| === santiago-ve is now known as Guest94467 | ||
| === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| daskreech | wheee $.1 | 02:48 |
|---|---|---|
| daskreech | 4.1 | 02:48 |
| JontheEchidna | you had my hopes. up I even apt-get updated and it said I had upgradable packages. :( | 02:52 |
| JontheEchidna | But still the only 4.1 packages available are kdelibs and kdebase | 02:52 |
| daskreech | ok maybe I'm delusional | 02:53 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 02:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Instead I get stupid upgradable openoffice packages :( | 02:53 |
| daskreech | I have Oo.o 3 | 02:56 |
| JontheEchidna | 2.4.1~rc1 | 02:56 |
| JontheEchidna | Well actually, 2.4.0 | 02:57 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm upgrading to 2.4.1 rc1 | 02:57 |
| dbglt | with the recent update | 03:16 |
| dbglt | The following packages are BROKEN: | 03:17 |
| dbglt | openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za | 03:17 |
| JontheEchidna | I just uninstalled those, thank goodness | 03:17 |
| dbglt | JontheEchidna: it wants to install thunderbird for some bizzare reason | 03:17 |
| JontheEchidna | o.O | 03:17 |
| JontheEchidna | I didn't need them anyway since I don't need a South African English dictionary | 03:17 |
| JontheEchidna | or a british english one | 03:17 |
| dbglt | I need an Australian one | 03:18 |
| dbglt | UK one is close | 03:18 |
| JontheEchidna | Those are some pretty big packages too | 03:18 |
| dbglt | why the hell does it want to install thunderbird? | 03:19 |
| JontheEchidna | No clue, maybe one of the language packs is depending on thunderbird incorrectly | 03:19 |
| dbglt | Remove the following packages: | 03:19 |
| dbglt | language-pack-en, language-pack-en-base, language-support-en, language-support-translations-en, openoffice.org-help-en-gg, | 03:19 |
| dbglt | Install the following packages: | 03:19 |
| dbglt | ,thunderbird [2.0.0.14+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy-updates, hardy-security)] | 03:19 |
| dbglt | JontheEchidna: do I need those language packs? | 03:19 |
| JontheEchidna | Yes | 03:20 |
| dbglt | JontheEchidna: that's the suggested solution... | 03:20 |
| dbglt | hrm | 03:20 |
| JontheEchidna | I've run into a bug where opening file dialog in any GTK app cause it to segfault | 03:20 |
| JontheEchidna | and some webpages in firefox do the same thing | 03:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Maybe it's gtk-qt-engine + half upgraded KDE... | 03:21 |
| JontheEchidna | Yeah, it's gtk-qt-engine | 03:23 |
| daskreech | So what did I miss while 4.1 crashed? :) | 04:04 |
| daskreech | :-D | 04:29 |
| daskreech | There is a Gnome Theme for KDE4? | 04:29 |
| santiago-ve | hey guys... a quick question before going to sleep... when merging packages... which one should i use?... DaD or MoM? | 04:48 |
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | ||
| Arby | mhb: I've just merged jockey trunk with jockey-kde and merged my branch in as discussed the other day | 10:04 |
| Arby | mhb: could you take a look when you get a minute to check all is ok | 10:05 |
| Arby | mhb: also I have some ideas to discuss regarding the aboutdata whenever you have a minute | 10:05 |
| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| mhb | Arby: hi | 10:26 |
| mhb | seele: I'll be here for around 5 hours, if you wanted something from me | 10:27 |
| mhb | Arby: still around? | 10:28 |
| * mhb wishes he had his laptop | 10:29 | |
| Arby | mhb: back | 10:44 |
| Arby | mhb: there is a file called /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/jockey-0.3.3.egg-info | 10:45 |
| Arby | that contain much of the metadata required for aboutdata | 10:45 |
| Arby | mhb: is that a reasonable thing to rely on to extract the information.? | 10:46 |
| Arby | to save having to hard code it, which is bad | 10:47 |
| Arby | mhb: also, I've converted the icon loading to KIcon(name) as discussed | 10:47 |
| Arby | not uploaded yet though | 10:47 |
| mhb | hmm | 10:57 |
