poolie | we're aware of some operational problems with launchpad bzr hosting | 01:56 |
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poolie | we're looking into it and should have more information soon | 01:56 |
emgent | morning | 02:50 |
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Peng | Whee. | 03:10 |
lifeless | We have a small escaping bug, a fix is underway, but we need to disable writes until it is fixed. | 03:13 |
brandon_rhodes | Is launchpad bzr down? I'm a first-time user moving a project there, and "bzr push bzr+ssh://...@bazaar.launchpad.net/..." is giving me a port 22 connection refused error | 03:16 |
spiv | brandon_rhodes: yes, see /topic | 03:17 |
* brandon_rhodes sheepishly checks /topic | 03:17 | |
brandon_rhodes | Ah, thanks. I saw the stuff about the meeting and missed the important bit :-) | 03:17 |
lifeless | we don't have an exact timeframe yet, but it is a prioty | 03:18 |
lifeless | *priority* | 03:18 |
brandon_rhodes | I guess since bzr is distributed, this means that most users are not dead in the water and can still commit to their local branches in the meantime. Neat. | 03:20 |
* brandon_rhodes is still learning bzr | 03:20 | |
lifeless | yup | 03:20 |
lifeless | however it is still inconvenient at best, so we do consider it a serious issue | 03:21 |
* brandon_rhodes waits patiently to announce that his project has adopted Lauchpad until he can upload its actual source code :-) | 03:26 | |
lifeless | what project is it ? | 03:28 |
brandon_rhodes | PyEphem. | 03:28 |
brandon_rhodes | Python's most popular astronomy library, for whatever that's worth. A niche market within a niche market. :-) | 03:29 |
lifeless | lol | 03:29 |
brandon_rhodes | Though since Python is actually more popular in science that in other areas, it's not that bad. It's used at observatories here and there. | 03:30 |
zero-velocity | hey | 03:31 |
zero-velocity | can any one help me with ubuntu? | 03:32 |
wgrant | zero-velocity: You probably want #ubuntu. | 03:32 |
zero-velocity | thank you ;) | 03:32 |
oubiwann | hey folks... I'm getting a connection refused for port 22 on bazaar.launchpad.net | 03:33 |
lifeless | see /topic | 03:34 |
oubiwann | lifeless: thanks man :-) | 03:34 |
superm1 | bah. if i knew that would be happening, i would have pushed this diff earlier tonight :( | 04:19 |
emgent | morning stub :) | 04:41 |
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emgent | tseliot: morning :) | 06:05 |
tseliot | emgent: morning ;) | 06:06 |
JorgePuente | 190 CDs requested on 2008-05-29. 35 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company 6 hours ago. | 06:32 |
JorgePuente | Why only 35 CDs? | 06:32 |
jamesh | because that is the number that was approved | 06:34 |
JorgePuente | 190 CDs requested on 2008-05-29. 35 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company 6 hours ago. | 06:35 |
JorgePuente | Why 35 of 190 CDs only? | 06:35 |
jamesh | why did you need 190 CDs? | 06:35 |
JorgePuente | I'm a administrator of the Free Software Community of Chimbote, Perú | 06:36 |
JorgePuente | I need for to promote Free Software | 06:36 |
JorgePuente | here | 06:36 |
jamesh | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq <- see the third question | 06:38 |
jamesh | 190 CDs is a lot (they aren't free to produce), so it seems the person handling the order reduced it to 35 | 06:38 |
JorgePuente | thank you | 06:38 |
jamesh | if you have a special need, send an email to the address at the end of that answer | 06:39 |
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JorgePuente | I did request 35 Ubuntu CDs | 06:46 |
JorgePuente | The sum of all cds was 190 | 06:47 |
JorgePuente | The total of all cds was 190 (Ubuntu, Edubuntu and Kubuntu) | 06:48 |
jamesh | well, you can send an email to query the order | 06:49 |
JorgePuente | thanks, friend! | 06:56 |
oubiwann | in the launchpad bzr file browser, is there any way to view the latest version of a file? | 07:34 |
oubiwann | e.g., all I can seem to do is view "version X" | 07:35 |
oubiwann | and I don't want that | 07:35 |
oubiwann | I want a link to the *latest* version of the file, not a specific version | 07:36 |
jml | oubiwann: hmm. | 07:36 |
jml | let's have a look. | 07:36 |
jml | oubiwann: URL hacking isn't revealing anything for me. | 07:39 |
