[00:00] <kiko> bdmurray, it's interesting, at least. we now send out special subscription notifications, but we hadn't considered what would happen if you were also the reporter. I guess you might still want the paper trail to confirm your action worked?
[00:04] <bdmurray> kiko: I didn't subscribe the team I'm part of but I guess
[00:28] <emgent> heya people
[00:30] <emgent> kiko: ping
[00:36] <kiko> emgent, hey there
[00:36] <kiko> bdmurray, the From: tells you who did it right?
[00:37] <bdmurray> kiko: Nope, but it says in the body
[00:37] <kiko> bdmurray, oh
[01:17] <emgent> kiko: have you time for open one mailinglist for rapache-devel team ?
[01:17] <emgent> launchpad question is up
[01:18] <kiko> emgent, I don't know how to do that -- barry does though :)
[01:18] <emgent> cool :P
[01:19] <kiko> I think he's away though
[01:19] <kiko> bummer!
[01:24] <LaserJock> pfft, you mean LP devs aren't around 24x7??
[01:53] <just_a_nick> hello everyone. Im having trouble my open pgp key. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[02:51] <just_a_nick> Hello everyone. I have just uploaded my pgp key but i cant decrypt the mail launchpad sent me. Can someone help me?
[02:57] <rockstar> just_a_nick, what mail client are you using?
[02:59] <just_a_nick> hotmail, but i tried evolution
[02:59] <just_a_nick> it tells me my key is incorrect
[03:06] <just_a_nick> i have solved the problem. I had to use my passphrase instead of my key to decrypt
[03:06] <just_a_nick> thank you anyway rockstar
[03:07] <rockstar> just_a_nick, you're actually using your passphrase AND your key...
[03:09] <just_a_nick> well. I just had to write my passphrase for firegpg to decrypt it
[08:07] <Erick> hey i have a question
[08:08] <Erick> how do i become a member from the ubuntu translater team?
[10:03] <jafo> I made a commit to my bzr branch and then tried "bzr push lp:python-memcached", but it's failing with "transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()".  I can't find instructions on how I'm supposed to push on the launchpad site.
[10:04] <mwhudson> jafo: bzr launchpad-login
[10:04] <jafo> Thanks.
[10:05] <mwhudson> jafo: newer bzrs will suggest this 
[10:05] <mwhudson> jafo: you can find newer bzrs in the ~bzr ppa, fwiw
[10:08] <jafo> Yeah, just had to "bzr launchpad-login jafo", then I could push.  THanks.
[10:11] <mwhudson> np
[10:50] <Daviey> Hi, is it possible to delete a package from PPA, and unmark a previous build as superseeded?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Daviey: you can delete and upload of newer version will mark it superseeded once build finishes 
[11:35] <gnomefreak> s/will/should
[11:38] <Daviey> gnomefreak: seems wasteful to rebuild just for the sake of it, but mkay - thanks
[11:38] <wgrant> Daviey: One isn't meant to delete packages to regress the version.
[11:38] <wgrant> That is very, very bad.
[11:38] <Daviey> wgrant: why?
[11:38] <wgrant> Daviey: Upgrades.
[11:38] <wgrant> Or lack thereof.
[11:39] <Daviey> wgrant: It was a trunk build that didn't build cleanly, so reverted to latest release.
[11:39] <Daviey> so that is why i want to revert to a superseeded package
[11:39] <wgrant> You shouldn't do that.
[11:39] <wgrant> You need to upload a new version.
[11:40] <wgrant> Or nobody can upgrade.
[11:41] <Daviey> rather, i mean the trunk build failed - so nobody would have grabbed the debs
[11:41] <wgrant> Why wouldn't they>?
[11:41] <Daviey> how could they?
[11:41] <wgrant> If they use your PPA, they will have them.
[11:41] <wgrant> Oh.
[11:41] <wgrant> I see.
[11:41] <wgrant> It all failed, OK.
[11:41] <Daviey> yeah. i didn't make that very clear.
[11:42] <wgrant> Well, it's highly evil and shouldn't be done.
[11:42] <wgrant> But there is a way to do it.
[11:42] <wgrant> Delete the new package.
[11:42] <Daviey> done
[11:42] <wgrant> And copy the old one to the right distroseries.
[11:42] <Daviey> hmm
[11:42]  * Daviey investigates
[11:44] <Daviey> wgrant: that worked, you sir rock.  thanks
[11:44] <wgrant> np
[13:39] <RainCT> hi
[13:39] <RainCT> Is there some problem with bazaar.launchpad.net? (I've done a commit several minutes ago and it hasn't showed up yet :S).
[13:41] <Peng> What about now?
[13:42] <Peng> I don't think a delay of a few minutes is abnormal.
