[00:00] <m-c> HymnToLife: but how do I go about doing the install without the bootable cd?
[00:00] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: nope..
[00:00] <HymnToLife> m-c: then, when the installer of the distro asks you where you want to install GRUB, install it on the partiton _NOT_ the MBR
[00:00] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: in konqueror
[00:00] <Naisenu> HymnToLife: nm me ... FF2 & FF3 don't share a common plugins dir
[00:00] <STSX> Xecuter; Should be "device.map" not devices.map I think...
[00:00] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: should really be there; lemme check
[00:00] <Sergeant_Pony> hi
[00:00] <m-c> HymnToLife: ah... so I should be able to run the installer within ubuntu ?
[00:00] <afallenhope> anyone have issues with the virtual terminals (CTRL+ALT+F1)??? When I switch to terminal one it's just a black screen... CTRL+ALT+F7 works to get back to the GUI though
[00:00] <HymnToLife> m-c: not all distros support installing that way
[00:00] <Sergeant_Pony> whats upp dawggg
[00:00] <aznanimedude> hmm, i'm trying to load guild wars and i hear the music but no game screem pops up
[00:00] <aznanimedude> wtf
[00:01] <HymnToLife> actually, only Gentoo supports it officially, IIRC
[00:01] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: sorry; is device.map
[00:01] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: yea, but its still not there
[00:01] <Sergeant_Pony> hhaha this is ponys daughter
[00:01] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: veery strange; anyone have a clue ?
[00:01] <Naisenu> Woot. Fixed. Thanks!
[00:01] <Sergeant_Pony> i dont know what u guys are talking aobut
[00:01] <m-c> HymnToLife: any experience installing debian ?
[00:01] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: its the arch boot if that makes a difference
[00:02] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: as far as I know it should always be there; but maybe you have to make it if not there..   Ehhh  the arch boot ?  what do you mean ?
[00:02] <aznanimedude> hmm, i'm trying to load guild wars and i hear the music but no game screem pops up, any ideas?
[00:02] <apetrescu> Is there a specific IRC channel for support for Ubuntu running on Mactels?
[00:02] <mythomaniac> Hello all... I seem to have a problem with getting firestarter to autostart after reboot... I changed the sudoer's file to include <username> ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter, while in sessions putting in sudo firestarter --start-hidden - but it doesn't work... can anyone help me?
[00:02] <HymnToLife> m-c: not without a CD
[00:03] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: i mean the boot dir that comes with arch linux
[00:03] <HymnToLife> shoult be doable, though
[00:03] <STSX> Xecuter_: Just a thought, but have considered just simply reinstalling Grub? You could save a copy of your menu.lst in case you need it.
[00:03] <Dasmoover> Hey, I've been trying to install ubuntu for months. After the kernal loads, it sits on a black booting screen with a loading cursor. Anyone help me?
[00:03] <m-c> okay thanks for your advice HymnToLife - I will ask around in the debian channels
[00:03] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: oohhh.. that could be different, of course.   But it' s still grub ?   or maybe LILO ?
[00:03] <HymnToLife> Dasmoover: would try the Alternate CD, if I were you
[00:03] <Dasmoover> I got the 8.04
[00:04] <Dasmoover> it did the same thing
[00:04] <HymnToLife> !alternate
[00:04] <ubot3> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[00:04] <aznanimedude> make sure no problems with XD
[00:04] <aznanimedude> mine worked just fine
[00:04] <Xecuter_> STSX: thats what i'm trying to do!
[00:04] <Dasmoover> and when i booted the live cd for 8.04 it stalls on a mango colored screen
[00:04] <grobda24> Where's ubottu bot ? Or maybe I should use ubot3 ?
[00:04] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: yes its grub
[00:04] <aznanimedude> ahh that happened to me too before
[00:04] <aznanimedude> i just made another one
[00:04] <aznanimedude> and that one worked fine
[00:05] <Dasmoover> my problem can be fixed with alternate cd?
[00:05] <aznanimedude> it might be
[00:05] <aznanimedude> worth a try
[00:05] <Dasmoover> i've heard something about my chipset and noacpci
[00:05] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: well, let me paste my device.map; you can try to use that after tweaking it to your situation ?
[00:06] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: hm okey
[00:06] <DeepThought> afallenhope: I had that problem with gutsy; not in hardy however, it's ok now
[00:06] <STSX> Xecuter_: Why not then do a "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"?
[00:07] <Marcus_Intalex> hi can somebody help me please i have problems using my asus dvd ram in ubuntu 8.04
[00:07] <Xecuter_> STSX: 'Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.'
[00:07] <STSX> mythomaniac: Can you run firestarter from the command line OK with sudo?
[00:07] <mythomaniac> STSX: yes
[00:08] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: http://pastebin.com/m5125e888
[00:08] <Dasmoover> Marcus Intalex is nice dnb :)
[00:08] <afallenhope> DeepThought: how'd you fix it
[00:08] <Marcus_Intalex> yes i know thx
[00:08] <STSX> Xecuter_: Did you make sure you used the right device? I just put sda in as an example.
[00:08] <Dasmoover> lol
[00:08] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: note how the order is topsy turveed; it was made just a-b-c-d bu grub; wich was wrong
[00:08] <Xecuter_> STSX: yes, its sda1
[00:08] <goldbond> i just upgraded to the new release, but my resolution is now limited to 800x600. i suspect i need to reconfigure my display. how can i do that?
[00:09] <STSX> Xecuter_: OK, but the actual command needs "sda" then, not "sda1"--did you use sda?
[00:09] <DeepThought> afallenhope: I didn' t , I installed hardy before It bugged me so much I wanted to fix it... ;-)
[00:09] <mythomaniac> STSX: even the firestarter website states to do as i did, but it wont autostart?
[00:09] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: just paste that into /boot/grub/device.map, and fix it for me of course
[00:09] <Xecuter_> STSX: yes, i get the same
[00:10] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: what do you mean ?
[00:10] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: i just make the  /boot/grub/device.map like that? for me that is...
[00:10] <langleyo> goldbond: you tried system-preferences-screen resolution?
[00:10] <PCcertified> Trouble installing a driver.   says kernel ver of GCC does not match gcc-3.4 .... for more detailed information please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/16081/
[00:11] <goldbond> langleyo, yes. the max is 800x600.
[00:11] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: oh, yes; just make new textfile in boot/grub (remember to open the folder as root) and ppaste the map, change the numbers and number of disks for you sys
[00:11] <STSX> mythomaniac: Does firestarter need sudo or gksudo? I'm not familiar with it, so is it a command run in the terminal or a GUI application?
[00:11] <langleyo> goldbond: kk...sorry...just checking
[00:12] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: There' s a prog that can show what he number of disks is right now, also a command in grub, but i' m sorry I forgot...
[00:12] <Starnestommy> STSX: gksudo is for graphical programs
[00:12] <mshanks> arg can't work this out. I don't run auto-updates on my machine (to avoid this problem) - mysql at some point in the last ~8 hours has stopped and now won't restart
[00:12] <mythomaniac> STSX: sudo worked fine in the command line, never tried gksu...
[00:12] <mshanks> the /var/log/mysql.err log is empty
[00:13] <Starnestommy> mshanks: what happens when you try to restart it?
[00:13] <mshanks> trying to start it (sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start) just returns fail
[00:13] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: anyway you cabn find out what it is at boot by editing the start-line in menu each time; if it boots, that' s the right number etc etc
[00:13] <STSX> Starnestommy: I know, that's exactly why I'm asking him whether it is GUI or not...
[00:13] <STSX> mythomaniac: OK so in sessions you are putting "sudo firestarter"?
[00:14] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: yeah that i know, but i have to get grub running first :P
[00:14] <mythomaniac> STSX: yes "sudo firestarter --start-hidden"
[00:14] <STSX> mythomaniac: And that exact command runs OK in a terminal?
[00:15] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: of course...  Also very useful can be qgrubeditor, when you get it on; is in synaptic; startup manager is great too, is sort of the same, though different
[00:15] <mythomaniac> STSX: let me see and i'll report back...
[00:15] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: and of course:
[00:15] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: | !grub
[00:15] <mythomaniac> STSX: yes "sudo firestarter --start-hidden" does indeed work through the command line...
[00:15] <mshanks> Starnestommy; any thoughts?
[00:16] <DeepThought> !grub
[00:16] <ubot3> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:17] <PCcertified> is there anybody here that can help me install a driver????
[00:17] <Starnestommy> PCcertified: a driver for what>
[00:17] <m-c> Q: anyone resolved the file-association issue with .torrent files in the 8.04 firefox 3? ?
[00:17] <Xecuter_> DeepThought: thanks for now, i'll be back later if i can't get it fixed ;P
[00:17] <DeepThought> Xecuter_: ok, good luck !
[00:17] <mythomaniac> STSX: let me restart my system again, i just copied and pasted the sudoer line from the firestarter site and see if that was the problem, that i typed it wrong...
[00:17] <PCcertified> Starnestommy: I'm trying to install a quickcam
[00:18] <Tr1pX> i need help! i am trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardon and it keeps saying it cannot calculate the upgrade
[00:18] <PCcertified> Starnestommy: I tried using the eaycam app and it gave me an error and I'm not sure what to do,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/16081/
[00:18] <tj83> PCcertified... did you ever get compiz working correctly?
[00:18] <Starnestommy> PCcertified: is build-essential installed?
[00:19] <PCcertified> yes tj83 I found a great link online for it and itworks GREAT now
[00:19] <PCcertified> yes Starnestommy
[00:19] <biatche_> I've a rsync question. Is SSH required for rsync?
[00:19] <Starnestommy> biatche_: I don't think so
[00:19] <gleesond> so I'm capturing video from /dev/video0
[00:19] <Tr1pX> has anyone had my problem
[00:19] <gleesond> but the image is upside down
[00:19] <tj83> PCcertified.... was it nvidia specific or compiz general? did you get rid of the errors that we both were having?
[00:19] <Starnestommy> PCcertified: try export CC=gcc-4.2
[00:20] <usuario> u
[00:20] <PCcertified> let me get you the link I followed tj83
[00:20] <tj83> thank you PCcertified.
[00:21] <Tr1pX> does anyone have the same problem when trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardon? it always says it cannot calculate the upgrade
[00:21] <PCcertified> that will change the environment variable right? Starnestommy
[00:21] <apetrescu> Haha, hardon xD
[00:21] <Starnestommy> PCcertified: it should
[00:21] <STSX> mythomaniac: So what's your status now? Did it finish booting?
[00:22] <PCcertified> tj83: http://www.howtoforge.com/compiz-fusion-ubuntu-8.04-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200
[00:22] <Thingus> Okay, Braesero is being funny...
[00:22] <PCcertified> i worked like a charm and now I have all the effects and all the decorations are working
[00:23] <PCcertified> I'll try that
[00:23] <lenrex> anybody know if i can load ubuntu 8.04 on a thumb drive to install it, instead of a cd?
[00:23] <mohbana> hi how do i mount a .img file or even better can i watch an .img file without mounting/burning it?
[00:23] <Thingus> I put a 4.7GB DVD in the drive, and try to burn a 3.8GB ISO, and it tells me that I don't have enough space on the DVD.
[00:23] <Flannel> !install | lenrex, you can
[00:23] <ubot3> lenrex, you can: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:23] <gutes> channels
[00:23] <gutes> list
[00:24] <brody> hey- I'm trying to partition my hard drive, and GParted won't let me adjust the size of my existing hardrive (ubuntu)  What should I do
[00:24] <Jalathan> Thingus: hrm, might there be not enough room in /tmp to hold the temporary ISO image?
[00:24] <Flannel> brody: Are you on a liveCD?
[00:24] <tucuna> brody - is the drive unmounted?
[00:24] <mohbana> hi how do i mount a .img file or even better can i watch an .img file without mounting/burning it?
[00:24] <Thingus> Jalathan, You could be right.
[00:24] <Flannel> !repeat | mohbana
[00:24] <ubot3> mohbana: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:24] <Tr1pX> ubot3: i have a problem with upgrading to heron it always says it cannot calculate the the upgrade
[00:24] <ubot3> Tr1pX: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[00:25] <brody> no i'm not on a live cd
[00:25] <Thingus> I only have 924MB free in my root partition...
[00:25] <mohbana> ok fine
[00:25] <Terabyte> Hey, on 7.04 how do I set it so that when I insert a dvd, the movie plays in VLC (assume VLC is installed)
[00:25] <Flannel> brody: You can't change partitions that are mounted.  Which means you probably can't change your Ubuntu partition from within Ubuntu
[00:25] <tj83> PCcertified.... That is nvidia specific.. As i have ATI... this wont help me.. but thanks for the effort.. compiz rarely gives me hassle so i will stick it out for updates to come.
[00:25] <branstrom> Who should I nag to update the broken vim package?
[00:25] <Jalathan> Thingus: do you have another partition that could handle it?
[00:25] <Flannel> branstrom: package maintanier
[00:25] <codecaine> waht broken in it branstorm?
[00:25] <brody> ok. . . should i install windows xp first and then partition?
[00:26] <Thingus> My /home has 4.4GB free
[00:26] <branstrom> codecaine: it breaks on tab complete with the plugins that provide it
[00:26] <Flannel> brody: No, just use a liveCD to repartition
[00:26] <tj83> brody.... always install windows first.
[00:26] <tucuna> brody - http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[00:26] <Jalathan> try having it place the temp file there
[00:26] <Thingus> Jalathan, Okay.
[00:26] <Jalathan> np
[00:26] <mythomaniac> STSX: well i narrowed it down to being something wrong with the sudoer's file, for when I restart the system and input the command: "sudo firestarter" it asks for sudo password...
[00:26] <brody> ok, thanks
[00:27] <Jalathan> Thingus: wait
[00:27] <PCcertified> tj83: you could try it. if you have your propietary drivers installed it should work.
[00:27] <Thingus> Jalathan, Yeah?
[00:27] <kraut> hi
[00:27] <STSX> mythomaniac: What did you use to modify your sudoers file? You should always use visudo because it won't let you save the file if there are any errors.
[00:27] <tj83> PCcertified... ok.. will look deeper.
[00:27] <kraut> how is the menu called where for example are wicd or nm-applet are integrated? i mean the menu in the upper bar? sysbar?
[00:27] <Tr1pX> Could not calculate the upgrade
[00:27] <mohbana> anyone get my question?
[00:28] <Tr1pX> kraut: right click the panel bar
[00:28] <will01> is there an easy way to remotely view and control another desktop over a vpn connection?
[00:28] <mythomaniac> STSX: i have exactly, in sudoer's file "<username> ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarter" and yes I use visudo to edit sudoer file
[00:28] <kraut> Tr1pX: that's the point, i'm missing that
[00:28] <mDemocritus> will01: VNC
[00:28] <jadewolf> anyone suggest a good TV tuner card for linux?
[00:28] <will01> ok
[00:28] <PCcertified> Starnestommy: it appears I have the same message
[00:28] <kraut> Tr1pX: any idea to load that one?
[00:28] <Jalathan> Thingus: nm, thought i misread something
[00:28] <m-c> mohbana: use the mount command
[00:28] <Terabyte> Hey, on 7.04 how do I set it so that when I insert a dvd, the movie plays in VLC (assume VLC is installed)
[00:28] <Jalathan> sry
[00:28] <Tr1pX> kraut: one sec
[00:28] <Thingus> Jalathan, Hold on...
[00:28] <STSX> mythomaniac: You need to replace <username> with your username--did you do that?
[00:29] <mohbana> m-c: no idea
[00:29] <mDemocritus> will01: i haven't played with it myself, but it works
[00:29] <mohbana> on how to use it
[00:29] <Tr1pX> kraut: when you right click you do not get a menu
[00:29] <mythomaniac> STSX: yes sir
[00:29] <jdroid-> hi. I followed the instructions for installing django: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Django and it doesn't seem to work
[00:29] <kraut> Tr1pX: i just have got the normal upper bar, but not that one, where such applets are be included
[00:29] <Thingus> !paste
[00:29] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[00:30] <codecaine> jdroid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLUS00QrYWw
[00:30] <m-c> mohbana: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount
[00:30] <jadewolf> no one uses TV Tuner Cards here?
[00:30] <PCcertified> Starnestommy: I tried using lauchcam export CC=gcc-4.2  but the error still says that gcc-3.4 is not the same.  maybe there is a different command to launch the application?
[00:30] <Tr1pX> kraut: can you right click that bar and get a menu
[00:30] <kraut> Tr1pX: yep
[00:30] <gnomer> question: does playing DVD's have a copyright problem playing on 8.04?
[00:30] <jdroid-> codecaine: ha. nice.
[00:30] <tucuna> jadewolf - TV? what's that?
[00:30] <tucuna> :)
[00:30] <STSX> mythomaniac: And if you type "which firestarter" does it return "/usr/bin/firestarter"?
[00:30] <kraut> Tr1pX: i could also add applications to it
[00:30] <mythomaniac> STSX: you know what there isn't a line in there showing "<username> All=(ALL) ALL
[00:30] <codecaine> lol
[00:30] <Thingus> Jalathan, Here's the log from Braesero: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16087/
[00:30] <kraut> Tr1pX: but i'm missing the applet of network-manager or wicd
[00:30] <Starnestommy> PCcertified: run "export gcc-4.2" first, then "launchcam"
[00:30] <jadewolf> tucuna: haha :) I'm gonna go get one and was wondering what would be the best one.
[00:30] <tj83> PCcertified.... I didnt take the time to read the whole thing... BUT... I essentially did all of those steps at install.. the only thing i did not install was emerald... But its installing now.
[00:30] <mythomaniac> STSX: only for root
[00:30] <Tr1pX> kraut: you have to click on "Add to Panel"
[00:30] <jdroid-> codecaine: i don't like ruby enough to want to use it. :)
[00:31] <Flannel> !dvd | gnomer
[00:31] <ubot3> gnomer: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:31] <kraut> Tr1pX: and add which one?
[00:31] <codecaine> its about django also :P
[00:31] <Tr1pX> kraut: for what function
[00:31] <codecaine> ruby gave them props
[00:31] <PCcertified> then you do a emerald --replace
[00:31] <STSX> mythomaniac: That's OK as long as you have "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" in there, and your username belongs to the admin group...
[00:31] <kraut> Tr1pX: to see wicd applet for example
[00:31] <Jalathan> Terabyte: have you gone to "System > Preferences > Preferred Applications".  Tab to "Multimedia". Set it as custom.  Command as "vlc %a"
[00:31] <Tr1pX> kraut: one sec
[00:32] <Terabyte> jalathan there is no multimedia tab in 7.04
[00:32] <Henri121> qualcuno ha fantasie su cugina
[00:32] <Terabyte> jalathan, there is an internet tab, and a system tab.
[00:32] <Chubbz> hello
[00:32] <jdroid-> codecaine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-4D51FY98&NR=1
[00:32] <Flannel> !it | Henri121
[00:32] <ubot3> Henri121: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:33] <tj83> PCcertified... compiz --replace still give the same error messaged after emerald is installed.... Effects have always worked for me... the errors is what had me curious...
[00:33] <gnomer> guys DVD movies that I have burned on windoze with dvd45 works fine running on ubuntu, but any master copies with not
[00:33] <mythomaniac> STSX: let me see if it works... i'll reboot now
[00:33] <Jalathan> Terabyte: sry
[00:33] <Tr1pX> kraut: do you have wicd installed and if you do but it does not show up go to a terminal and type whereis wicd and then in the add to panel menu click on custom App Launcher
[00:33] <gnomer> will
[00:33] <tucuna> Terabyte - 8.04 is a downgrade in usability: to set you preferred applications in hardy, especially VLC for DVD:
[00:33] <tucuna> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[00:33] <STSX> mythomaniac: wait please!
[00:33] <mDemocritus> !dvd | gnomer
[00:33] <ubot3> gnomer: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:33] <codecaine> jdroid lol
[00:33] <Terabyte> tucuna, i'm trying to use feisty 7.04
[00:33] <AcornAcorn> how do i change the volume on ubuntu?
[00:33] <tucuna> oh...
[00:33] <mohbana> hi how do i mount a .img file or even better can i watch an .img file without mounting/burning it?
[00:34] <STSX> mythomaniac: You can try it by first typing "sudo -k" which clears the sudo password cache, and then type your "sudo firestarter --start-hidden" in the terminal and see if it works without a password.
[00:34] <codecaine> coldfusion whats a command line lol
[00:34] <xenos> is there software that allows your usb storage devices to be automatically mounted? tired of doing mount /xyz/abc1 /temp. that gets OLD!
[00:35] <Jalathan> Thingus: one minute...
[00:35] <Flannel> xenos: It should mount automatically by default
[00:35] <Tr1pX> mohbana: http://phorolinux.com/mount-iso-image-file-iso-with-gmount-iso.html
[00:35] <mDemocritus> mohbana: try mount filename.img /home/username/mountpoint
[00:35] <mshanks> how do I update the locatedb?
[00:35] <Terabyte> so just to clarify, my question is, in 7.04, I want to get VLC to play my dvd's by default, how do I set this.
[00:35] <xenos> Flannel: Well it doesn't. so what shall we do, hmm...
[00:35] <jcn> hello just a simple question : I've advanced desktop effect from compiz (flubby windows etc... ) but how to have more desktop to make the cube ???
[00:35] <Chubbz> can someone help me with grub setup
[00:35] <Df_Yz> Hello all. I use 8.04. I recompile a kernel, install it, reboot pc. Alsa don't work. I think, that it needs ubuntu-modules for my kernel. Question: how to compile them? I didn't found ubuntu-modules-source or someting that)
[00:35] <Flannel> mshanks: updatedb
[00:35] <PCcertified> tj83: try emerald --replace as indicated in the webpage
[00:35] <LimCore> Terabyte: this thing is messed up in ubuntu, as far as I know (and in most linuxes) :/
[00:35] <gorio> can i play more than one sound per time ? ex. skype, mpe, kmess ?
[00:35] <Df_Yz> I need apt-get source blablabla ? ^_^
[00:35] <Terabyte> oh...
[00:36] <LimCore> Terabyte: but perhaps Im wrong
[00:36] <tj83> PCcertified.. I did so.. and i see different color window borders and no output of errors.
[00:36] <Flannel> jcn: Grab simple-ccsm (or the more complicated one, compizconfig-settings-manager) and change it to cube instead of pane
[00:36] <Df_Yz> * p.s. Sorry for my bad English ^_^
[00:36] <Terabyte> Don't really want to go back to XP, can't believe you can't set VLC to auto play dvd's that are inserted
[00:37] <Df_Yz> hmmm...
[00:37] <Terabyte> I mean it opens that other program, "movie player"
[00:37] <Flannel> xenos: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:37] <Chubbz> im having problems setting up my dual boot, ubuntu boots fine, but whenever i try to load windows, the screen goes black and nothing happens
[00:37] <tj83> jcn... if your wondering how to trigger the cube.... ctrl+alt+leftmousebutton
[00:37] <Flannel> Terabyte: You'll be able to change that
[00:37] <mDemocritus> Terabyte: there is a way to do it...
[00:37] <Tr1pX> i have a problem upgrading gutsy to heron "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[00:37] <Kakura> Alright I'm back, canb anyone help me with my screen resolution problem
[00:37] <Terabyte> flannel, mDemocritus, ok
[00:37] <Tr1pX> i have a problem upgrading gutsy to heron "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[00:38] <xenos> Flannel: 8
[00:38] <jc__> whats the command to add a user to a group?  I know you can edit the group file, but I thought there was a shell command to do it
[00:38] <legend2440> Terabyte: system>prefs>preferred apps or something like that.
[00:38] <PCcertified> tj83: the other ting I installed was the compiz config settings manager using synaptic
[00:38] <tinin> Kakura try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:38] <Terabyte> legend2440, the media tab doesn't exist there
[00:38] <Flannel> Terabyte: System > PRefereces > Removable Drives and Media > Multimedia
[00:38] <Tr1pX> i have a problem upgrading gutsy to heron "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[00:38] <Kakura> tinin: that just messes with the keyboard settings, nothing else, I've basically tried everything I can find on the web pretty much
[00:39] <tj83> PCcertified... Um... now there isnt any minimize/maximize/close buttons in the top right corner LOL
[00:39] <Flannel> !repeat | Tr1pX
[00:39] <ubot3> Tr1pX: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:39] <Terabyte> fan tastic, now what do I place there, "vcl %a" ?
[00:39] <legend2440> Terabyte: oh your using hardy i thought you said 704 ok open nautilus then edit prefs media
[00:39] <cha0s> Chubbz: what do you get from 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[00:39] <tinin> Kakura what's your problem ?
[00:39] <usser> jc_, try gpasswd -a username grouname
[00:39] <PCcertified> tj83:  it will install advnced desktop effects ettings in the system->Preferences menu so you can configure your settings
[00:39] <Terabyte> no i'm using 704
[00:39] <Flannel> Terabyte: I believe it's %d,
[00:39] <Terabyte> ok
[00:39] <AcornAcorn> how do i change the volume on ubuntu?
[00:39] <Kakura> tinin: well, My resolution won't go higher than 800 x 600, the highest it even shows
[00:39] <Flannel> Terabyte: you might need to enter the full path (/usr/bin/vlc %d)
[00:39] <tj83> PCcertified... yes... I did that long ago at install... the effects were working from the git-go...
[00:40] <Flannel> xenos: Do you remember if it did it the first time?  If you unplug without unmounting, it won't automount again
[00:40] <cha0s> AcornAcorn: GNOE-VOLUME-CONTROL
[00:40] <cha0s> erm
[00:40] <cha0s> gnome-volume control
[00:40] <brody> acornacorn-you can add a volume control option to your panel
[00:40] <PCcertified> tj83: I was sure emerald --replace would work for you
[00:40] <cha0s> gnome-volume-control ...
[00:40] <legend2440> Terabyte: open nautilus then edit>preferences>media
[00:40] <brody> right click on the panel add to panel volume control
[00:40] <tinin> Kakura you should make avaliable more resolutions at dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, just don't change the settings of your mouse
[00:41] <Terabyte> legend2440, flannel, mdemocritus, limcore, tucana, jalathan, thanks I will try that.
[00:41] <STSX> Flannel: I think the %d is deprecated, I think it's %f now...
[00:41] <tj83> well i did compiz --replace and then emerald --replace again and now the top bar is back... whew!
[00:41] <Flannel> Terabyte: see what STSX said
[00:41] <Terabyte> worked like a charm, :)
[00:41] <tinin> Kakura: *keyboard
[00:41] <Kakura> tinin: unless I'm doing something wrong, I have done that 5 times, and it just did keyboard settings, then closed out
[00:41] <xenos> Flannel: it does automatically recognize that "something is mounted" but ..hmm maybe i should msg you with the output.
[00:41] <PCcertified> tj83: you do not need to do compiz.
[00:41] <jc__> usser: thanks thats what I was looking for
[00:41] <Terabyte> went to preferences, removable, multimedia, changed dvd entry to "vcl %d"
[00:41] <Flannel> xenos: And an icon doesn't show up on the desktop?
[00:42] <Terabyte> so thanks flannel ^_
[00:42] <gosmack> I am having a few issues with my update manager and my add/remove progs
[00:42] <gosmack> when I attempt to add something it hangs, and when i try to install anything it just hangs.
[00:42] <gosmack> What to do?
[00:42] <STSX> Terabyte: I believe it's supposed to be %f instead of %d
[00:42] <PCcertified> tj83:  it was compiz that was giving me trouble, with emerald it works perfectly.  I think it's cuz compiz doesn't have the correct windows decorations installed
[00:42] <tj83> PCcertified.. all seems well again but going to do a reboot just to see if its going to restart x with the same condidions... and i have to get rid of this purple color!
[00:43] <Flannel> gosmack: Does it give you an error or anything?  Lets try and upgrade, see if those packages have upgrades that may fix it.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:43] <PCcertified> just do ctrl-alt-backspace to reload your desktoppppppppp
[00:43] <tinin> Kakura try with a graphical program, I use kde and it is easy to configure the screen
[00:43] <tj83> conditions*
[00:43] <Kakura> tinin: how I do that?
[00:43] <xenos> Flannel "A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error. name "(uset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")
[00:44] <mrwizard> I have a bit of a challenge. I have an old computer that I would like to put ubuntu on. It's a computer with no cd burner. It's a PPC computer. It has no internet, and no usb. I have another computer that can connect to it using ethernet that has internet, but a broken cd drive. It does have usb. The target computer currently runs Mac OS X 9.2.2. The other computer runs Mac OS X 10.4.11. Is there a way to put ubuntu on it?
[00:44] <gosmack> yeah it doesn't give me an error at all
[00:44] <Terabyte> stsx, I have just tried it with %f (out of idle curiosity) it opens vlc, but does not play the file. %d works fine though.
[00:45] <tinin> Kakura you can try krandrtray, for example
[00:45] <Kakura> tinin: how do I get to it is what I mean
[00:45] <Chapai> is there an ipod management took for ubuntu
[00:45] <STSX> Terabyte: OK, I'll have to check my references and see why mine say to use %f instead. Thanks for the feedback.
[00:45] <cellofellow> Chapai: a few
[00:45] <brody> yes hippo ipod management
[00:45] <Trae> Hey, if anyone here runs World of Warcraft in Wine, I'd love some help with this Mouse problem I've been having since I installed Ubuntu 8.04.   It's been going on since release.   The problem is this: When I press both buttons I get a "null" dragging motion.  On windows (and the way it used to be on Ubuntu 7.04) when I press both buttons then engage at the same time.
[00:46] <Trae> err  "the buttons engage at the same time"
[00:46] <gosmack> Flannel: Hey thanks!  That worked out pretty well.  It's downloading all my updates and it's hopefully going to work out.
[00:46] <Chapai> is hippo in repo brody
[00:46] <kkathman> if I have compiz and emerald working in kubuntu, what would I need to install to make it work on the gnome side?
[00:46] <brody> yes
[00:46] <Chubbz> can someone help me with a grub issue? Cannot get grub to chainload into windows
[00:46] <nico8481> what package should i install to get /usr/bin/php? (better, how can i know what package i should install to get a particular file?)
[00:46] <Chapai> cellofellow, which is better
[00:46] <nico8481> php5 is not the one
[00:46] <MartyMoose> google
[00:46] <tinin> Kakura search for some graphical configuration program for xog.com
[00:46] <QueRicoMate> kkathman, compiz-gnome
[00:46] <brody> you can go to applications add/remove hippo ipod manager
[00:47] <cellofellow> Chapai: no idea, I have a SanDisk Sansa.
[00:47] <kkathman> QueRicoMate,  thank you :)
[00:47] <Chapai> ok
[00:47] <aznanimedude> hmm, i'm trying to load guild wars and i hear the music but no game screem pops up, any ideas?
[00:47] <QueRicoMate> kkathman, no problem man!!!
[00:47] <tinin> *xorg.conf Kakura
[00:47] <nico8481> isn't there an option in apt or something?
[00:47] <amenado> nico8481-> perhaps you can man dpkg   its one of the options for this
[00:47] <Chubbz> nico8481: its almost easier to do install LAMPs from source
[00:47] <kkathman> QueRicoMate,  will ccsm work ok once I get compiz-gnome installed ?
[00:48] <nico8481> Chubbz, well actually i only need php to run a script i don't plan to install a webserver
[00:48] <QueRicoMate> kkathman, it should work fine... install that and tell me if u have some problem
[00:48] <Chubbz> i see
[00:48] <amenado> nico8481-> something like  dpkg -S path/to/file
[00:48] <kkathman> QueRicoMate, ok kewl
[00:49] <nico8481> amenado, something like that, but that's only for installed packages :-(
[00:49] <PCcertified> I give up, installing wecams in ubuntu requires an engineering degree.
[00:49] <Kakura> tinin: you know of any?
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified Not really, it just requires you look at a list and buy supported hardware
[00:50]  * cha0s takes away PCcertified;s certification
[00:50] <Thingus> clear
[00:50] <PCcertified> Jack_Sparrow: my cam is supported
[00:50] <tinin> Kakura, no, only kde things
[00:50] <Thingus> oops... ><
[00:50] <aznanimedude> it does PC
[00:50] <aznanimedude> w00t for me
[00:50] <aznanimedude> =D
[00:50] <amenado> nico8481-> yes off course, you dont expect to find something that has not been installed yet do you?
[00:50] <DanielRM> I don't suppose anyone knows why Skype crashes whenever I delete any folders beginning with 's' in my home directory? They're only temporary folders which I'm setting up deliberately; there aren't even any files in them.
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified There is supported and a cam that one person has managed to get going on their system..
[00:51] <kkathman> QueRicoMate, hmm execute compiz --replace - doesnt seem to have done anything - still looks like Im on the old metacity :(
[00:51] <legend2440> i have a similar question to Terabytes only about Hardy. when i open nautilus and go to preferences>media>DVD Video it is set to Open Monvie Player which i think is Totem. How would i change default player to mplayer or vlc. the drop down box only offers Ask what to do or do nothing or open file. how do you change it?
[00:51] <Sergeant_Pony> my apologies for my daughters disruption in the channel earlier.
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified I bought the cheapest generic can in the store.. $9 and it works with skype and everything else
[00:51] <DanielRM> legend2440: right-click, properties, open with.
[00:52] <aznanimedude> i like mine logitech QCC STX
[00:52] <aznanimedude> works fine for me
[00:52] <Chubbz> can some one help me iwht a complex grub issue?
[00:52] <legend2440> DanielRM: its a dvd right click what ? the icon on the desktop?
[00:53] <PCcertified> Jack_Sparrow: I have 2 cams and one of them is a quickcam home.  the easycam app on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam#head-ba7a5e02f2e8a08c8f04c463f05c792c7bc407be  identified it a supported cam but fails to install the driver
[00:53] <DanielRM> Oh, a DVD. Sorry. In that case go into the DVD video directory and do the same on either the .ifo file or a .vob file.
[00:53] <DanielRM> legend2440: Oh, a DVD. Sorry. In that case go into the DVD video directory and do the same on either the .ifo file or a .vob file.*
[00:53] <nico8481> amenado, nevermind
[00:54] <Terabyte> legend2440 i did it in hardy a few hours ago, i'm sure it allowed you to specify a command, in which case the command is vlc %f or %d (%d in 704 works for me)
[00:54] <kkathman> QueRicoMate,  ahh never mind - had to reset the ccsm stuff - I thought it would use the settings I set in kubuntu
[00:54] <QueRicoMate> kkathman, but u got it workin?
[00:54] <kkathman> QueRicoMate,  yep
[00:54] <QueRicoMate> kkathman, cool
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified For starters anything that starts with debian unstable main brings up questions..
[00:55] <cmdrpinksock> any word on the 8.04 fix for the graphics cards?
[00:55] <Chubbz> anyone know of a decent divx/xvid codec for ubuntu
[00:55] <PCcertified> Jack_Sparrow: I agree but what can I do, throw out 2 cams and buy another one?
[00:56] <aznanimedude> did you make sure the webcams were verified as compatible in linux?
[00:56] <bnknet> anyone put ubuntu on a newer gateway laptop?
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified If using a cam is a big deal for you.. yes.. sell them to a windows user
[00:57] <PCcertified> Jack_Sparrow: yes it is a big deal to me, and I suppose you're right...
[00:58] <tj83_> PCcertified.... weird... when i edit the them in emerald manager... it doesnt stick after reboot
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified Did you read that page where it shows a list of supported cams.. and is your cam in that list?
[00:59] <RainMaker> Hi.
[00:59] <Sergeant_Pony> Jack_Sparrow do you know how to make vlc the default media / audio player ?
[00:59] <RainMaker> How can I create a databse in Mysql?
[00:59] <ledbettj> /
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified It looks to me that easycam is the name of the software package not necessarilly the name of a specific brand of webcam
[00:59] <evilgnome> Sergeant_Pony: Preferences>Preferred applications
[00:59] <cmdrpinksock> any word on the 8.04 fix for the graphics cards?
[01:00] <Chubbz> @Rainmaker: can you get to the mysql shell?
[01:00] <amenado> RainMaker-> please visit #mysql
[01:00] <RainMaker> k
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Sergeant_Pony system..pref..preferd apps
[01:00] <cmdrpinksock> any word on the 8.04 fix for the graphics cards, restriced drivers
[01:00] <boo_gy> I need to get white text on a transparent panel, anyone have any tips?
[01:00] <Sergeant_Pony> evilgnome it's not listed under preferred apps
[01:00] <evilgnome> Sergeant_Pony: write it in
[01:00] <QueRicoMate> boo_gy, it depends on the gtk theme... and there s a gnome color chooser ive never tried but that can do that
[01:00] <PCcertified> Jack_Sparrow: thats correct... it is an app to install one of may brands of cam
[01:01] <RainMaker> Chubbz what do you mean?
[01:01] <evilgnome> Sergeant_Pony: also, you can right click on files of the type you want vlc to be associated with, and make vlc the default open-with item
[01:01] <Chubbz> type mysql ina terminal window
[01:01] <Sergeant_Pony> evelgnome ok cool and thanks
[01:01] <Thingus> Okay, I need something other than Brasero to burn this DVD...
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified And is your cam in the list of Easycam supported webcams
[01:02] <boo_gy> Hmm... gnome color chooser, I'll look into that. Thanks
[01:02] <evilgnome> Hello everyone. I recently updated everything, including the kernel, and I think I need to update some audio things because it's all silent here now. any tips? please?
[01:02] <cmdrpinksock> anyone know a fix for the Nvidia Drivers for 8.04 release?  Hardware drivers, and ENVY does not fix the startup in "Low graphics mode"
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified Sorry if I seem argumentative.. I do not mean to sound that way....  Just trying to cut to the root of the problem and ease your pain..
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified It will only hurt for a minute.. then we can move on
[01:03] <cmdrpinksock> evilgnome:  what kind of sound card do you have?
[01:03] <Jalathan> Thingus: *sigh* this is irritating.  I'm afraid that I can't help you on this, as the configuration files for Brasero are nonexistent from what I can tell... -_-
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> cmdrpinksock envy from the web or envyng from the repos.. there is a difference
[01:03] <cmdrpinksock> Jack:  Tried both, niether work
[01:03] <Jalathan> Thingus: do you have any of the kde libraries installed?
[01:03] <evilgnome> cmdrpinksock ca0106
[01:04] <Thingus> Jalathan, No.
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> cmdrpinksock which video card
[01:04] <notv> is the desktop download for ubuntu the same as the laptop download?
[01:04] <mythomaniac> Can anyone help me in adding my user name to the admin group in the sudoer's file?
[01:04] <cmdrpinksock> evil: did you upgrade from 7.1 to 8.04?
[01:04] <Thingus> Jalathan, But, I'm installing K3b anyway.
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> cmdrpinksock and if you tried the one from the web first, that could have added to the problem
[01:04] <Sergeant_Pony> notv it was for me
[01:04] <cmdrpinksock> Jack: 8600m-GT
[01:04] <Flannel> notv: er... there should be no "Laptop" Download
[01:04] <Df_Yz> mythomaniac: Do you use GUI or CLI?
[01:05] <Sergeant_Pony> notv I downloaded the desktop version and it works fine on my laptop
[01:05] <cmdrpinksock> Jack: I know, but I uninstalled the re installed first
[01:05] <mythomaniac> Df_Yz: lets do it from within visudo?
[01:05] <evilgnome> cmdrpinksock: nope, just a full-upgrade from maybe two weeks ago
[01:05] <Df_Yz> mythomaniac: Hm... :)
[01:05] <Jalathan> Thingus: you preemptively answered my question.. :)
[01:05] <cmdrpinksock> evil: software or hardware?
[01:05] <notv> sorry im a noob
[01:05] <Sergeant_Pony> n/p
[01:05] <evilgnome> cmdrpinksock: just sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[01:05] <Flannel> notv: "Desktop" Edition is for regular (non-server) computers
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> cmdrpinksock the 8000's have been a pain since they came out..   Ok.. so you did use the web one first...  even if you think you got it all out and cleaned up.. it still could be part of the prob
[01:06] <Bodsda> notv, the desktop will work on pretty much anything (welcome to Ubuntu)
[01:06] <tj83_> <--- has quick question... under power management dim at ilde is not checked for AC power... yet it still behaves as it does on battery... any ideas why?
[01:06] <Df_Yz> mythomaniac: in bash type man usermod
[01:06] <cmdrpinksock> Jack: ok, so how do i start fresh?
[01:06] <cmdrpinksock> evil: what version do you have?
[01:06] <Df_Yz> mythomaniac: There is a "-G" option :)
[01:07] <Flannel> mythomaniac, Df_Yz, make *sure* you remember -a
[01:07] <evilgnome> cmdrpinksock: hardy
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> cmdrpinksock I would try manually getting the binary nvidia driver and working at it from there unless you made a backup (Which I always recommend) after you did your base install
[01:07] <cmdrpinksock> Jack: Yeah, no backup
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[01:07] <ubot3> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> cmdrpinksock Is where I would start
[01:08] <cmdrpinksock> Jack: ok thanks
[01:08] <Df_Yz> mythomaniac: have you found?
[01:08] <InvaderAmoto> Hello everyone. I have this problem with a Maxtor IDE drive where it works fine for a while then just stops working. A reboot makes it work again, but after a while it stops working. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
[01:08] <Jalathan> Thingus: within K3B you can select the directory to temporarily store the file under "Settings > Configure K3b...".  I have to wish you luck, as I need to hop off.
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> cmdrpinksock Did you install the nvivid configure thingy.. sorry I cant rem the name
[01:08] <Bodsda> is it possible to have the desktop background play a video instead of displaying a picture?
[01:08] <cmdrpinksock> Jack: yeha
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !find nvidia
[01:08] <ubot3> Found: nvidia-xconfig, nvidia-kernel-common
[01:08] <mythomaniac> Df_Yz: yes i'm reading it over right now ;)
[01:09] <cmdrpinksock> evil: hardy still has probs, however it found my realtek card fine
[01:09] <cmdrpinksock> evil: maybe goto the manf and see about linux drivers
[01:09] <Thingus> Gah!
[01:09] <D3RGPS31> Is it possible to disable Ubuntu's firewall?
[01:09] <evilgnome> cmdrpinksock: It's been working just fine since the release until this upgrade
[01:09] <Thingus> Even K3b fails...
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> D3RGPS31 YEs.. read man iptables
[01:10] <InvaderAmoto> i think ubuntu's firewall is disabled by default
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[01:10] <ubot3> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:10] <Thingus> Looks like I have to fall back to ISOburn in Windows.
[01:10] <cmdrpinksock> evil: hrmmmmm...............
[01:10] <Terabyte> Hey, I want to be able to do things on this computer while i'm somewhere else, I figured I can do that with ssh, Assuming this is a fresh 7.04 install, what do i have to do to this machine to allow me to connect to it.
[01:10] <InvaderAmoto> Terabyte: You could use vnc instead
[01:11] <Bodsda> evilgnome, how many sound devices?     asoundconf list         will tell you
[01:11] <InvaderAmoto> its built right into ubuntu
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Terabyte Read   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:11] <Terabyte> thanks jack,
[01:11] <Terabyte> invader i'll take a look
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:11] <dori> the CPU frequency scaling has gone bonkers on my laptop, is there an easy way to turn it off in 7.10?
[01:11] <mythomaniac> Df_Yz: hmmm, I don't want to add my username to the admin group forever, I just want to allow it to run one command without password - like autostarting firestarter after reboot?
[01:11] <evilgnome> Bodsda: just one, CA0106
[01:11] <codecaine> Terabyte have to install openssh to because to connect to your ssh server at home
[01:12] <gosmack> I was able to get the update manager to install updates and hopefully not give me any more troubles.  But the add/remove programs is still hanging when i select a program to install.  It won't pop up the password prompt like normal.  What should I do?
[01:12] <notv> how does fat32 stack up to ext3?
[01:12] <Bodsda> evilgnome, do you get sound if you type           killall pulseaudio        ?
[01:12] <Bodsda> notv, ext3 ftw!
[01:12] <InvaderAmoto> So nobody can help me with my hard drive problem?
[01:12] <tj83_> notv... it doesnt
[01:12] <Bodsda> !patience | InvaderAmoto
[01:12] <ubot3> InvaderAmoto: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:12] <evilgnome> Bodsda: nope
[01:12] <codecaine> fat32 sucks thats how it stacks up
[01:13] <codecaine> lol
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> mythomaniac Firestarter does not need to start to be working. It only configures the tables.. unless you are using it to share a connection, in which case you can add it to the startup
[01:13] <notv> i guess i dont really need to share anything with my windows partition
[01:13] <InvaderAmoto> sorry bodsda
[01:13] <Bodsda> InvaderAmoto, oops,. factoid changed sorry,.,. just try hangin around for a bit someone might come along later who can help
[01:13] <InvaderAmoto> i was just asking in case somebody didnt read what i said earlier
[01:13] <tj83_> notv... you can mount your ext3 in windows if you wish
[01:13] <tj83_> there is a free app on the net for it... ext2free or somthing of the sort
[01:13] <Bodsda> evilgnome, im not really sure what to suggest sorry
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ext2fs
[01:14] <Terabyte> brilliant jack_sparrow, worked :)
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Terabyte YEa
[01:14] <tj83_> Jack_sparrow... thanks for the correction
[01:14] <CrocoJet> how mark shuttleworth make money with ubuntu ?
[01:14] <gosmack> Dell
[01:14] <Bodsda> InvaderAmoto, askyour question, if no one has answered in about 5 mins ask again just dont flood the channel ;~)
[01:14] <Df_Yz> mythomaniac: man sudo
[01:14] <CrocoJet> Dell ?
[01:15] <Df_Yz> mythomaniac: man sudoers :)
[01:15] <aznanimedude> hmm, i'm trying to load guild wars and i hear the music but no game screen pops up, any ideas?
[01:15] <Bodsda> CrocoJet, this is a support channel -- try google
[01:15] <eshear> I just installed hardy heron, and I want to apt-get install php4-cli...is there something special I need to do? I ran apt-get update but it still doesn't find it when I run isntall
[01:15] <gosmack> yes Dell
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok.. I am out of answers, I will come back when I think of more..
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[01:15] <Bodsda> cya Jack_Sparrow
[01:15] <notv> how much space does hardy take after install?
[01:15] <gosmack> Ubuntu comes on dell servers if you request it.  Since it's a $$$ based product, there is money in the support
[01:16] <n3urogod> hi guys, I have managed to "connect to server" via the file browser and I can browse the files with no issues, however I want to be able to save downloads to that share and I can't find where it is mounted to??
[01:16] <mythomaniac> Jack_Sparrow: correct, however, i seem to have a problem with getting sudoer's file syntax down to allow it to startup after a boot, for example <username> ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter does not work, also adding <username> ALL=(ALL) ALL does not resolve the issue...
[01:16] <tj83_> notv... not much... but need room to grow.. i think its around 3gb. not certain though
[01:17] <n3urogod> notv, I have just installed hardy and its taking 2.8GB
[01:17] <tj83_> <---was close :)
[01:17] <InvaderAmoto> Ok, i have another problem that I've been meaning to get addresed. I run team fortress 2 (a windows game) with wine and sometimes the game doesnt refresh, or the screen doesnt refresh unless the mouse is moving. I was thinking it might be a problem with if the game has ubuntu's focus (is on top).
[01:17] <notv> im thinking of having hardy and ubuntu studio and a few other things, but saving most of my stuff on a seperate home partition
[01:17] <m_newton> Hay, Any one USE deluge-torrent?? How is it? IS it recommended over azureus??
[01:18] <n3urogod> m_newton, I dont but qbittorrent looks good so far
[01:18] <Bodsda> m_newton, transmission is default in hardy    ask in #ubuntu-bots maybe
[01:18] <Xecuter> i'm back! just though of something, i just installed a new SATA-harddrive, on 8.04 it doesn't matter, however on 7.10, which i'm using now, theres a difference since SATA and PATA are sda and hda... does this consern my problem with fixing grub
[01:18] <Xecuter> ?
[01:18] <gorio> whats the command to setup ALSA ?
[01:19] <tj83_> gorio.... try alsaconfig... worked in debian
[01:19] <n3urogod> m_newton, also the deluge site appears to be down atm :/
 http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/download-linux-unix-deluge-gui-bittorrent-client.html  this site says that deluge-gui is good
[01:19] <gorio> tj83, i'm using Ubuntu 8.04
[01:19] <larson9999> i've been getting lots crashes in ubuntu.  about 1-2 a day for a LONG time.  since feisty.  i always chalked it up to flash, nvidia or sometime.  i did full reinstalls as well as upgrades and no luck.  recently i did some distro shopping and discovered this machine doesn't crash as all in sabayon, arch, or slacware.
[01:20] <Bodsda> Xecuter, grub is only a prob if theres a distro on this new drive
[01:20] <Bodsda> larson9999, thats nice
[01:20] <tj83_> gorio.... i just tried it... your right it doesnt work in 8.04.... not sure... try google.
 at first glance sabayon looks cool!
[01:20] <InvaderAmoto> larson9999: is it a hard lock up in which you have to press your computer's power button or does it come back?
[01:21] <Xecuter> Bodsda: i'm having a grub problem; error 15, so i have to reconfigure grub... and ive followed the guide at ubuntuforums, but it doesnt work
[01:21] <larson9999> Bodsda, not really.  i'd like to give this laptop to my 7 year old with ubuntu since it's a bit more user friendly.  but i don't want to give it to him while it's crashy pants
[01:21] <tj83_> gorio.... "alsa --help" doesnt give anythin pertaining to setup either.
[01:21] <m_newton> I have an hardy ubuntu server, it cant connect to internet though :( Is there any way i can connect to internet through wirelessly
[01:22] <InvaderAmoto> Xecuter: if you have multiple hard drives try setting the boot order to go to one of the other drives. that fixed the same problem for me
[01:22] <Bodsda> larson9999, well i think you should take it upon yourself to ask for help then
[01:22] <Zaiden> Is there an N64 emulator for 64 bit hardy?
[01:22] <larson9999> InvaderAmoto, the lockup where the mouse moves but you can't click on anything.  reisub don't work.  only why i've been able to get out is to power off.
[01:22] <Xecuter> InvaderAmoto: How_
[01:22] <Xecuter> anyone know how i change keyboard layouts? this english setting is fucking killing me!
[01:22] <InvaderAmoto> Xecutor: in your BIOS there are settings for this
[01:23] <Seeker`> !language | Xecuter
[01:23] <ubot3> Xecuter: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:23] <UbuntuDude> Hello
[01:23] <sabry> hi
[01:23] <m_newton> hello
[01:23] <Bodsda> !hi | UbuntuDude
[01:23] <ubot3> UbuntuDude: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:23] <UbuntuDude> hi ubot, bodsca, m_newton
[01:23] <Seeker`> Xecuter: System -> preferences -> keyboard -> layout
[01:23] <m_newton> ..;lol ubuntudude
[01:23] <Bodsda> !lol
[01:23] <ubot3> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[01:24] <redshadowhero> So.. I think the adobe flash plugin is causing Ubuntu to crash *and* lose sound. So, with that in mind, I want to replace it. Any suggestions that are better?
[01:24] <larson9999> InvaderAmoto, it also crashes with debian.
[01:24] <UbuntuDude> I hate to be a foul weather friend, but video editing is driving me bonkers
[01:24] <InvaderAmoto> larson9999: i had the same problem as you. Unfortanatly so do many others. and i dont beleive all of them have found a fix. It turns out there are multiple things causing that problem. Mine was disk I/O errors.
[01:24] <Bodsda> redshadowhero, theres nothing wrong with flash at my end but theres a few alternatives i think (cant remember the names though)
[01:25] <InvaderAmoto> larson9999: and if it is disk I/O errors, it wouldnt show up in system log viewer becuase it cant write to disk.
[01:25] <redshadowhero> Bodsda: well, as soon as I close flash content, my audio turns back on a little later. The only crashes I've had is when flash-based content comes up.
[01:25] <cmdrpinksock> xubuntu install stops at disk partition screen on alter cd install.  says !!! ??? or something
[01:25] <cmdrpinksock> ???
[01:25] <Xecuter> Seeker`: done that 1000 times, doesn't work...
[01:25] <tj83_> same here flash is ok... adobe reader sometimes gives a fit.
[01:25] <InvaderAmoto> larson9999: give me a minute to find the bug report of this.
[01:26] <Bodsda> redshadowhero, ok,.,. flash seems to be your prob,.,. have you un-installed then reinstalled the flash non-free pluggin?
[01:26] <larson9999> InvaderAmoto, yeah i know.  i've been searching forums for a couple years :) i chalked it up to an issue with linux in general.  i was kinda shocked that those other distros haven't crashed once.
[01:26]  * UbuntuDude wounders if anybody is knowing about video editing next
[01:26] <Bodsda> cmdrpinksock, use the live cd? i had similar probs with alt cd (i dont know of a fix)
[01:26] <cmdrpinksock> ???
[01:26] <Seeker`> Xecuter: Can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <redshadowhero> Bodsda: ...you know what? I think I have, but I'm unsure. So, with that in mind, I'll do it again.
[01:27] <cmdrpinksock> Bodsda:  That the prob...  live cd will not work becasue not enough memory, lol
[01:27] <B-rabbit> hey why doesn't pidgin support web cams? is there  solution to this problem?
[01:27] <Bodsda> redshadowhero, always good to double check
[01:27] <cmdrpinksock> only has 64 M
[01:27] <Xecuter> Seeker`: I'm running a live cd
[01:27] <cmdrpinksock> one of the memorey chip wont detect.
[01:27] <QueRicoMate> B-rabbit, amsn skype ekiga these last two audio too
[01:27] <suRs> how do i remove the xubuntu loading screen ?? when i boost my ubuntu?
[01:28] <Seeker`> Xecuter: Afaik, it doesn;t usually default to a gb layout
[01:28] <QueRicoMate> suRs, startup manager
[01:28] <B-rabbit> QueRicoMate, i duno what yu mean mate?
[01:28] <Bodsda> Xecuter, mount your ubuntu partition to get to the xorg.conf if your on live cd
[01:28] <redshadowhero> Bodsda: trust me, I know that one for a fact. :P
[01:28] <suRs> quericomate were is starup manager? i use xubuntu
[01:28] <QueRicoMate> B-rabbit, what do i mean with what?
[01:28] <Xecuter> Bodsda: why do you want my xorg.conf file_
[01:29] <InvaderAmoto> larson9999: if u want to try to narrow it down a little to see if your problem is like mine, just leave the computer without touching the mouse or keyboard next time it crashes. for me it would come back but opening apps or doing anything related to reading the disk would cause a crash or make a disk I/O error pop up. To fix it i had to use a SATA drive to install on instead of my IDE drive.
[01:29] <Bodsda> Xecuter, not me, Seeker` requested it
[01:29] <QueRicoMate> suRs, sudo apt-get install startupmanager or search it trough synaptic or i dont know what xubuntu uses, but u can change the splash screen by that
[01:30] <Xecuter> Forget about that! help me with my grub problem instead!
[01:30] <Bodsda> or you could try asking politely
[01:30] <sabry> excuse me... i have problem with EKIGA
[01:30] <sabry> can any one help me?
[01:30] <m_newton> Anyone know hot to reset the IP on a wireless network. Like (ipconfig /flushdns ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew) on windows??
[01:30] <Bodsda> !ask | sabry
[01:30] <ubot3> sabry: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:30] <sabry> thanks
[01:31] <Bodsda> np
[01:31] <Matt12> I removed the partition that had ubuntu on it. Now, when I turn on my computer i get "Error 17"
[01:31]  * UbuntuDude will try that also.
[01:31] <InvaderAmoto> Xecuter: i had tons of problems with grub a while back because i didnt no how it worked. look up how it works and you might be able to figure out your problem.
 might be a grub error!
[01:31] <QueRicoMate> Matt12, re install partiton table by re installing configuring grub
[01:32] <Matt12> m_newton it is...what can I do
[01:32] <Matt12> how do I do that
[01:32] <Matt12> i can't get on the computer at all
[01:32] <suRs> querucimate how can i add back my applecation to my bar meny?
[01:32] <Matt12> I used the Hardy disk but I got the same thing
 Do you have a live cd with you
[01:32] <codecaine> anybody connect to server apps on my virtualbox because its using a nat using firestarter?
[01:32] <QueRicoMate> Matt12, use alive cd and do so
[01:32] <Matt12> I have the hardy live cd, m_newton
[01:33] <Matt12> but the same thing happens when I turn the computer on
[01:33] <codecaine> anybody know how I can connect to server apps on my virtualbox because its using a nat using firestarter? I meant
[01:33] <Bodsda> Matt12, you need to change the boot order in your bios to boot from cd first
[01:33] <Jatz> hey, I'm having some trouble with an rs232 cable
[01:33] <Jatz> it's rs232/usb, male on both ends
[01:33] <Xecuter> i get a grub error 15, and im trying to get it working by running the grub shell from a live cd, my /boot is on /dev/sda1, but i cant get grub to realise that! 'find /boot/grub/stage1' says hd(2,0), but thats not working... any ideas_
[01:33] <Matt12> bodsda...the first screen I get is the lenovo screen, the second is the error.
[01:33] <tj83> anyone know why emerald doesnt start up at boot? or atleast its themes are not visible?
 I have 2 sites for you (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto  and   http://linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_repair_your_grub)
[01:34] <Jatz> it doesn't show up in /dev or dmesg, so am I right in assuming it has to be plugged into another cable/device to do anything?
[01:34] <InvaderAmoto> Xecutor: do you have multiple hard drives?
[01:34] <joshual> hey folks running ubuntu 8.04 on a dell inspiron 1525 that had 7.10 preinstalled (then i upgraded), i am trying for the first time to get the memory card reader to read... nothing appears in dmesg when inserting card.
[01:34] <Bodsda> Matt12, on the lenvo screen  (or just before) it should say something like "Press F2 for bios"
[01:34] <larson9999> InvaderAmoto, well, if that's the problem, i'll have to stick with another distro as we bought this hd recently.
[01:34] <n3urogod> can someone please tell me how I can map an smb mount in file browser to a mount point?
[01:34] <Xecuter> InvaderAmoto: XecutEEEr :P so i don't miss what you're saying... yes i have 3 atm, one SATA and two PATA
[01:35] <InvaderAmoto> larson9999: i wouldn't assume that thats the problem. it could be one of a million things.
[01:35] <Matt12> bodsda, it says no such thing...pressing f2 does nothing.
[01:35] <UbuntuDude> Does anybody know how to get Cinelerra or Kino or anything working properly for making youtube videos?  I'm trying to import some quicktime format vids.  Kino converts them to DV format which speeds them up and removes the sound.  I can sort of get things working in Cinelerra (which only wants to let me to export with audio and video combined in qt format) but when I export the sound is bad, the colours are inverted, and the v
[01:35] <UbuntuDude> ideo is choppy.  I saw I was missing some quicktime libraries but that didn't seem to help when I installed them and tried again.  I tried to install kdenlive but it says it can't find drkonqi, which i can't seem to find anywhere either, so I am currently installing the kde desktop.
[01:35] <larson9999> InvaderAmoto, the troubling thing to me is slack arch and sabayon don't have the issue.  ubuntu that different?
 ON https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto read the part with [Backup, Repairing and Reinstalling GRUB] i have used commandline! It worked best
[01:35] <InvaderAmoto> Xecuter: what? and your BIOS might be set to boot from the wrong drive
[01:36] <Matt12> m_newton...I can't get on my computer at all... I'm using another computer
[01:36] <Matt12> I can't load ubuntu or windows
[01:36] <Bodsda> Matt12, well you have to work out how to get to your system bios before you can boot a live cd -- (or remove all hd's then boot to cd then plug drives back in (while machine is running))
[01:36] <InvaderAmoto> larson9999: i dont know anything about either of those distros. so, idk
[01:36] <AcornAcorn> can anyone help me work out why i can't get vlc to work?
[01:36] <Xecuter> InvaderAmoto: hmm maybe so... i'll try that... i'll be back if its not working...
 you have the live cd right, use it to boot in a live ubuntu hardy
 In laptops you have to press f12 to get into live cd
[01:37] <Matt12> m_newton I put the disc in, I turned the computer on, I still get a grub error.
[01:37] <UbuntuDude> (hmm, nobody noticed . . . I'll try the forums)
[01:37] <QueRicoMate> m_newton, i have a laptop and i only had to configure setup to do so
 Ya, did you boot from the cd, or the hard drive
[01:38] <Bodsda> m_newton, i think his prob is his bios isnt set to boot the cd first, it boots hd and gets an error, he needs to change boot device order in bios
[01:38] <sabry> hi all i installed kopete in ubuntu and it asked for jasper for video chat... i install that too.. will it affect the video quality of the skype?
[01:39] <QueRicoMate> Matt12, while starting the computer press the key that says SETUP or del or sup and ull get into setupin boot options set it up to start from cdrom
[01:39] <Zaiden> Is there a way to install 32 bit hardy without loosing all the data I have in this 64 bit installation?
[01:39] <D3RGPS31> back again =D is there a tutorial on changing the text of ubuntu on bootup, when the splash is removed (like Fedora Core)?
 Ok, so the problem lies in the bios, is this a new comuter, or old??
[01:39] <Matt12> m_newton it's a month old
[01:40] <Matt12> um hold on let me type what I just did
 Then when you start your computer, do you see the logo of the company as you boot before getting the grub error?
[01:40] <Bodsda> sabry, shouldnt do anything to skype afaik
[01:40] <InvaderAmoto> Zaiden: you can transfer important files to an external drive. or if you install the 32 bit in a different place than the 64 (without formatting the 64) the installer asks if you would like to import settings from the 64 bit one.
[01:40] <tj83> <---- thinks esc usually kill oem splash screens
[01:41] <AcornAcorn> can anyone help me work out why i can't get vlc to work?
[01:41] <Matt12> yes I pressed the "think vantage" button...I have three options 1. resume normal startup 2. enter the BIOS setup util and 3. choose temp startup device
[01:41] <sabry> i m unable to wifi... can any on ehelp me
[01:41] <sabry> ????
[01:41] <BobPenguin> Hello guys. When I start my system I can run Jedi Academy with no prob. If I run it after I have used finale 2007 I get no sound on Jedi Academy, and I get a message telling mi Jedi Academy can find no sound card in my system. How can I fix this? Is there some way I can "restart" sound on wine?
[01:41] <Bodsda> Matt12, choose number 2
[01:41] <Flannel> BobPenguin: you might try asking in #winehq
[01:42] <BobPenguin> thanks Flannel!
[01:42] <tj83> m_newton... wouldnt 3 be better if he usually leaves media in the drive?
[01:42] <InvaderAmoto> AcornAcorn: do you have any info on what happens or what your doing to try to get it to work?
[01:42] <tj83> always ticks me off.
 Ok, try option 3. with the linux cd in the drive. and select cd
 yes, if you arent good with bios i guess.
[01:42] <Matt12> okay I'm in BIOS Setup Util...now what. 1 config 2 date/time 3 security 4 startup 5 restart 6 hdd diagnostics bodsda m_newton
[01:43] <Bodsda> Matt12, 4
 now select 4
[01:43] <Matt12> 1 boot 2 network
[01:43] <tj83> m_newton... :)  its only opinion of course.. and easier to get someone else to do.... Oh... I fully get all bios settings... Just if i have bootable media in the drive i dont want it to boot it unless i tell it to boot it... ya know?
[01:43] <Bodsda> Matt12, 1
[01:43] <Zaiden> InvaderAmoto: Ah, ok. I guess I'll just completely reinstall. Thank you for the help though.
[01:43] <tj83> he went with door # 2 anyways :)
[01:43] <AcornAcorn> InvaderAmoto: It can play some videos but there is no sound, and it doesn't work when i play mp3 or flac, that's what i've tested. on the videolan channel someone looked at the output and said my installation must be broken, but it's the same even after i purge vlc and reinstall. supposedly the problem is : "[00000292] main input error: no suitable access module for `file'"
 ya
 make the dc option first
 make the dcd option first
 make the cd option first (srry)
[01:45] <Matt12> would that be "Atapi CD0:MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-850?
 yup
[01:45] <InvaderAmoto> AcornAcorn: hmmm. if they cant figure it out then it must be a pretty tough problem to fix. have you considered just using totem, or some other video player?
[01:45] <eshear> php4-cli on hardy heron - is this available by default? do i have to do anyting?
 remember what it is on right now though, you will have to set it back to that later
[01:46] <AcornAcorn> InvaderAmoto: I've only had one person trying to help me out, so i suppose there could still be hope
[01:46] <Matt12> OK so my order is 1: ATAPI CD 2: USB FDD 3 USB CD 4 ATA HDD0 etc.
[01:46] <AcornAcorn> InvaderAmoto: I'm thinking there might be some dependency not installed or i uninstalled something i shouldnt have
 After that, chose the option that says save and exit, there might be one that says save as default, chose whichever you want
[01:46] <suRs> how do i add application icon to my bar?
[01:47] <InvaderAmoto> AcornAcorn: well ubuntu is smart enough to tell you when a dependency isnt installed.
[01:47] <InvaderAmoto> AcornAcorn: i would just use some other video player. I dont like totem, but i hear mplayer is good.
[01:47] <AcornAcorn> InvaderAmoto: can't understand why it wouldn't work then
[01:48] <InvaderAmoto> AcornAcorn: well thats why your here...: )
[01:48] <shadowxp> Has anyone used WebCT's chat with Ubuntu on Firefox 2/3 ?
[01:48] <Matt12> :( same thing...GRUB loading, please wait...Error 17
 ok, cool as long as cd is first, save and exit, make sure you have the cd in though. Next you will boot from hardy when you restart (hopefully)
[01:48] <taurusivy> hi, ub6.06 complains : no GLIBC2.4 found when im running some app. is it right to download and compile from src?
[01:48] <nante> hi all... when I type smb://common, i can't see the shared folder... when i type smb://common/movies, I get a login/password screen and i can access the shared files
[01:49] <nante> i can't see the shared folder list***
 any luck?
[01:49] <AcornAcorn> InvaderAmoto: hehe, yeah, i thought ubuntu was supposed to "just work" :(
[01:49] <Matt12> m_newton I get the same error :(
[01:49] <Gin> what is the command to kill all process containing the name "firefox"?
[01:49] <suRs> how do i add application to my bar?
[01:49] <tj83> matt12 try door # 3 this time.. and watch the drive's status light to make sure it is attpempting to access the drive and if still no success... re-burn the disk or try on another machine.
[01:49] <AcornAcorn> InvaderAmoto: is there not something i could do to try and fix it, like purging and reinstalling from terminal or something?
[01:49] <mythomaniac> Does it mean that if I'm able to run sudo that I have admin privileges?
[01:49] <InvaderAmoto> AcornAcorn: yah it is... but as ubuntu users its our obligation to report bugs like that.
 try again, the settings may require 1 reboot. atleast for my bios passwd they did. Basically try again
[01:50] <nante> another question, if I remove firefox 3 from synaptic, will it remove all its files like the sql lite files
[01:50] <InvaderAmoto> AcornAcorn: yah you could try reinstalling it. that might help
[01:51] <Matt12> the cd is spinning I can hear it...but all I get is Eroor 17 everytime
[01:51] <Terabyte> hey, how do I change the listening port on openssh, i have tried the ssh_config file, I uncommented Port 22, and changed it to the port I wanted, and after saving it, and restarting it, the changes don't seem to have taken effect
 there is a pritty good clip of this on the web. check out http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~cscie1/play/podcasts/2006/votw/1/Changing_PC_BIOS_Settings.flv
[01:51] <TaRDy> exit
[01:51] <TaRDy> oops
[01:51] <taurusivy> hi, ub6.06(with glibc 2.3.6) complains no GLIBC2.4 found, when im running some app. is it safe to download the latest version of libc6  and compile from src?
[01:52] <InvaderAmoto> Matt12: it might be that the disk you are using is corrupt. try the live disk with another computer if you have access to one.
[01:52] <Uplink> i need help loading my sound module please
[01:52] <tj83> m_newton... your set on him going through the bios... why not just choose the drive once?
[01:52] <taurusivy> or the only thing i can do is upgrade to ub 7 or 8
[01:52] <Zaiden> Would there be a disadvantage of some sort for using a AMD 64 Dual core on 32 bit hardy?
 i dont think his computer had that option
[01:52] <Starnestommy> taurusivy: install libc6 and libc6-dev in the package manager
[01:53] <tj83> matt12.... choose # 3.... watch the status light... make sure you see some activity... if so and it doesnt work you likely have a bad disk.
[01:53] <tj83> if no light.. then you must do something else
[01:53] <Beererde> hi. when i try to playback an mp3 with rhythmbox, it hangs approx. 10 seconds then starts playback. this also happens with flash when playing youtube videos...
[01:53] <InvaderAmoto> taurusivy: i think its "safe" to, but idk if the program you want installed would recognize it. also if its updated in the repos you wouldn't get it.
[01:53] <dolphin> how would i test to see how fast my wireless connection is??  i'm trying to stream video over this 802.11g (supposedly) chip... but it's not working like my other laptop
[01:53] <tj83> m_newton he said 3 was choose temporary boot device
 that would be the live cd
[01:54] <Malik_> i think i crahed my graphic card with the ubuntu cube and other effects
[01:54] <Matt12> okay I'm going to test the live cd
[01:54] <InvaderAmoto> Zaiden: the only thing i notice different between 64 bit and 32 bit is a slight (VERY slight) speed difference
[01:54] <Malik_> can some1 help me out
[01:54] <m_newton> <Matt12 srry wrong post 2 wrong person
[01:54] <InvaderAmoto> Zaiden: and that a few apps arent 64 bit
[01:54] <Terabyte> oh wait, found it, supposed to edit sshD <<<< not ssh_config
[01:54] <tj83> m_newton.. I do agree with your logic... and from what he has said.. your suggestions "should" have worked...
[01:55] <ttroll> hello people
[01:55] <Malik_> can some1 help me out my ubuntu linux crashed
[01:55] <eshear> I'm trying to install php4-cli on hardy heron and it's failing miserably. Is this available by default? do i have to do anyting? This always worked on Debian...
[01:55] <ttroll> O.o
 whats your status now?
[01:55] <tj83> matt12... get back to the 1.2.3 choices and list them again for us plz
[01:56] <ryanakca> How can I copy a logical volume?
[01:56] <InvaderAmoto> Malik_: what happened? did the whole thing lock up? can you move the mouse? give us more info
[01:56] <InvaderAmoto> ryanakca: you could use gparted (gnome partition editor in add/remove)
[01:56] <Matt12> tj83 1 resume normal setup 2 enter BIOS Setup Util 3 Choose a temp startup device
[01:57] <osmosis> is there anyway to reboot my machine if I am getting this?  -bash: /sbin/reboot: Input/output error
[01:57] <tj83> choose 3 it will ask you which device
[01:57] <Swish> why not man "lvmove"
[01:57] <tj83> give us your new choices
[01:57] <Beererde> hi. when i try to playback an mp3 with rhythmbox, it hangs approx. 10 seconds then starts playback. this also happens with flash when playing youtube videos... any suggestions?
 these are the options you see when you first boot right... 1. resume normal startup 2. enter the BIOS setup util and 3. choose temp startup device
[01:57] <Uplink> i need help loading my sound module
[01:57] <Matt12> 1 ATAPI CD0:MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-85 2. ATA HDD0: 3 PCI LAN
[01:58] <tj83> matt12 what after you pick # 3?
[01:58] <tj83> choose 1
[01:58] <tj83> does the disk light come on?
[01:58] <Matt12> tj83 okay, I'm testing the live cd on another computer right now
[01:58] <tj83> Matt12.. um.. ya it would help if the disk was in the drive of the notebook :)
[01:59] <nano_> somebody please tell me what command will tell me who is using a certain device.
[01:59] <Ashfire908> Can someone point me to a guide for setting up a domain for a network?
[01:59] <nano_> im going to lose my freaking mind
[02:00] <Crazy_Mofo> can I get some help getting my eternal monitor to function?
[02:00] <Uplink> i need help loading my sound module
  1 ATAPI CD0:MATSHITADVD-RAM is the one you want! Try this when you computer boots push f12 repeated ly till you get a menu that gives you thoes 1 ATAPI CD0:MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-85 2. ATA HDD0: 3 PCI LAN options. Chose the cd one and then viola
 if that doesnot work try with f10, or escape
[02:00] <tj83> m_newton... its not f12 for all computers.. each manufacture is different.
[02:01] <Matt12> It appears that the Live cd is defective
[02:01] <Matt12> so I guess I'll try burning another one
[02:01] <Draconicus> Hey there. I seem to have forgotten where individual packages are located. I want to grab the XMMS packages from Gutsy. I've got no love for XMMS2.
[02:01] <InvaderAmoto> Matt12: burn it at low speeds (like 4X) to ensure that it doesnt corrupt again
[02:01] <heartsblood> how do you list the groups a user is part of?
[02:01] <trakinas> need help with xvidcap. Im getting 1% of success on frame rate... has anyone used it before?
[02:01] <tj83> Matt12 did you fully go though the last steps option 3 then option 1 with the disc in?
[02:02] <trakinas> heartsblood: groups user
  you might have to dwnload it again. Dont use torrents, get it from the official site
[02:02] <Uplink> i need help loading my sound module
[02:02] <Matt12> tj83, yes...the live cd doesnt work from another computer either though
 First try burning again
[02:02] <Matt12> so I'm going to try a new one
[02:02] <trakinas> !sound Uplink
[02:02] <ubot3> Factoid sound uplink not found
[02:03] <trakinas> ops
[02:03] <ryanakca> InvaderAmoto: thanks
[02:03] <Uplink> :/
[02:03] <STSX> Matt12: Be sure to check the md5 sum on it to make sure it isn't corrupted (use "md5sum")....
[02:03] <Uplink> i need the command eto load the sound modul
[02:03] <tj83> matt12.... IC... yes.. m_newton is right... use the official site as well as heed InvaderAmoto's advice on low speed
[02:03] <trakinas> cant remember how to use the bot... hehe
[02:03] <InvaderAmoto> ryanakca: np
[02:03] <heartsblood> ok I've changed a file to 770 but users other than owner can not cd to the directory.  what could cause this?
[02:03] <trakinas> Uplink: modprobe nameofthemodule
[02:03] <Uplink> TY
[02:03] <nano_> does anybody know that command that will tell you who is using a certain device....in case, the device is not being unmounted, because it is busy
[02:03] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, you need to change the perms for the folder.
[02:03] <heartsblood> to?
[02:04] <Uplink> trakinas, how do i get the module of my audio?
[02:04] <Matt12> tj83 m_newton...should the new live cd work...should I just install ubuntu again? and leave it...or is their a grub repair/remove app on it?
[02:04] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, read "man chmod"
[02:04] <heartsblood> 770 should allow the owner and group members entrance.  I don't want 'others' using ls on the directory
[02:04] <trakinas> Uplink: that, i cannot help...
[02:04] <STSX> nano_: You can use "lsof" for that, but I'm not sure of the exact options to use for your case. Just check the man page.
[02:04] <heartsblood> Ashfire908, I know how to use the command
[02:05] <nano_> STSX thx
[02:05] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, are the other users in the group that the folder is set to?
[02:05] <Ashfire908> Can someone point me to a guide for setting up a domain for a network?
[02:05] <tj83> matt12.. unless you mad a back up of you grub settings.. its probably your only choice
[02:05] <heartsblood> yes
 There is a way to repair grub, but it is kind of easy, but if you want to download all the other stuff again just reinstall
[02:05] <nano_> STSX: there was actually another command that i  was in reference to
[02:05] <nano_> don't you hate it when you cant think of a very important command when u need it most!!
[02:05] <osmosis> kernel: Cannot read proc file system: 9 - Bad file descriptor.   how do I remount proc ?
[02:05] <heartsblood> do I need to log out the users for that to take effect?
 There is a way to repair grub, but it is kind of medium level (correction)
[02:06] <STSX> nano_: Always more than one way to skin a cat in linux... :)
[02:06] <nano_> STSX: lol, yeah
[02:06] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, no.
[02:06] <tj83> Matt12 do you dual boot? and does it give you the "press esc for menu" message?
[02:06] <Matt12> m_newton...fair enough so I should just install ubuntu as usual again...and things should be fine
[02:06] <trakinas> has anyone used xvidcap before?
[02:06] <Matt12> um the computer I have doesn't have an ISO program...is there any free program/trial program
[02:07] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, perms always take immediate effect.
[02:07] <heartsblood> http://pastebin.com/m6bcf55d3
[02:07] <tj83> Matt12 what did you do prior to the issue to possibly "cause" the error?
[02:07] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, are the folders that contain the folder set to the right group/perms?
[02:07] <heartsblood> you can see what i'm looking at there
 yes, but you will need to get all updates and apps again, also you will have a clean harddisk, all data will be gone...
[02:07] <tj83> Matt12 look for ISOburn on google
[02:07] <Matt12> tj83 I unassigned the partition through windows
[02:07] <heartsblood> the user is clearly part of the group but I can't cd to the directory
[02:07] <trakinas> Matt12: InfraRecorder (if you are on windows)
[02:07] <Matt12> m_newton...what about all my windows files.
[02:08] <tj83> you killed which partition? windows or ubuntu or what?
[02:08] <tj83> Matt12 which partition?
[02:08] <Matt12> tj83 I killed the ubuntu partition, which killed the grub loader which now won't let me start up
 yup, only if you installed on the whole disk though
[02:08] <tj83> yea... ubuntu is gone! matt12
 have you partitioned your harddisk?
[02:09] <tj83> matt12... reinstall ubuntu is your only option.
[02:09] <Matt12> it is partitioned  yes
[02:09] <taurusivy> Starnestommy: but libc6 in dapper's repo is 2.3.6, the app needs at least 2.4..
[02:09] <Starnestommy> taurusivy: you might need to upgrade ubuntu
[02:09] <tj83> m_newton... sounds like he killed the ubuntu partition.. hence the error..
[02:10] <Packerfan> can someone help with ATI drivers for a 9250 pci card
[02:10] <eegore> the NVidia drivers are now broken in the .17 kernel
 ya, i did that once... only to reformat and lose all files, now i have (literaly cracked my vista recovery cd and am liveing a happy life as a ubuntu/fedora user)
[02:12] <Kakura> tinin: yea.. so I don't think I can find one...
 srry once again wrong comment 2 wrong guy
[02:12] <Matt12> m_newton I enjoyed ubuntu, but I really never used it...I was just hoping to reclaim the 15 gigs i alotted it
[02:12] <tj83> Ha... your trying to repair the windows MBR then... wow.
[02:12] <heartsblood> Ashfire908, you were wrong sir.  I had to log each user out and log back in for the changes to take effect.
[02:13] <heartsblood> Ashfire908, it works fine now
[02:13] <tj83> Matt12 SHAME! on you for trying to ditch ubuntu.
[02:13] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, what?
[02:13] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, how are you accessing the folder?
[02:13] <Terabyte> Hey, I want to update my computer remotley, Obviously when I'm sitting infront of it I can run "software updates" but otherwise how can I do the same thing over the command line, I basically want the whole "update, yes yes yes accept next to all" but done over the command line. Is this possible?
[02:14] <heartsblood> I'm using nautilus, the others will most likely be using a bash term from putty
[02:14] <tj83> Matt12... it should be the exact opposite... I dumped my perfectly legal copy of vista for ubuntu.
[02:14] <Packerfan> how can I check what version of xorg I have?
[02:14] <Matt12> tj83 I'm not knowledgable enough to get the most out of ubuntu
[02:14] <Ashfire908> Terabyte, sshd and "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[02:14] <houmala> I think I found the answer to getting ubuntu to windows people. WWhen I tried to give someone a disk I made for them to try ubuntu I would get a so so reaction. I ordered 25 factory ubuntu disk from the ubuntu webite and they went like i was handing out 5 dollar bills ?????
[02:14] <Kakura> Hey anyone, I've been trying to make my options for choosing a higher screen resolution higher than the 800x600 I am given. I've trien almost anything, does anyone have any input on what I should do
[02:14] <Matt12> tj83 I can zip my way around windows easily, but with Ubuntu I was just doing basic stuff.
[02:15] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, you shouldn't need to logout to do it.
[02:15] <Terabyte> thanks ashfire
[02:15] <tj83> Matt12... yes you are!.... it takes devotion... and time and simply removing windows from your environment... if you force yourself to live without windows for a month.. you'll never go back
 oh, so then you should... oh wait repairing grub wont deleat it
[02:15] <nano_> STSX: found it......the command i was looking for was fuser
[02:15] <Terabyte> matt12 what are you trying to do?
[02:15] <Matt12> now I don't care..Ill keep ubuntu if it will give me my computer back
[02:15] <heartsblood> Ashfire908, I'm just telling it that is what fixed it.  In fact i'm sitting on the last user account (has not been logged out yet) and he can not enter the folder
[02:15] <Matt12> terabyte I tried to reclaim my ubuntu partition for windows...which killed the grub loader and now I can't get on the computer
[02:16] <tj83> Matt12... grub and all things on that partition are now gone.. and now you have a "damaged" MBR. (master boot record) on your windows partition.
[02:16] <Ashfire908> Terabyte, sshd will get you a SSH daemon which will get you a shell with a secure connection and apt-get is the package manager.
[02:16] <Terabyte> thanks ashfire908
[02:16] <Matt12> tj83 what are you saying man...am I cooked?
[02:16] <heartsblood> Ashfire908, after a quick relog he can now cd to the directory just fine.
[02:16] <Terabyte> matt12 what did you use? I use partition magic for 'reclaiming space'
[02:16] <Ashfire908> heartsblood, whatever.
[02:16] <trakinas> why xvidcap sucks with me? =(
[02:16] <STSX> nano_: Great you figured it out--I'll have to remember that command in the future.
[02:16] <Matt12> i did just unassigned it I was trying to format it but vista wasn't letting me
[02:17] <nano_> STSX: its a lifesaver  really!
[02:17] <zcat[1]> I've got a uniden GPS unit here, with a USB interface.. in windows it comes up as a USB serial port and I can dump the GPS data into hyperterm.. But I can't seem to get Ubuntu to recognise it at all; it shows up in lsusb but that's about all... any suggestions?
[02:17] <tj83> Matt12... its not about keeping ubuntu to get your stinking windows back!. its about letting loose of windows!... no thats not what i am saying... what i am saying is if you wanted to try ubuntu and dual windows with it... would have been smart to take precautionary measure by backing up your mbr.
[02:17] <Kakura> Hey anyone, I've been trying to make my options for choosing a higher screen resolution higher than the 800x600 I am given. I've trien almost anything, does anyone have any input on what I should do?
[02:18] <Packerfan> What installation of ubuntu would you reccomend for a old Pentium 2, I would assume xubuntu or is there another distro that may work better?
[02:18] <Xecuter> ok i'm back... again... but now i dont think grub is my problem; i've done the whole 'root (hd2,0)' and soforth, but its still not starting... booting hangs just befor grub is supposed to start. It's an SATA-disk, any clues?
[02:18] <Terabyte> matt12, have you tried looking up "reinstall vista bootloader" in google?
 i have to go, easy fix is installing windows, i dont know much now cuz i have deleated my vista, i think deleating the grub might work.
[02:18] <tj83> Matt12... but... yes.. re-installing will essentially "patch" your mbr into a usable state again.. although i seriously hesitate to admit this to you as need some guidance to get started into linux.
[02:18] <STSX> nano_: So before I did into its manpage, just out of curiosity, what are the options you are feeding it? What does your command look  like?
[02:18] <jack_spratt> Kakura: dyu know why you're limited to 800x600?
[02:18] <Terabyte> matt12 see: http://www.vistax64.com/vista-general/26152-reinstalling-vista-bootloader.html
[02:18] <Matt12> oh word...wellI did give ubuntu a couple weeks, I installed it almost as soon as I got the new computer
[02:18] <zcat[1]> Packerfan: pupply linux.. even xubuntu isn't all that light
[02:18] <nano_> fuser -v /device
[02:18] <Matt12> thanks m_newton
[02:18] <Terabyte> ok in this case he blew it with xp, but it amounts to the same thing
[02:18] <nano_> of file
[02:18] <jack_spratt> Packerfan: theres lots of more efficient distros,
[02:18] <LimCore> is there some good program to catalog ones pr0n
[02:18] <Packerfan> ok
[02:18] <m_newton> bye to all ... for now
[02:18] <Packerfan> any ideas where to start looking?
[02:19] <Kakura> jack_spratt: I have no idea, but I guess maybe cause my monitor is old, SiS graphics card, or there is some error, or I'm doing something wrong
[02:19] <jack_spratt> Packerfan: tinyme springs to mind, but there are others that are better still for old machines
[02:19] <Packerfan> also its cd drive is dead, should I just plug in one of my drives temporarily for it
[02:19] <Terabyte> matt12 obviously you'll need your vista dvd;)
[02:19] <jack_spratt> Kakura: has the monitor displayed higher before? has the chipset?
[02:19] <tj83> Matt12... I completely understand... I tried many linux distros and gave up multiple times..
[02:19] <Packerfan> or is there a way to wirelessly install using the floppy and a wifi network
[02:19] <Matt12> terabyte, the only thing is my computer came preloaded with vista and now extra dvd
[02:19] <Packerfan> I could probably try usb boot too
[02:19] <Matt12> no*
[02:19] <Packerfan> I have a fast usb stick
[02:19] <AcornAcorn> argh, totem doesn't work either! my computer is a failure :(
[02:19] <blingwadman> org
[02:19] <tj83> Matt12 its hard to get "over the hump" with linux
[02:20] <Terabyte> your pc didn't come with any dvd backup?
[02:20] <Terabyte> of vista*
[02:20] <Packerfan> Matt12, I have spent 6 months putting in an hour or two a week trying to get my drivers to work
[02:20] <Packerfan> im going back to windows quick
[02:20] <Packerfan> im lagging to much here
[02:20] <zcat[1]> my computer came preloaded with 0x00
[02:20] <Xecuter> ok i'm back... again... but now i dont think grub is my problem; i've done the whole 'root (hd2,0)' and soforth, but its still not starting... booting hangs just befor grub is supposed to start. It's an SATA-disk, any clues?
[02:20] <Kakura> jack_spratt: oh yes, Windows had me always higher, and there was even more than my defaulted 1027x768
[02:20] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey when I install fonts do i have log out and log back in for them to be usable in applications?
[02:21] <jack_spratt> Packerfan: there are ways to install without CD, I dont know how to do it with buntu, i can only advise regarding other distros. in windows however you could presumably create a virtual cd drive and then mount an iso you could import from somewhere or download, and then install buntu using wubi
[02:21] <tj83> Matt12... and thats what we are all in here for... is to help you... so you can become one of us and help others too... I am not super experienced either... only been back in linux for a few months... but i "removed" vista.. and love it!
[02:21] <Matt12> packerfan that's the boat I was(am) in. There was a lot of things I wanted to do but I just couldn't figure it out msgboards, chats, tutorials etc...no luck
[02:21] <Sergeant_Pony> I'm all Ubuntu. I even replaced my win2k server with Ubuntu
[02:21] <izm99> when using fglrx, i must boot into recovery mode, reinstall it, and then do a depmod.  I have to do this every time.  anyone have ideas why?
[02:21] <jack_spratt> Kakura: sounds like your using vesa driver or something with limited functionality. either that or there is a vram allocation problem. try and sort out the video driver that your using and test it
[02:22]  * zcat[1] is trying to start some Linux / OOo / GIMP courses through a community training place I've been helping out at
[02:22] <Matt12> but I'll keep Hardy...but things like mp3 player support, dual monitor support, among other things..I just couldn't get working
[02:22] <LimCore> zcat[1]: interesting
[02:22] <Kakura> jack_spratt: well I have a SiS video card, and I'm not sure how to install their drivers in Ubuntu, as they don't make them for any other OS except Windows
[02:22] <zcat[1]> 'cos basically *nobody* teaches anything but MSOffice on MSWindows ..
[02:22] <tj83> Matt12.... Microsoft has brainwashed the general public to do whats "easy". and witht that comes limitations... thats the only way to make serious computing easy... it to limit your options so you never experience the truth...
[02:22] <AcornAcorn> I can't get sound to work with any media player on my ubuntu installation, can anyone help me work out why?
[02:22] <kkathman> Matt12,  dont give up so quickly :)
[02:23] <Terabyte> matt12 take a look at this also, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html
[02:23] <tj83> Matt12.. you jumped the gun... dont get into the deep end right away... its ok to wade the kiddie pool for a little while.
[02:23] <zcat[1]> tj83: you imply that windows is actually easy. My experience it's much harder, it's just that people are used to Windows and Linux is different
[02:23] <Terabyte> matt12, follow that to reinstall grub, booting into vista shouldn't be too hard, sadly I don't have the commands here,.
[02:23] <jack_spratt> Kakura: your kidding! if sis only worked in win i wouldnt be a linux user most likely
[02:24] <Matt12> terabyte thanks, I'll check that out
[02:24] <DaveG|> hey, i'm using a ZTE MF622 wireless modem. I use pppd to connect to the net with it. The problem is that i only get 60 kb/s download, though the device is capable to get up to 4 mbit. it's not the signal as i've tried this in a place with stronger signal and get the same results. can anyone help?
[02:24] <jack_spratt> Kakura: you mean for that chipset only there are win drivers??
[02:24] <tj83> zcat[1] perhaps easy is the wrong word "user-friendly" is more appropriate.
[02:24] <Kakura> jack_spratt: The one I downloaded wouldn't open up
[02:24] <gorio> is ther any website that can i post a image of an error ???
[02:25] <Matt12> I just want the option of keying down to the "indows Longhorn etc." option and hitting enter.
[02:25] <zcat[1]> tj83: the word you're looking for is 'user-familiar' -- because it's been almost universal for years, people just aren't familiar with anything but windows. Ubuntu bug #1
[02:25] <Terabyte> matt12, personally I prefer windows too, but ubuntu just makes remote administration of my 'grans' computer so much easier, and frankly my uni course is based around it, horses for courses, and it's a total pain in the arse to find out your wireless, graphics, wired network drivers don't work.
[02:25] <ubot3> zcat[1]: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 376, column 84
[02:25] <AcornAcorn> I can't get sound to work with any media player on my ubuntu installation, can anyone help me work out why?
[02:25] <Uplink> i need help lease, im getting NO sound at all
[02:26] <AaronH> Uplink, did you have sound before?
[02:26] <Matt12> terabyte, I did notice that networking through Hardy was easier than windows
[02:26] <Terabyte> acorn, have you tried turning the mute button off and on again (seriously check the volume level)
[02:26] <langleyo> Uplink: are you using a laptop?
[02:26] <jack_spratt> Kakura: look i dont really know about installing sis vdrivers in buntu. however in other distros its very easy so i assume it is in buntu here, but I cant tell you how. ask the others or forum trawl i guess. alternatively if you have an old video card lieing about use that instead. you can get one for $5 if you like; doesnt have to be good, but its a quick fix
[02:26] <Rob125> Hey, lads/lasses. Ubuntu user for four years seeks laptop recommendation for his girlfriend.
[02:26] <Uplink> YES
[02:26] <TBotNik> Uplink: What is your codec?
[02:26] <tj83> zcat[1] this is coming from many many years of windows experience and less than 1 year of linux experience... and your right... change is hard for people in general... but there has to be motivation and devotion and a will to make change.
[02:26] <zcat[1]> so no help with my usb-serual gps problem :(
[02:26] <Uplink> IXP [ATI IXP], device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97]
[02:26] <Terabyte> matt12, yeah, in 704 it worked perfectly, plug and play, but in 804 it went tits up sat there for a day trying to get it to work
[02:26] <Uplink> TBotNik, IXP [ATI IXP], device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97]
[02:27] <Uplink> modules are in the kernel, no worries
[02:27] <AcornAcorn> Terabyte: volume is fine and i can hear sound on flash vidoes
[02:27] <zcat[1]> Rob125: asus eee? ;)
[02:27] <Terabyte> acornacorn, oh deaar sorry:(
[02:27] <Rob125> zcat[1]: thought about that, but had one for a bit and our fingers are too small
[02:27] <Kakura> jack_spratt: well thanks, do you know of any good cheap ones though? My computer was made around 2004, and I'm sure the parts are older
[02:27] <Rob125> plus have a bigger budget than that.
[02:28] <Kakura> In that case, anyone know about install SiS drivers in Ubuntu?
[02:28] <Malik_> hey can some1 help me i wana get compiz fusion but i hav no internet and its not on the installation cd
[02:28] <tj83> Matt12.... i agree... hardware can be a mess in linux... for instance ... my wireless card didnt work for anything.. it took me 2 weeks to work it out. and now i have made a page on the ubuntu wiki telling eveyone else how to acomplish what took me 2 weeks to do.
[02:28] <TBotNik> Uplink: Did you check to see, Ubuntu docs or Google search, if your codec is in the release kernal?  Mine is not (RealTek AC97 series) so I have to download and install seperate.
[02:28] <Rob125> bbias
[02:28] <zcat[1]> Rob125: A lot of Linuxers seem to like IBM thinkpads ...
[02:28] <Uplink> TBotNik, my sound was working perfect a few hours ago
[02:28] <Malik_> is it possible to get compiz fusion on to ubuntu without internet like download it on another computer and then copy it there
[02:28] <Xecuter> i'm having trouble! grub is not starting if i boot from my sata disk! what can it be?
[02:28] <tj83> Matt12... we are willing to give our time to you... if your willing to give back of course.
[02:28] <dangelo> ola
[02:28] <DaveG|> hey, i'm using a ZTE MF622 wireless modem. I use pppd to connect to the net with it. The problem is that i only get 60 kb/s download, though the device is capable to get up to 4 mbit. it's not the signal as i've tried this in a place with stronger signal and get the same results. can anyone help?
[02:28] <jack_spratt> Kakura: ebay should work if you choose that route. buntu should work tho, if it doesnt, consider trying a different distro
[02:29] <zeeeee> i'm using amarok in ubuntu 8.04.  my keyboard has media keys that work fine with in e.g. rhythmbox (set via system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts), but i can't seem to set them in amarok (configuring in settings > configure global shortcuts).  any hints on how to get media keys to work with amarok?
[02:29] <Matt12> tj83 well, I'm learning a lot about my computer right now, that's for sure
[02:29] <tj83> !realtek
[02:29] <ubot3> some help for recent Realtek chipsets can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[02:29] <zcat[1]> Malik_: possible yes, easy, not always .
[02:29] <dangelo> alguem jah conseguiu instalar wifi atheros num note acer aspire 3050-1458
[02:29] <eegore> bring out your dead
[02:29] <Kakura> jack_spratt: any distro you recommend?
[02:29] <Malik_> can u gimme the link for compiz fusion
[02:29] <tj83> matt12... thats my realtek wi-fi card how to.... look at it.
[02:29] <AaronH> Uplink, did you do "lsof | grep pcm"  and see if anything is holding up your sound card?
[02:29] <langleyo> uplink: for what its worth i had probs with sound which i resolved by downloading new codecs
[02:29] <Xecuter> zeeeee: you are using gnome+
[02:30] <zcat[1]> Malik_: compiz-fusion is preinstalled.. perhaps you're thinking of 3d video drivers or compizconfig-settings-manager ?
[02:30] <Xecuter> ?
[02:30] <zeeeee> Xecuter, yeah using gnome
[02:30] <tj83> Matt12.. when i started facing my problem with the wi-fi i knew zero linux... not a single thing.
[02:30] <Uplink> AaronH, im getting no response from that command
[02:30] <Malik_> yea compiz-fig thing
[02:30] <Malik_> i need that
[02:30] <zeeeee> Xecuter, er, not sure what's gnome+
[02:30] <TBotNik> Uplink: Yup, you have the AC97,  Ah the it was working now it's not.  Q==> Did the autoupdater run?  If so and if there was a codec update for base config, yours is gone now and you must re-install.  Had that happen more than once, so wrote bash script to re-install, rather than all the manual crap.
[02:30] <dangelo> hi somebody know how to install a atheros on acer 3050-1458?
[02:30] <Xecuter> zeeeee: okey, go to the script handler in amarok, and install the script Gnome media keys, that should do it ;)
[02:31] <Xecuter> zeeeee: thats your desktop environment
[02:31] <Uplink> TBotNik, running the update manager right now... 17 updates
[02:31] <zh> 有用汉语的么
[02:31] <AaronH> Uplink, did you try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[02:31] <zcat[1]> Malik_: figure out what packages had to be downloaded, copy them from one computer to the other (they're in /etc/apt/cache somewhere) then use synaptic, it will see them there and not need/try to download them
[02:31] <Uplink> AaronH, let me try that
[02:31] <DaveG|> hey, i'm using a ZTE MF622 wireless modem. I use pppd to connect to the net with it. The problem is that i only get 60 kb/s download, though the device is capable to get up to 4 mbit. it's not the signal as i've tried this in a place with stronger signal and get the same results. can anyone help?
[02:31] <Pici> !zh | zh
[02:31] <zeeeee> Xecuter, where do i find that script?
[02:31] <ubot3> zh: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[02:31] <TBotNik> Uplink: then re-install your AC97 codec after it finishes the updates.
[02:31] <Malik_> i only need 1 package
[02:31] <tj83> matt12... may i PM you... alot of offtopic going on in here... but i would like a few more min with you.
[02:32] <Malik_> compizfusion-package-manager
[02:32] <zh> think
[02:32] <Rob125> Anyone have a laptop recommendation?
[02:32] <zeeeee> Xecuter, oh i see it
[02:32] <zcat[1]> Malik_: figure out what package had to be downloaded, copy it..
[02:32] <Malik_> compiz-configsetting-manager i mean
[02:32] <STSX> dangelo: If you want wireless help, best way to start is to give your wireless chipset, which you can find by doing "sudo lshw -C network" in a terminal.
[02:32] <tj83> my apologizes to the rest of the room
[02:32] <Xecuter> zeeeee: in amarok... in one of the menus there is a thing called script handler or something... don't know what it is in englis
[02:32] <Malik_> i can't find a link to that to download
[02:32] <Uplink> AaronH, ok, ALSA restarted
[02:32] <Matt12> tj83 yes
[02:32] <Xecuter> zeeeee: youll find it there...
[02:32] <zeeeee> Xecuter, beautiful, thanks!
[02:32] <jimcooncat> DaveG|: you got another computer on your lan you can test speed from, not your uplink to the internet?
[02:32] <Uplink> TBotNik, ok ty
[02:32] <AaronH> Uplink, now test your sound to see if it works... play an mp3 or something
[02:32] <Xecuter> zeeeee: np ;(
[02:33] <Xecuter> zeeeee: woops, ;)
[02:33] <zcat[1]> Malik_: somewhere in /etc/apt/cache/ .. just copy it to the same place on the other computer.. you'll need sudo to write there though
[02:33] <DaveG|> jimcooncat, it's a wireless modem. i have no lan
[02:33] <Malik_> o so thats already on the computer to
[02:33] <Uplink> AaronH, nope :(
[02:33] <Malik_> ubuuntu  i mean
[02:33] <jimcooncat> DaveG|: ok. mine has four ports that's why I asked.
[02:34] <DaveG|> jimcooncat, i don't mean a router
[02:34] <Uplink> I had the SAME problem last time... i had to modprobe the modules... but this time i did and nothing happens... i think im doing something wrong or modprobing the wrong module
[02:34] <Xecuter> can anyone help me? grub is not starting if i boot from my sata disk! what can it be?
[02:34] <AaronH> Uplink, and you have checked your volume and made sure your sound is not muted?
[02:34] <DaveG|> jimcooncat, i mean an actual wireless usb modem that connects to 3G
[02:34] <TBotNik> Uplink: I do not know how to get the attention of the kernal builder, but by now the AC97 codec should be in the kernal releases.  You figure out how to get their attention and a bunch of us will put in our two cents, on it so they'll make it a priority for next release.  Oh don't forget to advertise it here and on forums if you get their attention, so we can all chime in.
[02:34] <zcat[1]> Malik_: yeah, it will be in the apt cache on the computer you already installed it on.. put it in the same palce on the other one and then 'install' it the same way, it will see it already has the package and won't need to download it.
[02:34] <jimcooncat> DaveG|: I would call the provider and have them test -- or is that not an option?
[02:35] <zcat[1]> I've got a uniden GPS unit here, with a USB interface.. in windows it comes up as a USB serial port and I can dump the GPS data into hyperterm.. But I can't seem to get Ubuntu to recognise it at all; it shows up in lsusb but that's about all... any suggestions?
[02:35] <Malik_> wat i only hav one ubuntu computer?
[02:35] <gorio> is ther anyone here with Toshiba laptop ?
[02:35] <zcat[1]> .. can I even run the windows usb drivers in a wrapper?
[02:35] <DaveG|> jimcooncat, well the device isn't supported for linux, but it does run on it. so they may just give me some crap about "oh y'ure using an unsupported os"
[02:35] <Malik_> and thats the only one with internet
[02:35] <AaronH> AC97 drivers work great here
[02:36] <dazza> hi, is it possible to create a 3TB filesystem with ext3 with the standard ubuntu desktop kernel?
[02:36] <Uplink> YAY!
[02:36] <Uplink> WORKS NOW :D
[02:36] <AaronH> what did you have to do Uplink?
[02:36] <jimcooncat> DaveG|: not if they plug in their own laptop into it to test
[02:36] <TBotNik> Uplink: Good great listening!!
[02:36] <Uplink> modprobe snd-ac97
[02:36] <Junkie> hello all, i could use some help with changing my video driver, how do i change to my intel 915 driver?
[02:36] <Uplink> lol
[02:36] <Uplink> the codec
[02:37] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. nobody here ever has answers for the questions I ask :(
[02:37] <Uplink> hey guys, thank you for all your help! :D
[02:37] <LimCore> zcat[1]: a bit bussy
[02:37] <Sergeant_Pony> gorio me
[02:37] <LimCore> zcat[1]: get a better usb stick, all I have work fine r/w
[02:37] <Junkie> need some help changing my video driver
[02:37] <AcornAcorn> how do you end a process?
[02:37] <Junkie> please
[02:37] <zcat[1]> LimCore: wt? Did you read the question? Uniden GPS unit..
[02:37] <dazza> i've never had a usb stick that doesn't work
[02:37] <TBotNik> zcat[1]: Hey they sometime need time to think about it.  Was going to ask what do you think you need a driver or just tty to the box?
[02:37] <LimCore> Junkie: what card do you have
[02:37] <Starnestommy> AcornAcorn: in a terminal: kill pid-of-process
[02:37] <gorio> Sergeant_Pony, could i open pvt with you ?
[02:38] <Junkie> LimCore: laptop, need to enable 915 chipset
[02:38] <LimCore> zcat[1]: right, I ment somethinh else
[02:38] <Sergeant_Pony> gorio ok
[02:38] <LimCore> Junkie: i810 driver
[02:38] <Starnestommy> AcornAcorn: or use System > Administration > System Monitor
[02:38] <Junkie> LimCore: no, 915 for the hack...
[02:38] <Junkie> 1200x900
[02:38] <zcat[1]> TBotNik: well, other USB-serial devices show up as /dev/ttyUSB0 or some such.. this one just isn't recognised at all.. the USB-serial chip is all inside the GPS no nothing I can do about that
[02:39] <TBotNik> zcat[1]: Did you go through a manual "mount" of the device?
[02:39] <LimCore> Junkie: the driver for i915 is called i810
[02:39] <zcat[1]> TBotNik: How? It's USB serial not USB Storage...
[02:39] <Junkie> LimCore: need to use 915 because my res needs to be 1200x900, and the driver is specially made for my notebook, its 915 check the package manager
[02:40] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"
[02:40] <TBotNik> zcat[1]: Remember if Linux does not pre-recognize the device, then a manual mount is in order.
[02:40] <Palomides> how can I play a DVD from an .iso file?
[02:40] <LimCore> Junkie: ok so its something new. I dont know then
[02:40] <Junkie> LimCore: what is the cmd to get to changing it?
[02:40] <Junkie> LimCore: thats all i need
[02:40] <LimCore> Palomides: try running it in vlc or mplayer ;  if not, then you can setup a loop - losetup
[02:40] <fiXXXerMet> Palomides: Yes - mount the iso file and then open the directory (with say VLC player)
[02:41] <zcat[1]> TBotNik: it's supposed to show up as a serial port and when you open the port it's dumping GPS data... it's not a USB Mass-storage device, it's a USB serial port.
[02:41] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"??
[02:41] <LimCore> Junkie: you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf for example
[02:41] <Palomides> ty
[02:41] <LimCore> fiXXXerMet: how do you mount the iso?
[02:41] <halloween_> Palomides: mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point
[02:41] <Junkie> LimCore: is it dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:41] <TBotNik> zcat[1]: I think the command you need in {mount /dev/ttyUSB0 /mnt/newdevname} which should then let you tty to the device
[02:41] <halloween_> That is how you mount an iso.
[02:41] <Junkie> LimCore: because that doesnt bring up the option
[02:41] <fiXXXerMet> LimCore: mount -o loop file.iso /path/to/mount/to
[02:41] <zcat[1]> WTF?!!
[02:42] <LimCore> Junkie: not sure... I just edited it by hand in text editor actually
[02:42] <zcat[1]> TBotNik: I know how to mount a USB drive.. It's not a USB drive.
[02:42] <Junkie> LimCore: thanks
[02:42] <Junkie> can anyone help me change video drivers?
[02:42] <mythomaniac> can anyone help me get firestarter to autostart after reboot, i'm using ubuntu 8.04?
[02:43] <AaronH> Junkie, what drivers do you want to change to?
[02:43] <stpere_> zcat[1]: I think that's why he said "ttyUSB..."
[02:43] <zcat[1]> TBotNik: in other operating systems it appears (with the supplied drivers) asa serial port.. like a modem or such, I can use a terminal program and it's sending lines of numbers that are the GPS data...
[02:43] <TBotNik> zcat[1]: Doesn't your machine also show your com and serial port in the mount?  Mine does!
[02:44] <Dumonde> how to back OO localization after latest uodates ?
[02:44] <AaronH> mythomaniac, System>Preferences>Sessions       and put firestarter in there to make it start up when you log in to gnome
[02:44] <glitsj16> mythomaniac: you don't actually need firestarter running for the firewall to run, but in case you want to, just add "firestarter" command to your autostart section
[02:44] <zcat[1]> OK, no more answers from anybody who doesn't know the difference between a hard drive and a tty please..
[02:45] <halloween_> Firestarter is just a frontend GUI for iptables, right?
[02:45] <glitsj16> correct
[02:45] <AaronH> yes halloween_
[02:45] <mythomaniac> AaronH: yes i have that, and even changed sudoers file to allow it without password but not working...
[02:46] <mythomaniac> glitsj16: as i said to AaronH , yes i have that and even changed sudoers file to allow it without password but not working...
[02:46] <zcat[1]> TBotNik: yes mine does too.. if I plug in a supported usb serial device it automatically brings up a new /dev/tty* device for it.. if I plug in a mass storage device it gives me a /dev/sd* device ... this one doesn't do anything except appear in dmesg / lsusb
[02:46] <Sergeant_Pony> !sound
[02:46] <ubot3> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:46] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"??
[02:46] <joshual> how do i use emerald themes ?
[02:46] <[RICE]> With the emerald wm
[02:47] <zcat[1]> and I am thinking perhaps there's some way of associating the USB device number with a USB serial driver so I can try one chipset at a time and see if any work...
[02:47] <joshual> [RICE]: how do I switch to emerald from metacity?
[02:47] <Junkie> AaronH: i want to go to 915 driver on my notebook
[02:47] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"?
[02:48] <glitsj16> joshual: run "emerald --replace &" from a terminal
[02:48] <joshual> thx glitsj16 will that be permanent?
[02:48] <zcat[1]> glitsj16: I'd suggest alt-F2 instead, then it won't get terminated as soon as you close the terminal again
[02:49] <mythomaniac> glitsj16 & AaronH, i see that ubuntu has changed many things from debian standard ;(
[02:49] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"
[02:49] <quittt> boa noite
[02:49] <zcat[1]> afk brb
[02:49] <quittt> good night!
[02:49] <quittt> !doomsday
[02:49] <ubot3> Factoid doomsday not found
[02:49] <TBotNik> zcat[1]: Ok then use cmd [mount /dev/ttyUSB0 /tty/sessname] for ttysession or [mount /dev/ttyUSB0 /mnt/newdevname] for other.  Try both and see if one works.  If not that's about the end of my knowledge.  You can also pose your Q on ##linux, where some gurus there might know the answer.
[02:49] <quittt> !deng
[02:49] <glitsj16> joshual: no, how do you autostart compiz right now ? change it there as well
[02:49] <ubot3> Factoid deng not found
[02:50] <STSX> !repeat | Kakura
[02:50] <ubot3> Kakura: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:50] <stpere_> zcat[1]: install minicom
[02:50] <stpere_> zcat[1]: I think it's what you were looking for
[02:50] <ice109> i can't switch my keyboard layout under xfce, i add us international and hit close and it doesn't affect anything
[02:50] <Manda_Chuva> Ae galera eu to tentando atualizar meu ubuntu a partir do cd alguem poderia me passar alguma link de como eu possa fazer isso?
[02:50] <ice109> can someone help
[02:50] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"?
[02:50] <quittt> where can I find Doomsday HQ package?
[02:50] <quittt> .deb
[02:50] <quittt> ?
[02:50] <zcat[1]> stpere_: And then what.. conect to a tty that doesn't exist?
[02:50] <TBotNik> zcat[1]: After all your's is a generic Linux Q and not specific to just Ubuntu.
[02:51] <zcat[1]> will try on ##linux when I get back..
[02:51] <tgillespie_> hi, ive got a problem with dbus, i think its crashing, does anyone know where the dbus log files are? running hardy
[02:51] <AaronH> mythomaniac, once you set your iptables up with firestarter you dont need to run it evertime you reboot
[02:51] <Manda_Chuva> someone could help me? i want to upgrade my ubuntu from cdrom but i dont know how to do it
[02:51] <Manda_Chuva> i got 7.10 and i want upgrade to 8.04
[02:51] <AaronH> have you checked to see if your iptables are still configured after you reboot, mythomaniac?
[02:52] <Starnestommy> Manda_Chuva: you might need the alternate cd for that
[02:52] <Rob125> Anyone have a recommendation for a laptop for my girlfriend?
[02:52] <glitsj16> ice109: change it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. that used to work, not sure how the newer Xorg in hardy reacts to that though
[02:52] <mythomaniac> AaronH: i realize that, but since this on a laptop i need to change the iptables from time to time, and yes iptables still works...
[02:52] <Lynet> Manda_Chuva: You need the alternate CD, and you need to add the CD as a software source in System - Software Sources.
[02:52] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"
[02:52] <ice109> glitsj16 i'm in 7.1
[02:52] <ice109> 0
[02:52] <Manda_Chuva> Lynet, so i cant do it with the common cd?
[02:52] <mythomaniac> AaronH: i just need to figure out why sudoer's file is not like debian's way
[02:53] <glitsj16> ice109: than changing your /etc/X11/xorg (the keyboard section) will work
[02:53] <AaronH> mythomaniac, it should be
[02:53] <ice109> glitsj16 wgere can i find a list of all the language codes, or do you know what it is for us international
[02:53] <grubdub> !grub
[02:53] <ubot3> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:53] <Lynet> Manda_Chuva: As far as I have been told, no. Never tried myself but everyone I have asked say you need the alternate cd.
[02:54] <grubdub> time to fix me grub
[02:54] <Manda_Chuva> Lynet,  tks dude
[02:54] <Lynet> !ubotu
[02:54] <ubot3> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[02:54] <imaginativeone> where can I learn about k9copy?
[02:54] <grubdub> oh btw, how do I fix grub when I have two partitions? (both with ubuntu here)
[02:54] <xocite> ?
[02:54] <mythomaniac> AaronH: it's not, for i have added (just as one for debian) <username> ALL=(ALL) ALL, and also <username> ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter - and that don't work
[02:55] <glitsj16> ice109: no i have lots of bookmarks to keep the stress on my one braincell minimal lol, google for the keyboard codes in Xorg perhaps ?
[02:55] <vstromdek> who
[02:55] <STSX> grubdub: You need to be more specific with your problem if you want help. :)
[02:55] <Dumonde> what's mean "ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.SAA7134.pcm.front.0:CARD=1'" in file ~/.xsession-errors ?
[02:55] <grubdub> STSX: I installed ubuntu32 and ubuntu64.
[02:56] <grubdub> I want to know how I can fix grub so that I can load either at will upon startup
[02:56] <n3urogod> zcat[1], dmesg should tell you where it was mounted and you should then be able to use a serial terminal program such as minicom
[02:56] <grubdub> (the grub files are both in differing partitions, atm I'm using livedvd here :))
[02:56] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"
[02:57] <salimfadhley> I'm trying to clone a hard dis to an identical hard disk using the DD utility - the trouble is it goes so slowly.
[02:57] <salimfadhley> Can anybody suggest the correct block-size for reading a hard disk
[02:57] <salimfadhley> or does it not matter?
[02:57] <STSX> grubdub: OK, so you installed ubuntu32 and ubuntu64 on different partitions, and installed grub on both of them too?
[02:57] <salimfadhley> For example if I sat the block-size to 1Mb
[02:57] <Junkie> AaronH: thanks, i got it...
[02:57] <grubdub> STSX: yeah, I sorta did.
[02:57] <n3urogod> salimfadhley, it would be much quicker to replicate the partition schema and then just copy the files to each partition
[02:57] <grubdub> but I'm not sure if I pointed it to the right partitions
[02:58] <salimfadhley> I really want an exact duplicate
[02:58] <STSX> grubdub: OK, so what do you get when you try to boot up?
[02:58] <n3urogod> salimfadhley, then expect it to take a long time
[02:58] <salimfadhley> These are 2 very fast hard disks,
[02:58] <salimfadhley> On a new SATA thingy
[02:58] <grubdub> ubuntu sees my first boot-up drive(also the first sata port and I'm not using any ide devices here) as sdb
[02:58] <salimfadhley> And I'm going to leave it overnight
[02:58] <halloween_> STSX: He wants a normal dual boot config through GRUB. You need to edit the grub.conf file, grubdub.
[02:58] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"
[02:59] <grubdub> so I installed the bootloader to sdb and sdb2 or something
[02:59] <salimfadhley> And not all partitions are Linux, and therefore not simply copyable
[02:59] <grubdub> I'm not sure if I did it right
[02:59] <n3urogod> salimfadhley, I expect that they are also large then, which still means its going to take ages on a block level
[02:59] <STSX> halloween_: You mean menu.lst?
[02:59] <salimfadhley> yes, but can I not adjust the block-size in the DD command
[02:59] <edenroz> ragazzi ho un problemino su kubuntu:il cubo rotante ha solo 2 facce
[02:59] <grubdub> halloween_: at the moment there's two partitions where menu.lst is present
[02:59] <grubdub> Which one should I edit, and how do I edit it in a way where things don't mess up
[02:59] <grubdub> (or do I have to reinstall ubuntu again :(
[03:00] <hendrixski> grubdub, always make a backup of stuff that you edit :-)
[03:00] <salimfadhley> for example, is there any harm to setting bs=1Mb
[03:00] <Jangari> can someone give me a quick explanation of what the 's' in directory modes refers to?
[03:00] <Starnestommy> Jangari: s = sticky
[03:00] <Kakura> Can anyone help me with fixing my screen resolution, something with install the drivers to this:" VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"
[03:00] <Jangari> yes, what does that mean, Starnestommy?
[03:01] <STSX> grubdub: You first need to figure out which partition has control of the MBR, so you can then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and get both partitions listed on bootup.
[03:01] <tj83> Kakura... a look around google shows that there isnt any support for your card at this time... atleast from what i have found
[03:01] <glitsj16> Jangari: that's a window type, sticky = available on all your virtual dekstops or workspaces
[03:01] <grubdub> STSX that's where I'm confused. I'm not sure which one is
[03:01] <halloween_> AFAIK, the master drive is the only one that needs to be correct. It's been a while since I've done this. Looking some things up now.
[03:01] <grubdub> I know which drive is in control
[03:01] <grubdub> but not which partition
[03:01] <Starnestommy> Jangari: files in that directory can only be deleted or moved by the directory's owner, root, or the file's owber
[03:01] <Starnestommy> *owner
[03:01] <grubdub> and the partitions are all on the same drive anyway
[03:01] <Starnestommy> Jangari: it's explained in man chmod"
[03:02] <grubdub> Its just that I'm not very sure how to fix it.
[03:02] <fiXXXerMet> lspci shows a "03:03.0 Ethernet controller: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 08)"   but it isn't showing up as eth1..  Guessing that my server doesn't have a driver for which.  Which driver should I use?  And do I Just do "modprobe driver" ?
[03:02] <Jangari> oh, another question, my menu.lst appears to have three entries for 8.04, for some reason. What's the command to fix the menu.lst
[03:02] <Jangari> ?
[03:02] <STSX> grubdub: I know there's an easy way to determine that from the Grub shell, but I don't know the commands. So what I would do is just edit the menu.lst on one of your partitions, and if it changes the boot menu, you know that's the one. Otherwise change the other.
[03:02] <Jangari> thanks Starnestommy, that about answers my question
[03:03] <Starnestommy> Jangari: you need to manually edit it
[03:03] <grubdub> STSX: y'know the real problem here is determining which partition I installed the amd64 variant to >:D
[03:03] <Jangari> i'm still concerned about how the other two entries for my installation actually occurred
[03:03] <glitsj16> Jangari: sorry for the confusion, read your sticky question in the wrong context
[03:03] <Jangari> no worries, glitsj16
[03:03] <Starnestommy> Jangari: it could be an installer bug
[03:04] <slyf> Hey, I ws wondering if it was possible to make it so it doesnt run, resume (boots very fast when it does this) or w/e, when its booting, cauz it messes up my ndiswrapper
[03:04] <Starnestommy> slyf: make it so that what doesn't run?
[03:05] <ruben> alguien de veracruz????
[03:05] <grubdub> brb
[03:05] <slyf> Starnestommy: I am not sure, but the kernel like, resumes a session or something, making it boot nice and fast, however, ndiswrapper doesnt work when it does that
[03:05] <Starnestommy> slyf: don't hibernate
[03:06] <slyf> Starnestommy: I didnt
[03:06] <slyf> I rebooted
[03:06] <slyf> and it still did it
[03:06] <AlgorithmicContr> srsly don't hibernate
[03:06] <slyf> I have to hard reboot to make it dont do it
[03:06] <ganjast> i resmooked
[03:06] <tinin> is it possible to turn the screen image 90 degrees?
[03:06] <ganjast> yeah turn the monitor 90°
[03:06] <tinin> sure
[03:06] <ice109> does anyone know the xkb code for us international keyboard
[03:06] <tinin> but I'm lazy
[03:06] <AlgorithmicContr> ganjast: Yeah, I was about to say
[03:06] <Jangari> !paste
[03:06] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[03:07] <tmapj> could anyone tell me if its possible to see offline messages  in Pidgin ?
[03:07] <Lynet> fiXXXerMet: If I'm not mistaken, that is one of the "ye olde Digital 21x4x-compatible cards". Which would mean the "tulip" ethernet driver.
[03:07] <Malik_> can some1 help me
[03:07] <tinin> no
[03:07] <Starnestommy> slyf: Malik_ with what?
[03:07] <Starnestommy> er, whoops.
[03:07] <tj83> sylf look at system-preferences-sessions-sessionoptions is that what your looking for?
[03:07] <Malik_> i jus downloaded compizconfig-seetings -manager
[03:07] <ice109> does anyone know the keyboard code for us international keyboard
[03:07] <ganjast> yeah you can use offline messages in pigdung
[03:07] <Malik_> caus ei donot hav internet on ubuntu
[03:07] <MikeAU> help with webcam please
[03:07] <Starnestommy> slyf: I'm not sure what to do
[03:07] <ganjast> webcam sucks
[03:07] <Malik_> so i downloaded thta package and transfered it to ubuntu
[03:07] <tmapj> no i mean can you vies offline messages in Pidgen
[03:07] <Malik_> now how to i install it
[03:07] <ganjast> get a bt848 capable card and a old videocam and get it work
[03:07] <tj83> slyf  look at system-preferences-sessions-sessionoptions is that what your looking for?