oubiwann | yeah, me neither :-( | 07:39 |
oubiwann | looks like someone tried to ask a similar question: https://answers.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+question/31709 | 07:41 |
oubiwann | it was never answered | 07:41 |
oubiwann | yay open source support | 07:41 |
spiv | I believe there's some magic URL hacking you can do, something like "head:" or similar. | 07:41 |
jml | oubiwann: replacing the revision id with head: seems to work. | 07:42 |
oubiwann | jml: nice one! | 07:43 |
jml | spiv: thanks | 07:43 |
spiv | Utterly undiscoverable, but mwhudson is already well aware of this problem :) | 07:44 |
mwhudson | hooray | 07:45 |
oubiwann | jml, spiv: hrm, my URLs don't have a revision id | 07:46 |
spiv | You can also replace the ?file_id=xxx with /path | 07:46 |
spiv | e.g. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr/trunk/annotate/head:/COPYING.txt | 07:46 |
jml | spiv: goodness me | 07:46 |
oubiwann | spiv: ah, that's what I need | 07:46 |
spiv | jml: for bonus wackiness, it *doesn't* work for /download links, just /annotate | 07:47 |
wgrant | Is that because /download also has the object ID? | 07:50 |
mwhudson | spiv: yeah, the download links are a bit of a problem child really | 08:10 |
mwhudson | btw, working on loggerhead helped to teach my how much better an api locateChild is than getattr() | 08:10 |
mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 08:30 |
Hobbsee | *evening* mpt! | 08:31 |
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soren | Any idea why there's no build record for limesurvey at https://edge.launchpad.net/~nijaba/+archive ? | 09:17 |
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gnomefreak | is PPA building intrepid yet? | 09:58 |
cprov | gnomefreak: not yet. | 09:59 |
gnomefreak | ah ok that would be why. thanks | 09:59 |
RAOF | Yeah. I got bitten by that, too. | 09:59 |
gnomefreak | eh most hardy packages run on intrepid anyway so for | 10:00 |
gnomefreak | far | 10:00 |
mwhudson | say what https://edge.launchpad.net/testproject1010/trunk | 10:10 |
sistpoty|work | thanks for taking care of revu/trunk hosted branch :) | 10:18 |
nijaba | if PPA does not build for intrepid, why does it accepts uploads made as such? Would it not make sense for it to refuse such uploads explicitly? | 10:48 |
cprov | nijaba: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/173866 | 10:48 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 173866 in soyuz "Source uploads should result in, at least, one build in order to be accepted" [Medium,In progress] | 10:48 |
* nijaba nods | 10:49 | |
Hobbsee | oh, gah. | 10:49 |
sylvain | Hello | 10:53 |
sylvain | I have a question about importing .pot files. | 11:00 |
oojah | sylvain: Best just to ask and someone will answer when they can. | 11:13 |
sylvain | yep | 11:13 |
sylvain | well, I work on Silva with thisfred (eric casteleijn), and usually he upload pot file | 11:14 |
sylvain | and this work in the day | 11:14 |
sylvain | last thrusday, I did it instead of him, and this went to *review* | 11:15 |
sylvain | and it was never merge and made available in launchpad | 11:15 |
sylvain | this morning, he tried again with his account, and got the same behaviour | 11:15 |
sylvain | does anything go wrong, we suspect that's because we used a different user ? | 11:16 |
* mwhudson pokes jt1 | 11:17 | |
jt1 | mwhudson: ? | 11:18 |
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mwhudson | jtv: i think you can probably answer sylvain's question | 11:18 |
jtv | sylvain: what project is this? | 11:18 |
sylvain | Silva | 11:18 |
sylvain | https://edge.launchpad.net/silva | 11:19 |
sylvain | it's called Silva CMS exactly | 11:19 |
jtv | sylvain: I see it here... Not sure why that got held for review. Just a moment. | 11:19 |
sylvain | jtv: it worked now, we got a notfication | 11:22 |
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zwnj | hi there | 12:14 |
zwnj | i'm the admin of ubuntu-l10n-fa , and we are working on team membership rules and policies | 12:15 |
zwnj | lots of people are interested in joining the team, and they feel bad if they do the translation, but not be a team member | 12:17 |
zwnj | so i want to change the team description to "Ubuntu Persian Translation Coordinators" | 12:17 |
