=== mindframe_ is now known as mindframe [03:22] hey, for some reason my program guide is completely empty... it was working, but now it's not... wtf? === MythbuntuGuest90 is now known as rephormat [03:38] hello everyone.. I have a quick question/problem that hopefully someone can point me in the right direction [03:39] I have an Intel D845PEBT2 ICH4 AC'97 motherboard and after installing mythbuntu I am not getting any sound. In fact I don't think it is even detecting my sound card. [03:39] Can anyone help? [03:44] my lirc script takes too long to run and the watch tv times out, is there a way to increase this timeout value? [03:49] hmm [03:50] noone alive in here? [03:53] pteague, check and see if mythfilldatabase is running [03:53] should it constantly be running or on a cronjob or something? [03:56] pteague, check mythweb/status and see if it says the next run time. [03:56] is this a new install? [03:56] Did you set it to run in the frontend? [03:56] i set it up about a week or 2 ago [03:57] or maybe 3? [03:57] well it downloads 2 weeks of channel data [03:57] so that sounds about right [03:57] in the frontend you need to tell mythfilldatabase to run [03:57] oh, ok [03:57] I believe it's under general settings [03:57] hello all [03:58] I have to run for about 45 minutes, but if you don't get it leave a message here and i'll walk you through it [03:58] Bob24, same to you, ask your question and if it's not answered by the time i'm back, i'll try to help you too [03:58] unless it's something quick [03:58] k [03:59] i cant play a dvd in Mythbuntu, can someone please help? [03:59] in a player like vlc i can, but in the frontend nothing happens [04:00] Bob24, like I said I have to run, but did you enable libdvdcss2 from mythbuntu-control-centre. Alternatively, you may need to go into the frontend setup and tell it where your dvd drive is [04:00] back in 45 [04:01] woot, just in time for dr who & samurai jack... but i think it may have the wrong time :/ [04:01] k thanks ill give it a try [04:04] could someone please tell how i tell Mythbuntu where my dvd drive is? [04:06] nm, samurai jack is tomorrow [04:06] is it on your frontend or backend box? [04:09] frontend i suppose [04:09] frontend is the main menu right? [04:10] the 1 that you manipulate with your remote control [04:11] under optical disks [04:12] my lirc script takes too long to run and the watch tv times out, is there a way to increase this timeout value? [04:12] yep ok so how do i set it? [04:13] i press play dvd and nothing happens [04:13] same when i try to go into video manager or video settings [04:17] i'm not sure then... haven't done that myself on front end [04:17] what about on backend [05:37] back [05:38] drove all over town looking for my chairs [05:38] still can't find them [06:11] hello [06:11] could someone help me with a issue plz? [06:11] How do you setup to rip dvd's on Mythbuntu Frontend? [08:38] thought I was getting a good deal on that hd-dvd player [08:49] good thing I didn't buy it [09:26] hi all [11:01] i'm trying to create a custom mythbuntu, my only problem at the moment is configuring mysql-server in a chroot environment, it cant gain a lock on /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ? [11:03] does anyone have experience with a custom livecd and mysql in chroot, would be most helpful on this problem [11:08] djbmister: Are you using out build script? [11:08] our* [11:09] which script is that? [11:10] the one in bzr, one mo [11:10] i guess, you want to make a livecd that is custom? [11:11] yes, there is a lot missing apps to be useful [11:11] plus i want the latest fixes intergrated [11:12] can you point me to the build script? [11:13] sure [11:13] im hoping to upload a custom version to the torrent, next month - to help some people struggling with the current mythbuntu [11:14] i'll just call it mythbuntu8.04fixes [11:14] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-livedisk [11:14] djbmister: erm, why release a fork? [11:15] what issues are these, they could be fixed in the main - and be put in the upcomming .1 release.. :s [11:15] i dont want to reinvent the wheel, just release a quick fix for