| emgent | morning | 02:50 |
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| Iulian | Hey | 12:44 |
| steve555 | Hi there. | 12:45 |
| Iulian | Hello steve | 12:45 |
| steve555 | Hi Iulian | 12:45 |
| steve555 | Where are you from? | 12:46 |
| steve555 | I did have an annoying problem over the last few days.I'm running Kubuntu Hardy Heron,over the last week,after about an hour of booting into Kubuntu,the whole desktop used to completely freeze-up!it would take a few re-sets to get it going again.So I investigated inside my P.C suspecting it was my Graphics Card.I took my Graphics Card out of it's slot,blew as much dust as I could from it's fan,and made sure it was se | 12:54 |
| steve555 | curely seated in it's AGP slot and started up again.So far my computer hasn't froze since :) | 12:54 |
| james_w | hi Iulian, congratulations on becoming a member. | 12:58 |
| Iulian | Hello james, thank you. | 13:02 |
| Iulian | Hey pedro | 13:02 |
| * Iulian - lunch! | 13:02 | |
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| bddebian | Boo | 15:25 |
| jpds | !gary | 15:26 |
| ubottu | be afraid, be *very* afraid | 15:26 |
| bddebian | :) | 15:26 |
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| afflux | hi | 15:43 |
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| jcastro | stgraber: I'm going to start posting to the brainstorm blog starting today | 17:10 |
| jcastro | stgraber: I figure one developer response every few days, since some are rather large | 17:11 |
| stgraber | jcastro: ok | 17:12 |
| tzd | I was wondering if it's possible to suggest a "fix" for the Firefox3 packet? I'm on kubuntu and i've noticed a few other kubuntu users have this issue: greyed out default application for extensions box in FF | 17:37 |
| tzd | the fix one guy suggested in a forum solved my issue and probably a lot of others as well. By installing the packet "firefox3-0-gnome-support" it worked like a charm. I was wondering if it's possible to have that automatically included when choosing to install the Firefox3 packet please? | 17:39 |
| Hewus | tzd: you can file bugs at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug , but check first that it hasn't already been reported | 17:40 |
| tzd | Hewus: ah ok, thanks! | 17:40 |
| Hewus | tzd: no worries, thank you for helping! | 17:40 |
| Hewus | bug #37272 documents an old bug fixed in gparted, but "new" in xfsprogs. I suspect the bug didn't apply to this package in the first place; is it safe to just mark it invalid, or should I still ask for info and mark it incomplete? | 17:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 37272 in gparted "gparted segfaults on access to XFS volume on LVM" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37272 | 17:41 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 37272 in gparted "gparted segfaults on access to XFS volume on LVM" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37272 | 17:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 37272 in gparted "gparted segfaults on access to XFS volume on LVM" [Medium,Fix released] | 17:41 |
| Hewus | whoa, bot fight | 17:42 |
| bdmurray | tzd: firefox-3.0-gnome-support is suggested by firefox-3.0. How did you install? | 17:44 |
| tzd | bdmurray: i right clicked on Firefox-3.0 in adept and choose install... it only adds that packet | 17:44 |
| bdmurray | hmm, that might be a feature of adept | 17:45 |
| tzd | bdmurray: ah ok... so if i do it via apt-get i'll get the gnome support included? | 17:45 |
| bdmurray | tzd: no, you'd need to use aptitude, update-manager or maybe synaptic | 17:46 |
| bdmurray | mvo_: can you help here? | 17:46 |
| tzd | bdmurray: ok, although since it won't work with adept i should still file a bug report right? | 17:47 |
| bdmurray | tzd: I don't belive so not every package manager installs "Suggested" packages | 17:47 |
| mvo_ | tzd: none of the package managers install suggests by default | 17:48 |
| \sh | that's what I thought right away when I saw this discussion..recommends yes (aptitude) but not suggests | 17:49 |
| mvo_ | personally I think that firefox should depend on fierfox-3.0 and gnome-support and for people who do not want this, they should just install firefox-3.0 | 17:49 |
| mvo_ | but that is a decision of the package maintainer of ff | 17:49 |
