/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/31/#kubuntu.txt

_jorge1500hi im a men looking for a women00:01
dbgltcharming00:01
fale_jorge1500: I think you are out ;)00:02
fale_jorge1500: in the meaning in the wrong chanel ;)00:02
Taza_jorge1500: Try #robot9000, they're all female there.00:03
_jorge1500im sorry00:04
_jorge1500i dindnt want ofense any body else00:06
_jorge1500i dont know the rules of that channel00:07
andy_anybody experienced with wzdftpd? With clean install, at start refuses to find the cfg file...00:07
ramikubuntu i pretty cool00:12
falerami: :)00:13
yao_ziyua1why doesn't my System Settings have Restricted Drivers?00:14
faleyao_ziyua1: which version of kubuntu do you have?00:15
yao_ziyua1fale: 8.0400:15
ramitoday is my first day using Kubuntu , i am really satisfied , maybe it was alittle bit hard to find out how to get the 3D cub window , but its fantastic00:16
faleyao_ziyua1: you can find it in the menu -> system00:16
falerami: very good :)00:16
falerami: I hope you had a very good experience :)00:17
ramiYES , i have almost all what i need , everything included . word , spreadsheet , PDF reader , drawing and many many things , its just pretty cool that i had everything included and i didnt need to download many programs after00:20
falerami: :)00:21
gregghi00:22
greggi cant find where to add a printer00:22
greggoh kcontrol00:22
falegregg: k -> system settings -> prointer -> add00:24
TazaGrararararargh00:25
TazaI would curse some spirits in ways that are forbidden except this is a family-friendly channel00:26
TazaKubuntu just will not work on my system00:26
faleTaza: ?00:26
TazaKERNEL PANIC KERNEL PANIC OH HI I FROZE00:26
faleTaza: :D00:26
faleTaza: the next time you'll have more lucky ;)00:27
TazaWith the *LiveCD*00:27
fale:o00:27
faleTaza: which pc do you have?00:27
TazaAsus M2N4-SLI mobo, AMD 64 x2 5000+ powesave, 2x1024mb 800mhz kingston stick, GF9600GT, 320gb Seagate Barracuda00:27
faleTaza: are you trying kubuntu 32 or 64?00:28
Taza"KERNEL PANIC APIC TIMER NOT SYNC TRY WITH NOAPIC"00:28
Taza32bit.00:28
TazaI try with noapic and it freezes on rc.local or somewhere there.00:28
TazaI swear a lot in three or four different languages.00:29
faleTaza: have you tryed the 64?00:29
TazaNope, because I used google first.00:29
TazaApparently it's a known problem.00:29
greggkubuntu gutsy doesent have my printer (lexmark x2580).  is it feasable to update the list of printers?00:30
greggis there a package under apt ?00:30
faleTaza: known problem of the 32?00:30
TazaNo, a known problem of the mobo + any ubuntu00:30
faleTaza: I see00:30
falegregg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55811000:31
gregghey thanx fale00:33
falegregg: yw00:33
damien_Hello everyone, I would like to burn a DVD of some anime so that it will work with my DVD player. I tried this before, but my DVD player said that the DVD was unrecognized.00:34
faledamien_: are you using k3b?00:35
damien_Yes00:36
geniidamien_: Most standalone players need dvd to be in VOB format. If the files are in some avi or other such, you need to transcode them to vob.00:36
greggsigh:  that thread just stated there is no solution to installing lexmark on linux.00:36
damien_How do I format them to vob?00:36
geniigregg: If it's any consolation you can buya linux-compatible printer for less than what it would cost to purchase Windows00:36
faledamien_: you have to config k3b to create a video DVD00:37
geniiqdvdauthor is also pretty good00:38
falegregg: even an old printer, probably, will work fine...00:38
damien_fale: How do I configure k3b to do this?00:38
faledamien_: you have to press 'create a DVDvideo'00:38
=== gregg is now known as herashio
damien_Okay thanks, I think I pressed create a data dvd >_>00:39
faledamien_: ;)00:40
damien_It says to insert an empty DVD, I have one in the CD drive however.00:42
geniidamien_: Is it the one you tried to make earlier?00:43
herashioi downloaded a ppd file. from http://www.openprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=pbm2l2030&fromprinter=Lexmark-X2580  what directory does a ppd file belong?00:43
damien_No, its a different DVD00:43
herashioor what is a ppd file00:43
damien_Uh...I fixed that problem, but now there's a new problem :x00:45
faleherashio: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/PPDDocumentation00:45
damien_It says "The project does not contain all necessary VideoDVD files."00:46
damien_Do I need to place them in the folder k3b auto-made, "VIDEO_TS"?00:46
geniiherashio: sudo mkdir /usr/share/ppd/Lexmark                  then sudo cp the file there00:46
faledamien_: I think you have to put in VIDEO_TS the VOB files00:46
geniiherashio: Is it just ppd extension or ppd.gz ?00:47
damien_Oh, how do I convert them again? >_>00:47
geniidamien_: qdvdauthor00:47
damien_Alright thanks/00:47
damien_thanks.*00:47
geniidamien_: np00:47
faledamien_: yw00:47
herashiogenii: just a ppd file.00:48
geniiherashio: Then as I described00:49
herashioi'll copy it to that dir you told me to make00:49
damien_genii: fale: Could one of you give me a walkthrough on how to convert my video files with this? I have no idea how >_>00:50
herashiogenii: is that all thats needed to make my printer function?  how do i add the printer ?00:51
faledamien_: I have never used that program00:52
damien_Ah ok00:52
geniiherashio:  You should go again now to System Settings...Printers ...add one and see if now listed00:52
MetaMorfoziShi all00:52
MetaMorfoziSdoes anybody tried to run virtualbox on kubuntu?00:52
TazaBY PROBABLY BY TRYING TO REMOVE THE KERNEL OR SOMETHING00:53
MetaMorfoziSI'm getting "Not permitted to open the USB device, check usbfs options." when i try to enable an usb device00:53
TazaHAVE YOU CHECKED YOUR CD, MAYBE YOU SHOULD BURN IT AGAIN00:53
faleMetaMorfoziS: some month ago00:53
TazaHADHAHDHAHFDASHNBLABKABLAAKGLA00:53
igalmarinohi when will kde 4.1 beta packages be avaiblable for kubuntu 8.04 ?00:53
faleTaza: are you ok?00:53
MetaMorfoziSfale > and, did you tried usb?00:53
faleigalmarino: in a few days00:53
Tazafale: I've fought FOUR HOURS just trying to get the livecd to boot00:53
faleMetaMorfoziS: it failed00:53
igalmarinothnks00:54
faleTaza: is booting?00:54
Tazafale: No00:54
Tazafale: I just lost my grip on reality a bit.00:54
faleTaza: i'm sorry00:54
Tazafale: "WHY YOU USE CAPS YOU RACIST AGAINST ME"00:54
Taza"TRY YOUR CD BURN AGAIN, MAYBE YOUR CD BROKEN"00:54
Taza#ubuntu is helpful as usual00:54
falethx igalmarino00:55
geniidamien_: Just create a project, add whatever video files in whatever format you have to the project. It uses some other tools undrneath to convert everything to VIDEO_TS and so on.00:55
damien_Oh okay00:55
damien_Thanks00:55
geniidamien_: np00:56
=== snake_ is now known as albuntu
damien_genii: I'm pretty sure I messed up >_>00:58
Tazadamien_: Have you checked your CD?00:58
geniidamien_: ?00:58
TazaMaybe you should try burning it at a lower speed.00:58
TazaPLEASE DON'T USE CAPS.00:58
damien_I clicked "Create DVD" after adding my video files, checked the folder where it was supposed to be placed, and it wasn't there >_>00:59
geniidamien_: Where was the folder supposed to be?00:59
damien_Desktop/New Folder 100:59
geniiTaza: Please follow your own advice and try not to type in uppercase.01:00
Tazagenii: PLEASE DON'T USE CAPS01:00
Tazagenii: Maybe you should try some other kernel options?01:00
geniiTaza: Exactly01:00
damien_Taza: He01:00
Tazagenii: We don't want that attitude here.01:00
damien_Taza: He's not typing in caps.01:00
geniidamien_: I'm pretty sure it's a bot01:00
TazaHelpI'M GOINGINSANE01:01
TazaI'm not a bot.01:01
geniiYes, apparently01:01
TazaI've been trying to get the LIVECD TO WORTK FOR FOUR HOURS AND IT KEEPS ENDING UP EITHER FREEEZING OR KERNEL PANIC01:01
damien_genii: Can you help me out with step by step instructions for this?01:01
herashiogenii: 2030 not there.  you sure that was the correct directory?01:01
TazaAND ALL I GET IS "CHECK YOUR CD" OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN01:01
geniiTaza: Have some patience and stop ranting long enough for someone to address your issue please01:02
Art_VandelayIs Kubuntu going to incorporate the 4.1 beta release of KDE anytime soon?01:02
TazaEvery. Single. Person. Trying. To. Help. Feels. Obliged. To. Try. To. "Help." By. Asking. The. Same. Newbie. Questions. Over. And. Over. Again.01:02
Tazagenii: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/12592501:02
faleArt_Vandelay: only in experimental repository01:02
TazaThis is my issue01:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 125925 in linux-source-2.6.22 "kernel panic on boot in kubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 tribe 2 becouse of Apic" [Medium,Incomplete]01:02
Tazagenii: Is four hours not patience enough?01:02
Art_VandelayI cant find it01:02
Tazagenii: PLEASE TRY BURNING YOUR CD AT A LOWER SPEED. DON'T USE CAPS. YOUR ATTITUDE IS NOT WELCOME HERE.01:02
Art_VandelayHow do i install stuff from experimental?01:03
faleArt_Vandelay: right now is not done01:03
geniiTaza: You only seem to have been ranting here for a few minutes but I feel as if it's been 4 hours :)01:03
Art_Vandelayok i see01:03
damien_genii: Can you help me out with step by step instructions for this?01:03
geniidamien_: I'm a bit spread out so bear with me.01:03
faleArt_Vandelay: as soon as the packages will be ready, there will be an announcement on kubuntu.org01:03
damien_genii: Alright.01:03
Art_Vandelaywhy is it taking so long alot of the other head distros already have them01:04
Art_Vandelayfedora, opensuse01:04
geniiherashio: I'm not entirely sure if something else needs alteration for the printer to appear yet on the list. Maybe try a reboot and then go again to add the printer and see if it now exists there01:05
faleArt_Vandelay: because the packages are released when are done01:05
Art_Vandelay?01:05
geniidamien_: OK, choose first a folder which already exists. PReferably without spaces in the name01:05
damien_genii: Alright, done.01:05
TazaArt_Vandelay: They are paid employees, they are doing this out of the goodness out of their hearts. They are volunteers. They are incompetant hardcore professionals.01:05
faleArt_Vandelay: the devs are people that create the packages are volountieers and work on linux when they have time01:06
TazaArt_Vandelay: Ubuntu devs are lazy asses who couldn't package a goat in bubblewrap if it was dead and therefore the package QA process has to be excessively strict.01:06
Art_VandelayNvm01:06
uwehello there... can somebody help me?01:06
TazaAs we can see from the 7.10 OpenOffice packaging01:06
geniidamien_: Now to add the files, etc. It knows about avi normally. If you have some odd ones like strange codec or so it may not know how to make them to the mpeg kind of vob file.01:06
=== micky_ is now known as frybye
shaffyhttp://pastebin.com/d151a7634    can someone help me to interpret this aptitude output? i was trying to install tor, but it only allows me to install an older version, opposed to the newer one in an added repositories.01:07
faleTaza: is true that a lot of times the packages are done pretty bad01:07
uwemy keyboard is doing wrong01:07
TazaBetter 4.1 to be late than to get a dependency problem like that. Next time we rush them they package gnome as an Amarok dependency and install it by default with gnome-games on Xfce4.01:07
faleTaza: lol01:07
uweI don't know what I should do01:07
frybyeuwe - did you install any new hardware today?01:07
faleuwe: what's the problem?01:08
uweno01:08
uweI believe I pressed a key combination01:08
frybyeI had the wrong keyboard language after installing a new grafic card...01:08
uweby pressing the keypad my mouse cursor is moving01:08
uweI think I made that with alt+f1201:09
Tazafale: My ubuntu personal nitpicks in 7.10: Openoffice.org core packaging with language-support-en and mesa driver ALWAYS crashing in Direct3D emulation with Intel cards.01:09
uwehow can I change thatback?01:09
frybyeuwe - the keypad is there so you can move the cursor or..?01:09
uweyup01:10
uweI just want to write numbers01:10
Tazauwe: MAYBE YOU SHOULD BURN THE CD SLOWER. PLEASE DON'T USE A CAPS ATTITUDE.01:10
uwenot using it as alternative mouse01:10
frybyeI will let sbdy else help you - i dont se where the problem is.. ah ha - the keypad - i though you meant the touchpad.. sorry...01:10
frybyeand hitting the "num" key does not switch it?01:11
uwenope01:11
Tazauwe: It's in accessibility options01:11
uwewhere can I find those options?01:11
albuntuuwe: System Settings01:12
TazaOr at least it should be. BUT MAYBE UBUNTU DEVS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT INTERFACE DESIGN. One way to find out. Take this amazing journey now. One time offer only. The Computer is not responsible for personal damage and / or deaths of your clones and / or poisonings and / or nuclear explosions. The Computer is your friend. Happiness is mandatory.01:12
uweI'm not an retard just a fresh user, don't talk with me like that please01:14
TazaAre you not happy?01:14
TazaHappiness is mandatory.01:14
uwe?01:14
TazaThis could be your day of glory, troubleshooter.01:14
albuntuTaza: are you drunk ?01:15
albuntulol01:15
TazaNo.01:15
TazaI've debugged the livecd for 4 hours01:15
uwelisten01:15
uweI need just help01:15
TazaAfter a week of the hardest time I've ever had.01:15
Tazauwe: Control panel.01:15
Tazauwe: Accessibility settings IF you trust Ubuntu devs.01:16
albuntu!help | uwe01:16
ubottuuwe: I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)01:16
TazaIf you don't it'll magically disappear.01:16
albuntu:P01:16
mike_anyone used kde4 ?01:16
Daisuke_LaptopTaza: if you have such a problem with ubuntu, use something else, your attitude reeks of entitlement.01:16
uweI'm using kubuntu right now01:17
TazaDaisuke_Laptop: Are you not happy? Happiness is mandatory. If you are not happy you will be terminated. The computer is your friend.01:17
Daisuke_Laptop!ops | Taza01:17
ubottuTaza: Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!01:17
TazaDaisuke_Laptop: Also, this is a problem from 6.10.01:17
TazaYAYYY01:17
mike_plasma needs some polish01:17
Daisuke_Laptop6.10 is no longer supported01:18
TazaI get to experience problems, uh, from products that have reached their end of life.01:18
TazaYAYYY.01:18
MezTaza, please stop with the spammy stuff01:18
Daisuke_Laptopso upgrade or quit whining.01:18
Mez!noise | Taza01:18
ubottuFactoid noise not found01:18
Mezgrr01:18
TazaDaisuke_Laptop: I know, I use 8.0401:18
mneptokTaza: i tire of you.01:18
TazaWhich has the SAME bug.01:18
TazaThis bug is THAT old.01:18
mneptokTaza: i am done telling you about the caps.01:18
Tazamneptok: Go suck a cock already.01:18
Taza<301:19
Daisuke_Laptopthis just got interesting01:19
TazaWhat is this, dozenth time?01:19
mike_and i thought that linux users are helpful01:20
bdizzlehello01:20
uweI don't find something like that but thanks for help01:21
Daisuke_Laptopmike_: for the most part, this channel is extremely helpful - that particular user has been on like that all day01:21
bdizzleso I am having problems with the sound on Kubuntu, can someone help?01:21
uweanything01:21
* dthacker goes for coffee01:22
dthackersorry mischan01:22
shaffyhttp://pastebin.com/d151a7634    can someone help me to interpret this aptitude output? i was trying to install tor, but it only allows me to install an older version, opposed to the newer one in an added repositories.01:22
mike_do you know the model of soundcard01:22
bdizzleI know its made by Intel for an Acer computer, but I'm not sure how to check what model number it is01:23
mike_bd- is it a new laptop ?01:23
bdizzlethe sound normally works, up until the computer goes into screensaver mode or is locked. Then it won't work again until I reboot, and its getting really annoying to repeat01:23
Daisuke_Idobdizzle: ah...  that fun one01:24
bdizzleum, I've had it for about 4 months or so01:24
bdizzleI've tried the alsa reset in terminal and it still won't restart01:24
Daisuke_Idobdizzle: close anything that might be using sound, then sudo modprobe -r snd_hda intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel01:24
Daisuke_Idomine does the same thing01:25
bdizzleFATAL: Module snd_hda not found01:25
Daisuke_Idowhoops01:25
Daisuke_Idothat should have been snd_hda_intel01:25
Daisuke_Idomy mistake01:25
mike_with me certain mp3,divx make mplayer freeze the machine01:26
Daisuke_Idowhile still not a *great* solution, it's better than having to reboot just to get sound back01:26
bdizzleso sudo modprobe -r snd_hda_intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel ?01:26
Daisuke_Idobdizzle: that is correct01:26
bdizzleclaims it is in use, even though Amarok and internet is closed01:26
* Daisuke_Ido thinks01:27
Daisuke_Idoyou might have to kill amarok manually (killall amarokapp)01:27
bdizzleamarokapp: no process killed01:28
bdizzlesame for firefox01:28
Daisuke_Idobdizzle: are you using gutsy or hardy?01:28
bdizzlehardy01:28
Daisuke_Idoi don't want to recommend forcing a removal of the module, because 1) i don't know if it'll work, and 2) it's generally not advised...01:29
bdizzleok01:31
bdizzleso what would cause such a problem, or is it just the screensaver?01:31
Daisuke_Idoi'm not entirely sure, i've been trying to figure it out myself01:32
mikeanyone downloaded kde4.101:34
falemike: I have kde4.1, why?01:36
Daisuke_Idoand i am at a complete loss01:37
mikeis it stable ? fale01:37
falemike: yes01:37
mikecan you do apt-get install kde4.0101:37
falemike: no01:38
mikemanual install then01:38
falemike: yes, is the only was, for now01:38
mikethanks for the info, i might dip my toes01:39
falemike: yw01:39
Daisuke_IdoKubuntu packages are in preparation (according to kde.org)01:39
faleDaisuke_Ido: true01:39
mikewell i actually running unbuntu and added kde401:40
Daisuke_Idomike: same thing applies.01:40
bdizzlewhen does KDE 4.1 become publicly available? I've heard some decent things of it, just as soon as it becomes stable01:40
Daisuke_Idoubuntu and kubuntu are the same os, just different desktop environments01:40
Daisuke_Idobdizzle: july 29, in theory01:41
mikestill like gnome,blackbox,etc lol01:41
mikemanaged to install vista fonts , so kde4 looks better01:43
falemike: imho 4.1 have a very good font set01:44
mikeyes i have heard that, last time i installed kde from source , 2hrs later my machine crashed01:46
falemike: when it was?01:46
Daisuke_Idobdizzle: have you closed your mixer?01:46
Daisuke_Ido(kmix)01:46
mikeabout 3 yrs ag01:46
falemike: lol01:46
mikei will wait for the updates01:47
falemike: they will arrive soon ;)01:47
messiahhola01:48
messiahalguien me puede echar una mano por favor?01:48
messiahcreo que es una duda sencilla01:48
mikeyes i manage to screw up the desktop but renaming .kde4 soon cured i01:48
mikeit01:48
falemessiah: /join #ubuntu-es01:48
mikewill any widget work with widgets ? im thinking of osx ones01:51
bdizzlenot yet, lemme try that01:52
messiahcan someone help me please?01:52
=== mr is now known as Guest10492
geniimessiah: If you can state your problem in english, we may assist. If you speak spanish please visit #kubuntu-es01:54
messiahthanks01:58
messiahi am asking in ubuntu-es but it seems difficult problem01:58
messiahwell...01:58
messiahi have next to me an Dell Inspiron 4000 PIII 600 Mhz 128Ram which i formatted yesterday with Windows01:58
messiahtoday i did some partitions because i want to install linux01:59
messiahwell, i tryed with 3 distros and no one runs01:59
messiahtwo of them i used before and runned perfectly01:59
messiahnothing? :(02:02
Guest10492messiah thats not much ram have you tried dsl (damn small linux)?02:02
geniimessiah: The livecd needs at least 192 mb to run in, in order to install. If you have less than that, try using the alternate installer which is text based02:04
messiahwell, the ubuntu 5.04 which i tryed says:02:04
messiahyou must have an Intel x86 ... at least 32Mb and at least 350Mb02:04
messiah32 Ram02:04
messiahindeed i can't see that disks in Windows02:05
messiahin my desktop computer i can see them you know?02:05
falemessiah: have you tried dsl or debian or ubuntu alternative?02:05
messiahi tryed to reboot with: Kubuntu 7,1, ubuntu 5.04, and CD1Debian02:06
messiah(sorry, my english is not so nice)02:06
ab_messiah - I loaded opensuse 10.3 on my childrens computer a p3 with 192 ram :)02:07
ab_and they enjoy02:07
falemessiah: what is the problem that stop your pc to boot correctly?02:07
martijn81messiah: best is to upgrade to 192 mb ram02:08
messiahi tryed to see the disks in windows and i can't, then i turned off the laptop with the disk inside and reboot, and they don't do anything02:08
Guest10492dsl will run on almost anything try it02:08
messiahalthough i put on BIOS only boot with CD/DVD02:08
messiahsorry, what is dsl?02:08
ab_I am new to ubuntu on a dell 1525 so not sure of mem requirements02:09
martijn81192 is the minimum for the live-cd iirc02:09
ab_messiah - damn small linux -- dsl02:09
Guest10492http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/02:10
ab_works great as i use it on a old comp with 96 mb ram02:10
Guest10492the whole system is less than 50Mb02:11
Maskahello, someone can tell me what version of the "Standard C++ library" i have to download please. I have the "libstdc++6" but when i try to install a programme, an error message say (in french), something like that: you have the wrong version of the standard c++ lib, the correct version can not be found... (thank you)02:12
martijn81Maska: have you tried installing build-essential?02:12
Maskaheu nop02:13
martijn81try that first02:13
herashiokoulorpaint doesent have fonts.  yet mspaint on windows does.  why is that.02:13
herashiothe dropdown box is empty02:13
Maskamartijn81: ok i find it, i will try that now, thx02:14
Maskamartijn81: build-essential libqt4-dev, is it ok?02:14
martijn81build-essential should be enough for most programmes afaik02:15
Maskaok, merci :)02:15
herashiothis linux junk never works.02:16
Guest10492heratio windows needs another zombie you should go back to it02:17
BiteyBitefrom where do i change keyboard shortcuts n behaviour of the keyboard?.my kida has done something to it n now caps lock n numlock are behaving exactly opposit to what they should..can any one help plzzzzzzzzzzz?02:17
herashioGuest10492: no linux needs some real programmers so we could use fonts on koulourpaint02:18
* herashio goes to the library to get some work done02:18
herashioat least their operating systems work... hastle free02:18
Guest10492then why are you here?02:19
herashiofor linux help.  but im off to the library now.02:19
ignoherashio: you need to read some about free (as in freedom) software, I suggest you start at www.fsf.org02:20
herashioigno: fuck that.  i just want the shit to work.  yea i get the free software idiom.  YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR02:23
Guest10492can someone kick this guy we don't need that lang. in here02:25
BiteyBitefrom where do i change keyboard shortcuts n behaviour of the keyboard?.my kida has done something to it n now caps lock n numlock are behaving exactly opposit to what they should..can any one help plzzzzzzzzzzz?02:25
jtmoneywill i see a big performance gain if i compile my own kernel? i know what i'm doing, i just need to know whether or not it's worth it02:32
Dr_willisjtmoney,  proberly not too likely.  from what i read.02:33
jtmoneyhmm02:33
Dr_BidoofWhy do GTK apps look horrible in KDE4?02:43
Dr_BidoofIs there a way to fix this?02:44
faleDr_Bidoof: because is still unavailable gtk2toqt402:47
ronniemy new computer has hyperthread tech., so should I install the 64 bit version of kubuntu? I currently have the i386 version on the HD,02:58
shaffycan anyone tell me why the coloring is messed up in all videos that i play, regardless of which player i use (mplayer, vlc)?02:58
Dragnslcrronnie- if you don't have more than 4 GB of memory, stick with 32-bit02:59
ronnie4gb as in the ram? , my HD is 80gb03:00
ronniejust wondering if the 64 bit would max out it's performance, than useing the wrong version ; )03:02
Dr_willisI doubt if it will matter much.03:03
Dr_willisfrom all the  discussion/fights/arguments - I hear it dosent really matter if you go 64 or 32 - for most 'desktop' ussage.03:03
Dr_willisthere are specific cases i hear that you can notice some gains.03:04
edilsonhello03:05