| mhb | Arby: I'm not familiar with an .egg file... | 10:57 |
| Arby | neither am I but it seems to contain the right info, and it exists in the installed version of jockey in my system | 10:58 |
| Arby | so it seems safe to expect it to be there to me | 10:59 |
| Arby | but I wanted another opinion | 10:59 |
| mhb | hmm | 10:59 |
| mhb | the problem is, can we always access it? | 10:59 |
| Arby | I think so | 10:59 |
| mhb | suppose jockey-kde was on a Fedora system and the path changed, are you still able to access it? | 10:59 |
| Arby | ok I see your point | 11:00 |
| Arby | back to the drawing board then | 11:00 |
| mhb | hmm | 11:00 |
| mhb | GNOME also does have those About windows, right< | 11:01 |
| mhb | ? | 11:01 |
| Arby | don't know, I assume so | 11:01 |
| mhb | hmm, jockey does not, it seems | 11:01 |
| Arby | is there a geneeric way to do this? | 11:03 |
| Arby | it doesn't seem like a new problem | 11:03 |
| Arby | hmm, system-config-printer just has it coded directly as I did before | 11:06 |
| mhb | hmm , can't you just somehow omit the data? | 11:09 |
| mhb | to me it seems silly that every application has to have those | 11:09 |
| Arby | the root of the problem is that KCmdLineArgs seems to need it | 11:11 |
| Arby | I could pass it to KCmdLineArgs directly but that just displaces the problem | 11:11 |
| Arby | sorry that's ambiguous, I could pass the content of aboutData to KCmdLineArgs directly as individual variables | 11:15 |
| Arby | but as I said that just moves the problem | 11:15 |
| Arby | (back in ~15 min) | 11:16 |
| mhb | right | 11:16 |
| mhb | see you then | 11:16 |
| mornfall | Whee. | 11:19 |
| === jords__ is now known as jords | ||
| seele | mhb: ah, i wanted you to be part of the kgrubeditor confersation i was hvaing with artemis yesterday, but i think we got everything resolved | 13:44 |
| seele | mhb: automagic is going to be a problem | 13:44 |
| sime | Does anyone kwow what happened to pyuic4 in the python-qt4 packages? | 14:29 |
| nosrednaekim | it was moved to the -dev IIRC | 14:29 |
| sime | it doesn't appear to be in there. | 14:30 |
| sime | 4.3.3-2ubntu-2 | 14:30 |
| nosrednaekim | ok, i'll do some dpkg searching. | 14:31 |
| nosrednaekim | pyqt4-dev-tools | 14:31 |
| nosrednaekim | is the package | 14:32 |
| jeroen- | strange updates today | 14:33 |
| jeroen- | adept wants to remove some language packages and install thunderbird. together with a lot of openoffice stuff. | 14:34 |
| jeroen- | apt-get update/upgrade just wants to hold the OOo updates back, but wants nothing to remove or install!? | 14:35 |
| jeroen- | so apt-get seems ok, but adept not | 14:35 |
| jeroen- | whats up? | 14:35 |
| jeroen- | oh wait, thats because adept doea a dist-upgrade | 14:36 |
| jeroen- | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 14:37 |
| jeroen- | language-support-nl language-support-translations-nl openoffice.org-help-nl openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb | 14:37 |
| jeroen- | openoffice.org-l10n-en-za openoffice.org-l10n-nl | 14:37 |
| sime | nosrednaekim: thanks, that was it. I can never remember that package name. *-devel should be enough. | 14:37 |
| jeroen- | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 14:37 |
| jeroen- | gimp-help-en thunderbird thunderbird-locale-en-gb | 14:37 |
| jeroen- | The following packages will be upgraded: | 14:38 |
| jeroen- | dpkg dpkg-dev dselect initramfs-tools libntfs-3g23 libparted1.7-1 libpolkit-gnome0 ntfs-3g openoffice.org .........etc....... | 14:38 |
| mhb | seele: it always has been | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: where is beta1? | 16:46 |
| nosrednaekim | Awol | 16:46 |
| smarter | :D | 16:47 |
| fabo | Riddell: funny, i found Qt4.4 in launchpad but not in package.ubuntu.com | 16:47 |
| fabo | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libqtgui4&searchon=names&suite=intrepid§ion=all | 16:48 |
| smarter | PUC is not up to date | 16:48 |
| fabo | so known bug :) | 16:49 |
