/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/02/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

tgm4883_laptoppcglue, what are you coming in from?00:00
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, corrupted tables?  I don't know though00:00
superm1the device ordering changes from from gutsy to hardy i think00:01
superm1so be mindful of that00:01
superm1and try different jacks on your 350 if need be00:01
avihaybI don't know either, but the front end and back end seem to connect00:01
avihaybbut when I hit the watch tv button, it just goes back to the menu with the watch tv00:02
pcgluesuperm1, as far as i know, there's only have one audio in jack on pvr-35000:02
pcgluesuperm1, unless the audio out can become audio in?00:02
superm1hum00:03
superm1i doubt that00:03
superm1you sure the pc is still playing audio in general?00:03
superm1like no issues there?00:03
tgm4883_laptoppcglue, well there is one for the tuner too00:03
pcgluetgm4883_latop, audio coming in from a satellite set top box00:03
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, check the backend log, see if any errors come up00:04
tgm4883_laptoppcglue, does the satellite box have coax?00:04
tgm4883_laptoperr00:04
tgm4883_laptopcoax out00:04
pcgluesuperm1, yes, there's audio in general.  old recordings still work.  recordings made after upgrade to hardy has no audio.00:04
superm1oh yuck00:05
superm1to rule out coincidences, you made sure that you are getting audio in from the satellite box00:05
avihaybwell, my hdd decided he dosn't like me, and stops talking to the rest of the computer :->00:05
superm1and that your audio cables are still plugged in properly and stuff like that right?00:05
pcgluesuperm1, yes, if i plug in the audio in to my mic in on soundcard, i hear the audio00:05
avihaybwas just after I installed a fan00:05
pcgluetgm4883_laptop, yes, i believe it does have coax out and thanks for that idea. i'll test that out.00:06
pcglueif that works, i may resort to using that for the time being00:06
pcgluebut this irks me00:06
pcgluecan i use ivtv to change inputs while mythbackend is running?  or does mythbackend have to be stopped?00:08
pcglueivtv utils...00:08
tgm4883_laptoppcglue, you can do it while it's running00:08
tgm4883_laptopmy channel change script actually changes audio inputs every time it changes channels00:09
pcglueok, then i'm covered there.  i tried that already, changing audio inputs and watching livetv to see if audio returns.00:09
pcgluetgm4883_laptop, superm1, are you guys mythbuntu devs?00:10
* superm1 hides00:13
* tgm4883_laptop whistles00:14
tgm4883_laptoplook a plane00:15
* tgm4883_laptop runs00:15
avihayb:->00:15
superm1so in short yes pcglue00:16
avihaybwell, I got my hdd to play along, but now the sound sounds like it's comeing thru an HF radio00:16
pcgluehaha00:17
pcgluewhat capture device are you guys using?00:18
avihaybbtw, I didn't see the plane00:18
superm1pcglue, i use a pvr-500, air2pc hd5000, and hdhomerun00:19
pcgluesuperm1, you have all that in one backend?00:20
tgm4883_laptopI have a PVR-500 and PVR-150.  Used to have a HD5500, but moved and now only have directv00:21
superm1yeah00:21
superm1i used to have two backends (and more tuners)00:21
superm1but decided to consolidate00:22
tgm4883_laptopMy PVR-150 is in a slave backend00:22
tgm4883_laptopand a secondary slave backend has no tuners for comm flagging only00:23
* tgm4883_laptop has too many computers00:23
pcglueI guess not many people use the PVR-350 so I'm in uncharted territory here00:23
tgm4883_laptoppcglue, try the coax, see if you get audio that way00:24
superm1well it's the same functionality as a 250 or 15000:24
superm1i mean i do have a 350 sitting around somewhere00:24
superm1i just dont use it00:24
defendguinhow is mythbuntu 8.04??   i was considering redoing my box and i was wondering if it was worth the trouble00:24
