[00:01] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16300/
[08:17]  * asac getting coffee
[08:40] <[reed]> coffee is for the weak :p
[08:48] <asac> [reed]: indeed ;)
[09:38] <gnomefreak> i really really hate computers! i have to go out and spend money on my POS laptop
[10:44] <asac> POS?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> peice of shit
[10:46] <gnomefreak> piece even
[10:46] <gnomefreak> 256x256 is normal icon size?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> asac: do you remember the link i gave you for sunbird icon by chance?
[10:52]  * gnomefreak cant find it
[11:10] <asac> gnomefreak: which sunbird icon?
[11:11] <asac> (obviously i forgot :))
[11:11] <gnomefreak> the bird one
[11:11] <gnomefreak> bird holding calendart
[11:11] <gnomefreak> -t
[11:11] <asac> hmm .. .so  we still dont have that?
[11:12] <asac> thought it was already committed to bzr
[11:12] <gnomefreak> asac: oh might have been let me check
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ah looks like it was
[11:14] <asac> ok fine
[11:14] <asac> i think i copy it from the source tree to the final package
[11:14] <gnomefreak> do you want me to spin it and upload to mt PPA
[11:14] <asac> gnomefreak: why?
[11:14] <asac> 0.8 is in intrepid
[11:14] <gnomefreak> um no it isnt
[11:14] <asac> you can upload it as a backport to mt ...
[11:14] <asac> but i would suggest to upload it to -backports for real then
[11:14] <asac> get in touch with jdong
[11:14] <gnomefreak>  0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 0
[11:14] <gnomefreak>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages
[11:15] <gnomefreak> asac: i havent heard back frm him on anything yet
[11:15] <gnomefreak> its kind of getting old
[11:15] <asac> gnomefreak: sunbird 0.8 should already be in PPA
[11:15] <asac> isnt it?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> not with latest bzr update
[11:17] <asac> gnomefreak: ok uploading to intrepid
[11:17] <gnomefreak> - update debian/patches/bzXXX_calendar_missing_EXTRA_SCRIPTS_install.patch  this is in both bzr and PPA build
[11:17] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks
[11:17] <asac> gnomefreak: that is 0.8
[11:17] <asac>  lightning-sunbird - 0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0mt804     asac 2008-04-29  Published  Hardy  Web
[11:17] <asac> thats what is in PPA
[11:17] <asac> uploading that version to intrepid now
[11:18] <gnomefreak> yes but icon is still calendaer and that line is the only thing from changelogs that is same in bzr PPA
[11:18] <gnomefreak> after pushing to bzr you never rebuilt for PPA or didnt push it to PPA
[11:18] <asac> not sure
[11:18] <asac> maybe the icon is still missing
[11:18] <asac> well see
[11:19] <asac> uploading whatever i have in bzr here now
[11:19] <gnomefreak> i just installed the one from PPA
[11:20] <gnomefreak> be back in a minute or 3 time for a smoke and try to relax this ops council vs users is gettong old
[11:29] <armin76> bumb
[11:30] <asac> dump
[12:28] <asac> crimsun: there? about libflashsupport/PA in intrepid/hardy.
[12:31] <asac> crimsun: wonder what you did to fix this in intrepid.
[12:31] <asac> crimsun: what parts of it could be done for hardy?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> asac: hardys is done
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ready for backports but havent sen anyone to push
[12:35] <gnomefreak> gutsy is my concern since libflashsupport wasnt in repos until hardy
[12:36] <asac> he? what are you talking about?
[12:37] <asac> we need to do something in hardy-updates (not -backports)
[12:37] <asac> as the sound experience doesnt rock right now
[12:40] <gnomefreak> asac: cant add flash to updates
[12:41] <gnomefreak> AFAIK it doesnt fit requirments since it adds features
[12:42] <gnomefreak> asac: either way flash 10 is done let me know i can change the changelog a bit and it can go into updates but i see it more of a backport and when i asked crimsun about it he told me to go ahead and backport it
[12:47] <asac> gnomefreak: well. thats all a matter of priotization. if it fixes our pulseaudio issues its worth to pursue and look at it
[12:47] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/449225 that is the updated changelog for flash 10 i left out bug number just because last i heard it will close bug even if in PPA
[12:47] <asac> my question to crimsun was to understand what is going on ... not if we can or want to do it
[12:47] <gnomefreak> asac: it does fix PA issues
[12:48] <gnomefreak> asac: the changelog has it in it see above pastebin
[12:48] <asac> gnomefreak: its in the changelog. i can read on my own. but changelog doesnt give a good rational - need more info -> thus the question ;)
[12:48] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[13:28] <gnomefreak> asac: do we support filezilla or is that someone else that supports it? im think as far as extension team
[13:40] <asac> what is filezilla?