[03:07] <tmapj> Pidgin*
[03:07] <Starnestommy> MikeAU: we need a more specific question
[03:08] <MikeAU> sure
[03:08] <Jangari> if anyone has a good reason as to why the same boot entries are listed three times in my menu.lst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16104/ then I'm listening
[03:08] <tmapj> view*
[03:08] <Starnestommy> Malik_: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:08] <peternix> I don't think that ubuntu has properly detected my 3d videocard
[03:08] <slyf> tj83: nope, its something the initrd or nernel does
[03:08] <peternix> But I am not sure
[03:08] <tmapj> no i mean can you view offline messages in Pidgin?????
[03:08] <ganjast> i got an old vhs-c videocam from 1997 beats any webcam in quality
[03:08] <Malik_> i think i tired that lemme try it again
[03:08] <tinin> MikeAU google your webcam + ubuntu
[03:08] <peternix> Is there a hardware manager that I can use to check what driver it has loaded for the card?
[03:08] <Malik_> should i extract the fiel first
[03:08] <tj83> slyf... i dont know then. sorry
[03:08] <ganjast> those webcams are crap
[03:08] <peternix> All the games I run run very slowly
[03:08] <peternix> But I have a 3d accelerator
[03:08] <Jangari> oh, just noticed, -14, -16, -17
[03:09] <mythomaniac> STSX: is it true that because I have sudo privileges that I'm already part of the admin group?
[03:09] <tj83> anyone have problems with or a solution for opengl flicker under compiz? for instance google earth?
[03:09] <slyf> I will reboot and see _exactly_ what the kernel says when it does it
[03:09] <tinin> Jangari unistall old kernnels, and save space
[03:09] <Jalathan> tj83: yes
[03:09] <ganjast> a 20 dollar bt848 card and a cheap cam from radioshack beats anything
[03:09] <Jalathan> tj83: you using ATi or nVidia?
[03:09] <ganjast> those webcams doesn't have open source drivers
[03:09] <MikeAU> when I enter tail -f /var/log/messages I can see the webcam details including the driver which is an SN9C10[12]  which looks right to me.
[03:10] <MikeAU> The last line of the output reads as follows
[03:10] <tj83> Jalathan... I can use google earth by using metacity --replace... but would like to maintain compiz... ATI Radeon x1200
[03:10] <Starnestommy> mythomaniac: if there's an entry for the admin group in /etc/sudoers, yes.  By default, the admin group is in there
[03:10] <Jangari> i don't think the kernals are still there, just the menu.lst entries, but is there a way to know for sure?
[03:10] <ganjast> usb crap
[03:10] <glitsj16> peternix: what card is in the list outputted from running the command "lspci" ?
[03:10] <STSX> mythomaniac: If that is how sudoers is set up, but you can check your groups with "groups <user>"
[03:10] <Starnestommy> Jangari: ls /boot
[03:10] <MikeAU> kernel: [ 3015.341664] usb 2-2: Optional device control through 'sysfs' interface disabled
[03:10] <peternix> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[03:11] <Jalathan> tj83: yeah, i've had to turn off compiz myself when using anything that uses OpenGL. (ATi Radeon XPress 1100)
[03:11] <tinin> Jangari use synaptic and search, for sure thy are there, with its related modules, just leave the most recent one
[03:11] <MikeAU> so I assume the device is disabled hence wont work but I do not know what sysfs is Ii assume a config file somewhere)
[03:11] <STSX> Jangari: When you update kernels, the older ones are not uninstalled by default--they stick around. :)
[03:11] <Jalathan> tj83: think it might be a driver issue
[03:11] <Jangari> ah, i see, thanks Starnestommy. Shall I just go ahead and remove everything that's either -14 or -16?
[03:11] <Jangari> That's irritating
[03:12] <tj83> jalathan... good to know its a common issue... but no solution yet huh?
[03:12] <Starnestommy> Jangari: remove the packages for those old kernels
[03:12] <peternix> I assume that driver is generic
[03:12] <glitsj16> peternix: and that's the card u wish to use for 3d accelleration ? I'm afraid i've no experience with Intel cards
[03:12] <MikeAU> am I close to the answer yet?
[03:12] <peternix> glitsj16: is that the card or the driver?
[03:12] <glitsj16> peternix: look slike it yes
[03:12] <tempest> could someone help me for a moment  I want to use the pci nvidia card and not the onboard card, but xorg.conf shows the onboard as configured
[03:12] <mythomaniac> STSX: yes user is in admin, so why can I not get sudo /usr/sbin/firestarter to work after putting in <username> ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter ?
[03:12] <peternix> is lspci gonna show me the card info or the driver?
[03:12] <Starnestommy> peternix: card info
[03:12] <glitsj16> peternix: that's the card
[03:12] <Jalathan> tj83: 'fraid i don't know about the possible solution; both the envy and the standard give the flicker
[03:13] <tj83> tempest, you should disable on-board in bios..
[03:13] <tempest> tj83 i have
[03:13] <STSX> mythomaniac: You checked that's the correct path to firestarter?
[03:13] <Jangari> Starnestommy: using synaptic, i guess
[03:13] <mythomaniac> STSX: good point...
[03:13] <tj83> tempest.... have you tried backing up xorg.conf and changing the bus ID and the driver to your pci card?
[03:14] <wormz> Hey. My new laptop is a ntel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T9300 with 4G of ram, to use all that ram I need to run 64 bit linux or use pae kernel (which never worked). What does anyone recommend???
[03:14] <PorkSoda> People, Any one know why I mount an sd crad from a win mobile device I can not create files? I've set file perms to 755 to no avail.
[03:14] <PorkSoda> Could it be a formatting thing?
[03:14] <Ahadiel> wormz, I'd recommend 64-bit.
[03:14] <tempest> tj83 no i havenot because I'm not certain how to do that,  ive only used kubuntu a month
[03:15] <Malik_> it didn't work
[03:15] <wormz> Ahadiel: Though I assume the Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T9300 is 32 bit, does that cause a problem?
[03:15] <Malik_> can some1 help me out here
[03:15] <mythomaniac> STSX: firestarter is located in /usr/sbin/ and also /usr/share... so...
[03:15] <peternix> glitsj16: it's integrated on the motherboard
[03:15] <Ahadiel> wormz, The Core 2 Duo can support both 64 and 32-bit OSes.
[03:15] <Flannel> wormz: No, it's 64bit.  Well, it can be either, I suppoes that's a better way to put it
[03:15] <Lynet> tempest: You probably need to lspci or hwinfo or look through the xorg log to find the bus-ID of the add-on card. Then add that busid to the device section of the xorg.conf file.
[03:15] <wormz> Ow, sweet action
[03:15] <DIL> i need help using chroot if i boot with a knoppix cd how dow i access my drives
[03:15] <peternix> the motherboard manual claims it is ... "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 integrated"
[03:15] <STSX> mythomaniac: type "which firestarter" and what's the output?
[03:15] <Jalathan> wormz: just check to see if what you need to run does so under 64 bit
[03:16] <tj83> tempest ... save a copy of xorg.conf as xorg.conf.old so you can revert back if x doesnt boot... you will have to use a terminal editor like nano in the event it doesnt boot back... use "lspci" to get the bus ID.. you would have to find out what driver for your card.. id dont know... I use ATI
[03:16] <peternix> seems that ubuntu has not detected it properly?
[03:16] <jadewolf> if you update the /etc/modules file, do you have to reboot to have system see the changes?
[03:16] <wormz> Jalathan: In terms of Ubuntu stuff you mean? (I usually run Fedora which I had no problems using 64bit)
[03:16] <mythomaniac> STSX: it states: /usr/sbin/firestarter
[03:16] <MikeAU> can anyone help decode this for me please  [ 3015.341664] usb 2-2: Optional device control through 'sysfs' interface disabled
[03:16] <MikeAU> How do I change it to enabled
[03:16] <Jalathan> wormz: not all of the packages the last i checked have a 64bit counterpart
[03:16] <tempest> tj83 i have the drivers,  do i need to update the configured device ?
[03:17] <Uplink> i have a quick question, is it ok if i install an OS over a partition that has bad sectors?
[03:17] <fiXXXerMet> Lynet: I tried "modprobe tulip" but I still can't get eth1
[03:17] <glitsj16> peternix: i'm unfamilair with intel cards i'm afraid, don't know whether hardy has any other drivers for your card sorry
[03:17] <STSX> mythomaniac: Then that should be the one you want... if you type "sudo -k" and then "sudo firestarter", does it ask for a password or not?
[03:17] <tj83> yes... just replace "Driver value" with your nvidia driver name and put the bus id from the lspci output in its value
[03:17] <DIL> Uplink: not a good idea
[03:18] <codecaine> I got net connection like vmware working in virtualbox :P
[03:18] <Uplink> DIL, what if i format the NTFS partition?
[03:18] <Lynet> fiXXXerMet: Anything in dmesg or /var/log/messages relating to ethernet?
[03:18] <codecaine> don't have to use nat
[03:18] <Jalathan> Uplink: period...
[03:18] <mythomaniac> STSX: it asks for a password
[03:18] <tj83> tempest.. if you do it quickly.. pastebin your xorg.conf and lspci out put and i will edit and pastebin it back
[03:18] <MikeAU> ﻿can anyone help decode this for me please  [ 3015.341664] usb 2-2: Optional device control through 'sysfs' interface disabled      How do I change it to enabled
[03:18] <Xecuter> mythomaniac, yes thats when you enter your user password
[03:19] <STSX> mythomaniac: OK, so your entry in sudoers is definitely not working, we just confirmed that.
[03:19] <tempest> tj83 give me a moment
[03:19] <Uplink> then how im i gonna supposed to fix the bad sectors on my NTFS partition?
[03:19] <tj83> tempest... the driver name is "nvidia" correct?
[03:19] <DIL> Uplink: you can do what you want but if your data is valuable to you get a new drive they are very reasobale now
[03:19] <Jalathan> Uplink: however, i believe that there is a possible workaround with marking those sectors as being bad so that the HDD doesn't use them
[03:19] <mythomaniac> STSX: want me to use pastbin and post it?
[03:19] <slyf> Ok, i looked into it, for some reason ndiswrapper sometimes, doesnt work randomly, like, 1/10 or so boots
[03:20] <Jalathan> Uplink: DIL has the better option though, unless you ABSOLUTELY need this HDD
[03:20] <STSX> mythomaniac: sure.
[03:20] <fiXXXerMet> Lynet: I have "[   64.830021] tulip: 0000:03:03.0: I/O region (0x0@0x0) too small, aborting" in dmesg, but other than that, nothing (after doing modprobe tulip)
[03:20] <Uplink> its a notebook HDD... how can i clone it?
[03:20] <ZachThibeau> freenode.com
[03:20] <ZachThibeau> irc.freenode.com
[03:21] <ice109> ok brb
[03:21] <DJ_Cranky> Uplink by another notebook HDD of the same size, put it in a usb/esata/firewire enclosure?
[03:21] <Jalathan> Uplink: to a USB drive, or via a USB adapter to a desktop
[03:21] <slyf> Any reason why ndiswrapper doesnt work some boots?  Like 1/10 times
[03:21] <Uplink> ty guys! any program to clone my HDD?
[03:21] <Jangari> not sure what package i should be looking for in synaptic to remove obsolete kernels, any clues?
[03:21] <AaronH> Uplink, dd command will clone it
[03:22] <DJ_Cranky> slyf try downloading a newer driver and re-wrapping it if there is one
[03:22] <Uplink> HDD = 120 GB = dual booted with XP and Ubuntu
[03:22] <tempest> tj83   http://paste.ubuntu.com/16106/  and   http://paste.ubuntu.com/16108/
[03:22] <DJ_Cranky> slyf and because the whole point of ndiswrapper is just a workaround, im afraid sometimes it just doesnt work
[03:22] <MikeAU> hello can anyone help with a webcam and sysfs problem
[03:22] <dga> hi. after installing the restricted driver for my ati card, i'm unable to suspend or hibernate. everytime i try, it goes to a black terminal and says something about bad EIP value and just stops working. any ideas?
[03:22] <tj83> tempest... brb
[03:22] <tempest> ok tj83
[03:23] <ASchweitzer> dga are you running a laptop?
[03:23] <dga> ASchweitzer: yes
[03:23] <ASchweitzer> dga: make/model?
[03:23] <dga> ASchweitzer: Dell Inspiron 1501
[03:23] <Raider1> Hrm, ok, this question may or may not be best suited here .. Essentially, I am writing something that accepts TELNET connections as the means of communicating with users .. I've been looking at the telnetd sources to figure out how to turn on and off local echo on the client systems at will, but can't seem to find where it does it .. Is anyone here familiar with telnetd ?
[03:24] <fiXXXerMet> Lynet: Am I supposed to do anything after I modprobe the driver?
[03:24] <DIL> Uplink: ping or partimage
[03:24] <Lynet> fiXXXerMet: Do you also see a warning about an "irq not found"?
[03:24] <fiXXXerMet> where?
[03:24] <Raider1> And yes, I've read all the RFCs, apparently either I'm misinterpreting them, or they are missing some info :P
[03:25] <Flannel> Raider1: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:25] <mythomaniac> STSX: here it is: http://pastebin.com/m2d8d7756 it should be noted that <username> is really my username, not <username> ;)
[03:25] <Raider1> Ahh, thanks
[03:25] <DIL> Uplink: if you defrag the xp partition it may mark those bad sectors and not use them - not sure what fsck would do on the linux side
[03:25] <dga> ASchweitzer: the problem goes away when i disable onboard lan control and wireless control in my bios, but then i have no network.
[03:25] <fiXXXerMet> Lynet: not in dmesg or messages, no
[03:25] <agus> hi
[03:25] <ASchweitzer> dga: check http://www.ubuntu1501.com/ it says hypernate works with a certain bios version and driver compination. theres a chunk on it about 3/4 down the page
[03:26] <mythomaniac> STSX: err i'm not using <username>, but my real user name in the real sudoer file...
[03:26] <tj83> tempest i'm in PM
[03:26] <Uplink> DIL, chkdsk gives up too fast... it said "not enough space to fix bad sectors"
[03:26] <slyf> DJ_Cranky: Thanks, there is a newer version, I was fairly outdated, I hope it works
[03:26] <dga> ASchweitzer: thanks i'll have a look
[03:26] <STSX> mythomaniac: you have "/usr/bin/firestarter" instead of "/usr/sbin/firstarter"-- wasn't the program in sbin?
[03:26] <agus> i have a problem with Nvidia drivers installation
[03:26] <agus> could any one give me a hand?
[03:26] <mythomaniac> STSX: oh o way!
[03:26] <ASchweitzer> dga: good luck.
[03:27] <Lynet> fiXXXerMet: Hmm, not sure what's going on. From the message it sounds like the driver finds the card but the card isn't properly initialized or something. and according to google the tulip driver should be the right one for that card.
[03:27] <agus> ?
[03:27] <Gaming4JC> hey all
[03:27] <Gaming4JC> :)
[03:27] <mythomaniac> STSX: yes it was in sbin, let me reboot and see if it works now - man now i feel like a nub...
[03:27] <fiXXXerMet> Lynet: Aye.  Maybe I'll buy another card.
[03:27] <fiXXXerMet> :(
[03:27] <STSX> mythomaniac: Dont reboot!!!
[03:27] <Gaming4JC> would you know if an internal Lucent Venus Chip 56k Hardware Modem would work on Ubuntu?
[03:27] <Gaming4JC> ? :)
[03:27] <mythomaniac> STSX: ?
[03:28] <DIL> Uplink: ping or partimage download the cds if it goes bad you can always restore it if it crashes
[03:28] <mai_> thers's two linux os in two hard drivese,how can I mount sdb6 to the linux os in sda as "/home"?
[03:28] <Lynet> fiXXXerMet: Shot in the dark - reboot, enter bios and play around with irq settings for the card.
[03:28] <STSX> mythomaniac: Just do "sudo -k" and then "sudo firestarter" and test it first....
[03:28] <mythomaniac> STSX: k
[03:28] <Jalathan> Gaming4JC: http://www.linmodems.org/
[03:28] <agus> excuse i have a little problem with nvidia driver installation , I think its the xorg.conf file
[03:28] <mythomaniac> STSX: yes it worked!
[03:29] <fiXXXerMet> Alright Lynet - thanks for the help
[03:29] <STSX> mythomaniac: OK you should be good to go then.
[03:29] <Uplink> DIL, it takes me about 10 minutes to logg in windows on the bad sectors NTFS partition
[03:29] <agus> cause my X never start , always go to recovery mode or something like that
[03:29] <Jangari> is it a good idea to keep the previous kernel and delete all before that?
[03:29] <mythomaniac> STSX: thanks sir!
[03:29] <kterry> I have a very weird issue where MP3s randomly stop working until I reboot my machine.
[03:29] <Jangari> or should i keep only the current kernel
[03:29] <Gurgeh> mai_ you may do it manually with a sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /directoryyouselect or add a line on /etc/fstab to have it done automatically
[03:29] <STSX> mythomaniac: Your welcome. :)
[03:29] <Jalathan> Gaming4JC: though you might have better luck getting the drivers for a PCTel modem working smoothly
[03:29] <Onyx> GyacheE improved is an awesome application.  Why is it not in the Ubuntu repository?
[03:29] <Xecuter> how big should a /boot-partition be?
[03:30] <Gaming4JC> Jalathan: Your saying I would need drivers for it too a ? (which no longer exit)
[03:30] <Starnestommy> Onyx: because nobody has submitted a package for it
[03:30] <DIL> Uplink: try defragging - i would not ignore the signs - drives do go bad
[03:30] <Gaming4JC> *'hardware modem'
[03:30] <fiXXXerMet> Xecuter: I always get away with 128 MB
[03:30] <Gaming4JC> *exist
[03:30] <Uplink> DIL, lol i did defraged but problem wasnt fixed :(
[03:30] <Xecuter> fiXXXerMet, thanks ;)
[03:30] <fiXXXerMet> Xecuter: That might be more than enough, but I know it's not not enough
[03:30] <Gaming4JC> I thought hardware modems were supposed to work on Linux
[03:30] <Lynet> Xecuter: 1-500MB, depending on how many old/backup kernels you want to keep.
[03:30] <Lynet> Xecuter: 100-500MB, depending on how many old/backup kernels you want to keep.
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC All true hardware modems require NO drivers
[03:31] <Xecuter> Lynet, okey
[03:31] <amorphous_> i cant get hardy to boot from live cd, anyone know how i can get to the error messages? it just hangs after the 'loading kernel' window finishes :( Please help -- i've tried noapic & pci=noacpi, but no joy. could anyone possibly offer any suggestions?
[03:31] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: Is the Lucent Venus Chip 56k Hardware Modem a true 'hardware modem', some people were trying to tell me it was... :( ??
[03:31] <Jalathan> Gaming4JC: <.<;; sry, i'm used to soft modems
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> amorphous_ Can you hit ctrl F1 and get a prompt.. or is it crtl-alt?
[03:32] <amorphous_> am trying to install from usbstick (so many probs with cd's) and am close, but no joy :(
[03:32] <pwang> hi, is anyone here using hardy-proposed repository getting a weird openoffice.org update that can't be downloaded?
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC I would need to check. but anything lucent is questionable
[03:32] <amorphous_> Jack_Sparrow, no... no joy... sorry Jack_Sparrow
[03:32] <MikeAU> ﻿can anyone help decode this for me please  [ 3015.341664] usb 2-2: Optional device control through 'sysfs' interface disabled
[03:32] <MikeAU> How do I change it to enabled
[03:32] <daves111> updates won't load - just freezes; can someone help?
[03:33] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, I'm just wondering if I am going to get ripped off if I buy it online. :-/ If you can check please do. :)
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> daves111 What does your sources.list look like
[03:33] <Xecuter> when copying (cp) theres and -a option that keeps the ownerships and such, is there an equal option when moving? (mv)
[03:33] <Lynet> Xecuter: That's really all /boot is used for. grub (which is really tiny) and kernel / initial ramdisk.
[03:33] <matt444> where are the logs for the INIT daemons located?
[03:33] <matt444> one of mine is failing at startup
[03:33] <amorphous_> We bought 5 Dell OptiPlex's a year or so ago. This was possibly the worst move made for a long time!!
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC I take it you are still trying to get an internal and not an external like we recommended
[03:33] <amorphous_> I will think a few times before buying a dell machine again
[03:34] <mai_> mount:wrong  fs  type  ,bad  option,bad  superblock  on  /dev/sdb6                        missing  codepage  or  other  error             In  some  cases  iseful  info  is  found  in  syslog  -try               dmesg  |  tail  or  so
[03:34] <DIL> 270s have bad power supplies
[03:34] <pwang> hi, is anyone here using hardy-proposed repository getting a weird openoffice.org update that can't be downloaded?
[03:34] <mai_> whats the problem?
[03:34] <SwedeMike> Xecuter: privs and ownership is always preserved when moving, that's the default.
[03:34] <daves111> sources.list ??
[03:34] <Flannel> pwang: don't use -proposed
[03:34] <Xecuter> SwedeMike, thanks ;)
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> amorphous_ I can agree with that.. I have one here that I may be lucky enough to sell off tonight
[03:34] <amorphous_> constant probs. If anyone is thinking of buying one, Don't. The optiplex is  a pig!!
[03:34] <pwang> why, Flannel?
[03:34] <Lynet> matt444: Don't remember exactly, somewhere in /var/log. Probably /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/deamon.log
[03:34] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: Yes... but I have a Trendnet in the mail (external). I'm just hoping if I can get this cheap I can have an internal for backup or w/e.
[03:35] <amorphous_> Jack_Sparrow, don't put it near a KVM for god sake
[03:35] <mythomaniac> again, STSX, thank you very much - lol cannot believe it was due to me not fully giving full path to the prog ;)
[03:35] <Flannel> pwang: because it's not stable, and its perfectly normal to have broken depends and such (like you're experiencing)
[03:35] <amorphous_> Jack_Sparrow, do you know how I can get a system onto it?
[03:35] <pwang> okay, but i'll have tons of obsolete packages that way.
[03:36] <kerin> Hey guys, after using wlanconfig to install my PCMCIA ethernet card and rebooting, X won't start.
[03:36] <amorphous_> I need to run live, Jack_Sparrow - the upgrade messed with my LILO and now I can't start it. Livedisks dont work.
[03:36] <kerin> I can WGET, though, so apparently the internet works.
[03:36] <amorphous_> I don't work any more...
[03:36] <kerin> when i try just running X on its own I get "bus error" and nothing else.
[03:36] <amorphous_> :(
[03:36] <daves111> Jack_Sparrow, what do you mean sources.list
[03:36]  * amorphous_ expects sympathy...!
[03:36] <Starnestommy> daves111: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:37] <matt444> Lynet:  hmm, my program is not listed in either of those files
[03:37] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: I bought this external modem. It will work? (I sure hope so!)... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825134002
[03:37] <Drezard> has anyone got a link to setting up a software raid 4 or 5 in linux ubuntu?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> amorphous_ I was able to get Feisty on mine here
[03:37] <Lynet> matt444: /var/log/messages?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> amorphous_ And mine did work with my KVM switch
[03:38] <Gaming4JC> :P
[03:38] <amorphous_> Jack_Sparrow, we have 2 that have to have KVM & they both have to have them removed to get past Bios :/ ---
[03:39] <matt444> Lynet:  not there either
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> daves111 sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[03:39] <deh> Just loaded 8.04, but screen position is way off to the right.  (It's OK with Suse 10.2 10.3, WN 2K, & WN98SE, so unbuntu appears to be the one needing adjustment).
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> deh Push the auto sync button oy your monitor
[03:41] <DIL> picnic
[03:41] <daves111> sources.list shows 3.0 kb software sources list
[03:41] <deh> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks I'll try it.  I'm running in Suse at the moment.
[03:42] <tmapj> Hey guys, I just downloaded a .zip file. How do I install it?
[03:42] <Starnestommy> tmapj: unzip it, then read the readme and install files that come with it
[03:42] <tmapj> Starnestommy, thanks
[03:42] <PCcertified> I noticed on boot I get this message in dmesg, should I be concerned?
[03:42] <PCcertified> [   69.254994] ALSA /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-generic/sound/alsa-driver/pci/via82xx.c:581: codec_read: codec 0 is not valid [0x87e5370]
[03:42] <jordan> hello all
[03:42] <PCcertified> I get the same message 4 times
[03:43] <PCcertified> and yet sound works
[03:43] <YsikY> hello
[03:43] <amorphous_> Jack_Sparrow, you don't know of any other options I could throw at the boot: prompt, do you? ---wiling to try anything. already tried a few threats, but to no avail...
[03:43] <PCcertified> Hi jordan and YsikY
[03:43] <tj83> PCcertified... I too get similar error reports.. no problems here
[03:43] <YsikY> please, anybody can help me
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> amorphous_ noapic acpi=off, pci=irqroute, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, vga=791, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, ide=nodma, nomce, pnpbios=off, xdrvr=vesa, res=800x600, apm=off,pci=noapci, nolapic, all_generic_ide, nolapic, pci=assign-busses, pci=irqpoll, pci=biosirq, pnpbios=off, hpet=disable
[03:44] <PCcertified> het tj83
[03:44] <Starnestommy> !ask | YsikY
[03:44] <ubot3> YsikY: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:44] <jordan> whats ur problem YsikY
[03:44] <YsikY> How install KDE in Ubuntu 7.10
[03:44] <PCcertified> Hey
[03:44] <YsikY> x64
[03:44] <jordan> go to synaptic package manager and look for KDE
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC Dont buy the venus.. the other seems to look ok
[03:44] <peternix> My screen is broken
[03:44] <YsikY> have various
[03:44] <Starnestommy> jordan: install kubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <Starnestommy> er, YsikY
[03:44] <LordFlashy> can I resize my partition without a floppy or cdrom?
[03:44] <Flannel> YsikY: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:44] <peternix> How can I redetect my video card, etc.
[03:45] <YsikY> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <tj83> PCcertified.. hey, i was away editing soneone elses xorg.conf... we will know if i did good or bad soon LOL... or maybe we wont if i did bad :)
[03:45] <YsikY> ?
[03:45] <jordan> YskiY: yes
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> LordFlashy Not the one ubuntu is installed on...
[03:45] <peternix> I reverted the changes I did with xorg.conf
[03:45] <Starnestommy> YsikY: with "sudo" before it
[03:45] <tj83> someone*
[03:45] <peternix> but it is still broken
[03:45] <jordan> Ysiky: add sudo to the front of that
[03:45] <peternix> does ubuntu have a video card configuration program?
[03:45] <YsikY> ok.. i go try... again
[03:45] <YsikY> hehe
[03:45] <peternix> the vanilla install worked fine
[03:45] <daves111> so, anyway ... what about the sources.list? I'm looking at it
[03:45] <christoz> hello I'm using Ktorrent and i would like to tell me what is the DHT
[03:46] <damageplan420> i have been having problems with websites with java saying i dont have it installed, when i do the check on sun javas website it says i have it installed. i tried 5 diff browsers and i have only gotten opera to work. any ideas to get it to work on the others?
[03:46] <DJ_Cranky> christoz its a way to find sources for torrents that are in your local area network
[03:46] <YsikY> THANKS
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> daves111 Are any of them not ubuntu.com
[03:46] <christoz> oh thanks
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> daves111 What distro or release are you running
[03:47] <daves111> updated just a few weeks ago to the newer unbuntu release
[03:47] <PCcertified> YsikY: use synaptic package manager in the system->Administration and read this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> daves111 Pastebin it
[03:48] <drcheezenstein> yoooooo
[03:48] <daves111> what does that mean?
[03:48] <Starnestommy> !pastebin | daves111
[03:48] <ubot3> daves111: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[03:48] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: Ok thanks for the heads up, glad to know I bought a good external at least. *sighs relief* ^_^
[03:48] <PCcertified> YsikY:  you can also use apt-get which appears to be better.. it's all in that web link
[03:48] <YsikY> PCcertified: i am use "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:48] <drcheezenstein> hey flo_
[03:48] <PCcertified> tj83: good to hear it, I'm sure it will work fine
[03:48] <christoz> DJ_Cranky one more thing why at the left bottom corner is appeared  a triangle with an exclamation  mark in it(It say tha possibly i'm behind a firewall)?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[03:49] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[03:49] <ionstorm> the latest updates are asking me to remove languagesupport en
[03:49] <yaris12346789> intel celeron 2ghz, 256mb ram.....xp runs very slow. do you think it can handle ubuntu ?
[03:49] <ionstorm> and not reinstall it
[03:49] <YsikY> PCcertified: downloading.....................
[03:49] <ionstorm> why?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yaris12346789 Better if you can add 256 mor ram
[03:49] <tj83> PCcertified... the results are in.. success!
[03:49] <drcheezenstein> can someone help me with my wireless problem?
[03:49] <PCcertified> YsikY: that works
[03:49] <Ashfire908> Ok, this was working fine before one of the updates in the past week. I can't get pon/pppd to run a certain script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
[03:49] <daves111> ok, it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/16111/
[03:50] <yaris12346789> Jack_Sparrow: is there a distro that will run optimally on a 256mb ram and celeron processor ?
[03:50] <YsikY> PCcertified: thanks
[03:50] <DrMitch> drcheezenstein, why don't you just state your problem instead
[03:50] <green> hi
[03:50] <PCcertified> YsikY: the link I provided above explains it in a simple way
[03:50] <tj83> drcheezenstein and chipset
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> yaris12346789 xbuntu would be better..
[03:50] <christoz> DJ_Cranky the weird is that i have portforwarded correctly the ports and had already setup the firestarted for sharing torrents
[03:50] <yaris12346789> ok
[03:50] <green> yeah i was just thinking xubuntu
[03:51] <green> it has the Xfce
[03:51] <drcheezenstein> ubuntu 8.04 wireless card not pick up access point, but wont connect, have broadcom b34 drivers and firmware installed, It does pick up
[03:51] <Gaming4JC> btw, while I wait for my external modem. I still would like some one to compile this driver for my WinModem. It's all there, and should be really easy to compile. (I would but I can't compile offline without the packages) http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-6_for_Ubuntu-2.6.15-23-386.tgz
[03:51] <Gaming4JC> :)
[03:51] <Matthew1> Hi there...is anyone willing to help me use the partitioner safely?
[03:51] <tj83> jack_sparrow.. would you give more details on xbuntu? I too have an old machine that ubuntu kinda overloads
[03:51] <drcheezenstein> pick up the signal but wont go pass step 2 in connection process
[03:52] <daves111> I posted the sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu.com/16111/
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 Best to just google it up or check our wiki or the Xubuntu channel
[03:52] <green> Xubuntu.org has info
[03:52] <tj83> jack_sparrow... will do
[03:53] <Starnestommy> Gaming4JC: why can't you compile it yourself?
[03:53] <Ashfire908> Ok, this was working fine before one of the updates in the past week. I can't get pon/pppd to run a certain script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ no matter what I do.
[03:53] <yaris12346789> is xubuntu easy to install? how long is the installation? can i watch movies and access torrents ?
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> daves111 I see no problem there  see aptfix below
[03:54] <green> I recently installed a new pointer theme and it's showing it for the most part but also it's still using the default GNOME pointers
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[03:54] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:54] <neil_d> I have a epson stylus cx5500 what printer driver do I use ?
[03:54] <yowshi> is there a way to get fdisk to rescan available drives after you add another drive?
[03:54] <yowshi> without rebooting
[03:54] <daves111> <Jack_Sparrow .. what is aptfix below?
[03:54] <Ashfire908> yaris12346789,  xubuntyu is just ubuntu with Xfce instead of gnome.
[03:55] <Gaming4JC> Starnestommy: I can't compile it since the compiler tool is online. (When I get hardy I'll download the compilers from the site). But the run command for getting it off the cd doesn't exist. It just says downloading and then "can't connect". :s
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi fdisk -l will read all available drives
[03:55] <DJ_Cranky> neil_d the cx5500 driver didnt work?
[03:55] <Gaming4JC> no modem= no download :(
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[03:55] <Starnestommy> Gaming4JC: check http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:55] <yaris12346789> is DSL same as ubuntu in terms of performance and capabilities ?
[03:55] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow: i just plugged in a drive it should be availabkle but fdisk isnt seeing it
[03:55] <yaris12346789> also does xubuntu come with security stuff like antivirus, firewall ?
[03:55] <MikeCulver> I can't get file sharing to work with guest permissions.  The client machine will always say it can't mount the share.
[03:56] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: it has a firewall (iptables) but does not have an anticirus nor does it need one
[03:56] <cellofellow> yaris12346789: firewall, yes, antivirus is nonexistant for Linux (except email servers).
[03:56] <Starnestommy> *antivirus
[03:56] <Gaming4JC> Starnestommy: I wanted to test it for Hoary while Hary's in the mail. (Hoary is discontinued)
[03:56] <yaris12346789> linux has no antivirus ????
[03:56] <Gaming4JC> *Hardy's in the mail
[03:56] <cellofellow> yaris12346789: linux has no virus
[03:56] <kerin> linux has no viruses.
[03:56] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: clamav exists, but it does not need one
[03:56] <daves111> <Jack_Sparrow .. what is aptfix below? what do you mean?
[03:56] <kerin> Hey guys, after using wlanconfig to install my PCMCIA ethernet card and rebooting, X won't start.
[03:56] <yaris12346789> wow really?
[03:56] <cellofellow> yaris12346789: clamav, btw, scans for Windows viruses so you don't spread them around.
[03:56] <Gaming4JC> Yes there are anti-viruses and a firewall if you need it
[03:56] <Starnestommy> daves111: see ubot3's message
[03:56] <yaris12346789> sweeet
[03:57] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: what's the problem?  You need a Hoary repos?
[03:57] <Gaming4JC> AVG, F-Secure, Clam AV etc.
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> daves111 Read the link
[03:57] <Gaming4JC> yes
[03:57] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: yes. :)
[03:57] <confuded> Hey all
[03:57] <Starnestommy> !virus > yaris12346789 (see ubot3's private message for why linux has no virus problems)
[03:57] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <Gaming4JC> Thank you!
[03:57] <Gaming4JC> let me see...
[03:57] <yaris12346789> okay
[03:57] <confuded> Does anyone know where to find the Egalax 2.0 beta ir not drivers for the HP tx1000 series' touchscreen?
[03:57] <yaris12346789> danke Starnestommy
[03:58] <green> I recently installed a new pointer theme and it's showing it for the most part but also it's still using the default GNOME pointers, how do i change it from the default to use only the theme i installed?
[03:58] <Chater4567> http://www.meine-wilde-ex.net/?uid=156037
[03:58] <DJ_Cranky> confuded what device, specifically, do you need drivers for?
[03:58] <matt444> can you make grep search a whole directory (recursively)?
[03:58] <neil_d> DJ_Cranky: there wasn't one!  The C68 driver apparently does, I am going to test it soon.
[03:58] <confuded> DJ_Cranky, the touch screen
[03:58] <neil_d> DJ_Cranky: there wasn't one!  The C68 driver apparently does, I am going to test it soon.
[03:59] <AaronH> matt444, yes, with the find command then pipe that to grep
[03:59] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: Where would the Hoary distro be on that site? (looking through a lot of folders)
[03:59] <confuded> DJ_Cranky, the touchscreen on a hP tx1340ea that is tx1000 series.
[03:59] <qos> hey guys ... i want to upgrade my 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS. but when i am doing a "do-release-upgrade" then i get "No new release found"...
[03:59] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: You need a CD? or just the repo?
[03:59] <DJ_Cranky> confuded hmm, it doesnt work now?
[03:59] <Gaming4JC> just the repo
[03:59] <peternix> displayconfig-gtk does not save the detections
[03:59] <peternix> I have the right video card and monitor resolution
[03:59] <Gaming4JC> I need the compiler deb for it
[03:59] <peternix> But it is not saving i
[03:59] <peternix> +it
[03:59] <daves111> read what link?
[03:59] <DJ_Cranky> qos ubuntu 8.04 is not a pre-release anymore, it is a live release
[03:59] <confuded> DJ_Cranky, no. Hardy still does not have them. it is the Egalax drivers. The version 2.0 beta works on Hardy.
[03:59] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: for your sources.list, the url would be http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[03:59] <confuded> DJ_Cranky, thoug I cant find it!
[03:59] <qos> DJ_Cranky, that means?
[03:59] <jadewolf> okay this bttv thing is getting annoying
[04:00] <Gaming4JC> ok
[04:00] <Gaming4JC> but 'em
[04:00] <Gaming4JC> how do I get online to that in Ubuntu without a modem, Flannel?
[04:00] <DJ_Cranky> qos just use the update manager, it should automate it for you
[04:00] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main, for instance.
[04:00] <Gaming4JC> ok...
[04:00] <afabian> Transmission has like no documentation.  What's the deal with the yellow and blue bar in the main window?  The yellow is longer that the blue.  I have no idea what they mean.
[04:00] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: ah, You need the packages themselves.
[04:00] <qos> DJ_Cranky, There is no XServer on this machine. So, there is no gui for my
[04:00] <qos> me
[04:00] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: download packages to a thumbdrive and install manually with dpkg.
[04:00] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: YES :)
[04:01] <daves111> <Starnestommy I read two of his notes but don't see anything for me
[04:01] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[04:01] <Gaming4JC> ah ok
[04:01] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: nah, just go to packages.ubuntu.com and you can download packages from there.
[04:01] <Gaming4JC> looking...
[04:01] <s_spiff> anyone here can help me with a lan card issue i'm having? I've installed a ethernet card for my LAN, which requires me to give it static ip. when I try to ping the server, I get destination host unavilable, although all the other members on my LAN are able to do so. Any ideas why?
[04:01] <Starnestommy> !aptfix | daves111 (what about this?)
[04:01] <ubot3> daves111 (what about this?): If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:01] <Gaming4JC> cellofellow: I have Hoary. Doesn't exist there.
[04:01] <cellofellow> :(
[04:01] <cellofellow> ok
[04:01] <cellofellow> Hoary, huh?
[04:01] <Gaming4JC> yes
[04:02] <Gaming4JC> older distro
[04:02] <cellofellow> I guess updates are painful without internet.
[04:02] <Flannel> qos: do you have dapper-updates enabled? (and are you up to date?
[04:02] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: which packages are you looking for?
[04:02] <Gaming4JC> the compiler tools
[04:02] <Gaming4JC> umm... let me see
[04:02] <jadewolf> anyone got experience setting up a wintv go in ubuntu please message me or just say my name, I'm trying to get this thing to work with mythtv
[04:02] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: they're on the CD.  Do you have your install Cd?
[04:02] <s_spiff> anyone? with experience in ethernet card configurations?
[04:03] <Gaming4JC> build-essential. It's not on my CD (I have OpenCD version)
[04:03] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: What on earth is the open CD version?
[04:03] <qos> Flannel, look yourself. http://de.pastebin.ca/1035536 i think yes ...
[04:03] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: http://www.theopencd.org/
[04:03] <Gaming4JC> older site
[04:04] <daves111> <Starnestommy   !aptfix?
[04:04] <overridex> anyone know a good way to print an image as 4"x6" on a certain spot on the paper in ubuntu?  Or maybe even print more than one image at a time on one sheet of paper?
[04:04] <Starnestommy> daves111: the message you got from ubot3 is !aptfix
[04:04] <cyrus_> Howdy
[04:04] <overridex> (easily that is)
[04:05] <cyrus_> I'm looking to mount my NTFS (laptop) to my Ubuntu (desktop).  I have SMB running on this computer (ubuntu) for the server
[04:05] <cyrus_> is there a good link I should be looking at?
[04:05] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  Hoary wasn't available as an open CD version as far as I know.
[04:05] <cyrus_> or is it just a simple command?
[04:05] <showyoudawei> hi, could someone help me get java web plugin working on hardy?
[04:06] <showyoudawei> just upgraded, and firefox is not detecting it even though its installed
[04:06] <Flannel> qos: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` gives you what?
[04:06] <cellofellow> showyoudawei: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[04:06] <brando1> hey could someone tell me how to find the partitioner in 8.04 after your done with installing?
[04:06] <qos> Flannel, you know that i want to upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04?
[04:06] <brando1> i would like to resize my partition but i cant find it...
[04:06] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: Well perhaps unoffical. But it's a nice Live CD. and when I type  `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` it says cannot connect to server
[04:06] <caesa1> I know this is the wrong place to ask, but I'm buying a new computer, and I want to benchmark the one I have now. What are some benchmarking tools I can use, that can be compared with the "vista experience index" on new computers?
[04:06] <showyoudawei> cellofellow: thanks, does aptitude break stuff though? that's just what i've heard so i've avoided it
[04:06] <Flannel> qos: I do.  You have to be up to date with dapper to upgrade to Hardy
[04:07] <showyoudawei> i tried installing that package using apt-get but that says its outdated
[04:07] <cellofellow> showyoudawei: just use synaptic then
[04:07] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: right, because the mirrors for Hoary have been offline for 18 months now.
[04:07] <qos> there is a way to upgrade directly from lts to lts... see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#head-e059d5452a24b50d09c64df48058ef2d834eb197-2
[04:07] <brando1> does anyone know how i can run the partitioner in 8.04?
[04:08] <Flannel> qos: Right.  You need to be up to date with dapper to upgrade to Hardy
[04:08] <showyoudawei> cellowfellow: synaptic has no record of that plugin
[04:08] <Wiss> hi  ! Do you know how to configure the terminal to put 4 spaces per tab (a tab has 8 spaces at default). Thanks a lot for your help
[04:08] <Flannel> brando1: gparted
[04:08] <cellofellow> showyoudawei: enable multiverse and reload
[04:08] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: Well, perhaps. But I also can't get online at all remember? I need some one to compile that modem driver... -_-
[04:08] <brando1> yes flannel, i cant seem to find it in my system menu
[04:08] <brando1> why is that
[04:08] <showyoudawei> i'll try that, thank you
[04:08] <qos> Flannel, so, for what is that do-release-upgrade thing for?
[04:08] <showyoudawei> erh, multiverse is enabled
[04:08] <Flannel> brando1: "Gnome Partition Editor" you may need to install it.  gparted is the package name
[04:09] <Flannel> qos: Once you've updated, to go from dapper to hardy
[04:09] <yaris12346789> Hardy Heron, or Dapper Drake, ?
[04:09] <Flannel> !away > Joeb454|Sleeping
[04:09] <brando1> so it comes in the livecd but it doesnt install?  thats odd
[04:09] <daves111> here's what it said: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:09] <showyoudawei> Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:09] <showyoudawei> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:09] <showyoudawei> is only available from another source
[04:09] <showyoudawei> E: Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate
[04:09] <brando1> so what is the command for getting gparter do you know?
[04:09] <FloodBot3> showyoudawei: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <daves111> I mean: sudo: unable to resolve host daves111-desktop
[04:09] <daves111> [sudo] password for daves111:
[04:09] <daves111> sudo: pam_authenticate: Conversation error
[04:09] <daves111> sudo: unable to resolve host daves111-desktop
[04:09] <daves111> [sudo] password for daves111:
[04:09] <FloodBot3> daves111: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <qos> Flannel, am i stupid? why isn't there anything from this in the tutorial?
[04:09] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: Yes, if you had a proper CD, you could grab it form the CD, you'll have to grab it from that repo manually, and then grab all the depends too.
[04:10] <yell0w> hey guys, any suggestion for the best console browser ?
[04:10] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: So you mean it is on that site some where? hmm.. looking still
[04:10] <Flannel> qos: Up at the top, "be sure you have all upgrades applied to your current release"
[04:10] <RyeSeronie> Hello, I installed ubuntu using the Wubi installer on my Acer Aspire 5520. Unfortunatly my wireless doesnt work and my resolution settings are maxed out at 800x600. I am not sure what I should do now.
[04:11] <harriseldon> yell0w I like links
[04:11] <qos> Flannel, exactly. I have all updates of 6.06... because YOUR CURRENT release
[04:11] <Ashfire> yaris12346789,  xubuntyu is just ubuntu with Xfce instead of gnome.
[04:11] <Ashfire> yell0w, elinks
[04:11] <daves111> how do you make the response to someone in yellow?
[04:11] <Starnestommy> daves111: say their nick
[04:11] <cellofellow> showyoudawei: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:11] <daves111> like?
[04:11] <yell0w> ok Ashfire  harriseldon  tx
[04:11] <daves111> Starnestommy
[04:11] <showyoudawei> hardy
[04:11] <Ashfire> Dave123, like this.
[04:12] <Starnestommy> daves111: yes
[04:12] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: That site is what apt gets packages from, yes.  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/ for instance is where you'd grab build-essential.  Whichever version Hoary had
[04:12] <showyoudawei> hardy w/ 64 bit processor
[04:12] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: Thnx. :)
[04:12] <daves111> so it looks yellow to you?
[04:12] <Flannel> qos: that's what sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does.  I wanted to be sure.
[04:12] <j1solutions> bushy beaver with a P2450mhz, 128mb of RAM
[04:12] <showyoudawei> the plugin worked fine in gutsy on my 32 bit laptop
[04:12] <Ashfire> Ok, this was working fine before one of the updates in the past week. I can't get pon/pppd to run a certain script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ no matter what I do.
[04:12] <cellofellow> showyoudawei: ok, so sun-java6-plugin *should* be available.
[04:12] <Starnestommy> daves111: it does, but only if my nick is in the message
[04:12] <brando1> thanks for the help with Gparter Flannel
[04:12] <Ashfire> Stupid client.
[04:12] <brando1> later
[04:12] <daves111> Starnestommy like this ... eh?
[04:13] <cellofellow> showyoudawei: have you made sure Multiverse repo is enabled and your cache is up to date?
[04:13] <daves111> you have to type it each time?
[04:13] <wers> what do you prefer, vmware or virtualbox?
[04:13] <Starnestommy> daves111: or type the first couple letters of my nick, then press the tab key
[04:13] <showyoudawei> yes, multiverse is enabled, and i've reloaded
[04:13] <cellofellow> wers: virtualbox
[04:13] <qos> Flannel, ok. but won't start "apt-get dist-upgrade" a upgrade to 7.04 or something like that?
[04:13] <Flannel> qos: No.
[04:13] <daves111> Starnestommy:  oh ... cool
[04:13] <cellofellow> showyoudawei: well, this is just weird
[04:13] <Flannel> qos: That just gets all of your packages up to date.
[04:14] <daves111> Starnestommy: I haven't done much of this
[04:14] <wers> cellofellow, why?
[04:14] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: The link you just gave only back to version 10. Hoary is version 5.04 if I'm not mistaken... :s
[04:14] <Andre_Fiuza> hi guys
[04:14] <qos> Flannel, ok. i see there is a error in my understanding of this process ;)
[04:14] <cellofellow> wers: easy to set up, friendly interface, speedy, useful features like session saving and snapshots.
[04:14] <daves111> Starnestommy: still don't know what to do about the updates freezing up
[04:14] <Andre_Fiuza> how do i change the hostname in terminal?
[04:15] <brando1> Hi.  I'm trying to resize my ubuntu partition with gparted, can I do that while ubuntu is running or do I need to use a live cd?
[04:15] <yaris12346789> is it possible to run my computer as SSH/HTTPD server on xubuntu very easily ?
[04:15] <cellofellow> Andre_Fiuza: sudo hostname newname, and change /etc/hostname for it to change at boot.
[04:15] <fanqo> hello,guys here,i am using kubuntu now,but every time i power on my computer ,i must restart x ,or the desktop will not wok,anyone has the same problem
[04:15] <Starnestommy> Andre_Fiuza: and change /etc/hosts
[04:15] <Andre_Fiuza> let me try
[04:15] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: Those are package versions, you'll have to cross reference with http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[04:15] <Xcell> Hey:  Who knows the command for stopping (join/part) for xchat?
[04:16] <Starnestommy> Xcell: xchat-gnome or regular xchat?
[04:16] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: for instance, build-essential has a version of 10.1ubuntu1
[04:16] <Xcell> regular
[04:16] <Ashfire908> I can't get pon/pppd to run a certain script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
[04:16] <Starnestommy> Xcell: right-click on the channel tab and uncheck "show join/quit messages"
[04:16] <brando1> can i resize my ubuntu partition while running ubuntu?  if so, how?
[04:16] <Gaming4JC> Ah ok, Flannel. :)
[04:16] <baloogan> hey everyone!
[04:16] <Gaming4JC> hi
[04:16] <baloogan> I have a ubuntu problem!
[04:16] <jbroome> brando1: no
[04:16] <Gaming4JC> :P
[04:16] <Xcell> ok tx Starnestommy
[04:16] <baloogan> I have no cgi-bin!
[04:16] <brando1> so then how do i resize?
[04:16] <baloogan> I can't find it!
[04:16] <cellofellow> brando1: you have to use a livecd
[04:16] <baloogan> It is just gone!
[04:16] <sTiVo> Say, I just downloaded the latest updates for 7.1.0 and it appears to have messed up my time display.
[04:17] <Flannel> qos: So, pastebin the output you get from sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:17] <brando1> ok thanks
[04:17] <brando1> bye
[04:17] <baloogan> I need to put something in my cgi-bin!
[04:17]  * baloogan is missing a cgi-bin
[04:17] <Xcell> man.. 2 dang simple.. i feel dumb now..lol
[04:17] <cellofellow> baloogan: the cgi-bin directory is in /usr/share, I think
[04:17] <baloogan> okay
[04:17] <baloogan> um
[04:17] <baloogan> I don't have a /usr/share/cgi-bin
[04:17] <Starnestommy> baloogan: try /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
[04:18] <fale_> hi
[04:18] <baloogan> okay I have that
[04:18] <RyeSeronie> I visited the forums to get resolution fo rmy issue with getting my wireless working. But the instructions I found required access to the internet to get some file at madwifi. how do I do that without internet access within ubuntu?
[04:18] <sTiVo> My time is displaying five hours earlier than it really is.  I am set up for ntp.  It is evidently reading the server, subtracting five hours for the time zone, and then subtracting five hours again.  I am 5 hrs behind GMT not 10 hrs.
[04:18] <cellofellow> Starnestommy: I was close. :)
[04:18] <daves111> can someone help me - my updates won't update - just freeze
[04:18] <fale_> is there someone that is in charge to create packages?
[04:18] <Dutt|Away> I used Wubi-8.04 to install ubuntu and then booted it up. it booted no probs and asked me to update alot of stuff (gfx Driver) was one of them, then it asked me to reboot but after that i can still boot it up but i cant see anything and my screen turns off. does anyone know how i can fix this?
[04:18] <Flannel> fale_: #ubuntu-motu
[04:18] <fale_> Flannel: :) thx
[04:18] <rd> greetings friends, i have strange problem... a friend gave me a cd-r which has pictures... that is what he says..i looked at it and i see the burn marks behind it, so i know something is on the cd... but when i pop it into computer it says its just a blank cd-r
[04:19] <sTiVo> timezone is correctly listed as America/Chicago but time is incorrect as outlined above.
[04:19] <qos> Flannel, http://de.pastebin.ca/1035546
[04:20] <wers> does virtualbox require high system specs? i have 1.5ghz celeron M and 512MB ram
[04:20] <cellofellow> wers: that'd barely work
[04:20] <daves111>  can someone help me - my updates won't update - just freeze
[04:20] <sTiVo> any ideas about my clock problem?  This was not happening before I took the updates.
[04:20] <Flannel> qos: alright, uh, apt-cache policy update-manager-core
[04:20] <wers> do you think, it's worth trying?
[04:20] <cellofellow> wers: works much better with >=2 cores and 1GB ram.
[04:20] <cellofellow> wers: I've run it on less acceptably.
[04:21] <wers> how about if I run some windows XP lite?
[04:21] <cellofellow> wers: I was nutty enough to use it on a 450Mhz Pentium III.
[04:21] <qos> Flannel, http://de.pastebin.ca/1035549
[04:21] <cellofellow> wers: maybe the EeePC version?
[04:21] <wers> what happened when you did that, cellofellow
[04:21] <wers> ?
[04:21] <PCcertified> tj83: id you test the compiz?
[04:21] <rd> how do i view data from cd.. when it says its blank
[04:22] <Gaming4JC> Speaking of VirtualBox, I plan to install it once I get the new distro. I have 2GB Memory, AMD 64 processor, and a SATA-II, but what I'm wondering is if it will work, can you install things into the guest OS? (Such as swapping files back and forth from host to guest os)
[04:22] <cellofellow> wers: it ran sort of slowly, like everything else on that computer. Made it imposible to run Firefox.
[04:22] <wers> cellofellow, that's what i'm talking about
[04:22] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: yes, there's a Shared Folders feature for sharing files from guest to host.
[04:22] <Flannel> qos: Alright, that looks good.  sudo do-release-upgrade still gives you an error?
[04:22] <Gaming4JC> Awesome. :)
[04:22] <wers> cellofellow, i only want to run it for me to sync my sony ericsson mobile phone with the pc suite. you think, it can run the app?
[04:23] <qos> Flannel, still "No new release found"
[04:23] <Gaming4JC> Has anyone tried Paint.NET inside virtualbox with WinXP? (That'd be awesome)
[04:23] <Xcell> g`day folks
[04:23] <scorchburnet> hello all
[04:23] <cellofellow> wers: should be fine. VirtualBox lets you passthrough the USB connections with the proprietary version from Sun.
[04:23] <Flannel> qos: Alright, we'll just.. ignore that and do it manually.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal linux-[whatever arch, 686, 386, whatever]
[04:24] <scorchburnet> Has anyone installed DB2 Connect V8.2 on 32 bit ubuntu?
[04:24] <daves111> tried suggestion - got this:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:24] <qos> Flannel, will install a xserver right?
[04:24] <Flannel> qos: No
[04:24] <wers> cellofellow, thanks. that would stop me from thinking of dualbooting or ditching linux. haha! i should've bought a palm device instead. hehe
[04:24] <babolat> I'm trying to mount an ntfs volume, but I get "Cannot mount the volume | Unable to mount the volume". I've been able to previously mount this same HD once before in this same system. It's an external HD connecting via USB.
[04:25] <daves111> i mean this: sudo: unable to resolve host
[04:25] <Flannel> !hostname | daves111
[04:25] <ubot3> daves111: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[04:25] <cellofellow> wers: or a Nokia N800.
[04:25] <wers> cellofellow, does that sync well?
[04:25] <Gaming4JC> btw do DirectX games work in VirtualBox? (Specifically a racing game called Re-Volt)
[04:25] <cellofellow> wers: it's a linux "internet tablet".
[04:25] <wers> i'm waiting for ubuntu-powered mobile phones
[04:26] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: nope
[04:26] <Gaming4JC> :s
[04:26] <harriseldon> babolat what have tried so far?
[04:26] <wers> cellofellow, yeah but that doesnt mean that it has a linux syncing app just like linux-powered motorolas
[04:26] <cellofellow> wers: that's coming, and ubuntu-powered UMPCs a la EeePC.
[04:26] <TheNerdGotchU> whats up room! Question? whats a mac address and what are they used for? sorry if im off topic
[04:26] <cellofellow> wers: it does, though.
[04:26] <Gaming4JC> How can I play DirectX games on Linux then. (I heard WINE had something)...?
[04:26] <wers> yeah. still waiting for those
[04:26] <Ashfire908> Can I please have some help with run-parts (in reference to pppd's use of it for ip-up.d and ip-down.d)?
[04:27] <babolat> harriseldon: i haven't edited fstab yet if that's what you mean. i dunno what to put in
[04:27] <Flannel> qos: once we've done that, go through your sources.list and change the dapper's to hardy's
[04:27] <Starnestommy> Gaming4JC: wine has partial Direct3D support.  Windows games that use OpenGL work almost perfectly
[04:27] <cellofellow> TheNerdGotchU: MAC addresses are used for Ethernet (below the IP level) and AFAIK are like serial numbers or ISBNs, each NIC has one that is its alone.
[04:27] <Gaming4JC> hmm...
[04:27] <harriseldon> babolat if is is USB you should not need to. Have you tried to mount it from the command line?
[04:28] <blingham> Gaming4jc, I personally haven't had much luck with wine when it comes to games released more recently.  I've only been able to get games to run well using cedega, but it's a paid software.  www.transgaming.com
[04:28] <babolat> what's the command, harriseldon?
[04:28] <Gaming4JC> ok blingham. :)
[04:28] <qos> Flannel, whats about the linux-? package? Linux beer 2.6.15-51-server #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 17:12:18 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:28] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: Cedega and CrossOver Games apparently have wider Direct3D support.
[04:28] <mohkohn> I already installed "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin" but I am getting error message in Firefox 2 that there are no plugins
[04:28] <Gaming4JC> :-/ hmm
[04:28] <harriseldon> !ntfs | babolat
[04:28] <ubot3> babolat: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE
[04:28] <Gaming4JC> ashame they cost so much
[04:28] <Gaming4JC> Linux shoulld be free
[04:29] <Flannel> qos: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[04:29] <mohkohn> Is there something else I need to do to link java to firefox?
[04:29] <xocite> reading fonts in the console is easier than the terminal
[04:29] <Flannel> qos: Oh, sorry.  Uh, linux-686-server
[04:29] <daves111> says bash: somehostname: command not found
[04:29] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: That attitude is a little misconstrued. I think Linux ought to be Free but not neccarily free. (as in libre and gratis).
[04:29] <xocite> wrong window :)
[04:29] <blingham> Gaming4jc, it is - the softare isn't ;)  I will say though, that I've had games like Medal of Honor, World of Warcraft and City of Heroes running perfectly using Cedega.  If you're a hardcore gamer and you want to use GNU/Linux, it's worth saving for.  imho of course ;)
[04:30] <Flannel> qos: sorry.  Havne't done Dapper in a while, linux-server
[04:30]  * blingham agrees with cellofellow
[04:30]  * cellofellow thought that WINE made it a point to support WoW.
[04:30] <qos> Flannel, a last question? is this process save? because there is still the open question why a regular upgrade doesn't work?!
[04:30] <Flannel> qos: also, if you have like apache2 installed, make sure you have the "apache2" package (there's no reason why you'd delete this)
[04:30] <daves111> or this: bash: !hostname: event not found
[04:31] <blingham> cellofellow, to be honest I'm not certain.  I've been off of WoW for sometime now.. I got the patch.. *bad pun*
[04:31] <yaris12346789> is it possible to use windows vista's partition with xubuntu ?
[04:31] <Flannel> qos: this process is completely safe.  We could be tracking down a number of reasons as to why update-manager-core doesn't recognize the new thing, but this is much quicker, and just as safe, yes.
[04:31] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: I think so, but you can't install xubuntu on it
[04:31] <gwern> saving for? I thought Cedega was like 5-10 dollars a month, not so bad
[04:31] <yaris12346789> is there any distro that allows me to do this ?
[04:31] <Xecuter> !ntfs | yaris12346789
[04:31] <ubot3> yaris12346789: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE
[04:32] <Flannel> !hostname | daves111
[04:32] <ubot3> daves111: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[04:32] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: you could use wubi
[04:32] <yaris12346789> is that a distro ?
[04:32] <Gaming4JC> Hmm, well I always thought as Red Hat Linux being a bit traderous. Considering they charged for an OS alreadly largely built from free software. I think the same should be true for all Linux Software, freedom! :D  Although I might look into Cedega...
[04:32] <Flannel> daves111: Read what ubot3 says, it wasn't telling you to use the "!hostname" command in bash
[04:32] <yaris12346789> oh
[04:32] <yaris12346789> i c
[04:32] <blingham> gwern, it isn't so bad.. but that depends on your situation ;)  If you're a young H.S. student w/o $$ it's a bit much /month :)
[04:32] <Gaming4JC> Besides, DirectX for Wine http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1051 free ;)
[04:32] <Flannel> qos: also, if you have like apache2 installed, make sure you have the "apache2" package (there's no reason why you'd delete this under normal operation)
[04:33] <qos> Flannel, thanks. i checked this already. take a look at this ... http://de.pastebin.ca/1035558
[04:33] <daves111> Flannel: how do I find hostname
[04:34] <xocite> daves111: just type "hostname" in the terminal
[04:34] <Flannel> qos: you wouldn't want --devel-release, Hardy is final now.
[04:34] <blingham> Gaming4jc, whatever works.. that's what I say :)  You may end up needing a combination of a few solutions to get all of your games working.  Only game I haven't been able to get working is M$ Flight Simulator X (go figure... ) ;) - but I've found Linux replacements since ;)
[04:34] <daves111> Flannel: says desktop
[04:34] <qos> Flannel, but it is working. isn't it just a normal hardy?
[04:34] <Flannel> daves111: then that would be your hostname
[04:34] <Flannel> qos: No, the development release is Intrepid.
[04:35] <cellofellow> daves111: without qoutes 'hostname whateveryouwantthenametobe'
[04:35] <Xecuter> blingham, you've found a replacement to MS flight simulator? gief!! :P
[04:35] <qos> Flannel, but it checks the hardy.tar.gz
[04:35] <cellofellow> I like FlightGear.
[04:35] <Gaming4JC> Yes
[04:35] <Flannel> qos: shrug.  Perhaps it knows better.  Anyway, if its working thats fine.  Why did you have an issue then?
[04:35] <Gaming4JC> FlightGear is pretty awesome, IMO. :)
[04:36] <jonathan_> hey
[04:36] <cellofellow> Also the Google Earth flight simulator is pretty fun.
[04:36] <frsandstone77> hey there guys
[04:36] <blingham> lol I was using something that I found in the repos.. took a while to get it working properly, but worked well.  Hasn't worked since I went Hardy back in April, but I havne't had time to play with it either... I tink it may hvae been FlightGear
[04:36] <frsandstone77> ive got a problem with my external hard drive
[04:36] <daves111> says hostname: you must be root to change the host name
[04:37] <xocite> daves111: then sudo hostname NEWHOSTNAME
[04:37] <frsandstone77> hello?
[04:37] <xocite> frsandstone77: What's the problem?
[04:37] <frsandstone77> kk
[04:37] <frsandstone77> i'll give you the exact error
[04:37] <xocite> If it's long, use a pastebin
[04:37] <Gaming4JC> hmm... anyone know if there is a patch and/or if Re-Volt is supported on one of the emulators? (Cedegna said it wasn't supported yet)
[04:37] <frsandstone77> unable to mount volume 'Freeagent Drive'.
[04:38]  * cellofellow didn't get the puzzled questions when he mentioned a Google Earth flight simulator he was expecting.
[04:38] <ubuntunew]> hi guys, i put ubuntu on my laptop and am having trouble getting on my wireless network here at the house
[04:38] <qos> Flannel, i appreciate your pain :), but there are some reasons i am worring about with this upgrade. i am wondering that it doesn't work as it should. and if it would be so easy with your methode, so why did they do it this way in the manual?
[04:38] <tech0007> question.. i'm running samba. i can see other pc's not in my home network. i cant access them but i dont know if they can access my machine. any ideas?
[04:38] <xocite> frsandstone77: How did you try to mount it?
[04:38] <frsandstone77> i didnt
[04:38] <xocite> frsandstone77: Did you plug it in?
[04:38] <frsandstone77> im not sure how to
[04:38] <Flannel> qos: Because automation is safer if you don't know what you're doing (the script does what we would've done manually).
[04:38] <Chris|> When will Gutsy not be supported?
[04:38] <frsandstone77> yup
[04:38] <Starnestommy> Chris|: October 2009
[04:38] <xocite> tech0007: That is dependent on your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:39] <daves111> still says the same thing ... think I'll go cry myself to sleep
[04:39] <Chris|> ah, alright thanks Starnestommy
[04:39] <xocite> frsandstone77: How is the volume formatted?  NTFS? FAT?
[04:39] <frsandstone77> ntfs
[04:39] <daves111> bye guys; thanks for  talking
[04:39] <frsandstone77> cya
[04:39] <tech0007> xocite:  i used the default﻿ smb.conf..anything i need to change?
[04:39] <qos> Flannel, what the last pastebin mentioned was, that it will get started a new ssh server on a new port during the update and it is recommend to do this without ssh.
[04:39] <mactimes> Hello.
[04:39] <harriseldon> !ntfs | frsandstone77
[04:39] <ubot3> frsandstone77: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE
[04:40] <Gaming4JC> Hmm another thing I'be been meaning to ask, can you upgrade Ubuntu to latest build, or do you have to reinstall the whole OS each time a new version comes out?
[04:40] <xocite> tech0007: h/o, let me open mine
[04:40] <samuel> Do programs for linux support all GUIs? Like firefox, for example. I know that there is a verson that works on the KDE desktop environment, but would the one that I have on my gnome GUI be able to work on it?
[04:40] <tech0007> xocite: ok thanks
[04:40] <Flannel> qos: the traditional way requires manual editing of files, and stuff like that.  But it still works, and was the way we've upgraded for a long time now.
[04:40] <xocite> samuel: yes
[04:40] <xocite> samuel: If I understood your question correctly
[04:40] <mactimes> I'm facing _issues_ with gdm after clean install of Hardy Heron.  Screen goes weird, can someone, please help?
[04:40] <Xecuter> Gaming4JC, apt-get dist-upgrade upgrades the whole system
[04:40] <Starnestommy> samuel: any program that works on one desktop enviroment will usually work with the rest
[04:40] <xocite> samuel: the appearance may be a bit different but the functionality is the same
[04:41] <qos> Flannel, did you try this with a 6.06 to a 8.04?
[04:41] <samuel> xocite: Thanks, I was just curious, for programming reasons.
[04:41] <Gaming4JC> ok, great Xecuter. :)  How long would it take on Dial-Up though? :P
[04:41] <xocite> samuel: Now understood, KDE uses QT and gnome uses GTK
[04:41] <xocite> *understand
[04:41] <cellofellow> samuel: all the guis are compatible to a degree, looks and accessibility don't port from GNOME to KDE.
[04:41] <Xecuter> Gaming4JC, haha waaay to long:P
[04:41] <Flannel> qos: Not on this box, but this box will be upgrading in the future, yes.
[04:41] <Gaming4JC> :P
[04:41] <Xecuter> Gaming4JC, but if your not paying by the hour, then go ahead ;)
[04:41] <ubuntu> \salvador
[04:41] <samuel> xocite: Yeah, I figured as much, as far as cross-GUI would be concerned.
[04:42] <xocite> tech0007: Can you post the default config for me to a pastebin so I can check it out?
[04:42] <qos> Flannel, ok thanks for your patience. but i think i have to slept about this for a while ^^
[04:42] <babolat> sudo mount sdc1
[04:42] <xocite> tech0007: I'm using a different distro.
[04:42] <samuel> xocite: Thanks for the confirmation on that. Time to figure out what I want to make now ^_^
[04:42] <cellofellow> samuel: running a GTK app in KDE is like running one in Windows. It works, just looks weird.
[04:42] <yowshi> grrr why isnt fdisk seeing this drive
[04:42] <xocite> samuel: np
[04:43] <harriseldon> yowshi did you check dmesg when you plugged it in?
[04:43] <xocite> tech0007: But otherwise, look in that file and see who the valid users are.  If a share is not listed as public (public = yes) then no one can access it.
[04:43] <yowshi> no
[04:43] <m_newton> Hello, anyone know how to get the hardware specs (specially the laptop battries) using terminal?????
[04:43] <yowshi> ah some kind of buffer i/o error
[04:43] <tech0007> xocite: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/16115/
[04:44] <PCcertified> question about installing apps and drivers.  where will they be installed?
[04:44] <Xecuter> m_newton, lshw?
[04:44] <harriseldon> yowshi if it is usb, try another port. sometimes it is port specific
[04:44] <Saintmagician> I have ubuntu installed on one of my laptop's harddrives, but it won't start up (i think something to do with me installing vista on the other HD). Is there a way to use the live CD to get a list of all applications/packages i had installed on that harddrive before i reinstall ubuntu?
[04:44] <Gaming4JC> Xecuter: Lucky I'm not paying by the hour. ;)  But if I got to a highspeed place, is it possible to update the distro from a new CD (kinda like Windows Repair, exept for Ubuntu lol)
[04:44] <yowshi> it's an ntfs drive so maybe it simply cant do it without a reboot
[04:44] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: yes, actually
[04:44] <blingham> m_newton, I'm not sure if it contains battery info, but you can use sudo apt-get install hwinfo - which will give you some commands you can use to get very detailed hardware information.
[04:44] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: you can upgrade Ubuntu from the next-versions CD
[04:44] <Xecuter> Gaming4JC, heh that i dont know... i think you can download the cd and upgrade, not sure...
[04:44] <Xecuter> Gaming4JC, ah, there you see ;)
[04:44] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: not the LiveCD, just the Alternate.
[04:45] <tj83> saintmagician....i think you can re-install grub and pick up your vista partition
[04:45] <m_newton> thanks a lot!
[04:45] <Gaming4JC> lol ;) ... alternate?
[04:45] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: it acts as a repo
[04:45] <blingham> m_newton, the lshw that Xecuter mentioned is installed with hwinfo as well :)
[04:45] <Saintmagician> tj83: i tried that, but it won't work. When i try to boot from my second harddisk, the computer still tries to go into vista...
[04:45] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: Or in your case, Breezys install CD
[04:45] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: well, with Dapper they split into the "Desktop" Live CD and the "Alternate" text-install CD.
[04:45] <tj83> its just alot easier to do windows then ubuntu for the install.
[04:45] <jadewolf> okay I can get video in xawtv and tvtime, but I get no audio form thsi card, any ideas?
[04:46] <m_newton> kk
[04:46] <xocite> tech0007: From what I can see, the only things that are shared are your printers.
[04:46] <PCcertified>  tj83 how goes it with compiz fusion
[04:46] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: LiveCD became Desktop (and added an installer), Install CD was renamed to Alternate CD (and didn't change)
[04:46] <Saintmagician> so i can use the ubuntu live disk to access my ubuntu drive and everything is there. Isn't there a way to find a list of everything i've installed from that?
[04:46] <s_spiff> guys need help with ethernet card issues...  all info provided here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5089364#post5089364
[04:46] <m_newton> tj83, what happened to Matt12 when i left?
[04:46] <Saintmagician> like a dpkg --get-selections type list?
[04:46] <tj83> PCcertified... ok... Compiz so far so good.. i tinkered with the emerald theme manager a little.
[04:46] <tech0007> xocite: i shared the public folder in my home directory.
[04:46] <frsandstone77> the ntfs package isnt there
[04:46] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: So how would I update Hoary for exmaple with a new CD?
[04:46] <tj83> m_newton... got him straight.
[04:47] <Gaming4JC> (probably do a clean install, but just so I'll know)
[04:47] <tj83> m_newton... he is dual booting now.
[04:47] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: download or buy or borrow a Breezy CD and upgrade from it.
[04:47] <m_newton> tj83 with ubuntu?
[04:47] <xocite> tech0007: I don't see that in your configuration.
[04:47] <tech0007> xocite: but the main question, is it normal to see other PC's not in the home network when using samba? i'm using wired connection
[04:47] <s_spiff> anyone? with any experience in ethernet cards, please help me resolve this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5089364#post5089364
[04:47] <cellofellow> Gaming4JC: and then you can do the same with Dapper, and from there to Hardy.
[04:47] <tj83> m_newton.... yes vista/ubuntu.
[04:47] <qos> Flannel, last question: when i am installing a xserver on this machine. can i then use the GUI (update-manager)? would that solve my problem?
[04:48] <m_newton> tj83 how bout wubi, hardy is supported now. All in all better solution for a windows usr
[04:48] <jadewolf> Anyone got experience setting up WinTV Go 878 with Ubuntu? I can get video with tvtime and xawtv but no audio, any help would be greatly apperciated
[04:48] <Gaming4JC> cellowfellow: So I just pop in the CD and it upgrades? O_o (doubt it's that easy)
[04:49] <PCcertified> Looks like I now have to buy, yet another, webcam to try with linux.   Any suggestions on a list I can use to crosscheck the models that work with linux.
[04:49] <Flannel> qos: That could solve your problem, it wouldn't necessarily.  But, once you've upgraded to Hardy, your problem will be moot.
[04:49] <Xecuter> s_spiff, do you have to internet connections?
[04:49] <Xecuter> two*
[04:49] <tj83> m_newton.... i personally dont have any experience with wubi... and personally... i got rid of windows for a reason... so dont really care to explore it at this time..
[04:50] <DIL> itsg works for me
[04:50] <Leefmc> Where can one download git? I was essentially told that any program worth its weight, can be installed from the package manager. Yet, i cannot find Git. Surely Git is WELL worth its weight.. so whats the deal?
[04:50] <s_spiff> Xecuter: nopes. one is for the internet connection.. the other is only for LAN
[04:50] <frsandstone77> can someone help me, the NTFS configuation is not available from add/remove applications menu
[04:50] <Xecuter> s_spiff, oh okey, let me just read throug your post...
[04:50] <tj83> i have a legal vista copy sitting on my desk... i just like to stare at it and think of evil things about bill gates.
[04:50] <s_spiff> Xecuter: thanks.
[04:50] <Starnestommy> Leefmc: sudo apt-get install git
[04:51]  * Gaming4JC yawn
[04:51] <PCcertified> Leefmc:  #apt-get install git-core gitk git-gui git-doc curl
[04:51] <fserve> how i can restart my bluetooth lan?
[04:51] <m_newton> tj83 ya. try vista home premium with 1 gb ram... :wild BlackSOD (automatic restart) all day long
[04:51] <Xecuter> s_spiff, 1. is your cable connected? :P lol
[04:51] <PCcertified> Leefmc: another way is... install the packages "git-core" & "git-gui" via package manager (Synaptic)
[04:52] <blingham> My PC came preloaded with Vista... I then cleaned the virus with Ubuntu :) *groans at his own lame joke*
[04:52] <Leefmc> Starnestommy, Ok, so pardon my ignorance. But why is git in there? If i go to add/remove, "git" is not found, nor is "git-core"
[04:52] <s_spiff> Xecuter: hehe yeah it is. i tested the setup on XP anyways, worked fine there :(
[04:52] <tj83> m_newton , when i am not so poor... i want to build a nice desktop.. and then i will dual with vista... so for now... paperweight and as poor as i am it will be there for a while.
[04:52] <Starnestommy> Leefmc: because add/remove is just desktop stuff.
[04:52] <frsandstone77> i'm running ubuntu 8.04, and from what I understand, it comes with ntfs support.  How do i mount my drives?
[04:52] <Xecuter> s_spiff, hehe, can you pastebin lshw -C networking ?
[04:52] <Starnestommy> Leefmc: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager is everything
[04:52] <s_spiff> Xecuter: okies.. hold on
[04:52] <tj83> m_newton i have home premium with 1gb also
[04:52] <Leefmc> Starnestommy, Ah! So, are they both "package managers" ?, but one is specialized towards desktop features?
[04:53] <metalpres> is hardy a recommended upgrade or is there really no benefit if you already have a properly working gutsy install?
[04:53] <Leefmc> Starnestommy, That would explain the bit of confusion i've been having between the two.
[04:53] <Xecuter> s_spiff, sorry; lshw -C network
[04:53] <Gaming4JC> Aha! Hey guys you know anything about "PlayOnLinux"? http://www.linux.com/feature/128773
[04:54] <boobmcgeeyo> y u be hating on  a gangstA ASS NEGRO
[04:54] <Gaming4JC> supposedly plays tons of Windows gmaes...
[04:54] <boobmcgeeyo> I JUST BE CDOIN MY THANG
[04:54] <PCcertified> I've been using synaptic, not add/remove apparently it doesn't list the same stuff
[04:54] <boobmcgeeyo> SO NU BEST  BE STEPPIN OFF HO
[04:54] <tj83> and with only 1gb of ram... i like how i have not once used a single mb of swap.... windows was using pagefile right after boot.
[04:54] <Gaming4JC> !offtopic | boobmcgeeyo
[04:54] <ubot3> boobmcgeeyo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:54] <m_newton> tj83 i think they stopped making them with 1 gb now. They have 2gb (WOW --their advertising symbol...not to be confused with WoW (world of ...). I can just imagen running a server.
[04:54] <boobmcgeeyo> U BITCH ASS CRAKA
[04:54] <Starnestommy> !os | boobmcgeeyo
[04:54] <s_spiff> Xecuter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16116/
[04:54] <ubot3> Factoid os not found
[04:54] <Starnestommy> er...
[04:54] <PCcertified> thanks Starnestommy
[04:54] <boobmcgeeyo> YEWASH
[04:54] <Starnestommy> !ot | boobmcgeeyo
[04:55] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow
[04:55] <boobmcgeeyo> NIGRO PLZ
[04:55] <tj83> m_newton and with only 1gb of ram... i like how i have not once used a single mb of swap.... windows was using pagefile right after boot.
[04:55] <boobmcgeeyo> 8[04:55] <krim_> I've deleted a bunch of old bookmarks but when I type something in the adress bar in Firefox 3 beta 5 they still appear there. How do I get rid of them?
[04:55] <Xecuter> s_spiff, thats it?
[04:55] <boobmcgeeyo> 8[04:55] <s_spiff> Xecuter: yeah... why?
[04:55] <m_newton> tj83 what is pagefile?
[04:55] <solid_liq> OnLY 1 Gb!?!  NoT
[04:55] <solid_liq> 2?!?/ or foOr?/?
[04:55] <qos> Flannel, i think i have the solution. there a 2 official tutorials. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-e059d5452a24b50d09c64df48058ef2d834eb197-2 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#head-e059d5452a24b50d09c64df48058ef2d834eb197-2. but the last one is not updated. the first ones describes the process a bit different.
[04:56] <frsandstone77> i got a new message:
[04:56] <Xecuter> s_spiff, you said you had two ethernet cards, thats only one...
[04:56] <frsandstone77> The volume 'FreeAgent Drive' uses the  file system which is not supported by your system.
[04:56] <Leefmc> PCcertified, Btw, what is "curl"?
[04:56] <tj83> windows version of SWAP.. only is a file located on the same partition.
[04:56] <PCcertified> NOOB question.... if I use wine, could I install and use the webcam driver for my not supported webcam in wine?
[04:56] <boobmcgeeyo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#head-e059d5452a24b50d09c64df48058ef2d834eb197-2
[04:56] <s_spiff> Xecuter: i missed the sude..
[04:56] <s_spiff> sudo*
[04:56] <Starnestommy> PCcertified: the driver would probly be accessible by wine programs, but not links ones
[04:56] <boobmcgeeyo>  FUCK you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:56] <tj83> m_newton windows version of SWAP.. only is a file located on the same partition.
[04:56] <Xecuter> can someone kick this idiot?
[04:56] <Starnestommy> !ops | boobmcgeeyo
[04:56] <ubot3> boobmcgeeyo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01!
[04:57] <PCcertified> krim_: clear your history in the optios
[04:57] <blingham> Boobm what's your damage?
[04:57] <babolat> Could someone tell me if I'm doing this right. I'm trying to mount an ntfs volume with 2 partitions. It's the third HD, connecting via USB. I added this to fstab -->/dev/sdc1   /media/windows   vfat   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[04:57]  * Starnestommy hides
[04:57] <PCcertified> *options
[04:57] <s_spiff> Xecuter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16119/
[04:57] <Gaming4JC> well
[04:57] <Gaming4JC> byes all
[04:57] <Gaming4JC> thnx for the help
[04:57] <Gaming4JC> ;)
[04:57] <krim_> PCcertified: I have, It didn't help.
[04:57] <FloodBot3> Gaming4JC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:57] <Gaming4JC> gn
[04:57] <indio> How is it called Ubuntu file browser ?
[04:57] <Leefmc> Question: Is there a cheatsheet to commands? I want to see whats available for apt-get install/remove, etc. Stuff like that
[04:57] <Starnestommy> indio: nautilus?
[04:57] <elkbuntu> boobmcgeeyo, mind being less rude please?
[04:57] <tj83> m_netwon... i'm tired... i keep messaging without speaking directly to you... sorry.. I scored 3 points today in here and i worked all day too. pooped.
[04:57] <babolat> indio: just to make it more understandable and less arbitrary i guess
[04:58] <boobmcgeeyo> no fuck you stfu
[04:58] <whall> hey guys -- i'm having trouble with dual monitors -- they work, but only in mirrored mode (even though mirror desktops is unchecked)
[04:58] <frsandstone77> can someone pleas help me out here?
[04:58] <babolat> !language
[04:58] <frsandstone77> The volume 'FreeAgent Drive' uses the  file system which is not supported by your system.
[04:58] <ubot3> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:58] <Xecuter> s_spiff, both show eth1, are you sure eth0 is working correctly, cuz it seems like ubuntu is not recognizing it...
[04:58] <tj83> where is Jack_sparrow.. someone needs  ban
[04:58] <indio> babolat: I don't get you.
[04:58] <asc> This is just awesome. I installed a PCI (not PCI express) graphics card on a machine that just needed basic graphics, and now it's running compiz with no problems.
[04:58] <babolat> indio: nautilus *is* a file browser in Ubuntu
[04:58] <s_spiff> Xecuter: well If i'm on the net right now.. it should be working correctly right?
[04:59] <m_newton> tj83 jack sparrow? is he a moderator
[04:59] <babolat> Could someone tell me if I'm doing this right. I'm trying to mount an ntfs volume with 2 partitions. It's the third HD, connecting via USB. I added this to fstab -->/dev/sdc1   /media/windows   vfat   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[04:59] <tj83> m_newton... yes.. he is
[04:59] <whall> sorry for the repost... but i thought it might have been missed with the whole kick/ban cursing thing going on around it :
[04:59] <whall> hey guys -- i'm having trouble with dual monitors -- they work, but only in mirrored mode (even though mirror desktops is unchecked)
[04:59] <Xecuter> s_spiff, which card are you using for online surfing?
[04:59] <TheNerdGotchU> what is port 143 used for?
[04:59] <Flannel> qos: Those two are identical methods
[04:59] <TheNerdGotchU> imap
[04:59] <PCcertified> krim_: try closing all browsers and re-opening your browser
[04:59] <s_spiff> Xecuter: the onboard card which is a nvidia chipset.
[04:59] <frsandstone77> someone help me out here?
[04:59] <boobmcgeeyo> fuck all of you and yo mama
[05:00] <asc> babolat: The type should be ntfs, not fvat
[05:00] <TheNerdGotchU> dont answer that
[05:00] <blingham> babolat, sorry - I'm not that experienced with fstab.. I don't have a 2nd hard drive :)
[05:00] <tj83> m_newton... he is a good guy... helped me get my support notes from my wiki in the bot... and i have seen him ban a few outta here too.
[05:00] <babolat> ay't asc
[05:00] <Xecuter> s_spiff, strange that its not showing in lshw!
[05:00] <elkbuntu> !guidelines > boobmcgeeyo
[05:00] <asc> babolat: The line I use is "/dev/sdc2       /mnt/win        ntfs    defaults        0       0", which may or may not do what you want.
[05:00] <krim_> PCcertified: Done that several times. I deleted the bookmaks abour a week ago and closed firefox and cleared private details lots of times since then.
[05:00] <m_newton> tj83 i like ubottu best, cool moderator
[05:00] <Xecuter> s_spiff, ok, so eth1 is not working?
[05:00] <m_newton> tj83 also doesnt appear on list
[05:00] <babolat> i'll try nonetheless asc
[05:00] <asc> well, of course your mount point is different
[05:01] <s_spiff> Xecuter: yup.
[05:01] <asc> da
[05:02] <whall> alright, thanks for the acknowledgement.
[05:02] <babolat> asc: blarg..... can't find sdc1 in fstab.... *sigh*
[05:02] <tj83> PCcertified , m_newton, all, have a great night... we had a good run this afternoon.. hope to see you fine folks in here tomarrow!
[05:02] <Xecuter> s_spiff, dont see any reasons why it shouldnt work...
[05:02] <frsandstone77> how do i undo a "fuse" that i setup with my partitions
[05:02] <dskduq> mackenzie u here?
[05:02] <s_spiff> Xecuter: :(. absolutely flabbergasting!! the same setup used to work before, and now I have no clue why it isn't working now :(
[05:02] <PCcertified> ins't there a command to ignore peeps like /ignore boobmcgeeyo
[05:02] <m_newton> thanks PCcertified
[05:03] <Xecuter> s_spiff, do you remember if you did something that might have caused it to fial?
[05:03] <Xecuter> fail*
[05:03] <PCcertified> My pleasure
[05:03] <asu> janxcok
[05:03] <s_spiff> ummm.. dun think so.. maybe that time I had run pppoe
[05:03] <PCcertified> night tj83
[05:03] <Veinor> For some reason, whenever I try running an upgrade, the update manager says that it can only do a partial upgrade.
[05:04] <m_newton> Hey, What is the diffrence between normal ubuntu and tomubuntu? is tomubuntu like xfcs
[05:04] <m_newton> Hey, What is the diffrence between normal ubuntu and tomubuntu? is tomubuntu like xubuntu
[05:04] <dskduq> probably the GUI
[05:04] <PCcertified> tj83: you still here?
[05:04] <Xecuter> s_spiff, is it still running pppoe?
[05:05] <frsandstone77> hey, can someone PLEASE help me out here? no one is respondning
[05:05] <s_spiff> Xecuter: when the same LAN provider used to be my ISP ( a local guy distributing bandwidth) we had to use pppoe to connect.. so may be :(
[05:05] <asc> babolat: Interesting. I can't see anything wrong with the line. Does it work if you mount it by hand?
[05:05] <tj83> yes just for a sec PCcertified.. whats up?
[05:05] <babolat> asc: `nope..
[05:06] <PCcertified> frsandstone77: whats the problem
[05:06] <frsandstone77> kk
[05:06] <asc> babolat: What is the error?
[05:06] <frsandstone77> so i tried the auto mount for ntfs windows partitions
[05:06] <Xecuter> s_spiff, then try shutting it of, can't help you there, as i havent done it myself
[05:06] <babolat> asc: Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[05:06] <frsandstone77> and i had the option to setup
[05:06] <s_spiff> Xecuter: any idea where i can find pppoe.conf?
[05:06] <babolat> i tried -o force.. still didnt work
[05:06] <frsandstone77> ntfs FUSE module
[05:06] <babolat> asc ^
[05:06] <Xecuter> s_spiff, /etc?
[05:06] <frsandstone77> and i did it
[05:06] <tj83> PCcertified ... whats up?
[05:06] <s_spiff> Xecuter: lemme try.. :(
[05:06] <ubuntunew]> i am unable to get the wireless card driver from my laptop for ubuntu, any suggestions?
[05:07] <frsandstone77> and now i get the following error when i plug in my removable disk:
[05:07] <asc> Now there's an error I haven't seen before
[05:07] <frsandstone77> the volume 'freeagent drive" uses a file system which is not supported by your system
[05:07] <Nikunj93> fvf burning software
[05:07] <Nikunj93> sorry
[05:07] <Nikunj93> any DVD burning software
[05:08] <Morph3us> hi.. i installed realplayer for linux, but playin .rmvb files, the video is soundless.. any clue for me?
[05:08] <babolat> frsandstone77: is it an ntfs volume?
[05:08] <frsandstone77> yes
[05:08] <babolat> frsandstone77: please check in SYnaptic Package Manager is ntfs-3g is installed
[05:09] <frsandstone77> where to i find synaptic package manager?
[05:09] <Xecuter> s_spiff, /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf ;)
[05:09] <frsandstone77> (sorry first day with ubuntu)
[05:09] <Starnestommy> frsandstone77: System > Administration
[05:09] <s_spiff> Xecuter: thanks got it.. googled it D:
[05:09] <babolat> frsandstone77: what Starnestommy
[05:09] <dskduq> linux isn't easy to use at first
[05:09] <dskduq> there's a lot to it
[05:09] <dskduq> for a newb
[05:09] <babolat> frsandstone77: what Starnestommy said
[05:09] <PCcertified> babolat: he's using fuse, the problem is he is hot spwapping
 do you have mediubuntu?
[05:10] <s_spiff> Xecuter: woah! that file is missing in my ppp directory!
[05:10] <babolat> PCcertified: nevertheless he still needs ntfs-3g
[05:10] <dskduq> frsandstone, check this out http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=520
[05:10] <dskduq> it'll help u
[05:10] <Xecuter> s_spiff, yea in my to... thats maybe cus im not using it :P
[05:10] <asc> babolat: Yeah, I've got nothing. Google just mentions the -o force thing, and you've already tried that.
[05:10] <babolat> damn Windows.. it broke my partitions
[05:11] <Morph3us> m_newton, medibuntu repositories? yes i do.. why?
[05:11] <frsandstone77> dskduq, i'd love to learn all that, but first i'd like to make sure my removable disk is recognized
[05:11] <amrik> Hi are there any alternatives to flash for embedding video on a web page? I'm asking this because people using ubuntu are averse to flash embedded
[05:11] <tj83> ubuntunew atleast tell the channel what chipset it is
[05:11] <PCcertified> frsandstone77:  babolat I did it with fuse and did not use ntfs-3g...but that was in debian, should work here too...
[05:11] <s_spiff> Xecuter: but thats whats used to setup a pppoe based connection, how can it be missing?? its used to configure the whole connection/lan card..
[05:11] <frsandstone77> yes, babolat, i do have ntfs -3g is checked
[05:11] <babolat> ok, asc... i'm trying to restart since the option i've added to fstab is for automatic mounting.. maybe it needs to boot
[05:11] <Xecuter> s_spiff, no its just used to configure pppoe
[05:11] <dskduq> frsandstone77: this stuff is important to know in general
 well that should have a way to play everything
[05:11] <dskduq> to help you understand the system better
[05:11] <babolat> frsandstone77: then i dunno what's wrong.. i think PCcertified can help you more..
[05:12] <frsandstone77> kk
[05:12] <Xecuter> s_spiff, do you have any pppoe deamons in /etc/init.d/?
[05:12] <asc> babolat: Well, it also says that you can try starting in windows and 'safely remove hardware'. If you have a windows install handy it might be worth a try.
[05:12] <frsandstone77> pccertified? what you got for me =)
 can you play anything else, is it a sound issue?
[05:12] <Xecuter> s_spiff, try stoping it if you do
[05:12] <s_spiff> Xecuter: umm.. i dunno.. how do i check that?
[05:12] <Morph3us> m_newton, i can play sound with another apps.. like mplayer, totem or vlc.. xmms, rythmbox..
[05:12] <zxcvbs>  Hi anyone knows of a good case study site/book of  software implementation? like implementing an stock/revenue control, bookshelf control software or something basic, like that. Im searching more of requirements of a given area, business needs.
[05:12] <Xecuter> s_spiff, ls /etc/init.d/ppp*
[05:12] <zxcvbs> Something oriented to requirements analysis of small business/ companies needs.
[05:13] <frsandstone77> pccertified, you there dude?
[05:13] <dskduq> frsandstone77: type /join ##linux they can help you
[05:14] <s_spiff> Xecuter: only one ppp seems to be there... pppd-dns
[05:14] <Ashfire908> How do I get Ubuntu to do autoconf for IPv6?
[05:14] <PCcertified> frsandstone77:  check out http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[05:14] <tj83> ok... i am really out this time... PCcertified... m_newton... night and night to all.
did you try helix
[05:15] <m_newton> bye tj83
[05:15] <s_spiff> Xecuter: got it... its in /usr/sbin and its called pppoeconf... not pppoe.conf :D
[05:15] <frsandstone77> alright pccertified i'll check it out, thank you
[05:15] <Xecuter> s_spiff, aah
[05:15] <PCcertified> frsandstone77:  the last timeI did it was more than 6 months ago.. it's do-able but I don't remember the exact instructions
[05:15] <Morph3us> m_newton, no, i don't..
[05:16] <Morph3us> m_newton, in a forum says that if i kill the esd process, realplayer recover sound capabilities
[05:16] <blingham> I got one for ya's.. I installed edubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu (via apt-get) to try it out.. I've now removed it (via apt-get), but the boot screen still says edubuntu and the interface is not standard ubuntu.. anyone know how to put it back? :)
[05:16] <PCcertified> frsandstone77:  there are step by step instructions there and this is a more reliable way if you want to WRITE to the ntfs drive
[05:16] <Strake> I'm using HH and when I first installed ubuntu, I could connect to wifi networks, but now all of the sudden, I can't. Any ideas as to why? I think it started when I reinstalled my video drivers...
this is a realplayer for linux ... esd process?
[05:16] <Xecuter> blingham, what do you mean about interface?
[05:16] <s_spiff> Xecuter: i'll just restart X and check it out if it worked..
[05:17] <Xecuter> s_spiff, mkey
[05:17] <Morph3us> m_newton, no, esd seems to be a kind of sound system for linux, like ALSA
[05:17] <frsandstone77> pccertified: thank you very much for your help
[05:17] <frsandstone77> i'll give it a go
try helix, sudo apt-get helix-player
[05:18] <Morph3us> m_newton, all right.. thank u
[05:18] <blingham> The icons are all different when you install edubuntu, when I removed, and restarted X, they didn't change back
as for killing an application for sound doesnt seem like a solution, srry if i wasnt much of a help
[05:18] <Xecuter> blingham, just the icons?
[05:18] <Xecuter> blingham, rightclick on the desktop and choose other icons ;)
[05:19] <blingham> Well, it's the icons, the logo used to the left of the applications menu, and the boot screen.
[05:19] <blingham> lol ;) that much I could have figured out lol I just figured there was more to it than that :)
[05:19] <Morph3us> m_newton, thanks anyway.. i agree with you, killing ESD doesn't seem the solution
no prob
[05:20] <blingham> It's not really a problem, everything still works the same way, but I thought there'd be a quick fix :)
[05:20] <Xecuter> Morph3us, you have audioproblems?
 sudo apt-get purge edbunutu-desktop
[05:20] <PCcertified> can someone recommend a nice hardware monitor?  I'm looking for something partially transparent I can dock on side of screen on only desktop
[05:20] <PCcertified> most important stats would be HDD space and cpu mem usage
[05:21] <blingham> m_newton, I'll give that a shot..
[05:21] <Xecuter> PCcertified, conky, and also screenlets
[05:21] <Morph3us> Xecuter, no, i don't.. but i'm trying to reproduce .rmvb files with realplayer
[05:21] <holyguyver> hey guys, I installed virtualbox & it's moduals & then whenever I restarted my PC I am getting no sound & my monitars resalution is messed up & everything is in safe graphics mode. I uninstalled virtualbox & all of it's moduals, but yet things are still stuck like this, what do I do?
[05:21] <PCcertified> thanks Xecuter
[05:21] <holyguyver> I did this before & it happened & then I had an update & after the update everything was fixed, but the update uninstalled the virtualbox modulas, so I reinstalled them & then this happened again, but updates are not fixing it as my machine is up to date :p
[05:21] <Morph3us> Xecuter, and the video is showed perfectly but soundless
[05:21] <holyguyver> It made it so that gstreamer cannot detect my soundcard, & that it will not detect my monitar type.
the one that comes with ubuntu not good enough?
[05:21] <NTU> hey Michael_
[05:21] <Xecuter> Morph3us, oh ok, try killing pulseaudio
[05:22] <holyguyver>  before I installed & reinstalled the virtualbox moduals it detected everything fine
[05:22] <babolat> who was that guy helping me earlier with ntfs mounting ??
it is called system monitor
[05:22] <blingham> m_newton, I did that.. but it just tells me that it's already removed.   I removed it with sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop...
[05:22] <Michael_> hey do any of u guys know how to hack like facebook passwords? do any of you have any software for that?
[05:22] <PCcertified> m_newton: which one is that
[05:22] <meltingclock> o_O
[05:22] <NTU> lol
[05:22] <holyguyver> we are talking about the OS that runs it
[05:22] <holyguyver>  Althought it doesn't run it anymore as I uninstalled VB
[05:22] <Morph3us> Xecuter, pulseaudio? this is safe? :S
[05:22] <ragsagar> !offtopic | Michael_
[05:22] <ubot3> Michael_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:22] <babolat> Michael_: the room and this channel in general does not support malicious conduct
[05:22] <twentyfiftyone> (yet another question) I have a question only an X ninja can answer... the window manager's crashed, but GIMP is still open and not crashed itself... Any way to restart x and keep the programs open?
administrator system manager
[05:23] <Michael_> so none of you hackers have anything??
[05:23] <Xecuter> Morph3us, yep, i do it myself, as pulseaudio resulted in totem not playing audio
[05:23] <holyguyver> I uninstalled & purged VB
[05:23] <Ashfire908> My computer doesn't want to do IPv6 autoconf, how do I enable it/make it work?
[05:23] <Michael_> i will pay
[05:23] <holyguyver>  I am still trying to figure out what update fixed it last time :p
[05:23] <holyguyver>  maybe it was a linux kernal or a grub update
[05:23] <holyguyver>  What do you think?
system >administrator >system manager
[05:23] <babolat> !ot | Michael_
[05:23] <ubot3> Michael_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:23] <holyguyver> Any help?
 you just want to change the icons right
[05:23] <ragsagar> !google | Michael_
[05:23] <ubot3> Michael_: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[05:23] <Xecuter> blingham, to change splash screen System>Preferences>Splash Screen.
[05:24] <Morph3us> Xecuter, it works!
[05:24] <twentyfiftyone> meh. I wish gimp had sequential autosaves. >.<
[05:24] <Xecuter> !google | blingham
[05:24] <ubot3> blingham: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[05:24] <Xecuter> ;)
[05:24] <Xecuter> Morph3us, np ;)
[05:24] <Michael_> wats the latest kernal for ubuntu
[05:24] <Morph3us> Xecuter, but what happend with system sounds? other player sounds? i must kill pulseaudio anytime i want to use realplayer ? (many questions eh?)
[05:24] <s_spiff> Xecuter: looks like i'm able to connect to the dc++ hubs.. but some issue. I'm still getting destination host ...
[05:25] <bing_> hi guys i keep getting i "dont have permission to save files or create user shares" how do i give myself permission
[05:25] <ragsagar> use sudo
[05:25] <Xecuter> Morph3us, other sounds should work fine, since they dont depend pulseaudio... i think pulseaudio is just crap
[05:25] <ragsagar> bing_, use sudo
 try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:25] <xocite> Xecuter: alsa ftw
[05:25] <blingham> Ok ok, I get the picture ;) no more googles please... I was in the channel and figured I'd ask ;)  I'll google it next time lol
[05:25] <lepri> hey hey
[05:25] <lepri> i got a question
[05:25] <Xecuter> xocite, yes, but alsa isn't a sound-server:P
[05:25] <blingham> m_newton, thanks, I'll see if that fixes things up :)
[05:25] <Morph3us> Xecuter, hehehe.. i think same..
[05:26] <bing_> what do i type in sudo
[05:26] <xocite> Xecuter: i know
[05:26] <hegdenagaraj4> hello everyone i m a new user of ubuntu !!! i have connected nokia 6233 to my computer but ubuntu is not detecting it !!!
[05:26] <Xecuter> Morph3us, ubuntu is getting to big and sloppy i think, to much unneeded software... thats why im changing to arch ;)
[05:26] <lepri> how do you install drivers on ubuntu os? for the first time i want to try ubuntu so i need some help! anyone
[05:27] <xocite> I use Arch Xecuter /j #archlinux
[05:27] <ak74u> bing....u use sudo with any command that needs root priviledges
[05:27] <blingham> m_newton, just FYI - trying to install ubuntu-desktop didn't work because it's already installed.. I'll just change them manually :)  Thanks for all of your help.
[05:27] <NTU> does anybody else have problems with gcc?
[05:27] <NTU> i cant compile anything!
[05:27] <Morph3us> Xecuter, unneeded and untested software.. crash frequently (not enough tested software)
 what is arch
[05:27] <ubuntunew]> can anyone give me a hand? i am unable to get on the net wirelessly or plugged into my router
[05:27] <bing_> tso if i write sudo
[05:27] <Michael_> wen will ubuntu 8.10 use gnome 2.23 or 2.22
[05:27] <Flannel> NTU: Have you install build-essential?
[05:27] <Xecuter> lepri, you dont need drivers in ubuntu (okey sometimes you do, but very rarely) as drivers are integraded in the kernel
 when you say manually
[05:27] <NTU> yes
[05:27] <Morph3us> Xecuter, why Arch? i never heard about that distro
[05:28] <Flannel> Michael_: 8.04 already uses 2.22
[05:28] <Xecuter> m_newton, arch linux is another distro, like ubuntu
[05:28] <bing_> sudo allow videofolder usershare
[05:28] <Michael_> thank you dear flannel
[05:28] <fen[a]> Xecuter: if you _really_ want something lean you could try lfs linux :)
[05:28] <blingham> m_newton, Manually as in go and select the icons I want to use, and then change the splash screen.
 i would try going into system > prefrence> apperiance
[05:28] <lepri> thanx Xecuter
[05:28] <asc> lepri: Typically, you don't. Linux supports most, but not all, hardware without having to install drivers.
[05:28] <lepri> :) yup
[05:28] <Xecuter> Morph3us, arch is a distro that one builds up from the ground, its much thinner, runs faster and better, but its also harder to setup and such
 oh
[05:28] <Xecuter> lepri, np ;)
[05:29] <lepri> is it better for me as a first time user to use dual-boot! untill i get used before i crash everything!
[05:29] <blingham> m_newton, yea.. that's what i'm going to do.. I just thought there would be a setting where something is still pointing to edubuntu even though I've removed it, and that I could just change it...
[05:29] <ak74u> what are u trying to do?
[05:29] <ragsagar> bing_, tell me what u want to do?
[05:29] <asc> Ooh, you were being facetious.  Good boy. :)
[05:29] <Morph3us> Xecuter, is like Gentoo ? :S
[05:29] <frodubuntu> good night everyone
 If you want something awesome, try this sudo apt-get install ubutustudio-desktop
[05:29] <Xecuter> fen[a], hehe never heard of :P but i'm not using arch for the challenge, just because my computer is old and doesnt run ubuntu as good anymore
[05:29] <peternix> alright
[05:29] <Michael_> does ubuntu 8.04 support coreboot??
[05:29] <peternix> I have fixed my resolution back to what it should be
 ammazing sounds and splash and all!
[05:30] <peternix> but I am still having trouble with my video card
[05:30] <Xecuter> Morph3us, no not actually, its a little easier, but is buildt around the same principal
[05:30] <peternix> either I am not running the correct driver or it just can't support flightgear
[05:30] <asc> What package provides management for desktop effects these days?
 why arch?
[05:30] <bing_> ragsagar:i want to allow net usershare on a video ive downloaded
[05:30] <Xecuter> asc, compiz
[05:30] <lepri> asc: is it better for me as a first time user to use dual-boot! untill i get used before i crash everything!
[05:30] <peternix> anyway I can tell if my videocard is too slow or if it's just not the right driver?
[05:30] <Morph3us> Xecuter, compile everything?
[05:30] <blingham> m_newton, ahhh I totally forgot about studio!  I used it for a while when I had a spot on my friend's internet radio station, and then totally forgot about it.  I'll do that instead, thanks!!
[05:30] <Flannel> Michael_: Coreboot is independat of OS
[05:30] <peternix> I feel that it should be fast enough
[05:30] <Xecuter> m_newton, as i said my computer is getting old, and i need a lighter os to run things better
[05:30] <Michael_> thanks again flannel
[05:31] <Michael_> .
[05:31] <asc> Xecuter: Now how do I turn off these bloody wavey windows :p
[05:31] <Xecuter> Morph3us, no arch has a package system like ubuntu, pacman
 what are the key features for arch
[05:31] <asc> without disabling desktop effects
[05:31] <PCcertified> asc: compiz-fusion and Emerald are a nice combo and seems to work well
 no g00le plz
[05:31] <bing_> or allow net usershare on all my media
[05:31] <Starnestommy> !ot
[05:31] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:31] <Xecuter> asc, lol rightclick on your desktop, and select desktop settings or somethings and set desktop effects to off
[05:32] <frodubuntu> I killed my main linux partition trying to clone my hard drive
[05:32] <frodubuntu> I tried to resize it first
[05:32] <frodubuntu> and I messed it up
[05:32] <lepri> Xecuter- i asked something:(
[05:32] <frodubuntu> I can see the ntfs side
[05:32] <SilentDis> hello, does anyone have any expirence with Firestarter and it's setup?  I have 1 machine connected via EVDO (USB to cellphone) works fine, and I SSH into that machine over Eth0 from a laptop and tunnel a few X apps over it (kopete and skype).  Problem is, once the 'net connection comes up, I can no longer connect to the main box due to firestarter's setup.  Can someone tell me how to get this setup right?
[05:32] <lepri> :)
[05:32] <frodubuntu> but I cant see my linux side
[05:32] <Flannel> asc: System > Preference > Appearance, then Visual Effects tab
[05:32] <asc> Xecuter: I have no such menu option.
[05:33] <Xecuter> m_newton, well i havent used arch that long, but the principal its buildt around is KISS (Keep it simple, stupid), that means there no extra unneede software and such
[05:33] <Xecuter> lepri, what?
[05:33] <lepri> is it better for me as a first time user to use dual-boot! untill i get used before i crash everything!
[05:33] <Xecuter> asc, hmm running ubuntu 8.04?
[05:33] <jaek> can you change the media player that launches when you plug in your ipod?
[05:33] <asc> Here, let's try this again. I would like to configure visual effects. I don't want to turn them off, but I would like to, for example, disable wavey windows and configure keys
[05:34] <Xecuter> lepri, hehe yes it might be... the transision from windows can  be difficult...
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> lepri Not a bad idea.. I ahve dual-b for years
[05:34] <Flannel> asc: Alright, Youll need to install either simple-ccsm or compizconfig-settings-manager, the latter is more advanced.
[05:34] <lepri> aham, i see thanks :)
[05:34] <Michael_> what package do i need to install to compile my custom kernel??
[05:34] <m_newton> a
[05:34] <Xecuter> asc, oh ok, then install compiz config manager, there you can disable wobly windows...
[05:34] <Flannel> !kernel | Michael_
[05:34] <ubot3> Michael_: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential plus kernel headers and sources
[05:34] <ubot3> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:35] <sunbird> 55
 why do you have firestarter
[05:35] <asc> Aha. Thank you very much; that is what I was looking for.
[05:35] <ak74u> asc: compiz manager lets u tweak every aspect of ur gui.....is a great tool
[05:35] <Vlad1975> hi guys. anyone can suggest a good mmo game that i can download and install in ubuntu?
[05:35] <sunbird> 怎么没人说中文
 ubuntu hardy already has an inbuilt firewall
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[05:36] <ubot3> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:36] <lepri> so i think i will give a try with ubuntu, and wish me luck, by the way, dont get tired of me if i come up again with questions:):)
[05:36] <Starnestommy> m_newton: but firestarter provides a GUI to manage it with
[05:36] <SilentDis> m_newton: i've noticed a few odd log entries since i've started it.  I assume it's just something poking away at me, including a few log for attempts at root on SSH.  I'd like to restrict SSH access completely from the WAN side, and keep it just on the LAN side
[05:36] <frodubuntu> can somebody help me determine the block number on a ubuntu partition_
[05:36] <frodubuntu> ?
[05:36] <frodubuntu> I can't access it
[05:37] <frodubuntu> I was trying to recover it
[05:37] <ak74u> Vlad1975: i dont know about mmo for ubuntu, but i i do now that Cedega(runs over Wine) lets u play Windows based games....
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu Block number or uuid
[05:37] <frodubuntu> the hard drive is healthy
[05:37] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for responding first of all
[05:37] <frodubuntu> the thing is that my ubuntu partition was damaged in trying to resize my ntfs partition
[05:37] <metalpres> did hardy change the way is uses network sharing?  i could share files with my xbox in gutsy using about 2 clicks,  ive tried everything i can think of in hardy and i cant get my xbox to work at all
[05:38] <SilentDis> Vlad1975: I know Second Life runs natively under linux, as does A Tale In The Desert.  World of Warcraft works GREAT with wine as well, just gotta add -opengl flag to it's startup
 sry cant help you, interested to know where you find these logs though
[05:38] <Xecuter> metalpres, no i can share things in two clicks in hardy as well...
[05:38] <Vlad1975> do i just type -opengl in terminal/
[05:38] <Vlad1975> ?
[05:38] <frodubuntu> so when I try to run a e2fsck I get Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda5
[05:38] <frodubuntu> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[05:38] <frodubuntu> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[05:38] <frodubuntu> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[05:38] <frodubuntu> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[05:38] <FloodBot3> frodubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:38] <frodubuntu>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[05:39] <Starnestommy> Vlad1975: no
 gparted work?
[05:39] <frodubuntu> it is weirds
[05:39] <metalpres> Xecuter: i can turn sharing on but my xbox wont see the ubuntu box when running hardy, it sees it right away with gutsy
[05:39] <frodubuntu> I mean wird
[05:39] <Starnestommy> frodubuntu: is it ext2 or ext3?
[05:39] <frodubuntu> whatever ubuntu 8.04 uses for default
[05:39] <osmosis> what is an 'interrupt' ?
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu Did you try running livecd and gparted etc
[05:39] <SilentDis> m_newton: Firestarter logs that stuff.  Plus, you can see SSH logs... let me remember where...
[05:40] <Xecuter> metalpres, flashed xbox? or xbox 360?
[05:40] <frodubuntu> it is weird because now for ex. I'm running off my live cd
[05:40] <frodubuntu> and it can see and mount my ntfs
[05:40] <frodubuntu> part
[05:40] <bing_> i need to edit a confid.xml file but it wont let me save it says i dont have permisson how can i save it
[05:40] <chlorate> If I have installed azureus where is it located in my computer? In windows I would look in "Programs Files" What is the ubuntu equivalent of that?
[05:40] <frodubuntu> but gpated doesn't show anything at all
[05:40] <metalpres> hard modded xbox 1
[05:40] <Xecuter> !sudo | bing
[05:40] <ubot3> bing: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu sudo fdisk -l show your ext3?
[05:40] <Xecuter> !sudo | bing_
[05:40] <Vlad1975> <Starnestommy how do i run -opengl?
[05:40] <ubot3> bing_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[05:40] <SilentDis> m_newton: /var/log/auth.log
 thanks
[05:41] <frodubuntu> /dev/sdb5               1        7381    59279787   83  Linux
[05:41] <frodubuntu> that is what fdisk shows when I list it
[05:41] <SilentDis> m_newton: should show you all the login attempts including CRON and such
[05:41] <Xecuter> metalpres, have you enabled anonymous sharing, or do you log in?
[05:41] <SiliconViper> I'm currently considering either Liferea or Straw for a desktop RSS aggregator. Does anyone have any experiences with either that they feel would be worth sharing?
[05:41] <Starnestommy> Vlad1975: -opengl is an option used with World of Warcraft in WINE to make it use OpenGL instead of Direct3D
[05:42] <bing_> but i can uper the file when i click save it save no permission , how can i write in terminal to save a window already open
[05:42] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: I've been googling about it but I can't seem to find too much to help
[05:42] <Vlad1975> oh i see
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu Partition recovery is always tricky
[05:42] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: I used Liferea until i switched to Kubuntu, then i just started using Akregigator
[05:42] <frodubuntu> yeah,
[05:43] <frodubuntu> I suppose that is why they stress so much data backup
[05:43] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: Liferea was very easy to use and did an excellent job.
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu ONe sec while I re-read your problem
[05:43] <chlorate> Where are my installed files located on ubuntu? Like where can I see these folders?
[05:43] <Vlad1975> So its safe to say that if i purchase any games i have to check that it has an open GL option available or it runs on linux
[05:43] <Starnestommy> chlorate: it depends on the package installed.
[05:43] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: np, and really, thank you
[05:43] <Xecuter> bing_, you cant, you must open the file as root and then save
[05:43] <hchufeng> hello ,does any one who can help me ?My chm documents can't read!
[05:43] <Starnestommy> chlorate: to find out which files a package has installed, use dpkg -L <package-name>
[05:43] <chlorate> Starnestommy: Let's say if I installed azureus, where would it be?
[05:43] <SiliconViper> SilentDis, thank you. Ease of use is always a good thing. Do you know how it copes with large numbers of feeds?
[05:44] <coagent> Can anyone help me with DDNS?
[05:44] <imaginativeone> hey everyone...
[05:44] <astro76> hchufeng: install gnochm
[05:44] <SilentDis> Vlad1975: 99% of OpenGL games work great under linux.  80% of DirectX 7 and older games work fine as well.  After DX7, you need a shim like Cedega to get it going well.  I know SWG worked fine under Cedega, if that helps.
[05:44] <Starnestommy> Vlad1975: check for a linux version, or check in http://appdb.winehq.org/
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu can you manually mount that ext3
[05:44] <Xecuter> hchufeng, gnochm
[05:44] <hchufeng> astro76 just do it last night ,but it can't support chinese
[05:45] <Rayvis> I have been having trouble getting my microphone to work in Ubuntu 8.04. I've follwed various giudes to fix it but nothing works. I've also noticed that I don't have options in volume control other users have, and I've checked all the boxes to have them all. Anyone have any advice?
[05:45] <Vlad1975> thanx
[05:45] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: I've tryed
[05:45] <SiliconViper> coagent, DDNS? Whatcha need?
[05:45] <frodubuntu> but it doesn't seem to work
[05:45] <astro76> hchufeng: maybe they could help you in #ubuntu-cn
[05:45] <imaginativeone> would someone help me with k9copy on wine?
[05:45] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: I was running in the neighborhood of 30 feeds through it, same with Akrigator.  Not sure what you're looking at... but I do expire after 2 weeks, and save only older stuff marked as important.  I remember it got a bit slow when i was saving those 30 feeds for 2 months.
[05:45] <coagent> I have it working with forward maps but the rev maps are broken
[05:46] <Morph3us> Xecuter, pacman is as good as aptitude
[05:46] <Morph3us> Xecuter, ?
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo mkdir /media/dsb5                sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5           right
[05:46] <hchufeng> astro76 they told me to use kchmviewer but it can't support chm very well.
[05:46] <Xecuter> Morph3us, yea allmost, apt is the best around, but pacman is good
[05:46] <coagent> By the way I am trying to do DDNS between dhcpd and bind9 not ddns for a internet domain name
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> imaginativeone k9copy is not for wine it ins native linux
[05:47] <SiliconViper> SilentDis, I read ~1200 items a month, spread across ~95 feeds. Do you think that would be a problem?
[05:47] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: the db would fill fast lol.  I'd say expire after a week and set it to save stuff you mark as important, and you should be fine :)
[05:47] <twentyfiftyone> Ok, a new question: Is there a way to grab a program into a separate x server? (I.E. from the root x server at :0 to a vnc server running at :1)
[05:48] <SiliconViper> SilentDis, herm. How exactly does the 'DB get full'? Just slow access times, or outright breaks?
[05:48] <SilentDis> twentyfiftyone: are you talking about moving a program running in 1 x session to another?  kinda like 'screen for x' type of thing?
[05:48] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: well it mounts per say if I create say a folder called /ubuntu, \ then run
[05:48] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: just slow, takes a while to page between articles, slow startup as it reads in the DB, etc.
[05:48] <imaginativeone> oh! thanks
[05:48] <frodubuntu> sudo mount -t ext3 -f /dev/sdb5 /ubuntu
[05:48] <mohkohn> How can I share internet with my Ubuntu Hardy running iMac? I need something like this. http://www.macinstruct.com/node/118
[05:48] <twentyfiftyone> SilentDis: My original X server is in an unstable state, and I have a program running with unsaved data in it.
[05:48] <imaginativeone> would someone help me with k9copy?
[05:49] <stace> hello everyone
[05:49] <ubuntunew]> can someone pls gtive me a few mins and help me get my laptop with ubuntu on the net
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu I would save a copy of your /home before doing anything else
[05:49] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow:  butt when I go to the folder it is blank
[05:49] <frodubuntu> hahaha
[05:49] <frodubuntu> yeah
[05:49] <frodubuntu> I would have too
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu did you try it my way?
[05:49] <frodubuntu> :P
[05:49] <twentyfiftyone> SilentDis: So I want to shunt it into a stable X server so I can save it, :P
[05:49] <imaginativeone> my k9copy isn't finding my dvd writer
[05:49] <mohkohn> using the same machine with OSX and XP internet sharing is easy so I think I must be missing something obvious.
[05:49] <SilentDis> twentyfiftyone: is that machine running VNC so you can at least get into it and safe close?  if not... I've not tried to retrieve 'dead' X windows, but i know you can't pull 'em over via SSH (i've tried, trust me lol)
[05:49] <Tazbobu> My smplayer is broken.. it plays audio but no video shows since update to newest distro
[05:49] <mohkohn> a bit more info here
[05:49] <SiliconViper> SilentDis, I see. That could be a problem. I've marked ~400 articles as worth keeping in the last month.
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> imaginativeone Will it read and rip the dvd though
[05:50] <twentyfiftyone> I've got access to the console, plus access to another machine on the network.
[05:50] <Rayvis> Would anyone be able to help me get my microphone to work in Ubuntu 8.04?
[05:50] <Xecuter> Rayvis, turned up the volume in volume manager?
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Rayvis /join #alsa
[05:50] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: 400 is no problem, I think liferea started having issue when it hit about the 3000 mark or so.  I've noticed no slowdowns, myself, with akrigator, and nothing says you gotta run a gnome app... lol
[05:50] <imaginativeone> Jack Sparrow: perhaps, but how can it do that?
[05:51] <imaginativeone> if it can't find the hardware?
[05:51] <gotama> Hi! I've installed kdm and gdm. How can I know which of them is the current display manager? How to switch between them?
[05:51] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: was your way to just create the folder and type  'mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt' or whatever place we are mount it to?
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> imaginativeone Reading is different that writing.. which is why I asked
[05:51] <SiliconViper> coagent, sounds a bit more complicated than I'd be able to help with, sorry. For most cases like that, I just use ddclient.
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo mkdir /media/dsb5                sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5           right
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | Rayvis
[05:52] <ubot3> Rayvis: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:52] <eric> installing ubuntu-restricted-extras I now have java working in my 64bit browser (whoo hoo!) but I get an interesting problem when trying to play Jagex games. I am redirected to a page claiming no suitable place can be found to write cache files
[05:52] <SiliconViper> SilentDis, absolutely. I'm open to any RSS app, those were just the main ones I was considering.
[05:52] <eric> I found this peculiar, and it was not an issue in the 32 bit browser
[05:52] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: as of right now... message store on akgrigator for me is probably somewhere around 4000 lol
[05:52] <frodubuntu> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:52] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: mount: I guet you must specify the filesystem type
[05:52] <eric> any sort of ideas on where java would try to put temporary cache files? or does firefox take responsibility of that?
[05:52] <imaginativeone> Jack Sparrow: ah.  no reading...don't know about writing (yet)
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu INteresting it cant figure it out
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu You are sure it is ext3 right?
[05:53] <mohkohn> I have update this to show /etc/network interfaces
[05:53] <frodubuntu> I'm not
[05:53] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow:  It is whatever ubuntu 8.04 creates
[05:53] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: so it won't look perfectly integrated.  akregator sure gets the job done for me.  I'd say try 2 or 3 of 'em for a week or so, and see which you like best.  I last ran gnome and liferea back in 6.06, i have to assume they've made strides in their handling of large message stores :)
[05:54] <frodubuntu> the story is that I was trying to clone my hd
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu If it is default then ext3
[05:54] <hchufeng> how to share my document with windows user ,the sabam has been installed
[05:54] <frodubuntu> yeah well that is what I thought
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu in the future use dd command
[05:54] <bing_> omg that was easy just type sudo before the gedit thanks guys
[05:54] <SiliconViper> SilentDis, good stuff. That should scale well to what I'm looking for. I just don't want to start using something, have all my feeds in, good articles marked, etc, and then 4 months in find out that the app isn't scaling well, and there's no easy way to export my 'marked' articles.