avihaybyep, a little reset fixed the HF voice00:24
pcgluetgm4883_laptop, yes, I plan to try that when I get home.00:25
javatexanokay...i am back...anyideas why I can connect to mysql with squirrelsql client but not a new FE running mythbuntu 8.0400:25
avihaybdefendguin: I tryed the liveCD but it dosn't workfor some reason, after picking run from cd or install, it throws me to the ash shell. please notify me if it dosn't happen to you00:26
defendguinwhats the difference between the desktop download and the alternate download00:27
tgm4883_laptoplive cd vs alt cd00:28
defendguindoes the mythbuntu CD have the remote desktop stuff on it?00:29
defendguinvinagre and what not00:30
javatexanwow..thats cool and curious.  Came back after 2 hours...just for the heck of it tried again...it works....LOL00:31
javatexango figure why or what changed00:31
defendguinand will dvd playback work out of the box00:34
avihaybany chanse I can be greedy and ask for an online walkthru for instaling mythTV via apt-get on xubuntu8.04?00:35
avihaybtomorrow could also be good00:36
defendguinavihayb: what help do you need?00:36
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, sure http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu00:37
avihaybwell, lest time I tryed to install, it didn't go so smoothly. I reboted for some reason, and when the system was back, mysqld_safe was hoging all the cpu00:37
avihaybI don't know how I did it, but I sorta managed somehow to make the front end and backend to talk to each other00:38
avihayband then I tryed to watch tv via "the thing", but when I try to click the watch tv button, it just returns to the menu with the watch tv00:39
avihaybtgm4883_laptop: will that work on xubuntu?00:40
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, yes is should00:40
avihaybarm, your should gave me a small cram in the side...00:41
pcgluesuperm1, the hd5000 and hdhomerun, they only receive over the air HD signals?  it's not for cable or to get like discovery channel?00:42
superm1i use QAM25600:42
superm1so anything not encrypted i can grab00:42
superm1which ends up being blah00:42
superm1just the OTA stations broadcast on the cable00:42
superm1i prefer to record them on the cable though because more reliable signal00:43
pcgluei see, thanks00:43
superm1and w/ cable compression, after snipping out commercials they fit on DVDs just barely00:43
superm1OTA has lower compression (so looks better in high motion)00:43
superm1but sucks to archive00:43
superm1it ends up being like .2 GB too big often00:43
avihaybso, I should install the mythbuntu-desktop package?00:45
avihaybtgm4883_laptop:  FF dosn't support the apt protocall00:46
avihaybso the get link dosn't work...00:46
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, what are you running?00:47
avihaybthat's a very general question00:47
tgm4883_laptopheh, yes00:47
tgm4883_laptopwhat ver of FF00:47
avihaybff-firefox00:47
avihayb200:47
tgm4883_laptopand what version of Ubuntu00:47
avihaybxubuntu 8.0400:48
tgm4883_laptopinteresting00:48
tgm4883_laptopit doesn't pop up a little box that says you want to install it?00:48
avihaybnope. I took a looksee in the php file... :->00:48
tgm4883_laptopinteresting, seems to be a xubuntu bug then00:49
avihaybapt:mythbuntu-desktop00:49
tgm4883_laptopi'd install mythbuntu-control-centre from apt00:49
tgm4883_laptopthen configure from there00:49
avihaybsooooo, not the desktop thing00:49
tgm4883_laptopforget about the mythbuntu-desktop package for now00:49
avihaybmkey00:49
tgm4883_laptopunless you already started it00:49
avihaybtime to mention that this will be the beck end, and posibley the only frontend00:50
avihayb*back00:51
avihaybpossibly00:51
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, does FF 2 come standard on Xubuntu 8.04 or did you install that yourself?00:51
