/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/31/#ubuntu-ops.txt

zzasdhmm00:46
Jack_Sparrowzzasd May we help you00:47
zzasdnot you00:47
zzasdbut some one else can00:47
Jack_SparrowFine..00:47
PriceChildzzasd: what do you need?00:47
zzasdNot to be rude but i dont care much for you00:47
zzasd:)00:47
zzasdprice can we take this via pm00:47
PriceChildoh is this flipster?00:48
Jack_SparrowPrice it was my ban00:48
Jack_Sparrowyep00:48
zzasdzzz exactly00:48
zzasdwhy i would rather not speak to you00:48
zzasdand there is also a kline on my nick when i was told that i would be unbanned if i came back in 2 weeks00:48
Jack_SparrowI checked.. I removed my ban as promised00:50
elkywe have nothing to do with klines00:50
zzasdwell whats up with the kline00:50
PriceChildzzasd: Unfortunately I will not be around long enough to talk to you about things, but I would appreciate knowing why you feel you can't talk to Jack_Sparrow.00:51
PriceChildelky: Jack_Sparrow: please see ML00:51
Jack_SparrowPriceChild np.. HE thinks I left my ban up..00:51
Jack_SparrowML ?00:52
zzasdwell how come when i cannect with flip it says badpassword that would be a kline00:52
=== zzasd is now known as flip
flipnvm00:52
PriceChildThat is not a kline.00:52
flipany way uh whats the open ssl packages00:52
PriceChildflip: this isn't a support channel.00:53
flipwell no one in the support channel seems to know00:53
flipdont want to get banned for repeating my self again00:53
elkytry asking somewhere else like the forums or the mailing list then00:54
PriceChildflip: everyone here is in the support channel, so if noone there knows, nobody here knows.00:56
PriceChildjacmailing list00:56
PriceChildJack_Sparrow: mailing list00:56
Jack_Sparrowk00:56
elkyPriceChild, a new mail since 6 hours ago?00:59
Jack_SparrowPriceChild Sorry to sound dumb here.. but what about the mailing list?  I have never used them01:00
PriceChildelky: yep01:01
elkyPriceChild, still en transit to me then01:01
PriceChildJack_Sparrow: you should be subscribed to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-irc01:01
Jack_Sparrowk..01:01
elkyor at least checking the archives occasionally01:01
Jack_SparrowJust subscribed...01:02
ubottuDaisuke_Laptop called the ops in #kubuntu (Taza)01:17
Mezmneptok, good call on the ban. I only removed as I hadnt fully read lastlog yet (was followed by a ping)01:22
mneptokMez: he had been asking for it for a while.01:24
* Mez hadnt read the log.01:24
Mezbut would have placed a ban after reading it01:24
mneptokMez: as you can tell by his last comment, i gave him plenty of opportunities to change behavior.01:24
Mezyou got there first01:24
elkysomeone mentioned him earlier too01:26
elkyif it's who i think you're referring to01:26
mneptokTaza01:29
ubottuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu ()01:56
Hobbseeoh, nasty.04:55
Hobbseethe new services have broken my aliases04:55
naliothHobbsee: yes, it sucks, too.04:57
Hobbseenalioth: i thought they were supposed to be great and all singing and all dancing?04:59
naliothHobbsee: no, broken aliases suck05:00
Hobbseeoh, i see.05:02
Hobbseeooh, topic append, too05:02
Hobbseeoh, boring.  they require valid email addresses now.05:04
naliothshould cut down greatly on troll accounts05:06
Hobbseewoot!  finally an enforce mode, too05:06
Hobbseeemail memos!05:07
Hobbseehurrah!05:07
naliothmakes GuestXXXXX nicks upon enforcement05:07
Hobbseelike oftc does.  yeah.05:08
Hobbseenot that i really need it now though05:08
jussi01!mce is foo06:10
ubottuI'll remember that, jussi0106:10
jussi01!-mint06:10
ubottumint is <alias> derivatives - added by LjL on 2008-01-24 22:57:2706:10
jussi01!-derivatives06:11
ubottuderivatives aliases: mint, linuxmce, ultimate - added by LjL on 2008-01-24 22:57:06 - last edited by Pici on 2008-05-22 18:07:0006:11
jussi01!mce is <alias>derivatives06:11
ubottuI know nothing about mce is <alias>derivative yet, jussi0106:11
jussi01!no, mce is <alias>derivatives06:11
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0106:11
jussi01!mce06:11
ubottuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate06:11
Myrttimoin07:26
ubottuFlannel called the ops in #ubuntu (graxaim)08:01
Myrttihumm08:02
elkyrmrf'er coming08:02
Myrtti!danger08:02
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!08:02
Myrttiok, so it works08:02
elkyin PM:08:02
elky<graxaim> no thanks.08:02
elky<graxaim> =D08:02
elky<graxaim> bye!08:02
graxaimchanged idea08:03
graxaimI am so bored.08:03
naliothbored?08:03
elkythat's not an excuse to ruin other people's day, and possibly lose their data08:03
graxaim^^08:03
Myrttibored????08:03
MyrttiBORED?08:03
graxaimthat's your PoV08:03
MyrttiPOV?08:03
MyrttiBORED?08:04
elkygraxaim, that's the Ubuntu POV.08:04
naliothpoint of view, Myrtti08:04
Myrttiomlawd08:04
tonyyarussoNo, that is the Ubuntu community's POV, and while here you will follow it.08:04
elkyif you cannot comply with it, we must ask you to leave.08:04
Myrttinalioth: I know08:04
graxaimyeap it's 4AM in the morning, it's freezin' around here08:04
elkywe do not care08:04
MyrttiBORED?08:04