| tzd | bdmurray: adept usually installs required packages... don't know if there's a difference in handling "required" or "suggested" but shouldn't this gnome support be included since it won't work properly without it? Or does it interfere in some other way perhaps? | 17:49 |
| mvo_ | \sh: yep | 17:49 |
| \sh | if adept is installing suggests, it's a bug | 17:50 |
| mvo_ | tzd: I'm pretty sure its only "suggests" because some people think they should be able to get ff without the gnome libs it pulls in | 17:50 |
| Hobbsee | bdmurray: suggests ahve never been installed by default... | 17:51 |
| Hobbsee | bdmurray: that being said, i don't think adept currently supports recommended packages being installed by default. | 17:51 |
| tzd | mvo_: hmm ok. Oh well, I'll leave it then. | 17:51 |
| bdmurray | mvo_: Is there a table somewhere of package managers and how they deal with recommended / suggested? | 17:52 |
| mvo_ | tzd: just open a whishlist bug so that it becomes a recommends. we install those by default now in intrepid | 17:52 |
| mvo_ | bdmurray: in intrepid it should be all consistent again "recommends-by-default" by everything, suggests by nothing | 17:52 |
| tzd | mvo_: ah ok. Can i do it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug#form-start ? | 17:52 |
| mvo_ | bdmurray: in hardy it was "recommends-by-default: aptitude", "recommends-by-default for everything else only for packages in the section "metapackages" | 17:53 |
| \sh | bdmurray, if i'm correct: aptitude == recommends by default, no suggests, apt-get == no recommends (for hardy and before), no suggests, for intrepid recommends by default | 17:53 |
| bdmurray | mvo_: okay, thanks | 17:53 |
| mvo_ | tzd: that sounds right, please check if this bug is not reported already and please also add a bit of information what functionatlity is misisng without -gnome-support | 17:53 |
| tzd | mvo_: yeah will do. Haven't found any similar though | 17:54 |
| mvo_ | bdmurray: it was a bit inconsistent in the past, mostly for historical reasons, but its all good now (I hope :) | 17:54 |
| jcastro | stgraber: If an ubuntu developer wants access so they can post under the developer comments I should send them to you guys? | 18:01 |
| stgraber | jcastro: yep | 18:04 |
| stgraber | (until we have Launchpad integration done) | 18:04 |
| jcastro | ok | 18:06 |
| tzd | mvo_: ok I've filled it out, although i can't see any alternative to change it to "wishlist" ? | 18:10 |
| tzd | shall i just add that to the title perhaps? | 18:11 |
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| bdmurray | tzd: I can set it to wishlist for you what bug number is it? | 18:15 |
| tzd | bdmurray: cool, I'll just post it :) | 18:16 |
| tzd | bdmurray: #236850 | 18:18 |
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| amikrop | Hello. Any progress with the Change Keyboard Layout bug? | 18:57 |
| amikrop | I think it is quite serious. | 18:57 |
| mattik | Hello, my kubuntu-kde4 was cracked | 19:43 |
| mattik | and it wasupdated | 19:43 |
| hggdh | mattik: what do you mean by "was cracked"? | 19:44 |
| mattik | there is usename named in zenoss in /home-folder | 19:44 |
| hggdh | mattik: you mean you now have a new user in /home, and you did not create it? | 19:45 |
| mattik | I had hole in my firewall, but I hadn't installed ssh | 19:45 |
| mattik | it was in 22-port | 19:46 |
| mattik | Yes, I mean | 19:46 |
| mattik | You can scan my ports now. I'm in windows | 19:47 |
| hggdh | mattik: we will *not* scan you | 19:47 |
| mattik | ok | 19:47 |
| hggdh | mattik: what version of Ubuntu are you running? | 19:48 |
| mattik | Hardy, and kde4 | 19:48 |
| hggdh | mattik: is this your personal computer? | 19:48 |
| mattik | yes it is | 19:48 |
| mattik | Inform I cert.fi? | 19:49 |
| hggdh | mattik: perhaps, if you can gather more data | 19:49 |
| mattik | hggdh, where can I paste screenshot on zenoss home-folder? | 19:50 |
| hggdh | mattik: use pastebin services, for example http://pastebin.ca | 19:51 |
| mattik | thank you | 19:51 |
| hggdh | and then post the URL | 19:51 |
| hggdh | mattik: did you install zenoss packages (http://www.zenoss.com) | 19:54 |
| mattik | oh yes | 19:54 |
| mattik | sorry | 19:54 |
| mattik | I wondered how I have heared it :D I'm really sorry | 19:55 |
| mattik | That's good to hear | 19:56 |
| mattik | I didn't become cracked | 19:56 |
| afflux | mattik: in general, you can't get cracked by just having a port "not blocked" in any firewall, unless you really have a service running on it. | 19:57 |
| mattik | ok, but I don't trust browsers | 19:58 |