wgrant | zwnj: You should be able to change it as an administrator or owner of the team. | 12:19 |
zwnj | and make another team, like ubuntu-l10n-fa-all, so people can join that, but their translation won't be official until it's been reviewed by one of the coordinators | 12:19 |
zwnj | is it a good approach? | 12:19 |
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wgrant | You intend to give no additional permissions to -all? | 12:19 |
zwnj | wgrant: yes | 12:19 |
wgrant | That sounds sane. | 12:20 |
zwnj | so, i just want to make sure this is not a bad policy | 12:20 |
zwnj | for ubuntu/launchpad | 12:20 |
zwnj | and what's the best choice? -all or -members or what? | 12:20 |
andrea-bs | how about -contrib? | 12:21 |
wgrant | I don't know of a policy for this sort of thing. | 12:21 |
wgrant | -contributors, perhaps. | 12:21 |
wgrant | We have universe-contributors in Ubuntu. | 12:22 |
zwnj | ok, that sound good. thanks wgrant :) | 12:44 |
zwnj | i cannot update the +branding on edge | 12:58 |
zwnj | is it a temporary problem? | 12:58 |
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zwnj | i cannot change anything on EDGE | 13:05 |
zwnj | i forgot how to turn off redirecting to edge | 13:05 |
zwnj | anyone can help me? | 13:06 |
spiv | zwnj: Go to https://launchpad.net/ | 13:06 |
spiv | zwnj: and click the "Disable redirection for 2 hours" link | 13:06 |
zwnj | yes, found that. thanks spiv | 13:06 |
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cprov | for the PPA hackers: intrepid PPA building support was just enabled, sources previously uploaded are being built (they are a lot). | 13:29 |
zwnj | i cannot change anything in the main site neither | 13:30 |
Hobbsee | cprov: ah good, so my poking worked. | 13:30 |
zwnj | is it my account, or a site problem? | 13:30 |
cprov | Hobbsee: quite possibly, enjoy. | 13:31 |
Hobbsee | i will. | 13:31 |
zwnj | cprov: i got Status: "Failed to upload" for new builds. what that means? | 13:33 |
cprov | zwnj: the binaries built do not fit the current archive context. See the bottom of the message you've received (upload log) for a more precise error message. | 13:34 |
KaZeR | hi guys. can anybody help me with the translation tool? | 13:36 |
zwnj | oh, yes. it's Exception while accepting: The following files are already published in PPA for Behnam ZWNJ Esfahbod: bicon_0.2.0-1ubuntu0~ppa4_i386.deb | 13:36 |
KaZeR | how to you update your translations from your code repo? | 13:36 |
cprov | zwnj: right, typical rebuild attempt. Haven't you build the binaries in hardy and copied to intrepid ? | 13:38 |
zwnj | i have build for hardy, but i'm not sure about copying. was it possible throw launchpad? if yes, probably i did. | 13:42 |
cprov | zwnj: that's what is said in your PPA page for the intrepid source " Copied from ubuntu hardy in PPA for Behnam ZWNJ Esfahbod" | 13:44 |
zwnj | right. thanks cprov. | 13:45 |
cprov | zwnj: you are welcome. | 13:45 |
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andrea-bs | it seems that everyone can change the channel topic | 14:46 |
emgent | true. | 14:47 |
emgent | and sounds good for me. | 14:47 |
ruiboon | didnt realise that. sorry if i have accidentally change the topic | 14:49 |
ruiboon | hmm.. this channel seems to be missing +t | 14:50 |
Hobbsee | by design. | 14:51 |
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Peng | A lot of channels on Freenode aren't +t. | 15:11 |
Spads | ruiboon: think of topics like wikis | 15:12 |
ruiboon | Spads: i see. Thanks for the info | 15:13 |
zwnj | can someone help me here to move all pending/former members of one team, to another (new) one? | 15:32 |
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kiko-afk | zwnj, isn't it easier to just rename the old one? | 16:07 |
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zwnj | hi kiko | 16:08 |
zwnj | kiko: no, the first one is the official persian translation team | 16:08 |
zwnj | and the new one, is a team for contributors | 16:08 |
zwnj | unless, you change the team membership in ubuntu-translators | 16:09 |
zwnj | kiko: is that ok with you? | 16:09 |
kiko | zwnj, that's what I was going to propose doing | 16:14 |
kiko | however | 16:14 |
kiko | do you understand the consequences of that change? | 16:14 |
