[01:45] if you want to test the KDE 4.1 Beta 1 packages for Hardy, I have the base packages complete in the ~kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA [01:45] its about time ;) [01:46] which ppa is that? [01:47] is that ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members/ubuntu main? [01:48] kubuntu-members-kde4 [01:48] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive [01:49] Unstated disclaimer: if anyone grabs the kde4.1 beta1 packages from the ppa and it destroys your system, don't say I didn't just tell you...there is a darn good chance of data loss yet [01:49] that is pretty much over with [01:49] I just tested an update and it went smooth [01:49] :D [01:50] * jjesse takes a snapshot [01:50] jjesse: good move [01:50] * Jucato gets his camera [01:50] I forgot about using virtualbox [01:50] * Jucato moins nixternal and jjesse [01:50] evening Jucato [01:51] * Jucato is excited... [01:51] howdy Jucato and jjesse [01:51] hello nixternal [01:51] about what Jucato? [01:51] openSUSE 11 [01:51] hahah j/k! [01:51] * nixternal kicks Jucato in the shins [01:51] my classes start on the 7th [01:51] rock on! [01:51] I should be starting work on that same day :) [01:51] yay for work [01:52] yes...managing a linux distro though? wth did I get myself into [01:52] :D [01:52] yay for school and work!!! [01:52] so I have 1 more week to get distracted [01:52] hopefully I can change them from doing their own distro and utilizing another distro and just creating appliance releases [01:52] 26 more days till the babies due date [01:53] I already have my modules (books)... all I need now are instructions on what to do with them (other then read them of course) [01:53] looks like I will be the "Linux Packaging and Development Engineer" as well as the "Open Source Community Manager" for the company [01:53] i want one of your businnes cards [01:53] gimme a couple of weeks after I start :) [01:54] my interview last week, the one engineer had Kubuntu jokes [01:54] awesome, what does a kubuntu joke sound like? [01:54] he said "don't worry, there is no way we would treat you like a 2nd class citizen here" [01:54] I told him "quit reading blogs!" [01:54] lol [01:54] specially my blog :) [01:58] lol [01:58] hahaha [01:58] no doubt [01:58] wow 42 packages upgraded and 8 new ones ;0 [01:58] nice [02:02] hrmm this is interesting, trying to do a svn diff and getting an error about finding a temp dir [02:02] doh i ran out of space [02:02] hrmm [02:02] wonder how that is going to work mid upgrade [02:06] hrmm [02:06] oh man, I do not like the sound of 'hrmm' [02:06] please, no more kdebase-workspace borkage :P [02:08] nixternal: i'm at 100% disk usaage in this vm [02:08] need to figure something out [02:08] so nixternal, MoM or DaD? [02:08] MoM!!!!! [02:08] MoM ? DaD? [02:08] actually, I could care less [02:09] I used to use DaD because it gave me cleaner diffs to us [02:09] e [02:09] but MoM has had some clean diffs recently [02:09] DaD has the nice notes [02:09] and by clean I mean, not a ton of .po crap in the diffs [02:09] hehe [02:09] ya, wish mom had the notes [02:10] afk taking out trash, walking dog and cleaning up or adding space on my vm [02:19] nixternal: you broke my computer! :p [02:20] nixternal: you can't win, over in k - u ml :( [02:21] I almost worked myself up into a similar post to yours, but i ain't that good at it, and it would just add to the noise [02:24] nixternal: you broke my computer! <-- tsk tsk [02:25] yup [02:25] another customer broken by nixternal [02:25] he deserves it though [02:25] aw.. poor eddie :) [02:25] baaaad richard :) [02:26] can't figure out the man page overwrite right now [02:41] ok restarting now that i've cleaned up some space [02:41] lets see what happens w/ the upgrad ee;0 [02:43] hi jjesse [02:44] hello eddieftw [02:46] nixternal: not booting to a graphical sesion [02:47] AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! [02:47] RGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [02:48] jjesse: did you do a dist-upgrade? [02:48] yes i did [02:48] should i have? [02:49] yes..that was correct [02:49] are you coming up to kdm/gdm at all? [02:49] instersting startx works and now getting a kde 4.devel start screen [02:49] no kdm at all [02:49] hrmm [02:49] did you select kdm-kde4 as the default manager? [02:49] i wasn't prompted [02:50] ok, so you were already using kdm-kde4 then [02:50] i just have kubuntu remix installed [02:50] ok, one down. turned out to be a sync [02:51] nixternal: what's weird about starting out with watch files? :P [02:52] stupid question how do i reconfigure it to make sure i'm using kdm-kde4 [02:54] nixternal: can you also take a peek at bug #179828 and get the mother off my back! :) [02:55] jjesse: I think 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-display-manager [02:55] so when I install kubuntu-kde4-desktop I'm supposed to choose kdm-kde4 and the default manager? [02:56] up to you [02:56] I don't, cuz I had issues with kdm-kde4 way back [02:56] hrmm [02:56] jjesse: that didn't do it? [02:57] if not, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm-kde4' and see what you get [02:57] sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm-kde4 returns nothing [02:57] just kicks me back to the prompt [02:58] sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm? [02:58] kdm is not installed [02:58] yeah, it wouldn't be in remix [02:59] is kwin the window manager? should i have kwin-kde4 installed? [02:59] ohh right.. [02:59] jjesse: kde-window-manager [02:59] that should remove kwin-kde4 [02:59] ah ok i don't have kwin-kde4 installed [03:00] -_- [03:02] jjesse: dpkg -l kde-window-manager [03:02] see if that is installed...it should be if kwin-kde4 is gone [03:02] failed to read archive kde-window-manager: no such file or directory [03:03] ok be back in 20 mins wife is calling [03:03] everyone has a different problem...this is starting to become a real pita [03:17] hrmm [03:17] >.< this close to not being nice [03:18] kdegames co is taking waaay too long :( [03:19] how many packages is the beta supposed to be all together? [03:20] harolddong: when it is all done it will be all of them [03:20] until then, it is only about 5 of them [03:20] I'm still getting the man overwrite error? [03:20] right now the plan is to get the base packages fixed so they aren't borking stuff [03:20] is ther a way around that? [03:21] harolddong: wait until the new kdebase-workspace finishes and re-update and upgrade [03:21] also, for tech support q's, head over to #kubuntu-kde4 [03:21] hell yes! Tracy Morgan is going to be hosting Scare Tatics [03:21] everyone is in there that is testing and bringing the problems up so I can look at fixing them [03:21] they are bringing back scare tactics? [03:22] yes! [03:22] July 9th [03:22] i love that show [03:22] when is openSUSE 11's release? [03:22] hehe, that show rocked [03:22] Jucato: I am about to go kung-fu on you! [03:23] muhahaha [03:23] as long as it isn't gung-fu :) [03:23] haha [03:23] good catch :p [03:23] :D [03:23] I am getting to the point to where I don't even want to continue these beta packages [03:23] win-fu would be worse [03:23] people keep whining, and all it is doing is really pissing me off [03:24] you're not used to it yet? :) [03:24] the whining I mean [03:24] these weren't even going to get done, but I decided to do it for everyone [03:24] people love to wine [03:24] er.. whine [03:24] Jucato: right now, I am getting so many PMs about it [03:24] I don't mind "hey, I am testing what you have in PPA, and this is the error I am getting" [03:25] not "when are the beta packages going to get done???" [03:25] or "the kde4 beta packages are broken" [03:25] I feel like putting a rootkit in the packages and pwning the world :P [03:28] then again, rootkits don't get ya far in *buntu anyways [03:29] well can't you just make a package that will run rm -rf / there? [03:29] I mean, it's running in sudo anyway... [03:29] hmm, that would