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nhandlerI'm currently working on my own version of MoM. It is not even close to being finished, but I wanted to post a link here in order to get some feedback and suggestions. I am fully aware of both MoM and DaD. But since this is an open source community where anyone/everyone can contribute, I wanted to make my own version. http://utilities.servehttp.com/SuperMoM/SuperMoM.html. Some notes: packages are taken from MoM. Click00:34
nhandlering on the name of the last uploader takes you to their LP page. The email address is a mailto link. The Versions are taken from MoM. The bug column searched LP for any bugs that reference the Debian version in their title. This is by no means perfect, but it worked pretty well. I will be adding a way to manually modify the bug #. I will also probably add separate comment and assignment columns. Also, try clicking on00:34
nhandlerthe asterisk to the left of a package name ;). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.00:34
persianhandler: Why?  While competition is good and all, there's already lots of confusion between merge tools.  If you have a neat feature, I'd encourage you to look at https://launchpad.net/merge-o-matic and try extending that code to include your feature.00:49
nhandlerpersia: The goal of my tool is to be sort of like a front end for MoM. Also MoM was made in Python. I'm not as familiar with Python as I am with Perl. My goal is to create a site that allows you to view the packages that need to be merged/synced in as many different ways as possible.00:54
persianhandler: OK.  I'll warn you that you'll have significant trouble getting mindshare with a different tool, especially one that cannot be merged with the existing tool due to differences in the means of implementation.00:57
persiaOn the other hand, if you are trying to create a method of viewing the packages in lots of different ways, you may also find multidistrotools an interesting codebase to explore.00:57
nhandlerpersia: Thanks. I'll take a look at multidistrotools.01:08
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RoAkSoAxhi all... kinda OT question... but does anyone nows how to fix the RSS in planet.ubuntu.com ?? i can't get my blog working correctly there!!01:32
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santiago-vehi guys...03:44
santiago-veyesterday.... i was trying to merge kguitar for intrepid with the help of effie_jayx... effie_jayx was guiding me with the MoM package and i was using the DaD package.. we found a big difference: the MoM pkg has two makefiles a .debian and a .ubuntu but the dad package does not... so which one we use for merging? MoM or DaD? besides this... no other changes where detected.. and the changes of the debian package seems have the ubuntu03:47
santiago-vechanges aswell03:47
Hobbseemom, usually04:06
Hobbseenow, kguitar...04:06
Hobbseeah yes, i thoguht i remembered playing with that04:07
santiago-veHobbsee, yes, your name is on the changelog04:08
Hobbseesantiago-ve: as a general rule, if the packages are done proerly, you won't need to merge anything outside debian/ - those makefiles and stuff get automatically regenerated.04:08
Hobbseesantiago-ve: so the only thing you're looking for in that one is if the ubuntu changes made it to debian04:08
santiago-veHobbsee, they did04:09
Hobbseedid they?04:09
santiago-veas far as i could check..04:09
Hobbseewhat about the dh_iconcache?04:09
Hobbsee(which is now dh_icons in debian)04:09
santiago-veit did04:09
santiago-veohhh04:09
santiago-vethat's something different04:10
santiago-ve;=04:10
santiago-ve;)04:10
Hobbseesantiago-ve: poke bddebian, and get him to push that change in as well.04:10
Hobbseesantiago-ve: then request the sync.04:10
Hobbseesantiago-ve: bddebian is the guy who's done that debian upload, and is also an ubuntu guy.04:11
Hobbseesantiago-ve: that's what i'd suggest doing, anyway :)04:11
santiago-vehmmm wel Hobbsee im new in this world... so where i find him/her?04:12
santiago-vehim*04:12
Hobbseesantiago-ve: no problem.  he'll appear on this channel, probably in the next day or so.04:13
Hobbseelooks like seenserv is dead, so you won't be able to check when he last left04:13
santiago-veHobbsee, so i dont change the the dh_iconcache to dh_icons, because it has been made somewhere else?04:13
santiago-veHobbsee, k04:13
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Hobbseesantiago-ve: you would want to change it there, in your merge.  but you can do one step better, in getting all the changes pushed back to debian, then to sync.04:14
Hobbseesantiago-ve: (dh_iconcache is now deprecated, and replaced by dh_icons)04:14
Hobbseesantiago-ve: which will save you work indefinetly.04:14
santiago-veHobbsee, mkay! thanks :D04:15
Hobbseesantiago-ve: you're welcome :)04:15
santiago-vewell meanwhile04:15
santiago-veback to try packaging kpogre~04:16
* Hobbsee wonders if the debian version of kimwitu now builds.04:16
fale_hello04:18
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faleis there anyone?04:23
* Hobbsee syncs kimwitu04:25
Hobbseesantiago-ve: could you merge kimwitu-doc for me?04:26
Hobbseesantiago-ve: looks pretty easy04:26
santiago-veHobbsee, sure04:27
santiago-vewhich one? dad or mom?04:27
Hobbseesantiago-ve: they should turn out the same, but i find MoM easier to read and work with04:28
santiago-vemom then04:28
Hobbseesantiago-ve: mom at least to have a few more intelligent merging things about it.  unsure about the case now04:28
