| DreadKnight | daskreech: lol | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| DreadKnight | that's rather sad actually xD | 00:00 |
| daskreech | Hey | 00:01 |
| daskreech | I loved being a shaman | 00:01 |
| DreadKnight | :D | 00:01 |
| DreadKnight | now it seems that konqueror-kde4 doesn't want to upgrade... oh well | 00:04 |
| daskreech | well mine crashes everytime I press back | 00:05 |
| daskreech | I don't like this CD :( | 00:05 |
| DreadKnight | that arora qt/webkit browser is very nice already | 00:06 |
| daskreech | I just need it to havea plugin system then have stumbleupon ported to it and I'll care | 00:09 |
| daskreech | though | 00:09 |
| daskreech | hopefully I can use KHTML :) | 00:09 |
| DreadKnight | stumbleupon seems interesting :) | 00:13 |
| daskreech | It's the awesomeness | 00:15 |
| DreadKnight | :F | 00:17 |
| DreadKnight | :D | 00:17 |
| daskreech | and they poopoo safari so .. hopefully we learn from that :) | 00:18 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_afk | ||
| DreadKnight | 4.1 doesn't installs atm xD | 00:39 |
| DreadKnight | i love the new crash window so far :-) | 00:50 |
| * nosrednaekim refrains from repeating what every other 4.1 hopee is asking | 00:50 | |
| === jonathan_ is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| daskreech | nosrednaekim: is it here yet? | 00:57 |
| nosrednaekim | gaaah! :) | 00:58 |
| JontheEchidna | Haha, the packages work now | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | nice... | 01:27 |
| daskreech | ^_^ | 01:27 |
| daskreech | nosrednaekim: is it here yet? | 01:27 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: they don't work for me... dependency issues | 01:29 |
| JontheEchidna | Somehow I got through it all | 01:29 |
| nosrednaekim | apparently not :P | 01:31 |
| daskreech | ;-) | 01:31 |
| DreadKnight | who is a motu or packager around here? | 01:32 |
| DreadKnight | does it needs my 'error logs' ? | 01:32 |
| DreadKnight | trying to help as i can :-) | 01:33 |
| JontheEchidna | I package stuff | 01:33 |
| DreadKnight | not sure how you manage installing it all xD | 01:33 |
| JontheEchidna | me either | 01:33 |
| DreadKnight | ţi putea să porniţi 'apt-get -f install' pentru a corecta acestea. | 01:34 |
| DreadKnight | Următoarele pachete au dependenţe neîndeplinite: | 01:34 |
| DreadKnight | ksysguard-kde4: Depinde: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 dar nu este instalat | 01:34 |
| DreadKnight | Depinde: libplasma2 dar nu este instalat | 01:34 |
| DreadKnight | E: Dependenţe neîndeplinite. Încercaţi să folosiţi -f. | 01:34 |
| DreadKnight | can't really set konsole to english ... no languages list displayed... heh | 01:35 |
| daskreech | !paste | 01:35 |
| DreadKnight | when there are more lines :P | 01:35 |
| JontheEchidna | It's depending on kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, but that package won't be installed? | 01:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Is that what the translation is? | 01:37 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: that and libplasma2 | 01:39 |
| JontheEchidna | what happens if you try "sudo apt-get install libplasma2" | 01:39 |
| DreadKnight | tried that already | 01:39 |
| JontheEchidna | what does libplasma2 complain about? | 01:39 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: http://pastebin.com/m45596e4c | 01:40 |
| DreadKnight | so libplasma2 depends on kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2) | 01:41 |
| JontheEchidna | will that install ok? | 01:42 |
| DreadKnight | kde-workspace-data is in comflict with libplasma1 | 01:43 |
| DreadKnight | kdebase* | 01:43 |
| DreadKnight | conflict* | 01:43 |
| JontheEchidna | Tried removing libplasma1? | 01:43 |
| JontheEchidna | libplasma2 will be replacing it so it'd be going away anyway | 01:44 |
| DreadKnight | it doesn't automatically removes, it upgrades i think | 01:44 |
| DreadKnight | hehe | 01:44 |
| DreadKnight | ok.. i'll try... | 01:44 |
| DreadKnight | so libplasma1 is marked for upgrade, libplasma2 for installation if i recall ... | 01:45 |
| JontheEchidna | what is libplasma1 trying to upgrade to | 01:46 |
| DreadKnight | i cant really manage to remove libplasma1 from konsole | 01:47 |
| DreadKnight | get the "use apt-get -f install" msg on and on | 01:47 |