| DreadKnight | are we there yet? xD | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | where? | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | bugland? | 16:59 |
| * apachelogger shouts kde-nightly-qt and wonders why everyone @ linuxtag looks at him | 17:00 | |
| DreadKnight | um... not bugland :D | 17:05 |
| DreadKnight | kde4.1beta :D | 17:05 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: working on them...a lot of work getting them ready | 17:14 |
| nixternal | there are just so many dependency changes between 4.0 and 4.1...it is crazy | 17:14 |
| nixternal | making sure none of the files are missing, and making sure it installs, and making sure it runs, and making sure it crashes only your system :P | 17:15 |
| nosrednaekim | its ok nixternal... take your time :) | 17:16 |
| nixternal | ya, I am not just gonna toss packages out there if they don't work...testing them all first, even if it is a beta | 17:23 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: we appreciate your work :D | 17:44 |
| === Hobbsee is now known as Guest78382 | ||
| === txwikinger is now known as txwikinger2 | ||
| === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger | ||
| * nixternal finally has kdebase-workspace building correctly | 18:13 | |
| smarter | nixternal: w00t! | 18:14 |
| nixternal | I had lintian errors out the whazoo | 18:15 |
| DreadKnight | yey :D | 18:19 |
| === uga is now known as uga|away | ||
| nixternal | can you put unstable packages into a ppa or do they have to be ubuntuized? | 19:07 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: so what's the point of the ppa then? :D | 19:09 |
| DreadKnight | you can just upload stuff to a branch then... | 19:10 |
| DreadKnight | ppa packages don't need to be approved if that's what you mean | 19:11 |
| nixternal | hrmm, Riddell will pciutils-dev work for kdebase instead of libpci-dev? | 19:11 |
| nixternal | I am not to sure I want to place the new pciutils package into the Hardy PPA | 19:12 |
| === uga|away is now known as uga | ||
| nixternal | DreadKnight: I know they don't need to be approved, but you can't upload a package to a PPA if the changelog has the release set to unstable | 19:13 |
| nixternal | actually, I know pciutils-dev will work (I think) | 19:13 |
| DreadKnight | hmm | 19:14 |
| nixternal | I have been building kde4 trunk on hardy, and there is no libpci-dev, only pciutils-dev | 19:15 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:dhkWxttiLjQJ:groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.devel.release/browse_thread/thread/f1f2c72322144a9d+libpci+pciutils&hl=ro&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ro&client=firefox-a | 19:17 |
| jpds | where can I grab the lastest kde.mk for KDE4? | 19:27 |
| jpds | nixternal: maybe you know?^ it's for vorian's package (about to upload) | 19:36 |
| nixternal | any of the 4.0.4 packages | 19:44 |
| jpds | I was afraid of that.. | 19:44 |
| nixternal | Riddell: check your kdebase package in Intrepid...something tells me you grabbed a bad tarball, as the 01_ patch has already been applied upstream in the tarball I grabbed from ktown | 19:56 |
| * nixternal builds kdebase | 20:10 | |
| nixternal | go apps go! | 20:10 |
| nixternal | hey, if I am working today, then you all are working today!!! | 20:15 |
| nixternal | nobody passed on a request for time off to me at all for this weekend :p | 20:15 |
| DreadKnight | :) | 20:16 |
| nixternal | god I love the planet.ubuntu.com | 20:19 |
| DreadKnight | me too | 20:20 |
| jpds | nixternal: I think I may have set -ops off | 20:22 |
| * vorian waves | 20:38 | |
| vorian | jpds: which package? | 20:38 |
| jpds | vorian: k9copy, it's okay, but it still goes to /usr/lib/kde4 | 20:40 |
| vorian | rrrr | 20:40 |
| jpds | vorian: is that for the package, or re: planet ubuntu? | 20:41 |
| vorian | well, I can't really comment on the planet you know ;) | 20:42 |
| nixternal | jpds: ahh, if you are doing k9copy for intrepid, you will also need to change the current k9copy to become something like k9copy-kde3...but I don't know 100% how the old kde3 packages are going | 20:42 |
