] <Ben_Cs> ok i figured out the device is /dev/dsp1. now how do i make xfce-alsa-controll work with it?
[10:29] <Ben_Cs> ?
[12:06] <cody-somerville> Good Morning Xubuntu!! :)
[12:08] <PriceChild> cody-somerville: got a moment or two?
[12:08] <cody-somerville> PriceChild, certainly. Private query?
[12:17] <lhgergo> hi
[12:18] <lhgergo> i have a question: how can i run boinc on xubuntu 8.04?
[12:51] <s_arts> ping
[12:56] <cody-somerville> s_arts, pong
[12:56] <s_arts> hi cody :)_
[12:56] <cody-somerville> Hiya Stephen :)
[12:59] <s_arts> how is 8.10 doing? :_
[12:59] <aanderse> hey cody-somerville, saw your blog
[12:59] <s_arts> :)
[12:59] <aanderse> good stuff
[12:59] <s_arts> blog?
[12:59]  * s_arts wants to read :)
[12:59] <aanderse> that will probably make it easier for me to find something to do (when intrepid goals are set)
[12:59] <aanderse> so really looking forward to it :)
[13:01] <s_arts> aanderse: which blog
[13:01] <aanderse> http://cody.zapto.org/?p=28
[13:02] <s_arts> thanks :)
[13:03] <aanderse> np
[13:03] <aanderse> gotta get ready for work
[13:03] <aanderse> bbl
[13:03] <s_arts> hmm, NY ?
[13:15] <aanderse> NY?
[13:20] <ablomen> does anybody here know if theres an easy (as in not having to add the menu items myself) way to get all the seperate configuration utils to the applications/rightclick menu like it was in gutsy?
[13:20] <ablomen> (so in the settings submenu)
[13:21]  * ablomen doesnt like to open the settings manager to edit stuff
[13:24] <cody-somerville> ablomen, you would have to edit the desktop files
[13:25] <ablomen> cody-somerville, they are already made? just have to enable them?
[13:25] <cody-somerville> ablomen, I believe so
[13:25] <ablomen> thanks ill go look in to that
[13:25] <cody-somerville> Actually, I know they were deleted at one point but readded but just disabled
[13:26] <cody-somerville> So you might be unlucky :P
[13:26] <ablomen> lol ah well i can always see if they are in there somewhere *crosses fingers* ;)
[13:26] <cody-somerville> /usr/share/applications/
[13:27] <ablomen> yeah already there, thanks though :)
[13:27] <cody-somerville> np
[13:27] <cody-somerville> :)
[13:29] <ablomen> meh cant seem to find them
[13:29] <ablomen> ah well i can learn to live with the settings manager i guess
[13:30] <cody-somerville> sorry :(
[13:31] <ablomen> heh well user friendlieness > some things only a group of people want, can always add them myself :)
[13:32] <ablomen> oh your the project lead cody-somerville ?
[13:32] <cody-somerville> ablomen, guilty :]
[13:32] <ablomen> oh nice that your actually on the irc channel :)
[13:32] <ablomen> dont see that often
[13:34]  * ablomen knows who to spam for new features now :P
[13:34] <cody-somerville> :D
[13:34] <cody-somerville> ablomen, Have you considered getting involved? :)
[13:35] <ablomen> well yeah id love to help with the programming, but the problem mainly for me is that i only really use php/javascript/perl etc
[13:36] <ablomen> play with other stuff from time to time but python seems to hate me (im not even kidding) and c* is a bit over my head atm
[13:36] <cody-somerville> No need to know how to program
[13:36] <cody-somerville> Most of the work is packaging, bug triage, and other fun junk :)
[13:36] <ablomen> haha
[13:37] <ablomen> do you guys have like a wiki page with "job openings"? or looking for someone to do something in particular?