impatient people - like me :-) [11:17] i've bug reported several issues - lirc remote generator making two entrys for enter command, /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd not detecting discs properly [11:18] current kernel causing some machines to crash i.e mine, latest proposed kernel is ok [11:23] also the current squashfs-tools has an outstanding bug with the -no-sparse bug [11:23] which makes impossible to make a squashfs image [11:26] but you have patches? [11:29] not yet, just a workaround - add -no-sparse for mksquashfs to work [12:04] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=455589 - sparse bug [12:05] djbmister: there will be a 8.04.1 release. we'd appreciate if you helped us fixing any outstanding issues properly instead of forking [12:07] unfortunately, it's a rather annoying process to get updated packages into stable. it'll hopefully be better once the archives have been re-organized. [12:07] djbmister: if you have some bug numbers for me, i'll take a look and make sure they get some extra love. [12:08] no problem, my intention is not to fork, i have some free time im happy to help! [12:09] free time? what's that? ;) [12:11] :-) [12:12] i can understand the ubuntu project has become a mammoth task - and its own success might its failing [12:13] what do you mean? regarding free time? [12:13] i dont do a lot of ubuntu development, i just happen to be busy with lots of other stuff at the moment. i'll get back to it eventually :) [12:13] This is just my opinion - i think ubuntu need to constraint on QC, rather than new features, new features [12:16] Hi everybody [12:17] I have a sound lag problem when watching live tv. I have looked in the mythtv wiki but I'v not found solutions [12:17] My tuner card is a pctv stereo analog card. [12:18] I have also tried to sync audio/video in the menu but it do not function correctly [12:19] Is there a way to fix manually a 2 second lag (command line) [13:19] Is there someone? [13:33] im here [15:04] Hi their [15:08] Im trying to set up myth to use my cable box. i used the control centre and add my ir blaster. but in the myth setup do i need to as script to use in the external chnnel spot? if so what script do i use.. im using the windows mce2 ir blaster [15:36] Hi All [15:37] I'm trying to download the mythbuntu 8.04 release from their website. However, once I click on the url it tries to redirect me and then just seems to stop [15:38] turn off adblock plus [15:38] or customizegoogle [15:38] don't have those on [15:38] using Opera [15:38] we use click tracking provided by google analytics, so are you filtering it then? [15:38] Konqueror did the same though [15:39] connecting directly to internet [15:39] no proxy [15:39] i just tried locally here, the redirection is still working [15:39] on the blank redirected page, look at the source [15:39] you can find your redirection url in there and just manually visit it [15:39] hmm, lemme see what my router thinks it's doing [15:39] thanks for the help [15:40] no prob [15:40] Daviey, perhaps can we have it list proper URL on that blank page you think? [15:40] this is unfortunately a common problem that some people run into [15:40] found the problem [15:40] what was it? [15:40] says it can't find urchinTracker [15:40] which is part of the javascript [15:41] so my router must be filtering [15:41] so at some point that web host for google analytics must have filtered it [15:41] yeah people like you make it hard to have us obey bandwidth rules :) [15:41] and track usage [15:44] heh ... not intentional was having problems with my router and looks like it's still not working right [16:24] any hd-5500 users? [16:24] r0dzilla, not anymore [16:24] whats up [16:24] I've got two hd-5500's and I can scan and get hd channels [16:24] but I can't seem to get regular channels [16:25] also, may I ask why "not anymore"? ;-) [16:26] I moved, and the only thing I can get is directv [16:26] otherwise i'd use it [16:26] ah [16:26] i loved my hd-5500 [16:26] what do you mean regular channels? [16:26] just re-did mythbuntu 8.0 yesterday [16:26] non-hd channels [16:26] i'm going to guess that means non digital