ronniewell I may try it anyhoo, to test it, easy enough to reinstall the kde4 32 bit again, had a few issues with it, maybe I should have installed the more stable one kde3 something or 6.6, whichever ; )  thx for the imput : )03:06
dthacker!ipod03:11
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod03:11
dbglt!rockbox03:12
ubotturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!03:12
dbgltusing hardy:03:14
dbgltPast essay questions:03:14
dbglt2006 -03:14
dbgltOutline Australia’s approach to access regulation. What problems are there with it? Is it succeeding in promoting competition in telecommunications, energy and transport markets?03:14
dbgltPossible essay questions:03:14
dbgltack03:14
dbgltsorry about that!03:14
dbglt  openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 1:2.4.0.1) but 1:2.4.1~rc1-1ubuntu1 is to be installed.03:15
dbglt  openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 1:2.4.0.1) but 1:2.4.1~rc1-1ubuntu1 is to be installed.03:15
dbgltanyone know how to fix that?03:15
dbgltmost recent update/upgrade attempt on hardy03:15
sparky01hello everyone03:25
sparky01anyone using kde4 version?03:28
mr--tyes03:29
sparky01hey Mr T03:29
sparky01Has it improved since initial release?  Does it now have the wifi Network Manager thing?03:30
sparky01Initial release was not as polished as ubuntu or kubuntu with kde 303:31
sparky01but i love it despite the minor issues03:31
sparky01it is more polished and stable now?03:31
mr--tI dont know , i just started using it  a couple weeks ago and i don't use wireless03:31
sparky01mr--t, you have it on a desktop then eh?03:32
mr--tyes03:32
mr--tI tried to put it on my "play" box but that only has 296 ram03:33
mr--tThat had wireless but I wired the whole house with cat 5e , i didn,t like the speed limit with wireless03:34
sparky01mr--t, I don't blame you.  wireless performance is not anywhere near gig E03:36
sparky01better performace on your local home lan is great03:37
ronniehi again : )  any have an opinion on the best version of hardy?, (kde3), (kde4 remix), (6.06 LTS) is there alot of known problems with the unstable kde4 remix?03:39
mr--tI was running ubuntu on my plat box but it kept "losing my sound card and wirless. Now Im playing with freespire on it. my main box has k80403:39
mr--tThe remix looks cool but I couldnt make it work well03:40
ronnieI am useing kde4 remix, only problems i ran into was screen resolution & had to use firefox beta3 to run java, : )03:42
ronnieI could never follow the rule if something ain't broke don't try to fix it! haha, I always think a different version might make it faster or some programs more stable ; )03:46
mr--tyaeh Iv,e broken more than I,ve fixed03:47
goombahi03:47
goombai am sorry but I have a quick question.03:47
mr--t!ask03:47
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)03:47
sparky01ronnie go with kubuntu with Kde 3 if you want rock solid stability. =)  Kde 4 version just isn't there yet03:48
goombaI downloaded the KDE 4 package to update my 8.0.4 Kubuntu.  How do I install it now that I have it downloaded through adept manager?03:48
froduntugood night chanel03:48
sparky01nite!03:49
froduntudoes anybody know how can I do with a one liner to have something like 'find ./ -iname <myfilename> -cp ~/'?03:49
ronniek thx sparky I'll try that one first, don't really care for the 6.06 LTS, cause by then I'll probably be trying the next version ; )03:50
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WesHi, im getting an error message when I try to install kubuntu that reads "Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge (32.247654)"03:51
WesCan anyone help with that?03:52
mr--tGoomba it would have been easier to upgrade, did you download the iso?03:53
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pablo_arôu!!!04:16
ab_new to kubuntu - when i try to open desktop effects it doesn't respond after a few seconds of bouncing curser - any suggestions as to what I should try?04:35
flaccidab_, check logs i guess. this is kde3 desktop effects?04:36
ab_yes04:36
axelbuenas usuarios de linux04:36
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ab_okay will check logs04:36
ab_thanks04:36
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Betus!es05:00
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mjponceGreat!05:04
yotsu_irrsihello05:05
linuxmcehello05:05
mjponcehi!05:05
linuxmceneed some help with my linux mce if someone can05:05
linuxmceripping my hair out over it05:05
linuxmceit is designed to see all of the other computers on the network05:06
linuxmceand auto add them05:06
linuxmcewell its not05:06
linuxmceand i tried adding them manually05:06
linuxmcei cant even connect to the stupid machines05:07
linuxmcegod gotta love the linux/kubuntu community...oh so helpful05:07
root?05:08
linuxmcefinally a response05:09
NickPresta!patience | linuxmce05:09
ubottulinuxmce: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:09
linuxmcei think im a victim of lag...that msg was 15 minutes ago05:09
linuxmce0_005:09
* Surfer16 Visit http://www.FakeMagazineCover.com (upload pic make mag) - http://www.SillyWebcam.com (play with webcam online) - http://www.Is-A-Jerk.com (insulter/anon email) - http://www.ComedySearchEngine.com (fun) - http://www.BodySwitcher.com (put your face on funny body) - http://www.MedChecker.com (health) - http://www.Canuckster.com (Canada eh) - http://www.Nerdful.com (geeks)05:10
linuxmceanyways how do i connect this machine to my other windows based pcs?05:10
ayokihow do i install a program that i have downloaded05:11
ayoki?05:11
linuxmcewhat prog and how did you download it would be my question aoki05:11
linuxmcebecause my guess its a tar file05:11
ayokii downloaded it off the net it is a photoeditor software05:12
linuxmcelemme rephrase05:12
linuxmcefilename with extension05:12
ayokiyes05:13
mr--tlinuxmce I think you need SAMBA to link to windows box05:14
linuxmcethanx mr. t...05:14
ayokiWhats Samba05:14
linuxmcelinux mce should have a samba client already installed05:14
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linuxmcebut its not detecting any of my networks/workgroups05:15
linuxmcei think its a firewall issue but i cant remember how to check to see if a local firewall is enabled or not'05:15
ayokithis software is new to me as i never saw the Kubuntu Version of Linux before05:16
linuxmceyou and me both ayoki05:16
linuxmcebut i have some experience in linux so i might be somewhat helpful..i know fedora decent05:16
linuxmcestill considering what i have seen with this install i can tell you05:17
linuxmcelinux is nowhere near easy when it comes to media center software/configurations05:17
ronnieon my old ibm desktop I use to hold f12 to choose to boot from cd rom, but this one only flashes a dos screen & goes to HD , how can I make it look at the cd first to install?05:18
linuxmcei see one demo on the internet...looks beautiful.  install it and it looks like complete crap. completely different that what it was supposed to be05:18
NickPrestaronnie, you need to change your BIOS settings to boot from CD rom first05:18
ayokii am just using linux overall as i use to use windows and know my head hurts just figuring out this software05:18
NickPresta!samba | ayoki05:18
ubottuayoki: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.05:18
linuxmceronnie, try f1, del, f10 something to get a bios scrreen so you can change it05:19
ronnieoh ok but how can I get to bios, ok ill try that thx so much ; )05:19
NickPrestaronnie, every setup is different. Consult your motherboard manual or try various keys (F10, F12, Delete, etc)05:19
linuxmcehe is offline nick05:20
linuxmce:P05:20
NickPrestaah, missed that05:20
linuxmcewell this still doesnt help me05:20
linuxmcei guess linuxmce is a pile of crap and cant talk to other computers on the network05:20
NickPrestalinuxmce?05:20
linuxmcemultimedia center edition05:21
linuxmcethere is a wiki on it05:21
linuxmcei have checked out all the stuff on media centers windows/linux/everything05:21
NickPrestaI know what MCE is :). I would probably ask in their forums. They can help you, specifically05:21
linuxmceand linux has the most appetizing but the most pain in the ass for setup05:21
ayokii have no idea what that thing tellin me to do with samba and i really don't know05:22
linuxmcewell i got on here for some help to see if i can disable a possible local firewall05:22
linuxmcesamba is so linux machines can talk to windows machines05:22
mr--tayoki you don't need samba05:22
ekHrm. Anyone have a link for choppy sound?05:22
linuxmcei dont ek sorry05:23
ekSeems my new sound card is supported but Amarok and Kaffeine are super choppy.05:23
ekMPlayer works fine though. Lol.05:23
ekStrange.05:23
NickPrestaayoki, you downloaded software off the net? Which software?05:23
mr--tyou need to tell us what type of file youare trying to install05:23
ayokiMagic Photo Editor05:23
linuxmcenick would you know how to tell if there is a local software firewall enabled?05:23
ayokinot in linux i wouldn't05:24
linuxmcei already asked what filename and file extension05:24
linuxmcemy guess tar or bzip205:24
NickPrestalinuxmce, I don't think there is any sort of firewall enabled by default. It wouldn't cause any sort of local problems anyways.05:24
NickPrestaayoki, is MGE available for Linux?05:24
linuxmcewell its not a local problem...im trying to detect my workgroups on the network.  i cant detect them05:25
mr--tayoki you need to be specific  (filename). extension05:25
NickPrestait looks as if Magic Photo Editor isn't available for Linux (http://www.download.com/Magic-Photo-Editor/3000-2192_4-10522282.html)05:25
ayokii don't know about MPG but i know it can use JPG05:26
linuxmcewow that sux05:26
NickPrestaayoki, you can use Wine to run Windows applications if you need to (they may not work 100% or at all though)05:26
ayokiits the only software that does what i want05:26
NickPresta!wine > ayoki05:26
linuxmceayoki your program will not work on linux without windows xp emulation.05:26
ayokino magic05:27
linuxmceno magic >_<05:27
linuxmceso what steps do i need to take to start browsing my windows xp network shares?05:27
ayokiwhat other photo software is there that does what magic does that works with linux05:27
linuxmcebecause i can ping the ip addresses just fine05:28
mr--tayoki linux has over 30,000 programs in the repos05:28
linuxmcegimp?05:28
linuxmcewould gimp work for photo editing?05:29
NickPrestaayoki, I don't know of any programs that will automatically blend images into one another but there are several photo editing applications available05:29
linuxmcei guess for something like that google is a great friend05:29
linuxmceto find out05:29
linuxmceand i was looking up stuff and gave up05:30
linuxmcethis linux mce is crap.  im hoping someone would help me get this thing sharing files on my local lan05:31
linuxmcei need to get my files >_<05:31
ed__hello, can anyone offer help with dvd ripping?05:31
linuxmceor its back to windows xp for me05:31
mr--tlinuxmce do you have to enable the linux box in the ads?05:31
linuxmcehow do i activat the linux box in AD?05:32
mr--tthe linux box would have to be enabled to share files in the xp, and the xp will have to have sharing enabled05:33
linuxmcexp has filing sharing enabled05:33
linuxmceand by defuault this linuxmce has fileshare enabled05:33
mr--tsounds like the linux box lacks permissions05:33
linuxmceits in a completely different workgroup05:34
linuxmcebut doesnt scan the default windows workgroup05:34
Dr_willisI often find it easier to just install ssh, and use winscp to get files back/forth btweeen windows and linux box's05:34
linuxmcehmm ssh is installed but i dont like copying lists of files over to the local computer05:35
linuxmcei would rather stream from my 1tb fileserver05:35
linuxmcethen have to copy back and forth05:35
Dr_willisit all depends on what your needs are i guess.05:35
linuxmcewell this local computer has 80gb05:36
Dr_willisthere are upnp servers for linux also.05:36
Dr_willisplaying files from a samba share isent really 'streaming' In My definition. :)05:36
linuxmceuniversal plug and play...what do you mean?05:36
linuxmceyeah but you get what i mean05:36
Dr_willis!upnp05:36
ubottuFactoid upnp not found05:36
Dr_willisupnp is a service/server used to stream video/audio files to 'devices'05:37
Dr_willis!find upnp05:37
ubottuFound: gupnp-tools, libgupnp-1.0-0, libgupnp-1.0-dbg, libgupnp-1.0-dev, libgupnp-doc (and 6 others)05:37
Dr_willisand yes. its badly named.05:37
linuxmcei would rather access the data fom the fileserver than to copy stuff over05:37
faleDr_willis: afaik you can stream other things out of audio and video05:37
Dr_willisUPnp = the server stream thing.05:37
linuxmcewhich i remember seeing those tools installed when installing linuxmce05:38
Dr_willisfale,  i cant even imageine what else one can stream. :)05:38
linuxmcei am just very frustrated with this05:38
Dr_willisif the windows box is accessing a linxu machine. Samba shares are proberly the way to go. But samba has a lot of options/confioguratiioons05:38
linuxmcebecause on the video demo linuxmce looked so great05:38
linuxmceand i have it installed now and looks completely different than the demo05:39
Dr_willisSamba is one of thost things  that ya some times just have to read up on and learn.05:39
faleDr_willis: mmm... ktorrent have upnp...05:39
linuxmcei feel mislead and angry05:39
Dr_willislinuxmce,  demand your money back?05:39
linuxmceeven bill wouldnt have gone this far of a change05:39
linuxmcewell i want my time back05:40
Dr_willisLinuxmce - i recall was a VERY complex setup. that was not designed for the total beginner.  more of a power user tool/disrto.05:40
linuxmcei didnt think i was that big of a noob05:40
linuxmcei mean i can navigate through the menus and such just fine05:40
Dr_willisMythbuntu is a simpiler thing.  i started to try linxumce. and decided it did 100xmore then what i needed05:40
linuxmcejust having trouble with networking05:40
linuxmcebecause even with the kubuntu tool it says my network card is not passing its test'05:41
linuxmceyet you see me on irc chatting huh?05:41
Dr_willisthere are books written on samba. :) in the samba-doc package even. I just have a simple lan, makes it easy to get samba going.05:41
linuxmcethats what im getting at05:41
Dr_willistheres a bug in the kde network manager stuff that does that  linuxmce05:41
linuxmcei dont think its samba05:41
Dr_willistry browsing from konqueror.05:41
linuxmcealready tried that05:41
Dr_willisIve seen people in here that could irc, but not browsae due to that network manager bug.05:42
linuxmcethere must be a reason why i cant locate any other workgroups05:42
linuxmcewith this POS linux distro05:42
linuxmcei can browse html05:43
linuxmcewhat is this network manager bug you speak of?05:43
Dr_willisstart wiht the basics I guess. be sure  the samba package is isntalled. be sure your samba config has the right workgroup.05:43
holycowhi guys05:43
linuxmcealright05:43
holycowany rumours to 4.1 beta comming to repos?05:44
Dr_williskdes default network manager tool. Ive never needed to mess with other then to check 'use dhcp'  (actually thats the default)05:44
linuxmcealright05:44
linuxmce?05:45
faleholycow: it will, soon05:45
linuxmceis there a gui for samba or am i going to have to green screen it?05:45
holycowfale: wicked!!!!!05:45
holycowdanke05:45
linuxmcewwwith fedora i knew exactly where it was05:45
linuxmcekubuntu looks so foreign :(05:46
holycoweverything new is foreign05:46
linuxmceand this one feels stripped05:46
holycowyou were using gnome05:46
holycowwhy don't you just install whatever tool fedora had and run it?05:46
holycowi'm don't get the gripe05:46
linuxmcebecause i dont remember how05:46
linuxmce:P05:46
faleholycow: there are not official dates ;)05:46
holycowdude, seriously05:47
holycowstop drinking and ircing05:47
holycow>_<05:47
holycowfale: oh no problemo at all, i'm just curious05:47
linuxmcestop bashing on people with questions05:47
faleholycow: is normal :D05:47
holycowfale: i'm realy loving what i'm seeing in kde 4.0.3 and i can't believe how well some things work05:47
holycowfor example the effects stuff .. thats just "done right' (tm)05:47
linuxmcedr. willis you there?05:48
Dr_willisi always just edit the samba config file.05:48
holycowso i just can't wait to see kde 4.1 and help out test05:48
faleholycow: the reality is that kde rulez05:48
Dr_willisthat way its the same on every disrto basicially :)05:48
faleholycow: and kde4 even more05:48
linuxmceok  refresh my memory how i go about doing that05:48
holycowheh *nod*05:48
linuxmceif you could dr.05:48
Dr_willissudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf05:48
Dr_willisof course be sure you have the samba package/service installed with the package manager tools05:49
Dr_willis!info samba-doc05:49
ubottusamba-doc (source: samba): Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 6843 kB, installed size 14788 kB05:49
linuxmcemy guess is that the manager tools are not05:51
linuxmcebecause this all in one setup doesnt have much in the way of debugging and troubleshooting05:51
holycowuh what?05:52
holycowyou only have the worlds largest repository of software on hand05:52
ronniejust popped back in to thank-you sooo much, who told me how to get it to boot from cd first, it was f10 ; )  also...05:52
holycowhow can you not have everything?05:52
holycoweverything in rh is in the repos05:52
linuxmceah crap cant remember how to save in vi05:53
holycowubuntu/debian are the largest distributions in terms of free software packaged up05:53
holycow:w!05:53
faleholycow: btw I compile 4.1 quite as every night ;)05:53
holycowfale: heh!05:53
holycowman you are dedicated :)05:53
faleholycow: I'm a dev ;)05:53
linuxmcethats right i have to su05:53
holycowfale: is it as easy as ./configure && make && make install or?05:54
holycowoh heh well thats diff05:54
faleholycow: script that runs during the night ;)05:54
holycowif you are a dev on kde4/kdeanything my hats off to you05:54
holycowi TRULLY love what kde4 is bringing05:54
falelol05:54
fale:)05:54
faleme too05:54
holycowfale about 4 years ago i was thinking about gnome and what i could do to improve it05:54
ronnieit says locked  cpu freq & 133mhz bus, is there a way to unlock it?, or is that overclocking & just better leave it alone?05:54
holycowbelieve it or not, all of that is in kde405:54
holycowINCLUDING the patch to remove icons from the desktop :)05:55
holycowi didn't envision plasma tho, that alone is brilliant and will let me setup workflows for our staff as i need to05:55
holycowtrully my hats off to all of you05:55
faleholycow: in effect kde4 is awesome05:56
holycowyeah05:56
holycowthe thing you guys got really right is the architecture05:56
holycowfor example, doing the effects thing as part of kwin is superb05:56
faleholycow: I arrived after the main architecture ;)05:56
mr--tronnie the message is probably just telling you that your cpu can't be throttled05:56
faleholycow: but I completle agree05:57
holycowfale: *nod* understood05:57
ronnieok thx mrt05:57
ronnieoh just one thing, I can now see when i want the temperature of different areas, what is considered too hot & a fan should be added?05:59
mr--twhat cpu06:00
ronnieyes, what cpu temp is cool or running good, I do think my power supply is a bit hot06:01
mr--tnooo  I mean cpu brand and type06:01
ronnieits a pentium4 (R) 2.4 ghz06:02
linuxmcehow do i go about editing the smb.conf when the file is locked06:02
linuxmce>_<06:02
linuxmce*sigh*06:03
linuxmcei give up kubuntu will never work on this network.06:04
mr--t64 -78 degrees c.06:04
mr--tthats too hot06:04
ronniehmm ok mine said 49 c guess is good considering its been on for 4 or 5 hrs06:05
mr--tThe power supply will not overheat if it is rated for the wattage you are using06:05
mr--ttemp ratings are higher on laptops06:06
Dr_willisgive up after 10 min? Oh well.  I would suggest you try out mythbuntu, it can do video file shareing/playing and other things.06:06
linuxmceim just taking a break06:06
linuxmcei say alot of things in desperation and anger06:06
linuxmcei was looking into mythbunu.  but i think if i have to replace its knoppmyth06:07
frogonwheelslinuxmce: you really involved with linuxmce?06:07
linuxmcei am having a headache with it now06:07
Dr_willisIve used knoppmyth also. I liked mythbuntu better06:07
frogonwheelsyeah?06:07
Dr_willisKnoppmyth was neat in some ways.06:07
ronnieit's a 300 watt, PS, I have a 400 watt I could install but didn't think I could connect it to the front power button, cause it has a switch on it : (06:07
frogonwheelsI don't want to hear that :)  I've got a box ordered to be shipped with linuxmce06:08
linuxmcelol06:08
linuxmcewell good luck getting that box to talk to other windows pcs06:08
vosslerHey everyone, I'm having a problem with my wireless card, it's found and when I was running from a live CD it gave me the option of installing firmware, I did so and the wireless card worked but now that I have fully installed Kubuntu it won't let me get the firmware to run my wireless card.06:08
frogonwheelslinuxmce: Oh?  You mean for media sharing?06:08
jussi01!mce06:09
ubottuFactoid mce not found06:09
jussi01!mint06:09
ubottuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate06:09
linuxmceyes for media sharing and streaming06:09
mr--tronnie you would need to add up the draw of watts from all the devices and the motherboard to tell if 300 watt would be enough06:09
frogonwheelslinuxmce: Not really a problem seing as I won't have windoze box with media on it around anyway06:09
ekHrm. Strange thing is I seem, of course, to be the only person in the history of any forums with this issue.06:10
ekHow convenient. Lol.06:10
vosslerDoes anyone know where I can find the firmware to install so I can use my wireless card?06:10
linuxmcewell still good luck, manual setting things is non existant06:10
linuxmceits supposed to auto-discover everythng and all the whitepaper tells you is how to click on it after it autodiscovers things06:10
Leeuwtest06:11
ronnieI'm sure I would need the extra 100W, maybe for the video card (says minimum of 250) it's a geforce 5500 256 mb fx with zotac tecnology what ever da hell that means haha06:11
mr--tronnie then the answer could be yes your power supply is too hot and will have a short life06:13
vosslerDoes anyone know where I can find the firmware for my Bocom wireless driver? I was able to install it on the live CD but now that I fully installed Kubuntu it won't auto find the firmware.06:14
ekBah. This is just going to piss me off to no end.06:14
jussi01ek: whats the problem?06:14
Dr_willisvossler,  could boot the live cd and see what package it grabbed.. then grab it again?  save it to a thumbdrive..06:14
ronnieok thx mr--t, I may have to install it : )06:15
Dr_willis!find b4306:15
ubottuFound: b43-fwcutter06:15
jussi01!bcm43xx | vossler06:15
ubottuvossler: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx06:15
vosslerCan I do that now that I have it fully installed?06:15
vosslerOh, that's that one I think!06:15
Dr_willisvossler,  it may want the b43-fwcutter package. thats common for a lot of the broadcom cards06:15
vosslerThat's the one.06:15
vossler;)06:15
Dr_willissudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter06:15
ronnieI'll just won't be able to use the front power to turn it on no biggie : )06:16
ekjussi01: On-board sound was _TERRIBLE_ so I went out and bought a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy card.06:17
vosslerI'm at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but can't seem to find the Kubuntu installation, do I just use the Ubuntu eqivalent?06:17
ekjussi01: This card _DOES_ work, it's just extremely choppy if I use anything besides mplayer.06:17
ekMPlayer is still choppy, but very rarely.06:18
jussi01ek: curious, I have an audigy 2 and its great06:18
ekAmarok, Kaffeine, XMMS (Audacious), etc... are all too choppy to even understand what's playing.06:18
ekjussi01: Hrm. Very strange.06:18
jussi01ek: have you set it as defauklt?06:18
ekjussi01: Absolutely.06:18
ekjussi01: However, I get erros at start about 'cpu overload'.06:19
vosslerDr_willis: I suppose I download the Ubuntu version of the software that is the same as my Kubuntu version?06:19
ekjussi01: Until I click 'ok', nothing will work.06:19