graxaimI will follow if I WANT and WHENEVER I WANT, I just don't care.. you can ban me I will just go away =D08:04
* elky calms Myrtti08:04
elkygraxaim, then please leave any and all ubuntu channels now.08:04
Myrttigraxaim: see you on the other side then08:04
graxaimyou can G-LINE me, you can AKILL me, do whatever you please =D08:04
Myrttita-tah08:05
graxaimactually, I will start fearing all this stuff when IRC starts popping out from my computer screen...08:05
grammthanks ops08:05
Myrtti/csremove graxaim rm -rf /dev/graxaim "ooops"08:06
elkygramm, who are you?08:06
grammelky: a guy that has (in the past) foolishly done the command that graxiam uttered08:06
elky:)08:07
grammelky: i really have no tolerance for any of that stuff... it makes linux as a whole look bad, and especially ubuntu08:07
elkyyeah, we know08:07
grammis there a way you can get the bots to respond to that particular string?  something like a warning perhaps?08:08
tonyyarussogramm: Technically speaking, we probably could, but my guess is that it wouldn't be particularly effective, since people would just start obscuring it with scripting and escape codes or something dumb like that.08:09
Myrttiyup, and we do have !danger08:10
grammtonyyarusso: is there a way the devs can build a warning into the "rm" command, for any path argument that resolves to / ?08:10
elkyit wont stop the ones that will only go to PM to get it through either08:10
tonyyarussogramm: no idea frankly08:10
Hobbseegramm: it already does, afaik.08:11
* Hobbsee finds something to try it with08:11
Myrttirm --preserve-root08:11
grammelky: good point, Hobbsee heh, cool.08:11
grammwell, im off to bed, thanks again.08:12
Myrttistraight from 'man rm'08:12
naliothgramm: there are many commands that are dangerous if misused08:12
Hobbseegramm: okay, my bad, it does wrok08:12
Hobbsee-bash: /bin/rm: No such file or directory08:12
Hobbseeroot@saturn:/# ls08:12
Hobbsee-bash: ls: command not found08:12
Hobbseeworks very quickly, too08:12
grammHobbsee: humph, good brainstorm idea.08:12
Myrttialias rm=rm --preserve-root08:13
elkyHobbsee, on a small system without much in /home, sure08:13
Hobbseeelky: well, this was a gutsy chroot, so...08:13
Myrttinite, gramm08:13
grammnite Myrtti, all08:14
Hobbseegramm: already filed as https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/17428308:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 174283 in coreutils "rm does not preserve root by default" [Wishlist,Confirmed]08:14
Hobbseebah.08:14
Myrtti/me wonders...08:16
elkyoh, i notices the loser continued to pm me after he quit here...08:20
elky<graxaim> you didn't let me finish!08:20
elky<graxaim> lol08:20
elky<graxaim> I was pouring some more sarcasm around...08:20
elky* graxaim has quit (Client Quit)08:20
=== elky is now known as elkbuntu
ompaulsomething went wrong08:41
ompaulin two years of saturday morning unbans I have never had that happen08:41
elkbuntuhad what happen?08:42
ompaulsome how I selected bans I had no intention of unbanning08:42
elkbuntuooh08:42
ompaulI have rebanned two that need to be there08:43
elkbuntuoh i see08:43
ompaulnote my last word before I left08:44
ompaulI knew something was wrong so kept as much as I could by killing the session08:44
ompaullooking though the list the worst of those I know of are ban in action08:45
ompaulback08:45
elkbuntudid you get all the proxy vhosts?08:45
ompaulin action08:45
ompaulno idea flipping though the back scroll08:45
elkbuntupowershells.eu for example08:46
elkbuntusilenceisdefeat.org08:46
elkbuntudo you have the full list, or would you like a pastebin?08:47
elkbuntuim not going to go putting any back in, too many cooks i think08:47
ompaulI am putting them back in by searching for them08:48
elkbuntuompaul, you rather just banned *!*@*08:50
ompauldid I08:50
naliothwell, it should be quiet for a while, then  :|08:51
elkbuntuhehehe08:51
elkbuntua lovely 3 minutes08:51
ompaulelkbuntu, full list of proxy shells?08:52
ompaul or vhosts08:52
ompaulor the fullllll list of what I did I have that08:52
elkbuntusure, gimme a min08:52
ompaulI am only looking for the proxy shells but I think I have the worst offenders08:53
elkbuntuhttp://pastebin.ca/IARbE0aM (oops)08:54
elkbuntuonce you've got it, i'll remove the paste.08:55
ompaulelkbuntu, I have that list08:55
ompaulalready08:55
renegade444Hi. I just found out I'm banned from #ubuntu, and I don't know why. I was told that I could ask here and find out what I did wrong.08:55
ompaulI am working form it08:55
ompaulrenegade444, you should not be08:55
ompaulI made a little bobo08:55
ompaulboo boo08:55
ompaul*!*:*08:55
ompaul*!*@*08:55
renegade444you did it to me ompaul? lol08:56
ompaulthat is I banned the whole planet08:56
ompaulyou should be able to join now08:56
renegade444and yes, I'm unbanned now08:56
renegade444thanks08:56
Hobbseebad ompaul.  *sigh* :)08:56
* ompaul bans Hobbsee 08:56
ompaul:P08:56
* Hobbsee can unban herself, at least at the moment.08:57
elkbuntuno need for you to hang around in here, renegade44408:57
renegade444yup, was just logging channel, thanks all08:57
ompaul:P08:57
ompaulI think I got the proxies08:57