| DreadKnight | ksysguard-kde4 is broken.. | 01:47 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: now libplasma1 is marked for removal it seems | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | oh right, I had a bit of trouble with that too | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | ksysguard-kde4 wanted ksysguardd-kde4 too | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | (note the extra d) | 01:48 |
| DreadKnight | i know about it | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | now how did I deal with that | 01:49 |
| DreadKnight | konsole is so damn useless when upgrading for quite some time.. can't manage to install new packages when upgrading (as dependencies) with it | 01:49 |
| JontheEchidna | could I see the error message for ksysguard? | 01:49 |
| DreadKnight | adept gives error when preparing upgrade for kdebase-workspace-bin... | 01:50 |
| DreadKnight | ksysguard-kde4 depends on kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 and libplasma2 | 01:51 |
| JontheEchidna | Ok | 01:52 |
| JontheEchidna | sudo apt-get remove libplasma1 | 01:52 |
| JontheEchidna | sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-data | 01:52 |
| JontheEchidna | That will remove libplasma1 and upgrade kdebase-workspace-data | 01:52 |
| JontheEchidna | you can then upgrade libplasma2 | 01:53 |
| JontheEchidna | and that other kdebase-workspace one | 01:53 |
| DreadKnight | im trying | 01:53 |
| DreadKnight | ok... this is stupid | 01:54 |
| DreadKnight | ok, i'm on my way so far | 01:57 |
| * daskreech crosses his fingers and legs | 01:57 | |
| JontheEchidna | I have snow on my desktop :o | 01:59 |
| daskreech | You keep your desk by an open window? | 02:03 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: i got the ksmserver error when trying to install kdebase-workspace-data | 02:04 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 02:05 |
| gribelu | hmm? konqueror-kde4: Depends: kdebase-data (>= 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2) but 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2 is installed. | 02:05 |
| JontheEchidna | ^most likely nixternal forgot to change it to kdebase-data-kde4 | 02:05 |
| gribelu | damn it | 02:06 |
| DreadKnight | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop', which is also in package ksmserver | 02:07 |
| DreadKnight | ... | 02:07 |
| DreadKnight | same error as that dude smarter had | 02:07 |
| DreadKnight | shouldn't there be a session manager for kde4? :-) | 02:09 |
| DreadKnight | ksmserver-kde4 xD | 02:09 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: help xD | 02:10 |
| JontheEchidna | uh | 02:11 |
| DreadKnight | ksmserver issue :D | 02:11 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, you could override dpkg and overwrite that file | 02:12 |
| * DreadKnight is a noob | 02:12 | |
| JontheEchidna | I don't know if you want to though | 02:12 |
| JontheEchidna | because that's probably why I don't have a way to log in to KDE through the gui | 02:13 |
| DreadKnight | lol | 02:13 |
| DreadKnight | this needs to be taken care of | 02:13 |
| JontheEchidna | Hopefully nxiternal will return soon... | 02:14 |
| DreadKnight | yeah | 02:14 |
| DreadKnight | after a good night sleep :D | 02:14 |
| DreadKnight | JontheEchidna: how do you select the session when logging in without GUI ? | 02:15 |
| JontheEchidna | you would press crtl alt f1 to get you to a terminal | 02:16 |
| JontheEchidna | log in | 02:16 |
| JontheEchidna | then run startx | 02:16 |
| JontheEchidna | or startkde | 02:16 |
| DreadKnight | well, the problem when i do that is that i end up in kde3 (with startx) | 02:16 |
| DreadKnight | hmm | 02:17 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, right | 02:17 |
| nosrednaekim | hey... are the packages in? | 02:28 |
| JontheEchidna | sorta | 02:31 |
| JontheEchidna | I got lucky and forced them into submission, but you're looking at serious problems trying to install them | 02:31 |
| nosrednaekim | GOOD! | 02:32 |
| * DaSkreech has decided | 02:32 | |
| * nosrednaekim goes to get them | 02:32 | |
| DaSkreech | I will wait till post 4.0.5 to install 4.1 | 02:32 |
| nosrednaekim | JontheEchidna: the kde4 ppa, right? | 02:32 |