Hobbseesantiago-ve: if you give me a link, i can upload04:28
Hobbseeargh, crud.  i never replied to the debian guys, either04:28
santiago-veHobbsee, upload what? <.<04:29
santiago-veremember im new on this xD!04:29
Hobbseesantiago-ve: your merge.04:30
santiago-veHobbsee, k04:30
santiago-vethe kimwitu-doc? one right?04:30
Hobbseeyup04:32
santiago-vek04:32
santiago-vegonna download... and prepare everything here...04:33
faleHobbsee: do you know who is packaging kde?04:33
nhandlerHey Hobsee, do you know why DaD sometimes lists packages that aren't listed on MoM?04:33
Hobbseefale: lots of people04:33
faleHobbsee: you have some names of people that are online atm?04:34
Hobbseenhandler: Adri2000 would be a better one to answer that, but iirc, it's usually that mom's got some special bits in it, ie, some merges from experimental, etc.04:34
Hobbseefale: see #kubuntu-devel, but i don't know how many are awake now04:34
faleHobbsee: ok, thx :)04:35
nhandlerThanks Hobbsee.04:35
Hobbseey/w04:35
* Hobbsee builds an intrepid pbuilder04:35
HobbseeFetched 61.9MB in 1min31s (678kB/s)04:37
Hobbseetasty.04:37
Hobbseespamprobe needs a merge, too04:51
slavikany chance for pugs packages to be available for hardy?05:28
FlannelAnyone know why ubuntustudio doesn't follow the -desktop metapackage model?05:30
Hobbseeslavik: does it qualify for a sru?05:43
HobbseeFlannel: it doesn't?05:43
slaviksru?05:44
slavikHobbsee: gutsy and older have ghc6 6.6, hardy has 6.8, that is the reason why pugs is not buildable ...05:45
FlannelHobbsee: No, you have to install ubuntustudio-desktop and a bunch of other packages to get the same thing as the CD05:46
FlannelHobbsee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UpgradingFromHardy five packages (and then the realtime kernel, which shouldn't be part of the desktop package)05:48
slavikFlannel: audio stuff needs an rt kernel ...05:49
HobbseeFlannel: ahhh.  strange.  You'd really have to ask that in the ubuntustudio channels05:49
Hobbsee#ubuntustudio, it looks like05:50
slavikHobbsee: ubuntustudio is for audio recording and those apps need the rt kernel05:50
Flannelslavik: Regardless, kernels aren't deps of -desktop packages, and I'm pretty sure you only need -rt if you're actually capturing05:50
Hobbseeslavik: yes, i'm aware05:50
Flannelif you're just editing, you'd be fine without rt05:50
slavikFlannel: ubuntustudio is for recording, too. hence the requirement05:51
slavikie: studio use05:51
Hobbseeslavik: they won't get added to hardy at this point - they're not even in there in source form (i'd assumed that they were, but hadn't built, when i asked about the sru)05:51
slavikwhat's sru?05:52
Hobbsee!sru05:53
HobbseeStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates05:53
Flannelslavik: Well, you'd still be able to have "ubuntu studio" without the realtime kernel.  But that's moot, kernels don't depend on desktop packages, and thats not the issue.  The issue is that -audio -video -graphics and -audio-plugins ought to be depends of -desktop.05:53
TheMusoLaney: No, users may want to use graphics apps, but not worry about audio apps.06:02
TheMusoFlannel: ^^06:03
TheMusoLaney: sorry06:03
FlannelTheMuso: right, but there's nothing wrong with removing the -desktop metapackage.  If you install Ubuntu, and don't want Epiphany (or whatever), you remove the -desktop metapackage, no harm, no foul.06:04
TheMuso-> #ubuntustudio06:04
FlannelIf I install studio from the Alternate CD, it installs all three.  If I install the -desktop metapackage, I expect a similar system06:04
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ernstpI'm working on packaging an application with a wierd buildsystem07:30
ernstpso I need to override all the default sections in the rules-file07:30
ernstphaving trouble finding the correct documentation though07:30
ernstpsomething runs ./configure and it's not me :-)07:30
IulianG'morning07:46
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whiteanyone here using 915resolution or knows a bit about acpi resume?08:22
whitei am wondering about the ubuntu patch for 915resolution and if this patch is ubuntu specific or if we can push it into debian somehow08:23
whiteit can probably be removed completely, but I am not sure, if there is no driver left that needs it08:28
cartmanwhite:  new intel driver supposed to fix that already08:29
whitecartman: any other driver that needed 915resolution and still does?08:29
cartmanas far as I know, none08:30
whiteah now i remember about the ubuntu patch and how debian does it (with acpi-support)08:30
cartmanwhite: but you can always ask in #xorg I guess :)08:30
whitecartman: yeah thought so, i'll wait for news from the debian-x team and then ask for removal from debian :)08:30
cartmangood plan :)08:31
wgrantwhite: It's unlikely that 915resolution should stick around for lenny - I haven't had a use for it in over 12 months.08:32
wgrant-intel works on everything -i810 does.08:33
whitegood, one package less :)08:34
whitewgrant: how is life btw?08:38
whitewgrant: and why is NM taking so long? :)08:39
wgrantwhite: My AM seems to no longer be responding.08:42
wgrantAnd I've been busy with uni.08:42
whiteah, ok08:49
sebneraloha afflux ;)11:14
affluxhi sebner11:15
RAOFGah!  What needs a rebuild against libffi5?12:08
RAOFThis is a question that shall be investigated further in the morning.12:08
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effie_jayxmorning all..12:25
cody-somervilleMorning12:26
devfilgeser: ping12:45