[13:40] <asac> i think its not related to mozilla
[13:41] <asac> Depends: filezilla-common (= 3.0.7.1-0ubuntu3), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21), libgnutls13 (>= 2.0.4-0), libidn11 (>= 0.5.18), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21), libwxbase2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7.1), libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7.1)
[13:41] <asac> so no ... no mozilla
[13:41] <asac> none of our apps
[13:41] <gnomefreak> its an extension for either ff ot tb i thought
[13:41] <asac> nope
[13:42] <asac> look at pkg decription
[13:42] <gnomefreak> on never mind i was thinkgign of something else
[13:42] <gnomefreak> i just did
[13:42] <gnomefreak> its ftp i thought it was that tb one that deals with files
[13:42] <gnomefreak> let me get it i cant recall name off hand
[13:43] <gnomefreak> thunderbird-quickfile is it
[13:46] <asac> yes
[13:47] <asac> do we have that in the archive? otherwise we should add that to the to-package-extension list
[13:47] <asac> if it has a proper license
[13:48] <gnomefreak> yes we do
[13:48] <gnomefreak> its in universe IIRC
[13:48] <gnomefreak> 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages
[13:48] <gnomefreak> yep uni
[13:50] <gnomefreak> asac: before we take it for extensions team if you are wanting to might want to talk to maintainer Adrien
[13:50] <gnomefreak> ok ill be back later i have to go get parts for my laptop so maybe i can get it going today, just not sure what version i want to install on it
[15:09] <asac> cwong1: back from holiday?
[15:09] <asac> unfortunate timing ;)
[15:11] <asac> cwong1: so a quick status update: we have ffox RC1 in -proposed and its mostly ready. we need another day of testing because of a langpack update, but then its ready to go
[15:11] <asac> this means that we will break midbrowser unless we come up with a package by then
[15:12] <asac> if we get a release today, we can hold back ffox for one more day so midbrowser gets some basic proposed testing too
[15:12] <asac> if not, it just will tear apart :/
[15:12] <asac> well ... apt-get upgrade will hold the xulrunner upgrade back, but if you dist-upgrade you will get midbrowser removed from your system
[15:12] <asac> cwong1: ^^
[15:13] <asac> jimmy_: ^^
[15:46] <asac> bug 203019
[16:02] <fta2> hm, ppa are building for intrepid. at last
[16:10] <asac> bug 220263
[16:20] <asac> bug 231459
[17:24] <cwong1> asac: ping
[17:25] <asac> cwong1: hi!
[17:25] <cwong1> asac: I am back
[17:25] <asac> cwong1: great! i really missed you ;)
[17:26] <cwong1> asac: what do I need to do now?
[17:26] <asac> cwong1: QA the merge branch .... then merge that to master ... then plumber a release out of it in hardy branch
[17:27] <asac> rememberr to bump xulrunner-1.9 min versions for both build- and normal depends to >= 1.9~rc1
[17:27] <asac> cwong1: if you need a rc1 xulrunner-1.9 package to test get it from mozillateam PPA
[17:27] <asac> or hardy-proposed
[17:27] <cwong1> asac: OK I will work on it.
[17:27] <asac> maybe makes sense to get the hardy-proposed packages
[17:28] <asac> you can enabled hardy-proposed in system -> administration -> software sources on ubuntu :)
[17:28] <cwong1> what is the path to hardy-proposed?
[17:28] <asac> cwong1:
[17:28] <asac> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[17:28] <asac> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[17:28] <asac> those are the lines i am using
[17:28] <cwong1> ok
[17:28] <asac> you can replace the mirror as you like obviously
[17:28] <cwong1> I will work on it.
[17:28] <asac> cwong1: good.
[17:29] <asac> please do thorough QA because midbrowser wont have much time in -proposed left before the whole heap has to be pushed to -updates ;)
[17:29] <cwong1> ok
[17:30] <asac> cool
[17:55] <geser> Hello, I'm trying the firefox 3.0rc1 packages out from hardy-proposed. Has someone else display problems when visiting http://wiki.debian.org/? I'm on AMD64.
[18:08] <asac> geser: no. what kind of?
