[00:01] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16300/ === asac_ is now known as asac [08:17] * asac getting coffee [08:40] <[reed]> coffee is for the weak :p [08:48] [reed]: indeed ;) === fta_ is now known as fta [09:38] i really really hate computers! i have to go out and spend money on my POS laptop [10:44] POS? [10:46] peice of shit [10:46] piece even [10:46] 256x256 is normal icon size? [10:52] asac: do you remember the link i gave you for sunbird icon by chance? [10:52] * gnomefreak cant find it [11:10] gnomefreak: which sunbird icon? [11:11] (obviously i forgot :)) [11:11] the bird one [11:11] bird holding calendart [11:11] -t [11:11] hmm .. .so we still dont have that? [11:12] thought it was already committed to bzr [11:12] asac: oh might have been let me check [11:13] ah looks like it was [11:14] ok fine [11:14] i think i copy it from the source tree to the final package [11:14] do you want me to spin it and upload to mt PPA [11:14] gnomefreak: why? [11:14] 0.8 is in intrepid [11:14] um no it isnt [11:14] you can upload it as a backport to mt ... [11:14] but i would suggest to upload it to -backports for real then [11:14] get in touch with jdong [11:14] 0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 0 [11:14] 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages [11:15] asac: i havent heard back frm him on anything yet [11:15] its kind of getting old [11:15] gnomefreak: sunbird 0.8 should already be in PPA [11:15] isnt it? [11:16] not with latest bzr update [11:17] gnomefreak: ok uploading to intrepid [11:17] - update debian/patches/bzXXX_calendar_missing_EXTRA_SCRIPTS_install.patch this is in both bzr and PPA build [11:17] asac: thanks [11:17] gnomefreak: that is 0.8 [11:17] lightning-sunbird - 0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0mt804 asac 2008-04-29 Published Hardy Web [11:17] thats what is in PPA [11:17] uploading that version to intrepid now [11:18] yes but icon is still calendaer and that line is the only thing from changelogs that is same in bzr PPA === jt1 is now known as jtv [11:18] after pushing to bzr you never rebuilt for PPA or didnt push it to PPA [11:18] not sure [11:18] maybe the icon is still missing [11:18] well see [11:19] uploading whatever i have in bzr here now [11:19] i just installed the one from PPA [11:20] be back in a minute or 3 time for a smoke and try to relax this ops council vs users is gettong old [11:29] bumb [11:30] dump [12:28] crimsun: there? about libflashsupport/PA in intrepid/hardy. [12:31] crimsun: wonder what you did to fix this in intrepid. [12:31] crimsun: what parts of it could be done for hardy? [12:34] asac: hardys is done [12:35] ready for backports but havent sen anyone to push [12:35] gutsy is my concern since libflashsupport wasnt in repos until hardy [12:36] he? what are you talking about? [12:37] we need to do something in hardy-updates (not -backports) [12:37] as the sound experience doesnt rock right now [12:40] asac: cant add flash to updates [12:41] AFAIK it doesnt fit requirments since it adds features [12:42] asac: either way flash 10 is done let me know i can change the changelog a bit and it can go into updates but i see it more of a backport and when i asked crimsun about it he told me to go ahead and backport it [12:47] gnomefreak: well. thats all a matter of priotization. if it fixes our pulseaudio issues its worth to pursue and look at it [12:47] asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/449225 that is the updated changelog for flash 10 i left out bug number just because last i heard it will close bug even if in PPA [12:47] my question to crimsun was to understand what is going on ... not if we can or want to do it [12:47] asac: it does fix PA issues [12:48] asac: the changelog has it in it see above pastebin [12:48] gnomefreak: its in the changelog. i can read on my own. but changelog doesnt give a good rational - need more info -> thus the question ;) [12:48] ah ok [13:28] asac: do we support filezilla or is that someone else that supports it? im think as far as extension team [13:40] what is filezilla? [13:40] i think its not related to mozilla [13:41] Depends: filezilla-common (= 3.0.7.1-0ubuntu3), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21), libgnutls13 (>= 2.0.4-0), libidn11 (>= 0.5.18), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21), libwxbase2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7.1), libwxgtk2.8-0 (>= 2.8.7.1) [13:41] so no ... no mozilla [13:41] none of our apps [13:41] its an extension for either ff ot tb i thought [13:41] nope [13:42] look at pkg decription [13:42] on never mind i was thinkgign of something else [13:42] i just did [13:42] its ftp i thought it was that tb one that deals with files [13:42] let me get it i cant recall name off hand [13:43] thunderbird-quickfile is it [13:46] yes [13:47] do we have that in the archive? otherwise we should add that to the to-package-extension list [13:47] if it has a proper license [13:48] yes we do [13:48] its in universe IIRC [13:48] 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages [13:48] yep uni [13:50] asac: before we take it for extensions team if you are wanting to might want to talk to maintainer Adrien [13:50] ok ill be back later i have to go get parts for my laptop so maybe i can