geserdevfil: pong12:46
devfilgeser: I wish to work at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphviz/+bug/23001612:47
devfilcan I work on it=12:47
devfil?12:47
devfils/on it/on they12:47
geserdevfil: sure, if you do the merge for graphviz, this bug gets automatically fixed12:49
devfilgeser: I wish to fix all the bug reported12:54
devfilRebuild with perl 5.1012:57
amikropGreetings. I am interested in helping packaging hardware drivers (especially for dial-up modems, or usb modems) for making new users' experience with Ubuntu, more easy, automated and pleasant.13:50
persiaamikrop: user-space or kernel-space?13:50
amikropkernel-space13:51
directhexentirely gpl things? many dial-up softmodems have highly prohibitive licenses13:52
amikropI don't mean starting development from scratch, but mainly creating the Debian packages, or fixing some bugs, and generally make the process of getting hardware up and running, more automated.13:52
amikropdirecthex: I don't know. Maybe.13:53
amikropAre there any related efforts initiated?13:54
amikropE.g. are there any plans like those?13:55
directhexspecifically for modems? no. but the ubuntu kernel team do package things outside "standard" numbered kernel releases13:56
amikropWhy only outside stndard releases?14:00
amikrop* standard14:00
directhexbecause there are things that aren't always in a given kernel version from kernel.org14:01
persiaAnd it's not only outside.  The Ubuntu kernel team also pushes a fair bit into upstream that makes the standard kernel releases.14:02
persiaBest source of information is #ubuntu-kernel during American (the continents) business hours.14:02
sebnerpersia: is uqm still maintained?14:08
gnomefreakgeser: are you around for a quick question about your rebuild of irssi14:08
persiasebner: I'm taking it over, as soon as I can figure out how to do packaging in git properly.14:08
* persia is just fiddling with debian/control locally now14:09
sebnerpersia: I mean upstream14:09
persiasebner: To a fair degree.  MeepNeep (or similar) in #uqm was a great source of information towards getting the Debian packages compatible with third-party add-ons.  I don't think they release very often.14:10
persiasebner: Why?14:10
sebnerpersia: because it seems to be pretty old ^^14:11
sebnerpersia: ah latest release is over a year old but still seems to be active. propse a 3D port :P14:12
persiasebner: Well, 3D wouldn't really hold the flavour of SC2, but such is life...14:13
persiaAnyway, it's fairly stable.  There are add-on packs that people make once in a while, but as an engine it's not likely to change much.14:14
sebnerpersia: kk14:14
gesergnomefreak: sure14:15
sebnerpersia: and of course this was only a meta-question to hint you about uqm and the missing ACK for the special sync and the merge ^^14:16
gesergnomefreak: is there a problem with it?14:16
gnomefreakgeser: irssi depends on packages we dont have and never had in repos was this done by debian or upstream?14:16
effie_jayxI have a question, I am currently working on a merge (bakery2.4) and It seems the confid.sub has many changes in ubutnu that relate to more cpu combinations, however I do not see any change or element in the changelog that alows me to understand the resoning behind the change. what do you suggest that I do?14:16
gnomefreakgeser: i posted the output on the bug about the respinning on perl14:16
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: config.{guess,sub} usually get regenerated during build, so you don't need to merge them14:16
persiasebner: Right.  I still don't have the build chroots I'd need (although I ought have them soon).  Anyway, I'll probably grab everything that was for the merge in the next Debian upload, to make it a sync.14:16
amikropdirecthex, persia: OK. I see.14:16
gnomefreakgeser: bug 230016 is the bug14:16
effie_jayxHobbsee,  right. that clears it14:17
persiaHobbsee: Umm.  That's not a good rule of thumb.  Many packages don't reset during build, and some people think that's poor style.14:17
sebnerpersia: *nice* \o/14:17
* persia likes to regenerate during build14:17
effie_jayxHobbsee, dad marks it as a change though14:17
gnomefreakgeser: here is bug address since bot is borked https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcrypt-blowfish-perl/+bug/23001614:17
Hobbseepersia: sure, but not by hand.14:17
persiaeffie_jayx: If you do encounter a merge on those though, you're best off just copying the updated ones from autotools-dev, rather than merging by hand.14:18
Hobbseepersia: as in, ilne by line.14:18
persiaHobbsee: Right.  I just type slow...14:18
* gnomefreak not sure if sid or lemmy has those pacakges since my debian chroots are not finished14:18
gesergnomefreak: which version of irssi was this? irssi (on i386) got build today as it was in CHROOTWAIT before14:19
gnomefreakdoes sid get outdated or is it updated with experimental14:19
gnomefreak0.8.12-3ubuntu314:19
geserwait for -3ubuntu414:20
effie_jayxpersia, right!14:20
gnomefreakgeser: ok thanks i wasnt sure if you had known or not :)14:20
geserit should hit the archive soon (it was build for i386 just one hour ago)14:21
gnomefreakgeser: ah ok thanks.14:22
amikropWhere can I find all the available "Section"s for Debian packages?14:23
amikrop(e.g. web, devel, etc)14:23
geserin the debian policy manual14:24
persiaamikrop: /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch-controlfields.html14:24
effie_jayxHobbsee,  should I assume then that it is the same for config.guess?14:24