| JontheEchidna | right, the same one we used for Gutsy kde4 packages | 02:33 |
| nosrednaekim | ok... removing all my old kde4 packages | 02:34 |
| nosrednaekim | that should smooth things | 02:34 |
| DreadKnight | nosrednaekim: erm... my actuall problem is with a package used in kde3 as well i think | 02:37 |
| nosrednaekim | well, we shall see | 02:37 |
| * DreadKnight wishes you luck | 02:37 | |
| DreadKnight | nosrednaekim: how do you manage to remove all kde4 packages in a simple matter? | 02:38 |
| nosrednaekim | DreadKnight: well, its not fool proof, but I searched "kde4" in adept, unchecked installabale packages and then removed in one swipe | 02:39 |
| DaSkreech | nosrednaekim: You know you can filter on installed packages right ? | 02:40 |
| DreadKnight | you would do more damage removing the base libraryes from the start | 02:40 |
| nosrednaekim | DaSkreech: thats what I mean... | 02:40 |
| nosrednaekim | DreadKnight: true | 02:40 |
| nosrednaekim | yep... I see the problem | 02:42 |
| nosrednaekim | konqueror-kde4: | 02:42 |
| nosrednaekim | Depends: kdebase-data (>=4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2) but 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 is to be installed | 02:42 |
| nosrednaekim | something wrong with that konqueror package | 02:43 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, it's depending on the kde3 package instead of the kde4 one | 02:43 |
| DreadKnight | that's one problem | 02:44 |
| nosrednaekim | I gotta force it in :P | 02:44 |
| nosrednaekim | the PPA's are awful slow though | 02:44 |
| nosrednaekim | I'm going to DL overnight. | 02:45 |
| nosrednaekim | later... | 02:47 |
| === Guest78382 is now known as Hobbsee | ||
| fale | hello | 04:35 |
| DreadKnight | any packager alive? | 04:36 |
| DreadKnight | guess not | 04:37 |
| fale | DreadKnight: are you still guessing about when kde4.1beta will be ready? | 04:38 |
| * Hobbsee is vaguely alive, but doesn't do much kde stuff anymore | 04:38 | |
| DreadKnight | fale: it's pretty much done; i'm guessing in less than 24h everything will be setled down :-) | 04:39 |
| fale | Hobbsee: I took the right one, before :D | 04:39 |
| fale | DreadKnight: I think the right thing to do is be calm and as soon as the devs will have the packages will write a news on kubuntu.org | 04:39 |
| fale | DreadKnight: and if you don't ask they will use less time to create the packages ;) | 04:40 |
| DreadKnight | fale: we're ... not on the same wave it seems | 04:40 |
| fale | DreadKnight: maybe | 04:41 |
| DreadKnight | Hobbsee: so you can take care of an dependency issue on 4.1beta by any chance? a typing error rather.. | 04:42 |
| * DaSkreech pokes Hobbsee with the stiKK | 04:42 | |
| DreadKnight | :D | 04:42 |
| * Hobbsee pokes DaSkreech back | 04:42 | |
| DreadKnight | poke ... mon | 04:43 |
| DaSkreech | How are you Hobbsee ? | 04:44 |
| DaSkreech | other than perforated? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | dealing with some merges, finally | 04:44 |
| DaSkreech | hi manchicken | 04:51 |
| manchicken | Howdy | 04:52 |
| DaSkreech | how are you? | 04:53 |
| === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto | ||
| mornfall | Brekeke. | 06:39 |
| DaSkreech | Hi mornfall | 06:40 |
| mornfall | Morgen. | 06:41 |
| nixternal | oi | 06:46 |
| nixternal | oi | 06:47 |
| mornfall | yuriy: I have pushed a bunch of changes to Adept (and libept as well). | 06:51 |
| DaSkreech | :-D | 06:51 |
| * DaSkreech loves the adept | 06:51 | |
| * nixternal loves the beer | 06:52 | |
| === rdieter_afk is now known as rdieter | ||
| nixternal | fixed kdebase and kdebase-workspace (workspace is finish up the builds right now) | 07:18 |
| * nixternal beds | 07:22 | |
| * DaSkreech throws nixternal some (insert nixternal's shameful wants here) | 07:22 | |
| nixternal | more beer? | 07:22 |
| DaSkreech | cd pub | 07:23 |
| DaSkreech | more beer | 07:23 |
| nixternal | if I get 1 more "any word on the kde4.1 packages" I am going to explode | 07:23 |
| DaSkreech | how about bytes ? | 07:23 |
| nixternal | I keep telling people, Word is in Microsoft, leave me alone :) | 07:23 |
| DaSkreech | Werd | 07:23 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 07:23 |
| nixternal | I will work on finishing the rest of them tomorrow, or today, whatever the heck it is | 07:24 |