jussi01hrm06:19
Dr_willisvossler,  kubuntu andubuntu use the same core.  its just the desktop and gui tools that differ06:19
ekjussi01: Yeah. Been searching forums for hours with no luck.06:20
vosslerOkay, I read a little and it says it's included.06:20
ekjussi01: You have on-board sound as well?06:20
jussi01ek: yes06:20
jussi01a via chipset06:20
jussi01crimsun: you about?06:21
jussi01ek: which kernel you running?06:21
ekjussi01: Same chipset here. It turns out to be Intel though. Some Hi-Def on-board.06:22
mr--tvossler you can still install it and if it already ther  it won't hurt anything06:22
jussi01ek: ahhhh yeah, there are intel hda issues06:22
ekjussi01: 2.6.24-1706:22
jussi01!intelhda06:22
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto06:22
ekjussi01: Yeah. I have a different card now though.06:23
vosslermt--t: I ran sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter in the Konsole and it did a bunch of stuff but the card isn't working.06:23
jussi01dont know if thats still an issue in hardy though06:23
ekjussi01: Hrm.06:23
ekjussi01: Audigy SE is my currect card.06:23
ekLike I said, it does work.06:23
ekSeems nearly 100% with MPlayer.06:24
ekBut, Amarok and such are terrible.06:24
hannes__ek: run alsamixer and check if the main volume is up06:24
ekLike, ridiculously terrible.06:24
ekhannes__: Volume is fine.06:24
ekListening to music now.06:24
hannes__oh. hehe06:24
mr--tthats just the firmware cutter you still need the firmware06:24
ekBut, it skips every now and then with MPlayer.06:24
hellhoundCan someone help me?  I had installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 which already had compiz fusion.  I decided to uninstall compiz-fusion and now for some reason KDE4 no longer recongizes my keyboard but the LED lights on the keyboard do respond to caps lock and num lock and my mouse works fine as well.   In KDE 3 my keyboard DOES work06:24
ekWith anything else, its skips so much it sounds like a cell phone breaking up.06:25
ekProbably 2-3 skips per second.06:25
vosslerOh, I'm at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy but can't find where I download the firmware.06:25
ekMPlayer gets about 1 skip per minute.06:25
ekMaybe 2.06:25
mr--tvossler http://www.broadcom.com/support/06:26
mr--tthats where I got mine06:26
ekjussi01: Maybe I should see if I can get my HDA card working properly. If so, I'll just return this Sound Blaster.06:26
mr--tnite all06:27
vosslerSee you.06:27
ekjussi01: Yeah. Nevermind. Been through that page. All the alsa stuff works with Hardy.06:29
ekJust sounded terrible.06:29
ekLike, _TERRIBLE_.06:30
ekI suppose I can try again.06:30
ekAlsa mixer can do terrible things to cards sometimes.06:31
ekBut, I do remember this on-board sound sounding like shit before.06:31
ekErm... Sorry.06:31
ekI meant 'poop'.06:31
vosslerCan anyone help me with find the bcm43xx driver? Apparently it's included in this version of Kubuntu but can't find it.06:32
simula_i'm trying to isolate applications from the os.  is there a way to force applications to install to a particular directory and not dirty /etc and other such directories with their files?06:32
simula_to force apps to apt-get install that is06:33
Dr_willissimula_,  when one compiles them possibally.. but not with the apt system that i know of.06:33
simula_thanks dr_willis06:33
Dr_willisvossler,  its was not included on the disks that i noticed.  I had to download it06:34
Dr_willisvossler,  well it MIGHT be included..but it has to be installed to run the scripts that actually download the firmware..06:34
vosslerJust a second.06:34
vosslerThe bcm43xx driver (via manual install) is now considered to be deprecated as it is now included in Ubuntu 8.04 and all Linux kernel versions 2.6.24 and later.06:35
vosslerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy06:35
Dr_willissudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter06:36
Dr_willisb43 is the newer name for the bcm drivers..06:36
vosslerOkay, I'll give it a try.06:36
mudgemy golly: "\44"  is octal!06:36
Dr_willisthe old name was bcmXomthing....06:36
mudgedid you know it was octal?06:36
vosslerDr_willis: It says it's at it's newest version.06:37
vosslerWait a minute, I think it's working.06:37
Dr_willisthen its isntalled.... :)06:37
Dr_willisheh heh...06:37
mudgethanks for the people that told me that "\number here"  is octal06:40
vosslerYes, it's working!06:41
vosslerThank you ;)06:41
vosslerI'm a struggler at these things :P06:41
titanix88hi all :)06:41
ekjussi01: Haha. Now that I've rebooted, the on-board sounds fine.06:43
theFATMANfor some reason when i am in firefox, i close a tab, my system randomly reboots, whats going on, and how do i fix it?06:43
ekI'll give it a few days and it'll sound terrible again.06:43
vossler_Dr_willis are you still there?06:52
iltechie\o in gnome I had dictionary applet ?where do I find quick dictionary in K ?06:52
theFATMANfor some reason when i am in firefox, i close a tab, my system randomly reboots, whats going on, and how do i fix it?06:53
ekjussi01: Hrm. Few adjustments to the mixer and it sounds perfect...06:53
ekjussi01: I guess I'll just ride this out until I find out what goes b0rk3d.06:53
iltechietheFATMAN: , maybe you should check your memory you do tha from boot disk, there is a check mmemory option06:54
ekjussi01: Thanks for the attempt at help though. Although, I'm not sure what I could possibly report about the other card.06:54
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theFATMANiltechie: i tried that, and i got -0- errors, it still happens06:55
iltechieAh try to   install latest MozillaFirefox06:55
Darrickhi06:56
theFATMANiltechie: u mean 3 beta 5?06:56
iltechieno I mean latest not beta06:56
theFATMANiltechie: thats what i am running06:56
theFATMANiltechie: oh, lol06:56
vossler_Does anyone know why the network settings says my wireless card is working and my Ethernet Network Device is disabled yet when I unplug the ethernet cord the I'm no longer connected to the internet?06:56
iltechiehow much can one count on beta theFATMAN anyway?06:57
Darrickhi im havin problems, i have burnt the iso to a dvd and it wont boot no matter what i try... can anyone suggest thing a noob may have missed06:57
theFATMANiltechie: i also installed kubuntu-desktop in hardy ubuntu, could that have anything to do w/ it?06:57
iltechiemybe06:57
theFATMANiltechie: but using gdm06:57
Dr_willisvossler_,  Huh?06:59
Dr_willisvossler_,  i cant ev4en get my wireless working.. :) so good luck07:00
Darrickcan anyone suggest anything07:00
frybyewhen trying to copy bookmarks.html from one pc to the other I get the following fault-report on second pc http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/19607:01
Dr_willisDarrick,  you did burn the DVD iso image to a dvd disk? or did you burn the cd iso image to a dvd disk?07:01
uwehello07:01
Dr_willisDarrick,  also what program did you use to burn... look on the disk..what files are on it.07:02
frybyeit is in German - sorry but there is nobody in the #kubuntu-de responding just now...07:02
Darricki burned the file in the iso to the dvd its not the image on the dvd but the files07:02
uweI have a problem with my keypad.... I can't write any numbers with it since a short time07:02
Dr_willisDarrick,  the file in the iso?07:02
theFATMANDarrick: that happens when u copy to disc as opposed to burning to disc07:03
frybyeuwe - and hitting the "num" key does not activate it?07:03
Darricki have 9 folders on the dvd and 5 files plus the autorun07:03
dragandeste bratjo :D07:03
uwenope07:03
uweeven hitting the num key07:04
theFATMANDarrick: that happens when u copy to disc as opposed to burning to disc07:04
frybyeuwe - there is a way to do it of course.. but i have forgotten where/how - hope somebody else will jump in here?07:05
Dr_willisDarrick,  and what tools/os did you use to  do the  copying?07:05
uweawwww07:05
Dr_willisDarrick,  if you used winrar, or some other tools to  access the files IN the .iso file, then burn those files to cd.. it wont be bootable07:05
uweI'M sure I have to press a key compbination or writting something in the terminal07:05
uweI need this function T___T07:07
theFATMANDarrick: the only solution is to burn it to another disc, but make sure you burn the image, don't just copy, and you'll be good07:07
Darrickso the image should be on the disk or the files07:07
Dr_willisuse a program like 'burn at once' (free for windows) and it willknow what to do.  or neros 'burn image' feature.  you should see files correct.. but the boot files a4re special07:08
theFATMANDarrick: just use a burning software to burn the image to disc, such as k3b07:08
Dr_willisi missed what OS/tool he was using.07:08
theFATMANme too, lol07:08
Darrickvista...07:08
uwesadly there noboody which knows how to solve the problem... I'm going to write into a forum and if there's still nobody which knows how to solve it, I'll go back to windows D:07:09
theFATMANDarrick: oh, then thats why, yeah get burn at once, and you'll be golden07:09
uwebye07:09
Dr_willisI would try a different keyboard.. but uwe proberly dident want to hear that.07:09
theFATMANlol07:10
Dr_willisI get a real attitude when people use the 'help me or ELSE' attitude..07:10
vosslerI'm starting to get frustrated trying to set up my wireless internet, everytime I try to connect wirelessly it doesn't work yet at network settings it says it's enabled, if I try and change and setting to make it work, the internet shuts off!07:10
theFATMANDr_willis:  for some reason when i am in firefox, i close a tab, my system randomly reboots, whats going on, and how do i fix it?07:11
Dr_willistheFATMAN,  nope. No idea. try a new user. see if it also affexts them.. if a NEW user is not affected - that sounds like it may be a firefox extension07:12
Dr_willisso i guess i DID have an idea. :)07:12
theFATMANlol07:12
Dr_willis system rebooting = sounds like a video driver issue.07:12
Dr_willissomthing BIG has to be going on to reboot the ssytem07:12
vosslerI got the wireless card enabled (or so it says) but for some reason I can't find my wireless internet, I'm starting to get tired.07:13
theFATMANok, brb07:13
Dr_willisi alwyas just type in the ssid and pass. i dont let it scan. :)07:13
vosslerYou can let it scan for wireless?07:14
Dr_willisof course I cant get my wireless working either..07:14
Dr_willistheres should be a scan button/feature somewhere07:14
vosslerI'm in network settings.07:14
Dr_willisi dont have the gui memmorzed. :)  and im not on kubuntu at the moment.07:14
vosslerThis thing is brutal, I mostly use Windows so I'm not used to having to do things manually ;(07:15
Dr_willisYou dont want to get me started on the disaster windows wirless has been for me either... :)07:15
Dr_willisTheres a VERY good reason - i ran wires all throughout my house.07:15
vosslerWow, that is bad.07:16
vosslerI keep trying to start with Linux but I ALWAYS run into wireless problems, and I come crawling back to Windows lol07:16
Dr_willisblame the wireless makers.07:17
Ayabarawhat kind of window placement do you use? I see mine is set to cascade by default07:17
Ayabarasmart sounds good..07:17
vosslerYeah, this thing is a struggler, I've tried this like ten times but if I can't get the wireless internet working, I can't really use it.07:18
Dr_willisi got wireless working with hardy.. once.. :) then i had to reset the router.. and havent gotten it working since07:18
federicoin spanish where?07:19
vosslerlol07:19
federicoi dont speak english very well07:19
Dr_willisbroadcom - is very much hated by many a linux-user. :)07:19
vosslerKubuntu looks cool but it looks like it's Windows again :/07:19
federicoin spanish where07:19
Ayabara!es07:19
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.07:19
federicothanks07:20
vosslerlol "many a linux user" ;)07:20
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Dr_willismany a windows user hate them also07:20
Ayabarafederico: no problemo :)07:20
vosslerI tried Puppy, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and DSL, none of which have worked, but I may try it again, it may be that my configuration is wrong.07:21
Dr_willisdsl and puppy are using the older wireless drivers07:21
Dr_willisif you can constantly get the wireless working with the live cd.. well thats a good sign.07:21
vosslerSo I'll stuggle against the ever raging tides of trying to set up my wireless card :P07:21
master_who are you?07:22
vosslerDSL is mangled looking to me ;)07:22
master_but, who are you?07:22
Dr_willis"Hello, I'm the Doctor"07:22
vosslerUnder 50MB, it can't really be pretty.07:22
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Dr_willisvossler,  how pretty do you want fluxbox to be...07:23
Dr_willispuppy is under 100 :) well it can be..07:23
vosslerFluxbox?07:23
master_what's your name?07:23
Dr_willisvossler,  time to explore linux.07:23
Dr_willis!info fluxbox07:23
ubottufluxbox (source: fluxbox): Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-3 (hardy), package size 938 kB, installed size 3756 kB07:23
vosslerIf I can't get my wireless to work I don't really want to use linux07:23
Dr_willisvossler,  oh the humanity of it all... cant get wirless to work.. *sob* :)07:24
master_oooooooooo07:24
master_well07:24
master_let me see07:24
Dr_willisvossler,   and untill you learn some linux - you cant seemt o get wireless to work? :) catch-2207:24
vosslerIt says that the wireless card is enabled, that's good.07:24
master_who are you?07:24
Dr_willisvossler,  yea. Sort of weird that bit is.07:24
Dr_willisvossler,  puppy would try to get my wireless working.. and turn OFF the wireless card.. then try to scan.07:25
master_ok07:25
master_bye07:25
vosslerThat leads me to believe my configuration is wrong, but evertime I change something the internet shuts off ><07:25
Dr_willismaster_,  come again if you have a kubuntu question07:25
master_thanks, Dr willis07:26
master_but, rigth now i don't have any question!!07:27
master_thanks again07:28
master_we are in contac!!07:28
master_bye07:28
desmondhey all07:56
BiteyBitewhat codecs i need to install in kubuntu 8.04 kde3 version to play streamin real n windows audio/vidio media from net?08:06
ubuntuhi08:06
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smoxhi08:06
smoxdoes someone know how to change the keyboard language?08:06
smoxfrom us to de and vice versa?08:07
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smoxin the shell i mean, not graphical settings08:07
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smoxis it possible to change the keyboard layout in the shell?08:09
Ayabaraanyone using smplayer?08:10
Dr_willissmplayer - had 'issues' last few times i tried to use it.08:12
Dr_willisi stick with gmplayer08:12
Darricksmox.. what os?08:13
BiteyBite!multimedia08:13
ubottuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications08:13
AyabaraDr_willis: what issues? what annoys me is that it looks out of place on my otherwise beautiful kde desktop :)08:15
Dr_willisi play my videos fullscreen.... so the looks dont matter.08:16
AyabaraDr_willis: is gmplayer a gui on top of mplayer as well?08:16
Ayabarahehe08:16
Dr_willisits only under hardy. that i just GOT smplayer to actually run.08:16
Dr_willisgmplayer is a better developed front end.08:17
Dr_willissmplayer - tried to do too much last i tried it.08:17
JaZmAn____i think kaffenine is good08:17
navetzcan someone help me debug my md5, in my terminal I do echo "test" -n | md5   and I get a certain value, but when I do md5 through a php script I don't get that same md508:17
iltechiepulseaudio is a new interface to alsa, is ti default08:20
JaZmAn____how do i install packages that i have installe don my hard drive08:20
AyabaraDr_willis: ok. smplayer has been good for me so far.08:20
JaZmAn____as im installing now but its downloading08:21
JaZmAn____used sudo apt08:21
bpeghi.... how i can install lamp?08:23
Dr_willis!lamp08:24
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:24
bpegthx08:24
Dr_willisJaZmAn____,   How do you install packages, that have allready been installed?   - will you clarify that a bit...08:24
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graxaim-_-08:28
JaZmAn____well i have downloaded the tar file extract it then sudo apt get install08:28
JaZmAn____if others are i use add remove08:28
JaZmAn____but i do like kde better gnome08:32
JaZmAn____so used to xp so this is a small learning curve08:32
bpegjoin #ubuntu-ru08:33
JaZmAn____dont forget the / bpeg08:33
bpegthx )08:33
JaZmAn____anothe question how easy is it to print in my cds like i do in windows08:35
JaZmAn____on08:35
Daisuke_Idoit's a ghost!08:37
eagles05where is the sources list found08:40
eagles05!sources08:40
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories08:40
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qba___hi08:40
qba___any one can help me with dm raid?08:41
JaZmAn____yo08:41
JaZmAn____no idea08:41
JaZmAn____others maw08:41
JaZmAn____may08:41
JaZmAn____im a noob08:41
qba___when i use dmraid -ay i get No raid sets08:41
qba___ERROR: pdc: wrong # of devices in RAID set "pdc_dfbbccdahc" [1/2] on /dev/sda08:41
qba___ERROR: removing inconsistent RAID set "pdc_dfbbccdahc"08:41
qba___No RAID sets08:41
Daisuke_Idoi find that as the DM for a raid i like to make sure i have all of my dungeon maps ready to give the party an idea of where to start08:41
qba___but when i do dmraid -b i can see both raid drives;]08:42
eagles0513875JaZmAn____: youll love my site which is still a major construction but right now if you sign up  ull get access to links as well as to the forum08:42
BiteyBitehow do i get win32 codecs?08:42
eagles0513875JaZmAn____: http://howtokubuntu.x10hosting.com08:42
eagles0513875!win32 | BiteyBite08:42
ubottuFactoid win32 not found08:42
eagles0513875!win32codecs | BiteyBite08:42
ubottuBiteyBite: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org08:42
JaZmAn____bitey add remove08:43
eagles0513875JaZmAn____: hope u like what u see on my site08:43
eagles0513875*you08:43
JaZmAn____just use some the restricted type of stuff like g streamer08:44
Ayabaracan I adjust the step size in the volume controls in kde?08:45
JaZmAn____on your site eagles but i dont always join uo to sites with limeted info08:47
graxaimanyone knows a working repository for Enlightenment 0.17?08:47
Darrickdoes anyone here know if its possible to boot vista and kubuntu in parallel?08:48
graxaimin paralel? o_O08:48
Dr_willisHmm.. graxaim  if all else fails theres the gos, or geubuntu (or whatever its called now) ubuntu variants that use enlightemnent08:48
Daisuke_Idoopengeu i believe08:49
Dr_willisDarrick,  not without doing some  work with xen or  virtualmachines :)08:49
Darrickum parallel = same time08:49
graxaimDr_willis: hmm... but that should be using E 0.1608:49
Darrickim ok with using a virtual machine08:49
Dr_willisgraxaim,  they may have newer.. I dont care for E. :)08:49
Dr_willisDarrick,  thats not really 'booting' at the same time. :)08:49
Dr_willisubuntu runs decently well inside virtualbox08:49
graxaimDr_willis: yeah I dont care about it either, but I would like to check it out, since I tryied the 0.13 version LONG ago ;)08:49
Darrickok in reality i want leopard in a virtual box..08:50
graxaimjust to see how it goes. they say it's pretty lightweighter08:50
Dr_willisgraxaim,  i suggest tracking down a live cd. :) those geubuntu/gos repos.. sort of goofed up stuff..08:50
graxaimthanks for the advice08:50
Dr_willisgraxaim,  so they claim..  i rember when E was the HEAVY bloated Desktop. :)08:50
Dr_willisgraxaim,  and i really dident see it being much better now.08:50
graxaimyeap.. but as far as E was the heavy bloated desktop, KDE was nearly not useable... buggy and unstable.. gnome didn't even exist.08:52
JaZmAn____if installing a pagage on h/d does it alway d/l other parts of the program on the net08:52
graxaimwindowmaker and afterstep were the "gods"..08:52
Dr_willisE - the original 'work in progress' desktop!08:52
JaZmAn____also good prog to print cd labels as i cant get cd label print to work under wine08:52
Dr_williswindowmaker has gotten a little weirder over the last few years. :)08:53
graxaimeverybody has abandoned the E developing team, there's no attractives to an enviroment that just wanna be "beautiful"08:53
Dr_willis!info glabel08:53
ubottuPackage glabel does not exist in hardy08:53
Dr_willis!info glable08:53
ubottuPackage glable does not exist in hardy08:53
graxaimDr_willis: yeah, not sure if kojima is still developing it.. I don't actually care either, windowmaker is not good anymore for me08:53
Dr_willisI know theres a label maker program in the repos. :) ive used it.08:53
Dr_willisgraxaim,  it went all Gnustep and next-cloneish.. and lost  me as a user. :P08:53
graxaimthere was a time when APACHE was not only a web server but also a web browser heh08:53
JaZmAn____cool as i can print on printable disk08:54
JaZmAn____but need cannon drivers08:54
graxaimDr_willis: I guess the next step will be macosxish and windozish desktops.. actually not next, but the reality right now08:54
Dr_willisi find os-x and vista to be step backwards in useability in many ways..08:55
Dr_willis:)08:55
WhoNeedszzzHey guys, I just saw that I have KNetAttach. I'm trying to use it with its ssh mode but i put everything in, it connected, i entered the pw, and then it said unable to connect to server. Why is this?08:55
Dr_willis!info KNetAttach08:57
ubottuPackage knetattach does not exist in hardy08:57
graxaimDr_willis: I like the window-thing when you pull your mouse to the right upper corner...08:57
graxaimI got addicted to that... and compiz has the trick08:57
graxaimnow I'm out of GL-accelerated desktop and I need that thing, and I can't have =(08:57
Dr_willisgraxaim,  the expose? well.. I find it interesting how OS-X has to have all these features.. to  overcome its otherwise awkward window management. :)08:57
graxaimyeap the concept is a bit different08:58
Dr_willisI saw some new Apple Mice that had buttons JUST for the desktop widgets, and expose,08:58
graxaimbut it also has menus and ..08:58
Dr_williswas playing with the new macs at the store ad the mouse had this littel round button/ball. :)08:58
graxaimDr_willis: what makes the mice from mac successful is its simplicity... why are they changing it?08:59
WhoNeedszzzDr_willis: yes it does08:59
Dr_willisand i think on the sides it had 2 buttons. the ball did the 'widgets' and i think the side did expose.08:59
WhoNeedszzzDr_willis: it most certainly exists in hardy08:59
graxaimI think apple is gonna crash hard in this near future, before microsoft...08:59
Dr_willisapple is focused on the high-end - always has.. and    people are very ficlked. :)09:00
Dr_willisFickled.09:00
graxaimif apple computers were less expensive, I am sure they would be much more widespread09:00
Dr_willisApple dosent want them to be widespread. Then they loose their 'coolness' apeal.09:00
graxaimyou are right, but that's not what market stability is made of09:00
graxaimcoolness is always fragile09:00
Dr_willisLike car makers and their High-end Vipers and Mustangs with 5000+ HP :)09:00
graxaimbecause what's cool is what's on fashion spots.. if you loose the spot, you are broke09:01
Dr_willisive heard that apple 'might' be trying to reduce their prices.. but i will belive that when i see it.09:01
graxaimDr_willis: do you think a mercedes car is unaffordable? where are you from?09:01
Dr_willisgraxaim,  a new car - thats the cost of my House.. :) yes.. its unaffordable.09:01
graxaimmacbooks are already a reality.. they are the cheapest mac computers. and they are 13"!09:02
graxaimDr_willis: where r u from09:02
Dr_willisIm in Indiana. and i work for Chrysler. :)09:02
Dr_willisused to be 'Daimler Chrysler'09:02
tzdi am unable to mount a shared samba network resource in fstab.  When doing it manually via: sudo mount //computer/Resource /media/folder it works. Any ideas on what might be wrong please?09:02
graxaimwait.. a mercedes SLK cost around 25-30k right09:02
graxaimhere they would go as far as 150k09:02
graxaim:)09:03
graxaimI am from Brazil.09:03
Dr_willisgraxaim,  i  work for The mercedes company. and there was NO ONE that could afford the cars.09:03
Dr_willis25K would be a 'decent mini van'09:03
graxaimvery overpriced for what they give you.. blame the government for that too, but...09:03
