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ftaasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16300/00:01
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* asac getting coffee08:17
[reed]coffee is for the weak :p08:40
asac[reed]: indeed ;)08:48
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gnomefreaki really really hate computers! i have to go out and spend money on my POS laptop09:38
asacPOS?10:44
gnomefreakpeice of shit10:46
gnomefreakpiece even10:46
gnomefreak256x256 is normal icon size?10:46
gnomefreakasac: do you remember the link i gave you for sunbird icon by chance?10:52
* gnomefreak cant find it10:52
asacgnomefreak: which sunbird icon?11:10
asac(obviously i forgot :))11:11
gnomefreakthe bird one11:11
gnomefreakbird holding calendart11:11
gnomefreak-t11:11
asachmm .. .so  we still dont have that?11:11
asacthought it was already committed to bzr11:12
gnomefreakasac: oh might have been let me check11:12
gnomefreakah looks like it was11:13
asacok fine11:14
asaci think i copy it from the source tree to the final package11:14
gnomefreakdo you want me to spin it and upload to mt PPA11:14
asacgnomefreak: why?11:14
asac0.8 is in intrepid11:14
gnomefreakum no it isnt11:14
asacyou can upload it as a backport to mt ...11:14
asacbut i would suggest to upload it to -backports for real then11:14
asacget in touch with jdong11:14
gnomefreak 0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 011:14
gnomefreak        500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages11:14
gnomefreakasac: i havent heard back frm him on anything yet11:15
gnomefreakits kind of getting old11:15
asacgnomefreak: sunbird 0.8 should already be in PPA11:15
asacisnt it?11:15
gnomefreaknot with latest bzr update11:16
asacgnomefreak: ok uploading to intrepid11:17
gnomefreak- update debian/patches/bzXXX_calendar_missing_EXTRA_SCRIPTS_install.patch  this is in both bzr and PPA build11:17
gnomefreakasac: thanks11:17
asacgnomefreak: that is 0.811:17
asac lightning-sunbird - 0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0mt804     asac 2008-04-29  Published  Hardy  Web11:17
asacthats what is in PPA11:17
asacuploading that version to intrepid now11:17
gnomefreakyes but icon is still calendaer and that line is the only thing from changelogs that is same in bzr PPA11:18
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gnomefreakafter pushing to bzr you never rebuilt for PPA or didnt push it to PPA11:18
asacnot sure11:18
asacmaybe the icon is still missing11:18
asacwell see11:18
asacuploading whatever i have in bzr here now11:19
gnomefreaki just installed the one from PPA11:19
gnomefreakbe back in a minute or 3 time for a smoke and try to relax this ops council vs users is gettong old11:20
armin76bumb11:29
asacdump11:30
asaccrimsun: there? about libflashsupport/PA in intrepid/hardy.12:28
asaccrimsun: wonder what you did to fix this in intrepid.12:31
asaccrimsun: what parts of it could be done for hardy?12:31
gnomefreakasac: hardys is done12:34
gnomefreakready for backports but havent sen anyone to push12:35
gnomefreakgutsy is my concern since libflashsupport wasnt in repos until hardy12:35
asache? what are you talking about?12:36
asacwe need to do something in hardy-updates (not -backports)12:37
asacas the sound experience doesnt rock right now12:37
gnomefreakasac: cant add flash to updates12:40
gnomefreakAFAIK it doesnt fit requirments since it adds features12:41
gnomefreakasac: either way flash 10 is done let me know i can change the changelog a bit and it can go into updates but i see it more of a backport and when i asked crimsun about it he told me to go ahead and backport it12:42
asacgnomefreak: well. thats all a matter of priotization. if it fixes our pulseaudio issues its worth to pursue and look at it12:47
gnomefreakasac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/449225 that is the updated changelog for flash 10 i left out bug number just because last i heard it will close bug even if in PPA12:47
asacmy question to crimsun was to understand what is going on ... not if we can or want to do it12:47
gnomefreakasac: it does fix PA issues12:47
gnomefreakasac: the changelog has it in it see above pastebin12:48
asacgnomefreak: its in the changelog. i can read on my own. but changelog doesnt give a good rational - need more info -> thus the question ;)12:48
gnomefreakah ok12:48
gnomefreakasac: do we support filezilla or is that someone else that supports it? im think as far as extension team13:28
asacwhat is filezilla?13:40