| DaSkreech | as long as they come out before 4.0.5 | 07:24 |
| nixternal | by about a day | 07:24 |
| DaSkreech | ;-) | 07:24 |
| nixternal | there is a ton of work between 4.0.4 and 4.0.80 | 07:24 |
| DaSkreech | So people can break the computer nicely | 07:24 |
| nixternal | everything, and I mean everything, has pretty much changed everywhere | 07:24 |
| DaSkreech | then go back to 4.0 and get a nice update | 07:24 |
| DaSkreech | I know it's grand isn't it? :) | 07:25 |
| nixternal | cdbs, control, *.install, *.installgen, patches/, rules, and then some | 07:25 |
| DaSkreech | Well | 07:25 |
| DaSkreech | not for you | 07:25 |
| DaSkreech | but ... for !nixternal | 07:25 |
| nixternal | it isn't to bad actually, I am just tired of the impatient | 07:25 |
| nixternal | tomorrow if anyone wants to help, speak up and we will work out some sharing love...but be warned, there is an ass ton to be done | 07:26 |
| nixternal | the rest should be fairly easy, but kdebase* was a pita | 07:26 |
| DaSkreech | I don't have a ton of ass :( | 07:27 |
| nixternal | I feel like it | 07:27 |
| * DaSkreech hugs nixternal | 07:27 | |
| nixternal | I went out to my brothers house...he had a bonfire for the kids, so we cooked some hotdogs, smores, and then some...drink, drank, drunk | 07:27 |
| nixternal | I needed to get out..or risk blowing up my laptop | 07:28 |
| DaSkreech | Food and Liquor | 07:30 |
| nixternal | man, I never realised just how good a smore really is | 07:30 |
| nixternal | or a hotdog over an open fire | 07:30 |
| nixternal | oh well...I am going to bed for real this time | 07:31 |
| nixternal | g'nite | 07:31 |
| DaSkreech | night | 07:32 |
| Gnuton | hi | 07:33 |
| === flaccid_ is now known as flaccid | ||
| uga | anyone can tell why there are two separate ssh2 lib packages? | 10:07 |
| uga | libssh-2, and libssh2-1 | 10:07 |
| uga | one says "A tiny C ssh library" and the other "ssh2 client-side library", but I believe both are same stuff | 10:08 |
| kuroryuu | uga: ones more compact? | 10:08 |
| uga | could be, I wonder why they don't point to the project urls or something =( | 10:09 |
| uga | or have in the name libtinyssh or so | 10:09 |
| uga | the "-1" doesn't really help | 10:09 |
| kuroryuu | uga: apt-cache show libssh-2 | 10:10 |
| uga | uh-oh... so the -1 isn't coming from the standard repos? | 10:10 |
| uga | thanks, that may explain | 10:10 |
| uga | kuroryuu: is there a way to ask apt-cache what repository it found the package in? | 10:11 |
| kuroryuu | uga: says in the show output | 10:11 |
| kuroryuu | both are in universe apparently | 10:11 |
| uga | yes, it's confusing. I wonder if it's related to the later ssl changes | 10:15 |
| uga | kuroryuu: hehe, I think I figured out =) | 10:16 |
| uga | libssh-2, if I'm not wrong, is SSH | 10:16 |
| uga | while libssh2-1, SSH2 | 10:17 |
| kuroryuu | I think they're just different implementations | 10:18 |
| kuroryuu | the libssh-2 website says it's version 0.2 | 10:18 |
| uga | yes, and it never mentions ssh2 | 10:18 |
| kuroryuu | on the site it also says ssh1 is supported, but disabled by default or somesuch | 10:19 |
| uga | kuroryuu: "current release changes" SSH-1 support (disabled by default) | 10:19 |
| uga | lol | 10:19 |
| uga | yes | 10:19 |
| uga | it sounds like I need libssh2-1 pack | 10:20 |
| uga | thanks | 10:20 |
| uga | ah no, silly | 10:20 |
| uga | the same url says "SSH2 and SSH1 protocol compliant" | 10:20 |
| uga | kuroryuu: I think I'll go nuts =) | 10:20 |
| kuroryuu | uga: sounds like a plan, lol | 10:20 |
| uga | maybe I should ask in #ubuntu-devel? =) | 10:21 |
| kuroryuu | wouldn't hurt | 10:21 |
| uga | kuroryuu: | 10:47 |
| uga | [11:43] <pusling> uga: the first one is libssh2 soname1 and the other one is libssh soname2 | 10:47 |
| uga | [11:43] <pusling> uga: I guess you should blame the upstreams of those two difeferent projects for choosing so similar names ;) | 10:47 |
| uga | ubuntu-devel guys are clueless, and not too friendly I'd say ;) | 10:47 |
| uga | they pointed me to leave and go debian, when I pasted some debian urls | 10:48 |
| uga | (becuase packages.ubuntu.com is down) | 10:48 |
| uga | the packages were inherited from debian | 10:48 |
| uga | thankfully #kde-devel guys are friendlier ;) | 10:48 |