elkbuntui really wonder about people who dont think to read up to where things changed when things go awry08:57
ompaulI got one or two of the worst offenders08:58
elkbuntuim inclined to just leave it as is. we'll find the rest as they pop up over the weekend08:58
ompaulyeap08:58
ompaulcheck the list of you see anyone I did not catch go for it08:58
ompaulnow for the bad news08:58
ompaulI am heading out for breakfast08:58
ompaulmy usual Saturday morning feast08:59
ompaulback in a couple of hours08:59
elkbuntuliar. you broke the world and you're running off to exile. admit it.08:59
ompaulhahahaaha08:59
ompaulok you found me out etc08:59
ompaulat least it was not on purpose :-)09:00
ompaulhehehe09:00
elkbuntuexcellent. our agents will be around to find you shortly. they'll be wearing black shades.09:00
Hobbseewith needles?09:00
elkbuntuif you call those things protruding from the 2x4 to be 'needles', sure09:00
ompaulI have the pen with the red flash I am the original man in black09:00
ompaulanyay away with me09:01
* Hobbsee snorts09:02
* SWAT wanted to erase the last 24 hours from ompaul's mind, but accidentally erased the last 24 years09:37
Myrtti/me notes graxaim just joined #xubuntu and is happy that she has ops flag now there too09:40
elkbuntuhaha09:41
elkbuntutime for mind games09:41
* elkbuntu whistles innocently09:42
bazhanggrazaim joined ubuntu a bit back then just left09:42
elkbuntuyes, well he was only ever muted09:42
bazhangerr -z +x09:43
elkbuntuthe kid has imagination...09:45
elkbuntu<graxaim> I thought you would do something more harmful, like banning me forever or maybe even sending me some poo through fedex!09:45
bazhang:)09:46
Myrttilol09:46
Myrtti/me wonders what he's up to09:50
Hobbsee"no good"09:50
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
stdinnalioth: (or anyone with access to ubot3), we need a replacement bot in pretty much all channels11:33
stdinI can't reach the host ubottu is on11:33
stdinwb jussi0111:59
SNuxollhttp://pastebin.com/m1efff6a12:00
Seeker`ouch12:02
SNuxolluhm, just a little ;(12:02
Seeker`I cant do anything about that myself sadly12:03
Seeker`stdin: *prod*12:03
jpdsSNuxoll: which room?12:04
Seeker`ah, someone with super powers :)12:04
jrib!test12:04
stdinI have no +o in #ubuntu12:04
stdin(which is probably a good thing for my sanity)12:04
Seeker`#ubuntu jpds12:04
jpdsSNuxoll: looks like he's gone12:05
SNuxolljpds, yes12:06
jribstdin: I think PriceChild could help you lose your sanity again12:07
Seeker`jpds: what would you have done if they were still in the channel?12:08
SNuxollanyways, I'm off to bed12:10
SNuxolldeal with that however you see fit, I need some sleep12:11
jpdsSeeker`: well, might of removed, but..12:11
Seeker`..?12:11
jpdsnevermind12:12
* ompaul is back12:17
ompauland looking into #ubuntu I see something I don't like want your first ban forward from me?12:17
ompauljrib, check the real name of that user as soon as you give them the doc they are going to be banned12:18
ompaulsorry the ident12:18
* ompaul wants to shoot pidgin for not taking global values and having users take care of it themselves12:19
jribompaul: I'll speak with him about it12:19
ompauljrib, then I won't do anything12:20
stdinjust so we all know, nubotu there is my bot. seeing as ubottu and ubot3 aren't here, and no other bots are, I've put it into #ubuntu and #kubuntu12:22
stdinit has basic capability (factoids only), hopefully it won't need to be used for long12:23
jussi01Hopefully my server will be back up soon - aparrently the isp is changing ips around, Im trying to get more info on eta, but hopefully soon12:24
jribompaul: handjob is apparently his username, do you know of an easy way for him to change that on pidgin?12:24
ompauljrib, I gladly know nothing of pidgin12:26
ompaulother than the colour purple12:26
jribheh12:26
ompauljrib, it appears that they choose names in the startup window12:27
ompaulso even the screen name can be changed if nothing else12:27
jribompaul: "username" setting in advanced seems to do it12:28
ompaulack12:28
jribhmm, it always feels strange when the joins and quits fill up my window without a single message12:32
jussi01jrib: you have a small window?12:33
jribjussi01: yeah ~25 lines12:33
* ompaul uses a gui app in full screen mode12:35
ompaulold timeritis12:35
jussi01ompaul: me also :)12:35
ompaulMyrtti, ^^ new phrase for ya12:35
jussi01usually anyway12:35
jribI can't just stare at irc, I need a browser and maybe a text editor too12:35
jussi01jrib: get 2 screens like me...12:36
jribjussi01: yeah, I should12:36
PriceChildbtw would appreciate feedback on what i proposed to the ML12:38
* PriceChild runs off again12:38
jribany idea who greeko13 was?13:03
bazhangyeah georgij13:05
bazhangbanned for abuse/piracy talk/offtopic/foul language iirc13:06
Myrttihuagh. hot.13:32
MyrttiI was thinking that I might start running a supybot on kapsi13:35
ompaulruiboon, what can we do for ya?13:43
ompaulbazhang, scroll back here a couple of hours13:44
ompaulPriceChild, Myrtti ^^ to the point where I typed help and then forward13:44
ompaulruiboon, again what can we do for ya?13:44