get it going today, just not sure what version i want to install on it [15:09] cwong1: back from holiday? [15:09] unfortunate timing ;) [15:11] cwong1: so a quick status update: we have ffox RC1 in -proposed and its mostly ready. we need another day of testing because of a langpack update, but then its ready to go [15:11] this means that we will break midbrowser unless we come up with a package by then [15:12] if we get a release today, we can hold back ffox for one more day so midbrowser gets some basic proposed testing too [15:12] if not, it just will tear apart :/ [15:12] well ... apt-get upgrade will hold the xulrunner upgrade back, but if you dist-upgrade you will get midbrowser removed from your system [15:12] cwong1: ^^ [15:13] jimmy_: ^^ [15:46] bug 203019 [15:46] Launchpad bug 203019 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox crashes on trying to print" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203019 [16:02] hm, ppa are building for intrepid. at last [16:10] bug 220263 [16:10] Launchpad bug 220263 in firefox-3.0 "Bad Firefox integration with dark themes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220263 [16:20] bug 231459 [16:20] Launchpad bug 231459 in firefox-3.0 "Crashes on www.hulu.com homepage" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231459 [17:24] asac: ping [17:25] cwong1: hi! [17:25] asac: I am back [17:25] cwong1: great! i really missed you ;) [17:26] asac: what do I need to do now? [17:26] cwong1: QA the merge branch .... then merge that to master ... then plumber a release out of it in hardy branch [17:27] rememberr to bump xulrunner-1.9 min versions for both build- and normal depends to >= 1.9~rc1 [17:27] cwong1: if you need a rc1 xulrunner-1.9 package to test get it from mozillateam PPA [17:27] or hardy-proposed [17:27] asac: OK I will work on it. [17:27] maybe makes sense to get the hardy-proposed packages [17:28] you can enabled hardy-proposed in system -> administration -> software sources on ubuntu :) [17:28] what is the path to hardy-proposed? [17:28] cwong1: [17:28] deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe [17:28] deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe [17:28] those are the lines i am using [17:28] ok [17:28] you can replace the mirror as you like obviously [17:28] I will work on it. [17:28] cwong1: good. [17:29] please do thorough QA because midbrowser wont have much time in -proposed left before the whole heap has to be pushed to -updates ;) [17:29] ok [17:30] cool [17:55] Hello, I'm trying the firefox 3.0rc1 packages out from hardy-proposed. Has someone else display problems when visiting http://wiki.debian.org/? I'm on AMD64. [18:08] geser: no. what kind of? [18:13] asac: I opened a new tab: http://members.ping.de/~mb/Screenshot.png [18:14] after switching to my irc client and back to FF and moving the mouse around: http://members.ping.de/~mb/Screenshot-1.png [18:16] I've seen this till now only on wiki.debian.org [18:17] geser: please paste your xorg.conf [18:17] geser: and grep for Offscreen in Xorg.0.log [18:17] maybe grep -i OffscreenPixma /var/log/Xorg.0.log [18:19] asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16438/ [18:20] and http://paste.ubuntu.com/16439/ for the grep output [18:36] hmm [18:49] geser: could you look if you received any X11 driver or kernel driver updates from -proposed? [18:49] is cairo a new version there? [18:50] maybe double check using strace -f -eopen firefox that you dont pull in any /usr/local libs or something :) [18:57] asac: libcairo2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd are from hardy [18:58] kernel is linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic from hardy-updates [19:00] grepping the output from strace for /local/ shows only non-existing files [19:03] lsof -p `pidof firefox` [19:03] what cairo is loaded ? [19:04] asac: ping [19:05] firefox 20298 michael mem REG 254,0 437784 517696 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.17.3 [19:05] firefox 20298 michael mem REG 254,0 44704 517295 /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2000.1 [19:07] seems correct [19:19] asac: u there? [20:00] fta: know anybody tracking packaging Flock? [20:38] asac: Did you upload liferea merge? I can't remember if you were fine with the diffs, or did I need to provide something more... [20:42] Jazzva: hmm [20:42] cant remember either [20:42] jimmy_: yes [20:44] asac: The last I remember is that you asked why I removed .po files from the debdiff. I was told on #ubuntu-motu that it's junk from MoM, and that no .po files should be left in the debdiff. I suppose it's because we use rosetta for translations management. All debdiffs I made for previous merges were with removed contents of .po files. [20:45] asac: So, I suppose that afaik liferea-debian-ubuntunew-without-po.debdiff should be good. But, I'm not 100% sure, as I'm still learning :) [20:45] Jazzva: yes, most likely. sorry. my bad. bug id? [20:45] asac: bug 228827 [20:45] Launchpad bug 228827 in liferea "Please merge liferea-1.4.15-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228827 [20:46] No problem. Thanks for the help :) [20:49] BTW, does anyone know if it's possible (and how) to disable bookmarks showing up ff3 smart bar? Looked through preferences, about:config, googled