[05:54] <mohkohn> Both Vista and my ubuntu laptop can "see" the iMac (running hardy) and connect but no internet
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu one more sec..  let me see how to force mount to ext3
[05:55] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: I was trying to clone my hd, so I set off to clone it and I realized that the hard drive was just 1 gig over the dest, so I resized the ntfs, and that messed the ext3
[05:55] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: totally understandable :)  sorry i don't have more info on how liferea is working now though.  As i said, in your case, i'd still try running a couple in paralell, just to be sure it'll work for your needs
[05:55] <SiliconViper> SilentDis, the only objection I have to using a Qt app is loading yet another library into memory. ;p A tiny concern, but no sense being wasteful if I don't gain a functional advantage.
[05:56] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: lol just like me.  2gb memory here, i'd rather see it go to disk cache when i can lol
[05:56] <gotama> The login screen is giving me a lot of problems. How can I change the login screen resolution?
[05:56] <SiliconViper> SilentDis, yeppers. It's not that I lack the resources, just that being wasteful is a bad habit to get into. ;p
[05:57] <SilentDis> SiliconViper: totally agreed :)  I'd like to try to trim my MP3 files for the same reason lol
[05:57] <m-c> gotama: you know you can set it to automatically log you in, with no login screen
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu I am going to take a shot and try this..sudo mkdir /media/sdb5     then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 -o force
[05:58] <gotama> I have several users in the same pc.
[05:58] <mohkohn> Is there anything in the Network Administration tool in System > Administration that I am missing that allows internet sharing?
[05:59] <Frogzoo> mohkohn: nope, learn to use iptables, it's not straightforward, but google for howtos
[05:59] <samuel> Has anyone used Adobe Photoshop CS2 with wine? I heard that all the games with Game Guard doesn't work on it because game guard is installed like a driver, so I'm kinda questioning adobe.
[05:59] <Nikunj93> how to uninstall ubuntu and change ext3 to NTFs
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> mohkohn Read up on firestarter
[05:59] <twentyfiftyone> SilentDis: Ok, I have a vnc server going on the semi-crashed machine. Any way to yank a running process to the vnc server?
[06:00] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow:  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 -o force
[06:00] <Flannel> Nikunj93: Just take your favorite partition editor in windows and reformat your ubuntu partitions
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Nikunj93 no need, just format with your windows tools to ntfs
[06:00] <Zack1403> does anyone know how to allow regular users to open ports < 1024?
[06:00] <mohkohn> I have Firestarter
[06:00] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow:  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb5,
[06:00] <gotama> When logout i just recieve a black screen. whit the message resolution not supported. Any Ideas?
[06:00] <mohkohn> Why is this so hard in 2008
[06:00] <Xecuter> Zack1403, do you have a firewall?
[06:00] <Nikunj93> which tool to use?
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu Sorry buddy...  you may be out of luck
[06:00] <Zack1403> Xecuter: nope
[06:00] <Nikunj93> do i have to do it through windows xp loaded?
[06:00] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow:  missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[06:00] <Zack1403> Xecuter: at least no custom one
[06:00] <Xecuter> Zack1403, then what port do you need to open?
[06:00] <radius_> i need help, when i go to youtube on firefox the videos wont play...id really like to fix this, im running ubuntu ultimate 1.8 x64
[06:01] <SilentDis> twentyfiftyone: not that i know of.  you'd be looking to revive a dead x windows app, but i have no idea how to do it :(
[06:01] <Flannel> Nikunj93: Not if you have like a Partition Manager CD
[06:01] <Flannel> Nikunj93: er, Partition Magic
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Nikunj93 no, you can run gparted livecd or gparted on the ubuntu livecd
[06:01] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: well friend, thanks for your help, I think I found something while googling
 did you get answer on firestarter
[06:01] <Zack1403> Xecuter: smtp port
[06:01] <frodubuntu> it is something about "TestDisk"
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> frodubuntu good luck
[06:01] <Zack1403> Xecuter: which is 25
[06:01] <SilentDis> mac_: no, not really.  i keep looking through the options, but i must be missing something.
[06:01] <frodubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: I think I'll check it out
[06:02] <frodubuntu> chanel thank you all, I'll be distracted for a bit, but I'll let you know the results
[06:02] <Nikunj93> how can i use the GPARTED? using the live cd?
[06:02] <Xecuter> Zack1403, are you running a server on that port?
[06:02] <Zack1403> Xecuter: telnet localhost 25 gets refused so i know its not open
[06:02] <m__newton> someone took m_newton... why?
[06:02] <twentyfiftyone> SilentDis: Well, X is still running, sort of. It's only half-crashed. :) Thanks for your help, though.
[06:02] <SilentDis> mac_: my temporary solution is just to pull down firestarter when i wanna use chat over on the lappy.  not ideal. :P
[06:02] <Zack1403> Xecuter: an app im developing is looking to
 when i close the window of firestarter , does it stop working??
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Nikunj93 system..admin.. partition editor
[06:03] <SilentDis> twentyfiftyone: yep.  I've got a ton of windows up, or i'd google for ya, i'd say search for 'reviving dead x windows application' and you might turn up something
[06:03] <Xecuter> Zack1403, if the server is running correctly you dont have to open any ports
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> m__newton no the tables are still in place
[06:03] <Xecuter> Zack1403, i think :P
[06:03] <Nikunj93> thanks jack
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:03] <Zack1403> Xecuter: well i guess I ended up on that issue because java is throwing a permission denied error when the server is trying to start
[06:04] <twentyfiftyone> SilentDis: I'm exploring other avenues. :) Worst case, I lose an hours work and a semi-nifty gimped image.
[06:04] <Xecuter> Zack1403, sudo?
 then why does the icon on the taskbar go away?
[06:04] <Xecuter> Zack1403, run nmap at yourself...
[06:04] <Zack1403> Xecuter: I would really like to not have test code running as root
[06:04] <Zack1403> ill try
[06:05] <Xecuter> Zack1403, hehe
[06:05] <SilentDis> m__newton: here's how it goes.  I have firestarter stopped right now.  I can ssh in, tunnel my xwindows over, etc. now, lets say EVDO goes down (it hapens) and i restart it, firestarter comes back on automatically, and cuts off SSH access.
[06:05] <Xecuter> Zack1403, if the server is running correctly you don't have to open any ports... i never have...
[06:06] <Zack1403> yea just ipp, mysql and http-proxy
[06:06] <m__newton> what is EVDO?
[06:06] <Nikunj93> jack_sparrow: in gparted when i click on delete partition it says Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 6
 what is EVDO
[06:06] <the_mak> ntfs is not mounting automatic...every time i have to mount it manually...please tell me how to make it so that it mount ntfs automatic when i boot.
[06:07] <Zack1403> Xecuter: im going off this mainly http://saloon.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000412
[06:07] <SilentDis> m__newton: basically internet access over Cellphone.  I plug my cellphone into my PC, and i've got a DSL line, basically
[06:07] <jacob5> heya
[06:07] <Zack1403> Xecuter: it is an old thread though, you think its not related to ubuntu at all?
[06:07] <mytruehero> Hello - How can I restart my Ubuntu server every night using a cron job? I tried simply adding a "reboot" command to root's crontab, but it didn't seem to work.
[06:07] <jacob5> can pidgin be used to im over the lan like windows messenger
[06:08] <jacob5> what should i use as the protocol?
[06:08] <Zack1403> jacob5: you can im in windows messenger without a sn?
[06:08] <jacob5> Zack1403: no we need a screen name
[06:08] <frodubuntu> chanel I don't know if you guys remember me, but I was having trouble recovering my linux partition, I've found an excellent tool
[06:08] <jacob5> I saying in the corporate environment
[06:08] <frodubuntu> called test disk
[06:09] <Nikunj93> when i am creating a partion NTFS what shall i select Logical or primary?
[06:09] <Zack1403> jacob5: you look at jabber server?
[06:09] <jacob5> no
[06:09] <Zack1403> good for corporate messaging
 cool i want to do that
[06:09] <jacob5> Zack1403: We can chat in windows messenger using our corporate email id right ?
[06:09] <Xecuter> Zack1403, no im afraid im not much help... since i dont know java... but i should think that if a server is running correctly, then the port should be open...
[06:09] <jacob5> I am asking we can do that in pidgin
[06:10] <frodubuntu> did Jack_Sparrow leave?
[06:10] <frodubuntu> apparently yes
[06:10] <m__newton> Queston to all: Is there a way to run TOR/Vidalia on Hardy Heron???
[06:10] <Zack1403> Xecuter: hmm actually a key troubleshooting step i missed is actually trying to run it as sudo
[06:10] <SilentDis> m__newton: I will recommend Alltel as your service, and get a Motorola Razr V3m phone.  works GREAT, linux detected it without issue right out of box :)
[06:10] <Nikunj93> frodubuntu: yes he has left
[06:10] <Zack1403> Xecuter: one sec :)
[06:10] <jacob5> m__newton: you can use tor
[06:10] <frodubuntu> ok Nikunj93
 how?
[06:10] <frodubuntu> thanks thanks for the info
[06:11] <Zack1403> jacob5: you wouldnt be able to through messenger but why would you want to? You can use trillian for windows or pidgen in linux
[06:11] <Xecuter> !google | m__newton,
[06:11] <ubot3> m__newton,: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[06:11] <raghav> hello
[06:11] <raghav> ppl
[06:11] <jacob5> HI raghav
[06:11] <hydei315> hello
[06:11] <Xecuter> m__newton, the first thing i found in google seems to be relevant...
[06:11] <raghav> help me to spped up my boot time its very slow
[06:11] <gerald> hi
[06:11] <hydei315> I have KDE 3.5
[06:11] <raghav> i have gnome in ubuntu
[06:12] <Xecuter> raghav, i think theres a program called boot manager that allows you to tweak your boot prosess
[06:12] <jacob5> raghav: remove unused services at boot up
[06:12] <hydei315> :) I install KDE 4 or xFcE
[06:12] <raghav> where to remove
 what was your search
[06:12] <raghav> how to remove
[06:12] <m__newton> <Xecuter does Tor need to use wine?
[06:12] <Xecuter> m__newton, what you wrote :P  TOR/Vidalia on Hardy Heron
[06:12] <SilentDis> hydei315: I'm finding KDE4 is just not quite 'there' yet myself.  Still working in 3.5.9 mainly here.
[06:12] <Xecuter> m__newton, i dunno, i just googled :P
[06:12] <jacob5> m__newton: no
[06:12] <raghav> pls help
[06:13] <jacob5> you don`t need wine
[06:13] <jacob5> tor is available for linux
[06:13] <jacob5> did you check synaptic if its has tor
[06:13] <the_mak> why i'm have to mount ntfs every time i boot???
[06:14] <raghav> do u know how to remove unused services at startup
[06:14] <Zack1403> Xecuter: yea that was definitly it, starting it up as root starts the server.  For obvious reasons this is pretty much impossible.  So do you know a way to allow users to open up the SMTP port?
[06:15] <frodubuntu> codecain isn't here either apparently
[06:15] <frodubuntu> man, I am sooo happy I was able to recover that linux part
[06:15] <Xecuter> Zack1403, no, and somehow i think its made not to allow users to do that... but if you search around you might find a solution...
[06:15] <amirman84> hi, i'm using gnome / compiz / and emerald all on ubuntu, does anyone know why my windows automatically minimize after a period of inactivity and how i can turn that off?
[06:16] <frodubuntu> hm..
[06:16] <m-c> raghav: System -> Admin -> Services
[06:17] <Zack1403> Xecuter: thanks anyways for the help.  Anyone know if its even possible to allow regular users to open up the SMTP port (or any under 1024 for that matter)
[06:18] <godkas> anyone tried switching to gnome on kubuntu?
[06:19] <htmljunkie> ya
[06:19] <htmljunkie> its easy
[06:19] <imaginativeone> after I save my file with DVD Shrink...then what?
[06:19] <godkas> i apt-get install gnome
[06:19] <godkas> :)
 tor, i got the package
[06:19] <amirman84> godkas: he wants to switch, not just add it
 how do i run it without vidalia
[06:20] <godkas> amirman84 i is he
[06:20] <amirman84> godkas: i just realized that the "he" i was talking about is you
[06:20] <godkas> lol
[06:20] <amirman84> haha
[06:20] <imaginativeone> after I save my file with DVD Shrink...then what?
[06:20] <godkas> well to switch dont i add it and set it default?
[06:20] <Xecuter> Zack1403, just a thought, where is you server located? on the computer that is...
[06:20] <amirman84> godkas: i did that once and it gets messy because the desktop packages also come with all the default apps
[06:20] <Zack1403> Xecuter: my home directory
[06:20] <godkas> any way to properly switch whilist saving my info?
[06:20] <Xecuter> Zack1403, okey...
[06:21] <imaginativeone> can someone help?
[06:21] <godkas> and then wouldnt it technically be ubuntu proper?
[06:21] <Xecuter> Zack1403, and why don't you want to run it as root?
[06:21] <frodubuntu> imaginativeone: state your issue
[06:21] <amirman84> godkas: it'll save all your info, but i'm pretty sure there's a command that installs one desktop and at the same time removes the one you have
[06:21] <godkas> hmmmm
[06:21] <imaginativeone> once I rip my dvd, do I just copy it to a blank?
[06:22] <amirman84> ﻿hi, i'm using gnome / compiz / and emerald all on ubuntu, does anyone know why my windows automatically minimize after a period of inactivity and how i can turn that off?
[06:22] <imaginativeone> that's my issue...I would like to know what to do next
[06:22] <Zack1403> Xecuter: well i guess I dont like the thought of my testing code having full rain over my system, but I guess I will have to run it as root on my server
[06:22] <godkas> see i dont particularly like gnome but id like to be able to restart x without restarting my comp
[06:22] <frodubuntu> imaginativeone:  hm.. are you trying to backup a dvd onto the computer or escentially clone your disk?
[06:22] <imaginativeone> frodubuntu: the latter
[06:23] <imaginativeone> cloning the disk
[06:23] <Ahadiel_> godkas, CTRL + ALT + Backspace restarts X
[06:23] <frodubuntu> imaginativeone: well yes, usually you would make a backup of the disk first and then burn that backup onto another disk
[06:23] <godkas> .... thanks.. thatll lock up my comp
[06:23] <frodubuntu> you can create an image of the disk
[06:24] <imaginativeone> is creating the image a superior technique?
[06:24] <frodubuntu> imaginativeone: or if you have two units (a dvd reader and a dvd burner or two burners)
[06:24] <egeste> Please assist: my audio works in all applications except flash in firefox
[06:24] <Nikunj93> Im in a great Problem I formatted the drive in which ubuntu was there and there are other 2 partitions which has windows but the pc isnt booting the grub isnt loding its sayin error 17
[06:24] <frodubuntu> imaginativeone: you could create a copy "on the fly"
[06:24] <Nikunj93> ﻿how to boot in windows now?
[06:24] <frodubuntu> Nikunj93: hahaha I just had the same issue
[06:24] <frodubuntu> only I didn't format it
[06:24] <m_newton> i am back, to m_newton
[06:25] <m_newton> how do i put a ppd on this again?
[06:25] <m_newton> how do i put a passwd on this again?
[06:25] <frodubuntu> Nikunj93:  ok, do you know if you did a low level format or a quick format?
[06:25] <egeste> Please assist: my audio works in all applications except flash in firefox
[06:25] <Nikunj93> ﻿frodubuntu: dunno i just used Gparted and cliked on format
[06:25] <Nikunj93> into NTFS
[06:26] <Xecuter> egeste, try killing pulseaudio
[06:26] <godkas> Man i wanna play a video game...
[06:26] <frodubuntu> ok
[06:26] <egeste> xecuter, please advise on how to do this
[06:26] <godkas> @_@
[06:26] <zachalink> hi, I am currently getting issues in flash. there is no sound whatsoever and it always pauses and doesn't countinue and I don't hit pause either.
[06:26] <Xecuter> egeste, in a terminal, type 'killall pulseaudio'
[06:26] <zachalink> If someone could shed some light on this situation and help me out, that'll be much appreciated. =]
[06:26] <frodubuntu> Nikunj93: well I was able to fix my issue with a utility called test disk
[06:26] <zachalink> *adobe flash in firefox 3 beta 5
[06:27] <loller> somebody to help me http://pastebin.ca/1035623 ?
[06:27] <Nikunj93> how to use it? i can only use ubuntu live cd
[06:27] <usser> zachalink, egeste sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[06:27] <frodubuntu> Nikunj93: I got it from http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[06:27] <zachalink> what about the random pausing issue
[06:27] <frodubuntu> Nikunj93: yeah, me too, I got it from my live cd
[06:27] <zachalink> the videos always pause.
[06:28] <frodubuntu> Nikunj93: I'm messaging you in the private
[06:28] <chris420> howdey people i have a scan error in nmap i was wondering if you could help me with...  it says that rpcinfo.nse is not a script
[06:29] <godkas> -=touches linux and suddenly it has full video acceleration support
[06:29] <godkas> i wish...
[06:29] <m_newton> TOR help please? HOW do i change my ip?
[06:29] <zachalink> usser: E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[06:29] <loller> somebody to help me http://pastebin.ca/1035623 ?
[06:29] <Starnestommy> m_newton: you'll need to wait for tor to automatically switch noded
[06:30] <Starnestommy> *nodes
 how long, is there a way to force , i need something like vidalia
[06:30] <Starnestommy> m_newton: I think it's 10 minutes
My isp hates me
[06:30] <usser> zachalink, egeste oh my bad sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[06:31] <usser> zachalink, the package got renamed i forgot about it
[06:31] <raghav> ya
[06:31] <raghav> thank u ppl got it
[06:31] <zachalink> usser: thank you
[06:31] <raghav> now do u know how to run fifa 07 in ubuntu
[06:31] <raghav> ??
[06:31] <raghav> pls??
3 attempts reported by firestarter in the last 5 mins!
[06:31] <godkas> bwahaahaha linux video game support strikes again
[06:31] <Starnestommy> m_newton: stuff that goes through tor needs to go through your ISP as well
[06:32] <raghav> do u know how to install fifa on my ubuntu
[06:32] <Starnestommy> raghav: wine
[06:32] <chris420> ummm okay
[06:32] <godkas> unfortunately...
[06:32] <godkas> :/
[06:32] <TooR4u> srikanth@117:~$ gdesklets &
[06:32] <TooR4u> [1] 17944
[06:32] <TooR4u> srikanth@117:~$ Starting gdesklets-daemon...
[06:32] <TooR4u> Cannot establish connection to daemon: timeout!
[06:32] <TooR4u> The log file might help you solving the problem.
[06:32] <FloodBot3> TooR4u: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
...? no, no, nooooooooo. So even with tor..
[06:32] <godkas> I cant get that program to work for the life of me
[06:32] <raghav> ya i have wine but its not install saying that the dll file cannot be found
[06:32] <godkas> for source at least
[06:33] <chris__420> anybody in here use nmap?
[06:33] <TooR4u> what might be the problem ..?
[06:33] <raghav> ??
[06:33] <Starnestommy> raghav: what is the full error?
[06:33] <jcase> safari for linux????
[06:33] <Starnestommy> chris__420: I sometimes use it
[06:33] <m_newton> bedtime bye to all
[06:33] <godkas> is there a retardedly huge list of dependencies i can find somewhere that helps me do everything?
[06:33] <raghav> its saying the neeeded dll file is not found for installation
[06:33] <Starnestommy> raghav: which dll?
[06:34] <chris__420> starne i have google the rpcinfo.nes script as i keep getting that it is not a script but have found no solution
[06:34] <flobbo> hey people, I have a severe issue with the 173 nvidia drivers. With the default config my x server dies and when I fiddle with the xorg.conf I can get one of my screens working but the nvidia settings refuses to work.
[06:35] <raghav> ya its installling
[06:35] <flobbo> I have probably every error and failure listed in all the forums happening at once, I have been trying to fix this for hours but nothing works.
[06:35] <Starnestommy> chris__420: I've never heard of that script
[06:35] <yupperz> Ubuntu rulez the world kekek kakaka!
[06:36] <chris__420>  starnestommy have you run into this and or found a way to fix it?
[06:36] <flobbo> how do I get rid of these shitty 173 drivers and go back to 169 that come from synaptic? help, please.
[06:36] <amrik> Hi I have a fairly weak machine 1.6Ghz centrino with 1gig of RAM and I want to run ubuntu in a virtual machine. however its quite slow, is there any way to pare it down to make it faster?
[06:36] <chris__420> hmmmmmm well then i guess i really don't have anything to worry about then lol
[06:36] <amrik> flobbo: if you download 169.12 run package from nvidia it will offer to replace them for you again
[06:36] <Starnestommy> solid_liq: don't do that!
[06:37] <flobbo> amrik: thanks dude. This is a nightmare, I thought new drivers were supposed to make it better and not totally screw up your system.
[06:37] <amrik> flobbo: they actually work better for me. =\ to each system their own i suppose. i hope you arent using glxgears to benchmark
[06:38] <zachalink> usser: that didn't fix anything. not the sound, and not the pausing thing.
[06:38] <flobbo> amrik: glxgears?
[06:39] <amrik> flobbo: its a simple program that tests to see if your opengl acceleration is working. some people think its a useful benchmark but its not
[06:40] <flobbo> amrik: I can only dream of benchmarks, I am running 800x600 cuz my cards aren't being detected as well as my monitors and I can only get a decent resolution once I manually change the xorg.conf file to say nv instead of nvidia in the driver section.
[06:40] <usser> zachalink, hm that usually solves the issues, did u restart firefox, try killall pulseaudio && pulseaudio &
[06:40] <usser> zachalink, the pausing thing is because of the sound
[06:40] <zachalink> oh
[06:40] <zachalink> I'll try restarting Firefox.
[06:41] <zachalink> usser: do I do killall pulseaudio && pulseaudio & in terminal?
[06:41] <usser> zachalink, yea
[06:41] <amrik> flobbo: wait what card are you using?
[06:42] <raghav> how to run the program fifa 07 i installed it in my documents in wine
[06:42] <Carbonflux> flobbo, you can try using nvidia-settings or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, the gui stuff is not detecting things correctly and can't be trusted right now.
[06:42] <zero> hey, how do you run Dual Monitors with 8.04?
[06:42] <raghav> how to run the program fifa 07 i installed it in my documents in wine\
[06:42] <Guest86330> its cloned
[06:42] <Guest86330> hey, how do you run Dual Monitors with 8.04?
[06:42] <flobbo> amrik: 7900GTX and 8600 GTS. Worked great before I installed the new drivers.
[06:43] <Guest86330> and its running a way hi resolution
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Guest86330,  with nvidia cards. I configure twinview with the 2 nvidia config tools that are in the repos.
[06:43] <flobbo> Carbonflux: dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do anything and nvidia-settings keeps telling me I am not using the nvidia driver.
[06:43] <raghav> pls help me
[06:43] <amrik> flobbo: alright good luck with the old drivers
[06:43] <raghav> ??//////////
[06:43] <Guest86330> Dr_willis, what is twinview
[06:43] <Starnestommy> raghav: what happens when you run it from there?
[06:43] <amrik> raghav: cant you just run wine [location of executable]
[06:43] <Carbonflux> flobbo, you have to use the nvidia driver for nvidia-settings to work clearly :)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Guest86330, its a feature of the Nvidia Drivers that allow configuration of more then 1 monitor.
[06:44] <wers> what do you prefer, virtualbox or vmware and why?
[06:44] <amrik> Dr_willis: is TwinView necessary to have more than one monitor on nvidia cards?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Guest86330,  the nvidia web site has a detailed readme on it.  It allows extra featrues over the xinerama
[06:44] <Starnestommy> !poll | wers
[06:44] <ubot3> wers: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> amrik,  it allows better controll.
[06:44] <raghav> ok
[06:44] <flobbo> Carbonflux: yup, got them installed, have them in the xorg.conf, nvidia-settings tells me no go.
[06:44] <Carbonflux> flobbo, I might have spelled it wrong, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the right one
[06:44] <Dr_willis> amrik,  Twinview supercedes Xinerama i belive one can say.
[06:44] <Guest86330> Dr_willis, can you link me?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Guest86330,  nope.   go to nvidia.com and look i guess. :)
[06:45] <amrik> Dr_willis: oh I see
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:45] <ubot3> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !twinview
[06:45] <ubot3> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:45] <Carbonflux> you have to restart x flobbo relog or something, "nvidia" is the name, not "nv"
[06:45] <flobbo> Carbonflux: yes, I read about that in a forum but it didn't fix my problem, just asked me about my keyboard settings lol
[06:45] <amrik> !DualHead
[06:45] <ubot3> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:45] <zachalink> usser: what was that one pulsesound command again?
[06:45] <wers> oh sorry. how can you help me choose between virtualbox and vmware? what factors do i consider?
[06:45] <Carbonflux> flobbo, yes, most of the time the defaults work fine
[06:45] <amrik> wers: one costs money and the other doesnt. I use vmware because I got it for free from work
[06:45] <usser> wers, i prefer virtualbox, vmware is proprietary and it took them almost a month to get their stuff working on hardy kernel whilst virtualbox worked right away
[06:45] <job_> also Nvidia read me file
[06:46] <flobbo> Carbonflux: when I have nvidia in the xorg.conf my x server crashes and goes back to 800x600 using vesa driver. lol
[06:46] <usser> zachalink, killall pulseaudio && pulseaudio &
[06:46] <Dr_willis> wers,  both are free in the low end versions.. so try them both?  i find some os's work better in one, then the other. -
[06:46] <amrik> wers: also I have it working on 2.6.25.4 kernel, so don't listen to people who say it won't work on hardy kernels or whatever
[06:46] <wers> okay. thank you amrik, usser and Dr_willis
[06:46] <zachalink> usser: Error opening PCM device hw:0: Device or resource busy
[06:46] <Dr_willis> the new beta of vmware has some neat features.. but i cant figure out how to actually USE it. :)
[06:47] <zachalink> usser: E: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: "device_id=0 sink_name=alsa_output.pci_10de_3f0_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0"): initialization failed.
[06:47] <wers> havent tried vitrualization ever so i had no idea. thanks guys. i'll go for virtualbox
[06:47] <zachalink> ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL front:0
[06:47] <amrik> zachalink: that sounds like a question for #pulseaudio
[06:47] <flobbo> well, thanks anyways, gonna try and get rid of these drivers, what a nightmare.
[06:47] <usser> zachalink, hm last two errors are fine
[06:47] <flobbo> bye.
[06:47] <raghav> how to connect my moto yuva to system i have kandy and kmobile tools in gnome
[06:47] <raghav> my mobile is w230
[06:47] <zachalink> usser: they are supposed to be like that?
[06:48] <usser> zachalink, the first one is something to worry about, quit all applications that use sound
[06:48] <Carbonflux> flobbo, ya I don't have enough information to help I guess, I am using a 7800 on this machine with dual monitors etc and the newist driver
[06:48] <wers> btw, I have a relatively slow laptop. 1.5ghz celeron M and 512MB ram. would it be enough to run XP on Virtualbox?
[06:48] <zachalink> usser: I have no applications open that use sound.
[06:48] <zachalink> at the moment.
[06:48] <Starnestommy> wers: most likely now
[06:48] <Starnestommy> *not
[06:48] <usser> zachalink, try to restart
[06:48] <amrik> wers: yes, but uh your in for some pain
[06:49] <zachalink> ubuntu?
[06:49] <amrik> Hi I have a fairly weak machine 1.6Ghz centrino with 1gig of RAM and I want to run ubuntu in a virtual machine. however its quite slow, is there any way to pare it down to make it faster?
[06:49] <usser> wers, run 2000 if u can get your hands on it
[06:49] <wers> all I want is to run my SonyEricsson PC suite. what do you think is the best way to do it (other than dual booting)?
[06:49] <usser> wers, what does this suite actually do?
[06:50] <SirAlexander> Is this the line to get a Big Mac?
[06:50] <wers> usser, sync my PIM
[06:51] <usser> wers, hm... yea thats tricky on linux
[06:51] <SiliconViper> Huh, so just IMPORTING my 93 subscribed feeds caused Liferea's startup times to plummet. That's not a good sign...
[06:51] <mojo> hello everyone, what do you think if we vote to remove obsolete pixmaps icons in /usr/share/pixmaps? Some geek developers argue they wont remove it simply because they love to use it even though somes are so so so outdated
[06:52] <SirAlexander> I vote for a soda machine in every hallway.
[06:52] <SiliconViper> mojo, update them!
[06:52] <wers> usser, yeah. running the SE PC suite on windows would be the best idea.I'm going to install some tweaked windows XP "lite" designed for the EEE PC. would that work  well enough on my machine?
[06:52] <SiliconViper> mojo, are you proposing a per-pixmap vote, or a general vote?
[06:52] <mojo> it is VERY HARD to convince gnome-developers to remove those icons from gnome-desktop-data package, I think I will create a poll in the forums
[06:53] <SiliconViper> What benefit do we gain by removing them?
[06:53] <SiliconViper> Less files on disk?
[06:53] <mojo> yes
[06:53] <mojo> and make things more consistent
[06:53] <SiliconViper> Any other gains?
[06:53] <SirAlexander> How much room do they actually take up
[06:53] <mojo> around 5MB
[06:54] <AaronH> mojo, its nice to have the variety, not like 5mb of icons hurts anyone....
[06:54] <SiliconViper> Consistency I'm a fan of. Files on disk, small but useful gain. I'm sure if you're meeting resistance from the devs, these trivial gains aren't going to be enough to swing the vote in favour of removal.
[06:54] <mojo> the pixmaps icons is used to be the icons for apps, now every apps ships their own icons in /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[06:54] <mojo> so there is no point keeping them
[06:55] <yaris12346789> hello guys i just installed xubuntu, and networking does not work....before during install it said it could not find dcp or something like that....please help
[06:55] <SiliconViper> Could always split them into a gnome-desktop-data-obsolete-pixmaps package, no? Make them optional, get the benefits of both worlds?
[06:55] <amrik> yaris12346789: you might need to register your MAC address if you are on a college or work network
[06:55] <Xecuter> yaris12346789, then how are you typing here?
[06:55] <yaris12346789> i am at home
[06:55] <yaris12346789> i am using my note book
[06:55] <yaris12346789> i installed xubuntu on desktop
[06:56] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: is the desktop wired or wireless?
[06:56] <pawan> hi
[06:56] <yaris12346789> wired
[06:56] <pawan> cant use higher resolutions on nvidia 5200
[06:56] <yaris12346789> i skipped the network setup because during install it couldn't find dcp
[06:56] <yaris12346789> d something
[06:56] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: dhcp?
[06:56] <yaris12346789> yes
[06:57] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: is it behind a router?
[06:57] <yaris12346789> Starnestommy: yes
[06:57] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: and is it connected to the router by an ethernet cable?
[06:57] <Xecuter> yaris12346789, have you set the ethernet card to recieve dhcp?
[06:57] <theFATMAN> how do i shut a program down via the terminal?
[06:57] <yaris12346789> Starnestommy: ye
[06:57] <Xecuter> theFATMAN, killall for instance
[06:58] <bloodrock> yaris12346789, check the cable to make sure it in snugly
[06:58] <Starnestommy> theFATMAN: kill number-of-process
[06:58] <SirAlexander> killall -s 9 if you're really serious.
[06:58] <yaris12346789> bloodrock: its plugged in
[06:58] <pawan> how to install nvidia 5200 drivers through envy
[06:58] <theFATMAN> ok ok, i mean just one individual app
[06:58] <Starnestommy> yaris12346789: try running sudo dhclient eth0
[06:58] <Xecuter> yaris12346789, go to network settings and set the ethernet card to recieve from dhcp
[06:58] <SirAlexander> killall doesn't literally mean kill all.  It means you can use a process name instead of a number
[06:59] <Xecuter> lol killall ^^
[06:59] <yaris12346789> ok
[06:59] <SirAlexander> Like if you type ps -A and get the process name, like "gnome", you could then type "killall gnome" or if you were really serious, "killall -s 9 gnome"
[07:00] <bloodrock> yaris12346789,  i realize that but sometimes if you had moved machine or slot is a lil loose the plug don't get proper contact
[07:00] <amrik> theres only one thing killall cant kill... itself *cue scary music*
[07:00] <legend2440> theFATMAN: open system>admin>system monitor >processes right click process select kill
[07:01] <SirAlexander> amrik, you're forgetting something.  Killall also often can't kill... zombies!
[07:01] <Xecuter> and ghosts
[07:02] <raghav> its telling insert the correct dvd (fifa 07_
[07:02] <SirAlexander> You'd think they'd come up with a way for the kernel to kill zombied processes, like a doomsday kill command that'll just squash it no matter what.
[07:02] <alexbobp> I'm trying to create an ntfs partition in gparted, but the ntfs option is grayed out.  Is there a library package I can install to fix this?
[07:02] <yaris12346789> brb i will try some stuff
[07:02] <SirAlexander> alex, um, gf3, g3f, gs3f, something like that, I think.
[07:03] <amrik> Sir_Fawnpug: well technically you are supposed to kill the parent of the zombie since the parent wants to use the return value
[07:03] <Priest> I am trying to install Mesa 7.0.3. Which configuration is best for a 32 bit Ubuntu 8.04 distro? Linux-x86?
[07:03] <amrik> Sir_Fawnpug: and init autokills direct child zombies, so a zombie takeover wouldnt happen :)
[07:03] <SiliconViper> Priest, yes.
[07:03] <alexbobp> SirAlexander: ntfs-3g is already installed...
[07:04] <SirAlexander> I've happened across a few zombies though that had no parent.  Well, okay, except perhaps for X, you could say X was the parent because restarting that did the trick, but it's a pain to have to restart X in those situations just to take care of a zombie.
[07:04] <Priest> SiliconViper: Are you familiar with the configurations Mesa lists?
[07:04] <alexbobp> although thanks to tab completion (magic), I found ntfs-tools that looks promising
[07:04] <adminz> what is a zombie process
[07:04] <amrik> SirAlexander: I hear GNU shotgun also works pretty well, but you have to aim for the #includes
[07:04] <pjharper_> Sorry if I am reposting this. My network disconnected.
[07:04] <SiliconViper> Priest, not really, but 32-bit Ubuntu is most definitely Linux/x86
[07:04] <satokun> I'm getting a grub error code 25.  I've researched the issue and cannot figure out what's wrong.  I was able to reinstall grub but not go into rescue mode.  Where should I go from here?
[07:04] <job_> anybody knows about mediatomb?
[07:04] <SirAlexander> amrik:  I always thought you had to aim for the package
[07:05] <pjharper_> What is wrong with my dhcpcd.conf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16128/
[07:05] <udan_udin> diky
[07:05] <frodubuntu> how do I remove somebody from the ignore list?
[07:05] <frodubuntu> it says nickname*@* added to ignore list.
[07:06] <Starnestommy> frodubuntu: /unignore?
[07:06] <SirAlexander> And make me some eggs while you're at it, frodubuntu
[07:06] <Priest> SiliconViper, can you do me one favor and throw your eye over this list and make sure that would be the most optimal choice? - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16129/
[07:06] <alexbobp> SirAlexander: the ntfs-tools package did the trick, thanks
[07:06] <Dutt> I used Wubi-8.04 to install ubuntu and then booted it up. it booted no probs and asked me to update alot of stuff (gfx Driver) was one of them, then it asked me to reboot but after that i can still boot it up but i cant see anything and my screen turns off. does anyone know how i can fix this?
[07:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> armik, sorry, I wasnt payomgo attetmopam
[07:07] <SirAlexander> alexbobp:  You're welcome :).
[07:07] <alexbobp> Dutt: What graphics driver did you install?
[07:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> Err, paying attetniont
[07:08] <Dutt> im not sure but it was the right one for my card as it was auto selected and i checked it
[07:08] <alexbobp> Dutt: what card do you have?
[07:08] <frodubuntu> rats I just Nikunj93
[07:08] <Dutt> Geforce 7800 GTX
[07:09] <SiliconViper> Priest, what other options are you considering? By that list, linux-x86-32 probably sounds best.
[07:09] <alexbobp> Dutt: try this: boot to Linux, and ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a command line.  Then log in, and type "sudo nvidia-xconfig".  After that, restart your x server (or reboot your computer).
[07:09] <yaris123456789> great success im on ubuntu!
[07:09] <alexbobp> yaris123456789: You win!
[07:10] <Priest> SiliconViper, I was not considering another. I am not too familiar with what would work best. I looked down the whole list and just wanted to be sure which would be the best so I can rest assured that I've done all I can to fix any graphics issues I have.
[07:10] <frodubuntu> hey if somebody had Nikunj93 could you msg me?
[07:10] <frodubuntu> I was trying to help
[07:10] <SirAlexander> Hooray Yaris!
[07:10] <yaris123456789> im pretty shocked ubuntu is running this fast on my 195mb of ram
[07:10] <yaris123456789> but much much faster than xp
[07:10] <Dutt> alexbobp: i dont know anything about this but thanks.. will i b able to see in the command line?
[07:10] <Sir_Fawnpug> I probably shoud not be in tis channel.
[07:10] <SiliconViper> Priest, my opinion is that linux-x86-32 is the most fitting item to the description provided.
[07:11] <frodubuntu> hey did anybody have the nick Nikunj93?
[07:11] <SirAlexander> I would like to fit some chicken nuggets in my mouth.
[07:11] <Priest> yaris123456789: Ubuntu feels "empty" to me, in comparison to Windows XP, or Vista. However, I too have noticed significant increases in speed and in performance.
[07:11] <Priest> SiliconViper, thank you very, very much for your time and expertise. =)
[07:11] <yaris123456789> yes
[07:11] <gorio> how to install CUBE in Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[07:11] <alexbobp> Dutt: the command line view doesn't use your graphics drivers, it uses super-old VGA.  So it should work fine.
[07:11] <SiliconViper> frodubuntu, * [Nikunj93] (n=ubuntu@59.93.243.204): purple
[07:11] <SiliconViper>  * [Nikunj93] irc.freenode.net :Sat May 31 23:08:40 2008
[07:12] <alexbobp> Dutt: You can see the text scroll when you're booting up before it tries to run the GUI, right?
[07:12] <Flannel> gorio: install simple-ccsm and switch to cube view from pane
[07:12] <yaris123456789> Priest: it does seem to lack some goods in windows. but it does the essentials and im happy...at least i dont have to wait like i used to on windows
[07:12] <frodubuntu> SiliconViper: what does that mean?
[07:12] <Dutt> alexbobp: ok thank you..
[07:12] <SiliconViper> frodubuntu, it means yes, someone did have the nick.
[07:12] <SirAlexander> Yaris, what does it lack?  It installs with more apps than Windows does.
[07:13] <gorio> Flannel: how to instal simple ccsm, i'm new user could you help me ?
[07:13] <frodubuntu> SiliconViper: I accidentally added it to the ignore list
[07:13] <yaris123456789> oh really ?
[07:13] <SirAlexander> Oh yeah.
[07:13] <yaris123456789> okay i just gotta get used to this
[07:13] <alexbobp> Priest: what do you mean by "empty"?  Do you need software for specific purposes, or do you mean the look and feel?
[07:13] <yaris123456789> it feels like a mac
[07:13] <SiliconViper> frodubuntu, then use /unignore?
[07:13] <frodubuntu> SiliconViper:  since I'm not used to the x-chat, can you find out if Nikunj93 is still alive?
[07:13] <SirAlexander> Ubuntu installs with a bunch of apps, basically anything you'd need for your day-to-day stuff.
[07:13] <frodubuntu> yeah,
[07:13] <yaris123456789> yes
[07:13] <frodubuntu> I tyed several modes of it
[07:14] <yaris123456789> i wish i discovered linux earlier during windows 98 days
[07:14] <SirAlexander> Just stack poking around the menus and you'll see all the stuff it comes with.
[07:14] <SiliconViper> frodubuntu, /whois Nikunj93 would do that.
[07:14] <frodubuntu> I tryed /UNIGNORE Nikunj93
[07:14] <alexbobp> yaris123456789: If you are coming from Windows, you might find KDE to be more friendly than gnome.  Try "apt-get install kdebase", or if you're used to Vista, "apt-get install kde4base"
[07:14] <Flannel> gorio: Sure.  Uh, I'll actually give you a page which will explain how to install all sorts of software: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto  Just find the simple-ccsm package and install it (as per that page).  Let me know if you still have questions
[07:14] <yaris123456789> alexbobp: oh i was told kde might be too resource intensive for this old comp
[07:14] <gorio> Nice thank you
[07:14] <SirAlexander> Alex, don't confuse Yaris with another DE.  Besides, Gnome is standard for Ubuntu so it's best he just learn that.
[07:14] <bloodrock> yaris123456789,  win 98 days was not all that good as far as linux went stil to complicated then lol
[07:14] <Priest> alexbobp: I mean empty because it's much more clean. I do not mean it as an insult. In Windows there are things EVERYWHERE. Your computer feels very, very cluttered. With Ubuntu... I mean, look at it! You sit down and there's two basic panels with basic options that branch into advanced options, and there's a blank desktop that displays newly downloaded or plugged in items.
[07:15] <alexbobp> yaris123456789: what are the specs of your computer?
[07:15] <SiliconViper> frodubuntu, /exec -o echo > ~/.xchat2/ignore.conf
[07:15] <yaris123456789> intel celeron 2.4ghz 196mb ram
[07:15] <yaris123456789> 40gb hd
[07:15] <SiliconViper> frodubuntu, then reload XChat.
[07:15] <yaris123456789> integrated video card
[07:15] <Flannel> alexbobp, yaris123456789, kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-kde4-desktop, respectively.
[07:15] <SiliconViper> * minus the -o part.
[07:15] <frodubuntu>  /exec -o echo > ~/.xchat2/ignore.conf
[07:15] <alexbobp> Priest: well, I managed to make my computer plenty cluttered...  but yeah, I see what you mean
[07:15] <satokun> I'm getting a grub error 25.  I was able to reinstall grub but it had no effect.  Where should I go from here?  (Pastebin of my fdisk dump and menu.lst is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16131)
[07:15] <frodubuntu> ups sorry
[07:15] <frodubuntu> thanks man
[07:15] <yaris123456789> bloodrock: yes
[07:15] <frodubuntu> jus ta sec then
[07:15] <SiliconViper> frodubuntu, that clears your ignore list, the easy way.
[07:16] <jordan> hey guys
[07:16] <Priest> alexbobp: On Windows - where do I begin? There's stuff on the desktop, stuff on the start menu, stuff on the panels, stuff in the tray, stuff popping up, stuff flashing at you. If you plug something in you have to search and find where it installed. It's just cluttered feeling.
[07:16] <frodubuntu> I ok
[07:16] <frodubuntu> I'll be back
[07:16] <frodubuntu> SiliconViper: thanks for your help, really :D
[07:16] <SiliconViper> Priest, then the term you're looking for is 'clean', not 'empty'.
[07:17] <alexbobp> Priest: well, that's a matter of installed software.  Windows tends to get crapped up quickly, but I think that's more because of developers who think their app is so cool it HAS to be running all the time.  As much as I hate Windows, I don't think that's even Windows' fault.
[07:17] <SirAlexander> Yeah, what Silicon said.
[07:17] <yaris123456789> question: why is ubuntu free?
[07:17] <Priest> SiliconViper, No I stand by my "empty" assessment. It does feel "empty" to me.
[07:17] <SiliconViper> yaris123456789, because it can be.
[07:18] <SirAlexander> Yaris, that's partially for philisophical reasons.
[07:18] <alexbobp> Priest: fill it up then!
[07:18] <yaris123456789> interesting
[07:18] <frodubuntu> ok
[07:18] <Priest> alexbobp: I didn't mean to sound like I was attacking Windows, I apologize.
[07:18] <yaris123456789> so there is no desire to make money off ubuntu by its original authors ?
[07:18] <alexbobp> yaris123456789: because we're all communists :P
[07:18] <frodubuntu> anybody here that I was helping just now?
[07:18] <KjetilK> has anybody here been through the problem of pam_encfs breakage on hardy? As described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-encfs/+bug/205783 =
[07:18] <ubot3> Malone bug 205783 in libpam-encfs "pam-encfs fails on upgrade to Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[07:18] <frodubuntu> with a partition issue?
[07:18] <Priest> alexbobp: I do! =p It has over half the 160 gig HDD full of music.
[07:18] <alexbobp> yaris123456789: Actually, Canonical makes money selling support packages.
[07:18] <SirAlexander> They make money from support contracts, but those are purely optional.  They don't make money off of the software.
[07:18] <yaris123456789> ah i see just like red hat
[07:18] <alexbobp> Priest: I didn't take it that way, no worries
[07:19] <frodubuntu> SiliconViper: well, thanks I'm back
[07:19] <SiliconViper> yaris123456789, Ubuntu is made up of so many little pieces, all built and maintained by different people, it'd be kinda tough to sell and share the profit fairly. Soooo much management.
[07:19] <frodubuntu> I'll learn that one I guess. today hasn't ben my day
[07:19] <frodubuntu> well I'm soo thankful to ubuntu
[07:19] <alexbobp> Priest: Fill it up with tray icons.  In my trays, I have the mixer, Amarok, keyboard layout switcher, freenet, knetworkmanager, kgpg, klipper, and kwallet.
[07:19] <frodubuntu> you have no idea how much
[07:20] <yaris123456789> SiliconViper: i see interesting
[07:20] <Priest> alexbobp: Firefox, Evolution, Amarok, PlaneShift, Terminal and Xchat on mine.
[07:20] <frodubuntu> man it bugs me to have lost that person I was helping
[07:20] <SiliconViper> frodubuntu, just remember: If someone asks something that YOU can help them with, please do. They'll appreciate it as much as you do, most of the time.
[07:20] <SirAlexander> Basically, there's a bunch of Linux software out there.  Each distribution (Ubuntu, Fedora etc.) collects it all up and puts it together in their own special way, puts their stamp on it, and ship it out the door.
[07:20] <alexbobp> Priest: what's firefox doing on your tray?
[07:20] <Cyndre> Im currently developing a course outline for ubuntu - and going to offer a complete computer package with ubuntu and 12 - 2 hour classes on how to use your computer oooooo
[07:20] <SiliconViper> alexbobp, beat me to it.
[07:21] <satokun> I'm getting a grub error 25.  I was able to reinstall grub but it had no effect.  Where should I go from here?  (Pastebin of my fdisk dump and menu.lst is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16131, they look fine to me but they could be royally messed up and I probably couldn't tell)
[07:21] <Priest> alexbobp: My apologies again, i thought we were discussing the panel.
[07:21] <Priest> I am still relatively new to Ubuntu.
[07:21] <moustic> hello
[07:21] <frodubuntu> SiliconViper: yeah, I do, I really believe in returning a micro portion of what I get with all of this
[07:21] <alexbobp> Priest: ah.  Mine is relatively empty, because I am so used to just typing the names of programs to run them.  So much more convenient than the dumb "start menu"
[07:21] <SiliconViper> moustic, hello.
[07:21] <frodubuntu> not in just being a parasyte
[07:22] <alexbobp> I don't think parasite is the correct term.  The open source community generally embraces users who give nothing back.
[07:22] <Priest> alexbobp: I see.
[07:22] <alexbobp> If we expected repayment, we'd sell software.
[07:22] <Jaymac> For the past two days I've been told I have 99 updates available, but then it tells me I have to run a partial upgrade, so I go ahead with that and it dies with an "Unresolvable error"
[07:22] <moustic> i am unable to mount usbdevfs, do i need some special usb modules ? (with a gutsy default installation)
[07:22] <Jaymac> Is this happening for anyone else?
[07:22] <SirAlexander> Yaris, the basic idea is that information and software should be free, and you should instead make money from the services that go along with them.
[07:23] <yaris123456789> i see
[07:23] <yaris123456789> where can i find programs to install for ubuntu...instant messenger, winamp, and those stuff ?
[07:23] <Cyndre> like training and support
[07:23] <Flannel> Jaymac: do you have a -proposed repo available?
[07:23] <frodubuntu> alexbobp: I was referring to myself potentially being selfish and reluctant to give back
[07:23] <Jaymac> Flannel: yeah
[07:23] <Flannel> yaris123456789: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:23] <Starnestommy> yaris123456789: I think pidgin is installed by default
[07:23] <Flannel> Jaymac: remove it.  That's your problem.
[07:23] <frodubuntu> and expressing my wanting to avoid that
[07:23] <alexbobp> yaris123456789: this philosophy says that if software is free (as in freedom), then we can continue to make progress together, instead of continually trying to reinvent the wheel better than the other guy.
[07:23] <yaris123456789> okay
[07:24] <elmargol> yaris123456789, http://www.linuxalt.com/ <- a Windows 2 Linux software list
[07:24] <yaris123456789> Flannel: what is that ?
[07:24] <SirAlexander> Yaris, most of that is already installed.  Pidgin (IM client) is already installed.  Rhythmbox is already installed.  You can also find more programs by clicking on the Add / Remove icon on the menu.
[07:24] <Flannel> yaris123456789: search the repos (via synaptic is easy, check that link) for stuff.
[07:24] <yaris123456789> ok
[07:24] <Jaymac> Flannel, what's wrong with it... is it broken at the moment?
[07:24] <yaris123456789> okay
[07:24] <yaris123456789> wow
[07:24] <yaris123456789> this is awesome
[07:24] <FloodBot3> yaris123456789: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <yaris123456789> thank you everyone
[07:24] <Priest> Is there a way to tell terminal that I want to run each command with sudo until exit? Or do I need to type sudo each time?
[07:25] <Flannel> Jaymac: -proposed stuff is not stable.  It is stuff that should be considered almost always "broken".  It hasn't been tested, etc.
[07:25] <SirAlexander> Priest:  Type "sudo bash".  Then it's basically like you're root until you type "exit".
[07:25] <Jaymac> Flannel: I know that, but it shouldn't crap out like this
[07:25] <Flannel> Priest: `sudo -i` will get you a shell.  Don't use it unless you need to.
[07:25] <Jaymac> SirAlexander: sudo -i is better than sudo bash
[07:26] <satokun> *notes both sudo tricks himself*
[07:26] <Flannel> Jaymac: -proposed is not fit for human consumption.  You can't expect it to not have dependency errors, since it may depend on stuff that will be updated, but haven't been yet, etc.
[07:26] <SirAlexander> There are more ways than those two too.
[07:26] <Priest> SirAlexander, Flannel: Thanks. I only need to do it for the next five commands, then I'll restart terminal. I know not to run it constantly. =P Not unless I want someone to kick me out of the loop.
[07:26] <Flannel> Priest: No need to restart, just "exit"
[07:26] <frodubuntu> hey SiliconViper is it possible to find out whether somebody is logged in with a certain ip?
[07:26] <Priest> Flannel: Ok, thanks. =D
[07:26] <moustic> SiliconViper: hello
[07:26] <alexbobp> SirAlexander: Better to recommend "sudo -s" then "sudo bash".  "sudo bash" will load root's profile, which will (among other things) prevent you from running X programs.
[07:27] <yaris123456789> btw how do i enable firewall in ubuntu ?
[07:27] <Flannel> alexbobp: Should use gksu (or kdesu) for graphical programs anyway
[07:27] <perlmonkey> greetings
[07:27] <AaronH> alexbobp, I heard its better to recommend "sudo -i"
[07:27] <SirAlexander> alexbobp:  There's some inherint safety in that though.  But he said the command line, so that's the direction I was going.
[07:27] <In-Sane``> how do i check my laptop for 3D acceleration? also, what is the command to show my cpu informatioms? thanks
[07:27] <Flannel> !firewall | yaris123456789
[07:27] <ubot3> yaris123456789: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:27] <satokun> How would I go about fixing a grub error 25 that happened after a reinstall of grub (which I did due to an error 15)?
[07:27] <Jaymac> Flannel: I know that, but proposed is supposed to be a testbed before things are rolled out (example Firefox RC) - it's never been broken for longer than a couple of hours
[07:27] <amirman84> yaris: not sure i haven't bothered, but i know there is a builtin firewall in ubuntu, it must be under administration
[07:27] <alexbobp> SirAlexander: I'm wrong, "sudo bash" does work for X.  It was "sudo su" that doesn't.
[07:27] <yaris123456789> Flannel: oh ok that is sweet
[07:27] <perlmonkey> hi Flannel, do you remember y'day I had problems installing Ubuntu on a new sys, and it would hang on the language section?
[07:28] <{hydra}> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:28] <SirAlexander> alexbobp:  There's only about 50 different ways to do it :P
[07:28] <yaris123456789> one more thing. i have to use alt+tab each time to switch between programs...how can i make it show like minimized programs at the bottom ?
[07:28] <SiliconViper> alexbobp, but sudo su works from bash, for X.
[07:28] <moustic> somebody can give some indications with problems to mount usbdevfs?
[07:28] <Flannel> Jaymac: It's broken until the broken packages get fixed (or in this case, their depends get packaged).  AGain, its not meant for general consumption, so you shouldn't expect it to not be broken.
[07:28] <Jaffarkelshac> i just an ipod as a gift, what sofware works with in ubuntu and also there is no safely remve in ubuntu, how do you eject then?
[07:28] <perlmonkey> Flannel: I eventually found out the cause of the problem.. it was the USB keyboard I was using.. switching to a PS/2 keyboard solved it
[07:29] <Flannel> perlmonkey: good to know
[07:29] <amirman84> yaris: right click on the panel and add a windows something
[07:29] <SirAlexander> Yaris, there should just be a regular minimize button on each window, and when you click it, it should minimize, and you should then be able to click its button on the task bar.
[07:29] <amirman84> i forget the name
[07:29] <Darlok_Williams> !svn
[07:29] <ubot3> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[07:29] <Priest> Jaffarkelshac: I use Amarok. To eject just right click on the iPod icon on your desktop and hit EJECT.
[07:29] <perlmonkey> Flannel: ya, was just wondering if there is anywhere we could put that tip for others?
[07:29] <amirman84> yaris: "window list, or window selector" depending on preference
[07:29] <Jaymac> Flannel: Of course I expect it to break.  In my experience even pre-release repos have been updated quicker :)
[07:30] <Jaffarkelshac> ok, oh dont use amarok, i prefer banshee, i dont think it has ipod support PriceChild
[07:30] <Darlok_Williams> I'm trying to install a program available only via SVN.  I've already run 'svn co' and it appeared to have downloaded all the files... what is next?
[07:30] <Flannel> perlmonkey: file a bug with launchpad, they may be able to fix it.
[07:30] <frodubuntu> is it possible to find out somebody's nick based on just the ip address?
[07:30] <perlmonkey> ok
[07:30] <Jaffarkelshac> PriceChild: sorry
[07:30] <amrik> Darlok_Williams: you will probably have to compile it
[07:30] <Jaffarkelshac> ok, oh dont use amarok, i prefer banshee, i dont think it has ipod support Priest
[07:30] <yaris123456789> amirman84: i did right click but i do not see add a windows something
[07:30] <alexbobp> In-Sane``: you can check your processor with "uname -p"
[07:30] <Darlok_Williams> amrik: Okay... but where did it save the source files?
[07:30] <Flannel> Jaymac: during alpha/etc it was the regular repos being broken, not side repos.  In theory no one uses proposed as a regular repo, and hiccups like that shouldn't affect anyone, as such, no hurry.
[07:31] <SirAlexander> Yaris, he means if you right-click on a panel, there should be an option "Add to Panel".
[07:31] <alexbobp> Darlok_Williams: if you're lucky (and most likely you are), you can cd into the directory in bash and type "./configure"
[07:31] <amrik> Darlok_Williams: wherever you checkout the svn
[07:31] <alexbobp> after that, you can type "make" and then optionally "make install"
[07:31] <Priest> Jaffarkelshac: I have not used banshee, but I can assure you that Amarok works perfectly well with my iPod. it even scrobbles my plays on last.fm when I plug it in.
[07:31] <Darlok_Williams> amrik: Ah... found it, but there's no configure script.
[07:31] <satokun> How would I go about diagnosing a grub error 25 that happened after a reinstall of grub (which I did due to an error 15)?
[07:31] <frodubuntu> is it possible to find out somebody's nick based on just the ip address? I'm trying to find back somebody I was helping
[07:31] <Flannel> !checkinstall | Darlok_Williams
[07:31] <bloodrock> satokun, did you edit your menulst flie
[07:31] <ubot3> Darlok_Williams: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[07:31] <yaris123456789> ok im at the add items to the panel
[07:31] <alexbobp> Darlok_Williams: if there is no configure script, just try make
[07:31] <amrik> Darlok_Williams: I see, is there configure.ac? signs that automake could be used?
[07:31] <Jaffarkelshac> ok, thanks Priest i will try it
[07:32] <Darlok_Williams> alexbobp: Yep, tried that... lots of errors :)
[07:32] <SirAlexander> Yaris, you want the Window List item.  Scroll down until you find it, click on it, then click the Add button.
[07:32] <Ahadiel_> godkas, CTRL + ALT + Backspace restarts X
[07:32] <alexbobp> Darlok_Williams: see if you can find the first error message it prints.  That will probably be complaining about a missing .h file.  Then you can try to find what package you need to provide that header.
[07:32] <satokun> bloodrock:  I think an update edited my menu.lst actually.  There were two entries, completely identical for the same hardy install.  I trimmed one but it's still giving me the error.
[07:32] <amirman84> yaris123456789: right click on the panel in an empty space / then select "add to panel" / then select "window list"
[07:33] <yaris123456789> okay
[07:33] <satokun> bloodrock:  I have a pastebin of it if that'd help.
[07:33] <SirAlexander> Although a Window List item should already be on the panel by default.  I don't know why it wouldn't be.
[07:33] <amirman84> yaris123456789: if you have any more questions feel free to PM me, i'm exiting this channel
[07:33] <bloodrock> sato i looked at your paste bin
[07:33] <yaris123456789> amirman okay
[07:34] <satokun> bloodrock:  Is there anything wrong with my menu.lst?  I'm thinking that has to be what's wrong, but I don't know how to fix it if it is.
[07:35] <Ashfire908> What partitoners come on the alternate/server cds?
[07:35] <SirAlexander> Probably fdisk.
[07:35] <frodubuntu> is it possible to find out somebody's nick based on just the ip address? I'm trying to find back somebody I was helping
[07:35] <Ashfire908> fdisk doesn't do resizing though.
[07:35] <In-Sane``> {hydra}: thanks. got it :)
[07:36] <SirAlexander> There's another newer fdisk-type util too, though I don't remember its name and I'm not sure if it does resizing either.
[07:36] <Evil_is_good> hello
[07:36] <bloodrock> satokun, you get error when trying to run the 7.10
[07:36] <Dr_willis> gparted is handy  SirAlexander
[07:36] <frodubuntu> yeah
[07:36] <bloodrock> satokun,  or just the 8.04
[07:36] <Ashfire908> Livecds don't boot on this system.
[07:36] <SirAlexander> That's true, but Ashfire was asking about the server CD, so I'm guessing he doesn't have a GUI.  I don't know if gparted works on command line or not.
[07:37] <Dr_willis> SirAlexander,  that would be 'parted' :) or 'cfdisk' then
[07:37] <satokun> bloodrock:  I now get the same error 25 when trying to run any of my three installs or their recovery modes.  Disk read error.
[07:37] <SirAlexander> Yeah Ashfire, what willis said... try parted.
[07:37] <Ashfire908> well either I find a thing for the installer cd, or I install a gui system.
[07:37] <satokun> bloodrock:  prior to the reinstall of grub, I got a 15 on all three.
[07:37] <RainMaker> Hi, can anyone here go to darkmewtwo.ath.cx and tell me if it works?
[07:37] <Ashfire908> It's not on the cd.
[07:38] <RainMaker> ..?
[07:38] <yaris123456789> how do i  make the panel wider....like clikc on edge and drag it so that the panel is wide...
[07:38] <SirAlexander> Right-click on the panel > properties > adjust size.
[07:38] <bloodrock> satokun, did you get error b4 or after editing menu.lst
[07:39] <TuxPWNZ> Guys, my cd/dvd rom drive refuses to come out, and the system is not detecting it, please help.
[07:39] <yaris123456789> SirAlexander: when i do that the size increases...i just want the panel to be wider
[07:39] <SirAlexander> Tux, have a paper clip handy?
[07:39] <satokun> bloodrock:  before and after.  15 before grub reinstall, 25 both before and after the menu.lst edit.
 Excuse me?
[07:40] <_Master> i trying to run "./configure" in an extracted folder of program source code and its saying no such directory, what am i doing wrong, i remember having this problem before and finding a fix...
[07:40] <SirAlexander> Yaris, check the "expand" box
[07:40] <SirAlexander> Tux, if your drive won't open you may need to use a paper clip in the emergency release hole.
[07:40] <yaris123456789> SirAlexander: okay expand is on
[07:40] <bloodrock> satokun, i don't see anything wrong in menu.lst
 Will a needle do the job?
[07:41] <Jaffarkelshac> can you ping a range of ips on a network to see which is live?
[07:41] <theFATMAN> ok, i have two kernels now after the update, how do i remove the old one?
[07:41] <SirAlexander> Tux:  Yes.  Anything thin enough to fit in the whole yet still has some strength to it.
[07:42] <bloodrock> satokun, as i read it you have 2 vers of 7.10 is that right
[07:42] <_Master> i trying to run "./configure" in an extracted folder of program source code and its saying no such directory, what am i doing wrong, i remember having this problem before and finding a fix...
[07:42] <blah569> Why does this happen?  My sound is working fine, then a few minutes later, the sound stops working.  The way to fix this is to restart.  Is there another method to use?
[07:42] <bloodrock> sato and 1 ver of 8.04
[07:42] <Jaffarkelshac> theFATMAN: kernels are not space hoggers so you dont have to remove it, its good to have if something goes wrong or not work with new kernel, you comment it out in menu.lst
[07:42] <blah569> In my Windows partition, my sound does not stop working like this, by the way.
[07:42] <satokun> bloodrock:  yes.  it was my early ubuntu experiments.  They're on a seperate drive from 8.04 and /home.  One's clean, one's a bit played with.
[07:42] <Jaffarkelshac> i mean to so say you can comment it out theFATMAN
[07:43] <blah569> Any ideas why?
[07:43] <theFATMAN> jaffarkelshac: thanks dude
[07:43] <satokun> bloodrock:  neither boot, same error
[07:43] <gaurav> how do i identify, what make and model my hdd is without opening my laptop to check the tags on my hdd.
[07:43]  * perlmonkey has filed his first bug
[07:44] <bloodrock> satokun, and these are all on 3 seperate hd's
[07:44] <gaurav> and i dont want to reboot my laptop and check from the bios if possible ;)
[07:44] <_Master> yeah
[07:44] <_Master> i trying to run "./configure" in an extracted folder of program source code and its saying no such directory, what am i doing wrong, i remember having this problem before and finding a fix...
[07:44] <Jaffarkelshac> np theFATMAN
[07:44] <satokun> bloodrock:  8.04, /home and both 7.10 installs are each on seperate drives.
[07:45] <Dutt> alexbobp: u still here mate?
[07:45] <bloodrock> sato you put the/home on a 4th drive?
[07:45] <frodubuntu> ok chanel
[07:45] <frodubuntu> I think I'm going to leave for a little while
[07:45] <frodubuntu> it has been good to see you guys
[07:45] <PCcertified> I'm back
[07:45] <satokun> bloodrock:  no, there are three drives.  One has 8.04, the largest has /home, and the smallest has both 7.10s
[07:45] <frodubuntu> cheers
[07:45] <SirAlexander> Don't forget my eggs frodubuntu
[07:46] <satokun> bloodrock:  since /home is pretty portable from what I could find between flavors, I gave it it's own drive.
[07:46] <amrik> can you do /home as a separate partition in the regular install cd or do you have to use alternate?
[07:46] <Dutt> alexbobp: i did wat u said but it did not fix it..
[07:47] <SirAlexander> I think you can manually specify your partition configuration using the LiveCD, amrik.
[07:47] <PCcertified> amrik you can choose your partitions
[07:47] <bloodrock> satokun, ok was this running with /home on seperate drive with both 7.10 b4 installing 8.04
 I did it! Thanks very much for your help. :)
[07:47] <SirAlexander> You're welcome Tux :).
[07:48] <legend2440> gaurav: istall package gnome-device-manager
[07:48] <tsukasa_> hey guys is there a way of making it always use DISPLAY=:0
[07:48] <legend2440> gaurav: install package gnome-device-manager
[07:48] <tsukasa_> in terminal
[07:48] <satokun> bloodrock:  yes.  the whole thing was running fine till I did an 8.04 update reboot.
[07:48] <SirAlexander> "export DISPLAY=:0"
[07:48] <cyh> how do i complete uninstalll (including databases) mysql5 then reinstall it?
[07:48] <Dutt> guys is there a way i can install gfx drivers with the command line b4 loging into ubuntu?
[07:49] <satokun> bloodrock:  as of a week ago I was able to boot into all three installs each recognizing my /home properly.  It's not the least complex thing in the world but it worked fine.
[07:49] <SirAlexander> If you want the variable to stay set each time you reboot, you'll have to stick it in a script somewhere that gets loaded on boot.
[07:49] <tsukasa_> SirAlexander, like /etc/rc.local? export DISPLAY=:0?
[07:49] <SirAlexander> Dutt:  Yes.  Are you looking to install the Ubuntu provided drivers, or the drivers downloaded from nVidia?
[07:50] <SirAlexander> tsu, that should work fine.
[07:50] <bloodrock> satokun,  did you check gparted to see if it shows drives in order to how you had each set to it's drive maybe drive order got changed?
[07:50] <ackbahr> Hi there! Is anyone here a LIRC expert?
[07:50] <tsukasa_> thanks =)
[07:50] <SirAlexander> You're welcome :).
[07:50] <satokun> bloodrock:  fdisk_dump is in my pastebin.  as far as I can tell nothind's different, but lemmie doublecheck.
[07:50] <Dutt> SirAlexander: it doesnt bother me any that work ill b happy with..at the moment i cant see anything unless i press ctl-alt-f1
[07:51] <Dutt> (my screen turns off)
[07:51] <SirAlexander> If you want to install Ubuntu supplied drivers from the command line, you'll have to sudo apt-get install the right packages.  If you download the nVidia drivers, you'll have to install some dev packages (build-essential) and then compile the driver (actually the kernel interface) yourself.
[07:52] <TiZ_> Hi there. I'm trying to make my startup a little smoother. I'm trying to get Quod Libet and Thunderbird to appear at startup, both in the system tray. Thunderbird has no system tray icon, so I use kdocker. But it always shows some dialog saying "System tray appears to be hidden" and I have to click it away before Thunderbird starts.
[07:52] <Priest> How do I check my graphics drivers from terminal?
[07:52] <satokun> bloodrock:  that looks right.  hda is /home (200gb) hdb is 8.04 and hdc are my 7.10s
[07:52] <Dutt> SirAlexander: i have no idea how to do that
[07:53] <Dutt> how do i know wat packages to install?
[07:53] <satokun> *compares*
[07:53] <Starnestommy> SirAlexander: I don't think that they need to be compiled
[07:53] <raymond> hi all can some one help me out please? i updated my ubuntu and now the grub menu is not shown anymore it just shows me a grub> prompt
[07:53] <Dr_willis> Weird networking issue here. I just hooked 2 pc's up to a linksys switch,  now both machines are getting very slow networking speeds, and often cutting out at times. lagg in games. and so forth. Its ttill happening even after i unplug one of the machines fron the network
[07:53] <TiZ_> Basically, right now, I just want to know how to get that dialog to stop appearing at startup.
[07:53] <Starnestommy> raymond: was /boot/grub/menu.lst removed?
[07:54] <SirAlexander> Starnestommy:  If you download the drivers from nVidia's website, you do have to compile the kernel module.
[07:54] <Starnestommy> TiZ_: is the notification area applet working?
[07:54] <_Master> im trying to run "./configure" in an extracted folder of program source code and its saying no such directory, what am i doing wrong, i remember having this problem before and finding a fix...
[07:54] <SirAlexander> Their script will compile it for you, but yo have to have the right dev packages installed.
[07:54] <TiZ_> Yup. Quod Libet,  Thunderbird, and the Fusion-Icon are currently there.
[07:54] <hell|shock_> now anybody who i can get a hydra gtk deb for ubuntu 8.04?
[07:55] <raymond> well if i type find /boot/grub/menu.lst it returns that it cant be found so i think ur right
[07:55] <SirAlexander> Dutt:  I don't remember the exact names of the Ubuntu nVidia packages.  You could try typing "sudo apt-get install nvidia" at the command line and see if it gives you any hints of package names.
[07:55] <satokun> bloodrock:  hd1 should be 8.04, hd0 /home hd2,1/2,3 my 7.10s  I think.
[07:55] <Negromancer> Will a package hold prevent a package from being replaced in a distro upgrade?
[07:55] <Dutt> SirAlexander: ok thanks
[07:55] <SirAlexander> You're welcome
[07:56] <Dutt> so they are allready on my system?
[07:56] <SirAlexander> Using sudo apt-get downloads and installs software from the repositories, so it adds software to your system.
[07:56] <kley> cant  install ia32-sun-java6-bin  Error: could not open `/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun-1.6.0.06/jre/lib/i386/jvm.cfg'  pls help
[07:56] <Dutt> ok thanks
[07:56] <christoz> good morning!
[07:56] <TiZ_> Is there some way I can make kdocker run only after the system tray is visible?
  if i type find /boot/grub/menu.lst it returns that it cant be found so i think ur right
[07:57] <SirAlexander> Tiz_:  You could always hack it by making a script that runs and sleeps for, oh, say, 15 seconds or so, and then loads kdocker for you.
[07:57] <satokun> bloodrock:  grub stage1 and stage2 are on the 8.04 drive.  if it couldn't read the drive it shouldn't be able to start grub and show me all three installs.
[07:57] <christoz> how can i connect with a windows vista via ethernet cable?
[07:58] <TiZ_> That would be good enough for me. How do I make it sleep, and where would I put the script?
[07:58] <alexbobp> Dutt: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and then try "sudo nvidia-xconfig" again
[07:58] <pen> hi
[07:58] <Starnestommy> Dutt: try nvidia-glx-new
[07:58] <Dutt|bbl> ok thanks guys
[07:58] <selocol> !hi | pen
[07:58] <ubot3> pen: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:58] <SirAlexander> TiZ_:  Do yo have any programming experience?
[07:58] <_Master> im trying to run "./configure" in an extracted folder of program source code and its saying no such directory, what am i doing wrong, i remember having this problem before and finding a fix...
[07:58] <pen> ubot3, hi
[07:58] <kley> christoz rdesktop comp_name  or use vncviewer
[07:58] <pen> selocol, hi
[07:58] <Starnestommy> _Master: does ./configure exist?
[07:59] <TiZ_> SirAlexander: Yeah, a little. C#, Java, VB, etc. But I've only just started using Linux.
[07:59] <kley> cant  install ia32-sun-java6-bin  Error: could not open `/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun-1.6.0.06/jre/lib/i386/jvm.cfg'  guys  need  help
[07:59] <christoz> kley actuall i want to transfer files to the vista's hd for  a back up
[07:59] <bloodrock> satokun, it looks good to me and you said it all worked
[07:59] <bloodrock> satokun, until update
[07:59] <Bllz> is it possible to have quotas on SMB shares, and how would I go about implementing this?
[07:59] <satokun> bloodrock:  it did.  now it doesn't
[08:00] <redshadowhero> Does anyone know where I can find a halfway decent bash guide that's free? I want to be able to show my friends linux without worrying about them blowing up everything.
[08:00] <SirAlexander> TiZ_:  If I was going to do such a thing myself, I would use Python.  There's a place you can stick scripts to make KDE run them automatically, something like ~/.kde/Autostart, something like that, but I don't quite remember.  It's been a long time since I've really used KDE>
[08:00] <satokun> exactly
[08:00] <TiZ_> I'm using Gnome.
[08:00] <TiZ_> kdocker works in Gnome too, supposedly.
[08:00] <SirAlexander> Oh
[08:00] <SirAlexander> Well then.
[08:00] <kley> mount them manualy  if you know  the  path  or  use  samba
[08:00] <TiZ_> And someone recommended it to me over alltray
[08:00] <_Master> what do you mean Starnestommy?
[08:00] <Starnestommy> _Master: does the ./configure script exist?
[08:01] <Bllz> kley are you talking to me?
[08:01] <_Master> i dont know?
[08:01] <SirAlexander> TiZ_:  In that case, you can create an entry for the script in the Sessions window, and it'll load with Gnome.
[08:01] <dgunn> hello!
[08:01] <Starnestommy> _Master: run "ls | grep configure"
[08:01] <satokun> bloodrock:  I'll go check it one more time to be sure.
[08:01] <bloodrock> satokun,  maybe try like editing or comment out all but first linux in the list and see if that does anything
[08:01] <DaveKong> Is there some way to disable the computer sounds? Like when you press a key too much and get this electronic noise?
[08:01] <TiZ_> Any old shell script? Or does it have to be Python?
[08:01] <Bllz> how can I set up disk usage quotas on SMB shares?
[08:02] <satokun> bloodrock:  I'll comment them out and give it a shot.  It'll be a few minutes.
[08:02] <SirAlexander> Anything executable, script, binary etc.  If you can get a shell script to sleep, then that'd work fine.  I personally don't know how, as I haven't played with shell scripts of that sort much.
[08:02] <christoz> How can i transfer files from an Ubuntu system to a Windows VIsta one?
[08:02] <_Master> nothing is happening Starnestommy
[08:02] <christoz> via ethernet cable
[08:02] <Starnestommy> _Master: then ./configure does not exist
[08:02]  * perlmonkey is drinking water flat out like a lizard
[08:02] <_Master> how do i make it exist then Starnestommy lol
[08:03] <SirAlexander> TiZ_:  If Java is in your path, you could technically even make a little Java program to do it, but then of course you'd have the overhead of it loading the Java VM when Gnome loads.
[08:03] <dgunn> I'm hoping someone can help me,  I just updated to 8.04.  And now after every apt-get upgrade I get an error mentioning bastille.  I cannot even apt-get remove bastille or I get the same error over and over...
[08:03] <_Master> its a key component of using linux i dont see why it wouldnt naturally come with it
[08:03] <Starnestommy> _Master: does autogen.sh exist?
[08:03] <_Master> how would i find that out?
[08:03] <Starnestommy> _Master: ls
[08:03] <dgunn> quit()
[08:04] <bloodrock> christoz, you should be able to see your vista via places>network
[08:04] <SirAlexander> dgunn:  Have you tried to "fix" your packages?
[08:04] <bloodrock> christoz unless you haven't setup shares on vista
[08:04] <_Master> "ls" brings up a bunch of crap in terminal Starnestommy
[08:04] <christoz> bloodrock what's the steps for both sides?
[08:05] <Bllz> how do i set up disk usage quotas for smb shares?
[08:05] <Starnestommy> _Master: is autogen.sh in that crap?
[08:05] <TiZ_> SirAlexander: Sorry. I don't want to create a whole program just to start one a certain way. That seems too much trouble.
[08:05] <SirAlexander> lol
[08:05] <nauj64> francais utilisant ubuntu
[08:05] <TiZ_> Thanks for the help anyways, though.
[08:05] <bloodrock> christo from ubuntu you setup a share via samba
[08:05] <SirAlexander> TiZ_:  That's fine.  That's the best way to get what you want quickly.  Wouldn't be any more than, say, 15 lines, but it's up to you.
[08:05] <_Master> no i dont think so Starnestommy
[08:06] <kley> can any one  share  his  content  of   his  /etc/ia32-java-6-sun if you  own this
[08:06] <Starnestommy> _Master: what is the source code for?
[08:06] <kley> can any one  share  his  content  of   his  /etc/ia32-java-6-sun if you  own this, mine  was accidently deleted
[08:06] <DarkYoh> lol
[08:06] <_Master> a webcam driver Starnestommy
[08:06] <christoz> How should i be able to see the window vista(linked via ethernet cable) via places->network?
[08:06] <nauj64> aucun francais  à la discution
[08:07] <mattheO> hello
[08:07] <DarkYoh> when u r installing ubuntu 8... at 29% takes a LONG time ? or my install got stuck ? ;D
[08:07] <Starnestommy> _Master: check the readme or install files
[08:07] <hell|shock_> now anybody who i can get a hydra gtk deb for ubuntu 8.04?
[08:07] <Slart> !fr | nauj64
[08:07] <ubot3> nauj64: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[08:07] <Starnestommy> !fr | nauj64
[08:07] <_Master> i did
[08:07] <bloodrock> christoz in vista can open my computer right click on drive that you wanna share choose propty' then the tab labeled share
[08:07] <nauj64> merci compris
[08:07] <Starnestommy> _Master: try running autoconf
[08:07] <SirAlexander> I'm going to bed everyone.  Goodnight.
[08:07] <Slart> kley: can't you just reinstall the sun java package?
[08:07] <_Master> Logitech Quickcam Express USB Driver - 1. How to compile? - Just use a plain "make" to compile the driver.
[08:08] <christoz> bloodrock sounds to simple to be true :p
[08:08] <kley> Slart :  when reinstaling  that  package  i got  the same  error
[08:08] <bloodrock> christo click on places then network then should see windowsnetwork that is if you have folders or drive set to be shared on vista
[08:09] <remoteCTRL> Hi all!:)
[08:09] <satokun> bloodrock:  commenting out the other entries made them disappear.  Error 25:  Disk Read Error (for normal), Error 15:  File not found (for recovery) and the memtest works fine now (but it was erroring out too).
[08:09] <christoz> thanks bloodrock
[08:09] <Bllz> anybody know why my smb shares don't show up in vista?
[08:09] <_Master> if i just do "make" it just gives me basically a help menu on "make" options Starnestommy
[08:09] <remoteCTRL> i cant seem to load my nvidia drivers can anyone help me on that please?
[08:09] <kley> Slart i need  it only to  run sun's wtk   on  my  64 bit ubuntu
[08:09] <Starnestommy> _Master: what are the options?
[08:09] <bloodrock> cristoz no prob
[08:09] <Slart> kley: hang on.. I'll check what's in my config
[08:09] <mattheO> I have a problem with reading videos, when I read them they are "flashing", but when I put the wide screen on the video is fine. I have an ATI video card and I recently added 3D effects on my desktop.
[08:10] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: have you enabled printer and file sharing in the vista firewall?
[08:10] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: i've had that problem before except with XP. i just manually typed in the address instead of clicking browse.
[08:10] <satokun> bloodrock:  the 8.04 disk reads fine under the live cd and a disk check shows it's working properly on the hardware level.
[08:10] <_Master> 3 different "make all" options, 3 different "make install" options, and 1 "make clean" option Starnestommy
[08:10] <Bllz> remoteCTRL  i believe so
[08:10] <Bllz> but iĺl check
[08:10] <Starnestommy> _Master: try make all
[08:10] <remoteCTRL> yeah;)
[08:11] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... how would I determine the ip?
[08:11] <Bllz> sorry... i'm noobing hard today
[08:11] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: well u dont need to know the ip
[08:11] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: go to the machine with samba on it and type ifconfig into a terminal
[08:11] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: but u could do ifconfig in terminal
[08:11] <Nikunj1993> my windows isnt booting anyone help
[08:11] <Bllz> oh you mean the file path, InvaderAmoto?
[08:11] <_Master> i get several different errors Starnestommy
[08:11] <Starnestommy> Nikunj1993: try asking ##windows
[08:12] <Starnestommy> _Master: pastebin the errors
[08:12] <fserve_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/177646
[08:12] <Nikunj1993> how to mount hibernated windows partition in ubnutu
[08:12] <ubot3> Malone bug 177646 in linux-meta "Celeron M530, no frequence scaling" [Undecided,New]
[08:12] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: well on vista u could type the computer name of the samba share then : then the folder name
[08:12] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: i mean u type that in the add network place wizard
[08:12] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto, okay... i'll do that if all else fails
[08:12] <bloodrock> satokun, try this add /dev/sdb in front of /boot/vmlinuz
[08:12] <Nikunj1993> ﻿how to mount hibernated windows partition in ubnutu
[08:12] <Bllz> ooh. even better
[08:13] <remoteCTRL> !patience | Nikunj1993
[08:13] <ubot3> Nikunj1993: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:13] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... the computer name is the name of the Ubuntu box? or the name of the samba share?
[08:13] <bloodrock> satokun, and same too /boot/initrd.img
[08:13] <_Master> http://pastebin.com/d418b3b24 Starnestommy
[08:13] <Nikunj1993> ok sorry
[08:13] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: ubuntu box
[08:13] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: the ubuntu box
[08:13] <RainMaker> Can anyone tell me if this link works?
[08:13] <Bllz> okay
[08:13] <RainMaker> darkmewtwo.ath.cx
[08:13] <satokun> bloodrock:  in my menu.lst?
[08:14] <Bllz> so just home-server?  that's what i named it at install
[08:14] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: like if my computer was named ubuntu-desktop and i wanted to share a folder called share i would type this in: ubuntu-desktop:share
[08:14] <Starnestommy> _Master: looks like it could be a bug in the program
[08:14] <remoteCTRL> RainMaker: yeah works
[08:14] <_Master> so i should find a different driver Starnestommy?
[08:14] <Nikunj1993> ﻿Starnestommy: can u tell me how to mount hibernated windows drive?
[08:14] <bloodrock> satokun, yes and leave space between /dev/sdb and /boot
[08:14] <Bllz> okay... gotcha
[08:14] <Starnestommy> Nikunj1993: I don't know, sorry
[08:14] <Nikunj1993> ok
[08:14] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: u can find out the name in network settings
[08:14] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: or //ubuntu-desktop/share
[08:15] <satokun> bloodrock:  ok so /dev/sdb /boot~
[08:15] <bloodrock> yes
[08:15] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: ya
[08:15] <Bllz> so name:sharename
[08:15] <cowok> jkjhljhl
[08:15] <yaris123456789> hello guys when i do sudo apt-get install yum, it says please insert the disk labeled Xubuntu 8.04 in drive /cdrom/   ,,,,,,,the problem is that i only have /cdrom0/ and cdrom1
[08:15] <satokun> bloodrock:  gotcha.  brb.
[08:15] <bloodrock> i had to do that once when i had 3 diff linuxs on my machine
[08:15] <yupperz> what is the default block size of Ubuntu Server install for ext3?
[08:15] <Starnestommy> _Master: run "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[08:15] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: ya or what remoteCTRL said
[08:16] <remoteCTRL> yaris123456789: open /etc/apt/sources.list then insert a # infront of the line with the cd then try the command again
[08:16] <yaris123456789> ok
[08:16] <_Master> annnnddd ddddeeeennnn Starnestommy?
[08:16] <Bllz> remoteCTRL:  dumb question--how do i enable network and file sharing in Vista?
[08:16] <Starnestommy> _Master: make all
[08:17] <yaris123456789> remoteCTRL: it says could not get a file descriptor referring to the console
[08:17] <Nikunj1993> how to mount hibernated windows partition?
[08:17] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: it is a service that runs per default, if you use a non windows firewall you might need to open the port/service on the legacy firewall manually
[08:17] <m4u17k> myutZz
[08:17] <zachalink> what's the command to get to the install for your latest video drivers?
[08:17] <yaris123456789> okay i used nano to open up the sources.list
[08:17] <remoteCTRL> yaris123456789: umm who/what says so, whn you do what?
[08:17] <_Master> same looking errors Starnestommy
[08:17] <yaris123456789> which part do i uncomment ? the cd ?
[08:18] <remoteCTRL> yaris123456789: yes
[08:18] <InvaderAmoto> Nikunj1993: you should be able to browse to the partition in nautilus
[08:18] <Starnestommy> Nikunj1993: try sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdXX /mnt
[08:18] <Bllz> remoteCTRL:  do you happen to know the services name as per services.msc ... I disabled a bunch a while ago
[08:18] <Starnestommy> Nikunj1993: where the /dev/sdXX is the device node for that partition
[08:18] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: as i didnt reherse those, i am sorry... but its name is something like file and printer sharing...
[08:19] <In-Sane``> when I check my copmuter for 3D acceleration it says No ( if you want to know why set...) Dies that mean my graphic card is disabled?
[08:19] <Bllz> remoteCTRL:  okay thanks!  I think i can manage from here
[08:19] <Bllz> thanks guys!
[08:19] <zachalink> video card drivers? anybody know?
[08:19] <remoteCTRL> Bllz:  no prob:)
[08:19] <Starnestommy> In-Sane``: it just means that the driver is
[08:19] <remoteCTRL> zachalink: what ya wanna know?
[08:19] <ildude> i have x-chat gnome on hardy heron. need help setting client to receive a dcc file transfer.
[08:19] <In-Sane``> Starnestommy: the driver is?
[08:19] <zachalink> where to get the latest video card drivers
[08:19] <zachalink> for my nvidia 6150 LE
[08:20] <remoteCTRL> ildude: does that per default, if not open ports on firewall
[08:20] <Starnestommy> In-Sane``: the driver is disabled
[08:20] <zachalink> just some issues regarding wine and WoW and the video not showing up so I figure I'll solve it by getting latest drivers
[08:20] <remoteCTRL> zachalink: there's no such thing like "latest" drivers for a 4 years old card;)
[08:20] <In-Sane``> Starnestommy: hmmz, I tried to enable the desktop effects but i get an error.
[08:20] <ildude> ooh, forgot about the firewall, thanks ill do that now.
[08:20] <Starnestommy> In-Sane``: what kind of card is it?
[08:20] <In-Sane``> Starnestommy: ati
[08:21] <zachalink> well I don't think I even have the drivers yet. where can I get them for ubuntu?
[08:21] <Starnestommy> In-Sane``: I'm not sure what to do for ATi
[08:21] <InvaderAmoto> zachalink: even if nvidia has newer drivers on their site, i would stick to the ones installed from drivers manager in ubuntu
[08:21] <Nikunj1993> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[08:21] <In-Sane``> Starnestommy: ok. no problem. thanks anyway.
[08:21] <remoteCTRL> zachalink: click on system/administration/hardware drivers and enable the nvidia drivers
[08:21] <hell|shock_> now anybody who i can get a hydra gtk deb for ubuntu 8.04?
[08:21] <zachalink> remoteCTRL: thank you
[08:21] <Nikunj1993> ﻿Starnestommy: fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[08:22] <remoteCTRL> hell|shock_: look out on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <remoteCTRL> zachalink: no prob
[08:22] <In-Sane``> !info hydra gtk
[08:22] <ubot3> Package hydra does not exist in hardy
[08:22] <Starnestommy> Nikunj1993: something else must be using the partition
[08:22] <remoteCTRL> yeah but the thing might be part of another package so search for it on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:23] <Nikunj1993> ya it was hibernated to so i ran a command to remove the hibernate file after that this is happening neither can i see the file in places
[08:24] <remoteCTRL> any of the pr0s wanna help me find out why my nvidia driver keeps crashing?
[08:24] <hell|shock_> i now that the package not exist on packages.ubuntu.com my question is who i can find this
[08:25] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: i'm no pro but did u install it from hardware drivers in ubuntu or from nvidia's site?
[08:25] <remoteCTRL> hell|shock_: i suggest you use google, there is also yahoo and altavista or norhtern lights...
[08:25] <satokun> bloodrock:  both the normal and recovery entries come back 15 file not found
[08:25] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: after i had a blank screen after upgrading to hardy i made the mistake to install from nvidia page...
[08:25] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: and what crashes it?
[08:26] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: i cant tell i just get a flickering nvidia splashscreen on boot for three times then find myself in vesa
[08:26] <bloodrock> satokun, add 1 to the sdb
[08:26] <bloodrock> sdb1
[08:26] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: i can exclude a xorg.conf problem though
[08:26] <satokun> bloodrock:  ok.  sorry for the delay, I just have to boot to the live cd each time.
[08:26] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: heh i was just gonna say u should go to recovery mode then choose to fix xorg.conf
[08:27] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: hehe, yeah i messed arround with that xorg.conf for about three hours xyesterday i can really exclude it...
[08:27] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: a while back i tried installing from the nvidia site and it screwed up my xorg.conf pretty badly. even doing that recovery mode fix wouldn't work
[08:28] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: i ended up reinstalling ubuntu. haha
[08:28] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: phunny thing is if i lokk into system/administratin/hardware drivers i see the driver as ENABLED
[08:28] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: hmm. try disabling it there
[08:28] <snarkster> hey guys if there are other users on my system and im sshLing in how can i send them messages.
[08:28] <remoteCTRL> but when i f ex try to run nvidia-settings it say you dont seem to have nvidia drivers running
[08:28] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: maybe u have it installed twice!
[08:28] <remoteCTRL> the nvidia module is loaded though
[08:29] <remoteCTRL> actually i have installed it three times
[08:29] <remoteCTRL> i also have nvidia legacy and nvidia new in ther
[08:29] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: i see. well that cant help
[08:29] <snarkster> any clues.
[08:29] <remoteCTRL> which is interesting becvause i definitely removed it all
[08:30] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: i would uninstall everything that comes in the repos and just leave the one installed from the nvidia site and see if that works
[08:30] <Bllz> remoteCTRL:  so I map a network drive as \\servername\sharename  ?
[08:30] <snarkster> is there a way to have a window popup with my message on it.
[08:30] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: O
[08:30] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: thats wierd
[08:30] <remoteCTRL> i have yesterday removed/purged: all that has a nvidia in its name, all that has xorg in its name, all linux kernels including modules and headers
[08:30] <Starnestommy> snarkster: I don't think so
[08:30] <eviltane> hello all
[08:30] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: you can sing it man
[08:30] <snarkster> hmm i thought wall did that.
[08:30] <oQuQo> is there any way to restore firefox installation? my firefox crashes all the time
[08:31] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: if i were u i would just do a reinstall ubuntu. it only takes like 30 mins maybe less.
[08:31] <Starnestommy> snarkster: wall is just in terminals, I think
[08:31] <oQuQo> and there's also some problem with the profiles
[08:31] <snarkster> but if i sudo shutdown itll popup a message telling them.. interesting
[08:31] <oQuQo> have tried reinstalling it few times
[08:31] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: well i got loads of dater on here and i have a raid 5 running and loads of other stuff so reinstalling is not an option at all...:/
[08:32] <yaksha> When my computer boots up, on the bootloader menu, i get both "
[08:32] <yaksha> Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-17" and one that's 2.6.24-16
[08:32] <yaksha> why is this?
[08:32] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: i see. well thats a problem
[08:32] <snarkster> thank you.
[08:32] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: but thanks for trying anyways;)
[08:32] <Starnestommy> yaksha: sounds like a bug
[08:32] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: you could do some partitioning if you know what your doing with that
[08:32] <yaksha> and what's the difference between 2.6.24-7 and 2.6.24-6?
[08:32] <yaksha> both of them have a generic and a recovery mode option
[08:33] <eviltane> i got a question (im a complete nub to linux) i just installed Ubuntu  to my PC on free space i had left  after installing Vista.   I used the live CD  it said the instalation was complete  however when ubuntu boots from the default choice .  I get a command line interface (busybox)  how do i get to a GUI?
[08:33] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: old pr0 would like to help me out?
[08:33] <Negromancer> Will a package hold prevent a package from being replaced in a distro upgrade?
[08:33] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: yeah i do but as said its lvm and raid and all and that is hell of a job to get it right once you dont wanna create it new...
[08:33] <Starnestommy> remoteCTRL: with what?
[08:33] <bloodrock> Starnestommy, mine did that too today when the system did a kernel update nothing to worry about
[08:33] <ildude> what port does xchat-gnome use and is it possible to change it?
[08:34] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: i cant seem to get my nvidia drivers loaded and im completely outta ideas...
[08:34] <Starnestommy> ildude: for irc or dcc?
[08:34] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: you could also transfer that data although that could be a pain in the ass
[08:34] <ildude> for dcc
[08:34] <krupa^> hey, im looking for offline downloader of sites that can do recursive folders and get only *.html files etc... ideas for program?
[08:34] <Starnestommy> remoteCTRL: I'm not sure what to do, sorry
[08:34] <Starnestommy> ildude: it picks a random one
[08:34] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: talking bout 1,5 terrabyte;)
[08:35] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: *sigh* thanks tho dude
[08:35] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: o...haha thats a lot. i guess i cant help you than
[08:35] <cn28h> Trying to install ubuntu server in qemu, but it's having an error that it can't detect a cd-rom drive and then if I manually select one it doesn't work either..
[08:35] <cn28h> any ideas?
[08:35] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto + remote CTRL:  IT WORKS!  YOU GUYS ARE GENIUSES.  I am one happy n00b.
[08:35] <Bllz> thank you!
[08:35] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: yeah i know but i appreciate you trying;)
[08:35] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: np
[08:35] <satokun> bloodrock:  both the normal and recovery entries still come back 15 file not found
[08:35] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: np
[08:35] <Starnestommy> remoteCTRL: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if the drivers are being loaded in there
[08:35] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: heh glad i could help gg
[08:36] <DarkYoh> ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso works for intel quadcore too ? ;D
[08:36] <satokun> bloodrock:  I checked while I was in nautilus on the live cd, and the files are there.
[08:36] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: yeah thats basically the point; i can completely rule out the xorg.conf...
[08:36] <Starnestommy> DarkYoh: I think so
[08:36] <ildude> hmmm, which ports would i have to open on my firewall?
[08:36] <DarkYoh> ok ty ;D
[08:36] <Starnestommy> ildude: you might be able to tell xchat-gnome to use a specific range
[08:37] <remoteCTRL> ildude: sry man i cant tell by heart which ports dcc uses, best google for it
[08:37] <yupperz> :)
[08:37] <Starnestommy> DCC has no specific standard ports
[08:37] <legend2440> Negromancer: according to man aptitude yes it will prevent upgrade
[08:37] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: that is bad then XD
[08:37] <ildude> ok, thanks for the help.
[08:38] <remoteCTRL> gawd someone save me pls:/
[08:38] <bloodrock> satokun,  just thought of something your menu.lst shows (hd1,0) if i not mistakenit should be (hd1,1)
[08:38] <Bllz> if i don't have a public share, the password is the username/pass from the ubuntu account, right?
[08:38] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: right
[08:38] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: how did u rule out xorg.conf?
[08:39] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: yes
[08:39] <Starnestommy> remoteCTRL: try running "X :1" and see what errors that gives out
[08:39] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: by playing arround with it for hours
[08:39] <Bllz> remoteCTRL + InvaderAmoto:  how come it's not being accepted then?
[08:39] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: try not putting anything in
[08:39] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: i let nevidia-xconfig create one for example, and so further and so on...
[08:39] <satokun> bloodrock:  when I installed grub it only listed 1,0 as a root.  0 is the first partition on the drive and it's not my swap (I don't think, at least, it never was before...)
[08:39] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: did u try the recovery mode thing?
[08:39] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto:  the ok box is grayed out until i type something
[08:40] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: you need to login explicilta with that user otherwise you use your windows user;)
[08:40] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: then check to see what the domain is
[08:40] <Bllz> it says it's mapped using a different user name and password
[08:40] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: make sure its the same domain that your ubuntu computer is on
[08:40] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: gnome failsave works but that would be vesa not nvidia
[08:40] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... what does that mean? lol
[08:40] <bloodrock> satokun, (hd1.0) point to the mbr partition hd1,1 would be the ext3 partiton
[08:40] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: how do i do that? mean the xorg.conf entry?
[08:41] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: whats gnome failsave? i mean in grub u can choose recovery mode or something like that
[08:41] <Bllz> remoteCTRL:  not sure what you mean.  it prompts me for a username and pass... i give it the username/pass that i used to create it in ubuntu, and it's apparently not mapped to that user
[08:41] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: and then u can choose to fix xorg.conf
[08:41] <Starnestommy> remoteCTRL: what do you mean?
[08:41] <satokun> bloodrock:  worth a shot.  back in a few.
[08:41] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: oh that you mean, yeah but thats just like running single user mode with less things avail...
[08:42] <Bllz> do i need to create an ubuntu user with the same credentials as my windows user?
[08:42] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: have you done it? i think you might be thinking of something else
[08:42] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: ﻿(09:39:03 AM) Starnestommy: remoteCTRL: try running "X :1" and see what errors that gives out
[08:42] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: yeah but as i repeatedly said now i have no need to fixy the xorg.conf as it does not represent the problem
[08:42] <remoteCTRL> ;)
[08:43] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: if ur connecting to a ubuntu share from vista, it should ask for username password and domain (at least in XP it does) and make sure all of the things u put in there are the same things as your ubuntu machine
[08:43] <Starnestommy> remoteCTRL: what errors are printed when you run the command Xorg :1?
[08:43] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... what's a domain... is that like the server's name?
[08:43] <remoteCTRL> oh! says command not found
[08:43] <Bllz> like ubuntu-desktop?
[08:44] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: i dont how you could be that positive about it being not xorg.conf's fault. your not telling me what you did to rule it out.
[08:44] <Starnestommy> remoteCTRL: what about X :1?
[08:44] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: go to system, administrator, network
[08:44] <remoteCTRL> Bllz: InvaderAmoto got a point in that, need to add the samba share to the workgroup to work properly...
[08:44] <KjetilK> anybody know at what time cron.weekly is run on a default ubuntu install, and how the time can be adjusted?
[08:44] <zachalink> yeah the funniest thing just happened which actually isn't that funny...
[08:44] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: you should find your domain there
[08:44] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: what the hell man?? i already told you sveral times:D
[08:45] <zachalink> after I installed my so called "restricted drivers" the flash is doing the same thing in firefox: producing no sound. help plz.
[08:45] <Negromancer> man aptitude
[08:45] <Negromancer> doh.
[08:45] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: same
[08:45] <babolat> KjetilK: not sure, but i think it counts from the moment you execute the cron job
[08:45] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... there's no listed domain name
[08:45] <Bllz> it's weird... my other shares work
[08:45] <Starnestommy> KjetilK: 0647 on sunday
[08:45] <Bllz> but they have guest access and other user access... what gives?
[08:45] <KjetilK> Starnestommy: ok, sounds good!
[08:45] <cn28h> which VM software would you recommend installing ubuntu server in? (kubuntu host)  I wanted to use qemu but it's not working
[08:45] <zachalink> *waits patiently*
[08:46] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: i told you for example that i let nvidia-xconfig create an all net xorg.conf that does produce exactly the same problems...
[08:46] <remoteCTRL> new not net
[08:46] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: did you look at all the options in network? also you could see what options you have for file sharing in ubntu
[08:46] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: well what if its nvidia-xconfig thats causing the problem
[08:46] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: i wouldnt rule out anything
[08:46] <kahrytan> Where is the source.list kept? Something keeps adding web to the list and screwing up apt.
[08:47] <zachalink> What were those one flash commands to get sound again?
[08:47] <bloodrock> zach try reinstalling flash?
[08:47] <Starnestommy> kahrytan: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: look i am quite familiar with xorg.conf i would actually say i know it by heart meanwhile, hehe
[08:47] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... yeah i'm looking at all four tabs...the domain name under the 'genera' tab is empty
[08:47] <zachalink> It won't let me. some error with the tar.gz I download at adobe.com
[08:47] <legend2440> remoteCTRL: have you tried envyng?
[08:47] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL: okay. well i tried.
[08:47] <InvaderAmoto> remoteCTRL:hehe
[08:47] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: i also had myself one sent by a friend
[08:47] <chunchun> anyone there to help me? please?
[08:48] <remoteCTRL> legend2440: nope i was strongly advised not to use that one
[08:48] <kahrytan> Does anyone know what keeps adding web option to source.list?
[08:48] <chunchun> umm i'm having some graphic and resolution problems
[08:48] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: when u installed ubuntu do u remember what u put for domain?
[08:48] <zachalink> k, I downloaded the tar.gz, now how do I install it? it's just af older...
[08:48] <bloodrock> zach how bout the flash plugin for firefox?
[08:48] <chunchun> i have tried about ever single guid ethere is on the web
[08:48] <remoteCTRL> InvaderAmoto: yeah you did man, appreciate it!;)
[08:48] <zachalink> that's what I have on
[08:48] <chunchun> will someone help me?
[08:48] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: or does it do that for you, i dont remember
[08:48] <zachalink> and it's malfunctioning... again
[08:48] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... yeah that's what i was asking earlier.  I called it "Home-Server"
[08:49] <Bllz> and i successfully mapped 3 network shares so far, but they were available to anyone on the network
[08:49] <InvaderAmoto> chunchun: whats your problem?
[08:49] <chunchun> anyone ther eto help?
[08:49] <remoteCTRL> zachalink: you were talkin about ..what?
[08:49] <Bllz> this last one is for my user only
[08:49] <Starnestommy> chunchun: what about http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto ?
[08:49] <chunchun> i can't seem to get my nvidia drivers working.
[08:49] <chunchun> yes i trrried that starnestommy
[08:49] <remoteCTRL> !ask | chunchun
[08:49] <ubot3> chunchun: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:49] <zachalink> Adobe flash malfunctioning in firefox 3 beta 5.
[08:49] <satokun> bloodrock:  back to disk read error 25 for both
[08:49] <chunchun> I am using Nvidia Geforce 9200GO
[08:49] <Starnestommy> chunchun: which drivers are you using, the ones in the driver manager?
[08:49] <zachalink> remoteCTRL: No sound whatsoever.
[08:49] <bloodrock> satokun,  damn
[08:49] <remoteCTRL> zachalink: oops good luck on that one...
[08:50] <zachalink> you're serious...
[08:50] <chunchun> starne, i tried the official drivers from the nvidia web and envyng but none of those worked.
[08:50] <insertable> hey all. my mouse loses control every now and then and my screen goes crazy. when i do a dmesg i get this error in there: [208774.789472] psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away. <-- does anyone know what this is and how to fix it? thanks
[08:50] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: i dont know if this is still a problem but you have to log out and log back in after creating the share in ubuntu
[08:50] <zachalink> You don't know anything on it?
[08:50] <j_a_v_n> Hi everybody! I run ubuntu on my PC which connects to the internet through a non-wireless router. Using a wireless usb stick on the PC is there any EASY way of sharing the internet(I'd like to connect my PDA). nm-applet doesn't seem to help much....
[08:50] <chunchun> i succesfully installed it, but once i restart, your computer is running on low graphics mode.
[08:50] <remoteCTRL> zachalink: yeah i am, flash on linux is crap... sry to say so but thats what its like...
[08:50] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: i thought they fixed it already but maybe not
[08:50] <bloodrock> satokun,  what bout just reinstalling 8.04?
[08:50] <kahrytan> Does anyone know what keeps adding web option to source.list?
[08:50] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... maybe that's it.  I think i did that after installing samba but let me try again
[08:50] <Bllz> i'll be back if it doesn't work
[08:51] <satokun> bloodrock:  would I be able to maintain all my programs and settings?
[08:51] <zachalink> wow dude.. just wow...
[08:51] <chunchun> well, anyone?
[08:51]  * Dr_willis edits   flash on linux is crap.  - > to read ' flash is crap.'  :)
[08:51] <legend2440> satokun: can you restore backup menu.lst?
[08:51] <bloodrock> satokun, not for 8.04
[08:51] <remoteCTRL> what is it with hardy and nvidia drivers??? somehow this is completely f***ed up:( rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[08:51] <bloodrock> sato another is to get a iso of supergrub
[08:52] <chunchun> so should i just use 7.4?
[08:52] <chunchun> or 4.10
[08:52] <Starnestommy> remoteCTRL: did you first try the ones in the driver manager?
[08:52] <chunchun> 7.10 because hardy doesn't work?
[08:52] <fbn> hi, is it possible to configure thunderbird to remove the -- bevore the signature?
[08:52] <remoteCTRL> Dr_willis: well i wouldnt go that far hehe
[08:52] <InvaderAmoto> chunchun: i wouldnt install them from the nvidia site
[08:52] <j_a_v_n> anyone?
[08:52] <chunchun> invader, i tried the hardware driver from the system settings
[08:52] <remoteCTRL> Starnestommy: well basically i started messing arround because i had a blank screen after upgrading to hardy in the first place..
[08:52] <chunchun> didn't work.
[08:52] <satokun> legend:  tried that as one of the first things I did, made no difference, and older than my last backup before I started wouldn't work because the configuration was way different
[08:52] <bloodrock> satokun,  i'm stumped can't figure where the prob is
[08:52] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto:  still doesn't work
[08:52] <Dr_willis> remoteCTRL,  i would. :) there was a site the other day with the '10 worse must have apps' :)  they really hammered on how flash is way abused/used too much :)
[08:52] <chunchun> damn ASUS W7SG NOTEBOOK
[08:53] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: ok. so when you try to connect to the share from vista what does it ask for?
[08:53] <zachalink> well what's the command to install a tar.gz type of thing?
[08:53] <remoteCTRL> Dr_willis: well you ouhgt not believe everything you read on the internet;)
[08:53] <satokun> bloodrock:  I can't make any changes on this computer, so unless I could get supergrub through the live cd it wouldn't help me
[08:53] <Nikunj1993> i cant boot anyone help!
[08:53] <Starnestommy> zachalink: extract it, then read the readme and install files that come with it
[08:53] <chunchun> help :( i have reinstalled ubuntu about 10 times now working with different ways of installing the driver
[08:53] <chunchun> but nothing works
[08:54] <Bllz> it asks for the user name and pass.  when I enter it, it says ẗhe network folder specified is currently mapped using a different user name and password.  To connect using a different user name and password, first disconnect any existing mappings to this network share.
[08:54] <zachalink> there is no readme
[08:54] <Dr_willis> remoteCTRL,  i just LOVE web sites with flash splash screens i gotta watch befor i enter! lets have more!
[08:54] <zachalink> and that's no help at all man
[08:54] <bloodrock> zach just double click on it it then should oen the unarcive program to unzip it
[08:54] <Dr_willis> zachalink,  you may want to check out http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[08:54] <Starnestommy> zachalink: what's the .tar.gz for?
[08:54] <insertable> hey all. my mouse loses control every now and then and my screen goes crazy. when i do a dmesg i get this error in there: [208774.789472] psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away. <-- does anyone know what this is and how to fix it? thanks
[08:54] <Insolsence> Hey people
[08:54] <zachalink> adobe flash player 9
[08:54] <j_a_v_n> Hi everybody! I run ubuntu on my PC which connects to the internet through a non-wireless router. Using a wireless usb stick on the PC is there any EASY way of sharing the internet(I'd like to connect my PDA). nm-applet doesn't seem to help much....
[08:54] <Dr_willis> zachalink,  theres no need to use the tar.gz for flash.
[08:55] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto:  for the reccord, the share shows up under the ubuntu box's "smb://home-server" directory
[08:55] <Dr_willis> !flash | zachalink
[08:55] <ubot3> zachalink: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:55] <zachalink> I'm reinstalling it
[08:55] <zachalink> because it's acting all screwy
[08:55] <chunchun> can someone just tell me if the geforce 9200 GO is even supported by ubuntu?
[08:55] <remoteCTRL> !wifi | j_a_v_n
[08:55] <ubot3> j_a_v_n: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:55] <bloodrock> zach tar.gz is a compressed file you have to uncompress it
[08:55] <Dr_willis> zachalink,  thats 'windows mentality' - i doubt if reinstalling will fix anything.
[08:55] <Bllz> invaderAmoto:  did you get the bit about the vista prompt and error dialogue?  I forgot to include yoru name in that message
[08:56] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: ya i got it
[08:56] <j_a_v_n> thanks
[08:56] <Bllz> kk ;-)
[08:56] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: i'm thinking about the problems i had with samba
[08:56] <chunchun> and btw
[08:56] <chunchun> changing the resolutions
[08:56] <Nikunj1993> i cannot boot anyone help please
[08:56] <chunchun> doesn't really change the resolution
[08:56] <chunchun> lol someone help :
[08:56] <chunchun> :(
[08:56] <free-cyber_ghost> hello brothers
[08:56] <bloodrock> satokun, it telling ya it can't find file right?
[08:57] <remoteCTRL> chunchun: change it in nvidia-settings? cos changing it in system/preferences/screen resolution dont grap...
[08:57] <zash> zachalink: reinstalling wont help anything unless the binaries and stuff have been broken or corrupted
[08:57] <zachalink> well I think it will.
[08:57] <zachalink> then what will help?
[08:57] <zachalink> this is bs
[08:57] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: try recreating the network place on the vista machine in the add network place wizard
[08:57] <chunchun> i can't open nvidia-settings because it says i don't have the xserver thing
[08:57] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: if that doesnt work, then i've run out of ideas.
[08:57] <chlorate> How do I mount an .mdf file?
[08:57] <Starnestommy> chlorate: xserver-xgl?
[08:57] <chunchun> whenever i install the driver succesfully it asks me that i have a low graphic mode when i boot
[08:58] <zash> zachalink: purging conf could help if you think reinstalling is a good idea
[08:58] <remoteCTRL> chunchun: well welcome to the damned club baby:D
[08:58] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... that's different from "map network drive" yes?
[08:58] <yaris123456789> what is the best alternative to winamp on ubuntu? with shoucast radio browser included ?
[08:58] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: hm. i think it is, but then again i've never even used vista
[08:58] <remoteCTRL> yaris123456789: well thats personal favors i perfer amarok
[08:58] <chlorate> Starnestommy: What do you mean?
[08:58] <yaris123456789> remoteCTRL: does it have shoutcast radio search ?
[08:59] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: what are your choices wehn your in network settings or places or whatever it is in vista?
[08:59] <krupa^> hey, whats worng here? i want to mirror a doc files from a website in a list and get only the 3th level max ... wget -r -l 3 -m -e -A doc --exclude-domains=*google* -i /home/alex/swf/list1.txt
[08:59] <Starnestommy> chlorate: sorry, I got confused and thought you were a different user
[08:59] <free-cyber_ghost> Hello everyone @
[08:59] <Dr_willis> theres stand alone sountcast 'browser' tools that can launch any player you like.
[08:59] <remoteCTRL> yaris123456789: yes it as a matter of fact comes with some 2000000000 streams;)
[08:59] <yaris123456789> nice
[08:59] <chunchun> i go back to VESA driver..
[08:59] <zash> yaris123456789: isnt shoutcast created by the same ppl behind winamp?
[08:59] <yaris123456789> donno
[08:59] <Dr_willis> zash,  which is AOL i belive. :)
[09:00] <zash> yaris123456789: wp says nullsoft
[09:00] <InvaderAmoto> chunchun: did u try reinstalling and just using the driver it gives you in hardware drivers?
[09:00] <compubomb> does anyone in here run ebox for ubuntu ?
[09:00] <yaris123456789> how is yum different from rpm?
[09:00] <chunchun> yes i have.
[09:00] <chlorate> Does anyone know how to mount an .mdf file?
[09:00] <remoteCTRL> zash: shoutcast is a "protocoll"
[09:00] <kahrytan> Does anyone know what keeps adding web option to source.list?
[09:00] <chunchun> like a million times
[09:00] <insertable> post #3 :/  my mouse loses control every now and then and my screen goes crazy. when i do a dmesg i get this error in there: [208774.789472] psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away. <-- does anyone know what this is and how to fix it? thanks
[09:00] <chunchun> in all different ways
[09:00] <chunchun> HELP :(
[09:00] <compubomb> chunchun: you talking to me ?
[09:00] <zash> remoteCTRL: "SHOUTcast is a multiplatform freeware digital audio streaming technology developed by Nullsoft. " --wikipedia
[09:00] <chunchun> i'm talking to whoever who can help me :(
[09:00] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... set up a connection or network?
[09:00] <compubomb> heh..
[09:00] <Dr_willis> chlorate,  from what ive read the 'fuseiso' web site says that fuseiso can mount them.. but dont expect copy protected games to work with wine.
[09:00] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: set up a connection
[09:00] <compubomb> i'm getting some funky errors when i run the ebox restart service
[09:00] <remoteCTRL> zash: congratulations, so?
[09:01] <godkas> anyone know how to deal with .001 , .002, etc.files in linux?
[09:01] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: wait no
[09:01] <chunchun> :(
[09:01] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: do the map network drive thing
[09:01] <compubomb> ebox keeps saying stuff like open: Permission denied * Restarting eBox module: logs
[09:01] <kingofbakas> bjr
[09:01] <chlorate> Dr_willis: I will try that, and what do you mean by copy protected games?
[09:01] <chunchun> when i go to
[09:01] <chunchun> hardware drivers
[09:01] <Dr_willis> chlorate,  games with copyu protection. :)
[09:01] <ikonia> chunchun: what's up ?
[09:01] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto:  that's what i've been doing
[09:01] <chunchun> it says nvidia accelerated grahpics deriver angled is chekced, but it says NOT IN USE :(
[09:01] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: if those r the only three things then map network drive is the one u want
[09:01] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: o.
[09:01] <Bllz> what if i changed the permissions on the directory under ubuntu?
[09:02] <Dr_willis> chlorate,  mdf files are normally used to warez such games. :)  it contains extra  disk info.
[09:02] <ikonia> chunchun: ok, if you tick the box that says "enable" what happens ?
[09:02] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: sry, i've got no more ideas
[09:02] <chunchun> it tells me
[09:02] <ikonia> Bllz: what directory ?
[09:02] <chunchun> to restart
[09:02] <ikonia> chunchun: ok, so restart
[09:02] <chunchun> i did
[09:02] <chlorate> Dr_willis: You read my like a book, but I shall try anyway! No copy protection will stop me. :P (I'm easily stopped..)
[09:02] <chunchun> and it says
[09:02] <chunchun> i'm in low grahpic mode
[09:02] <chunchun> and the whole thing repeats again
[09:02] <chunchun> lol
[09:02] <ikonia> chunchun: what card do you have ?
[09:02] <FloodBot3> chunchun: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:02] <Nikunj1993> i cannot boot any one please helppppp
[09:02] <Bllz> ikonia:  a directory i'm using as a private samba share for a vista client
[09:02] <Dr_willis> chlorate,  this is what 'no cd cracks' are for. :)
[09:02] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: hm. if the directory isnt accessible by you then making accessable would work
[09:02] <chunchun> Geforce GO 9200
[09:02] <co_mau> hayyy !!!
[09:02] <ikonia> chunchun: Hmmm 9200 one moment
[09:02] <Bllz> InvaderAmoto... I can access it in ubuntu though...
[09:02] <unimatrix9> i cant boot from usb, is there an boot cd that will help me do this any way?
[09:02] <chlorate> Dr_willis: ? In wine?
[09:03] <ikonia> Bllz: whats the problem (summary)
[09:03] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: oh. then try making it accessable by everyone
[09:03] <yaris123456789> when i install amarok through synaptic package manager...how can i access it? by going to start menu ?
[09:03] <InvaderAmoto> Bllz: if you dont fear security issues
[09:03] <Dr_willis> chlorate,  or on windows.. thers been MANY a sad case where ive had to track down a No-Cd crack for a Game Ive legally bought - to just get it to work on my actual window machines.
[09:03] <yaris123456789> is it possible to add it toe hdesktop ?
[09:03] <Dr_willis> chlorate,  copy protection is a MAJOR issue with wine and  some games.
[09:03] <kahrytan> Does anyone know what keeps adding web option to source.list?
[09:04] <ikonia> kahrytan: web option ?
[09:04] <chunchun> :(
[09:04] <InvaderAmoto> yaris123456789: is it in the menu? if not then try menu editor in preferencse to see if you can add it from there
[09:04] <yaris123456789> ok
[09:04] <kahrytan> ikonia,  yes, web to the end of source in the source.list
[09:04] <chunchun> SRY
[09:04] <yaris123456789> btw can i run wine to run starcraft ? i ran it fine on xp
[09:05] <ikonia> kahrytan: can you show me a line please.
[09:05] <chunchun> i meant Geforce 9300
[09:05] <yaris123456789> with 196 ram
[09:05] <chlorate> dr_willis: Argh. Well I think I am screwed then. But I will try anway. Hopefully since the game I got is considered gold then I will hopefully not have trouble.
[09:05] <chunchun> Geforce 9300 GO
[09:05] <ikonia> chunchun: just looking up your cards supportability
[09:05] <ikonia> chunchun: I'll be with you shortly
[09:05] <Bllz> ikonia:  my other samba shares work fine, but this one wont accept the username/pass under vista.  I'm using the username/pass that I used to create it under ubuntu
[09:05] <chunchun> where do i check that?
[09:05] <kahrytan> ikonia,  like umm deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main universe restricted multiverse web
[09:05] <InvaderAmoto> yaris123456789: i think it works but check appdb.winehq.org to make sure
[09:05] <ikonia> kahrytan: I didn't even know there was a "web" repo
[09:05] <yaris123456789> ok
[09:06] <kahrytan> ikonia,  something keeps adding it
[09:06] <Starnestommy> kahrytan: maybe system > administration > software sources
[09:06] <ikonia> kahrytan: well, try deleting it, then rebooting straight away, that way you will know if it's a boot process that updates it
[09:07] <chunchun> 12 straight hours of trying to work this piece of junk :(
[09:07] <zachalink> guys I need help (again)... out of the blue, just a few minutes after boot up all my sound stops working... for no apparent reason. can there be a fix to this please?
[09:07] <ikonia> chunchun: please be patient
[09:07] <kahrytan> ikonia, I just know it keeps breaking apt
[09:07] <InvaderAmoto> chunchun: i've have problems  (well actually have problems) with installing from the standard live disk
[09:07] <ikonia> kahrytan: try my suggestion
[09:07] <kahrytan> ikonia,  brb
[09:08] <InvaderAmoto> chunchun: i have to use the alternate install for my graphics card to work
[09:08] <InvaderAmoto> chunchun: i have no idea y but it works
[09:08] <chunchun> i can install fine :( but i can't get the graphic drivers to work
[09:08] <Bllz> ikonia:  vista says the share is bound to a different user... that's what i'm not getting
[09:08] <ikonia> Bllz: what's the permissions on the directory
[09:08] <ikonia> Bllz: at the file system level
[09:09] <Ashfire908> What package enables X forwarding?
[09:09] <ackbahr> Hi again! Can anyone help me configuring a remote control, or tell me where I can get help about this? Thanks!
[09:09] <ikonia> Ashfire908: through what ?
[09:09] <ikonia> Ashfire908: do you mean ssh
[09:09] <ikonia> ackbahr: you need the lirc package
[09:09] <Ashfire908> ikonia, ssh
[09:09] <ackbahr> ikonia: got it
[09:09] <ikonia> Ashfire908: openssh-server is the package
[09:10] <InvaderAmoto> ackbahr: for me it already works when i install ubuntu
[09:10] <chunchun> :(
[09:10] <Bllz> ikonia:  i'm reading this off of the Permissions tab under Properties:  owner = root (folder access = create adn delete files)  group = root (folder access=create adn delete) Others=create and delete
[09:10] <Ashfire908> ikonia, it has the function but it itself does not allow it to work
[09:10] <Bllz> ikonia:  is that filesystem level?
[09:10] <ackbahr> InvaderAmoto: Not for me.... What do you mean by "worked", and what config do you have?
[09:10] <InvaderAmoto> askbahr: i have a tv tuner card that came with a remote. try using the remote urs came with (assuming your using a tv tuner card)
[09:11] <Bllz> ikonia:  this is an NTFS filesystem under ubuntu if that matters...
[09:11] <miz_blue> goblok
[09:11] <Ashfire908> ikonia, there's something in xbase-clients that provides the functionality.
[09:11] <ikonia> Bllz: ok, so root is the owner of that file system at the file system level
[09:11] <chunchun> it also says my monitor is undetected and i have to use generic..
[09:11] <Bllz> ikonia:  yes
[09:11] <ikonia> Bllz: oooh your trying to share out an NTFS file system under linux
[09:11] <chunchun> althought i'm sure that i'm 1280x800 widescreen..
[09:11] <chunchun> but it still shows 800x600 after i configured it
[09:11] <ikonia> Bllz: that can get messy due to only read support without fuse
[09:11] <InvaderAmoto> ackbahr: like if i press vol up the volume will go up and play plays things if totem is open
[09:11] <InvaderAmoto> ackbahr: etc
[09:11] <Bllz> okay so i should format?
[09:11] <Bllz> is JFS okay?