ruiboonompaul: the ubuntu bot (donno what it is called now) seems to be missing in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-bugs13:44
ompaulahh the bot proper is dead for a couple of hours (blame its isp)13:45
ompaulwe have a temp bot in #ubuntu13:45
ruiboonompaul: i see. thanks for that info(:13:45
ompaulcheers13:45
ruibooncheers too13:45
Myrttiompaul: hm?13:51
ompaulmy mass unban which was not on purpose therefore I can claim an accident still not sure what I did13:51
bazhangompaul, graxaim is georgij/greeko?13:52
Myrttiyeah, noticed it13:52
Myrttibazhang: nope13:52
bazhangthanks! that's informative :)13:53
jpdsrobg_'s back?13:57
jpdsand confusing nette13:58
ompauljpds, let me look14:00
ompaulI had a serious accident with banning eariler14:00
ompaulor unbanning more to the point14:00
ompaulnothing too bad yet14:01
Garydid you unban all?14:05
ompaulno14:05
ompaulclient tried to but I quit14:05
ompaulI had to reintroduce some14:05
ompaulno Idea how it picked all of them14:06
* ompaul is kinda of annoyed about that14:06
stdinI just got word, ubottu won't be back up until monday14:07
stdinso we need to organise a replacement14:08
Hobbseeouch14:09
Seeker`:O14:11
* ompaul goes to #ubuntui14:15
MyrttiI would like to try to run a replacement bot for some of the channels anyway14:26
Myrttiwould someone want to walk me thru it?14:27
Myrttinow that I'm using kapsi to irc, I might as well use myrtti.fi to run a supybot14:27
* Hobbsee wonders when canonical will host the bot.14:27
PriceChildI've been poking elmo semi repeatedly.14:28
ompaulrobj_ has been given a serious removal14:37
ompaulsorry14:37
ompaulrobg_ has been given a serious removal14:37
PriceChildIf nobody wants to comment on my ML by this evening I'll decide everyone agrees.14:38
PriceChildby this evening, i mean 7-8 hours depending on what i feel like :)14:38
HobbseePriceChild: general agreement from here, but i'm not sure that removing people who are on irc still, but not on those channels, is so helpful, just in case fo emergencies.14:40
ompaulHobbsee, publish and be damned14:40
ompaulhehe14:40
PriceChildHobbsee: That is not what I have suggested.14:40
PriceChildHobbsee: I'm talking about people who have disappeared, or who have resigned.14:41
* ompaul fail!14:41
HobbseePriceChild: guess i'm just wondering on your criteria of 'resigned' then.14:41
PriceChild"  - By not active, I don't mean those who are still involved with ubuntu14:41
PriceChildin devel."14:41
PriceChildMaybe I should have made that a little clearer..14:41
MyrttiI didn't understand that at all14:42
Hobbseeneither, really14:42
MyrttiI don't know about you native speakers but that "in devel" is a bit vague14:42
Hobbseei assumed it meant people who were still working for canonical, who had ops in the main channels ages ago,b ut aren't there now14:42
PriceChildit'll all be done case by case14:43
nubotuIn #ubuntu, nanoprobe said: !anyone is there a way to enable Fn key in linux so i can use it?14:43
PriceChildmy criteria of "resigned" is you and seveas basically, who have submitted resignations to the lists14:43
elkbuntui dont consider hobbsee fully resigned however.14:44
Myrttion holiday14:44
* Hobbsee looks at exactly what her mail said14:44
PriceChildI guess I misunderstood "I've decided to step down from regular operator duties,14:44
jribwhy not create a list of the users whose ops will be removed, post that to the mailing list, and if no one objects after a few days, do it14:44
PriceChildin all user-land channels."14:44
PriceChildthen14:44
Hobbseeregular != emergencies, last i checked.14:45
elkbuntui'd hate for there to be a situation where she could help out if it were to the point of desperation -- which does not fall under regular14:45
* elkbuntu speaks hobbseeish14:45
Hobbseeelkbuntu: which is relatively common, in australian circles, too14:45
Hobbseeelkbuntu: :)14:45
PriceChildI have frequented those channels less in recent months, so it makes14:45
PriceChildlittle sense for me to be one of the listed operators, and one of the14:45
PriceChildmediators, of those channels, and of #ubuntu-ops.14:45
PriceChildI guess I misunderstood the above also then....?14:46
* Hobbsee thought we had lists of active ops somewhere.14:46
Hobbseeoh well.  take me off then, and make sure you're around to deal with AU day if elky's not there.14:46
PriceChildSo by listed operators, you didn't mean the access lists?14:47
elkbuntuHobbsee, note that i dont op from work14:47
Hobbseeelkbuntu: even better.  so pricey has a big job ahead of him.14:47
elkbuntuyup14:47
Myrtti*sigh*14:47
* Hobbsee wasn't aware that there would be a massive pruning of the lists, as there hasn't been in years.14:48
elkbuntuespecially since the last time i did op stuff from work, i got held up for it because i rushed due to being at work14:48
Hobbseebut really, i want to be off the main lists in userland.  if there comes up as an emergency, and no one else has ops, then it's probably still a good idea to be able to respond.14:49
Hobbseethat being said, i've resigned from being a general presence in thsoe sort of channels, and being able to be relied upon to actually do ops stuff there.14:49