it, but no info found... [20:53] why is ff3rc1 not in backports? [20:53] Some_Person: backports for what? [20:53] gutsy? [20:54] hardy [20:54] its only in proposed [20:54] Some_Person: for hardy it will be in -updates soon ... its currently getting thorough testing in -proposed [20:54] i hope so [20:55] its not just firefox that needs testing in this transition... all the applications that use its rendering engine too and so on [20:55] so better safe than sorry. [20:55] im tired of beta5, but i dont want to add proposed repos [20:55] i understand [20:55] the post-final releases will be much easier and will roll more in time [20:56] the 2 unofficial repos for rc1 are broken [20:56] going back to release on same day policy hopefully soonish [20:56] Some_Person: please test the -proposed archive [20:56] if not, dont complain if it breaks for you when it gets to -updates. :) [20:56] what about the other stuff in -proposed? isn't it supposed to be unstable? [20:57] Some_Person: only things that are ment to go in as stable release updates (SRU) are permitted int [20:57] and every package that gets into -proposed gets a quick look by an archive admin [20:57] of course its not as stable as just -updates. but should be fairly stable [20:57] do you think its stable enough for production use? [20:57] but again, as always: your risk [20:58] Some_Person: depends ;) [20:58] for me its rock solid on my production system [20:58] what about the other 100s of updates? are they safe to install? [20:59] Some_Person: well ... if they were 100% safe to install, we would push them to -updates directly [20:59] but -proposed has high bars :) [20:59] i understand that, but how likely are they to crash my system and break everything? [20:59] Some_Person: nobody can answer that question [21:00] is it easy to revert if i try it? [21:00] no ... downgrading is usually not easy. [21:00] you can add -proposed to the sources.list [21:01] then apt-get update [21:01] and then just apt-get install firefox-3.0 and xulrunner-1.9 [21:01] that should select only the required packages [21:01] then disable proposed again [21:01] but well. its your decision ;) [21:01] enough from me on this [21:05] i think i'll wait [21:06] thank you [21:08] fair enough [21:41] bug 223891 [21:41] Launchpad bug 223891 in ubuntu-mobile "Claws Mail - Help apps are non-functional" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223891 [21:49] jimmy_: did you disappear? [21:50] :) [21:50] still here for a short while === stevel_ is now known as stevel [22:00] asac: u still here? [22:01] jimmy_: sure [22:01] battery is running low ... but probably have 30 minutes left :) [22:02] asac, any comment on the new mozclient ? [22:02] fta: you did uncommit the other thing right? [22:02] hard for me to look at what changed :( [22:02] yes [22:02] ok, i was going to get the xulrunner-rc1 from the hardy propose repository, but the repository only have builds for i386 and amd64, no lpia [22:02] fta: why do you do that ;)? [22:02] i can't retrieve that in my target enviroment [22:02] anyway. havent looked at the latest code. [22:03] asac, full rewrite, so the previous commit was useless [22:03] still its nice to have evolution [22:03] ;) [22:03] jimmy_: take the one from ~mozillateam PPA [22:03] that has lpia afaict [22:04] jimmy_: is there no -proposed on ports.ubuntu.com? [22:04] jimmy_: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.1 [22:04] its build on lpia there [22:05] asac, sure but the diff was bigger that the src and not interesting [22:06] asac: i used the respository link you gave to carl earlier [22:06] ok i see you are tough ;) let me pull --overwrite it [22:06] fta: ^^ [22:06] jimmy_: yeah ... look at your sources.list [22:06] when i do a apt-get update, i get the following: [22:06] use the same form for the host [22:07] 404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911] [22:07] Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages [22:07] 404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911] [22:07] Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Sources [22:07] i think lpia is on ports.ubuntu.com [22:07] Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/multiverse Packages [22:07] 404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911] [22:07] Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/universe Packages [22:07] 404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911] [22:07] yeah [22:07] Fetched 2075kB in 2min2s (16.9kB/s) [22:07] use ports.ubuntu.com [22:07] W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/restricted/binary-lpia/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911] [22:07] W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/main/binary-lpia/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911] [22:07] use ports.ubuntu.com [22:07] W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/multiverse/binary-lpia/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911] [22:07] :-P [22:07] W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-proposed/universe/binary-lpia/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 10.7.210.136 911] [22:07] asac: ok [22:07] jimmy_: paste alarm ;) => paste.ubuntu.com [22:07] !paste [22:07] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [22:07] :-P [22:08] ok let me know if ports.ubuntu.com works [22:08] trying now [22:11] asac: no, doesn't work, is it deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe? [22:11] jimmy_: look at how the other lines look like [22:11] the host part most likely is different [22:12] just remove the ubunu/ part [22:12] and you only need main for xulrunner [22:12] not restricted multiverse universe [22:12] keeping universe shouldnt hurt though [22:13] asac: ok [22:14] asac: i think it is downloading now :) [22:14] jimmy_: great [22:19] asac: Have you integrate Jimmy's propose fixes for download dir (XDG) and URL bar popup position into Xulrunner rc1? [22:21] cwong1: no ... ill upload to mobile PPA [22:21] actually i am not sure if i have received something final yet [22:22] laste discussion i remember was about how to get XDG paths through XPCOM [22:22] jimmy_: you there? [22:23] cwong1: thats what the bug is about :) [22:23] asac: i have the final code ready [22:24] asac: can you review his code and see if they are ok. If so, please upload to mobile ppa. [22:24] asac: if u want to review it, i can paste in the pastebin for review [22:24] then i'll commit it, so you can integrate it [22:25] cwong1: well ... i'd rather bake that a bit on master first. hardy ppa is kind of production archive ... we should be careful about what goes there [22:26] for now i will update PPA with the current patch ... to be safe [22:26] we should try the new patch in RC2 PPA ... and in real ubuntu archive for final 1.9 [22:27] we start with RC2 in a few days. so not that much time in between [22:27] jimmy_: please post a copy of the patch to th ebug [22:27] as attachment [22:27] its easier to review there than in moblin git [22:27] ok [22:28] asac: so what do you want us to do once we verify the mibrowser-rc1 works with Xulrunner-rc1? [22:31] asac: I know how to upload package to ubuntu mobile ppa but if you want me to upload the rc1 midrowser to other repo. please send me instruction. [22:33] asac: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-browser/+bug/217438 for the uploaded patch [22:33] Launchpad bug 217438 in ubuntu-mobile "Browser does not default save directory to ../media " [Low,Confirmed] [22:34] wait a minute have to swtich location [22:38] cwong1: when rc1 works, merge it to master, then from there to hardy [22:38] then QA the package [22:38] if thats done let me know [22:38] at best keep changelog at UNRELEASED [22:38] i will then do the upload and send you the release patch [22:38] so you can redo that on top [22:41] cwong1: UNRELEASED means like: [22:41] pulseaudio (0.9.10-1ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [22:41] asac: ok. Just to let you know that the hardy branch is not what I used to do my recent releases. We have changed the release process about a month ago. But I will merge the changes to the hardy branch like you said. [22:42] that would be awesoke [22:42] who does the hardy branch now? [22:42] It's Beta 2. Couple months old. [22:51] asac: i just build the midbrowser again the xulrunner1.9rc1, the gconf seems to broken, is the gconf stuff integrated? [23:04] cwong1: if hardy branch is abandoned then dont bother. thought itw as up to date [23:04] i can just make the package without it [23:05] but we should think about the future of that branch i guess then [23:05] jimmy_: no its not in there [23:05] jimmy_: if it works in the in-source xulrunner case [23:05] and you havent committed your gconf improvements to master yet, i can sort it out for the package before i upload [23:06] asac: what do you mean by not commited to master yet? i thought the gconf stuff is in master already [23:07] jimmy_: the original one yes. not your improvements [23:07] err sorry [23:07] i miscontexted this [23:07] all is fine [23:07] :) [23:08] asac: yeah, because i rechecked everything in after the improvements, so all are good [23:09] jimmy_: well. its not perfect we have to move the gnome requiring code in a dynamic component and put that into xulrunner -gnome-support package [23:09] but thats a different story [23:10] so yes, thats my task i guess. unless you can move the gconf code to a separate directory and make a non-libxul component out of it ;) [23:11] asac: so are you going to checkin the patched xulrunner for us to test before commiting, or go ahead and commit the rc1 upgrade to master? we can then create a package and have the QA test it [23:12] jimmy_: sorry if you misunderstood. all i want in moblin is a merge of merge branch to master [23:13] i will update the xulrunner package in PPA mobile [23:13] and update the gconf patch in there [23:13] if there are problems ill let you know and push the build somewhere for testing. but i dont think there should be any additional issues on top [23:13] asac: ok, we just want to do some kind of testing that the merge was good before we merge it [23:14] asac: i dun see any other issues so far [23:47] jimmy_: ok good [23:48] jimmy_: if you think that the merge is ok, send a mail. ill package it up tomorrow and steer it in tomorrow then [23:48] but please give me an ack today ;) [23:49] asac: carl will merge that into master tomorrow [23:59] cwong1: could you please merge today ... otherwise i cant upload until the day after tomorrow [23:59] which would mean thu and would be really bad