avihaybstandard00:52
tgm4883_laptopok00:52
avihaybwell, it's a 7.10 upgrade to 8.0400:52
avihayband all the file associasions seem to be missing00:52
tgm4883_laptophmm00:53
tgm4883_laptopthat might actually be a Xubuntu bug, i remember reading upgrade bugs regarding xubuntu00:54
tgm4883_laptopi'll check into it00:54
superm1avihayb, check and see apturl is installed00:54
avihaybmkey. ok, I'v got the controll panle00:54
superm1dpkg -l | grep apturl00:54
avihaybsec00:54
superm1it looks like it should be on 7.1000:54
superm1er 8.0400:55
superm1its a reverse dependency for xubuntu-desktop00:55
superm1wow i can't talk00:55
superm1xubuntu-desktop has it listed as a dependency00:55
avihaybthat dpkg parameter shows the help.00:55
superm1use a l as in lemon00:56
superm1not I as in Intrepid00:56
avihaybI did bouth i and l00:56
superm1and that's a pipe next to the -l00:56
joecurleehi all... i am running mythbuntu 8.04 (actually in the middle of reinstalling for various reasons). I am wanting to control my cable box via ir blaster and I have a cable that came with my old tivo... it's mono 1/8 with two transmitters on the other end... what port would this need to be hooked up to on my mythtv box?00:57
avihaybbut the package is installed00:57
avihaybI knew it was a pipe00:58
joecurleei'm guessing I don't have the correct port... have been doing research but can't get any clear answers so I thought I'd check here00:58
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, i'm thinking I know his issue00:58
* tgm4883_laptop smacks head00:58
avihaybwhen I sudo apt-get remove apturl, it asks me if i'm sure00:58
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, Ubuntu (or in this case Xubuntu) needs to know what to do with the apt-url right?00:58
tgm4883_laptop<avihayb> well, it's a 7.10 upgrade to 8.0400:59
tgm4883_laptop<avihayb> and all the file associasions seem to be missing00:59
avihaybit says that bouth the apturl and ubufox will be removed if i hit y00:59
tgm4883_laptopif he lost all file associations, that would break it no?00:59
tgm4883_laptopi'm thinking xubuntu doesn't know that it needs to use apt to install what comes from the apt-url00:59
tgm4883_laptopI could be completely wrong though01:00
avihaybbtw, about hthe control pannle, should I just mess around with it untill it works?01:00
avihayb*panel01:00
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, no01:00
avihayb:-<01:00
tgm4883_laptopbut you have that installed now01:00
avihaybyes01:00
tgm4883_laptopok, is this going to be used as a desktop or just a frontend/backend (or something else)01:00
avihaybwell, it's hocked up to the 27" LCD via a VGA cable, but I'd guess that the ocasional browsing, watching divx movies torrrenting for divx movies and burning them to cds/dvd's is also01:03
avihaybsomething01:03
avihaybthat we'd like to do01:03
tgm4883_laptopok01:04
tgm4883_laptopis it the primary backend?01:04
avihaybI understand that mythTV has plugins for some of that "functionality"01:04
avihaybyes01:04
tgm4883_laptopperfect01:04
avihaybyey!01:04
tgm4883_laptopi'd use MCC to enable the frontend and primary backend, then let it install the necessary packages01:04
tgm4883_laptopthat should setup most things you need I would think01:05
avihaybdo I need a step by step guyd, or is the MCC self explanatory enough?01:05
avihayb*guid01:05
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, MCC is pretty easy to use01:05
tgm4883_laptoppop it up01:06
avihaybe01:06
tgm4883_laptopif anything is unclear ask here01:06
tgm4883_laptopyou can also check the installation guide01:06
tgm4883_laptopwhich is available on the mythbuntu.org site01:06
avihaybso I picked primery backend, and frontend01:07
avihayband xubuntu desktop01:07
tgm4883_laptopxubuntu-desktop should already be checked01:07