persia(or at least that will have a link)14:24
geserhttp://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-subsections14:24
amikropOK, guys. Thanks.14:24
geseramikrop: ^^14:24
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: yes.14:24
gesergnomefreak: if you don't want to wait: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14880508/irssi_0.8.12-3ubuntu4_i386.deb14:30
gnomefreakgeser: thanks ill try it out14:30
gnomefreakgeser: not looking good14:33
gesergnomefreak: no?14:33
gnomefreakgeser: same package deps it looks like14:33
gnomefreakgeser: looks like all the perl packages plus one or 2 we dont have in repos at all14:34
gesergnomefreak: libperl5.8 is now libperl5.10 and perlapi-5.8.8 (provided by perl-base) is now perlapi-5.10.014:34
gnomefreakgeser: they are broken14:35
gnomefreaklet me pastebin it14:35
gesergnomefreak: we are still in the middle of the perl 5.10 transition14:35
geserin my minimal intrepid chroot (AMD64) irssi is installable again14:36
gnomefreakthat could be the issue http://pastebin.mozilla.org/448252 atleast i think it is14:36
gnomefreakgeser: mines not on 38614:37
gnomefreakthose perl packages have been held back for a few weeks so im not sure how you got it to install unless you have the packages you built installed14:38
gesertry apt-get -f install and check what it wants to remove before you proceed14:38
gnomefreakgeser: alot if its like dist-upgrade but lets see14:38
gnomefreakabiword libperl5.8 libversion-perl14:39
gesergnomefreak: my intrepid chroot is minimal, only the base packages are installed and some packages use for package building14:39
gnomefreaki can live without them i think14:39
gnomefreaknot sure about the 2 perl packages14:39
geserlibversion-perl is waiting on libmodule-build-perl getting transtioned14:39
geserI haven't looked on abiword yet14:40
gnomefreakdo i "need" libperl and libversion-perl that i posted above?14:40
geserlibperl5.8 is the old one, the new one is libperl5.1014:40
sebnerpersia: sometimes I love debian. Just 2 hours ago I reported something back and now they release a new version with my fix =) (thought with a lot others too but somehow a great luck)14:41
geserlibperl5.8 is a NBS14:41
persiasebner: Some maintainers are easier to work with than others.  Nice job.14:41
gnomefreakok cool i didnt think it was updated yet14:42
gnomefreakgeser: thanks ill be back i have some house work to do14:42
gesernp14:43
* geser goes back into the sun14:43
sebnerpersia: syncs \o/. But I can understand if a maintainer doesn't share our opinion but if somebody ignores us -.-14:46
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persiasebner: Well, sometimes people are busy.14:49
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sebnerpersia: busy? Sure. I also think so when I see a bug that is >300 days old without reponse ;)14:50
gnomefreakgeser: its still borked on perl packages14:50
gnomefreakgeser: its seems perl depends on perl-base and perl-modules14:52
gesergnomefreak: as I said intrepid is in the middle of the perl 5.10 transition14:59
gesergnomefreak: I myself will update to intrepid after the perl 5.10 transition is finished14:59
santiago-vehi guys...     what does this means? "+ Fix bashism in clean rule. "?15:05
santiago-vei know is debian/rules related... but... no idea to tell the truth15:06
santiago-ve:S15:06
amikropA package depends on kernel 2.6.16 or better. What dependencies do I need to declare?15:07
amikrop(e.g. in the control file)15:07
gnomefre1kgeser: ok im still working on getting it installed15:08
DktrKranzsantiago-ve, these are commands dash doesn't understand well, they cause weird errors such FTBFS, missing files or something similar15:08
santiago-veDktrKranz, thanks...15:09
gnomefre1kgeser: i had to install using -f 2 times but looks like it worked15:09
gnomefre1kill be back15:09
santiago-veanoither question... the dm said: Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 5.0.0), ghostscript, but the ubuntumotu said: Build-Depends-Indep: texlive-latex-recommended, texlive-extra-utils, ghostscript15:10
santiago-vewhich line should i take?15:10
santiago-vethe ubuntu one?15:10
persiasantiago-ve: Is ghostscript required to build arch:any or arch:all packages?15:10
directhexbuild-depends-indep are different from build-depends15:10
DktrKranzsantiago-ve, could you please point to the package you're looking at?15:10
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santiago-veDktrKranz,  kimwitu-doc15:11
directhexbuild-depends-indep are needed to generate architecture-independent files which are kept in a separate package (e.g. artwork or documentation). singling them out can speed up the build servers, since they only need to install & build the -indep files once (other architectures can skip those files entirely, as the -indep packages are built on i386)15:12
santiago-vemkay15:13
* persia notes that the dependencies for the clean rule have to be in Build-Depends: even for arch:all packages15:13
santiago-vethis is a doc package~15:13
JazzvaAnyone willing to review a patch for gnome-voice-control in intrepid: bug 219303? It was uploaded for hardy and got ack from motu-release. I have prepared the fix for intrepid too (changing the version and release in changelog) and tested it. Thanks.15:13
Jazzvas/uploaded/submitted/15:13
persiasantiago-ve: Even so, it will have Architecture fields in debian/control15:15
santiago-vei dont see these15:15
persiasantiago-ve: pastebin your debian/control?15:15