| kuroryuu | yeah | 10:48 |
| uga | it seem they are two separate projects with unfortuantely too similar names | 10:49 |
| Hobbsee | uga: you can't really blame them for not being there on a weekend, surely. | 10:49 |
| uga | no, I was blaming them for inviting me to leave the channel and go #debian ;) | 10:49 |
| uga | without even checking the packages I was referring to belong to ubuntu | 10:49 |
| uga | what could I do if packages.ubuntu.com is down ;) | 10:50 |
| Hobbsee | uga: you were lucky to get an answer at all. anyone could be giving out answers. | 10:50 |
| Hobbsee | uga: that guy happens to be a contributor to universe. only. | 10:50 |
| uga | heh | 10:50 |
| kuroryuu | well if the packages are straight from debian you could ask in #debian, just don't mention ubuntu, lol, they hate that | 10:50 |
| Hobbsee | uga: it's unwise to blame an entire team on one guy's response, *especially* if you have no idea if he's actually involved in the project or not. | 10:51 |
| uga | ok ok ok =) | 10:51 |
| Hobbsee | uga: unless you want to get attributed as "just another clueless user shooting his mouth off" | 10:53 |
| Hobbsee | or something | 10:53 |
| uga | Hobbsee: oh, that'd be a nicer adjective than one gets from debian devels at least =) | 10:55 |
| kuroryuu | one of the reasons I always liked gentoo better than debian though was this exact issue | 10:56 |
| kuroryuu | portage had better package names | 10:56 |
| uga | hey, but debian always releases new packages earlier | 10:57 |
| uga | see kdelibs5 already there! | 10:57 |
| kuroryuu | before portage you mean? | 10:58 |
| uga | yps | 10:58 |
| uga | yups | 10:58 |
| uga | I doubt you'll find kdelibs_5_ in portage | 10:58 |
| uga | maybe 4, but 5... =) | 10:58 |
| kuroryuu | portage builds from source, all you need is an ebuild and the moment it's released onto an ftp site somewhere you can install | 10:59 |
| uga | kuroryuu: lol, you aren't getting it | 10:59 |
| kuroryuu | apparently not, lol | 10:59 |
| uga | kdelibs5 in debian/kubuntu == kdelibs_4_ in gentoo =) | 10:59 |
| uga | stupid naming conventions in debian ;) | 11:00 |
| kuroryuu | ah, I see | 11:00 |
| kuroryuu | haven't really been paying as much attention to gentoo lately | 11:00 |
| uga | gentoo uses logical naming. it's kde4 so kdelibs_4 | 11:00 |
| uga | but debian uses so versions, which is version 5 | 11:00 |
| kuroryuu | I see | 11:01 |
| uga | that confuses a lot of users when they claim sometimes they installed kde5 =) | 11:01 |
| kuroryuu | lmao | 11:01 |
| kuroryuu | I love debian so, but I always have problems with their package naming, not to mention a lot of the apt commands are a bit cryptic at times | 11:02 |
| kuroryuu | in gentoo, emerge to install, emerge -s to search package name, emerge -S to search package description, emerge -u to update :P | 11:02 |
| kuroryuu | and the basic search lists version numbers, haven't figured out how to just get version numbers in apt without all the extra info they slap into apt-cache show | 11:03 |
| kuroryuu | besides grep Version :P lol | 11:04 |
| uga | heh | 11:08 |
| kuroryuu | is there a way to customize apt-cache search's output? | 11:14 |
| harolddong | when are the 4.1 beta packages going to be available? | 12:04 |
| seezer | harolddong: don't ask that or nixternal will eat you :) | 12:07 |
| wolfger | ... didn't we just get that update the other day? | 12:21 |
| nosrednaekim | whhooo! that konqueror-kde4 dep problem was fixed thanks whoever did that :P | 12:35 |
| * jussi01 should go report a konq-kde4 bug sometime... been a bit lazy recently though | 13:14 | |
| nosrednaekim | jussi01: today is bug day IIRC | 13:16 |
| nosrednaekim | fo konqueror | 13:16 |
| jussi01 | nosrednaekim: oh really? perhaps I should go tell them to fix the fact that kde4 konq doesnt open the full path in konsole when you hit f4 | 13:16 |
| jussi01 | nosrednaekim: can you confirm that for me? | 13:17 |
| nosrednaekim | nope | 13:17 |
| nosrednaekim | I just uninstalled all of 4.0.3 in preparation for 4.1 :P | 13:17 |
| jussi01 | oh | 13:17 |
| jussi01 | ok then. anyone else around that can test/confirm? | 13:18 |
| gribelu | jussi01: so what you mean is: open folder in konq -> hit f4 -> check path? | 13:25 |
| jussi01 | gribelu: correct | 13:25 |