PriceChildHobbsee: would you like to rescind your resignation?14:49
* Hobbsee was thinking of doing a more freenode-staffer-type-approach14:49
PriceChildPardon?14:50
Hobbsee"act only in absolute emergencies, otherwise let others deal with it"14:50
Hobbseeif that makes sense.14:50
MyrttiI'm just getting more confused, and going to go have a nap.14:50
PriceChildI think that is insulting Hobbsee.14:50
PriceChildI'm going to take a break, will be back later.14:50
Hobbsee....14:50
* Hobbsee thought that was precisely what freenode said it was going to do, when it was on the access lists?14:51
Hobbseecover emergencies, but leave the running of the channels to the GC's as much as possible?14:51
* Hobbsee wonders how, exactly, that is insulting?14:51
nanoprobehello @al14:52
nanoprobeall14:52
ompaulnanoprobe, how can we help ya14:52
nanoprobeeh, i'm completelly new to linux14:53
ompaulso why are you in the -ops channel14:53
ompaul?14:53
nanoprobeit seems that i'm in wrong channel, or?14:53
ompaul#ubuntu is for help14:53
ompauland help with ubuntu14:53
nanoprobethank you14:54
nanoprobebye14:54
ompaulyour welcome14:54
PriceChildHobbsee: just because freenode's decisions do not agree with your own, or because they do not act using access, visibly, or in the way that you think we should be, it doesn't mean we are basically lazy and do not try to resolve problems presented to us.15:46
elkbuntuPriceChild, she was just referencing the staff model of interacting with channels15:47
Hobbseeelkbuntu: ++15:47
Hobbseeapologies if i used the incorrect terminology - i'm concurrently doing an assignment.15:48
Hobbseebut, last i knew, i got the idea right.15:48
PriceChildBeing as outspoken as you have been in the past, I think it best if you try to be much clearer.15:48
Hobbseei also think it's best if you do not throw unfounded accusations at me, and did not attempt to take my words out of context.  Somehow, elkbuntu managed to understand what i meant, so clearly it did make sense.15:50
Hobbseeof course, if you're predisposed to take whatever i say, and make it to be what you want it to say, then I cannot help you there.15:51
elkbuntuHobbsee, you're not innocent of throwing accusations against freenode. it's only natural that they suspect the wolf in the sheep15:51
HobbseePriceChild: please define, in your own words, the staff model of interacting with channels.15:51
Hobbseeelkbuntu: oh, sure.  but i wasn't currently, and thinking that i am every single time i say something is just unhelpful.15:51
PiciI think he just misunderstood15:52
elkbuntuHobbsee, they're not psychic enough to know when... else we'd be troll and spammer free15:52
Hobbseeheh15:53
PriceChildMany apologies if I didn't understand.15:53
nubotugordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu (Lodorius is spamming)15:55
Myrttidamn15:55
PiciSorry, I'll lurk less.15:55
Myrttinp15:56
Pici;)15:56
bazhangnubotu thanks16:34
nosrednaekimuhh ubuntu in #kubuntu please16:37
stdinnosrednaekim: that's what !ops is for16:38
jpdsstdin: damn, you riggered my little red light16:38
nosrednaekimah.. true16:39
stdinjpds: I'm getting highlights whenever someone tries an unknown factoid, that's much worse :p16:39
stdinshould teach me not to have a website with my nick in it though16:42
nosrednaekimheh16:42
Mez_I hate network-manager17:02
bazhangsame here17:02
Mez_Its great17:02
Mez_but its not for some reason using gnome keyring like it does on my eee17:02
Mez_meaning I have to remember the damned random string for the wireless17:03
bazhangI forgot my wallet pass; almost gave up at one point :)17:04
Mez_lol - yeah - kwallet I can cope with. but *sighs*17:04
Mez_had to use one of the magazine CDs to install.17:04
Mez_Maybe I should just go download a copy of kubuntu now17:04
bazhanghehe17:05
Mez_or just boot into vista17:05
bazhangoof17:05
bazhangbadvista.fsf.org17:05
Mez_Lol - Im currently having to sit in the kitchen to use nextdoors wireless to do the initial update17:06
Mez_bazhang - yeah - I know its bad - new laptop today17:06
bazhang:)17:06
Mez_BUT it seems to remember my passwords17:06
bazhangMez_, vista stayed on my computer for all of 20 minutes :)17:06
Mez_And I've got to admit - it is pretty usable (from plugging in an external monitor17:06
stdinI'm going away for the weekend so won't be here to control the bot17:06
Mez_bazhang: Im keeping it for IE testing17:06
stdinso I've added a few admins to it17:06
bazhangs/usable/abusable :)17:06
Mez_hmm17:07
* Mez_ needs to work out how to make ubuntu use the cube instead of the wall17:07
stdin(get ready for mass ping)17:07
bazhangccsm general virtual horizontal desktops set to 417:07
stdinpricechild, nixternal, nalioth, gnomefreak, elkbuntu, jucato, mez, ompaul, pici, myrtti and jpds are all admins for nubotu now, they can get it to join/part whatever17:08
stdinif another bot comes up, just mute or get someone to part it17:08
stdin(it's prefix char is ^ not @, so ^part etc)17:08
ompaulack and thanks17:09
ompaul^join #ubuntu-bugs17:10