santiago-vepersia, http://ubuntu-ve.pastebin.com/m2b6c1dda15:16
directhex#15:17
directhexArchitecture: all15:17
persiasantiago-ve: OK.  Look at line 17.  That will tell you if this is arch:any or arch:all.15:17
directhexlooks like an Architecture field to me15:17
directhexmaybe i need new glasses though15:17
santiago-veerrr... let me get my glasses XD15:17
persiasantiago-ve: The guidance from policy for Architecture: all packages is that Build-Depends should have everything required to run clean (or build the source, depending on how you look at it), and Build-Depends-Indep should have everything required to build the binary.15:18
persiasantiago-ve: On the other hand, it doesn't matter very much, and if this is the only variance between Debian and Ubuntu, it's not worth maintaining the change.15:19
amikropIn other words, how can I make sure the linux kernel 2.6.16 or higher is installed?15:19
amikropWhich package do I need to declare as dependency in my control file to ensure that linux 2.6.16 or better is present in the system?15:19
santiago-vepersia, so what do i dowith control? discard the debian changes?15:20
persiasantiago-ve: Are there other changes in the package for which you are maintaining Ubuntu variation?15:20
santiago-vepersia, gonna look if the DM included the ubuntu changes, like this one:     + Fix bashism in clean rule.15:21
santiago-vebut not sure how to check that one...15:21
persiasantiago-ve: Not to discourage you, but you may find yourself more productive trying to fix outstanding bugs whilst you gain more familiarity with the structure of Debian-format packages.15:22
santiago-vepersia, dont worry ill give it a try :p15:23
persiasantiago-ve: Good luck!15:24
santiago-veThaks15:24
geseramikrop: a dependency on the kernel version won't help you as it doesn't guarantee that the kernel is also being used15:27
amikropgeser: Anyway, how can I do what I ask?15:28
amikrop(or, even better, what will help me?)15:29
santiago-veamikrop, why you depend on aspecific kernell?15:31
amikropsantiago-ve: Because I need a specific module.15:33
santiago-vehmm...15:33
santiago-vepersia, to finish with this package... pbuilder did it fine... now going with merge-buildpackages15:38
* persia cringes from yet more tools to make it easier to do things without investigating the details15:40
amikropgeser: So, any ideas?15:47
geseramikrop: sorry, no15:54
amikropok15:55
geseramikrop: you could check during runtime if the needed kernel or modules is available and give a meaningfull error message if it's not15:55
amikropok15:57
danielmhi all16:06
danielmthe name and email field at debian/changelog should be MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com> ?16:06
persiadanielm: For modified Ubuntu packages, I use "Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>"16:14
persia(At least for universe: main is different)16:14
danielmok, thanks :)16:15
emgentScottK: ping16:34
yannickHow can a packages builded with ppa " have unmet dependencies" like that: The following packages have unmet dependencies:17:11
yannick  ekiga-snapshot: Dépend: libebook1.2-9 (>= 1.12.1) but 1.12.0-0ubuntu5 is installed.17:11
yannick                  Dépend: libedataserver1.2-9 (>= 1.12.1) but 1.12.0-0ubuntu5 is installed.17:11
yannick                  Dépend: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is installed.17:11
cody-somervilleyannick, the requested versions don't exist17:12
yannickcody-somerville, then how is it possible it builded? there no check against that?17:12
cody-somervilleI'm pretty sure we try to squash all bugs.17:13
cody-somervilleUnfortunately that is a tough job17:13
yannickcody-somerville, in the build log I see this: Get:222 http://ftpmaster.internal gutsy-updates/main libebook1.2-9 1.12.1-0ubuntu2 [90.0kB]17:18
yannickcody-somerville, Does it means i need gutsy update repository?17:18
cody-somervilleyup17:21
yannickok...17:24
sebnergeser: evolution-sharp got synced. now let's wait for the build =)17:28
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bitbuzteri'm trying to upload a package to my PPA.. but it rejects the package with the error: "MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive"17:51
bitbuzterany idea? md5's are ok :(17:51
geserdid you upload the same upstream version of the package already or does it exist in the official archive?17:52
bitbuzterno, different version.. yes, there is a version at universe (lower version)17:54
bitbuzterthe version format is the problem?17:55
* cody-somerville nods.17:55
bitbuzterok..17:55
bitbuzteri was looking for somehting else.. thanks, i will review the version then17:56
bitbuzter:)17:56
bluefoxicyhmm.  putting vboxmouse as the driver works, vboxvideo doesn't auto-resize though.17:57
bitbuzteroh.. i was using intrepid instead hardy on the changelog.. that could be the problem?18:04
geserbitbuzter: no, that's not the problem.18:11
geserbitbuzter: what package did you try to upload to your PPA?18:11
RoAkSoAxa18:28
RoAkSoAxhi all18:28
bitbuztergeser: thanks for your help. Finally i delete a previous build from my ppa, and re-upload it make it work.18:32
geserbitbuzter: for the next time use the same .orig.tar.gz18:38
bitbuzterok :)18:39
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GnontgholI have now merged ruby-prof (#236538)18:49
a7pmay I have a word with someone upon SRU-sponsorship?18:49
gesera7p: do you have an ACK from ~motu-sru already?18:49
a7pgeser, no, nothing - I want to know some things about the procedure and if my patch is suitable for SRU.18:51