[09:11] <miz_blue> wht
[09:12] <miz_blue> yahh
[09:12] <ikonia> Bllz: thats up to you, but I wouldn't share out NTFS file systems in anything else other than read only
[09:12] <co_mau> hay iiiikkkkk !!!
[09:12] <miz_blue> vgggv
[09:12] <ackbahr> InvaderAmoto: Ok, so worked from head to toe.... Well, it's not a TV card, it's a remote control that came with the laptop
[09:12] <steven> hi, can anybody tell me how i can get my Lexmark X1290 all in one printer working
[09:12] <Bllz> ikonia:  how come?
[09:12] <kahrytan> ikonia,  Nothing at start up does it
[09:12] <ikonia> Bllz: what's wrong with the more common ext3 based file systems
[09:12] <miz_blue> oooon loe
[09:12] <ikonia> kahrytan: cron ?
[09:12] <co_mau> maksudte loh !!!!?????
[09:12] <ikonia> Bllz: because of the situation I've just explained about ntfs support
[09:12] <co_mau> masik jadian ma lisa t ???
[09:12] <kahrytan> ikonia, How do i check that? Software Sources is no go
[09:12] <chunchun> Help :(
[09:12] <Bllz> ikonia:  ext3 is slower than jfs if i'm not mistaken.  then again this is a USB HDD so that will probably be the bottleneck.  You reccomend ext3 then?
[09:12] <ikonia> kahrytan: check your users crontab
[09:13] <miz_blue> pedekate bajunggak gante sudaseharian loe kagak mnde
[09:13] <ikonia> Bllz: your using samba.....the bottleneck will be the network stack interface to your remote disk.
[09:13] <co_mau> maksudte bacaanen ta chatq
[09:13] <ikonia> Bllz: worse if it's usb like you said
[09:13] <kahrytan> ikonia,  Nothing.
[09:13] <miz_blue> pelupa
[09:13] <ikonia> kahrytan: ok, so in that case it must be when you have an application running
[09:13] <InvaderAmoto> i'll see everyone another time. I need to get some sleep. bye
[09:13] <kahrytan> ikonia,  no crontab for root
[09:13] <co_mau> nyoting!!! nyoto g penting !!1
[09:13] <chunchun> Help :(
[09:13] <ikonia> chunchun: stoppleases
[09:14] <miz_blue> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolig
[09:14] <kahrytan> ikonia,  It would have to be a app that has root access
[09:14] <ikonia> miz_blue: stop that please
[09:14] <ikonia> kahrytan: yes, something you invoke with root permissions or part of the desktop
[09:14] <Bllz> ikonia:  okay.  now the thing is i defaulted to that because i was having issues being allowed to create directories under ext3... i had to create the ntfs volume under windows (belive it or not)  i'll try again and then come back if I have problems
[09:14] <Flannel> !id | miz_blue
[09:14] <ubot3> miz_blue: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[09:14] <co_mau> dodoli dodolipet
[09:14] <miz_blue> you punya pacar udah blm?
[09:14] <co_mau> u ngmnag ma sapa ndul m?
[09:14] <ikonia> Bllz: please do
[09:15] <Flannel> co_mau, miz_blue, /join #ubuntu-id
[09:15] <miz_blue> gak cuma bercanda kojk
[09:15] <kahrytan> ikonia,  Is there a way to monitor source.list?
[09:15] <Bllz> ikonia:  ok thanks for the help thus far!
[09:15] <co_mau> maksute i meneketehek
[09:15] <co_mau> u dah pux pcr baru ya ?????
[09:15] <miz_blue> yau mau ndak jd macar tmn q
[09:16] <miz_blue> jawab donk
[09:16] <ikonia> kahrytan: a shell script could alert you to changes, but tracking what changes it could be a problem, but possible with another script
[09:16] <ikonia> Bllz: no problem
[09:16] <ikonia> co_mau: miz_blue please stop
[09:16] <ikonia> co_mau: miz_blue this channel is english only
[09:16] <co_mau> mang temen u cakep t ?????
[09:16] <kahrytan> ikonia,  I wouldnt know how t do that.
[09:16] <ikonia> kahrytan: just need to do a while loop and monitor it from a difference,
[09:17] <ikonia> kahrytan: or you could try changing the permissions of sources.list to read only and see if an application complains
[09:17] <kahrytan> compare original to current?
[09:17] <co_mau> ikonia : EGP  where u pople ?
[09:17] <miz_blue> temui ak di probolinggo di jln krtini
[09:17] <ikonia> kahrytan: yup
[09:17] <ikonia> co_mau: it doesn't matter, this channel is english only please
[09:17] <miz_blue> yu cewek
[09:17] <kahrytan> ikonia,  Easiest would to monitor modification date
[09:17] <cypha> Starnestommy, where you from?
[09:17] <chunchun> ikonia
[09:17] <ikonia> miz_blue: please, last request, this channel is english only
[09:17] <chunchun> will you help me :(
[09:18] <co_mau> mank kartin itu di mana ?????
[09:18] <ikonia> kahrytan: dates don't always mean a file changes
[09:18] <miz_blue> you cewek apa bukan
[09:18] <cypha> what?
[09:18] <ikonia> chunchun: yes, I'm researching your card, it's a laptop card, yes ?
[09:18] <cypha> what language is that?
[09:18] <chunchun> yes
[09:18] <cypha> malaysian?
[09:18] <miz_blue> mau ndak jd pcr aku
[09:18] <chunchun> Geforce 9300 GO laptop card from ASUS W7Sg
[09:18] <Flannel> cypha: they're from indonesia, and have already been told.
[09:18] <co_mau> y cew lah !! masak bencong
[09:18] <cypha> just identify to services and pm each other
[09:18] <miz_blue> jwab donk
[09:18] <chunchun> •co_mau• cong ma ciba?
[09:18] <cypha> and tell your friends to stop msging me asking asl
[09:19] <Flannel> !ops | co_mau, miz_blue
[09:19] <ubot3> co_mau, miz_blue: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01!
[09:19] <chunchun> !ops
[09:19] <cypha> lol
[09:19] <chunchun> !lastseen
[09:19] <ubot3> Factoid lastseen not found
[09:19] <cypha> kinda strict Flannel
[09:19] <miz_blue> maksudloe apa an
[09:19] <chunchun> what happened? lol
[09:19] <cypha> i didn't think it was really required to tell you the truth
[09:19] <co_mau> chunchun: u speak in indoseia ??
[09:19] <chunchun> no
[09:20] <co_mau> oooo...  thanks !!
[09:20] <co_mau> u coubri where ??
[09:20] <ikonia> co_mau: STOP
[09:20] <Myrtti> co_mau: heads are starting to roll
[09:20] <Starnestommy> !ot
[09:20] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:20] <co_mau> hayyy iik
[09:20] <Myrtti> co_mau: stop
[09:20] <kahrytan> ikonia,  Do you think something like inotify would work?
[09:20] <ikonia> kahrytan: no
[09:20] <co_mau> u stop all !!
[09:21] <kahrytan> ikonia,  I should check launchpad first
[09:21] <ikonia> kahrytan: why ?
[09:21] <wers> can you help me with virtualbox? what do I select as Boot Hard Disk (primary master)?
[09:21] <ikonia> kahrytan: your welcome to of couse
[09:21] <ikonia> course
[09:22] <kahrytan> ikonia,  Why? because it's breaking apt
[09:22] <ikonia> kahrytan: but what is ? you don't know what, you may find it easier to try to figure out what's changing it then looking for the bug, but your of course welcome to search launchpad
[09:22] <satokun> I'm having a problem with a grub error 15 File not found...  that has persisted through a system reinstall.
[09:23] <kahrytan> ikonia,  I know it because when web is inserted, It  can't fetch updated repository.
[09:23] <samuel> How do I change the resolution of the login screen for the gnome GUI?
[09:23] <ikonia> kahrytan: I understand this, and I've given you my advice
[09:23] <chunchun> Help: My Geforce GO 9300 Nvidia card won't work on ubuntu even though i have tried every possibility to install the drivers in every way the web shows. Please Help!
[09:23] <ubuntu-lover> hi all
[09:24] <kahrytan> ikonia,  and someone may have found it first :-P
[09:24] <ubuntu-lover> help!!!how to make ubuntu live cd??
[09:24] <ikonia> kahrytan: why are you telling me this, I've said your welcome to search and I've given you methods of tracking it down
[09:25] <kahrytan> ikonia,  methods I cant use.
[09:25] <ikonia> kahrytan: of course you can, you can at least change the file to read only to see if a.) anything complains b.) make apt work as it won't get updated
[09:25] <kahrytan> ikonia,  But then allot of other apps will complain
[09:25] <cn28h> anyone here have luck installing 8.04 in qemu?
[09:25] <Myrtti> ubuntu-lover: download iso, burn, pop into cd, boot.
[09:26] <ikonia> kahrytan: no they won't
[09:26] <ikonia> kahrytan: no applications should be updating source.list
[09:26] <kahrytan> like Software Sources
[09:26] <cew> u can mean "jancok"????
[09:26] <ikonia> kahrytan: how often do you modify that ?
[09:26] <ubuntu-lover> thtats solve?
[09:26] <Bllz> ikonia:  i'm having that same problem with the ext3 partition.  there's a 'lost + found' directory in it (is that normal) and I can't create additional directories... the option is greyed out when I right click
[09:26] <ubuntu-lover> myrtti:thats solve
[09:26] <kahrytan> apt-get would too
[09:26] <ikonia> Bllz: lost+found is normal - don't worry
[09:26] <cew> helllo!!1
[09:26] <ikonia> kahrytan: no it wouldn't
[09:26] <ikonia> kahrytan: thats "read" access
[09:26] <ikonia> kahrytan: as in "read only"
[09:26] <kahrytan> oh wait. Whatever is used to add to it
[09:26] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <cew> heh rek jok lali ndelok uber cup yo
[09:27] <cew> taek
[09:27] <cew> hhe
[09:27] <Myrtti> cew: thanks for keeping in English
[09:27] <cew> duh g d balez !!
[09:27] <chunchun> anyone a pro in ubuntu can help?
[09:27] <cew> wz ngono yo !!
[09:27] <ubuntu-lover> HELP!!! how to make ubuntu LIVE CD???
[09:27] <Starnestommy> ubuntu-lover: a custom one?
[09:27] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: it is a lve cd
[09:27] <kahrytan> ubuntu-lover,  there is many different ways
[09:27] <Myrtti> cew: final warning, I'm going to ban you if you don't start using English after this warning.
[09:28] <chunchun> Myrtti
[09:28] <cew> hello good afternon!
[09:28] <ubuntu-lover> LIVE CD DIRECTKY ACCESS FROM CD THATS ONE
[09:28] <chunchun> are you a pro in ubuntu?
[09:28] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: don't use caps
[09:28] <Bllz> ikonia:  I may have  found a solution "gksudo nautilus /media/disk" and then change owner to my account?
[09:28] <ubuntu-lover> IKONIA:OK
[09:28] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: put in the ubuntu cd - boot it from your machine, and hey presto, your running a live d
[09:28] <cew> u can speak arab ???
[09:28] <ubuntu-lover> okonia:sry ok
[09:28] <Lardarse> Bllz: there is a command to change the owner of a file
[09:28] <Slart> !ar | cew
[09:28] <ubot3> cew: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe
[09:28] <Myrtti> cew: English, thank you
[09:28] <ubuntu-lover> ikonia:i am asking how to make live cd of ubuntu?
[09:29] <Starnestommy> cew: try #ubuntu-sa
[09:29] <Slart> ok.. that didn't work
[09:29] <ikonia> Bllz: the owner of the file system needs to be a.) something you can read/write to set it up, b.) something the connecting users can at least read
[09:29] <Bllz> Lardarse:  i just did it via GUI... is that bad? or does the command just do the same thing?
[09:29] <cew> myrtti : what u can mean"anjing loe" ?
[09:29] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: and I'm telling you, download the install cd, burn it, put it in your cD and boot it, it will run as a live cd
[09:29] <Lardarse> i have no idea... i just know that there's a command to do it
[09:29] <kahrytan> ikonia,  Ever consider an app might not complain?
[09:29] <Bllz> ikonia:  so if my account owns it and others can "access files" that ought to do it?
[09:29] <cew> starnestommy : hay ???
[09:29] <ubuntu-lover> ikonia:thats enough?
[09:29] <ikonia> kahrytan: yes it might not
[09:29] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: yes
[09:29] <HazemMohamed> Hi guys
[09:29] <chunchun> ikonia, found a solutin yet?
[09:29] <Myrtti> ubuntu-lover: that's enough
[09:29] <HazemMohamed> I'm ubuntu user
[09:29] <Starnestommy> !sa > cew
[09:30] <ubuntu-lover> ikonia:i have to burn iso image ??
[09:30] <HazemMohamed> I have a problem with my internet connection
[09:30] <ikonia> chunchun: your card appears to be supported by ubunut's latest drivers, I'm just reading on common issues
[09:30] <ikonia> ubuntu-lover: yes please.
[09:30] <Starnestommy> ubuntu-lover: to a disc, yes
[09:30] <cew> u can speak english or indonesia ??
[09:30] <chunchun> so what do i do ikonia?
[09:30] <ubuntu-lover> ikonia:ok thnx
[09:30] <ikonia> chunchun: I don't know at this moment
[09:30] <ubuntu-lover> satrenstommy:ok thnx
[09:30] <HazemMohamed> I think it is from arp
[09:30] <kahrytan> ikonia,  how about fcheck?
[09:30] <Bllz> ikonia:  what are "groups" anyway?
[09:30] <wathek> hello all I've a problem with cups I've installed cups 1.2.7 on my Debian Etch 4 and when I try to add a printer remotely I get this error : E [01/Jun/2008:11:09:00 +0200] encrypt_client: Unable to encrypt connection from 192.168.1.100!
[09:30] <HazemMohamed> I think it is arp flux
[09:30] <ikonia> kahrytan: nope
[09:30] <wathek> E [01/Jun/2008:11:09:00 +0200] encrypt_client: A TLS fatal alert has been received.
[09:30] <Myrtti> cew: this channel is English only
[09:30] <wers> how do i create a windows xp virtualbox?
[09:31] <cew> koen goblek elek nggak n tahu adus
[09:31] <ikonia> Bllz: your a regular windows user, yes/no ?
[09:31] <chunchun> lmao
[09:31] <Bllz> yes
[09:31] <insertable> hey all. my mouse loses control every now and then and my screen goes crazy. when i do a dmesg i get this error in there: [208774.789472] psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away. <-- does anyone know what this is and how to fix it? thanks
[09:31] <ikonia> Bllz: ok, same as windows, a user can belong to a multitude of groups, you can assign permissinos to groups like users
[09:31] <chunchun> i want help :(
[09:31] <Bllz> ikonia:  just getting my feet wet in the linux world... been good so far ;-)
[09:31] <kahrytan> ikonia,  you think adding web wouldnt change checksum?
[09:31] <Bllz> so a group is just that... a collection of users
[09:31] <HazemMohamed> though I have on ether device
[09:31] <ikonia> Bllz: I only asked about windows to give you something to relate to
[09:32] <ikonia> Bllz: thats it
[09:32] <DaveyJ> my mic doesnt seem to be working.. i've trial-and-errored all the inputs in audacity.. cant seem to get it to work =/
[09:32] <Bllz> right right. okay! makes sense!  thanks
[09:32] <ikonia> kahrytan: yes, it would change the checksum, but I don't think your method would work, of course your welcome to try it
[09:32] <DaveyJ> is there a way i can check?
[09:32] <Slart> insertable: disconnect and reconnect the mouse.. should work again
[09:32] <chunchun> i want help :(
[09:32] <ikonia> chunchun: we know
[09:32] <Slart> chunchun: ask your question
[09:32] <Bllz> chunchun, what's your problem?
[09:32] <darrend> insertable: are you using a KVM?
[09:32] <chunchun> yay
[09:32] <Myrtti> chunchun: sorry about the earlier
[09:32] <chunchun> attention
[09:32] <insertable> Slart: that stops it from having a seizure momentarily, until next time
[09:33] <chunchun> this is my problem.
[09:33] <insertable> darrend: KVM?
[09:33] <ikonia> Slart: Bllz nvidia 9300 not working at correct resolution with the nvidia-new driver
[09:33] <ikonia> Slart: Bllz as a summary for him
[09:33] <Starnestommy> chunchun: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia to see if your card is compatible
[09:33] <chunchun> I am using an ASUS W7Sg with a graphic card Nvidia 9300 GO which doesn't work with correct resolution no matter whatever i try and
[09:33] <Bllz> hmm.. chunchun... have you tried using envy?
[09:33] <darrend> insertable: switch box that allows multiple PC's/servers to share keyboard/video/mouse
[09:33] <chunchun> yes
[09:33] <chunchun> envyng
[09:33] <Slart> insertable: I don't really know what's causing it.. perhaps try playing with what driver you use
[09:33] <insertable> darrend: nope
[09:33] <ikonia> !envyng
[09:33] <ubot3> envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.
[09:33] <chunchun> tried that, and i tried installing directly from nvidia.com and also from the ubuntu driver hardwares
[09:34] <Bllz> chunchun:  out of advice then! lol sorry
[09:34] <HazemMohamed> It seems that no one wants to help :(
[09:34] <Slart> ikonia: ah.. thanks
[09:34] <Bllz> try ubuntuforums
[09:34] <ikonia> chunchun: you didn't need to use envy/or the drivers from nvidia, that could be the problem you've now messed up your install/modules
[09:34] <chunchun> ikonia
[09:34] <darrend> insertable: ok - I know this was a problem a couple of years ago in vanilla kernels, but seemed related to kvm hardware
[09:34] <Starnestommy> HazemMohamed: try stating your problem again
[09:34] <chunchun> i have reinstalled
[09:34] <chunchun> each time
[09:34] <chunchun> i changed the drivers
[09:34] <Flannel> !enter | chunchun
[09:34] <ubot3> chunchun: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:34] <chunchun> i can tell you i reinstalled at least 10 times lol!
[09:35] <Starnestommy> chunchun: I don't think I see that card on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[09:35] <kahrytan> ikonia,  it's read only now
[09:35] <chunchun> does that mean it won't work?
[09:35] <ikonia> chunchun: the nvidia-glx-new package should be enough to run that card
[09:35] <insertable> darrend: just using some generic ps/2 scroll mouse
[09:35] <HazemMohamed> when I used arping command to the router it pings to the right mac address
[09:35] <kahrytan> ikonia,  When I do find the app, ill report it so it doesnt do it
[09:35] <HazemMohamed> then after or 2 or 3 requests it is changed to another false address
[09:36] <Slart> Starnestommy: I think that page is outdated..
[09:36] <chunchun> okay then i shall reinstall it
[09:36] <chunchun> the whole ubuntu
[09:36] <chunchun> lol
[09:36] <darrend> insertable: did disconnecting/reconnecting it work ?
[09:36] <chunchun> !enter chunchun
[09:36] <ubot3> Factoid enter chunchun not found
[09:36] <kley> how to install  sun-java6-jdk  but  the 32 bit version  on a 64 bit ubuntu ?
[09:36] <insertable> darrend: nah, it still happens later on
[09:36] <Bllz> ikonia:  is it possible to have an smb share where anyone can read but only predefined users can write? ... is that the guest option?
[09:36] <chunchun> !enter | chunchun
[09:36] <insertable> darrend: it's pretty random
[09:36] <ikonia> kley: ubuntu is not multi-lib
[09:36] <[K4z3yu]> high-freq, I have an amd64 processor along with a Gefore 6800 gpu, 2GB ram and 2 SATA drives. I had Ubuntu working on my previous computer and decied to try out 8.04 on this computer. I put the live disc in and run it, the loading goes smooth, but once the loading has finished, all I get is green and teal vertical stripes flickering on my screen. The same applies if I try to install it directly, I also tried an non-amd64 version of 7.10, b
[09:36] <[K4z3yu]> ut the same problem persists.
[09:37] <insertable> darrend: sometimes the screen will flicker for like 10 minutes at a time and i need to shutdown X
[09:37] <ikonia> Bllz: sure, you may want to look at the read= and write= options in the smb.conf file, as well as file ssytem permissions eg: everyone read only, but a specific group has read-write access
[09:37] <darrend> insertable: yeah, I know the symptoms :(
[09:37] <thegeek> I have a Windows partition and an Ubuntu partition and needed to do a clean re-install on the Windows partition.  So I did, and then used a recovery console to get GRUB re-installed and return to Ubuntu.  For some reason my video drivers and sound drivers have disappeared, even though the software is all still installed.  And who knows what else.  That's all I've found so far.  It's very strange.  Anyone know what could be wrong?  TIA
[09:37] <darrend> insertable: could be a dodgy mouse spamming the xserver
[09:37] <darrend> insertable: tried a different one?
[09:38] <chunchun> :(
[09:38] <insertable> darrend: could be. never happened with previous mice. and nah, is the only one i have for the moment :<
[09:38] <kahrytan> ikonia,  heres the error with web added "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[09:38] <insertable> darrend: trainee wages..
[09:38] <ikonia> kahrytan: I know what the error will be
[09:38] <kley> so i need  the  32bit java  package  to run  sun's wtk ,i got it working   by  installing  ia32-sun-java6-bin
[09:38] <darrend> insertable: sounds most likely.. I know for sure the kernel fix went in at around 2.6.11 or .12
[09:38] <ikonia> kahrytan: I understand the issue
[09:38] <kley> but  i need  jdk then
[09:39] <insertable> darrend: i'm using ubuntu server, instead of the desktop version. maybe there is something missing?
[09:40] <kahrytan> ikonia,  and im not the only one. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725217). last post
[09:40] <Bllz> ikonia:  same problem with the file share
[09:40] <notv> can i resize a partition i am using with gparted or something of the sort? it cant read ntfs so it wont let me unmount it or resize
[09:40] <insertable> darrend: i don't think it ever happened with the desktop version
[09:40] <ikonia> Bllz: what is the file system permissions ?
[09:40] <ikonia> kahrytan: I don't doubt you are the only one
[09:40] <Slart> chunchun: here's the supported cards for the latest nvidia driver... http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.05/README/appendix-a.html .. I don't see the 9300 Go anywhere on that list so I don't think it matter how many times you reinstall
[09:40] <renegade444> thegeek: hi again. I'd guess that you could disable then re-enable your video drivers to get them back, but I can't say I know why they got lost. Not sure about the audio drivers, but I'd again guess that the same uninstall/reinstall might fix it.
[09:40] <darrend> insertable: doubt it - the mouse handling is part of the kernel's core i/o drivers I think.  But then I don't use X on my servers
[09:40] <Bllz> ikonia:  "the network folder specified is currently mapped using a different user name and passsword.  to connect using a different user name and passworkd, first disconnect any existing mappings to this network share"
[09:41] <ikonia> Bllz: and thats from a windows machine ?
[09:41] <chunchun> lmao
[09:41] <Bllz> yes
[09:41] <chunchun> that means
[09:41] <chunchun> my graphic card will never work on ubuntu
[09:41] <insertable> darrend: well me either. we use ubuntu server at work.. just wanted to mess around with it at home
[09:41] <thegeek> renegade444: I looked in the "Restricted Drivers Manager" and the NVidia driver isn't even listed anymore!  Even though nvidia-glx-new is installed....o_O
[09:41] <ikonia> Bllz: that means the drive is already mapped on your windows machine, unmap it first
[09:41] <Bllz> ikonia:  i'm sorry... i don't understand
[09:42] <Dr_willis> chunchun,  untill nvidia updates their drivers.  perhaps.
[09:42] <ikonia> Bllz: it's saying the drive is already mapped as another user, if you want to change anything remove the current map first
[09:42] <Bllz> it's not mapped... afaik
[09:42] <chunchun> the latest GO driver is 7900
[09:42] <chunchun> mine is 9300
[09:42] <Bllz> mapped in windows?
[09:42] <ikonia> Bllz: where are you getting that error message ?
[09:42] <insertable> darrend: just a pain as i am on call tonight. trying to help a customer out over the phone and my fluxbox changes desktops every millisecond for 10 minutes
[09:43] <Dr_willis> chunchun,  now ya know why Linux users are big on nvidia and ati opening their drivers..  so  we wouldent have to wait on nvidia to release updates.
[09:43] <Bllz> when i try to map the drive and it prompts me for my passphrase, ikonia
[09:43] <tom__> yo
[09:43] <ikonia> Bllz: where are you getting that error
[09:43] <Bllz> on vista
[09:43] <Rishie> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop. The system hangs on step 1. Someone suggested it could be a device driver not responding causing the computer to hang. How could i rectify this?
[09:43] <ikonia> Bllz: ok, so that error is saying the drive is already mappyed
[09:44] <ikonia> mapped
[09:44] <Slart> Rishie: have you tried the alternate install ?
[09:44] <Bllz> ikonia. how come I don't see it in My Computer, then?
[09:44] <Slart> !alternate | Rishie
[09:44] <ubot3> Rishie: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[09:44] <ikonia> Bllz: that part I don't know
[09:44] <ikonia> Bllz: it's possible you have it open in a browser of some sort
[09:44] <Bllz> ikonia... i had to map the other ones manually
[09:44] <Bllz> i guess i could make it readable to all
[09:44] <kahrytan> ikonia,  I will probably never find the cause ofthe problem
[09:44] <Bllz> it's only hosting network backups
[09:44] <ikonia> Bllz: what user are you trying to connect as ?
[09:45] <gaurav_> ikonia:i have to make data disc that will contain a single disc image file or a disc that contain contents of the image file???
[09:45] <ikonia> kahrytan: thats your opinon
[09:45] <Bllz> my default linux user:  louist
[09:45] <ikonia> Bllz: does that user louist have read access to the disk ?
[09:45] <darrend> insertable: you're working from home and they expect you to buy your own equipment to do it on??  I'd look for another employer :)
[09:45] <Bllz> yes
[09:45] <Bllz> he owns it
[09:45] <Rishie> Thanks guys. I'll check that option out.
[09:45] <darrend> insertable: may be easiest to leave the mouse disconnected until you can get a different one to try
[09:45] <kahrytan> ikonia, im no good at bug hunting
[09:45] <ikonia> Bllz: ok, and is there a samba user created that maps to your linux uer and does the password match ?
[09:45] <ikonia> kahrytan: ok
[09:46] <Bllz> no. the windows logon is different
[09:46] <darrend> insertable: operate fluxbox with key bindings
[09:46] <Bllz> is that the problem?
[09:46] <gaurav_> help!!for live cd i have to make data disc that will contain a single disc image file or a disc that contain contents of the image file???
[09:46] <ikonia> Bllz: ok - so you have to map the drive using the linux users name
[09:46] <ikonia> Bllz: I think there is an option in windows that says "connect as a different user"
[09:46] <ikonia> Bllz: that is your problem
[09:46] <Starnestommy> gaurav_: a disc that contains the contents of the image file
[09:46] <Bllz> ikonia:  wait... when it promted me for a username/pass, I gave it the linux one
[09:46] <insertable> darrend: heh yeah. my second straight week too. they said "some weekend work", they should of said "most". yah, i might have to just leave firefox open and unplug mouse for now. cheers :>
[09:47] <ikonia> Bllz: that doesn't always work, you may have to use the "connect as a different user" option
[09:47] <Dr_willis> gaurav_,  if its a single .iso on the disk - you burnt it wrong. Use a tool like 'burn at once' for windows  that burns the IMAGE to the disk.   You do not 'open' the iso and  copy the files.. you 'burn the image' to the cd.
[09:47] <Slart> gaurav_: you'll have to burn the image to a cd.. not as a big file but burn the contents of the image to the cd
[09:47] <gaurav_> starnestommy:sure?
[09:47] <Bllz> ooooooooh! okay!
[09:47] <Bllz> do you happen to know how i can access that in vista?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> !burn
[09:47] <ubot3> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:47] <Slart> !burniso | gaurav_
[09:47] <ubot3> gaurav_: To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:47] <Negromancer> is it still possible to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[09:47] <ikonia> Bllz: if your logged in as "bob" on the windows machine then it will try to connect to the samba share as "bob" - but bob doesn't exist, so on the windows machine you need to say, I'm bob, but please connect to the samba share as "steve"
[09:48] <ikonia> Negromancer: don't see why not
[09:48] <powertoo108> Negromancer: yes but why would you?
[09:48] <gaurav_> all u have  say different !!confused
[09:48] <Bllz> ikonia:  connect using a different name?
[09:48] <Negromancer> To get 7.10 so I can upgrade THAT to 8.04?
[09:48] <ikonia> Bllz: different username
[09:48] <johey> Using encrypted partitions seems to use a lot of cpu power. Is there any way to optimize it?
[09:48] <suRs> i need help!
[09:48] <ikonia> johey: nope
[09:48] <Ayabara> !night
[09:48] <ubot3> It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[09:48] <Dr_willis> gaurav_,  we are all saying the same thing. You Must burn the .iso file properly - whenyou do you will see lots of files on the cd. and it will be bootable.
[09:48] <ikonia> johey: encyption has an overhead
[09:48] <powertoo108> Negromancer: why not skip gutsy and go straight to hardy?
[09:48] <Bllz> ikonia:  okay.  right. thanks so much!
[09:49] <ikonia> Bllz: no problem
[09:49] <Negromancer> powertoo108: how do I do that? update-manager just shows me 7.10
[09:49] <gaurav_> dr_willis:okiz
[09:49] <Bllz> ikonia:  uh oh... same problem
[09:49] <Flannel> Negromancer: Yes, 7.10 is available, and yes, through update manager will work fine.
[09:49] <gaurav_> dr_willis:let me tru now thnx
[09:49] <Flannel> powertoo108: You can't go straight from 7.04 to 8.04
[09:49] <ikonia> Bllz: try mounting it as a samba share on the linux box, you'll get better error output
[09:49] <Dr_willis> gaurav_,  if using windows  try the program 'burn at once'  or any of a dozen 'iso image burning tools' that exist for windows
[09:50] <powertoo108> Negromancer: oh, ya i guess you have to get gutsy if you go through the update managers
[09:50] <Bllz> ikonia:  what's the command?
[09:50] <gaurav_> dr_willis:no iam using ubuntu
[09:50] <Negromancer> crap.
[09:50] <ikonia> Bllz: mount -t smbfs -o username=steve //server/share /mnt/point
[09:50] <Dr_willis> gaurav_,  then you should be able to just double click on the .iso under gnome I belive. and it will ask to burn it properly
[09:50] <Bllz> ikonia:  i see that share under smb://home-server alreay
[09:50] <Bllz> *already
[09:50] <powertoo108> Negromancer: i assumed you had /home on its own partition and was thinking just do a clean install
[09:50] <ikonia> Bllz: thats not mounted, thats browsing it
[09:50] <Dr_willis> gaurav_,  or  Right click on the ISO image file and choose Write to Disc.
[09:51] <johey> ikonia: I see. However, I have a single core 2.2 GHz AMD 64bit cpu. When I copy a big file to an encrypted partition, the machine is quite unusable for other tasks at the same time. Though, according to top, only about 20-60% of the cpu is used. Can't it use the full power, or why is this?
[09:51] <gaurav_> dr_willis:it asks me whether to "create from image" or "create with fike"
[09:51] <gaurav_> file*
[09:51] <ikonia> johey: hows your ram looking ?
[09:51] <Negromancer> powertoo108: when I installed this I was 100% linux-noob, didn't know to do that
[09:51] <johey> ikonia: 2 GB, no swap.
[09:51] <ikonia> johey: the over head is the conversation, you may not need cpu - you could also be waiting on disk io while the encyption "buffers"
[09:51] <powertoo108> Negromancer: understood, i did that also the first time
[09:52] <ikonia> johey: conversion that should read
[09:52] <Negromancer> Anyway, I just wondered if the 7.04-7.10 upgrade system is dead, because it just quits in the middle on me with no network activity
[09:52] <Bllz> ikonia:  can you check my syntax?   sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=louist //Home-Server/Network Backups /media
[09:53] <oboro-chan> hello, i'm trying to install 8.04 on an Intel Mac Mini, it installs fine, but it won't boot after the install, just keep in mind, that i don't have mac os x on that machine. any help please?
[09:53] <Dr_willis> Bllz,  spaces in share names - are a BAD idea.
[09:53] <ikonia> Bllz: ahhh spaces, you'll need to escape char them
[09:53] <KalEl> ubuntu classifies my hard disks as removable storage... is there any way to tell ubuntu that they are not?
[09:53] <Bllz> ikonia:  what's the escape char?
[09:54] <justin__> Hi room
[09:54] <oboro-chan> hey
[09:54] <Bllz> Dr_willis:  how bad?
[09:54] <chunchun> BAH :(
[09:54] <chunchun> STUPID NVIDIA!
[09:54] <Dr_willis> Bllz,  they just made you hit a brick wall dident they. :) I would rename the share and put a _ in its name
[09:54] <kahrytan> ikonia,  Would logs sure who accessed it?
[09:54] <Bllz> okay
[09:55] <Dr_willis> Bllz,  spacs, quotes, and other fancy chars = bad habbit. :)
[09:55] <johey> ikonia: Ok. I'm running Ubuntu Server on this new machine. 2.2 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 3x1TB SATA2 disks in a RAID5 array, system on a USB stick. It will be used only as a file server. Is encryption of the ~1.8TB RAID partition a too naive idea you think?
[09:55] <fserve> i need help!
[09:55] <Bllz> Dr_willis:  duely noted.  I'm still n00bing hard... lol
[09:55] <fserve> in what file is my session resolution(!)
[09:55] <oboro-chan> yeah i could use some help myself
[09:55] <Dr_willis> Bllz,  dont forget that CaSe SenSitiVity and Samba/shares Case INseneSitiviTy can cause issues also. :)
[09:55] <justin__> I am having problem with HDA NVidia sound card 6 channels are not working
[09:56] <kahrytan> ikonia,  im trying all kinda of apps to find the source
[09:56] <fserve> in what file is my session resolution (the_symbol_of_asks)
[09:56] <thegeek> Is there anyway to repeat the process of autoconfiguring GRUB like the install process does?
[09:57] <Negromancer> thegeek: super grub disk
[09:57] <Bllz> okay it's 5 am... i'm going to bed and tackling this tomorrow
[09:57] <thegeek> Negromancer: What?
[09:57] <Bllz> thanks everyone!
[09:57] <Dr_willis> thegeek,  if there is - ive never found it..   you basicially want the system to scan the whole machine and install all the proper entries for every os it finds right?
[09:57] <renegade444> thegeek: I was just trying to find a page on how to do that for you, lol, but I have so far failed
[09:57] <ikonia> kahrytan: why are you telling me this ?
[09:57] <Negromancer> thegeek: super grub disk is a disk you can use to do that, google for it
[09:58] <Negromancer> I keep it on a floppy just in case
[09:58] <Dr_willis> thegeek,  theres varioys ways to reconfigure grub..but ive not seen one that scans the whole machine and adds a proper entry for every os. (yet)
[09:58] <fserve> in what file is my gnome session resolution (the_symbol_of_asks) i got a trouble with that and cant start gnome2 again!
[09:58] <Negromancer> Dr_willis: I just told him a way :p
[09:58] <thegeek> Dr_willis, renegade444, and Negromancer: Actually, my ultimate goal here is to figure out why the devil installing Windows on an entirely separate partition made my Ubuntu act screwy by disabling drivers and stuff....someone in #linux suggested maybe my old GRUB installation had some options that I'm missing now :P
[09:59] <Dr_willis> Negromancer,  so you are saying that disk will generate a proper menu.lst just like the ubuntu installer does?
[09:59] <Negromancer> that is exactly what I am saying
[09:59] <Dr_willis> Negromancer,  adding an entry automatically for windows, and every linux install.
[09:59] <Negromancer> I think it can do that, yes
[09:59] <Dr_willis> Thats a neat trick. :)  wonder what app it uses.. and why theres not one in ubuntu by default for it,
[10:00] <Negromancer> its basic use is for pooched MBRs of that kind
[10:00] <Dr_willis> The ubuntu menu.lst has a lot more info then a normal grub  menu.lst has also. I might add... :)
[10:00] <Negromancer> it can also restore the windows bootloader
[10:00] <kahrytan> ikonia, EUREKA! found it
[10:00] <fserve> in what file is my gnome session resolution (the_symbol_of_asks) i got a trouble (changed rotation, then x crashed...) with that and cant start gnome2 again!
[10:01] <chunchun> err
[10:01] <renegade444> negromancer: I'm reading their site, and that looks really cool. Thanks for the tip, even if it wasn't intended for me ;)
[10:01] <chunchun> anyone gotthat list of supported linux nvidia drivers again?
[10:01] <chunchun> anyone gotthat list of supported linux nvidia drivers again?
[10:01] <nekostar> eh
[10:01] <Negromancer> :]
[10:01] <nekostar> i cant select wallpapers via the gnome-appearance-properties dealio
[10:01] <Dr_willis> thegeek,  i dotn see how grub could be affecting it at all.. I have had some weird hardware that if i  booted to Windows from a powered down state.. then rebooted to linux. the Devices wouldent get configured right. But if i powered DOWN and went to linux first.. they would get configured right.
[10:01] <nekostar> anyone else running into this?
[10:02] <thegeek> Dr_willis: Huh.  And this happened even with a working installation with the hardware configured and having been used for a while and everything?
[10:02] <Dr_willis> thegeek,  that sounds even weirder....
[10:02] <kahrytan> chunchun,  Supported by whom
[10:03] <thegeek> Dr_willis: I know!  It's really strange.
[10:03] <thegeek> Everything was working fine.
[10:03] <thegeek> I've been using it for months.
[10:03] <Dr_willis> thegeek,  all grub does is hand the system over the kernel.. once the kernel takes over.. grub is done.
[10:03] <chunchun> nvm
[10:03] <chunchun> stupid 9300 nvidia
[10:03] <thegeek> All I did was re-install Windows on a different partition, and then recover GRUB.  Then Ubuntu is all whacked out!
[10:03] <Vlad1975> Hi guys. can anyone advise me what to use to download some youtube clips?
[10:03] <Dr_willis> thegeek,  ive done that dozens of times also. and never had an issue.
[10:04] <thegeek> Dr_willis: ^ And yeah, I know what it does.  But this problem is so weird that I'm ready to accept just about any explanation.
[10:04] <renegade444> ﻿So, I'm trying to get my webcam working, and I found this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam but after adding the required repository, it says it can't connect to it. I triple checked the repository info, and I input it right according to the page. Is there any newer guide for getting my webcam working? Or anything else I might be doing wrong?
[10:04] <Dr_willis> thegeek,  bill gates snuck into your house and messed up your machien! go buy a Pit Bull!
[10:04] <Dr_willis> thegeek,  ive seen very weird things happen due to flakey hardware :(
[10:05] <tsukasa_> how do i change the startup to autologin to fluxbox
[10:05] <Dr_willis> tsukasa_,  select fluxbox as yoru default desktoop in the gdm login, then configure gdm to auto login. is how ive done it befor.
[10:06] <kahrytan> Dr_willis, ubufox is Plugin Finder service?
[10:06] <Dr_willis> kahrytan,  no idea. Ive not heard of that befor.
[10:06] <thegeek> Dr_willis: I'll admit I use integrated net/sound
[10:06] <kahrytan> Dr_willis,  trying to find package related to it.
[10:06] <_Master> im trying to install virtualbox does anyone know how i add my username to the "vboxusers" group...?
[10:06] <thegeek> Dr_willis: But my video card is the absolute shiz.  NVidia 8500 on an Asus card.
[10:06] <thegeek> And I've had it like 6 months.  I don't think the hardware can be blamed.
[10:07] <pengo> _Master: System | Admin.. | users and groups | Unlock
[10:07] <pengo> _Master: and you can work it out from there
[10:08] <Vlad1975> anyone know what application to use on downloading youtube clips?
[10:08] <maro> hi
[10:08] <Dr_willis> Vlad1975,  theres firefox plugins for that.
[10:08] <pengo> what's good for editing .ogg (video) files?
[10:08] <kahrytan> Dr_willis,  ubufox is the finder service
[10:08] <Dr_willis> Vlad1975,  and some web stes ive seen that download/convert them for you also.
[10:09] <kahrytan> Dr_willis,  or the part that installs plugins for people
[10:09] <_Master> are you familiar with virtualbox pengo?
[10:09] <pengo> _Master: not very
[10:09] <_Master> ugh
[10:09] <notv> can i get help with partitioning?
[10:09] <Raheem> !ubufox
[10:09] <ubot3> ubufox: Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration defaults and apt support. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5~beta1-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 60 kB, installed size 396 kB
[10:10] <Dr_willis> _Master,  sudo adduser <your login username>  THEGROUP
[10:10] <Dr_willis> _Master,  then that user MUST logout/back in
[10:10] <localhos1> hi, I just want to give an update: 2nd screen works now, I can move windows from the laptop to the second screen.
[10:10] <kahrytan> Raheem, ubufox is broken
[10:10] <cypha> will firefox test the same from a development standpoint as the one on windows?
[10:11] <localhos1> one prolem: the second screen isn't running in native resolution
[10:11] <_Master> should i add root to the group as well Dr_willis?
[10:11] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> how do i remove pop-up tips on gnome taskbar? :)
[10:11] <Dr_willis> _Master,  Ive never had to add root to a group befor.
[10:11] <kahrytan> Dr_willis,  Whats the options at the end of sources in source.list called?
[10:11] <zsh> is packages.ubuntu.com up?
[10:11] <kahrytan> nevermind/ bye
[10:12] <_Master> ok just wondering Dr_willis, logging out now...
[10:12] <localhos1> my entire desktop is now 2880x900 and my two native resolutions are 1440x900+1280+1024
[10:12] <cornix> Hi all. My question: I got a Pentium Core 2 Quad machine. Should I take the 64bit version of Ubuntu or should I still better go for the 32 bit edition?
[10:12] <localhos1> that means the second screen is streched and and fuzzy
[10:12] <k[5\5]> cornix, 32b ok
[10:14] <MarcoPau> hello, my wlan happens to idle quite often and I need to ifdown wlan1 ifup wlan1 every time. using an asus pci wifi adapter with ndiswrapper
[10:14] <suRs> hello everyone im trying to find  a system monitor with only text but i cant seems to find it anyone know know a good one i can search for?
[10:14] <Raheem> suRs . conky, may be
[10:15] <Raheem> !conky
[10:15] <ubot3> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.9-4 (hardy), package size 166 kB, installed size 496 kB
[10:15] <k[5\5]> !firefox
[10:15] <ubot3> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:15] <suRs> raheem were can i find it ? xfce.looks.org?
[10:15] <Raheem> it is in the repo
[10:16] <renegade444> ﻿So, I'm trying to get my webcam working, and I found this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam but after adding the required repository, it says it can't connect to it. I triple checked the repository info, and I input it right according to the page. Is there any newer guide for getting my webcam working? Or anything else I might be doing wrong?
[10:16] <Dutt> alexbobp: still here mate?
[10:16] <suRs> repo?
[10:16] <Raheem> it is in the ubuntu default or universe repositories
[10:16] <suRs> im using xubuntu
[10:17] <suRs> im kinda new with this so i have hard time to find it :p
[10:17] <localhos1> I used amdcccle
[10:17] <skillet> htop is nice
[10:17] <skillet> i like it
[10:18] <diaplo> hello
[10:18] <dbmoodb> hi there is a problem with the man files --- several options are no longer documented in the shutdown files so far as i can tell unless those have been removed (the options)
[10:18] <diaplo> how can I upgrade ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.4 ?
[10:19] <diaplo> I tried as suggested using the update manager, but I can't see the button for the upgrade
[10:19] <diaplo> Anyone knows how?
[10:19] <Raheem> !upgrade
[10:19] <ubot3> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:20] <dbmoodb> --- anyone know why there is no meant of shutdown -F ?
[10:20] <dbmoodb> --- fsck on reboot optoin
[10:20] <dbmoodb> option*
[10:20] <diaplo> thanks ubot3, but I tried what that page saysw
[10:20] <diaplo> says*
[10:21] <diaplo> I can't see the upgrade button when I lunch the update manager
[10:21]  * cornix sniggers
[10:21] <cornix> I'd so have a comment for that
[10:22] <bazzieb> quit
[10:22] <diaplo> should I download the alternative cd and use it for upgrading?
[10:22] <diaplo> or is there any possible other way to upgrade?
[10:22] <Raheem> diaplo ... what exactly is the issue ?
[10:23] <habit> Hello. Is graphical man pages viewer existing?
[10:23] <Raheem> did u try clicking on the check button ?
[10:23] <Dr_willis> dosent the gnomefile manager support the man:// type url?
[10:24] <pengo> habit: you can get man pages as html
[10:24] <pengo> habit: puppy linux does it. i dunno.
[10:25] <Dr_willis> habit,  i was thinking the gnome file manager had man:// type stuff that coulddo it also.. that might of been a KDE only thing.   There are some man -> html tools out
[10:26] <darrend> Dr_willis: I *think* that's a konqueror thing
[10:26] <habit> Thanks guys.
[10:26] <habit> )
[10:27] <pengo> Dr_willis: man has html output built in. it's just awkward to use
[10:27] <zitsep> hi
[10:28] <zitsep> there is a program to manage usplash screens and boot order, boot default. what is that? (i cannot remember)
[10:28] <Dr_willis> darrend,  technically its a kioslave. but i thought gnome had a similer feature
[10:28] <izm99> trying to install a 2nd ubuntu but use the same /home directory.  So far, it hasn't complained and the /home partition (it's separate) will not be formatted, but I'm a little nervous about clicking Install.
[10:29] <zitsep> one moment sorry...
[10:29] <izm99> my name is the same on the old and the new.
[10:29] <izm99> it asked me if I would like to import settings, so i said yes.
[10:29] <izm99> it won't overwrite anything, right?  Will it use the same directory?
[10:31] <Ienorand> Hello, could somebody help me do a simple speed test with Fx3 in Hardy, I am using some standard links (google *pedia, etc.) and putting them in a bookmarks folder. And then doing an "open all.." on that, this takes me 8 seconds, and Fx becomes very irresponsive, could somebody see if the same thing happens? Links are at: http://nopaste.info/8ff321609a.html
[10:31] <Ienorand> I've tested this in Fx2 on XP which gives me just 4 seconds...
[10:31] <ubuntu-lover> help!! it is safe to upgrade ubuntu from update manager or fresh install?
[10:31] <darrend> Dr_willis: not that I've found.  I miss konq's io slaves.
[10:32] <DanaG> Anybody know how to get iptables not to spam my dmesg?
[10:32] <DanaG> [27647.990771] IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:7f:ff:fa:00:16:01:d6:9b:a6:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.1 DST=239.255.255.250 LEN=367 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=4 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=1900 DPT=1900 LEN=347
[10:32] <DanaG> [27647.991781] IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:7f:ff:fa:00:16:01:d6:9b:a6:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.1 DST=239.255.255.250 LEN=369 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=4 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=1900 DPT=1900 LEN=349
[10:33] <DanaG> Like that..... over and over with various packets.
[10:33] <path_> hiiiiiiii
[10:33] <ubuntu-lover> help!! it is safe to upgrade ubuntu from update manager or fresh install?
[10:34] <agares> hello everyone...i've got a simple question... why does UBUNTU 8.04 work normally (little slow, but normal) on my Laptop HP....while on my PC which is alot stronger in RAM and processor it freezes randomly
[10:34] <agares> and i must say...this REALLY PISSES me off
[10:34] <icqnumber> !paste |DanaG:
[10:34] <ubot3> DanaG:: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:34] <DanaG> Anyway, I was just pasting two lines to make a point.
[10:35] <path_> can i introduce with u
[10:35] <agares> can anyone help me...does anyone else have similar problems?
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> can somebody pls pastebin me a functioning xorg.conf with nvidia drivers and 3d acceleration turned on?
[10:36] <cwgannon> ahoy
[10:36] <agares> ubuntu freezing randomly...mouse and everything else freezes.... and ican't do anything!! this can't be right...aren't new releases supposed to be BETTER not worse than the previous ones?
[10:36] <ubuntu-lover> help!! it is safe to upgrade ubuntu from update manager or fresh install?
[10:36] <agares> fresh install is best
[10:36] <ce_byasa_ajh> #Semarang
[10:36] <agares> upgrade is for those who don't want to loose settings and stuff
[10:36] <bazzieb> i am busy updating from alt cd right now
[10:36] <ubuntu-lover> agares:i have lot of stuff in that
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> agares: i definitley agree on tha man, i got nothing but trouble here...
[10:36] <DanaG> I don't usually do fresh installs.... I was forced to do one recently, and lost lots of stuff.
[10:37] <icqnumber> remoteCTRL: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[10:37] <DanaG> Settings, but not documents.
[10:37] <bazzieb> will let you know how it goes
[10:37] <agares> ubuntu-lover: if you are more of a beginner.... do a fresh install
[10:37] <agares> update-ing can cause alot of problems
[10:37] <remoteCTRL> icqnumber: tha would enter nvidia driver entries plus 3d accel??
[10:37] <habit> Hello again guys. I found how-to get manpages graphically. 'yelp man:interfaces' for example.
[10:37] <cwgannon> pastebin nvidia xorg w/ 3d: http://pastebin.com/m41572745
[10:37] <ubuntu-lover> agares:like?
[10:37] <agares> even though....a fresh install does too... my example...
[10:37] <demosthenes_> updating worked fairly well for me, ive never really had a problem with it
[10:37] <agares> ubuntu-lover: well...mainly slows thing down
[10:37] <ubuntu-lover> agares:lwhat kind of problems??
[10:38] <agares> my system randomly freezes
[10:38] <cwgannon> when i go to administration -> login window, nothing appears.  what can i do?
[10:38] <agares> under ubuntu 8.04
[10:38] <bazzieb> ubuntu-lover:i am doing a upgrade from 7.10 - 8.04 from alt cd right now, will let you know if it is a success
[10:38] <agares> and it pisses me off to that point that i'm going back to feisty 7.04
[10:38] <Dr_willis> remoteCTRL,  my nvidia xorg.conf -->                 http://paste.stgraber.org/5072
[10:38] <ubuntu-lover> bazzieb:ok
[10:38] <ubuntu-lover> bazzieb:ur yahoo id
[10:38] <remoteCTRL> Dr_willis: nice one, thanks!
[10:38] <bazzieb> i dont have one
[10:39] <ubuntu-lover> bazzieb:which msng u use?
[10:39] <bazzieb> skype and msn
[10:39] <icqnumber> remoteCTRL: it is a wizzard to recongigure screen and the key board
[10:39] <tianfeizhang> :)
[10:39] <agares> but or here noone knows what the problem is....or they simply don't care about my problem :((
[10:39] <ubuntu-lover> bazzieb:msn id?
[10:39] <DanaG> agares: first:
[10:39] <Ienorand> I was wondering, why isn't all package history included in synaptic, it's a bit annoying to have to go through /var/log/dpkg.log to find out what that was I install via gdebi... or apt...
[10:39] <bazzieb> ubuntu-lover: bazzieb@gmail.com
[10:39] <agares> DanaG: ??
[10:39] <DanaG> try enabling the proposed-updates repo and installing the -17 kernel.  It makes a BIG difference in scheduling.
[10:39] <remoteCTRL> Dr_willis: you dont use compiz, do you?
[10:40] <DanaG> (was typing the second line there.)
[10:40] <agares> oh
[10:40] <icqnumber> remoteCTRL: reconfigure* ... that is actually the way u have to set up ur xorg.conf file
[10:40] <Dr_willis> agares,   some of that stuff can be very hard to track down. if its due to new kernel updates.
[10:40] <agares> i have enabled the updates
[10:40] <Ienorand> ﻿DanaG: Nooo! at least not is on a laptop, that might brake suspend!
[10:40] <Dr_willis> remoteCTRL,  not really. but that dosent affect the xorg.conf  :)
[10:40] <agares> Dr_willis: how does that solve my problem? lol
[10:40] <agares> i've heard 1000 possible causes
[10:40] <DanaG> I have suspend work about 2/3 of the time, oddly enough.
[10:41] <agares> of which 500 was saying the same as you
[10:41] <remoteCTRL> Dr_willis: i am not sure if 3d accel runs unless you got an extendend section that says option "Composite"  "enable"
[10:41] <agares> that it's some kind of kernel problem
[10:41] <DanaG> There seems to be no easy pattern to when it works and when it doesn't.
[10:41] <Ienorand> see bug #226279
[10:41] <Dr_willis> agares,  check the forums for your exact hardware. and start troubleshooting.  I also have issues with hardy being slower on this box then the old release was.. laptop is good.
[10:41] <ubot3> Malone bug 226279 in linux "Kernel 2.6.24-17 - broken resume from suspend to RAM" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/226279
[10:41] <agares> Dr_willis: but it's not slow...it's fast for me
[10:41] <agares> it randomly freezes
[10:41] <icqnumber> agares: it can be everything... broken hardware, and so on try to find something usefull in the log files
[10:41] <agares> and i did already search the forum....i wouldn't be here...
[10:42] <bazzieb> how do i view all my files as list instead of setting it in every folder?
[10:42] <agares> if i hadn't checked the forum pre
[10:42] <agares> icqnumber: the log files don't show anything... because it freezes on random occasions....usualy when using firefox and switching windows
[10:42] <agares> and...i don't have any broken hardware
[10:43] <agares> i dont play soccer with my pc ;D
[10:43] <Ienorand> ﻿agares: compiz issues?
[10:43] <bazzieb> its called football
[10:43] <agares> Ienorand: i don't know!
[10:43] <agares> ;D
[10:43] <DanaG> bug 188226
[10:43] <icqnumber> agares: why are you so sure?
[10:43] <ubot3> Malone bug 188226 in linux "Kernel should use CONFIG_FAIR_CGROUP_SCHED" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188226
[10:43] <agares> icqnumber: because the previous release worked perfectly
[10:43] <agares> and because i know what i bought and when
[10:43] <agares> and vista and xp work normally
[10:44] <agares> and 7.04 works normally
[10:44] <Dutt> alexbobp: still here mate?
[10:44] <Ienorand> agares: Tried disabling compiz?
[10:44] <agares> 7.10 had some problems with the restricted drivers of ATI
[10:44] <agares> Ienorand: no... i haven't
[10:44] <ubuntu-lover> bazzieb:added u to msn
[10:44] <agares> what's the point in having ubuntu if i can't have those fancy effects ;D
[10:45] <agares> why don't they make a better driver for ati video cards and ubuntu
[10:45] <Ienorand> ( system > preferences > apperance > Visual Eff...
[10:45] <Ienorand> because ATI is lazy...
[10:46] <Starnestommy> agares: because ati doesn't want to make one or release full documentation for making drivers
[10:46] <taylan> hello
[10:46] <DanaG> Actually, ATI now IS working on releasing full specs.
[10:46] <DanaG> NVIDIA is the one who's now the closed-source badness.
[10:46] <DanaG> I've had enough of my nvidia.... so I'm actually going back to ATI this summer, oddly enough.
[10:47] <agares> so that means...i have to uninstall ubuntu
[10:47] <agares> and forget about it...till ati drivers become good?
[10:47] <Ienorand> Yes, but still nvidia WORKS better, at least that's what I've heard (have not tried nv myself, stuck with ati)...
[10:47] <zioshrek> ciao
[10:47] <agares> i don't like the system freezing while i'm in the middle of my work... lose all changes and shit
[10:47] <DanaG> I was getting odd freezes when using my onboard e1000 NIC.
[10:48] <zioshrek> !list
[10:48] <ubot3> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[10:48] <DanaG> I switched to a USB ethernet adapter, and the lockups stopped happening.
[10:48] <Dmitry_> how to start the x server from the console?
[10:48] <jagggy> euh, anyone else has the problem of urbanterror just changing screen widht and blocking your computer?
[10:48] <Starnestommy> Dmitry_: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start
[10:48] <agares> DanaG: i've read that someone else...had a problem with wireless or network stuff
[10:48] <Ienorand> Normally ati drivers work nowadays... but there's more issues than with nvidia I'm guessing...
[10:48] <agares> and that that is the cause of freezing the system...
[10:48] <Dmitry_> Starnestommy: thank you. :)
[10:49] <Dutt> when nvidia card it asks to reboot.. but when i boot bak up it is not enabled is there a way i can force to reinstall them
[10:49] <DanaG> e1000 is the wired one, actually.
[10:49] <hell|shock> hi, now anywhere who i can download gtk-hydra for ubuntu 8.04?
[10:49] <DanaG> I had to switch to wireless, or to a random USB ethernet adapter I had lying around.
[10:49] <agares> anyway...i'm not here to discuss whether ati or nvidia is better...i wan't to fix the goddamn freezing!!
[10:49] <Dutt> when i enable it*
[10:50] <jagggy> anyone else has the problem of urbanterror just changing screen widht and blocking your computer?
[10:50] <icqnumber> i have two cards ati and nvidia, and only nvidia works out of the box...
[10:51] <Vlad1975> what can use to open a .uif file?
[10:51] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> how do i remove pop-up tips on gnome taskbar? :)
[10:52] <ubuntu-lover> help!!in my upgrade manager there is option of 7.10 not havnin 8.04 !!currently using 7.04
[10:52] <Odd-rationale> how do i set the system --> pref --> keyboard shorcuts back to the defaults? I accidently pressed the wrong keys...
[10:52] <Starnestommy> ubuntu-lover: you must upgrade to 7.10 then to 8;-4
[10:52] <Starnestommy> *0.04
[10:52] <zioshrek> ciao
[10:52] <icqnumber> agares: see the fglrx log, read ati troubleshooting
[10:52] <Starnestommy> argh
[10:52] <zioshrek> !list
[10:52] <ubot3> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[10:52] <Ienorand> ﻿agares: I think the knowledge of this channel is spilt, I'd recommend a forum thread..
[10:52] <d_mitry> if i chose to log in via the console, how can i switch to the graphical mode?
[10:52] <ubuntu-lover> satrnestommy:cant upgreade from 7.o4?
[10:53] <Starnestommy> ubuntu-lover: you can, but you have to go to 7.10 first from 7.04
[10:53] <hell|shock> hi, now anywhere who i can download gtk-hydra for ubuntu 8.04?
[10:53] <Starnestommy> ubuntu-lover: then from 7.10 to 8.04
[10:53] <ubuntu-lover> satrnestommy:cant do directly from 7.04?
[10:53] <Starnestommy> ubuntu-lover: no.  Only indirectly
[10:54] <ubuntu-lover> satrnestommy:ok
[10:54] <icqnumber> agares: run in terminal: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[10:55] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: i was told that the manager is already running. maybe i'm trying to do the wrong thing. how could i switch to the graphics mode if i chose to log in from the console?
[10:55] <Starnestommy> hell|shock: you'll need to get it from their website and compile it from source
[10:55] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: ctrl+alt+f7
[10:55] <Dutt> when i enable my nvidia card it asks to reboot.. but when i boot bak up it is not enabled is there a way i can force to reinstall the drivers?
[10:55] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: that does nothing.
[10:56] <Dutt> it errors if i try to remove them
[10:56] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: try running startx &
[10:56] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: would i need to quit irssi to try that ccombination?
[10:56] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: probably not
[10:56] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: in that case, it doesn nothing.
[10:56] <hell|shock> i cant compile the package on this system... i need a deb. file
[10:56] <d_mitry> does*
[10:56] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: run ps aux | grep X
[10:56] <Starnestommy> hell|shock: there's no .deb
[10:57] <Ienorand> ﻿agares: /***/ as in starting a new thread, trying to give as much info as possible, about when and where it crashes. Also, try disabling compiz for a while and see what happens, then ate least we know it is/isn't compiz that is the bad boi...
[10:57] <naxa> how can i install awn in gutsy?
[10:57] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: would it be possible to use the console at the same time as using irssi? i'm thinking i could do that using screen, but that'd mean i'd have to disconnect again.
[10:58] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: you could use screen or have several consoles.  Just use Ctrl+Alt+F<number> to switch
[10:58] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: i.e. the first terminal is Ctrl+Alt+F1 and the sixth is Ctrl+Alt+F6
[10:58] <prince_jammys> naxa: stick that question in a google box and go to the first link
[10:58] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: ok. "process 0 (ps aux | grep X) terminated with return code 0"
[10:59] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: what about "ps aux | grep ?dm" ?
[10:59] <jagggy> anyone else has the problem of urbanterror just changing screen widht and blocking your computer?
[10:59] <naxa> prince_jammys, didn't work, that's why i ask
[11:01] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: same thing. was it correct of me to change ?dm to kdm-kde4?
[11:01] <Ienorand> ﻿jagggy: sorry, don't think we have any active urban terrorists in here...
[11:01] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: just keep it as ?dm
[11:02] <Ienorand> ﻿﻿jagggy: In what way does it block? like complete irresponsivness or something?
[11:02] <prince_jammys> that will match a literal question mark-dm
[11:02] <d_mitry> Starnestommy:
[11:03] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: actually, i don't think that's what i'm supposed to say. well, it said the same thing as before.
[11:04] <prince_jammys> naxa: here's a different way, from repository: http://devolio.com/blog/archives/82-Installing-Avant-Window-Navigator-in-Gutsy.html
[11:04] <Starnestommy> d_mitry: I'm not sure what's going on or how to fix it
[11:04] <Ienorand> Hello, could somebody help me do a simple speed test with Fx3 in Hardy, I am using some standard links (google *pedia, etc.) and putting them in a bookmarks folder. And then doing an "open all.." on that, this takes me 8 seconds, and Fx becomes very irresponsive, could somebody see if the same thing happens? Links are at: http://nopaste.info/8ff321609a.html
[11:04] <Ienorand> I've tested this in Fx2 on XP which gives me just 4 seconds...
[11:05] <Dr_willis> if trying to restart gdm/kdm the use of '?dm' can cause issues IF you have both installed.. since it will match both. :)
[11:05] <Ienorand> So something Is wrong
[11:05] <toni_qnoy> hy
[11:05] <prince_jammys> Dr_willis: it won't match either
[11:05] <d_mitry> Starnestommy: alright! thanks for your help. :)
[11:06] <Dr_willis> prince_jammys,  ive seen it match both.. :) had a hard time figureing that out for a guy.. of course its best to tell it gdm or kdm. depending on whats really there to be exact.
[11:06] <prince_jammys> not grep
[11:07] <prince_jammys> egrep
[11:07] <eth01> morning
[11:07] <prince_jammys> Dr_willis: question mark has no special meaning in a basic regex
[11:07] <Dr_willis> prince_jammys,  ok.  Ive seen ?dm used in the shell to restart the gdm/kdm server. it can cause  issues - i saw some example tha tused it that way.
[11:07] <prince_jammys> ok, in a glob, yeah
[11:07] <qwerty23> Does anyone know any webferret-like software for linux??
[11:08] <amikrop> Hello. Which is the best/easiest/most-straightforward way of using a Lucent Winmodem under a freshly installed Hardy Heron without Internet access?
[11:08] <Dr_willis> prince_jammys,  gave a reallly weird error mesage also. :) we was so confused for about 10 min.
[11:08] <taotao> ½Ô¤µ¤ó¡¡¤³¤ó¤Ð¤ó¤Ï
[11:08] <mooGirl> taotao said "皆さん　こんばんは" in GB2312, but we speak UTF8 here
[11:08] <eth01> !english
[11:08] <ubot3> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:08] <amikrop> !lucent
[11:08] <ubot3> Factoid lucent not found
[11:08] <amikrop> !winmodem
[11:08] <ubot3> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[11:08] <prince_jammys> Dr_willis: hehe. yeah, a ? will match any single char in a shell glob.
[11:11] <qwerty23> anyone knows of any multi web-engine search software?
[11:12] <bazzieb> hey there, just did an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 and its only been 30min but everything looks cool so far.
[11:13] <stahoo23> hello. I can't find repositories for Ubuntu-Studio 8.04, please help me.
[11:14] <Ardorin> Anybody know how to get Clutch working?
[11:14] <niner64> hi there you know i found the canadian servers were down when i installed 8.04 and had to switch to main
[11:14] <niner64> its easy to change them in the synaptic manager try that stahoo23
[11:17] <niner64> queston: please has anybody got thier HDMI port to work with the restricted drivers it "does" work with the default ones but there were blocky black graphics on a 64 bit 8.04 nvidia 8400 gs
[11:18] <scape> hi
[11:18] <scape> Can i use linux as a server??
[11:18] <[K4z3yu]> yes
[11:18] <eroch> heh
[11:18] <Dr_willis> scape,  of course.
[11:18] <scape> aha
[11:18] <niner64> it praticlly oozes server you
[11:19] <scape> guys i am new
[11:19] <[K4z3yu]> for once, I felt like I could contribute with an answer to a question here =)
[11:19] <scape> so i need to know about it
[11:19] <niner64> thats okay
[11:19] <DaveyJ> whats that command for seeing what app is using the sound system? also, is there a way to reset the soundsystem?
[11:19] <stahoo23> niner64: I need adressess to sources.list
[11:19] <prince_jammys> !server | scape
[11:19] <ubot3> scape: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[11:19] <niner64> i did on my first login!
[11:19] <Dr_willis> scape,  whats to know.. Instgall ubuntu, install the service you wish to serve.  confogure the service as you want.  :)
[11:19] <prince_jammys> scape: you don't HAVE to install the server edition to serve, but it's better to.
[11:19] <HappyHater> linux without a gui, scary
[11:20] <Dr_willis> ghess he dident want to know too much.
[11:20] <[K4z3yu]> for me yes
[11:20] <Dr_willis> HappyHater,  not at all.
[11:20] <eitri> hi, I got a quick question: What should I write to find the name of the sound card on my laptop?
[11:20] <eitri> in terminal..
[11:20] <Myrtti> eitri: sudo lshw
[11:20] <eitri> ok, thx
[11:20] <niner64> there all in main it starts with that extra country two character thing for the "close" servers of course prefered but there is a drop down menu to change to main server
[11:20] <HappyHater> I've only been on ubuntu for a couple months, I don't know much about using the shell
[11:20] <Paradoxx> My installation dosen't play mp3s in any app once I reopen any music app. Any ideas?
[11:20] <Paradoxx> !mp3
[11:20] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:20] <niner64> all those are already in it.
[11:21] <Ardorin> So I'm using the litghty webserver,but when I install clutch it makes me use apache2, any way I can change the dependencies?
[11:21] <DaveyJ> is there a command to restart the sound module?
[11:21] <DaveyJ> Paradoxx: i'm having the same problem
[11:21] <niner64> ogg is great!! btw
[11:21] <DaveyJ> originally if i closed out firefox when youtube was running, no other apps would work
[11:21] <DaveyJ> but now i closed otu of amarok, and it wont re-play
[11:21] <niner64> problem is getting your stuff to that format and there "are" tools for it
[11:21] <Paradoxx> DaveyJ, Any ideas?
[11:22] <Paradoxx> DaveyJ, I have the same problem myself
[11:22] <DaveyJ> wel i'm trying to see if theres a command to reset the sound system
[11:22] <[K4z3yu]> Hi. My amd64 computer with a Geforce 6800 GS gets flickerng green and teal vertical stripes whenever I get past the loading screen in either live mode or using wubi, any ideas on this?
[11:22] <DaveyJ> so far no luck
[11:22] <Paradoxx> DaveyJ, With amarok...
[11:22] <Paradoxx> kk
[11:22] <DaveyJ> but i mean once i closed amarok, it doesnt even work in vlc or movieplayer
[11:22] <DaveyJ> its likethe sound module is busy or something
[11:23] <niner64> you know i just had to "replace" a card with those stripes.. it's memory on the cards RAMDAC bad probably but don't take my word for it
[11:23] <[K4z3yu]> :(
[11:23] <niner64> test another card and then ditch it sorry
[11:23] <[K4z3yu]> I could need to replace my card eventually, but I don't want to just because ubunut is a bitch at my computer now
[11:23] <niner64> great thing is mine was under warranty WOOT
[11:23] <chunchun> hi
[11:24] <chunchun> i'm back again
[11:24] <[K4z3yu]> worked fine on my old computer with an AGP geforce 6200
[11:24] <niner64> and it works in windows without stripes?
[11:24] <[K4z3yu]> yes
[11:24] <csc`> hi chunchun
[11:24] <chunchun> i have a question. Will ATI X1950 Pro work with ubuntu?
[11:24] <DaveyJ> those lines i've seen many times... usually caused after an over-heat
[11:24] <[K4z3yu]> well
[11:24] <amikrop> Which is the best/easiest/most-straightforward way of using a Lucent Winmodem under a freshly installed Hardy Heron without Internet access?
[11:24] <niner64> are you SURE it still works maybe the move banged it up
[11:24] <chunchun> i have a question. Will ATI X1950 Pro work with ubuntu?
[11:24] <c0mp13371331337> Anyone know if it's possible to stretch a VNC client window running at 1024x768 to run TRUE fullscreen on a host running 1600x1200 with the default VNC viewer bundled with ubuntu?  (tsclient, vinagre, command-line vncviewers, etc)
[11:24] <[K4z3yu]> The stripes comes just AFTER finishing the loading screen
[11:24] <Myrtti> !hardware
[11:24] <ubot3> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[11:24] <Myrtti> chunchun: ^
[11:24] <chunchun> thanks
[11:25] <DaveyJ> [K4z3yu]: thats when the resolution changes
[11:25] <[K4z3yu]> It shouldn't be overheating, and it works perfectly in xp
[11:25] <niner64> that list is kinda small i didn't have post access was gonna um add some stuff that did lol
[11:25] <[K4z3yu]> yes
[11:25] <DaveyJ> if you run your desktop in 640x480, it'll probably work fine
[11:25] <DaveyJ> lol
[11:25] <[K4z3yu]> Yeah, my screen auto-configures prior to the stripes
[11:25] <amikrop> Let me state it otherwise: How do I install build-essential on a freshly installed system without Internet connection?
[11:25] <Myrtti> amikrop: pop in the cd, install.
[11:26] <niner64> get the cid
[11:26] <mojo> does anyone here know about LaTex? I don't know how to actually display a code within the document, is there any package?
[11:26] <[K4z3yu]> so any help on how I get past the flickering vertical stripes and get a  fix on it?
[11:26] <jimcooncat> c0mp13371331337: I believe so, though you have to specify the resolution on the vncserver
[11:26] <Myrtti> mojo: \usepackage{listings}
[11:26] <jimcooncat> c0mp13371331337: the vncserver doesn't automatically adjust to the client's wishes
[11:27] <Myrtti> mojo: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Packages/Listings
[11:27] <niner64> you could try to check cables take out video card run eraser on contacts wipe it off of course and install it back if it comes back in 2 days or an hour it's a bad ramdac
[11:27] <mojo> Myrtti: thanks thanks
[11:27] <eroch> Is there a way to get the userlist to display on the left or right side of the xchat window, instead of having to click the "user" button?
[11:27] <c0mp13371331337> jimcooncat: Ah, so I'd be connecting to a different display on the server rather than controlling the display that exists on that computer's main screen?
[11:28] <[K4z3yu]> Well
[11:28] <chunchun> OMG
[11:28] <chunchun> MYRTTI
[11:28] <jimcooncat> c0mp13371331337: you can do either. what are you using for a vnc server software?
[11:28] <chunchun> YOU MAY HAVE SAVED MY OTHER PROBLEM WITH THE UNSUPPOTED CARD !!! WOOHOO
[11:28] <amikrop> Myrtti: What CD? The 700MB regular install/live CD?
[11:28] <[K4z3yu]> I don't understand why it would work in win xp and in the loading screen then
[11:28] <chunchun> I NEVER TRIED THIS: sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview --enable-all-gpus
[11:29] <chunchun> THANK YOU!!!!
[11:29] <c0mp13371331337> jimcooncat: I'm just kinda looking for some hack-ish-ly stretched screen action client-side.  Using vino-server on the server.
[11:29] <niner64> or use a dvd if you can /use have access to one get one off distro watch and support open source if you don't have a friend nearby
[11:30] <Gin> none of my audio players is producing sound. they don't play at all
[11:30] <Gin> firefox is not started, so flash is not using the sound card
[11:30] <[K4z3yu]> niner
[11:30] <niner64> check that ALSA mixer is not muted and volume is up AND check that the device being used works try oss last if you can you'll be fine probably
[11:31] <jimcooncat> c0mp13371331337: well you can probably do that with client-side scaling, though I don't care for the looks
[11:31] <niner64> pulse shouldn't care if flash is (if i remember right)
[11:31] <cristian> salve a tutti
[11:31] <bazhang> !it | cristian
[11:31] <ubot3> cristian: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:32] <niner64> yes k4?
[11:32] <cristian> ok sorry
[11:32] <niner64> did i miss something?
[11:32] <[K4z3yu]> no sorry I thought you were talking to me :D
[11:32] <c0mp13371331337> jimcooncat: Sounds right up my ally, do you know if it can be done with the default vncviewers bundled in Ubuntu?
[11:32] <[K4z3yu]> or
[11:32] <niner64> np k4
[11:32] <jimcooncat> c0mp13371331337: I'll look
[11:32] <[K4z3yu]> do you know how I get past the Flickering screen and into some mode where I can try to fix it?
[11:32] <[K4z3yu]> ^^
[11:33] <Paradoxx> DaveyJ, hey, I figured it out
[11:33] <Paradoxx> DaveyJ, Try what the guy in post #2 says on this website http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2742327
[11:33] <niner64> it could be that the vertical and horizontal are being read wrong.. or outside scope of monitor if thats the case it should just go black tho
[11:34] <niner64> do you dual boot K4?
[11:34] <z0man> I have a silly question :( How safe is it upgrade Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04?
[11:34] <[K4z3yu]> yes
[11:34] <renegade444> So, I've been fighting my webcam all night, and I've finally gotten it mostly working using this driver and instructions: http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/Ov51xJpegHackedInstall unfortunately, while it appears to have worked at every step, when I try to use camorama to look at it the video is divided into 3 vertical b&w images instead of 1 color image. Any ideas where I can go from here?
[11:34] <[K4z3yu]> orudie, I iwsh to dual boot
[11:34] <[K4z3yu]> or*
[11:34] <niner64> on the same machine and only happens with linux?
[11:35] <[K4z3yu]> I wish to dual boot, I tried installing with wubi, and I get to opt between win xp and ubuntu
[11:35] <[K4z3yu]> win xp works fine
[11:35] <niner64> are you using the restriced or open source driver?
[11:35] <[K4z3yu]> but ubuntu loads up and then gets a flickering screen with vertical stripes
[11:35] <[K4z3yu]> no idea
[11:35] <chunchun> YIPPPPIE
[11:35] <niner64> ok i read something about a wubi crash in the release notes and some fix..
[11:36] <[K4z3yu]> I don't think it's wubi related
[11:36] <c0mp13371331337> z0man: I upgraded safely using the apt-get command to update to hardy, first time it's worked for me in 4 versions.  It was safe for me, YMMV though, so I'd backup just in case. ;-)
[11:36] <jcg> What antivirus can I use to scan Windows partition and NTFS drives in Ubuntu?
[11:36] <[K4z3yu]> because I get the same when I try to run the live cd
[11:36] <bazhang> !virus
[11:36] <ubot3> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:36] <niner64> grub comes up fie?
[11:36] <niner64> er fne?
[11:36] <Starnestommy> jcg: clamav?
[11:36] <[K4z3yu]> yes
[11:37] <jimcooncat> c0mp13371331337: I don't see scaling supported in apps in the Gutsy repositories. A forum post says the viewer from www.tightvnc.com does.
[11:37] <marmer> hy all
[11:37] <[K4z3yu]> running ubuntu directly from cd, both 7.10 and 8.04 and 8.04 installed with wubi, all end up just after the loading screen, with a flickering green and teal stripes
[11:37] <amikrop> Myrtti: What CD? The 700MB regular install/live CD?
[11:37] <niner64> try to reinstall it see what happens
[11:37] <localhos1> this is my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16163/ - This is a screenshot of the entire desktop: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25187958@N03/2540439941/ (red parts fall off the screen) - this is a photo of what I see on the second screen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25187958@N03/2541255412/ (should be a perfect circle)
[11:37] <z0man> Thanks c0mp13371331337
[11:37] <niner64> cuz it could be that something didn't read right OR...
[11:38] <localhos1> how can I make the second screen run in native resolution?
[11:38] <[K4z3yu]> or....
[11:38] <z0man> Well Before I do I'll do my back ups ^^
[11:38] <z0man> Also to make some space
[11:38] <niner64> you could set the video mode to pass to the kernel
[11:38] <niner64> from grub maybe
[11:38] <c0mp13371331337> jimcooncat: Thanks a ton for your help!  I'll give the tightvncviewer a try.
[11:38] <niner64> not sure about that one tho
[11:38] <[K4z3yu]> hm...
[11:39] <prince_jammys> [K4z3yu]: take a look at this, especially the post from the person with your card: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400744
[11:39] <[K4z3yu]> I'll have a lookie on the forum and wiki
[11:39] <[K4z3yu]> o thanks jammy
[11:39] <kla> hello I would need some help with my LAN connection Ubuntu 8.04 can somebody direct me
[11:39] <prince_jammys> [K4z3yu]: 'green stripes' was what missing from my googling :)
[11:39] <[K4z3yu]> hehe
[11:39] <flick> what is the temperature of my computer?
[11:40] <KalEl> can we measure chip temperatures in ubuntu?
[11:40] <jimcooncat> c0mp13371331337: yw. I've used scaling on UltraVNC client (win only). Like I said, I didn't like the look. I imagine you have to pay good attention to match the aspect ratio.
[11:40] <[K4z3yu]> almost same card as mine, but seems to be same problem
[11:40] <ubuntu-lover> kalel:yea
[11:40] <prince_jammys> [K4z3yu]: second post seems to be the same card
[11:40] <KalEl> how, man
[11:41] <[K4z3yu]> mine's a 6800 GS
[11:41] <KalEl> 8600 GTS
[11:41] <Rodderrick> Hello ..just dived in for a quick question ..Is there a quick way or getting ubuntu to allow permissions to folders. you see what happens is every time i upgrade or make a back-up .......when i come to re-install the folders they always seem to be locked??? so i have to drill down and manually allow the permissions which takes ages ...there mest be a easier way surely
[11:41] <ubuntu-lover> kalel:u have to install gadgets for that
[11:41] <prince_jammys> [K4z3yu]: oooh.. i was searching 6200
[11:41] <[K4z3yu]> I HAD a 6200 agp on my previous, and that ran ok and fully joy to go
[11:41] <[K4z3yu]> but the problem seems the same
[11:41] <niner64> make a bash script to do it for you?
[11:42] <aleman> hello, does anyone know where mysql have saved tables?
[11:42] <Starnestommy> aleman: /var/lib/mysql/
[11:42] <[K4z3yu]> jammy
[11:42] <ubuntu-lover> kalel:sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[11:42] <[K4z3yu]> card I'm using now is PCI-e
[11:42] <ubuntu-lover> kalel:type it in teminal
[11:42] <[K4z3yu]> and the thread seems to mainly ofocus the fix around agp :|
[11:42] <recon69> ﻿Rodderrick: look up chown and chmod
[11:43] <eitri> My sound became really noisy(bad) after upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 on my HO Pavilion dv600. Anyone here who heard of this problem before?
[11:43] <eitri> *HP
[11:43] <poopuser> hi guyz,i really need your help...i moved (fstab edit)home folder to another drive and my banto keeps whining about missing .dmrc file treating me "i need fmrc or i wont save your changes'.gentlemen what do i do now?
[11:43] <Rodderrick> is there one already availble
[11:43] <mojo> Myrtti: is there any explanation about why all the text in listing{} is not courier normal but courier bold italic? How could I set it up back to no bold courier?
[11:43] <aleman> Starnestommy: thank you
[11:43] <derspankster> I'm still unable to install Nvidia driver for my geforce 6600 in 8.04. Have tried for 2 days now
[11:43] <Rodderrick>  Hello ..just dived in for a quick question ..Is there a quick way or getting ubuntu to allow permissions to folders. you see what happens is every time i upgrade or make a back-up .......when i come to re-install the folders they always seem to be locked??? so i have to drill down and manually allow the permissions which takes ages ...there mest be a easier way surely
[11:43] <Myrtti> mojo: you'll have to refer to listings manual on that, sorry
[11:44] <_sp8472_> since hardy, my laptop sort of beeps like a cell phone when coming out of hibernation - what's causing this?
[11:44] <_sp8472_> there doesn't seem to be any sound set for this event
[11:44] <ponti> #kubuntu
[11:45] <_sp8472_> (just to be clear, these are actual sound card speaker beeps, not pc speaker beeps)
[11:46] <exot> hello guys, how can I create a full clone of my server for backup reasons ?
[11:46] <poopuser> hi guyz,i really need your help...i moved (fstab edit)home folder to another drive and my banto keeps whining about missing .dmrc file treating me "i need .dmrc or i wont save your changes'.gentlemen what do i do now?
[11:46] <prince_jammys> !clone | exot
[11:46] <ubot3> exot: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[11:46] <derspankster> !nvidia
[11:46] <ubot3> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <niner64> der i noticed the only way in 8.04 to get restriced to DL in gui mode without synaptic was to use the apperence visual set it to higher then it would grab it
[11:47] <niner64> just clicking enable in hardware thing didn't work
[11:47] <exot> prince_jammys, yeah .. I mean an exact copy
[11:47] <niner64> did you try that derspank
[11:48] <zvacet> exot : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html
[11:49] <amikrop> Myrtti: What CD? The 700MB regular install/live CD?
[11:49] <niner64> system > prefernces > apperence > visual efects (click the second or 3rd dot) it will install it for you then you reboot
[11:49] <tehgeek> Turns out it was GRUB....the script I used to re-configure it set the i386 kernel as the default instead of the generic one, and all my drivers are installed for the generic one.
[11:49] <tehgeek> Took me that long to figure it out.
[11:50] <kraut> hi
[11:50] <Myrtti> amikrop: hum?
[11:50] <kraut> i've got a lenovo T61, my fn+f5 key isn't working anymore and won't be recognized by acpi_listen. does anybody knows why?
[11:50] <poopuser> hi guyz,i really need your help...i moved (fstab edit)home folder to another drive and my banto keeps whining about missing .dmrc file treating me "i need .dmrc or i wont save your changes'.gentlemen what do i do now?IT'S NOT LIKE I AM STUBORN POSTING THIS 3RD TIME - I REALLY NEED HELP
[11:50] <niner64> ah grub....  its just so gubby
[11:50] <prince_jammys> exot: hm. that's trickier. try also #ubuntu-server
 amikrop: pop in the cd, install.
[11:51] <eitri> My sound became grudgy(bad) after upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 on my HP Pavilion dv6000(it was ok before). Anyone heard of this problem?
[11:51] <Myrtti> amikrop: should work with any cd, IMO.
[11:51] <niner64> why not copy back the original and restart the service??
[11:52] <amikrop> Myrtti: But I don't think the install/live CD contains any repositories.
[11:52] <amikrop> Or even any single extra packages.
[11:53] <bing_> hello i have turned off the routers firewall and ufw in ubuntu but im still getting messages all my ports are blocked, when ever i test with any programme such as utorrent or transmission, ive searched goodle and cant find a fix. why are my ports closed when i have no protection turned on
[11:54] <jimcooncat> bing_: perhaps your upstream is blocking your ports
[11:54] <Rodderrick> Help !  I am trying to copy some folders from another computer onto my ubuntu computer however i keep getting permission denied when i try to transfer?/  any help welcome
[11:54] <geddon> sudo scp
[11:54] <bobby> Problem,My panel's have disappeared from ubuntu 8.4,Im using xubuntu at the moment and Im happy with it..any idea's.this is the first problem iv ever had ,it must be my bad
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Rodderrick,  how are you trying to copy them?
[11:55] <Rodderrick> dragging them into the home folder
[11:55] <bing_> jimcooncat: with windows i can allow excepts in my firewall and everything is fine, this linux i dont understand, how do i check the upload
[11:56] <Rodderrick> the folders i am dragging all seem to have a padlock on them
[11:56] <koshari> scape sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql php5 phpmyadmin
[11:57] <niner64> and thats why you can't copy them cuz they are locked requires sudo to get privledge access
[11:57] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/fix-comcast-or-university-bittorrent.html bing_ check this
[11:57] <jimcooncat> bing_: then it's not your upstream if you can get through with a windows computer
[11:57] <amikrop> Myrtti: so?
[11:57] <Rodderrick> how do i get sudo?
[11:57] <jimcooncat> bing_ are you using a firewall in ubuntu?
[11:57] <bobsomebody> i have server 8.04 installed on a system that has integrated audio, this hardware worked fine on 7.04 desk, but i cant seem to get any audio using espeak or anything else
[11:57] <localhos1> dear lazychat, currently irssi dumps every channel in one window. how do I set upa split schreen?
[11:57] <Myrtti> amikrop: sorry, donno. I use alternate.
[11:58] <niner64> just type it in terminal and the privledged command you want as suggested before scp (secure copy)
[11:58] <legend2440> bobby: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352685
[11:58] <amikrop> Myrtti: Can you install packages from the CD (without Internet)?
[11:58] <bobby> Ok
[11:58] <Myrtti> amikrop: sure
[11:58] <Rodderrick> thanks ...will give it a try
[11:58]  * localhos1 away (0xf00d)
[11:58] <mark5t> Hi
[11:59] <koshari> Rodderrick in nautilus check the properties anf find out who the owner is
[11:59] <Greyhound-> does anyone have a non-scanned version of Tanenbaum's - Modern Operating Systems 2nd ed. ?
[11:59] <jimcooncat> bing_: a default Ubuntu install does not close any ports AFAIK
[11:59] <niner64> should be able to i would think most of them are already on your harddrive unless it's a different cd then the one you installed with
[11:59] <bazhang> Greyhound-, how does this relate to ubuntu support
[11:59] <mark5t> The usb ports in my laptop are gone.
[11:59] <geddon> open up a terminal and type in "sudo scp <file> <user>@<ip>://<destinationdir>" without the "s and inserting the values in <>
[11:59] <mark5t> How do I disable them
[11:59] <Greyhound-> operating system related...
[11:59] <mark5t> I keep getting a message power surge on port
[11:59] <Greyhound-> I figured this is a good a place as any to ask
[11:59] <bing_> jimcooncat:no i have all firewall turned off , im  getting max uoload and downloads with utorrent on windows
[12:00] <bazhang> Greyhound-, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[12:00] <Greyhound-> kthxbye
[12:01] <jimcooncat> bing_ for a test you could install openssh, then scan your ports from a web scanning site -- see if port 22 answers
[12:02] <bing_> ok will test now
[12:02] <amikrop> Myrtti: OK
[12:03] <damedyl> join #autohotkey
[12:03] <niner64> so when you use the composite manager you can't use two monitors? or should i look for something to attach it
[12:03] <b33r> Hello my pc got turned off by a power problem without proper shutdown now ubuntu finishes loading and freezes on startup with some strange hdd sounds, can anyone help me please?
[12:04] <Sladjannn> b33r, you shoul reinstal ubuntu
[12:04] <Sladjannn> should*
[12:04] <b33r> damn isn't there any other way?
[12:04] <b33r> :S
[12:04] <Myrtti> Sladjannn: how come?
[12:04] <Ched-> daftpumpkin: t'es moche
[12:04] <Sladjannn> Myrtti, ?
[12:04]  * daftpumpkin votekick Ched-
[12:05] <niner64> cuz fseck didn't survie fixing the file system maybe
[12:05] <bazhang> Sladjannn, that is last option-->always
[12:05] <Sladjannn> b33r, I don't know, it seems like big problem
[12:05] <Ched-> daftpumpkin: t'es quand meme moche
[12:05] <Ched-> daftpumpkin: ahahahahahahahaahahahahahah
[12:05] <Sladjannn> So if you know help him
[12:05] <niner64> you could use rescue cd and get your data off to another file system
[12:05] <bazhang> Ched-, english here please
[12:05]  * daftpumpkin voteban Ched-
[12:05] <spsneo> I am getting noise while recording with my mic, what to do?
[12:06] <Rodderrick> niner ..i tried what you sugessted but it didnt seem to work ...is there a easier way?
[12:06] <niner64> it is most like a groud issue
[12:06] <Lordveda> Peace to all
[12:06] <Lordveda> Are there usplash docs?
[12:06] <niner64> that IS the easiest way actualy
[12:06] <b33r> Sladjannn: if I reinstall do you I mean I have to format or just reinstall on same partition and nothing will be lost?
[12:06] <cinex> a tricky one. hwo can I make it so that the logging directory for amsn (~/.amsn) is non accessable to the user - but can still keep logs for root to read ?
[12:06] <bazhang> !usplash
[12:06] <ubot3> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[12:06] <niner64> did it download the driver ask you to reboot?
[12:06] <Myrtti> b33r: let's try other options first before you reinstall
[12:06] <soulhacker> spsneo:static get a better mic
[12:07] <Sladjannn> Myrtti, help him
[12:07] <jimcooncat> spsneo: try cleaning the plug and blowing out the jack with an air can
[12:07] <b33r> Myrtti: like what? :S
[12:07] <spsneo> soulhacker, is it a problem of mic?
[12:07] <kumelk> is it possible to install ubuntu server edition without any graphic elements ?
[12:07] <Myrtti> Sladjannn: note; do not suggest reinstallation as a first option to Ubuntu problems.
[12:07] <Arek_Nyar> ada yang dari indonesia ga ya?
[12:07] <kumelk> just command line
[12:07] <Myrtti> !id | Arek_Nyar
[12:07] <ubot3> Arek_Nyar: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[12:07] <Arek_Nyar> thax
[12:07] <ubuntu-lover> help!! what is ubuntu server edition??
[12:07] <Myrtti> b33r: you've checked the disk with fsck?
[12:07] <niner64> ahh you can install it without ALOT
[12:07] <prince_jammys> kumelk: that's the way it usually is
[12:07] <Sladjannn> Myrtti, it is a big problem if you know how to fix help him
[12:07] <soulhacker> spsneo:must be you can record right try minimizing envoirnment sounds close room,windows den try
[12:07] <b33r> Myrtti: what's fsch? :/
[12:08] <kumelk> oh right :)
[12:08] <spsneo> soulhacker, how to do that?
[12:08] <soulhacker> spsneo:do you have any other os??
[12:08] <bazhang> Sladjannn, please never suggest a reinstall as the first option
[12:09] <spsneo> soulhacker, no
[12:09] <niner64> fseck is the program that checks filesystems for erros when power dies or so many restarts etc. journaled filesystem and can fix most problems
[12:09] <recon69> thinking of upgrading my kernal to 2.6.25-1 to see if it stops my system locking-up, anyone want to comment ?
[12:09] <spsneo> soulhacker, only ubuntu hardy
[12:09] <Sladjannn> bazhang, ok,sorry!!
[12:09] <Myrtti> !fsck | b33r
[12:09] <ubot3> b33r: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[12:09] <niner64> but if it failed.. you can try again and see if it works or use a rescue CD to get your data if you know how to get at your data
[12:09] <soulhacker> spsneo:ok then u can hear your sound even with the static right??
[12:09] <rage> Hello, GDM will not start, log file says "AUDIT: Sun Jun 1 20:59:20 2008: 6679 X: client 2 rejected from local host (uid 106). I can see X start sucessfully very breifly before it stops working. And I can start X manually by running X from a tty. Any idea whats going on?
[12:09] <spsneo> no
[12:10] <rage> Oh and failsafe X does not launch either
[12:10] <soulhacker> spsneo:spsneo:you dont hear anything you record only static??
[12:10] <bing__>  jimcooncat:ive installed openshh how do i use it to test a port
[12:10] <b33r> ok thanks I'll check now :P)
[12:10] <niner64> check the log and see whats making it die
[12:11] <koshari> b33r try booting ubuntu withut the quiet or splash line in the grub entry and see if you can determine where it stalls
[12:12] <rage> niner64: If that was directed at me, the log file reports that AUDIT message I typed out above
[12:12] <Sladjannn> I can't set up 5.1 sound system... Does anyone know how to fix that?
[12:12] <wers> i cant use USB devices in virtualbox. any idea why?
[12:12] <bazhang> Sladjannn, hardy or gutsy
[12:12] <mohkohn> I have been following this document: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[12:12] <wers> I already followed instructions from http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-install-virtualbox-in-hardy-heron.html
[12:12] <bazhang> wers ose does not support it
[12:12] <Sladjannn> bazhang, hardy... when I had gutsy it worked
[12:12] <wers> bazhang, what can I use?
[12:12] <prince_jammys> rage: from a quick glance at some posts on the internet, it seems some people were able to resolve the problem by reinstalling their nvidia drivers
[12:13] <niner64> you said client 2 tho so you running two x servers?
[12:13] <nuno_nunes> I firefox is start in off line mode... plz help for change...
[12:13] <bazhang> wers either vmware-server or virtualbox from their site
[12:13] <niner64> did the first one work? and left the second fail?
[12:13] <pIRCuser19> ïðèâåò
[12:13] <mooGirl> pIRCuser19 said "镳桠弪" in GB2312, but we speak UTF8 here
[12:13] <pIRCuser19> :)
[12:13] <nuno_nunes> I using firefox 3 beta 5 in linux ubuntu 8.04
[12:13] <Sladjannn> bazhang, can u help me
[12:13] <mohkohn> What does he mean by this?:  Gateway for wireless0: 192.168.0.1" (where does the internet come from? us, of course. 192.168.0.1 will always be your own computer in most of the cases)."
[12:13] <nuno_nunes> need help...
[12:13] <Myrtti> !cn | pIRCuser19
[12:13] <ubot3> pIRCuser19: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[12:13] <rage> prince_jammys: So dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-xgl-new?
[12:13] <mohkohn> Does he mean the eth0 where my internet is coming in?
[12:13] <ghostknife> How can I make my system scan root fs? I want to do a full bad block + integrity + journal recovery the works?
[12:13] <bazhang> Sladjannn, looking now
[12:14] <prince_jammys> rage: i would look into it further before going that route
[12:14] <b33r> fsck.ext2: Is a directory while trying to open /media/disk
[12:14] <b33r> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[12:14] <b33r> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[12:14] <b33r> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[12:14] <b33r> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[12:14] <FloodBot3> b33r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:14] <b33r>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[12:14] <Sladjannn> bazhang, I tried a lot of things, but still nothing
[12:14] <pIRCuser19> ëîè
[12:14] <pIRCuser19> àâ
[12:14] <rage> unfortunately I lack an xserver at the moment to research the topic at lengh
[12:14] <pIRCuser19> ÷¸ êàâî?
[12:14] <mooGirl> pIRCuser19 said "鞲 赅忸?" in GB2312, but we speak UTF8 here
[12:14] <mohkohn> In which case it is today 202.93.10.220  and changes every day with DHCP
[12:14] <rage> I'm using bitchx
[12:14] <wers> bazhang, where do I get it?
[12:14] <pIRCuser19> âû îòêóäà âîîáùå ïîâûëåçàëè âñå?
[12:14] <pIRCuser19> :)
[12:14] <wers> bazhang, i installed it from http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.5.6/virtualbox_1.5.6-28266_Ubuntu_hardy_i386.deb
[12:14] <mark5t> can anyone tell me how to disable my usb ports
[12:15] <Ardorin> \join  #apache
[12:15] <soulhacker> Sladjannn:did u try the backports kernel??
[12:15] <Myrtti> Ardorin: too much LaTeX for you dear. We don't serve you anymore
[12:15] <Myrtti> Ardorin: ;-)
[12:15] <blackdream> need help =)
[12:15] <prince_jammys> rage: check some google hits for: ubuntu GDM will not start log file "AUDIT" "X: client 2 rejected from local host "
[12:16] <blackdream> c'est ici ou y'a un chan special ? =)
[12:16] <Sladjannn> soulhacker, no I didn't.. HOW?
[12:16] <Myrtti> !fr | blackdream
[12:16] <ubot3> blackdream: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[12:16] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776739 Sladjannn check here
[12:16] <rage> prince_jammys: unfortunately I lack an xserver at the moment to research the topic at lengh
[12:16] <blackdream> oh, yes thank you =)
[12:16] <niner64> rage: do you have a backup copy of your x.config files? no.. then reconfigure it
[12:16] <soulhacker> Sladjannn:is any of your sets working or no sound at all??
[12:16] <prince_jammys> rage: ah, try with www-browser in the meantime
[12:16] <Sladjannn> only 2 channel
[12:16] <rage> niner64: yes I have a backup, no neither has helped
[12:17] <spsneo> soulhacker, no i am able to record but with a lot of extra noise
[12:17] <Sladjannn> soulhacker, only 2 channel
[12:17] <rage> niner64: first things I tried, it appears to be a problem with gdm
[12:17] <Ardorin> Myrtti, hahahahaha. And I couldn't figure out why it didn't join.
[12:17] <b33r> Myrtti: what does this mean? :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/16166/
[12:17] <b33r> did I do it right?
[12:17] <rage> niner64: as I said above, I can start x by running the X command, so X itself seems to be working
[12:17] <Ardorin> Myrtti, I'm working on a math thesis. ;)
[12:17] <b33r> or I can't do it from boot cd?
[12:17] <niner64> did you try to reinstall gdm?
[12:17] <rage> niner64: I'll give it a go, cant hurt
[12:17] <soulhacker> spsneo:so your sound is coming it means there is no software or driver problem(with a good surety) so it must be harware
[12:18] <niner64> ok come back if that fails
[12:18] <soulhacker> spsneo:did u increase the recording sound from volume preferences??
[12:18] <spsneo> yup
[12:18] <chrismir> WOW... haha, I'm running a KDE session from another computer within a gnome session on this computer (through ssh -X). I didn't even knew that was possible like this! so cool!
[12:19] <rage> niner64: apt-get --reinstall install gdm sucessfully completed, no joy
[12:19] <cinex> oops
[12:19] <new2linux> hi all
[12:19] <soulhacker> Sladjannn:my sound didnt work to so i installed ubuntu backport kernel but in ur case i am not sure but its worth a try
[12:19] <new2linux> i've just added a new lan card to ubuntu hardy
[12:19] <chrismir> hi new2linux
[12:19] <spsneo> soulhacker, skype shows problem with audio playback
[12:19] <Myrtti> Ardorin: I've wondered the same thing myself in the past manymany times :-D
[12:19] <new2linux> but the network setting only reading 1 lan card
[12:19] <recon69> b33r: means that your file system is corrupt , you probably can fix it but you could also lose you data. you should proceed carefully.
[12:19] <new2linux> how to make the computer read the second lan card, help plz
[12:19] <b33r> damn ffs
[12:19] <cinex> i want to stop the kids deleting there logs
[12:20] <Myrtti> b33r: well is it a ext2?
[12:20] <b33r> I can't afford losing data
[12:20] <b33r> yes it's ext2
[12:20] <cristian> nkl[eo0=
[12:20] <cristian> xb,ldxhxhjfxxxxxxxxxxzxzxuel;;
[12:20] <bing__> does anyone know a web scanning site i can use to check ports
[12:20] <chrismir> new2linux: What kind of card are you using?
[12:20] <Myrtti> b33r: IMO, you need to have the drive not mounted to run fsck
[12:20] <new2linux> are there any add/remove hardware on ubuntu hardy?
[12:20] <soulhacker> spsneo:audio playback???ur audio works fine when you play songs or when ubuntu boots doesnt it or there is static??
[12:20] <Myrtti> cristian: are you done soon?
[12:20] <bazhang> cristian, english here please
[12:20] <new2linux> chrismir: 3com
[12:21] <breitling> hy all
[12:21] <breitling> i love ubuntu
[12:21] <spsneo> soulhacker, its perfectly fine
[12:21] <breitling> :)
[12:21] <b33r> Myrtti: after I unmount what command do I type? :/
[12:21] <breitling> i need some help please
[12:21] <Myrtti> find out which /dev/ the disc is first
[12:21] <cristian> xb,ldxhxhjfxxxxxxxxxxzxzxuel;;
[12:21] <Myrtti> b33r: then you can run fsck for that
[12:22] <chrismir> new2linux: Could you please be a bit more specific? Like type etc.
[12:22] <b33r> Myrtti: can you please tell me how to find out that?
[12:22] <thehurley> hello, there's a package that lets you show system information and performance on your desktop -- i've forgotten the name of it, can someone name a package they're familiar with that does this?
[12:22] <soulhacker> spsneo:so i dont think its a audio playback error i dont know how skype works never used it so better see their help/support
[12:22] <new2linux> chrismir: i'm not really sure the correct type of 3com, coz i can see any detail on it since i don't know where to look for the info of the device
[12:23] <Myrtti> b33r: type "mount" in terminal
[12:23] <new2linux> chrismir: i'm not really sure the correct type of 3com, coz i can'g see any detail on it since i don't know where to look for the info of the device
[12:23] <soulhacker> spsneo:regarding the sound problem i still think its a ahardware problem
[12:23] <breitling> i have a laptop i raze the volume but is stil low
[12:23] <breitling> :(
[12:23] <breitling> why?
[12:23] <niner64> b33r: if you look at your fstab file in ubunto 8.04 the default filesystem is EXT3..
[12:23] <chrismir> new2linux: Try 'lspci' on a terminal
[12:23] <b33r> Myrtti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16168/
[12:23] <spsneo> soulhacker, skype is now working i had to stop other playback devices
[12:24] <thehurley> breitling, have you opened up the volume options and raised the levels?
[12:24] <soulhacker> spsneo:so i still think its your hardware problem
[12:24] <chrismir> new2linux: all pci devices should show up wit that command
[12:24] <recon69> new2linux: try "lshw -C network"
[12:24] <breitling> yes
[12:24] <niner64> i look
[12:24] <spsneo> soulhacker, so what do i need to do
[12:24] <chrismir> recon69: thx, I didn't know about that one
[12:24] <breitling> is low
[12:24] <soulhacker> spsneo:search ur mic on google read its hardware review
[12:24] <anon111> breitling: which laptop do you use?
[12:25] <breitling> packard bell
[12:25] <mark5t> can someone help me
[12:25] <breitling> easy note
[12:25] <mark5t> I have 2 hardware problems
[12:25] <chunchun> bah, still doesn't work
[12:25] <Myrtti> hi klasu_ :-)
[12:25] <chunchun> someone has got to fix my nvidia 9300 even though it's not supported
[12:26] <Myrtti> b33r: erm.
[12:26] <breitling> thanks for the video drivers ubuntu :D
[12:26] <b33r> ??
[12:26] <new2linux> recon69: it only show 1 lan card, doen't read the other one
[12:26] <soulhacker> chunchun:try envy apt-get install envy
[12:26] <Myrtti> b33r: do you have a live/desktop install disc around?
[12:26] <anon111> breitling: Have you tried following these instructions? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=534070
[12:26] <b33r> Myrtti: I'm using it right now
[12:26] <Myrtti> b33r: excellent
[12:26] <nuno_nunes> I firefox is start in off line mode... plz help for change...
[12:26] <nuno_nunes> need help...
[12:26] <Myrtti> b33r: unmount /dev/sdb1 and run fsck for it
[12:26] <nuno_nunes> I firefox is start in off line mode... plz help for change...
[12:27] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: is the other card pci? and did you install it recently ?
[12:27] <chunchun> can i still play windows made games on ubuntu?
[12:27] <soulhacker> nuno_nunes:file>work offline click it
[12:27] <chunchun> can i still play windows made games on ubuntu?
[12:27] <soulhacker> chunchun:some
[12:27] <Myrtti> !wine | chunchun
[12:27] <ubot3> chunchun: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[12:27] <Starnestommy> chunchun: some of them, but you'll need wine or cedega
[12:27] <new2linux> recon69: i've just add the device to the computer and have the computer on. about to install it
[12:27] <Myrtti> !appsdb > chunchun
[12:27] <chunchun> wine huh
[12:27] <nuno_nunes> this a normal mode... plz help
[12:28] <new2linux> recon69: but, no pop windows saying anything to install the device
[12:28] <ottoshmidt_> Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.
[12:28] <breitling> anonlll thanks man
[12:28] <chunchun> no point using wine if the stupid ubuntu doesn't even reconize my driver
[12:28] <chunchun> lol
[12:29] <soulhacker> nuno_nunes:!.write wid my nic so i can see ur message clearly ok 2.does ur connection work properly??
[12:29] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: I'm just thinking you lan card is not plugged into the motherboard properly, but since I dont know what card we talking about it's a guess
[12:29] <bazhang> chunchun, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[12:29] <BeBoBli> Oh dang. Just as many people as usual.
[12:29] <chrismir> new2linux: Yes, I would try to reinstall the card, perhaps remove the other one, then startup and see if it recognizes
[12:30] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: make sure you computer is off before changing hardware :)
[12:30] <b33r> Myrtti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16170/
[12:30] <renegade444> Hi. I've been fighting my webcam all night, and after finding drivers, compiling them and getting them loaded, I find that this cam's still got issues. It appears to be some sort of video encoding problem. http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/FAQ#My_webcam_image_is_green_under_kopete_for_KDE_3.5....3F.3F Anyway, my current question: Is there an alternative to Camorama that has robust video encoding selection so maybe I can get my c
[12:30] <BeBoBli> I have a small problem. I have an external drive and I mistakingly made it an NTFS. I was hoping I could convert it back to FAT32 or even to ext3 without having to reformat. Is this at all possible?
[12:30] <new2linux> ok, i'll try that
[12:31] <popey> BeBoBli: not in one easy step, no
[12:31] <HristoVladev> hey
[12:31] <BeBoBli> I figured as much.
[12:31] <Aleksander-pl> Hello. Do You know how to change screen brightness on my Samsung R60+ notebook? Function keys nor GNOME applet don't work :/
[12:31] <Kaki> ima li srba?
[12:31] <popey> BeBoBli: you could shrink, create a new part, move stuff over and repeatedly grow/shrink
[12:31] <HristoVladev> can you tell me how to set up my nvidia drivers
[12:31] <HristoVladev> i can't find the restricted drivers menu
[12:31] <BeBoBli> popey oh it's big enough to do that all at once. What program do you reccomend I do this process with?
[12:32] <soulhacker> hristoVladev:get envy apt-get install envy
[12:32] <chrismir> HristoVladev: Depends on which nvidia card you've got
[12:32] <popey> BeBoBli: gparted
[12:32] <HristoVladev> MX 440
[12:32] <HristoVladev> geforce
[12:32] <BeBoBli> popey: note I am in windows right now... is that available for it?
[12:32] <popey> BeBoBli: no
[12:32] <prince_jammys> BeBoBli: there is a live CD
[12:32] <lightcone> I am using Hardy Heron. The apache web server is not working... I tried reinstali
[12:32] <BeBoBli> Then how would I be able to even move the files over anyways?\
[12:32] <popey> BeBoBli: you could boot off a gparted live cd
[12:32] <lightcone> I restarting it
[12:32] <prince_jammys> gparted | BeBoBli
[12:32] <chrismir> HristoVladev: If I'm correct that can be installed by nvidia-glx package
[12:32] <prince_jammys> !gparted | BeBoBli
[12:32] <ubot3> BeBoBli: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[12:33] <lightcone> also, I reinstalled it. Still, it is not working.
[12:33] <lightcone> what should I do?
[12:33] <prince_jammys> BeBoBli: just download that and boot off it
[12:33] <soulhacker> lightcone:/etc/init.d/apache2 start wat output??
[12:33] <renegade444> bebobli: you should be able to read the ntfs from linux and do the copying with linux after following their gparted instructions
[12:33] <BeBoBli> Thanks. This will do perhaps... is it in a GUI or will I be digging around a terminal
[12:33] <prince_jammys> BeBoBli: gui
[12:34] <BeBoBli> renegade444, Oh really... pretty interesting.
[12:34] <BeBoBli> Last I heard linux couldn't even read off of NTFS
[12:34] <AcornAcorn> !paste
[12:34] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:34] <lightcone> soulhacker:  Starting web server apache2                                httpd (pid 5860) already running
[12:34] <lightcone>                                                        [ OK ]
[12:34] <b33r> Myrtti: thee?
[12:34] <b33r> there*
[12:34] <prince_jammys> BeBoBli: it's not too difficult to use. the gui is good
[12:34] <renegade444> bebobli: the ntfs support is pretty matutre now
[12:34] <niner64> actualy we write to it well now muhhaa
[12:34] <BeBoBli> Really?! Awesome.
[12:35] <soulhacker> lightcone:cool do nmap localhost paste its output in ubuntu pastebin and give me link
[12:35] <BeBoBli> Definitely giving Ubuntu another shot if this is all true.
[12:35] <BeBoBli> The external drive is unreadable on another ubuntu machine so that's why I'm converting it
[12:35] <BeBoBli> But if you say that it can be read somehow I'll just format now.
[12:36] <BeBoBli> I mean format this laptop to use Ubuntu again.
[12:36] <scifiguy951> anyone know a good fileshareing program?
[12:36] <niner64> it's not gonna boot on NTFS thats for sure
[12:37] <niner64> deluge
[12:37] <soulhacker>      /msg nickserv set hidemail on
[12:37] <BeBoBli> niner64, Yeah, but it's an external. It's just where I am throwing all my extra files on.
[12:37] <niner64> transmission (in ubuntu) azeruas
[12:38] <renegade444> bebobli: if you were willing to do significant command-line on the older ubuntu install, you could probably make ntfs-3g work on it and read/write the drive without any formatting or re-installing.
[12:38] <niner64> BeBoBLI: then you should be fine with the fuse driver
[12:38] <scifiguy951> ????
[12:39] <niner64> ya 3g thats the one that writes well
[12:39] <renegade444> bebobli: but a fress hardy heron (8.04) install should read it be default
[12:39] <niner64> unless it's vista
[12:40] <niner64> or don't detect his drive but probably will
[12:40] <leo> hello
[12:40] <renegade444> niner64: unfortunately, there's always SOME snag ;)
[12:40] <niner64> or you use your second HD for linux and first for doze. ya
[12:41] <ForsakenSoul> does ubuntu 8.04 have restricted drivers manager ?
[12:41] <niner64> i remember when buntio wouldn't even boot on both my machines and now it's kinda nice
[12:42] <soulhacker> ForsakenSoul:yes
[12:42] <niner64> so im happier then i was previously
[12:42] <renegade444> forsakensoul: yes
[12:42] <leo> i'd like to boot freebsd w/ the grub that came with ubuntu. freebsd is installed on the 4th primary partition so i used hd(0,3) as root but it always tells me "error 17, cannot mount selected partition" any hints?
[12:42] <ForsakenSoul> where is  it ?
[12:42] <recon69> my gdm just restarted itself for no reason , thinking harder about changing kernel
[12:42] <soulhacker> ForsakenSoul:system>admininstration>hardware drivers
[12:42] <ForsakenSoul> ok 10x
[12:42] <simi> hi, can you suggest me a solution for free online file storage?i would like something that can be managed outside a beowser
[12:43] <soulhacker> sini:you are off-topic but have u ever heard of rapidshare
[12:43] <niner64> wouldn't we all like that maybe a GMAIL account has some storage options
[12:43] <soulhacker> simi:you are off-topic but have u ever heard of rapidshare
[12:44] <niner64> <makes note in head>
[12:44] <kthakore> I have firefox 3 rc1 with 8.10 and ever since I upgraded to hardy whenever I play flash video in firefox consecutively (about three times) firefox crashes. What can I do? I reinstalled every thing several times
[12:44] <gnomefreak> soulhacker: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:45] <gnomefreak> kthakore: you are usig hardy?
[12:45] <soulhacker> gnomefreak:i am not off topic it was simi
[12:45] <simi> soulhacker: i know about that, but you know that are services that provide you a online storage media and you can use that like a hard drive?
[12:45] <kthakore> gnomefreak, yes
[12:45] <soulhacker> simi:gmail:libgmail+fuse tried works good
[12:46] <new2linux> recon69: the lan card detected successfully, i guess there something wrong with the previous pci
[12:46] <gnomefreak> aoshi_: ah i see sorry you were telling someone else they were OT
[12:46] <new2linux> recon69: now the new installed lan card is intended for the internet connection and the embedded lan card is to face the network thin-client
[12:46] <gnomefreak> kthakore: i htink this is a bug i have seen before. are you on 32 or 64?
[12:47] <b33r> Myrtti: there?
[12:47] <new2linux> recon69: should i set static ip to the lan for the internet say eth1
[12:47] <gnomefreak> s/aoshi/soulhacker
[12:47] <simi> thx, and i am not offtopic because some services have windows installers or requiers sun java(not working with open source version of java)
[12:47] <BeBoBli> renegade444 she has the newest version of ubuntu and it can't read the drive
[12:47] <gnomefreak> simi: mine works fine in ubuntu (java 7)
[12:48] <AcornAcorn> what's the simplest most efficient way of compressing a folder?
[12:48] <Dutt> when i enable my nvidia card it asks to reboot.. but when i boot bak up it is not enabled is there a way i can force to reinstall the drivers?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> AcornAcorn: tar
[12:48] <chunchun> how do i get the box to come out in ubuntu?
[12:48] <chunchun> how do i get the box to come out in ubuntu?
[12:48] <poopuser> i moved home on separate partition and now xface is whining about .dmrc need to have 644 permission (or something) and it says that home should be owned only by user and only user can have privilages.so what do i need to do with .dmrc and what 'options' i need to set in fstab for home partition?
[12:48] <AcornAcorn> gnomefreak: when i use archive manager it just says adding files to archive and doesn't do anything
[12:48] <gnomefreak> AcornAcorn: right click it and you should get a dialog asking about what type or compression
[12:48] <kthakore> gnomefreak, 32
[12:48] <b33r> ubuntu freezes at startup after improper shutdown, I tried fsck it didn't work, does anyone have any other ideas??
[12:48] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: would suggest you set one card up at a time. also you should work out what your doing exactly , like what are the names of your two cards ect.
[12:48] <niner64> i used... system > preferences > appearence > visiual effects (select a dot) it worked for me the other way didn't
[12:48] <chunchun> how do i get the box to come out in ubuntu?
[12:49] <soulhacker> chunchun:ctrl+alt+left click now move mouse
[12:49] <Myrtti> b33r: yeah
[12:49] <b33r> Myrtti: it didn't work =(
[12:49] <chunchun> thanks
[12:49] <Myrtti> :-|
[12:49] <BeBoBli> Middle mouse button over the desktop?
[12:49] <soulhacker> chunchun:be more specific about problems this is a official channel
[12:49] <BeBoBli> and hold
[12:49] <chunchun> no one could solve my problems
[12:49] <chunchun> even if i asked it anyways
[12:50] <soulhacker> b33r:whats ur filesystem?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> kthakore: you might want to try flashplugin-nonfree from my PPA while i wait to push to backports
[12:50] <b33r> soulhacker: what do you mean? :/
[12:50] <niner64> looked like ext3 on his fstab paste
[12:50] <recon69> ﻿new2linux:so try network manager and see if you can get your internet card an ip address
[12:50] <soulhacker> b33r:filesystem typeext3,reiserfs?
[12:50] <kthakore> gnomefreak, PPA?
[12:50] <b33r> ext3 default one
[12:50] <kthakore> gnomefreak, how do I do that
[12:51] <poopuser> i moved home on separate partition and now xface is whining about .dmrc need to have 644 permission (or something) and it says that home should be owned only by user and only user can have privilages.so what do i need to do with .dmrc and what 'options' i need to set in fstab for home partition?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> kthakore: my PPA is at https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/+archive
[12:51] <soulhacker> gnomefreak:are u a memeber of the official ubuntu development team?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> kthakore: when you get there click the > sign on the libflashsupport and download it and install it using dpkg -i <file name> and than do same for the hardy version of flashplugin-nonfree
[12:52] <gnomefreak> soulhacker: not a member but i do package apps
[12:52] <bazhang> poopuser, try in #xubuntu
[12:52] <gnomefreak> soulhacker: i just havent applied :)
[12:52] <poopuser> i try kbthx
[12:53] <b33r> can anyone help me with my problem I have shitloads of work to do :S
[12:53] <niner64> soulhacker the line in question on his paste was /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk-1 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[12:53] <soulhacker> soulhacker:ok this is certainly off-topic but how do you apply and wat do u need 2 know??
[12:54] <soulhacker> gnomefreak:ok this is certainly off-topic but how do you apply and wat do u need 2 know??
[12:54] <xijaxio> 今晚主题是什么呀？
[12:54] <bazhang> !cn | xijaxio
[12:54] <ubot3> xijaxio: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[12:54] <renegade444> poopuser: The command to set ownership is: $ "sudo chown user:user FILENAME" the one for permissions is:  $ "chmod 644 FILENAME"
[12:54] <soulhacker> gnomefreak:just for package maintence not the team
[12:54] <gnomefreak> soulhacker: if you meant me you would need to read the docs on it, iirc #ubuntu-motu has links to help you or just ask in there
[12:55] <gnomefreak> soulhacker: you need to know how to package and read failures so you can fix them. best way to learn is to do it and ask questions you have in #ubuntu-motu they can answer most of them
[12:56] <niner64> b33r suda umount /dev/hdb1
[12:56] <TtyS2> what do i need for installing firefox 3 rc1 in terminal ubuntu 8.04 apt-get install firefox?
[12:56] <soulhacker> gnomefreak:thanks
[12:56] <niner64> sorry typing poor
[12:56] <niner64> sudo even
[12:56] <recon69> ﻿b33r: it's just that you could lose your data, so i dont what to be the dummy who helps mess up your HD. I'm not knowledgeable  enough to feel comfortable trying to help
[12:56] <gnomefreak> soulhacker: np
[12:56] <b33r> recon69: I can't afford to lose data :/
[12:56] <lightcone> soulhacker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16175
[12:57]  * gnomefreak gone for a bit i have things i need to get done
[12:57] <lightcone> soulhacker: about the apache server problem
[12:57] <recon69> ﻿b33r: I would suggest try the forums and take your time. identify the problem before trying to fix it.
[12:58] <Cleaner> www.hinthoroz.net
[12:58] <soulhacker> lightcone:i know took time so your 80 port is open u tried http://localhost
[12:58] <simi> soulhacker: libgmail and fuse are packaged? i can't find them
[12:58] <poopuser> renegade444 thx...i did so and i keep reciving same error fstab maybe?
[12:58] <soulhacker> sime:not pacakaged u have 2 get it
[12:58] <recon69> ﻿b33r: after you get it fixed BACKUP your data
[12:58] <soulhacker> simi:not pacakaged u have 2 get it
[12:58] <Dutt> how do i force a .deb file to install?
[12:58] <simi> soulhacker: ok
[12:59] <lightcone> soulhacker: yes... the server is now working
[12:59] <soulhacker> lightcone:wat was da problem then??
[12:59] <lightcone> soulhacker: but, when I enter http://<my IP address> , it doesnt work
[13:00] <bando> k
[13:00] <lightcone> soulhacker: it used to work initially
[13:00] <soulhacker> lightcone:wait i will give u da soln in just a sec
[13:00] <Dutt> how do i force a .deb Package to install?
[13:00] <tangmi> 哇  好多人哦
[13:00] <Myrtti> !cn | tangmi
[13:00] <ubot3> tangmi: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[13:01] <razaccour> i'm thinking about installing Debian is that a good move?
[13:01] <tangmi> ok
[13:01] <prince_jammys> sure
[13:01] <Starnestommy> razaccour: wht are you asking that in a channel that has a huge bias towards ubuntu?
[13:01] <soulhacker> lightcone:vi /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[13:02] <soulhacker> lightconelightcone:do u have a proxy in firefox??
[13:02] <lightcone> soulhacker: then?
[13:02] <dimas869> i am having an error updating my system i am getting this...W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ve.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[13:02] <dimas869> W: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas
[13:02] <dimas869> .....could some one help me to correct this please?
[13:02] <lightcone> soulhacker: yes... I a
[13:02] <lightcone> soulhacker: yes
[13:03] <AcornAcorn> I used the disk usage analyser and right clicked on a file and moved it to deleted items folder, but nothing appeared in the deleted items folder and the disk space isn't freed up and the folder is gone, what did it do?