tgm4883_laptopsince you already have it installed01:07
tgm4883_laptopthat may be why your xubuntu isn't working as designed01:07
avihaybyes, sory for takeing credit for that...01:07
tgm4883_laptopah ok01:08
tgm4883_laptoplooks good01:08
avihaybnow, should I set some other settings, or hit apply?01:08
tgm4883_laptophit apply, let it install and configure the base mythtv packages01:09
tgm4883_laptopthen we can install extra functionality01:10
sardiskanhelp01:10
sardiskanI'm getting this error which I choose "Burn DVD"01:10
sardiskanCannot burn a DVD. The last run failed to create a DVD.01:11
avihaybok, packages are happily downloading01:12
sardiskanddgoose...R U around?01:13
avihaybhumm, ther's a nice movie on perl harbor01:18
avihaybtook me long enough to figure out that there's a huge delay between the feed and the image on the screen...01:19
avihaybtgm4883_laptop: ok, downloading is finished01:30
avihaybtgm4883_laptop: and now mysqld_safe is hogging all my CPU01:32
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, any idea why mysqld_safe would do that?01:39
avihaybwell, whats next doc?01:48
avihaybI haven't touched anything this time in fear of awakening the wraff of mythTV01:49
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, sec01:50
avihaybtgm4883_laptop: and I'm already useing the card via VLC, I guess I should shut it down now...01:50
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, is there anything in /var/log/mysql.log or /var/log/mysql/01:52
avihaybthe cpu hogging by the MySql deamon is affecting playback by minor, yet iretating hickups once in a while01:52
avihaybmysql is clean01:53
avihaybno mysql.log directory01:54
tgm4883_laptopno mysql.log directory, just /var/log/mysql/01:54
superm1i've seen it happen01:56
avihaybempty01:57
superm1but it cleaned itself up01:57
tgm4883_laptopis there a way to see what it is doing?01:57
avihaybbut /var/log/mythtv/backend something is huge and growing01:57
avihaybrepeating the same sequence01:57
tgm4883_laptopruh roh01:57
tgm4883_laptophmm01:57
avihaybthe welcome log is empty01:57
tgm4883_laptoplook in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log and see what it says01:58
tgm4883_laptopor rather01:58
tgm4883_laptoptail /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log01:58
avihaybtails is a command/utility program?01:58
avihayb*tail01:58
tgm4883_laptopyes01:58
tgm4883_laptopcommand line01:58
tgm4883_laptoppastebin the output01:59
avihaybit's on another system02:01
avihayb_tvok,here we go02:03
avihayb_tvtv@tv:~$ tail /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log02:03
avihayb_tv2008-06-02 03:26:13.284 SG(LiveTV) Error: Group 'LiveTV' wants to use directory '/home/tv/Desktop/', but this directory is not writeable.02:03
avihayb_tvQDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range02:03
avihayb_tv2008-06-02 03:27:22.383 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Monitor02:03
avihayb_tv2008-06-02 03:27:22.389 adding: tv as a client (events: 0)02:03
avihayb_tvok, note to self- mass pasteing=disconection...02:04
tgm4883_laptopyea don't do that02:04
tgm4883_laptopuse pastebin02:04
avihayb_tva hubawa?02:05
avihayb_tv!8ball02:05
tgm4883_laptopgoogle pastebin02:05
tgm4883_laptopalso02:05
tgm4883_laptopdid you run mythtv-setup?02:05
avihayb_tvnot after reinstalation, no02:05
tgm4883_laptopcause this right here02:05
tgm4883_laptop2008-06-02 03:26:13.284 SG(LiveTV) Error: Group 'LiveTV' wants to use directory '/home/tv/Desktop/', but this directory is not writeable.02:05
tgm4883_laptopis a problem02:05
avihayb_tvok02:07
avihayb_tvtime to run mythTV-setup? or have another look at that fancy MCC?02:07
tgm4883_laptopmythtv-setup02:08
avihayb_tvmkey02:08
tgm4883_laptopfind out where you want your recordings to go first though02:08