channels [16:27] yes [16:27] ok [16:27] here is what's wierd [16:27] did you setup the hd-5500 as an analog card in mythtv-setup? [16:27] no, dvb [16:27] thats your problem [16:27] IIRC you need to set it up as both [16:27] remember though that the analog portion of the 5500 is a software based card [16:28] ah, so if I have a pvr-250 I may want to keep that in?, that would be 3 cards [16:28] I only ever used mine as a digital card because I had hardware encoders for analog [16:28] two 5500's and one pvr-250 [16:28] yea i'd keep that in [16:28] and don't use the analog parts of the 5500's [16:29] I'm currently just getting the free hd channels that you don't have to pay for digital cable [16:31] my cable co gives me the local hd channels, music channels and a few other channels in 480i just so they can be widescreen ;) [16:32] but the interesting thing is the digital line-up for my cable-co on schedules direct has different channel numbers than the free ones they provide without paying for digital cable [16:33] kinda wierd [16:33] but theres only so many free digital channels [16:35] gotta go get me another 5200 or 6200 card, my 5200 card died [16:35] and the 440mx card in right now isn't cutting it lol [16:37] yea the channel number difference is normal [16:37] you can fix it if you really want [16:37] yeah I think I saw where I can edit it at schedules direct [16:38] are you getting channel data for them? [16:38] not all [16:39] what you want to do then [16:40] is go into mythweb, settings, channel info [16:40] and in there, you can add the xmlid for the channel [16:41] will do [16:42] also trying to figure out why it's showing three inputs when I only have two cards atm [16:43] when I go into menu in live tv it shows 3 inputs for some reason [16:43] does it show 3 inputs in mythweb? [16:43] err [16:43] mythweb/status [16:43] Sounds like one digital tuner, one analog [16:44] s/inputs/encoders/ [16:44] Where default # of encoders for a digital tuner = 2 [16:44] probably right [16:45] mythweb status actually shows 4 encoders [16:46] any way to disable the analog ones if I'm going to add the pvr-250 back? [16:47] r0dzilla, you would need to delete them from mythtv-setup [16:47] just delete the analog ones [16:47] I don't have any analogs setup, just two dvb cards [16:47] r0dzilla: DVB cards are digital tuners-- by default in .21, each digital tuner is broken out into two *encoders* [16:48] for multirec purposes [16:48] iamlindoro, really? [16:48] didn't know that [16:48] yes. [16:48] sweet [16:48] so that is why there is a "maximum recordings" field? [16:48] i never got to use mine on .21 [16:48] You can up it up to five in mythtv-setup, or edit the source code and make it as many as you like [16:48] set at 2 if I remember [16:48] r0dzilla: correct [16:49] That is with the caveat that the # of recordings must all be on the same multiplex [16:49] so two 5500's could record 4 shows at the same time? [16:49] ie if you try to record four things from four multiplexes, that won't work, but if you try to record four programs that exist across two multiplexes, that will work fine [16:50] r0dzilla: Yes, presuming those four shows were on now more than two muxes [16:50] interesting, so the 4 encoders are all digital [16:50] Yes. [16:51] what do you mean by multiplexes? [16:52] Heh, this is basic digital TV theory, you should do some googling. Each "channel" in digital television, which is a 6 Mhz slice of bandwidth, can have multiple programs within it. In essence, in a digital television scheme, multiple of what *you* see as channels are multiplexed into a single channel width of bandwidth [16:52] ie in digital TV schemes, 6-8 SD channels are often multiplexed into a single channel width, and would all be on the same mux, and this recordable with a single tuner card in mythtv .21 [16:53] er thus [16:53] interesting [16:53] is there a special reason why mythtv is shipped out with xfce? [16:54] But since you're in the US if you're using 5500s (which are not, technically speaking, DVB cards btw) most muxes suck here [16:54] avihayb: Mythtv isn't shipped with any WM... perhaps you mean mythbuntu? [16:54] yeah