| vorian | I can do that :) | 20:42 |
| jpds | nixternal: Ri.ddell said to replace. | 20:42 |
| vorian | ah, nevermind | 20:42 |
| nixternal | are we getting rid of everything kde3 then? | 20:43 |
| * nixternal hopes not | 20:43 | |
| jpds | Think so | 20:43 |
| jpds | vorian: you can still update it! | 20:43 |
| vorian | roger that | 20:43 |
| jpds | vorian: poke me when you're done and I'll upload ASAP | 20:45 |
| vorian | jpds: which one? | 20:45 |
| jpds | vorian: k9copy | 20:45 |
| vorian | original? k9copy > k9copy-kde3? | 20:46 |
| * vorian is suddenly confused | 20:46 | |
| jpds | replace the kde3 with the kde4 on revu | 20:47 |
| vorian | so drop the -kde4 then | 20:47 |
| jpds | yeaj | 20:47 |
| jpds | err, s/j/h/ | 20:47 |
| vorian | werd | 20:48 |
| vorian | :) | 20:48 |
| vorian | jpds: update the debian/cdbs as well, or leave it as is? | 20:54 |
| jpds | vorian: yeah, that's what I was asking n1x.ternal | 20:56 |
| vorian | I'll pull then from the -members ppa | 20:56 |
| vorian | or not ... | 20:57 |
| vorian | alrighty jpds, http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=k9copy | 21:03 |
| * jpds downloads | 21:04 | |
| jpds | vorian: DEB_CMAKE_PREFIX = /usr/lib/kde4 | 21:08 |
| vorian | oops | 21:08 |
| vorian | where can I find a package with 4.0.4 mojo for cdbs? | 21:16 |
| vorian | nixternal: ^ :P | 21:16 |
| nixternal | any of them | 21:16 |
| nixternal | if you are going to intrepid, you don't want to use those files | 21:16 |
| === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed | ||
| JontheEchidna | If I am correct the base packages for 4.1 are now in the kubuntu-members kde4 ppa now? | 21:40 |
| JontheEchidna | kdebase-workspace-bin depends on x11-server-utils but apt can't find that package | 22:03 |
| JontheEchidna | Well, the 4.1 package in the ppa anyway | 22:03 |
| nixternal | just noticed that, but it builds | 22:07 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: they are not complete, the ones in PPA | 22:08 |
| nixternal | if you grab them, plan on using KDE 3 for a while :) | 22:08 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I'm in virtual terminals 1-3 with irssi at the moment | 22:10 |
| * JontheEchidna is stoopid | 22:10 | |
| JontheEchidna | command line isn't that bad, though | 22:10 |
| JontheEchidna | It's nice and fast, for one thign | 22:10 |
| JontheEchidna | would it be safe to use the dpkg --ignore-depends on the deb? | 22:12 |
| nixternal | nope | 22:12 |
| nixternal | if you install what is there, none of your kde4 apps will work | 22:12 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, I know that. I have already installed it all and kdebase-workspace is gone | 22:13 |
| JontheEchidna | I probably should have mentioned that I'm trying to get kdebase-workspace back :P | 22:13 |
| nixternal | remove the ppa and then purge kdebase-workspace, then rm -rf ~/.kde4 | 22:14 |
| JontheEchidna | k, thanks | 22:15 |
| JontheEchidna | brb | 22:15 |
| mustela | not too pester and i imagine this questions get asked a lot but ... what's the ETA for kde 4.1 beta packages? | 22:17 |
| DreadKnight | :) | 22:17 |
| DreadKnight | eager to try it out myself | 22:17 |
| mustela | DreadKnight: my other laptop runs debian and the packages from experimental are awesome! :) | 22:18 |
| DreadKnight | cool | 22:18 |
| mustela | 4.1 beta > 4.0.3 :D | 22:18 |
| DreadKnight | i run 4.0.4 | 22:18 |
| DreadKnight | openSuse supports kde4 pretty well it seems | 22:19 |
| mustela | yup | 22:19 |
| mustela | fedora does too for that matter ... but not as well as opensuse but they've got a ton of kde devs though ... but this is off-topic here :) | 22:20 |
| DreadKnight | :) | 22:20 |
| DreadKnight | daskreech: welmcome :) | 22:20 |
| DreadKnight | welcome* | 22:20 |
| cartman | Riddell: lo, any update on KDE 4.1 on intrepid? | 22:21 |
| daskreech | Hey DreadKnight how are you doing? | 22:21 |
| cartman | I finally succeeded installing KUbuntu on my MacBookPro | 22:21 |
| daskreech | you keep popping up :) | 22:21 |