[18:13] <geser> asac: I opened a new tab: http://members.ping.de/~mb/Screenshot.png
[18:14] <geser> after switching to my irc client and back to FF and moving the mouse around: http://members.ping.de/~mb/Screenshot-1.png
[18:16] <geser> I've seen this till now only on wiki.debian.org
[18:17] <asac> geser: please paste your xorg.conf
[18:17] <asac> geser: and grep for Offscreen in Xorg.0.log
[18:17] <asac> maybe grep -i OffscreenPixma /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:19] <geser> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16438/
[18:20] <geser> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/16439/ for the grep output
[18:36] <asac> hmm
[18:49] <asac> geser: could you look if you received any X11 driver or kernel driver updates from -proposed?
[18:49] <asac> is cairo a new version there?
[18:50] <asac> maybe double check using strace -f -eopen firefox that you dont pull in any /usr/local libs or something :)
[18:57] <geser> asac: libcairo2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd are from hardy
[18:58] <geser> kernel is linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic from hardy-updates
[19:00] <geser> grepping the output from strace for /local/ shows only non-existing files
[19:03] <fta> lsof -p `pidof firefox`
[19:03] <fta> what cairo is loaded ?
[19:04] <jimmy_> asac: ping
[19:05] <geser> firefox 20298 michael  mem    REG              254,0   437784  517696 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.17.3
[19:05] <geser> firefox 20298 michael  mem    REG              254,0    44704  517295 /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2000.1
[19:07] <fta> seems correct
[19:19] <jimmy_> asac: u there?
[20:00] <jcastro> fta: know anybody tracking packaging Flock?
[20:38] <Jazzva> asac: Did you upload liferea merge? I can't remember if you were fine with the diffs, or did I need to provide something more...
[20:42] <asac> Jazzva: hmm
[20:42] <asac> cant remember either
[20:42] <asac> jimmy_: yes
[20:44] <Jazzva> asac: The last I remember is that you asked why I removed .po files from the debdiff. I was told on #ubuntu-motu that it's junk from MoM, and that no .po files should be left in the debdiff. I suppose it's because we use rosetta for translations management. All debdiffs I made for previous merges were with removed contents of .po files.
[20:45] <Jazzva> asac: So, I suppose that afaik  liferea-debian-ubuntunew-without-po.debdiff should be good. But, I'm not 100% sure, as I'm still learning :)
[20:45] <asac> Jazzva: yes, most likely. sorry. my bad. bug id?
[20:45] <Jazzva> asac: bug 228827
[20:46] <Jazzva> No problem. Thanks for the help :)
[20:49] <Jazzva> BTW, does anyone know if it's possible (and how) to disable bookmarks showing up ff3 smart bar? Looked through preferences, about:config, googled it, but no info found...
[20:53] <Some_Person> why is ff3rc1 not in backports?
[20:53] <asac> Some_Person: backports for what?
[20:53] <asac> gutsy?
[20:54] <Some_Person> hardy
[20:54] <Some_Person> its only in proposed
[20:54] <asac> Some_Person: for hardy it will be in -updates soon ... its currently getting thorough testing in -proposed
[20:54] <Some_Person> i hope so
[20:55] <asac> its not just firefox that needs testing in this transition... all the applications that use its rendering engine too and so on
[20:55] <asac> so better safe than sorry.
[20:55] <Some_Person> im tired of beta5, but i dont want to add proposed repos
[20:55] <Some_Person> i understand
[20:55] <asac> the post-final releases will be much easier and will roll more in time
[20:56] <Some_Person> the 2 unofficial repos for rc1 are broken
[20:56] <asac> going back to release on same day policy hopefully soonish
[20:56] <asac> Some_Person: please test the -proposed archive
[20:56] <asac> if not, dont complain if it breaks for you when it gets to -updates. :)
[20:56] <Some_Person> what about the other stuff in -proposed? isn't it supposed to be unstable?
[20:57] <asac> Some_Person: only things that are ment to go in as stable release updates (SRU) are permitted int
[20:57] <asac> and every package that gets into -proposed gets a quick look by an archive admin
[20:57] <asac> of course its not as stable as just -updates. but should be fairly stable
[20:57] <Some_Person> do you think its stable enough for production use?
[20:57] <asac> but again, as always: your risk
[20:58] <asac> Some_Person: depends ;)
[20:58] <asac> for me its rock solid on my production system
[20:58] <Some_Person> what about the other 100s of updates? are they safe to install?
[20:59] <asac> Some_Person: well ... if they were 100% safe to install, we would push them to -updates directly
[20:59] <asac> but -proposed has high bars :)
[20:59] <Some_Person> i understand that, but how likely are they to crash my system and break everything?
[20:59] <asac> Some_Person: nobody can answer that question
[21:00] <Some_Person> is it easy to revert if i try it?
[21:00] <asac> no ... downgrading is usually not easy.