I heard saw something a couple months back about cable co's trying to cram more channels in [16:54] iamlindoro yes, I do [16:54] r0dzilla: Yes, that's relevant here-- essentially muxing more channels into each 6 Mhz slice [16:55] and decreasing signal quality... [16:55] not signal quality, bitrate [16:55] ah [16:55] bitrate relates directly to visual artifacting/quality [16:55] lower bitrate = crappier [16:56] more channels per mux = lower bitrate = ewwwwwww [16:56] yeah that's what I was trying to say, just used wrong terms lol [16:56] It's ok, it gets confusing [16:56] but makes more sense once you wrap your head around it [16:57] seems the new mythtv has made quite a few leaps over previous versions [16:58] and explains why options I'm reading about in how-to's don't show up on this version lol [16:58] yep, it's pretty different... .22 will probably be still-more-different [16:58] since there's a lot of new visual bling in store for that + qt4 port [17:00] thanks for the info iamlindoro and tgm4883_laptop, going to work on the box some more, put the pvr-250 back in, on-card analog encoding > offloading to cpu ;) [17:01] np [17:17] damn, I have a problem [17:18] I want to make a fresh installation of a linux ?ubuntu mythtv installation [17:19] now I'm stuck because I cand decide on a flavor [17:19] the system is abit underspeced for KDE, [17:20] xfce dosn't natively support smb:// browsing [17:20] and then there's ugly. [17:20] sory, I mean gnome [17:31] avihayb: It uses xfce because it's light and fast and still relatively easy to use, and regard SMB browsing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xfce+samba === avihayb_ is now known as avihayb [18:07] iamlindoro: thanks, I've been searching for that thread [18:12] vbu: what mirror were you redirected to? [18:20]  hey - can someone here help me out with making a package quickly [18:20] its the latest v4l-dvb modules - i have a package built but then get some conflicts with modules.symbols [18:29] sorry bout that was making a cup of tea [18:29] http://us-az.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/ [18:29] that one [19:33] anyone around for a question? [19:33] !ask [19:33] thanks [19:34] :) [19:34] Is there away to install just the control center..I already have myth installed? [19:34] yes. sudo aptitude mythbuntu-control-centre. but it doesnt work well if you built mythtv from source [19:36] ok thanks i installed from a package...I will give it a try can't do any more than screw it up..thanks again [20:39] I was thinking what are the differencies between knoppmyth and mythbuntu. [20:40] I know that there is 0.20.2 version of MyhtTV in the latest knoppmyth and 0.21 in the latest mythbuntu, but are there softwares like MythBurn, MythWeb, MythStream, MythStreamTV, nuv2disc and nuvexport in latest mythbuntu? [20:43] termant1: Yes, of course. MythBurn/web are official plugins, and included in every myth distro. NuvExport is a semi-official tool, and MythStream is an unofficial plugin. Both are included in Mythbuntu. Nuv2Disc should be totally unnecessary with the addition of MythArchive, another official myth plugin. [20:44] OK. [20:47] And speaking as someone who is very friendly w/ the author of Knoppmyth, and I think he does a great job, Mythbuntu is more up to date and a bit more tightly integrated at the moment. [20:49] OK. Nice to hear. :-) [20:50] I am currently running self compiled MythTv 0.20.2-fixes backend in my Debian Etch and planning to distinguish the TV recording function from file server function to two different boxes. [20:51] And I am planning to switch to MythTV 0.21 too. :-) [20:59] I have one transponder that has two channels on it..... [20:59] anyone had any problems installing mythbuntu 8.04? [21:00] both of them have artifacts and the sound pops almost continously [21:00] after install i get the error grub error 15 [21:00] So far I have though that there could be MBA and SBE. MBA has all TV tuners and SBA has file serving. MBE turns off on idle state. All recordings are set on SBE and watched from SBE. Is this kind of system possible? [21:02] FIXED: So far I have though that there could be MBE and