Dr_willistzd,  spaces in the share names?09:04
graxaimDr_willis: man, you make $120k per year, why wouldn't you afford a mercedes sport car?09:04
tzdDr_willis: none09:04
Dr_willis graxaim  because i dont want to be in DEBT up to my eyeballs when i retire. :)09:04
graxaimlol09:04
Dr_willisgraxaim,  i will take the 100k and put in the 401k09:04
graxaimhow much a mercedes SLK 230 cost in Indiana?09:04
tzdDr_willis: I've used this in fstab: //192.168.1.1:/media    /media/mediacifs rw,user,noauto,exec 0009:05
WhoNeedszzzSo no one knows about KNetAttach?09:05
Dr_willistzd,    i tend to just cheat and use smb4k to mount samba shares.09:05
graxaimDr_willis: so you prefer to buy your car when you have the whole amount to pay for it?09:06
Dr_willistzd,  i was using the fusesmb tools for a long time. but had issues with them recently09:06
Dr_willisgraxaim,  never done that either. :)   Been leaseing lately.. since i only drive perhaps 12,000 miles a year.09:06
JaZmAn____i love the kde but one thing that pisses me of to hard to install a package i download to my hard drive09:07
Dr_willistzd,  i would guess a typo/issue int eh fstab.. peraps too many options?  you could  put the mount command in rc.local i guess09:07
tzdDr_willis: i see... yeah i've had major issues just accessing the samba shares... spent past 3 days toget it working... now when it finally works I thought it would be neat to have them auto mounted :)09:07
Dr_willisJaZmAn____,  one normally uses the package manager, not source.09:07
JaZmAn____i normally do09:07
Dr_willisJaZmAn____,  how hard is it to install somthing from source under windows? :)09:07
JaZmAn____like adaptec09:07
JaZmAn____or synapic09:07
graxaimgraxaim: how does a leasing work?09:08
JaZmAn____i dont think im install form source09:08
Dr_williswith the .deb stuff now you can doubleclick on them and they are supposed to   auto-get dependencies and install now a days.09:08
Dr_willisin theory at least. :)09:08
JaZmAn____i hope so09:08
JaZmAn____so far it only ben t add remove09:08
JaZmAn____like i want to install stuf that aint on the kubunut repos09:09
llutztzd: try " //192.168.1.1/media .."  without :09:09
Dr_willisa lot of stuff not in the reppos are on some ofthe various 'ppa' (paa?) sites/mini repos    or the programs sites have their own debs allready for ubuntu.09:10
Dr_willishttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas09:11
Dr_willisPersonal Package Archives (PPA) allow you to upload Ubuntu source packages to be built and published as an apt repository by Launchpad. You can find out more about PPAs and how to use them in our quick-start guide09:11
JaZmAn____so i need to use d/l launchpad with firefox09:12
tzdllutz: ok, will do.... is it just me or does fstab automatically mount on change? Yesterday when i was fiddling and adding new mounts it automatically mounted them on save?09:12
DeepThoughtmy gnash-dbg.log file turned out to be 6 Gigs in size; how can that be, and has anyone had similar experience ?09:12
llutztzd: that's a hal/kde thingy09:13
Dr_willisJaZmAn____,  the ppa stuff lets you add a specilized repo for a specific app if you want. and use the package manager tool.09:13
JaZmAn____i just wante to save pages on disk so in case i had to put it on aGAIN i dont have to d/l it again09:13
JaZmAn____ok09:13
Dr_willisI tend to set up one machine onthe lan as a apt-cacher server. it saves allthe packages..09:13
Dr_willisof course if you keep a package around for a long time - odds are it will get out of date. and you will still have to download the latest version09:13
DeepThoughtDr_willis: know of any deb' s for kde 4.1 beta somewhere ?09:13
Dr_willisI found it best to test KDE4 with live cd's :)09:14
JaZmAn____sems a bit of messing arounf09:14
JaZmAn____g09:14
Dr_willisJaZmAn____,  compare it to how windows does it...  'go here, find this.. oh wait that site is old.. i need to go over HERE and get the latest'09:14
JaZmAn____well spos i only have to wait till october for intrepid09:15
Dr_willisadd the lines to your list of repos. and its installable/remiveable/and updateable.09:15
JaZmAn____then update all09:15
JaZmAn____ik i try this is new to me09:15
Dr_willisi always found it odd that windows apps normally have an 'uninstall icon' in the menus for every program.. that often also 'reinstall/repairs, and removes'   AND an identical feature in their add/remove stuff..09:17
Dr_willisand every major app seems to have its own 'update feature' thats always running in the system tray. :)09:17
lukaszhello09:18
lukaszi have a problem ;/09:18
p_quarles!ask09:18
Dr_willisHowdy lukasz09:18
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)09:18
JaZmAn____i thought so with win dr willis09:18
lukaszyesterday i upgrade my kubuntu09:19
lukasz"sudo apt-get update09:19
lukasz"sudo apt-get upgrade09:19
tzdllutz: that might have done the trick, it works now although the drives appear empty. Is there an easy way to "restart" fstab or do i need to reboot?09:19
lukaszand today my wifi dosen't work;/09:19
llutztzd: "sudo fstab -a"09:19
llutztzd: "sudo mount -a"09:20
llutzsorry09:20
tzdllutz: thanks09:20
JaZmAn____kia ora09:20
iltechie!sound09:20
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:20
lukaszmy kubuntu see belkin but09:22
lukaszwhen i trying connect09:22
tzdllutz: for some reason only 1 of my shared folders appears. the other 2 won't mount even though they have identical mount options in fstab?09:22
lukaszits crash.09:22
llutztzd: mountpoints exist? share exist?09:23
tzdllutz: yes. Will try the shares on win xp as well just to make sure :)09:23
llutztzd: check with "smbclient -L <netbiosname>" for available shares09:24
tzdllutz: yes, they do exist via smbclient.09:26
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graxaimDr_willis: hey09:26
llutztzd: pls paste your fstab to pastebin09:26
llutz!pastebin09:26
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:26
graxaimI just closed konversation by mistake lol.. tiny little icons in fluxbox makes me go crazy09:26
graxaim!danger09:26
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!09:26
graxaim^^09:26
tzdllutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15939/09:27
Dr_willisfluxbox and other variants always seem to have the UGLIEST themes with tiny tiny icons/windowbars/ :)09:27
Dr_willisand tiny fonts.09:27
Dr_willisheh - but tey come with like 100+ themes it seems.09:27
graxaimDr_willis: actually for my 14 inch screen is fine...09:27
Dr_willisIm gettting old.. i want 18+ point fonts. :)09:27
DeepThoughtfluxbox rocks09:27
Dr_willison my 22+ inch screen09:27
llutztzd: any message if you type "mount /media/torrents"  ?09:27
graxaimme too, but I can't afford a 22+ screen ;)09:28
Dr_willismy wife reduces  her res doen to 800x60009:28
DeepThoughtbut it doesn ' t roll all that well... ;-)09:28
graxaimDr_willis: maybe when I'm a doctor I'll buy one :)09:28
tzdllutz: mount error: permission denied or not superuser and mount.cifs not installed SUID09:28
tzdllutz: ops, will try with sudo :P09:28
graxaimI've been considering becoming a Ophtalmologist.. I'll be sure to get a huge fine screen otherwise I'll screw my eyes before my clients'09:28
graxaimlol09:28
llutzDr_willis: glasses are cheaper/easier09:28
Dr_willistzd,  well one could suid the mount.cifs.. but that sounds like a security issue. :)09:28
Dr_williswhy would one use cifs, instead of the other.. err.. smbfs ? for the filesystem...09:29
Dr_willisi never have been clear on that09:29
llutzcifs is newer09:29
graxaimDr_willis: you know that chrysler is not very popular in Brazil. mercedes and dodge (that belongs to chrysler) have better appeal...09:29
Dr_willisgraxaim,  mercedes is no longer part of chrysler.09:30
tzdllutz: with sudo it worked09:30
DeepThoughtgraxaim: that's a great misconception; actually reading small print and in the darl trains your eyes to get better instead of wearing them out09:30
graxaimyeap, but around here, they still are sold together09:30
DeepThoughtdark09:30
graxaimDeepThought: you are wrong09:30
Dr_willisI dont even know where a mercedes dealer IS in this state. :)09:30
llutztzd: then automount via fstab should work  too09:30
graxaimDeepThought: I am a medical student and I am aware of that lie.09:31
Dr_willisa user mounting a samba share. may not be the best idea.09:31
graxaimyou should not force your eyes to do things it is not capable of09:31
* Dr_willis wants X-ray vision09:31
graxaimlike trying to use infrared vision and nightvision.. lol09:31
tzdllutz: ok, then changing the 'noauto' to 'auto' should do the trick right?09:31
DeepThoughtI grew up amongst doctors; and will quit being off-topic now09:31
llutztzd: yes09:31
graxaimDeepThought: if that was true, the cure for miopic eyes would be "reading very small letters" ;)09:32
graxaimhypermetropia actually might heal itself through time.09:33
graxaimbut that's not related to reading things in the dark or small characters..09:33
DeepThoughtyou know that's not what I meant; being myopic can ' t be cured by training; becoming myopic however is not influenced in a negative way by using your eyes...09:33
graxaimas far as I know the best you can get is a lancinating headache09:33
JaZmAn____wonder if i cna get my cannon printer to work09:34
graxaimDeepThought: but that should be true then, since miopy is caused by a constrictor muscle deficiency09:34
DeepThoughtgraxaim: use it or loose it; remember ?09:35
graxaimI mean.. the muscle that accomodates the crystaline lenses...09:35
Dr_williscanon has  had been one of those companies with less then great linux support.. a lot depends on your exact printer.09:35
graxaimgraxaim: use it too much, it might get hurt... :) try doing that with your p-nis or a-nus... u know that.09:35
DeepThought;-P09:35
graxaimis only me that think that KDE4 sucks?09:36
graxaimit seems quite much an involution from kde 3.5+09:36
Dr_williskde4 is very much a work in progress09:40
graxaimhmm.. maybe that's the reason, besides being sluggishly slow09:41
Hoenikkerbasing your opinion on 4.04 or the 4.1 beta?09:41
graxaimthe one avaiable in the repository =D09:41
graxaimlemme check it09:41
graxaimit is 4.0.309:42
Hoenikkerit's work in progress, like, pre alpha stability/feature-completeness09:42
JaZmAn____works in firefox printer im using hardy09:42
graxaimI'm not compiling anything big anymore.. tired of doing that.. I've already used gentoo for too long, even created my own distribution =D09:43
graxaimso I'm probably not trying kde 4.1 beta or something before it's realeased under ubuntu supported packages09:43
The_ManU_212hi09:44
The_ManU_212i'm using default sources and hardy09:44
The_ManU_212when i installed fretsonfire it always crashes09:44
The_ManU_212http://pastebin.com/m5caf89d009:44
The_ManU_212if i downlaod fretsonfire from developers it's running stable and quickly09:44
The_ManU_212whats wrong?09:44
Dr_willisbug fix's  would be my guess.09:48
iltechiehow do I learn about intel onboard vga capabilities? that before installing compiz09:53
JimmY1Hey guys im just trying to open a file called ies4linux but when i click it, it just goes to kate !!!09:54
JimmY1what am i doing wrong ?09:54
JimmY1hello09:56
JimmY1is any1 here ?09:57
Dr_williswhats the full file name?09:57
Dr_willisif its a 'shell' script - you proberly want to run it from the command line.09:57
Dr_willissh ies4linux , or 'sudo sh ies4linux' or similer.09:57
JimmY1i tried it but im still very new at linux i dont really know how to open directories09:58
Dr_willis!terminal09:59
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:59
Dr_willisYou might want to spend an hr or so learning/reading some bash/shell tutorials - befor trying to run ies4linux - i hear that ies4linux can be a little.. quirky.10:00
JimmY1hmm10:00
JimmY1ok i might just have to do that10:01
eagles0513875Dr_willis: i have had no issues with it10:01
JimmY1i want to get to know linux a bit better10:01
Dr_willisbut in short...   open a terminal,   use 'cd Desktop'  (if the file is on your Desktop)   'sudo  sh ies4linux'10:01
JimmY1yeh didnt work10:01
JimmY1but anyway10:01
JimmY1ill do what you said first10:01
JimmY1cheers mate cya10:01
Dr_willis what 'dident work' ?10:01
Dr_willisOh well.. it pays to learn some basics..  . :) when some one asks 'whats a terminal' its time to  do a little reading. it will go a LOOOONG way.10:02
eagles0513875brb need to go fill up the car10:04
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proghi, is there hardty specific information about how to add a printer?10:14
proghardy10:14
petruccidude u ask too much10:14
graxaimprog: hey..10:15
progis it hard-y?10:15
graxaimprog: adding a printer on Ubuntu is supposed to be: PLUG IT, done.10:15
progI mean a gui dialog or something10:15
graxaimat least my canon s200x was exactly like this10:15
petrucciplug in babe10:15
progI don't want to plug any printer, just want to configure one10:16
eagles0513875what did i miss10:21
eagles0513875prog: what kinda printer u wanting to add10:21
progany one, I plan to test if I can make it visible in some other OS10:22
Dr_willisunder hardy my printer is - plug it in.. done. :)10:23
Dr_willisdepends on the exact printer i guess10:23
progwell say I want to add a hp laserjet 1200 (I dont' have it physically, but that should matter?)10:24
Dr_willisit might get a bit confiused. theres some printer tool in the kde control panel icons, run it and see i guess.10:25
progI found some, (I have a spanish version don't know exact translation) applications->system->hp toolbox (it say there are no hp devices found, in short it say add a printer with some tool, sigh)10:27
Dr_willisthere should be some icon lavbled control panel, or control center. :)10:28
progapplications->tools->kjob viewer (duh, I want to add one printer not monitor one)10:28
Dr_willisright in the root of the menus10:28
Dr_willisunless we are talking kde4.. theni got no idea10:28
progapplication->system->printing (it shows a printer configuration 6 checkboxes, no way to add a printer)10:29
JackWinteri just wanted to do a full upgrade, and it aborted with unable to complete...  in adept it looks like it was successful ?  what now, how do i check if indeed the system is up to date ?10:30
progDr_willis: yes sorry, I have kde 410:31
killzonedoes networkmanager not support showing information for a ethernet bridge?10:33
proglet see ubuntu, thanks...10:35
sneg__Hi all. A couple of weeks ago I decided to run an automatic upgrate from Gutsy to Hardy. Unfortunately for some reason the system started hanging on kernel versions 16-17 (works stable on *14) and is generally very slow (for eg MPlayer plays movies at a ridiculously low frame rate and its almost impossible to run anything when amarok is running). If anyone can help me diagnose my pc to identify the problem, I would apprecia10:40
sneg__te your help.10:40
sneg__when i mean hang -> death. mouse + keyboard do not work at all.10:40
sneg__btw, i m running Kubuntu on my laptop. and on Gutsy it was working absolutely fine.10:41
JackWinteris there a way to lock installed packages.  i'd like to do a "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade", but i have an older version of vlc installed that i don't wanna overwrite10:44
Dr_willis!pin10:46
JackWinterseems like synaptic has this functionallity10:46
Dr_willisits using the 'pinning' feature of the apt system10:47
Dr_willisbot has a factoid on the topic.. but the bot is missing it seems10:47
JackWinterDr_willis: thanks i'll google10:52
podr0znikGood morning all :)10:52
podr0znikI'm wondering if there's somebody here with some time, patience, willing to help me :)10:53
Agent_bobdoes mac do something to their floppies that make them worthless for use in pc's ?10:53
podr0znikTried to install a label printer yesterday (Brother QL-500) but we didn't manage so far (we = Tophat & me)10:53
Dr_willisapples floppy disk drives at one time - were different from the pc's10:53
Agent_bobi don't mean different format.  i mean causes i.o. errors when formatting.10:54
Dr_willisapple and amigas used one kind of drive. with somthing physically different to them. But as far as i know they should be able to read/write pc formated floppies fine.10:54
Dr_willisbut egads.. when did apple last make floppies? :)10:54
Agent_bobmaybe i just got a batch of 'sorry' media.10:55
Dr_willisCould be the drive or disks are rather old.10:55
Dr_willisor both10:55
Agent_bobdrive is not problematic execpt with these "made for mac" disks.10:55
Dr_willisheh.... So you have apple-ready floppies and trying to format them in a PC floppy drive?10:56
Agent_bobyeah  i've done that many times.  but this whole box seems to have bad sectors  starting about block 110:58
dklfkslgsSalut tout le monde10:59
Agent_bobblock 1,6,(no telling what others)+   seem to be bad on most of them.10:59
Agent_bobso i was wondering if mac did something special to the media10:59
Agent_bob"like poked wholes in the floppy disk with a stapeler or something..."11:00
Agent_bob"instructions stapeled to free condoms, kind of thing..."11:01
Dr_williswell you could try to dd the floppies first  from /dev/zero then try again11:03
Dr_willisI recall ages ago having to  jump through hoops  when messing with apple/amiga/dos floppies11:04
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Agent_bobyeah,   k.11:04
dazjorzHi11:06
dazjorzI just asked this question in #ubuntu, but I don't really expect an answer there, as always11:06
dazjorzbut this question might be more related to Kubuntu, too11:06
dazjorzI upgraded from Kubuntu Gutsy to Kubuntu Hurdy, and have been running KDE4 inside Gutsy11:06
dazjorzI'm trying to install the kdelibs5-dev package and I get this error message:11:07
dazjorzThe following packages have unmet dependencies: kdelibs5-dev: Depends: kdelibs5 (= 4:4.0.4-0ubuntu1~hardy1) but 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2 is to be installed11:07
cbrthe new kde4 packages are not completely built yet imo11:07
cbrthe build daemons are not that fast11:07
flaccid_looks like a repos conflict. what does sudo apt-cache madison kdelibs5 return?11:07
dazjorzwell, you see, 0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa211:08
dazjorzI think I got versions of packages from Launchpad with that name11:08
dazjorzer, version11:08
dazjorzthe KDE4 repository on Launchpad11:09
JackWinteris there a new branch nowdays ?  i'd be interested in trying kernel 2.6.25.4-rt3 ?11:09
dazjorzso I think I've got some leftover packets with 4.0.80 as a version11:09
dazjorzhow do I downgrade these to 4.0.4?11:09
flaccid_dazjorz: please advise the output of the command and try to keep responses on 1 line11:09
JackWinteror do i have to learn how to compile and install it myself ?11:09
Agent_bob--force-insrall11:09
flaccid_dazjorz: kde4 support is also in #kubuntu-kde411:09
dazjorzflaccid_: er.. yeah, I'll try, I tend to be a little spammy11:09
flaccid_np11:10
dazjorzflaccid_: Output for the command is at http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=304311:10
cbrwhere is the launchpad kde4 repo?11:11
dazjorzcbr: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main11:12
cbroh, hardy11:13
flaccid_dazjorz: to perform the upgrade you need to disable hardy-updates/universe, hardy-security/universe and hardy/universe then update then upgrade will happen with the backports repos. then you should be able to re-enable the others again.11:13
dazjorzflaccid_: what upgrade?11:13
dazjorzsudo apt-get install kdelibs5=4:4.0.4-0ubuntu1~hardy1 kde4libs-bin=4:4.0.4-0ubuntu1~hardy111:14
flaccid_dazjorz: sorry i meant install of the kdelibs5-dev package11:14
dazjorzthis is going to downgrade the packages, I think11:14
flaccid_have a look at the pastebin. that package exists in 4 of your repos..11:14
flaccid_thus the problem.11:14
dazjorzah... right11:15
dazjorzodd that the newest version of the package is in backports11:15
dazjorzoh, wait, misparsed11:15
flaccid_backports is pretty much from intrepid11:16
flaccid_in theory11:16
theFATMANwhats up guys, new to kde, how do i change the high contrast icons in the panel?11:16
cbrintrepid still has 4.0.311:16
flaccid_atm yes11:17
flaccid_theFATMAN: change how?11:17
theFATMANas in a different theme, different icons, the look11:17
Agent_bobooops  i just filled my ram with /dev/zero     cat /dev/zero > /dev/fd0u1440    but udev did not make the inode so it was a regular file and seeing that /dev is a tmpfs by default on *buntu  ...11:18
flaccid_theFATMAN: lots. right click the panel and configure the panel itself. right click a button and configure the button. goto system settings and configure appearance, themes etc.11:18
theFATMANflaccid: i have changed everything else, but i cant change them11:18
theFATMANohhhhh11:18
flaccid_!doesntwork | theFATMAN11:18
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  but it formated fast! :)11:19
Agent_bobDr_willis indeed !11:19
Dr_willisnow zip it up!11:20
Dr_willisand me amazed at the compression ratio!11:20
Agent_bobheh11:20
dazjorzAh, yay, it seems I've got it fixed, thank you flaccid_ and others :-)11:20
flaccid_np11:20
gemoHi everyone. It's a really great job you do on Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Just one question about kubuntu 8.04 hardy. Why is /usr/bin/kdesu now just a symlink to kdesudo? Before upgrade to hardy I always used kdesu, having declared the super-user-command to su. In hardy I then got kdesudo back, and I could only fix it by downloading the source code from kde.org, compling them and copying kdesu to /usr/bin replacing the symlink11:21
Agent_bobDr_willis like gzipping .jpg or .mp3 files and watching them grow.11:22
Dr_willishmm.. I thought kdesu became a wrapper around the other.. (or visa versa) to get around some bug with kde3/411:22
flaccid_gemo: i don't know why. but likely that they don't want root running directly in X. kdesudo is fine yeah?11:22
stdingemo: gemo ubuntu and kubuntu use sudo not su, and kdesudo is a wrapper for sudo11:22
Dr_willisIve never noticed any issued with either kdesu/or kdesudo11:22
gemoactually I never liked that sudo way11:23
gemothat's why I used su, gksu and kdesu11:23
Dr_willisI tend to use 'sux' :)11:23
zippo_Hiho11:23
zippo_Can someone Help me11:23
stdinsudo is better, in many ways11:23
Dr_williszippo_,  depends on the issue11:23
zippo_i 've got kubuntu 8.04 and i cannot install anything11:23
flaccid_gemo: there are docs on the internet on reasons why not to run X apps directly. i mean why would you need/want to?11:23
zippo_my repozytories are empty11:23
Agent_bob!repos11:23
flaccid_zippo_: enable them in adept11:23
zippo_how to?11:24
zippo_sorry bob.11:24
gemoflaccid_: I just don't like the fact that everyone who somehow gets to now my password can also gain root rights on my computer11:24
Agent_bob!bot11:24
Agent_bobno bot...11:24
stdinAgent_bob: it died, and I can't reach the server it's on :(11:24
gemoflaccid_: That's why I activate the root account and use su11:24
stdingemo: that's unsupported, but you can do that if you want11:25
Agent_bobstdin ok.   just noticed it.11:25
Dr_willishttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/11:25
flaccid_gemo: thats worse. so i know the user for root is root, so i'll just login with that instead which means i don't need to use sudo, cheers :)11:25
x_linkHi11:25
x_linkIsn't VLC in Hardy?11:25
Dr_willisx_link,  it was last i looked.11:26
stdingemo: "I just don't like the fact that everyone who somehow gets to now my password can also gain root rights on my computer", as opposed to everyone who gets the root pass gaining root rights :p11:26
x_linkDr_willis: Well, I can't install it.11:26
flaccid_gemo: is there a reason why an admin user should share their password with non-admin users. passwords are never shared..11:26
Dr_willisx_link,   You may need to enable some of the other repositories.11:26
Agent_bobflaccid_ that's an old and dying argument.11:26
flaccid_stdin: i think we are in stereo dang :)11:26
* Dr_willis changes the name of his root user to be 'admin' that will confuse everyone!11:26
stdinzippo_: open Adept Manager, from KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager, then go to the Adept menu and click "Manage Repositories", then just check all the boxes in the first tab11:27
flaccid_Agent_bob: no its not11:27