[13:42] <RainCT> Still not there. I've been waiting for at least 10 minutes now.
[13:42] <Peng> Oh.
[13:43] <RainCT> actually, even more. I pushed at 14:27
[13:43] <RainCT> and now again (a new commit) at 14:42
[13:45] <RainCT> (branch is: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/trunk/)
[13:47] <Peng> What if you "bzr log -r -1 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/trunk/"?
[13:49] <RainCT> Peng: it shows info for the first commit, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15986/plain/
[13:49] <Peng> RainCT: Look at https://code.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/trunk . It says there's an error.
[13:50] <Peng> RainCT: I said "-1", the most recent revision, not "1".
[13:50] <Peng> RainCT: FWIW, I get r217, which is from a couple hours ago, I think.
[13:51] <RainCT> yes, it should be at 219 though. What does that error mean?
[13:51] <RainCT> -1 shows commit 217
[13:51] <Peng> RainCT: Uhh. It means one of the most recent revisions isn't entirely there.
[13:52] <Peng> RainCT: Also, it's locked.
[13:52] <Peng> RainCT: Your connection or bzr died while pushing.
[13:53] <RainCT> oh. bzr pull says "No revisions to pull"
[13:53] <RainCT> nvm
[13:53] <Peng> Err, never mind about the lock thing.
[13:53] <Peng> My mistake.
[13:54] <RainCT> argh.. just did pull --overwrite instead of push -.-
[13:54] <Peng> Oops.
[13:54] <RainCT> well, still have most files open
[13:54] <Peng> The revisions are still in your local repository; use the "bzr heads" plugin to find them, then "bzr pull -r revid:...".
[13:55] <Peng> Wait, "bzr pull -r revid:whatever ."
[13:55] <mwhudson> Revision {rainct@ubuntu.com-20080531122738-g0riqnfnzvbl8y0t} not present in "KnitVersionedFile(file:///srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/push-branches/00/00/05/60/.bzr/repository/knits/69/%2543onfig.py-20060622101809-5d8e0d685e1ba48a)".
[13:55] <mwhudson> something broked
[13:55] <mwhudson> i guess pushing again will help
[13:58]  * mwhudson is asleep though
[14:00] <RainCT> re-pushed.. let's see if it comes up now
[14:01] <Peng> Says the same thing, but like 
[14:01] <Peng> I said, I think it can take a couple minutes to update.
[14:01]  * Peng waits.
[14:02] <Peng> RainCT: Also, you haven't upgraded to packs yet? Eww.
[14:03] <RainCT> Peng: dunno.. isn't my branch :P
[14:04] <Peng> If you can write to it, you could. People may not notice. :P
[14:05] <RainCT> lol. looks bad, the revisions are still not there.
[14:06] <Peng> RainCT: Try a push --overwrite.
[14:06] <RainCT> just tried that; «No new revisions to push.»
[14:11] <RainCT> bzr co lp:revu doesn't work - http://paste.ubuntu.com/15989/plain/ - but break-lock doesn't show any locks
[14:13] <Peng> Yeah, that was the mistake I made. I'm pretty sure that warning just means that while the server was working, it let something be implicitly unlocked when it was garbage collected instead of doing it explicitly.
[14:16] <RainCT> ah, but lp:revu is another branch anyway
[14:17] <RainCT> (uhm.. but same problem with revu-hackers/revu/trunk)
[14:20] <RainCT> got ride of the warning on LP doing: uncommit; uncommit; push --overwrite;
[14:20] <RainCT> first commit up..
[14:22] <RainCT> and the second one broke it again o_O
[14:23] <RainCT> brb
[14:25] <kiko> RainCT, what bzr are you using?
[14:38] <RainCT> kiko: 1.3.1
[14:54] <highvoltage> howdy
[14:55] <highvoltage> any admins around?
[14:55] <highvoltage> I get an error when I try to checkout the planet ubuntu configuration files. Seems like a lock issue, would this be the right place to ask about that?
[14:56] <Hobbsee> highvoltage: you need to use a later version of bzr, iirc.
[14:56] <kiko> RainCT, you might want to upgrade..
[14:56] <kiko> highvoltage, what version of bzr?
[14:59] <highvoltage> jonathan@sawdust:~$ apt-cache show bzr | grep Version
[14:59] <highvoltage> Version: 1.3.1-1
[14:59] <highvoltage> Python-Version: 2.4, 2.5
[14:59] <highvoltage> Hobbsee, kiko: ^^^
[14:59] <kiko> old
[14:59] <kiko> upgrade
[14:59] <highvoltage> oh wow. thanks.