[13:03] <soulhacker> lightcone:dats da problem
[13:03] <prince_jammys> dimas869: seems like just a warning. you can edit the file to remove the duplicate line
[13:03] <vorpal> i've installed virtualbox-ose, which depends on linux-image-2.6.24-16-386, however there are no sound modules for that kernel.  why is that?
[13:03] <soulhacker> lightcone:put ur ip in forefox options no proxy for
[13:03] <lightcone> soulhacker: ok.. I will disable proxy and try
[13:03] <prince_jammys> dimas869: there are probably two of the same line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:03] <yusuo> hi, does anyone know how i would go about intergrating the terminal into my desktop
[13:03] <lightcone> soulhacker: got it
[13:03] <dimas869> prince_jammys how i do that?
[13:04] <skillet> yusuo, ?
[13:04] <skillet> huh
[13:04] <dimas869> prince_jammys gedit perhap?
[13:04] <yusuo> skillet i want the terminal as a permenant feature on my desktop wallpaper, intergrated in
[13:04] <prince_jammys> dimas869: it's a text file. open it with an editor. for example, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:04] <AcornAcorn> I used the disk usage analyser and right clicked on a file and moved it to deleted items folder, but nothing appeared in the deleted items folder and the disk space isn't freed up and the folder is gone, what did it do?
[13:05] <dimas869> prince_jammys ok let me see
[13:05] <prince_jammys> dimas869: take a look at it and look for the line mentioned in the error message
[13:05] <niner64> yuso: i just right click on terminal and add to panel so it's always there to click is that what you want?
[13:05] <yusuo> skillet : http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/nilarimogard/33cd3191.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nl.wordpress.com/tag/embed/feed/&h=768&w=1024&sz=478&hl=en&start=17&um=1&tbnid=-N6nJUj1WbtPtM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dintegrate%2Bterminal%2Bubuntu%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-GB:unofficial%26hs%3DQOm%26sa%3DN
[13:06] <neil> hi
[13:06] <dimas869> prince_jammys ok but i am getting a error message on updating from the platform too
[13:06] <prince_jammys> dimas869: how do you mean?
[13:06] <yusuo> i got one in the bar at the top
[13:06] <dimas869> prince_jammys let me delete the duplicate line and i will tell you if still the problem
[13:07] <niner64> you mean a picture of a terminal to add to the background? like in themes?
[13:07] <sll> hi! I want to install 4 SO: ubuntu (32 & 64 bits) + debian (32 & 64 bits). By now I've ubuntu64 instaled over root /partition + a /home partition + 4 empty partitions. The idea is all OS have the same /home. I would know about users and grub management. If is better have differents users. And how to manage grub for easy updates. Anybody know abou it o where to find som information? Thanks
[13:07] <yusuo> no no niner like an actual terminal embedded into my background
[13:08] <niner64> there is a command that can do that.. it's more like a widow tho and ive only played with it in non gui mode kinda the same way a clock would update
[13:09] <niner64> thats a good question though
[13:10] <vorpal> OK, i just needed to install the appropriate linux-ubuntu-modules package thingy
[13:11] <xxthommiexx> here girls for webcamsex?
[13:11] <ottoshmidt> hi all, how do I see my hardware devices on ubuntu 8.04?
[13:11] <soulhacker> yusuo:how do u do it??
[13:11] <Starnestommy> !ot
[13:11] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:12] <dimas869> prince_jammys i dont see nothing on the file
[13:12] <prince_jammys> xxthommiexx: nope. wrong channel
[13:12] <xxthommiexx> PriceChild
[13:12] <xxthommiexx> was the channel
[13:12] <xxthommiexx> for that?
[13:12] <prince_jammys> dimas869: you don't see the mentioned lines?
[13:12] <dimas869> prince_jammys the file is empty
[13:12] <DaDrummer> does smb successfully synchronized a smartphone / GoogleCalender / local app?
[13:12] <prince_jammys> dimas869: what file did you open?
[13:12] <dimas869> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ve.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[13:12] <dimas869> W: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas
[13:13] <dimas869> prince_jammys would you walk me throw the process please?
[13:14] <prince_jammys> dimas869: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:14] <prince_jammys> dimas869: is that what you already did?
[13:14] <fcn> when i first boot the hardy heron, it asked me to install nvidia drivers but i refused. now i want to install but i don't know how to.
[13:14] <dimas869> prince_jammys no ok let me see now
[13:14] <niner64> nite people nice visiting i shall come back again soon :9
[13:14] <prince_jammys> dimas869: actually, it looks like 'sudo apt-get update' might also fix it automatically
[13:15] <prince_jammys> dimas869: try their recommendation first. 'sudo apt-get update'
[13:15] <dimas869> prince_jammys it wont correct it
[13:15] <prince_jammys> dimas869: oh ok
[13:16] <shakir> hello i'm new in ubuntu..need some help setting up samba
[13:16] <shakir> :)
[13:16] <prince_jammys> !samba
[13:16] <ubot3> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[13:17] <shakir> prince_jammys: thanks
[13:17] <prince_jammys> shakir: i don't know about samba. see if those links help
[13:17] <fcn> !nvidia
[13:17] <ubot3> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:18] <Otacon22> anyone can help me with repository on my xubuntu 6.10?
[13:18] <Otacon22> i was tring to install a program, but i i recive some errors 404
[13:18] <Otacon22> i made apt-get update
[13:18] <Otacon22> nothing changed
[13:18] <Otacon22> i'm correctly connected to internet.
[13:19] <nutmeg> I'm looking to get a 3d graphics card for my computer.  I'm running Ubuntu Hardy Heron and my motherboard has a free AGP slot or PCI slots (i.e. no PCI-express slot).  I'm in the UK and looking to spend around £50.  Any advice welcome!
[13:20] <jr__> ill look it up for you
[13:20] <jr__> its obviously going to be nvidia
[13:20] <dimas869> prince_jammys are this two different?....deb http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[13:20] <dimas869> deb-src http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security main restricted universe multiverse...although i have this one too...deb http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security multiverse
[13:20] <sll> nutmeg: nvidia 8600 512mb
[13:21] <DaDrummer> !option
[13:21] <ubot3> Factoid option not found
[13:21] <nutmeg> sll: just googling that now ...
[13:21] <DaDrummer> !p990i
[13:21] <ubot3> Factoid p990i not found
[13:21] <sll> ;)
[13:21] <dimas869> prince_jammys the last one is from automatix
[13:21] <jr__> i agree
[13:21] <DaDrummer> !smartphone
[13:21] <ubot3> Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/
[13:21] <jr__> with sll
[13:21] <bazhang> DaDrummer, please /msg the bot for fun if you wish
[13:21] <prince_jammys> dimas869: the last one repeats the first (or some items from it)
[13:22] <jr__> I need help myself, I have an acer ferrari 1000 and my audio doesnt work and never has with ubuntu
[13:22] <generic> hi guys i have install ubuntu 8.0.4  i comple a  new kerenle linux-source-2.6.24 by mistake i run i have run this update-initramfs -u
[13:22] <cinex> huh
[13:22] <generic> now my initrms is modifieed
[13:22] <dimas869> prince_jammys ok i guess i should delete the one from automatix then
[13:22] <generic> any idea how i revert
[13:22] <cinex> you compiled a kernel by mistak e?
[13:22] <sll> but i don't know about € conversion with £
[13:22] <ottoshmidt> have u any idea how do I connect mobile phone (nokia)
[13:22] <generic> no update-initramfs -u
[13:22] <prince_jammys> dimas869: if you don't want to delete it, you can put a # at the beginning of the line
[13:22] <nutmeg> sll: that appears to be a PCI express card.  I don't have a PCI express slot.  :(
[13:22] <generic> ru this command
[13:22] <ottoshmidt> PC suit doesn't work, I can't install even through WIne
[13:22] <cinex> ottoshmidt: there kmobiletools - moto4lin
[13:22] <prince_jammys> dimas869: then if things work properly, delete it
[13:22] <cinex> one of them should set you in the right direction
[13:23] <generic> now my machine boots with old things thats why my drbd is not working
[13:23] <dimas869> prince_jammys lol....good thought but i did already
[13:23] <sll> nutmeg: apsss sorry
[13:23] <prince_jammys> dimas869: well, it's logged on irc :)
[13:23] <jr__> Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[13:23] <jr__> anyone had any problemd with this device?
[13:23] <dimas869> prince_jammys right
[13:23] <b33r> Myrtti:  I finally located the errors I'm getting these on startup, ATA3.00: Status: {DRDY ERR} and ATA3.00: Error: {UNC}
[13:23] <cinex> generic: did you uninstall your old kernel ?
[13:24] <cinex> generic: could u not use grub to switch back ?
[13:24] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, my sound on my laptop is really quiet even when its showing its on max - any ideas why this might be?
[13:25] <dimas869> prince_jammys doesnt show a duplicate file anymore but let me see if i can update the system now
[13:25] <generic> no i wont unintsll
[13:25] <generic> i see only one kernel on boot
[13:25] <prince_jammys> dimas869: the 'W' in your error message is a warning. the problem isn't serious
[13:25] <generic> i have identical machine i copy and paste another machine boot to my old one
[13:26] <jr__> i need some audio help with an ati chipset on an acer ferrari running ubuntu 8.04
[13:26] <dimas869> prince_jammys i cant copy i will have to take a picture of it
[13:26] <Trae> Hey, if anyone here runs World of Warcraft in Wine, I'd love some help with this Mouse problem I've been having since I installed Ubuntu 8.04.   It's been going on since release.   The problem is this: When I press both buttons I get a "null" dragging motion.  On windows (and the way it used to be on Ubuntu 7.04) when I press both buttons, they engage at the same time.
[13:26]  * N3bunel saluta
[13:27] <b33r> can anyone help me with these error I'm getting them on startup after improper shutdown, ﻿ATA3.00: Status: {DRDY ERR} and ATA3.00: Error: {UNC}
[13:27] <prince_jammys> !paste | dimas869
[13:27] <ubot3> dimas869: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:27] <prince_jammys> dimas869: paste the text in that site, and post the link it gives you here
[13:27] <dimas869> prince_jammys i cant get it to copy...i will try control c
[13:28] <raghav> hey i insta;;ed fifa 07 with wine
[13:28] <jr__> anyone willing to help me with the audio issue?
[13:28] <raghav> but its not working i copied the crack too
[13:29] <raghav> pls??
[13:29] <raghav> help me to solve the prob
[13:29] <prince_jammys> hehe
[13:29] <raghav> ??
[13:29] <raghav> pls??
[13:29] <dimas869> prince_jammys there is some problem in line 26987 package "glchess"
[13:29] <bazhang> !appdb | raghav
[13:29] <ubot3> raghav: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[13:30] <raghav> it will not work huh??
[13:30] <stemount^> raghav: you don't get support for installed cracked apps
[13:30] <stemount^> :/
[13:30] <raghav> i read in forums that fifa 07 works in ubuntu
[13:30] <bazhang> #winehq raghav
[13:31] <dimas869> prince_jammys on /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:31] <raghav> i dont understand could u please specify
[13:31] <raghav> ??
[13:31] <bazhang> !wine | raghav
[13:31] <ubot3> raghav: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[13:32] <prince_jammys> dimas869: hm. so that's a different error, now, huh?
[13:32] <dimas869> prince_jammys are you with me?
[13:32] <dimas869> the duplicate file is gone yes
[13:33] <prince_jammys> dimas869: i wonder if this is related to automatix. it has been known to cause problems
[13:33] <dimas869> prince_jammys thats what i was saying about having problems updating the system
[13:34] <ricanelite> can anyone direct me on how I could get my Sony DCR-HC52 working in Hardy?
[13:34] <Caf-Fiend> hi all
[13:34] <dimas869> prince_jammys i think has to be with maybe chess game?  package glchess
[13:34] <prince_jammys> dimas869: that package has also caused me problems :)
[13:34] <ricanelite> I install Kino and it is not detecting the camcorder and I have it connected to firewire
[13:34] <prince_jammys> dimas869: i think i ended up just removing it
[13:34] <Caf-Fiend> how do i change the way time is displayed on ubuntu hardy?
[13:34] <new2linux> are there anyway to store the updates of hardy ubuntu locally? so, i don't have to download the updates if i reinstall the os
[13:34] <dimas869> the chess game?
[13:34] <new2linux> like microsoft wus server
[13:35] <nantax> how do i disable the visualization on totem? im playing an mp3 file and its annoying
[13:35] <prince_jammys> dimas869: yes. i don't remember what the problem was, but i ended up removing it
[13:35] <new2linux> that able us to download and keep them locally
[13:35] <dimas869> prince_jammys so should i just delete it from add remove programs?
[13:35] <prince_jammys> dimas869: try
[13:35] <Caf-Fiend> or rather, how do i get my clock in the top right corner to display time in a different way
[13:36] <dimas869> prince_jammys let me try then
[13:36] <jrib> nantax: edit -> preferences ?
[13:36] <new2linux> hey jrib
[13:36] <jrib> new2linux: hi
[13:36] <new2linux> jrib: could we store ubuntu updates locally?
[13:36] <nantax> jrib:  i did that already. removed the check box but totem is still displaying the vis? needs restart maybe...
[13:36] <new2linux> jrib: like windows update server (wus) microsoft?
[13:37] <jrib> nantax: yes, restart totem
[13:37] <nantax> jrib:  okay solved.. tnx
[13:37] <Caf-Fiend> or is there a location settings type thing somewhere?
[13:38] <amikrop> I think it would be nice, if the developers could make (deb) packages that automate the installation and configuration of hardware drivers like dial-up modems (like Lucent WinModems), usb modems (like ueagle-atm), and more, and provide those packages with the install/live CD.
[13:38] <dimas869> prince_jammys i get the same error message whe i try to delete it
[13:39] <prince_jammys> to somebody knowledgable in the ways of APT: dimas869 is getting errors from apt-get (or any APT front-end. has automatix installed, ubuntu hardy)
[13:39] <stemount^> new2linux: apt-proxy - Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder
[13:39] <b33r> ﻿can anyone help me with these error I'm getting them on startup after improper shutdown, ﻿ATA3.00: Status: {DRDY ERR} and ATA3.00: Error: {UNC}
[13:39] <Lachlan> Hi guys. Using Wine to install a multi-disc game, and it won't let me eject the second disc because it says "An application is preventing the volume 'blahblah' from being unmounted." I tried doing umount -f, but that fails with "Device or resource is busy". Any ideas?
[13:39] <stemount^> new2linux: that sounds promising
[13:39] <bazhang> !aptfix | dimas869
[13:39] <ubot3> dimas869: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:39] <ricanelite> can someone help me I have a Sony Mini-DV Camcorder connected with firewire. How can I transfer the videos I recorded to the mini-dv and transfer it to Ubuntu Linux Hardy? I have installed Kino and my camcorder is connected and nothing showed up in Kino?
[13:39] <javagamer> What does it mean when memtest86 spontaneously shuts down?
[13:39] <ricanelite> Should I reboot?
[13:39] <jrib> new2linux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy for the guide.  You also have the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if you just want to make backups
[13:39] <new2linux> stemount^: thanks, i'll try that
[13:40] <prince_jammys> dimas869: bazhang: doesn't seem like it's that, but worth a shot
[13:40] <new2linux> stemount^: is that way, we able to burn the updates to cd/dvd?
[13:40] <bazhang> dimas869, automatix? that is very bad then
[13:40] <dimas869> prince_jammys yeah let me see that
[13:40] <stemount^> new2linux: I believe thats via network
[13:40] <Crys_> I would like to replicate an installation to a new box. How can I get a list of all installed packages *including* the auto flag? dpkg -l doesn't show the auto flag.
[13:41] <dimas869> prince_jammys same error...grrrrr
[13:41] <jrib> !cloning | Crys_
[13:41] <ubot3> Crys_: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:41] <jrib> Crys_: I don't know what the auto flag is
[13:41] <prince_jammys> dimas869: automatix can really mess up apt
[13:41] <new2linux> i'll try the info, thx guys
[13:41] <dimas869> prince_jammys i can paste it now
[13:41] <bazhang> dimas the use of automatix has severely compromised your system
[13:41] <dimas869> automatix is not running
[13:42] <dimas869> cause there is no version for hardy as yet
[13:42] <Crys_> jrib: some packages are marked as automatically installed. When no package referres to an automatically installed package it is removes as well.
[13:42] <jokoon> hello
[13:42] <Crys_> jrib: I already know the get selection trick ;)
[13:42] <dimas869> prince_jammys have a look...dpkg: error de tratamiento, en el fichero `/var/lib/dpkg/status' cerca de la línea 26987 paquete `glchess':
[13:42] <dimas869>  error en la cadena `Version' `4194304:': no hay nada tras los dos puntos en el número de versión
[13:42] <krim> I've deleted a bunch of old bookmarks but when I type something in the adress bar in Firefox 3 beta 5 they still appear there. How do I get rid of them? I tried clearing private data and pressing delete when they're selected in the list, didn't work.
[13:43] <jokoon> I have a lot of crashes with the last firefox update, I have a powerpc proc, whats wrong ? (crashes when I close a tab)
[13:43] <amikrop> So, are there any related plans?
[13:43] <dimas869> sorry guys is in spanish
[13:43] <jrib> Crys_: is this information aptitude-specific?
[13:44] <jokoon> krim remove something file called place .sql
[13:44] <Caf-Fiend> i tried googling the answer to my problem, by searching for the manual page for date.  search string was "man date", I regret feeling lucky.
[13:44] <Crys_> jrib: it's apt specific
[13:44] <prince_jammys> dimas869: i don't know. i understand spanish, so i get the error message.  i don't know what to recommend, though.
[13:45] <prince_jammys> dimas869: i'll see what google has to say
[13:45] <dimas869> prince_jammys hold on i will translate it
[13:45] <prince_jammys> dimas869: i am a native spanish speaker
[13:45] <Crys_> dimas869: start the program with "LC_ALL=C yourcommand"
[13:45] <prince_jammys> dimas869: but yeah, see if you can a translation for google
[13:45] <dimas869> crys what?
[13:46] <prince_jammys> and for others in the channel
[13:46] <Brando1> Hey everyone, I'm having problems dual booting ubuntu and vista, heres my problem...
[13:46] <jrib> Crys_: oh, I see, apt-get keeps the info in /var/lib/apt/extended_states it seems
[13:46] <McJester> my sources.list is still messed up, I can't install any software, I keep getting an error saying it can' be installed on my PowerPC
[13:46] <dimas869> prince_jammys here...Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version
[13:46] <Brando1> I installed ubuntu and everything worked fine, and then I went on to install vista.  Vista wouldnt install on the partition I had made for it, so I went and install xp on that partition, which inactivated my ubuntu partition, and then I installed vista
[13:47] <Brando1> annow I cant get ubuntu to work....
[13:47] <ichat> gday yall... \
[13:47] <bazhang> !grub | Brando1
[13:47] <ubot3> Brando1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:47] <Crys_> jrib: nice, I can probably create a small Python script to parse the information and pipe it through apt-mark
[13:48] <socr> I want an SD card to mount on /media/sdram.  I suspect I have to edit fstab for that. How ?
[13:48] <Brando1> cancan i install grub from the live cd, and do I have to change any flags in gparted also?
[13:48] <dimas869> crys did you see the error i am getting?....Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version
[13:48] <bazhang> Brando1, did you read the link?
[13:48] <McJester> is there any command that will pull the latest sources.list from the web?
[13:48] <krim> jokoon: Thank you! That solved it!
[13:48] <Brando1> thanks ubot im sure that will help
[13:48] <Brando1> ok ill go do that, bye thanks
[13:48] <jrib> McJester: that doesn't really make sense, what do you want to do?
[13:49] <Agion> Hi, is there any working ATI driver for ATI x1950?
[13:49] <welkin> can any one tell me how to work c-language in ubuntu???
[13:49] <McJester> I want to restore my sources.list file, I made a few changes and jacked it all up without creating a backup, now I can't download any software
[13:49] <jrib> welkin: do you have a simple helloworld.c written in your favorite text editor already?
[13:49] <Dasmoover> Hi, last night I came here and I was told to use the alternatice install cd for ubuntu
[13:49] <bazhang> McJester, pastebin it please
[13:49] <Starnestommy> welkin: you need build-essential, which provides the gcc C compiler
[13:49] <Dasmoover> my problem persists
[13:50] <Dasmoover> can anyone help me>?
[13:50] <Starnestommy> Dasmoover: what was the problem?
[13:50] <welkin>  welkin: do you have a simple helloworld.c written in your favorite text editor already?  >>>>>>>>> no sorry.....
[13:50] <McJester> bazhang, whats pastebin?
[13:50] <Dasmoover> after the kernal, it hangs on a black screen without a loading cursor.
[13:50] <Starnestommy> !pastebin | McJester
[13:50] <ubot3> McJester: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:50] <jrib> McJester: delete it and use System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[13:50] <flaccid> sorry i have a new kitten.
[13:50] <etalli> Is there a way to get ls to print out every file with its path recursively?
[13:50] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com McJester
[13:50] <dimas869> anyone know how to fix this problem?...Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version
[13:50] <flaccid> gnomefreak, i do know better thank you very much.
[13:50] <welkin> welkin: you need build-essential, which provides the gcc C compiler>>>>>>>>>>> can u tel me how to do it???
[13:50] <bazhang> dimas869, also inform folks you used automatix
[13:51] <Starnestommy> welkin: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:51] <dimas869> bazhang i have run automatix on hardy cause the version i have is for feisty
[13:51] <jrib> welkin: you need to put the person's name you are addressing in your message, not your own :)
[13:52] <Dasmoover> anyone have any ideas?
[13:52] <Agion> Does anyone know is there a working 3d driver for ATI x1950??
[13:53] <tj83> Adion... th fglrz driver seems to be best for most ATI
[13:53] <tj83> agion... fglrx*
[13:53] <Agion> tj83: does it run compiz? how to install it?
[13:53] <recon69> ﻿Dasmoover: can you boot you system from the live cd?
[13:53] <Dasmoover> yes i can
[13:53] <Dasmoover> but after the install, it just doesnt work..
[13:53] <new2linux> guys, how to do ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew in ubuntu?
[13:53] <SndbaD> hi all
[13:54] <tj83> Agion... its does run compiz.. i'm using it now... System-Adminisration-Hardware drivers.
[13:54] <Starnestommy> new2linux: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart?
[13:54] <Danker> Hi
[13:54] <Danker> Does debian or ubuntu offer more generic (supports more devices) kernel?
[13:54] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: you could try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:55] <ichat> [q] new to ubuntu ... and want / need  wine,  thus installed it with the package-system.  -    and testrun notepad worked fine,  jet expacted  an install software option or a  how-to  yet nothing there.   1 - >  where do i find it,   |  2 ->  for my own well being and preventing F*ups - is it wise to i  install ubunu  with an extra partition  /windows  where i could reside all win files...   -
[13:55] <Agion> tj83: and there ATI accelerated graphics driver? It lags very much with me.
[13:55] <new2linux> recon69: that's all, cool
[13:55] <prince_jammys> dimas869: if i were you, i would probably just reinstall and never install automatix again.  everything i've read about automatix says that it can cause serious damage to apt, and that it's not easy to undo.
[13:55] <recon69> ﻿Dasmoover: have you tried to boot to the cmd line?
[13:55] <Crys_> Danker: ifdown eht0; ifup eth0
[13:55] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> It is asking ubuntu cd but i dont have it now.... wat can i do....
[13:56] <Dasmoover> no, i have not
[13:56] <Danker> Crys_: and?
[13:56] <tj83> Agion... be specific... what doesnt the ATI fglrx driver do for you? and have you looked at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make sure everything is correct?
[13:56] <Dasmoover> im dont know what o do there
[13:56] <Starnestommy> welkin: check System > Administration > Software Sources and tell it to not use the CD
[13:56] <Dasmoover> ive heard something about noacpi
[13:56] <Crys_> oh, you are the wrong guy, sorry
[13:56] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> k....
[13:56] <tj83> Dasmoover... i use the noapic tag
[13:56] <Crys_> Danker: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 was for new2linux
[13:56] <Dasmoover> wheres that?
[13:57] <recon69> ﻿Dasmoover: well, when it starts booting hit "del" or "esc" you should get the boot menu, try boot to recovery mode
[13:57] <Dasmoover> then what?
[13:58] <tj83> Dasmoover... I had alot of issues with freeze ups, screen black outs, and all out power down crashes.... I used the noapic tag and appended it to menu.list file in the grub folder.
[13:58] <tj83> Dasmoover.. all problems now gone.
[13:58] <ricanelite> can someone help me get my mini-dv camcorder working with Kino
[13:58] <Dasmoover> hmm i see
[13:58] <root> hi every one!
[13:58] <Dasmoover> so hit esc or del then what?
[13:58] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> yup... its finished wat shall i do next?????
[13:58] <new2linux> no dhcpoffer receive... but, before this, the computer was able to connect to the internet
[13:59] <Starnestommy> welkin: close out of that, then run: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:59] <new2linux> why now, it can't be connected anymore??
[13:59] <tj83> Dasmoover.... what recon69 says will get you with the noapic one time.. but not every boot... you must do it as i say for automatic boot witht he noapic tag.
[13:59] <recon69> ﻿Dasmoover: you should see the boot menu, pick recovery mode and see if it boots.
[13:59] <ricanelite> when i open up Kino and go to Perferences and then click on IEEE 1394 it says IEEE 1394 Subsystem is not responding The raw1394 module must be loaded, and you must have read and write access to /dev/raw1394
[13:59] <Dasmoover> and i should get into ubuntu?
[13:59] <parunni> hello
[13:59] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> yup... i even finished tat......
[13:59] <Df_Yz> Hello all.
[13:59] <Dasmoover> ill try that, if it works i wont be back
[13:59] <Dasmoover> if it doesnt ill be back
[13:59] <Dasmoover> ;)
[13:59] <Dasmoover> ty all
[14:00] <parunni> can any one help me with my problem with alsamixer
[14:00] <Df_Yz> Tell me, please, how I can compile linux-ubuntu-modules for my new kernel (2.6.42.7-imq)?
[14:00] <Agion> tj83: do you see anything bad in my xorg.conf? http://pastebin.ca/1035850
[14:00] <STSX> new2linux: Did you by chance have your networking set up with a static IP?
[14:01] <tj83> agion... one moment while i look
[14:01] <Agion> k thx
[14:01] <newubuntuuser> hi
[14:01] <tj83> agion.... yes there are problems with your file :P
[14:02] <tj83> hang around in the room for a few... i really need a smoke.. i will fix it and re-paste it.
[14:02] <Agion> tj83: what kinda problems? how to solve them? :P
[14:02] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> yup... i even finished installing build-essential......
[14:02] <new2linux> STSX: nope, i just move the computer to different place and different cable, but both the previous cable and the new cable are connected to the same switch
[14:02] <simonvc> Hey, im trying to install ubuntu on a laptop that has a broken screen, and no keyboard. Is there a way to get ubuntu-livecd to output to both screens (i.e. the vga port on the back?)
[14:02] <Starnestommy> welkin: you should now be able to compile c and c++ programs
[14:03] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>from where i can compile a c file???
[14:03] <Starnestommy> welkin: the gcc command
[14:03] <dimas869> i am having problems updating the system
[14:03] <ichat> Simonvc -  thats up to your laptops bios afaik ...
[14:03] <szczur> hi, I've made a copy of my internal disk (/dev/hda) to external usb disk (/dev/sda) using dd `if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda bs=64k`, now, when I'm trying to boot from usb, I get "failed to load operating system". why?
[14:03] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>sorry i dont knw.........
[14:03] <SndbaD> what the flash player i need to play the movies in browser???
[14:03] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>wat is tat??
[14:04] <prince_jammys> dimas869: if i were you, i would probably just reinstall and never install automatix again.  everything i've read about automatix says that it can cause serious damage to apt, and that it's not easy to undo.
[14:04] <Starnestommy> welkin: gcc -o program program.c
[14:04] <simonvc> @ichat The bios boots on both screens, but ubuntu X swithces off the second display.
[14:04] <Andeh> I unsafely unplugged my usb stick when on windows and now ubuntu cant write to it. How do I repair it?
[14:04] <blackdream> can you send me the fr channel plz :)
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <simonvc> How do i get live CD to do a text based install?
[14:04] <prince_jammys> !fr | blackdream
[14:04] <ubot3> blackdream: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[14:04] <bazhang> SndbaD, the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <dimas869> prince_jammys if i remove automatix i will get ready of my codecs...lol
[14:04] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: well could be many reasons, need much more info, paste the output of "ifconfig" and /ect/net/interfaces , describe the network you trying to connect to.
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <bazhang> !repeat | parunni
[14:04] <prince_jammys> dimas869: you can get them without automatix
[14:05] <ubot3> parunni: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[14:05] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>how to open a new file??
[14:05] <STSX> new2linux: Try the following and see if your network comes back up: "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[14:05] <Starnestommy> welkin: use a text editor, like the one in Applications > Accessories
[14:05] <ichat> simonvc -  ubuntu-alternate install  can do so
[14:05] <dimas869> prince_jammys i forgot eaven how to remove it...sorry i am floud right now
[14:05] <STSX> new2linux: But use your interface...
[14:05] <prince_jammys> dimas869: that's the thing. i don't even know if it's removable
[14:05] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>oh...k........ THANKS.............................
[14:05] <prince_jammys> !automatix
[14:05] <ubot3> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[14:06] <dimas869> prince_jammys...lol
[14:06] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working in ubuntu
[14:06] <STSX> new2linux: I mean replace "wlan0" with whatever is your interface.
[14:06] <new2linux> STSX: i have 2 computers, 1 with windows xp with 2 lan cards (1 connected directly to internet, the other 1 to share it to the lan). now, i'm setting up the other one with ubuntu, with 2 lan cards as well (1 to face the thin client network, the other one for the internet)
[14:06] <Andeh> I cant write to usb stick. I checked it with GParted it says it's messed up. Probably cause I unsafely unplugged it on windows. How do I fix it?
[14:06] <dimas869> prince_jammys i will try synaptic
[14:06] <tj83> Agion.. i'm still here just working on it now
[14:07] <Agion> ok
[14:07] <new2linux> STSX: i have 2 computers, 1 with windows xp with 2 lan cards (1 connected directly to internet, the other 1 to share it to the lan). now, i'm setting up the other one with ubuntu, with 2 lan cards as well (1 to face the thin client network, the other one for the internet which i get it from windows xp shared connection)
[14:07] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working in ubuntu
[14:07] <eric> I am using 8.04. ntp refuses to update the time! there is no longer a "synchronize now" button! how can I tell ntpdate to update my time??
[14:07] <STSX> new2linux: Do you know which interface (wlan0, eth0, eth1, etc) is used for your internet connection?
[14:07] <BonezAU> Hi, I am visiting websites and they tell me that I need sun java 1.4 - i already have the sun java plug-in installed for firefox. Is there a package that i'm missing?
[14:07] <bazhang> parunni, if someone knows they will answer; do not repeat so often
[14:07] <eric> BonezAU, 8.04?
[14:07] <McJester> what is the terminal command for delete
[14:07] <BonezAU> eric, yes
[14:07] <STSX> parunni: You have to be more specific if you want help.
[14:07] <Starnestommy> McJester: rm
[14:07] <new2linux> STSX: on ubuntu, it's eth0 for the internet
[14:08] <erUSUL> BonezAU: 64 bits install ??
[14:08] <parunni> sorry about that i am using this also for the first time
[14:08] <eric> BonezAU, 64 bit?
[14:08] <BonezAU> erUSUL, no, x86
[14:08] <dimas869> prince_jammys this is a major problem the system is stock on it...nothing i try work but give me the same error message
[14:08] <BonezAU> eric, no, 32bit
[14:08] <STSX> new2linux: OK, try those commands I gave and replace the "wlan0" with eth0.
[14:08] <Df_Yz> Tell me, please, how I can compile linux-ubuntu-modules for my new kernel (2.6.42.7-imq)? Alsa doesn't works witout them >_<
[14:08] <erUSUL> BonezAU: then it should Just Work (tm)
[14:08] <dimas869> terminal synaptic add and remove
[14:08] <new2linux> STSX: ok
[14:08] <eric> BonezAU, personally I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras which did the trick, but I am using 64-bit
[14:08] <eric> BonezAU, I don't think you would need the icedtea stuff for 32-bit
[14:08] <prince_jammys> dimas869: this is a situation where i would reinstall. ask around if someone else knows how to deal with this
[14:09] <BonezAU> erUSUL, can you try www.testyourvoip.com and choose a destination on the right hand side and see what happens? I get an error page saying no java found
[14:09] <b33r> can anyone help I'm getting this error on startup after improper shutdown http://paste.ubuntu.com/16180/
[14:09] <dimas869> prince_jammys you crazy?...lol
[14:09] <bazhang> dimas869, automatix has compromised that system
[14:09] <prince_jammys> dimas869: automatix messes the whole package installation process
[14:09] <parunni> i am using ubuntu 8.04 alsamixer gives an error alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory
[14:10] <Xorothal> hey, I just installed the kubuntu-desktop packeage and now my sound has messed up: i'm getting a sort of 'clicking' noise from my speakers
[14:10] <eric> hey guys, how do I tell ntp to update my computer's time?
[14:10] <eric> it is not doing it by itself :(
[14:10] <Dasmoover> After i go to to recovery mode
[14:10] <erUSUL> BonezAU: well i have 64 bits and use icedtea not java sun but i can try ...
[14:10] <Dasmoover> i select resume normal boot
[14:10] <Dasmoover> and then it just does the same..
[14:10] <erUSUL> BonezAU: says Testing in progress... but seems stuck
[14:10] <BonezAU> erUSUL, I use amd64 on my desktop pc... let me test it on there
[14:11] <tj83> agion... while i re-paste you need to make a back up of your xorg.conf file... save it as xorg.conf.old
[14:11] <dimas869> prince_jammys did you read the error message i sent you in english before?
[14:11] <Xorothal> eric: right click the date/time in the top right and select adjust date/time
[14:11] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: do you know what paste bin is, use it to share the out put of ifconfig so we can talk specifics http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:11] <eric> Xorothal, I want it to be automatic with ntp
[14:11] <Xorothal> yeah
[14:11] <Agion> ok
[14:11] <Xorothal> wait for it
[14:11] <eric> Xorothal, well it doesn't update
[14:11] <dimas869> so pissed now
[14:11] <erUSUL> BonezAU: no joy seems like it is just fails
[14:11] <eric> Xorothal, I have been waiting for two days
[14:11] <Xorothal> eric, click unlock
[14:12] <BonezAU> erUSUL, i get the same message on my amd64 desktop pc... no java found :(
[14:12] <eric> Xorothal, I did. before there was a "synchronize now" button. its gone :(
[14:12] <parunni> i am using ubuntu 8.04 alsamixer gives an error alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory can anyone help me?
[14:12] <Xorothal> and then "Keep synchronized etc"
[14:12] <tj83> Agion... when you have that done... let me know...
[14:12] <recon69> ﻿Dasmoover: do you get any other options other that resume normal boot, like boot to command line
[14:12] <Xorothal> oh
[14:12] <eric> Xorothal, yup...
[14:12] <Andeh> I cant write to my usb stick cause its messed up, i unplugged without unmounting.
[14:12] <Andeh> I can still read tho, can i fix it?
[14:12] <eric> Xorothal, I try and run the update myself... sudo ntpdate ntp1.cmc.ec.gc.ca
[14:12] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>i created a file named u.c how to open it??? i tried like this gcc -o u.c but it showed gcc: no input files
[14:12] <erUSUL> BonezAU: do this on your 32 bit system "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and make sure the sun's jre is default
[14:12] <McJester> jrib, i deleted my sources.list, and then reloaded it, but its not connecting to several servers
[14:12] <eric> Xorothal, but I get  1 Jun 09:11:09 ntpdate[7000]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[14:12] <Agion> ok, but u ate repasteing now? :P
[14:13] <Dasmoover> Anyone know how i can do noacpi?
[14:13] <Xorothal> oh
[14:13] <Starnestommy> welkin: use gcc -o u u.c
[14:13] <eric> Xorothal, and clearly observe how off my time is -.-
[14:13] <Xorothal> eric, idk then
[14:13] <zonkamatic> Got a couple of minor problems with the new release, which I installed last night.  Anybody care to give this a try?
[14:13] <McJester> jrib, do you know if there is somthing special for PowerPC's?
[14:13] <BonezAU> erUSUL, blake@elmhurst:~/Desktop/jre1.6.0_06$ sudo update-alternatives --config java
[14:13] <BonezAU> There is only 1 program which provides java
[14:13] <BonezAU> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[14:13] <tj83> agion http://pastebin.ca/1035861
[14:13] <Andeh> What should I use for USB stick, FAT16, FAT32 or NTFS
[14:13] <eric> Xorothal, errrr wait a second, my time is right now :s
[14:13] <Xorothal> haha
[14:13] <eric> Xorothal, weird.
[14:13] <tj83> Agion.... do you know how to use nano terminal text editor?
[14:14] <eric> well, whatever, I'm good now
[14:14] <erUSUL> BonezAU: ok; then i dunno why it fails :|
[14:14] <Blizzara> Andeh, FAT32
[14:14] <new2linux> recon69: i can't use the paste bin, coz the ubuntu computer is not connected to the internet. i'm using the other computer with windows
[14:14] <zonkamatic> Andeh:  concur.
[14:14] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>gcc: u.c: No such file or directory
[14:14] <zonkamatic> EVERYTHING can read FAT32.
[14:14] <BonezAU> erUSUL, I just downloaded java from sun.com as a .bin file and I installed it.. lemme restart ff and see what happens now
[14:14] <Andeh> zonkamatic: Concur?
[14:14] <zonkamatic> FAT32.
[14:14] <parunni> i am using ubuntu 8.04 alsamixer gives an error alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory can anyone help me?
[14:14] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> is there pre-built imq kernel module for hardy?
[14:14] <erUSUL> BonezAU: both the one you install with apt and the one from sun are the same
[14:15] <Starnestommy> welkin: are you cd'd to the directory where u.c is?
[14:15] <Andeh> okay
[14:15] <zonkamatic> Now...anybody know why I get a blank white panel every time I try to start up gnome-terminal?
[14:15] <parunni> i am using ubuntu 8.04 alsamixer gives an error alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory can anyone help me?
[14:15] <BonezAU> erUSUL, hrrrmmm... what is the package called in the repos? restarting ff gives the same message about java 1.4 missing.
[14:15] <new2linux> STSX: not working still
[14:15] <MolePrince> Howdy.  I am looking for a way to share my network printer over the internet to an XP machine.  Only catch is I don't want to make the sharee have to isntall a bunch of OpenVPN softwares or such.  Any suggestions please?
[14:15] <SndbaD> if i wana to watch movies i just enable the mplayer plugin and i disable all the others?
[14:15] <Andeh> zonkamatic: This is only cause I backed it up and am formatting it since its ****ed up and I cant write to it. And since nobody here told me how to repair it.
[14:15] <erUSUL> BonezAU: sun-java6-jre ?
[14:15] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> ya i saved tat file in my home folder and i can see that file if i use dir command
[14:16] <BonezAU> erUSUL, sun-java6-jre is already the newest version. :'(
[14:16] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: ok, well we need info to help, what interface is connecting to the web, and what does it connect to ?
[14:16] <zonkamatic> Andeh:  same difference.
[14:16] <erUSUL> BonezAU: the applet claims to be compatible with java 1.4 or *higher*
[14:16] <tj83> agion... you still around?
[14:16] <STSX> new2linux: Well since you can't share your ifconfig output and such, it's hard to troubleshoot. If you had it working before, maybe just reboot and see if that works.
[14:17] <new2linux> eth0 is for the internet
[14:17] <Agion> tj83:yes
[14:17] <zonkamatic> Folks:  two prolly unrelated problems.
[14:17] <Dasmoover> recon69, chevk PM
[14:17] <erUSUL> BonezAU: but in fact it is not maybe it depends on some windowsisms ...
[14:17] <new2linux> ok
[14:17] <zonkamatic> First, can't resize windows.
[14:17] <tj83> did you edit your xorg.conf file already?
[14:17] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: is the internet connection encrypted , is it connected to a router ?
[14:17] <zonkamatic> Second, try to fire up a terminal and get a blank white window.
[14:17] <Agion> just removing the numbers from the file, the rownumbers i mean
[14:17] <tj83> Agion... you done editing xorg.conf?
[14:17] <zonkamatic> Any takers?
[14:17] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> oh sorry sorry i used small u instead of U so its coming now.............. but im getting many errors for a simple program
[14:17] <b33r> can anyone help I'm getting this error on startup after improper shutdown http://paste.ubuntu.com/16180/
[14:17] <BonezAU> erUSUL, that's what i'm thinking.. perhaps I will admit defeat with this web site and not bother with it!!
[14:17] <Starnestommy> welkin: pastebin the errors
[14:17] <new2linux> recon69: no router, it was sucessfully connected before
[14:17] <zonkamatic> Fresh install, fresh updated as of last night around midnight, EDT.
[14:17] <tj83> Agion.. just re-copy from the lower box.
[14:18] <Andeh> Uhm. i cant format my usb stick. "Libparted error; unable to open /dev/sdb - unrecognized disk label"
[14:18] <BonezAU> erUSUL, i'm scared to reboot my laptop back into Vista because it
[14:18] <Agion> tj83:  oh, yeah xD
[14:18] <BonezAU> erUSUL, i'm scared to reboot my laptop back into Vista because it's been such a long time and I will get hammered with scary windows updates :)
[14:18] <Dasmoover> recon69, check PM
[14:18] <tj83> Agion that way nothing gets moved around ... one letter of and it wont reboot.
[14:18] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> U.c:2:20: error: conio.h: No such file or directory
[14:18] <welkin> U.c: In function ‘main’:
[14:18] <welkin> U.c:5: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘clrscr’
[14:18] <welkin> U.c:6: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘printf’
[14:18] <welkin> U.c:7: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘scanf’
[14:18] <FloodBot3> welkin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <welkin> U.c:8: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘c’
[14:18] <BonezAU> welkin, pastebin, dude :)
[14:18] <erUSUL> BonezAU: that's the price to pay :)
[14:19] <new2linux> STSX: i have 2 computers, 1 with windows xp with 2 lan cards (1 connected directly to internet, the other 1 to share it to the lan). now, i'm setting up the other one with ubuntu, with 2 lan cards as well (1 to face the thin client network, the other one for the internet which i get it from windows xp shared connection). after the ubuntu connected for the 1st time, i shut it down and move it to else where with 2 different cables. but those 2 cables are stil
[14:19] <zonkamatic> welkin:  did you try <conio.h> instead of "conio.h?"
[14:19] <BonezAU> erUSUL, i've just installed java on my 64bit desktop so I will give it a run now and see if it works
[14:19] <Agion> so, i save the old one as Xorg.conf.old?
[14:19] <tj83> Agion... do you know how to use"nan" terminal tex editor?
[14:19] <Starnestommy> welkin: you might need to rewrite that file.  Linux and other Unix-like systems use different things than Windows does
[14:19] <Agion> nope
[14:19] <tj83> "nano" agion
[14:19] <BonezAU> erUSUL, negative.. bah - i'll leave it and move on. thanks for your help!
[14:19] <recon69> ﻿new2linux: so what does eth0 plug into? a server , a adsl modem?
[14:19] <erUSUL> BonezAU: on a 64 bit system you need icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[14:20] <tj83> agion yes xorg.conf.old
[14:20] <BonezAU> erUSUL, thanks for the info. I'll install that shortly as no doubt i'll need it later
[14:20] <tj83> or anything so you can use it as a back up file.
[14:20] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> wait ill send my codes
[14:20] <SndbaD> if i wana to watch movies i just enable the mplayer plugin and i disable all the others????
[14:20] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> is that possible to shape INCOMING traffic for the list of IP addresses? how? (tc?)
[14:21] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16181/
[14:21] <Lynet> Wilde_Sehnsucht: Sorta, but generally not advisable.
[14:21] <Agion> tj83: Could not save the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old.
[14:21] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Lynet, why?
[14:21] <coolasJon> anyone here to help?
[14:21] <Blizzara> Agion, try sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[14:22] <Infecto> welkin: ?
[14:22] <tj83> thanks blizzard
[14:22] <Lynet> Wilde_Sehnsucht: Because you have to deliberately drop successfully received packages to do that?
[14:22] <clarezoe> anyone can help? I can't send mail by claws mail, my email is gmail, there's no one answers me in the #claws channel
[14:22] <tj83> blizzara
[14:22] <Starnestommy> welkin: I'm not sure what needs to be changed in it.  Someone in ##c might know
[14:22] <erUSUL> clarezoe: i use it and works ...
[14:22] <jrib> welkin: conio.h is a windows thing
[14:22] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Lynet, O.K. I see.
[14:23] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> ooh..k.. thanks...........
[14:23] <Infecto> welkin: whats the error?
[14:23] <Starnestommy> welkin: it might be iostream.h instead of conio.h
[14:23] <Sp4rKy> hi there
[14:23] <clarezoe> erUSUL, could you tell me your settings? I got the error message "553-5.1.2 We weren't able to find the recipient domain. Please check"
[14:23] <Sp4rKy> anyone using usbuirt with lirc ?
[14:23] <jrib> welkin: it's non-standard at least
[14:23] <clarezoe> erUSUL, it worked fine before, just happens today
[14:23] <Infecto> welkin: there is a loot of errors
[14:23] <tj83> Agion... if it doesnt work on reboot "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" or if you used blizzera's line or .old if you used that.. and save it at xorg.conf to go back to the orginal file.
[14:24] <markqvist> Hi there. Is this the correct channel for asking technical questions on Ubuntu?
[14:24] <jrib> markqvist: this one
[14:24] <Lynet> Wilde_Sehnsucht: You might do some other stuff, like delaying ack packets or playing with window size; but it depends on what exactly your goal is.
[14:24] <welkin> Infecto>>>>>>>>>but it works on windows.... how to compile in linux???
[14:24] <tj83> Agion... do you understand what to do?
[14:25] <Agion> tj83: nope, not really, im on text editor and i cant understand how to mix some console things on saving file
[14:25] <tj83> ok lets PM real fast
[14:25] <erUSUL> clarezoe: and happens with avery mail you try ? it seems a problem with the mail address you are sending to
[14:25] <jrib> Infecto: did you see what I told you?
[14:25] <MolePrince> What is a command to ping my subnet please?  I want to discover the IP of my network printer.
[14:25] <markqvist> Okay. I have a question about my bootloader. I Installed Ubuntu on a portable USB disk, wanting to be able to take my installation with me on the go, but unfortunately the bootloader was installed on my computers main drive. Is there a way to install the bootloader directly to the USB disk, so i can boot it on other computers?
[14:26] <Infecto> jrib: no i did not.
[14:26] <Blizzara> ping -b 192.168.0.255 if 192.168.0.* is your subnet, MolePrince
[14:26] <markqvist> I'm using GRUB, and Ubuntu 8.04
[14:26] <jrib> welkin: did you see what I told you?
[14:26] <erUSUL> clarezoe: sttings are normal on receiving on sending smp i have SMP AUTH and i have ssl enabled on both
[14:26] <jrib> Infecto: yeah sorry, confused you with welkin
[14:26] <Lynet> welkin: Perhaps rewrite to not use dos-specific stuff? conio.h is neither aprt of the standard c runtime nor required by posix.
[14:26] <Infecto> welkin: it cant work on windows either.
[14:26] <clarezoe> erUSUL, I have only gmail, thanks maybe I should try other mail, will come back later
[14:26] <welkin> oh....... sorry guys........... just now i saw my errors...............
[14:26] <welkin> sorry sorrry
[14:27] <MolePrince> Blizzara: I tried that and it only returns the IP of my router.
[14:27] <welkin> i had many errors....
[14:27] <gamez_> slt
[14:27] <gamez_> il y a kelkun
[14:27] <bazhang> !fr
[14:27] <jrib> !fr | gamez_
[14:27] <ubot3> Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[14:27] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Lynet, It's limited "to-the-world" channel and not limited "local" channel. i don't want to occupy the whole "to-the-world" channel (only INCOMING: from world to the computer)... is that possible? :)
[14:27] <ubot3> gamez_: please see above
[14:27] <Blizzara> MolePrince, sorry, no idea then
[14:27] <welkin> oh....... sorry guys........... just now i saw my errors............... jrib lynet Infecto
[14:28] <clarezoe> erUSUL, it woks with other mail, so I think it's the problem with gmail,
[14:29] <STSX> MolePrince: Do you know how to use "fping"? I would have to check what syntax you need, but it will ping a whole subnet and find alive hosts.
[14:29] <Lynet> Wilde_Sehnsucht: So you want to rate-limit uplink but not rate-limit downlink? Sure, that's possible.
[14:29] <MolePrince> STSX: I can learn, thanks :)
[14:30] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Lynet, No. I want to rate-limit downlink (traffic that goes FROM the world TO computer).
[14:30] <_moro_bana_> !tv
[14:30] <ubot3> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[14:30] <STSX> MolePrince: This will help you get started: "fping -g 192.168.1.0/24" where you give your own subnet of course if it is different.
[14:31] <welkin> jrib lynet Infecto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can any one tel me how to c the output of the file????
[14:31] <jrib> welkin: did you compile it?
[14:31] <_moro_bana_> !mythtv
[14:31] <ubot3> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[14:33] <MolePrince> STSX: Perfect, thank you. :)  turns out arp -am | grep ether got it too.
[14:33] <MolePrince> err, -a that is
[14:34] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> i completed rectifying the errors
[14:34] <STSX> MolePrince: True, but if you use arp, I believe you are relying on the arp cache, which may or may not be up-to-date.
[14:34] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> how can i see the output??
[14:34] <jrib> welkin: did you run 'gcc -o file file.c' where file.c is your source code and not get errors?
[14:35] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> ya i finished
[14:35] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> no errors
[14:35] <Blizzara> welkin, then run './file'
[14:35] <jrib> welkin: then you give the path to the executable that was created.  In my example, you would run './file' if you are in the directory where you compiled it
[14:36] <ndee> hey there, does anyone have mt-daapd running?
[14:36] <The_ManU_212> is it bad when x chrashes while in konsole is something important running like an installation?
[14:37] <arthur> question? 1. file recovery 2. backup any good programs in the repository?
[14:37] <Dr_willis> !backup
[14:37] <ubot3> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[14:37] <hccmb> can the ubuntu livecd boot usb devices?
[14:37] <dimas869> anyone know how to get this fix?....Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[14:37] <recon69> bye, my compile is finished and going to play :)
[14:38] <arthur> what about file recovery programs?
[14:38] <dimas869> e
[14:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> hccmb, I've heard of people booting from USB using a variant of the Edgy livecd
[14:38] <jrib> !recover | arthur
[14:38] <ubot3> arthur: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although a method that might work in some cases is described at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[14:38] <tj83> Agion... is back yet from reboot... must have run into problems
[14:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> Although the installation gets quitbig
[14:38] <Dr_willis> arthur,  good luck with that. :) thats why one makes backups..
[14:38] <dimas869> does anyone know how to get this fix...Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[14:38] <arthur> ok that was simple
[14:38] <tj83> isnt*
[14:38] <hccmb> ok , i try to google to find it
[14:39] <arthur> i just want to see if it works... i got pleanty of hard drives with stuff on them...lol
[14:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> You'll have to excuse my mispellings, I had a wee bit much to drink last night
[14:40] <bazhang> !usb | Sir_Fawnpug
[14:40] <ubot3> Sir_Fawnpug: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:41] <arthur> oh Sir_Fawnpug was that like apt-get me -a beer?
[14:41] <david__> can anybody help with ati?
[14:41] <bazhang> !ot | arthur
[14:41] <ubot3> arthur: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:41] <bazhang> arthur, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[14:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> arthur, I'll meet you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <dimas869> does anyone know how to fix this?....Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[14:42] <bing_> i need to make a back up of grub bootloader but when the text file opens  using sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst. there is no text in
[14:42] <bazhang> dimas869, pastebin sources.list please
[14:43] <paulson> hi
[14:43] <dimas869> bazhang would you give me the link please
[14:43] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com dimas869
[14:43] <c_sokun> which IDE does Ubuntu developer used for coding python?
[14:44] <STSX> bing_: Maybe first do "ls -l /boot/grub" and confirm that file exists first.
[14:44] <jrib> c_sokun: why does it have to be an ide?  Just use a text editor
[14:44] <gnomefreak> c_sokun: there isnt a stadard
[14:44] <dubby> hey, did evolution get nixed?
[14:44] <tj83> good morning Jack_Sparrow
[14:44] <gnomefreak> s/stadard/standard
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !info evolution
[14:45] <c_sokun> cuz i follow with planet ubuntu feed, see alot of talent dev. using python.
[14:45] <ubot3> evolution: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.22.0-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2917 kB, installed size 9584 kB
[14:45] <c_sokun> they can't be code all of those in text editor aren't they?
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 Morning.. not really awake yet, but morning
[14:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> c_sokun, I'm not sure but eclipse might be a good IDE for python, if you're into that sort of thing
[14:45] <jrib> c_sokun: erm, why not...?  Use what works for you
[14:45] <dubby> what happened so it became optional ? because I had it installed and it got deleted by yesterdays updates
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> c_sokun For the most part.. yes
[14:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> c_sokun, text editors + makefiles are pretty versitle.
[14:46] <komp-23> gdfgfdg
[14:46] <bazhang> english please komp-23
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> morning bazhang
[14:46] <komp-23> hi how are you?
[14:46] <bing_> i need to make a back up of grub bootloader but when the text file opens  using sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst. there is no text in
[14:46] <bazhang> morning Jack_Sparrow :)
[14:46] <dubby> thats not any specific language thats just a jumble of letters
[14:46] <erisco> I have a bash/launcher question. A few launchers I want to make I am having trouble with, because the software needs the CWD to be where their installation is
[14:47] <erisco> but how can I have the launcher do a cd or emulate it?
[14:47] <erisco> or whatever
[14:47] <dubby> fstab
[14:47] <bing_> stsx: i think it exists it says total 196 then a lot root root
[14:47] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> thanks dude i got output but i hve some errors in output
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bing_ for starters. please use gksudo gedit  and make sure that is /boot/grub/menu.lst   L not 1st
[14:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> c_sokun, if you're looking for a good text editor (not necessarily an IDE, but it has syntax highlighting and the like) you might look at scite.
[14:48] <erisco> do I have to make my own script to point to?
[14:48] <erisco> that will do the cd?
[14:48] <Dasmoover> i have a problem booting into ubuntu, i get a blackscreen and a loading cursor, anyone help me?
[14:48] <tj83> dasmoover... did you get anywhere with noapic?
[14:48] <Dasmoover> i dont know how to enable it
[14:48] <tj83> :)
[14:48] <c_sokun> thanks all, what I need was a tool with intellisent which can save me from remember all the methods, properties name.
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Dasmoover from live cd or after the install or did this work at some point in time
[14:49] <tj83> dasmoover... thats why i was trying to get you to listen to what i was saying as i do use the noapic tag
[14:49] <jrib> c_sokun: a lot of people like vim and emacs, take a look at them
[14:49] <Dasmoover> after install
[14:49] <Dasmoover> right after it
[14:49] <c_sokun> I am familiar with eclipse i will take that route, i will explore more about the makefile
[14:49] <Dasmoover> i have the grub menu
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | Dasmoover
[14:49] <ubot3> Dasmoover: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:49] <tj83> Dasmoover.. when booting up fron HDD... press esc to enter the menu highlight the first option and press "e" to edit
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Dasmoover At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Wrong .. that was for live.. but same diff  see tj83
[14:50] <tj83> Dasmoover.... then add "noapic" to the end of the string and then "b" to boot for a one shot time to see if it works
[14:51] <Thor> do not remove quiet and splash!! I tried but i failed
[14:51] <tj83> dasmoover... if it does work... then you will need to edit grub file manually to make it stick for every boot.
[14:51] <Dasmoover> tj, i hit e, now i see root kernal initrd and quite
[14:52] <tj83> add noapic to the end of that line
[14:52] <Stev1> Hello.  recently I have being experiencing problems hibernating my computer.  when hibernating the final message shows a message:  670877 i8042 aux 00:0a: activation failed and 670902 i8042 kbd 00:0b activation failed.  When I try to reboot, the computer seems to reboot on the ubuntu logo.  Any experienced this or can help?
[14:52] <Dasmoover> which one
[14:52] <tj83> to the end of root kernel initrd quiet noapic
[14:52] <Caf-Fiend> fixed my problem :)
[14:52] <bing_> thanks jack sparrow, im new at this but picking it up slowlry
[14:52] <tj83> dasmoover then press b to boot using your new option
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> thor What are you talking about or to whom
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> to late.. darn
[14:53] <Dasmoover> noacpi, corret?
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[14:53] <asdfgh_> hello
[14:54] <tj83> dasmoover... noapic
[14:54] <spiderfire> can i make a .deb from python script?
[14:54] <rotyyu> hello
[14:54] <Dasmoover> k i am booting
[14:54] <tj83> k
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !packaging
[14:54] <ubot3> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[14:54] <Dasmoover> it restarted my computyer im at grub again
[14:54] <asdfgh_> can someone please help me? i can't change desktops in ubuntu
[14:54] <Caf-Fiend> all i needed to do was run gconf-editor, go to apps/panel/applets/clock_screen0/prefs/ and change format to "custom" nq, and custom format to " %d/%m/%y (%G-W%V-%u), %H:%M" nq
[14:54] <Taza> How would I make a partition image of a windows partition and restore it from Ubuntu?
[14:54] <Caf-Fiend> if anyone else ever had that problem
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza With the dd command
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[14:55] <Taza> I'm thinking either dd or rsync together with gzip, but I'm not sure if dd can do that to partitions
[14:55] <ubot3> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[14:55] <tj83> dasmoover... do the same thing but add nolapic this time
[14:55] <tj83> plus noapic
[14:55] <gaof> I'm having a bit of a wireless issue. There is a thread up on the forums for it, found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5084534 but we are having some trouble solving it. Basically, my driver and wireless card are detected and working just fine, apparently... but we can't use them or connect to any networks. The wireless light on the network port is blue which means the killswitch is off. I have looked at the other threads and the wiki and nothing
[14:55] <paulson> any good irc groups????????????????? plz herlp
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza yes dd works fine for that.. would you like a link
[14:55] <Taza> tj83: What are you helping on?
[14:55] <Dasmoover> it restarted my computer again...
[14:55] <bazhang> !irc | paulson
[14:55] <Taza> Jack_Sparrow: Preferably.
[14:55] <ubot3> paulson: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[14:55] <Taza> I opened all those links already though
[14:56] <Taza> I know how to use dd to backup a whole device but not a partition
[14:56] <prabakaran> hello
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[14:56] <prabakaran> how to make fire effect ?
[14:56] <tj83> Taza... he cant get ubuntu to come up after install.
[14:56] <lilei> HI
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> prabakaran do you have ccsm installed
[14:56] <Taza> tj83: Did he try removing quiet from grub?
[14:57] <bazhang> !compiz | prabakaran
[14:57] <gaof> lilei: hi
[14:57] <ubot3> prabakaran: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[14:57] <prabakaran> i dont know tat
[14:57] <Dasmoover> n o i have not i will now taza
[14:57] <tj83> no.... i am sure he didnt.... is a good suggestion to get some info
[14:57] <The_ManU_212> is it bad when x chrashes while in konsole is something important running like an installation?
[14:57] <rotyyu> prabakaran: System-preferences-advanced desktop effetcs
[14:57] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, could be
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> prabakaran Which distro/release are you running   lsb_release -a if you dont know
[14:57] <Taza> I personally had an apic problem that resulted me in getting so frustrated I got banned from one of the channels. Was fixed by removing quiet
[14:57] <Dasmoover> the splah screen is now loading
[14:58] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, still downloading or configuring after
[14:58] <prabakaran> i clicked tat fire effect but its not workin
[14:58] <lopin> Is there anyway I can customize the colors of the borders in the appearance menu?
[14:58] <Dasmoover> nope i have some problem
[14:58] <huraah`> hi , just need a little help.. im using ubuntu 8.04 . my problem is bout my soundcard.After i change the card into another pci slot and then i can't hear the sound anymore.any help. tq
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> prabakaran What keys are you using to enable it
[14:58] <tj83> dasmoover.. i am sure you did have the same issue... but did you see any errors?
[14:58] <bazhang> !themes | lopin
[14:58] <ubot3> lopin: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[14:58] <Dasmoover> no no errors
[14:58] <[Realin]> !path
[14:58] <ubot3> Factoid path not found
[14:58] <lopin> I don't want themes...
[14:59] <Dasmoover> tj, may i pm?
[14:59] <lopin> I want to customize the color!
[14:59] <socr> on login I gett this password screen 'unlock keyreing' . it has to do with wireless. and it is annoying. Can't I get rid of it by making something automatic ?
[14:59] <[Realin]> !setpath
[14:59] <ubot3> Factoid setpath not found
[14:59] <Taza> Dasmoover: PM them to me too
[14:59] <Dasmoover> there are no errors
[14:59] <lopin> !colors
[14:59] <ubot3> Factoid colors not found
[14:59] <prabakaran> i dont know d key for fire effect jack . can u tell me ?
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lopin the colors of what
[14:59] <b33r> I'm getting this error on startup after an improper shutdown http://paste.ubuntu.com/16180/ can anyone help? :/
[14:59] <Terabyte> Hey does anybody know how to stop openssh from starting up with ubuntu, I only want to start it when I need it, when I issue ssh start command, rather than autostarting and running in the background all the time
[14:59] <tj83> can someone tell how to get to terminal and abort starting x?
[14:59] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: installing, configuring...
[14:59] <aic> Hallo, gibt es bitte einen Ubuntu-Chat auf deutsch ?
[14:59] <bazhang> prabakaran, join #compiz
[14:59] <Assid> err how do i know which init level i am in
[14:59] <socr> aic: no
[14:59] <[Realin]> how do i set path or environment variables in UBUNTU.. do i have to add stuff to bashrc forever or waht ?
[14:59] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, still downloading or after
[15:00] <bijur> hey all :) Good Morning
[15:00] <Taza> tj83: CTRL+ALT+F2
[15:00] <aic> thanks
[15:00] <lopin> Jack_Sparrow: The window borders!
[15:00] <jrib> The_ManU_212: System -> Administration -> Software Services
[15:00] <huraah`> hi , just need a little help.. im using ubuntu 8.04 . my problem is bout my soundcard.After i change the card into another pci slot and then i can't hear the sound anymore.any help. tq
[15:00] <jrib> Terabyte: System -> Administration -> Software Services
[15:00]  * jrib gives up
[15:00] <tj83> Taza and when is it appropriate to use that keycombination?
[15:00] <Terabyte> thanks jrib
[15:00] <bazhang> lopin, that is part of themes
[15:00] <Taza> tj83: Anytime
[15:00] <tj83> ok
[15:00] <tj83> thanx
[15:00] <margarita> alguien habla español?
[15:00] <bijur> jrib: it should detect on its own, just make sure ur hal is running
[15:00] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: installing, configuring...
[15:00] <Taza> tj83: Drops you into a vt, then ps aux to get processes, then kill the x process using kill [pid]
[15:00] <bijur> jrib: /etc/init.d/hal restart
[15:00] <sofiankrt> hi
[15:01] <Taza> tj83: kill -9 [pid] if required
[15:01] <jrib> bijur: wrong person too?
[15:01] <lopin> I don't want a new theme.  I want to use one of the themes I have, but not in orange...
[15:01] <sofiankrt> I tried accessing my local ftp server
[15:01] <sofiankrt> from firefox
[15:01] <bijur> jrib: yeah ! lol
[15:01] <sofiankrt> ip-address:21
[15:01] <bijur> huraah`: that was for u
[15:01] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, try update and upgrade and see what the results are
[15:01] <bijur> jrib: sorry mate
[15:01] <sofiankrt> it said that the port was closed for my protection
[15:01] <tj83> thank you taza
[15:01] <margarita> hi everybody
[15:01] <sofiankrt> how do I disable this?
[15:01] <jrib> [Realin]: ~/.profile
[15:01] <Taza> sofiankrt: Firestarter or iptables.
[15:01] <bazhang> lopin, then alter the one you have
[15:01] <huraah`> bijur : what?
[15:02] <sofiankrt> Taza: from the command line?
[15:02] <lopin> bazhang that's the problem.  I can't...  They're all orange...
[15:02] <[Realin]> jrib, how do i set it ?? using path="mypaht";
[15:02] <margarita> how configuring to run php 5?? i have installed but im not runinig
[15:02] <maghettino> ciao a tutti..
[15:02] <Taza> sofiankrt: Google them both, actually. It's a bit more involved.
[15:02] <jrib> [Realin]: why do you want to do this?
[15:02] <bazhang> !it | maghettino
[15:02] <ubot3> maghettino: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:02] <jrib> !lamp > margarita (read the private message from ubottu)
[15:02] <sofiankrt> Taza: isn't it something to do with firefox?
[15:02] <johant> co sa stalo?
[15:02] <Taza> sofiankrt: If Ubuntu is protecting you from something there's usually a good reason and therefore reversing the block is quite difficult
[15:02] <sofiankrt> Taza: can't I just disable something from settings?
[15:02] <Taza> sofiankrt: Nothing of the kind.
[15:03] <Taza> sofiankrt: Again, nothing of the kind.
[15:03] <[Realin]> i want to start tomcat and set some CLASSPATH as well as JAVA_HOME variabl, i could have made a batch file but i dont know how do i write .sh files in UBUNTU
[15:03] <Taza> sofiankrt: Abort what you're doing, you're about to break your system.
[15:03] <bazhang> !en | johant
[15:03] <ubot3> johant: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:03] <sofiankrt> Taza: I set up the server!
[15:03] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: nothing to upgrade
[15:03] <sofiankrt> Taza: There's nothing dangerous with it!
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> [Realin] /join #bash
[15:03] <Taza> sofiankrt: You're about to break your system.
[15:03] <hccmb> how could i boot an usb pendrive with ubuntu , if the bios will not boot from usb?
[15:03] <jrib> [Realin]: those are different than PATH.  To set an environment variable, you do: export VARIABLE=FOO
[15:03] <bazhang> hccmb, you cannot
[15:03] <Dr_willis_> [Realin],  just a file with  a command on each line, with #!/bin/bash at the first line...
[15:04] <sofiankrt> Taza: what do you mean?
[15:04] <Taza> sofiankrt: Drop what you're doing, read more about the basics of what you're doing. You're on REALLY THIN ICE right there.
[15:04] <sofiankrt> Taza: it's my server!
[15:04] <[Realin]> sure jack
[15:04] <gaof> I'm having a bit of a wireless issue. There is a thread up on the forums for it, found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5084534 but we are having some trouble solving it. Basically, my driver and wireless card are detected and working just fine, apparently... but we can't use them or connect to any networks. The wireless light on the network port is blue which means the killswitch is off. I have looked at the other threads and the wiki and nothing
[15:04] <hccmb> hmm, then i better look into bios first...:)
[15:04] <Taza> sofiankrt: Yeah, but if you're going "firefox issue" with port 21, really. Read more.
[15:04] <[Realin]> thaks Dr_willis_
[15:04] <sofiankrt> Taza: what's wrong with accessing my server?
[15:04] <Taza> sofiankrt: It's not about you accessing your server. It's what port 21 is for.
[15:05] <prabakaran> can any1 tell how to make fire effect wen close d window ?
[15:05] <Taza> sofiankrt: For a http server you're looking at port 80. Port 21 is something completely else.
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> [Realin] If you just need to know the basics look at any bash script
[15:05] <Sir_Fawnpug> hccmb, you'd have to do it by proxy
[15:05] <albech> is it possible to get 1 year free ssl certificates somewhere?
[15:05] <sofiankrt> Taza: it's not an http server!
[15:05] <sofiankrt> Taza: it's an ftp server
[15:05] <bazhang> prabakaran, you asked in #compiz ?
[15:05] <Taza> sofiankrt: Still 80.
[15:05] <remu> Hey guys, I need help installing the Aurora Engine, I'm on Ubuntu 8.04 x86_64.
[15:05] <[Realin]> sure jack
[15:05] <Taza> sofiankrt: 21 is SSH and it's blocked for a good reason.
[15:05] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: in general, can a x-crash destroy a system, when important things are running in konsole
[15:05] <Dr_willis_> prabakaran,  install the ccsm tool, and  mess with the settings. :)   I set mine to random when it closes.. so i get to see all the effects
[15:05] <Taza> remu: You're **** out of luck
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> albech Wrong room to ask that..
[15:05] <prabakaran> compiz ? baz
[15:05] <Starnestommy> Taza: isn't 22 ssh?
[15:05] <Terabyte> 22 is ssh
[15:06] <Terabyte> 21 is ftp
[15:06] <Dr_willis_> prabakaran,  at least i set it to random for a few min to show off to the windows users.
[15:06] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, hard to say; depends what was running
[15:06] <Terabyte> client*
[15:06] <albech> Jack_Sparrow: any better suggestions? ;)
[15:06] <sofiankrt> Taza: yeah, 21 is ftp!
[15:06] <dotech> TCP port 21 is FTP (RFC959)
[15:06] <Terabyte> client*
[15:06] <[Realin]> when dr_willis said, i have to write command, my question is setting path="mypath" is a valid command or no ?
[15:06] <jdroid-> Can django and php live happily together in one apache instance?
[15:06] <Taza> dotech: Gah.
[15:06] <STSX> Taza: That's not truepp port 21 is ftp
[15:06] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: hm but if an crash could be so dangerous it is a risk for linux, isnt it?
[15:06] <dotech> www.iana.org has the full list of port assignments.
[15:06] <Taza> sofiankrt: Okay, but still. Google firestarter and iptables.
[15:06] <Taza> remu: Are you registered?
[15:07] <The_ManU_212> thought that maybe such processes are working in another layer as x and you only control them in x
[15:07] <darrend> sofiankrt: what is your problem - running the ftp service or accessing it with firefox?
[15:07] <sofiankrt> Taza: just make sure. there's nothing dangerous about accessing my ftp server through port 21 in firefox, is there?
[15:07] <prabakaran> how to set d ccsm tool ?
[15:07] <sofiankrt> darrend: accessing it
[15:07] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, this is support not conjecture; no idea there sorry
[15:07] <Taza> sofiankrt: Well, opening it is kinda dangerous if it's improperly configured.
[15:07] <darrend> is firefox on the same machine or different machine?
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> [Realin] Here is a simple one   http://paste.ubuntu.com/16187/
[15:07] <bazhang> !ccsm | prabakaran
[15:07] <ubot3> prabakaran: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy), install 'simple-ccsm'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[15:07] <Taza> sofiankrt: So read up on firestarter, iptables and the ftp server, as I said.
[15:07] <[Realin]> thanks jacky
[15:08] <darrend> sofiankrt: ^^^
[15:08] <ZNup> sdf
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> albech #Ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <bazhang> !cn | ZNup
[15:08] <ubot3> ZNup: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[15:08] <sofiankrt> Taza: sure will. but I've already accessed it from Places > Connect to Server...
[15:08] <prabakaran> thanks . will try tat
[15:08] <sofiankrt> Taza: is firefox any more dangerous?
[15:08] <Taza> sofiankrt: Nope.
[15:09] <Taza> sofiankrt: Firefox in itself isn't any more dangerous as any other ftp client.
[15:09] <sofiankrt> Taza: it's more convenient for me to use firefox, so I need to disable the block
[15:09] <Taza> !restricteddrivers | Dasmoover
[15:09] <ubot3> Taza: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:09] <nonw46> hi, i'm looking for information on how to add support for a PCI FM-radio card. can anyone possibly point me somewhere?
[15:09] <Taza> !restricted | Dasmoover
[15:09] <ubot3> Dasmoover: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:09] <Taza> Gah.
[15:09] <tjurskallen> hi all. what's the reason a desktop ubuntu kernel does not support over 4 gigs of ram?
[15:09] <Taza> Anyone remember the restricted drivers factoid?
[15:09] <Terabyte> tjurskallen 32bit system
[15:10] <Starnestommy> tjurskallen: it should if it's the 64-bit version
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[15:10] <darrend> tjurskallen: need 64-bit
[15:10] <ubot3> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:10] <bazhang> taza binarydrivers
[15:10] <nonw46> !fm
[15:10] <ubot3> Factoid fm not found
[15:10] <prabakaran> wats d keybindin for fire effect ?
[15:10] <Terabyte> tjruskallen maximmum addressable space with a 32 bit system is 2^32 = 4gb
[15:10] <sofiankrt> Taza: I think firefox itself is blocking ftp, not ubuntu or my router
[15:10] <nonw46> !radio
[15:10] <ubot3> radio: ncurses-based radio application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-8ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB
[15:10] <DjViper> where are the right-click menu actions for nautilus stored?
[15:10] <DjViper> ie. extract here
[15:10] <DjViper> etc
[15:10] <Taza> sofiankrt: Firefox blocking ftp? Never had that.
[15:10] <tjurskallen> 32-bit kernels with PAE enabled should support up to 64 gigs of ram no?
[15:10] <TuxPWNZ> Guys, My Dvd-Rom does not detect DVD movies, can anybody help?
[15:10] <amikrop> A package depends on kernel 2.6.16 or better. What dependencies do I need to declare (e.g. in the control file)?
[15:10] <bazhang> prabakaran,
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd | TuxPWNZ
[15:10] <ubot3> TuxPWNZ: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:11] <nonw46> TuxPWNZ, did you mess with firmware previously udner windows?
[15:11] <sofiankrt> Taza: if I can access it from connect to server, and ubuntu is allowing me to do that, it means something is wrong with firefox
[15:11] <amoy> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[15:11] <prabakaran> bazhang , wats d key for fire effect ?
 Excuse me?
[15:11] <Taza> sofiankrt: Are you specifying the right port? :P
[15:11] <bazhang> prabakaran, /join #compiz
[15:11] <jbroome> prabakaran: ask in #compiz
[15:11] <amoy> haaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[15:12] <jrib> amoy: stop
[15:12] <Dr_willis_> prabakaran,  run that compi config tool and look at the keybings for that fire plugin
[15:12] <sofiankrt> Taza: yeah, 21. the exact words are "Port Restricted for Security Reasons"
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> amoy Please dont do that.. Hello and welcome
[15:12] <b33r> ﻿﻿ I'm getting this error on startup after an improper shutdown http://paste.ubuntu.com/16180/ can anyone help? :/
[15:12] <nonw46> TuxPWNZ, as in did you flash the drive with any firmware whily running windows
[15:12] <tjurskallen> just wondering why pae is not enabled by default...
[15:12] <nonw46> sofiankrt, my first guess would be a router
[15:12] <prabakaran> thanks
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tjurskallen Perhaps most people on 32 bit boxes have less than 4 gigs
[15:13] <jbroome> tjurskallen: because the majority of people don't need it
[15:13] <jbroome> if you want to see all 4gb ram, run 64bit or deal with the 3.5 gb that is addressable
 No, I don't remember doing that.
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt Do you have one of the site links you are trying to reach available
[15:13] <sofiankrt> nonw46: my router is ok, I've accessed my server using the router. the problem arises when I use firefox for "purposes other than web browsing" according to them
[15:14] <selocol> can someone tell me why when i type free -m, in the "free" column, the value in the "Mem:" row is different from the "-/+ buffers/cache" row? how much memory is really free? in the mem row, it says i have 993 used and 16 free?? how is that possible. im hardly running anything. thanks
[15:14] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: it's a local server
[15:14] <tjurskallen> there is no official 32-bit kernel with pae enabled to install huh?
[15:14] <nonw46> sofiankrt, this happens with any ftp ip?
[15:14] <Bizzeh> hey, you know how kubuntu has the app in admin to set what drives to auto-mount on startup, and what permitions to give the drive for user access?
[15:14] <sofiankrt> nonw46: I've only tried the local one
[15:14] <Bizzeh> is there an app like that for ubuntu
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt What about outside servers.. can you reach any of those.. if it is only one of your servers it could be in how you have it setup
[15:14] <bazhang> system prefs sessions Bizzeh
[15:15] <bazhang> Bizzeh, oops misread
[15:15] <nonw46> sofiankrt, have you tried disabling the ubuntu add-in in firefox?
[15:15] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: I have only one server
[15:15] <sofiankrt> nonw46: I'll try
[15:15] <nonw46> ....that's still bizarre tho
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh not really an app.. fstab can be edited with any text editor
[15:15] <STSX> selocol: Look under the buffer/cache category for free--that's the most relevant since cached memory is still usable.
[15:16] <DjViper> where are the right-click menu actions for nautilus stored? ie. extract here
[15:16] <selocol> STSX: thanks
[15:16] <etronik> Hi all
[15:16] <Bizzeh> Jack_Sparrow: i know it can, but last time i asked this question,  i was told to edit fstab, i did it, and it hosed my install
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt that still did not answer my question
[15:16] <amenado> Bizzeh-> in addition, there are udev rules to add detected usb drives upon plugin
[15:16] <bazhang> !bum
[15:16] <ubot3> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[15:16] <selocol> hello, i don't understand why "ps" only lists bash as the running process. are firefox, pidgin, etc. not running processes? thanks.
[15:16] <remu> Taza: What do you mean am I registered?
[15:16] <Taza> remu: Check your query
[15:16] <mDemocritus> selocol: try ps -A
[15:16] <etronik> How do I create an initrd image while booted from a rescue disk ? still trying to recover from failed upgrade - TIA
[15:16] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: do you know any external servers I could try?
[15:16] <Taza> I can help you a lot if it's the Bioware Aurora ENgine
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh Restoriung your old fstab from a terminal session only takes a minute if you happen to do it wrong
[15:17] <Starnestommy> Taza: unregistered users can now send PMs to registered users because of the recent services change, unless the target user has user mode +E set
[15:17] <amenado> selocol-> there is a man page for ps,  man ps
[15:17] <selocol> mDemocritus: so ps only lists public processes?
[15:17] <selocol> amenado: i looked at it and it says that ps lists the current processes, so my question is, isn't firefox a running process?
[15:17] <Bizzeh> why cant the FOSS world just say "i dont know"
[15:17] <mDemocritus> selocol: ps with no options just gives you the processes running under that session
[15:17] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: I probably have accessed ftp servers, but not with :21
[15:18] <jbroome> selocol: ps -A, as he said
[15:18] <Bizzeh> rather than hiding it behind "do it another way, go find out how to do it"
[15:18] <Starnestommy> Bizzeh: I don't know
[15:18] <Varanger> hi!
[15:18] <Slart> selocol: uhh.. yes they are.. and they show up for me
[15:18] <selocol> mDemocritus: what do you mean by session?
[15:18] <nonw46> Bizzeh, what does FOSS stand for?
[15:18] <amenado> selocol-> yes firefox is a process entry
[15:18] <Varanger> I need a MP3 splitter? Do you know?
[15:18] <Slart> selocol: or.. rather.. they show up if I use ps -A
[15:18] <selocol> amenado: why does it not appear in "ps" but only in "ps -A"?
[15:18] <mDemocritus> selocol: terminal session
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt ftp://ftp.kickchat.com/
[15:18] <mDemocritus> selocol: try ps --help
[15:18] <bay199> what the this is ? sources.list
[15:19] <gaof> I'm having a bit of a wireless issue. There is a thread up on the forums for it, found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5084534 but we are having some trouble solving it. Basically, my driver and wireless card are detected and working just fine, apparently... but we can't use them or connect to any networks. The wireless light on the network port is blue which means the killswitch is off. I have looked at the other threads and the wiki and nothing
[15:19] <mDemocritus> selocol: or man ps
[15:19] <selocol> thanks everyone. so "ps" alone just lists the running processes in a terminal session. got it
[15:19] <Slart> selocol: but you've read the fine manual for ps, haven't you.. then you recognize this little bit =) "By default, ps selects all processes with the same effective user ID (euid=EUID) as the current user and associated with the same terminal as the invoker.
[15:19] <Bizzeh> free open source software... claims to be all about community and freedom, when in actual fact. its more about comunism
[15:19] <remu> Hey guys, I need help installing the Aurora gtk Engine, I'm on Ubuntu 8.04 x86_64.
[15:20] <nonw46> i need help configuring a v4l fm-tuner card
[15:20] <selocol> Slart: that's...a little too advanced for me to understand, but thanks. i'll look at it more carefully!
[15:20] <tj83> I was helping agion edit xorg.conf... and it didnt fail to start x but not all of his keyboard functions (keys) were operational after reboot... I only edited video and screen options.. why would his keyboard be affected?
[15:20] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: when I click on it, it opens with the file browser. if I try it with firefox, I log anonymously and get a blank page
[15:20] <Slart> Bizzeh: did you have a question? if you just want to rant there's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:20] <Chad2408m> Hello, can anyone help me?
[15:20] <Sir_Fawnpug> Slart, I'm sure he's just trolling
[15:20] <bazhang> Bizzeh, indeed chat elsewhere
[15:20] <nonw46> hi Chad2408m
[15:20] <Varanger> Please... anybody... do you know any MP3 aplitter?
[15:20] <Varanger> splitter
[15:21] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: problem solved!
[15:21] <mDemocritus> !ask | Chad2408m
[15:21] <jbroome> nonw46: http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-aurora-gtk-engine-13-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html   3rd hit on the google
[15:21] <Mariux> remu http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-aurora-gtk-engine-13-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[15:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> Varanger, by a splitter, what do you mean?
[15:21] <etronik> Varanger: audacity ?
[15:21] <jbroome> Mariux: too slow! :)
[15:21] <Chad2408m> hi nonw48, sorry if I am being rude, I just finally found out how to install XChat, and Im having major problems with Ubuntu right now
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt Glad to help
[15:21] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: instead of 192.168.254.1:20, I entered ftp://192.168.254.1
[15:21] <Varanger> Sir_Fawnpug: Cut a MP3 in pieces
[15:21] <Mariux> jbroome ahah
[15:21] <remu> thanks Mariux, ill try that
[15:21] <nonw46> remu, http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-aurora-gtk-engine-13-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html   3rd hit on the google < jbroome
[15:21] <ubot3`> Chad2408m: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> Varanger, ah, well as etronik mentioned, Audacity is great for that
[15:22] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: not 20, 21
[15:22] <Bizzeh> Slart: i did ask a question... then was just told "go find out somewhere else"
[15:22] <nonw46> i'm the v4l radio tuner guy
[15:22] <nonw46> ;)
[15:22] <Varanger> etronik: Thanks!
[15:22] <Varanger> Sir_Fawnpug: Thanks!
[15:22] <mDemocritus> wow.... ubot3` is slacking :D
[15:22] <nonw46> Chad2408m, what kind of problems?
[15:22] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: thanks! Good luck fighting all the pirates in the carribean, bye!
[15:22] <nonw46> we're all ears over here
[15:22]  * Varanger says lol
[15:22] <jbroome> actually, those are nice themes, i'll check them out. :)
[15:22] <Slart> Bizzeh: nope.. you were told how to edit your fstab from what I can see in the logs
[15:22] <etronik> How do I create an initrd image while booted from a rescue disk ? still trying to recover from failed upgrade - TIA
[15:23] <Taza> Varanger: Audacity isn't automatic but it's the best thing that I've seen for ubuntu.
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude | Bizzeh
[15:23] <ubot3`> Bizzeh: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:23] <remu> Mariux, nonw46: I forgot I didn't have buil-essentiall installed, lol, thanks guys
[15:23] <Slart> Bizzeh: but to answer your original question.. nope, I don't think there's an app for setting up drives to automount.. but editing the fstab isn't that hard, you just have to be careful
[15:23] <c_sokun> what is the default version of Netbeans on Hardy?
[15:23] <Bizzeh> Slart: no, i wasnt told HOW, i was told "edit in a text editor" i didnt actualy get an answer to my question
[15:23] <Taza> Bizzeh: Welcome to the Ubuntu Community. Your attitude of expecting anyone to be helpful instead of just chiding you is not appriciated.
[15:24] <nonw46> !!! my panel just froze
[15:24] <ubot3`> nonw46: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:24] <nonw46> how can i restart it?
[15:24] <nonw46> this has happened before
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh Did you ask a follow up question before you called us communists
[15:24] <Taza> Bizzeh: There are several apps to set drives to automount. /etc/fstab is still much, much faster.
[15:24] <Taza> Bizzeh: Plus, OSS is more like ultracapitalism
[15:24] <mynyml> are the rumors true about hardy amd64 being able to install flash out of the box? no more manual hacks?
[15:25] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: try running "man fstab" from a terminal
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash64
[15:25] <ubot3`> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[15:25] <nonw46> Bizzeh, it's actually really easy once you get the hang of it.... but i personally think you can use an app, it's easier
[15:25] <Bizzeh> /etc/fstab is faster, when you know what your doing, and you KNOW fstab.. when you dont, you have to go through the trouble of breaking it and doing it wrong and the unabiltiy to boot your pc several times
[15:25] <nonw46> exactly
[15:25] <Taza> Bizzeh: /etc/fstab is both faster and easier for automount instead of mount on click.
[15:25] <Slart> Bizzeh: you'd better check your logs.. you asked if there was an app, someone suggested you edit fstab using a text editor.. then you told us that last time you did that it hosed your system.. that's not a question.. if you have any questions about editing the fstab you can ask those and we will do our best to help you
[15:25] <nonw46> if my panel, "ubuntu menu", and everythign else other than xchat weren't frozen i'd look it up for ya
[15:25] <kane77> c_sokun, I'm not sure, but I'd say 6.0
[15:26] <mynyml> Jack_Sparrow: is there any thing left that would be annoying on 64bits? how about skype?
[15:26] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: make a backup of it - cp /etc/fstab /etc fstab.bck
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh You are told it took just a minute to restore your old fstab.. Did you bother to ask any questions about that
[15:26] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: then if you break it, you can just restore the backup
[15:26] <nonw46> can you all please stop fighting for a minute and give me a hand maybe?
[15:26] <Bizzeh> when you have a broken fstab.. and cannot boot into text... then having a backup is useless
[15:26] <Taza> mDemocritus: Both incomplete and not necessarily the best idea.
[15:26] <kane77> c_sokun, yup it's 6.0
[15:26] <nonw46> what's ubuntu's equivalent of "restarting explorer.exe"?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> mynyml I still use 32 so Im not the best source for answers on that
[15:26] <mDemocritus> Taza: why is that?
[15:26] <mynyml> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[15:26] <Slart> nonw46: pkill nautilus
[15:26] <Taza> nonw46: startx
[15:27] <c_sokun> how can I check version of the package on the repository? I don't want to apt-get install if it not the version I want.
[15:27] <kane77> nonw46, killall gnome-panel
[15:27] <Stroganoff> haha its not startx
[15:27] <ompaul> nonw46, log out an back in mi
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh Please ask your support related questions and avoid this discussion
[15:27] <amenado> Bizzeh-> have you have your coffee yet? drink a cup of joe, your nerves will chill a bit :P
[15:27] <nonw46> thanks all but i can't get a command prompt
[15:27] <Taza> Stroganoff: It most decidedly is.
[15:27] <Slart> nonw46: I think it restarts by itself... you can just kill X too if you want that (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[15:27] <Chad2408m> The resolution of Ubuntu is horrible at 640x480.  I cant hardely see anything. I tried to follow all these tutorials about xorg.config and such but got nowhere.  Ubuntu has nothing written for 'Monitor' or 'Display' in the file.  I know all the things you need to configure a monitor (eg vertsync, and size) but I dont know what to do.  Whenever I try to do something I can never hit apply or ok wither because the resolution is
[15:27] <Chad2408m> too low.  Please help me I posted a problem at the ubuntu forums but got no help.  My driver should either be: Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller or i810.  Can anyone tell me how to either manually configure a driver/monitor, or tell me how/where to download drivers for these cards.  any help is very appreciated. Thanks!
[15:27] <nonw46> BRB
[15:27] <Stroganoff> Taza most people use a login manager..
[15:27] <Taza> Stroganoff: So?
[15:27] <nonw46> wait, isn't ctrl+alt+backspace "reset to defaults"?
[15:27] <Taza> Stroganoff: That's the closest equilevant of restarting explorer.exe if you ever need to start it.
[15:28] <Starnestommy> nonw46: no, that's "restart X"
[15:28] <mDemocritus> Taza: i get that it's incomplete, but why is making a backup of fstab not a good idea?
[15:28] <nonw46> ah
[15:28] <bazhang> nonw46, that will restart xserver
[15:28] <Sir_Fawnpug> nonw46, ctrl-alt-bksp usually kills X
[15:28] <Stroganoff> Taza i think you overrate explorer.exe :p
[15:28] <c_sokun> kane77: thanks
[15:28] <mynyml> Does anyone know if there's still stuff that doesn't work as simply on hardy 64bits as it does on 32bits?
[15:28] <mynyml> like skype?
[15:28] <Taza> mDemocritus: Making a backup of fstab is a good idea. Making one in /etc/ is not. And you need Knoppix to restore it.
[15:28] <bazhang> flash?
[15:28] <ConstyXIV> anyone know how to use a phone as a modem via bluetooth?
[15:28] <mDemocritus> Taza: ah good call
[15:29] <Slart> nonix4: it's a violent way of killing X.. only use if if you have to
[15:29] <kane77> mynyml, flash and skype work without any problems
[15:29] <mynyml> bazhang: according to the rumors, flash just works out of the box..
[15:29] <Taza> mDemocritus: Or the Ubuntu LiveCD but that's, uh, just awful.
[15:29] <Slart> ConstyXIV: I've done it using my laptop and mobile.. it's a bit weird but it works
[15:29] <OsamaK> Hello! Is Firefox 3.0RC packaged on Ubuntu? If so, How to install it? I have no updates for firefox since version beta 5..
[15:29] <mynyml> kane77: thank you! anything else i should be careful about?
[15:29] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: so to amend my advice, cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.bck
[15:29] <ratpoison> hello, how can I review all the active connections on my pc and which program controls them?
[15:29] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: to make the backup
[15:29] <Taza> mDemocritus: cp /etc/fstab ~/.fstab
[15:29] <Taza> :P
[15:29] <bazhang> mynyml, thus the question mark :)
[15:29] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: try sudo netstat -ap -A tcp
[15:29] <darrend> ratpoison: sudo netstat -panlt
[15:29] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, have you heard of a program called Ethereal? It's pretty useful when it comes to auditing connections
[15:30] <Slart> ratpoison: netstat can give you some information.. usually to much information... but it's a start
[15:30] <selocol> Slart: so ctrl+alt+backspace is not the same thing as log out?
[15:30] <Bizzeh> i changed my mind. this place is the worst help community i have ever been to
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mDemocritus check this  cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/fstab.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[15:30] <Chad2408m> Hello, can someone please help me?!?
[15:30] <Terabyte> Hey, where can I find the hardy heron dsektop background for download?
[15:30] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: but with "inet" not "tcp"
[15:30] <Bizzeh> im switching back to gentoo
[15:30] <Bizzeh> bye
[15:30] <Slart> selocol: nope.. it's more of a "yank the cord out of the wall"-way of logging out
[15:30] <ratpoison> thnx guys for the wealth of info, I'll man netstat for more details
[15:30] <Taza> He's switching back to Gentoo because Ubuntu is too difficult? :P
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Switching to gentoo.. that will work
[15:30] <kane77> mynyml, hmm.. I can't think of anything right now.. the situation got better (I've been running 64-bit ubuntu for 3 years now)
[15:30] <mDemocritus> that's hilarious
[15:30] <etronik> anybody help me create an initrd image ?? without it I have a dead system
[15:30] <selocol> Slart: oh my.. thanks, that's very helpful. i've been using it all the time as if it were logging out
[15:30] <Chad2408m> hello?
[15:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Taza, I'm a bit curious as to why his fstab would be so complex that he couldn't regenerate it by hand
[15:31] <mynyml> kane77: i guess its time i give it a try then. thanks
[15:31] <Taza> Sir_Fawnpug: You, frankly, shouldn't be here.
[15:31] <mDemocritus> gentoo has its place... it taught me so much about linux during the THREE WEEKS it took me to get X running :D
[15:31] <Taza> Sir_Fawnpug: Your skill level is WAY too high for users like that.
[15:31] <mynyml> bazhang: got ya =) yeah i guess i'll believe it when i see it for myself =)
[15:31] <Starnestommy> !test
[15:31] <ubot3`> Failed!
[15:31] <mDemocritus> Chad2408m: patience is a virtue... what was your question again
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Sir_Fawnpug It inst diffiecult..
[15:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Taza, probably not, but if he's going to throw salt in the wound and whine about volunteers helping him
[15:32] <Taza> Sir_Fawnpug: Me and you could easily regenerate a fstab by hand but if he managed to break his system editing fstab he ain't got the skill
[15:32] <Starnestommy> !fixres | Chad2408m (try this)
[15:32] <ubot3`> Chad2408m (try this): The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:32] <bazhang> lets get back ontopic :)
[15:32] <smallfoot-> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY UBUNTU IS BROKEN!!!!!!!!
[15:32] <smallfoot-> W: GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster[at]ubuntu[dot]com>
[15:32] <amenado> gaof  you there? we can try some things
[15:32] <Slart> smallfoot-: stop that..
[15:32] <bazhang> smallfoot-, lose the caps
[15:32] <selocol> if i ctrl+alt+backspace and i get a black/blank screen with no login window and ctrl+alt+f4 or f7 both don't work, what key combination should i try? thanks
[15:32] <smallfoot-> ????++++
[15:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> Taza, well it's not something that I generally recommend to ubuntu users
[15:32] <ratpoison> can I use apt-get to just read the package description?
[15:33] <jhasse> How can I change the "sans-serif" alias?
[15:33] <Starnestommy> smallfoot-: ubuntu isn't broken, but that GPG key is.  Try disabling the hardy-proposed repository
[15:33] <kane77> smallfoot-, there is no reason for SHOUTING
[15:33] <Taza> Anyway, I'm out. I have a lot of reading to do
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- Running proposed ... in your sources for a particular reason ?
[15:33] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: try aptitude show <package-name>
[15:33] <smallfoot-> ratpoison, "dpkg -l "compiz"" maybe
[15:33] <smallfoot-> Jack_Sparrow, yes i want new cool stuff on my computers
[15:33] <kane77> ratpoison, aptitude show packagename
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- Asking for trouble...
[15:34] <etronik> mmm my help request ain't getting thru.. I wonder if I shout ;-)
[15:34] <Slart> smallfoot-: new stuff isn't always cool
[15:34] <smallfoot-> Jack_Sparrow, but ubnutu is boring, i want cool stuff, like new compiz plugins
[15:34] <Chad2408m> My questions is basicly: I need help with the Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller or i810 driver.  Can anyone tell me how to either manually configure a driver/monitor, or tell me how/where to download drivers for these cards.  any help is very appreciated. My resolution is too low to do anything (640x480)
[15:34] <Starnestommy> smallfoot-: new stuff breaks faster
[15:34] <mDemocritus> selocol: try ctrl-alt-backspace, then hit f2 when the screen goes black
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- I can give you a page of them if that is what you want..
[15:34] <mDemocritus> selocol: it might get you to a login
[15:34] <smallfoot-> Jack_Sparrow,  oh ok
[15:34] <Slart> smallfoot-: then you'll have to learn how to handle stuff like this..
[15:35] <jhasse> Chad2408m, try to install "915resolution"
[15:35] <selocol> mDemocritus: thanks
[15:35] <Slart> smallfoot-: without running around shouting like the world is going to end for every error message
[15:35] <mDemocritus> selocol: did it work?
[15:35] <ratpoison> oh. Basically from what I understand, aptitude and apt-get are similar tools, but apt-get has super COW powers and aptitude doesn't. Other than that, are the interchangeable? which one should I prefer when I could use both?
[15:35] <smallfoot-> calculator dont have color on buttons, webcam dont work, it dont have wallpaper changer like macosx
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5303  fish inside your cube floating windows etc
[15:35] <selocol> mDemocritus: i'll have to wait until it happens again.. ;P
[15:35] <selocol> mDemocritus: ive been pulling the power cord previously :/
[15:35] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: aptitude has a nice interface when run with no parameters
[15:35] <bazhang> smallfoot-, we talked about this before; have you forgotten?
[15:36] <mDemocritus> selocol: ah... what was the original reason for it?
[15:36] <Slart> ratpoison: they are interchangable..
[15:36] <Slart> ratpoison: some people say aptitude handles dependencies better... but that was a couple of years ago..
[15:36] <selocol> mDemocritus: i just did ctrl+alt+backspace and the login window never appeared
[15:36] <umyi> Hello, is there some way to get restore the last directory you have deleted?
[15:36] <smallfoot-> bazhang, maybe
[15:36] <Slart> umyi: trash bin?
[15:36] <umyi> Slart: Yes
[15:36] <Slart> umyi: if you used nautilus
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart Ubuntu implimented tohse features in our verrsion of apt-get
[15:36] <smallfoot-> bazhang, oh wait, yes you was the guy who banned me
[15:36] <mDemocritus> selocol: right... but i'm asking... why did you need to do that?
[15:37] <smallfoot-> bazhang, yes, but this time i didnt say any bad words
[15:37] <bloops> Can I install step from the repositories? Its in kde-edu.
[15:37] <ratpoison> other than having freedom of choice, what is the reason for two tools for basically the same thing?
[15:37] <Terabyte> Hey, where can I find the hardy heron desktop background for download?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- and you are well on your way again
[15:37] <ripper666> hey i know that automatix is done making programs for ubuntu atfer 7.4 but are their any other programs that do the same thing???
[15:37] <umyi> Slart: I might have, dont remember exactly how I did it
[15:37] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please read this: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[15:37] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: yes.. it was fixed in.. dapper? feisty?
[15:37] <selocol> mDemocritus: i didn't know what else to do
[15:37] <umyi> slart it was few hours ago though
[15:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, it pretty much boils down to choice
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart I have slept since then so I dont remember
[15:37] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: aptitude has some extra features, handles conflicts better, and has a more advanced interface
[15:37] <Slart> umyi: do you see the trash bin on your desktop?
[15:37] <mDemocritus> ratpoison: welcome to the FLOSS comunity... there's normally at least a couple ways to do the same thing
[15:38] <umyi> Slart: No, I used live cd to install
[15:38] <Chad2408m> jhasse, thanks for the information, but when I installed it through synaptic it said this: 915resolution   -   What should I do know?
[15:38] <mDemocritus> selocol: you still misunderstand me... why did you need to do that? did the system lock up, or what?
[15:38] <ratpoison> mDemocritus, I realise that... it's just that I find the "me too" project philosophy a bit redundant
[15:39] <jhasse> Chad2408m, you could try "sudo apt-get install 915resolution"
[15:39] <ray_> anyone experiences ubuntu server and gallery2 ?
[15:39] <Slart> umyi: hmm.. ok.. let's back up a bit.. you had a working ubuntu system.. and using that system you deleted some files/folders.. and you're still running that same system, right?
[15:39] <selocol> mDemocritus: yes, without the login screen, i couldn't do anything. system did not respond to any of the key combinations i tried. so it locked up, perhaps
[15:39] <mDemocritus> ratpoison: of course it is... but there's scenarios that make it worthwile
[15:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, the redundancy, imho, is actually a good thing
[15:39] <Chad2408m> jhasse, sorry about that.  It said that It couldnt find something and that it wasnt automaticly configured and that I should do it manually, what do I do now?
[15:39] <gaof_> I was told how to fix the wireless but it requires a restart of init.d/networking and then using iwconfig for the connection with dhclient wlan0. Is there a way to automate such a task, not as a script, but to just have the system do this instead of us for wireless upon loading the destop?
[15:39] <mDemocritus> selocol: ok so when you boot, you don't get the login screen?
[15:39] <umyi> Slart: Yes
[15:39] <etronik> well! time to blow my system out the water and try to restore data from tape later on... my best guess right now is upgrade to Hardy Heron completely F###d my system !
[15:40] <Tyller> whatever
[15:40] <bloops> is there kde-edu 'beta1' in the repos?
[15:40] <Slart> umyi: you installed the regular ubuntu?
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik Please dont swear even if you try to discuize it
[15:40] <selocol> mDemocritus: i was in fluxbox. i wanted to switch to gnome, so i hit ctrl+alt+backspace. instead of the login screen showing, i got a blank/black screen, which did not respond to any key combinations. i tried ctrl+alt+f7 and ctrl+alt+f4 and ctrl+alt+backspace.
[15:40] <ratpoison> Sir_Fawnpug, well redundancy is the last measure you can take for system reliability, but it increases system complexity. I guess this is an engineering question of how to compromise between the two
[15:40] <amenado> Chad2408m-> can you do this   gksu displayconfig-gtk   and configure your video card from there?
[15:41] <umyi> Slart: Yes, from the live CD, I had still the files when it was installed
[15:41] <spsneo> i changed my home folder , now when i try to login i get the error This process is currently running setuid or setgid
[15:41] <spsneo> This is not a supported use of GTK+
[15:41] <Slart> umyi: if you open the file explorer (it's really called nautilus).. ie double click on a drive or something
[15:41] <spsneo> what to do
[15:41] <Infinito_> I think it's much better this way.. if you don't like the way some tool is developed you can step in and develop another one to please yourself and maybe other discontent linux users, ratpoison.
[15:41] <etronik> Jack_Sparrow: sure. soryr
[15:41] <umyi> Slart: ok
[15:41] <mDemocritus> selocol: try not to use ctrl-alt-backspace unless you really need to... it's not a very nice way to restart X
[15:41] <mDemocritus> selocol: from what i understand that is
[15:41] <etronik> Jack_Sparrow: sure. sorry!
[15:41] <Slart> umyi: do you see a panel on the left side with your drives?
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik I understand your frustration...
[15:41] <umyi> Slart: yes
[15:42] <selocol> mDemocritus: yeah, i didn't know that until just now.. thanks
[15:42] <durka> how do you add a startup item when it's a program that has to be run from the command line with a specific $PWD
[15:42] <Infinito_> I think it's cool to consider aspects other than technical when building a system, but I speak only for myself here :)
[15:42] <Slart> umyi: at the bottom of that panel there should be something called "Trash".. click it
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik Do you keep a sep /home partition?
[15:42] <brando1> hi, could someone help me install my router and tell me what I need to do to do "port forwarding"?
[15:42] <pen> selocol, what's your question?
[15:42] <mDemocritus> selocol: np... if you log out of fluxbox, do you get back to the login prompt?
[15:42] <Chad2408m> amendado, thank you very much.  I was able to change the resolution, now I just have to kog on/off for changes to be made.  Ill tell you if it works.
[15:43] <selocol> mDemocritus: yes
[15:43] <ray_> please anyone, ubuntu (latest) server and gallery2, installed it, installed imagemagick, jhead and all the 'have to' stuff on a ubuntu web/php/mysql server, no directory with gallery, what am i doing wrong
[15:43] <STSX> durka: Just include the full path when you specify the program in the "command" area.
[15:43] <mDemocritus> selocol: ok cool.... don't use ctrl-alt-backspace then :D
[15:43] <brando1> how do i install a linksys router in ubuntu?
[15:43] <spsneo> i changed my home folder , now when i try to login i get the error This process is currently running setuid or setgid This is not a supported use of GTK+ what to do
[15:43] <umyi> Slart: There is no Trash, Its the 7.04 version
[15:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, I guess the best answer for that is that UNIX is inherently modular, so the redundancy lets more advanced users set up their environment to their liking
[15:43] <selocol> mDemocritus: ok, got it :P
[15:43] <Caf-Fiend> morning all, security-wise am I ok to change the permissions of /var/www/ so I can put files in there?
[15:43] <Slart> umyi: ohh.. my bad.. thought you were using hardy.. hmm ok.. hang on
[15:44] <soshka> hello helpline?
[15:44] <Terabyte> brando: the linksys router installs itself
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> brando1 for port forwarding.. See your router setup.. not a hard thing to do
[15:44] <mar77i> hey, where does the stuff go I choose "only for download" in synaptic?
[15:44] <mDemocritus> brando1: there's no software to install... plug into the router, reboot the system, then point a web browser to http://192.168.1.1/
[15:44] <bazhang> hello soshka
[15:44] <Slart> umyi: on the desktop.. do you see a trash bin icon anywhere? usually lower right corner or on the background itself
[15:44] <Terabyte> brando: portforwarding depends on the router, what router do you have (what isp are you with)
[15:44] <mDemocritus> brando1: the rest is up to you and linksys :D
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> mDemocritus thanks.. you beat me to it
[15:44] <mar77i> [[for]]... or so
[15:44] <Armada> I've broken my ntfs partition, but I know what's wrong. In the partitiontable it says the partition starts at 63 but it actually starts at 64. How do I fix this?
[15:45] <brando1> so then how do i configure port forwarding, im not even sure what that is, but i read that its what i need to do to make Transmission faster
[15:45] <umyi> Slart: Ah, i didnt look after it there in first place
[15:45] <ratpoison> Sir_Fawnpug, another thing is that if one tool fails some reason, you have another tool for the job. That causes some bloating I guess, but it boils down to choice I guess
[15:45] <Terabyte> brando: you will find the control panel for your router by typing 192.168.1.254 into firefox. from there you can setup port forwarding,
[15:45] <bazhang> www.portforward.com brando1
[15:45] <Slart> umyi: =) it can be sneaky
[15:45] <mDemocritus> brando1: it's in the applications and gaming section usually
[15:45] <suRs> can anyone tell me how do i check what ip i have in terminal ?
[15:45] <umyi> my files were there thx :)
[15:45] <mDemocritus> brando1: follow the link from bazhang... good site for it
[15:45] <Terabyte> ifconfig
[15:45] <AlexCONRAD> hi, how can I browse my windows network neighborhood with ubuntu through GUI ? I don't see how I can browse it (i'm under xfce)
[15:45] <suRs> my conky says i have ip adress 0.0.0.0 and its  pretty still
[15:45] <Infinito_> Slart, you want to make your trash icon visible ?
[15:45] <mar77i> can anyone tell me where I have to look for the deb file which synaptic has "only downloaded" for me?
[15:46] <brando1> thanks
[15:46] <Slart> Infinito_: nope.. but thanks anyway =)
[15:46] <mDemocritus> suRs: ifconfig
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba | AlexCONRAD
[15:46] <ubot3`> AlexCONRAD: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[15:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, I'm not sure if there's an easy way to fix that
[15:46] <Infinito_> ok
[15:46] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: Then what's the hard way? :P
[15:46] <ray_> anyone with a solution for this gallery2 problem ?
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> mar77i /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:46] <soshka> i have internet issues anyone willing to help
[15:47] <kwtm> Why can't I play an "ogg" (vorbis) audio file?  What Ubuntu package do I have to install to play these files (with Amarok, mplayer, xine, etc)?
[15:47] <chev_chelios> soshka: what is it?
[15:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, my advice would be to back up the partition table and take a hex editor to it
[15:47] <mar77i> Jack_Sparrow: thank you!
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !ogg
[15:47] <ubot3`> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, you might also be able to do it with fdisk or gparted, but I'm not so sure about that
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> mar77i np
[15:47] <Infinito_> soshka, what's your problem exactly ?
[15:47] <Slart> umyi: did you find your files?
[15:47] <noobuntu> hello @all
[15:47] <chev_chelios> hello noobuntu
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi | chev_chelios
[15:47] <ubot3`> chev_chelios: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:47] <chev_chelios> nice nick btw
[15:47] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks, I'll check the web page.  Didn't expect to have issues with a non-restricted format like Ogg.
[15:47] <Caf-Fiend> so yeah - hw do i change permissions of /var/www so I can put my web page in there?
[15:47] <noobuntu> thx :D
[15:48] <Caf-Fiend> or am i going about things the wrong way
[15:48] <noobuntu> it tells all about my ubuntu knowledge :P
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm Agreed
[15:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, as long as you keep all of the relevant info handy, you could redo the partition table and it won't format anything
[15:48] <umyi> Slart: I was because i importing some pics to my pc, after i did format the camera, i found out that 1/3, was just grey, then I remembered that I had imported it twice and would just find out whether they were grey both, yes I found the file, thank you, but they 1/3 were grey both places
[15:48] <chev_chelios> soshka: what is your problem with internet?
[15:48] <umyi> *it
[15:48] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: What if I request to move the partition but stop the operation as soon as it corrected the table?
[15:48] <daniel_> Hello folks
[15:48] <Slart> umyi: ah.. to bad
[15:48] <ray_> Caf-Fiend: no you dont change them let them be the way they are
[15:49] <darrend> is qemu still the right package to be installing, or has something superseded it now?
[15:49] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Hey! That web page doesn't say how to play Ogg files. :P  My Ubuntu came with the ability to play mp3's but not Ogg!?
[15:49] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: this is the place where all noobs and kung fu masters exchange the knowledge, because knowledge is power!
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada Sounds like a good way to break your system
[15:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, I think fdisk is transaction-based, it might rollback
[15:49] <daniel_> I'm about to download an Ubuntu install CD to install on my Desktop. Now I'm struggling whether to use 64 or 32 bit. Does compiz work with 64 bit on Ubuntu?
[15:49] <Caf-Fiend> ray_: cheers, ok then, where do I put my html files?
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm What distro are you using.. clearly not ubuntu
[15:49] <Slart> daniel: how much memory do you have ?
[15:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, don't quote me on that though
[15:49] <bazhang> daniel, may as well get 32bit
[15:49] <daniel> Slart: I don't have more than 4GB of memory
[15:49] <umyi> Slart: Now I moved the pics to a USB stick, then it reset the modified date both on the USB stick and on the desktop
[15:50] <mDemocritus> daniel: 64 bit is usually more of a hassle than it's worth
[15:50] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty, currently up to date.
[15:50] <daniel> bazhang: Yes I guess that'll keep away much trouble.
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm in a term   type lsb_release -a
[15:50] <daniel> Thanks guys, will go 32bit then.
[15:50] <ray_> Caf-Fiend: simply in /var/www, use sudo if needed to copy them
[15:50] <Slart> daniel: 64-bit can be a bit cranky when it comes to flash, java, electronic id's and such.. but you'll get those 0,5% extra performance =)
[15:50] <soshka> sorry extreme lag
[15:50] <noobuntu> chev_chelios: so, kung-fu masters, beat the sh*t out of me :)))
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm No version of kubuntu plays mp3s out of the box
[15:50] <soshka> basically my net works but it is very VERY SLOW
[15:50] <Caf-Fiend> can i i do it with gui?
[15:50] <soshka> i have broadband 20mbit
[15:50] <bazhang> daniel, I have 64bit computer and 32 bit runs great :)
[15:50] <amen51> hi all. When I'm using firefox and a Flash is played, alsa get busy and other media players (e.g. mplayer) cannot accsess. This happens in Hardy. Is there a solution?
[15:51] <soshka> so i shouldnt wait 40 min to get into google
[15:51] <Caf-Fiend> ray_: i mean, how do i use sudo in gui
[15:51] <spsneo> i changed my home folder , now when i try to login i get the error This process is currently running setuid or setgid This is not a supported use of GTK+ what to do
[15:51] <mDemocritus> soshka: we need more info... what router, what service, etc
[15:51] <amenado> soshka-> you have a bit counter?
[15:51] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: one day you become kung fu master, and serve other noobs...
[15:51] <bazhang> Caf-Fiend, gksudo
[15:51] <noobuntu> all: i have issues with ubuntu update, can't upgrade
[15:51] <umyi> Slart: I think its too late to get the original dates back now, but in the future, is there a way to keep the original modified date?
[15:51] <Slart> umyi: yes.. I think moving files counts as modifying them... but the images probably have the date embedded in the image tag thingy
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Caf-Fiend gksudo
[15:51] <soshka> i have very little knowledge in what you all have said
[15:51] <Caf-Fiend> ta
[15:51] <smallfoot-> Saelynh, you are so cool, how can you have ipv6?
[15:51] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Would it play ogg out of the box?  If not, what do I do to get it to play ogg?  Btw, result of "lsb_release -a" is: No LSB modules are available. / Distributor ID: Ubuntu / Description:    Ubuntu 7.04 / Release:        7.04 / Codename:       feisty
[15:51] <soshka> is there a terminal command results i can post to help you help me
[15:51] <chev_chelios> kinda like me, i guess. i started noob, reached larvae, now i am an experienced fighter, one day praying to become kung fu master...
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Caf-Fiend gksudo nautilus                      but it is not forgiving if you make a mistake
[15:52] <umyi> Slart: ok
[15:52] <mDemocritus> soshka: what brand of device connects your computer to the internet, and who do you pay for your internet service?
[15:52] <umyi> :)
[15:52] <etronik> Jack_Sparrow: Don't think I have separate home, just backup tapes with bacula
[15:52] <noobuntu> chev_chelios: can you help me with upgrade to 8.04 ?
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm It should have played ogg and not mp3's
[15:52] <Saelynh> smallfoot-: I'm god
[15:52] <ray_> Caf-Fiend transfer them first to your homefolder, then cahnge yourself to 'sudo bash' and give your password, then copy or move them
[15:52] <smallfoot-> Saelynh, cool
[15:52] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: what is it?
[15:52] <bazhang> !ot
[15:52] <ubot3`> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:52] <Caf-Fiend> ta
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik I strongly suggest you look into a sep /home partition
[15:52] <noobuntu> first, how to manually force update?
[15:52] <Starnestommy> Caf-Fiend: use sudo -i, not sudo bash
[15:53] <LucaBrasi> hi all ;)
[15:53] <Caf-Fiend> ok
[15:53] <soshka> i have a motorolla broadband box thingy its virgin media (no problems with the company)
[15:53] <smallfoot-> noobuntu, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i think
[15:53] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: apt-get dist-update or dist-upgrade i think
[15:53] <Caf-Fiend> is there any reason i can't just change permissions on the folder
[15:53] <mDemocritus> soshka: do you have other computers?
[15:53] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Funny.  I brought over the autoconfig file from my previous installation, so I guess that's where it installed the mp3's.  But I didn't take anything away, unless installing mp3 support takes away ogg ability...
[15:53] <Caf-Fiend> so I can manipulate everyhitng in it
[15:53] <mDemocritus> soshka: use my nick in your message so my client highlights you please
[15:54] <amenado> soshka-> unless you are one heck of a big company, gettin a 20Mbit link to an ISP is mucho dolares in cost
[15:54] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: I tried looking in Adept for packages containing the word "ogg" but didn't know which one to install that would help me. :(
[15:54] <ray_> i still need a little help on this gallery2 and the ubuntu server, anyone?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm It should not have removed anything..  but it could have a conflict somewhere...
[15:54] <Infinito_> soshka, do you have other operation systems (i.e windows, freebsd, etc) that you could test to see if get slow internet on them too ? that would help discarding possible problems
[15:54] <mDemocritus> soshka: i've already missed a few of your messages
[15:54] <Caf-Fiend> i mean, it's only running PHP for a local page
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm Gimme a sec to read up..
[15:54] <smallfoot-> amenado, i have 100 mbit
[15:54] <Aondo> anyone noticed that if you move the mouse slowly, the cursor wont move, only when you move the mouse at a certain speed, the cursor starts moving at that speed aswell. this is with relativly low mouse sense since i like that :D
[15:54] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: So I guess one place to start would be the mp3 packages and see if I can find what it conflicts with?
[15:54] <amenado> smallfoot--> right, up to your hub only
[15:54] <mDemocritus> Aondo do you have an optical or laser mouse?
[15:54] <Aondo> mDemocritus  opical
[15:54] <smallfoot-> amenado, nope
[15:54] <Aondo> optical
[15:54] <Chad2408m> amenado, everything works great now.  Thanks, the only thing is that my refresh rate is down to 56 and by just looking at the xcreen makes you want to throw up.  what was that code you had me type in again.  it let me change the resolution and I forgot to change it.
[15:55] <Slart> Aondo: in ubuntu? I know windows XP has some weird "increase mouse precision" setting but I haven't seen it in ubuntu yet
[15:55] <smallfoot-> amenado, my ISP offers 100 mbit/s down and 10 mbit/s up
[15:55] <mDemocritus> Aondo might be your mouse....
[15:55] <Aondo> mDemocritus  it is not. i'm sure.
[15:55] <smallfoot-> amenado, i downloaded ubuntu 8.04 in 7-0 megabyte/s
[15:55] <Aondo> Slart  yes ubuntu
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm sudo apt-get install amarok-xine libxine1 libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs libogg0 liboggflac++2c2 liboggflac3 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3 vorbis-tools vorbisgain flac
[15:55]  * mDemocritus is jealous of smallfoot- and his wicked ISP
[15:55] <soshka> no only ubuntu
[15:55] <amenado> smallfoot--> you must live across from an ISP premises
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm From this page   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388537
[15:56] <soshka> ubutnu 8.0 something
[15:56] <smallfoot-> amenado, When I ran dist-upgrade, Ubuntu told me it would take some hours, it took <5 minutes
[15:56] <Slart> Aondo: I'm guessing it's your mouse that's doing it.. might be some kind of powersaving feature
[15:56] <soshka> last night the net was fine, perfectly fine now its all crazt
[15:56] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: its dist-upgrade i think, it ask me if i'm root
[15:56] <Aondo> Slart  it does not have that feature. it's a MX518
[15:56] <amenado> Chad2408m-> can you do this   gksu displayconfig-gtk   and configure your video card from there?
[15:56] <socr> during boo, my system asks me for a keyeing password TWICE . how come ?
[15:56] <mDemocritus> soshka: are you connected wirelessly or wired?
[15:56] <socr> boot
[15:56] <smallfoot-> amenado, its not so uncommon to have 100 mbit where i live, there are even some places with 1 gigabit, but its rare
[15:56] <soshka> wired
[15:56] <Aondo> Slart it all depends on the sense i set it to, either in gnome, or with xset m.
[15:57] <amen51> hi all, how to set alsa as the default sound driver in ubuntu hardy
[15:57] <smallfoot-> amenado, internet is fast in sweden, south-korea and japan, its only in USA where internet is sucks and 1970
[15:57] <mDemocritus> soshka: hop into a terminal for me
[15:57] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, will see which pkgs I'm missing. (Or be lazy and apt-get install them and let apt-get sort it all out.)
[15:57] <amenado> smallfoot--> where do you live?   you have fibre coming in to your premises?
[15:57] <Slart> Aondo: try checking out the assistive technology settings.. you might have hit a special key combo sometime and started something
[15:57] <Aondo> not sure how to solve this mouse sense stuff :P sounds like a bug in x mouse driver or something
[15:57] <soshka> yes
[15:57] <babolat> mDemocritus: System > Pref > Sound
[15:57] <thermoplyae> is there a way to remove the network indicator applet from the gnome toolbar?
[15:57] <chev_chelios> soshka: did you solve your internet problem?
[15:57] <mDemocritus> soshka: ping google.com
[15:57] <thermoplyae> everything else has a Remove From Panel option, but not it
[15:57] <mDemocritus> babolat: wrong nick? :D
[15:57] <smallfoot-> amenado, i live in sweden, in an appartment complex, it has fibre to the house, then cat5 to the appartments
[15:57] <amenado> smallfoot--> i believe you, if you do have fibres into the house,
[15:57] <Aondo> Slart  this is allways, exept when i set the mouse speed to a higher speed
[15:58] <mDemocritus> soshka: what's the time say?
[15:58] <Slart> thermoplyae: it isn't a panel object.. it'a a program running.. with an icon in the systray
[15:58] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: are you there?
[15:58] <babolat> mDemocritus > sorry
[15:58] <Aondo> Slart  it is only when i want a slow mouse sense, which i usually do
[15:58] <mDemocritus> babolat np
[15:58] <bazhang> lets take the fibre chat to offtopic please
[15:58] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: here i am
[15:58] <Aondo> the working one is too high
[15:58] <Slart> thermoplyae: pkill network-manager.. or if it's called nm-applet or something
[15:58] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: it asks me if i'm root
[15:58] <julle_> i am going to make an new installation of hardy and want to backup my stuff, what folders do i need to backup, home + etc folder or more folders ?
[15:58] <amenado> smallfoot--> okay that make sense, you swedish, japanese and koreans are making us live (merikans) in envy
[15:58] <Aondo> and the slow mouse sense is useless with this bug
[15:58] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: did you do it in console?