| DreadKnight | daskreech: hehe | 22:21 |
| DreadKnight | eager to try out 4.1beta :D | 22:22 |
| DreadKnight | what about you daskreech? | 22:22 |
| daskreech | sI'm on it now | 22:22 |
| * mustela would be shocked if debian releases on time as they could be the first distro to ship 4.1 | 22:22 | |
| daskreech | They currently have some debate as to if it should be included or not | 22:23 |
| daskreech | THough they will probably ship CDs with Gnome as default in any case | 22:23 |
| mustela | daskreech: yup cd1 is gnome not kde ;) | 22:23 |
| mustela | daskreech: the kde 4.1 beta packages in experimental are sweet though | 22:23 |
| daskreech | Yeah I know. I'm on the Suse Live CD and though it's driving me nuts I'm still booting into it | 22:24 |
| daskreech | All the new features adn new bugs are pretty exciting :) | 22:24 |
| * daskreech finds Google nicely broken | 22:24 | |
| DreadKnight | xD | 22:24 |
| daskreech | Though that's fixed in trunk already | 22:24 |
| DreadKnight | daskreech: do you have sound on dragonplayer? | 22:25 |
| DreadKnight | in* | 22:25 |
| daskreech | DreadKnight: Where? | 22:26 |
| daskreech | on my install no | 22:26 |
| daskreech | onthe Live cd yes | 22:26 |
| DreadKnight | anywhere xD | 22:26 |
| DreadKnight | sound not working for me in dragonplayer for months... | 22:26 |
| daskreech | I can't get it sorted on my install but thats cause I chose not to install phonon | 22:27 |
| DreadKnight | :D | 22:28 |
| DreadKnight | i got my popcorn now.. i'm gonna watch some movie... need to waste some time :-) | 22:29 |
| DreadKnight | bbl | 22:29 |
| daskreech | ok | 22:29 |
| daskreech | DreadKnight: Get popkorn It's nicer ;-) | 22:30 |
| DreadKnight | daskreech: indeed :D cheers! | 22:30 |
| nixternal | just put up a new kdebase-workspace | 22:42 |
| nixternal | hopefully this will squash some dep issues | 22:43 |
| jjesse_ | wow is freenode having problems? | 22:43 |
| jjesse_ | on trrillian i'm gettting no user list and its taking forever to join channels | 22:43 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 22:43 |
| JontheEchidna | now I have a weird mix of 4.0.80 and 4.0.4 | 22:43 |
| nixternal | that's cuz the packages are not complete | 22:44 |
| JontheEchidna | but at least I have a working desktop environment with wobbly windows | 22:44 |
| nixternal | hehe | 22:44 |
| JontheEchidna | :D | 22:44 |
| nixternal | at least you got that much...I have a bit of a dependency issue going on here....just cleaned out the cache, gonna check again | 22:44 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, that was a pain to get through | 22:45 |
| JontheEchidna | I remember back in the mid 90s when I'd want to play flash games on the linux computers my dad administrated | 22:45 |
| JontheEchidna | Or maybe more like the late 90s | 22:46 |
| jjesse_ | is there something going on w/ irc? | 22:46 |
| JontheEchidna | That was my first experience with dependencies | 22:46 |
| JontheEchidna | and they have haunted me ever since | 22:46 |
| nixternal | jjesse_: freenode is a flake today it seems | 22:48 |
| jjesse_ | its wierd i have joined some channels, but not showing any users and other issues | 22:49 |
| jjesse_ | i have no idea whats going on | 22:49 |
| daskreech | jjesse_: I got lag with joining chans as well | 22:49 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| jjesse | i'm not getting al ist of users either | 22:50 |
| daskreech | JontheEchidna: Nothing like installing Redhat and then driving over to someone's house to get some RPMS driving a few hours home to find out that they have dependencies | 22:50 |
| daskreech | Ahmm Think I'll go back next week and get those | 22:51 |
| cartman | what did you guys install to get a usable KDE4.1 wobblyness? :) | 22:51 |
| jjesse | thanks for the info | 22:51 |
| jjesse | daskreech that would suck to have to drive back :) | 22:51 |
| daskreech | jjesse: Maybe you have that info squashed ? | 22:51 |