asaci think its not related to mozilla13:40
asacDepends: filezilla-common (= 3.0.7.1-0ubuntu3), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21), libgnutls13 (>= 2.0.4-0), libidn11 (>= 0.5.18), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21), libwxbase2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7.1), libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7.1)13:41
asacso no ... no mozilla13:41
asacnone of our apps13:41
gnomefreakits an extension for either ff ot tb i thought13:41
asacnope13:41
asaclook at pkg decription13:42
gnomefreakon never mind i was thinkgign of something else13:42
gnomefreaki just did13:42
gnomefreakits ftp i thought it was that tb one that deals with files13:42
gnomefreaklet me get it i cant recall name off hand13:42
gnomefreakthunderbird-quickfile is it13:43
asacyes13:46
asacdo we have that in the archive? otherwise we should add that to the to-package-extension list13:47
asacif it has a proper license13:47
gnomefreakyes we do13:48
gnomefreakits in universe IIRC13:48
gnomefreak500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages13:48
gnomefreakyep uni13:48
gnomefreakasac: before we take it for extensions team if you are wanting to might want to talk to maintainer Adrien13:50
gnomefreakok ill be back later i have to go get parts for my laptop so maybe i can get it going today, just not sure what version i want to install on it13:50
asaccwong1: back from holiday?15:09
asacunfortunate timing ;)15:09
asaccwong1: so a quick status update: we have ffox RC1 in -proposed and its mostly ready. we need another day of testing because of a langpack update, but then its ready to go15:11
asacthis means that we will break midbrowser unless we come up with a package by then15:11
asacif we get a release today, we can hold back ffox for one more day so midbrowser gets some basic proposed testing too15:12
asacif not, it just will tear apart :/15:12
asacwell ... apt-get upgrade will hold the xulrunner upgrade back, but if you dist-upgrade you will get midbrowser removed from your system15:12
asaccwong1: ^^15:12
asacjimmy_: ^^15:13
asacbug 20301915:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203019 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox crashes on trying to print" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20301915:46
fta2hm, ppa are building for intrepid. at last16:02
asacbug 22026316:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220263 in firefox-3.0 "Bad Firefox integration with dark themes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22026316:10
asacbug 23145916:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 231459 in firefox-3.0 "Crashes on www.hulu.com homepage" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23145916:20
cwong1asac: ping17:24
asaccwong1: hi!17:25
cwong1asac: I am back17:25
asaccwong1: great! i really missed you ;)17:25
cwong1asac: what do I need to do now?17:26
asaccwong1: QA the merge branch .... then merge that to master ... then plumber a release out of it in hardy branch17:26
asacrememberr to bump xulrunner-1.9 min versions for both build- and normal depends to >= 1.9~rc117:27
asaccwong1: if you need a rc1 xulrunner-1.9 package to test get it from mozillateam PPA17:27
asacor hardy-proposed17:27
cwong1asac: OK I will work on it.17:27
asacmaybe makes sense to get the hardy-proposed packages17:27
asacyou can enabled hardy-proposed in system -> administration -> software sources on ubuntu :)17:28
cwong1what is the path to hardy-proposed?17:28
asaccwong1:17:28
asacdeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe17:28
asacdeb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe17:28
asacthose are the lines i am using17:28
cwong1ok17:28
asacyou can replace the mirror as you like obviously17:28
cwong1I will work on it.17:28
asaccwong1: good.17:28
asacplease do thorough QA because midbrowser wont have much time in -proposed left before the whole heap has to be pushed to -updates ;)17:29
cwong1ok17:29
asaccool17:30
geserHello, I'm trying the firefox 3.0rc1 packages out from hardy-proposed. Has someone else display problems when visiting http://wiki.debian.org/? I'm on AMD64.17:55
asacgeser: no. what kind of?18:08
geserasac: I opened a new tab: http://members.ping.de/~mb/Screenshot.png18:13
geserafter switching to my irc client and back to FF and moving the mouse around: http://members.ping.de/~mb/Screenshot-1.png18:14
geserI've seen this till now only on wiki.debian.org18:16
asacgeser: please paste your xorg.conf18:17