| hggdh | mattik: probably not... but it is a good lesson to keep in mind | 19:58 |
| mattik | ok, thanks | 19:58 |
| hggdh | mattik: you need code running on your computer to be owned. | 19:59 |
| mattik | ok, thanks. This is good to hear | 19:59 |
| mattik | So I don't need firewall on kubuntu | 20:00 |
| hggdh | mattik: you should have a firewall, and a paranoid view | 20:01 |
| mattik | hggdh: what is firewall for kubuntu? Is it firestarter? | 20:02 |
| mattik | I have router's firewall | 20:02 |
| mattik | thank you :) I'm glad that you don't laugh me out | 20:09 |
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| jcastro | stgraber: what do you think about a "wontfix"-style resolution for brainstorm? | 20:48 |
| jcastro | something like "thanks but the idea, but this won't be implemented." | 20:48 |
| stgraber | jcastro: indeed, I'm not 100% sure of the point of having "Inaplicable" as for me it'd then be wontfix, deleted or not an idea | 20:50 |
| stgraber | jcastro: btw, you should join #ubuntu-testing so you can also speak with Nicolas | 20:50 |
| hggdh | jcastro: just out of curiosity -- an explanation of why it "won't be fixed" will be provided, right? | 20:50 |
| jcastro | hggdh: well yes, of course. | 20:51 |
| stgraber | hggdh: a developer comment would be added then yes | 20:51 |
| hggdh | good idea, then | 20:51 |
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| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/235889 somebody check plz :) | 21:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 235889 in linux "BUG: scheduling while atomic: archhttp64/7146/0x1000000001" [Undecided,New] | 21:41 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 235889 in linux "BUG: scheduling while atomic: archhttp64/7146/0x1000000001" [Undecided,New] | 21:41 |
| jpds | hmm, two bots | 21:42 |
| dupondje | seems so :P | 21:42 |
| dupondje | anyway ? can check ? | 21:44 |
| dupondje | :) | 21:44 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: I'll take a look | 21:47 |
| dupondje | thx ogasawara :) | 21:47 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: I think the kernel team recently rebased the Intrepid kernel with 2.6.24-rc4 | 21:48 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: so I may have you test when it's available | 21:48 |
| dupondje | but then I have to upgrade to Intrepid ? | 21:48 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: not really, I've got instructions for testing from the kernel-ppa | 21:48 |
| dupondje | isn't it possible to patch it in the Hardy kernel ? | 21:49 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: if we can narrow down the exact patch | 21:49 |
| dupondje | I can try some patches ... | 21:49 |
| dupondje | from diffs of the 2 kernels ... | 21:50 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: do you have an idea which patches to test? | 21:50 |
| dupondje | but what file would be important ? :) | 21:50 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: might be easier doing a git bisect | 21:50 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: if you're familiar with performing one | 21:50 |
| dupondje | I tried to patch the scheduler with the 2.6.26-rc4 diff :p | 21:51 |
| dupondje | but didn't fix it | 21:51 |
| dupondje | the BUG message is printed from scheduler.c right ? | 21:53 |
| dupondje | but what triggers it ? :) | 21:53 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: I'll post some info to the report just in case others running into the same bug might benefit | 21:54 |
| dupondje | okie :D | 21:54 |
| dupondje | will try it this weekend ... cause the pc is not here :) | 21:54 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: ok thanks | 21:54 |
| dupondje | I need to thank you :) | 21:55 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: just curious when you tested the upstream 2.6.26-rc4 kernel did you use an ubuntu kernel config to build the kernel? | 22:02 |
| dupondje | yes | 22:03 |
| dupondje | just copyed it ;) | 22:03 |
| ogasawara | dupondje: great thanks | 22:03 |
| dupondje | and made a .deb from it | 22:03 |
| dupondje | with make-kpkg ? | 22:03 |
| dupondje | :) | 22:03 |
| emgent | heya | 22:10 |
| * dupondje reads | 22:28 | |
| dupondje | :P | 22:28 |
| dupondje | thx for instructions | 22:34 |
| dupondje | i'll try this weekend ... | 22:35 |
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