gemook, this is going to become a discussion about benefits of sudo and so on. But this has nothing to do with original question of mine11:27
Agent_bob^5 dr.11:27
x_linkDr_willis: Well, now when I do aptitide search vlc I also see it. But I can't install it.11:27
x_linkI really don't like hardy.11:27
gemowhat I meant, is that beofry hardy ther was /usr/bin/kdesu which wasn't a symlink to kdesudo11:27
flaccid_gemo: yeah i guess we have answered it sweet11:27
Dr_willisx_link,  do a 'update' of the package listing, then upgrade, then try again.11:27
gemoand in hardy it's now a symlink11:27
stdingemo: as I said, we use sudo so all our apps tools are configured to that. if you want to use su exclusivity then you'll have to do that manually11:28
gemoAnyway, I've found a workaround, so it doesn't really matter now11:28
x_linkDr_willis: already tried that.11:28
Dr_willisx_link,  no idea then. unless you got a more specific error message.11:28
flaccid_gemo: i already answered it.11:28
gemostdin: yeah, I know. But as said. Earlier I only had to set the super-user-command to su and kdesu worked as kdesu. But now it's not enough11:28
flaccid_gemo: there is nothing to work around :)11:28
Agent_bobgemo short answer they are not going to help you "break"(their word not mine) your system.11:29
flaccid_gemo: please explain why kdesudo is not enough?11:29
flaccid_Agent_bob: it is your word, we never used it.11:29
stdingemo: because kdesu was buggy with sudo, so we made a sudo wrapper11:29
gemoflaccid_: Well, I want to use kdesu, and I don't want to use kdesudo, that's the whole point11:29
Agent_bobflaccid_ not today.   but yes that's what i have seen here.11:29
flaccid_gemo: its crazy that you want/ and need to use it. this is not how kubuntu is designed.11:30
gemoflaccid_, stdin: Ok, I see, we're not getting anywhere. So just forget it11:30
stdinAgent_bob: ubottu's words anyway ;)11:30
Dr_willishe wants the bugs?11:30
flaccid_i would never say kdesu breaks a system, others might11:30
Agent_bobstdin is ubottu not part of the ubuntu team ???   :/11:30
gemoflaccid_: Kubuntu is Linux, isnt' it? And in Linux normally you have a full-functional root account.11:30
flaccid_gemo: try listening oneday buddy :)11:30
stdingemo: we made it the default to use kdesudo because we use sudo, that's why we changed it11:30
flaccid_gemo: linux is a kernel, not userland. we are talking about userland.11:31
Dr_willisgemo,  not always :)  then again.. ive seen some disrtos with only root users.. so theres extremes both ways.11:31
stdinAgent_bob: not really, but it's factoids are considered representative of the "ubuntu team"11:31
flaccid_kubuntu != linux just like a system iv != unix11:31
x_linkDr_willis: Don't have any errors.11:31
gemoonly root users??? WOW. WTF??? :D11:31
x_linkI think that gutsy works better.11:31
Dr_willisx_link,  makes a bit hard to trouble shoot then.11:31
x_linkI can't even install xmms11:31
Agent_bobstdin ok close enough.   i'll quit now.11:31
Dr_willisgemo,  i can think of 3 off hand that are that way, or been that way11:31
Dr_willisx_link,  there is NO XMMS in the repos any more.. :)11:32
Dr_willisx_link,  thats the reason for that.11:32
x_linkAnd when I install nvidia-settings then nvidia-glx-new gets deleted.11:32
stdinx_link: the xmms project is dead, there's an xmms2 iirc11:32
x_linkReally strange.11:32
x_linkstdin: Okey.11:32
Dr_willisi cant figure out how to use xmms2. :) but theres other players that work/similer to xmms11:32
gemoOk, thanks anyway for your answers.11:32
gemogotta go, thanks again, see you guys online!11:33
Agent_bobmy extreem is to setup the entire system "nosuid" so nobody is root but "root"(or what ever root's name may be </winks>)\11:33
x_linkDoes anybody here know when/if it will come a new version of coretemp?11:33
flaccid_the /etc/sudoers file is quite configurable. you can allow and deny anything to any user or group11:35
Agent_bobDr_willis but doesn't uid=0 kinda defeat changing root's name ?11:35
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  :) proberly11:35
Agent_bobflaccid_ @?11:35
Dr_willisTheres paranoid then theres goofy paranoid. :)11:35
Agent_boblol11:35
flaccid_then there is selinux11:36
* Dr_willis adjusts his tinfoil hat.11:36
Agent_bobDr_willis yeah.    then there is "goofy goofy"    the other extreem.11:36
Dr_willisselinux = amazingly paranoid.11:36
Dr_williswhat was that new security thing in ubuntu hardy? apparmour?11:36
Dr_willisI rember selinux, and lets see.. 'bastille' hardening scripts ages ago..11:37
flaccid_yeah that is different but yeah11:37
Agent_bobyep.   /me is a bastille user.11:37
Dr_willissetting all sorts of settings that only like 2 people in the world knew about :)11:37
flaccid_its meant to be a lot easier and based on file paths11:37
ahmedالسلام عليكم اكو شخص خبير عربي11:37
flaccid_!english | ahmed11:37
flaccid_ahmed: sorry english only channel11:38
ahmedok sear11:38
flaccid_im off cia011:38
Agent_bob!gr    if the bot were here.11:39
ahmedwho add winme in the kubuntu11:40
stdinahmed: there is #ubuntu-ar for Arabic language support11:40
ahmedplzzz hellp me11:40
ahmedthanks11:40
x_linkDoes anybody know if/when if coretemp will come out with a new version?11:41
x_linkCause I can't run --> sudo modprobe coretemp.11:41
x_linkI have been googling a bit and it seems that my CPU it to new for my kernel or something.11:42
x_linkI can't see my CPU-temp in ksensors now.11:42
Dr_willisive never even heard of coretemp :)11:42
x_linkBut it worked great with my Intel Dual-Core E2200, but doesn't work with my Intel C2D E840011:42
x_linkDr_willis: Okey, it's a module I need to be able to see my CPU-temp in ksensors.11:43
Dr_willisahh.. yep things like that are often hard to keep up to date with the latest hardware11:43
Agent_bobhmmm, my root doesn't have $UID set !11:44
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  i recall that befor.. somthing with how sudo works? i forget.. we had a chat on it a few months back11:44
Agent_boboh wait.  it may be that dash doesn't have it and bash does...11:44
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  i THINK thats  the reason11:45
Agent_bobyep.  dash.11:45
* Dr_willis jogs his memory11:45
Agent_bobso dash does have $USER but not $UID   and bash has user adjustable $USER but not $UID    those two are not really compatable...11:46
Dr_willisnever noticed..  never had any issues with it.11:47
Agent_bobconclusion dash needs UID= set11:47
Dr_willisJust be sure to use #!/bin/bash or #!/bin/sh thats correct for your script. :)11:47
Dr_willisunset UID and see?11:48
Agent_bobDr_willis yeah i was trying to go completely bashless   (#!/bin/sh)+11:49
v6luranyone else having problems with compiz-fusion not working anymore (hardy)11:49
MetaMorfoziShi all11:50
MetaMorfoziSi'm in here: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd-p211:51
jonathan_hello!11:51
crsre11:51
MetaMorfoziSMy question is, how can i run an application from chroot?11:51
MetaMorfoziSX application11:51
crsMetaMorfoziS: export DISPLAY variable11:51
jonathan_i successfully installed kubuntu 8.04 and compiz that never worked before (crashed with bad graphic errors) :)11:51
MetaMorfoziSyes, i did that11:51
MetaMorfoziSbut it still not found the display...11:51
crsMetaMorfoziS: DISPLAY=<propar value> apps11:52
MetaMorfoziS"cannot connect to X server :0"11:52
jonathan_but now fullscreen-movies don't wirk11:52
crsjonathan_: which player?11:52
MetaMorfoziS^ didn't work11:52
jonathan_can anyone tell my where i can finde the config-File of cimpiz?11:52
MetaMorfoziSjonathan_ > something .ccsm11:52
jonathan_(i already found a solution in the internet but you need an application thats only for ubuntu11:52
jonathan_)11:52
crsMetaMorfoziS: hmm .Xauthority ?11:52
MetaMorfoziSit's gui named ccsm11:52
MetaMorfoziSwhat i need to do with that?11:52
jonathan_oh thank you ^^11:53
jonathan_thats what i was searchin for ;)11:53
Dr_willis'sux' handles  the DISPLAY and .Xauthority stuff also. 0   but its not instaled by default.11:53
crsjonathan_: instakll compizconfig-settings-manager11:53
MetaMorfoziSDr_willis > okay, so what i need to do? Copy my .Xauthority from the host?11:54
MetaMorfoziSAnd install sux?11:54
crsMetaMorfoziS: I don't know then, sorry. ;/11:54
Dr_willisI just run 'sux' to switch to whatever user i want to have access to the desktop.11:54
Dr_willisbut the chroot stuff..may be causing the issues11:54
Dr_williswhy do you need to run ccsm  anyway?11:54
MetaMorfoziSme?11:55
MetaMorfoziSI don't need, i just telled it to jonathan_11:56
* Dr_willis has totally missed the initial problem then11:56
Dr_willis:)11:56
MetaMorfoziSforget everything11:57
MetaMorfoziSi want to run x applications from ac hrooted environment11:57
crsMetaMorfoziS: is you server listening for TCP connections?11:58
crsMetaMorfoziS: xserver of course11:58
Dr_willissee the chroot may be causing the issues. in a non chroot env. i would login,  do 'sux' enter the password of the user i am 'su ing' to .  then any x apps i start from that shell are ran as that user.11:58
MetaMorfoziSwho knows:)11:58
Dr_willisnow how chroot fits in.. i dont know.11:58
Agent_bobDr_willis in sh everything execpt OPTIND can be unset  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d72fc2f0c11:59
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  :) isent that cool.11:59
Dr_williswhy not OPTIND! :)11:59
Agent_bobsee the pastebin ^   idk why.11:59
crsMetaMorfoziS: http://www.groupsrv.com/linux/about21387.html11:59
MetaMorfoziScrs > yes i found this in the same time as you12:00
MetaMorfoziSbut i don't know how to do that12:00
crsMetaMorfoziS: ;-)12:00
Dr_willisYou are setting up a 'chroot jail' for a single app ?12:01
Agent_bobqemu jail is better imo12:02
MetaMorfoziSno, for a kubuntu livecd12:02
MetaMorfoziS:)12:02
crsDr_willis: I think he is on livecd chrooted into hdd based system and wants to run some configure tool :)12:03
crsMetaMorfoziS: What do you want to do? There must be the other way ;-)12:03
Agent_bobbut i found the timming in qemu is way off.    things that count on hw clocks run way too fast/slow/sparatic12:03
MetaMorfoziScrs > i want to run synaptic12:03
MetaMorfoziSto see the sizes of the installed packages12:03
Dr_willisOne could always do the very unsafe 'xhost +' then su/chroot over  and run the apps after exporting the display i guess.12:03
MetaMorfoziSi want to trim kubuntu livecd down12:04
crsMetaMorfoziS: use aptitude12:04
MetaMorfoziSto fit on my pendrive12:04
MetaMorfoziSthe installed verson:)12:04
crsinstead12:04
MetaMorfoziShmm a good idea, but i never used it12:04
crsMetaMorfoziS: aptitude will give you the same info12:04
Dr_willisI recall some 'remaster ubuntu livecd'  guides out there.12:04
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS you may want "pivot_root" rather than "chroot"12:04
MetaMorfoziSyes, i linked one above12:04
Agent_boboh nevermind.12:05
Dr_willisbut isent the livecd's packages all  been some how 'live-cd-affied' :)  so you may not see/get their proper sizes12:05
MetaMorfoziSno12:05
MetaMorfoziSit's extracted12:05
MetaMorfoziShttp://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd-p212:05
Agent_bobi saw a howto on converting a live CD into a usb flash drive.   looked interesting.12:07
Dr_willisive been using Slax and Puppy Linux on my USB flash drives.12:08
Dr_willisthey make handy rescue systems12:08
Agent_bobi don't have anything that will boot from usb12:08
alebocohi guys, with my surprise suspend and resume now work on my laptop, while straight after the upgrade to hardy everything was messed up12:13
MetaMorfoziScrs > how the fsck can i select an option in the aptitude's preferences?12:13
MetaMorfoziSah enter cool.12:13
alebocohowever, i still don't know how to deselect the lock screen option12:13
Agent_bobkcontrol power management something or other12:14
Agent_bobdid kde4 drop "kcontrol" ?12:15
alebocoi'm still in the kde312:15
aleboco(was it for me?)12:15
Agent_bobthe first ^ not the second,  the second was general12:16
alebocohowever, when i suspend closing the lid, i let kpowersave do the job, and it doesn't ask me the password after resume12:16
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: yeah... its all systemsettings12:17
Agent_bobnosrednaekim so command kcontrol isn't in kde4 ?12:17
alebocobut when i suspend (to disk or ram it's the same) the resume asks me for the password12:18
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: correct12:18
alebocoanyway to change it?12:18
Agent_bobstrike three for kde4.12:18
crsMetaMorfoziS: I have no idea, sorry. ;/12:19
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS space-bar ?12:20
Agent_boba lot of things can be unset in bash also. http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3b43b8c312:22
Agent_bobi don't think i have bash installed. </blinks>    not via dpkg anyway.12:25
Agent_bobhmm yeah it's installed i just deleted /bin/bash that's all.   whew!12:26
zorglu_every time i loggin, it asks me for my kde wallet password. how can i remove this ? i dont need this password12:30
theFATMANnew to kubuntu, i'm trying to customize themes, do i need kbfx themes, k3b, what version of kde?12:30
KRFzorglu_, if you're using kde4: it's a bug12:30
theFATMANtrying to get em from kde-look.org, but not sure what to use12:31
zorglu_KRF: i am not. im using 3.5.9 directly out of install12:31
zorglu_KRF: can i have like no password ?12:31
Agent_bobtheFATMAN kmenu help about kde12:31
KRFzorglu_, yes. use an empty one12:32
theFATMAN!theme12:32
nubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy12:32
jussi01zorglu_: set the wallet password to nothing12:32
KRFitll never ask again12:32
theFATMANAgent_bob: thanks12:32
* Agent_bob made a lucky guess that time.12:33
zorglu_KRF: jussi01: ok cool. how do i change my passwd. config kde wallet from the panel applet doesnt seem to offer this option12:33
KRFzorglu_, it does, use settings or something12:33
KRFzorglu_, or run kwalletmanager from console12:34
* jussi01 though you needed to delete the current wallet and create a new one, but not certain12:34
stdinright click the wallet in kwalletmanager and choose "Change Password"12:34
jussi01well then ^^12:34
Agent_bob:)12:35
zorglu_stdin: thanks!12:35
zorglu_KRF: jussi01: thanks too :)12:35
theFATMANhow do i know what version of kde i have?12:36
zorglu_reloggin to test :)12:36
stdintheFATMAN: open any kde app and go to Help -> About KDE12:36
zorglu_theFATMAN: choose "about KDE" in help menu12:36
Agent_bobany lappys on the market today that run on +12V ?12:37
zorglu_imrunning kubuntu on EEEpc this is fun :)12:37
theFATMANzorglu_: thanks12:37
Agent_bobtheFATMAN didn't we just do that ?12:38
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: the eeepc actually :P12:39
theFATMANAgent_bob: probably, i switched from ubuntu to kubuntu and it confused the hell outta me12:39
Agent_bobno.  the "<Agent_bob> theFATMAN kmenu help about kde"12:39
Agent_bob@ nosrednaekim12:40
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: I was aswering the 12 V question...12:40
Agent_bobtheFATMAN (:  that's understandable.   first rule in kde "right click everything"  :)))12:41
Agent_bobnosrednaekim oh heh  </blushs>  sorry.12:41
ActionParsniphey all12:43
nosrednaekimAH! your "A" is back :P12:43
ActionParsnipyeah man, my keyboard is hit an miss sometimes12:43
ActionParsniphow can I get my ubuntu version number from terminal?12:44
minteriorhi12:44
nosrednaekimActionParsnip: lsb_release -a12:44
nosrednaekimhi minterior12:44
minteriordo you know the kernel parameter to load a 8.04 livecd in console mode (without X)12:44
ActionParsnipcheers man12:44
nosrednaekimminterior: I think there is an f4 mode for that12:45
nosrednaekim(hit f4 on the boote selection screen)12:45
Agent_boblsb_release -r12:45
ActionParsnipi got it :) just installing amd64 flash with some script12:46
minteriornosrednaekim: and then the option is: OEM install (for manufacturers) ??12:46
Agent_bobnosrednaekim they added a non-X mode to the liveCD ?12:46
ActionParsnipUBER it works12:47
Agent_bobover it works ?12:48
theFATMANwhat is the kicker?12:48
minteriorwhat is OEM install?12:49
Agent_bobthe application that puts the "pannel/s" on your desktop12:49
Agent_bob@ theFATMAN12:49
Dr_willisfor kde3.XX - its been replaced in KDE4 :)12:49
Agent_bobDr_willis yeah they replaced everything in kde4   maybe kde4 isn't even kde anymore12:50
Dr_willisits kde4 :)12:50
Dr_willisthere comes a time when you just gotta get rid of the old...12:50
Agent_bobDr_willis heh.     not me.12:51
Agent_bobkernel 2.2 is still fine. for me.12:51
* Dr_willis steaks Agent_bob 's dos 1.0 disks!12:51
Dr_willisoops :)12:51
Agent_bobi have dos3.0 origenal disks.   both of them.12:52
Agent_bobthe 5.25" and the 3.5"   :)))12:52
FSHeroHello everyone, I've just been reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153169 because I want to install WinXP, then Ubuntu 8.04 then Fedora 912:52
FSHeroI get the gist that: I must install only one distro's GRUB?12:53
Agent_bobFSHero there is only room for one boot loader in the MBR of any device.    or only part of one if it's grub.12:54
Agent_bobFSHero now if you use multiple devices/disks you can install multiple boot loaders.12:54
Dr_willisFSHero,  correct. I let ubuntu handle the grub entries/configureation on my Puppylinux/Geexbox/Ubuntu system12:54
afief__FSHero: if you install windows there is no grub to uninstall, then you install ubuntu which comes with grub(you can uninstall it) then fedora which has grub too, but you shouldn't uninstall it because you won't have a bootloader if you do12:54
afief__out of curiousity guys, why do you install multiple distros?12:55
FSHeroAgent_bob, Dr_willis, afief__: thx12:55
Dr_willisgeexbox = to play videos. :)  it boots my laptop in 20 sec. to a media player. Puppy - for a 'rescue/toy'  - ubuntu for real work.12:55
Agent_bobafief__  Q. what do linux users do?    A. they install software.12:55
Dr_willisgeexbox + puppy = a few 100mb total on my first partition12:56
FSHeroSo, if I install WinXP, then Ubuntu, then finally Fedora, I don't install Fedora's _GRUB_? (btw all are to be installed on one hard disk)12:56
Agent_bob                ^     partitions   heh.12:56
Agent_bobFSHero correct.  or you can install the three in order and let each replace the others boot loader with it's own.12:57
Agent_bobmatters not how you get there.  just so you get there12:57
FSHeroSo... how would I have all distros in the boot menu? Follow the instructions on that forum post?12:58
FSHeroe.g. add the kernel and initrd lines for Fedora?12:58
Agent_bobFSHero the whole idea of a "boot loader" is to have a way to boot(generally multiple) operating system/s12:58
Agent_bobFSHero yes.   or if you let fedora install it's bootloader it will probably find both the winderz and the ubuntu system and configure it for you.   was would ubuntu if you installed it last13:00
Agent_bobs/was/as/ ^13:00
simihi, can i configure streamtuner to use amarok?13:00
=== jords__ is now known as jords
* Agent_bob uses lilo because grub is too week to boot his system.13:02
ActionParsnipi strongly reccomend fluxubuntu13:04
ActionParsnipit kicks ass13:04
Agent_bobActionParsnip :)13:04
Agent_bobless is more than more.13:04
ActionParsnipdefinately, its just slick13:05
ActionParsnipnone of the extra gumf13:05
Agent_bob:)      that's why i switched to bb    no bells and whistels.13:06
ActionParsnipbb?13:07
Agent_bob!info blackbox13:07
ActionParsnipoic, yeah same kinda deal13:07
Agent_bobyes13:07
Dr_willis!info jwm13:07
ActionParsnipcan you recommend a lightweight X based chat client13:07
zippo_Welcome back.... Can i get some help here?13:07
Dr_williswhy does it need tobe X based. :)13:07
Agent_bobbx ?13:08
ActionParsnipcos ie got an xserver so may as well use it13:08
Agent_bobping form zippo_13:08
zippo_yea13:09
Agent_bobnot cool zippo_       you don't uninvidedly start pming people.13:09
Agent_bobwhat do you want ?13:09
zippo_i've got some problems with compiz13:09
zippo_at my kubuntu 8.0413:09
zippo_I cannot turn on fusion-icon13:10
zippo_system tells me about i dont have it and thats impossible to make a cube and other effects13:10
zippo_...13:11
Dr_willisfusion-icon shouldent matter.13:11
zippo_someone can help me13:11
zippo_so what should i do to make this plugin workin?13:11
Dr_willis You just isntall the right compiz packages, and  run 'compiz --replace'13:11
zippo_it is working cuz i see it but i cannot change other plugins13:11
ActionParsnipif i add a line to my fstab how can I make it be rescanned please?13:11
Dr_willisyou did install the ccsm tool to configure things?13:11
FSHeroHi, sorry for not replying -- I was afk. I am interested in the 'theory' of bootloaders and GRUB. Could someone explain to me what exactly happens when I install GRUB when I am installing Ubuntu please?13:12
zippo_willis i didnt made it13:12
Dr_willisfusion-icon just lets you do a few little things. its not mandatory13:12
zippo_howto install ccsm tool?13:12
tim__hi all13:12
Dr_willisits in the package manager.13:12
Dr_williswithoug the ccsm tool you aint confgureing much at all.13:13
Dr_willis!compiz13:13
nubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:13
Dr_willisis the bot awake :)13:13
Dr_willisthere it is!13:13
ActionParsnip!irc13:13
simihi, can i configure streamtuner to use amarok?13:13
nubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines13:13
zippo_but i installed it damn13:13
zippo_it is not working13:13
Dr_willistype ccsm see if it runs13:13
Dr_willisYou do have the proper 3d drivers for your card installed?13:14
zippo_i typed i've got drivers13:16
zippo_listen i've got compiz turned on but i cannot change config13:16
zippo_anything13:16
zippo_I've got drivers, compiz full packet but i cannot do anything13:17
zippo_typed in terminal sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-menager13:17
Dr_willisthe ccsm tool is used to tweak the settings.  the command line command to run it is 'ccsm'   if the ccsm tool is NOT apearing to set/change settings. theres a bug in ccsm thats hanging about. i recall the wiki page having the fix for it.13:18
zippo_E: couldn't find ....13:18
Dr_willis!find ccsm13:18
Dr_willisyou are using hardy release of kubuntu?13:18
zippo_yes13:18
Dr_willis apt-cache search ccsm13:19
Dr_willis --------->   simple-ccsm - Simple Compizconfig settings manager13:19
zippo_Kubuntu 8.04 hary heron13:19
Dr_willisthe package name is  now 'simple-ccsm' for some reason13:19
zippo_thanks13:19
zippo_ill be back anyway xD13:19
zippo_i think ill get some more problems but thank you13:20
ActionParsniphey all13:20
zippo_and good luck13:20
Dr_willisfurther help in #compiz-fusion13:20
Dr_willis:)13:20
ActionParsnipI'm on lostirc13:20
ActionParsnipits pretty nice13:20
Dr_williswhen you typed ccsm it dident say 'ccsm not found..  do 'sudo apt-get install  ccsm-simple' ?13:20
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crszippo_: install compizconfig-settings-manager13:25
estanhello. anyone got xinerama dualhead in "extended desktop" mode working with intel built-in graphics on 8.04? i've been trying for days to get it to work with my laptop, my setup is like this: http://dose.se/dualhead.html13:25
estani'll send whoever helps me figure this out a brand new Areca ARC-1200 hardware RAID controller (if they want it), GPL/BSD drivers available.13:26
* estan hopes bribes like this are not against channel rules ;)13:27
ActionParsnipdecided to stay with the pidgin13:32
estanwohoo i think i got it working.13:32
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v6luranyone else having problems with compiz-fusion not working anymore? (hardy)13:41
crsv6lur: with eny errors?13:41
ActionParsnipv6lur: wouldnt know, i dont use it. I think its garbage13:41
v6lurit isn't exactly garbage... but some time ago i disabled it, because kopete kept crashing X13:42
v6lur(kopete acts fine with kwin)13:42
jonathan_hello! I've a question :)13:42
v6lura couple of days ago i noticed an update to c-f13:42
ActionParsnipwobbly windows and a cube desktop? not exactly productive stuff. Im not an eyecandy kinda guy13:43
v6lurand installed it, today thought i'd try it, but now it just doesn't start13:43
crsjonathan_: dont ask to ask, just ask :)13:43
v6lurno errors13:43
jonathan_i installed compiz without problems (wow, it's not very often something with linux don't causes errors :D)13:43