| jjesse | daskreech: i don't, i can't even do tab completion for users | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | cartman you don't want to install just yet | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | unless you are man enough to face... dependency hell! | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | and a potentially broken system | 22:52 |
| cartman | JontheEchidna: I did install Kubuntu on MacBookPro :P | 22:52 |
| cartman | thats man enough | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 22:52 |
| daskreech | jjesse: hmm that's strange. that's only happened to me once | 22:52 |
| cartman | though I'll wait indeed | 22:52 |
| cartman | :) | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | I added the ppa used for the gutsy kde4 packages | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | and upgraded | 22:52 |
| daskreech | #kde-mac :) | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | then I removed the last traces of kdebase-workspace and reinstalled 4.0.4's kdebase-workspace | 22:53 |
| JontheEchidna | kwin-kde4 4.0.80 stayed behind and I achieved wobbliness | 22:53 |
| cartman | ah :) | 22:54 |
| cartman | hope this makes it to alpha1 | 22:54 |
| nixternal | alrighty, heading out for some food and to chill a bit...I shall return to complete kde 4.1 beta 1 packages | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | k, thanks for the work you've done so far. I'm happy. :) | 22:54 |
| nixternal | oh, and you will get happier :) | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, dolphin + tabs ftw | 22:55 |
| nixternal | kdebase-kde4 is up now, so konsole-kde4 and the main apps (konqi) are updated | 22:55 |
| JontheEchidna | but you would recommend waiting still? | 22:55 |
| cartman | nixternal: yay but isn't the name is kdebase now ? | 22:55 |
| nixternal | just shhhhh, don't tell the world because I don't want them bitching when I destroy their computers :) | 22:55 |
| JontheEchidna | hehe | 22:55 |
| nixternal | cartman: we can't do that in hardy | 22:55 |
| cartman | I care about intrepid ;) | 22:55 |
| cartman | bleeder edge | 22:55 |
| JontheEchidna | so is the kdebase-workspace dependency issue resolved now? | 22:56 |
| nixternal | well I am not working on the kde4 packages in intrepid, I am backporting for the hardy users | 22:56 |
| cartman | nixternal: remember you, from pko, good work | 22:56 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: do you remember what the dep issue was? I forgot | 22:56 |
| JontheEchidna | x11-server-utils | 22:56 |
| JontheEchidna | no such package | 22:56 |
| nixternal | ya, removed those | 22:56 |
| nixternal | was it complaining when you tried to install? | 22:56 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 22:56 |
| smarter_ | ksmserver conflicts with kdebase-workspace-data | 22:57 |
| === smarter_ is now known as smarter | ||
| daskreech | wait | 22:57 |
| daskreech | dolphin has tabs? | 22:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Heh, here we are bogging down nixternal with more work | 22:57 |
| JontheEchidna | daskreech: in 4.1, yes | 22:57 |
| smarter | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop', which is also in package ksmserver | 22:57 |
| nixternal | oooh, that would suck | 22:58 |
| * daskreech implodes | 22:58 | |
| daskreech | ok so I need konversation back | 22:59 |
| daskreech | KOnversation has no code but has icons | 22:59 |
| daskreech | That sucketh | 22:59 |
| JontheEchidna | heh, yeah | 22:59 |
| JontheEchidna | when I originally updated to these packages all I could do was log in to failsafe | 23:00 |
| daskreech | I'm so torn :( | 23:03 |
| daskreech | I wanna update to 4.1 but I wanna test the 4.0.5 packages as well | 23:03 |
| JontheEchidna | the change log is smaller this time between 4.0.4 | 23:04 |
| DreadKnight | do you guys ever get to see any change log in adept? | 23:05 |
| JontheEchidna | not recently | 23:05 |
| DreadKnight | in synaptic it works. but never in adept... | 23:05 |
| JontheEchidna | it always 404's | 23:05 |
| DreadKnight | yeah | 23:05 |
| DreadKnight | my kdm-kde4 looks like crap.. | 23:05 |