zwnj | kiko: reviewing all previous translations? | 16:15 |
zwnj | i think i can add users one by one to prevent that | 16:15 |
zwnj | kiko: i'm adding members, and it's not as hard as i thought | 16:18 |
zwnj | kiko: thanks btw | 16:18 |
kiko | zwnj, well, it means that anyone in that group will be able to add approved, official translations. | 16:19 |
kiko | maybe that's what you want | 16:19 |
kiko | but maybe it's not! | 16:19 |
zwnj | no, no | 16:20 |
zwnj | i'm cleaning up ubuntu-l10n-fa members, and moving them to ubuntu-l10n-fa-contributors, which is not a official translation team | 16:20 |
zwnj | i could swap their name, approve/reactivate all members of the new ubuntu-l10n-fa-contributors, and ask you to change the official on to new ubuntu-l10n-fa | 16:21 |
kiko | gotcha. | 16:21 |
zwnj | but it's ok now | 16:21 |
kiko | okay, great | 16:21 |
kiko | zwnj, it's awesome that you are doing this, it's really something that all translation teams should do periodically | 16:22 |
kiko | zwnj, maybe you could write up your experience to launchpad-users/ubuntu-translators when you're done? | 16:22 |
zwnj | kiko: sure. actually i'm making the l10n-fa team alive again, and i'll write about the whole process... | 16:23 |
zwnj | Jason Hamilton helped me to make the decisions | 16:25 |
zwnj | i'm not sure if i can find him here in irc | 16:25 |
zwnj | oops, i meant Jeroen Vermeulen | 16:25 |
kiko | heh | 16:26 |
kiko | the one and only jtv | 16:26 |
kiko | and jt1 and jt2 I guess :) | 16:26 |
zwnj | hi jtv | 16:43 |
luisbg | a branch an other user made in my project appears in the projects overview... can I make it not appear there? I would make it abandoned but only that user has access to change the status of the branch | 17:02 |
luisbg | he did a little change months ago and hasnt developed anything further | 17:03 |
kiko | luisbg, just mark it as abandoned | 17:11 |
kiko | and update the whiteboard (tell him to contact you) | 17:12 |
luisbg | I cant mark it as abandoned | 17:12 |
luisbg | "You cannot upload to this branch." | 17:12 |
kiko | even as project owner? interesting. abentley, what do you think? | 17:13 |
abentley | kiko: I don't know what to think. | 17:14 |
kiko | abentley, should he? | 17:15 |
abentley | kiko: Personally, I think the project owner should have absolute power over how their project is displayed in Launchpad. That doesn't seem to be the Launchpad philosophy. | 17:16 |
kiko | abentley, well, I don't know about absolute power, but I'm not discussion philosophy as much as practicality -- should the project owner be entitled to update metadata for project branches? | 17:17 |
kiko | I'm not discussion! A for grammar | 17:18 |
abentley | So, if you think they should have absolute power, the answer is yes. If you don't, the answer is no. | 17:18 |
luisbg | maybe not change metada of the project branch | 17:21 |
luisbg | just change which branches of my project appear and which not | 17:21 |
abentley | luisbg: The fact that the branch is inactive should be enough to make it less and less visible. | 17:22 |
luisbg | abentley, not when the project has only 4 branches | 17:23 |
kiko | abentley, by inactive do you mean no recent commits? | 17:23 |
abentley | kiko: Yes. | 17:24 |
luisbg | it isnt the case | 17:25 |
luisbg | but if a project owner doesnt have this power | 17:25 |
luisbg | trolling could be really easy and annoying | 17:25 |
kiko | luisbg, maybe just email the user and ask him to mark it abandoned if it is | 17:26 |
luisbg | I havent had any replies from the user | 17:26 |
kiko | luisbg, I wonder if there's not a point to displaying the branch, though, since other users could actually pick that work up. too unlikely? | 17:26 |
luisbg | it was intender to be a code reordering of an old version | 17:27 |
luisbg | old enough to be in a different language than the current one | 17:27 |
kiko | luisbg, I can mark it abandoned or obsolete if you like | 17:28 |
luisbg | so anybody picking that up would be unworth it | 17:28 |
abentley | luisbg: I recall there being automatic branch hiding for very inactive branches. | 17:28 |
luisbg | abentley, define very inactive | 17:28 |
abentley | I'm having trouble looking up the exact code, though. | 17:28 |
luisbg | abentley, :) | 17:28 |