asacgeser: and grep for Offscreen in Xorg.0.log18:17
asacmaybe grep -i OffscreenPixma /var/log/Xorg.0.log18:17
geserasac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16438/18:19
geserand http://paste.ubuntu.com/16439/ for the grep output18:20
asachmm18:36
asacgeser: could you look if you received any X11 driver or kernel driver updates from -proposed?18:49
asacis cairo a new version there?18:49
asacmaybe double check using strace -f -eopen firefox that you dont pull in any /usr/local libs or something :)18:50
geserasac: libcairo2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd are from hardy18:57
geserkernel is linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic from hardy-updates18:58
gesergrepping the output from strace for /local/ shows only non-existing files19:00
ftalsof -p `pidof firefox`19:03
ftawhat cairo is loaded ?19:03
jimmy_asac: ping19:04
geserfirefox 20298 michael  mem    REG              254,0   437784  517696 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.17.319:05
geserfirefox 20298 michael  mem    REG              254,0    44704  517295 /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2000.119:05
ftaseems correct19:07
jimmy_asac: u there?19:19
jcastrofta: know anybody tracking packaging Flock?20:00
Jazzvaasac: Did you upload liferea merge? I can't remember if you were fine with the diffs, or did I need to provide something more...20:38
asacJazzva: hmm20:42
asaccant remember either20:42
asacjimmy_: yes20:42
Jazzvaasac: The last I remember is that you asked why I removed .po files from the debdiff. I was told on #ubuntu-motu that it's junk from MoM, and that no .po files should be left in the debdiff. I suppose it's because we use rosetta for translations management. All debdiffs I made for previous merges were with removed contents of .po files.20:44
Jazzvaasac: So, I suppose that afaik  liferea-debian-ubuntunew-without-po.debdiff should be good. But, I'm not 100% sure, as I'm still learning :)20:45
asacJazzva: yes, most likely. sorry. my bad. bug id?20:45
Jazzvaasac: bug 22882720:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 228827 in liferea "Please merge liferea-1.4.15-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22882720:45
JazzvaNo problem. Thanks for the help :)20:46
JazzvaBTW, does anyone know if it's possible (and how) to disable bookmarks showing up ff3 smart bar? Looked through preferences, about:config, googled it, but no info found...20:49
Some_Personwhy is ff3rc1 not in backports?20:53
asacSome_Person: backports for what?20:53
asacgutsy?20:53
Some_Personhardy20:54
Some_Personits only in proposed20:54
asacSome_Person: for hardy it will be in -updates soon ... its currently getting thorough testing in -proposed20:54
Some_Personi hope so20:54
asacits not just firefox that needs testing in this transition... all the applications that use its rendering engine too and so on20:55
asacso better safe than sorry.20:55
Some_Personim tired of beta5, but i dont want to add proposed repos20:55
Some_Personi understand20:55
asacthe post-final releases will be much easier and will roll more in time20:55
Some_Personthe 2 unofficial repos for rc1 are broken20:56
asacgoing back to release on same day policy hopefully soonish20:56
asacSome_Person: please test the -proposed archive20:56
asacif not, dont complain if it breaks for you when it gets to -updates. :)20:56
Some_Personwhat about the other stuff in -proposed? isn't it supposed to be unstable?20:56
asacSome_Person: only things that are ment to go in as stable release updates (SRU) are permitted int20:57
asacand every package that gets into -proposed gets a quick look by an archive admin20:57
asacof course its not as stable as just -updates. but should be fairly stable20:57
Some_Persondo you think its stable enough for production use?20:57
asacbut again, as always: your risk20:57
asacSome_Person: depends ;)20:58
asacfor me its rock solid on my production system20:58
Some_Personwhat about the other 100s of updates? are they safe to install?20:58
asacSome_Person: well ... if they were 100% safe to install, we would push them to -updates directly20:59
asacbut -proposed has high bars :)20:59
Some_Personi understand that, but how likely are they to crash my system and break everything?20:59
asacSome_Person: nobody can answer that question20:59
Some_Personis it easy to revert if i try it?21:00
asacno ... downgrading is usually not easy.21:00
asacyou can add -proposed to the sources.list21:00
asacthen apt-get update21:01