| gribelu | ya.. always goes to ~ | 13:26 |
| gribelu | at least for me | 13:26 |
| jussi01 | ok, Im off for a bit, Ill see answers when I get back | 13:26 |
| gribelu | using 4.0.80 :p | 13:26 |
| nosrednaekim | gribelu: from the PPA? | 13:26 |
| gribelu | yes | 13:26 |
| nosrednaekim | I'm try to get it now.... so awful slow :( | 13:26 |
| gribelu | i had many dependency issues while installing | 13:27 |
| gribelu | had to dpkg -i many of the packages | 13:27 |
| gribelu | --force-all too :) | 13:27 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 13:27 |
| gribelu | then again i had kde 4.0.4 installed, and kde3 | 13:28 |
| gribelu | some packages install manuals in the same location as kde3 | 13:28 |
| === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| === uga__ is now known as uga | ||
| santiago-ve | nixternal, ping | 16:19 |
| === uga is now known as uga|away | ||
| nixternal | santiago-ve: pong? | 16:34 |
| santiago-ve | nixternal, who's the person in charge of the website (kubuntu.org) | 16:37 |
| santiago-ve | i wanna halp :p | 16:38 |
| gnomefreak | santiago-ve: nixternal and or Riddell and or doc team | 16:38 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: i'm on 4.1b; had to remove ksmserver and home & root directories are sort of swapped/messed up... | 16:38 |
| nixternal | santiago-ve: Riddell would be in charge, but ryanakca was doing all the work on the updates that I know of | 16:40 |
| nixternal | DreadKnight: what's messed up about them? | 16:40 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: for example in the startmenu, when moving cursor over computer(places)/home, you get "/root" as description | 16:42 |
| nixternal | cool | 16:42 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: clicking on it opens dolphin to some fake root folder that looks like a default user home folder... | 16:43 |
| DreadKnight | the whole thing is bugged.. | 16:43 |
| DreadKnight | and i have no GUI login screen since i had to remove ksmserver xD | 16:44 |
| nixternal | groovy | 16:44 |
| DreadKnight | konversation reffused to work at first.. had to delete settings | 16:44 |
| DreadKnight | and i can't manage to run warcraft3 for some reason xD | 16:45 |
| DreadKnight | i wish konqueror-kde4 would get a seach engine box thingy like opensuse has... or firefox.. | 16:46 |
| nixternal | DreadKnight: do you know why you had to remove ksmserver? | 16:48 |
| nixternal | DreadKnight: the url bar in konqi is that search box | 16:48 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: kdebase-workspace-data couldn't get installed or something... not sure | 16:49 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: http://pastebin.com/d510f429d | 16:51 |
| DreadKnight | kdebase-workspace-bin actually | 16:51 |
| DreadKnight | still not the same thing about konqueror :-( i doubt my mother or father would write google:.... in the address bar each time.. heh | 16:52 |
| DreadKnight | i usually ctrl + L, then Tab and write ... and Enter | 16:53 |
| nixternal | DreadKnight: you don't have to type google, just set the default search enging to google, and the bar becomes the same as a search bar | 16:57 |
| nixternal | or you could do gg:foo | 16:57 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: hehe, was looking for the 'gg:' shortway | 16:59 |
| DreadKnight | i also don't have icons for the categories from applications xD | 17:00 |
| DreadKnight | oh well | 17:00 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: cool, i've managed to set that up; i got each option from the default search engine like 3 times.... heh | 17:02 |
| nixternal | installing kubuntu-kde4-desktop now, then will do an update to see how it works and see what issues I get so I can fix them before going on to the other modules | 17:03 |
| DreadKnight | cool | 17:04 |
| gnuton | Hi there | 17:23 |
| OculusAquilae | hi | 17:23 |
| gnuton | hey OculusAquilae | 17:24 |
| OculusAquilae | hi gnuton | 17:24 |
| * OculusAquilae is looking on kubuntu.org to see if kde 4.1 beta packages are available | 17:26 | |
| bdgraue | do you guys really prefer ozone over oxygen? | 17:27 |
| mhb | bdgraue: I think it | 17:30 |
| mhb | it's an upstream issue | 17:30 |
| bdgraue | mhb: upstream issue, what does that mean? | 17:31 |