avihayb_tvdedicated computer more or less, where would you put it?02:08
tgm4883_laptophow many hard drives do you have in there?02:09
avihayb_tverm a tiny 20Gb but thta might changw when the proof of concept actualy works02:09
tgm4883_laptopok02:09
tgm4883_laptopis the 20GB partitioned?02:09
avihayb_tvonly swap02:10
tgm4883_laptopok02:10
tgm4883_laptopthis is how I would do it then02:10
tgm4883_laptopso you have a swap partition02:10
tgm4883_laptopand a / partition02:10
tgm4883_laptopThis is how mine is setup02:10
avihayb_tvin the futer I'd probebly mount home on the bigger hdd yet to come02:10
tgm4883_laptopmy recordings go into02:10
tgm4883_laptop /mythtv/recordings/ovit500/02:10
tgm4883_laptopovit is the name of my backend02:10
tgm4883_laptop500 is the size of the drive02:11
tgm4883_laptopthat way if I add another hard drive02:11
tgm4883_laptopI will mount that drive at02:11
tgm4883_laptop /mythtv/recordings/ovit1000/02:11
tgm4883_laptop^^ if I added a terabyte drive02:11
tgm4883_laptopbut i always keep the /mythtv/recordings/hostnamesize/ scheme02:12
tgm4883_laptopso for you02:12
tgm4883_laptopI would do02:12
avihayb_tvmkey, I'm game02:12
tgm4883_laptop /mythtv/recordings/hostname20/02:12
avihayb_tvI need to create that folder beforehand?02:12
tgm4883_laptopyes02:12
tgm4883_laptopyou need to create /mythtv02:12
tgm4883_laptopi'm not sure you can create it all in one command, but after you get them all created you need to set permissions02:13
tgm4883_laptopchmod 775 /mythtv/recordings/hostname20/02:13
tgm4883_laptopthen02:13
tgm4883_laptopchown mythtv:mythtv /mythtv/recordings/hostname20/02:13
tgm4883_laptopthen bust open mythtv-setup, make that your recording directory02:14
avihayb_tvno -r option?02:15
tgm4883_laptopwell you only need the actual directory that is the recording dir to have mythtv ownership02:16
tgm4883_laptopbut I suppose you could do that02:16
avihayb_tvok, it's set, more or less02:18
avihayb_tvtgm4883_laptop:  is it mythtv-setup time?02:20
tgm4883_laptopyes02:20
tgm4883_laptopgo into mythtv-setup and go through each step02:21
avihayb_tvkilling the backend02:21
avihayb_tvoww, preaty gui!02:22
avihayb_tv1.general02:22
avihayb_tvlocal settings are set02:23
defendguinwow i gotta admit 8.04 is awesome02:23
avihayb_tvmisc settings: master backend override marked folow symbolic links marked, slow delete marked02:24
defendguineasiest setup i've had in forever   maybe its because i've done it before 8 or so times but its still great stuff02:24
avihayb_tvtgm4883_laptop: change what I know, don't touch what I don't understand?02:25
avihayb_tvso, I'm guessing that it didn't throw you to ash like it did me?02:25
avihayb_tvon card type, I chose MPEG-2 encoder card (pvrx50... right?02:27
avihayb_tvtgm4883_laptop: I'm lost in the connect sourc to input part02:29
avihayb_tvsource02:30
avihayb_tvyelp02:33
avihayb_tvdefendguin: still there?02:34
defendguinyeah02:34
avihayb_tvmind helping me out?02:34
avihayb_tvsingle computer runing xubuntu 8.04 connected via a vga cable to LCD screen, being, hopefully, bouth front and back end02:36
tgm4883_laptopsorry, was writing a paper02:36
avihayb_tvdefendguin: you can say no02:36
defendguinbetter say my name when you want to ask something  i'm frequently away from this pc02:37
tgm4883_laptopyea that the right setting for the pvr cards02:37
avihayb_tvok, the video source, I'me setting on no gruber02:38
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, where do you live?02:38
avihayb_tvin Israel02:38
tgm4883_laptopah02:38
avihayb_tvyeh02:38
tgm4883_laptopno grabber it is then02:38
avihayb_tvI found someone who wrote a graber program to that xml program thingy02:38
avihayb_tv*err format02:39
avihayb_tvok, I was "scaning" for channles, and the setup program crashed02:41
tgm4883_laptopwhere do you get your channels from?  OTA, cable, satellite, something else?02:41