geserah18:51
a7pit's an softlink-fix for a rather unimportant package (vim-latexsuite).18:52
gesera7p: where is the debdiff?18:54
GnontgholI have merged ruby-prof, I now have a nice source package. It says I have to contact an MOTU so here I am.18:54
a7pgeser, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim-latexsuite/+bug/225411/comments/618:54
gesera7p: it's usually not needed to use dpatch patches to patch files in debian/18:57
gesera7p: and also wrong version, it should be 20060325-4.1ubuntu0.1 and target hardy-proposed18:58
a7pgeser, so I learned something again - woundered about it to.18:58
gesera7p: and there to be some jump in your changes: see the second chunk for debian/changelog18:59
Gnontgholgeser: Care to help me for a moment?18:59
a7pgeser, okay, I will check it - but you think it makes sense to build that package for SRU? or will it be rejected?18:59
GnontgholAnyone want to help me completing my merge of ruby-prof?19:03
a7pGnontghol, patience ...19:05
geserGnontghol: how can I help you?19:33
sebnergeser: -.- -.- -.-19:33
Gnontgholgeser: I have merged ruby-prof from debian and wander what to do now19:34
emgentsebner: please remove smile mode19:34
sebneremgent: hrhr. I suppose he knows what I mean ^^19:34
geserGnontghol: create a debdiff, file a bug requesting sponsorship and attach the debdiff to it19:36
Gnontgholgeser: Shal I create the debdiff from the ubuntu or debian package, and there is a bug (#236538) already open, shal I open a new one?19:37
RoAkSoAxGnontghol: the debdiff is between the newer debian and ubuntu version19:39
GnontgholRoAkSoAx: Thanks19:40
directhexi.e. a debdiff to make 1.0-1ubuntu1 from debian's 1.0-119:40
RoAkSoAxGnontghol: the thing is that the bug you say is already open is a sync, so no need to generate a debdiff...19:40
GnontgholRoAkSoAx: I just realized that the patches in the ubuntu version have been applied in the upstream version so it is indeed a sync, but I still don't know what to do.19:46
RoAkSoAxGnontghol: since someone already filed a bug, there's nothing you can do... so you should find another package and merge it ;)19:48
GnontgholRoAkSoAx: Ok. But I find it is hard to know what I can do and what I can't do.19:51
RoAkSoAxGnontghol: are you using MoM or DaD?19:53
RoAkSoAxonce you pick a package you should check if someone already filed a bug, if not.. you can work on it19:53
GnontgholRoAkSoAx: MoM, so bug reports are not requests for me to do something.20:00
a7pgeser, mmm ... who do i make dch create a 0.1-step? Is there any switch (which I can not finde) or do I have to do it by hand?20:45
geserI usually do it by hand20:48
a7pdone - should I upload it again, or pass it to someone directly?20:57
gesera7p: attach the new debdiff to the bug, subscribe motu-sru and wait for feedback (ACK)20:59
a7pthx, hope everything is proper now.21:01
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a7pgeser, should I set the status to "Fix commited"21:07
gesera7p: no, the bug gets to set to "Fix commited" after it got uploaded and accepted to hardy-proposed21:08
a7pokay - remembered something of that kind.21:09
sebnergeser: I recieved now a lot of build-failure mails so I'm really sad now ^^21:09
gesera7p: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14892497/fixed_symlinks.debdiff looks broken or at least parts are missing (you still have the extra " s" line in the changelog)21:10
gesersebner: for evolution-sharp?21:11
sebnergeser: yep. the evolution depend is totally b0rken21:11
a7pgeser, what do you mean by extra " s" line?21:12
gesersee http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14892497/fixed_symlinks.debdiff21:12
geserthere is a "+ s" line21:13
a7pah, see it ... no idea how it got there ... cat must have made vimentry.21:15
geserand your change is missing completely now21:15
* a7p is confused21:16
a7pdid remove the dpatch usage21:17
gesera7p: but did you apply the changes directly instead?21:17
a7pthought so.21:17
a7pbut debdiff will know better21:17
a7pwill apply it again.21:18
a7pgeser, what about the (in librarian) broken umlauts in my Name? does a changlog have to be ASCII?21:20
PasNoxi try to create/update a soruce package21:21
PasNoxwhen i use uupdate it badly update the changelog file21:21
PasNoxit add an email witch is false ( user@user-desktop)21:22
PasNoxwhere ican fix this please ?21:22
a7pPasNox, the environment variables DEBEMAIL seems to be set incorrectly.21:23
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PasNoxa7p: ok let try21:24
PasNoxa7p: thanks exporting the DEBEMAIL works great21:29
PasNoxbut there is a way to pass the email via command ine to uupdate ?21:30
gesera7p: UTF-8 should be okay, I guess librarian doesn't know that it's UTF-821:31
a7pPasNox, you can set the variable just for the context of the specific program (which I do not know).21:32
geserPasNox: DEBEMAIL=your@address uupdate should work21:33
PasNoxgeser: it's not possible to directly give the gpg id ?21:35
PasNoxso i don't need give email ?21:35
PasNoxi would liek to not force the script to handle email21:35
geserPasNox: gpg id? for the signing you mean?21:35
PasNoxgeser: yes21:43
geserdebsign -k your_gpg_id your_package_source.changes will sign the .dsc and the .changes file with the specified gpg id21:44
norsettogreetings and salutations21:45
PasNoxgeser: i not call it myself, i use uupdate then debuild -S -sa --lintian-opts -i -k0$id21:47
PasNoxwhere $id is my gpg id21:47
PasNoxthe probleme is that uupdate add email ike pasnox@pasnox-desktop21:48