| daskreech | JontheEchidna: Hmm | 23:06 |
| daskreech | Sounds like something to dig into | 23:06 |
| daskreech | can't be that hard to fix | 23:06 |
| smarter | http://cli-apps.org/content/show.php/lchangelog?content=71530 << a little script I made some time ago to check changelog of installed packages | 23:06 |
| daskreech | there is a KDE4 Adept port going on right ? | 23:06 |
| JontheEchidna | DreadKnight: Mine too | 23:07 |
| JontheEchidna | blue background? | 23:07 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: erm... even worse.. | 23:07 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 23:07 |
| JontheEchidna | mine is entirely blue | 23:07 |
| DreadKnight | daskreech: hope they'll just use shaman 2, way better than adept and synaptic, nicer gui, policykit as backend soon and using qt4 already | 23:08 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: heh... that would be nice ... mine makes teeth hurt | 23:08 |
| * daskreech likes adept | 23:09 | |
| DreadKnight | daskreech: me too, but shaman2 is way better in every way xD | 23:09 |
| DreadKnight | imho | 23:09 |
| mustela | hopefully packagekit's apt backend will become fully funtionally and the qt port gets finished | 23:09 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: Konqueror-kde4 is looking for kdebase-data instead of the kde4 counterpart | 23:10 |
| DreadKnight | it's the same thing like with kaffeine / dragonplayer (or not xD ) | 23:10 |
| DreadKnight | what's the PPA for 4.1 btw? | 23:10 |
| JontheEchidna | the same one used for gutsy KDE4 backports | 23:11 |
| JontheEchidna | It's in the 4.0.3 release announcement at kubuntu.org | 23:12 |
| DreadKnight | guessed so | 23:12 |
| mustela | DreadKnight: but as far as i can it's uninstallable at the moment | 23:13 |
| DreadKnight | https://edge.launchpad.net/kde4-backports | 23:13 |
| mustela | kdebase-runtime-data-common poops out | 23:13 |
| DreadKnight | mustela: oh | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | you can override that error, if it's pooping about trying to install files in other packages | 23:13 |
| mustela | JontheEchidna: how? | 23:14 |
| JontheEchidna | dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/debname | 23:14 |
| DreadKnight | https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4 | 23:14 |
| DreadKnight | hmm | 23:14 |
| JontheEchidna | but... proceed with caution | 23:14 |
| JontheEchidna | queue ominous *dun dun dun* | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | <3 kwin compositing | 23:16 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe I'll boot into my intrepid partition and see if 4.1 packages are done there... | 23:17 |
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| JontheEchidna | oh shi- plasma is missing | 23:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I wonder what I did this time | 23:20 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, dpkg never finished setting up plamsa | 23:20 |
| JontheEchidna | brb, rebooting | 23:22 |
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| DreadKnight | i added the ppa, but kdebase-workspace-bin is marked for removal... not good :\ | 23:29 |
| DreadKnight | should i proceed anyway or what? xD | 23:31 |
| JontheEchidna | proceeding will cause you not to be able to login to KDE4 | 23:31 |
| DreadKnight | =) | 23:31 |
| mustela | oh those ppa 4.1 packages let me without a working kde ... not surprised ;) | 23:46 |
| JontheEchidna | same here | 23:50 |
| JontheEchidna | kdebase-workspace was probalby removed | 23:51 |
| daskreech | DreadKnight: I'll look at shaman then | 23:54 |
| DreadKnight | daskreech: well, v2 with policykit not ready yet... so only usable on archlinux distro; anyway... | 23:55 |
| DreadKnight | do so :-) | 23:55 |
| DreadKnight | daskreech: official site http://shaman.iskrembilen.com/site/ | 23:56 |
| * daskreech fights off memories of WOW | 23:58 | |
| mustela | i think i'll wait for the official announcement before trying to break my kde again ;) | 23:59 |
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