[01:33] <timing> update-manager -d is still not giving me a dist upgrade, is this normal?
[01:33] <JontheEchidna> yup
[01:34] <timing> k
[01:34] <timing> did id change? or it's still not available?
[01:34] <timing> *it
[01:35] <JontheEchidna> It's not being made available by that means yet, as it is quite unstable
[01:36] <JontheEchidna> You can upgrade to intrepid by changing "hardy" to "intrepid" in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[01:37] <timing> yeah okay
[01:37] <timing> didn't want to do that yet
[01:39] <timing> however, i ran hardy from the first month as well
[03:25] <ionstorm> is there an intrepid ibex testing iso yet
[03:25] <ionstorm> been googling
[05:17] <shirish> hi all, anybody here who's upgraded to intrepid yet?
[11:50] <amikrop> Greetings. I want to install build-essential on a freshly installed system without internet connection. What can I do?
[11:53] <DanaG> Will somebody BAN that bot?
[11:53] <DanaG> IRSeekBot: wtf?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> DanaG: our meeting about it is going to continue but as of right now it will be here.
[11:56] <gnomefreak> amikrop: please ask in #ubuntu. This is for intrepid
[11:56] <DanaG> I'm just curious: is it an official bot, or just some random person's computer?
[11:57] <amikrop> gnomefreak: I get no answer, so I thought here are more experienced people.
[11:58] <gnomefreak> amikrop: did you try searching for it in synaptic or terminal. And no this will not continue please keep anything before intrepid in #ubuntu, sooner or later they will help or you can try the ubuntu forums channel i think its #ubuntuforums or #ubuntu-forums. It was changed a bit ago
[11:59] <gnomefreak> amikrop: or try the ubuntu forums site.
[12:03] <amikrop> gnomefreak: OK. I will ;)
[13:13] <amikrop> I think it would be nice, in future versions of Ubuntu (e.g. Intrepid), if the developers could make packages that automate the installation and configuration of hardware like dial-up modems (like Lucent WinModems), usb modems (like ueagle-atm), and more, and provide those packages with the install/live CD.
[13:13] <amikrop> * ... installation and configuration of hardware drivers ...
[13:37] <amikrop> So, any comments on that?
[13:41] <virtuald> amikrop: do you feel like contributing?
[13:42] <amikrop> virtuald: Sure.
[13:44] <virtuald> have you made any debian packages before?
[13:45] <virtuald> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing
[13:46] <amikrop> virtuald: Not for the repositories.
[13:46] <virtuald> ok
[13:46] <amikrop> Just for me/friends/personal-usage-distribution.
[13:46] <virtuald> i think the best place to ask for directions is #ubuntu-motu
[13:46] <virtuald> i'm not a developer
[13:47] <amikrop> OK, I will ask there.
[13:47] <amikrop> Thanks.
[13:48] <virtuald> good luck :>
[13:53] <amikrop> virtuald: thank you
[19:07] <DanaG> What the hell?  If a copy operation fails due to being out of space.... it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to browse the device in Nautilus while the error box is open!
[19:08] <DanaG> And there's no "retry" button.
[19:10] <DanaG> It also can't factor in replaced files while figuring out free space on the device.
[20:19] <ha-nocri> hello, how to enable trash icon? "Add to panel" - Trash doesn't work :(
[21:24] <izm99> hi all.  what is the name of the installation program in ubuntu?  I want to look at the source
[21:30] <izm99> anyone?  I just want to find the source for that 7-step wizard you click through after running "Install" in a livecd
[21:31] <rsk> um
[21:31] <rsk> afaik it's a package on launchpad izm99
[21:32] <izm99> rsk: yeah... there are so many packages on launchpad.  But I'm looking.  :)
[21:35] <izm99> aha!  "ubiquity"
[21:35] <rsk> =)
[21:35] <izm99> i mean... obviously.  :P