crsv6lur: there must be some errors. run in it terminal and see13:43
jonathan_and the desktop cube works when i'm using Cntrl+Alt+Left/Right13:43
v6luri ran 'compiz-decorator --replace'13:43
v6lurit just gave a blank line13:44
jonathan_but the cube fills out the whole screen and just rotates...13:44
ActionParsnipi thought it was compiz --replace13:44
v6lurhmm, maybe, i'll try13:44
ActionParsnipjonathan_: you need to change to setting to make it zoom out more13:45
jonathan_But i realy want to see thats a cube thats rotating when i'm using the desktop cube so it must be smaller13:45
jonathan_yes13:45
jonathan_thats what i want ;) but where?13:45
jonathan_i cant find it in the ccsm13:45
v6lurhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15985/13:45
ActionParsnipjonathan_: settings some place, I think its zoom level or something13:45
ActionParsnipjonathan_: its been agess since I used it (early beryl days)13:45
koljahello+13:46
ActionParsnipjonathan_: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=13313:47
jonathan_and whats the shortcut to access the cube without the neccessary to hold the keys Cntrl+Alt13:48
ActionParsnipjonathan_: no idea dude, I always used that13:48
koljawhere are you from?13:49
ActionParsnipkolja: me?13:49
koljayes :)13:49
ActionParsnipkolja: uk represent dude. you?13:50
koljaGermany :D13:50
theFATMANok, the window decorator is crashing, how do i restart it without rebooting?13:50
ActionParsniptheFATMAN: ctrl+alt+backspace13:50
theFATMANActionParsnip: thank you13:50
crsHmm, guys. my pri lang is not an english so i have a difficulties. Im busy on my covering letter and need some language assistance, any one able to check one sentence and say if it is correct?13:55
crssorry for off topic ;/13:55
ActionParsnipcrs: its quiet, go for it duder13:55
crsI want to say that I have got experience in using deb and rpm based distros as well as the ones which you build your own packages, like gentoo or LFS13:56
nosrednaekim" I have experience with .deb and .rpm based Linux distributions, as well as with those in which you build your own packages, such as gentoo and LFS "13:58
crsnosrednaekim: is 'in which YOU' a propar cv sentence? Should not it be more like: which requires building from source code by user?14:00
nosrednaekimoh...this is a CV? haha... yes, keep it 3rd person14:01
nosrednaekimreplace it with "in which the user builds their own packages"14:02
crsnosrednaekim: it is covering letter, but i think it should be 3rd p ;-)14:02
crsnosrednaekim: thanks a lot. ;-)14:03
crsIt is so difficult to star career in IT ;/14:10
crsstart*14:10
nosrednaekimyea14:10
psycohey guys, what do you recommend for a graphics web editor program?14:13
psycoby graphics I mean GUI (not just code)14:13
crspsyco: try quanta14:13
crspsyco: WYSIWYG you mean?14:13
nosrednaekimKomposer14:14
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psycoWYSIWYG??14:14
crspsyco: what you see is what you get14:14
nosrednaekimyeah... Komposer is wysiwyg14:14
JurgentjeHi... I've got this problem where 2 NTFS partitions on a USB-hard drive need to be remounted every time again (access denied) as su ... anyone knows how I could get this fixed so I don't have to sudo etc... every time?14:14
psycoohhh hahhaha ok14:14
psycoDOes it support code aswell?14:15
crspsyco: in wysiwyg editors instead of coding page you just 'draw' it...14:15
nosrednaekimJurgentje: systemsettings->advanced->discs and partitions14:15
brettim looking for a premade php site similar to phpBB can anyone here recommend somthing?14:15
psycoAh... But do some of them allow to use code?14:15
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nosrednaekimpsyco: I think most of them have a code mode14:16
psycoOK sweet.14:16
psycoTYhanks.,14:16
crspsyco: good luck :)14:17
v6lurhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=542186 <- this solved my problem with compiz-fusion :D14:17
v6lurthank root for ubuntuforums :P14:17
v6luri wonder is this reported as a bug14:18
crsanyone from Australia here?14:18
brettyeah im from aus14:19
nosrednaekimv6lur: yeah... its been reported14:19
v6lurgood to know14:19
ActionParsnipis there a 64bit java plugin for firefox14:19
nosrednaekimv6lur: no-one is fixing it though... AFAIK14:20
crsbrett: is 22.00 dollars as a hour rate ok down there? ;-)14:21
crsbrett: 23 exactly14:21
brettdepends what ur doin14:21
brettim getting about that14:21
crsbrett: is it enought to keep you alive? having car and stuff?14:21
brettyeah14:22
ActionParsnip!java14:22
nubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.14:22
crs!evil14:22
nubotuSorry, I don't know anything about evil, try looking on http://stdin.me.uk/bot/factoids.cgi14:22
brettwell i still live with my rents so i got plenty i excess cash14:22
crsshout points at !java. :>14:22
crsshould*14:22
ActionParsnipsun have a 64bit binary installer booya!14:29
theFATMANany kbfx users/ experts in the house?14:33
theFATMANany kbfx users/ experts in the house?14:35
ParaseleneWhat's the difference between 2.6.24-17-rt, and 2.6.24-17-generic?14:36
nosrednaekimrt is realtime...14:36
ParaseleneI've got a tonne of redundant entries in the grub bootloader I need to comment out14:36
Paraseleneand what's the difference?14:38
crsParaselene: different patch set probably14:39
nosrednaekimits low latency... mostly for Midi and multimedia processing14:39
Paraselenehmm, which should I boot into by default?14:40
ParaseleneI'm a relative newbie... so far I've tended to use the latest version, generic build14:40
nosrednaekimgeneric14:41
brettlol i break kubuntu on a regular basis14:41
nosrednaekim-rt was probably installed  if you installed ubuntustudio14:41
jeroen-anyone has also strange updates today?14:41
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ercan_hi, anyone about?15:05
nosrednaekimyep15:06
ercan_oops, wanted to ask about kde4 but just saw the topic15:06
ercan_thanks anyway15:06
shane2perudoes anyone know how I set kontact to alert me on the desktop when I have a calendar planned event?15:16
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: you should be able to set that when you create a new event...15:19
shane2peruOdd-rationale: yes, I turn on the reminder, and it doesn't seem to alert me on the desktop.15:19
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: you want like an OSD?15:19
shane2peruis OSD what Amarok uses?  I want a bell to sound, and a little icon notification to pop up, saying appointment. :)15:20
shane2peruok, I gotta run for now, by the way Odd-rationale I'm gettint my Arch all setup downloading the kdemod-complete now :)15:22
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: kdemod-complete ?!15:22
shane2peruOdd-rationale: isn't that what ya recommended?15:23
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: that's too much... just install kdemod and install what you need on top...15:23
Odd-rationaleif you are still in the donwload stage, you can ctrl+c to cancel...15:23
shane2peruOdd-rationale: ha ha, oh well, I guess I will get the full desktop experience, lol15:23
shane2peruOdd-rationale: yeah, I set it to only download, I will install later.15:23
Odd-rationaleshane2peru: well, good luck!15:24
shane2peruOdd-rationale: ok, I gotta run, catch ya later15:24
ChrisMirHi, I have ubuntu installed on sda3 partition with /boot on sda1 (and swap on sda2). I want kubuntu installed on sda5. What should I do with the boot partition? Can I use sda1 as boot partition for Kubuntu, while still being able to startup ubuntu on sda3?15:35
nosrednaekimChrisMir: yeah15:37
nosrednaekimKububtu should detect ubuntu15:37
ChrisMirI understand that. But that was not the question15:37
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ChrisMirCurrently I am on kubuntu's live cd, preparing for installation. When preparing partitions I should sda1 to be the boot partition. It forces me to format that partition.15:39
jaakkomeum, this is not exactly a kubuntu question, but is amd64 the right build for a laptop with an amd sempron processor?15:39
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ichigo_nlwhere do i find the intrepid sources15:40
t1_Anyone want to help a newbe do wireless15:41
pimt1_ simply post your question15:41
nosrednaekimChrisMir: yeah.... its will replace it with Kubuntu's.. which will be equivalent15:42
t1_I have an inspiron 5315 I need to set up wirless that is in it15:42
ChrisMirnosrednaekim: But will the kernel images of ubuntu not disappear?15:42
t1_I am on kbuntu15:42
pimwhat wirelesscard is in it t1_15:43
t1_hol on15:44
t1_I will check15:44
nosrednaekimChrisMir: nope... they won't15:45
ChrisMirThe ubuntu image are on /boot, right? and therefor at sda115:46
ChrisMirif I format sda1, I assume the images will be gone15:46
nosrednaekimI THINK they are in / , not /boot15:46
ChrisMirah, let me see15:46
nosrednaekimah... actually, no15:46
nosrednaekimyou are right15:46
nosrednaekimthey are in /boot15:46
ChrisMirexactly15:46
nosrednaekimnasty....15:47
nosrednaekimcan you tell it not to install a bootloader?15:47
nosrednaekimor put /boot on / and don't install grub15:47
ChrisMirI dont think the bootloader itself is the problem15:47
veccioraHow can I add init string 3 in KPPP?15:48
nosrednaekimok... then I would leave Kubuntu's /boot on its / partition15:48
ChrisMiryeah15:48
t1_I need to install the broad com wirless extentions I think15:48
ChrisMirBut no real sense now for the sda1 partition ;-)15:49
nosrednaekimtrue :)15:49
nosrednaekim!broadcom15:49
nubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx15:49
veccioraKPPP allow me only to input 2 init string.15:50
veccioraSorry for my terrible english.15:50
nosrednaekimvecciora: what is your native language?15:51
veccioraIndonesia.15:51
Daisuke_Ido!my15:51
nubotuSorry, I don't know anything about my, try looking on http://stdin.me.uk/bot/factoids.cgi15:51
veccioraWhy after dialing up Network Connection still not available at the panel?15:53
michael_hello15:53
veccioraBut I can connect to Internet.15:54
michael_How do i get to the Ubuntu page?15:54
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veccioraStepbuntu15:55
ads_hi   can u give me a command i can execute from bash to find which version of ubuntu im running..   feisty,hardy  etc   thanks15:55
nosrednaekimubuntu page? www.ubuntu.org15:55
nosrednaekimads_: lsb_release -a15:55
ads_thank you nosrednaekim15:55
yetithe mozilla-acroread doesn't seem to work with the firefox 3 beta 5 included in 8.0415:55
yetidoes anybody know how to make it work?15:56
nosrednaekimuse firefox-215:57
simiyeti: you install from adobe web site?15:57
simitry thast one15:57
veccioraAre Konqueror better than Firefox?15:59
t1_I have two eithernet cards in my loaptop an I would like the wireless to work15:59
t1_or both at the sam time16:00
t1_lol16:00
t1_jk no need to duplex16:00
simivecciora: i beliva you can use konqueror for fast browsing but firefox is better for complex pages16:00
nosrednaekimkonqueror is horrific for dial-up though16:00
fale_are there some packager?16:01
veccioraWhy?16:01
t1_i like it though16:01
t1_its ok16:01
nosrednaekimvecciora: not sure....16:01
nosrednaekimt1_: figured out your wireless?16:01
t1_its not as feature rich as ff16:01
t1_nope16:01
t1_lol16:01
nosrednaekimt1_: you could always use ndiswrapper16:01
t1_its a broad com in an acer16:01
t1_cool how?16:02
nosrednaekimget the XP driver16:02
t1_o ok16:02
nosrednaekimblacklist the broadcom driver, and use ndiswrapper with the XP driver16:02
t1_du16:02
t1_great idea16:02
t1_its funny because16:02
t1_I just did th4e oposit with box16:02
t1_back and forth thats me16:03
t1_lol16:03
nosrednaekim:)16:03
t1_!)16:03
rophyguysssss....i have installed that sound converter and it's not working ..not opening could anyone tellme why16:03
nosrednaekimwhich sound converter?16:04
t1_thanks nosednaekim16:04
veccioraHow can I change the panel color in KDE4?16:07
veccioraIn KDE35 I can make it transparent.16:07
nosrednaekimvecciora: you have to theme it.... there are themes on www.kde-look.org16:08
crsvecciora: rmb on menu and go thru options16:08
rophyKDE$ sucks16:08
rophy4*16:08
nosrednaekimcrs: thats kde3 :P16:08
veccioraKDE4 usability is not good as KDE3.16:09
fale_vecciora: I strongly disagree16:09
rophyyes KDE4 is a mess16:09
fale_vecciora: which version have you tried?16:09
veccioraMaybe I wrong?16:09
rophyanyone know anything abt the soundconverter?16:10
veccioraIts like when I say Ubuntu is completely crap.16:10
crsnosrednaekim: Oh, yes, sorry. I have missread that :)16:10
rophyummm ubuntu is nice ...16:11
BluesKajrophy, what are you trying to convert ?16:11
rophyram to mp316:11
veccioraIts funny when I like something and try to hate it.16:13
BluesKajram?16:13
rophyreal media16:13
BluesKajoh16:13
veccioraI mean love it but hate it too.16:13
BluesKajk3b will audio conversion if you have the right plugins16:14
BluesKajdo16:14
rophyi 'll try this16:14
rophybut i dont want to burn a cd just conversion16:15
rophyis k3b fit for it16:15
ichigo_nl!adeptfix16:15
nubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:15
sigma_1234kde 4.1 packages available anyone?16:16
ChrisMirWill 4.1 be much better? Because I've just installed the kde4 remix (4.0.4) and I don't like what I see16:17
adz21cChrisMir: it is a lot better16:18
BluesKajrophy, no need to burn a cd ,open k3b , just choose new audio cd project , and you'll see a blue curvy arrow beside the burn logo , click on the arrow , then choose what you want to convert to in the drop down dialog box16:18
phoenix_when using LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4 as a prefix to an executable it doesn't seem to see my libraries anymore, is there another thing I need to add to it for it to look in /lib for the object it needs?16:19
nosrednaekimsigma_1234: nope16:19
farhad_hfhi all16:19
nosrednaekimphoenix_: 2.4? do you seriously have a 2.4 kernel?16:19
adz21cChrisMir: but it depends what your issues with 4.0.* are as to whether you consider it an improvement i guess16:19
phoenix_nope, but thats what the walkthrough said for getting this to start.16:20
phoenix_really old executable16:20
nosrednaekimbetter do 2.616:20
farhad_hfon kubuntu hardy with 512mb ram and nvidia gforce fx5500(256mb) : i installed vga card and compiz, but compiz is laggy and so slow. on utsy i had no problems . what can i do?16:20
phoenix_okay, same error still16:21
ChrisMiradz21c: of course. But it is not about specific issues. I've just installed it, and I can't get a good feeling about it. There seems to be many things missing, and a lot is still kde316:21
phoenix_Before I did LD_ASSUME it gave me this:   symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference16:21
nosrednaekimfarhad_hf: did you install the nvidia driver?16:21
phoenix_Now it gives me: ./wolfgl: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory16:21
nosrednaekimok... you need to find what package has "libm:16:22
nosrednaekim"libm"16:22
farhad_hfnosrednaekim: farhad@Kubuntu-desktop:~$ glxinfo | grep directdirect rendering: Yes16:22
nosrednaekimfarhad_hf: i see16:22
nosrednaekimyou should probably ask in #compiz-fusion16:23
adz21cChrisMir: well thats just going to take time to catch up feature wise. They have added a lot back in thats missing from kde3, but i don't think its totally there yet, small bits and bobs are not there, nothing that I personally use I think, well, except "3rd party" apps, like kaffeine, which thats not really the kde teams fault16:23
farhad_hfnosrednaekim: i tried to install the sh file from nvidia site, i did it, and then xserver didnt start!16:23
nosrednaekimright... don't use that one :P16:23
farhad_hfnosrednaekim: then i installed from the repositories. nvidia-glx-new16:24
nosrednaekimyep..good16:24
adz21cChrisMir: and the stuff thats new has improved a lot to, specifically plasma, adding new panels, resizing them etc is a lot easier (and i would say more flexible than kde3)16:25
farhad_hfBut the problem is not solved16:25
adz21cChrisMir: also the "knewstuff" has been put to good use, getting new plasma themes, wallpapers, kopete emoticons and some other bits and bobs is as easy as a few clicks again16:26
nosrednaekimgo through the plugins you have enabled... one of them might be takeing alot of graphics power16:26
ChrisMiradz21c: I think I will keep this install on a hold and install 8.04 with kde3 on another partion. I really need to setup a productive desktop first16:26
adz21cChrisMir: yea, that makes sense16:26
nosrednaekimChrisMir: might want to wait for the 4.1beta packages anyway...16:26
nosrednaekimthey should be coming sometime soon16:26
adz21cChrisMir: although I have to say I been doing trunk builds of kde 4.1 and I don't have much need for kde3 apps16:27
adz21cChrisMir: and like nosrednaekim says the 4.1 beta packages are on the horizon16:27
ChrisMirnosrednaekim: I understand. That's why I dont throw awat the partition. But I need to be on the roll on monday and I have a lot to install still16:27
ChrisMiraway*16:27
farhad_hfMy ALT+F2 shortcut doesnt work. whats the problem with this one? (kde3.5.9)16:27
nosrednaekimfarhad_hf: compiz sometimes blocks that16:28
ChrisMiradz21c: It is not only the applications but more the polish. I hate it when the desktop sits in the way of my tasks16:28
farhad_hfnosrednaekim: with has the problem with kwin too16:29
adz21cChrisMir: can u give me an example?16:29
ChrisMiradz21c: As we speak, I tried to go to system settings, then Desktop, BOOM crash. :)16:30
nosrednaekim0,.o16:31
adz21cChrisMir: oh ok lol, never used 4.0.3/4 so i don't know stability for that. I rarely get crashes with this so you might be a bit more impressed by 4.1 for usability and stability16:31
rophyi ahave faild with k3b ,BluesKaj16:31
ChrisMiradz21c: But it is not about this crash, nor about any application. On this old computer I use quite a lot of software, kde and other stuff. I've got the idea/feeling that if I install these on the kde4 remix, I risk hitting more issues and small quircks. With kde3 I dont16:33
farhad_hfnosrednaekim:  yes! u were right, plugins are taking alot of graphic power16:35
ubuntuSalut lé girls16:35
ubuntuSalut lé girls16:35
ubuntuSalut lé girls16:35
ubuntuSalut lé girls16:35
ubuntuSalut lé girls16:35
adz21cChrisMir: well yea i am not saying to use kde4 as production desktop at mo, i mean i agree the 4.0.* series isn't nice (hence i lived on trunk since it came out) and I wouldn't use a beta desktop where you really need it, but i think once 4.1 comes out of better you should be ok, personally16:35
ubuntuI LOVE GIRLS16:35
JoshOvkiubuntu: shut up or get out16:36
BluesKajdon't you mean "les girls"16:36
ubuntuwhy ?16:36
adz21cChrisMir: meant beta not better :P16:36
SlimeyPete"les filles", surely16:36
ubuntuWe can't speak here  ?16:36
JoshOvkiubuntu: you can speak ontopic16:36
ubuntuOè lé filles !16:36
rophywow the room has finaly became exciting16:36
JoshOvkiand not spamming16:36
JoshOvki!english16:36
nubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat16:36
ubuntuje spam pa16:36
ubuntuALr TG16:36
BluesKajubuntu , this room is about kubuntu16:37
asdfehello all16:37
ubuntuyes16:37
ubuntuHello16:37
nosrednaekimhello asdfe16:37
asdfei installed kubuntu latest to mac, cannot boot16:37
ubuntuUt's for f****16:37
asdfewhat to do?16:37
ubuntuNOthing16:37
ubuntuYou can suicid you16:37
rophylol@ubuntu16:37
ubuntu=)16:37
asdfecannot boot to kubuntu, mac works16:37
nosrednaekim!mac16:37
nubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE16:37
ChrisMiradz21c: I will sure keep an eye on it. I even think if 4.1 packages were ready now, I would use them. But I can;t take the risk waiting much longer ;-)16:38
asdfenon16:38
nosrednaekimthanks jpds16:38
nosrednaekimasdfe: thats not it... hmm16:38
Deepthought'ta geul, ubuntu16:38
asdfeI don't see the boot loader, just as usual16:39
rophyta geul ?! what's ta geul a new opearting sys16:39
* pauljw is away: I'm no longer listening, so why are you still typing??16:39
adz21cChrisMir: well yea, i mean if you need to get going u need to get going u know, just wanted to reassure you kde4 isn't a mess ...  4.0.x was just never designed to be used as a production desktop thats all16:39
BluesKajrophy, don't encourage silliness16:39
bazhang!away > pauljw16:39
nosrednaekimasdfe: I don't think grub works with macs.. but i'm no expert16:39
bazhangDeepthought, english please16:39
jpdsbazhang: hmm, no bot16:39
nosrednaekim!bot16:40
nubotuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)16:40
rophyBluesKaj: juat allowing somefresh air to flow16:40
rophyjust*16:40
BluesKajstick your head outside16:40
ChrisMiradz21c: I understand (btw, it wasn't me who said kde4 is a mess)16:40
bazhangrophy please stay on topic16:40
jpdsbazhang: or not..16:40
bazhangjpds, :)16:40
Deepthoughtrophy: it means shut up in french16:41
forsakensoul1hello I've been having some problems with the network configurations16:41
adz21cChrisMir: wasn't it? fair enough lol, well i atleast got that impression from what you were saying, i mean i believe you did say you didn't like where it was going16:41
bazhangDeepthought, please stop16:41
Deepthoughtbazhang: sorry16:41
forsakensoul1I'm almost sure I've put all the ip's and everything in their place16:41
forsakensoul1but it still doesn't work16:41
asdfenosrednaekim: ok, just found out that I need to press th eopt key to select disk16:41
asdfereport back soon with results16:41
rophythanx for being so welcoming ...( u r basterds in korean)16:41
forsakensoul1I have 2 lan cards with two different network providers16:41
ChrisMiradz21c: Thought I did say I didnt like what I was seeing, merely reflecting for my situation.16:41
forsakensoul1could that be a problem16:41
bazhangrophy, no swearing please16:42
adz21cChrisMir: ok, my bad then :-)16:42
nosrednaekimforsakensoul1: that certainly makes things complicated :P16:42
forsakensoul1ohh ....16:42
* pauljw is back (gone 00:03:22)16:42
rophywasnt a swear was a joke16:42
forsakensoul1well I told me friend to get himself of router like me but :D16:42
bazhangrophy, these are family friendly channels; please not even as a joke16:42
bazhang!away > pauljw16:43
rophyokai I am sorry :S16:43
rophyshall i go outta the class16:43
ChrisMirThe 3d window switcher I saw a screenshot of, is that 4.1?16:43
forsakensoul1nosrednaekim is there any documentation I can follow to configure then16:43
forsakensoul1?16:43
melkart(konqueror 3.5.8) when i go to http://www.politikpla.net/forum/index.php  i am being told that i need to have javascript enabled... but i *do* have it enabled...16:44
adz21cChrisMir: yea, theres 2 3d types16:44
Deepthoughtbazhang; it was meant for that ubuntu troll; but you' re right; better not pay attention at all; and when rophy asked I just figured I'd answer his question... But I' refrain from stuff like that from now; it just messes up a nice channel... ;-)  forgive me16:44
adz21cChrisMir: one is Vista like, the other has them on like a conveyer belt type thing16:44
bazhangDeepthought, thanks16:44
forsakensoul1has anyone had experience with setting the network configs on a pc with 2 lan cards and 2 providers ?16:45
ChrisMiradz21c: Cool. Just wanted to know not looking for them in my current installation ;-)16:45
asobianyone way to check if a maxtor onetouch 4 is asleep and if not, how to make it sleep?16:45
nosrednaekimasobi: say "One Touch! are you awake?"16:45
rophyso i am the only bad here16:45
rophylol16:45
nosrednaekimand if it says "yes master" then its awake16:45
nosrednaekimbut if it says "shut up my slave" then better ut it to sleep :P16:46
bazhangrophy, please take chat to #kubuntu-offtopic as this channel is for support only16:46
asobiis this #kubuntu-joke now?16:46
nosrednaekim:)16:46
adz21cChrisMir: :-) it is quite a neat feature. KWin is catching up with compiz on eye candyness ... although some probably wont consider it there till it has "the cube" ... although I hate the cube so i dont care :P16:46
nosrednaekimadz21c: the cube is a SOC project16:46
forsakensoul1has anyone had experience with setting the network configs on a pc with 2 lan cards and 2 providers ?16:47
rophyokai okai i 'll shut up in french16:47
adz21cnosrednaekim: ok, thats cool16:47
ChrisMiradz21c: the cube is only there to show off with your friends, but it aint really usefull16:47
bazhangforsakensoul1, have heard of it; not an easy task though--will check for you in a moment16:47