avihayb_tvon another matter, I selected israel-cable-matav02:41
avihayb_tvI intend to use a digital reciver conected to the composit, and an IR blaster02:42
avihayb_tvtime to say I have the "full" MCE package with the card02:42
avihayb_tvas in the media center remote ir reciver and "blaster"02:43
tgm4883_laptopok, but how is the cable hooked up to the mythtv box right now?02:43
avihayb_tvthru the composit02:43
tgm4883_laptopok02:43
tgm4883_laptopyour not going to be able to scan for channels then02:44
tgm4883_laptopand unfortunatly this is probably where my help will have to end02:44
avihayb_tvoh, well, no magic02:44
avihayb_tvtime issues?02:44
tgm4883_laptopas I'm not sure exactly how you would get your channels into the databse02:44
tgm4883_laptopprobably from that grabber program you talked about02:45
tgm4883_laptopbut i'm not entirely sure myself02:45
avihayb_tvwell, I'll burn that brige when I get there, I'd settel for one channle for the moment02:45
avihayb_tvit's so late, that it's early here in israel02:46
tgm4883_laptopeh, it's not even 7pm here02:46
avihayb_tvlook at the local timestamp:02:46
avihayb_tv(04:46:01) avihayb_tv: it's so late, that it's early here in israel02:46
tgm4883_laptoplucky me ;)02:46
tgm4883_laptopyea that is early02:46
avihayb_tvwell, I'm guessing I'm runing the setup program again02:47
tgm4883_laptopyea02:47
tgm4883_laptopmost of it should have already saved02:47
tgm4883_laptopgo back into the step you were just in02:47
tgm4883_laptopbut dont scan this time02:47
avihayb_tvwell, shuld I put stuff in "external channle changer command, and preset tuner to channle?02:49
avihayb_tv*channel02:49
tgm4883_laptopdo you have an external channel change script?02:49
avihayb_tvnot yet... so I'm guessing that that's my answer02:49
avihayb_tvdo I need to create an input group?02:50
tgm4883_laptopan input group?02:50
rhhI've got some problems with the mythweb .asx links - specifically, I can't skip around in the file.  Has this problem been fixed?02:50
avihayb_tvin Interaction between inputs02:51
tgm4883_laptopumm02:51
tgm4883_laptopI don't think so02:51
avihayb_tvoh, ok, only for more then one recorder device02:51
tgm4883_laptoprhh, isn't it that way by design?02:51
rhhtgm4883_laptop:  well, I'd sure like to be able to "fast forward" through commercials and such02:52
avihayb_tvI think I should skip the channle editor for now, right?02:52
rhhand I used to be able to with the "myth://" links02:52
tgm4883_laptopavihayb_tv, yes02:52
tgm4883_laptopthen make the default storage group the directory we setup earlier02:53
avihayb_tvyhe, that was "aimed" at the desktop, I changed that...   do I need a "DB Backups" group?02:54
tgm4883_laptopreally making my brain work today ;)02:55
tgm4883_laptopnot right now02:55
avihayb_tv:->02:55
avihayb_tvok, I'm escaping out of the setup program02:55
avihayb_tvtgm4883_laptop: the damn thing says:02:58
avihayb_tv/mythtv/recordings/tv20//.test - directory is not writeable ...02:58
tgm4883_laptopok02:59
tgm4883_laptopgo to a terminal02:59
tgm4883_laptopand post the output of02:59
tgm4883_laptopls -l /mythtv/recordings/tv2002:59
avihayb_tvtotal 003:00
avihayb_tvI forgot to chmod 775 recordings/03:00
tgm4883_laptophmm03:00
tgm4883_laptopsec03:00
avihayb_tvand tv20... :-<03:00
tgm4883_laptopdo03:01
avihayb_tvdone03:01
tgm4883_laptopls -l /mythtv/recordings03:01
avihayb_tvdrwxrwxr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2008-06-02 05:01 tv2003:02
tgm4883_laptopok that looks right03:02
tgm4883_laptoptry exiting mythtv-setup again03:02
avihayb_tvok, he now complains about not setting a deafult channle03:02
avihayb_tvI' telling him to ignore03:02
tgm4883_laptopok03:02
tgm4883_laptopyea that might cause an issue, we'll find out03:03
tgm4883_laptopdid you set up the tuner to use composite?03:03