nubotuError: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.17:10
ompaulwhoami17:10
ompaul@btlogin17:10
stdintry ^login17:10
ompaul^login17:10
ompaulnothing17:10
stdintry again17:10
bazhang@whoami17:10
stdinremember, it uses ^, so @ doesn't work17:11
stdin^whoami17:11
nubotustdin17:11
ubot3stdin: I don't recognize you.17:11
stdinright, that's a conflict :p17:11
ompaul^login17:11
nubotuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.17:11
ompaulI will fight you :)17:11
stdinAGSGAFSEFAWEDF!17:11
ompaulconflict my big toe17:11
Mez_what happened to ubottu?17:11
Mez_@whoami17:12
bazhang^whoami17:12
ubot3bazhang: I don't recognize you.17:12
nubotuI don't recognize you.17:12
Mez_^whoami17:12
bazhang^login17:12
ubot3Mez_: I don't recognize you.17:12
nubotuI don't recognize you.17:12
nubotuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.17:12
stdinMez: server died and won't be up until monday17:12
* Mez_ sighs17:12
bazhangubottu knows me :)17:12
ompaul^login17:13
nubotuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.17:13
Mez_dont know what my password is17:13
ompaulhostmask is not right17:13
ompaulmore likely17:13
stdinthere isn't one, I'm adding hostmasks for those that aren't recognised17:13
stdinompaul, Mez_: try ^whoami17:14
Mez_Mez*!?=mez@ubuntu/member/mez17:14
Mez_^whoami17:14
nubotumez17:14
ubot3Mez_: I don't recognize you.17:14
Mez_hmm17:14
ompaul^whoami17:14
nubotuompaul17:14
ubot3ompaul: ompaul17:14
Mez_nalioth, I'm muting ubot3 for now.17:14
elkbuntuMez, it's anal about your nick17:15
elkbuntuie, ghost yourself17:15
Mez_elkbuntu: oh, I dont mind it not recognising me17:15
Mez_but - It's annoying when you get two bots replying to one command17:16
nixternalhrmm17:16
nixternal^whoami17:16
nubotuI don't recognize you.17:16
Mez_elkbuntu: I wont ghost myself - or Ill flood out on next connect17:16
nixternalI don't recognize you either, my name is Rich, what is yours?17:16
nixternal:p17:16
Mez_I'm just setting up this lappy, and then I'll configure it to connect through my normal connection17:16
stdinnixternal: you aren't identified17:16
nixternal^login17:16
nubotuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.17:16
bazhang:)17:17
stdinnixternal: no, i meant to nickserv17:17
nixternalnubotu: all the chicks tell me that17:17
nubotuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:17
nixternalya I am stdin17:17
stdinyou show as unidentified17:17
Mez_egads.... this last part of the update is uber slow17:17
nixternalorly17:17
stdindid you re-identify after the services restart?17:17
Mez_(aka the last 14% of compiz-fusion-plugins17:18
nixternalinteresting...wonder why I lost my id there17:18
nixternalwhoami17:18
nixternal^whoami17:18
nubotunixternal17:18
nixternalforgot teh Karot :P17:18
bazhang^whoami17:18
nubotuI don't recognize you.17:18
nixternal!info kdebase-workspace intrepid17:19
nubotuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:19
nixternalerr, use the ^ instead stdin?17:19
stdinthere is no !info or !find17:19
nixternalahh17:19
nixternalwhat does it do then?17:19
stdinpython-apt isn't available on the server I'm hosting it on17:19
stdinit does factiods, just about17:19
ompaul^whoami17:20
nixternal!nixternal17:20
nubotuompaul17:20
stdinthe Bugtracker doesn't even work17:20
nubotuOh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!17:20
nixternaloh lord17:20
nixternalhow did he get that damn factoid so quick? :)17:20
naliothMez_: leave the bot alone17:20
ompaul!nixternal17:20
nubotuOh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!17:20
naliothhow will folks input factoids if its muted, Mez_ ?17:20
Mez_nalioth: It can still see the messages?17:21
Mez_and I thought nubotu was being used for the factoids?17:22
stdinif someone has a better working bot, please remove nubotu :)17:23
naliothMez_: if it's muted IN HERE, HOW DOES IT ECHO IN HERE?17:23
stdinit's a very last minute thing17:23
* nalioth headdesks17:23
bazhangso a restart of xchat is in order? nubotu does not recognize me it seems stdin17:23
ompaulbazhang, have you identified to services since they changed17:24
stdinbazhang: probably has an old userdb, just register with it17:24
naliothMez_: ubot3 is in almost a dozen channels.  if someone inputs a factoid in one of them, ubot3 echoes it here.  if it's muted, we never see the echo17:24
bazhangompaul, not sure when that was; will restart asap; thanks stdin :)17:24
stdinbazhang: just /msg nubotu help register17:24
naliothMez_: when we DO see the echo, we input hte factoid into the primary bot17:24
ompaulbazhang, na do this /msg nickserv identify17:24
naliothand wth is nubotu ?17:24
ompaulwith your password after that17:24
ompaulnalioth, a standin for ubottu who has failed17:25
naliothi suggest resuming the name17:25
stdinnalioth: ubottu won't be back until monday, you and ubot3 wern't about and PriceChild said it was ok to use nubotu17:25
naliothok17:25
naliothi suggest ubot* for its nick17:25
stdinand I don't have the nickserv pass for ubottu17:25
naliothto cut down confusion17:26
naliothso ubottu is down because jussi01 is out of town?17:26
stdinno, the ISP screwed up17:26
naliothah, lovely17:27