asacand then just apt-get install firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.921:01
asacthat should select only the required packages21:01
asacthen disable proposed again21:01
asacbut well. its your decision ;)21:01
asacenough from me on this21:01
Some_Personi think i'll wait21:05
Some_Personthank you21:06
asacfair enough21:08
asacbug 22389121:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 223891 in ubuntu-mobile "Claws Mail - Help apps are non-functional" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22389121:41
asacjimmy_: did you disappear?21:49
asac:)21:50
asacstill here for a short while21:50
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jimmy_asac: u still here?22:00
asacjimmy_: sure22:01
asacbattery is running low ... but probably have 30 minutes left :)22:01
ftaasac, any comment on the new mozclient ?22:02
asacfta: you did uncommit the other thing right?22:02
asachard for me to look at what changed :(22:02
ftayes22:02
jimmy_ok, i was going to get the xulrunner-rc1 from the hardy propose repository, but the repository only have builds for i386 and amd64, no lpia22:02
asacfta: why do you do that ;)?22:02
jimmy_i can't retrieve that in my target enviroment22:02
asacanyway. havent looked at the latest code.22:02
ftaasac, full rewrite, so the previous commit was useless22:03
asacstill its nice to have evolution22:03
asac;)22:03
asacjimmy_: take the one from ~mozillateam PPA22:03
asacthat has lpia afaict22:03
asacjimmy_: is there no -proposed on ports.ubuntu.com?22:04
asacjimmy_: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.122:04
asacits build on lpia there22:04
ftaasac, sure but the diff was bigger that the src and not interesting22:05
jimmy_asac: i used the respository link you gave to carl earlier22:06
asacok i see you are tough ;) let me pull --overwrite it22:06
asacfta: ^^22:06
asacjimmy_: yeah ... look at your sources.list22:06
jimmy_when i do a apt-get update, i get the following:22:06
asacuse the same form for the host22:06
jimmy_  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]22:07
jimmy_Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages22:07
jimmy_  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]22:07
jimmy_Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Sources22:07
asaci think lpia is on ports.ubuntu.com22:07
jimmy_Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/multiverse Packages22:07
jimmy_  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]22:07
jimmy_Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/universe Packages22:07
jimmy_  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]22:07
asacyeah22:07
jimmy_Fetched 2075kB in 2min2s (16.9kB/s)22:07
asacuse ports.ubuntu.com22:07
jimmy_W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/restricted/binary-lpia/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]22:07
jimmy_W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/main/binary-lpia/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]22:07
asacuse ports.ubuntu.com22:07
jimmy_W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/multiverse/binary-lpia/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]22:07
asac:-P22:07
jimmy_W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/universe/binary-lpia/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]22:07
jimmy_asac: ok22:07
asacjimmy_: paste alarm ;) => paste.ubuntu.com22:07
asac!paste22:07
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)22:07
asac:-P22:07
asacok let me know if ports.ubuntu.com works22:08
jimmy_trying now22:08
jimmy_asac: no, doesn't work, is it deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe?22:11
asacjimmy_: look at how the other lines look like22:11
asacthe host part most likely is different22:11
asacjust remove the ubunu/ part22:12
asacand you only need main for xulrunner22:12
asacnot restricted multiverse universe22:12
asackeeping universe shouldnt hurt though22:12
jimmy_asac: ok22:13
jimmy_asac: i think it is downloading now :)22:14
asacjimmy_: great22:14
cwong1asac: Have you integrate Jimmy's propose fixes for download dir (XDG) and URL bar popup position into Xulrunner rc1?22:19
asaccwong1: no ... ill upload to mobile PPA22:21
asacactually i am not sure if i have received something final yet22:21
asaclaste discussion i remember was about how to get XDG paths through XPCOM22:22
cwong1jimmy_:  you there?22:22
asaccwong1: thats what the bug is about :)22:23
jimmy_asac: i have the final code ready22:23