danshearer | hello all | 17:36 |
danshearer | is the definition of 'top contributors' written down somewhere? (there isn't any help avail on that page.) | 17:36 |
danshearer | if I look at https://launchpad.net/pidgin/+topcontributors for example | 17:36 |
danshearer | It isn't clear to me just how someone got on the list. | 17:37 |
kiko | it's by karma | 17:37 |
kiko | so the karma events for the user in that project | 17:38 |
danshearer | I asked Jelmer, who is at number 2, and he didn't know for sure either although he guess he might have imported a branch from a | 17:38 |
danshearer | project site out there at some time. | 17:38 |
danshearer | ah, so if I go to the project site I should be able to see everyone listed | 17:38 |
* danshearer searches for 'list karma events' or similar | 17:41 | |
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danshearer | Nope, I can't find any kind of karma log | 17:58 |
danshearer | I got 'Show karma summary' under a user home page but that's it | 17:58 |
danshearer | what am I missing? | 17:58 |
* danshearer is away: dinner | 18:01 | |
rexbron | Hey, would anyone be able to tell me why I got a whole bunch of messages saying that packages in my ppa failed to upload. I have not uploaded anything recently... | 18:04 |
cprov | rexbron: PPAs are building sources uploaded to intrepid. | 18:07 |
rexbron | cprov, ok, I suspected it might have something to do with me copying packages to intrepid before hand | 18:07 |
cprov | rexbron: they have accumulated during the time it wasn't ready yet. | 18:07 |
cprov | rexbron: exactly, if you have copied the corresponding binaries from hardy to intrepid the build result cannot be uploaded, thus the failure. | 18:08 |
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Ekushey | any launchpad admins here? | 19:25 |
kiko | Ekushey, maybe. :) | 19:26 |
Ekushey | kiko are you one? ;) | 19:27 |
kiko | yes! | 19:29 |
Ekushey | kiko, can i knock u on prv? | 19:31 |
kiko | Ekushey, what's it about? I normally prefer questions to be asked on launchpad (see /topic) | 19:32 |
Ekushey | i uploaded po files for translations on https://launchpad.net/rbl/ but it's not approved yet | 19:33 |
Ekushey | is it possible to take a look at it? | 19:33 |
kiko | Ekushey, it needs to be either danilo_ or jtv | 19:33 |
Ekushey | oh ok | 19:34 |
Ekushey | both are away right now | 19:34 |
Ekushey | kiko can you tell me how long it usually takes to get it approved? | 19:35 |
kiko | Ekushey, normally it's quite quick except for the first time | 19:37 |
kiko | Ekushey, I could normally do this except I don't really know much about pofiles :-( | 19:37 |
Ekushey | it's been over a week now | 19:38 |
Ekushey | so that's why i was asking | 19:38 |
Ekushey | kiko, there isn't anything wrong with the files... they are already checked | 19:39 |
kiko | Ekushey, if you ping tomorrow at an earlier time I can definitely get them to look at it | 19:39 |
kiko | what a cool logo | 19:39 |
Ekushey | great, thanks, can you please tell me what time? | 19:40 |
kiko | Ekushey, hmmmm | 19:41 |
kiko | Ekushey, do you derive from Ubuntu? | 19:41 |
kiko | Ekushey, about 5 hours earlier | 19:41 |
Ekushey | ok sure | 19:42 |
Ekushey | kiko yes that's the plan... xubuntu based distro in bengali | 19:45 |
kiko | Ekushey, why don't you translate in ubuntu itself? | 19:47 |
kiko | that way you don't need to fork language packs, etc | 19:47 |
Ekushey | well right now our team members want to translate xfce first and make it available on the xfce site | 19:49 |
kiko | they could do that through launchpad, too | 19:53 |
Ekushey | kiko, yes, that's why i uploaded the xfce files | 19:54 |
mpt | e.g. https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xfce-mcs-plugins/+pots/xfce-mcs-plugins/bn/+translate | 19:55 |
kiko | Ekushey, no, I mean the upstream xfce. or, in ubuntu, as mpt suggests. | 19:56 |
kiko | Ekushey, there's little benefit to running those translations yourself | 19:56 |
Ekushey | ok i'll talk with my friends | 19:57 |
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fta | boom, all builders are dead | 22:25 |
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kiko | fta, they're being upgraded | 22:26 |
fta | oh | 22:28 |
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