[15:58] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: sudo -s or how was it to change to root?
[15:58] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: yes
[15:59] <Slart> Aondo: well.. I've never heard of it before.. but it might be a driver issue.. I just don't know
[15:59] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:59] <Starnestommy> noobuntu: it's sudo -i
[15:59] <mDemocritus> noobuntu sudo -i if you want a root shell
[15:59] <chev_chelios> o rthat..
[15:59] <soshka> do i post results or
[15:59] <soshka> what am i looking for?
[15:59] <mDemocritus> much better than sudo su :D
[15:59] <Infinito_> Aondo,  you got a usb mouse? do you know your motherboard model ?
[15:59] <thermoplyae> slart: excellent
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm Shoot them all and let the ogg gods sort it out
[15:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> julle_, you might also want to back up some things in var, depending on your setup
[15:59] <mDemocritus> soshka: look for the "time=" number
[15:59] <amen51> hi, how to set alsa as the default sound driver system-wide (e.g. for command line mplayer), I kno how to do it for gnome
[16:00] <mordof> where is the info kept for the machine? i know there's something somewhere that you'd echo out to get system info but i forget where
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm Might save you a dep problem later
[16:00] <mDemocritus> it says something like this right ?64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=16.6 ms
[16:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> julle_, If you have anyting in /opt, you might want to back that up as well
[16:00] <thermoplyae> slart: is it safe to take more drastic action to prevent it from showing up at startup, or does it actually handle the process of connecting to a wireless network?
[16:00] <soshka> 94.6 ms
[16:00] <chev_chelios> mordof: you mean in console or in x?
[16:00] <mordof> console
[16:00] <thermoplyae> well, 'handle' here meaning 'initiate'
[16:00] <mDemocritus> soshka: is that consistant?
[16:00] <chev_chelios> mordof: i think lspci
[16:00] <chev_chelios> lists all pci devices
[16:01] <chev_chelios> all devices
[16:01] <mDemocritus> soshka: and please include my nickname in your message
[16:01] <smallfoot-> amenado, the mother of the guy who owns one of the internet companies here are like 70 years old and have like 10 or 40 gbit/s connection lol
[16:01] <Slart> thermoplyae: I'm not really sure how much of the actual work it does.. or if its' just a gui for the configuration settings..
[16:01] <mordof> that's one of them.. how bout proc info, etc?
[16:01] <soshka> mDemocritus: ok
[16:01] <thermoplyae> slart: then there's only one way to find out :)  thanks again
[16:01] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please chat elsewhere thanks
[16:01] <Aondo> Infinito_  usb mouse yes. MX518. MSI K9N SLI Platinum motherboard
[16:01] <Slart> thermoplyae: indeed =) you're welcoem
[16:01] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: i did something, or better to say nothing. 0 upgrades
[16:01] <chev_chelios> i've got to go... bye people!
[16:01] <smallfoot-> bazhang, oh sorry
[16:01] <chev_chelios> noobuntu:
[16:02] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: ?
[16:02] <amenado> smallfoot--> yesh, but if she is talking to a friend somewhere in bolivia where its a dial up at 56kbps..umm..she'd had more fun..hehe
[16:02] <bazhang> !ot
[16:02] <ubot3`> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:02] <julle_> Sir_Fawnpug: Thank you ! yeah i do
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[16:02] <mDemocritus> soshka: does the time change much?
[16:02] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[16:02] <pablo> hi
[16:02] <Lr5> Is it normal that Ubuntu disables an irq and tells you to try using irqpoll option even if you have irqpoll in boot options? I have to try a couple of times to get it to boot (Ubuntu 8.04, fully updated)
[16:02] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: what are you using now> hardy or feisty? (7.10 or 8.04)
[16:02] <pablo> can somebody help me
[16:02] <soshka> 01.0 change
[16:02] <mDemocritus> !ask | pablo
[16:02] <ubot3`> pablo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:02] <Slart> !ask | pablo
[16:02] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: 7.10
[16:02] <pablo> i have a problem upgrading my ubuntu to hardy
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Aondo Those logitec mice have given me nothing but grief..
[16:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> julle_, is your home directory mounted on a seperate partition? If it's not, consider creating a seperate home partition.
[16:03] <smallfoot-> pablo, what problem?
[16:03] <ianliu_88> !foo | ianliu_88
[16:03] <smallfoot-> pablo, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:03] <smallfoot-> !upgrade
[16:03] <ubot3`> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:03] <Aondo> Jack_Sparrow, what kind of trouble?
[16:03] <pablo> one sec
[16:03] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: and you want to upgrade to 8.04? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:03] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: if it doesn do, i dunno...
[16:03] <julle_> Sir_Fawnpug: yeah thats a good idea!
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Aondo everything from not working to working slow...  I wont use any mouse that need a driver ever again.. all generics for me.
[16:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> julle_, it helps things go a bit smoother in my opinion
[16:04] <chev_chelios> !upgrade | noobuntu
[16:04] <ubot3`> noobuntu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:04] <mDemocritus> soshka: you can hit ctrl-C to stop the pings
[16:04] <Aondo> Jack_Sparrow  hehe yea it's a plan for sure.
[16:04] <reflous> is there a better program to connect to wireless hosts than the builtin version?  The built-in is really slow in connecting
[16:04] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: where can i see which version i'm using?
[16:04] <babolat> that's a good idea, Jack_Sparrow
[16:04] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: try that link, it should have the explanations.
[16:04] <pablo> this is the error
[16:04] <pablo> A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[16:04] <pablo>  This can be caused by:
[16:04] <pablo>  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[16:04] <pablo>  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
[16:04] <FloodBot3> pablo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <pablo>  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
[16:04] <a7p> hi everyone, I am a bit confused about a removalrequest on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/vim-latexsuite/20060325-4.1
[16:04] <Infinito_> I've seen some mobos leading to usb mouse problems on linux/bsd, but I don't think that's your cause.
[16:04] <smallfoot-> reflous, you could try VNC or something, idk
[16:04] <Slart> !paste | pablo
[16:04] <ubot3`> pablo: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:04] <noobuntu> ubot3: thx, will look @ it
[16:04] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: help>about ubuntu
[16:04] <a7p> anone a tip where I can lookup further information?
[16:04] <Caf-Fiend> thankyou
[16:04] <Slart> pablo: you'll only get temporary banned if you paste stuff here
[16:05] <Caf-Fiend> PHP now working
[16:05] <chev_chelios> bye guys
[16:05] <reflous> smallfoot-, vnc doesn't connect to wireless though does it? it is just a remote desktop application right?
[16:05] <smallfoot-> reflous, yes its just remote desktop application
[16:05] <Armada> meh, I'll just throw away the partition and reinstall windows
[16:05] <mordof> was wondering what the command was in bash to list processor info, etc. i was informed lspci for pci devices but i'm not sure for the others for variants of it
[16:05] <Armada> not like anything important was on there
[16:05] <Armada> just games
[16:05] <soshka> mDemocritus : what else
[16:05] <soshka> mDemocritus :287 packets transmitted, 27 received, 90% packet loss, time 384708ms
[16:05] <soshka> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 91.259/92.988/95.277/1.055 ms
[16:05] <reflous> smallfoot-, I'm looking for a program to actually connect to the internet wirelessly (detect hosts & connect to them) the built-in ubuntu thing doesn't seem very robust
[16:06] <mordof> ah, nevermind i found it
[16:06] <ianliu_88> when I minimize a pidgin conversation, new messages doesnt "emphasize" that window, on the bottom bar... Anyone know why?
[16:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, I would advise that you backup the partition, just in case
[16:06] <smallfoot-> reflous, sorry i dont know, i dont have wireless
[16:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, I've shot myself in the foot quite a few times by assuming there was nothing important on a partition
[16:06] <mDemocritus> mordof: dmesg | grep -i cpu
[16:06] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: How? It's no longer readable
[16:06] <mDemocritus> mordof: or dmesg | grep -i proc
[16:06] <babolat> ianliu_88: Tools > Preferences
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mordof /proc/cpuinfo 		#should show everything about your cpu(s) including the speeds
[16:06] <mDemocritus> mordof: i'm not sure if there's a command..
[16:06] <kwtm> reflous: knetworkmanager?
[16:07] <mDemocritus> mordof: ah, good call Jack_Sparrow :D
[16:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, you could do dd if=/dev/(partition) of=backup
[16:07] <crackaddict> any one know how to change it so my desktop manager is GDM
[16:07] <kwtm> reflous: (That's for Kubuntu; not sure what the equivalent is in Plain Ubuntu --but you can still install knetworkmanager in Plain Ubuntu)
[16:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, that will do a raw dump of the data on the partition
[16:07] <smallfoot-> Armada, becareful when using 'dd'
[16:07] <pablo> this is my problem  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16192/
[16:07] <mDemocritus> soshka: that's quite a bit of packet loss....
[16:07] <babolat> crackaddict:  how to change it --> what is *IT* ?
[16:08] <mordof> mDemocritus, Jack_Sparrow: /proc/cpuinfo was what i was looking for thank you.   then using cat to dispaly it.  ^^
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mordof Glad to hear it
[16:08] <crackaddict> errmmm i installed kubuntu kde4 desktop and now gdm isnt working
[16:08] <mDemocritus> mordof dmesg shows most of that too.... but it's a bit harder to read :D
[16:08] <crackaddict> i want to use gdm and i would like to know how
[16:08] <smallfoot-> pablo, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does not work?
[16:08] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: to find out which rel is currently running: lsb_release -a
[16:08] <soshka> mDemocritu : if only i knew what packet loss is?
[16:09] <mDemocritus> soshka: it means most of the info your computer is sending out to the internet is getting lost along the way
[16:09] <mDemocritus> soshka: basically
[16:09] <pablo> smallfoot, isnt the same to use the upgrade manager?
[16:09] <mDemocritus> soshka: is that computer only running ubuntu?
[16:09] <fanfannothing> samba这个东西怎么用啊，
[16:09] <fanfannothing>  我的UBUNTU怎么无法看到WINDOWS里面的共享文件啊
[16:09] <fanfannothing>  请高手帮一下忙啊，感谢
[16:09] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: Well there is only one file I could possibly want to keep, which is mpdata containing my CoD4 rank
[16:09] <FloodBot3> fanfannothing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <babolat> crackaddict: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/howto-switch-from-ubuntu-to-kubuntu-or-xubuntu-or-edubuntu-or-vice-versa-610-edgy/
[16:09] <smallfoot-> pablo, not sure, but you can try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and 'sudo update-manager -c'
[16:09] <bazhang> !cn | fanfannothing
[16:09] <ubot3`> fanfannothing: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[16:09] <soshka> yup
[16:09] <soshka> mDemocritu : only ubuntu
[16:09] <soshka> no windows, pure linux the way it should be
[16:09] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: Other than that I try not to have important files on system disks
[16:10] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: I store those on my 1TB data drive :D
[16:10] <mDemocritus> soshka: well done :D
[16:10] <crackaddict> will that work for getting gdm working
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !cn | fanfannothing
[16:10] <ubot3`> fanfannothing: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[16:10] <mDemocritus> soshka: do you have any other computers on the network?
[16:10] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: And that rank is not worth the trouble
[16:10] <whazilla> t umount /dev/cdrom or /cdrom or /mnt/cdrom
[16:10] <soshka> no 1 pc
[16:10] <whazilla> cant umount :(
[16:10] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: So I'm just going to throw it away, thanks anyway
[16:11] <DIL> !chroot
[16:11] <ubot3`> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[16:11] <qiang> hi
[16:11] <reflous> kwtm, knetworkmanager connects pretty fast and is good and detecting connections and stuff?
[16:11] <bazhang> !cn | qiang
[16:11] <ubot3`> qiang: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[16:11] <mDemocritus> soshka: could be something with your network card, with ubuntu.... but most likely something wrong on your internet provider's end... try powercycling the modem
[16:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, alright, just keeping an eye out, because I've lost important data like that before
[16:11] <DIL> how to use chroot
[16:11] <mDemocritus> soshka: and then reboot the computer
[16:12] <cognatus> anybody familiar with v4l, video for linux?
[16:12] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: Me too, that's why I bought that 1TB drive ;)
[16:12] <soshka> mDemocritu : whats powercycling?
[16:12] <soshka> mDemocritu: i know i am a lost cause
[16:12] <babolat> DIL: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/howto-use-chroot-431293/http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/howto-use-chroot-431293/
[16:12] <bazhang> soshka, reset (off then on)
[16:12] <smallfoot-> soshka, powercycle is power off computer, then power it on again
[16:12] <mDemocritus> soshka: hah no biggie.... i work tech support, you're doing much better than some of the people
[16:12] <kwtm> reflous: I find that it works for me. It's designed for laptops moving from one wireless environment to another.  If you are disconnected, it immediately starts looking for other available connections.
[16:12] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, I've been in a situation where I've had to manually fetch the data that was accidentally deleted from a coworker's ext3 partition; it's not pretty.
[16:12] <mDemocritus> soshka: unplug the modem, wait 5-10 seconds, plug it back in
[16:13] <reflous> kwtm, ah great, sounds good I'll check it out, thanks
[16:13] <DIL> babolat: ty but page error
[16:13] <kwtm> reflous: The real program is "Networkmanager", but it can be hard to use, so
[16:13] <mDemocritus> soshka: it'll disconnect you from the net, but just log back onto freenode when you computer's restarted
[16:13] <soshka> cool ty
[16:13] <soshka> i'll be back
[16:13] <kwtm> reflous: they wrote Knetworkmanager to make it easier to use.  One caveat is that it
[16:13] <xxSimxx> where can i find the Xubuntu Dvd Iso
[16:13] <kwtm> reflous: has trouble with hidden networks; works better if the network is broadcasting its SSID (but ok to have encryption with keys)
[16:14] <bazhang> !torrents | xxSimxx
[16:14] <ubot3`> xxSimxx: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[16:14] <trident523> xxSimxx: http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[16:14] <xxSimxx> Thx
[16:14] <reflous> kwtm, ah ok, shouldn't be a problem for me
[16:14] <babolat> DIL: that's odd. im looking at the page right now... here instead -->http://paste.ubuntu.com/16193/
[16:14] <kwtm> reflous: good luck
[16:15] <DIL> babolat: ty apparently the page was listed twice in the link - many tahnks!!
[16:15] <trident523> Wait, how did I just join #ubuntu?
[16:15] <babolat> o-i-c DIL
[16:15] <pablo> smallfoot, they didnt work. The first command showed me info and the second one opened the update window http://paste.ubuntu.com/16194/
[16:15] <trident523> I was allready in it. Gah irc.
[16:16] <julio> Hi, i want to install Tapioca Or Jabbin in my ubuntu Gutsy
[16:16] <trident523> julio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tapioca
[16:16] <trident523> julio: Seems out of date.
[16:16] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: it looks like this time upgrade will go through. i think the best thing is to reboot before going to upgrade the machine, in order to clear memory from eventual garbage :)))
[16:16] <julio> trident523 It doesn't tell how to install in the Gutsy
[16:17] <etronik> should /home be setup inside a LVM or is that too risky ?
[16:17] <babolat> julio: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/tapioca-qt/0.14.1-0ubuntu2/+files/tapioca-qt_0.14.1.orig.tar.gz
[16:17] <pablo> smallfoot, i have not install anything different than all the upgrades for the 7.10 version and amsn
[16:17] <trident523> julio: As I said, seems out of date.
[16:17] <babolat> i think it's in the repos, julio.. try sudo apt-get install tapioca
[16:17] <julio> I tried, It doesn't work.
[16:18] <julio> Not even jabbin
[16:18] <babolat> julio: then that package might do it for you
[16:18] <trident523> julio: Then you'll have to compile it, I guess.
[16:18] <noobuntu> i'm now in console as root. how to switch back to regular user?
[16:18] <Infinito_> julio, try 'aptitude search tapioca'
[16:18] <ratpoison> hello! I have an old IBM laptop whose screen is out of order. If I hook it up to a display through the VGA adapter, will it work?
[16:18] <trident523> noobuntu: 'exit'
[16:18] <Sir_Fawnpug> noobuntu, exit.
[16:18] <noobuntu> thx
[16:18] <smallfoot-> ratpoison, yes maybe, try
[16:18] <bazhang> ratpoison, should do
[16:18] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, it's worth a try.
[16:18] <noobuntu> no special commands needed?
[16:19] <Sir_Fawnpug> noobuntu, nope, "exit" should be enough
[16:19] <trident523> noobuntu: nope, if you use su or sudo -s then exit takes you down one level.
[16:19] <noobuntu> it works with exit, thx people
[16:19] <alexbobp> If I type "java -version", I see that it's OpenJDK.  But I also have Sun Java installed.  How can I make the command default to Sun Java?
[16:19] <cognatus> i wish "sudo exit" woudl work
[16:19] <julio> Infinito, there are archives
[16:19] <trident523> cognatus: Why?
[16:20] <julio> babolat, How can i use this package you sent me?
[16:20] <mDemocritus> soshka: by the way, don't pm without asking in the channel first, it's considered rude by some people
[16:20] <cognatus> just to see what would happen, i guess
[16:20] <trident523> cognatus: Wouldn't you allready be root then, trying to exit a terminal as root?
[16:20] <alexbobp> cognatus: when would "sudo exit" ever be more useful than "exit"?
[16:20] <soshka> Its me
[16:20] <ImDude> can anyone give me a simple answer how to play music over smb:// directory using any player so far nothing work with amarok , VLC etc
[16:20] <soshka> its the same problem
[16:20] <cognatus> cause it would like... REALLY exit
[16:20] <cognatus> :P i dunno
[16:20] <ratpoison> second question: can mythTV interoperate with MacOSX? I'm thinking of making it a MythTV front/back end with the ability to send video through the WiFi. The other computers are Macs. Does MythTV interpoerate with Mac OSX?
[16:20] <alexbobp> cognatus: btw, the reason it doesn't work is because "sudo" creates it's own shell to execute the command in.  But exit always works!
[16:20] <babolat> julio: here -->http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[16:21] <trident523> ImDude: Why don't you browse to the directory? Or, even better... use DAAP.
[16:21] <noobuntu> i want also to now that with smb:// and playing music
[16:21] <mDemocritus> soshka: i would try it with another computer, unless your ISP will support linux, which i doubt
[16:21] <ottoshmidt> installed tuxguitar but can't launch it :(((
[16:21] <julio> Hum, thank you babolat. I'll try.
[16:21] <ottoshmidt> /usr/bin/tuxguitar: 21: /usr/local/opt/java/jre/bin/java: not found
 well I did mont the directory I can browser fine I can even add songs to amarok but it won't play
[16:21] <ImDude> what is DAAP
[16:22] <cognatus> www.acronymfinder.org
[16:22] <babolat> Direct Audio Access Protocol, ImDude
[16:22] <trident523> noobuntu, ImDude: DAAP is way more supported. It's what iTunes uses in it's sharing. There's a project called Tangerine that is a server for DAAP. I'll go look quickly.
[16:22] <cognatus> ** www.acronymfinder.com
[16:22] <nomasteryoda> there's all so ...MPD
 oh yeah that's what I am talking
[16:23] <ImDude> :)
[16:23] <bazhang> cognatus, what is that
[16:23] <nomasteryoda> as well as gnumpd
[16:23] <DIL> babolat: you da man - thank you so much googled last night and could not find such a simple solution
[16:23] <trident523> ImDude, noobuntu: Well, atleast in rhythmbox, it's an enable-able plugin. In amarok, not so much.
[16:23] <babolat> ay't DIL
[16:23] <nomasteryoda> both work well and allow music streaming
[16:23] <cognatus> it's a dictionary of acronyms
[16:24] <thermoplyae> Slart: just so you know, removing the applet seems to keep the computer from automatically joining wireless networks, though it still automatically detects and joins wired ones
[16:24] <bazhang> cognatus, dont spam the channel
[16:24] <pablo> smallfoot, are you still there?? would it help if i give you my upgrade logs?
[16:24] <thermoplyae> it's possible that the keys for the wireless networks are being stored in a gnome keyring?  i dunno
[16:24] <nomasteryoda> ottoshmidt, you have java installed?
[16:24] <thermoplyae> anyway.  now you know.  and thanks again
[16:24] <cognatus> when was i spamming bazhang
[16:25] <nomasteryoda> ottoshmidt, command would be... "whereis java" to find it
[16:25] <ratpoison> or which java
[16:25] <ottoshmidt> ok
[16:25] <bazhang> cognatus, take unrelated links to support elsewhere; next time wont be a warning
[16:25] <nomasteryoda> ya
[16:25] <babolat> bazhang: someone asked what DAAP meant.. he just gave a valid external resource
[16:25] <trident523> ImDude, noobuntu: I forgot how I got amarok to do that kind of sharing, but rhythmbox has a plugin called "DAAP music sharing." Enable that, and if the other computer is serving, it should show up shortly.
[16:25] <ottoshmidt> nomasteryoda, /usr/bin/tuxguitar: 21: /usr/local/opt/java/jre/bin/java: not found
[16:26] <ottoshmidt> sorry
[16:26] <ottoshmidt> /usr/bin/java /usr/lib/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[16:26] <ottoshmidt> is it ok
[16:26] <ottoshmidt> ?
[16:26] <nomasteryoda> ah... seems tuxguitar wants java in that folder
[16:26] <Infinito_> ottoshmidt,  try 'sudo updatedb' and try locating again
[16:26] <ratpoison> ottoshmidt, use paste.ubuntu.com for large pastes
[16:26] <cognatus> right. so when someone asks a "google it" question and someone replies "google.com", that's not spamming
[16:26] <Infinito_> oh
[16:26] <Infinito_> neverming seems you're done
[16:26] <noobuntu> trident523: thx, i found it. only now i must somehow force linux to see my windows network shares :D
[16:26] <Infinito_> *nevermind
[16:27] <ImDude> there is one a little annoying thing that I can't find the settings for it since I am here for a quick stop I may s well as for it: when I have multiple windows open the windows behind the main windows becomes transparent a little, how can I remove that transparency /opacity ??
[16:27] <trident523> noobuntu: Lucky me, I don't have any of those. :P
[16:27] <ottoshmidt> ratpoison, in web browser?
[16:27] <mDemocritus> ImDude: are you using compiz?
[16:27] <cognatus> ImDude, do you have compiz or the basic WM?
[16:27] <ratpoison> ottoshmidt, yes
[16:28] <noobuntu> trident523: i must have it, but i'm on the way to get rid of it :D
 yes
 compiz
[16:28] <cognatus> ImDude, press alt+f2 type 'ccsm'
[16:28] <mDemocritus> ImDude: should be in the compiz settings.... i think there's a transparency option
[16:28] <ratpoison> ottoshmidt, then, paste on the box, press send, and paste the address here
[16:28] <simi> hi ,i have problems with java in firefox 3 in hardy 32 bit, i habe  IcedTea, is this implementation incomplete for applets ? i need sun java or how can i fix this?
[16:28] <trident523> noobuntu: sshd is fast for transfering stuff between computers, and "just works." But only on *nx machines.
[16:28] <mohbana> how do i play a dvd which i just mounted?
[16:28] <mohbana> it was an .iso before
[16:28] <slappy> ﻿Does users-admin (in ubuntu/gnome) uses /etc/adduser.conf ? (it does'nt look like that for me!) Is there a way to change the default value of users-admin?
[16:28] <cognatus> ImDude, you'll have to fiddle a bit as tehre are many different transparency settings
[16:29] <ottoshmidt> ratpoison, ok
 I think I looked there but since I am a blind man chances are I missed
[16:29] <Armada> I'm going to reinstall Windows but that will overwrite my current mbr (GRUB) what is the best way to reinstall it once windows is installed
[16:29] <noobuntu> ImDude: go to system->preferences->advanced desktop eff sett
[16:29] <mohkohn> OK I will have another try. I have internet coming in from eth0. I want to share it though wlan0.
[16:29] <MolePrince> Armada: Back it up first with dd ;)
[16:29] <mDemocritus> ImDude: well i know it's a setting in there... i'm just not sure where... try general settings
[16:29] <ratpoison> Armada, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows use whatever one you like
[16:29] <mohkohn> My current setup is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16196/
[16:30] <mohkohn> What am I doing wrong?
[16:30] <noobuntu> ImDude: first transparency bellow general settings (second group), disable it
[16:30] <babolat> ImDude: check if you have System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effect Settings. If you do, then use the function search feature for "transparency"
[16:30] <mohbana> how do i play a dvd which i just mounted? it was previously an iso file, if i use movie player i have to manually select all the .vob files
[16:31] <nomasteryoda> mohbana, you can select a folder to play in vlc
[16:31] <mDemocritus> mohbana: some media players can play a directory...
[16:31] <nomasteryoda> or smplayer
[16:31] <mDemocritus> mohbana: kaffeine does it too
[16:31] <ratpoison> mohbana, use vlc. Then File > Open Disk (or something similar) Then choose the corect device
[16:31] <nomasteryoda> and they "realize" the folder is more or less a dvd and just play it
[16:32] <mohbana> thanks alot
[16:32] <noobuntu> trident523: the funny stuff is that i saw windows networks just before a couple of days. and since i tried to install wlan on ubuntu, i can't see it anymore
[16:32] <mohbana> got it working! vlc
[16:32] <Dasmoover> i got my problem nearly fixed
[16:32] <etronik> Guys!  shuld I use LVM or plain partitions ?? I have 2 HD in the box !
[16:32] <pablo> Hi, i have a problem upgrading to hardy. There is a version error. This is my problem  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16192/
[16:32] <Dasmoover> i just need to know how to install restricted nvidia drivers
[16:32] <Dasmoover> 8400 GS
[16:32] <cognatus> personally i say plain partitions etronik
[16:32] <mDemocritus> huh... there is LEET people in this room
[16:33] <noobuntu> ImDude: did you found it? just disable first transparency option bellow general section *general is the very first section*
[16:33] <ratpoison> Dasmoover, System > Admin > Hardware Drivers. That's what worked on my other pc
[16:33] <etronik> cognatus: care to elaborate just a tad ?
[16:33] <Dasmoover> thankd!
[16:33] <bazhang> Dasmoover, either that or envyng-gtk
[16:33] <cognatus> etronik, YMMV but i found LVMing to be considerably less useful than previosuly imagined
[16:33] <Dasmoover> sudo apt-get install?
[16:34] <bazhang> Dasmoover, aye
[16:34] <ratpoison> Dasmoover, aye, or synaptic, if you like it graphical
[16:34] <cognatus> etronik, and now i have 200GB of data that i want to de-LVM and no space to do it in
[16:34] <mDemocritus> Dasmoover: then you can make sure it's working with glxinfo | grep direct
[16:34] <mDemocritus> Dasmoover: it should say direct rendering = yes
[16:34] <Dasmoover> im not using the graphics card
[16:34] <Dasmoover> i need to install the drivers on
[16:34] <Dasmoover> im using my onboard
[16:35] <Dasmoover> is that ok?
[16:35] <pablo> Hi, i have a problem upgrading to hardy. There is a version error. This is my problem  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16192/ Does anybody know why it can happen? I havent install anything different than upgrades and amsn
[16:35] <mDemocritus> Dasmoover: nope....
[16:35] <ratpoison> Dasmoover, well, it will try to choose the appropriate drivers for you
[16:35] <bazhang> Dasmoover, nay
[16:35] <Dasmoover> i cant boot into ubuntu though with the cards
[16:35] <Taza> Would dd if=/dev/hda1 | (gzip)
[16:35] <mDemocritus> Dasmoover: disable the onboard in bios?
[16:35] <Taza> Ehh. Halfline. Ignore that.
[16:35] <Dasmoover> just do sudo apt-get install envy in the command line?
[16:36] <babolat> pablo: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/31455
[16:36] <Dasmoover> no no, i have much problems with graphics card, ubuntu wouldnt ,load
[16:36] <bazhang> Dasmoover, envyng-gtk
[16:36] <ratpoison> envyng-gtk is the packagename I think
[16:36] <Dasmoover> i will do that in command line with my card
[16:36] <Dasmoover> thanks all!
[16:36] <Taza> Would dd if=/dev/hda1 | (gzip to file) and then (gzip from file) | dd of=/dev/hda1 successfully backup and restore a NTFS partition in /dev/hda1 in case of viruses / spyware?
[16:36] <ratpoison> Dasmoover,  On my other pc, I installed the exact same card from System > Hardware Drivers without a hassle
[16:37] <Taza> Note: The image would be made when the system is clear.
[16:37] <Dasmoover> but im not using the graphics cxard io need the drivers for
[16:37] <quaal> anyone have a rec for a good laptop cd drive enclosure
[16:37] <babolat> are you still having that problem, julio?
[16:37] <bazhang> !hcl | quaal
[16:37] <ubot3`> quaal: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[16:37] <ratpoison> Dasmoover, that won't be a problem, doesn't an option for the NVIDA proprietary drivers appear there?
[16:37] <Taza> Also, what's the package for the closed source nVidia drivers?
 nope can't find those settings
[16:37] <babolat> are you still having that problem, pablo?
[16:37] <Dasmoover> yes
[16:37] <Dasmoover> enable that?
[16:38] <babolat> sorry, julio wrong nick
[16:38] <pablo> babolat, im going to try what u suggest
[16:38] <julio> babolat, ok =D
[16:38] <nomasteryoda> pablo, you should look at the log file to see what it is reporting....
[16:38] <ratpoison> Dasmoover, yes, restart and you're through
[16:38] <babolat> pablo: sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop in a terminal
[16:38] <Dasmoover> ok and use my gfx card?
[16:38] <quaal> bazhang, yea i dont see anything about enclosures there!
[16:38] <ratpoison> Dasmoover, that's what it did on my machine
[16:38] <ggeecko> is nfs good for video playback
  I am in CompizConfig
[16:38] <Dasmoover> kk! brb
[16:38] <babolat> pablo: The do-release-upgrade command defaults to server upgrade mode.
[16:39] <nomasteryoda> pablo, do what babolat says
[16:39] <Pers3ux> Hi, i have problem in compiling a module -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811382
[16:39] <noobuntu> ImDude: group Accessibility, disable Opacity
[16:39] <Pers3ux> can anybody help me?
 ok let me check
[16:39] <babolat> !ask | Pers3ux
[16:39] <ubot3`> Pers3ux: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:39] <noobuntu> ImDude: opacify, sry
[16:39] <Taza> Would dd if=/dev/hda1 | (gzip to file) and then (gzip from file) | dd of=/dev/hda1 successfully backup and restore a NTFS partition in /dev/hda1 in case of viruses / spyware?
[16:40] <pablo> do-release-upgrade: error: -m option requires an argument
[16:41] <Pers3ux> babolat: ok man :(
[16:41] <babolat> pablo: "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop" without the quotes
 opacity options were disabled, but I still get transparent window
[16:41] <amenado> Taza  dd is bit for bit disk dump
[16:41] <mDemocritus> Taza i would imagine so... dd works on raw data, so it should work
[16:41] <Taza> mDemocritus: What about partition size?
[16:41] <noobuntu> ImDude: give me a moment to look at it
 thanks
[16:42] <mDemocritus> well, it would do the entire partition
[16:42] <Taza> mDemocritus: Lemme guess, the partitions should be exactly the same size if restoring. Or will dd write safely on a larger partition?
[16:42] <mDemocritus> Taza: error on the side of caution... same partition size
[16:42] <pablo> babolat,  sorry the same error
[16:42] <leetbumble> Hello all. Was wondering if anyone had BlueRay discs working in their comp. I havent set out on it yet and the web has mixed results. is it worth the hassle?
[16:43] <pablo> babolat, i will copy the log in teh web so u can c it
[16:43] <mohkohn> If my Vista Client can see my Ubuntu access point and the signal is strong, and it connects is the problem ...
[16:43] <mDemocritus> Taza: i don't have much xp with dd tho.... google the hell out of that before you write it
[16:43] <Taza> mDemocritus: Yeah, I was thinking that too. That however means I need to do the partitioning with the windows installer if I do...
[16:43] <mohkohn> how I configured the host?
[16:43] <mohkohn> client I mean!
[16:43] <mDemocritus> Taza you should be able to partition it with fdisk... just make sure the type of the partition is correct
[16:43] <Taza> mDemocritus: I'm thinking of just dd'ing the windows xp partition to the linux partition and then restoring WHEN windows gets chockfull of malware again
[16:44] <Taza> Because oh-so-rare types of malware can infect a linux install from windows and then corrupt a disk image.
[16:44] <noobuntu> ImDude: perhaps i got wrong what is bothering you, tell me again your problem plz
[16:44] <mDemocritus> Taza: or just don't use windows for web surfing....
[16:44] <mDemocritus> Taza: or anything for that matter :D
[16:44] <Taza> mDemocritus: Not an option. Bro.
[16:44] <Taza> mDemocritus: He's strictly against booting to a different OS for gaming.
[16:44] <pablo> babolot, here is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/16197/
[16:45] <babolat> pablo: you can type the first few letters of a nick and then press TAB to auto complete nicknames
[16:45] <noobuntu> ImDude: perhaps i got wrong what is bothering you, tell me again your problem plz
[16:45] <mDemocritus> babolat: that's awesome i never knew that trick
[16:46] <pablo> babolat: thx
[16:46] <ratpoison> mDemocritus, works for directory names on the command line too
[16:46] <mDemocritus> Taza: psh that's his problem :D
[16:46] <babolat> pablo: "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop" ... what you did was "sudo do-release-upgrade -m"
 here is a thing: if I get multiple windows opened the other windows behind the top one are transparent, the top layer is ok, just the behind layers, so I'd like to disable that transparency
[16:46] <mDemocritus> ratpoison: i know that... i just never imagined tabbed completion would be useful outside of a CLI
[16:47] <ratpoison> mDemocritus, it is, it also works on matlab, if you're using that
[16:47] <netboy> hello
[16:47] <pablo> babolat: check line number 5 pls
[16:47] <noobuntu> ImDude: so, only the top window is not transparent?
[16:47] <netboy> how to install wine in ubuntu linux ????
[16:47] <babolat> pablo: easy way to paste to the terminal is to highlight copy a text then, with the cursor in the terminal active, press Ctrl-Shift-V
[16:48] <Dasmoover> nope i still have the same error wit hmy graphics card im using onboard
[16:48] <Starnestommy> netboy: sudo apt-get install wine
[16:48] <mohkohn> On a second issue how do I remove a firefox extension that comes back after every time I uninstall it?
[16:48] <Lynet>  netboy: You install it just like any other program.
 correct
[16:48] <netboy> then what should i do to install mirc.exe
[16:48] <dury> hi there channel :)
[16:48] <babolat> pablo: do you have all the updates for your current install?
[16:48] <mDemocritus> Taza: that idea could mess up the games.... registry values and all
 but I also like the fact that I can use alt and mouse2 (scroll) to make any windows transparent
[16:48] <noobuntu> ImDude: press super+P ... if this is not your solution, press it again to go back
[16:49] <Starnestommy> netboy: wine /path/to/mirc.exe, or double-click on mirc.exe in the file browser
[16:49] <pablo> babolat: yes, i have download all the updates and amsn, but nothing else
[16:49] <timmyd> are there alternative apt sources for gnash cvs versions?
[16:49] <Lynet> netboy: ..run the installer perhaps?
[16:49] <netboy> After this operation, 55.1MB of additional disk space will be used.
[16:49] <netboy> Really wine is 55mb ??
[16:49] <ratpoison> pablo, or highlight with mouse and middle click (it will only paste the currently highlighted text though) if you like mouse better
[16:49] <Taza> mDemocritus: It's still easier than reinstalling everything every time he gets a virus
[16:49] <mDemocritus> netboy: well, it's a full emulator for windows, so that makes sense
[16:50] <netboy> the mirc will work right?
[16:50] <Dasmoover> can anyone pm and help me out
[16:50] <mDemocritus> Taza: i suppose....
[16:50] <netboy> so i can add remote ??
[16:50] <pablo> ratpoison: im using right click, but its ok
[16:50] <Blizzara> Wine Is Not an Emulator
[16:50] <babolat> pablo: in Software Sources, do you have the pre-release and unsupported updates checked/enabled?
[16:50] <dury> how do I change root's psswd?
[16:50] <Myrtti> dury you don't
 the thing is that as soon as I scroll over t  behind window the transparency disapears right away
[16:50] <Starnestommy> !noroot | dury
[16:50] <ubot3`> dury: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[16:50] <Myrtti> !root | dury
[16:50] <ubot3`> dury: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:51] <Scott_Bernard> hi
[16:51] <Starnestommy> netboy: mirc does work in wine
[16:51] <Chad2408m> Hi, how do you change the default (startup) resolution, mine is too high and the screen scrolls.  Is there any file you can edit?
[16:51] <pablo> babolat: yes, i just find out that i have pre-release
[16:51] <netboy> ok thank you everyone
[16:51] <pablo> babolat: i am new at this
[16:51] <babolat> pablo, disable it then try again
[16:51] <noobuntu> ImDude: well, i get this soon as i enable Opacify ... if it is disabled, we must search through all opacity settings
[16:52] <pablo> babolat: should i press revert?
[16:52] <babolat> yes, pablo
[16:52] <dury> ok how do I change sudo (root) psswd?
[16:52] <Starnestommy> dury: sudo ius your user's password
[16:52] <cognatus> in ubuntu it's better not to
[16:52] <Starnestommy> *is
[16:52] <babolat> there is NO ROOT PASSWORD dury
[16:52] <Scott_Bernard> must i change windows to linux? what have linux that windows doesn't?
[16:52] <Blizzara> dury, why do you want to change it?
[16:53] <bazhang> dury do not go down that path
[16:53] <netboy> type passwd on terminal and change it
 I am digging I am also pretty sure its somewhere in the compiz settings its just there are so many settings sometimes its hard to find things right away
[16:53] <netboy> Scott_Bernard linux is totally FREE
[16:53] <Myrtti> Scott_Bernard: are you into software development?
[16:53] <noobuntu> ImDude: what settings do you have in General Options *double click on it to see it*
[16:54] <bazhang> !lnw | Scott_Bernard
[16:54] <ubot3`> Scott_Bernard: Want to know the differences between Windows and Linux? This guide, called "Linux is Not Windows" is a pretty good read -- http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[16:54] <babolat> Scott_Bernard: http://linuxlab.dk/ten-reasons
[16:54] <Scott_Bernard> no i don't develop soft
[16:54] <babolat> pablo: how's it going?
[16:55] <dury> just want to change the pàsswd in ubuntu, I guess it's possible, isn't it?
[16:55] <pablo> babolat: it seems to be working
[16:55] <lordnoid> hi, i need a package of the lastest version of the mac codes (monkeys audio)
[16:55] <KRF> !root | dury
[16:55] <ubot3`> dury: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:55] <lordnoid> does anyone know where to get it?
[16:55] <babolat> ok, pablo. congrats
General | Commands | Desktop Size | Display Settings | Focus & Raise | Key Binding | Opacity Settings
[16:55] <Armada> I'm trying to install Windows XP, but XP doesn't support more than 3 partitions on one drive
[16:55] <Armada> at least, not on install
[16:55] <babolat> dury, change YOUR account's password in System > Admin > Users and Groups
[16:56] <noobuntu> ImDude: did you look at Opacity settings? anything that points to your problem?
[16:56] <pablo> babolat: its the same to use the command you give me than the upgrade manager window?
[16:56] <Armada> how can I make a ntfs partition in ubutnu so I can install windows XP?
[16:56] <Armada> *ubuntu
[16:56] <babolat> basically, pablo. But it would have given you that same error
[16:57] <Armada> nevermind
[16:57] <Armada> the live CD can make a ntfs partition
[16:57] <jarosser87> Armada: your trying to install xp on a machine with ubuntu already there
[16:57] <jarosser87> ?
[16:57] <Armada> yes
[16:57] <Armada> reinstall to be percise
 yeah I checked
[16:57] <ImDude> nothing
[16:57] <jarosser87> are you going to reinstall ubuntu also
[16:58] <babolat> Armada: to make a linux partition while in your Ubuntu environment, you may consider gparted
[16:58] <babolat> Armada: you what???
[16:58] <Armada> no, but I am going to reinstall grub
[16:58] <mohkohn> Is there a way to do internet sharing with DHCP insead of using static IP's?
[16:58] <jarosser87> ok
[16:58] <babolat> Armada: oh, grub
[16:58] <pablo> babolat: Thanks now is working, u r the master!!!!
[16:58] <Chad2408m> Please someone help me, how do you change the default (startup) resolution, mine is too high and the screen scrolls when you move the mouse to the edge of the screen.
[16:58] <babolat> !grub | Armada
[16:58] <ubot3`> Armada: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:58] <fiuza_> how i use the anjunta guys?
[16:58] <Armada> babolat, I know how
[16:58] <babolat> pablo: no i'm not.. ive been using ubuntu (linux in general) for a month
[16:59] <Armada> babolat, I just had problems with installing XP because of the ammount of partitions
[16:59] <flyinggreg> hey folks - I got a networking issue with 8.04
[16:59] <babolat> Armada: oh.. then my mistake
[16:59] <babolat> ;)
[16:59] <Chad2408m> Will  someone please help me
[17:00] <babolat> !ask | Chad2408m
[17:00] <ubot3`> Chad2408m: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:00] <Lynet> mohkohn: That should work fine, what problem do you have with setting it up?
[17:00] <Chad2408m> how do you change the default (startup) resolution, mine is too high and the screen scrolls when you move the mouse to the edge of the screen.
[17:00] <eyes`only> every time a new dist-upgrade comes out, my OS creates two new kernels, one i386 the other 'generic'. The i386 never works, it doesn't have vid drivers nor wireless drivers... I've gone into menu.lst and commented out the i386 version but how do i stop this behavior?
[17:00] <mohkohn> Lynet, are we talking about my pastebin?
[17:00] <babolat> Chad2408m: have you tried System > Pref > Screen Resolution ?
[17:01] <netboy> where can i ask about external hdd and USB ????
[17:01] <jarosser87> wat about an external hdd
[17:01] <netboy> my external not detect in front usb but work fine on back usb
[17:01] <jarosser87> and usb
[17:01] <netboy> i mean cpu's usb
[17:02] <netboy> back and front
[17:02] <flyinggreg> I am a newb running 8.04 and win2k on a dual boot system.
[17:02] <flyinggreg> I ran an update and lost my networking capability both wired and wireless.  I checked my interfaces and it looks ok - is there anywhere else I need to look?  BTW, my win2k networking is ok
[17:02] <babolat> netboy: that sounds like a mobo issue
[17:02] <mohkohn> Lynet, essential I am trying to do this with Ubuntu: http://www.macinstruct.com/node/118
[17:02] <netboy> how to setting a mobo?
[17:02] <Chad2408m> babolat: yes, but whenever I restart it gets reset back to 1400x1050.
[17:02] <babolat> netboy: mobo = motherboard..
[17:02] <mohkohn> I have an iMac. It takes me a couple of clicks in OSX and XP
[17:03] <eyes`only> flyinggreg: that sounds much like what happened to me... what actually happened was that two upgrades were created in menu.lst, commenting the wrong one out fixed it
[17:03] <netboy> oh i see
[17:03] <netboy> before this it work fine on front usb
[17:03] <dimas869> does anyone know how to fix this error message?...everything it get stoke terminal, synaptic, etc....Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' : error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[17:03] <Lynet> mohkohn: Ah, didn't see that one. Let's see..
[17:04] <noobuntu> ImDude: you didn't told me what happens if you press super+P (or you did and i forgot it? :P)
[17:04] <babolat> Chad2408m: see if this helps -->http://www.namanb.com/2007/11/ubuntu-710-bootup-resolution-problem.html
[17:04] <eyes`only> grr this client sucks.. whats a better client for irc than xchat? Something more like mIRC...
[17:04] <Lynet> mohkohn: Why do you have a gateway setting on wlan0?
[17:04] <flyinggreg> eyes`only, are talking kernel update or system upgrade?
[17:04] <babolat> xChat eyes`only
[17:04] <mDemocritus> eyes`only: pidgin's pretty good for irc....
[17:05] <mohkohn> I have been floowing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[17:05] <mDemocritus> eyes`only: but i don't think it's like mIRC
[17:05] <mohkohn> Networking is new to me.
[17:05] <jasiek_> hi some ony can help me ? i have a problem with APT
[17:05] <eyes`only> flyinggreg umm i guess kernel update, it went from 2.6.24-16 to 2.6.24-17
[17:05] <babolat> !ask | jasiek_
[17:05] <ubot3`> jasiek_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:06] <mohkohn> Basiclly the cable is my eth0 and I want to share through wireless occassionally.
[17:06] <ubud> is there a control centre like in kde for gnome?
[17:06] <eyes`only> mDemocritus: really? I'll give it try but I can't believe an IM client could be a good IRC client :O
[17:06] <Dasmoover> im having trouble installing restricted drivers for nvidia can anyone help me?  http://pastebin.com/m3b447043 - is hat happens when i type glxinfo
[17:06] <flyinggreg> eyes`only: ok, i need to check that - i just ran the update manager and that's when I lost it...after reboot.  how'd you fix it?
[17:06] <Kuwanger> How do I setup a dvd-rom drive to automount?
[17:06] <Lynet> mohkohn: Just gimme a sec to read through it first.
[17:06] <mDemocritus> eyes`only: try it... i dunno what you're looking for, but i like it.... granted it's also my jabber client.....
[17:07] <babolat> edit fstab, Kuwanger
[17:07] <dimas869> any suggestion to fix this:Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' : error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[17:07] <mohkohn> The thing is Vista and my Ubuntu laptop both see the access point and claim they can join to it.
[17:07] <babolat> !fstab | Kuwanger
[17:07] <ubot3`> Kuwanger: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[17:07] <ubud> !control panel
[17:07] <ubot3`> Factoid control panel not found
[17:07] <mohkohn> Signal is good.
[17:07] <noobuntu> ImDude: under section effects, TrailFocus ... there is a solution to your problem. change values to your need or disable Trail Focus
[17:07] <eyes`only> flyinggreg: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out the first option
[17:07] <mohkohn> Excellent even!
[17:07] <Kuwanger> babolat: Edit it in what way?
[17:08] <babolat> Kuwanger: you need to add a line to that file.. see the link that ubot3 gave you ^
[17:08] <legend2440> eyes`only: if you uninstall linux-image-2.6.24-16-386 it won't update so it won't rewrite the menu.lst
[17:08] <flyinggreg> eyes`only:  so this is a kernel issue?
[17:08] <dimas869> eyes`only would you help me?
[17:08] <eyes`only> dimas: never had issues with my dpkg, sorry
[17:09] <flyinggreg> eyes`only:  i had the same issue with 7.10 also
[17:09] <Lynet> mohkohn: Could you pastebin me your 'route -n'?
[17:09] <Rodderrick> anyone tell me how i copy and paste from this window ..there dosnt seem to be that option when i right click over it ??
[17:09] <Dasmoover> anyone?
[17:09] <Chad2408m> babolat: thanks, but that wasnt what I needed.  The screen resolution on the desktop itself is too high, and I have to go to screen res and chang it manually everytime. is there someway to have this be done automaticly
[17:09] <jarosser87> ctrl-c
[17:09] <jarosser87> to copy
[17:09] <MattJ> Rodderrick: It is copied automatically
[17:09] <Rodderrick> thanks
[17:10] <MattJ> Rodderrick: Just select the text
[17:10] <dimas869> eyes`only what it could be?...any little small idea how to get there?
[17:10] <Rodderrick> i selected the text ...but no copy facility
[17:10] <eyes`only> flyinggreg: if yours is like mine,you have two boot options-- one 'i386' the other 'generic'
[17:10] <mohkohn> Lynet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16204/
[17:10] <Dasmoover> anyone help me?
[17:10] <jarosser87> Rodederrick:ctrl-c to copy
[17:10] <eyes`only> dimas: boot from the ubuntu cd and choose repair
[17:10] <MattJ> Rodderrick: As I said, select the text, it is copied *automatically* :) (I am assuming you are using XChat)
[17:10] <netboy> running wine make my pc going slow
[17:10] <netboy> why?
[17:11] <Rodderrick> yes
[17:11] <Starnestommy> netboy: because wine has to emulate many parts of windows
[17:11] <flyinggreg> eyes`only: thanks, i'll have to boot into it and check it out
[17:11] <eyes`only> legend2440: how do I uninstall that kernel?
[17:11] <babolat> Chad2408m: looks like you have to edit corg.conf
[17:11] <Lynet> mohkohn: Delete the "gateway 129.168.0.1" line, change "address 129.168.0.2" to 192.168.0.1
[17:11] <babolat> Chad2408m: do you need a walkthrough?
[17:11] <eyes`only> flyinggreg: yeah, to test-- hit esc during boot and when you get your list of kernels see if there's two per kernel version
[17:12] <josspyker> mohkohn: trying to share internet?
[17:12] <Chad2408m> where is corg.conf? and probably :)
[17:12] <dimas869> eyes`only may i chose repair from hard drive?
[17:12] <Rodderrick> gottcha ...thanks folks
[17:12] <Uplink> fde, where can i put my custom sounds?
[17:12] <babolat> Chad2408m: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:12] <legend2440> dimas869: are there any files in /var/lib/dpkg/updates?
[17:12] <dimas869> eyes`only i have like three years with ubuntu
[17:12] <eyes`only> dimas869: not sure, just found a forum post that said 'You seem to have uninstalled dpkg somehow (as well as some other core packages), which is the program that installs packages. I think you may have to repair the installation from an install CD at this point, unless you're up to manually compiling dpkg.'
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[17:13] <Dasmoover> ﻿im having trouble installing restricted drivers for nvidia can anyone help me?  http://pastebin.com/m3b447043 - is hat happens when i type glxinfo can anyn help me?
[17:13] <mohkohn> josspyker, yes. the mac way but Ubuntu style: http://www.macinstruct.com/node/118
[17:13] <Lanlost> Hey.. Firefox 3 came installed by default right?
[17:13] <babolat> Chad2408m: pastebin the file's contents will you?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> is it possible to have the terminal show *s when I type my passowrd to authorise gksudo / sudo commands
[17:13] <[LMJ]> hi
[17:14] <eyes`only> dimas869: I only have a year, but I'm just naturally good with this stuff... It helps that I know c++, I'm the developer of the windows app 'DoItFast4U!'
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> hi [LMJ]
[17:14] <mohkohn> thanks Lynet I will give it a go
[17:14] <Lanlost> I installed the firefox 2 package also and now everytime I run firefox, firefox-2 or firefox-3.0.. it says I'm running firefox 2 (the about page). Even with a browser detection page like http://www.quirksmode.org/js/detect.html
[17:14] <legend2440> eyes`only: in synaptic find linux-image-2.6.24-16-386 right click mark for complete removal
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> !hi | [LMJ]
[17:14] <ubot3`> [LMJ]: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:14] <[LMJ]> hello ActionParsnip ;)
[17:14] <Lanlost> There is even a firefox-3.0 binary in /usr/bin
[17:14] <eyes`only> legend2440: going there right now!
[17:14] <MattJ> ActionParsnip: I believe it isn't, since this would allow someone to see how long your password is
[17:14] <haris1> can some one let me know how to install mouse theme which i have downloaded?
[17:14] <Chad2408m> babolat: I opened it, and under 'display' it says Depth 24, and Virtual 1400 1050.  Should i change these values?
[17:15] <josspyker> mohkohn: what is the problem?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> MattJ: is it not enableable?
[17:15] <Lanlost> eyes`only, the demuxer
[17:15] <Lanlost> ?
[17:15] <babolat> Chad2408m: change depth to 16, then virtual to 1280x760 or whatever's right for you
[17:15] <eyes`only> Lanlost: yep :)
[17:15] <ferronica> any CPU temprature monitor application for ubuntu 8.04(simple one which give me exact reading)
[17:15] <Dasmoover> ﻿﻿im having trouble installing restricted drivers for nvidia can anyone help me?  http://pastebin.com/m3b447043 - is hat happens when i type glxinfo can anyn help me?
[17:15] <eyes`only> lanlost: the core of the vid warez scene for quite a while. hehe
[17:15] <Chad2408m> babolat: okay, but my depth is usually 24, should I change that too?
[17:16] <Lanlost> for good quality releases at least..
[17:16] <MattJ> ActionParsnip: not that I know
[17:16] <eyes`only> exactly!
[17:16] <patan> hi everybody
[17:16] <ferronica> CPU Dual core 2180..
[17:16] <Kuwanger> babolat: Okay, I added the line to fstab.  Now what?
[17:16] <babolat> Chad2408m: so keep depth at 24.. change it later if you still have an issue
[17:16] <wallacy> any1 got the install of catalyst 8.5 working fine . . .
[17:16] <eyes`only> but i gave up the source to the guy that did scenaid
[17:16] <[LMJ]> I'm following this basic C/C++ tut : http://aelinik.free.fr/c/ch02.htm and I have to compile my first "hello world" : gcc mycode.c and  #include <stdio.h> is not know by GCC, what i'm missing on my system ? (dpkg-dev already installed with make, gcc and so on)
[17:16] <mohkohn> josspyker, not sure but I need to try Lynet 's solution. back in a tic
[17:16] <eyes`only> and he didnt do much with it
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> MattJ: bah, just my keyboard is a bit hit n miss, so id love to see if my input has been successful
[17:17] <Lanlost> I find myself wanting to code programs like that all the time. I used to want to design a great gui for the program so that anyone could use it. But then testing programs on my mom.. it just doesn't seem to matter how well I do it haha
[17:17] <haris1> can some one let me know how to install mouse theme which i have downloaded?
[17:17] <dimas869> eyes`only would you help go throw this manually?
[17:17] <Chad2408m> babolat: Thank you very much!
[17:17] <babolat> Kuwanger: adding the device to fstab meant you want to automount upon startup correct? then that means you need to powercycle
[17:17] <jarosser87> Dasmoover: it says it cannot find glx visual. have you searched synaptic for glx
[17:17] <ferronica> family(6) model(15) stepping(13) ,Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2180  @ 2.00GHz
[17:17] <Dasmoover> no
[17:17] <eyes`only> dimas869: I seriously don't know how!
[17:17] <jarosser87> when i did a search i found nvidia-glx
[17:17] <Kuwanger> babolat: Uh, no.  I want it to automount when I put in a dvd/cd.
[17:17] <jarosser87> along with a couple
[17:17] <jarosser87> others
[17:17] <babolat> you need to restart, Kuwanger
[17:17] <Lanlost> jarosser87, what are you trying to do?
[17:17] <eyes`only> dimas869: but here's something I just found... if you go to system>administration>synaptic, you can search for dpkg and uninstall/reinstall it
[17:17] <Lanlost> I've had some pains with nvidia-glx
[17:17] <jarosser87> huh
[17:18] <Kuwanger> babolat: Why would I need to restart?
[17:18] <jrib> [LMJ]: have you installed build-essential?
[17:18] <ferronica> any CPU temprature monitor application for ubuntu 8.04(simple one which give me exact reading)
[17:18] <jarosser87> oh sorry i was talking to DASMOOVER
[17:18] <Uplink> where can i put my custom sounds?
[17:18] <[LMJ]> let me check jrib
[17:18] <ferronica> jrib: hi
[17:18] <Dasmoover> jarosser, pls check pm
[17:18] <jrib> hey ferronica
[17:18] <ferronica> jrib: do you know?
[17:18] <ferronica> jrib: CPU temprature monitor application for ubuntu 8.04(simple one which give me exact reading)
[17:18] <dimas869> eyes`only synaptic gets stock with the error too
[17:18] <babolat> Kuwanger: *sigh* because for automount_upon_bootup means you need to actually boot up.. to do that, you need to turn off your computer and actually boot up
[17:18] <eyes`only> eww
[17:18] <Lanlost> ah ok... I didn't see their message
[17:18] <ferronica> jrib: family(6) model(15) stepping(13) ,Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2180  @ 2.00GHz
[17:19] <[LMJ]> no jrib : i'm on my way, sound the good way
 thanks man that was it, sorry it took awhile to respond , I got a phone call
[17:19] <MattJ> ActionParsnip: http://www.gratisoft.us/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=286
[17:19] <haris1> can some one let me know how to install mouse theme?
[17:19] <ubot3`> www.gratisoft.us bug 286 in Sudo "Give some visible feedback when typing the password" [Low,New]
[17:19] <Kuwanger> babolat: I don't want to automount_upon_bootup.  I want to automount_upon_cd_insertion.
[17:19] <dimas869> eyes`only let me try anyways
[17:19] <jrib> !sensors > ferronica (read the private message from ubottu)
[17:19] <ferronica> jrib: ok
[17:19] <noobuntu> ImDude: np, main thing you solve it. i'm glad i could help
[17:19] <STSX> babolat: Kuwanger could test his new fstab with a simple "sudo mount -a" instead of rebooting...
[17:20] <Kuwanger> STSX: Of course that works.  That's manually mounting.
[17:20] <eyes`only> dimas869: how about 'aptitude' at a terminal
 I spent so much time before and I just coudn't find the right spot
[17:20] <babolat> Kuwanger: check this instead -->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292995
[17:20] <wallacy> any1 can help me?
[17:20] <ImDude> noobuntu: thanks again
[17:21] <Lanlost> so.. firefox doesn't seem to have java enabled but I checked the synaptic package manager and the sun distro of it is installed. Do I just need a plugin? I also installed openjdk.. Which is better? When I ran sudo update-alternatives --config java it had a star by the OpenJDK one
[17:21] <STSX> Kuwanger: Actually that doesn't always work if your fstab is not correct.
[17:21] <Lanlost> probably because I installed it second.. it was probably already set to default
[17:21] <Kuwanger> STSX: Well, yea.  But the issue wasn't whether I could manually mount it or not or diagnose altering fstab to mount that way.
[17:22] <dimas869> any application gets stock with the error
[17:22] <Kuwanger> STSX: The issue was how to get auto-mounting to work so I wouldn't have to manually mount/unmount all the time for my dvd-rom drive. :/
[17:22] <babolat> Kuwanger: could you paste your fstab?
[17:22] <haris1> how can i install mouse theme downloaded?
[17:23] <mohkohn> Lynet, it worked! Thank you. I will give you a virtual beer. A real one if you ever come to Cambodia!
[17:23] <STSX> Kuwanger: OK, I understand your point now.
[17:23] <dimas869> what about just fixing what it says here?...Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' : error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[17:23] <eyes`only> Lanlost: if you want to try the manual method which doesnt look too hard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55370
[17:23] <derspankster> Still unable to install nvidia-glx-new and get a screen - 2 days now, fresh install, geforce 6600
[17:23] <wallacy> any1 is reading me...
[17:23] <jrib> [LMJ]: also, I'm pretty sure the standard requires you to use "int main", not just "main" (though it will work), so you may want to head over to ##c and ask their opinion of that tut and maybe they can offer some better ones
[17:23] <eyes`only> any way to turn off the joins and parts in xchat?
[17:23] <Chipsa964> Every once in a while, my sound stops working and I need to restart to get it to work again.  Can anyone help?
[17:24] <D3RGPS31> Misc Question - using windows my IP would always stay the same, i didn't have to set it to static it was just like that. using ubuntu/other linux my IP changes every time i startup. How can I change that?
[17:24] <legend2440> eyes`only: here are the xchat /set commands and what they do http://xchat-win32.berlios.de/setvars.html
[17:24] <RadarG> hello everyone I'm using xbuntu and its not seeing my ISA NIC. I have DSL linux on it right now and it say the NIC just fine. I'm using the latest live CD and it cant see it. I would really like to get the NIC working so I can switch to xubuntu
[17:25] <josspyker> D3RGPS31: assign a static ip adres to the nic
[17:25] <ezzieyguywuf> I have a custom suspend script that I want to use. I checked the gnome-power-manager website, and in the faq it says that custom scripts should be put in "/prefix/share/hal/scripts/system/hal-system-power-" but this directory doesn't seem to exist on my system, all the way down to /prefix. any help?
[17:25] <derspankster> D3RGPS31, I assume you're behind a router?
[17:25] <eyes`only> legend2440: thanks! i was looking in the menus and they're very limited
[17:25] <D3RGPS31> josepyker: i've tried that, it fails after i reboot
[17:25] <D3RGPS31> darspankster: yes
[17:25] <haris1>  how can i change mouse theme..........?
[17:26] <derspankster> D3RGPS31, Like was said, assign a static address OUTSIDE the range of your routers DHCP
[17:26] <RadarG> any ideas?
[17:26] <legend2440> eyes`only: looks like it the irc_conf_mode that needs to be turned off
[17:26] <freeborn> ﻿/msg ubottu etiquette
[17:26] <D3RGPS31> derspankster: how would i find the range?
[17:26] <derspankster> D3RGPS31, something like 192.168.1.230
[17:27] <harushimo> hello everyone, I just got the CD for ubuntu from canonical
[17:27] <Kuwanger> babolat: http://pastebin.ca/1035996
[17:27] <RadarG> I'm using xubuntu version 8.04
[17:27] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: I think maybe you're looking for: /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux
[17:27] <Lanlost> thanks eyes`only.. I figured that I just needed to do the firefox side of the installation.. They are right.. why isn't there a GUI install for this for linux? This would be such a pain for an average windows user
[17:27] <harushimo> i'm still getting an buffer i/o error
[17:27] <D3RGPS31> derspankster: my internal IP is the same as external 72.224.xxx.xxx, so i should follow around the lines you say?
[17:27] <harushimo> how do I fix that
[17:27] <haris1>  how can i change mouse theme in ubuntu 8.04......../
[17:27] <Lanlost> my questions more about which is better.. the sun jdk or openjdk.. but I found out that openjdk is by sun anyway.. so.. I'll figure it out the old fashioned way
[17:27] <RadarG> for some reason the NIC isnt working using the livecd
[17:28] <derspankster> D3RGPS31, your IP is assigned by your router
[17:28] <eyes`only> Lanlost: yeah I couldn't tell you that... i wish there was just one standard!
[17:28] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: yea that helps thanks. so by /prefix do they mean /usr? also, do i just replaye hal-system-power-suspend-linux with my custom script?
[17:28] <legend2440> eyes`only: actually it need to be set to 1 for on to hide join part msgs
[17:28] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: What is the URL of the gnome-power-manager website? I'm just curious.
[17:28] <babolat> Kuwanger: upon startup, without inserting a CD, do you see your CD/DVD drive in "Computer" or /media ?
[17:28] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-power-manager/index.html that is the main page
[17:28] <ununtuulover> :-*
[17:29] <freeborn> does anyone know what causes the live cd when booting to attach to the xsession?  I am trying to create a custom liveCD but used the server as a base...  and installed gnome-core on top of it.  However when I boot the live CD in KVM it does not switch the the xsession but only a console.  In comparision the default ubuntu iso does connect to the xserver when booting in a kvm session
[17:29] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: i found the answer to my question in the FAQ
[17:29] <eyes`only> Lanlost: /set irc_conf_mode=1 gives 'no such variable'
[17:29] <Kuwanger> babolat: Nope.
[17:29] <D3RGPS31> derspanker: yes, but i can't change 72.224.xxx.xxx, the range in the xxxs are from 1 to 255 so i don't think i'd beable to go outste that range
[17:29] <Kuwanger> babolat: I should note, I'm not running gnome.
[17:29] <eyes`only> err that was to legend2440 :-\
[17:30] <babolat> Kuwanger: then I strongly suggest you restart.
[17:30] <actionshrimp> hi, how do you find out what hw:x,x a certain card is?
[17:30] <Kuwanger> babolat: I still don't get your obsession with restarting.
[17:30] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: I guess all you would need to do is replace that script. Have you tested your script successfully? and just out of curiosity--where did you get it?
[17:30] <suRs> how do i take screen shot?
[17:30] <ggeecko> I keep getting overflow in spectral RLE ignoring playing mplayer
[17:31] <eyes`only> legend2440: ok i figured it out.. the /set command needs no '=' sign
[17:31] <babolat> Kuwanger: just trying to help. i need to go, and i am telling you that you *might* solve your problem with a restart.. would it be that hard?
[17:31] <warmfreeze> ugh
[17:31] <eyes`only> grr still getting quits and joins! lol
[17:31] <legend2440> eyes`only: might need to restart xchat for it to kick in
[17:32] <warmfreeze> can someone help me get my resolution over 800x600 O_o
[17:32] <Kuwanger> babolat: How might it solve my problem?
[17:32] <grobda24> suRs ... alt - print screen
[17:32] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: yes my script runs great. All it does is a) replace compiz with metacity. b) call /usr/sbin/pm-suspend c) replace metacity with compiz :-) actuall, i had to sleep the computer after replacing compiz with metacity because it wasn't giving the comp enough time to make the change before replacing. It works great for suspending with ATI graphic and compiz. i made it myself (my first script!)
[17:32] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: would you like to see the script? its quite short
[17:33] <eyes`only> legend2440: i refuse to restart an irc app for such a simple setting :P
[17:33] <jasiek_> hi
[17:33] <STSX> actionshrimp: I think that info is in /proc/asound/modules
[17:33] <babolat> again, Kuwanger... when adding a device to fstab, that means you want that device to be mounted when you STARTUP.. right after saving fstab after adding that file, no STARTUP is executed is there? and how do you execute a STARTUP? by turning off your computer then turning it on again.
[17:33] <jasiek_> hi i have a problem with apt someone can help me ?
[17:33] <warmfreeze> anyone for the res issue?
[17:33] <babolat> jasiek_: we dont see a question
[17:33] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: Sure, it sounds interesting--can you pastebin it please?
[17:34] <Kuwanger> babolat: No, I don't.  If no media is inserted, there's nothing to mount and it'll fail.  If some media *is* in the drive, it will automount.  But, then, I can't press eject to unmount.
[17:34] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16209/
[17:34] <flying_greg> eyes'only: I checked out my menu.lst and it looks ok
[17:34] <STSX> babolat: That isn't entirely true--you can test fstab by doing a "sudo umount -a" and it will mount everything in fstab.
[17:34] <Kuwanger> babolat: Beyond that, 99% of the time, the dvd-rom drive won't even be connected at startup.
[17:34] <jasiek_> when i try to install something apt wants to install kdebase-workspace-libs4+5
[17:35] <remu> hey everyone, I've just installed screenlets for the first time. I have a few screenlets that I'd like to keep on the desktop, and not allow them to be minimizable, even when I click the show desktop button, is this possible? I've tried a number of google searches, and none of the solutions seem to work out, I was hoping that the "Window Rules" plugin in compiz might do the trick, but unfortunately that was a no go...any ideas?
[17:35] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx : i'm kind of hesitant to replace the whole hal-system-power-suspend-linux script with my custom one, namely because there are a lot of things i'm removing that i'm not sure what they do.
[17:35] <Chipsa964> Every once in a while, my sound stops working and I need to restart to get it to work again.  Can anyone help?
[17:35] <babolat> Kuwanger: it's your problem not mine.. mine is an advice :)
[17:35] <warmfreeze> Can someone please help me with a hardware issue ?
[17:35] <Kuwanger> babolat: Granted, it's my problem.  I'm just trying to get advice more than the "kick it, maybe it'll work" variety. :)
[17:36] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: But you have nothing to worry about if you just simply rename the existing one and replace it with yours. You can always change it back, right? :)
[17:36] <eyes`only> flying_greg: well that sucks...
[17:36] <ezzieyguywuf> stss: good point
[17:36] <eyes`only> legend2440: ok you win, i'm restarting :P
[17:36] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: plus, i guess i will be using the pm-suspend script which does a lot
[17:36] <warmfreeze> maybe il go over to the sabayon channel ..they will probibly help more O_o
[17:37] <babolat> Kuwanger: a CD/DVD drive is a device in itself, even without a disc inserted in it. a restart is not a bang-it-might-work solution.
[17:37] <ggeecko> I keep getting overflow in spectral RLE ignoring playing mplayer
[17:37] <Dasmoover> hey
[17:37] <flying_greg> eyes`only: thanks for the help it was worth a try.  my menu.lst shows 8.04, 2.6.24-16-generic
[17:37] <Dasmoover> who helped me earlier'?
[17:37] <jarosser87> DASMOOVER that would be me
[17:37] <jarosser87> or at least attempted to
[17:37] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: Do you know offhand if that gnome power manager site has info about the "/usr/sbin/pm-suspend" program you are using? I have to use /etc/acpi/sleep.sh for my computer. Where did you get info about that program?
[17:38] <eyes`only> i still cant believe that an app on an OS that prides itself for lack of need for reboots needed to be restarted for such a simple change as turning off joins and parts
[17:38] <warmfreeze> can any one even read my text?
[17:38] <eyes`only> flying_greg: that's the only entry?
[17:38] <Kuwanger> babolat: Look, I'm pretty sure that at some point, an event is generated by the kernel when a cd-rom is inserted in the dvd-rom drive.  And I'm pretty sure that at that point, something will then execute the mount command necessary to mount the disc.
[17:38] <flying_greg> eyes`only: well, i got recovery mode, memtest also, and win2k
[17:39] <babolat> Kuwanger: as you please *sigh*
[17:39] <Kuwanger> babolat: My general issue is, I don't know what that "something" is and why it's not running/working.
[17:39] <Sp4rKy> Is there some people having usbuirt worling with lirc on last ubuntu kernel (2.6.24.17) ?
[17:39] <tbenita> Hi, I use firefox with ubuntu hardy : Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr; rv:1.9b5) Gecko/2008050509 Firefox/3.0b5 I get an issue with space size : every space char takes the size of 3 normal spaces char. This is the case of both interface and content. Any idea or tip on a dependancie that may be the concern ?
[17:39] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: i think i read somewhere that they would eventually make pm-suspend standard. I found it doing a search for files on my comp for 'suspend' as i was trying to find the script that controls suspend. I don't think pm-suspend does at the moment but it works great. That gnome-power-management website does mention it though. you should check it out.
[17:39] <eyes`only> so when you boot into 2.6.24-16-generic you don't have wireless and video drivers?
[17:39] <actionshrimp> STSX: thanks
[17:39] <STSX> Kuwanger: How about trying "xev" in a terminal, insert your CD/DVD and see if it picks up the event?
[17:39] <eyes`only> flying_greg: so when you boot into 2.6.24-16-generic you don't have wireless and video drivers?
[17:39] <simi> hi, the ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugin folder is no longer there, they changed the structure, were i must place te plugins for firefox 3 now?
[17:39] <flying_greg> eyes`only: i was thinking it was in interfaces, networks,hostname, hosts...everything looks ok
[17:40] <jatt> where can I see the screen resolution used currently on my laptop?
[17:40] <Kuwanger> STSX: xev is for X events, not linux kernel events
[17:40] <anirudh0> simi, manual placement of plugins?
[17:40] <flying_greg> eyes`only:  i got video just fine, just no networking capability whatsoever
[17:40] <STSX> Kuwanger: My mistake. :)
[17:40] <anirudh0> simi, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins i think..
[17:40] <zvacet> jatt : system>preferences>screen resolution
[17:40] <Kuwanger> STSX: No problem.
[17:40] <simi> anirudh0: yes manualy
[17:41] <eyes`only> flying_greg: do you actually have the non-generic video drivers? when it happened to me I was stuck with the software drivers
[17:41] <anirudh0> STSX, dmesg?
[17:41] <uvok> hello
[17:41] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: Did you ever try the /etc/acpi/sleep.sh script?
[17:41] <anirudh0> simi, hmm..try there..not sure if it'll get recognized..look at about:plugins in ff after you put it there..check perms too
[17:42] <flying_greg> eyes`only: i got the ati driver from ati - why would video driver kill my networking?
[17:42] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: yea, i think thats the default script. uhm, i accidentally removed (rm) my hal-system-power-suspend-linux script instead of renaming it (mv) like a dummy! could you pastebin yours for me so that i can have a backup?
[17:42] <uvok> I want to use dpkg-www, but I don't want to install apache. Is it also possible to use another (small?) webserver, and how do I have to configure it? (I chose thttpd)
[17:42] <zvacet> simi : usr/bon/totem/gstreamer
[17:42] <simi> anirudh0: thx
[17:42] <dimedo> hi there, does anyone have an idea why there are no speaker setups shown in my amarok on ubuntu hardy amd64?
[17:42] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: :D You really did that? OK hang on...
[17:42] <zvacet> zvacet :  *usr/bin
[17:43] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: i know i know.....
[17:44] <jatt> zvacet: thanks!
[17:44] <zvacet> jatt . np
[17:44] <eyes`only> flying_greg: it wouldn't, i'm just saying that when i lost wireless i also lost my vid driver, so apparently we don't have the exact same symptoms
[17:44] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: I forgot to ask--are you on Hardy or Gutsy? I'm not sure if they changed the script between the versions, but just to be safe I want to give you the one you need.
[17:44] <anirudh0> uvok, searching google for "lighthttpd tut" is more likely to be helpful
[17:44] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: i'm on hardy
[17:45] <eyes`only> flying_greg: do you not have ability for standard wired NIC either?
[17:46] <flying_greg> eyes`only: nope, i have absolutely NO networking...wired or wireless...i can't even connect to my server through putty...going nuts here
[17:46] <flying_greg> eyes`only: i am stuck using win2k right now...hating life
[17:46] <eyes`only> flying_greg: what happens if you run gnome-network-preferences
[17:46] <STSX> ezzieyguywuf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16210/
[17:47] <Rawk02> anybody know why ubuntu would keep "loosing" my domain settings?
[17:47] <Rawk02> already checked and it is not set to roaming
[17:47] <flying_greg> eyes`only: if that's the same as the ubuntu gui...i can change it between static, dhcp, etc. and nothing happens...can't even ping
[17:48] <ezzieyguywuf> stsx: thanks, thats a lifesaver. let me go try out my custom script now with fn-f4 :-)
[17:48] <filo86> I can't set up internet connection (DHCP && StaticIP doesn't work) thru ethernet modem, ubuntu 7.04, eth0 RTL8168 PCI-E 1Gb
[17:48] <Kuwanger> Hmm, it seems I might be right.
[17:48] <filo86> under winXP it works
[17:48] <STSX> Rawk02: If I were you I would check /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname and make sure they exactly agree, with the domain included.
[17:48] <trebnoj> hey ive got a question: in the topic of this channel it tells me to "type /msg ubottu etiquette"
[17:48] <trebnoj> its that a typo?
[17:48] <flying_greg> filo86: i got same problem under 8.04, i don't know if i got rtl8186 or not
[17:49] <Starnestommy> trebnoj: ubot3` not ubotu
[17:49] <Starnestommy> *ubottu
[17:49] <grobda24> Rawk02 ... it doesn't like you ? :P You should probably provide the specific behaviour.
[17:49] <uvok> ﻿anirudh0: Theres a long chatlog as onliest result, I guess you meant that?
[17:49] <flying_greg> filo86: i think under ubuntu forums there is a fix for the rtl8186
[17:49] <eyes`only> flying_greg: how about gnome-nettools
[17:49] <STSX> Kuwanger: So did you fix your problem?
[17:50] <eyes`only> flying_greg: err gnome-nettool, sorry
[17:50] <Rawk02> STSX: if i just manual edit them to match should that take care of it?
[17:50] <flying_greg> eyes`only: i'll have to jump off here and reboot back into ubuntu - what should i look for?
[17:51] <STSX> Rawk02: That could be a bit dangerous if you don't have experience with them... how about pastebin the exact contents of both those files before you change them?
[17:51] <Kuwanger> STSX: Not yet, but I think I found the answer.  Apparently, the kernel sends events to hal, hal sends events to gnome/kde, and gnome/kde mounts the cd-rom.
[17:51] <eyes`only> well nettool is an app to test pings and tracerts and the like, see if you can select your eth0 and do any of that
[17:51] <russo79> Hi
[17:51] <flying_greg> eyes`only: yeah i can't ping out
[17:52] <Kuwanger> STSX: Since I'm not using gnome/kde, I'm not seeing automount behavior.  However, there's something called ivman which does the same job.
[17:52] <eyes`only> can you ping your router?
[17:52] <harushimo> did anyone I have problems installing Hardy
[17:52] <Noeve> Morning. I'm having some problems with my webcam under Hardy, which isn't detected. I'm on a HP Pavilion dv9000. Most people seem to say their webcam works with V2LC but I'm not getting it detected under either Skype or Ekigo.
[17:52] <STSX> Kuwanger: Interesting--and did you find a way to monitor when a kernel event occurs, like inserting your CD?
[17:52] <Rawk02> hosts:
[17:52] <Rawk02> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[17:52] <Rawk02> 127.0.1.1 zach-desktop.mshome
[17:52] <Rawk02> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[17:52] <Rawk02> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[17:52] <FloodBot3> Rawk02: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:52] <Rawk02> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[17:52] <harushimo> I can't get it to work
[17:52] <handjob> hi i bearly can see the text...i need help - i am wrighting from xubuntu terminal failsafe etc-the reason is i set too high resolution and i can't see anything from normal session.how can i fix it.help plz
[17:52] <flying_greg> eyes`only:  i think so, i'll jump off and try
[17:52] <Kuwanger> STSX: Not directly, no. :/  Dmesg helps, though.
[17:52] <eyes`only> ok
[17:52] <xxSimxx> Hi, i have a probleme with Xubuntu when i run it "live or "install"... I have the Busybox in my face
[17:52] <xxSimxx> why?
[17:52] <STSX> Rawk02: Please pastebin the contents to paste.ubuntu.com :)
[17:53] <flying_greg> b back in a few
[17:53] <eyes`only> if you can ping the router, your prob isn't with ubuntu :)
[17:53] <arch> hi
[17:53] <Rawk02> oops
[17:53] <Rawk02> ok it is on pastbin
[17:53] <flying_greg> i hope i can't then - because i am really scratching my head - i can use router through windows - which i am doing now
[17:54] <handjob> thx 4 help...
[17:54] <arch> anyone have any experience with the pcsx PSX emulator
[17:54] <eyes`only> make sure you ping IP not domain name
[17:54] <STSX> Rawk02: OK... how about the URL so I can see it?
[17:54] <Rawk02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16211/
[17:55] <eyes`only> like ping 74.14.207.99 (google)
[17:55] <harushimo> I keep on getting a buffer i/o error when I'm install trying to install Hardy heron
[17:55] <flying_greg> come to think of it...i can't even local portal through firefox to router
[17:55] <harushimo> what's the best solution
[17:55] <eyes`only> oops ping 72.14.207.99 (google)
[17:55] <SuN13> how to i edit grub to include xp 64 that is located on a first partition of another disk? already have option to boot to xp32 on same disk...do i just change the disk value?
[17:55] <Rawk02> STSX: if i am looking at it right the .mshome should be what the domain name is correct?
[17:55] <xxSimxx> Hi, i have a probleme with Xubuntu when i run it "live or "install"... I have the Busybox in my face
[17:55] <flying_greg> so...no i can't ping router
[17:55] <Flannel> SuN13: That'll work, yeah.
[17:56] <arch> anyone have experience here with ubuntu x64 pcsx
[17:56] <SuN13> flannel: dsk starts from 0 and partition starts from 1 ?
[17:56] <eyes`only> flying_greg: does 'route' give any feedback?
[17:56] <STSX> Rawk02: Yes I believe all you need to do is edit the hostname file to include your "mshome" domain too, so it should be "zach-desktop.mshome". Do you know how to edit the hostname file?
[17:56] <arch> error code here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16213/
[17:56] <[LMJ]> thanks jrib, that's solve my problem
[17:56] <flying_greg> it just keeps sending packets but no return
[17:57] <Yan3> My Mouse-Cursor moves to the corners when I focus a new window. How can I disable this?
[17:57] <Rawk02> STSX: should just be a simple sudo gedit right?
[17:57] <arch> Yan3: Hold on, let me check something for you. It should work.
[17:57] <Flannel> SuN13: No, they both start from 0
[17:58] <Mx60> Hi everybody, got a little problem, really boring. I got the 8.04 cd, and when i try to install it, or to boot on the livecd, it waits a few minutes on the ubuntu loading screen, and then comes the busybox, without any error message.
[17:58] <Mx60> Any idea ? =s
[17:58] <STSX> Rawk02: Actually should be "gksudo gedit /etc/hostname", but to be on the safe side, you might want to backup that file first.
[17:58] <Dasmoover> can anyone help me setup dualview with my nvidia 8400 GS?
[17:58] <Flannel> !hostname | Rawk02
[17:58] <ubot3`> Rawk02: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[17:58] <Noeve> Dasmoover, I suggest you install TwinView and work from there.
[17:58] <SuN13> flannel: what about the chainloader +1 option do i keep that the same?
[17:58] <Flannel> SuN13: yep
[17:58] <arch> Yan3: I don't exactly have an idea how to solve this.
[17:58] <STSX> Rawk02: Technically you need to use gksudo instead of sudo since gedit is a GUI app.
[17:58] <Kuwanger> STSX: Yep, testing it out, it seems to work.
[17:58] <SuN13> flannel: thanks gonna try now
[17:59] <Dasmoover> what is the oackage name?
[17:59] <STSX> Kuwanger: That's great--so what was your solution?
[17:59] <arch> hm whats with the red lines in the chat?
[17:59] <Kuwanger> STSX: Bascially, installing ivman and running it. :)
[17:59] <eyes`only> flying_greg: kinda sounds like a firewall issue, but i don't use the firewall so i don't know how to use it
[17:59] <Yan3> arch: ....seems to be a help for limited persons...
[18:00] <arch> ah
[18:00] <Dasmoover> what is th epackage name for twinview?
[18:00] <arch> any good programs for ripping ISOs from non-audio CDs?
[18:00] <Blizzara> arch, dd
[18:00] <flying_greg> eyes`only:  doh...i might have found it...my hosts is set to 192.168.1.64 and my homeportal shows .66
[18:00] <arch> dd?
[18:01] <Flannel> arch: yep
[18:01] <arch> DD is a program?
[18:01] <Blizzara> dd if=/dev/yourdvddrive of=/your/dir/something.iso
[18:01] <STSX> Kuwanger: Hmmmm... I'm just wondering why Ubuntu doesn't just come with that program by default? Seems like basic functionality they should incorporate....
[18:01] <arch> ohhh
[18:01] <Blizzara> yep, you probably have it already
[18:01] <Rawk02> STSX: ok got that now I look at my network setting> general has host name as zach-desktop.mshome now domain name is workgroup as it should be, question now is will the workgroup domain stick
[18:01] <eyes`only> flying_greg: sweet!
[18:02] <harushimo> did anyone get buffer i/o errors trying to install hardy heron
[18:02] <Flannel> arch: STSX There are already automount/volume manager things installed
[18:02] <flying_greg> i'll jump off and try to fix the hosts file - brb
[18:02] <Flannel> arch: er, ignore that last one.
[18:02] <eyes`only> STSX: I use sudo gedit all the time :)
[18:02] <Mx60> Hi everybody, got a little problem, really boring. I got the 8.04 cd, and when i try to install it, or to boot on the livecd, it waits a few minutes on the ubuntu loading screen, and then comes the busybox, without any error message.
[18:02] <Kuwanger> STSX: What Flannel said.  There's already automounters installed for most people who use kubuntu/ubuntu.  I'm the odd-ball that uses icewm. :)
[18:03] <STSX> Kuwanger: Oh I missed that part. :)
[18:04] <anirudh0> Kuwanger, i could'nt manage to configure ivman..though install's easy..try the automount program
[18:04] <anirudh0> Kuwanger, when you try to access a drive..say ls /mnt/cdrom, the drive will get mounted...config's much easier..forgot the details, google them up
[18:04] <STSX> eyes`only: gksudo sets up the correct environmental variables for gedit and other GUI apps--just because gedit is tolerant enough to be run with sudo doesn't mean you should. :)
[18:05] <Kuwanger> anirudh0: For me it was easy.  Run as root, run as user, and it just worked.
[18:05] <Kuwanger> anirudh0: But, if I have problems, I'll look into automount.
[18:05] <arch> MX60: Does your computer have a 32 or 64 bit processor
[18:05] <Mx60> 32bit
[18:05] <STSX> Flannel: BTW thanks for that bot info about hostnames--I forgot about the command "hostname".
[18:05] <Mx60> (I would have take another release in the 64 bit case)
[18:05] <arch> Mx60: Hold on for a minute...
[18:06] <anirudh0> Kuwanger, oh..good for you..but I was;nt talking about debs
[18:06] <arch> Mx60: Get a CD-R and use this iso: http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso
[18:06] <Mx60> arch > Thanks you're the first one answering me x)
[18:06] <STSX> Rawk02: Yes, the domain should stick at this point. Try rebooting if you want to check.
[18:07] <Kuwanger> anirudh0: Uh huh...  What package is automount in?
[18:07] <arch> Mx60: Welcome. Just an alternative install CD that dosent use live. Pretty easy to get through, just installed through it yesterday
[18:07] <Rawk02> STSX: that was the weird part, it wouldn't leave when reboot, just at random times through the day
[18:07] <Mx60> Huh... what do you mean ?
[18:07] <harushimo> is there alternative install cd for 64-bit
[18:07] <Mx60> I should get another install CD?
[18:08] <Mx60> A different version ?
[18:08] <arch> harushimo: Yes, there is
[18:08] <Mx60> harushimo > Yes of course
[18:08] <STSX> Rawk02: Strange things can happen when /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname do not agree exactly. :)
[18:08] <harushimo> I need it because I can't get the both burnt cd and cd I got from canonical to work
[18:08] <Josdell> Hi everyone . Um my Wired Connection isn't working. last time someon told me to modprobe something but i can't remember what it is, anyone know
[18:08] <arch> harushimo: I used it. Just go to the install page and click 64 bit and check the alternate install CD. Find the nearest mirror and click Download. Done!
[18:09] <harushimo> what's the site
[18:09] <harushimo> the main ubuntu site
[18:09] <harushimo> ?
[18:09] <Rawk02> STSX: last question if my network domain is workgroup, should .mshome be changed to agree with that?
[18:09] <tasselhof> господа, а эта комната рускоязычна?
[18:09] <Flannel> harushimo: ubuntu.com
[18:09] <legend2440> Mx60: read post #7 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765228
[18:09] <Flannel> !ru \ tasselhof
[18:09] <arch> MX60: No, obviously there's a conflict with the livecd and something in the computer's internals, so this alternate install cd should do fine
[18:09] <ubot3`> Factoid ru \ tasselhof not found
[18:09] <STSX> Rawk02: Where are you seeing that?
[18:09] <Flannel> !ru | tasselhof
[18:09] <ubot3`> tasselhof: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:10] <calin> irc://irc.freenode.net/doctrine
[18:10] <Josdell> hey guys what do i have to modprobe to get my wired connection working?
[18:10] <Rawk02> STSX: I have my home network set on the workgroup domain, should zach-desktop.mshome be changed to zach-desktop.workgroup?
[18:10] <Slart> !wifi | Josdell, see what you can find here:
[18:10] <ubot3`> Josdell, see what you can find here:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:11] <arch> Anyone know of a good PSX emulator for AMD64?
[18:11] <Josdell> No , it's not wireless, its wired
[18:11] <harushimo> I have a burnt cd for the 64 bit and the one from ubuntu
[18:11] <harushimo> I can't get it to work
[18:11] <arch> I've tried PCSX. I can't get it to work.
[18:12] <Slart> Josdell: ahh.. sorry.. got you mixed up with someone else... it would depend on what kind of network card you have, I guess
[18:12] <STSX> Rawk02: "I have my home network set on the workgroup domain"--what do you mean? Where did you set this up? In Windows?
[18:12] <Josdell> I have a broadcom wired connection
[18:13] <julle> How do i copy my home, etc, and opt catalogue, it doesn't work with sudo
[18:13] <ColdFingers> I am trying to remove the BRontok Virus from a WinDoze box using the Hardy LiveCD but I don't know how to find all the 44.3KB EXE files easily? Does anyone know how to search for EXE's of a certain size/date?
[18:13] <Rawk02> STSX: My roomates xp machine is set to workgroup
[18:13] <josspyker> Josdell: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/hardy-cafuego/broadcom/
[18:13] <josspyker> hee did all the work for you
[18:13] <Slart> ColdFingers: find can search for files with a certain size
[18:13] <Josdell> thanks josspyker
[18:13] <Slart> ColdFingers: you'll have to read the man page for the syntax as I have never used that feature myself
[18:13] <arch> ColdFingers:Wow, brave soul. Trying to remove viruses using Ubuntu Live?
[18:14] <Rawk02> STSX: I have had them talking once, but can't get them to see each others network shares anymore
[18:14] <arch> ColdFingers: Well, in another Windows computer that would be easy to do, but other than that, I HAVE NO IDEA.
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> arch How far did you get with pcx2 ?
[18:15] <ColdFingers> I am having success deleting the little bastards one by one but there are about 73 exe named the same as the folder they are in spread all over the harddrive and I don't know how to make a script to find them all...!
[18:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ColdFingers Try clamav
[18:15] <Slart> ColdFingers: ah.. you can do another thing..are you using hardy?
[18:15] <arch> Jack_Sparrow, Wait, i remember u, and uh, its pcsx, I get an unusual error. Lemme get the error in the pastebin thing
[18:15] <sarah_bear> hey guys, is there a good media player that displays the name of songs like itunes?
[18:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !players
[18:15] <STSX> Rawk02: Then maybe yes, you should change it to be "zach-desktop.workgroup" then--use the "hostname" command though: sudo hostname zach-desktop.workgroup
[18:15] <ubot3`> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[18:16] <arch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16213/ <<< That's my error.
[18:16] <sarah_bear> i am streaming from a online radio station, any way to get it to display the song/artist like itunes does?
[18:16] <ColdFingers> Slart: Yes, I am using the HARDY HERON CD to boot from....
[18:16] <STSX> Rawk02: And after that command make sure everything agrees with /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname.
[18:16] <Slart> ColdFingers: rightclick on the top panel, select "Add to panel"... you'll get a new window, look for "Search for files...", click Add.. now you've got a new button on that panel, click it and you can specify file size limes etc
[18:16] <julle> How do i copy my home/etc/opt catalogue when sudo doesn't work?
[18:17] <ikar> Iv got 713y chipset tv card where 2 find drivers
[18:17] <Slart> julle: sudo works.. but if it doesn't work for you there is nothing you can do I guess
[18:17] <ikar> *713x
[18:17] <ColdFingers> I have not been able to delete the files in windoze in normal/safemode so I had to approach it with some bigger guns! = hardy!
[18:17] <Jack_Sparrow> julle there is no reason sudo cp should not work what is the actual command you are usintg
[18:18] <eyes`only_> ColdFingers: I did the same thing using FC9 live
[18:18] <ColdFingers> Slart: I am going to try what you suggested and I will get back to u..
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ikar You can look in the list of supported hardware and see if it has support
[18:18] <julle> Jack_Sparrow: i think i solved it, i did a gksu nautilus instead
[18:18] <eyes`only_> I'd use Ubuntu, but FC9 allows you to create an actual partition for saving changes
[18:18] <ikar> I think it isnt supported
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> julle Use that with caution.. it is not forgiving if you make a mistake
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> eyes`only_ YOu can do persistent mode with ubuntu too
[18:19] <arch> Does anyone have any idea what I should do if I get an error saying: RGB & YUV not found.  Quitting.
[18:19] <eyes`only_> Jack_Sparrow: yeah? got a URL guide?
[18:19] <arch> ?
[18:19] <swhitt> anyone know why I get "`libtext-wrapil8n-perl' is missing final newline"?
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !persistent
[18:19] <ubot3`> Factoid persistent not found
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> darn
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[18:20] <mazikowski> Hi, I'm using 8.04 LTS 32bit and the latest version of Opera. I'm trying to get Flash to work (it does in Firefox) in Opera. I pointed it to ~/.mozilla/plugins and it found libflashplayer.so, but all flash content appears as a gray box in Opera. Can anybody help me?
[18:20] <arch> Anyone else here agree that Ubuntu beats Windows Vista by a longshot?
[18:20] <mazikowski> arch: yes
[18:20] <Jack_Sparrow> eyes`only_ One of many ways  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9893
[18:20] <eyes`only_> Jack_Sparrow: is there an easy util for installing hardy live cd onto a usb stick like fc9?
[18:20] <Slart> mazikowski: I've seen others ask about this.. I haven't seen anyone able to answer though.. have you searched the forums?
[18:20] <swhitt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cpp_4%3a4.2.3-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack)
[18:20] <arch> Mazikowski: Duh.
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> eyes`only_ like this  Make an iso on usb bootable http://jak-linux.org/tmp/iso2usb.sh
[18:21] <Rawk02> STSX: Nautilus does not want to open now
[18:21] <mazikowski> Slart: yes, but they all just say to make it use the .mozilla/plugins dir
[18:21] <harushimo> if I did a zero-fill of the drive, would buffer i/o error not come up
[18:21] <arch> mazikowski: Try installing the Gnash flash player.
[18:21] <STSX> Rawk02: Check if /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname match...
[18:21] <idefix_> it is when you realize you want to be a nerd that you're lost forever.. would it be possible to set an ubuntu alarm for when pixel x,y turns into a different colour?
[18:22] <Slart> mazikowski: well.. keep asking the channel.. someone might know what to do
[18:22] <mazikowski> Slart: I had no problem in 7.10, but when I reinstalled to 8.04, it didn't work
[18:22] <arch> Mazikowski: Go into terminal, type "sudo apt-get install gnash"
[18:22] <Rawk02> STSX: Trying, terminal wont even open...
[18:22] <etronik> Rehi all!  whats the most recommended way to remote access my ubuntu box from windows ?? besides VNC
[18:22] <eyes`only_> Jack_Sparrow: that doesnt include the persistent drive though, does it?
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik ssh
[18:22] <Slart> idefix_: I don't think there's a finished tool for doing that.. but you might be able to write a short python script or something
[18:22] <arch> etronik: What?
[18:23] <etronik> with a GUI into X
[18:23] <Slart> etronik: ssh
[18:23] <whazilla> how do i findout witch device is the cdrom to umount  it ?
[18:23] <Slart> etronik: ah.. gui.. nevermind ssh then
[18:23] <whazilla> 8.04
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> eyes`only_ the livecd on usb does not need persistent mode and you can do just about anything from that point
[18:23] <glitsj16> mazikowski: have you seen and tried http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/ubuntu-tiphow-to-get-flash-working-in.html ? it's for Opera 9.27
[18:23] <legend2440> Rawk02: alt+f2 work?
[18:23] <crackaddict> any one who can help in patching wine ?
[18:23] <crackaddict> the wine room sucks and is quiet
[18:23] <eyes`only_> Jack_Sparrow: yes, but you can't save your changes!
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> crackaddict /join #winehq
[18:23] <DIL> if you have a 64 bit os you cannot install 32 bit applications true?
[18:24] <crackaddict> theres no one int here
[18:24] <Slart> DIL: wrong
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> eyes`only_ Actually you can if you create an extra partition on the stick
[18:24] <STSX> Rawk02: Sounds like something went seriously wrong--you may have to boot into recovery mode and manually edit those two files to make sure those domain entries exactly agree. You could use "sudo nano /etc/hosts" for example.
[18:24] <arch> crackaddict, justgoogleit.com
[18:24] <Henry_RHodes_III> still no wireless on the aspire
[18:24] <Henry_RHodes_III> I am realy trying
[18:24] <mDemocritus> etronik: you could run a connection to your x server over ssh.... but i doubt it'd be worth all the hassle. i'd just use vnc
[18:24] <Slart> DIL: wine is 32-bit and works nicely on 64-bit systems
[18:24] <Rawk02> STSX: Looking like it
[18:24] <eyes`only_> Jack_Sparrow: I tried... it made the whole stick look like one partition, i wasn't able to make another
[18:25] <Slart> DIL: just to mention one example
[18:25] <Henry_RHodes_III> mad wifi
[18:25] <josspyker> Henry_RHodes_III: chipset?
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> eyes`only_ ONce you have it on the stick, resize the existing partition are add another
[18:25] <swhitt> anyone have problems with installing cpp_4%3a4.2.3-1ubuntu5_i386.deb these days?
[18:25] <Henry_RHodes_III> broadcom ath
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> eyes`only_ And it should have created two partitions if you did it correctly
[18:26] <etronik> ok forget the freaking X client, going to the VNC route
[18:26] <josspyker> Henry_RHodes_III: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/hardy-cafuego/broadcom/
[18:26] <DIL> so what about he opposit 64 bit application on 32 bit os
[18:26] <blaked> hey guys
[18:26] <arch> Jack_Sparrow: Wow... How long have you been working with Ubuntu? You've answered half the problems here
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[18:26] <blaked> DIL: that's a stupid question
[18:26] <etronik> how to make my wireless network connection with a static IP instead of the roaming profile ??
[18:26] <Henry_RHodes_III> dude that looks promising
[18:26] <eyes`only_> Jack_Sparrow: gonna have to try that. much prefer hardy over fc9
[18:26] <blaked> arch: this is all he does...
[18:26] <DIL> fuck you asshole | blaked
[18:26] <Kuwanger> Well, thanks for all the help.
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> arch And I usually avoid this place on weekends
[18:26] <Slart> !ops | DIL
[18:26] <ubot3`> DIL: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01!
[18:26] <Henry_RHodes_III> I appreciate it I fell guilty doing it the easy way
[18:27] <josspyker> Henry_RHodes_III: he did al the work for you
[18:27] <arch> blaked and Jack_Sparrow: Lol
[18:27] <Xorothal> how can I make iptables save its config on shutdown and load the saved config on boot?
[18:27] <Henry_RHodes_III> I hat having to depend on that
[18:27] <blaked> !ops | DIL
[18:27] <Henry_RHodes_III> but thanks
[18:27] <jpds> blaked: he's gone
[18:27] <arch> oh nice
[18:27] <blaked> rofl i love snitching to the chanops
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart no need to call ops when I am already here
[18:27] <arch> Wait, jack has mod status?
[18:27] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: I have no idea who the ops are in here =)
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> You just wake everyone up
[18:27] <Henry_RHodes_III> I think this is the best os!!!!  :-D
[18:27] <jpds> Slart: /cs access #ubuntu list
[18:28] <jpds> Slart: err, /msg ChanServ
[18:28] <eboyjr> Let's say I have a folder full of porn (hypothetically speaking) ... can I hide it? If so, how?
[18:28] <josspyker> eboyjr: lol,use truecrypt
[18:28] <blaked> i wonder if all the chanops have like an alarm in their home that rings when somebody puts !ops
[18:28] <mazikowski> ﻿glitsj16: thanks, that looks like a winner :)
[18:28] <blaked> like in a fire station
[18:28] <eboyjr> thanks
[18:28] <Xorothal> put a . in front of the name
[18:28] <Jack_Sparrow> blaked Some do yes.. and it get annoying
[18:28] <arch> blked: LOL
[18:28] <eyes`only_> arch: as for windows vs ubuntu: if you have ALL the right hardware ubuntu wins IMO, but when you can't run compiz and also render your videos in xv because your vid driver isn't compatible (nvidia), well, windows has an advantage somewhere...
[18:28] <arch> blaked: LOL
[18:28] <jpds> eboyjr: tar it, and encrypt the tarball with gnupg
[18:29] <glitsj16> mazikowski: glad it worked :)
[18:29]  * DigitalVibe is running Ubuntu on his HP Pavillion 9650 laptop.
[18:29] <Slart> jpds: nice.. never used that before =)
[18:29] <arch> eyes`only_:Ya, it sucks without Compiz, I dunno what I'd do without it
[18:29] <[LMJ]> hello again, in my small C program "#include <iostream>" give me an error, Should I install something to get it work ?
[18:29] <DigitalVibe> i'm trying to get XP running in Qemu now, so it'd be the ultimate machine then :D
[18:30] <blaked> Jack_Sparrow: do you have an alarm?
[18:30] <m_newton> Hello! Any one know how to configure a wireless network on terminal???
[18:30] <Starnestommy> [LMJ]: what error?
[18:30] <DigitalVibe> ultimate as in "XP for development testing"
[18:30]  * arch waits patiently and watches Jack_sparrow intently
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> eyes`only_ 8000 nvidia's seem to be the only real porblem
[18:30] <Xorothal> [LMJ], sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:30] <blaked> lolol build-essential
[18:30] <josspyker> m_newton: what is the problem
[18:30] <blaked> everyone should know that!
[18:30] <eyes`only_> arch: i can run compiz but then i have to render xvids and such in software mode, which looks like hell
[18:30] <jsooksom> hi
[18:30] <astro76> [LMJ]: isn't iostream c++ ?
[18:30] <eyes`only_> Jack_Sparrow: checking my nvidia card :)
[18:31] <Ashfire908> Is MySQL better than postgresql or vise versa?
[18:31] <arch> eyes`only_: Not for me. What graphics card do you run?
[18:31] <Slart> !best | Ashfire908
[18:31] <ubot3`> Ashfire908: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[18:31] <h4mx0r> would there be any reason for 60070udp port to be open on my machine?
[18:31] <cipher_nemo> greetings, I'm trying to install grub on a FAT32 partition where XP resides (I dual boot to Xubuntu and XP). Currently the boot partition is the FAT32 one, and the grub files reside on an ext3 one. Unfortunately, the ext3 one is on an SD card, and I want to move grub onto the FAT32 partition. Is this possible, or does grub need an ext or other Linux/*nix partition?
[18:31] <darrend> ssyhaoyaa2946
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I will be lurking while I eat...  Please play nice
[18:31] <DigitalVibe> Ashfire908: postgre is generally considered more feature rich and flexible, but MySQL suits most people's needs.
 Well, i am trying to run the server, and i have a wireless connection, I dont know how to do it without a gui. I want to get ubuntu-desktop but i cant due to no internet! How do i find my wireless network?
[18:32] <Ashfire908> Slart, I said better not best :P
[18:32] <h4mx0r> cipher_nemo: any reason your using fat32 instead of ntfs?
[18:32] <josspyker> m_newton: phone
[18:32] <josspyker> moment
[18:32] <Slart> Ashfire908: =).. sorry.. I'll take back my !best.. I hope there is a !better factoid =)
 ?what?
[18:32] <Ashfire908> DigitalVibe, if a program supports both, which should I use? (I'm installing moodle and it wants to know which)
[18:32] <cipher_nemo> h4mx0r, not really, but I hear grub doesn't like to run on NTFS, correct? That fat32 partition is for XP only.
[18:32] <blaked> code is poetry?
[18:32] <arch> Jack_Sparrow: *little kid voice* K!
[18:33] <blaked> what does it mean when somebody says "code is poetry"?
[18:33] <DigitalVibe> Ashfire908: i've always used moodle with MySQL - purely because it's more widely supported
[18:33] <josspyker> m_newton: in terminal iwconfig
[18:33] <socr> when getting updates from the net, ubuntu saves those .deb's in disk and installs. Can I save these deb's somewhere else to use them later for a next install , like on a USB stick ? I'd have to adjust sources.list, I presume ...
[18:33] <Slart> blaked: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic... I hear those guys know all these questions =)
[18:33] <Slart> !aptoncd | socr
[18:33] <ubot3`> socr: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
 i type iwconfig, then what
[18:34] <arch> socr: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=persistent+install
[18:34] <DigitalVibe> Ashfire908: it may be that performance is better with postgre as it does some tasks natively, where as MySQL may need to do more work... i'm not sure with moodle though, to be honest.
[18:34] <h4mx0r> cipher_nemo: that is completely untrue and your over complicating things :(
[18:34] <socr> thnx,
[18:34] <STSX> arch: Please watch you language, OK?
 on ubutnu, not the server, it gives me wlan0, eth0, lo, wmaster0
[18:34] <DigitalVibe> Ashfire908: moodle certainly works well enough with MySQL.
[18:35] <arch> STSX: K, it was just a website name
[18:35] <etronik> mDemocritus: you seggested VNC - doesn't that require an existing logged in session before connections are allowed ?
[18:35] <[LMJ]> arg astro76  i'm mixing C & C++ ? :-/
[18:35] <[LMJ]> what a mess
 I want wlan0, everything else is no wireless extensions.
[18:35] <astro76> [LMJ]: for c only you use stdio instead of iostream
[18:35] <cipher_nemo> h4mx0r, ah thanks for clearing that up :-)  I must have heard wrong. I can go to NTFS if needed, but FAT32 is already there. Is this possible with FAT32? If not, I guess I could resize the partition and add a small one for grub? What do you suggest?
[18:35] <durino> k
[18:35] <josspyker> m_newton: do you know the essid name
[18:36] <[LMJ]> ok astro76
[18:36] <mDemocritus> etronik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
 Yes
[18:36] <DigitalVibe> Ashfire908: have a llook at the feature comparison table here: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1050671.html
[18:36] <socr> arch: I prefer interpersonal communications, however linited on the net,  above google.
[18:36] <h4mx0r> cipher_nemo: its all possible just go and do it, but the problem is what are you doing with an ssd card? do you perhaps mean a solid state hard drive?
[18:36] <josspyker> m_newton: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "your name"
[18:36] <mDemocritus> etronik: "With tightvnc server or with configuration of GDM you will have a separate session."
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> cipher_nemo You can do it with fat32 with no problems
[18:37] <etronik> mDemocritus: having a look, thanks
[18:38] <cipher_nemo> h4mx0r, Nope, I have an Asus Eee PC running Xubuntu and XP. I have XP on the internal 4GB SSD, and Xubuntu running on a 16GB SD card (15MB/sec)
[18:38] <eboyjr> jpds: I still want to be able to open the files inside the folder without it going into /tmp
[18:38] <cipher_nemo> Jack_Sparrow, thanks. Do I just use grub-install command?
[18:39] <h4mx0r> cipher_nemo: have you ever considered using virtualbox?
[18:39] <Josdell> ting up my wired connection, it's not on or anything, how do I bring it back up, its a broadcom(yikes)
[18:39] <cipher_nemo> h4mx0r, never heard of it.
 srry my internet connection was lost
[18:40] <h4mx0r> cipher_nemo: it can emulate other systems on your own at a very low level, you can merge the desktops together and even do fancy compiz effects with it going its rather nice
I am m_newton
[18:40] <cipher_nemo> h4mx0r, the system works fine as is, but the reason I want grub on the SSD is so that I can swap SD cards when I want instead of being forced to have the SD card with Xubuntu always in to boot.
[18:40] <STSX> h4mx0r: I've used VirtualBox and unless you really need it, it can add another layer of complication (and thus problems).
 I know the essid
[18:41] <josspyker> mac_: ok
[18:41] <Josdell> hey guys i need help bringing back up my wired connection, its not on or anything
[18:41] <Josdell> its a broadcom
[18:41] <h4mx0r> cipher: you might have to change the boot order of devices perhaps
[18:41] <josspyker> mac_: did you type in terminal sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "your name"
[18:41] <eyes`only_> Jack_Sparrow: Nvidia Go5200
[18:41] <eyes`only_> arch: Nvidia Go5200
[18:41] <idefix_> python is standard equipment for any ubuntu user
 no, let me try, see what it does
[18:42] <cipher_nemo> h4mx0r, why would I want that? I don't want to emulate like with vmware. I want two, isolated operating systems. XP for games, and Xubuntu for development.
[18:42] <eyes`only_> grr wireless dropped
[18:42] <eyes`only_> as I was saying, Nvidia Go5200. Can't use anything but software rendering for video when using Compiz
[18:42] <Xorothal> cipher_nemo, games? on an eee?
[18:42] <josspyker> mac_: are you using wep/wpa
 I did, it didnt ask me for the passwd to network though
[18:42] <eyes`only>  grr wireless dropped
[18:42] <eyes`only>  as I was saying, Nvidia Go5200. Can't use anything but software rendering for video when using Compiz
[18:43] <blaked> what ssh client do you guys use on windows?
 that may be because the passwd is already stored on my computer
[18:43] <sauvin> "There is no sincerer love than the love of food." (George Bernard Shaw)
[18:43] <arch> eyes_`only: I use an ATI... I heard there's some problems with that graph card and Compiz.
[18:43] <SwedeMike> blaked: securecrt, others use putty
[18:43] <h4mx0r> blaked: try putty
[18:43] <moshe> this may seem like a stupid question,but, I am new to ubuntu and need to direct my downloads to /documents vice /tmp. Any suggestions?
 I will try on server, Thanks btw
[18:43] <Oli```> PuTTY ftw, blaked
[18:43] <cipher_nemo> Xorothal, yup, Diablo 2, Darkstone, Baulder's Gate 1/2 all work great on slower hardware, especially with Intel dev drivers to emulate 800x600 or 1024x768 resolutions. It works great.
[18:43] <blaked> im using securecrt now, it seems alright
[18:43] <Slart> moshe: downloads in firefox?
[18:43] <arch> eyes_`only: Laptop, right?
[18:43] <mohkohn> goodnight
[18:44] <eyes`only> arch: yep, goXXXX are mobile
[18:44] <swhitt> I can't install anything, I keep on getting 'files list for package `libtext-wrapi18n-perl' is missing final newline. Does anyone know what I can do?
[18:44] <h4mx0r> moshe: which downloads? firefox downloads? stop asking about ubuntu and ask firefox peoples
[18:44] <cipher_nemo> Xorothal, even the old GTA2 is smooth, lol
[18:44] <Xorothal> lol
[18:44] <cipher_nemo> I save the newer games like LOTRO and Oblivion for my desktop PC ;-)
[18:44] <Henry_RHodes_III> wrong firmware
[18:44] <julle_> What is Busybox, i tried to installed Hardy and got to some built-in shell?!
[18:44] <Henry_RHodes_III> I have 63
[18:44] <Henry_RHodes_III> I hope this gets fixed
[18:44] <arch> eyes_`only: I figured. Ya, i heard Go____ cards have probs with Compiz. Stupid graphics errors and seemingly meaningless OS's...
[18:44] <moshe> yes,Slart, the d/l's go to /tmp and I am unable to see them in my /tmp dir. Need to send them to /documents so I can save them to external hdd
[18:44] <Henry_RHodes_III> for everynes sake
[18:45] <Starnestommy> julle_: does "initramfs" show up anywhere?
[18:45] <javagamer> I have quite a problem.  My CPU appeared to be overheating, so I checked the stock cooler.  When I discovered it was loose I decided to remove it and put it on properly.  I got it to fir nicely, but now I can't even finish booting before the computer shuts off (presumably because it thinks the CPU is over 100C).  I have the cover off and I can touch the heatsink, but the CPU thinks it's overheating.  What could I have done wrong?
[18:45] <h4mx0r> eyes`only: your supposed to execute a script to turn off compiz when ever you run certain programs then enable it again when they exit
[18:45] <Slart> moshe: I think it's a setting in firefox.. not ubuntu.. check in firefox.. edit menu, preferences.. main tab
[18:45] <Henry_RHodes_III> it would be a good idea to do it for newbis like me that are comming from novell netware or vista
[18:45] <arch> Well, my question still haznt been answered, and i think nobody has any exp with PCSX, so im out
[18:45] <Oli```> javagamer: does your BIOS have a hardware section.. That should tell you the temps
[18:45] <moshe> Slart, will try that....thx
[18:45] <cipher_nemo> javagamer, possibly not seated the heatsink properly? Did you use thermal paste, etc.?
[18:45] <Slart> moshe: you're welcome
[18:45] <julle_> Starnestommy: yes it does
[18:46] <eyes`only> h4mx0r: well yeah there's an idea, but the problem is that it does it when you view vids in FF as well, and manually exec'ing that script before every time i hit a page with a video would drive me nuts
[18:46] <h4mx0r> javagamer: what thermal paste did you use and is it touching properly? did you leave residue in the paste? try using rubbing alcohol to remove all of the stuff around the cpu then reapply the paste and reseat the fan
[18:46] <Starnestommy> julle_: is this after installing, or before?
[18:46] <blaked> lol @ javagamer
[18:46] <julle_> Starnestommy: before
[18:46] <javagamer> Oli: It's the BIOS that tells me the CPU is going over 100C
[18:46] <Xorothal> woah
[18:46] <Starnestommy> julle_: sounds like a bad cd
[18:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> blaked: if you can't say something helpful, be quiet.
[18:46] <h4mx0r> blaked: its a common problem same as a cable coming lose
[18:46] <Oli```> javagamer: in that case, stop booting up until you're sure the HSU's on properly. You don't want to knacker the CPU
[18:46] <julle_> Starnestommy: ahaa okey, i'll burn another one
[18:47] <cipher_nemo> javagamer, the motherboard thermal sensors might be out of whack as well... sometimes they fail quickly on cheap mobos
[18:47] <julle_> Starnestommy: Thank you!
[18:47] <Josdell> hey guys what module does the Broadcom Ethernet controller use?
[18:47] <h4mx0r> julle_: burn another what?
[18:47] <javagamer> I didn't reapply any thermal paste (I assumed what's on there already is enough, I don't have any thermal paste on hand)
[18:47] <mDemocritus> javagamer: the cpu is either overheating or the temp probe is messed up.... one or the other
[18:47] <Starnestommy> julle_: you may need to also download it again, or try the alternate cd
[18:47] <mDemocritus> javagamer: get some... it's pretty cheap... like 3-6 bucks
[18:47] <Henry_RHodes_III> whats a module is it liuke an nlm
[18:47] <blaked> !ops | h4mx0r
[18:47] <ubot3`> h4mx0r: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01!
[18:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> what exactly was his problem?
[18:48] <h4mx0r> he's a douche that likes to laugh at people when their cpu overheats?
[18:48] <Henry_RHodes_III> thats not good
[18:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> h4mx0r: that's a given
[18:48] <Starnestommy> !ot
[18:48] <ubot3`> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:48] <Xorothal> blaked, "ONLY use this trigger in emergencies"
[18:48] <Myrtti> blaked: what on earth?
[18:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> blaked: stop abusing the bot - if you can't follow the code of conduct, then go elsewhere.
[18:49] <WarPriest> Hi.
[18:49] <Jaikkuli> when i install various programs into my ubuntu system.. does the main weight of the data go somewhere in the root.. or specificly within the home mounted partition
[18:49] <Henry_RHodes_III> hail to the priest
[18:49] <WarPriest> I request some help. I'm new to ubuntu
[18:49] <WarPriest> :D
[18:49] <WarPriest> xD
[18:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> !ask | WarPriest
[18:49] <ubot3`> WarPriest: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:49] <Myrtti> Jaikkuli: somewhere in the root
[18:49] <astro76> Jaikkuli: everywhere besides /home
[18:49] <javagamer> The problem is it's sunday and there isn't anywhere nearby that sells thermal paste.  I'm checking if any of my freinds have any.  Would none-computer places (like a hardware store) sell thermal paste?
[18:49] <Chrysalis> what do you all use for a quick cfv md5 checksum check? i read about cksfv but not in the repos so just get cfv from the repos?
[18:49] <Henry_RHodes_III> I am still an elf
[18:49] <astro76> Jaikkuli: mostly /usr typically
[18:49] <cn28h> Anyone able to install ubuntu 8.04 in qemu?
[18:50] <Jaikkuli> astro76: which means i still should have a decent amount of space put away for the root then?
[18:50] <Flannel> Jaikkuli: It all goes in root, unless you tell some of it to go elsewhere (home is a good place to keep elsewhere).  All of your non-personal stuff will be stored inside of /, but in a variety of directories
[18:50] <Slart> javagamer: anywhere you can buy a processor I guess..
[18:50] <Jaikkuli> astro76: because i am not sure what is reasonable
[18:50] <cn28h> it fails  for me saying it can't find a cdrom drive
[18:50] <h4mx0r> ﻿javagamer: rubbing alcohol over the cpu removes old adhesive residue and quickly dries. The less water content the better don't worry about frying stuff because the water content has less electrons
[18:50] <moshe> Slart,that was the problem....thx
[18:50] <etronik> Can I create the xinetd.d dir under /etc ?? 8.04 does not have it by default
[18:50] <WarPriest> !ask How do I increase the resolution? The resolution goes up to only 800*600.
[18:50] <ubot3`> WarPriest: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:50] <WarPriest> D:
[18:50] <Jaikkuli> so if i am storing all my personal data in home.. how much would be reasonable to put aside for root?
[18:50] <Flannel> Jaikkuli: 10G /should/ be fine, 20G will definately be (for a standard desktop install, if you know better, give yourself more)
[18:50] <mDemocritus> javagamer: probably not... best wait till tomorrow. put down the computer and go play catch or something :P
[18:50] <Slart> moshe: ah.. nice
[18:50] <Jaikkuli> Flannel: ok
[18:50] <Starnestommy> WarPriest: don't prefix things with !ask, just ask
[18:50] <WarPriest> ﻿!ask How do I increase the resolution?
[18:51] <h4mx0r> javagamer: just be sure to apply new paste and use a plastic bag or similar for every step to make sure nothing mixes that shouldn't
[18:51] <WarPriest> oh
[18:51] <WarPriest> XD
[18:51] <Pulseaudio> Excuse me, but is this generally a good idea: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Installing_Pulseaudio_Tools ?
[18:51] <Slart> javagamer: 10GB or so.. depends on how much programs you're going to install
[18:51] <Slart> !res | WarPriest
[18:51] <ubot3`> WarPriest: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:51] <javagamer> Slart:?
[18:51] <cipher_nemo> Trying to do a sudo grub-install on /dev/sda1 (internal SSD), but I'm getting a message that rm can't remove /boot/grub/stage1 for read-only reasons. Do I need to run this while booted to a LiveCD or other bootable Linux instead of the currently installed Xubuntu?
[18:51] <WarPriest> How do I increase my resolution. My monitor supports up to 1280*1024 but ubuntu goes up to 800*600.
[18:51] <mazikowski> I got flash working in opera, but i get this message: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" and no sound, how might i go about fixing that?
[18:51] <Jaikkuli> also another thing.. should my root be primary and home partition logical?
[18:51] <Slart> javagamer: nevermind.. wrong person =)
[18:51] <Pulseaudio> !ask pulseaudio
[18:51] <ubot3`> Factoid ask pulseaudio not found
[18:51] <Pulseaudio> !pulseaudio
[18:52] <ubot3`> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[18:52] <glitsj16> Pulseaudio: it sure helps if you have more than one sound card
[18:52] <Myrtti> Jaikkuli: that's totally up to your own preferences
[18:52] <RadarG1> hello everyone I was wondering if somebody can help me out. I use to have DammSmall Linux installed on an old 450MHz box and it worked fine. I have since upgraded to xubuntu 8.04 and now the NIC isnt working.
[18:52] <h4mx0r> javagamer: all hardware stores sell the stuff but if you like have to make some you could use baby powder and umm some sort of oil I remember reading about these people making systems out of old nintendo parts doing that but its sloppy work that wouldn't be a long term fix
[18:52] <Pulseaudio> glitsj16: what does? Pulseaudio or those Pulseaudio tools instructions?
[18:52] <glitsj16> Pulseaudio: both
[18:52] <Jaikkuli> Myrtti: i cannot remember it's complete meaning.. i learnt like 3 years ago, and was half asleep while listening
[18:52]  * WarPriest sigh
[18:52] <mDemocritus> h4mx0r: hardware stores sell CPU thermal paste?
[18:52] <Pulseaudio> glitsj16: I thought Pulseaudio was installed by default though
[18:53] <Pulseaudio> but what of the libflashsupport installation there?
[18:53] <Jaikkuli> Myrtti: i shall wiki it
[18:53] <glitsj16> Pulseaudio: it is, you'll have to start the daemon though
[18:53]  * WarPriest wants to increase resolution but cant. :[
[18:53] <RadarG1> anyone have any ideas to get the NIC working
[18:53] <Pulseaudio> hmm
[18:53] <Myrtti> Jaikkuli: I usually try to keep atleast /boot and swap and / in primary
[18:53] <Pulseaudio> glitsj16: I thought it was always on, replaying ESD as a sound mixer
[18:53] <astro76> Pulseaudio: it looks safe, although pulseaudio-* will install some uneeded dbg packages
[18:53] <javagamer> Thanks for all your help. I'm off to the local hardware store.
[18:53] <cipher_nemo> h4mx0r, thermal compound isn't oil and baby powder :-P   it's metal powder in a semi-liquid form
[18:53] <WarPriest> I hate 800*600.