[13:38] <cody-somerville> ablomen, http://xubuntu.org/devel
[13:40] <ablomen> hmm im gonna look at the packaging deal this weekend, always wanted to learn how to do that :)
[13:43] <cody-somerville> ablomen, feel free to hang out with us in #xubuntu-devel too
[13:43] <cody-somerville> You can also read my blog at http://cody.zapto.org
[13:44] <ablomen> :) ill do that
[14:00] <black_ops> hi
[14:01] <cody-somerville> Hi
[14:01] <black_ops> does anyone know how to remove the boot image . i got a xandros machine with the xandros init
[14:01] <black_ops> image
[14:01] <black_ops> i think it is messing up my installs
[14:02] <black_ops> it came with xandros
[14:02] <black_ops> on it
[14:02] <black_ops> i want to put xubuntu or ubuntu on it
[14:03] <cody-somerville> Just install Xubuntu :)
[14:03] <black_ops> i have burned 3 cds all fail
[14:03] <black_ops> xubuntu is the only 1 that did work
[14:03] <black_ops> but i tried to reinstall it
[14:04] <black_ops> and im getting bootstrap errors
[14:06] <cody-somerville> Weird :I/
[14:19] <nd___> Anyone has a clue where to find a fairly complete set of mime-type icons?
[14:19] <ablomen> nd___, as in extra icon themes?
[14:20] <nd___> Actually I don't want to use it in any wm but in the web... so it has to be under an open license.
[14:21] <nd___> Therefor it doesn't really matter how it's packaged...
[14:21] <ablomen> /usr/share/icons
[14:21] <ablomen> there are all the default icon themes installed
[14:21] <nd___> ablomen: As I don't have a xubuntu running atm, is there a possibility I can get the mime-type icons from you?
[14:21] <ablomen> lol im not going to upload all of them
[14:21] <nd___> ok
[14:22] <ablomen> just use the ubuntu package search
[14:22] <ablomen> i think you can donwload the deb's from there
[14:23] <ablomen> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=tango&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all << for example here
[14:23] <nd___> Thanks I will try that
[14:24] <ablomen> np, good luck
[14:24] <ablomen> oh and put the creator of the icons in the credits of your site ;)
[14:24] <nd___> I will
[14:25] <nd___> Well, e.g. with the tango-icon-theme there are only like 30 mimetypes...
[14:26] <ablomen> well there is more then one package, look in the other ones :)
[14:27] <ablomen> should be 144 of them, though most are symlinks
[14:28] <nd___> ablomen: Tried all links on the site above I only found these 30 types.
[14:28] <nd___> 144 sounds more like it
[14:28] <nd___> I might get and run the xbuntu live-cd and get them from there...
[14:29] <ablomen> http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library << you can look here too
[14:30] <nd___> Did. Doesn't contain good mime-types
[15:18] <black_ops> debootstrab warning
[15:19] <black_ops> any you guys ever see that?
[15:19] <black_ops> should i continue?
[15:19] <black_ops> or is it screwed?
[15:19] <black_ops> during install?
[15:20] <black_ops> man this is frusterating
[15:21] <black_ops> my hardware don't like xubuntu
[15:21] <black_ops> ubuntu
[15:21] <black_ops> im getting all kinds of errors
[15:21] <nd___> ablomen: How are the mimetype-icons sorted in /usr/local/icons? like application-x-dvi.png?
[15:21] <black_ops> it does this with fedora 2
[15:22] <black_ops> install base system failed
[15:23] <black_ops> im trying to install it over xandros
[15:23] <black_ops> it came native on the box
[15:24] <nd___> ablomen: Otherwise I wonder how they map it to actual types... weird non-scheme naming it seems to me
[15:29] <black_ops> could it be mbr?
[15:34] <thinkmassive> black_ops: did you specify to erase and use the entire disk?