SBE. MBE has all TV tuners and SBE has file serving. MBE turns off on idle state. All recordings are set on SBE and watched from SBE. Is this kind of system possible? [21:02] Sorry. :-( [21:03] hi [21:07] i have some problem with my backend http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16059/ [21:08] looks like the sql is not working but i dont know why [21:09] any suggestions ? [21:11] I found this: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2004-August/052160.html [21:13] hi, i installed a fresh machine from the alternative cd and don't get a configured x-environment, did i something wrong or do i have configure xorg by hand? [21:13] baalsgate: Is it similar? [21:35] termant1 no dont think so [21:36] termant1 wheres the indication it has anything to do with QT ? [21:50] I am trying to follow documentation on getting mythtv working with lirc... most of the documentation I find keeps talking about /dev/hidev0 however this doenst exist? Anyone know what has changed in Ubuntu Hardy to make this dissapear? [22:35] stu, what documentation talks about /dev/hidev0? [22:36] I closed all the windows but I will try find them again.... I am trying to get my iMac working with MythTV [22:37] what I have read about creating a lircrc is to use irrecord to listen to /dev/usb/hidev0 or /dev/hiddev0 during the configuration phase [22:38] hmm [22:39] maybe it's something imac specific, but that is kinda strange [22:41] this for example http://blog.mricon.com/2008/04/setting-up-apple-remote-control-with-f9.html [22:42] i\m trying to find instructions on how to setup the imac remote to work with mythtv... I have the remote controlling volume/totem etc at the moment without the use of lirc [22:43] and apparently the gpio modules have been removed from Hardy which is a problem - no idea what that means [22:44] stu, thats using Fedora [22:44] yes I know.... but if there are no Hardy instructions what can I do but look to generic instructions [22:45] thats just an example, I have seen lots of documentation that refers to /dev/hidev0 [22:45] MythbuntuGuest52, under what situation? [22:45] MythbuntuGuest52, doe you have a previous os on there? [22:45] it should show up as /dev/lirc0 [22:45] or some extenuating partitioning related circumstances [22:45] tgm4883_laptop: I dont have that [22:46] stu, you trying to use hidraw stuff i expect [22:46] that stuff changed for 2.6.24 [22:46] superm1: thats what I expect... I have /dev/input/event4 which when cat'd gives output when I press buttons [22:46] right [22:46] so where's the issue? [22:46] but I cant use irrecord with /dev/input/event4 [22:46] why? [22:46] so I cant setup a config file [22:47] some kind of error reading /dev/input/event4 [22:47] try it sudo'ed [22:47] you want me to try again and give you the error? [22:47] hangon let me get the exact error [22:49] hmm, actually it seems to be doing a bit better (I just finished re-installing) [22:50] now why do you really need to irrecord a remote in the first place? [22:50] i thought one was shipped for apple remotes [22:50] one what? [22:50] a lircd.conf [22:50] when you dpkg-reconfigure lirc [22:50] and pick your apple remote [22:50] there is a macmini... which I chose [22:50] it should populate /etc/lirc/lircd.conf with an include [22:51] and that include should include a remote somewhere in /usr/share/lirc [22:51] yes there is an include in lircd.conf [22:52] yeah look at the file it's including [22:52] I cant irxevent though because I dont have a lircrc [22:52] it should cover you hopefully already [22:52] ok, so I am missing the lircrc then [22:52] if you just need to make a lircrc, run mythbuntu-lirc-generator once, and then create the lircrc in ~/.lirc/irxevent [22:52] and add that to ~/.lircrc as an include (there is a skeleton already made by mlg) [22:53] it will create stuff that should work in different apps though [22:53] so you dont need to use irxevent [22:55] I ran mythbuntu....generator and I have all these files [22:56] whats the purpose of the irxevent bit ? [22:56] so irxevent intercepts ALL button presses and sends them as X events [22:56] whereas all those other files use native lirc