| OculusAquilae | bdgraue: that the KDE project prefers ozone? | 17:32 |
| bdgraue | in trunk is oxyen not ozone | 17:33 |
| OculusAquilae | bdgraue: wheree does kubuntu use ozone? | 17:34 |
| bdgraue | i installed the ppa-packages and removed all kde4-configs and had ozone as default | 17:34 |
| OculusAquilae | ppa-packages ? the 4.1 beta ones? | 17:35 |
| bdgraue | yes | 17:35 |
| OculusAquilae | where are they? | 17:35 |
| bdgraue | http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4 | 17:36 |
| OculusAquilae | bdgraue: any issues? | 17:36 |
| bdgraue | there are not all packages made i think | 17:37 |
| bdgraue | only rudimentary stuff | 17:37 |
| maltedik | i spent some time at the kde-booth at linuxtag and there was no word shed about ozone | 17:37 |
| OculusAquilae | any problems with it? compatibility with the old packages for games/edu? | 17:37 |
| OculusAquilae | or are these deleted? | 17:38 |
| bdgraue | i removed everything old before i installed the beta | 17:38 |
| OculusAquilae | so I'll better wait until it is complete | 17:38 |
| OculusAquilae | it's to risky for me because this is the only installation working atm | 17:39 |
| * OculusAquilae doesn't want to destroy his only connection to the internet | 17:39 | |
| DreadKnight | i love the new krunner xD | 17:43 |
| bdgraue | i like the idea, but i dont like the color of the icons | 17:44 |
| bdgraue | some work to do i think | 17:45 |
| DreadKnight | i don't manage to close kopete-kde4 and to launch warcraft3 xD | 17:45 |
| === smarter_ is now known as smarter | ||
| DreadKnight | (some of the most scarry issues | 17:45 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| bdgraue | http://nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/imagefolders2.png i like this one | 17:51 |
| OculusAquilae | bdgraue: indeed | 17:59 |
| DreadKnight | bdgraue: is that a mockup or what? | 18:13 |
| bdgraue | yes it is | 18:14 |
| DreadKnight | looks nice | 18:14 |
| DreadKnight | one thing... i preffer a gap betwen the close button and the rest | 18:14 |
| DreadKnight | less accidental closing xD | 18:14 |
| JontheEchidna | That was a nice addition | 18:14 |
| bdgraue | DreadKnight: tell that pinheiro ;) | 18:15 |
| DreadKnight | :) i will | 18:15 |
| DreadKnight | vista made the close button damn bigger xD | 18:15 |
| JontheEchidna | ha, easier to hit accidentally | 18:15 |
| bdgraue | vist what? | 18:15 |
| DreadKnight | :> | 18:15 |
| jjesse_ | i see freenode is still having problems | 18:16 |
| DreadKnight | aqua is somewhat silly too (from apple mac), most button round and coloured, i think color blind people can't even tell betwen the maximize and close button | 18:17 |
| DreadKnight | *s | 18:17 |
| jpds | jjesse_: such as? | 18:26 |
| jjesse_ | jpds: still having a very slow load on channel joins, not seeing any users in the user sesction and very very slow response from nickserv | 18:27 |
| jjesse_ | started at least for me on saturday | 18:27 |
| jpds | hmm | 18:27 |
| jjesse_ | i tried to join #ubuntu-bugs 5 minutes ago and its not showing up | 18:27 |
| Daskreech | MOrning | 18:28 |
| jjesse_ | morning dascreech | 18:28 |
| jpds | jjesse_: well, I'm in 37 different channels... so, I can't tell. | 18:30 |
| jjesse_ | i'm seeing Daskreech now because i was on when he joined | 18:30 |
| Daskreech | hi jjesse_ :) | 18:46 |
| jjesse_ | hello dascrekk | 18:46 |
| jjesse_ | dang it | 18:46 |
| jjesse_ | still having problems | 18:46 |
| jjesse_ | grumble | 18:46 |
| jjesse_ | hello dskreech | 18:46 |
| jjesse_ | this is frustrating, seems like i can only join this channel? | 18:47 |
| Daskreech | I see you on 5 chans | 18:50 |
| jjesse_ | which 5? | 18:51 |
| jjesse_ | i don't see any but this | 18:51 |
| Daskreech | Now you are on one | 18:52 |
| jjesse_ | this is frustrating | 18:53 |
| jjesse_ | gotta figure out what has changed since i used this last | 18:53 |
| Daskreech | #kde-docs #ubuntu-doc #kubuntu-devel #Altiris #ubuntu-bugs | 18:53 |
| Daskreech | those were the 5 | 18:53 |
| jjesse_ | thanks | 18:54 |
| jjesse_ | ah that's better | 18:56 |
| Daskreech | Still see you on only one :) | 18:57 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| Daskreech | Now I see you on nothing :) | 18:59 |
| jjesse | mok fianlly figured it out | 18:59 |
