[17:34] <pembs> could someone explain why i seem to have lost 7GB of space, please. i have 160GB hard drive (ie in reality 149+); i have heron installed and moved in some files gparted confimrs i am using 10Gb plus 5-77 as swap file so i should have 133gb free. iWhen i browse folders though I only have 126 free. I've noticed this since the install I seem to be missing about 7gb.
[17:35] <blue-frog> pembs: ext3 keeps 5% for root
[17:35] <pembs> blue-frog: ok thanks, so thats permanently  reserved?
[17:36] <blue-frog> man tune2fs if you want to have less kept, but beware having some space leftover helps your computer
[17:36] <pembs> thanks
[17:38] <pembs> another question. I cant seem to get terminal to see my external drive. the drive mounts and i can use the folders to move things around, but whenever i have typed a terminal command, I can't seem to get it to communicate with the external drive. I did one command, I  can't recall which to tell me the external media and the drive came up in blue
[22:29] <sobersabre> hola, ompaul
[22:30] <sobersabre> ompaul: more info on my system: it's a clean install of 8.04 + all upgrades upto today.
[22:30] <sobersabre> I made sure I've generated the keys AFTRER upgrading the damn sshd
[22:31] <sobersabre> I've pushed the public and private key to the debian client.
[22:31] <sobersabre> just in case ubuntu doesn't like debian-generated ones.
[22:32] <sobersabre> and made them ~/.ssh/id_dsa (As private key), and owned by connecting user, and moded as 600.
[22:32] <sobersabre> the public key's been added to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[22:33] <sobersabre> I've even created a link /root/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[22:33] <sobersabre> just in case...
[22:34] <ompaul> which is the server?
[22:35] <ompaul> ubuntu is server?
[22:36]  * ompaul waits a moment
[22:36] <ompaul> sobersabre, ?
[22:37] <sobersabre> yep..
[22:37] <sobersabre> ubuntu is the server.
[22:37] <sobersabre> debian 4.0 (also updated && upgraded ) is a client, connecting as root
[22:38] <ompaul> ok so you made a comment about ~/.ssh/id_dsa
[22:38] <ompaul> personally I use rsa but it should be of no merit ;-)
[22:39] <sobersabre> ompaul: lemme try rsa...
[22:39] <sobersabre> if it works, something is fishy in ssh package.
[22:39] <ompaul> sobersabre, it makes no odds what is wrong is the key is not in right package
[22:39] <ompaul> sorry
[22:39] <ompaul> place
[22:40] <ompaul> sobersabre, firstly openssh-server is running on ubuntu?
[22:40] <ompaul> sobersabre, remember I don't know what your keystrokes were so I don't know if you got it all right (well obviously you did not ;-()
[22:41] <sobersabre> ompaul: RSA key worked.
[22:41] <sobersabre> ha!
[22:41] <sobersabre> so... it IS a mess in SSH package.
[22:41] <sobersabre> how do I bugreport ?
[22:42] <ompaul> launchpad.net
[22:42] <sobersabre> I think I've got an account there...
[22:42] <ompaul> you will do if you don't ;-)
[22:42] <ompaul> hehehe
[22:42] <ompaul> I'll leave it with you
[22:42] <ompaul> have fun
[22:42] <sobersabre> thanks for "holding hands" :)
[22:43] <sobersabre> I'm pissed off, I thought I'd finish till now something I'm only now starting :(
[22:43] <sobersabre> I think it should be titled "dsa keys generated by ubuntu-8.04 openssh package are regected as being from vulnerable server.
[22:45] <ompaul> no it would say that it was rejecting it
[22:45] <ompaul> what it said was it could not find them
[22:46] <sobersabre> hmm... it's weirder.
[22:50] <ompaul> sobersabre, I would nuke the dsa keys and start again
[22:50] <ompaul> sobersabre, you can't afford to get it wrong
[22:57] <sobersabre> ompaul: this is not the 1st time or day I am using keys.
[22:57] <sobersabre> I didn't do any errors on that one.
[22:57] <sobersabre> I made 3 repeatitions on generation, copy, retry.
[22:57] <ompaul> sobersabre, you got bug
[22:57] <sobersabre> so, I am CERTAIN the problem is with DSA handling.
[22:58] <sobersabre> I don't have time to debug it really.
[22:58] <sobersabre> so, I've reported.
[22:59] <sobersabre> ompaul: can you try this, and confirm I'm wrong ?
[22:59] <sobersabre> I mean try using dsa key, and login as root with it... ?
[23:00] <ompaul> na I don't do root
[23:00] <ompaul> at all
[23:00] <ompaul> ever
[23:01] <ompaul> my virtual consoles do not allow virtual root
[23:01] <ompaul> but real ones do :)
[23:02] <sobersabre> this only means you're surely not into clusters....
[23:02] <sobersabre> I don't root into open servers.
[23:02] <sobersabre> but intern. networks, etc. is something else.
[23:04] <ompaul> sobersabre, I have multiple desktop servers and I server multiple desktops ;-) with ancillary services
[23:05] <ompaul> so correct I don't do clusters given the geographical nature of the company
[23:05] <sobersabre> hmmm... whatever the 1st sentence means...
[23:05] <sobersabre> :)
[23:06] <ompaul> sobersabre, I don't serve applications much, I serve wmaker desktops or gnome or kde depending on the person / role
[23:06] <sobersabre> you mean you're running a GDM/XDM over IP ?
[23:07] <sobersabre> I mean, remote graphic logins...
[23:07] <sobersabre> or VNC ?