adz21cChrisMir: agreed16:47
forsakensoul1ok thank you16:47
bazhangforsakensoul1, it this gutsy or hardy16:48
romunov_maaan16:48
romunov_i can't write to my FAT32 partition... again16:48
forsakensoul1well we're trying to make them on gutsy so we can update to hardy because we have no spare disks in the moment to install hardy16:48
Odd-rationalethere are a couple features that would be nice to have in kwin: the ability to be able to tab windows together, and to be able to combine/separate workspaces.16:48
ChrisMirbrb16:49
forsakensoul1is it easier to se it up on hardy ?16:49
bazhangforsakensoul1, you have internet connection though? you can upgrade via the net without doing the 2 lan 2 provider trick you know :)16:49
forsakensoul1we;;16:49
forsakensoul1well ... I'm in win in the moment16:49
forsakensoul1:D16:49
psycoIs there a way to get the Windows font pack for linux??16:49
bazhang!fonts | psyco16:50
Odd-rationalepsyco: try msttcorefonts16:50
nubotupsyco: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer16:50
zippo_hello16:50
psycoThank you ^^16:50
zippo_can someone tell me how to install codex for mp3 format?16:50
Odd-rationale!restricted | zippo_16:50
zippo_becouse i cannot play some music16:50
nubotuzippo_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:50
bazhangzippo_, kubuntu-restricted-extras16:50
zippo_why?16:50
forsakensoul1zippo_ there you have the needed codecs for mp3 and avi and other "restricted" formats16:51
bazhangzippo_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:51
Odd-rationalezippo_: kubuntu-restricted-extras will give you mp3 playback16:51
zippo_?16:51
zippo_thanks16:51
forsakensoul1bazhang .. so what is the difference between the settings in hardy and gusty16:52
bazhangzippo_, you may also need to get win32codecs from www.medibuntu.org16:52
bazhangforsakensoul1, hang on a sec :)16:52
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648646 forsakensoul1 please read this first16:55
forsakensoul1ok16:55
forsakensoul1well bazhang we don't have a modem ... no router ... just two lan cards ...16:59
bazhangforsakensoul1, then it is cable or what?16:59
forsakensoul1cable16:59
forsakensoul12 actually :D17:00
digitalheadI'm having some trouble getting my Olympus FE-210 to work on Kubuntu 7.10. It tries to initialize for a few minutes and then digikam has an error saying that it failed to list the files. Any help on this?17:00
AzzmodanWhat's the best way to configure my gtk apps to blend into kde4?17:00
bazhangforsakensoul1, it is called ethernet bonding;that it is cable should not matter17:00
bazhangAzzmodan, which app17:00
forsakensoul1well ....17:01
AzzmodanAll apps really, but xchat is the one I have open at all times :)17:01
AzzmodanI was under the impression there where some "engine" thing sor something for gtk so that gtk apps would use kde widgets and such17:01
nosrednaekim!gtk17:02
nubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI17:02
bazhangAzzmodan, apart from coding them  all in qt4, you may just have to suffer (or switch to kde versions) :)17:02
nosrednaekim!gtk-kde17:02
nubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk-kde, try looking on http://stdin.me.uk/bot/factoids.cgi17:02
nosrednaekimsorry stdin :P17:02
nosrednaekimbazhang: no.. there is a gtk theme17:02
stdinmsg the bot, please ;)17:02
bazhangnosrednaekim, for qt3 iirc17:02
nosrednaekimbazhang: for kde 4 as well17:03
nosrednaekimstdin: haha I will :)17:03
bazhangnosrednaekim, ah thanks-->remember the name?17:03
nosrednaekimgtk-qt-engine-kde417:03
bazhangthanks nosrednaekim17:04
AzzmodanDoes it happen to be in the normal ubuntu repositories?17:04
bazhangAzzmodan, you see that?17:04
nosrednaekimAzzmodan: it is :)17:04
AzzmodanThanks17:04
beneditohi ;) how are you17:04
nosrednaekimhello benedito17:05
AzzmodanIs there a way to always run a certain app as root, a passwordless sudo like something?17:05
nosrednaekimno17:06
AzzmodanI don't believe that :)17:06
nosrednaekimwell... its be very hacky... and not secure at all17:06
beneditoim brasil ;)17:06
mammad81hi17:06
mammad81i'm17:06
nosrednaekim!pt17:06
mammad81i habe a problem with kubuntu17:06
nubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.17:06
nosrednaekimwhat is it mammad81?17:07
AzzmodanIt can be secure if it generates a proper image of the application that is to be ran as root17:07
digitalheadis anybody else having trouble getting kubuntuforums to load?17:07
mammad81can somebody help me17:07
AzzmodanI need to run synergy as root or else it'll stutter like hell :(17:07
nosrednaekimAzzmodan: you can start it on boot.... put it in rc.local17:07
mammad81i instalied kde in ubuntu17:07
nosrednaekimunless it needs to be started with X17:07
mammad81and work successfull17:08
nosrednaekim!enter | mammad8117:08
nubotumammad81: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:08
mammad81but then i cant run synaptic un gnome17:08
AzzmodanI think it has to be ran with X17:08
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nosrednaekimAzzmodan: you can add a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d then17:08
mammad81ok nubtu:17:08
AzzmodanWill that fire it up as root?17:08
nosrednaekimI THINK... they are run as root, not sure17:09
bazhangmammad81, please describe the issue on line with some clarity thanks :)17:09
AzzmodanI'll try that then, thanks17:09
nosrednaekimAzzmodan: they have special conventions though... make sure you google how to make one..17:09
AzzmodanHaving to enter my sudo password to run synergy is really not an option seeing how synergy is the thing that allows me to type to this machine :)17:09
mammad81 installed kde in ubuntu succseffully/ but now i cant running synaptic in gnome17:10
nosrednaekimmammad81: does it give an error?17:10
bazhangmammad81, you can use synaptic or adept (kde)17:10
Azzmodanmammad81, I think it uses adept by default for kde17:10
nosrednaekimI think he's haveing the aptfix problem..17:10
mammad81yes  synaptic in gnome / now i put the error/17:11
mammad81E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.17:11
mammad81E: _cache->open() failed, please report.17:11
nosrednaekimyes... ok17:11
nosrednaekim!aptfix | mammad8117:11
nubotumammad81: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:11
darkouamsalu ya qqn qui parle francais ici ???17:11
bazhangmammad81, run that command also see the bot link17:11
nosrednaekim!fr17:11
nubotuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr17:11
mammad81i do that, but that command was this output /17:13
mammad81Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...17:13
mammad81update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-17-generic17:13
mammad81gzip: stdout: No space left on device17:13
mammad81update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-17-generic17:13
mammad81dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 117:13
bazhang!paste | mammad8117:13
nubotumammad81: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)17:13
benedito im not speech inglês, im speech brasileiro (brazil) ;)17:13
bazhang!br17:14
nubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.17:14
bazhangbenedito, see above :)17:14
Azzmodanso now that I instakked gtk-qt-etc how do I tell gtk to use the new engine?17:14
mammad81i'm soory , its my fist time that using IRC &LONversation17:14
beneditoim speech +/- inglês17:14
bazhangbenedito, type /join #ubuntu-br :)17:15
beneditowhat ?17:16
beneditoyou not speech brasileiro ?17:17
nosrednaekimmammad81: BTW, your disc is full..17:17
bazhangbenedito, type /join #kubuntu-br17:17
beneditofull is you17:17
mammad81bazhang:whats'that17:17
bazhangmammad81, he does not speak english17:18
beneditook ;) people bye17:18
Jsn0327I'm having a very hard time trying to add my printer in hardy.  Can anyone give me a hand?17:18
mammad81so now, what am idoing?17:19
Jsn0327I went in to system settings/printers and went into administration mode, but when i goto add "printer/class" is greyed out17:19
beneditopeople im not speak iglês, good bye ;)17:20
beneditoboa tarde pra toodos ;)17:21
psycodoes anyone eleses firefox 3 have no scroll bar??17:31
bazhangpsyco, which page17:32
psycobazhang: Like ALL of firefox. There is no scroll bar at the side17:33
psycofirefox 3 beta 517:33
ubuntuhola17:33
bazhangpsyco, screenshot?17:33
bazhang!es | ubuntu17:33
psycosec17:34
nubotuubuntu: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.17:34
psycoXD17:34
ubuntuGracias17:34
sinakhi. I just installed kubuntu 8.04 and I'm having problems with the number of desktops. I cannot change it17:34
bazhangsinak, in compiz or normal17:35
sinakboth17:35
bazhangsinak, two separate issues17:35
sinakmm..17:36
sinaklets begin from compiz17:36
bazhangcompiz: ccsm-->general-->virtual horizontal desktops set to 4 sinak17:36
osmanhi everybody17:36
bazhangsinak, for the cube17:36
osmanI have a problem17:37
bazhangosman, need a question :)17:37
osmanwhen I log out, black screen appears and nothing else17:37
nehuenwena..17:37
psycoOk here is my firefox, the scrollbar at the side is not there: http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6628/nscrollhq4.png17:37
bazhangnehuen, english please17:37
osmanI have to ctrl+alt+delete17:38
osmankdm doesn't come when I log out17:38
osmanjust a black screen17:38
bazhangpsyco, what about when you disable compiz17:38
psycoI'll try.17:39
sinakbazhang number of desktops is disabled17:39
sinakI cannot change it17:39
psycostill no scroll bar....17:40
bazhangsinak, you got 3d drivers for your card?17:40
sinakyes17:40
bazhangpsyco, you quit and restarted ff as well?17:40
sinakglxgears says 5500 fps17:40
psycoYup17:40
bazhangsinak, you got ccsm installed?17:40
sinakyes17:41
bazhangsinak, what is its name17:41
sinakcompizconfig settings manager17:41
bazhangsinak, what about alt-f2 compiz --replace what does that do17:41
bazhangpsyco, how did you disable compiz17:43
sinakIt did something like restart X17:43
psycoI ran kwin --replace17:44
bazhangsinak, something like? was there a brief flicker?17:44
sinakthe screen went black for a sec and return as usual17:44
bazhangsinak, and advanced desktop effects manager is okay now?17:45
bazhangpsyco, I had that before; iirc it is a prob with compiz and ff17:46
sinakno. when I'm going to Desktop Size tab, i cant change Number of Desktops17:46
psycobazhang: Alright, i just wanted to know, its not a problem with me17:46
bazhangsinak, not number17:47
bazhangsinak, horizontal virtual17:47
bazhang!netsplit17:47
TimS:(17:48
sinakyes17:48
sinakhorizontal virtual is to 4 bazhang17:48
bazhangsinak, you were looking at the wrong option17:48
TimSubotu was on that :o17:48
sinakand vertical virtual is 4 too17:48
bazhangsinak you cant change the other unless you want a 24 sided cube :)17:48
bazhangsinak, set vert virt to 117:49
sinakno I don't want this :-)17:49
jaakkomeis there a way to detach a started application from the konsole session it was started on?17:49
bazhangjaakkome, in xserver or not17:49
jaakkomee.g. I have started kopete from the konsole17:50
bazhangjaakkome, add &17:50
sinakbazhang i have set horiz virt to 4, verti virt to 117:50
jaakkomeaa17:50
jaakkomethanks!17:50
sinakbut still i cannot change number of desktops17:50
bazhangsinak now try alt f2 kwin --replace then alt f2 compiz --replace once more17:51
bazhangsinak, you want some really huge cube is that it?17:51
sinaknot huge cube17:51
sinaki want 4 desktops17:51
sinaka 4 sized cube17:52
bazhangnormal cube then :)17:52
sinakalt f2 doesn't work now :-(17:52
bazhangthen in konsole kwin --replace17:53
pteagueis there a way to print out a pdf to a graphic file?17:54
amoweb_hi chan!17:55
sinakbazhang thanks a lot!17:55
sinakit works!17:55
ubuntu_Salut17:55
bazhangsinak append & to stop it from going away when you close konsole17:55
jaakkomeI have a hotkey bound to start konsole with hotkeys, but I can't get it to start at my home directory instead of /17:56
ubuntu_Hi !17:56
tonsam2salut tout le monde17:56
ubuntu_Nobody foor answer to Me ?17:56
ubuntu_euh un françai17:56
bazhangjaakkome, it always starts at /17:56
ubuntu_Salut17:56
jaakkomeI tried "ScreenSaver=konsole /home/jaakkome" in my hotkeys.conf, but doesn't seem to work17:56
bazhang!fr17:56
amoweb_I've a little probem with KDE i can't add a virtual desktop...17:56
jaakkomehmm17:56
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bazhangubuntu_, /join #kubuntu-fr17:57
jaakkomebut my konsole button in the Kpanel starts konsole at the home dir17:57
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bazhangjaakkome, my mistake; always at home17:58
bazhangamoweb_, go into ccsm general virtual horizontal desktops and set there17:59
jaakkomewell the one started by the hotkey doesn't17:59
NekosolTeraDyneAnyone know what the link to the freenode registration tutorial is?17:59
bazhang!register18:00
tininmy kdm screen is bigger than my desktop, do you know where could I configure this?18:00
NekosolTeraDynebazhang: the bot is currently offline18:01
NekosolTeraDyneAh, here it is: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering18:02
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jonathan_i just installed kde 4.0.418:04
jonathan_but kcontrol still says that i'm using kde 3.5.918:04
jonathan_i think i have to change it in kdm18:04
jonathan_but how do i do this?18:04
amoweb_bazhang: what's ccsm?18:04
luca218:04
elaine_how do i get the flash wmv etc plugins installed for firefox?18:05
jonathan_amoweb_: ccsm is the control panel for compiz fusion18:05
tininelaine_ I recommend you to use the media player connectivity extension18:07
tininso you can launch each tipe of video with the player you want18:08
ign0ramushey all... having some java problems... seems i have the icedtea-java7-bin package installed, and I cannot remove it18:09
amoweb_i can't open the compiz fusion control panel18:09
DarthFrogDoes anyone know how to import bookmarks, etc. from konqueror in KDE3 to konqueror in KDE4?18:09
amoweb_I just activated the 3D interface with the system menu -> Desktop Effect18:09
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tininalso you can insall the latest beta of Adobe flas player downloading it here the "Plugin for Linux (TAR.GZ, 3.73 MB)" elaine_ just extract and run it from a command window: ./flashplayerinstaler...18:10
tininhttp://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html18:11
tininif you get some errors with the  extensions check Compatibility just ask, theres a workaround for that elaine_18:12
jhutchinsOf course, that completely breaks package management as far as apt is concerned.18:12
AzzmodanDolphin doesn't seem to be generating thumbnails for my pictures/movies, am I missing something?18:13
ign0ramus!java18:13
ign0ramus!info java18:13
AzzmodanIs it possible to have dolphin use double clicks instead of single?18:13
tininno bot yet18:13
ign0ramusoic...18:13
ign0ramusdoes anyone know how to symlink java jre to firefox 2?18:13
DragnslcrAzzmodan- System Settings -> Keyboard18:14
DragnslcrAzzmodan- it's a global KDE setting18:14
tininfirefox 2? why?18:14
ign0ramustinin: why what?18:14
tininwhy don't you use ff318:15
DragnslcrAzzmodan- In the Mouse part of Keyboard & Mouse, that is18:15
ign0ramustinin: because only 3 of my 29 add-ons work, and its still beta18:15
tininhaha18:15
bazhangamoweb_, compizconfig-settings-manager18:16
DragnslcrIt isn't actually beta anymore18:16
DragnslcrRC1 came out this week18:16
AzzmodanDragnslcr, I found it, thanks18:16
tininI only foun one that does not work for me, so I use it under wine when needed ign0ramus18:16
tininif you get some errors with the  extensions check Compatibility just ask, theres a workaround ign0ramus18:16
ign0ramusdragnslcr: you are correct; but its still not a stable release, and add-on support is severely lacking18:16
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DragnslcrI've found all of the later beta versions to be as stable as FF218:17
ign0ramustinin: well, the stable release will be out sometime in June, so I can wait... there's still stuff to be worked out18:17
DragnslcrAs for add-on support, that's the add-on developers' faults, not Mozilla's18:17
ign0ramusbut upon a "apt-get upgrade" i accidentally installed ff3, and it broke all add-on support in ff2 - i had to delete the extensions.rdf file in ~/.mozilla to get them back18:18
tininabout:config -> new boolean -> extensions.checkCompatibility -> false18:18
ign0ramusdragnslcr: i'm not blaming mozilla for that, but i'd rather wait until i can use my add-ons.  it's like v4l2 and flash-based apps... its not the fault of linux, but it still sucks that they aren't compatible18:19
ign0ramustinin: that doesn't work for most add-ons, plus it makes your browser even more unstable18:20
ign0ramustinin: it did work for adblock plus on beta 5, though ;)18:20
tininwell, for me it works for my addons18:20
tininbut yeah, firefox has always been unstable for me, maybe because I tend to force it ;)18:21
ign0ramusya think? :)18:21
tininmaybe its my fault18:21
ign0ramusi18:21
ign0ramusim just hoping that Flash10 will stop freezing up FF at random.  that would be sweet18:21
tininwow18:22
tininno18:22
tininit sucks18:22
ign0ramusits beta18:22
tininbut runs a bit faster18:22
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ign0ramusi tried it, and it completely crashed ff so many times, i went back to flash9, which at least only freezes.  that's better, i guess, right?18:22
ign0ramusalright, i'm going to google some more to get my jre plugin working.18:23
tininff has always crashed for me if I open more han 2 windows with flas, no matter the version, but I think it is because fo some addon I've got (flashblock, Addblock, MP connectivity...)18:23
ign0ramusthanks for the converstation18:23
ign0ramustinin: could be... i have the same issue18:24
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tininbecause if you use it without extensions (safe mode) it runs well18:24
graxaim[14:31] --> root has joined this channel (n=root@190.74.211.34).18:31
graxaimthere was a time that all linux channels had an autokick "root is lame" ^^18:31
AzzmodanI remember my irc clients whining about that too :)18:32
crsgraxaim: good old times. ;-)18:32
bazhang!ot | graxaim18:32
graxaimlol18:33
graxaimI guess the bot is away18:33
bazhanggraxaim, but I am here18:33
graxaimor maybe splitted.. I see the "old times" of netsplit are comming back18:33
bazhanggraxaim, chat in #kubuntu-offtopic18:33
graxaimscript kiddies packeting the hubs?18:33
jackaultThis is unsettling.18:34
graxaimI wont chat18:34
graxaimI'm leaving for lunch18:34
graxaimcya18:34
jackaultI've lost a mouse. I'm using the numeric pad with with mouse keys turned on and I can't figure out how to right click.18:34
jackaultPlus insert and del seem to be doing random things based on whether or not I've pressed / or *. Wtf.18:35
jackaultHow do I right click with mouse keys?18:35
nosrednaekimjackault: better do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg18:36
nosrednaekimand reset your keyboard settings18:36
jackaultBut is there no standard button for right click?18:40
jackault^ nosrednaekim18:40
drusup people .... anyone got any good ... ideas about.... id like to give some backtrack apps a shot...without the rpm nastyness( installers complications n stuff) ....anyone know where i can find like a software list (backtrack contents) so i can get them for kubuntu ?18:40
bazhangdru, check backtrack site18:41
nosrednaekimjackault: well, not if its getting all screwed up.18:41
druyeah they dont provide much of a list content ....18:42
bazhangdru, what apps you need18:42
pablonchohello.18:42
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nosrednaekimhello pabloncho18:43
drubazhang: well i wanted to hydra my server... had some xhydra probs with it in kubuntu.... id also be trying to crack my wifi wep...other things like general terminal apps like kismec*18:44
drui coould also just find the app contents on the cd and kinda find kubuntu equivilants18:45
CrellHi all.  Is there a decent midi player for Kubuntu?  I've a midi file that I've tried opening in Amarok and in Kaffeine, and both complain "No plugin found to handle this resource".18:45
bazhangdru, what about running backtrack in either livecd or vm18:45
CrellThere's no patent issues with midi, is there? :-)18:45
druany ideas where i would find program contents on *any linux distP?18:45
bazhangdru, distrowatch.com has some of them18:46
NekosolTeraDyneCrell: kmid is a good one. And no, I don't think there is18:46
drubazhang...yeah well live sure works...just in the case of dictionaries and general security setups... live isnt very safe unless you go thru the rigmorole ...thats rigmarole is what id like to learn18:46
bazhangdru, what I meant was check for apps in livecd mode then try and find kubuntu equivs18:47
CrellThanks.  How come that's not in the multimedia package by default?18:47
NekosolTeraDyneCrell: Probably the same reason there's no image manipulator by default: no room for it on the disc.18:48
CrellSilly CDs...18:48
nosrednaekimCrell: I believe there are ubuntu studio discs18:48
nosrednaekimwhich would have that18:48
drubezhang isnt there like an applications folder equiv to os x es app folder for every linux dist?18:48
druwhat is it18:49
jackaultBut you can pretty much do basic things like rotate from dolphin itself so it's cool.18:49
CrellHm.  OK, Kmid is playing the file, complete with Karaoke tips. :-)  But there's no audio.18:49
drucrell ...terminal :alsamixer18:49
NekosolTeraDyneHmm... Dang. I don't know why... We need the bot...18:49
bazhangdru, not used backtrack for a long while; but its much more pared down then ubuntu et al18:49
druyeah thats really true...18:50
CrellUgh, the terminal version. :-)  Which volume setting am I looking for?18:50
drui coul ask in the remote room18:50
druthe ones that say mm18:50
dru*mute18:50
CrellIt's not on mute.  I can play an mp3 just fine.18:50
drugotta love it :D18:50
drucool18:50
NekosolTeraDyneCrell: Try this page > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Midi/SoftwareSynthesisHowTo?highlight=%28MIDI%2918:51
CrellHm.  I'm not doing authoring, just playback.18:52
NekosolTeraDyneActually, that's a guide to get MIDI sound working18:53
Crell... Why exactly do I need to use 3rd party repositories just to play a midi file?18:54
NekosolTeraDyneWho knows. That's the ONLY decent guide I've found, though. Maybe there really is a patent issue with MIDI, but I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know.18:55
* Crell sighs.18:56
wastrelxmms-midi is in universe18:56
wastrelkmid is in main18:57
NekosolTeraDynewastrel: xmms is not in the Hardy repos18:57
CrellI have kmid installed, it's just not giving any audio.18:57
* Crell is on Gutsy atm.18:57
wastrelxmms-midi is in hardy18:58
NekosolTeraDynewastrel: O_o; then why isn't XMMS itself in hardy?18:58
wastreliono18:58
CrellWow.  xmms-midi doesn't have a dependency on xmms.18:59
CrellThat's just weird. :-)18:59
CrellOK. xmms plays the midi fine.  KMid still does not.19:00
* Crell scratches his head.19:00
Crissihello19:00
Crissii have problems with kubuntu hardy...19:01
cbrwhy isn't irssi 0.8.12-3ubuntu4 built for i386 yet?19:01
Crissihttp://paste.debian.net/4776/19:01
Crissihttp://paste.debian.net/4779/19:02
Crissix crash with sig1119:02
mrksbrddoes anyone know why my xserver might restart when I have desktop effects turned on, & when i click on something in system settings19:03
yao_ziyua1my video card is ati radeon 9200 with 3d acceleration. do i need to install additional driver packages?19:04
mrksbrdis this a bug that i may have discovered in 8.04?19:04
Crissiyes19:04
Crissibut i found the reason.. / was full19:05
|Dreams|how can i make mediatomb start when my pc boots?19:05
mrksbrdNOS....u on??19:06
wastreli'm installing kubuntu-desktop19:07
dennis_phow do i automount internal media partitions?19:08
nashkHi19:09
nashkI've installed 8.04 & very often, after an hour or so of use my desktop freezes19:10
DarthFrognashk:  That happened to me with Gutsy.19:10
nashkeven when I hist ctral + alt + del it deosn't exit19:11
nashkbut instead freezes completely19:11
nashkDarthFrog, really, what did you end up doing?19:11
DarthFrognashk: Giving up on Gutsy and kept on with Feisty until Hardy was released.  Hardy works fine.19:11
nashkHmm, must a hardware onfig issue19:12