[21:00] <asac> you can add -proposed to the sources.list
[21:01] <asac> then apt-get update
[21:01] <asac> and then just apt-get install firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.9
[21:01] <asac> that should select only the required packages
[21:01] <asac> then disable proposed again
[21:01] <asac> but well. its your decision ;)
[21:01] <asac> enough from me on this
[21:05] <Some_Person> i think i'll wait
[21:06] <Some_Person> thank you
[21:08] <asac> fair enough
[21:41] <asac> bug 223891
[21:49] <asac> jimmy_: did you disappear?
[21:50] <asac> :)
[21:50] <asac> still here for a short while
[22:00] <jimmy_> asac: u still here?
[22:01] <asac> jimmy_: sure
[22:01] <asac> battery is running low ... but probably have 30 minutes left :)
[22:02] <fta> asac, any comment on the new mozclient ?
[22:02] <asac> fta: you did uncommit the other thing right?
[22:02] <asac> hard for me to look at what changed :(
[22:02] <fta> yes
[22:02] <jimmy_> ok, i was going to get the xulrunner-rc1 from the hardy propose repository, but the repository only have builds for i386 and amd64, no lpia
[22:02] <asac> fta: why do you do that ;)?
[22:02] <jimmy_> i can't retrieve that in my target enviroment
[22:02] <asac> anyway. havent looked at the latest code.
[22:03] <fta> asac, full rewrite, so the previous commit was useless
[22:03] <asac> still its nice to have evolution
[22:03] <asac> ;)
[22:03] <asac> jimmy_: take the one from ~mozillateam PPA
[22:03] <asac> that has lpia afaict
[22:04] <asac> jimmy_: is there no -proposed on ports.ubuntu.com?
[22:04] <asac> jimmy_: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.1
[22:04] <asac> its build on lpia there
[22:05] <fta> asac, sure but the diff was bigger that the src and not interesting
[22:06] <jimmy_> asac: i used the respository link you gave to carl earlier
[22:06] <asac> ok i see you are tough ;) let me pull --overwrite it
[22:06] <asac> fta: ^^
[22:06] <asac> jimmy_: yeah ... look at your sources.list
[22:06] <jimmy_> when i do a apt-get update, i get the following:
[22:06] <asac> use the same form for the host
[22:07] <jimmy_>   404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]
[22:07] <jimmy_> Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages
[22:07] <jimmy_>   404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]
[22:07] <jimmy_> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Sources
[22:07] <asac> i think lpia is on ports.ubuntu.com
[22:07] <jimmy_> Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/multiverse Packages
[22:07] <jimmy_>   404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]
[22:07] <jimmy_> Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/universe Packages
[22:07] <jimmy_>   404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]
[22:07] <asac> yeah
[22:07] <jimmy_> Fetched 2075kB in 2min2s (16.9kB/s)
[22:07] <asac> use ports.ubuntu.com
[22:07] <jimmy_> W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/restricted/binary-lpia/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]
[22:07] <jimmy_> W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/main/binary-lpia/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]
[22:07] <asac> use ports.ubuntu.com
[22:07] <jimmy_> W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/multiverse/binary-lpia/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]
[22:07] <asac> :-P
[22:07] <jimmy_> W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/universe/binary-lpia/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911]
[22:07] <jimmy_> asac: ok
[22:07] <asac> jimmy_: paste alarm ;) => paste.ubuntu.com
[22:07] <asac> !paste
[22:07] <asac> :-P
[22:08] <asac> ok let me know if ports.ubuntu.com works
[22:08] <jimmy_> trying now
[22:11] <jimmy_> asac: no, doesn't work, is it deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe?
[22:11] <asac> jimmy_: look at how the other lines look like
[22:11] <asac> the host part most likely is different
[22:12] <asac> just remove the ubunu/ part
[22:12] <asac> and you only need main for xulrunner
[22:12] <asac> not restricted multiverse universe
[22:12] <asac> keeping universe shouldnt hurt though
[22:13] <jimmy_> asac: ok
[22:14] <jimmy_> asac: i think it is downloading now :)
[22:14] <asac> jimmy_: great
[22:19] <cwong1> asac: Have you integrate Jimmy's propose fixes for download dir (XDG) and URL bar popup position into Xulrunner rc1?
[22:21] <asac> cwong1: no ... ill upload to mobile PPA
[22:21] <asac> actually i am not sure if i have received something final yet
[22:22] <asac> laste discussion i remember was about how to get XDG paths through XPCOM
[22:22] <cwong1> jimmy_:  you there?
[22:23] <asac> cwong1: thats what the bug is about :)
[22:23] <jimmy_> asac: i have the final code ready
[22:24] <cwong1> asac: can you review his code and see if they are ok. If so, please upload to mobile ppa.