avihayb_tvyes03:03
tgm4883_laptopk03:03
avihayb_tvok, mythfilldatabase did it's thing03:03
avihayb_tvnow, is it time to cross fingers and run the frontend?03:04
tgm4883_laptopyea03:04
avihayb_tvbtw, I belive that mysqld_safe either stops hogging, or terminates while in setup, if it's of any segnifigence to you03:05
avihayb_tvok, it did it03:06
tgm4883_laptopit works?03:07
avihayb_tvyes! I'm reciveing a 1 min delayed feed03:08
tgm4883_laptop1 minute?03:08
tgm4883_laptopThats way too long03:08
avihayb_tvI think what I did wrong last time, was failing to link the composit input with mythtv03:08
tgm4883_laptopis mysqld_safe still hogging?03:09
avihayb_tvremember that my CPU is loaded by that deamon, and my computer is probebly using the full lenght of the ringbuffer03:09
avihayb_tvyhe, the damn thing is still there03:10
tgm4883_laptopi'd let it sit for awhile and catch some sleep03:10
tgm4883_laptopperhaps its runnin and trying to do something important03:10
tgm4883_laptopwhat is your cpu and ram like?03:10
tgm4883_laptopie, how much and how fast03:10
avihayb_tvit's a p4 1.6, I have two SDRAm chips, I think one is 100MHZ and the other 133MHZ, but then again, by the age of the motherboard, they are probebly bouth limited by a 100MHZ bus03:12
avihayb_tv1.6->1.gGHZ03:12
avihayb_tvchips->sticks03:13
tgm4883_laptophow much ram?03:13
avihayb_tvwell, now that i'm thinking bout it, it has two DDR slots on it03:13
avihayb_tv256MB03:14
tgm4883_laptophmm ok03:14
tgm4883_laptopmight be enough03:14
tgm4883_laptoprams kinda low03:14
avihayb_tvIt's supposed to be overspec for a card with mpeg-2 decoder/encoder03:14
tgm4883_laptoplet mysql do it's think for awhile03:14
tgm4883_laptopyea i'm just wondering if mysql is doing a lot of swapimg03:14
avihayb_tvwell, my swap file has half a G empty03:15
tgm4883_laptopright03:15
tgm4883_laptopbut your ram03:15
tgm4883_laptopit's swaping to disk03:15
tgm4883_laptopfrom ram03:15
avihayb_tvmem has 4M free, and there is the ocasional blinking red light from the HDD...03:16
avihayb_tvtime to kill FF...03:16
avihayb_tvgot some memory, and then lost it again03:18
avihayb_tvbut mythfrontend is an even bigger res hog then the deamon03:19
tgm4883_laptopyea mythfrontend takes some resources03:19
tgm4883_laptopwhat video card do you have?03:19
avihayb_tv14958 tv        20   0  203m  67m  35m S 43.1 27.2   5:39.15 mythfrontend.re03:19
avihayb_tv 7529 root      20   0  1772  464  440 R 26.2  0.2  71:15.69 mysqld_safe03:19
avihayb_tv 5297 root      20   0 98128  53m  24m S 19.2 21.5  19:43.81 Xorg03:19
avihayb_tvtgm4883_laptop: oh, well, it's an ol'e ATI rage LT. don't ask me where I dug it up from, cuz I ai'nt telling03:20
avihayb_tvit has a TV out03:21
tgm4883_laptopits probably a combination of a few things03:23
tgm4883_laptopwhich theme are you using?03:23
tgm4883_laptopI think gant is lighter on resoures03:23
avihayb_tvI'll check03:24
avihayb_tvvlc doing the same stuff only cost me 30%cpu vlc + 10 xorg03:24
avihayb_tv10-10%03:24
avihayb_tvoh, what do you know, the UI has hebrew translation03:27
avihayb_tvit's useing qt and not openGL, is that ok?03:28
avihayb_tvwell, I timed the delay at 10 sec03:29
tgm4883_laptop10 seconds is a little long, but it's ok03:30
avihayb_tvyhe, but the frontend is taking way to much for something that ain't doing nothing03:32
avihayb_tvtgm4883_laptop: do you have any Idea as to how to debug this?03:35
tgm4883_laptopnot really03:37
tgm4883_laptopthere might be a lighter theme you can use03:37
avihayb_tvI don't think it's the theam, beacuse I don't see any gui while watching, unless you mean that the extra room the gui is takeing is too much, or in other words, I just need more ram?03:39
avihayb_tvI can do with VLC what I can do with mythTV rightnow, and still have half a cpu to myself03:40
tgm4883_laptopi do think it's a ram issue03:41