nashkI wrote a script that outputs ps into a file every minute19:12
nashkafter the crash I inspected it, but nothing is wierd in there19:12
nashkI wonder how to debug this.19:12
nashkare there any kde logs?19:12
mrksbrdwhats the konsole command to d/l java???19:13
pimapt-get install java?19:14
mrksbrdtried that didn't work19:14
mrksbrddoes the ver 3 have to be added as well?19:14
mrksbrd#19:14
ignotry <aptitude search java> and install the package you need19:15
mrksbrdlet me try...ty19:16
NickPrestasun-java6-jre is the package you want (assuming you just want the JRE)19:19
montelhello19:21
NickPrestahi, montel19:21
montelhow do u make programs start up when u login?19:22
NickPresta!autostart19:23
NickPrestamontel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KubuntuAutostart19:24
montelyeah?19:24
mrksbrdinstalled bin jre and plugin & sun's website still not detecting plugin19:24
montelare u using mozilla 3 or 2?19:25
mrksbrdfirefox 219:25
montelhold on a second.19:25
mrksbrdlet me try a reboot again of browser19:26
NickPrestamrksbrd, I have the -bin, -fonts, -jre, and -plugin packages installed and the site detects the plugin fine. It should work for you (after a restart_19:26
mrksbrdtrying now19:28
MeTaHi all!19:30
montelmake sure u have the package "sun-gcj-compact plugin" installed.19:30
NickPrestamontel, no. the gcj is a different implementation than sun's java19:31
PaulPolo9are talking to me?19:32
NickPrestaPaulPolo9, no.19:32
montelopps19:32
NickPrestaof course, that isn't to say he can't use the GCJ implementation.  :)19:33
mrksbrdlet me get that package, but so far nothing19:34
mrksbrdCouldn't find package sun-gcj-compact19:35
mrksbrdsudo apt-get install sun-gcj-compact plugin19:36
mrksbrdright???19:36
NickPrestamrksbrd, in firefox, type: about:plugins19:36
NickPrestado you see any java plugins?19:36
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mrksbrdjust showing shockwave & futuresplash19:38
mrksbrdhmmm19:39
montelwhops. i spelt it wrong. its "java-gcj-compat-plugin"19:40
monteltry that/19:40
mrksbrdk19:40
josawoah... that's asking for dozens of other packages to be installed, including firefox-319:42
josais it only for firefox-3 or what's that java-gcj...19:43
monteli guess.19:44
montelhey, im only 12 so im no linux exprert19:44
mrksbrdmontel I think that worked19:46
josaare you using firefox 3 or 2 ?19:46
montel319:46
josa:(.. i dont like 319:46
montelme neither. but im trying now to find out a way to get it to work in 219:47
simiwhat is the problem with firefox 3?19:47
josai cant remember anymore, lol19:47
montellol19:48
montelso you are good to go mrksbrd?19:49
simiit is working fine for me, i use the noscript addon for faster and safe browsing19:49
monteldose anyone know of a browser that lets me surf annomosly?19:49
mrksbrdthink so19:50
montel:]19:50
mrksbrdthere is a 3 out now???19:50
josaim now reinstalling firefox-3.. i hope i wont freak out like the last time i tried to use it19:50
montelhaha. hilarious19:51
montelthe only thing i dont like is that i cant use google browser sync with it19:51
simidid you  tried NoScript for FireFox?19:53
montelno.19:54
mrksbrdis firefox 3 any better or different?19:54
simii like noscript because it uses a white list, and i put in white list only youtube and a few sites19:54
montelumm, not really19:55
montelha,19:55
sigma_1234shouldnt those kde 4.1 packages be out by now?19:55
montelno idea.19:55
simiand  the other sites that have lots of comercials in flash can't load them and the pages load faste, and iare sites that show you 5 seconds and anyimation and after the text you was searching for is verry useful19:56
MeTaWhat is the easiest way to create an encrypted kubuntu pendrive?19:57
simisigma_1234: a few hours ago they were not out19:57
sigma_1234simi: what about now?19:58
simisigma_1234: i will search now for you19:58
sigma_1234thanks19:59
wastrelso i went in and turned off all the effects but the effects are still active19:59
simisigma_1234: no, you can watch at www.kubuntu.org aor here  http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.05.28/hardy-kde-41-beta-packages-soon/20:00
nixternalkeep on a watchin', cuz I am a buildin' :)20:00
nixternalmissing out on a super nice day right now too :(20:00
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monteldose anybody know how to install tarballs?20:01
sigma_1234nixternal: lol thought you were away today. anywhere near completion?20:01
simimortal: it depends of the application complexity20:02
simimontel: : it depends of the application complexity20:03
NickPrestanixternal, all work and no play makes nixternal a dull boy :)20:04
mrksbrdanyone running 8.04?20:04
romunovyes20:05
simiyes20:05
mrksbrdhave u attempted enabling desktop effects the clicking on an icon in system settings and have xserver reboot automatically???20:05
montelhary haronnnnnnnnnnnnnn20:06
mrksbrdor is it just something that went haywire in my setup20:06
montelanyone know how to install vmserver on 8.04?20:07
nixternalNickPresta: what commercial is that from? I was saying that other day for some reason and it was stuck in my head20:08
simimontel: i sugest to try virtualbox of you just want a virtual machine20:08
nixternalsigma_1234: about to reach the 50% mark I would say20:08
monteli cant install vista on virtual box. or can i?20:08
asobiCrashhttp://pastebin.com/m6600c35720:08
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NickPrestanixternal, I'm not sure exactly. I don't watch much television (aside from sporting events). Thanks for your hard work getting 4.1 to Hardy.20:09
simimontel: vmware is to arge and it does not offer more to a simple use tham VirtuaBox20:09
mrksbrdmontel just dual boot20:09
nixternalonly thing vmware has that I wish virtualbox had, a button for taking screenshots20:09
simimontel: research on google20:10
mrksbrdi run a vista/kubuntu dual boot & works perfectly20:10
simimontel: i tried only XP and it works fine20:10
montelbecause like when i tried to intsall vista through virtual box, it would freeze.20:10
wastrelhrm20:11
nixternalthat's vista for ya :P20:11
simimontel: what you need Vista?20:11
ads_hi.. what bash commands are available to view open ports on my system or pointers to any guides would be great (im semi-familiar with ss)20:11
montelbecause i have a cell phone that i need windows to sync music to20:12
nixternalads_: sudo apt-get install nmap && nmap localhost20:12
ads_aha  i have nmap i guess i should learn the commands :S   thanks.. is that the best place to start? is there no group of commands to list services running etc nixternal20:13
simimontel: Does not work your cell phone in XP? XP is smaller and eat less resources20:13
nixternalps -e will get you a list of services running20:13
nixternalthere are so many commands honestly20:13
ads_specifically tcp connections etc20:13
montelyes, it dose, but i only have an vista CD20:13
nixternalI am willing to bet you can ask which command to do this or that, and everyone that answered would typically be different with pretty much the same results20:14
nixternalnetstat, arp, nmap are all good places to start20:14
ads_perfect  thanks nixternal20:14
* nixternal goes back to blowing up computers building out 4.1 beta 1 for you hardy peeps :)20:14
simimontel: maye you can find a way to make it running on linux?o20:15
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ads_nixternal: sorry one more thing..  how may i close ports or services im running?  (not processes)  for e.g ipp20:18
simimontel: what Vista do you have?20:18
montelhome basic20:19
simimontel: you must read the icense too ,did you read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60791420:20
simiit seams to work on virtual  box but i belive that the 3d ill not work20:20
nixternalads_: look at /etc/services20:21
nixternalipp             631/tcp                         # Internet Printing Protocol20:21
nixternalipp             631/udp20:21
nixternalads_: ^^ in /etc/services20:21
nixternaljust put a # in front of each ipp line20:21
mrksbrdgood old microsoft20:21
ads_thanks  i thought /etc/services was just a refference  of ports to protocols  oops :S20:22
nixternalads_: actually disregard what I just told you to do20:22
nixternalads_: you are right, I was thinking of the old slackware days there for a sec20:22
nixternalnow, if I really were in the old slackware days, I would of course told you to RTFM :P20:23
nixternallet me see how they changed20:23
ads_haha20:23
montelsimi: yeah, im just gonna look through torrents and find something. [thanks to mrksbrd] but micrsoft is soo messed up.20:23
ads_in the case of the 'F'   in RTFM  im sure it wouldnt of been friendly  :P20:23
mrksbrdis there any way dcc send thru konversation...i've found dcc status but nothing else20:24
simimontel: i am sorry for you that you must install 10 Gb of software just for a driver20:24
mrksbrdmontel;look for xp ultimate edition....even though it is still microcrap it is a good version20:25
simii have  the same problem with the video driver20:25
montelyeah, well, unless there is an application that can convert mp3s into wma's?20:25
mrksbrdsimi what card u have?20:26
simiATI mobility m6 ly20:26
simii tried many fixes  but i have still dark shapes on the screen20:26
mrksbrdis it not detecting it?20:26
mrksbrdis your HZ setting right?20:27
montelsimi: yeah, well, unless there is an application that can convert mp3s into wma's?20:27
simimrksbrd: i mean the 3d effects, the Ati do not provide me a driver20:27
simimontel:i do not know, but it is posible20:28
mrksbrdi had same problem with my nvidia geforce, come to find out it was listed under hardware drivers manager & just had to enable it properly20:29
mrksbrd!wma20:29
montelyeah, can you belive that it is illegal to use micrsoft codecs on other OS than Mac in the us?20:29
macdIm having a problem with a recent update: http://pastie.caboo.se/20648220:29
simimrksbrd: i do not know about HZ, i run compiz with a little fix, but i can;t run 3d games20:29
asobihow can i mount hdd via user? it keeps saying i need to be root20:30
montelwhy dont u be root then? google it20:30
cleavis123Once I switched from ATI 1950 to a NVIDIA 8800 GTS OC compiz worked great with all my 3d games.20:30
simimontel:maybe in novell open suse or linspire? i do not know, nut just forget those idiotic low20:30
mrksbrdcheck under system >>>hardware drivers manager see if your card is enabled20:30
montelyeahh.20:31
mrksbrdmontel: find anything yet?20:33
simimontel: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2902420:34
slow-motionhi20:34
ads_nixternal: im guessing (after googling ) that i can just create a iptables rule "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 631 -j DROP"20:34
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axel Hello! What might be a reason why packages are held back when upgrading (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade)?20:43
mustelaif i've installed the latest kernel update how can i make the -16 generic kernel the default one instead of the -17?20:43
JanMalte_how to merge many odt file into one new odt file?20:44
JanMalte_is there any way?20:44
mustelacopy and paste probably20:45
ibilickihi... I am trying to make Kubuntu boot from an external USB hard drive without boot USB support, using a floppy... can anyone point me in the right direction?20:45
ibilickiwithout *bios USB support20:45
simimustela: i just know that somewhere is a file named kernel that contains a link to the kernel that is used, i belive that changing that link should work, i do not test this and i sugest to search on google20:46
pimHow do you format a drive?20:47
Filipppim: Do you want to erase the data, repartition the drive or make a new filesystem?20:50
pimI want to make a new filesystem, but I get an error20:51
Filipppim: What typ eof filesystem, and what kind of error?20:51
pim  /media/disk/ is not a block special device.20:51
Filippare you doing it from the cli?20:51
pimmke2fs is the command I'm using20:51
pimyes20:51
pimhttp://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_to_a_USB_Flash_Drive20:52
pimtrying to get this to work20:52
Filippordinarily you'd use that command on an unmounted /dev/hdX or /dev/sdX20:52
pimhm20:52
pimso you have to do something to an unmounted drive?20:52
FilippI don't know at which part you're at, but the examples say /dev/sdX1, right?20:53
pimI'm going with alternative I20:53
Filipphave you figured out which /dev/sd is your flash drive?20:53
pimNo, I thought it was in /media/disk/20:54
pimfdisk -l doesn't seem to do anything20:55
Filippthe location /media/disk is just a mountpoint for the device. The device itself is found in /dev/. Even before you choose an alternative, the instructions tell you to find the location of your flash drive using fdisk. It's right below "From within Linux".20:56
FilippIt's the tricky part, because you don't want to do all the stuff it says there to any hard drives20:56
pimSo how do I figure out where my usb is?20:58
jitendrapim could u explain ur problem once again20:59
Filippafter you  plugged it in, was it mounted? Can you list the contents using konqueror or dolphin? And if so, where was it mounted?20:59
pimI'd like to install DSL to a memorystick. I have to format the drive first. For further reference see: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_to_a_USB_Flash_Drive20:59
FilippIf it was mounted, and you know where (for example, /media/disk), you can use the mount command to find out what the name of the device is.21:00
pimFilip yes yes /media/disk/21:00
pimoh?21:00
pimjust type mount?21:00
Filippyes21:00
wastrelhow do i disable the menu effect and the bouncy cursor21:00
wastreli've turned them off in the system settings but they didn't stop21:00
Filippwastrel: use a terminal and start kcontrol, the old kde control center.21:00
pim /dev/sdf1 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uhelper=hal,flush,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)21:01
Filipppim: there you go, your usb key is called /dev/sdf21:01
pimok thanks21:01
Filippthe number, /dev/sdf1 is the partition number inside the usb key21:02
pimI'd like to navigate to it right now actually, to make sure it really is that21:02
Filipppim: that's smart. Also, you can remove the key and issue the mount command again21:02
pimbash: cd: /dev/sdf: Not a directory21:02
wastreli like kcontrol21:03
Filippthen, umount the drive and continue the instructions from "From within Linux"21:03
Filipppim: that's correct, you can't browse the /dev/ files like that21:03
wastrelFilipp: the settings are the same in there as in the other thing21:03
afeijoI wanna start my XAMPP automatcly21:03
afeijocurrently I have to open konsole and type xampp start21:03
Filipppim: They're actually streams. You could cat the rwaw device, but it's not useful right now21:04
romunovmaaaaaaan21:04
jitendrapim it is a block device file not a directory21:04
romunovmy fat32 partition just stops working - i can't write to it several hours after reboot21:04
pimI though everything in linux was treated as a file.21:04
Filipppim: True, but that doesn't mean you can make sense of it like that. Video files, when watched as text, also don't make any sense, right?21:05
afeijoany hint?21:05
pimYou're right Filipp21:05
jitendrapim u got it right it is a block device file not a directory.21:05
Filippafeijo: You could make a desktop file in .kde/Autostart21:05
Filipppim: Good luck, gotto go now21:07
pimhow do I umount something, it won't let me since it thinks it's busy21:08
jitendrau might be using directory from X or console21:09
jitendrapim make sure u r not in /media/disk21:09
pimOh that's the problem21:09
pim:-D21:09
partha_pim: the umount app has an option -f which you can use to force the unmount. But you should read the man page before you do that21:10
pimWell the problem was that I was in the dir21:10
afeijo.kde/Autostart, I add a symbolic there?21:10
afeijocant remember the symbolic command, wtf... I'm shamed21:12
partha_ln -s ??21:12
afeijoyes, thanks hehe21:13
wastreldo people use kmail21:13
afeijomy command need a parameter, so ln isnt the solution. I will create a bash file21:14
partha_Hell yeah, I usee kmail everyday.21:14
wastrelfor some reason kmail isn't in the kde menu21:14
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wastrelnor is korganizer21:15
partha_wastrel: did you install kmail and korganizer_21:15
partha_?21:15
afeijoops, my bash file doesnt run when I type his name on konsole21:15
afeijoI set chomod 77721:16
mudgehey Kubuntu people21:16
partha_wastrel: if you installed kmail just press alt+f2 and type kmail and press enter21:16
mudgewhy do you like Kubuntu more than Ubuntu?21:16
jpdsmudge: we like kde?21:17
mudgehaha, jpds,  i guess that's the obvious answer21:17
mudgei wonder if there's any other difference21:17
afeijomudge: n21:17
afeijokmail21:18
jpdsmudge: best try them both out, and make up your mind :)21:18
afeijocan I have both on the same system?21:18
jitendraafeijo: definitely yes21:19
mudgejpds: okey dokey21:19
wastrelpartha_: yes i know, just wondering if there's a different client since it wasn't in the menu for whatever reason21:20
wastrelwhat's the difference between kontact and korganizer?21:22
sigma_1234dam i rely can't wait for the 4.1 packages!21:23
wastrelare we getting backports?21:23
sigma_1234korganizer is a kontact component21:23
sigma_1234thats what i heard. i hope so. i dont have intrepid21:24
partha_wastrel: I know it isn21:24
partha_wastrel: 't in the menu.21:24
partha_wastrel: for some weird reason21:24
afeijojitendra: cool21:24
afeijowhy my bash file doenst run when I type it name? only with sh name?21:24
sigma_1234its like kmail. it can run alone. kontact just draws all of them together21:25
wastreloic21:25
sigma_1234poor nixternal is burning the oil making those packages!21:25
jitendraafeijo: u need to use ./filename or use sh filename21:27
afeijoI added that file to my .kde/Autostart, will work?21:28
afeijowill it run when system power on?21:28
jitendrai am not very sure. i have never tried21:29
nashkis it posible to resize photos in Dolpine?21:29
nashk*Dolphin21:29
afeijoit wont, has to run as root...21:29
afeijotime to google about it21:29
sigma_1234use gimp for that21:29
sigma_1234!info gimp21:29
nashksigma, So no plugin for Dolphin?21:29
nashkI can rotate them, but no function to resize, it seems.21:30
sigma_1234dolphin kde3 or kde4?21:30
nashk321:30
jitendraafeijo: .ked is specific to a user not root. so u r placing file in .kde it is applicable to that particular user only21:30
sigma_1234they dont develop that one anymore21:31
afeijoops, removing21:31
afeijoso I need /etc/rc.local21:31
afeijodone, soon I will test it :)21:33
afeijowhen I run my lampp thru 'sudo lampp start', it run within my session? I dont want apache to close when I leave the session21:33
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pim /dev/sdf has no x86 boot sector21:47
pimhow do I create one?21:48
piorHi21:57
druhey any one know what is with the firefox plugin for flash player ....its missing :install-xj0..rdf ...any other options to install '21:58
dru?21:58
Pliskinhave you installed flashplugin-nonfree ?21:59
dru no ... thanks ill check that22:00
Pliskinde rien22:00
druahhh22:00
druthe extra repos22:00
pimWhat would I use to burn an iso to a disk?22:04
NickPrestapim, k3b?22:05
james__K3b22:05
pimk3b ok22:05
NickPrestaits a nice application. I think you'll find it does what you need it to do22:05
pimOk I'll check it out22:06
pierre_Hi ! When compiz is activated, I'm inside the cube and the rotation show only the inside !!!22:09
NickPrestapierre_, there is a configuration variable in the options somewhere to change that22:09
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pierre_NickPresta, well I searched but didn't find .. I'll try more22:10
NickPrestapierre_, ask in #compiz-fusion. I'm sure they can tell you instantly22:11
pierre_Many thanks22:11
james__Are you using the Advance Desktop Effect Setting22:12
Deepthoughtpierre, you cab adjust in advanced desktop settings-trning cube; choose between inside and outside22:12
pierre_[james] yes22:13
Deepthoughtinside looks better anyway22:13
pierre_Solved - Many thanks again22:16
tininhi, how could I run multiple x sessions?22:16
tininhow could I start another graphical session with icewm on a different virtual desktop (Ctrl+Alt+F1), what's the command?22:17
james__I didnt know you can do that22:18
messiahkubuntu-es please22:24
aygianooooooooooooola22:26
jonathan_hello! i've question22:34
jonathan_how can i completly delete files with kubuntu?22:35
gwphow come linux locks up the sound card to one device and wont give multiple devices access to it, and how do i change this?22:35
jonathan_if i just select them and press "delete" theyre moved to the trash22:35
jonathan_but i just want to delete them ^^22:35
jonathan_how can i do this?22:35
NickPrestajonathan_, hold shift + delete22:35
jonathan_ok thank you22:35
sigma_1234boys im off to sleep. will i get a kde4.1 surprise when i wake up?22:39
jonathan_does anyone know wheter theres a filesystem that works on both linux and windows?22:43
SlimeyPetejonathan_: what's wrong with ext?22:44
SlimeyPeteyou can get ext drivers for Windows.22:44
SlimeyPeteand you can get ntfs drivers for Linux...22:45
Giskard_ReventloHi.  My user-level KDE menus are all messed up after I upgraded to kubuntu from another distro. How do I replace them with kubuntu defaults?22:46
jonathan_but i'm traveling a lot, exchanging data with friends etc... And then it would be nice to have the external drive working after plugin it in my friends pc that uses windows22:48
jonathan_ext3 is nice,22:49
jonathan_i didn't have a problem with it right now!22:49
SlimeyPetejonathan_: fat32 is rubbish but it works with everything...22:50
jonathan_lol ok22:52
jonathan_hm22:52
jonathan_i think i gonna use my ext3 until the ntfs-driver for linux supports ntfs drives :D22:53
jonathan_thanks for the information ;)22:53
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gwphow come linux locks up the sound card to one device and wont give multiple devices access to it, and how do i change this?22:54
Sw0rdF1shi love kubuntu22:58
Sw0rdF1shlol22:58
gwpit is quite awesome22:58
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ahmed_hi  all22:59
gwphows it going22:59
gwp!dmix23:02
gwpwhy doesnt sudo kate work and what would be the proper command?23:15
adz21cgwp: kdesudo kate23:15
adz21cgwp: but if this is for kde4 then u need to provide the path to kate as well23:16
gwpwhats the default path?23:16
adz21cgwp: if ur using kde4 then u wanna be putting 'kdesudo /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate'23:16
gwpthank you23:17
adz21cgwp: np23:17
gwpanyone know the command to download dmix?23:19
JoshOvkidmix isnt packaged23:20
gwpcrap, where would I get it?23:20
damien__sudo get dmix23:20
damien__Oh wait, sorry.23:21
damien__Didn't read josh0vki's message.23:21
gwpkdesudo katen I get it?23:23
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gwpwhat the shit23:23
JoshOvkigwp: why not use kmix?23:23
JoshOvkioh i see different thing23:24
gwpkdesudo katehe same time23:24
gwp.23:24
gwpmy keyboared must be messing with me23:24
gwpid like to play WoW and listen to mp3s same time, will kmix allow that?23:25
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JoshOvkigwp: you can listen 2 music and play games at the same time23:26
JoshOvkior you should be able to by default23:26
gwpno, when I play WoW i cant hear audio from the mp3, inless I play the mp3 first, then I cant hear wow when i run it23:26
JoshOvkigwp: oh, i havnt seen that before sorry23:27
sternare23:28
sternaif i installed to an encrypted disk partition using 8.04 alternate desktop cd23:28
sternadoes this mean i have to worry because of the openssl random number generator vulnerability?23:28
beneditoBAY ;)23:37
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alycould anyone tell me what program to open .dvi files in? thanks23:57
axelHello! I got some problems after activating 3D-effects in Kubuntu. There are no windows boarders any more. How to get them back again?23:59
carsteneg. kylex ... with gui ... good to use23:59
carstenopen und works very good with latex-docs23:59
alyok, thanks23:59

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