[18:53] <astro76> Pulseaudio: this is the problem with ubuntuguide, it doesn't tell you why, just how
[18:54] <Slart> Myrtti: is there any difference in performance etc between using a logical and a primary partition?
[18:54] <SuN13> flannel: i couldnt get the grub to boot to the other os...i think i am missing something... edit the menu.lst in grub directory do i need to edit the device.map....this this os is on a separate disk not its ntloader as  boot loader...
[18:54] <WarPriest> Arctic Silver 5 ftw
[18:54] <Henry_RHodes_III> Cafuegos custom pakages had b43 and my lt has xb63
[18:54] <Pulseaudio> y'know, so I have audio everywhere. I'm worried about libflashsupport though, I heard it'll fix flash's audio but break things
[18:54] <brad0722> question: Why does my audio/video sometimes play at a snails pace and other times not? (it's not cpu related) I'm using hardy.
[18:54] <Myrtti> Slart: I haven't looked into it that much
[18:54] <cipher_nemo> Artic Silver 5 is my fav
[18:54] <Jaikkuli> Myrtti: does formatting have much point? is it ok to use ext3 for everything or?
[18:54] <cipher_nemo> Arctic*
[18:54] <kitche> brad0722: most likely a codec issue
[18:54] <Pulseaudio> well, here's to finding out
[18:54] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: what graphics card do you have? maybe it only supports that resolution
[18:54] <WarPriest> Ok guys (and/or gals), how do i increase my resolution to 1280*1024?
[18:54]  * Pulseaudio does it
[18:55] <WarPriest> i have a 7600gs
[18:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> AS5 is definitely my choice - my fiancee's ath64 x2 doesn't get above 30 under load :D
[18:55] <Henry_RHodes_III> I need an ether net cable too I am screwed
[18:55] <Flannel> SuN13: Just editing the menu.lst.  What error did it give?  Also, you can try a bunch of things by editing the lines inside of the grub menu, just hit 'e' and you'll get dropped to an editor  (useful for trial and error)
[18:55] <Slart> WarPriest: did you read the link that ubotu sent you?
[18:55] <Jaikkuli> Myrtti: i have used both at different times with no problems.. and i have no preference.. but is there anything important that i should know?
[18:55] <WarPriest> uhh
[18:55] <Myrtti> Jaikkuli: if you've got a huuuuuuuuuuuge partition, then format that to xfs, fsck can be run for it even if it's mounted, that makes the booting process a bit faster
[18:55] <glitsj16> Pulseaudio: have you seen (and tried) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900 ?
[18:55] <axisys> is there a google desktop pkg for ubuntu repo? i see one in google's own site.. is that the preferred one to install should I choose to use google desktop ?
[18:55] <WarPriest> i didnt get it?
[18:55] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: uhh, changing the resolution via System-Preferences didn't work?
[18:55] <Slart> !res | WarPriest
[18:55] <ubot3`> WarPriest: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:55] <cipher_nemo> WarPriest, did you install NVIDIA restricted drivers or open source ones by default?
[18:55] <Pulseaudio> glitsj16: nope, new install here
[18:55] <moshe> WarPriest,what video brd,monitor do you have?
[18:55] <Jaikkuli> Myrtti: what is considered huge?
[18:55] <zetheroo> how do I get vncviewer working in hardy? what do I need to install?
[18:55] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: go to system admin, and hardware drivers
[18:55] <brad0722> kitche: what issue? Sometimes it will play fine and other times it crawls... very strange... also it doesn't matter *what player*, when its crawling it crawls in whatever I try and play it in
[18:56] <glitsj16> Pulseaudio: okay, it's worth it if you got some spare time to digest it all ..
[18:56] <Henry_RHodes_III> I saw  a video and I was too stupid to understand that
[18:56] <InvaderAmoto> Warpriest: then check off the driver thats listed there. you will need to reastart your computer after that.
[18:56] <Myrtti> Jaikkuli: My magic 8-ball says ">500G"
[18:56] <Pulseaudio> glitsj16: I will take a look at it, since that seems to fix flash audio
[18:56] <RadarG1> when I go into network settings It has point to point connection listed
[18:56] <kitche> brad0722: codec issue most likely the codecs you have installed are not meant to play the video/audio that it's playing
[18:56] <Myrtti> Jaikkuli: mutu-tieto
[18:56] <Slart> Jaikkuli: xfs is good for large files (I'd say 500MB and larger).. it's bad at deleting stuff. Ext3 is better when it comes to smaller files I think
[18:56] <Pulseaudio> (which is somewhat broken at the moment, I've come to understand
[18:56] <kitche> brad0722: or the codecs are not the best really
[18:56] <WarPriest> i installed teh nvidia drivers
[18:56] <Henry_RHodes_III> man this is like work
[18:56] <glitsj16> Pulseaudio: yes it does, basically install flash 10 beta from adobe and you're good
[18:57] <weeman13221> anyone in here familiar with ubuntu server
[18:57] <brad0722> kitche: if that was true, would it *sometimes work just fine*?
[18:57] <lealmape> hey
[18:57] <lealmape> somebody can help me?
[18:57] <Pulseaudio> I'm on 64bit though(though I have 32bit on another partition :))
[18:57] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[18:57] <axisys> !ask | weeman13221
[18:57] <ubot3`> weeman13221: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:57] <lealmape> i cant find bitchx on apt-cache search bitchx
[18:57] <ziclemente> hi
[18:57] <mDemocritus> that was weird... pidgin just artifacted and crashed on me....
[18:57] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: Tried installing the nvidia gpu program?
[18:57] <Slart> lealmape: it's been removed
[18:57] <Jaikkuli> Myrtti: :D okei
[18:57] <Henry_RHodes_III> ok
[18:57] <lealmape> OMG
[18:57] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: when u go to the change resolution app what are your choices?
[18:57] <Slart> lealmape: something about not being updated.. or packaging problems.. or security problems.. can't remember
[18:57] <lealmape> thank you
[18:57] <sarah_bear> hey guys, is there a good media player that displays the name of songs like itunes?
[18:58] <sarah_bear> i am streaming from a online radio station, any way to get it to display the song/artist like itunes does?
[18:58] <mr_daemon> Hello there. I have a stupid question -- I could have sworn that in earlier ubuntu releases, there was a way to "unlocalize" folder names in home, such as "Desktop". Where did that go?
[18:58] <RAdams> I have two aim accounts on pidgin. Does anyone know a way to merge the duplicate contacts? #pidgin is dead >.>
[18:58] <Jaikkuli> Slart: hmm.. well i guess maybe ext3 then.. even though i do have some big files
[18:58] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: go to applications->add/remove programs, search for nvidia
[18:58] <Slart> sarah_bear: amarok is considered nice by some people =)
[18:58] <fedagent> lol
[18:58] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: your monitor might not be detected properly
[18:58] <SuN13> flannel: i put for the os on the other disk hd1,0 and no error it just boots into my os located on hd0
[18:58] <cipher_nemo> Trying to do a sudo grub-install on /dev/sda1 (internal SSD), but I'm getting a message that rm can't remove /boot/grub/stage1 for read-only reasons. Do I need to run this while booted to a LiveCD or other bootable Linux instead of the currently installed Xubuntu?
[18:58] <Pulseaudio> warpriest: and install nvidia x server settings
[18:58] <Slart> Jaikkuli: go with ext3.. it's the safe, middleroad
[18:58] <WarPriest> how does i do that?
[18:58] <sarah_bear> slart i have used amarok but it doesnt display titles of songs that are streaming from a website
[18:58] <sarah_bear> it is formate .aspx
[18:58] <mDemocritus> sarah_bear: amarok, audacious, and rhythmbox should do that
[18:58] <weeman13221> i asked if anyone is familiar with  server i have 2 drives runnin in my tower right now one has ubuntu and windows and is a personal drive the other is a ubuntu server drive that im trying to get ready for a file server but its not reading and ethernet drivers and i need to put a gui to it
[18:58] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: go to applications->add/remove programs, search for nvidia and install nvidia x server settings module.
[18:59] <sarah_bear> ok mDemocritus let me try that
[18:59] <axisys> sarah_bear: mplayer may.. check with #mplayer
[18:59] <Henry_RHodes_III> O
[18:59] <Slart> sarah_bear: ah.. streaming songs.. hmm.. tried vlc? I think it's a streaming client originially
[18:59] <kitche> brad0722: yes depends on the video that is being played and such
[18:59] <thepheonixprojec> Hullo People
[18:59] <Henry_RHodes_III> hi
[18:59] <zetheroo> anyone?>
[18:59] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: next time you type a message can you include the person's name that you are sending it for. cause there are a few people trying to help you
[18:59] <cipher_nemo> sarah_bear, .aspx is a web file for Micro$oft ASP.NET format. It's the wrong file you're targeting
[18:59] <brad0722> kitche: hmm ok thanks
[18:59] <radic> exit
[18:59] <thepheonixprojec> Real Live Fellow Bashers...Good time
[18:59] <mr_daemon> Anyone? is there a way to revert the localization of folders in ~ to english?
[18:59] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: try to configure your display via that nvidia x server settings program
[19:00] <fedagent> is linux predominately jewish?
[19:00] <cipher_nemo> troll :-P
[19:00] <Starnestommy> !ot
[19:00] <ubot3`> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:00] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol   ok invaderAmoto
[19:00] <Jaikkuli> fedagent: lol
[19:00] <Slart> is this an emergency? =)
[19:00] <Myrtti> fedagent: final warning
[19:00] <axisys> sarah_bear: banshee
[19:00] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: does that work for you?
[19:00] <Myrtti> fedagent: one more miss and you're gone
[19:00] <SuN13> flannel: do i still need the makeactive for the other drive since its the only active partition on that hd
[19:00] <shepherd> wifi question!!!  i installed the nessasary drivers to get my wifi to work on my labtop.  it shows multiple wifi connections, but when i try to connect to my personal one it will not let me.  and after a few minuets all the connects dissapear
[19:00] <weeman13221> i asked if anyone is familiar with  server i have 2 drives runnin in my tower right now one has ubuntu and windows and is a personal drive the other is a ubuntu server drive that im trying to get ready for a file server but its not reading and ethernet drivers and i need to put a gui to it
[19:00] <fedagent> !ops | Myrtti
[19:00] <ubot3`> Myrtti: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01!
[19:00] <moshe> fedagent,was that supposed to be an intelligent question?
[19:00] <Flannel> SuN13: Are you sure you selected the right one?  If it boots the other OS, it means you're somehow booting that other one (grub doesn't have a 'default' fallback OS).  Perhaps the bootloader for Vista defaults to booting your XP partition?
[19:00] <Pulseaudio> oh SNAP
[19:01] <Henry_RHodes_III> ﻿(02:00:36 PM) shepherd: wifi question!!!  i installed the nessasary drivers to get my wifi to work on my labtop.  it shows multiple wifi connections, but when i try to connect to my personal one it will not let me.  and after a few minuets all the connects dissapear
[19:01] <Henry_RHodes_III> (02:00:37 PM) weeman13221: i asked if anyone is familiar with  server i have 2 drives runnin in my tower right now one has ubun
[19:01] <Henry_RHodes_III> I wish that was me
[19:01] <cipher_nemo> pwned
[19:01] <Pulseaudio> oh BURN
[19:01] <Slart> !dvd
[19:01] <ubot3`> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[19:01] <SuN13> flannel: i will do trial and error and she what happens..be back thanks
[19:01] <axisys> !wifi | shepherd
[19:01] <ubot3`> shepherd: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:02] <Henry_RHodes_III> Thank you sir
[19:02] <thepheonixprojec> Can anyone tell me what the commands are to compile a source file (C/C++) with gcc from terminal?  I went fro  using a GUI called MinGW Open Ide to comman line coding here in Ubuntu and am having trouble!
[19:02] <WarPriest> Pulseaudio: I have no idea. I just started using ubuntu today.
[19:02] <cipher_nemo> thepheonixprojec: are you trying to make and build?
[19:02] <weeman13221> Henry_Rhodes_III: the ubuntu server drive is one from school im doing for them for their file server they have no idea about ubuntu and im getting them going on it but its not reading ethernet drivers so i need to get up but for their system or if i can install all the gui and such with the server drive mounted on my ubuntu desktop
[19:02] <thepheonixprojec> yes
[19:02] <WarPriest> Pulseaudio: I came from the Windows side.
[19:02] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: what's the problem again? you have an nvidia card and you can't change the resolution properly?
[19:02] <Slart> thepheonixprojec: are you writing a program yourself? or compiling a downloaded one?
[19:02] <WarPriest> yes.
[19:02] <thepheonixprojec> Well I am writing my own code as I am learning C
[19:02] <realin_> hi guys, how do i start a batch file ?
[19:02] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: it's cool, I came from the windows side some time ago.
[19:03] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: so you installed the nvidia drivers, right? try installing nvidia x server settings too
[19:03] <thepheonixprojec> So writing my own slart
[19:03] <Slart> thepheonixprojec: there are lots and lots of info out there.. here's one small tutorial that'll get you started http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~beechung/ref/gcc-intro.html
[19:03] <RadarG1> Can anyone help me out with a NIC problem?
[19:03] <realin_> !batch file
[19:03] <ubot3`> Factoid batch file not found
[19:03] <realin_> !sh
[19:03] <thepheonixprojec> I have one source file saved to the desktop (Cos I figured it'd be easy to find there)
[19:03] <ubot3`> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:03] <mDemocritus> !ask | RadarG1
[19:03] <ubot3`> RadarG1: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:03] <Slart> thepheonixprojec: run this in a terminal first.. "sudo apt-get install build-essential".. it will setup the basic compiler stuff for you
[19:04] <thepheonixprojec> THANK YOU SLART
[19:04] <axisys> !google desktop
[19:04] <ubot3`> Factoid google desktop not found
[19:04] <derspankster> I cannot install nvidia-glx-new and get a screen
[19:04] <Henry_RHodes_III> Im still logging lol
[19:04] <realin_> quit
[19:04] <Pulseaudio> WarPriest: that help you any?
[19:04] <weeman13221> is anyone is familiar with  server i have 2 drives runnin in my tower right now one has ubuntu and windows and is a personal drive the other is a ubuntu server drive that im trying to get ready for a file server but its not reading and ethernet drivers and i need to put a gui to it
[19:04] <thepheonixprojec> One more question..I am running a spanking new (I built her) gaming rig...DDR#/X48/Quad Core the whole nine
[19:05] <Slart> thepheonixprojec: you're welcome.. and good luck with the programming
[19:05] <RadarG1> The problem that I'm having is that my NIC isnt being detected by xubuntu and worked fine when I had DSL linux installed
[19:05] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: could you maybe explain that more elaborately... that's like four sentences in one....
[19:05] <aguitel> is epson multifunction compatible with ubuntu ?
[19:05] <Henry_RHodes_III> ﻿2:04:18 PM) realin_: quit n     Sorry :)
[19:05] <thepheonixprojec> My realtek on board audio is not being picked up in Ubuntu...anyone know of any places I can look OTHER THAN THE UBUNTU FORUMS COS THEY HAVE BEEN OF NO HELP!
[19:05] <superfirelord43> if someone is having trouble with TimeVault, should they go here, or is there a seprate chanel they should go to..
[19:05] <astro76> aguitel: check on linuxprinting.org
[19:06] <Henry_RHodes_III> Is there a wireless channel
[19:06] <Henry_RHodes_III> There should be
[19:06] <Cyndre> yay - the wife installed ubuntu today
[19:06] <mDemocritus> RadarG1: desktop or laptop?
[19:06] <cipher_nemo> thepheonixprojec: do you have a sound card installed as well as the built-in Realtek chip?
[19:06] <mDemocritus> Cyndre: yay now you get to be tech support :D
[19:06] <InvaderAmoto> thepheonixprojec: i had problems with realtek before. apparently windows locks them up when u shut down so if u use windows unplug the computer for like 20 seconds then start it up in ubuntu and it should work fine
[19:06] <etronik> such a waste of time.... it's amazing
[19:06] <RadarG1> mDemocritus desktop
[19:06] <mDemocritus> Cyndre: that is, if anything goes wrong
[19:06] <cipher_nemo> thepheonixprojec: common problem for linux is to configure the sound card first instead of onboard
[19:06] <mDemocritus> RadarG1: try powering off the system, unplugging it for 30 sec, turn it back on
[19:06] <Cyndre> mDemocritus: don't think there will be a problem :)
[19:06] <Henry_RHodes_III> I am the only one here with a real name
[19:07] <cipher_nemo> thepheonixprojec: even if you remove it later
[19:07] <Cyndre> 0if you whois me it gives my real name
[19:07] <RadarG1> mDemocritus I did a restart and that didnt help
[19:07]  * jimcooncat is my real name
[19:07] <Henry_RHodes_III> cool
[19:07] <thepheonixprojec> CIPHER_NEM no I do not have a sound card-just the on board
[19:07] <moshe> Henry_RHodes_III that is not the case
[19:07] <mDemocritus> RadarG1: did you unplug it for 30 sec?
[19:07] <Henry_RHodes_III> thanks
[19:08] <shafire_> hey
[19:08] <shafire_> http://tinyurl.com/3zx429 <-- can you help me?
[19:08] <InvaderAmoto> thepheonixprojec: make sure you actually unplug the computer from the wall or if its a laptop take out the battery too. this will reset the realtek
[19:08] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: ok i have a tower right now with my normal personal hard drive in it runnin ubuntu and another drive that is from school that has ubuntu server 8.04 on it that i need to get runnin for a file server in the server environment when i boot into it, both on the computer at school its gonna be on and my own doesnt read ethernet drivers and thats bad because i need to put a gui on the server
[19:08] <shafire_> how does this site looks like=?
[19:08] <cipher_nemo> thepheonixprojec: are you trying to use ALSA drive?
[19:08] <cipher_nemo> driver*?
[19:08] <thepheonixprojec> I tried that-failed
[19:09] <cipher_nemo> and oss?
[19:09] <thepheonixprojec> My Driver is not Listed under The AlSA Dricers
[19:09] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: ack my brain! use periods please....
[19:09] <Henry_RHodes_III> I love the logging feature of irc
[19:09] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: what i wanna know is if i can mount the server drive in my ubuntu desktop and install the things to that drive using my ubuntu desktop like do u kinda get what i m trying to do?
[19:09] <thepheonixprojec> OSS?
[19:09] <pros977> which irc client do you all prefer?
[19:09] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: not quite....
[19:09] <Cyndre> Im just using gnome x-chat
[19:09] <Henry_RHodes_III> pidjin
[19:09] <WarPriest> Ok.
[19:09] <thepheonixprojec> When I checked my ALS.conf file-nothing...a bunch of errrors
[19:10] <cipher_nemo> Open Sound Syste,
[19:10] <WarPriest> I need more help. But, it's with my HD
[19:10] <InvaderAmoto> Henry_RHodes_III: i thought this chat is logged on the ubuntu website somewhere. so your wasting your time and computers space logging it
[19:10] <mDemocritus> pidgin cause i use it for jabber anyway
[19:10] <cipher_nemo> thepheonixprojec: have you seen this before? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO/x320.html#AEN415
[19:10] <tomasko> using firefox on ubuntu, it downloads flash videos into /tmp by default. how can i get that to work on a non-ubuntu system?
[19:10] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:10] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: ok i have a tower right now with my normal personal hard drive in it runnin ubuntu and another drive that is from school that has ubuntu server 8.04 on it.i need to get the server one runnin for a file server. in the server environment when i boot into it, both on the computer at school  and my own doesnt read ethernet drivers. and thats bad because i need to put a gui on the server.
[19:10] <Scunizi> weeman13221: you trying to have a desktop environment and programs on your server?
[19:11] <WarPriest> Guys, I have a secondary hard drive in my PC, right? I can't seem to mount it.
[19:11] <Henry_RHodes_III> cool
[19:11] <weeman13221> Scunizi: yes im tryin to put a gui but i dont have any ethernet drivers working on the server side right now im on my personal desktop
[19:11] <jimcooncat> tomasko: about:config in firefox will probably let you change it
[19:11] <tomasko> jimcooncat: okay, i'll check it out. thanks
[19:11] <WarPriest> I want to access it because of my music
[19:11] <etronik> why oh why... does the Wireless connection ONLY connect manually ? why can't it connect automatically ? anybody ?
[19:11] <RadarG1> mDemocritus it is powering up now
[19:11] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: does it show up in nautilus as a drive?
[19:11] <Liu> aew seus troxa
[19:11] <Henry_RHodes_III> not me
[19:11] <WarPriest> ?
[19:12] <cyrus_> how do I autostart samba?
[19:12] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: it's probably because the o/s on the server disk wasn't installed on the same type of computer.... probably had a different NIC
[19:12] <fserve> not me
[19:12] <Henry_RHodes_III> wow
[19:12] <cyrus_> I don't think it starts on boot
[19:12] <weeman13221> Scunzini: i wanted to see if i could install the gui and the drivers to the server side through my desktop
[19:12] <thepheonixprojec> CIPHER_NEMO no I have not..I will check it out...
[19:12] <Scunizi> weeman13221: is the server wireless? or are the ethernet drivers you need wireless? if so install the restricted drivers for server.. they are in the repos
[19:12] <tuna> I know the unicode codepoint of symbol, how can I insert it in a text editor?
[19:12] <Liu> samba eh seu rabo
[19:12] <Xorothal> !samba
[19:12] <ubot3`> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[19:12] <Liu> virus
[19:12] <Xorothal> !opera | Xorothal
[19:12] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:12] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: if you go to place, computer do you see it listed as a drive? it will show up as whatever number of GB's the drive is.
[19:12] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: try lspci | grep -i ethernet
[19:12] <cipher_nemo> thepheonixprojec: I hope that helps you. If not, feel free to send my a private message and I'll help you troubleshoot it.
[19:12] <thepheonixprojec> Okay wish me luck-it's really a little to hectic in here for me (I must be getting old at 26?!!!LOL)
[19:13] <Liu> nc -l -n -vv -p 80 > server.txt
[19:13] <Scunizi> weeman13221: to install a desktop on the server then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop.. I'd stick with ubuntu or xubuntu-desktop..
[19:13] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: that should tell you what type of ethernet card you have
[19:13] <cipher_nemo> thepheonixprojec: :-P that's young'
[19:13] <thepheonixprojec> I will be Back CIPHER_I'll Let you know!
[19:13] <cipher_nemo> k
[19:13] <WarPriest> InvaderAmoto: it shows up under the browser.
[19:13] <Rosen> how is it I take a screendump of a list of my devices and the drivers they use ?
[19:13] <Henry_RHodes_III> atheros
[19:14] <jimcooncat> gui on the server, ha! back in my day...
[19:14] <Henry_RHodes_III> rev 01
[19:14] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: ok then double click it. it should mount
[19:14] <abhinay> firefox scrolling is slow when using clearlooks theme, any suggestions ?
[19:14] <Jaikkuli> jimcooncat: :D
[19:14] <Scunizi> abhinay: change theme?
[19:14] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:14] <WarPriest> It wont mount
[19:14] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: just so you know in the future the standard browser that comes with ubuntu is called nautilus
[19:14] <moshe> jimcooncat,I cut my teeth on 80 col punch cards!
[19:14] <WarPriest> InvaderAmoto: i tried d-clicking it.
[19:14] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: what does it say?
[19:14] <abhinay> Scunizi, ya, i did. when i change theme it is normal. but i like clearlooks
[19:14] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:15] <Scunizi> InvaderAmoto: that's filemanager.. not browser
[19:15] <mDemocritus> !ask > mDemocritus
[19:15] <Henry_RHodes_III> ok
[19:15] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: i know but i still need to get the drivers but i cant get the drivers if i cant get out to the internet through the server side, right now im on my personal drive i wanted to know if there was a way i could install the gui and the drivers but through my current normal desktop side
[19:15] <WarPriest> InvaderAmoto: Cannot mount volume.
[19:15] <InvaderAmoto> Scunizi: well i assume his drive didnt show up in firefox. so that is the browser hes talking about
[19:15] <RadarG1> mDemocritus It didnt help. When I go to network settings shows a point to point connection
[19:15] <tomasko> jimcooncat: not seeing it there. perhaps it's a firefox 2 versus firefox 3 thing
[19:16] <InvaderAmoto> WarPriest: is that all it says?
[19:16] <tomasko> oh well, not interested enough to waste any more time on it
[19:16] <tomasko> later
[19:16] <Cyndre> lol
[19:16] <mDemocritus> !pm
[19:16] <ubot3`> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[19:16] <DIL> hey
[19:16] <jimcooncat> tomasko, sorry.
[19:16] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:16] <Myrtti> DIL: works.
[19:16] <WarPriest> InvaderAmoto: im gonna PM you.
[19:16] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: try putting in the same version cd
[19:16] <DIL> yes
[19:16] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:17] <Ward1983> i have a problem but i dont know how to explain it...
[19:17] <mDemocritus> RadarG1: pastebin ifconfig -a
[19:17] <Ward1983> it just seems liek gnome crashes
[19:17] <Henry_RHodes_III> thats me too
[19:17] <Henry_RHodes_III> I am mentally dissabled
[19:17] <Ward1983> if i open a terminal its empty, if i open gedit its empty, and so on
[19:17] <Rosen> here's a quick one... do I have to install windows drivers for using wine? ... or anything at all for that matter ;) .... never set up wine before and I'm new to linux
[19:18] <Ward1983> also audio doesnt work
[19:18] <Henry_RHodes_III> me too
[19:18] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: you'll need to enable the cd in /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:18] <Henry_RHodes_III> metoo
[19:18] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:18] <Ward1983> after a while i cant even click on stuff in gnome-panel
[19:18] <Ward1983> what the #@$ can be wrong?
[19:18] <Slart> Rosen: nope.. no drivers needed
[19:18] <Ward1983> im sick of this i need to reboot every few hours!
[19:18] <Henry_RHodes_III> I need to go back to windows 3.12
[19:18] <Ward1983> im better off with windows even ! :s
[19:18] <cipher_nemo> you mean 3.11
[19:18] <Henry_RHodes_III> true
[19:18] <Slart> Rosen: just install it and you should be good to do.. you'll have to install the windows software you want to run, of course.. but that's it
[19:19] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: i tried doing that already and for some reason it still never worked
[19:19] <Cyndre> Ward1983: Sorry to hear that - 8.04?
[19:19] <Storm|nix> Is there a way to get windows usb drivers to work in linux using wine?
[19:19] <cipher_nemo> I actually have it installed and functioning, believe it or not ;-)
[19:19] <_JuAn_> hello
[19:19] <Agion> Can somebody help me with my video card driver, my fps is really low with fgrlx and I want to get this to work faster. Im using ATI x1950...
[19:19] <Ward1983> Cyndre, correct, 64bit
[19:19] <RadarG1> mDemocritus I cant paste anything in its a seperate box the only thing shown using ifconfig -a is lo loopback
[19:19] <Storm|nix> opps wrong channel sorry
[19:19] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:19] <Cyndre> Ward1983: Have you done all your updates?
[19:19] <Rosen> Slart: ah loovely ... so just gotta go buy NVN then :)
[19:19] <cipher_nemo> http://2geek.org ... the latest entries there are for my mod with dos 6.22 and win 3.11
[19:19]  * jimcooncat thinks Ward1983 may have memory problems
[19:19] <shafire_> http://tinyurl.com/3zx429 <-- can you help me? <-- how does this site look like? :)
[19:19] <Henry_RHodes_III> I loved dos
[19:20] <Slart> Rosen: yup.. or.. wait.. didn't nwn come with a linux client??
[19:20] <Rosen> I still need the cdkey ;)
[19:20] <Ward1983> Cyndre, yep
[19:20] <Henry_RHodes_III> me too
[19:20] <Ward1983> jimcooncat, how to test?
[19:20] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: you sure it doesn't load the driver? what's ifconfig -a tell you?
[19:20] <RadarG1> mDemocritus I do have link lights on the switch and NIC
[19:20] <Rosen> Slart: also I found a guide to installing from the CD's that seems MUCH easier than the one Bioware wants me to use
[19:21] <cipher_nemo> DOS rocks, lol... so simple. Only true suckage is for devs to program for a specific hardware (ie: GPUs, sound, etc.)
[19:21] <Cyndre> Ward1983: Dual monitors or no?  I notice that one of my x-sessions slows down with dual monitors - and if not have you tried the 32 bit version
[19:21] <jimcooncat> Ward1983: if you enter grub on boot, there may be a memory test right there, Mem86 I believe is the name of it
[19:21] <moshe> later,folks
[19:21] <Henry_RHodes_III> true
[19:21] <Ward1983> Cyndre, just one monitor
[19:21] <Agion> ﻿Can somebody help me with my video card driver, my fps is really low with fgrlx and I want to get this to work faster. Im using ATI x1950...
[19:21] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: pastebin ifconfig -a for me
[19:21] <Ward1983> jimcooncat, correct
[19:21] <q4a> hi all, how can i print booklet?
[19:21] <cyrus_> weird
[19:21] <Ward1983> jimcooncat, its not possible to do from within the gui?
[19:21] <cipher_nemo> Agion: using Wine or Linux games?
[19:21] <cyrus_> my external isn't even being seen
[19:21] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: cant do that im not in server right now, told u im in my personal ubuntu side
[19:21] <Slart> Rosen: ah. sounds nice.. hope with works for you.. check the application database for any tricks and tips to get it running smoothly (appdb.winehq.org)
[19:22] <Ward1983> Cyndre, jimcooncat also: this problem jsut came all of a sudden, its possible it was an update
[19:22] <jimcooncat> Ward1983: not that kind of test. But you have enough ram?
[19:22] <Ward1983> jimcooncat, 4GB... lol
[19:22] <Agion> cipher_nemo: Im using compiz and I want to watch movies on full screen...
[19:22] <Henry_RHodes_III> holy crap
[19:22] <axisys> !banshee
[19:22] <ubot3`> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[19:22] <cyrus_> now it won't even turn on...
[19:22] <sTiVo> I have a problem with my clock since I applied the latest Ubuntu 7,1.0 upgrades.
[19:22] <etronik> Guys, why is it that Ubuntu only sees and connects my Wifi Card when in roaming mode ?? as sson as I configured it for a static IP addr , nothing happens , co connection, no interface detection
[19:22] <cyrus_> that can't be good....
[19:22] <jimcooncat> Ward1983:  So you're running 64-bit?
[19:22] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:22] <Ward1983> jimcooncat, correct
[19:22] <Ward1983> i allready said that :)
[19:23] <troxor> sTiVo: what kind of problem?
[19:23] <Rosen> Slart: yep I did and saved the hints ... I'm usually offline you see.
[19:23] <RadarG1> mDemocritus The NIC is ISA if that matters
[19:23] <Henry_RHodes_III> me too
[19:23] <Agion> ciphet_nemo: and if I'm playing im playing wine, but I play quite rarely on linux...
[19:23] <cipher_nemo> Agion: movies, as in DVDs, mpegs, or some other format?
[19:23] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: shouldn't
[19:23] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: shouldnt what?
[19:23] <Rampage> Hi, i need some help, somehow firefox 3b5 is not starting up
[19:23] <Agion> cipher_nemo: any movies, my fps with fgrlx is like 200
[19:23] <jimcooncat> sorry Ward1983 got to the game late. Nothing is scarfing up your memory that you can see in top or System Monitor?
[19:23] <Slart> Rampage: tried starting it in safe mode?
[19:24] <Rampage> i see the firefox process running when u run ps
[19:24] <cipher_nemo> Agion: are you using Totem or some other plalyer?
[19:24] <weeman13221> mDemocritus, my home tower is not the tower its gonna be running on once its done being configured
[19:24] <cipher_nemo> player*
[19:24] <sTiVo> I have to set my clock to "use UTC" in order to show the correct LOCAL time.
[19:24] <Rampage> How can I start it in safe mode Slart
[19:24] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: i'm at a loss... try spending some more time on google, look for install network drivers
[19:24] <Slart> Rampage: from a terminal, run "firefox -safe-mode"
[19:24] <Agion> cipher_nemo: its not about the movies, the whole system lags much...
[19:24] <Ward1983> jimcooncat, 443.1MB is used atm
[19:24] <jimcooncat> Ward1983: and you got at least a little swap?
[19:24] <Ward1983> jimcooncat, i got a swap of 6GB
[19:24] <Henry_RHodes_III> I almost dropped my laptop
[19:24] <Slart> Rampage: I think it skips your add-ons and such..
[19:24] <Ward1983> jimcooncat, 8 was a little over the top :)
[19:25] <weeman13221> mDemocritus, been there done that i just need some way to install the driver if i can get the files
[19:25] <Rampage> Oh, okay trying now Slart
[19:25] <jimcooncat> Well that's not it unless your box is overheating
[19:25] <cipher_nemo> Agion: if it's the whole PC, then it might not be related to video drivers or x's config. Or is it just lag when moving around windows, etc.?
[19:25] <Rampage> Slart: I get nothing, no response from terminal
[19:25] <Ward1983> :S huh
[19:25] <Slart> Rampage: and no firefox, I assume
[19:25] <glitsj16> Rampage: run "killall firefox" from a terminal first, to get rid of any firefox processes out there
[19:25] <Rampage> Slart: I am able to load up firefox 2 normally
[19:25] <Ward1983> i receive mote bytes / second then i should receive
[19:25] <Ward1983> liek WAY more
[19:26] <donsolo> wow, is this really for Ubuntu support?
[19:26] <troxor> sTiVo: set the machine clock to whatever timezone you want, either UTC or local, then set up NTP- `ntpdate pool.ntp.org` is a quick fix
[19:26] <Storm|nix> anyone here know how to get the TiLP2 usb drivers to work?
[19:26] <Rampage> Slart: there are no firefox processes running
[19:26] <jimcooncat> donsolo: yeah, cool huh?
[19:26] <Slart> sTiVo: linux and windows uses the hardware clock a bit different.. but you might already know that
[19:26] <donsolo> very cool
[19:26] <Henry_RHodes_III> how do I scan for 802.11g
[19:26] <donsolo> I'm kind of a linux n00b so...
[19:26] <Rampage> Slart: I was surprised I got no results for "locate firefox-bin"
[19:26] <Slart> Rampage: hmm..no error messages either?
[19:26] <Agion> ciepher_nemo: Wihtout the 3D fgrlx it runs well, but with it it lags, i think its pretty much to due with my graphic card drivers...
[19:26] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: what kind of stuff do you have running on the server?
[19:26] <Rampage> no error either Slart
[19:27] <trofhacker> eh quelque speak french,,
[19:27] <Slart> Rampage: try running "pkill firefox; pkill npviewer.bin"... then try again
[19:27] <jimcooncat> donsolo: we usually just ask questions and give answers, so just shoot it out there
[19:27] <Slart> !fr | trofhacker
[19:27] <ubot3`> trofhacker: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[19:27] <trofhacker> slt
[19:27] <Henry_RHodes_III> linksys sucks
[19:27] <punzada> any suggestion on streaming audio through a LAN?
[19:27] <sTiVo> My point is that none of this was a problem until I installed the latest ubuntu upgrades.  Previously, I did not need to select "use UTC" to show the correct time and now I do.
[19:27] <punzada> i'd rather not have to have local copies of my music
[19:27] <trofhacker> aller moin vite merci ^^
[19:27] <donsolo> well is there any like skins to make this thing prettier than it is already?
[19:27] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: nothing it was a fresh install
[19:27] <troxor> sTiVo: I didn't do it, I'm just here to help :x
[19:27] <Rampage> Slart: Nothing again
[19:27] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: im just trying to get a stable good working ubuntu file server for them
[19:28] <sTiVo> thank you.
[19:28] <Slart> punzada: why stream? why not map a drive and play it from that mapped drive?
[19:28] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:28] <Rampage> I even tried a reinstall of firefox3 but nothing
[19:28] <sTiVo> I wasn't accusing you.  I was wondering how to find out if this is a bug.
[19:28] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: use a different ethernet card then :D
[19:28] <Slart> Rampage: hmm.. nothing in the syslog either?
[19:28] <Pulseaudio> Hey guys, is there any way for me to check out my cpu temps?
[19:28] <AaronH> can be a little more specific donsolo. You want a skin for your irc program?
[19:28] <punzada> slart, good idea! I'm a bit slow today :)
[19:28] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:28] <Rampage> Slart: Let me ckeck
[19:28] <Henry_RHodes_III> :-D
[19:28] <glitsj16> Rampage: what errors do you get when trying to start firefox in a terminal ?
[19:28] <oxyrosis> just us
[19:28] <Pulseaudio> Preferably a cool, awesome looking/feeling method that isn't annoying
[19:28] <weeman13221> mDemocritus yeah but then theres the matter of what one will work lol
[19:28] <Slart> Pulseaudio: there are a couple of sensor packages.. lmsensors is one I think
[19:28] <jimcooncat> donsolo, many many. http://www.gnome-look.org/ is a fun place to check out
[19:28] <Rampage> and i get no errors whatsoever Slart
[19:28] <Slart> !info lmsensors | Pulseaudio
[19:28] <ubot3`> pulseaudio: Package lmsensors does not exist in hardy
[19:29] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: lspci | grep -i ethernet will show if it's being detected at all
[19:29] <Flannel> !afk > gardar`afk
[19:29] <Pulseaudio> whassat, Slart?
[19:29] <francesco> Hi guys, what kind of tool do you advice me to make GUI  application for Ubuntu?
[19:29] <Henry_RHodes_III> it is
[19:29] <troxor> sTiVo: personally, my upgrade didn't shift over the timezones
[19:29] <Slart> !info lm-sensors | Pulseaudio
[19:29] <ubot3`> pulseaudio: lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:3.0.0-4ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 200 kB, installed size 764 kB
[19:29] <Henry_RHodes_III> come fix it
[19:29] <troxor> sTiVo: perhaps it was a discrepancy between the software and hardware clock?
[19:29] <s_spiff> guys.. need help with Ethernet Card issues : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=814701
[19:29] <cn28h> francesco, you may want to be a little more specific.. for instance what language are you using?
[19:29] <Rampage> Slart: syslog has only munin and cron logs for the last 50 lines
[19:29] <jimcooncat> francesco: fastest way if you don't need much is bash and zenity
[19:29] <sTiVo> I don't think so.
[19:30] <Pulseaudio> Slart: I found package X Sensors which uses lm-sensors. Thank that one's good? (from add/remove apps)
[19:30] <Slart> Pulseaudio: forgot the little dash there.. it's a pretty boring text mode app.. but there are other, more shiny apps that can present it to you.. !conky and such
[19:30] <francesco> cn28h: I use C. GCC compiler.
[19:30] <Pulseaudio> !conky
[19:30] <ubot3`> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.9-4 (hardy), package size 166 kB, installed size 496 kB
[19:30] <sTiVo> There was no problem prior to the install, then there was.  And I do look at my clock frequently.
[19:30] <Slart> Pulseaudio: that will work too
[19:30] <cn28h> francesco, then I'd say try GTK+
[19:30] <Rampage> its strange though that firefox2 loads up fine
[19:30] <shepherd> for wireless to work?  it says ESSID:off/any     ........ does this need to be on for it to connect?
[19:30] <cn28h> francesco, and you can use Glade with it
[19:30] <Pulseaudio> hmm
[19:30] <jimcooncat> francesco: for more robust you may want to look at python and wxWidgets, or my favorite tcl/tk
[19:30] <francesco> cn28h: Have you ever tried it?
[19:30] <Agion> ﻿Can somebody help me with my video card driver, my fps is really low with fgrlx and I want to get this to work faster. Im using ATI x1950...
[19:30] <s_spiff> anyone with experience in realtek ethernet cards or two ethernet cards setup.. please help me out in this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=814701
[19:30] <Henry_RHodes_III> I hate working for a hoby
[19:30] <Pulseaudio> none in the add/remove apps though
[19:30] <cn28h> francesco, only played with it a little
[19:30] <Slart> Rampage: hmm.. hard to troubleshoot when there are no error messages.. perhaps try a reinstall?
[19:30] <sTiVo> what is the ubuntu bug database URL?   I might want to file something there.
[19:30] <Henry_RHodes_III> hoby
[19:30] <Slart> Rampage: of firefox .. not ubuntu =)
[19:31] <Slart> !bug | sTiVo
[19:31] <ubot3`> sTiVo: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[19:31] <Rampage> Slart: I tried a reinstall, it did it fine but still nothing
[19:31] <sTiVo> thanks
[19:31] <donsolo> ok so I downloaded something that looks cool
[19:31] <troxor> Slart: ew, who reinstalls a non-windows OS to fix problems? :)
[19:31] <indio> Hi.
[19:31] <setite> anyone use pfsense who can answer a quick question for me.. no one is answering in their channel
[19:31] <donsolo> and it's got a bunch of .png and .xcf files
[19:31] <francesco> cn28h: Is Glade something like Visual Basic?
[19:31] <jimcooncat> francesco: you have many options. WxWidgets makes a nice cross-platform package you can probably use easily from C
[19:31] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:31] <Slart> Pulseaudio: the add/remove thingy only shows a small subset of all apps available by default.. try synaptic for the full experience =)
[19:31] <indio> Where is a list of the packages I installed with apt-get myself ?
[19:32] <cn28h> francesco, no.. it's a GUI designer tool for use with GTK+ -- see google ;P
[19:32] <kitche> setite: umm that not even linux based
[19:32] <s_spiff> anyone here can help me out with dual ethernet card setup??
[19:32] <Pulseaudio> s_spiff: yeah I have that probletoo I think
[19:32] <Rampage> I'm finding it surprising I can't locate firefox-bin on my system
[19:32] <Henry_RHodes_III> that would be cool
[19:32] <Pulseaudio> It works when it's on roaming mode and dhcp for me though s_spiff
[19:32] <Slart> troxor: hehe..
[19:32] <Pulseaudio> but I need a static non-dhcp ip
[19:32] <legend2440> Rampage: have yo tried in terminal /usr/bin/firefox-3.0
[19:32] <Henry_RHodes_III> load balancing
[19:32] <shepherd> it says ESSID:off/any     ........ does this need to be on for wifi to work??!??!?!?!
[19:32] <s_spiff> Pulseaudio: umm.. which means no static ip na?
[19:32] <noobuntu> hello
[19:32] <Slart> Rampage: is it even called that these days? have you run "sudo updatedb" =
[19:32] <Slart> ?
[19:32] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: so then ill keep that in mind
[19:32] <francesco> cn28h: Thank you very much!
[19:32] <s_spiff> Pulseaudio: how do u do that? as in get it to work in any way?
[19:32] <Pulseaudio> s_spiff: for me, that is
[19:32] <cn28h> francesco, np
[19:33] <NelsonM> anyone know of a dedicated hosting provider who's been good to the Ubuntu community? I'm shopping for a new server host.
[19:33] <Pulseaudio> s_spiff: I just turn roaming mode on.
[19:33] <Slart> Rampage: I don't have an firefox-bin either..
[19:33] <Rampage> legend2440: yes i have, firefox and firefox-3.0 start a firefox process but no gui loads
[19:33] <kitche> setite: should ask your pfsense question in one of the BSD channels
[19:33] <Pulseaudio> I have two ethernet ports myself, both onboard however.
[19:33] <shepherd> it says ESSID:off/any     ........ does this need to be on for wifi to work??!??!?!?!
[19:33] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: it might just be some obscure NIC that nobody's written a driver for
[19:33] <s_spiff> Pulseaudio: but then that'll deleted your ip settings .. won't it?
[19:33] <Rampage> firefox-2 loads the browser gui
[19:33] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:33] <Rampage> Slart: okay that explains why i don't have it
[19:33] <trident523> I can't hit backspace in awn... help?
[19:33] <setite> kitche: true but you guys are helpful and i figured there wasnt a debian solution so that someone must be using it
[19:33] <Rosen> anyone know of a linuxport of a decent 3d adventure game?
[19:33] <Pulseaudio> s_spiff: yeah which is why it's sorta down atm, I can't use it atm
[19:33] <weeman13221> mDemocritus its runnin on a dell bought server normally the server drive
[19:33] <glitsj16> Rampage: have you tried running "firefox-3" from terminal ?
[19:33] <Pulseaudio> so yeah I still have that problem of yours
[19:33] <Henry_RHodes_III> what root
[19:33] <setite> or is there a debian/ubuntu routing os
[19:33] <Rampage> glitsj16: yes i have
[19:34] <shepherd> it says ESSID:off/any     ........ does this need to be on for wifi to work??!??!?!?!
[19:34] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: but it has an ISA ethernet card?
[19:34] <Slart> Rosen: well.. nethack is 3d.. you can dig and climb ;)
[19:34] <weeman13221> mDemocritus but dell doesnt have a ubuntu driver. they have red hat and suse
[19:34] <kitche> setite: myself I use just pf by it self
[19:34] <noobuntu> need help with upgrade. i'm getting various problems each time i try to upgrade
[19:34] <s_spiff> Pulseaudio: lol okies... damn, this setup used to work fine for me before, dunno why its giving me issues on heron!
[19:34] <Henry_RHodes_III> that cool
[19:34] <Starnestommy> shepherd: in most cases, it has to be set
[19:34] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: ISA?
[19:34] <setite> kitche  pf? is that diff than pfsense?
[19:34] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: a linux drive is a linux driver, usually.... depends on the kernel, not usually the distro
[19:34] <Slart> Rosen: but seriously.. no.. no good free 3d, adventure games that I know of.. try !games.. see if ubotu has any suggestions
[19:34] <Henry_RHodes_III> pci
[19:34] <Rosen> Slart: hehe well .... lets just say I'm done with nethack :P
[19:34] <glitsj16> Rampage: checked .xsession-errors to see whether anything firefox related is in there ?
[19:34] <Pulseaudio> s_spiff: actually It worked fine on heron, but at one point it stopped to work
[19:34] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:34] <Rosen> !games
[19:34] <ubot3`> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[19:34] <Rampage> glitsj16: Ok i'll check now
[19:35] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: you said the NIC was ISA....
[19:35] <Pulseaudio> I assume it's got something to do with dhcp on the router, but that's in my case and I could be wrong
[19:35] <noobuntu> !upgrade
[19:35] <ubot3`> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:35] <s_spiff> Pulseaudio: ohhh ok.. no idea how?
[19:35] <Henry_RHodes_III> pci
[19:35] <kitche> setite: pf is what pfsense is built around
[19:35] <Pulseaudio> Nope
[19:35] <s_spiff> crap!
[19:35] <kitche> setite: pfsense is just a frontend really to pf
[19:35] <Agion> Can anybody help, I have sometihng wrong with my fgrlx, it just doesn't run properly and  my fps with it is like 100.. Can anyone help me??
[19:35] <legend2440> Rampage: have you tried gksu /usr/bin/firefox-3.0
[19:35] <mnem0> NelsonM: dreamhost.com uses debian which is pretty close
[19:35] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:35] <weeman13221> mDemocritus well its the latest download from ubuntu for server and i never said isa i dont even  know what isa is its a onboard nic from a dell server
[19:35] <Slart> Rosen: try googling for "happy penguin games".. if that still exists.. it's a big database of linux games
[19:35] <Rampage> .xsession_errors has nothing about firefox
[19:35] <Henry_RHodes_III> cool
[19:35] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: what chipset does the motherboard have?
[19:35] <setite> ahhh ok
[19:35] <Rampage> i'll try running it as root legend2440
[19:36] <Darlok_Williams> I just used the LiveCD to delete my Ubuntu partitions from a laptop (with Windows XP also installed) then resized the Windows partition to use the whole disk.  However, I can no longer boot into Windows.  How do I setup Grub to automatically boot Windows?
[19:36] <setite> do oyu load balance kitche
[19:36] <Cyndre> What do you guys think of this for a buisness idea (all comps come running ubuntu) http://pastebin.com/d57737723
[19:36] <Henry_RHodes_III> I dont know
[19:36] <troxor> Agion: are you using restricted drivers?
[19:36] <Henry_RHodes_III> yes
[19:36] <Agion> troxor: yes
[19:36] <eboyjr> It needs a USB 3.0 prt
[19:36] <eboyjr> port*
[19:37] <Rampage> legend2440: loads up under root
[19:37] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:37] <jimcooncat> Darlok_Williams needs help with reinstalling windows mbr, I don't recall, it's been soooo long
[19:37] <eboyjr> or its no good
[19:37] <Slart> usb 3.0 ??
[19:37] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: sorry... RadarG1 said he had an ISA nic... thought it was you
[19:37] <eboyjr> yeah
[19:37] <eboyjr> look it up
[19:37] <FloodBot3> eboyjr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:37] <troxor> Agion: can you put the output of 'glxinfo` on pastebin?
[19:37] <eboyjr> Thank you FloodBot3
[19:37] <legend2440> Rampage: permissions problem?
[19:37] <Rosen> Slart: yeah but I havent been very lucky with those sites ;) .... I guess I will try to install morrowind on wine instead
[19:37] <Rampage> legend2440: I don't think so, i have been using it for a while now
[19:37] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: cheching on dell's website now
[19:37] <Rampage> legend2440: I was using it earlier today too
[19:37] <troxor> Rosen: check out neverball/neverputt
[19:37] <Slart> Rosen: morrowind is a .. well.. it's far from the windows experience in wine.. playable.. but not much more than that
[19:37] <Henry_RHodes_III> hackers
[19:38] <troxor> Rosen: or enemy territory
[19:38] <torroella> hello how can i fit the up bar
[19:38] <jimcooncat> Darlok_Williams: sorry I misread. you still have Grub  installed?
[19:38] <Agion> http://pastebin.ca/1036084
[19:38] <Slart> Rosen: try some of the older games.. perhaps not as old as eye of the beholder and such.. but Fallout 2 perhaps
[19:38] <Darlok_Williams> jimcooncat: Yes... it gives Error 22 when trying to boot.
[19:38] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: did you install ubuntu on that server, or did you install it on a different box and move the hard drive over?
[19:38] <Henry_RHodes_III> I love Ubuntu
[19:38] <eboyjr> I hate Ubuntu
[19:38] <eboyjr> lol jk
[19:38] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:39] <troxor> Agion: you're not using the accelerated drivers ;)
[19:39] <weeman13221> installed while on that server and then i moved the hard drive to my home tower this weekend to work on it if i could
[19:39] <jsestri2> is there a way to cancel menu shortcut keys for vinagre?
[19:39] <Darlok_Williams> Henry_RHodes_III: You must be new to Linux :)
[19:39] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:39] <Agion> oh, ok :D
[19:39] <troxor> Agion: check out line 27/28
[19:39] <ingo86> hi
[19:39] <sicks> disconnect
[19:39] <Rosen> I have that
[19:39] <eboyjr> If someone walks in on me when I'm doing my private stuff, I can just Ctrl+Alt+Right Arrow
[19:39] <biopod> dual monitor-command line help please. I'm want to start a program in the other monitor, either 0 or 1, how can I do it?
[19:39] <Henry_RHodes_III> you guys are a nice crowd
[19:39] <Darlok_Williams> Henry_RHodes_III: You'll go through an "awe" stage, then a "I fricken hate this linux crap!"... then you'll learn more and return to "awe" :P
[19:39] <deadlyallance703> is there a ubuntu version for makeing a router out of a pc
[19:39] <Agion> troxor: yes?
[19:39] <Rosen> troxor: I have it and it's very very frustrating :P
[19:39] <julle> Starnestommy: i downloaded and burned a new copy of hardy but i've got the same BusyBox again
[19:39] <Henry_RHodes_III> true
[19:39] <Henry_RHodes_III> very true
[19:40] <troxor> Agion: Mesa is software acceleration
[19:40] <mDemocritus> Darlok_Williams: that's kinda funny... i hated it for the three weeks that it took me to install gentoo... but i learned so much i love it now :D
[19:40] <Starnestommy> julle: what about the alternate cd?
[19:40] <reppypepp1> How do i check what type of filesystem i have
[19:40] <troxor> Agion: you want the vendor of your card on that line
[19:40] <Agion> ok
[19:40] <Henry_RHodes_III> gentoo is hard
[19:40] <etronik> I wonder... I really wonder why I still insist on using Linux so much.... I really enjoy the idea of it... but the time I burn for nothing is tremendous
[19:40] <Slart> deadlyallance703: you could install the stuff yourself.. I haven't seen a finished product like those "router on a cd" distros
[19:40] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: installed while on that server and then i moved the hard drive to my home tower this weekend to work on it if i could
[19:40] <jimcooncat> Darlok_Williams: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[19:40] <Agion> ok
[19:40] <Henry_RHodes_III> cool
[19:40] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: that's why...
[19:40] <julle> Starnestommy: havent tried that one, why do you think that the alternate would work
[19:40] <Rampage> I seem to be able to load firefox2 just fine, so i doubt the profile could have an error
[19:40] <reppypepp1> is it ext2 ext 3 journalised fs?
[19:40] <trident523> Any idea why I couldn't backspace?
[19:40] <reppypepp1> how can i find out
[19:41] <Henry_RHodes_III> I love this
[19:41] <julle> i've ran hardy on a live cd before on this computer
[19:41] <troxor> reppypepp1: ext3 = ext2 + journal
[19:41] <Starnestommy> julle: it has less hardware-dependent stuff in it
[19:41] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: any way you can keep it live back at school or wherever, and ssh into it?
[19:41] <reppypepp1> troxor, how can i easily check it
[19:41] <Darlok_Williams> jimcooncat: Hmm... after a quick scan, I didn'
[19:41] <Darlok_Williams> jimcooncat: didn't see anything that tells how to completely remove Ubuntu and just go back to Windows (it's for a neighbor, not me :)
[19:41] <Henry_RHodes_III> I have a hard time loosing wieght
[19:41] <reppypepp1> some simple command
[19:41] <reppypepp1> ?
[19:41] <monkeypaw201> what channel can i get help with mysql?
[19:42] <Starnestommy> monkeypaw201: #mysql
[19:42] <troxor> reppypepp1: not that I know off offhand, one sec
[19:42] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:42] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:42] <reppypepp1> maybe reboot and it will state it at some point?
[19:42] <Henry_RHodes_III> true
[19:43] <Henry_RHodes_III> I like the cure
[19:43] <troxor> reppypepp1: you can try umounting and mounting it again, maybe it will say.
[19:43] <Pulseaudio> Anyone here running on an amdx264 machine? Are you able to enable cpu scaling in ubuntu 8.04?
[19:43] <Jaikkuli> whats the terminal command for emptying trash?
[19:43] <jimcooncat> Darlok_Williams: if it's vista here's a much better site:
[19:43] <jimcooncat> http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux
[19:43] <Slart> Pulseaudio: yes and yes
[19:43] <soundray> Darlok_Williams: you can use gparted from the live CD to remove the Ubuntu partitions and resize the Windows partition to occupy the free space
[19:43] <troxor> Jaikkuli: rm ~/.local/share/Trash or somesuch
[19:43] <eboyjr> Slart: USB 3.0's speed is around 4.8 Gbits/ sec
[19:43] <Henry_RHodes_III> I love linux
[19:43] <Darlok_Williams> soundray: That's what I did... but I'm stuck on Grub not booting windows.  DO I need to use the Windows XP disc to fix that?
[19:43] <Henry_RHodes_III> I love stallman
[19:43] <soundray> Darlok_Williams: yes
[19:43] <Pulseaudio> Slart: I get this message that I am unable to use cpu scaling when I add the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor to the panel
[19:43] <Henry_RHodes_III> I love you guys
[19:43] <Jaikkuli> ﻿rm ~/.local/share/Trash is this how i empty my trash?
[19:44] <Darlok_Williams> soundray: You happen to know the command for the recovery console?
[19:44] <trident523> Henry_RHodes_III: We love you too.
[19:44] <Slart> Pulseaudio: you might have to install something.. hmm.. hang on
[19:44] <Pulseaudio> Does that work for you, Slart ?
[19:44] <soundray> Darlok_Williams: if you don't have one, you can use any DOS rescue CD/floppy
[19:44] <Henry_RHodes_III> thanks
[19:44] <Henry_RHodes_III> I used to have a trident
[19:44] <Slart> Pulseaudio: yes.. I have two of those running..
[19:44] <Pulseaudio> (or is this something due to CnQ possibly being not turned on?)
[19:44] <kappaccino> if I had to pick up a book from a (you know) bookstore, does anyone have any recommendations about ubuntu books / linux file system?
[19:44] <Henry_RHodes_III> vga
[19:44] <troxor> Jaikkuli: or just cd to .local/share/Trash/ and look at it ;)
[19:44] <Pulseaudio> Two of them? for the two cores?
[19:44] <soundray> Darlok_Williams: no, but IIRC, there is a menu option for repairing the master boot record.
[19:44] <atlef> Darlok_Williams: i think it is fixmbr or fixboot
[19:45] <Slart> Pulseaudio: yes.. .one for each core.. I couldn't decide which core I wanted to look at =)
[19:45] <Henry_RHodes_III> Irc is addicting
[19:45] <troxor> kappaccino: o'reilly's stuff is usually good, though there might be better, or might be worse
[19:45] <soundray> Darlok_Williams: in DOS, it's fdisk /fixmbr
[19:45] <Jaikkuli> troxor: well for some reason it is not letting me delete some files.. dunno why but some files do not have te permission and i cannot change it
[19:45] <Jaikkuli> troxor: so i planned to do it as root
[19:45] <torroella> how do i fit the up bar to use all the up space?????????????'
[19:45] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:45] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: ummmmm dunno no network connectivity, need to get drivers for ethernet to work then after that im just dandy for everything else
[19:45] <legend2440> Jaikkuli:  ﻿rm ~/.local/share/Trash will remove the Trash folder   ﻿rm ~/.local/share/Trash/* removes the files inside
[19:45] <Myrtti> Henry_RHodes_III: do we know ;-) Myrtti aka Online on IRC since 1996
[19:45] <Darlok_Williams> soundray: Thank you.
[19:45] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: thanks
[19:45] <Henry_RHodes_III> not realy
[19:45] <saxin> Will I get any problems if I try installing Ubuntu 8.04 on a macbook?
[19:45] <Rampage> oh dear, seems i have to restart X
[19:45] <Pulseaudio> Hmm
[19:45] <Henry_RHodes_III> I
[19:45] <Henry_RHodes_III> I always want more
[19:46] <Rampage> somethings gone terribly worng
[19:46] <Pulseaudio> Maybe I'll have to install some stuff eh?
[19:46] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: but it works on the original system?
[19:46] <soundray> saxin: not necessarily
[19:46] <troxor> torroella: right click -> properties, tick the "Expand" box
[19:46] <saxin> soundray: is it tested?
[19:46] <Pulseaudio> I'll check on CnQ first I suppose, it might not be turned on. Them bios makers always disable it by default >:(
[19:46] <Slart> Pulseaudio: I'm looking through the list of stuff I've got installed.. see if I can find what it was
[19:46] <soundray> saxin: I suggest you look up some installation reports first, though. E.g. on tuxmobil.org
[19:46] <Henry_RHodes_III> cnq
[19:46] <torroella> how do I expand the upbar???? http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgj6.png
[19:46] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:47] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: wait  ﻿rm ~/.local/share/Trash/share/*   removes the files
[19:47] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: i cannot, i get this following prompt
[19:47] <troxor> torroella: middle-click drag the items to the right
[19:47] <Darlok_Williams> soundray: Hmm... I booted my Windows XP disc, but it didn't give me an option for Recovery Console... did I miss something?
[19:47] <weeman13221> mDemocritus: no, that what i been saying, on the original tower and mine no ethernet
[19:47] <troxor> torroella: or hold shift, and grab the leftmost one and drag them all at once ;)
[19:47] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:47] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: ahh
[19:47] <torroella> troxor:  i did it :<
[19:47] <michael_> does anyone know a programm to make an image-presentation on DVD?
[19:47] <saxin> soundray: Well.. If is there some known problems that will happen?
[19:47] <soundray> Darlok_Williams: don't know, sorry, now Windows expert here.
[19:47] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:48] <DIL> Darlok_Williams: f8
[19:48] <Darlok_Williams> DIL: When?  It never showed the option...
[19:48] <Bllz> I dunno how ubuntu-related this question is, but could somebody help me daisy-chain two routers?  I got FiOS installed two days ago and their router sucks, so I'd like to turn off it's wifi capabilities and use a WRT54GL router instead.
[19:48] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: says no such directory
[19:48] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:48] <Henry_RHodes_III> he said daisy
[19:48] <Slart> Pulseaudio: I've got the powernowd installed.. that might be it
[19:48] <reppypepp1> troxor, but it is my main harddrive with root on it
[19:48] <Lynet> Bllz: If you are lucky, their router can be set to bridge mode.
[19:48] <mDemocritus> weeman13221: ok... first thing to do is find out if it's being detected
[19:49] <Henry_RHodes_III> cool
[19:49] <weeman13221> well i'll have to do that
[19:49] <soundray> saxin: there are some differences between Macs and other PCs, mainly in the way the filesystems are laid out and the minimal system that boots the machine (EFI vs. BIOS).
[19:49] <mDemocritus> this will tell you: lspci | grep -i ethernet
[19:49] <Bllz> Lynet:  the actiontec can?
[19:49] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: sorry got confused  ﻿rm ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[19:49] <Pulseaudio> Slart: under services settings (admin->services) I see powernowd activated
[19:49] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:49] <torroella> troxor:  i cant!
[19:49] <Pulseaudio> Maybe it's CnQ
[19:49] <Pulseaudio> I'll check in a bit
[19:49] <carnovski> can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please
[19:49] <Henry_RHodes_III> I will try agin
[19:49] <troxor> reppypepp1: hm, chances are it's ext3, unless you created it manually with `mke2fs`
[19:49] <Slart> Pulseaudio: hmm.. well.. give it a try and let me know if it works
[19:49] <DIL> Darlok_Williams: f8 is safe boot you can use fixmbr since you deleted linux partitions
[19:49] <soundray> saxin: but there is plenty of information on how to use Boot Camp etc. to circumvent potential problems. tuxmobil.org
[19:49] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: same prompt
[19:49] <Henry_RHodes_III> I am tired
[19:49] <troxor> torroella: right click on the items and untick "Lock To Panel"
[19:49] <saxin> soundray: I know that. But before the wireless would not work. Is this still the case?
[19:49] <Bllz> Lynet:  I tried an online tutorial yesterday and there were epic amounts of fail that ensued
[19:49] <Pulseaudio> Slart: aye, will reboot in a bit
[19:50] <carnovski> can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some on
[19:50] <carnovski> e help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me g
[19:50] <carnovski> et kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba dock please      can some one help me get kiba doc
[19:50] <trident523> kappaccino: carnovski !flood
[19:50] <carnovski> k please
[19:50] <Darlok_Williams> DIL: Well, I don't know what happened, but apparently just booting the Windows XP install disc changed the mbr.... because now it booted just fine.
[19:50] <trident523> Whoops.
[19:50] <saxin> soundray: I'm thinking of removing macosx, and run ubuntu on it..
[19:50]  * Darlok_Williams slaps the crap out of carnovski.
[19:50] <kappaccino> trident523, huh?
[19:50] <torroella> troxor:  done, nothing yet
[19:50] <trident523> carnovski: No.
[19:50] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: can you browse to  ﻿~/.local/share/Trash/files and see if its there?
[19:50] <trident523> kappaccino: Sorry, mah backspace still isn't working.
[19:50] <troxor> torroella: then move them by middle click dragging them where you want
[19:50] <Jaikkuli> carnovski: what the hell is wrong with you.. the world doesnt revolve around you, shut the hell up
[19:50] <DIL> Darlok_Williams: glad to help :-)
[19:50] <Henry_RHodes_III> I love ubuntu
[19:51] <troxor> torroella: or hold shift, and that will 'push' all unlocked applets out of the way
[19:51] <Bllz> anybody know how to put an actiontec router into bridge mode for use with a linksys wrt54gl?
[19:51] <trident523> Bllz: Have fiostv? Don't if you do.
[19:51] <Bllz> trident523:  no.  only internet
[19:51] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: yes i could cd to it
[19:51] <torroella> troxor:  nothing happens!!
[19:51] <soundray> saxin: I think most wifi chipsets that are in use on Apples these days are supported. No guarantees, though
[19:51] <trident523> Bllz: Oh, cool. Not using actiontec + tv = broken TV service.
[19:51] <troxor> torroella: ok, right click and select move
[19:51] <Agion> troxor: so what do I need to do with the driver?
[19:51] <troxor> torroella: then move them around
[19:52] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: any files in there?
[19:52] <Bllz> trident523:  haha yeah they warned me about that.  do you know how to do it?
[19:52] <troxor> Agion: there are tons of tutorials, one sec
[19:52] <soundray> saxin: boot the live CD -- maybe your wifi works out of the box, then you don't have anything to worry about.
[19:52] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: ls right? no.. doesnt list anything
[19:52] <saxin> soundray: I see..
[19:52] <trident523> Bllz: You could bridge it, or just connect the linksys infront of it.
[19:52] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: but wait.. sorry.. the files are from an ipod.. do they have a seperate trash?
[19:52] <torroella> troxor:  it expands when i set it to the right or left but up doesn't, that's the problem i can't expand to use all the space above
[19:52] <zetheroo> how do I get VNC working in Ubuntu hardy?
[19:52] <Henry_RHodes_III> I dont get wirless
[19:52] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: ls -al to see hidden files also
[19:53] <troxor> !search restricted
[19:53] <ubot3`> Found: ure, restrictedformats, restricted formats, restricted, flash, flv, ubuntu-restricted-extras, effects, gutsysources, codecs
[19:53] <troxor> !restricted
[19:53] <ubot3`> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:53] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: yes i think so
[19:53] <torroella> troxor:  what about remove and create a new one
[19:53] <Bllz> trident523:  do you know how to bridge it?  I'm afriad that just connecting the router will cause conflictsm, for example with the administration page since they both use the same IP
[19:53] <torroella> could it work?
[19:53] <Pulseaudio> brb testing CnQ
[19:53] <trident523> Bllz: I've never tried it though.
[19:53] <troxor> Agion: bah, it'd probably be faster just to search google for "ubuntu <card vendor> driver"
[19:53] <Bllz> trident523:  gotcha
[19:53] <troxor> torroella: sure, then you'd have to add all the items again
[19:53] <Agion> k
[19:53] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: well my problem is that for some unknown reason i do not have the permission to delete some of them
[19:54] <Henry_RHodes_III> I hate ndiswrapper
[19:54] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:54] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: i thought if i tried it with sudo.. it should work.. but yeah.. let me find the directory for the ipod trash.. any idea?
[19:54] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: can you see them?
[19:54] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:54] <Agion> troxor: I'll try it out, let you know if i cant get something
[19:54] <soundray> !lol | Henry_RHodes_III
[19:54] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: i can see it in the trash through the gui atleast yes
[19:54] <ubot3`> Henry_RHodes_III: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[19:55] <trebnoj> hey there!  anyone know how to get Video out support for a nvidia 6600GT?
[19:55] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: pressing empty trash doesnt do it
[19:55] <Henry_RHodes_III> what
[19:55] <Rampage> A reboot seems to have fixed the firefox 3 problem
[19:55] <jtaylor13> group:i added kde 4.0 to my ubuntu and some how set my icons to show the red x,the rotate icon when i click on the icons.HOW do i undo that??
[19:55] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: ok then sudo rm -rf   but be very careful with this command make sure you are in right folder
[19:56] <Lokii-> i need help mounting a smb network share as a physical drive can someone please give me a hand on this ....? running ubuntu 8.04 hardy w/ all updates todate
[19:56] <Henry_RHodes_III> I will stay hear for ever
[19:56] <Slart> Rampage: ah.. it feels like such a windowsy solution.. but hey.. if it works =)
[19:56] <Henry_RHodes_III> I like this life
[19:56] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: so perform this command while inside the trash directory?
[19:56] <Rampage> Somehow it wouldn't load up the desktop after I killed X
[19:56] <trident523> !love | Henry_RHodes_III
[19:56] <soundray> Henry_RHodes_III: this is a channel with a defined purpose. You either ask for support or give support. Don't spam the channel with 'lols' and offtopic comments please.
[19:56] <ubot3`> Henry_RHodes_III: Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[19:56] <Henry_RHodes_III> I want to crawl in my computer and hide
[19:56] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: maybe gksu nautilus would be safer
[19:56] <Rampage> so had to reboot it, and yeah it does seem like a windowsy solution
[19:56] <enzo> ciao
[19:57] <Henry_RHodes_III> I am not just having a long talk
[19:57] <trident523> soundray: This is the -offtopic ch... crap, wait. It isn't. Whoops!
[19:57] <Slart> Henry_RHodes_III: have you tried #ubuntu-offtopic ? it's great
[19:57] <atlef> !offtopic | Henry_RHodes_III:
[19:57] <ubot3`> Henry_RHodes_III:: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:57] <trident523> !ohmy | trident523
[19:57] <BABA_RECORD> t
[19:57] <Henry_RHodes_III> its about freaking ubuntu and a worless card
[19:57] <Henry_RHodes_III> wirless
[19:57] <Agion> troxor: I cant find anything working...
[19:57] <Henry_RHodes_III> I hate wireless
[19:57] <Rampage> thanks very much for the help Slart legend2440 glitsj16
[19:57] <soundray> !enter | Henry_RHodes_III
[19:57] <ubot3`> Henry_RHodes_III: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:57] <Slart> you're welcome, Rampage
[19:58] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[19:58] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: but isnt nautilus the gui i am using or? i just said it didnt work that way.. unless i misunderstand
[19:58] <wolfwalker> Linux newbie here.  I installed secret maryo chronicles, but it doesn't show in Games, or anywhere else.  Did I miss something?
[19:58] <enzo> italiano
[19:58] <troxor> Agion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[19:58] <soundray> Henry_RHodes_III: you are still spamming
[19:58] <wolfwalker> I installed it through Synaptic
[19:58] <atlef> !it | enzo
[19:58] <ubot3`> enzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:58] <Henry_RHodes_III> I need a job
[19:58] <Slart> wolfwalker: perhaps it's started from the terminal.. try typing super and pressing tab.. see if it fills something in
[19:58] <Agion> troxor: the first command on hardy gives me nothing (is it supposed to give?) and the second gives me error...
[19:59] <RUMMY> hello all
[19:59] <Henry_RHodes_III> this will be a long talk
[19:59] <Lokii-> i need help mounting a smb network share as a physical drive can someone please give me a hand on this ....? running ubuntu 8.04 hardy w/ all updates todate
[19:59] <Slart> wolfwalker: sorry.. type secret, then tab
[19:59] <atlef> !offtopic | Henry_RHodes_III:
[19:59] <ubot3`> Henry_RHodes_III:: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:59] <troxor> Agion: search synaptic for linux-restricted-modules
[19:59] <Henry_RHodes_III> shut up
[19:59] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: yes but gksu nautilus gives you root permissions like sudo does so be very careful
[20:00] <Slart> Henry_RHodes_III: you want to stay here? I'd suggest you behave and listen to what people are trying to tell you
[20:00] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: well how might i use gksu nautilus.. do i just type that into terminal?
[20:00] <Henry_RHodes_III> I am
[20:00] <atlef> Jaikkuli: or alt - f2
[20:00] <ruchir> hey anyone know about firepass F5 Network VPN
[20:00] <Henry_RHodes_III> I cant get my wireless
[20:00] <Henry_RHodes_III> working
[20:00] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: yes then browse to folder where files are and right click move to trash
[20:00] <Slart> Henry_RHodes_III: then talk about that.. and only that.. take the rest to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:01] <Myrtti> Henry_RHodes_III: please keep the support issues here and all the rest to respective channels like #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:01] <Lr5> For some reason mplayer, totem and kaffeine freeze every time I try to view a video, this might be related to using octoshape program at some point earlier; Anyone knows what could be wrong? (Ubuntu 8.04)
[20:01] <DIL> he reminds me of blaked
[20:01] <Storm|nix> anyone here know how to get the Tilp2 usb stuff to work right?
[20:01] <Henry_RHodes_III> This is support
[20:01] <torroella> how can i select my monitor model???
[20:01] <ruchir> hey is it with the new kernel update
[20:01] <RUMMY> I have installed Ubuntu, have 2 NTFS Partitions, /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2, Ubuntu see that partition as empty and 11GB
[20:01] <Henry_RHodes_III> I need a wireless card to wok
[20:01] <wolfwalker> Right.  So how do I make "smc" a shortcut, and where do I find it to make a shortcut from it?
[20:01] <Myrtti> Henry_RHodes_III: then elaborate on your problem
[20:01] <Slart> torroella: where do you want to enter that? for X ?
[20:01] <wolfwalker> (It was smc I had to get into a terminal and run)
[20:02] <troxor> Lokii-: Places->connect to Server
[20:02] <torroella> Slart:  yes
[20:02] <Henry_RHodes_III> Acehold on let me get the box
[20:02] <Lokii-> troxor
[20:02] <Storm|nix> BTw the TiLP in the Ubuntu repo is old and out dated
[20:02] <Slart> wolfwalker: I think you can edit the menu's by clicking system, preferences, main menu
[20:02] <Lokii-> troxor, i want to mount it as a physical drive
[20:02] <Agion> troxor: found pretty much packages, what will I choose?
[20:02] <troxor> Lokii-: smbmount
[20:02] <Storm|nix> so can anyone help?
[20:02] <Rampage> hmm, strange xchat is not changing my nick
[20:02] <troxor> Agion: whatever version matches your kernel
[20:02]  * Rampage tries again
[20:02] <wolfwalker> Doesn't help.  smc is not available to add.
[20:03] <Pulseaudio> Slart: nope, CnQ IS turned on.
[20:03] <Agion> troxor: how do I know what matches?
[20:03] <Henry_RHodes_III> Aspire 5315-2326 p/n lx.aleoy.177
[20:03] <jamiejackson> which of these is the preferred repo to get firefox 3 rc1? deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu hardy main deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main <-- i don't know my way around launchpad enough to know
[20:03] <jim_> server irc.p2p-network.net
[20:03] <STSX> RUMMY: How does Ubuntu see it as empty? Are you using the Nautilus file browser or are you at the command line?
[20:03] <Pulseaudio> Slart: the thing just tells me that CPU scaling isn't supported for some reason
[20:03] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: i dont get it.. the window that opens up with i run that.. the trash shows empty
[20:03] <Slart> torroella: I don't think you have to do that.. usually ubuntu talks to the monitor using some kind of "plug and play"-ish protocoll (i2c) and gets the info for you
[20:03] <troxor> Agion: there should be a normal "linux-restricted-modules" that should pull in whatever the latest is
[20:03] <Pulseaudio> Which is sad, since I'd love to save some power here
[20:03] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: but the trash does have stuff in it
[20:03] <Lokii-> root@CIA-Terminal1:~# smbmount smb://myciabookworld/public/ /media/mybook
[20:03] <Lokii-> Mounting cifs URL not implemented yet. Attempt to mount myciabookworld/public/
[20:03] <Lokii-> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[20:03] <Lokii-> root@CIA-Terminal1:~#
[20:03] <FloodBot3> Lokii-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <Henry_RHodes_III> s/n lxaleoy1178131993f1601
[20:03] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: hit ctrl+h they may be hidden files
[20:03] <torroella> Slart:  i can't change my resolution and it is working in a wrong one, how can i fix it?
[20:03] <Slart> Pulseaudio: that's odd...
[20:04] <Agion> troxor: there is one of them alredy installed
[20:04] <Slart> !res | torroella, have you read this?
[20:04] <ubot3`> torroella, have you read this?: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:04] <Henry_RHodes_III> true
[20:04] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: they arent.. if i open it from my desktop link.. they are visible
[20:04] <RUMMY> @STSX from console
[20:04]  * Rampage stabs xchat why is it using global info
[20:04] <troxor> Agion: you need the one that matches your kernel
[20:04] <troxor> Agion: look for linux-image or somesuch
[20:04] <troxor> and find the version that's installed
[20:04] <RUMMY> @RUMMY
[20:04] <Pulseaudio> I'm on ubuntu_amd64 though not sure if it's supposed to be odd. Just reformatted(was on 7.10->8.04, the update didn't go that well, so here I am)
[20:04] <RUMMY> Ubuntu 8.10 @ RUMMY
[20:05] <STSX> RUMMY: so if you you do type "mount", does it show those partitions as mounted?
[20:05] <Henry_RHodes_III> celeron 550 (2.0ghz
[20:05] <RUMMY> patrition is mounted automaticly
[20:05] <Slart> Pulseaudio: oh.. wait.. there might be a kernel module for the different governors.. hang on.. lemme check
[20:05] <Pulseaudio> Slart: what's a governer got to do with this
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[20:05] <Henry_RHodes_III> lol
[20:05] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: anyway i can make all folders and files inside my trash have complete permissions opened?
[20:05] <atlef> Jaikkuli: look under /home/yourname/.local/share/Trash
[20:05] <Slart> Pulseaudio: it's the things that decide what freq the processors use..
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> anyone familiar with conky?
[20:06] <Henry_RHodes_III> linksys sucks
[20:06] <Pulseaudio> oh okay
[20:06] <Slart> Pulseaudio: there are a couple of settings... depending on how much power you want to save
[20:06] <ompaul> !offtopic | Henry_RHodes_III
[20:06] <ubot3`> Henry_RHodes_III: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:06] <Storm|nix> anyone know about TiLP if not I'll see if I can get it to work myself some more
[20:06] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: ok close nautilus and in terminal cd to the place where the files are. is there a Trash folder inside the ipod?
[20:06] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: there is a folder called files, and one called info
[20:06] <Henry_RHodes_III> system bd/bios 1.33
[20:06] <ActionParsnip>  Henry_RHodes_IIIlinksys routers run linux. much better than netgears windows embedded stuff
[20:06] <Pulseaudio> Slart: none of those settings show up, though
[20:06] <Henry_RHodes_III> 2008 model
[20:06] <Pulseaudio> unlike how they do in the help file
[20:07] <Henry_RHodes_III> Atheros
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> does ayone use conky??
[20:07] <atlef> Jaikkuli: sorry, didn't know it was your ipod
[20:07] <troxor> ActionParsnip: ask away
[20:07] <Henry_RHodes_III> came with vista
[20:07] <loz> hello all
[20:07] <Slart> Pulseaudio: if you run "lsmod | grep -i powernow" in a terminal.. do you get any output?
[20:07] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: no.. not to my knowedge.. if i look in nautilus.. it says the location is trash:///
[20:07] <Slart> ActionParsnip: yes
[20:07] <ompaul> Henry_RHodes_III, you are offtopic
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> here is my conkyrc file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16248/
[20:07] <Henry_RHodes_III> what ever
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> it runs ok, just wont go transprent, can you dvise
[20:07] <Pulseaudio> nope, Slart
[20:07] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: your using hardy tight?
[20:07] <phoenixz> I just did an update on 8.04 and mysql-client (and so also server) breaks :(  dpgk --configure -a gives me mysql-client-5.0 depends on libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1); however: Version of libmysqlclient15off on system is 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5... I NEED mysql on my machine!! How can I fix this!?
[20:07] <Pulseaudio> no input, even with sudo
[20:08] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: yes
[20:08] <legend2440> right?
[20:08] <loz> has anyone got a good tool bar they can recomend beside's the one in G desklkets?
[20:08] <Kaemon12433> my ubuntu's connection is running teribly slow..
[20:08] <Henry_RHodes_III> I need coffe
[20:08] <reppypeppy> i tried using fdisk -l and it did not tell me whether i have ext2 or ext3
[20:08] <Kaemon12433> not sure what to do
[20:08] <Kaemon12433> any help?
[20:08] <Slart> Pulseaudio: try "sudo apt-get install powernowd"
[20:08] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: and Trash icon shows full even after emptying it?
[20:08] <Childi> Hi, does anyone know works drawing table (aiptek 12000u)
[20:08] <loz> has anyone got a good tool bar they can recomend beside's the one in G desklkets?
[20:09] <ompaul> reppypeppy, sudo fdisk -l
[20:09] <reppypeppy> i did
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> loz: toolbar for what?
[20:09] <jamiejackson> Firefox 3 RC1: I want to install it on Hardy from repos. Which repo to use: 1) ﻿http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu 2) http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu <--can someone distinguish between these two? not sure what "FTA" is
[20:09] <Pulseaudio> Slart: done, the lsmod thing still doesn't show me anything
[20:09] <reppypeppy> but it did not tell me whether it was ext2 or ext3
[20:09] <ompaul> reppypeppy, sudo fdisk -l  >>>  l is lower case L
[20:09] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: well i told you.. it isnt empty.. i can see files in it through nautilus.. (except for some reason if i open it with gksu nautilus.. in that particular window the trash appears empty).. very strange
[20:09] <reppypeppy> ompaul, yes i ran it, but it did not tell me
[20:09] <Slart> ActionParsnip: here's mine.. for comparison.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16251/
[20:09] <loz> ActionParsnip: like a toollbar launcher
[20:09] <amrik> jamiejackson: you can get it from hardy-proposed
[20:09] <robnn> can anyone give me a hand? Gparted isn't detecting any partitions....
[20:09] <reppypeppy> i mean it listed stuff but just said extended and linux
[20:10] <woddf2> Hello
[20:10] <ompaul> reppypeppy, read it slowly
[20:10] <woddf2> In GNOME, how do I make an application launch at startup for all users?
[20:10] <atlef> Jaikkuli: have you refreshed the nautilus as in F5
[20:10] <jamiejackson> oh, that must be a recent development, amrik, i'll check
[20:10] <loz> amrik: what file extension?
[20:10] <amrik> loz: /
[20:10] <amrik> loz: ? I don't understand
[20:10] <ompaul> !pastebin | reppypeppy put it in there and ask the channel I have to run
[20:10] <ubot3`> reppypeppy put it in there and ask the channel I have to run: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:10] <Kaemon12433> Hey!
[20:10] <Jaikkuli> atlef: no help
[20:10] <loz> amrik: have you formatted yet?
[20:10] <robnn> can anyone help me install grub? i installed windows and now can't boot back into linux
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Slart: i'll have a look man, cheers
[20:10] <Kaemon12433> why is my internet acting slow? can someone help me?
[20:11] <STSX> !hi | Kaemon12433
[20:11] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: here is a post that sounds like similar to your problem    http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=794515
[20:11] <ubot3`> Kaemon12433: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> !grub | robnn
[20:11] <ubot3`> robnn: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:11] <ruchir> boot with linux cd in recovery mode
[20:11] <reppypeppy> ok
[20:11] <Darlok_Williams> !info googleearth-package
[20:11] <ubot3`> googleearth-package: utility to automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.5.2 (hardy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[20:11] <loz> amrik: i know a bit about gparted, is it not detecting anything?
[20:11] <Darlok_Williams> Okay, how do I use this once I install it?
[20:11] <torroella> how can i change my resolution?
[20:11] <Slart> Pulseaudio: hrmpf.. I'm looking through the ubuntu forums atm.. I'll let you know if I find anything
[20:11] <robnn> i have, but when i follow the steps to re-install grub i get an error at stage2
[20:11] <ha-nocri> hello... how to unable trash icon? Right click "Add to panel" - Trash, doesn't work. :( When i've reinstalled gnome-applets, icon show one time but after Ctrl-Alt-Bckp icon is hidden and i'dont know how to enable it.
[20:11] <Kaemon12433> my internet is recieving barely any packets
[20:11] <Kaemon12433> how do i fix this
[20:11] <Pulseaudio> Slart: oh okay
[20:11] <Kaemon12433> i have dsl
[20:11] <Slart> Pulseaudio: you have cool'n'quiet enabled, right?
[20:12] <Pulseaudio> Slart:in the bios? yeah
[20:12] <Pulseaudio> It's turned on, set to auto on my mobo
[20:12] <Slart> Pulseaudio: what happens if you run this "sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd restart" ?
[20:13] <reppypeppy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16254/ its here
[20:13] <Pulseaudio> this is what happens, Slart:  * Stopping powernowd:                                                   [ OK ]  * Starting powernowd...                                                         * CPU frequency scaling not supported...                                [ OK ]
[20:13] <etronik> How do I convert a desktop install of Ubuntu into a server ? i.e. very light GUI (running on-demand) and without GUI apps ? and most server apps ?
[20:14] <reppypeppy> does extended mean it is ext, not ext2 or ext3?
[20:14] <Slart> Pulseaudio: what an utterly unhelpful little program that is..
[20:14] <Pulseaudio> lol
[20:14] <woddf2> In GNOME, how do I make an application launch at startup for all users?
[20:15] <atlef> reppypeppy: neither, you cam make mor partitions inside the extended partition
[20:15] <Pulseaudio> I'm using 8.04 64 bit. The kernel in it does support dual-core processing and whatnot, right?
[20:15] <atlef> *can
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart Doesnt the cpu need to support scaling?  Not all of them do
[20:15] <atlef> *more
[20:15] <wam> Hi, I want to upgrade from gutsy to hardy. My update-manager dies with this information: extracting '/tmp/tmpkT5_UH/hardy.tar.gz' authenticate '/tmp/tmpkT5_UH/hardy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmpkT5_UH/hardy.tar.gz.gpg' No view can be imported, aboring   Any Ideas?
[20:15] <reppypeppy> never mind i found our
[20:15] <ha-nocri> how to enable trash icon? "Add to panel" doesn't work.
[20:15] <reppypeppy> out
[20:15] <Pulseaudio> Jack_Sparrow: AMD X264 4200+ s939
[20:15] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: it's an AMD x2 64.. I've got the same one
[20:16] <reppypeppy> thanks all , atlef
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Pulseaudio THat does not tell me if it supports it or not
[20:16] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: doesnt seem to fix it.. the problem is very similar though.. does this help though.. if i open the folder in the trash.. the location is trash:///media_IPOD%20(IPPE)_.Trash-1000_Backup%20Stuff .. would that conclude that the trash can is inside the ipod?
[20:16] <jamiejackson> thx amrik, got ff3rc1 from hardy-proposed. what's the usual procedure, add the proposed repo, selectively update the package you want, then remove the proposed repo?
[20:16] <scorpionglitch> How do I change the default icon for a file type?
[20:16] <Pulseaudio> Jack_Sparrow: the presense of cool and quiet in the bios and that it allows me to turn it on, and that it is turned on. Does that tell you if it supports it?
[20:17] <truedego> is there anyway I can burn VCDs or SVCDs in linux?
[20:17] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: has the ipod been connected this whole time?
[20:17] <Agion> troxor: im installing the linux image now...
[20:17] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: ahh ithink i found it.. yes, it is inside the ipod i think
[20:17] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: yes
[20:17] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: yes i think it is
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Pulseaudio I dont mess with amd much these days.. so no.. it doesnt.
[20:17] <Jaikkuli> legend.. but i shown all hidden files in the pod.. and found a .trash-1000 directory
[20:17] <Slart> Pulseaudio: might be the motherboard too, I suppose
[20:18] <Pulseaudio> Slart: hmm, I'm not sure, really
[20:18] <Pulseaudio> At any rate, thanks
[20:18] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: can you empty that folder?
[20:18] <woddf2> In GNOME, how do I make an application launch at startup for all users?
[20:18] <Slart> Pulseaudio: but as you said.. it uses amd cool'n'quiet.. it should support freq scaling too..
[20:18] <Agion> troxor: the linux-image wont get installed and I have one kind of it now...
[20:19] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: well i opened another gksu nautilus and tried.. seems to work
[20:19] <darren__> hi i am having a bit of a problem with ubuntu running
[20:19] <crackaddict> how do you change your pannels and stuff
[20:19] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: thanks :) big help
[20:19] <amrik> jamiejackson: yeah thats what I did
[20:19] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: ok now right click ipod and select eject or unmount
[20:19] <welkin> can any one tel me if there is any package which will pause the download and continue it later in synaptic package manager im using ubuntu 8.04
[20:19] <wam> alright - i think i hacked id.
[20:19] <Agion> troxor: I cant find anything with somesuch, so whats next?
[20:19] <wam> it
[20:19] <darren__> after about 10-15 min ubuntu 7.10 freezes up and i can't do any thing
[20:19] <jamiejackson> amrik: does your ff still report ff3 b5 after upgrading to rc1?
[20:19] <Pulseaudio> Slart: I don't really know, but it seems that hteres no way to fix it
[20:19] <Pulseaudio> oh well
[20:19] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: yes and
[20:20] <Slart> Pulseaudio: I just wish there was a way to know *why* you can't enable it.. something a bit more helpful than "not supported"..
[20:20] <darren__> i resently upgraded the motherboard and some one told me to update the drivers
[20:20] <Pulseaudio> Slart: aye, that's the only message I see, really.
[20:20] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: anything in desktop trash?
[20:20] <darren__> for the motherboard
[20:21] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: no
[20:21] <TheSonOfMorgoth> yes?
[20:21] <Slart> Pulseaudio: try this "dmesg | grep -i power"
[20:21] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: whenever you delete files on ipod it creates hidden trash folder and puts them in there
[20:22] <woddf2> In GNOME, how do I make an application launch at startup for all users?
[20:22] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: is it fixed?
[20:22] <loz> has anyone got a good tool bar they can recomend beside's the one in G desklkets?
[20:22] <Slart> Pulseaudio: it might be a bug.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/156066
[20:22] <ubot3`> Malone bug 156066 in linux "CPU Frequency Scaling Not Supported for Intel Centrino Duo Processors" [Medium,Triaged]
[20:22] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: yup, thanks
[20:22] <Goop> loz: You mean a window manager, like the bar at the bottom?
[20:22] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: your welcome
[20:22] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: seems ubuntu kinda combines the trash from different areas
[20:22] <loz> Goop
[20:22] <loz> Goop/: yes
[20:22] <Pulseaudio> Slart: http://pastebin.com/d6c50c2ba
[20:23] <Jaikkuli> legend2440: even though they are different trash directories
[20:23] <loz> Goop: sorry i mean like a launcher
[20:23] <Agion> troxor: not working
[20:23] <Goop> loz: Hmm
[20:23] <loz> Goop: simalar to the Macs
[20:23] <Goop> loz: I use Avant Window Manager
[20:23] <welkin> can any one tel me if there is any package which will pause the download and continue it later in synaptic package manager. im using ubuntu 8.04
[20:24] <Goop> loz: It's like the Mac dock and you can add launchers
[20:24] <loz> Goop: i know of one in Gdesklets, but it is a bit out of date
[20:24] <legend2440> Jaikkuli: yes it does. i forgot i had same thing happen with usb sandisk mp3 player
[20:24] <Slart> Pulseaudio: compare it to mine.. http://pastebin.com/m34e7b91
[20:24] <Pulseaudio> Slart: well, if it is I hope it gets fixed soon
[20:24] <emanuele> hi
[20:25] <TheSonOfMorgoth> guys, sorry if this sounds newbie but im new to irc... is this the main ubuntu like help channel? on a website it said to join irc.ubuntu.com and join the #ubuntu channel
[20:25] <Goop> loz: So let me look at this straight; you want a bar or something that you can add your launchers to?
[20:25] <Goop> loz: Like a shortcut bar
[20:25] <emanuele> hi, can someone help me?
[20:25] <TheSonOfMorgoth> and loz, yeah i use awn for that its pretty nice
[20:25] <loz> Goop: yes one where you can add your icons
[20:25] <TheSonOfMorgoth> we can try eman but im newbie 2 :)
[20:25] <Pulseaudio> Slart: what's that at the top of yours?
[20:25] <Goop> loz: Avant Window Manager all the way :)
[20:25] <emanuele> what?
[20:25] <Pulseaudio> the modes it can run at?
[20:26] <Pulseaudio> or is the stuff at the bottom one mine, slart?
[20:26] <Slart> Pulseaudio: it's the different.. p-states I think it's called
[20:26] <Slart> Pulseaudio: the top one is mine
[20:26] <loz> can i get these vai synaptic?
[20:26] <Pulseaudio> p-states?
[20:26] <Pulseaudio> well, it's odd
[20:26] <Pulseaudio> I'm not sure how to fix this
[20:26] <Slart> Pulseaudio: each p-state is a .. well.. powersaving mode.. I guess you could call it.. I can run my processors at the freq's listed there
[20:27] <jamiejackson> how do i verify that i truly am running Firefox 3 RC1, after an upgrade from hardy-proposed?
[20:27] <DIL> !ask | emanuele
[20:27] <ubot3`> emanuele: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:27] <Pulseaudio> jamiejackson: what you do is turn on synaptic, search for firefox and look at the version
[20:27] <Goop> jamiejackson: Doesn't it say in the About dialog in Firefox?
[20:27] <kbrosnan> jamiejackson: about: in the address works
[20:27] <emanuele> sorry,
[20:27] <Pulseaudio> I am running firefox3rc1, but the about dialog in firefox tells me I am running firefox3(does not mention rc1)
[20:28] <jamiejackson> i'm not sure the about box is reliable, i'll check synaptic
[20:28] <Slart> Pulseaudio: this sounds interesting.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/kernel-powernowd-issues-369789/
[20:28] <emanuele> well i'm trying to set my language in ubuntu.... but i don't know why i can't
[20:28] <kbrosnan> that is because rc1 would have been released as firefox 3 if they did not decide to do an rc2 Pulseaudio
[20:29] <Pulseaudio> kbrosnan: aye, but at any rate, I'm sure I'm running rc1 by looking at synaptic
[20:29] <Goop> emanuele: What do you mean you can't change the language?
[20:29] <D3RGPS31> Hardware Question - I have an Adesso CyberTablet Z12, plugging it in installed WACOM drivers. The tablet is pretty much a mouse, how do I set it up to be more... like a tablet xD (no mention of WACOM in xorg)
[20:29] <ruchir> hey any one faving system hang problem in new kernel
[20:29] <Goop> D3RGPS31: sudo apt-get install wacom-tools
[20:30] <torroella> how can I change my resolution???
[20:30] <ruchir> i have 2.6.24.17 i guess
[20:30] <DIL> emanuele, system>ADMINISTRATION>LANGUAGE
[20:30]  * DIL  oops
[20:30] <D3RGPS31> Goop: installed them with the drivers, didn't help
[20:30] <punzada> Greetings, I've set up a samba share between two ubuntu pcs (I would perfer to use NFS but one of the drives I need data from is ntfs on the second pc), the share works fine but when I mount the share it won't let me follow any of the symbolic links in the directory in the mount, anyone know a way to fix that? (trying to mount the ntfs drive directly to the share simply doesn't work)
[20:31] <Goop> D3RGPS31: Which application are you trying to use the tablet in?
[20:31] <Pulseaudio> Slart: hmm, maybe cpufreqd
[20:31] <D3RGPS31> Goop: GIMP, or anything pretty much
[20:31] <Pulseaudio> oh wait, better not
[20:31] <Goop> D3RGPS31: Or do you mean that you'd like to be able to press the top-right corner of the tablet to move the cursor to the top-tight corner of the screen?
[20:32] <D3RGPS31> Goop: yes!
[20:32] <ken1111> #cablehack
[20:32] <ken1111> opps
[20:32] <noobuntu> ubuntu. xubuntu, kubuntu ... how to know which one to pick?
[20:32] <jamiejackson> Pulseaudio: here's what's confusing: i added hardy-proposed, i apt-get installed firefox, it told me that it upgraded it "Setting up firefox (3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ..", i then removed the repo, then ran firefox, and firefox --version reports "Setting up firefox (3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ..". Similarly, synaptic shows that the installed version is 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3. I guess Synaptic's right, huh? So wonder wh
[20:32] <Goop> D3RGPS31: I think Ubuntu seems to have a bit of a bug with this
[20:32] <Slart> noobuntu: try the live cd's.. each one has a different feel to it
[20:32] <Goop> D3RGPS31: To do that you need to plug it in before Ubuntu boots up
[20:32] <jamiejackson> whoops, i meant firefox --version reports Mozilla Firefox 3.0b5, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org
[20:33] <Goop> D3RGPS31: Then it seems to function correctly
[20:33] <Pulseaudio> jamiejackson: add hardy-proposed back again, since synaptic hasn't got firefox3rc1 in it's repo i think
[20:33] <ed_empire> net
[20:33] <noobuntu> then i must all download and install ... little bit tedious work regarding that i have 0 knowledge about linux
[20:33] <D3RGPS31> Goop: when i do that, or plug it in after boot, it lists itself under mouse devices
[20:33] <Pulseaudio> I have proposed and backports enabled as software sources atm, so yeah...
[20:33] <D3RGPS31> Goop: should it be doing that?
[20:33] <noobuntu> slart: then i must all download and install ... little bit tedious work regarding that i have 0 knowledge about linux
[20:34] <Goop> D3RGPS31: I'll try plugging mine in, I haven't used it in a while
[20:34] <D3RGPS31> Goop: is it adesso o.O
[20:34] <noobuntu> slart: which one do you use and why not the other one?
[20:34] <RC> sorry, where can i find  libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0?
[20:35] <Slart> noobuntu: I use regular ubuntu, 64bit for my desktop.. regular ubuntu 32bit for my laptop, xubuntu 32-bit for my mini-itx server since it's a bit lighter when it comes to memory etc
[20:35] <ubot3`> Slart: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 387, column 84
[20:35] <Slart> noobuntu: I don't really like KDE for some reason.. other people love it..it's a question of taste I guess
[20:35] <jamiejackson> Pulseaudio: i added it back, and it still shows that i've got b5, but it does show that the newer version is rc1. do i need to keep hardy-proposed just to *use* rc1? i thought i just needed it during installation...
[20:36] <Goop> D3RGPS31: Mine also acts like a mouse and not a tablet
[20:36] <noobuntu> slart: so, main difference is window engine?
[20:36] <Pulseaudio> jamiejackson: I'm not sure about that, but try upgrading to 3.0rc1 again ?
[20:36] <Slart> ubot3`: aww.. how sweet.. you come crying to me when your broken.. now run along.. walk it off
[20:36] <ubot3`> Slart: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:36] <Goop> D3RGPS31: Let me just check whether it is listed as a mouse device
[20:36] <Slart> noobuntu: it's the only difference, afaik
[20:36] <Pulseaudio> oh dang, that's a real pain to get powernow fixed in that way
[20:36] <jamiejackson> Pulseaudio: i'll do it from synaptic this time. before, i tried the upgrade via the command line, where i'm less confident...
[20:37] <noobuntu> slart: ok, now i'm ready to do some researching on net, thank you
[20:37] <McJester> I just installed gimmie, how do I start using it?
[20:37] <Slart> noobuntu: you're welcome
[20:37] <noobuntu> @all: is there a special version of ubuntu for laptops?
[20:37] <torroella> how can i know my video card name????
[20:37] <UsuarioDoBrasil> Hi, I need some help with Wubi.
[20:38] <Slart> torroella: sudo lspci
[20:38] <jamiejackson> no, noobuntu, regular distros work great on laptops
[20:38] <Slart> noobuntu: not yet
[20:38] <noobuntu> jamiejackson, Slart: thank you
[20:39] <Goop> D3RGPS31: It looks like my tablet is stuck as a mouse too :s
[20:39] <legend2440> noobuntu: here is comparison of gnome and kubuntu (kde)    http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome
[20:39] <Goop> D3RGPS31: I'll let you know if I find a fix
[20:39] <noobuntu> Slart: oh, thank you, that is very kind of you
[20:39] <D3RGPS31> Goop: thank you
[20:39] <torroella> Slart,  http://asdasdasda.pastebin.com/m3102d698 what's my video card?
[20:39] <Slart> noobuntu: wasn't me =)
[20:39] <jamiejackson> Pulseaudio: thx. i'm upgraded properly now. must've botched it from the CLI before
[20:40] <Slart> torroella: line 3, I think
[20:40] <Goop> UsuarioDoBrasil: What's gone wrong?
[20:40] <Pulseaudio> jamiejackson: probably, I'm not sure myself. I'm kinda afraid of the CLI and I try to avoid it at every chance
[20:40] <Goop> UsuarioDoBrasil: Or should I say, what do you need help with in Wubi?
[20:41] <noobuntu> legend2440: sry legend2440, all the credits goes for you ---> oh, thank you, that is very kind of you
[20:41] <undecim> Hey, I have a problem. I just installed ubuntu on my 64-bit system and its missing some important packages (gnome-panel, etc.) and When I try to apt-get those packages, it says that the packages cannot be found (or dependencies of the packages cannot be found).
[20:41] <legend2440> noobuntu: your welcome
[20:41] <noobuntu> Slart, legend2440: i suppose you two are linux experts already? kunf-fu masters? :)))
[20:43] <noobuntu> Slart, legend2440: i tried regular ubuntu, but it halted on 16 min. before end, now i'm not shure what to do next
[20:43] <izm99> can somebody help me boot into my partially installed hardy?
[20:43] <idefine> when I ssh into a machine and run a gui app, like firefox it displays on my screen, through my xserver, is there anyway to launch firefox and have it display on the local machine, not my machine, from which i sshed in.
[20:43] <gib> does any know how to make alienarena work on ubuntu, when I join a server it closes :(
[20:43] <undecim> izm99:  I can help you out
[20:44] <undecim> izm99: By partially installed, you mean missing a boot loader?
[20:44] <fdskajfe> I have an AT&T (sierra wireless) 3G card -- i have it configured and everything works great with pppd.  the only thing is that its not recognized and doesnt create the device nodes if I have the card already inserted when I boot up.  I have to pop it out and pop it back in... I'd like to submit a bug report but I don't know what is the appropriate project to submit the bug under.. anyone have any info?
[20:44] <izm99> undecim: great!  I went through the installer and I chose to not install the boot loader at the last step
[20:44] <fdskajfe> its very reproducable, it happens every time i boot up my laptop
[20:44] <undecim> okay, do you have a live cd of some sort?
[20:45] <noobuntu> Slart, legend2440: any way to continue halted installation via terminal?
[20:45] <izm99> undecim: yeah.  I already have a version of ubuntu on here and I didn't want to overwrite it.
[20:45] <Taza> How long can I expect "sudo dd if=/dev/sda | gzip --best > /backup/drive.gz" to take when /backup is a 5400rpm drive and /dev/sda is a sata1 drive?
[20:45] <DexterF> oi
[20:45] <izm99> undecim: yep.  on live setup now
[20:45] <undecim> izm99: okay, boot that
[20:46] <DexterF> after hardware upgrade from nForce2/GF6800AGP to nForce570/8800GT on 8.04: X dies screaming, then apparently writes new xorg.conf. Now no 3D/closed src driver. what to do?
[20:46] <izm99> undecim: I tried manually editing the menu.lst, but it didn't complete booting... i got pushed to an initramfs prompt.
[20:46] <nico8481> hello
[20:46] <fdskajfe> im just not sure if its a bug in hal, dbus or whatever
[20:46] <izm99> undecim: already booted.
[20:46] <undecim> izm99: okay, do you know how to install grub at all?
[20:47] <RUMMY> anyone can help about GNS3?
[20:47] <woddf2> Hello
[20:47] <c0mp13371331337> DexterF, I've got an 8800GTS, latest drivers from nVidia work fine for me. (v173.078)
[20:47] <nico8481> how can i create a mailing list that contains all the addresses of one of my address books without having to retype all addresses? can't such a list be created via drag&drop or right click or something?
[20:47] <woddf2> My box refuses to wake after suspend.
[20:47] <Taza> Restricted drivers management reveals no binary drivers nor a way to install one. What was the apt name?
[20:47] <izm99> undecim: not much more from what I've read.  And I already have grub... I want to update it to include this partition
[20:47] <DexterF> c0mp13371331337: did the drivers from 8.04 _not_ work?
[20:47] <nico8481> i mean in Thunderbird
[20:48] <DexterF> !nvidia
[20:48] <ubot3`> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:48] <undecim> oh, okay... in that case give me a few moments....
[20:48] <legend2440> noobuntu: was that the livecd?  some find that they need the alternative cd to get ubuntu to install on their computers because of hardware configurations. but the alternative cd doesn't let you try out ubuntu first before installing. no i think if install fails you start over making sure cd is not defective or if it was a bad burn
[20:48] <izm99> undecim: sure, no problem.  thanks.
[20:48] <thehurley> hello,
[20:48] <c0mp13371331337> DexterF: Not easily.... the nVidia drivers give me much better performance and were much easier to set up, especially using nvidia-settings (should be installable through apt-get repos.)
[20:48] <owen1> what is the purpose of the gdm? if it's just for security and choosing the desktop environment, can i skip it and do it from a terminal?
[20:48] <woddf2> !help
[20:48] <ubot3`> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[20:49] <eyes`only> nico8481: in the address book, select tools>export and export to a .csv
[20:49] <Taza> Anyone know the apt package name for nvidia restricted drivers?
[20:49] <noobuntu> Slart, legend2440: that was upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 via internet
[20:49] <izm99> undecim: (and i've tried editing the existing grub's menu.lst, but it didn't work... so I think maybe it's not completely installed and it's supposed to do something special on the first boot?)
[20:49] <woddf2> My box refuses to wake after suspend.
[20:49] <thehurley> i want to configure things so that xserver does not start after boot, one site i read recommened modifing /etc/inittab, but that file doesn't exist in ubuntu.  any ideas?
[20:49] <DexterF> c0mp13371331337: what was hard about installing the 8.04 drivers?
[20:49] <woddf2> My video card is an Intel 82815 Graphics Controller.
[20:49] <undecim> Can you send me a pastebin of what you added to your menu.lst?
[20:50] <fdskajfe> thehurley: type this "sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove" then "sudo update-rc.d gsm stop 20 2 3 4 5 ."
[20:50] <fdskajfe> be careful to get the last period
[20:50] <izm99> undecim: alright, give me a few minutes
[20:50] <legend2440> noobuntu: oh never had problem with upgrade so i'm not sure if you can resume or not
[20:50] <nighmi> hi, I'm pretty much in the wrong channel here, but I don't know where to ask... is there a possibility of defining different fonts for different parts of unicode? like, I need a different font for Devanagari than for the Latin script, but I don't know whether I could define them independently somewhere
[20:50] <c0mp13371331337> DexterF: Here were my only trials and tribulations installing the drivers and having them work across reboots: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795997
[20:50] <fdskajfe> i'd recommend a cut and paste
[20:50] <woddf2> My box refuses to wake after suspend.
[20:50] <woddf2> My video card is an Intel 82815 Graphics Controller.
[20:50] <fdskajfe> actually
[20:51] <nico8481> eyes`only, and then? how do i import the csv into a list?
[20:51] <Taza> How well will dd if=/dev/hda | gzip --best > /drive/backup.gz compress empty NTFS space?
[20:51] <fdskajfe> its "gdm" not gsm
[20:51] <fdskajfe> whoops
[20:51] <noobuntu> Slart, legend2440: what i'm afraid of is that i will not be able to boot if i reboot
[20:51] <torroella> how can i configurate my display settings using gui?
[20:51] <fdskajfe> anyway you get the idea
[20:51] <eyes`only> a csv is a text file
[20:51] <eyes`only> comma separated
[20:51] <eyes`only> what do you want to import it into?
[20:51] <fdskajfe> anyonw know where i should submit the bug report regarding the gsm card... would that be hal or dbus?
[20:51] <fdskajfe> or neither?
[20:52] <torroella> how can i configurate my display settings using gui?
[20:52] <nico8481> eyes`only, yeah i know but the point is to create a mailing list (so that when i type "my_mailing_list" in the to: field of a new mail, it mails to all the addresses that are in the list)
[20:52] <eyes`only> oh you want a group
[20:52] <atlef> !nvidia > torroella
[20:53] <torroella> it is not nvidia atlef is intel
[20:53] <RAdams> to execute a .bin with spaces in its name, is it "./Name of bin"?
[20:53] <Taza> What was the apt package name for nvidia restricted drivers?
[20:53] <nico8481> eyes`only, the problem is that there doesn't seem to be an easy way to create a list with drag&drop or something, when you create a new list you have to *type* all the addresses
[20:53] <atlef> torroella: oh sorry
[20:53] <RAdams> Taza: nvidia-glx
[20:53] <Taza> Thanks.
[20:53] <nico8481> even if they are already in your address book(s), you can't drag&drop them to the list nor create a list by selecting the ones you want then right-clicking :-/
[20:53] <DexterF> c0mp13371331337: replacing nvidia-glx with nvidia-glx-new did it... but interesting read there anyway
[20:53] <RAdams> ﻿ to execute a .bin with spaces in its name, is it "./Name of bin"?
[20:53] <legend2440> noobuntu: thats why i use partimage before upgrades
[20:54] <Taza> How well will gzip compress NTFS free space?
[20:54] <Taza> When dding a drive image
[20:54] <camuflage> hello all
[20:54] <fdskajfe> RAdams: yes, but you may have to type "chmod 755 Whatever.bin" first
[20:54] <RAdams> fdskajfe: k thx
[20:54] <InvaderAmoto> hello camuflage
[20:54] <camuflage> i'm using xubuntu 7.10, and i would like to know how can i upgrade my xfce to 4.4.2 version?
[20:54] <noobuntu> Slart, legend2440: partimage is linux prog for creating partition images?
[20:54] <izm99> undecim: http://pastebin.com/d725658e9
[20:55] <STSX> RAdams: I think you need to put that name in quotes or escape each space with \
[20:55] <atlef> noobuntu: no, for creating images of your partitions
[20:55] <legend2440> noobuntu: yes like symantec ghost or driveimage
[20:55] <glade88> All Ubuntu users from Delhi(India) can join the Delhi LoCo team: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=347
[20:55] <atlef> better pay attention
[20:55] <nico8481> is there a channel that is somehow related to thunderbird besides #thunderbird? (only 2 guys there...)
[20:55] <camuflage> i'm using xubuntu 7.10, and i would like to know how can i upgrade my xfce to 4.4.2 version?
[20:56] <nico8481> and #mozilla doesn't let me in
[20:56] <samuel> Can anyone tell me how I can get CTRL+Z to work? I have ubuntu server edition with the gnome desktop.
[20:56] <noobuntu> legend2440: funny thing that i always do that with windows, but i suppose i was thinking that linux is to stable for such error :P
[20:56] <InvaderAmoto> camuflage i think there is a chat specifically for xubuntu
[20:56] <samuel> Oops, forgot to mention that I can't make it work in adobe photoshop CS2.
[20:56] <camuflage> hum
[20:57] <legend2440> noobuntu: only way to find out is reboot
[20:57] <InvaderAmoto> camuflage: try #xubuntu
[20:57] <eyes`only> nico8481: from what i can see, you can drag and drop if you've created cards for the addresses
[20:57] <undecim> izm99: The menu.lst does seem fine. i don't see what the problem would be
[20:57] <Niksoni> Can anyone please help me?
[20:57] <noobuntu> legend2440: first i will download hardy and burn it, for case i can't boot
[20:57] <legend2440> noobuntu: good idea
[20:58] <InvaderAmoto> niksoni please ask the question all in one line. it prevents clutter
[20:58] <nico8481> eyes`only, cards?
[20:58] <camuflage> hum in xubuntu no one speaks
[20:58] <izm99> undecim: ﻿so all i did was add in the 32b entries by copying the existing format and looking at the newly installed boot directory.
[20:58] <noobuntu> legend2440: if i'm not for the next 3 days here, you will know what happend, lol
[20:58] <legend2440> noobuntu: yes i will lol
[20:58] <InvaderAmoto> camuflage: you could try the ubuntu forums as ubuntuforums.org
[20:59] <camuflage> ok
[20:59] <noobuntu> people, wish me luck with reboot :D
[20:59] <noobuntu> bye @all
[20:59] <InvaderAmoto> good luck
[20:59] <kbrosnan> nico8481: #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[20:59] <izm99> undecim: and I did not boot into that right after installation.  I wonder if for the first boot it is supposed to do some kind of extra setup?
[21:00] <eyes`only> nico8481: http://helpdesk.luther.edu/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=LIST_ThunderbirdAdvanced#Import_and_Export_Address_Books
[21:00] <icqnumber> noobuntu: why?
[21:00] <Niksoni> I downloaded ubuntu for the  64bit AMD and Intel computers,and it won't install,when i try to boot it,it shows only (initramfs) and i don't know what to type there
[21:00] <nico8481> eyes`only, damn that's right :P it only works if you drag them to the list in the left pane though, if you try to drag it in to the one in the "main pane" it doesn't work :-/ okay so problem solved then, thanks
[21:00] <nico8481> kbrosnan, thx too
[21:00] <noobuntu> icqnumber: upgrade halted and will not continue
[21:00] <drak1> i have 8.10 installed on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600. everything works fine but the screen doesn't fill up the whole monitor. the resolution is capped at 800x600. what can i do?
[21:00] <eyes`only> nico8481: np
[21:01] <Ahadiel> Niksoni, Are you sure that you have a 64-bit capable CPU?
[21:01] <me___> grep -v cdrom sources.list > sources.list .... :( .... how do I recreate sources.list?
[21:01] <InvaderAmoto> Niksoni: the problem might be with your cd drive. that happened to me, and it turned out my cd drive was screwing up. i figured it out by trying the drive in windows. and it didnt work there either
[21:01] <noobuntu> icqnumber: and it was near end. is it possible to resume it via terminal?
[21:01]  * eyes`only sighs. "anotha satissfied cusstoma!"
[21:01] <rDoo> drak1: try     xrandr -s 1024x768
[21:01] <icqnumber> noobuntu: try it
[21:02] <eyes`only> ok now to find me a better irc client
[21:02] <noobuntu> icqnumber: i would if i knew what to do :D
[21:02] <nico8481> now a more general question about such lists/groups (never used them): do the recipients only see the list name in the to: field, or can they see the addresses?
[21:02] <me___> that should read sources.lst...
[21:02] <InvaderAmoto> eyes'only: i like xchat. its nice
[21:02] <drak1> rDoo: Size 1024x768 not found in available modes
[21:03] <icqnumber> noobuntu: what was u doing, have u tried to upgrade ur distro?
[21:03] <Freeaqingme> Which app/tool would you guys advise me to use for OCR?
[21:03] <noobuntu> legend2440: i'm reading the comparison you gave me, its good
[21:03] <me___> is there no way to recreate the original /etc/apt/sources.lst?
[21:03] <noobuntu> icqnumber: yes, from 7.10 to 8.04
[21:03] <noobuntu> icqnumber: via internet
[21:03] <me___> or can I find it on the install cd?
[21:03] <me___> or can I find a tool to reacreate it on the install cd?
[21:03] <rDoo> drak1: xrandr -q
[21:04] <eyes`only> where does xchat keep its log files?
[21:04] <legend2440> noobuntu: you using gnome now?
[21:04] <InvaderAmoto> eyes'only: i dont no but this chat is logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com
[21:04] <icqnumber> noobuntu: well i guess here u go: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:04] <atlef> Freeaqingme: have you checked synaptic
[21:04] <STSX> me__: just delete it and it will be recreated.
[21:04] <drak1> rDoo: minimum 320x240, maximum 800x600
[21:04] <undecim> izm99: Well, I really don't know... It could be something in the /boot folder. You could try making a backup of the sdb1 /boot folder, then copy the sda1 /boot to sdb1
[21:05] <Goop> drak1: I just found where you can change the reported working resolutions
[21:05] <Freeaqingme> atlef, yes I have, but I wasn't able find anything that met my needs. So I wondered what you guys use
[21:05] <noobuntu> icqnumber: i tried that, it tells me that /var/lib/dpkg can not be locked, possibly used by another process
[21:05] <eyes`only> InvaderAmoto: it's useable, but when you're coming from years of mIRC it leaves a lot to be desired in the menus. Everything is done by /set commands and that's ok but I would like something more intuitive
[21:05] <steph33560> Hi all
[21:05] <me___> STSX: I alread deleted it... but it hasn't been recreated...
[21:05] <atlef> Freeaqingme: i don't use ocr so i do not know
[21:05] <drak1> rDoo: the monitor is 15" but ubuntu thinks that it's only 11" so there's a black border around the desktop
[21:06] <steph33560> Since I've moved to Hardy, a lot of programs have disapeer from "System" menu. Is there issues about it ?
[21:06] <izm99> undecim: hmm... ok, interesting suggestion.  Well, thanks for your help!  I'll keep poking around with it.  :)
[21:06] <meltingclock> nessus starts up at boot, but something isn't configured right; it stalls at a prompt before ubuntu actually boots up....how can i get to where i can remove nessus from startup?
[21:06] <icqnumber> noobuntu: but my guess, that it is not a good way, to upgrade.... how was u upgrading it
[21:06] <Niksoni> Well,on my laptop it writes AMD 64 athalon 64x
[21:06] <eraldo> is there a web developer among you who has a minute ?
[21:06] <drak1> Goop: what is it?
[21:06] <c0mp13371331337> eraldo, I dabble, what's up?
[21:06] <STSX> me__: Just open System > Admin > Software Sources and checking all the repositories, then click wherever the "update sources" button is.
[21:06] <izm99> undecim: one last question, what is the name of the installer application?  I want to look at the source.
[21:07] <Goop> drak1: The config file is found here; /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:07] <noobuntu> icqnumber: normal way, from system->update manager
[21:07] <rDoo> drak1: ugh! that will get more complicated. you seem to have framebuffer only. The correct driver for your VGA device is not installed. Once fixed, try to search the net for modelines
[21:07] <Goop> drak1: Be careful messing with it, though
[21:07] <InvaderAmoto> steph33560: there are some differences in the preferences and administration apps between 8.40 and 7.10
[21:07] <me___> STSX: The thing is... I don't have Software Sources in the menu
[21:07] <undecim> izm99: i'm not sure
[21:07] <eyes`only> nico8481: the list will be expanded unless you place it in the bcc field
[21:07] <Goop> drak1: Go down to the heading "Section 'monitor'"
[21:07] <me___> STSX: Had problem installing so I had to do some things manually
[21:07] <drak1> rDoo: that's what I thought. where can I get the correct drivers? in package manager?
[21:07] <Priest> How do I forcefully delete something in my trash bin?
[21:07] <steph33560> InvaderAmoto, that would give a reason that some programs like jockey-gtk disapeared ?
[21:07] <nost> hi, when i stop a task pressing control-z (in the terminal), how can i resume it?
[21:07] <eyes`only> nico8481: if you're looking for each person to see only THEIR name in the To: field, you need a bulk mailing app
[21:07] <me___> STSX: So I gather not all packages have been installed
[21:07] <izm99> undecim: ok, no problem.  I'll find it.  thanks.
[21:07] <InvaderAmoto> steph33560: oh and you can go to sytem, prefs, main menu to edit what shows up there
[21:08] <woddf2> Hello
[21:08] <woddf2> It *refuses* to wake from suspend!
[21:08] <rDoo> goop:xorg.conf is almost empty. where can I get a full one?
[21:08] <STSX> me__: Oh so you are still missing some things then. I'm not even sure what package that Software Sources program comes in, and I can't check right now because I'm not in Gnome.
[21:08] <meltingclock> essentially i need to remove a program from starting up at a boot, but i can't actually finish booting to remove it
[21:08] <InvaderAmoto> steph33560: if its not in the main menu preferences then i dont no what would cause that. i'm not familiar with what jockey-gtk is
[21:08] <noobuntu> icqnumber: this is the last what terminal "told" me during upgrade: setting up python-gnomecanvas (2.22.0-0ubuntu1)
[21:08] <legend2440> noobuntu: have you tried sudo apt-get update and made sure synaptic wasn't running?
[21:08] <Niksoni> And i have one more problem,when i try to install Ubuntu from my CD without booting,my OS,vista says that when the setup is creating and "Image" it says it has stopped working,and that it will close it.
[21:08] <me___> STSX: Ah, ok.... anybody else?
[21:08] <undecim> I have a problem. I just installed ubuntu on my 64-bit system and installed several packages, but now its missing some default packages (gnome-panel, etc.) and When I try to apt-get those packages, it says that the packages cannot be found (or dependencies of the packages cannot be found).
[21:09] <me___> STSX: Thanks anyway
[21:09] <Goop> rDoo: You mean there aren't many settings in xorg.conf?
[21:09] <rDoo> drak1: lspci should tell you which VGA card you have. If it's nvidia, install their proprietary driver.
[21:09] <Priest> What is the ~/trash directory?
[21:09] <nost>  hi, when i stop a task pressing control-z (in the terminal), how can i resume it?