| jjesse | ok :) | 18:59 |
| Daskreech | What was it? | 19:01 |
| jjesse | i have no idea, something in the connection with trillian i think | 19:02 |
| * apachelogger stumbles in | 19:03 | |
| * Daskreech catches apachelogger | 19:04 | |
| apachelogger | aye, thx | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | is beta1 released yet? | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | apparently not | 19:05 |
| Daskreech | apachelogger: Shhhhhh | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | I am wondering whether I can release neon+kde before beta1 packages hit the hardy heron ;-) | 19:09 |
| * Daskreech gets a pretty girl to hold up the handekerchief and drop it | 19:09 | |
| * Daskreech rusltes jjesse's hair | 19:26 | |
| jjesse | :) | 19:27 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_afk | ||
| jjesse | hrmm vms are really killing this machine :( | 19:28 |
| Daskreech | apt-get remove vrms | 19:29 |
| jjesse | i wish can't due to work stuff being done on them | 19:29 |
| Daskreech | on rms? | 19:30 |
| jjesse | work stuff is being done on the vms | 19:30 |
| Daskreech | Oh Vms | 19:33 |
| Daskreech | I saw vrms | 19:33 |
| Daskreech | I know he can be insistent but I couldn't see how he was killing your machine unless you were running KDE on Windows :) | 19:35 |
| jjesse | :) | 19:39 |
| jjesse | sorry bout that, yes virtual machines | 19:39 |
| Daskreech | I have been thinking of getting one running | 19:40 |
| Daskreech | I want the new VMware though | 19:40 |
| Daskreech | don't know if it's being backported | 19:41 |
| jjesse | vmware 6 or is there a newer one? | 19:41 |
| Daskreech | There was a new release like 4 days after buntu shipped which had a huge update | 19:41 |
| jjesse | ah | 19:41 |
| Tonio_ | hi | 19:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm currently working on kdesudo kde4 fyi | 19:52 |
| Daskreech | 8.10 might ship with 4.0.3 ? | 19:52 |
| Daskreech | Tonio_: do you find that the sudo doesn't know about KDE4 binaries? | 19:52 |
| Tonio_ | Daskreech: that'll change once kde4 is in /usr/ | 19:56 |
| Tonio_ | Daskreech: atm it is possible to export the PATH in your /etc/environment | 19:56 |
| Daskreech | I know it's just the path | 19:57 |
| Tonio_ | Daskreech: so as kde4 is going in /usr for intrepid, that's not an issue ;) | 19:58 |
| nixternal | howdy Tonio_! | 19:58 |
| Tonio_ | hey nixternal | 19:58 |
| Daskreech | Tonio_: plus the path also has doubled separators :) | 19:59 |
| nixternal | Tonio_: I CC'd you on my core-dev app thinking you had uploaded some of my main crack in the past..hope I was correct in including you and I apologize if I included you and you didn't upload any of my main crack :) | 20:01 |
| === rdieter_afk is now known as rdieter | ||
| nixternal | ok, I set kdebase-bin-kde4 to conflict with konqueror-kde4 << ${source:Version} | 20:18 |
| nixternal | so that should fix the current kdebase-kde4 stuff | 20:18 |
| nixternal | as for the kwin-kde4 stuff, I renamed kwin-kde4 to kde-window-manager and made it conflict|replace with kwin-kde4, and also made the 2 new lib packages to conflict with kwin-kde4 | 20:18 |
| nixternal | so that should fix those problems | 20:19 |
| jjesse | wow sounds crayz ;) | 20:19 |
| jjesse | crazy | 20:19 |
| nixternal | ya, I am trying to take everything from the Intrepid packages, but the Intrepid packages overwrite anything remotely related to KDE, so we can't have that in Hardy | 20:21 |
| jjesse | wow | 20:23 |
| jjesse | out to buy groceryies so i can eat the rest of the week | 20:24 |
| nixternal | hehe | 20:24 |
| apachelogger | Mez: nothing's more awesome than a nice icecream cluster @ a fair :D | 20:51 |
| * Daskreech throws popcorn at DreadKnight | 20:58 | |
| DreadKnight | lol | 20:59 |
| DreadKnight | hey | 20:59 |
| DreadKnight | :-) | 20:59 |
| === uga|away is now known as uga | ||
| yao_ziyuan | does anyone care about firefox 3's ugly tabs under kubuntu's kde theme-ization? | 21:48 |
| yao_ziyuan | kubuntu applies the current kde style to GTK+ applications. when it comes to firefox 3, web page tabs are drawn in a broken manner. | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | *thumbs up* | 21:54 |
| gnuton | Hi | 22:10 |
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