be a treat [03:29] that it would [03:29] I would pay to see that one, even if I am broke :) [03:30] the next time I do something like this, I will disconnect from IRC and email the entire time [03:30] and....I will not upload the packages anywhere people can find them [03:30] you? broke? [03:30] yes, me, broke [03:30] !nixternal [03:30] oh you're lucky, no bot [03:30] I haven't paid the monthly bot fee [03:30] wb jjesse_ with a tail [03:30] jjesse: is it still broke? [03:31] did nixternal break you too? [03:31] nixternal: i love your posts on kubuntu-users [03:31] thanks :) [03:31] yes he did [03:31] * Jucato unsubscribed from k-users ml a long time ago [03:31] jjesse_: I am filing a wishlist for kdepim/kmail:: [Wishlist] Allow me to send a punch through email [03:31] i ttoally agree [03:31] +1 to that idea [03:32] the reason I haven't is because sometimes there are decent ideas on there, or valid issues that need fixing [03:32] i'm sick of the kde4 sucks this shouldn't be a major release [03:32] nixternal: I think "sometimes" is a bit of an overstatement [03:32] if you have problems go talk to #kde-devel [03:32] jjesse_: you can't have it...you would pull a holyfield on me [03:32] then I would have to file a wishlist report that would allow me to bite your ear off [03:32] lol [03:33] jjesse_: damn, I forgot to add that to my last email [03:33] * Jucato thinks there is more noise in the ML than in kubuntuforums actually... but I'm no longer monitoring both... [03:33] whining to us isn't going to get KDE 4 fixed up to act like windows vista for you [03:33] guys, can't you just make a wishlist for sending (physical) violence through e-mail? then you'd get to choose which kind you wish to inflict [03:33] er.. implement [03:34] lol that's even better [03:34] * jjesse_ heads to bugs.kde.org [03:34] i wonder if the problem i'm having is with vmware-tools and the x config and not the upgrade/update [03:36] What? [03:36] Oh [03:36] I thought Jucato had 22 days for his baby's due date [03:36] I'm not pregnant!!! [03:36] lol that's hiloarus [03:36] * Jucato kicks Daskreech [03:36] i have 22 days [03:37] where are you giving birth? [03:37] ;) [03:38] i'm reverting my snapshot [03:38] on IRC [03:38] wow! [03:38] and going to free up disk space and try the update again [03:38] our first IRC-born :) [03:38] there is free wi-fi in the birthing rooms [03:39] hey guys... can someone of you take a look to kpogre?.. it is at revu~ i was going to try pack it but someone already did... and well its an interesting package ... :p [03:39] speaking of hositprals nixternal did you see/hear about the helocopter crash at butterworth? [03:39] jjesse_: you my friend have bad DDR...I asked you about it the other day and you said you were in Ohio [03:40] oh yeah sorry bout that [03:40] hahahaha [03:40] ok i'm cleaning up disk spce on my vm and trying upgrade again [03:41] jjesse_: maybe you could also try cleaning your RAM as well :) [03:41] ya, it has cobwebs [03:41] you apparently have a bad DDR. or is that nixternal's fault too? === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [03:41] kdebug() << "nixternal is broken"; [03:41] i read on kubuntu-users mailing list everything was nixternal's fault [03:42] alias nixternal=soyuz [03:42] was it soyuz? now I can't remember [03:42] hahaha [03:42] no way, the soyuz recently had a very rough landing [03:43] lol [03:43] Jucato !! howdy [03:43] and you're still up in the air and already you have it rough :) [03:43] yo claydoh!! [03:44] brb.. need/want to buy something sweet to eat and something sweet to wash it down [03:46] * nixternal goes for some cake [03:46] mmm cake [03:46] it has to be wheat free cake for me [03:47] ice cream here :) [03:47] bed here soon [03:56] nixternal: updated from snapshot and restarted kde, working so far [03:57] rebooting [03:57] noticed the application launcher is no longer displayed [03:58] might have to recreat my .kde4 [03:58] nixternal; nope still doesn't boot to kdm [03:59] nixternal: bug!!!!!!! [04:00] ./kdm-kde4: 128: Syntax error: ";;" unexpected (expecting "fi") [04:00] got that upon shutting down and starting up [04:00] come back from your cake ;0 [04:07] nixternal: going to bed see last comment ./kdm-kde4: 128: Syntax error: ";;" unxpeected (expecting "fi") [04:10] CAKE! [04:14] mmm cake [04:16] see, I just updated kde 4.1 beta 1 with both kde3 and kde4 installed on a fresh install w/o any issues [04:16] now to test to see if it runs [04:17] jjesse: I have no idea why you are getting that...I just updated a fresh install that had both kde3 and kde4 installed w/o any problems [04:17] kde 4.1 beta 1 up and running [04:23] Cake is a lliiieeeeee [04:23] apt-get install kake ^_^ [05:42] nixternal: ping? [05:43] what? [05:44] you broke my computer! [05:44] i said i would help you test [05:44] and then you disappeared [05:49] yes, I am busy breaking other people's computers as well! [05:49] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:49] that should fix your troubles [05:52] kdebase-* is a real pita I tell you :) [05:56] i did that [05:56] is when everything broke ;p [06:00] do it again newb [06:00] brb, gotta take the dogs for a walk....I should walk over to your house and let them eat you! [06:01] they wont be stuffed [06:02] mon [06:02] moin even [06:13] it seems to be working now nixternal [06:14] of course it does [06:17] apachelogger: what was your fix to get icons showing up in kickoff way back during the 4.0.0 days? I can't find a 4.0.0-0ubuntu2 diff of your changes [06:18] something about paths is all it says in the changelog, and I am seeing no icons right now in kickoff under kde 4.1 beta 1 [06:45] apachelogger: nevermind those icon questions [06:47] had to blow away ~/.kde4 [06:51] \o/ [07:02] nixternal: so are we done? is that all that testing the 4.1 package consists of? [07:06] Doesit all work? :) [07:06] no complaints from apt [07:08] Do you get a KDM on bootup? [07:08] you do now [07:17] im not sure, i havent shut down [07:17] should i? [07:19] yup [07:20] wil try later [07:20] brb [07:24] kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase-*, and kdebase 4.1 beta 1 packages seem to be pretty darn complete and in good working order at this time [07:24] tomorrow I will start working on the rest of KDE/* [07:25] cd ~nixternal/pub [07:25] more beer [07:27] cd ~/nixternal/bed && sleep [07:27] nixternal: thx for your work [07:27] no prob, thanks for you patience :) [07:28] bdgraue__: the work is yet to be completed though, but at least you can play with wobbly windows :) [07:28] And Scchnnow [07:28] Who did that? [07:28] yea kdm 4.1 starts up and runs perfectly for me [07:28] I know seli wouldn't touch that with a frozen tongue [07:28] Riddell: check your kdm.init for kdebase-workspace and line 128 to see if you have a missing 'fi'...I grabbed from your package and it was missing, but that grab was from a few days ago in Intrepid [07:29] eddieftw: did you hear? Cleversafe said I am a perfect fit...so it looks like I will be working downtown with you soon :) [07:29] Liquid Lunch! [07:29] err, Linux Lunch! [07:30] nixternal: i heard! i sent you congratualtions on the lug chan. [07:30] oh [07:30] let me know when you start, we can have lunch [07:30] shows how much I pay attention [07:30] the next pitcher is on you! [07:30] your buying :P [07:30] gotta get a paycheck first homeskillet [07:30] Liquid? [07:31] Billy Goat Tavern Dark! [07:31] * Daskreech listens to Chicago Rap [07:32] is there a such thing? [07:32] Tongue Twista was all we really had make it [07:32] oh, and a couple of flameouts [07:32] kanye [07:32] what a joke [07:36] Lupe Fiasco [07:37] * nixternal beds now so he can go golfing in the morning [07:37] g'nite [07:37] :-) [07:37] night [07:37] Daskreech: ive met him [07:37] we shop at the same stores ;p [07:43] eddieftw: nixternal? I wouldn't say that round here :-) [07:46] * Daskreech reboots into 4.1 [07:46] Daskreech: lupe [07:46] see you in 20 minutes :-P [07:46] eddieftw: Neat. Sounds like someone I'd like to pick thoughts with [08:00] !test [08:00] Failed! === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [11:10] freeflying: at Mandriva? [11:14] Riddell: yes [11:27] freeflying: what's happening there? [11:28] Riddell: they had a 10 yrs anniversiry last week [11:58] re - back from linuxtag and sleep for a few hours [11:58] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger [11:58] Nightrose: good event? [11:58] uhh, I didn't do it! [11:58] Riddell: definitely awesome [11:58] ah [11:58] will blog later [11:58] * apachelogger hugs Nightrose [11:59] karaoke was great and a lot of fun [11:59] Riddell: you have to join us next year [11:59] yea definitely [12:00] only bad thing was that the car we rented to get back to karlsruhe had some technical problems [12:00] so we had to switch cars on the way [12:00] which took quite some time [12:01] arrived around 4 am while we were supposed to be back around 11pm... [12:05] apachelogger: oO at sleeping at the airport ;-) [12:05] Nightrose: was \sh driving to KA? [12:06] nope sput [12:06] sh was his co-pilot :P [12:06] well, I basically did the very same as \sh :P [12:06] hehe [12:07] uhhh [12:07] Nightrose: do you have to build kdenet while I am neoning? [12:07] huh? [12:08] * Nightrose is not building anything [12:08] ;-) [12:08] Building i386 build of kdenetwork-kde4 4:4.0.4-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa6 in ubuntu hardy RELEASE [lydia-pintscher] [12:08] oO [12:08] so you broke something and LP is looping [12:08] which would explain the slowness of the last few days as well :P [12:08] meh === emonkey-t is now known as emonkey [12:59] Hi everyone. [13:00] how is Intrepid Ibex Alpha1 shaping up? [13:01] depends ;-) [13:02] Ah I see,do you think it will be released in time for june 12th? [13:06] Are you having a bug-day at the same time as Ubuntu's? [13:07] steve555: we are trying to do that most of the time [13:09] steve555: it will be the week of june 12th [13:09] so it may be the 13th [13:12] Ah I see,thank you very much for the information.I am very new to I.R.C,I usually use the Kubuntu Forums if I had a problem,so I thought I might try this sort of communication out. === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_dinner [13:22] steve555: best place for support to help or to get is #kubuntu if non support #kubuntu-offtopic [13:22] * apachelogger hands Nightrose, Hobbsee, steve555 and gnomefreak a cookie [13:23] * Nightrose munches the cookie [13:23] thanks ill eat mine for lunch :) [13:23] hm, as a matter of fact... I should get something to eat [13:24] apachelogger: seen the videos yet? *g* [13:24] no [13:24] which ones? [13:24] oO [13:24] karaoke [13:24] nope [13:24] * apachelogger is videoless [13:25] thanks for the cookie apachelogger :) [13:32] Thanks gnomefreak for the info,I have already joined the #kubuntu cahnnel now. === davmor2_dinner is now known as davmor2 [13:53] * seele yawns [13:53] 'morning everyone [13:53] morning seele [14:08] hi seele :> [14:18] hmm, do we package 4.0.5? [14:21] if 4.0.80 is ready soonish I'd say no [14:21] If not, the fixes for the Qt 4.4-introduced bugs that made it into 4.0.5 should at least be cherrypicked/applied to our 4.0.4 [14:22] true [14:22] Oh, and this one: http://websvn.kde.org/?rev=805916&view=rev [14:28] well volunteers welcome [14:34] Nightrose: why would we not package 4.0.5 if 4.0.80 is out? [14:35] apachelogger: cause 4.0.80 is what people who use 4.0.4 right now proabably want anyway [14:35] Depends on what changed, I'd say. [14:35] O [14:35] o [14:35] I am using 4.0.4 [14:36] And of course people want the latest+greated, even if the version number is the only thing that changed [14:36] and I see no, but really no reason why I should switch my desktop to .80 [14:36] 4.0.80 is not good for general consumption [14:36] It has lots of severe bugs. [14:36] hmmmm [14:36] ok [14:36] Like, my session wouldn't survive more than 30 minutes usage [14:36]