bazhang^whoami17:27
nubotubazhang17:27
ubot3bazhang: I don't recognize you.17:27
bazhang^login17:27
nubotuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.17:27
stdinthey didn't give notice and were changing the IP address, then said it would be 4 hours, then monday17:27
stdinbazhang: ignore ^login, doesn't really matter17:28
bazhangstdin, thanks :)17:28
naliothMez_: what if one of the channels ubot3 is in calls !ops cuz they're getting clone flooded?17:31
stdin^config supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.chars ^@17:32
ubot3stdin: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.17:32
nubotuOK17:32
stdinthere, it should respond to @ now17:32
stdin@whoami17:32
nubotustdin17:32
bazhang@whoami17:32
nubotubazhang17:32
stdinconflict: resolved17:32
bazhangyay!17:33
* stdin is gone17:39
=== Hobbsee is now known as Guest78382
nixternaldid freenode just poop itself?17:58
Seeker`nixternal: netsplit17:58
nixternalnickserv must have crapped out on that one too then17:59
naliothnixternal: new services ( identify yourself in a new way )17:59
nixternalnalioth: how do I do that?17:59
bazhang^whoami17:59
nalioth  /msg nickserv help identify17:59
ubot3bazhang: I don't recognize you.17:59
bazhang@whoami17:59
nixternalnalioth: /quote nickserv identify $me $passwd18:00
nixternalthat is what it tells me and that is what I do18:00
naliothbut you're not identified  :(18:00
nixternalnickserv doesn't even respond to me now18:00
naliothright18:01
nixternalnice18:01
naliothit's on teh other side of the split18:01
naliothteh awder syde18:01
nixternalhehe18:01
nixternalthat's what I figured18:01
ikoniaassistance please with a bot in #ubuntu18:27
ikoniaubottu is dead18:27
ikonia17:49 -!- malloneza [n=mallonez@103.Red-81-41-244.staticIP.rima-tde.net]18:28
ikoniaannoying bot in #ubuntu - just left but maybe worth stopping for future18:28
Seeker`lo ikonia18:34
ikoniahello18:34
ikoniamorning-ish18:34
bazhanggraxaim a problem before?18:34
ikoniahow did things go last night ?18:35
Seeker`good18:35
Seeker`got some planning done18:35
Seeker`why didn't you go?18:35
naliothbazhang: a bit18:35
bazhangnalioth, thanks :)18:36
bazhangseems I am +f in #kubuntu now18:36
ikoniaSeeker`: I was stuck in work until 8:0018:36
ikoniaby the time I'd got home it was gone 9:3018:36
Seeker`:(18:38
Myrtti^login18:39
Myrtti!info scrot18:57
ompaul!ping18:59
ompaul!test18:59
ompaulcan ubot3 please join #ubuntu19:00
ompaulnalioth, ^^19:01
ompaulwe have nothing19:01
ompaulthere were supposed to be three19:02
ompaulwhat were they 3 was nalioth19:02
ompaultop of the list has hosting problems19:02
ompaulthe one the middle seems to have gotten lost19:02
Myrttiscrumpy jack ♥19:06
ompaulno19:06
ompaulJobs - wanted 1 bot to sit in #ubuntu and do the dirty work, supybots seem to work best19:07
Myrttiompaul: no cider? :-<19:07
ompaulcidre even :)19:08
ompaulnone19:08
naliothompaul: ubot3 can't give you a login, i'm afraid19:12
Myrttinalioth: would you happen to have time to troubleshoot why it's silent as a mushroom in #u19:12
naliothit's just a factoid bot19:12
naliothMyrtti: if you help me19:12
Myrttinalioth: sure19:12
ompaulthere is a bribe19:13
ompaulhehe19:13
Myrttinalioth: cookies?19:13
naliothit works fine in it's other channels19:13
nalioth(where are all the other bots?)19:13
Myrttiinfo works19:13
Myrtti!test19:14
Myrtti!info scrot19:14
naliothoh, it's set not to respond in here19:14
naliothubot3: bot19:15
Myrttitest does nothing on #u19:15
Myrttiinfo does19:15
naliothaha19:15
Myrttiping doesn't work19:15
naliothwe need to get a better system going19:15
Myrttiwe do19:15
MyrttiI've got a recent database from jussis server if you don't19:16
naliothi just re-enabled the cron job to grab the db, and jussi01s site goes down  :|19:17
naliothi've got a backup, too19:17
MyrttiI've got one from midnight local time here19:17
naliothbut the cronjob grabbed a 0 byte file19:17
Myrtti21 hrs ago sharp19:17
naliothubot3: bot19:17
ubot3I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:18
Seeker`mohi: hi, how can we help you19:18
mohihi :)19:18
mohiSeeker`: whats going on ubotu? :D we had ubottu in ubuntu-ir but its also disappeared there ;)19:19
Myrttiubottus server died19:19
Seeker`there are problems with the bot this weekend19:19
Myrttiwon't be coming back until monday19:19
mohi:(19:19
Myrttiuntil then we'll just have to make it somehow19:19
Myrttiwe're currently setting up a makeshift solution for replacing our makeshift solution19:20
mohiah.. ok! ok. waiting ;) tanx you guys for this great job :)19:20
Myrtti*sigh*19:20
jpdsstdin: admin? Cool thanks19:20
Myrttitoo bad the bot is on the other side of a split from what I understand19:21
Myrttior just plain dead.19:21
Myrttithe one stdin set up.19:22
Myrttioh dear.19:22
Myrttithe database and the settings are really old :-<19:26
Myrttiinfo is from gutsy19:27
Seeker`we really need to prod Canonical a bit harder19:28
naliothMyrtti: are you discussing ubot3?19:30
Myrttiyeah19:30
Myrttiwell, the last three lines19:30
ompaulMyrtti, do you have the current DB19:31
MyrttiI've got 21hrs old one19:31