functionality [22:56] and send them to individual apps [22:56] I dont follow your instruction: create the lircrc in ~/.lirc/irxevent [22:56] and add that to ~/.lircrc as an include [22:57] so if you want to use irxevent, you need to create a lircrc for it in ~/.lirc/irxevent (as a new file) [22:57] you want me to touch .lirc/irxevent [22:57] and then the top level ~/.lircrc has to include it [22:57] look at ~/.lircrc, it should make more sense [22:57] (assuming you are on 8.04....) [22:58] hum [22:58] oops, wrong channel. [22:58] you can hum here if you want [22:58] it's okay [22:58] I understand .lircrc and I understand it is including other files for other applications.... if I want to use irxevent I need to create a file called irxevent in .lirc/ and then include it .lircrc ? [22:59] well that's the structure currently used [22:59] you can alternatively wipe away all the stuff there [22:59] and do it your own way [22:59] ok, I was just trying to understand the way you had worded it :) [22:59] I dont understand what irxevent is at all... [22:59] but mythbuntu-lirc-generator might overwrite it, so using an include is usually a better way [23:00] if you dont understand it, then dont worry about it [23:00] the way things are created right now should work for your general case [23:00] ok let me give it a go [23:00] you might need to update your device in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf [23:00] with it's event number [23:01] even though macmini conf is included ? [23:02] /etc/lirc/hardware.conf != /etc/lirc/lircd.conf [23:02] in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf I have include /usr/share/lirc/remotes/apple/lircd.conf.macmini [23:03] that include file has: include /usr/share/lirc/remotes/apple/lircd.conf.macmini [23:03] oops [23:03] that include file has: pre_data 0x87EEFB [23:03] gap 211995 [23:03] which I believe is the important stuff? [23:04] you still need to modify /etc/lirc/hardware.conf [23:04] that's all though [23:04] what should I be putting in hardware.conf [23:04] modify the REMOTE_DEVICE variable [23:05] to put in the event device you found [23:05] that you could cat [23:05] event device, sorry I dont follow? from cat /dev/input/event4 ? [23:05] yup that's it [23:05] /dev/input/event4 [23:05] that's exactly what you put in that variable [23:05] ahhh [23:06] right.. now I /etc/init.d/lirc restart and it should work ? [23:07] do that and then restart myth frontend [23:07] and yeah it should be working in theory [23:07] ill test it out in mplayer - not even installed myth yet [23:07] sure mplayer should too [23:07] you can look at mplayer mappings in ~/.lirc/mplayer [23:07] nope, not working [23:08] try irw [23:08] and make sure you can read buttons from that [23:08] irw shows no output [23:09] well then it sounds like you might have to irrecord possibly then [23:09] unfortunately [23:10] irrecord -d /dev/input/event4 /etc/lirc/lircd.conf ? [23:11] the man file for irrecord doesnt give any indication of correct syntax [23:12] can I copy and paste 6 lines into here ? [23:13] a pastebin woudl be better [23:13] ah, with irrecord -H macmini -d /dev/input/event4 it went a bit further - now I get [23:13] irrecord: gap not found, can't continue [23:13] irrecord: closing '/dev/input/event4' [23:18] odd it changed from event4 to event1.... [23:18] now I get: irrecord: error reading '/dev/input/event1' [23:18] irrecord: closing '/dev/input/event1' [23:18] Segmentation fault [23:25] I'm having issues with creating a DVD from QDVDauthor [23:42] can anyone help me with .irrecord: gap not found, can't continue during irrecord ? [23:45] I am having some trouble with XMLTV not picking up some channels: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797428 Would anyone be able to help/advise? [23:48] umm, guys, I just installed mythTV on a fresh xubuntu installation(more or less)... [23:49] now when I start up the system there is a process called mysqld_safe that wants 100PU [23:49] 100 % cpu [23:49] it auto spawns if I kill it [23:52] the backend isn't runing... [23:56] I should have RTFMed... [23:59] how do I reload my .lircrc ? will restarting lirc do that ?