[15:00] <Hobbsee> newer version is in backports.  can't cherry pick the fix (patch doesn't apply)
[15:00] <Hobbsee> so doesn't qualify for a SRU
[15:00] <kiko> Hobbsee, what release is that?
[15:00] <kiko> Hobbsee, we could ask martin to sort this out for us if you like
[15:02] <Hobbsee> oh, interesting.  they did mangle it to apply.
[15:02] <Hobbsee> kiko: looks like a working version should be in hardy-proposed
[15:02] <highvoltage> Hobbsee: ok thanks, for a moment there I thought I haven't installed all my security updates
[15:02] <highvoltage> hmm, can't find it in backports either. perhaps the local mirror still needs to update. I'll try again later.
[15:05] <Hobbsee> does'nt look in backports.  i requested that jdong fixed it.
[15:05] <Hobbsee> i wonder if it's sitting in a queue somewhere
[15:06] <highvoltage> aaah
[15:06] <highvoltage> kiko: where did you get the newer version from? from source?
[15:06] <Hobbsee> highvoltage: it's in intrepid
[15:07] <highvoltage> aah
[15:07] <highvoltage> bit early for me to be installing things from intrepid. I guess I can just make an intrepid chroot for that.
[15:07] <kiko> highvoltage, you can pull from the bzr ppa I bet
[15:07] <RainCT> highvoltage: the .deb is also on http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/bzr
[15:08] <highvoltage> yay \o/
[15:08] <Hobbsee> hmm, not stuck in a queue
[15:09] <highvoltage> what the heck, I'll just install it from intrepid
[15:10] <laga> did the bzr guys again change their repo format?
[15:11] <kiko> no
[15:21] <zyx386_> hi
[15:21] <zyx386_> how can contact to nickolay from wordpress team in launchpad
[15:22] <zyx386_> the email isn't correct
[15:22] <zyx386_> ?
[15:22] <zyx386_> Nikolay Bachiyski
[15:24] <RainCT> zyx386_: I don't think the LP team is allowed to tell people non-public data about other users
[15:25] <zyx386_> RainCT, this nickolay is group owner most answer me
[15:26] <zyx386_> we translate some text in wordpress translation
[15:26] <zyx386_> some one can register and edit our translation
[15:26] <zyx386_> i send 10 emails but no answer
[15:27] <zyx386_> and wher make our team under Filter???
[15:27] <zyx386_> http://amanj86.googlepages.com/wordpress.PNG
[15:27] <zyx386_> anyone answer me?????
[15:29] <RainCT> zyx386_: so your problem is that you want to change the group's configuration so that only approved people can change translations on the wordpress project, but the project's owner doesn't answer?
[15:29] <zyx386_> yes
[15:29] <RainCT> zyx386_: are you a WP dev?
[15:30] <zyx386_> no
[15:30] <zyx386_> but iam member from ubuntu in kurdish and creator from worpress in kurdish
[15:31] <RainCT> zyx386_: well, then tell some WP developer to ask the LP guys and they might transfer project ownership to him
[15:31] <RainCT> (or just wait for a reply from some LP guy as they might tell you something else)
[15:31] <zyx386_> i send the email to nickolay the group qwner
[15:31] <zyx386_> he anser first time
[15:32] <zyx386_> contact to kurdish team in wordpress
[15:32] <zyx386_> :)
[15:32] <zyx386_> i am creator from wordpress in kurdish, what you talking abut :)
[15:33] <RainCT> well dunno just wait for some LP guy to answer then
[15:34] <zyx386_> ok thanx
[15:35] <RainCT> yw
[15:41] <RainCT> argh.. still the same problem with bzr 1.5-1
[15:41] <RainCT> @ kiko, Peng 
[15:42] <kiko> RainCT, that's pretty weird. 
[15:42] <kiko> RainCT, locally the branch works fine?
[15:42] <RainCT> yes
[15:42] <kiko> but when pushing it corrupts?
[15:43] <RainCT> right. and the revision hasn't any big change nor anything.. just a new file and some plain text changes (http://paste.ubuntu.com/15995/)
[15:43] <kiko> hmmm
[15:43] <kiko> plain text changes you say?
[15:43] <kiko> RainCT, and it's reproducible, always when pushing that specific revision?
[15:43] <RainCT> yes
[15:44] <RainCT> ie, pushing rev 218 worked
[15:44] <kiko> RainCT, can you tar the whole branch up and save it for tomorrow when I can get jml to look at it?
[15:44] <kiko> also capture the error message and save it
[15:44] <kiko> RainCT, now, if you commit something else and push, does it work?
[15:45] <RainCT> no. bzr push doesn't complain, but it won't come up on LP
[15:45] <Peng> RainCT: Are you pushing over bzr+ssh or sftp? Try the other.