PasNoxinstead of the email associate with my gpg id21:48
PasNoxis tehre a way giving uupdate a gpg id ?21:48
sebneraloha norsetto =)21:48
geserPasNox: uupdate uses dch to add the changelog entry which uses the values from DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME (if they are set)21:49
PasNoxwhat mean dch ?21:50
geserman dch21:50
PasNoxok21:50
norsettoman dch21:50
norsettook, I did it, what gives?21:50
geserdch helps you with editing the debian/changelog21:51
sebnerdch -i creates a new entry with your name etc21:51
geserPasNox: debuild tries to find the right gpg key by looking at the name and email from the last changelog entry21:52
norsettodch -i21:53
PasNoxgeser: yes, the probleme is that when using uupdate, it add email pasnox@pasnox-desktop, instead of taking the last one setted in the changelog21:53
norsettoboh21:53
taconenorsetto: is boh english ? :)21:53
geserPasNox: as already said, export DEBEMAIL/DEBFULLNAME with the correct value21:54
* norsetto checks his Collins21:54
PasNoxgeser: yes, but i want not to be needed to give fullname/email, only gpg id, it's not possible for uupdate to take entry from a gpg id ?21:54
geserPasNox: there is no guarantee that the person doing the current update is the same as the one doing the last21:54
PasNoxyeah21:55
geserPasNox: no21:55
PasNoxit's why my update script can take gpg id21:55
PasNoxdamn21:55
geserPasNox: and as gpg keys can have several uid which one should it take? first one? last one? random?21:55
norsettotacone: negative21:55
PasNoxok21:55
PasNoxso i need rewrite my script dam :)21:55
PasNoxthanks21:56
PasNoxlet script :))21:56
PasNoxgpg --help21:58
PasNoxoups21:58
norsettobah22:01
sebnernorsetto: ?22:02
norsettooh well: tacone is an operator on channels: #fanculo22:02
norsettosebner: !22:02
taconenorsetto: LOL, don't add anything, please :)22:03
sebnernorsetto: I only know favanculo <-- ?22:03
norsettosebner: thats a new one to me ;-)22:03
taconenorsetto: sebner version could be traslated with the same meaning.22:04
norsettotacone: its actually funnier than the original22:04
sebner^^22:05
taconeyes norsetto, but we can talk about it on an official channel only because few people can understand it22:05
norsettosebner: wanna merge?22:05
sebnernorsetto: hmm. depends what you offer22:06
norsettosebner: hmmm, depends what you can offer actually ...22:06
sebnernorsetto: lol. so what do you have?22:06
norsettosebner: http://dad.dunnewind.net/eggdrop22:07
sebnernorsetto: you comment on dad somehow makes me afraid ^^22:08
norsettosebner: well, if you did the merge with the old patch would have been better?22:09
sebnernorsetto: ^^, are you or is debian unwilling to submit/accept the patch?22:10
norsettosebner: the question to ask ourselves is, why do we have that patch?22:11
sebnernorsetto: if you tell me I won't have to search and your chances that I do the merge increase :P22:12
norsettosebner: no, I'm not going to ruin the fun, you have to find that out22:12
PasNoxi try to execute a command in shell and get the result in a variable but it seem not working, someone have idea :22:13
sebnernorsetto: no need to. I know I have to take the patch. Why doesn't matter :P22:13
PasNoxhere is the line : export DEBEMAIL=`echo gpg --list-key ED11858D | grep uid`22:13
RAOFPasNox: You don't need the echo.22:14
RAOFAlso, $(command) is generally considered cleaner than `command` ;)22:14
PasNoxif i not set it s hangry22:15
PasNoxmaybe becasue the result contains spaces22:15
Davieyisn't `command` a bashism?22:15
RAOFPasNox: Aah, right.  You probably want to $(sh -c "gpg --list-key foo  | grep uid")22:16
PasNoxthanks22:16
RAOFPasNox: The 'echo' you have there will mean that DEBEMAIL="gpg --listkey foo | grep uid"22:16
PasNoxi have same error : export: 88: <pasnox@gmail.com>: bad variable name22:17
PasNoxi think quoting again22:18
RAOFWhy don't you go "export DEBEMAIL="<pasnox@gmail.com>""? :)22:18
RAOFYou should probably also see exactly what gpg --list-key ED11858D | grep uid spits out, too.22:18
PasNoxthe command give => uid                  Filipe AZEVEDO <pasnox@gmail.com>22:19
ryanakcaWhy would a package build in one person's clean, fresh, up-to-date pbuilder, but not in anothers?22:19
PasNoxand dch man say DEBEMAIL can containt fullname and email22:19
PasNoxand it will auto set debfullname as name22:19
lagaryanakca: different arch?22:19
RAOFPasNox: Which isn't what you're after, right?  I'm pretty sure that 'uid' isn't in your fullname or email :)22:19
ryanakcalaga: ah :)22:19
PasNoxand as i only want my script require gpg id i need get the email / fullname myself22:20
sebnernorsetto: This patch allows your bot to connect to IRC servers using SSL where available   HAHA!!22:20
PasNoxRAOF: as signed name i need : Filipe AZEVEDO <pasnox@gmail.com>22:20
PasNoxwhat my gpg id contains22:20
RAOFPasNox: How many times do you change your DEBFULLNAME or DEBEMAIL?  I just set them once in my environment.22:20
sebnernorsetto: I hate debian -.- , Severity: wishlist; Tags: patch, wontfix;22:21
PasNoxRAOF: i do a script so any guyz in my team can generate package without knowledge22:21
* norsetto wonders whats the diff between felipe and filipe22:21
PasNoxnot only me22:21
PasNoxFelipe is more spanish22:21
PasNoxFilipe is more portuguese22:21
norsettoah, makes sense22:22
RAOFPasNox: Aah.  Well, you'll need to do some seddery on the string you get back from sed.22:22
sebnernorsetto: but the question is why do you want *me* to merge especiallay *that* package ^^22:22