[15:35] <black_ops> ill try that now
[15:35] <black_ops> again
[15:36] <black_ops> i haven't today but have in the past
[15:36] <black_ops> i got a floppy in it
[15:38] <black_ops> i installed it twice
[15:39] <black_ops> it worked as a command line system install
[15:39] <black_ops> but when i tried it again
[15:39] <black_ops> no cigar
[15:40] <black_ops> and hasn't worked again
[15:40] <black_ops> i haved tried going on 10 times id say
[15:40] <black_ops> have*
[15:41] <black_ops> i have burned ubuntu and alternative iso
[15:42] <black_ops> neither work
[15:42] <black_ops> x is the only thing i have got working
[15:43] <black_ops> lol
[15:43] <black_ops> now its hung won't even try to install
[15:44] <black_ops> i like x
[15:44] <black_ops> maybe my disk is bunk
[15:44] <black_ops> but i have already wasted 3
[15:45] <black_ops> hrrrm
[15:45] <black_ops> something interesting
[15:46] <TheSheep> !md5
[15:50] <xya^> Heya! Could someone maybe tell me, in which config-file xubuntu/xfce stores the configuration-variables for the mouse settings?
[15:51] <xya^> Although acceleration-bar is set to the minimum, the mouse is still way tooo fast. :(
[17:27] <n3urogod> gday all
[17:28] <thinkmassive> greetings n3urogod
[17:29] <thinkmassive> how goes it?
[17:30] <n3urogod> meh
[17:30] <n3urogod> :P
[17:30] <n3urogod> Im really tired and having issues with getting the nvidia driver to work
[17:31] <n3urogod> and you?
[17:55] <thinkmassive> finally getting around to load testing my webservers
[17:55] <thinkmassive> it's reminiscent of sim city 2000... I'd type in the code for infinite $$, build a huge city, then unleash the monster on it
[17:56] <thinkmassive> time for our free friday lunch, bbl :)
[17:59] <tingle> hello, i just tried to install xubuntu for the first time the iso loads but once the ubuntu background is loaded i get this HUGE screen whit HUGE fonts telling me i can start the install or something like that
[18:00] <tingle> but its to big to really install the os.. i cant download a alternate cd because im out of cd's :( is there a way to bypass this?
[18:00] <tingle> perhaps i can fix a xorg driver or something like that when the os is installed
[18:01] <tingle> in debian i normally use i810 as driver im telling this so perhaps anyone here knows its a issue or something like  that
[18:01] <Stroganoff> !alternate | tingle
[18:02] <Stroganoff> oops sorry
[18:02] <Stroganoff> ur out of cd mmkay
[18:02] <Stroganoff> press ctrl+alt+f6 or something
[18:03] <tingle> Stroganoff: np, that will make it switch to tty correct?
[18:03] <Stroganoff> yes
[18:03] <es1> free
[18:03] <Stroganoff> then edit Xorg.conf and replace i810 with vesa
[18:04] <tingle> thats possible? hmm
[18:04] <tingle> ill give it a try but issnt the xorg.conf on the iso?
[18:04] <Stroganoff> yes i did that once with a buggy ati card
[18:04] <Stroganoff> /etc is in a ramdisk...
[18:05] <Stroganoff> if this doesnt work, add a modeline to Xorg
[18:05] <Stroganoff> Section "Monitor"
[18:06] <tingle> there is nothing in xorg.conf about a vga driver... anywhere
[18:06] <tingle> just section "monitor" on the bottom of the config file?
[18:06] <Stroganoff> mmh Xorg in hardy is new and strange :D
[18:06] <Stroganoff> just add a "Device" section
[18:07] <tingle> there is a device section iirc sec ill check my pc is somewhere else ;x
[18:07] <tingle> configured video device
[18:07] <tingle> or something like that it will say
[18:08] <Stroganoff> thats the Identifier of the device
[18:08] <Stroganoff> Driver "vesa"
[18:08] <Stroganoff> here's a sample ;)
[18:08] <Stroganoff> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xorg.conf
[18:09] <tingle> ty ill give it a try
[18:12] <tingle> when i eddited the file xorg.conf an do startx i get x already started
[18:12] <tingle> but when i do ps x | grep xorg i get no ouput
[18:16] <gaurdro> tingle  you probably have to kill X.
[18:17] <tingle> yep i know but i diddnt know how
[18:17] <tingle> cntrl+alt+backspace
[18:17] <tingle> seems to do the trick
[18:18] <gaurdro> yep,  that does it.
[18:18] <tingle> :) the wallpaper became different but everything seems ok
[20:00] <Stroganoff> next time: pgrep X