[15:45] <RainCT> bzr+ssh
[15:46] <RainCT> kiko: should I mail it to you?
[15:46] <kiko> RainCT, no, but if you can hang on to it until tomorrow jml can look at it
[15:46] <kiko> (my link is painfully slow)
[15:47] <Peng> RainCT: Also, try pushing to a different location (another server, or lp:~rainct/+junk/test) or something.
[15:53] <RainCT> no luck with sftp
[15:55] <Peng> You broked it!
[15:55] <Peng> I'm out, then.
[15:55] <Peng> Perhaps #bzr could help.
[16:51] <highvoltage> kiko: I get the same problem with the new bzr :/
[16:51] <kiko> highvoltage, so does RainCT :-/
[16:51] <kiko-afk> I need to run off
[16:51] <kiko-afk> will bbiab
[16:51] <highvoltage> ok
[16:53] <fredreichbier> Hello. is it possible to make a 'quicklink' on a file on the newest revision? e.g. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gestikk/gestikk/main/annotate/jonas%40dauerbaustelle-20080525093253-w0idrwcoseco2bs2?file_id=netwm.py-20080523101630-ztjme5cgsi0ygq4m-1 -> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gestikk/gestikk/main/gestikk/netwm.py (doesn't work)?
[17:33] <andrea-bs> can I send e-mails to <new@bugs.staging.launchpad.net>?
[18:12] <RainCT> argh is that netsplit annoying :P
[21:47] <marnanel> I should be able to find this, I'm sure... I have a project which LP knows about but it doesn't use LP's code (it uses Google Code); is there a simple way to import svn history into LP and make it the code for my project?
[21:47] <marnanel> Or should I be asking this on LP help?
[21:49] <beuno> marnanel, you can requst LP to mirror the SVN branch in bzr
[21:50] <beuno> I believe you have to open a question requesting it, but I haven't done if before, so I can't say for sure
[21:50] <beuno> the usual LP admins are probably waway today
[21:51] <beuno> I'd file a question with all the relevant information, and go from there
[21:52] <marnanel> beuno: thanks, aweseom
[21:52] <kiko-afk> marnanel, you can create a new code import: https://help.launchpad.net/VcsImports
[21:52] <marnanel> also awesome
[21:54] <marnanel> kiko-afk: I don't want to mirror it, though, I want to stop using svn
[21:55] <kiko-afk> marnanel, ah. you are a wise man. but you can mirror first and then use that as your basis for your new branch
[21:55] <kiko-afk> or you can do a one-time conversion
[21:55] <marnanel> oh, good point
[21:55] <kiko-afk> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+faq/26
[21:56]  * marnanel goes to play with this
[21:56] <kiko-afk> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+faq/24
[21:56] <marnanel> ooh, I must  have missed that-- thanks
[21:56] <kiko-afk> marnanel, if you set up your source details I might be able to kick it off before I leave in some 20 mins
[21:56] <kiko-afk> upstairs and will brb
[22:00] <beuno> ah, there you go, the ever-present kiko-afk :)
[22:25] <kiko-afk> marnanel, so, what do you think
[22:50] <emgent> heya
[22:50] <danshearer> 'evening all
[22:51] <danshearer> last time I was here people helped me get my first project up (and thankyou all kindly)
[22:51] <danshearer> now I'd like to be unconfused about something else
[22:52] <danshearer> I have read about the difference between a product and a project
[22:52] <danshearer> now I hear that maybe in practice product==project and there is a new category, superproject
[22:52] <danshearer> however "superproject" is not a designation ever seen, it is just a label people talk about IRL
[22:53] <danshearer> and a superproject can have multiple child projects (which cannot themselves have child projects.)
[22:53] <danshearer> is this approximately correct?
[22:55] <danshearer> s/supergroup/project group/
[23:06] <danshearer> another, very different topic... where do the administrators of ubuntu.com hang out? I've got a nice error msg to report
[23:07] <danshearer> found it.
[23:07] <danshearer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+filebug
[23:07] <danshearer> all roads lead to launchpad :-)
[23:30] <maix> is it possible that a user who has the name i'd like to have on launchpad is deleted (he has not done anything on launchpad yet)
[23:47] <wgrant> danshearer: A project group (proper name for a superproject) has no projecty attributes of its own other than a description, title, and that sort of thing. It can contain normal projects. For example, 'launchpad-project' is a project group.
[23:47] <wgrant> It cannot have bugs or blueprints or similar created on it.
[23:56] <zyx386> hi
[23:56] <zyx386> is anyone her from launchpad?
[23:57] <zyx386> we have abig problem in our language translatio  in wordpress project
[23:57] <zyx386> ever one can register and edit our text
[23:57] <zyx386> ???