PasNoxRAOF: i'm totally new at shell script :D i need small help if u can :)22:22
sebnerhuhu joejaxx22:22
sebnerhuhu jono22:22
sebners^^22:22
jonohello sebner22:22
RAOFPasNox: Although I'm not sure that generating packages without knowledge is a worthwhile goal :P22:22
PasNoxi will not often online, so team must be able to easily package our application22:23
norsettosebner: whats so scary in that merge? the difficult bit I did myself22:24
PasNoxany idea to set the content of my command in a export var ? i got again error :(22:24
RAOFPasNox: You probably want to run it through 'sed s/^uid[ ]*//', or some such to strip out the leading 'uid' and spaces.22:24
sebnernorsetto: why scary. just why /me and /that22:24
PasNoxok met try22:24
norsettosebner: you, because you need to enlarge your spectrum of work, that, because is the only one I have22:25
sebnernorsetto: ^^, you want to give me your only merge to me? *what a honour*, kk I'm taking it but annoying you if I need something ;)22:26
PasNoxRAOF: i got error trying executing this : mail=$(gpg --list-key $id | grep uid | sed s/^uid[ ]*//)22:28
geserPasNox: try mail="$(...)"22:33
PasNoxgeser, thanks it fix the space problem, now i need remove the uid and strip spaces22:34
PasNoxi'm trying the sed example of RAOF22:34
RAOFPasNox: This is going to fail on gpg keys with multiple IDs.22:35
PasNoxRAOF: do u have exemple of public multiple gpg key list ?22:36
RAOFMine22:36
RAOFProbably nearly every Ubuntu & Debian developer, actually :)22:36
PasNoxRAOF: can u paste somewhere so i can have an idea of multiple gpg key ?22:37
RAOFYou get one uid line per ID associated with the key.22:37
PasNoxok22:37
PasNoxbtw, the sed example u paste me some lines ago fails to run22:37
PasNoxit say unfinish sequence22:37
RAOFOh, you probably want to put it in quotes.22:38
RAOFAnd you may want the -r flag.22:38
PasNoxi'm doing this22:38
PasNoxexport DEBEMAIL="$(gpg --list-key $id | grep uid | sed s/^uid[ ]*//)"22:38
PasNoxif i remove sed part it's ok but i have uid at start22:39
PasNoxand i want not22:39
RAOFJust stick "s/^uid[ ]*//" in quotes, like that.22:39
PasNoxok22:40
PasNoxmy god, it's working22:40
geserPasNox: do you know if none of your team members has several ids on his key?22:41
PasNoxman really big thanks ;)22:41
PasNoxfor now, i think noone got a gpg key ;)22:41
PasNoxbut in case of, what i can try to only grab first line of multiple gpg key ?22:41
PasNoxi use --list-key does this will echo all associate fullname to this id ?22:42
gesergrep -m 1 ^uid22:42
PasNoxi don't understand differences between --list-keys and --list-key22:42
PasNoxthanks22:42
geserPasNox: there is none22:42
PasNoxah damn, why having multiple comand doing same ;)22:43
geserPasNox: gpg needs only enough letters to make a command unique22:43
PasNoxok22:44
PasNoxwell now it's working22:44
PasNoxlet test my script ;)22:44
geserPasNox: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/16282/ for the output for my keys (2 keys with each 4 uids)22:45
PasNoxthanks22:45
PasNoxok i see, thanks !22:46
PasNoxso the grep command u give me, will only get the first one available ?22:46
geser-m = --max-count22:47
PasNoxok22:47
PasNoxi'm not familiar with packagin, but once i create a source package, how another packager can create update package ? does he will need last available package source to update it ?22:48
sebnernorsetto: In 10 minutes I have a debdiff ready so you can review and upload it still today ^^22:49
geserPasNox: yes22:49
PasNoxand how he obtain it ?22:49
gesersebner: you give him only one minute to review and upload?22:49
geserPasNox: apt-get source <pkgname> if it's in some apt repository22:49
norsettosebner: take your time, just do it properly22:50
sebnernorsetto: Of course I do ^^22:50
PasNoxok great to know ;)22:50
sebnergeser: ^^, no just before he goes to bed22:50
geserah, because in 9 minutes is midnight and an new day stats22:51
norsettosebner: it would actually be nice to have the same source do two binary packages, a normal eggdrop and an eggdrop-ssl flavour22:51
sebnernorsetto: now you make me cry -.-22:51
norsettosebner: we only release in October, you still have time22:52
sebnernorsetto: personally I think we shouldn't increase the delta with debian :P22:52
norsettosebner: exactly, this way we reduce it22:53
sebnernorsetto: really? btw, so you don't want my debdiff now?22:53
norsettosebner: think about it22:54
sebnernorsetto: for me it seems to be the same amount of work22:55
PasNoxthanks for you help guyz22:55
PasNoxtime to bed !22:55
PasNoxbye22:55
sebnergeser: midnight -.-23:00
sebnernorsetto: I think I know how to handle that in debian/control but how in debian/rules  so that the new package gehts ssl support?23:03
norsettosebner: I didn't check whats in the patch, but I would say you need to call configure twice, the second time with the added option to enable ssl and with the patch applied23:05
sebnernorsetto: buh you have to show me :P23:06
norsettosebner: why? whats the value in me telling you what to do?23:07
sebnernorsetto: not telling, guiding. and what do teachers in school do?? tell, yes :P23:08
norsettosebner: nope. the guidance you've got, if you have questions ask but the best part of the exercise is for you how to solve a problem on your own23:09
sebnernorsetto: I know I know ^^23:09
norsettog'night all23:49
sebnergn8 norsetto23:49
RoAkSoAxbye norsetto23:50
sebnergn8 folks23:55

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