cwong1asac: can you review his code and see if they are ok. If so, please upload to mobile ppa.22:24
jimmy_asac: if u want to review it, i can paste in the pastebin for review22:24
jimmy_then i'll commit it, so  you can integrate it22:24
asaccwong1: well ... i'd rather bake that a bit on master first. hardy ppa is kind of production archive ... we should be careful about what goes there22:25
asacfor now i will update PPA with the current patch ... to be safe22:26
asacwe should try the new patch in RC2 PPA ... and in real ubuntu archive for final 1.922:26
asacwe start with RC2 in a few days. so not that much time in between22:27
asacjimmy_: please post a copy of the patch to th ebug22:27
asacas attachment22:27
asacits easier to review there than in moblin git22:27
jimmy_ok22:27
cwong1asac: so what do you want us to do once we verify the mibrowser-rc1 works with Xulrunner-rc1?22:28
cwong1asac: I know how to upload package to ubuntu mobile ppa but if you want me to upload the rc1 midrowser to other repo. please send me instruction.22:31
jimmy_asac: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-browser/+bug/217438 for the uploaded patch22:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 217438 in ubuntu-mobile "Browser does not default save directory to ../media " [Low,Confirmed]22:33
asacwait a minute have to swtich location22:34
asaccwong1: when rc1 works, merge it to master, then from there to hardy22:38
asacthen QA the package22:38
asacif thats done let me know22:38
asacat best keep changelog at UNRELEASED22:38
asaci will then do the upload and send you the release patch22:38
asacso you can redo that on top22:38
asaccwong1: UNRELEASED means like:22:41
asacpulseaudio (0.9.10-1ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low22:41
cwong1asac: ok.  Just to let you know that the hardy branch is not what I used to do my recent releases.  We have changed the release process about a month ago. But I will merge the changes to the hardy branch like you said.22:41
asacthat would be awesoke22:42
asacwho does the hardy branch now?22:42
cwong1It's Beta 2.  Couple months old.22:42
jimmy_asac: i just build the midbrowser again the xulrunner1.9rc1, the gconf seems to broken, is the gconf stuff integrated?22:51
asaccwong1: if hardy branch is abandoned then dont bother. thought itw as up to date23:04
asaci can just make the package without it23:04
asacbut we should think about the future of that branch i guess then23:05
asacjimmy_: no its not in there23:05
asacjimmy_: if it works in the in-source xulrunner case23:05
asacand you havent committed your gconf improvements to master yet, i can sort it out for the package before i upload23:05
jimmy_asac: what do you mean by not commited to master yet? i thought the gconf stuff is in master already23:06
asacjimmy_: the original one yes. not your improvements23:07
asacerr sorry23:07
asaci miscontexted this23:07
asacall is fine23:07
asac:)23:07
jimmy_asac: yeah, because i rechecked everything in after the improvements, so all are good23:08
asacjimmy_: well. its not perfect we have to move the gnome requiring code in a dynamic component and put that into xulrunner -gnome-support package23:09
asacbut thats a different story23:09
asacso yes, thats my task i guess. unless you can move the gconf code to a separate directory and make a non-libxul component out of it ;)23:10
jimmy_asac: so are you going to checkin the patched xulrunner for us to test before commiting, or go ahead and commit the rc1 upgrade to master?  we can then create a package and have the QA test it23:11
asacjimmy_: sorry if you misunderstood. all i want in moblin is a merge of merge branch to master23:12
asaci will update the xulrunner package in PPA mobile23:13
asacand update the gconf patch in there23:13
asacif there are problems ill let you know and push the build somewhere for testing. but i dont think there should be any additional issues on top23:13
jimmy_asac: ok, we just want to do some kind of testing that the merge was good before we merge it23:13
jimmy_asac: i dun see any other issues so far23:14
asacjimmy_: ok good23:47
asacjimmy_: if you think that the merge is ok, send a mail. ill package it up tomorrow and steer it in tomorrow then23:48
asacbut please give me an ack today ;)23:48
jimmy_asac: carl will merge that into master tomorrow23:49
asaccwong1: could you please merge today ... otherwise i cant upload until the day after tomorrow23:59
asacwhich would mean thu and would be really bad23:59

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