[21:09] <STSX> (for me___) Anybody know the command line program name of "Software Sources"?
[21:09] <me___> nost: fg
[21:09] <rDoo> Goop: there are NONE
[21:09] <ghostz> when I rebooted my machine gnome starts but gnome-panel does not come up...i actually cannot do anything
[21:09] <nost> me___: thanks
[21:09] <icqnumber_> noobuntu: and what happend
[21:09] <woddf2> It *refuses* to wake from suspend!
[21:09] <ghostz> i have went to my terminal but can't find anything
[21:09] <steph33560> InvaderAmoto, jocker is the driver manager for NVidia
[21:09] <eyes`only> nost: fg or bg depending on what you want to do with it
[21:09] <noobuntu> legend2440: synaptic = update manager?
[21:09] <Goop> rDoo: Make sure you type it correctly
[21:10] <ghostz> any ideas on how to solve this and get gnome back
[21:10] <noobuntu> icqnumber: nothing ... it stands there (About 16 minutes reamining)
[21:10] <steph33560> InvaderAmoto, thanks for the menu manager, I've forgot it !!
[21:10] <mboman> How can I boot from a USB device using grub? is it t all possible?
[21:10] <nico8481> eyes`only, can i use only a bcc field with an empty 'to:' ?
[21:10] <Goop> rDoo: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:10] <undecim> STSX: I don't know the name of the GUI, but you can manually edit the list at /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:10] <InvaderAmoto> steph33560: oh well for nvidia drivers i just install them from hardware drivers in administration
[21:10] <drak1> Goop: i see Section "Monitor"
[21:10] <drak1> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[21:10] <drak1> EndSection
[21:10] <eyes`only> nico8481: yes, in that case, the to: field will show "To: <undisclosed recipients>" or something like that
[21:10] <fde> STSX: gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk  <-- exactly what alacarte says about it
[21:11] <Goop> drak1: Go down the the Screen section
[21:11] <Priest> How do I forcefully remove something from Trash? There is a file which refuses to be removed in my Trash bin/
[21:11] <nico8481> eyes`only, thx
[21:11] <izm99> undecim: have you tried "aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop" ?
[21:11] <ghostz> any ideas on why my gnome-panel would suddenly quit loading on startup or how I could troubleshoot it
[21:11] <atlef> !install > mboman:
[21:11] <eyes`only> nico8481: watch it with that, it's a good way to get blacklisted on spam servers
[21:11] <rDoo> Goop: just "default screen" "configured monitor" and such, no resolutions or modelines
[21:11] <drak1> Goop: what should i do at "screen"
[21:11] <me___> fde: Thanks
[21:12] <noobuntu> ghostz: better ask in gnome channel ;)
[21:12] <nico8481> eyes`only, ah :-/
[21:12] <legend2440> noobuntu: when you try  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or sudo apt-get update synaptic and update manager must be closed
[21:12] <ghostz> noobuntu, thanks
[21:12] <steph33560> InvaderAmoto, behaviour of "alacarte" is strange
[21:12] <Priest> How do I forcefully remove a file from my trash?
[21:12] <DIL> Priest: login as root and try deleting it
[21:12] <Goop> rDoo: I'll help in a minute
[21:12] <InvaderAmoto> Priest: you could remove it as root user. using root user is dangerous as you can do litterally whatever you want to your computer, which could include screwing things up. just type gksu nautilus in terminal
[21:12] <nico8481> eyes`only, well i'll put myself in "to:" then :)
[21:12] <noobuntu> legend2440: affirmative, will close it now, or try at least
[21:12] <steph33560> InvaderAmoto, checkboxes uncheck themselves after cheking it...
[21:12] <Goop> drak1: What is there in the screen section?
[21:12] <Amaranth> steph33560: How so?
[21:12] <undecim> izm99: Well.. I just tried that, and this is an interesting message I get... "ubuntu-desktop is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled."
[21:13] <fde> Priest: go to ~/.local/share/Trash/ ... in files or info ... sudo rm whatever is in there
[21:13] <Ashfire908> Does/has anyone here used apt-proxy?
[21:13] <steph33560> Amaranth, i've launched "alacarte" from a terminal
[21:13] <me___> gah... I'm not in the sudoers file... had to add a user by hand afterwards since the installation went wrong
[21:13] <prabakaran> hello
[21:13] <izm99> Priest: i don't understand the problem.  you want to delete the file?
[21:13] <InvaderAmoto> steph33560: ya thats a bug i think. it happens to me, on the side bar you have to enable things within the other things before checking them (if that makes sense to you)
[21:13] <zonkamatic> Hello.
[21:13] <izm99> undecim: what does aptitude install ubuntu-desktop say?
[21:13] <Priest> izm99: yes
[21:13] <noobuntu> legend2440: update manager has no button close and its not responsive. should i just "kill" it?
[21:13] <me___> So I guess I have no other option but to boot in to rescue mode.... again... *sigh*
[21:13] <eyes`only> nico8481: You know all that spam you get that your name/address isn't in the To: field? This is how you get them. Someone emails to a huge group in the BCC: and then puts something weird in the To: field. Spam analysis engines flag that stuff
[21:13] <drak1> rDoo: i got "Trident Microsystems Cyberblade/XP (rev 63)" for VGA controller
[21:13] <Talcite> hey guys, I'm having some trouble with my apache setup
[21:13] <Amaranth> steph33560: and?
[21:13] <steph33560> Amaranth, I click on a un checked checkbox, to enable it  then it unchecks itself 1 second later
[21:13] <legend2440> noobuntu: yes
[21:13] <Talcite> I keep getting 403 forbiddens
[21:14] <STSX> me___: Sounds to me like you would be better off just doing a complete reinstall and try to get things right so you don't have to manually fix everything. :)
[21:14] <Amaranth> steph33560: You can't make an empty menu show.
[21:14] <undecim> izm99: http://pastebin.com/m169efac8
[21:14] <Talcite> well I get it for sites are are symlinked to /var/www
[21:14] <zonkamatic> I'm having a SMALL problem or two with my fresh install.
[21:14] <izm99> Priest: do you have the Trash applet?  right click, empty trash.  Or in Nautilus, if you open the trash folder, File -> empty trash
[21:14] <drak1> Goop: Section "Screen"
[21:14] <drak1> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[21:14] <drak1> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[21:14] <drak1> 	Device		"Configured Video Device"
[21:14] <drak1> EndSection
[21:14] <FloodBot3> drak1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <Amaranth> steph33560: You also can't make it show things only users with sudo access can use in the Administration menu
[21:14] <fde> Amaranth: sure you can...
[21:14] <InvaderAmoto> steph33560: what are u trying to enable?
[21:14] <STSX> me__: What happened that things are so messed up?
[21:14] <nico8481> eyes`only, ah ok so it's the huge bcc list that gets them flagged as spam, not the fact that the "to:" is empty (?)
[21:14] <woddf2> How do I disable suspend entirely?
[21:14] <Niksoni> When i type in the same line as (initramfs) it says /bin/sh not found ,should i download Ubuntu Again?
[21:14] <Amaranth> fde: No, you really can't
[21:15] <steph33560> Amaranth, i must check but i think i'm in the sudoers list
[21:15] <steph33560> InvaderAmoto, login screen for exampel
[21:15] <fde> Amaranth: Why you'd want to is beyond me... but go to alacarte > click Applications > check "Other" for instance... it'll be there with nothing in it.
[21:15] <eyes`only> nico8481: combination of both. each has a certain 'weight' and if the sum of the weight is too high... it equals spam.
[21:15] <Talcite> someone suggested sites_available, but is it possible to use virtual hosts in the same domain i.e. localhost, but have a different DocumentRoot?
[21:15] <Priest> izm99: No, it was not letting me delete it from trash. I got it now. Had to sudo -i, cd to ~/trash, rm -r, done.
[21:15] <Amaranth> steph33560: But are you in the 'admin' group?
[21:15] <Amaranth> fde: Trust me, that doesn't work. I wrote alacarte
[21:15] <matthew__> how can I get like a regular Mozilla Firefox, I was trying to listen to Yahoo! Launchcast radio but it says it don't support the browser at this time...Any ideas?
[21:15] <steph33560> Amaranth, true, i've lost the group adm
[21:16] <woddf2> How do I disable suspend entirely?
[21:16] <nico8481> eyes`only, hmm... /me learning new stuff  everyday :)
[21:16] <zonkamatic> Folks, this should be real simple:  I have a button on my screen marked "terminal."  When I click on it, I get a blank, white window.  What's going on?
[21:16] <woddf2> matthew__: Have you tried spoofing as IE or something?
[21:16] <Goop> drak1: Try this code in the Terminal
[21:16] <steph33560> Amaranth, well, my user is not a its member anymore
[21:16] <izm99> Priest: Ok.  Somehow it had root ownership.  You probably could have also chown yourusername the_file and then tried.
[21:16] <Goop> drak1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:16] <sygard> Q: is there any channel where I can ask questions about kernel and modules ?
[21:16] <Amaranth> steph33560: The menu doesn't parse the sudoers file, it just checks to see if you are in the 'admin' group
[21:16] <eyes`only> nico8481: spam engines use a huge number of checks... huge bcc lists, huge to lists, server IP range not same as sender's, etc. Hold on I'll find you a reference
[21:16] <Goop> drak1: Close the file first, though
[21:16] <matthew__> woddf2: how can I do that?
[21:17] <kbrosnan> matthew__: you can likely fool it with the user agent switcher extension at addons.mozilla.org
[21:17] <steph33560> Amaranth,  sudo usermod -a adm <myuser> ? correct syntax ??
[21:17] <prabakaran> how to make desktop cube ?
[21:17] <atlef> matthew__: you can also install firefox2
[21:17] <Uplink> can i dual boot vista with ubuntu?
[21:17] <woddf2> matthew__: Try getting a UserAgent spoofing extension.
[21:17] <Starnestommy> Uplink: yes
[21:17] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: do you have your graphics cards drivers enabled?
[21:17] <matthew__> woddf2: forgive me im new to linux, how do i go about doing this?
[21:17] <woddf2> matthew__: ...go about doing what?
[21:17] <eyes`only> nico8481: http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_2_x.html
[21:18] <atlef> !install > Uplink
[21:18] <drak1> Goop: it's been asking me about keyboard
[21:18] <eyes`only> spamassassin is one of the best spam filters ever IMO
[21:18] <matthew__> woddf2: getting a user agent spoofing extension, I dunno what u mean
[21:18] <Amaranth> Niksoni: I don't see your problem, can you repeat it?
[21:18] <woddf2> matthew__: I am looking for one now.
[21:18] <Goop> drak1: What about it?
[21:18] <steph33560> Amaranth, InvaderAmoto thanks
[21:18] <D3RGPS31> Matthew__: search "User Agent Switcher" on google, the first link should be FireFox extension
[21:18] <nico8481> wow
[21:18] <steph33560> I must restart X11 to see it's ok :)
[21:18] <zonkamatic> Anybody?
[21:18] <InvaderAmoto> steph33560: np
[21:18] <prabakaran> yes . wen i clicked ctrl+alt n pagedown key my desktop cube goes flat
[21:18] <D3RGPS31> Matthew__: firefox rules >.>
[21:18] <Amaranth> steph33560: Did the menu items show up again?
[21:18] <woddf2> matthew__: I found one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
[21:18] <Uplink> I have ubuntu installed already... i just wanna dual boot it with vista... but i know vista might do something with the MBR
[21:18] <steph33560> Aragon,
[21:19] <nico8481> eyes`only, indeed that's quite a checklist :p
[21:19] <zonkamatic> HELLO hello (hello)
[21:19] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: go to add remove and install ccsm
[21:19] <arch> Any unanswered problems?
[21:19] <steph33560> Amaranth, I restart X11 and I go back here ;)
[21:19] <Amaranth> steph33560: I thought it was the 'admin' group, adm is the old one (from like pre-dapper times)
[21:19] <atlef> matthew__: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=user+agent&cat=all
[21:19] <eyes`only> nico8481: yup. updated often to thwart new spammer tricks too
[21:19] <Aragon> steph33560: sup?
[21:19] <zonkamatic> Do I count, arch?
[21:19] <prabakaran> i hav ccsm
[21:19] <arch> zonkamatic: Yep.
[21:19] <Starnestommy> zonkamatic: you may need to repeat your question
[21:19] <zonkamatic> Then, yes.
[21:19] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: then in preferences on the menu you'll see it. go into it and enable desktop cube
[21:19] <arch> zonkamatic: Problem?
[21:19] <prabakaran> i clicked d effects but still its not workin
[21:19] <drak1> Goop: "﻿sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" only let me reconfig keyboard.. didn't do anything to video
[21:20] <prabakaran> also i dont know d keybidings
[21:20] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: and you go left and right with alt+ctrl+clickanddrag
[21:20] <Goop> drak1: Ah, let me look some more then
[21:20] <steph33560> Amaranth, well seen ! the admin group exist also !
[21:20] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: or alt+ctrl+left or right
[21:20] <zonkamatic> I have a fresh install, iso dl'ed and burned last night, freshly updated.  When I try to run a terminal, I get a blank, white window.  What's going on?
[21:20] <matthew__> Sorry, we are unable to support this browser at this time.
[21:20] <matthew__> How do I use that to help me load launchcast radio?
[21:21] <icqnumber> Uplink: i guess u can intall vista, but u will not be able to boot ubuntu, to soleve this u will need to install grub
[21:21] <Niksoni> I have this one question,that i don't know if it really is a problem.Should the screen for Live CD booting(like in older version) be the same so i can know if im encountering a problem? (Like press enter to boot as Live CD)
[21:21] <arch> zonkamatic: Hm. No cursor or anything?
[21:21] <prabakaran> yes d cube rotates in d full screen i cant make d cube small size
[21:21] <steph33560> Amaranth, InvaderAmoto Aragon restarting X11
[21:21] <icqnumber> !grub | Uplink
[21:21] <ubot3`> Uplink: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:21] <zonkamatic> Not even a status line at the top.
[21:21] <Amaranth> zonkamatic: You decided you knew more than the system and installed the nvidia driver manually. :P
[21:21] <fde> matthew__: Launchcast won't work at all on Linux... try last.fm ... much better anyways.
[21:21] <Goop> drak1: Are you using a 3rd-party driver for your graphics card, such as the ATi or nVidia drivers?
[21:21] <zonkamatic> It's a pain to kill the process.
[21:21] <arch> Amaranth: Seriously?
[21:21] <Amaranth> arch: Seriously what?
[21:21] <icqnumber> Uplink: solve*
[21:21] <eyes`only> nico8481: as you can see, FROM_BLANK_NAME is in there :)
[21:22] <fde> matthew__: It uses activex, that's why launchcast won't work... but they make you pay, last.fm doesn't.
[21:22] <zonkamatic> Nope.  Went with the straight install.  I DO have an Apollo Bloody Monster (Nvidia Geforce 4), though.
[21:22] <arch> Amaranth: He manually installed the nvidia drivers? XD
[21:22] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: what do mean d cube? and d full screen? and you want it to zoom out more when it rotates?
[21:22] <drak1> Goop: nope. it's "﻿Trident Microsystems Cyberblade/XP (rev 63)" integrated on the laptop (Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600). noone else who has this laptop seems to have the same problem though
[21:22] <Amaranth> zonkamatic: How did you install the nvidia driver?
[21:22] <matthew__> i get launchcast plus with my DSL thats why I was trying to use it
[21:23] <zonkamatic> I didn't.  I went with the stuff that came on the CD.
[21:23] <arch> zonkamatic: 32 bit or 64 bit?
[21:23] <zonkamatic> OS or video driver?
[21:23] <Amaranth> zonkamatic: Then you don't have the driver for your video card installed.
[21:23] <arch> zonkamatic: OS
[21:23] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: i'll brb if you still need help
[21:23] <zonkamatic> 64.
[21:23] <Amaranth> zonkamatic: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[21:23] <matthew__> fde: i can't get the  Last.fm thingy on Banshee to work
[21:23] <prabakaran> ok inveder
[21:23] <nico8481> eyes`only, yup, a search on "bcc" finds nothing though, i guess it's called something else
[21:23] <matthew__> fde: wont let me click it
[21:23] <prabakaran> thanks
[21:23] <Goop> drak1: Assuming you're running Hardy Herron, go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[21:23] <atlef> matthew__: you cuold run windows in a virtual machine and get it that way
[21:23] <atlef> *could
[21:24] <matthew__> atlef: how do i get a windows virtual machine?
[21:24] <Goop> drak1: Does it say anything?
[21:24] <fde> matthew__: yeah... try lastexit or via rhythmbox/amarok ... banshee doesn't do it, just does audioscrobbling ...
[21:24] <zonkamatic> Not "sudo apt-get install nvidia-drivers" and "sudo apt-get install invidia-config" etc.
[21:24] <eyes`only> nico8481: it might be part of HEAD_LONG or something
[21:24] <drak1> Goop: tried that. it only says things about the wifi card
[21:24] <arch> Amaranth: If he didn't have the correct graphics card driver installed, the computer would not have started up X, so his desktop system wouldn't work.
[21:24] <Goop> drak1: Hmm
[21:24] <atlef> !virtualbox
[21:24] <ubot3`> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[21:24] <zonkamatic> (Just did that stuff with freespire--having a field day since I got a new CD burner.)
[21:24] <Goop> drak1: I'm starting to hate your PC ;)
[21:24] <atlef> !virtualbox > matthew__
[21:24] <Amaranth> arch: Not true, he has the 'nv' driver.
[21:24] <Goop> drak1: brb
[21:25] <zonkamatic> I'll check the video drivers.
[21:25] <zonkamatic> Thanks.  I'll be back.
[21:25] <drak1> Goop: haha.. well it's an old laptop so i thought i could run ubuntu on it better than winxp
[21:25] <arch> Amaranth: Well, I've had an ATi driver, that's where I had my problem.
[21:26] <Ashfire908> Does/has anyone here used apt-proxy?
[21:26] <Amaranth> arch: We're very good at making sure X always starts :)
[21:26] <matthew__> okay I'll just get lastexit and stuff...Anyone know a very good graphical game I can install from Synaptic ?
[21:26] <arch> zonkamatic: Sadly, the only thing I believe you can do at this time is reformat. Or was this as soon as you reformatted?
[21:26] <Goop> drak1: Back
[21:26] <PseudoBob> Hey can anyone help me with getting a keyboard layout file running?
[21:26] <Amaranth> drak1: What is the problem again?
[21:26] <matthew__> fde: do u know any games in synaptic with great graphics I can try?
[21:26] <arch> Any other problems?
[21:26] <Amaranth> arch: Why would you ever need to reformat
[21:27] <Amaranth> arch: This isn't even a serious issue
[21:27] <nico8481> eyes`only, well i guess a 23 addresses Bcc list with a non-empty To is OK, don't you think?
[21:27] <steph33560> Amaranth, InvaderAmoto Aragon back
[21:27] <fde> matthew__: alienarena, nexuiz .... there's a ton
[21:27] <mib_ih7x99> Hello... I've got a Lithium Ion battery in my laptop, and Ubuntu says that its capacity is 52%. Is there any way to increase that?
[21:27] <arch> Amaranth: That was the only thing I could do when I decided to go to an idiot streak and manually install my vid driver.
[21:27] <Amaranth> steph33560: menu items there now?
[21:27] <PseudoBob> I'm trying to get something working called "Mirrorboard" working that lets you type with one hand.
[21:27] <Amaranth> arch: That is the most obvious route, I guess
[21:27] <steph33560> Amaranth, yes but ... .strange X11 behaviour
[21:27] <matthew__> fde: list off a bunch that u know, I'll get them all I want to have a variety :) let them download while I do some things around the house here..;)
[21:27] <Amaranth> arch: He says he didn't install the driver at all
[21:27] <Goop> drak1: OK, so you're not using a third-party driver and your config file doesn't seem to show any signs of configuration :S
[21:27] <mib_ih7x99> Also, whenever I suspend or hibernate Ubuntu on my laptop, it works fine, but when it wakes up it beeps for a few seconds and then claims that suspend/hibernate failed.
[21:27] <steph33560> Amaranth, look likes compiz failed
[21:27] <rDoo> drak1: have a look at http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/3768/sl/t
[21:28] <bthornton> What is the "wmaster0" interface that I see on my Ubuntu Hardy machine?
[21:28] <Goop> drak1: Let's see what we can do ;)
[21:28] <PseudoBob> Anyone?
[21:28] <Amaranth> steph33560: Crap, that'd be my bug :/
[21:28] <drak1> Amaranth: driver issue with VGA Controller "Trident Microsystems Cyberblade/XP (rev 63)". system thinks the monitor is 11" instead of 15" and so resolution is capped at 800x600
[21:28] <steph33560> Amaranth, gdm really slow, need to stop then start
[21:28] <Amaranth> steph33560: Anymore details?
[21:28] <Ardorin> How do I get rid of dependencies I no longer use?
[21:28] <prabakaran> invader ?
[21:28] <fde> matthew__: I don't have them all memorized... sorry... those are just the ones I play myself... along with glest
[21:28] <Amaranth> drak1: Oh
[21:28] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Hmm. I'm not very sure...
[21:28] <Amaranth> !fixres | drak1
[21:28] <ubot3`> drak1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:28] <mib_ih7x99> Ardorin: `sudo apt-get autoremove', I think
[21:28] <fde> Ardorin: sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:28] <eyes`only> nico8481: possibly, depending on the content. There's a site where you can run your mail through a spamassassin filter, lemme see if I can find it
[21:28] <atlef> Ardorin: deborphan
[21:29] <arch> Amaranth: Well, that's a prob ill have to leave to you, Am.
[21:29] <Ardorin> thanks!!!!1
[21:29] <fde> atlef: deborphan isn't really the same... just does libs by default.
[21:29] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Hold on, I need to find a tool I used to find sys specs...
[21:29] <matthew__> fde: thank you..if anyone else knows please type my name and list some good games I try
[21:29] <steph33560> Amaranth, blank screen, mouse clicks with late answers, switch to console tty<7 verrry slow (must wait 2/5 econds)
[21:29] <atlef> fde: oh, my bad
[21:29] <mib_ih7x99> arch: I have a pretty strange configuration. Lifebook P1510D (tablet PC with passive digitizer), and some bits and pieces work and some don't.
[21:29] <atlef> fde: but handy as well
[21:29] <Amaranth> steph33560: Sounds like it is being software rendered
[21:30] <arch> mib_ih7x99: For example?
[21:30] <steph33560> Amaranth, I thouht compiz immediately
[21:30] <eyes`only> blech it's only windows. http://www.mailingcheck.com/download-spam-checker/
[21:30] <rDoo> ubot3: seems the right thing for me. thanks
[21:30] <STSX> mib_ih7x99: Suspend/hibernate problems are entirely dependent on your particular hardware configuration and can be tough to troubleshoot--you're best bet may be to search ubuntuforums.org for your particular setup
[21:30] <fde> atlef: Personally, I just use aptitude, it'll get rid of that stuff automatically... replaced debfoster/deborphan a while ago.
[21:30] <mib_ih7x99> STSX: Well, suspend/hibernate work fine OOTB, but when I resume I get an error claiming that they failed.
[21:30] <steph33560> Amaranth, I use NVIdia's owners drivers
[21:31] <mib_ih7x99> arch: The touchscreen, screen rotation, and hardware buttons under the screen. I managed to figure out how to get the touchscreen working with a perl "driver", and I installed a couple of packages from fjbtndrv.sf.net that sort of let the screen rotation work
[21:31] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: i'm back
[21:31] <Amaranth> steph33560: is this a GeForce 6xxx laptop?
[21:31] <prabakaran> wb
[21:31] <nico8481> eyes`only, the content would be "enl4rge y0uR p3N15 anD heal 4LL yoUr !lln3ss3z wiT my M1racul0US p!llz (4ND get a fr3e w4tch)"
[21:31] <nico8481> ;-)
[21:31] <prabakaran> i cant make d cube desktop
[21:31] <steph33560> Amaranth, No, a workstation ... but with a Geforce 8800GTX
[21:31] <Amaranth> steph33560: just disable compiz then
[21:31] <eyes`only> nico8481: woohoo free watch... where do i sign up?!
[21:31] <STSX> nico8481: Please save that for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:32] <Uplink> lol
[21:32] <Amaranth> steph33560: I don't care to figure out nvidia problems today
[21:32] <yao_ziyuan> how safe is it to always applying pre-release packages?
[21:32] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: what do u mean by d cube desktop?
[21:32] <steph33560> Amaranth, as me ;)
[21:32] <steph33560> Amaranth, IK tried to install open drivers, but I failed
[21:32] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: whats the d for?
[21:32] <Amaranth> yao_ziyuan: They've only killed machines twice in 4 years
[21:32] <Axel> InvaderAmoto: He means the wokspaces on a cube
[21:32] <matthew__> Thanks all
[21:32] <steph33560> Amaranth, this case might boost me :P
[21:32] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Usually Ubuntu, even Hardy Heron, does not support screen rotations and excess buttons.
[21:32] <matthew__> See ya FDE
[21:32] <mib_ih7x99> arch: This laptop uses one of those pointer buttons (between G, H, and B keys) and I can't push-click or scroll, but moving and the left/right mouse buttons work. Like I said--half this thing works and half doesn't.
[21:32] <fde> yao_ziyuan: depends how you go about it... 'sudo aptitude safe-upgrade' won't get you in much trouble... not recommended though either way.
[21:33] <Axel> InvaderAmoto: Most likely a spelling mistake or short for 'desktop'
[21:33] <InvaderAmoto> Axel: oh. i still dont get why you would say d
[21:33] <navetz__> does anyone here have good advice on contrast ratio for a monitor? I am looking at 2 different ones, one is 1000:1 and the other is 2500:1 but about 25 dollars more.
[21:33] <InvaderAmoto> Axel: oh
[21:33] <prabakaran> it means d desktop will be in d meddle of ur pc screen n u can rotate vertical n horizantal way
[21:33] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Then again, if you snoop around in Keyboard Shortcuts and find the "scroll up/down" button configs, you can set those to the scroll. I'm not sure if I really understand your question.
[21:33] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: so you have desktop cube and rotate cube enabled in ccsm?
[21:34] <mib_ih7x99> arch: I found modules that make it work--not perfect, but it works tolerably. xrandr rotates the screen, but 3D (Compiz) + xrandr = crash.
[21:34] <nickthorley> hi all - what is the best ubuntu program to convert mp4 files into mp3
[21:34] <Amaranth> !u | prabakaran
[21:34] <ubot3`> prabakaran: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[21:34] <smax> hi
[21:34] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: or it might just be called rotate, i dont remember
[21:34] <yaris12346789> do you recommend dual booting ubuntu with vista ? are there any conflicts? the laptop is very fast.
[21:34] <smax> i want to visit a website that uses realplayer to listen to audio clips
[21:34] <yao_ziyuan> then, how safe is it to apply all pre-release packages just for once?
[21:34] <prabakaran> yes i clicked d both n other some effects also
[21:34] <Amaranth> yaris12346789: Should work fine
[21:34] <smax> the file extention is .ram
[21:34] <yaris12346789> ok
[21:34] <yaris12346789> i installed xubuntu on my old computer very impressed. im just gonna install it on laptop as well :)
[21:35] <Axel> smax: Install Helix
[21:35] <arch> mib_ih7x99: This computer is obviously 32-bit, correct?
[21:35] <yao_ziyuan> me really itchy
[21:35] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: then holding down alt and ctrl then clicking and dragging should make the cube rotate
[21:35] <STSX> yaris12346789: Just make sure you install Ubuntu after Vista, not the other way around. :)
[21:35] <yaris12346789> hahah y es
[21:35] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Yes. Intel Pentium M, designed for XP Tablet Edition, with 512MB RAM and a 1.2GHz CPU.
[21:35] <glitsj16> smax: Like Axel said, install Helix, or use mplayer
[21:35] <smax> i run firefox.
[21:35] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Not the fastest machine, but it's not bad for an ultraportable. (8" screen)
[21:35] <smax> is this a firefox plugin
[21:35] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Good that you know your hardware specs.
[21:36] <Noxide> I'm running Hardy and i've gone through the entire faq, but still cannot get my Broadcom WIFI card to work with UBUNTU. Any suggestions? Its a x64 release and my card is BCM4311
[21:36] <Axel> smax: Helix is your best bet unless you're using a 64-bit machine
[21:36] <glitsj16> smax: mplayer plugin plays realmedia just fine
[21:36] <smax> kk thanx folks
[21:36] <drake> back
[21:36] <onthefence928> shit my fire fox got all kinds of fucked
[21:36] <ompaul> !language | onthefence928
[21:36] <ubot3`> onthefence928: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:36] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Well, there are all these stickers on this computer... Intel Inside! :-)
[21:36] <prabakaran> wait a min
[21:37] <arch> mib_ih7x99: XD, well, i'm still looking for the Hardware Spec program...
[21:37] <onthefence928> for some reason my firefox3 that came preinstalled on my ubuntu is all messed up, I lost all my bookmarks and my add-ons don't work
[21:37] <mib_ih7x99> Anyone here use the `onboard' onscreen keyboard? I'd like it to dock at the bottom of the screen so maximize works, but I don't know if that's possible.
[21:37] <onthefence928> and reinstalling didn't work
[21:37] <arch> You know where Xorg.conf is, right, mib_ih7x99?
[21:37] <Slart> onthefence928: it's firefox 3 beta?.. or even more messed up than that?
[21:37] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Well, I know most of the specs about this machine, and if you need anything else I can dig it up for you
[21:38] <drak1> back
[21:38] <prabakaran> yes it rotates . thanks invader
[21:38] <freethinker> can anybody say to me how can i see ubuntu in 2 monitores?
[21:38] <onthefence928> it's firefox3 that came with my hardy heron installing
[21:38] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Xorg? Tell me about it. I've had to dpkg-reconfigure the xserver about 15 times :-)
[21:38] <Slart> !dual | freethinker
[21:38] <drak1> !fixres | drak1
[21:38] <ubot3`> Factoid dual not found
[21:38] <arch> mib_ih7x99:If you can, use the pastebin at paste.ubuntu.com and paste your Xorg.conf in there.
[21:38] <onthefence928> I used WUBI by the way
[21:38] <STSX> Noxide: If you do a "lsmod | grep bcm" does it return anything?
[21:38] <freethinker> dont understand
[21:38] <Slart> !twinview | freethinker
[21:38] <ubot3`> freethinker: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[21:38] <freethinker> yes i have go there
[21:38] <Slart> !dualhead | freethinker
[21:38] <ubot3`> freethinker: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[21:38] <freethinker> but stiil i could not do
[21:39] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Ah, lol. I've also had some trouble installing a driver for a Manhattan graphics tablet, I haven't solved it so far.
[21:39] <freethinker> its on console?
[21:39] <drak1> Amaranth: sorry I had to reboot after running ﻿sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[21:39] <mib_ih7x99> arch: My xorg.conf file was autogenerated, and there isn't anything special in there. What were you looking for?
[21:39] <Slart> freethinker: I can't really help you beyond that.. I only use one monitor myself
[21:39] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: np
[21:39] <Noxide> STSX: Nope :(
[21:39] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Is it a passive or active digitizer? (passive = touchscreen, active works only with a pen, but the pen can move the mouse as well as click and erase)
[21:39] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Really, I'm not sure. I'm not exactly a professional of Ubuntu, but I can find my way around :(
[21:39] <STSX> Noxide: OK how about "lsmod | grep b43"?
[21:40] <prabakaran> and how to make fire effect wen i close d window ?
[21:40] <onthefence928> ﻿Slart: it came with my hardy heron install, I used wubi
[21:40] <Noxide> STSX: yes, it returns a bunch of stuff. want me to put it in here?
[21:40] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Same here. I've been using *nix machines for a few years, and I can figure most things out--the more complicated stuff, though, I need help with :-)
[21:40] <STSX> prabakaran: I heard a blow torch works really well for that. :)
[21:40] <atlef> !compiz > prabakaran:
[21:40] <yacc> Any idea why apt-get dist-upgrade makes me drop language packages?
[21:41] <STSX> Noxide: Please pastebin it: paste.ubuntu.com
[21:41] <prabakaran> i dont know d keybidings for tat
[21:41] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Well, if I can't find it out, there is one person who can solve just about everything. His name is Jack_Sparrow, and he's usually on during weekdays.
[21:41] <Noxide> heh k, give me a min. let me connect my laptop via ethernet so i dont have to type it all :-P
[21:41] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: i think thats in the plugin called animation
[21:41] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Do you know anything about xorg modules? There's an actual driver for my touchscreen at conan.de, but I can't make it work--I'm assuming that Ubuntu's Xorg is too new or something.
[21:42] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Which module is this?
[21:42] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: you can find out the key bindings for plugins by going into the settings for the plugin. thats how i know them.
[21:42] <amenado> whose got two video cards and is able to use them at same time? may I copy your xorg.conf file so I can make mine work too?
[21:42] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Thanks--I'll try and drop by sometime during the week then. The module is at http://conan.de/touchscreen/p-series.html
[21:42] <amenado> i got a old cheap matrox millineum
[21:42] <steph33560> thanks guys for the help !
[21:42] <mib_ih7x99> !battery
[21:42] <ubot3`> Factoid battery not found
[21:42] <prabakaran> brb
[21:42] <Noxide> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16271/
[21:42] <mib_ih7x99> ubot3`: ACPI
[21:42] <ubot3`> Factoid acpi not found
[21:42] <steph33560> bd time  ççççççççççççççççç
[21:43] <Noxide> STSX:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16271/
[21:43] <steph33560> sorry my kitten just type "enter"
[21:43] <steph33560> time to go to bed, bye !
[21:43] <arch> mib_ih7x99: What went wrong in this module?
[21:44] <Ashfire908> Has anyone here used apt-proxy?
[21:44] <smax> not working
[21:44] <mDemocritus> ok i'm trying to roll back to the 2.6.22-14 kernel to fix a sata/ide driver issue problem with the new kernel, but when i boot from the old kernel, X doesn't start, i get lines in my Xorg.log of (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device... suggestions?
[21:44] <smax> it invokes mplayer.  but the file is not playing
[21:44] <arch> mib_ih7x99: And yes, I've had some experience with Xorg mods.
[21:44] <Kitu> when i install aptana jaxer and configure it, and lauch it :
[21:44] <Kitu> /opt/AptanaJaxer/Apache22/bin/httpd: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:44] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Well, I installed setserial, and put the referenced command in bootmisc.sh (along with a chmod a+rwx /dev/ttyS0 to let the perl "driver" work)
[21:44] <Kitu> :(
[21:44] <Kitu> somebody know this error ?
[21:44] <Ashfire908> mDemocritus, you might not have the driver in the old kernel modules that xorg is set to use
[21:45] <mib_ih7x99> arch: I dumped the driver in the appropriate directory (I forget the exact path, but kbd_drv.so and the other drivers were in there)
[21:45] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Wow, you almost know more than I do...\
[21:45] <STSX> Noxide: Well that's a good sign--the b43 module is the latest module in Hardy for Broadcom chipsets, and I think it's supposed to work with the BCM4311. So if you do "ifconfig" and "iwconfig" what do you get? And what happens when you try and connect thru System > Admin > Network?
[21:45] <smax> and helix is not in the repos
[21:45] <Ashfire908> Kitu, you are missing a shared libary. make sure you have the package for the libary installed.
[21:45] <mDemocritus> Ashfire908: so i have to use a different xorg.conf? would the upgrade to hardy have wiped the old one, or made a backup?
[21:46] <smax> ok helix-player
[21:46] <STSX> Noxide: ...and it looks like b43 is loaded according to lsmod.
[21:46] <mib_ih7x99> arch: I tried ~15 different variations on my xorg.conf file, and all I could do was completely disable my mouse. I had to hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and edit xorg.conf from there (and you have no idea how many times I had to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :-))
[21:46] <Kitu> Ashfire908, i have libexpat but the ubuntu package don't contain libexpat.so.0
[21:46] <Ashfire908> mDemocritus, you have to check that it's using the correct module.
[21:46] <prabakaran> i couldnt find d keybidings
[21:46] <Kitu> juste libexpat.so.1 and libexpat.so.1...
[21:46] <Kitu> -e
[21:46] <Ashfire908> mDemocritus, sorry, Ive actually never done an upgrade.
[21:46] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: so you want it so that when you close a window it bursts into flames?
[21:46] <prabakaran> yes
[21:47] <Ashfire908> Kitu, is what your using designed to be on ubuntu
[21:47] <mDemocritus> Ashfire908: np that gets me started
[21:47] <mib_ih7x99> arch: The instructions reference /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input; a `locate kbd_drv' found the appropriate directory
[21:47] <Noxide> STSX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16272/
[21:47] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: ok, give me a second
[21:47] <onthefence928> hey does anybody know why my firefox3 lost all of it's settings and broke it's bookmarks and add-ons?
[21:47] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Okay, I'm clueless as to how to fix this kind of problem. This appears to be a graphics problem, and I've worked with Amaranth to pretty much solve one.
[21:47] <mib_ih7x99> arch: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input (/usr/X11R6/lib doesn't exist)
[21:47] <prabakaran> ok
[21:47] <choosebreakfast> How would I go about getting to irc.what.cd?
[21:47] <Kitu> Ashfire908, why i use ubuntu (sorry i understand only basic english)
[21:47] <Noxide> STSX: When I try and connect it just sits there and eventually DOES NOT connect. Takes forever for it to stop trying too.
[21:47] <glitsj16> mdemocritus: hardy has a new Xorg, changes are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XORGHardy
[21:48] <Kitu> Ashfire908,  normally it work on debian libexpat.so.0
[21:48] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Whoa whoa whoa! I remember that error when I was installing my graphics tablet...
[21:48] <InvaderAmoto> onthefence929: i've had that problem before. i had to go to system monitor and force quit all open firefox's then whne i open it i have to choose restore. try that
[21:48] <owen1> startx loads xfce. how do i change the default to be something else (i am not usig gdm).
[21:48] <Kitu> this library is in the debian package but not for ubuntu :(
[21:48] <icqnumber> mDemocritus: maybe u just need to reinstall the nvidia driver...
[21:48] <Noxide> STSX: I've tried it with WEP/WPA and Unsecured networks, I have other boxes connected wirelessly so I assume its some setting or something wrong in ubuntu.
[21:48] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Well, I'm probably going to have to settle for Sam Engstrom's perl driver--I've rigged it up in such a way that it works tolerably.
[21:48] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Try mkdir /usr/x11r6/lib
[21:48] <Ashfire908> Kitu, that was basic english. Is the program that you are trying to use designed to run on ubuntu?
[21:48] <Kitu> Ashfire908, aptana jaxer
[21:48] <mib_ih7x99> arch: At first I ran `mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input' and dumped the driver there; that didn't work.
[21:49] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Clueless again :P
[21:49] <icqnumber> mDemocritus: this will update ur old kernel
[21:49] <Ashfire908> Kitu, I don't know what that is.
[21:49] <mib_ih7x99> arch: I'm not sure if the driver was even loaded or whether it's compatible with whatever X11 system Hardy uses. :-S
[21:49] <Amaranth> mib_ih7x99: The driver API/ABI has changed since we were using /usr/X11R6 for stuff so the driver will almost certainly not work
[21:49] <Kitu> it is an AJAX IDE over eclipse
[21:49] <Amaranth> mib_ih7x99: Your logs probably show it failing to load the driver at all since there is an ABI mismatch
[21:49] <arch> Amaranth: Ouch.
[21:50] <stu> when using vim is there a way to delete an entire line at a time, or delete a selection - rather than holding down the delete key forever ?
[21:50] <snap-l> stu: dd deletes a line
[21:50] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: go to the settings for animations
[21:50] <prabakaran> ok n ?
[21:50] <stu> aha thanks
[21:50] <snap-l> stu: dw deletes a word
[21:50] <STSX> Noxide: Well, maybe try connecting manually: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "the_AP_name"   and then maybe "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
[21:50] <snap-l> stu: d$ deletes to the end of the line
[21:51] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: and uncheck everything except butn
[21:51] <stu> cool thanks snap-l
[21:51] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: i mean burn
[21:51] <snap-l> NP
[21:51] <prabakaran> ok brb
[21:51] <onthefence928> ﻿InvaderAmoto: I tried that jus﻿InvaderAmotony other ideas?t now, it doesn't work. I had also tried reinstalling via synaptic, a
[21:51] <Noxide> STSX: Ok, one second, let me try those two commands.
[21:51] <mDemocritus> icqnumber: it will update the old one? you're sure?
[21:51] <STSX> Noxide: For troubleshooting, try using the AP you know is unsecured.
[21:51] <mib_ih7x99> Amaranth: Thanks. I'll try recompiling it (the sources are available). Aside from `xorg-dev', what packages will I need?
[21:51] <Amaranth> mib_ih7x99: No idea
[21:51] <arch> mib_ih7x99: In that case, your functionality with the touchscreen is limited until someone, or if you feel like it, YOU, creates a driver for this touchscreen. I think.
[21:51] <mDemocritus> where would i find out when the next kernel release will be?
[21:52] <icqnumber> mDemocritus: load it and then try to reinstall nvidia
[21:52] <mib_ih7x99> Amaranth: The driver is at http://conan.de/touchscreen/p-series.html if you're curious.
[21:52] <onthefence928> ﻿InvaderAmoto: i meant: yeah I tried what you said, and it didn't work, I also reinstalled via synaptic, I didn't work either
[21:52] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Wow, Amaranth makes me sound like a babbling monkey
[21:52] <mDemocritus> icqnumber: load the old kernel and try reinstalling the nvidia driver?
[21:52] <Amaranth> mib_ih7x99: If you need more than what xorg-dev pulls in something is probably wrong though :)
[21:52] <arch> Jack_Sparrow: Hey jack
[21:52] <icqnumber> mDemocritus: mine is 2.6.24-17-generic
[21:52] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Well, I don't know how to write an actual driver, but if I can recompile this one I can try to make a .deb
[21:52] <InvaderAmoto> onthefence929: did you try restarting the computer? i'm out of ideas though
[21:53] <Noxide> STSX: When I type "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" it gives me a "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" error.
[21:53] <mib_ih7x99> Amaranth: Thanks. Let me download the source and see if I can compile it. Wish me luck :-)
[21:53] <icqnumber> mDemocritus: yep
[21:53] <arch> mib_ih7x99 Well, you know more than me, I've just found out... ._.
[21:53] <onthefence928> ﻿InvaderAmoto: yeah I did
[21:53] <mDemocritus> icqnumber:  right... the 2.6.24-17 and -16 kernels won't allow me to mount my second hard drive... the 2.6.22-14 does
[21:53] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Well, thanks for your help anyway! :-)
[21:53] <eyes`only> is there a way to change the sensitivity for a 'tap=click' in the touchpad?
[21:53] <arch> mib_ih7x99: Yw.
[21:53] <prabakaran> im back
[21:54] <STSX> Noxide: When you tried connecting thru the "Network" GUI, did you make sure you only enabled "checked" the wireless adapter, and unchecked your ethernet?
[21:54] <mDemocritus> icqnumber: from what i've been reading on bugzilla and all, it looks like an upstream kernel issue
[21:54] <arch> Any other non-graphics related problems?
[21:54] <Noxide> STSX: I think so, but let me try again.
[21:54] <arch> choosebreakfast, problem?
[21:55] <puff> On my new hardy install, the clock doesn't seem to keep synchronized.
[21:55] <choosebreakfast> Yes, I am new to IRC, I don't know anything about it, and I am trying to find a way to connect to a server, but I don't know how
[21:55] <mib_ih7x99> Amaranth: This driver "should work for XFree 4.x and Xorg 6.8.x and higher." Last update was 09/06/07 (I'm assuming that's 9 June, but it's ambiguous).
[21:55] <InvaderAmoto> ok prabakaran in the animation settings, uncheck all the random effects except burn
[21:55] <prabakaran> wen i close d window d fire effect not workin
[21:55] <arch> puff: Your current time and your system time?
[21:55]  * chalcedony smiles
[21:55] <prabakaran> i did tat
[21:55] <choosebreakfast> it's supposed to be irc.what.cd
[21:55] <mib_ih7x99> Amaranth: Do you think simply recompiling it will be enough, or do I need to actually change the source code?
[21:55] <choosebreakfast> I am curious, but what I tried was apparently wrong
[21:56] <puff> arch: Both, AFAIK.  What's "current time"?
[21:56] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: then go to the effect settings tab and check the first check box: random animations for all events
[21:56] <chalcedony> i'm trying to find the mount point for my usb stick on hardy?
[21:56] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: that will make the windows burn everytime they are opened or closed
[21:56] <arch> arch: The time in your area.
[21:56] <prabakaran> brb
[21:56] <arch> puff: The time in your area.
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> prabakaran Are you talking about paint fire on the screen or a diff fire effect?
[21:56] <puff> arch: Both the shell command "date" and the clock in the taksbar show the same time, which is currently noon instead of 5pm.  I have the time zone set to New York.
[21:56] <arch> Lol i addressed a message myself
[21:56] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: its possible to just make it so it does that when its closed but you'll have to ask someboady else about it
[21:56] <wasabi> So... having some serious problem swith two boxes. I think the problem is with NFS> Random segfaults when streaming movies over NFS
[21:57] <wasabi> Latest hardy.
[21:57] <STSX> choosebreakfast: should maybe try: /server irc.what.cd
[21:57] <wasabi> Since two boxes are doing it, and it only happens when I'm doing NFS... it seems related.
[21:57] <puff> arch: Yeah, my system time and the correct local wall clock time.
[21:57] <InvaderAmoto> Jack_Sparrow: he wants it so that when a window closes it bursts into flames
[21:57] <arch> Puff: How far off are they?
[21:57] <eyes`only> is there a way to change the sensitivity for a tap on the touchpad?
[21:57] <puff> arch: 5 hours.
[21:57] <ggeecko> is there a way to make aterm stay on top if it is borderless
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> InvaderAmoto But that is not "Paint Fire on The Screen"  if that is what he thinks
[21:57] <eva-roxi> wer hat erfahrung mit starmoney und ubuntu unter wine
[21:58] <puff> arch: Looks like it might bea time zone issue, but I do have the correct location selecte.d
[21:58] <InvaderAmoto> Jack_Sparrow: i no. i told him its in animations
[21:58] <choosebreakfast> thank you
[21:58] <mib_ih7x99> Bother. Both the README and NEWS files in this source package are 0 bytes. That's helpful...
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[21:58] <Noxide> STSX: How should I disable ethernet? I put it to roaming mode and unplugged the ethernet cable.
[21:58] <STSX> !de | eva-roxi
[21:58] <ubot3`> eva-roxi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:58] <arch> puff: You would need to change your time zone, unfortunately. Has this been moving off to 5 hours gradually or instantly
[21:58] <DanaG> Argh, my VMs under my system can't reach the internet.
[21:58] <puff> arch: Instantly.
[21:58] <arch> puff: Yep, timezone problem.
[21:58] <prabakaran> it works . thanks n 1 more doubt
[21:58] <DanaG> I can ping the host computer from the guest, and vice versa, but forwarding seems to be broken.
[21:59] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: i figured out how to make it so it only burns when a window is closed if your interested in that
[21:59] <glitsj16> puff: activate NTP (via system > time & date i think, using xubuntu myself so this could differ) .. set the "keep synchronized with internet servers" option and choose some nearby servers
[21:59] <puff> arch: There were a few times I adjused the date & time and clicked on "keep synchronized",e tc, that it worked, but then it went back to showing the wrong time zone, and now trying that doesnt' seem to have any effect.
[21:59] <arch> puff: If it completely drives you MAD having the wrong timezone but the right time, reformat.
[21:59] <puff> glitsj16: Yes, I already did that.
[21:59] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Wow, that's a little drastic :-)
[22:00] <STSX> Noxide: When you pull up the Network program, there should just be a checkbox next to their names when you pull up the Network program--just check the wireless one.
[22:00] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: i'll brb. i gotta do something really quick
[22:00] <prabakaran> ok
[22:00] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Do you know anything about Li-Ion batteries?
[22:00] <adi_> i have a problem with ubuntu
[22:01] <arch> mib_ih7x99: So? I don't know how to solve stuff like this. I'm more comfortable answering beginner questions like, "How do I compile source"
[22:01] <adi_> can i ask it here ?
[22:01] <bpds> Anyone else having trouble with gnome printing?  Firefox and Evolution won't print.  OpenOffice prints fine.  All KDE apps print fine.
[22:01] <Starnestommy> !ask | adi_
[22:01] <ubot3`> adi_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:01] <puff> It does not appear to affect the date/time.
[22:01] <arch> mib_ih7x99: God, your name is hard to type over and over... Not really.
[22:01] <Noxide> STSX: See, it works very weird for me. Unless I manually set it up, it wont let me put the checkbox there. If I leave it on roaming it will be a "-" So I set up Ethernet to roaming and wireless to a "check" but it goes away everytime i close the window
[22:01] <chalcedony> does anyone know how to locate the mount point for my usb stick on hardy?
[22:01] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Sorry--let me change it to something less unpleasant. (I'm on mibbit.com, a web IRC interface.)
[22:01] <arch> Noxide: Kind of like the Userspace File System in the CCSM, right?
[22:01] <choosebreakfast> irc://irc.bitient.org/what.cd
[22:01] <mDemocritus> arch: try typing the first couple letters of the nick and hitting tab
[22:01] <choosebreakfast> oi
[22:02] <adi_> ok.. so when i load ubuntu it doesnt fully load to the desktop..but stops at a msdos screan that says something with interframes.. or something like that..
[22:02] <chalcedony> bpds: which way are you accessing the printer?
[22:02] <arch> mDemocritus: Oh, thanks.
[22:02] <ggeecko> arch: TAB is your friend
[22:02] <STSX> Noxide: I don't get it then. As another check, is wlan0 listed in your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file?
[22:02] <mDemocritus> arch: np i just found that out myself a couple hours ago
[22:02] <bpds> chalcedony: Menu - File - Print
[22:02] <adi_> PROBLEM :  when i load ubuntu it doesnt fully load to the desktop..but stops at a msdos screan that says something with interframes.. or something like that..
[22:03] <Noxide> should I just "more" that file to see?
[22:03] <chalcedony> bpds: rats, that's what i was going to tell you.
[22:03] <STSX> Noxide: Sure. :)
[22:03] <Noxide> STSX: Should I be in roaming mode? or regular.
[22:03] <arch> mib: Wait, do you have Ubuntu loaded now?
[22:03] <chalcedony> does anyone know how to locate the mount point for a usb stick on hardy?
[22:04] <adi_> arch was that for me ?
[22:04] <mib_ih7x99> arch: Sorry--mibbit barfed on me when I tried to change nicks.
[22:04] <STSX> Noxide: Don't use roaming mode--connect to a specific AP that is unsecured, and use DHCP for the addressing.
[22:04] <simi> adi_: did you made something before the problem appeared?
[22:04] <amenado> chalcedony-> type  mount
[22:04] <Jack_Sparrow> InvaderAmoto You back yet
[22:04] <adi_> simi i updated the system
[22:04] <adi_> didnt do anything manual
[22:04] <Kitu> Ashfire908, sudo ln -s libexpat.so.1 libexpat.so.0 correct the problem
[22:04] <InvaderAmoto> i'm back
[22:04] <Noxide> STSX: I've tried to do that, but I cant choose "Unsecured" so I put in the WPA information, and that does not work.
[22:04] <bpds> chalcedony: Try /media
[22:05] <CroX> How do I get output to my TV? It's connected with a S-Video cable from my Nvidia card to a SCART input on the TV.
[22:05] <Noxide> STSX: wlan0 IS listed in that file.
[22:05] <arch> mib_ih7x99, go to Terminal, and type in "sudo apt-get install xchat". Follow the prompt and launch Xchat when you're done. Easier interface, I would guess. You can use your Ubuntu username default with it.
[22:05] <dlrr> hello
[22:05] <mDemocritus> wow mibbit kicks butt... like meebo for irc :D
[22:05] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: you still need help?
[22:05] <arch> Well, i gotta go. Peace, ppl
[22:05] <prabakaran> yes
[22:05] <simi> adi_update , did a kerenel upgrade happen? or do you know what packages had been upfdated?
[22:05] <amenado> whose got two video cards and is able to use them at same time? may I copy your xorg.conf file so I can make mine work too?  I have a matrox millenium and nvidia riva tnt2
[22:05] <Jack_Sparrow> InvaderAmoto I have a question on animations..Under window match.. where can I find a list of options
[22:05] <STSX> Noxide: You're right you can't choose "unsecured", you just have to choose WEP/WPA but leave the password blank. (They really should change that).
[22:06] <prabakaran> how to make background wen rotate d cube ?
[22:06] <killerboy> hey
[22:06] <nuno_nunes> HI PPL
[22:06] <adi_> can someone tell me if there's a way to do a scan to see if ubuntu is configured corectly or if it has all the files? cuz it doesnt load properly.. it stops at a msdos type screan that says "interframes" or something like that
[22:06] <Noxide> STSX: Should I change my network to unsecured, or just keep putting the WPA information in it.
[22:06] <DanaG> Argh!
[22:06] <simi> adi_:  what ubuntu version do you have?
[22:06] <killerboy> some games are minimalizing and maximalizing
[22:06] <adi_> simi where can i check
[22:06] <DanaG> If I don't install ipmasq..... my VM can't access the internet.
[22:06] <InvaderAmoto> Jack_Sparrow: i'm not sure. sorry
[22:06] <killerboy> when turning compiz off it's all right
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:06] <Raider1> Is there something going on with us.archive.ubuntu.com ?? .. Every time I try an apt-get update I get a ton of 404 errors, and can't even do an apt-get install on a package that was listed in an apt-cache search
[22:06] <STSX> Noxide: Definitely change it to unsecured for troubleshooting purposes here...
[22:06] <DanaG> If I DO install ipmasq.... I can't get any DNS records!
[22:06] <DanaG> I get "REFUSED" when I try to 'dig'.
[22:07] <glitsj16> Jack_Sparrow: looking for the window matching guide ? http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/WindowMatching
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> InvaderAmoto do you know know to add effect to opening.minimizing a window/app
[22:07] <adi_> simi gnome version 2.22.2
[22:07] <simi> i belive is something in the menu that contains the turn off, about ubuntu
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> glitsj16 thanks
[22:07] <glitsj16> Jack_Sparrow: yw
[22:07] <simi> adi_: do you have hardy?
[22:07] <adi_> simi: my ubuntu should be up to date
[22:07] <adi_> simi: what's that
[22:08] <chalcedony> ty amenado , bpds
[22:08] <Ashfire908> Kitu, ok, just make sure it's the same version.
[22:08] <amenado> chalcedony-> cool
[22:08] <amenado> whose got two video cards and is able to use them at same time? may I copy your xorg.conf file so I can make mine work too?  I have a matrox millenium and nvidia riva tnt2
[22:08] <DanaG> How exactly can a dns server REFUSE to serve a record?
[22:08] <InvaderAmoto> Jack_Sparrow: ya let me answer prabakaran first: go to the desktop cube settings and go to the appearance tab
[22:08] <prabakaran> ok
[22:08] <Starnestommy> DanaG: sounds like an error with the server
[22:08] <simi> adi_ hardy is the latest version of ubuntu
[22:08] <Ashfire908> Kitu, I'm basicly away now, if you need help you have to find another person to help you with anything else.
[22:08] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: under background images click new and browse for the image
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> InvaderAmoto Got it thanks
[22:09] <belkinhelp2_> help
[22:09] <mib_ih7x99> !ask | belkinhelp2
[22:09] <ubot3`> belkinhelp2: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:09] <prabakaran> brb
[22:09] <adi_> simi: so what should i do now
[22:09] <belkinhelp2_> got a weird situation here....i can get to the google website but no other site....does that mean there is something wrong with the ISP DNS?
[22:10] <socr> how can I have a script run autom. just after the installation ?
[22:10] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: Who's your ISP?
[22:10] <amenado> belkinhelp2-> paste your  /etc/resol.conf
[22:10] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: You're obviously able to get to IRC...
[22:10] <simi> adi_: if you did not edit the configuration files manualy or install something unsuported i do not have any ideea, i sugest to write the errors messages that appears ad search on google
[22:10] <belkinhelp2_> mib_ih7x99 Alice, its a subsidary of AOL
[22:10] <belkinhelp2_> true
[22:10] <belkinhelp2_> so i cant understand why other pages wont resolve
[22:10] <eraldo> having troubles opening .mov links... Ubuntu Hardy 64bit FF3
[22:10] <adi_> simi is there a way to reset all the settings to default ?
[22:10] <belkinhelp2_> my internet phone is working as well
[22:10] <InvaderAmoto> wait prabakaran
[22:11] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: Hm. I use Earthlink (yuch), and they taint their DNS with ads. Can you `host domainname.com' in your Terminal?
[22:11] <simi> adi_: i do not know if it is posible to reconfigure xorg in ubuntu hardy? ANYONE ?
[22:11] <glitsj16> eraldo: are you using any plugins that can play .mov ?
[22:11] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: its under skydome. you have to enable it with the check box then browse for it.
[22:11] <simi> adi_: no
[22:11] <adi_> fuck
[22:11] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: Hit Alt-F2, type in gnome-terminal, and then try typing in `host slashdot.org', `host ubuntu.com', that sort of thing.
[22:11] <Seeker`> !language | adi_
[22:11] <ubot3`> adi_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:11] <useless_k1tty> adi_: no bad language here, please
[22:11] <simi> adi_: but the message error shoud tell what the problem is
[22:11] <Noxide> STSX: I have it set up the way you say and it doesnt even show that its trying to connect to a Wireless network. Also, when I go to the Wireless networks window, no networks come up. :\
[22:11] <InvaderAmoto> Jack_Sparrow: go to the animations settings
[22:12] <adi_> wow.. everybody responded if i swore.. but nobody when i have a problem
[22:12] <adi_> cool
[22:12] <prabakaran> skydome ?
[22:12] <eraldo> ﻿glitsj16: QuickTime Plug-in 7.2.0 is listed in the about:plugins site
[22:12] <simi> adi_: and at start up there is other optons like an safe mode try use that
[22:12] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: ya
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> InvaderAmoto got it
[22:12] <simi> adi_: it will try to reconfigure the X system
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[22:12] <belkinhelp2_> slashdot.org has address 216.34.181.45
[22:12] <belkinhelp2_> slashdot.org mail is handled by 10 mx.vasoftware.com.
[22:12] <adi_> simi: i HAVE to use that to enter the os.. other wise it stops at a msdos screan
[22:12] <belkinhelp2_> well that seemed to work
[22:12] <marcules> Good evening :D
[22:12] <prabakaran> ok i will try
[22:12] <belkinhelp2_> what does that mean?
[22:12] <InvaderAmoto> Jack_Sparrow: oh you figured it out?
[22:12] <STSX> Noxide: OK not a good sign obviously... Hang on let me check a few things and maybe we can figure out what's going on...
[22:12] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: So your DNS is fine--your problem is most likely with your browser.
[22:13] <belkinhelp2_> ugh
[22:13] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: You use Firefox, I take it?
[22:13] <belkinhelp2_> yes
[22:13] <Noxide> STSX: Ok, thank you very much.
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> InvaderAmoto yep, it was right in front of me.. I was being lazy
[22:13] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: Are you on 8.04? (If you are, then you're using Firefox 3 beta 5.)
[22:13] <owen1> can i remove the line . /etc/X11/Xsession from xinitrc ?
[22:13] <belkinhelp2_> I'll try rebooting and see if it resets itself
[22:13] <InvaderAmoto> Jack_Sparrow: oh, haha
[22:13] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: Do you have any extensions installed?
[22:13] <belkinhelp2_> no...im on gibous gibbon
[22:13] <belkinhelp2_> yes, adblock plus
[22:14] <belkinhelp2_> brb
[22:14] <eraldo> ﻿glitsj16: any ideas ?
[22:14] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: Adblock Plus ftw! :-) On a more serious note, try opening Firefox in safe mode.
[22:14] <simi> adi_: try later i can't help you, i do not have experience with this
[22:14] <glitsj16> eraldo: does the .mov file load at all ? try checking the firefox preferences and see what the default action is right now .. u can find those under preferences > applications
[22:14] <fxfitz> Can anyone help me get my VPN client software working?
[22:14] <DanaG> Aah, now it's working... the dns server.
[22:14] <DanaG> Oddly, it was broken earlier.
[22:15] <yaris12346789> on my laptop i have like core2duo T7250 @ 2ghz 2ghz with 1790mb of ram....should i get ubuntu instead of xubuntu ?
[22:15] <ompaul> yaris12346789, yes
[22:15] <InvaderAmoto> yaris123456789: i would
[22:15] <adi_> simi: i have hardy vers 8.04
[22:15] <yaris12346789> why is that ?
[22:15] <mib_ih7x99> yaris12346789: Xubuntu is more for my P3 clocked at 900MHz with 128MB ram :-)
[22:15] <STSX> Noxide: I forgot to ask and just assumed, but you are on Hardy, correct?
[22:15] <ompaul> you have the speed and
[22:15] <catracams> alguém do brasil?
[22:15] <yaris12346789> ah
[22:15] <Noxide> STSX: Yes hardy.
[22:15] <ompaul> !br | catracams
[22:15] <ubot3`> catracams: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:15] <glitsj16> eraldo: just a moment, checking a possible alternative option, brb
[22:15] <prabakaran> i got it thank u very much invader
[22:16] <InvaderAmoto> prabakaran: your welcome
[22:16] <catracams> ok
[22:16] <catracams> obrigado
[22:16] <bloodrock> adi_,  did you try the restore option in grub menu
[22:16] <simi> adi_: if you do not have hardy then you can try this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760
[22:17] <STSX> Noxide: What is the version of your BCM4311 chipset--version 1 or 2? (I think you can find that with "sudo lshw -C network")
[22:17] <belkinhelp2_> hey
[22:17] <belkinhelp2_> just wanted to say thanks
[22:17] <adi_> bloodrock:  whats the grub menu
[22:17] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: It works?
[22:17] <fxfitz> Can anyone tell me how to add my username and password for a VPN with Network Manger's VPNC plugin?
[22:17] <belkinhelp2_> seems the reboot fixed the browser problem
[22:17] <n0kS> hello, I want to give permissions to a friend to access a folder on my Desktop. How can I do this without changing folder's location and without giving him my pass? :) Is there a way via SSH ??
[22:17] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: Go figure. I was going to suggest Safe Mode--give that a shot next time.
[22:17] <adi_> bloodrock:  if its the safe menu i did try that
[22:18] <friggityfrog> how do I check the kind of CPU I have?
[22:18] <belkinhelp2_> no idea what happened.  It started right after I switched out the router with another one
[22:18] <belkinhelp2_> is firefox router sensitive somehow?
[22:18] <glitsj16> eraldo: is that the mplayer plugin yiu use for .mov files ? It might conflict with another plugin you have installed that does the same thing, like totem for instance .. not sure what you have plugin wise .. try deactivating plugins that support the same mime-type ..
[22:18] <GigaClon> how to i upgrade to 8.04 using the CD?
[22:18] <adi_> what is the grub menu ??????
[22:18] <bloodrock> adi_, you install hardy from a cd or did you do an upgrade
[22:18] <mib_ih7x99> belkinhelp2_: Not that I'm aware of.
[22:19] <mib_ih7x99> !grub | adi_
[22:19] <ubot3`> adi_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:19] <adi_> instal from image inside windows
[22:19] <Noxide> STSX: Rev 1, that command didnt work, but "lspc -v | grep Broadcom" did.
[22:19] <owen1> how to check for updates from the terminal?
[22:19] <adi_> bloodrock: i installed from image under windows
[22:19] <ojintoad> Howdy all, I'd like to help debug an issue with rhythmbox that seems to be fairly rare.  I'm experiencing it right now and it disappears on reboot so I'd like to take this opportunity while it's around.
[22:19] <friggityfrog> are my idle temp's high? Doing nothing, acpi -t returns about 50c
[22:20] <bloodrock> adi_, grub menu is the boot menu . so you used wubi
[22:20] <mushtaq> hi i want to takeout data from a LVM partition on one hard drive
[22:20] <mushtaq> is there any package for that ?
[22:20] <tsaikimon> is there a way to login to any user account if you are the admin
[22:20] <tsaikimon> ?
[22:20] <adi_> bloodrock: i think so.. yes
[22:20] <mib_ih7x99> tsaikimon: `su username'
[22:20] <adi_> bloodrock: and it created another image on a partition
[22:20] <friggityfrog> anyone? is 50c a bad idle temp for a pentium M 1.5ghz
[22:20] <bloodrock> adi_,  is the error bufferframes
[22:20] <mib_ih7x99> friggityfrog: What kind of computer do you have?
[22:21] <adi_> bloodrock:  i can restart my pc and tell you the exact error
[22:21] <tsaikimon> thank you mib_ih7
[22:21] <adi_> bloodrock:  it stops loading and i can see only an msdos prompt image
[22:21] <tsaikimon> can i do that at gdm
[22:21] <tsaikimon> ?
[22:21] <mib_ih7x99> friggityfrog: 50ºC sounds pretty high to me... My Pent M 1.2GHz doesn't get that hot under normal use.
[22:21] <friggityfrog> mib_ih7x99: an old gateway laptop... it's kind of a POS
[22:21] <bloodrock> adi_,  ok do that that would for sure help
[22:21] <owen1> how to check for updates from the terminal?
[22:21] <adi_> bloodrock:  saying ifraframes
[22:21] <adi_> bloodrock:  brb
[22:21] <CroX> This is crazy.. However much I try there's just no way I can get Ubuntu to show colored output to my TV. The colors are all fine when booting up, showing that orange/brown progress bar, but then it just decides to go B/W.
[22:21] <mib_ih7x99> friggityfrog: Are your fans working correctly?
[22:21] <n0kS> hello, I want to give permissions to a friend to access a folder on my Desktop. How can I do this without changing folder's location and without giving him my pass? :) Is there a way via SSH ??
[22:22] <friggityfrog> are my idle temp's high? Doing nothing, acpi -t returns about 50c
[22:22] <friggityfrog> oops, sorry repeat
[22:22] <STSX> Noxide: Try removing the b43 module and reinstalling it, and then check ifconfig and see if it lists wlan0: "sudo modprobe -r b43" "sudo modprobe b43" and then "ifconfig"
[22:22] <RAdams> has anyone successfully installed Lotus Symphony?
[22:22] <mib_ih7x99> friggityfrog: Well, I've got to get going, but good luck with your computer
[22:22] <friggityfrog> mib_ih7x99: I'm not sure. The fan is on almost all the time
[22:22] <CroX> Anyone have any idea how to get Ubuntu to show colors, using S-Video out and SCART in to the TV?
[22:22] <friggityfrog> ok, thanks
[22:22] <mushtaq> hi how to extract data from LVM volume ?
[22:22] <mib_ih7x99> friggityfrog: that doesn't sound good, just off the top of my head
[22:22] <mib_ih7x99> anyway, peace out
[22:22] <friggityfrog> thanks, see ya
[22:23] <RAdams> friggityfrog: using smart fan or qfan control in your BIOS?
[22:23] <amenado> whose got two video cards and is able to use them at same time? may I copy your xorg.conf file so I can make mine work too?  I have a matrox millenium and nvidia riva tnt2
[22:23] <friggityfrog> RAdams: I have no idea
[22:23] <Noxide> STSX: It does not list wlan0 now
[22:23] <friggityfrog> RAdams: my bro installed ubuntu for me...
[22:23] <RAdams> friggityfrog: what's your computer? custom, factory built, etc?
[22:24] <RAdams> Has anyone installed Lotus Symphony successfully
[22:24] <mushtaq> hi how to extract data from LVM volume ?
[22:24] <friggityfrog> RAdams: a gateway craptop M405
[22:24] <brian_> i've got an interesting problem if anyone wants to help me to solve it.  Hardy discs on install are recognizing my drives improperly.  my primary master and slave are IDE and showing up as sdc and sdd instead of hda and hdb in the partitioner.  i also have two sata drives that are showing up as sda and sdb as they should.  when i install to sdc which should be hda grub errors out on boot.  any ideas?
[22:24] <LiraNuna> what's the gnome-build package in ubuntu?
[22:24] <RAdams> friggityfrog: ah. go into your bios when you boot, look under power management setup and turn off smart fan management
[22:24] <LiraNuna> liranuna@monster:~/Desktop/anjuta-2.4.2$ apt-cache search gnome-build
[22:24] <LiraNuna> liranuna@monster:~/Desktop/anjuta-2.4.2$
[22:25] <LiraNuna> am trying to compile anjuta and can't find anome-build in the repos
[22:25] <STSX> Noxide: I read in the ubuntu forums of people who have gotten the BCM4311 rev1 to work with the b43 module. But you may have to go with using ndiswrapper--do you have the Windows drivers for your wireless card?
[22:25] <LiraNuna> google insists gnome-build is a package in the repo
[22:25] <RAdams> brian_ hda has been deperecated.
[22:25] <friggityfrog> RAdams: Ok, what does that do? Will the OS handle it then?
[22:25] <genirc> hi - can I ask a real nubie q related to umlet on ubuntu?
[22:25] <liamwithers> any1 no how to install .daa file? apparently poweriso but i don't no how to install it (soz i'm only 14)
[22:25] <fiber> hello, i'm about to install ubuntu on my macbook and i need to decide between installing the amd64 or i386 version... i'm mainly doing scientific work so amd64 would be better for that but compatability is also an issue (i remember having hell before with lib64 and lib32)... any recommendations?
[22:25] <RAdams> friggityfrog: no, the fans will just run all the time. i was about to type back to you, do this to test and see if the temp runs lower more often
[22:26] <brian_> hrm. RAdams.. then how do I go about doing an install to said drive?  I use the two sda and sdb for media storage
[22:26] <GigaClon> !upgrade
[22:26] <ubot3`> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:26] <friggityfrog> RAdams: ah, thanks that makes sense. If it does run cooler, that means my fans are not operating correctly?
[22:26] <scorpionglitch> Anyone know how to change the default icons for for certain mime-types?
[22:26] <friggityfrog> rather the bios
[22:26] <Noxide> STSX: Yes i do. but i'm not sure how to use ndiswrapper or what it does. etc
[22:27] <RAdams> brian_: setup your devices to prioritize the drives you want in BIOS.
[22:27] <adi_> bloodrock: ubuntu stops from loading and all i can see is an msdos screen saying : busybox v1.1.1 (debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) builtinshell (ash) followed by a line (initramfs) where i can type things
[22:27] <RAdams> friggityfrog: it means either the sensors are going, or there's a problem with the motherboard
[22:27] <Starnestommy> adi_: that's busybox, not msdos.  Linux has very little to do with dos
[22:28] <aic> #ubuntu-de
[22:28] <friggityfrog> RAdams: thanks
[22:28] <adi_> Starnestommy:  sry
[22:28] <adi_> so why doesnt it load ?
[22:28] <Starnestommy> adi_: check the output of "dmesg"
[22:28] <samy> salve
[22:28] <zonkamatic> Just wanted to pop back in and let those who were here previously know that, once you pointed me in the direction of the drivers, I was able to get things working again.  Thanks.
[22:28] <adi_> how do i do that Starnestommy
[22:28] <brian_> RAdams my first boot drive is "HDD-0" which would be the primary IDE drive.  thats what I installed to which for hardy install purposes would be sdc
[22:28] <samy> aiuto nel file fstab non sono presenti gli hd di windows??????????????????''
[22:29] <samy> :(
[22:29] <zonkamatic> Gotta go now.
[22:29] <Starnestommy> dlrr: type this then press Enter: dmesg
[22:29] <Starnestommy> er, adi_
[22:29] <adi_> im new
[22:29] <javagamer> Thanks a bunch! Following suggestions from here I got Thermal Grease and applied it to my overheating CPU and it's now running at 1/2 the temperature.
[22:29] <Starnestommy> !it | samy
[22:29] <ubot3`> samy: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:29] <Slart> javagamer: great.. =)
[22:29] <bloodrock> adi_, you type that at the busybox screen
[22:29] <tux_> anyone have issues with Firefox 3 lately?
[22:29] <STSX> Noxide: OK, unfortunately I have to go now, but I might be back around in an hour or so. The help.ubuntu.com site has a few good tutorials on ndiswrapper, and the only extra thing you may have to add (because of recent changes in Hardy), is given in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804989 So anyway, maybe I'll see you around later, otherwise good luck with it. ;)
[22:29] <cegopaiva> good night every one
[22:29] <tux_> kinda freezes and xulrunner updates won't install, weird ?
[22:30] <adi_> bloodrock:  tell me exactly what i have to type
[22:30] <scorpionglitch> tux: I've had issues with history, forward and back
[22:30] <Starnestommy> adi_: dmesg
[22:30] <ubilicious> Hey guys whats up
[22:30] <amenado> whose got two video cards and is able to use them at same time? may I copy your xorg.conf file so I can make mine work too?  I have a matrox millenium and nvidia riva tnt2
[22:30] <adi_> ok brb
[22:30] <brian_> RAdams grub comes up fine.. but errors out with "Error 22: No such partiton"
[22:30] <amenado> once i get that working, i will have two seats...two users in one pc.
[22:31] <ubilicious> is there a way at login I can choose betwreen logging into a domain or a workgroup.  I know this would have to load a new samba config but wondering if there is any interface out there that can do this
[22:31] <rayyrayy> lies prostrate in homage to the linux gods
[22:31] <amenado> brian_-> check your /boot/grub/device.map  see if it points to the correct partitions
[22:31] <Noxide> Thank you STSX
[22:32] <bjwebb> hi
[22:32]  * scorpionglitch repeats, "Anyone know how to change the default icons for for certain mime-types?"
[22:32] <brian_> amenado can I do that from grub or do I need to boot from a live cd to do that?
[22:32] <gambi> Hello there fellow ubuntu users.. I am quite a newbie on this OS.. but I like it alot! at the moment im running on live CD due to bootloader.. I reinstalled winXP *due to gaming and such* but now I can only boot winXP.. my grub is down I guess.. how do I bring it back up?
[22:32] <amenado> brian_-> from a livecd
[22:32] <bjwebb> "sudo apt-get build-dep -f gnash" gives me "E: Build-dependencies for gnash could not be satisfied.", why? and why isn't it giving me more info?
[22:32] <gambi> Iw tryed
[22:32] <gambi>  ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:32] <gambi> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[22:33] <gambi> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[22:33] <FloodBot3> gambi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <gambi> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[22:33] <rayyrayy> triboot macbook ..  isx and xp work .. after install of ubuntu 7.06 "error loading operating system"  I've tried puting grub on different partitions
[22:33] <brian_> amenado: okay.. i'll be back in a minute... gunna redo the install too incase i screwed anything up already playing with it trying to make things work
[22:33] <rayyrayy> osx*
[22:33] <xenos> !flood
[22:33] <ubot3`> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:33] <gambi> Sorry.. I just coppyed what It said.. didnt knew It would split msg it
[22:33] <adi_> ok i wrote dmesg but there was A LOT OF TEXT and i couldnt go page up.. no error though.. what did i have to look for ?
[22:34] <niner64> gambi if you are sure ubuntu is already installed and grub got vaped just sudu grub-install most likely make surre you check the info in your menu_st and that it's correct in the boot folder
[22:34] <Starnestommy> adi_: first, look for anything relating for hard disks.  That includes IDE, ATA, PATA, SATA, and SCSI
[22:34] <adi_> ok.. then what
[22:35] <RainMaker> Hi, how can I install new brushes in gimp?
[22:35] <adi_> Starnestommy:  the thing is.. if i leave ubuntu to load.. it stops. but from recovery mode it does load correctly..
[22:35] <Starnestommy> adi_: tell us what suspicious messages show up
[22:35] <piotr> hello how i can install xfce4 +xorg. i have ubuntu server edition
[22:35] <guest675> hi, how can i to install the ntp support? i can't sincronize yet
[22:35] <adi_> how do i know if something is suspicious? does it start with "error" or something ?!
[22:35] <wam> Hi, how do I get my nice xmms from gutsy back? Which client for xmmsd do I need for the same layout?
[22:35] <adi_> should it !?
[22:36] <rayyrayy> shakes his fist at the linux gods
[22:36] <Arct|cA|rborne> identify borealis
[22:36] <adi_> ok brb
[22:36] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: those icons are in /usr/share/icons/<your-active-icon-theme->/<size>/mimetypes .. haven't found anything easier to do that ..
[22:36] <robdig> guest675: sudo apt-get install ntp
[22:37] <RainMaker> How do I install brushes in ubuntu?
[22:37] <vehystrix> can anyone help me upgrading to 8.04, it keeps telling me I have unofficial packages...
[22:37] <glitsj16> Rainmaker: gimp brushes ? there's gimp-data-extras in the packages ..
[22:37] <rayyrayy> anybody know how to get fefit and grub to play nice without puting grub on mbr?
[22:37] <rayyrayy> refit*
[22:38] <guest675> robdig, i cant find ntp
[22:38] <RainMaker> Some guy told me I have to use plug-in brushes.
[22:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> "brushes"?
[22:38] <brian_> just an aside... shouldn't hardy recognize IDE drives first? for example should my primary master ide drive be sda not sdc? being that the bios puts them in that order?
[22:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> for what?
[22:38] <CroX> When running lspci I see that my gfx card's address is "05:00.0". Should I put that as "PCI:05:00:0" in xorg.conf?
[22:38] <robdig> guest675: the command i gave you can't find it?
[22:38] <niner64> rayyrayy i was unable to get 8.04 to boot off /dev/hdb1 had to use mbr 0 go figure
[22:38] <RainMaker> I already downloaded a folder with brushes in .gbr.
[22:38] <RainMaker> for GIMP Daisuke.
[22:38] <guest675> robdig, exact
[22:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> RainMaker: then import them in the gimp :)
[22:39] <rayyrayy> lame
[22:39] <RainMaker> How..
[22:39] <rayyrayy> niner thx
[22:39] <niner64> very i am thinking the option to install to mbr of disk 1 was nerfed somehow
[22:39] <robdig> guest675: check your package sources. system->administration->software sources, make sure everything on the first tab is checked
[22:39] <genirc> can I ask a nubie q about umlet on ubuntu?
[22:40] <ubilicious> ﻿is there a way at login I can choose betwreen logging into a domain or a workgroup.  I know this would have to load a new samba config but wondering if there is any interface out there that can do this
[22:40] <scorpionglitch> glitj16: application/x-game-fff and I have a file called application-x-game-fff.png but it won't show, even after restart
[22:40] <rayyrayy> niner ..  but chain is not the sexy
[22:40] <CTho> what do people normally use for canon DSLRs?  my point&shoot camera just mounts as a USB drive.
[22:40] <Diegocon13> alguien sabe español'
[22:40] <bazhang_> !es | Diegocon13
[22:40] <ubot3`> Diegocon13: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:40] <adi_> the only thing that resembled as a hd was "sdb attached  scsi disk  / generic sg0 type 0 / sg1 type 0 / sg2 type 5
[22:41] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: just a sec please, ther's a command to reload the mimetype database, have it somewhere (i think)
[22:41] <niner64> rayyrayy: lol nor is the default splash screen for that matter :)
[22:41] <guest675> robdig, i have debian.. and i have not the same tab in software sources
[22:41] <Slart> glitsj16: update-mime-database?
[22:41] <rayyrayy> lol
[22:41] <Slart> glitsj16: or update-mime?
[22:41] <rayyrayy> mm grey anyone?
[22:41] <adi_> man i think i'll just reinstall it
[22:41] <glitsj16> Slart: not sure
[22:42] <adi_> vaffanculo
[22:42] <compengi_> what chmod option would apply read and write permissions to a folder and it's sub files and folders?
[22:42] <scorpionglitch> i've used: update-mime-database ~/.local/share/mime/
[22:42] <scorpionglitch> but it does not work
[22:42] <Slart> compengi_: -R a+rw
[22:42] <c0mp13371331337> compengi_: chmod -r 777 /your/directory
[22:42] <Slart> compengi_: -R for recursive.. a+rw to make All users have Read and Write permissions
[22:43] <robdig> guest675: ok, the sources file is kept in /etc/apt/sources.list, might want to make sure that your sources are present. don't know what they would be called in debian
[22:43] <niner64> rayyrayy: if you have time to try the various other install methods on grub try the partition like example /dev/hdb5 or whatever t my just tkae it
[22:44] <rayyrayy> miner64 ..  I tried /dev/sdc and whatnot but got errors .. used ..  find.. root .. sudo grub-install (hd0,1) type ..  shows good in dev map, but I still get "error loading os"
[22:44] <niner64> rayyrayy: then you can wipe your (hd,0) after you know your /dev/hdb5 is working ;)
[22:44] <rayyrayy> lol
[22:45] <rayyrayy> miner64 ..  yes .. just give me one shot ..  I'll put it in my head
[22:45] <wam> Is there any alternative to xmms on hardy?
[22:45] <guest675> robdig, i am in the latest version (testing), but i can only find "nntp" ( An NNTP server for use with C News )
[22:45] <bazhang_> audacious wam
[22:46] <rayyrayy> miner64 ..  I'm impressed I haven't spooged the mbr yet really
[22:46] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: there's some info at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2953931 that use sudo to get it working, never tested this myself though, a long shot ..
[22:47] <MatToufoutu> hello all happy geeks ^^
[22:47] <robdig> guest675: hmm, try this page, see section 2.3, maybe it can help you build your sources.list http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html
[22:47] <xenos> !themes
[22:47] <ubot3`> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[22:47] <niner64> rayyrayy: it will just overwrite pretty well try the default selection (i know) it's not ideal way but you at least can move to another loader after you have all your blanks filled in later
[22:47] <MatToufoutu> does anyone here ever created a torrent using deluge?
[22:47] <xenos> where's the directory to put new icons?
[22:48] <alan_m> is the webboard applet for pastebin messed up? no matter where i tell it to upload a paste to, it says "could not publish the text at <website address>" I am using a correct pastebin website so thats not the problem.
[22:48] <wam> bazhang_: thanks ;) looks great
[22:48] <bazhang_> alan_m, perhaps try with pastebinit
[22:48] <compengi_> Slart & c0mp13371331337 thanks a lot
[22:48] <rayyrayy> so in theory I should be able to install grub on my linux partition?
[22:48] <genirc> any umlet users here?
[22:49] <scorpionglitch> thanks glitsj16 i'll try that
[22:49] <alan_m> bazhang_, meh, i guess im gonna have to, webboard seems like it would be so cool if it would actually work :/ oh well, gonna go grab pastebinit
[22:49] <niner64> rayyrayy: yes lilo is great for that and grub doesn work on the MBR of another drive in almost ALL other distro's i tried.
[22:49]  * RuyalarPrensi ii geceler arkadaşlar
[22:49] <niner64> er DOES i mean
[22:50] <niner64> but it requies the /boot and all thing
[22:50] <mDemocritus> wow that's a huge mem leak in pidgin
[22:50] <MatToufoutu> when i create a new torrent with deluge, it's put in queue, but at 0%, did i do something wrong?
[22:50] <RAdams> whenever I add "trash" to my panel, it's invisible. I have tried changing icon sets, but it's always invisible. any ideas
[22:51] <glitsj16> wam: there's a way to get xmms on hardy documented in detail here --> http://blog.sartek.net/2008/04/install-xmms-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[22:51] <rayyrayy> miner64  ..  all my OS's are on one drive .. I've merely partitioned it ..  grub can work on the same partition or on different or both?
[22:52] <zelrikriando> how can I open a 3g2 file?
[22:52] <shepherd> how do you format with ubuntu?
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> shepherd gparted
[22:53] <dev-null> hi everybody. how i can change mount-point of my Desktop. for example i want HOHOHO folder for my desktop.as far as i know i should edit file, but i fogort what is it file
[22:53] <niner64> rayyrayy just use MBR option then it should say (hd0) you'll be fine then
[22:53] <zvacet> RAdams : in terminal gconf-editor  apps<nautilus>desktop>on the right side chech box trash icon visible
[22:53] <rayyrayy> miner64 ...  ohhh no ..  I haven't spent two days to avoid chain load to quit now
[22:53] <niner64> it doen't need to write to a partition on the "same" hd just uses the master boot record.
[22:54] <RAdams> zvacet: I know how to make it appear on my desktop. I'm trying to get it on the panel.
[22:54] <alan_m> dev-null, im sorry i dont understand what your trying to do.
[22:54] <shepherd> i have ubuntu installed, i want to format my harddriver and install ubuntu again, is there a way to do this?
[22:54] <Regata>  /Server irc.irc-hispano.org
[22:54] <rayyrayy> miner64  what you said about other distros you've tried ..  what was different about their bootings?
[22:54] <bazhang_> gparted livecd shepherd
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> shepherd run the live cd..it will let you format it
[22:55] <zvacet> RAdams : righ click on panel>add to panel>trash
[22:55] <shepherd> i see it now thankks
[22:56] <googlefauli> windows is the best operatin system of the world
[22:56] <googlefauli> only kidding
[22:56] <niner64> rayyrayy: they used lilo bootloader or used grub and the /boot partition for the kernel and initrd
[22:56] <bazhang_> googlefauli, chat elsewhere thanks
[22:56] <dev-null> alan_s,i have ~/Desktop folder that represent content of my work space(Desktop)/ i need to change ~/Desktop to ~/HOHOHO. what file i need to edit for change it
[22:56] <Furom> Does anyone know the name of an ASE 3D modeling program for ubuntu? I've looked through the Synaptic Package Manager, and I searched google. I can't find anything and it doesn't seem to be a popular topic. I checked out blender, and it doesn't export .ASE files.
[22:57] <niner64> rayyrayy: belive me i had hairpulling with bootloaders i like the short and simple MBR forget it now.
[22:57] <alan_m> dev-null, I believe changing your /Desktop folder to something else could possibly break your system, so i dont recommend doing that.
[22:57] <rayyrayy> miner64  and you think ubuntu won't work unless on the mbr?
[22:57] <bazhang_> !equivalents | Furom
[22:57] <ubot3`> Furom: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[22:57] <zvacet> googlefauli : no need to apologize it is your right to be wrong  8-)
[22:57] <alan_m> *~/Desktop
[22:57] <brian_> dev-null: just a stab in the dark but could you use a link to do this?
[22:57] <googlefauli> xD
[22:57] <Furom> ubot3` & bazhang I've never used a windows equivalent, so I wouldn't know what to look for.
[22:57] <ubot3`> Furom: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[22:57] <brian_> dev-null: and then just call the link Desktop
[22:57] <rayyrayy> miner64 well thanks for the time sir
[22:58] <googlefauli> zvacet xD
[22:58] <Furom> LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:58] <stemount^> :/
[22:58] <robdig> zelrikriando: google says that VLC player can play them...but i've never tried
[22:58] <niner64> rayyrayy: currently i only tried the other option if i had spare time to reinstall several times i could probably make it work yet that would take going through alls it's install options and reinstalling serveral times
[22:59] <sedra> !compiz
[22:59] <ubot3`> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:59] <sedra> !xgl
[22:59] <niner64> rayyrayy: i am beyond try everying curiousity mode these days :P
[22:59] <sedra> !aiglx
[22:59] <ubot3`> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[22:59] <rayyrayy> lol
[22:59] <rayyrayy> =\
[22:59] <zvacet> googlefauli : I don´t understand
[22:59] <brian_> dev-null: back up everything before you try it. but you could create your HOHOHO folder move everything from Desktop to HOHOHO delete Desktop then create a link to HOHOHO and call it Desktop
[22:59] <rayyrayy> musst win....
[22:59] <handjob>  tl;dr how do i change screen resolution in fail safe terminal for my xface session?
[23:00]  * alan_m props feet up
[23:00] <sedra> :D
[23:00] <dev-null> im wit rus localization and name ofDesktop folder in my case represented by two russian words with whitespace. it so non-comfortable=|
[23:00] <niner64> rayyrayy: now if you want to go in and try all those options be my guest and report back what you find in the forums great each new release has it's own benifits andd irritations :P
[23:00] <zelrikriando> robdig, thanks it works....
[23:01] <brian_> sorry alan_m just had a thought
[23:01] <robdig> zelrikriando: np
[23:01] <rayyrayy> niner64 ..  it would be nice to stop crying
[23:01] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: any luck yet ?
[23:01] <zelrikriando> robdig, I am amazed...I can put my videos from my cellphone on ubuntu via SD card
[23:01] <gidix> hi ! i have a problem with flash and sound. when i'm in youtube, as example, it blocks the sound for other applications and even cause them to crash :S any ideas ?
[23:01] <handjob>  tl;dr how do i change screen resolution in fail safe terminal for my xface session?
[23:01] <helpy> what do i use to burn iso of kubuntu on dvd ?
[23:01] <helpy> its not working
[23:02] <helpy> :s
[23:02] <rayyrayy> =\
[23:02] <zvacet> dev-null : put quote marks like "Russian Desktop"
[23:02] <n-iCe> why people can see me through webcam but i can't see my own video i used cheese and nothing, how can i solve it???
[23:02] <niner64> later people lucnh time :9
[23:02] <rayyrayy> ~
[23:02] <sedra> gidix , cause flash use OSS instead of alsa so it monopolise the sound card
[23:02] <mooGirl> rayyrayy: Google may be able to help you, cuz I sure can't!
[23:02] <robdig> zelrikriando: cool
[23:02] <zvacet> dev-null : if you want to cd in to it
[23:02] <rayyrayy> google has absorbed me
[23:02] <rayyrayy> google owns me
[23:02] <gidix> sedra, any solutions that i can try ?
[23:03] <rayyrayy> and it just slaps me when I'm done
[23:03] <dev-null> zvacet, no
[23:03] <dev-null> zvacet, i want HOHOHO)
[23:03] <bazhang_> rayyrayy, stay on topic please
[23:03] <sedra> gidix its adobe fault!
[23:03] <glitsj16> gidix: try installing flash player beta 10 , that did it for me, look here (part b) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900
[23:03] <helpy> glitsj16 what should i use to burn kubuntu iso on dvd ?
[23:03] <handjob>  tl;dr how do i change screen resolution in fail safe terminal for my xface session? ITS NOT LIJKE I AM STUBBORN BUT I REALLY NEED SOME HELP
[23:03] <gidix> thanks sedra :) and thanks glitsj16
[23:04] <bazhang_> helpy, right click open with cd/dvd creator
[23:04] <n-iCe> why people can see me through webcam but i can't see my own video i used cheese and nothing, how can i solve it???
[23:04] <sedra> with alsa many programs can access the sound device but not with OSS
[23:04] <zvacet> dev-null : right click ont it and select rename
[23:04] <glitsj16> helpy: you're in luck, k3b is one of the best
[23:04] <zvacet> dev-null : that is all I can think of
[23:04] <Niksoni> Can anyone help me?
[23:04] <alan_m> !ask | Niksoni
[23:04] <ubot3`> Niksoni: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:04] <helpy> glitsj16 how do i check if my iso is good. md5sum isnt working for me
[23:04] <rayyrayy> can I make grub work with ubuntu without puting it on mbr?
[23:05] <helpy> i am not on linux glitsj16. k3b still works ?
[23:05] <guest675> robdig, many thanks, i have added a new server, and then i have installed ntp server
[23:05] <bazhang_> helpy, isorecorder2 for windows
[23:05] <Niksoni> When i used one of that IM programms in Ubuntu,it sometimes close's itself
[23:05] <robdig> guest675: excellent!!
[23:05] <sedra> glitsj16:  Flash10 use ALSA or OSS?
[23:05] <helpy> its not working bazhang_
[23:05] <helpy> gives me an error
[23:05] <dev-null> zvacet,  "~/.config/user-dirs.dirs" this was my targert
[23:05] <bazhang_> helpy, md5sume fails then is a corrupt iso
[23:05] <handjob>  tl;dr how do i change screen resolution in fail safe terminal for my xface session?IT'S NOT LIKE I AM GIVING UP IN SEARCH OF ANSWERS
[23:06] <glitsj16> sedra: i use it with ALSA plugged into Pulseaudio, works great
[23:06] <helpy> how do i use md5sum, i dont know how to use it
[23:06] <helpy> file download 100% Bagualas
[23:06] <bazhang_> handjob dont repeat so often; if someone knows they will answer
[23:06] <helpy> err bazhang_
[23:06] <robthebob> hi i've run into a bit of a problem with ubuntu thinking my resume partition is on hda2, when in fact it is now sda2 due to the new kernel
[23:06] <robthebob> it doesn't seem to be set in grub
[23:06] <sedra> glitsj16: but flash10 isnt stable yet!
[23:06] <bazhang_> !md5 | helpy
[23:06] <ubot3`> helpy: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[23:06] <glitsj16> sedra: no but it works, there are so many beta's these days ;)
[23:07] <Diegocon13> need help with mount a partition
[23:07] <n-iCe> why people can see me through webcam but i can't see my own video i used cheese and nothing, how can i solve it???
[23:07] <brian_> robthebob pain in the butt depricating hd* isn't it?
[23:07] <helpy> thx bazhang_
[23:07] <robthebob> yeah, went through this on my gentoo boxes a while back, here we go again!
[23:07] <robdig> handjob: try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/xfce-how-do-i-change-the-screen-resolution-176407/
[23:07] <zvacet> dev-null : I don´t see that under my .config folder so I don´t know how to help you
[23:08] <robthebob> any ideas tho brian_?
[23:08] <handjob>  tl;dr how do i change screen resolution in fail safe terminal for my xface session?IS THIS SUPER SECRET KNOWLAGE OR I JUST DON'T HAVE LUCK
[23:08] <Noxide> When installing hardy, can I repartition freespace later if I use the whole disk now?
[23:08] <bazhang_> handjob two things: read the link above, and lose the caps
[23:09] <robdig> handjob: try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/xfce-how-do-i-change-the-screen-resolution-176407/
[23:09] <brian_> robthebob I'm actually having similar issues I'm in here trying to solve... hardy installs to sdc just fine (which is actually my primary master ide drive) but grub sees it as hd0 not hd2 which is what is getting written to my grub config.  such a pain
[23:09] <moshe> Noxide,you can use gparted from within your install
[23:09] <zvacet> handjob : if anybody know the answer will tell you so give people a time
[23:09] <robthebob> ah great, i feel your pain
[23:09] <robthebob> gl
[23:09] <Noxide> moshe: i assume that is a "yes you can, and gparted is the partition utility you would use."
[23:09] <helpy> if my iso size is 700 mb, i can't write it on dvd ?
[23:09] <Lugos> hello
[23:09] <bazhang_> Noxide, yes you can
[23:09] <moshe> noxide, that is correct
[23:10] <brian_> robthebob if you poke around in /boot/grub you might be able to find the config file to play with.. thats my next step in solving my problem
[23:10] <bazhang_> helpy, sure you can
[23:10] <zvacet> helpy : why not
[23:10] <sedra> helpy:  yes you can
[23:10] <helpy> but it isnt working
[23:10] <Noxide> Thank you :-D that makes my life easier.
[23:10] <helpy> i have download isorecorder
[23:10] <Noxide> Since this is the third reinstall :-P
[23:10] <Lugos> I' am not conky in home folder
[23:10] <scorpionglitch> glitsj16: not yet how do you color your name when its directed at me
[23:11] <robthebob> thats where i'm looking brian_. I'm used to editing this file from Gentoo, but there is no resume= parameter set in here
[23:11] <moshe> noxide, if you wern't doing reinstalls,you might get bored
[23:11] <n-iCe> why people can see me through webcam but i can't see my own video i used cheese and nothing, how can i solve it???
[23:11] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: by putting the persons nickname in your message
[23:11] <Noxide> moshe: that is too true :D
[23:12] <scorpionglitch> glitsj16: is this one colored
[23:12] <moshe> noxide,I have a good time working with ubuntu..beats building systems
[23:12] <Brrystrgzr> I need to downgrade my kernel from 2.6.24-17 to 2.6.24-16 how do i do it ?
[23:13] <bazhang_> Brrystrgzr, choose in grub menu when you boot
[23:13] <Brrystrgzr> Bazhang_ idk if ive set that up. is there a way to check ?
[23:13] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: it is at my end yes
[23:13] <sedra> n-iCe: even with cheese you cant see yourself?
[23:13] <Catslacks> Hey, I'm using madwifi for my wireless adapter and it floats around 50-55% most of the time, but when I'm trying to play games (Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Warcraft 3) I lag a lot and it makes them nearly unplayable.
[23:13] <n-iCe> Yup sedra  i cant
[23:13] <zvacet> Brrystrgzr : in synaptic fins package linux-image and delete one with 2.6.24-17 but be sure that you stil have 2.6.24-16 installed
[23:14] <robthebob> brian_, try looking at /boot/grub/device.map; change that to be correct and then run grub-install. that might help
[23:14] <scorpionglitch> glitsj16: cool, I've been doing that all along with out knowing, Anyway I haven't found anything that works
[23:14] <shepherd> how do i completly format with gparted?
[23:14] <shepherd> what is the command?
[23:15] <brian_> robthebob: thanks.  I just changed device.map and it didn't work..  didn't realize that i needed to run grub-install afterwards.. giving it another shot now
[23:15] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: no same here, nothing solid .. looks like they burried those mimetype databases deep and undocumented
[23:15] <bazhang_> gparted is graphical shepherd
[23:15] <sedra> n-iCe: can you play videos?
[23:16] <mikeconcepts> forgot what I need to install to get the cube
[23:16] <bazhang_> ccsm mikeconcepts
[23:16] <Brrystrgzr> Zvacet is it the one with 2.6.24-17.31 ?
[23:16] <scorpionglitch> glitsj16: another thing is that my themes are located where the guide said it be
[23:16] <mikeconcepts> bazhang: thx
[23:16] <n-iCe> sedra,  i watch youtube videos, yes
[23:17] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: can't confirm that, using xubuntu and ubuntustudio myself, so it might be distro-related, it's a guessing game right now it seems
[23:17] <zvacet> Brrystrgzr :yes, but see that you have 2.6.24-16 installed
[23:18] <brian_> robthebob: grub-install requires parameters.. should I use --recheck?
[23:18] <LittleEndian> any idea why my server gives the domain twice for hostname -d
[23:18] <idefix> it's not possible to switch your computer off at 1 AM with a timer?
[23:19] <Kaito> huh? should be possible
[23:19] <Brrystrgzr> Zvacet, when i flagged for the option to remove it, it said that a number of other packages were going to be removed. should i go on?
[23:19] <scorpionglitch> glitsj16: see you later, i'm going to try and make a svg version of my icon
[23:19] <idefix> Kaito how then? it is already implemented?
[23:19] <scorpionglitch> see if that works
[23:19] <zvacet> Brrystrgzr : which packages
[23:19] <brian_> robthebob: i get the feeling grub install isn't what I want to make grub reparse device.map
[23:19] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: bye and thx for the input, gdluck
[23:20] <Kaito> Lemme check quick idefix, havent really done it myself. I know there are many programs via synaptic that do it though if it is not alrdy built into ubuntu
[23:20] <LittleEndian> idefix you need to look at cron
[23:20] <Emiliano> hello everyone
[23:21] <Brrystrgzr> Zvacet: http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/64/synapticqb1.png
[23:21] <Kaito> Hello Emiliano
[23:21] <sedra> hello
[23:21] <LittleEndian> idefix: edit your cron and say shutdown -h <time you want>... you can put that in daily or something
[23:21] <Marty81> hey everyone.. I just booted my Ubuntu comp and (from last night to now) it doesn't aquire an IP address from my DHCP server (router) any ideas?
[23:21] <Emiliano> What should I install with a t8100 processor? Ubuntu 32 or 64??
[23:21] <ubot3`> Emiliano: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 387, column 84
[23:21] <idefix> cron the daemon or is there a cron-file?
[23:22] <LittleEndian> there is a cront file
[23:22] <zvacet> Brrystrgzr : you can remove it because that packages depends on that kernel
[23:22] <Kaito> idefix, otherwise for gui check out Gshutdown
[23:22] <Kaito> it is in add/remove
[23:22] <LittleEndian> idefix, google around you should get what you want :D
[23:22] <Kaito> Gshutdown says it allows you to schedule shutdowns etc...
[23:22] <LittleEndian> idefix: or go kaito's way
[23:22] <Kaito> Kaito's way is easier :D
[23:22] <robdig> Marty81: ive had that happen occasionally, just do these two commands         sudo ifdown -a          sudo ifup -a
[23:23] <brian_> robthebob: just for the record i think i wanted update-grub
[23:23] <Kaito> So whose next? :P
[23:23] <xenos> so how do i install new icons?
[23:23] <Kaito> Xenos, visit www.gnome-look.org
[23:24] <Kaito> download a icon pack
[23:24] <jokoon> Hello, I'm looking for a way to make a double OS pc on a power pc machine, ubuntu + mac os x
[23:24] <derspankster> soembody help get nvidia-glx-new installed so I can get a screen
[23:24] <brian_> robthebob: and i changed it in the menu list from (hd2,0) to (hd0,0) and it worked fine after update-grub
[23:24] <bazhang_> !dualboot | jokoon
[23:24] <ubot3`> jokoon: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[23:24] <Kaito> and then in the appearance settings click on install, browse to what you downloaded (should be .tgz or some such) and click ok
[23:24] <Kaito> bingo
[23:24] <xenos> Kaito: Why?
[23:24] <Marty81> "sudo: must be setuid root" (sorry, I'm a noob ib Linux stuff... ) what should I do?
[23:24] <xenos> Kaito: I have the icon pack. I just need to know HOW to install it.
[23:24] <jamGLesT> anyone want to help me with installing gparted? =)
[23:24] <sedra> Emiliano: 64 bits
[23:25] <Kaito> gotcha, what is the extension at the end of the filename for what you downloaded?
[23:25] <zvacet> jamGLesT : sudo aptitude gparted	
[23:25] <Kaito> should be .tar.gz
[23:26] <brian_> robthebob as far as your problem goes check out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/16701 it looks like you wanna add resume to your kernel params in menu.lst
[23:26] <jamGLesT> zvacet: This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[23:26] <jamGLesT> zvacet: but the rest worked XD
[23:26] <jamGLesT> it says that at the bottom...?
[23:26] <Kaito> if it is that you can install it via System->Preferences->Appearance, click install click on your file and click ok, then just select it under customize and bingo
[23:26] <zvacet> jamGLesT: of course not    sudo aptitude install gparted
[23:26] <Catslacks> Hey, I'm using madwifi for my wireless adapter and it floats around 50-55% most of the time, but when I'm trying to play games (Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Warcraft 3) I lag a lot and it makes them nearly unplayable.
[23:26] <jamGLesT> zvacet: what are super cow powers, some programming thing, or a joke?
[23:27] <brian_> i think robthebob has gone. :( sorry robthebob.. I tried to help
[23:27] <robdig> Marty81: sounds like someone has changed the permissions of the sudo command...
[23:27] <zvacet> jamGLesT: I believe it is joke telling you that you didn´t  type command correct
[23:27] <derspankster> anyone want to try to tackle my nvidia problem?
[23:28] <jamGLesT> zvacet:no, it worked, but the end said that
[23:28] <robthebob> cheers brian
[23:28] <Kaito> Catslacks in my experience if the connection is 50% strength it should work fine. Are you sure it is the network lagging and not the graphics?
[23:28] <zvacet> zvacet : and aptitude  does not have Super Cow Powers to know what you want
[23:28] <Catslacks> Yes, I am sure it is the network.
[23:28] <brian_> ain't no thing robthebob.  from what i read you just ass resume="<your swap partiton" to your kernel params
[23:28] <Kaito> Hmm, what brand of wireless card do you have?
[23:29] <jamGLesT> zvacet: oh.
[23:29] <sedra> !nvidia
[23:29] <ubot3`> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> what are the gnome/gtk+ equvilent of yakuake? tilda? and?
[23:29] <derspankster> been there sedra
[23:29] <Catslacks> Kaito: In Return to Castle Wolfenstein the "connection" box pops up, and in Warcraft 3 I get 'Waiting for Host.' I have a D-Link DWA-542 Card.
[23:29] <jamGLesT> zvacet: so now do i have to do the ./configure make make install?
[23:30] <zvacet> jamGLesT : there are many option for aptitude I you didn´t use any of them
[23:30] <robdig> Marty81: to fix, you will likely need to boot up in recovery mode and fix the permissions. once in recovery mode, think this will do it         chmod u+s /bin/sudo
[23:30] <sedra> derspankster: what's your problem
[23:30] <Kaito> I have only got in depth in broadcom cards, sorry dont know much about problems with those, look up dlink problem on the ubuntu forums
[23:30] <zvacet> jamGLesT : no it is install if you typed sudo aptitude install gparted
[23:31] <jamGLesT> so i just type install/
[23:31] <robthebob> just going to try it now
[23:31] <jamGLesT> oops
[23:31] <Kaito> zvacet btw whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get commands?
[23:31] <jamGLesT> zvacet: so i just type install? or ./install
[23:31] <derspankster> sedra, when I enable the driver I get no X, flashes three times and then I have to reconfigure for vesa or nv, nvidia 6600
[23:31] <Marty81> well, I prolly messed up somewhere :P
[23:31] <thor> Ok, I've installed Ubuntu 8.0.4 on my PC and Wine 1.0 rc3. I am trying to get WoW to play nice with them. Using Linux divers on my GeForce4 4600 Ti, in OpenGL mode, I get really poor rendering, only about half the world displays at all, and maybe 1-2 fps. If I try to use the Nvidia propietary drivers, I get this:
[23:31] <zvacet> jamGLesT : or if you are more visual type go to the synaptic and in search box type gparted
[23:31] <thor> http://pastebin.com/d56eef113
[23:31] <jamGLesT> zvacet: that works =)
[23:32] <Kaito> thor have you added anything to your .wtf WoW configuration file?
[23:32] <derspankster> sedra, tried envy too - no love
[23:32]  * robdig gotta run
[23:32] <jamGLesT> zvacet: says it's installed
[23:32] <brian_> Kaito: lol.. WoW's config files are .wtf?
[23:32] <jamGLesT> zvacet: i'm reinstalling
[23:32] <Kaito> yup they are, sad aint it
[23:33] <thor> Kaito: actually im trying to help a friend out
[23:33] <zvacet> Kaito : I think aptitude handle dependencies better then apt-get but this is average (non-expert) explanation
[23:33] <Kaito> ok thanks zvacet
[23:33] <thor> Kaito: so i dont have access to his machine, just quoting his post for help
[23:33] <jamGLesT> zvacet: still says Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/local/sbin/gparted" (No such file or directory)
[23:33] <grobda24> After sitting idle for a while something starts making my HD click away very noisily and then stops after a few minutes. It's a really annoying sound :] I can't see to find what it is. No apps open. No cpu activity.
[23:33] <sedra> derspankster: post your problem on the forum with more details
[23:33] <Kaito> Gotcha, well getting WoW to work properly in Wine can be a pain or easy. It took one extra line of configuration in the .wtf file and i was golden
[23:33] <Eleaf> does anybody know of a good ftp client for linux that isn't gftp (I can't stand the bad gtk"1.5" interface)
[23:34] <Eleaf> I want something that's actually gtk2
[23:34] <thor> Kaito: what did you have to edit and what was the name of the file?
[23:34] <zvacet> jamGLesT : if it is installed you will find it under system>administration
[23:34] <Kaito> worldofwarcraft/WTF/config.wtf
[23:35] <jamGLesT> that worked
[23:35] <jamGLesT> oops
[23:35] <jamGLesT> zvacet: that worked thanks
[23:35] <Kaito> From there you can change settings etc... if you like I can email you my .wtf so you can compare them
[23:35] <zvacet> jamGLesT :good
[23:35] <thor> that would be helpful
[23:35] <thor> terminhell@gmail.com
[23:35] <glitsj16> eleaf: there's http://sourceforge.net/projects/junkie that you could check-out ..
[23:36] <Kaito> hmm this has file transfer, cool lol
[23:36] <Eleaf> thank you glitsj16, I'll give it a look.
[23:36] <nighmi> is there a possibility to define a font for a special 'subset' of unicode only for gtk applications? I'd like to change my font for the devanagari script, while not changing the one for latin
[23:36] <scorpionglitch> glitsj16: I got it to work, but I'm not sure how
[23:36] <Kaito> Thor: tried file transfer to you, is it working?
[23:36] <sedra> derspankster: try this sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[23:36] <thor> im using a terminal based irc client
[23:36] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch :) sometimes it's like that hehe
[23:36] <scorpionglitch> glitsj16: thanks for the help
[23:37] <Kaito> ok gotcha, sec ill just post it up in the ubuntu forum, give me a second then ill give ya a link
[23:37] <thor> and i dont know all of its commands...so i see your trying to send it, but idk h ow to accept it
[23:37] <Kaito> np
[23:37] <sedra> derspankster: add-agrab-glx-visuals -d 24
[23:37] <glitsj16> scorpionglitch: you're welcome, from one glitch to another, see you
[23:37] <thor> unless anyone else here knows how to accept files via irssi
[23:37] <brian_> did they nuke tab completion for apt-get in hardy?  I used to be able to type sudo apt-get install nvidia-s<tab> and it would auto complete for me.. it doesn't work for me anymore
[23:37] <derspankster> sedra, Ok, did a fresh install of Hardy, X wouldn't start, screen flashes 3 times and then I have to reconfigure from low graphics to use either nv or vesa to get a screen. All attempts to unistall, reinstall fail the same way, envy did not work nor did nvidia-glx.  I also tried to install a driver directly from Nvidia site and could not install - complained about lacking lbc linking ibrary being missing - which it isn't.
[23:38] <fox_dewd> where can i get help on mikrotik/routerOS
[23:38] <fox_dewd> ?
[23:38] <jamGLesT> zvacet: do you happen to know much about gparted?
[23:39] <Kaito> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5095042#post5095042
[23:39] <Kaito> Thor: the above is a link to my post about getting wow to work for my card, added to it the text from my config.wtf file
[23:39] <DizzyD> Hey everyone
[23:39] <sedra> derspankster: post that on forum with your hardware spcecifications
[23:39] <zvacet> jamGLesT : no but I know who does    http://gparted.sourceforge.net/documentation.php
[23:40] <marcules> Good night ^^
[23:40] <sedra> DizzyD:  hi
[23:40] <derspankster> sedra, ok, I alsready had nvidia-glx-new installed, just not enabled.
[23:41] <thor> Kaito: kk thx
[23:41] <SnakeArt> Hi. I've got a problem with my printer pixma mp210. system logs says: "Jun  2 00:36:34 project2501 kernel: [ 1152.090125] /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: error -71 reading printer status"
[23:41] <Kaito> Thor: np hope some of it helps ya out :D, make sure to read the official ubuntu WoW FAQ too
[23:42] <xenos> solved!! cp -Rv ~/xyz /usr/share/icons/
[23:43] <derspankster> sedra, OK, I'm going to enable the driver and reboot
[23:44] <sedra> derspankster: good luck
[23:44] <jamGLesT> anyone........what does the end of this command do:
[23:44] <jamGLesT> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windrive -o “umask=022″
[23:44] <derspankster> sedra, huh? Now it says I have no propriatory driver on the system
[23:44] <Chrysalis> hey, i am trying to get the latest sonata version which is in unstable i think, how do i install it without getting all sorts of other updates from enabling unstable repos
[23:45] <jamGLesT> the "-o 'unmask=022'" part
[23:45] <mrMister> hi, I just updated to Hardy and xorg is registering my mouse device twice resulting in single clicks being registered as double clicks
[23:45] <slappy> someone here knows about ACL?
[23:45] <mrMister> does anyone here know hot to fix that?
[23:46] <jamGLesT> wow
[23:46] <jamGLesT> lotsapeoplestalking
[23:46] <troxor> slappy: just that you shouldn't injure it ;)
[23:46] <brian_> troxor lol
[23:46] <troxor> jamGLesT: sets the umask to 022, inverting that gives you 755, the default permissions, iirc
[23:47] <glitsj16> Chrysalis: activate unstable repo for sonata via synaptic, do the install and de-activate it again before closing synaptic
[23:47] <jamGLesT> troxor: so what should i do
[23:47] <slappy> troxor: ... seriously ...
[23:47] <jamGLesT> troxor: i'm trying to mount my windows hard drive so i can access it from linu
[23:47] <troxor> jamGLesT: that command is correct
[23:47] <jamGLesT> troxor: reading a tut about it, just making sure that what i want; ok
[23:47] <jamGLesT> troxor: good
[23:48] <Traveler64> Hey
[23:48] <Traveler64> Is ubuntu supporting raid yet? : P
[23:48] <helpy> what is wrong with isorecorder
[23:48] <helpy> its not burning my kubuntu iso
[23:48] <helpy> :s
[23:48] <sedra> derspankster: reconfigure X
[23:48] <Traveler64> I want to switch to ubuntu but i cant put my hard drives in raid. ;o
[23:48] <ubunt2> hey i'm trying to play GW but when i run it with wine, i only get the music no game screen
[23:48] <Chrysalis> glitsj16: it wont downgrade to the stable version after that?
[23:49] <derspankster> sedra, yes, afraid so
[23:49] <Aston> Is ubuntu supporting raid yet? : P
[23:49] <glitsj16> Chrysalis: no
[23:49] <IndyGunFreak> !raid | Aston
[23:49] <ubot3`> Aston: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[23:49] <Chrysalis> glitsj16: ok
[23:49] <foobrew> when i get a save file dialong in Firefox, it doesn't show me hidden files/directories. any idea how to enable that?
[23:49] <n-iCe> why people who uses mIRC see symbols instead acents ???
[23:49] <derspankster> sedra, I'll be back
[23:49] <ubunt2> hey i'm trying to play GW but when i run it with wine, i only get the music no game screen
[23:50] <sedra> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:50] <uid> thare is any spanish (from spain) guys over here?
[23:50] <ubunt2> sedra that aimed at me?
[23:51] <jamGLesT> uid: Je parle fracais un peut :-)
[23:51] <sedra> ubunt2: no
[23:51] <ubunt2> oh ok
[23:51] <jamGLesT> Qui parle francais ici?
[23:51] <jamGLesT> personne?
[23:51] <jamGLesT> =D
[23:51] <theLichKing> hello.. does the normal ubuntu 8.04 iso has the windows installer thingy, or is it in another distribution ?
[23:51] <WaxyFresh> Hi how do i use a .run file
[23:51] <jrib> ?fr | jamGLesT
[23:51] <sedra> #ubuntu-fr jamGLesT
[23:51] <jrib> WaxyFresh: tell the channel what you are trying to install
[23:51] <jamGLesT> jrib:nah, i speak english =)
[23:51] <jamGLesT> i speak english
[23:52] <Joeb454> theLichKing, yes 8.04 has the Wubi installer
[23:52] <jamGLesT> i was just kidding =)
[23:52] <IndyGunFreak> theLichKing: the windows installer thingy?
[23:52] <jrib> jamGLesT: k :)
[23:52] <theLichKing> Joeb454: thanks
[23:52] <summatusmentis> is there a way to install ubuntu like the debian net-installer?
[23:52] <WaxyFresh> How do i use a .run file. i have a build of unreal and an installer for it but no idea how to use the .run
[23:52] <summatusmentis> I'm on crappy dsl, and 700MB is a lot to download
[23:52] <Joeb454> theLichKing, np :)
[23:52] <jamGLesT> anyone wanna help me more with mounting?
[23:53] <jamGLesT> troxor: still there?
[23:53] <sedra> jamGLesT: slt #ubuntu-fr
[23:53] <helpy> how do i write the kubuntu image on dvd ?
[23:53] <helpy> :s
[23:53] <yaris12346789> is it possible to do apt-get install beryl ?
[23:53] <IndyGunFreak> !compiz | yaris12346789
[23:53] <yaris12346789> or is it included
[23:53] <ubot3`> yaris12346789: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:53] <jamGLesT> sedra:i speak english =)
[23:53] <yaris12346789> ok
[23:53] <yaris12346789> thanks
[23:53] <jamGLesT> troxor: i got an error trying to mount, are you still there?
[23:54] <sonofusion82> helpy, which image to u have? the dvd or cd image?
[23:55] <WaxyFresh> ﻿How do i use a .run file. i have a build of unreal and an installer for it but no idea how to use the .run file. Also would there be a better place to ask this question?
[23:55] <derspankster> sedra, wish I could say that worked but it was the same story, 3 flashes and then to low graphics and need to reconfigure.
[23:55] <brian_> waxyfresh try "./<file>.run"
[23:55] <troxor> jamGLesT: paste it
[23:56] <troxor> yaris12346789: you forgot 5
[23:56] <jamGLesT> troxor:$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[23:56] <jamGLesT> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not supported
[23:56] <jamGLesT> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[23:56] <jamGLesT> Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by
[23:56] <jamGLesT>           clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[23:56] <FloodBot3> jamGLesT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <jamGLesT>           taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.
[23:56] <Eleaf> WaxyFresh, indeed what brian_ said in the terminal.  If that doesn't work, try chmod +x filename.run and retry ./filename.run
[23:56] <troxor> jamGLesT: preferably on pastebin... :\
[23:56] <sedra> derspankster: sorry i cant help anymore
[23:56] <helpy> cd sonofusion82
[23:56] <jamGLesT> troxor: >_>
[23:56] <helpy> 700 mb
[23:56] <glitsj16> helpy: what OS are you using to try and burn it ?
[23:57] <helpy> vista
[23:57] <jamGLesT> troxor: ok what's that
[23:57] <derspankster> sedra, thanks for trying. I did notice that I have 2 screens named in xorg/conf
[23:57] <mateo0802> i need help with ubuntu
[23:57] <troxor> jamGLesT: which action did you choose?
[23:57] <glitsj16> helpy: http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/?page_id=5
[23:57] <summatusmentis> do the torrent files on the ubuntu site get seeded well?
[23:57] <jamGLesT>  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windrive -o “umask=022″
[23:57] <WaxyFresh> Eleaf: r00t@UnicornShrimper:~/Desktop$ ./ unreal.tournament_436-multilanguage.goty.run
[23:57] <WaxyFresh> bash: ./: is a directory
[23:57] <jamGLesT> troxor:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windrive -o “umask=022″
[23:58] <helpy> ok hang on glitsj16
[23:58] <brian_> summatusmentis i downloaded the 8.04 alternate cd in 16 minutes today :)
[23:58] <diff> hello! :)
[23:58] <stemount^> hi
[23:58] <glitsj16> helpy: i will ;)
[23:58] <stemount^> :)
[23:58] <mateo0802> i was told i can change the password to a windows account in ubuntu, how do i do that?
[23:58] <diff> where to find themes for ubuntu?
[23:58] <helpy> thats what i have dled glitsj16
[23:58] <summatusmentis> brian_: on crappy 256K dsl?
[23:58] <cameron> diff: gnome-look.org
[23:58] <brian_> summa no.. on cable
[23:58] <sedra> derspankster: then you have primary and secondary output
[23:58] <tbbottle> mateo: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-change-windows-administrator.html
[23:58] <glitsj16> helpy: i thought you mentioned isorecorder sorry
[23:58] <troxor> jamGLesT: er, the choices it gave you in the pasted text
[23:58] <brian_> summatusmentis: just sayin they're seeded pretty damn well
[23:59] <sedra> diff gnome-look.org
[23:59] <mateo0802> tbbottle: thanks
[23:59] <derspankster> sedra, do you mean dvi and vga?
[23:59] <summatusmentis> brian_: yeah... :-/ there should be a net-install option for ubuntu like there is in debian
[23:59] <helpy> both aren't working
[23:59] <diff> sedra - Thank you very much!!
[23:59] <helpy> even if you download isorecorder its the same file inside
[23:59] <Marty81> ok.. got this error in recovery mode: "chmod: cannot access '/bin/sudo': No such file or directory"
[23:59] <AlmightyHen> Soo, I updated to Ubuntu 8.04 just now and I totally don't have a working xserver now ;D
[23:59] <brian_> summatusmentis: i used to use that for FreeBSD it would be nice.. then you'd be getting the latest files too.. no lengthy updates after install