ompaulsent it to nalioth and lets get the show on the road19:31
ompaulthats find19:31
naliothMyrtti: it'd help if you used my nick (or the bots) so i'd be aware  :|19:31
naliothompaul: it's not that19:31
MyrttiI know, sorry19:31
naliothi need to update the default response19:31
ompaulack19:31
* nalioth goes digging19:31
Myrttihttp://koti.kapsi.fi/myrtti/temp/ubuntu.db19:32
naliothrestarting ubot319:36
mohinalioth: does the ubot3 works likes ubotu?can we use as an alternate?19:38
naliothmohi: i can't support all the channels on my connection  :(19:39
nalioththat is why we have (had) several bots19:39
naliothstill showing gutsy19:39
naliothurgh19:39
mohiah..i see... :s19:40
ompaulmohi, you can always do /msg ubot3 and get the reply and echo it into the channel19:40
mohiompaul: nice trick ;)19:40
ompaulnp19:41
mohi:)19:41
naliothstupid bot19:42
nalioth"stupid human"19:43
naliothok, it's updated19:46
naliothbut #ubuntu is killing it19:46
Seeker`:(19:47
naliothi guess not19:48
naliothit was major lagged19:48
* jpds reads planet.ubuntu.com20:20
Myrttioh dear20:22
=== mohi is now known as mohi|busy
Myrtti!idle > mohi|busy20:25
Myrtti!test20:25
Myrttioh, right.20:25
MyrttiDAMN[21:48] <+nalioth> i guess not20:25
Myrtti[21:48] <+nalioth> it was majo20:25
mohi|busyooh! sorry :)20:25
Myrttidamn20:25
Myrttimohi|busy: see /topic20:26
mohi|busygood luck guys... :) I wish we see an ubuntu boot in #ubuntu-ir20:26
mohi|busy:)20:26
mohi|busybye20:26
ubot3In #ubuntu-bd, Marlboro said: !police is বাঘে ছুলে এক ঘা আর পুলিশে ছুলে আঠার ঘা21:03
PriceChildFYI I'm going to start messing with some flags. (elkbuntu ljl nalioth)21:04
Seeker`PriceChild: Semaphore?21:05
PriceChildExactly.21:05
Seeker`PriceChild: whatcha doing with the flags?21:07
PriceChildSeeker`: little spring cleaning, (see the ML) giving council +F individually, removing anyone that's dead/resigned.21:07
Seeker`fair enough21:10
Seeker`are there many people that have disappeared21:10
PriceChildonly four founders allowed a channel it seems21:11
jussi01good evening all21:12
* jussi01 sighs21:12
jpdsevening jussi0121:12
PriceChildjussi01: you're sighing a lot lately21:12
Seeker`jussi01: whats wrong?21:12
jussi01Im very sorry about the bot server being down - unfortunately very little I can do about it21:12
jpdsjussi01: it doesn't matter, it's not the end of the world. :)21:13
jpds...yet21:13
Seeker`jussi01: what happened?21:13
jussi01Seeker`: Isp decided tore assign/setup static ips... and:21:14
jussi01isp FAILZ21:14
Seeker`ah21:16
Myrtti/me rubs jussi01's isp and servers with a magical black guinea pig21:16
Myrtti*rubrubrub*21:16
jussi01:)21:16
jrib!test22:12
jribhmm, no bot?22:12
ompaulhmm22:24
ompaulbot is here22:24
ompaulubot3:bot22:24
ubot3I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)22:24
ompauljrib, ^^^22:25
jribak ok22:25
Myrtti!bot22:26
ompaulubot3:ompaul22:27
ubot3ompaul is well ompaul, don't get me started about that guy22:27
Pici!myrtti22:31
Pici:(22:31
Myrtti!prayer22:32
Myrttiubot3:prayer22:32
ubot3Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so.22:32
Pici\o/22:36
ompaulPici, no point in editing this one the real db will be back Monday we are told22:39
Piciompaul: okay22:42
* ompaul really wants to teach the bot a bad habbit22:42
ompaulhabit even22:42
Myrttignite everyone22:48
Myrttiubot3:!smoking is bad22:48
ubot3In #ubuntu-ops, Myrtti said: ubot3:!smoking is bad22:48
Myrtti:-P22:49
ompaulhehehe22:49
zewbive been banned from #ubuntu for like months22:59
zewbcan you unban me already?22:59
ompaulzewb, have you tried to get in today?23:03
Jack_Sparrowompaul Yes, he got bounced for ban evading23:04
Jack_SparrowSae it just a minute ago23:04
Jack_Sparrowsaw23:04
ompaultwas a chanserv thing23:05
Jack_Sparrowyep23:05
ompaulthen I doubt you will be getting back in23:05
ompaulJack_Sparrow, chanserv does not care ;-) chanserv obeys rules23:05
Jack_Sparrow:)23:05
ompaulzewb, don't move for a while23:05
ompaul15:43] <zwerb> i have aspergers syndrome23:08
ompaul[15:43] <zwerb> its not my fault23:08
ompaul[15:43] <zwerb> ok23:08
ompaul[15:43] <zwerb> there i said it23:08
ompaulzweb this does not inspire confidence in my23:09
ompaulin me that is23:09
ompaulzweb you said this on 2008/03/2823:09
ompaulzweb it is our objective to have a functioning channel - and behaviour like that which got you banned23:10
ompaulis not conducive to a working channel23:10
ompaulzewb, can you tell me this - why should we let you back in there?23:11
ompaulzewb, if you care not to converse please leave23:13
ompaulzewb, when you want to talk with us in a civil fashion please call back23:14
ompaulwilling to talk?23:30
ompaulzewb, are you willing to talk23:31
ompaulzewb, are you willing to talk with us?23:34
ompaulzewb, well it takes two to have a conversation you seem to be unwilling to converse so I guess you got to go on the remove and ban train23:35
ompaulzewb, please read this:    http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines23:36
ompaulcome back in a couple of days23:36
ompaul  when you can access this channel again23:36

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