[22:24] <jimmy_> asac: if u want to review it, i can paste in the pastebin for review
[22:24] <jimmy_> then i'll commit it, so  you can integrate it
[22:25] <asac> cwong1: well ... i'd rather bake that a bit on master first. hardy ppa is kind of production archive ... we should be careful about what goes there
[22:26] <asac> for now i will update PPA with the current patch ... to be safe
[22:26] <asac> we should try the new patch in RC2 PPA ... and in real ubuntu archive for final 1.9
[22:27] <asac> we start with RC2 in a few days. so not that much time in between
[22:27] <asac> jimmy_: please post a copy of the patch to th ebug
[22:27] <asac> as attachment
[22:27] <asac> its easier to review there than in moblin git
[22:27] <jimmy_> ok
[22:28] <cwong1> asac: so what do you want us to do once we verify the mibrowser-rc1 works with Xulrunner-rc1?
[22:31] <cwong1> asac: I know how to upload package to ubuntu mobile ppa but if you want me to upload the rc1 midrowser to other repo. please send me instruction.
[22:33] <jimmy_> asac: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-browser/+bug/217438 for the uploaded patch
[22:34] <asac> wait a minute have to swtich location
[22:38] <asac> cwong1: when rc1 works, merge it to master, then from there to hardy
[22:38] <asac> then QA the package
[22:38] <asac> if thats done let me know
[22:38] <asac> at best keep changelog at UNRELEASED
[22:38] <asac> i will then do the upload and send you the release patch
[22:38] <asac> so you can redo that on top
[22:41] <asac> cwong1: UNRELEASED means like:
[22:41] <asac> pulseaudio (0.9.10-1ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[22:41] <cwong1> asac: ok.  Just to let you know that the hardy branch is not what I used to do my recent releases.  We have changed the release process about a month ago. But I will merge the changes to the hardy branch like you said.
[22:42] <asac> that would be awesoke
[22:42] <asac> who does the hardy branch now?
[22:42] <cwong1> It's Beta 2.  Couple months old.
[22:51] <jimmy_> asac: i just build the midbrowser again the xulrunner1.9rc1, the gconf seems to broken, is the gconf stuff integrated?
[23:04] <asac> cwong1: if hardy branch is abandoned then dont bother. thought itw as up to date
[23:04] <asac> i can just make the package without it
[23:05] <asac> but we should think about the future of that branch i guess then
[23:05] <asac> jimmy_: no its not in there
[23:05] <asac> jimmy_: if it works in the in-source xulrunner case
[23:05] <asac> and you havent committed your gconf improvements to master yet, i can sort it out for the package before i upload
[23:06] <jimmy_> asac: what do you mean by not commited to master yet? i thought the gconf stuff is in master already
[23:07] <asac> jimmy_: the original one yes. not your improvements
[23:07] <asac> err sorry
[23:07] <asac> i miscontexted this
[23:07] <asac> all is fine
[23:07] <asac> :)
[23:08] <jimmy_> asac: yeah, because i rechecked everything in after the improvements, so all are good
[23:09] <asac> jimmy_: well. its not perfect we have to move the gnome requiring code in a dynamic component and put that into xulrunner -gnome-support package
[23:09] <asac> but thats a different story
[23:10] <asac> so yes, thats my task i guess. unless you can move the gconf code to a separate directory and make a non-libxul component out of it ;)
[23:11] <jimmy_> asac: so are you going to checkin the patched xulrunner for us to test before commiting, or go ahead and commit the rc1 upgrade to master?  we can then create a package and have the QA test it
[23:12] <asac> jimmy_: sorry if you misunderstood. all i want in moblin is a merge of merge branch to master
[23:13] <asac> i will update the xulrunner package in PPA mobile
[23:13] <asac> and update the gconf patch in there
[23:13] <asac> if there are problems ill let you know and push the build somewhere for testing. but i dont think there should be any additional issues on top
[23:13] <jimmy_> asac: ok, we just want to do some kind of testing that the merge was good before we merge it
[23:14] <jimmy_> asac: i dun see any other issues so far
[23:47] <asac> jimmy_: ok good
[23:48] <asac> jimmy_: if you think that the merge is ok, send a mail. ill package it up tomorrow and steer it in tomorrow then
[23:48] <asac> but please give me an ack today ;)
[23:49] <jimmy_> asac: carl will merge that into master tomorrow
[23:59] <asac> cwong1: could you please merge today ... otherwise i cant upload until the day after tomorrow
[23:59] <asac> which would mean thu and would be really bad