avihayb_tvI also have some hickups03:41
avihayb_tvlooks like they are caused by video compression03:41
avihayb_tvwell, I'll see what I can do about ram03:42
avihayb_tvbahh, bad timeing, my more computer oriented freinds left for a three month trip to mexico03:43
avihayb_tvnowhere to borrow ram... have to take it out of my PC03:43
avihayb_tvoh, rhiana is out with a new cd?03:44
avihayb_tvthink that there's any chance that installing xubuntu from a new 8.04 disk insted of a 7.10  disk will help in any twisted unforseen way?03:46
avihayb_tvoh, helo pcglue03:46
tgm4883_laptopit might, there is a slight change that the uprade hurt us03:48
avihaybbtw, how do I stop the backend?03:50
avihaybnow point chewing up my HDD03:50
tgm4883_laptop/etc/init.d/mythbackend stop03:53
avihaybtgm4883_laptop:  holy cow, the damn thing has been recorfing ever since I started it03:55
avihayb*recording03:55
tgm4883_laptopinteresting03:55
tgm4883_laptopwere you in live tv?03:55
Xenocidehey guys quick question, my mythbox is sitting in my condo all summer while im away, i still need it for server stuff, but how can i force mythtv to not record? disable the service or something03:56
sardiskanforce it to not record?03:56
Xenocidehow?03:57
sardiskanjust delete all recordings03:57
Xenociderecordings...it would still record new ones03:57
Xenocidei want to leave my schedules intact and such03:57
sardiskanhmm03:57
avihaybyes, I have 23 min of MTV recordings03:57
sardiskanif you are using the box for "server stuff", then just kill the backend and frontend03:58
* avihayb is stealing copyrighted music...03:58
sardiskanhaha03:58
Xenocideit could get rebooted03:58
Xenocidei could just remove it from the rc.d right?03:58
sardiskanremove the services from the startup config03:58
avihaybI wish I could tell when the thing is recording03:59
sardiskanyou can...from mythweb03:59
sardiskanor from the recordings manager03:59
Xenocidewell shit i only have ssh access03:59
Xenocidelol03:59
sardiskanopen port 80 on your firewall03:59
avihayb_tvwell, mysql is only taking 26% CPU04:00
avihayb_tvthat's good news04:00
Xenocidei only have ssh access04:00
Xenocideim not there.04:00
sardiskanI need to know how to burn things I've recorded to DVD04:00
sardiskanhmm04:00
avihayb_tvand I have only 60% cpu usage04:00
sardiskanhang on04:00
pcgluetgm4883_laptop, audio is OK when I changed to using the coax input on my pvr-350!04:05
sardiskanI know04:06
avihayb_tvok, have to split04:06
sardiskando you have a linux box?04:06
sardiskanXenocide?04:07
Xenocideyes i do04:08
sardiskangreat...you can easily pull up the mythweb with just SSH access04:08
sardiskanssh into the box with the -X option04:08
sardiskanlike so04:08
sardiskanssh -X server.domain.com04:08
superm1update-rc.d can be used to remove services like myth04:09
sardiskanor ssh -X username@server.04:09
Xenocideyea i was just gonna use update rc04:09
Xenocidelol04:09
Xenocidei found that a few min ago04:09
superm1update-rc.d -f mythtv-backend remove04:09
superm1that would do the trick04:09
Xenocidehow you doing super, haven' tseen you on aim lately ;)04:09
sardiskananyway...once you are SSH'd into the server with the xserver option, you can actually push the firefox web browser running on the mythbox to your xwindows session. Then you could browse to the IP of the local machine...or probably just localhost.04:10
avihaybkilling the backend dosn't stop the mysql deamon...04:10
sardiskanhttp://localhost/mythweb/04:10
Xenocideyea i don't have enough bandwidth for that shit haha04:10
Xenocidedon't matter if mysql runs04:11
Xenocidei just don't want it recording04:11
defendguini'm having a bit of an issue with dvd playback on my new 8.04 box04:11
Xenocidei already have a month of blank stuff sitting there04:11
sardiskananyone know the trick to burning DVD's of shows? mine just doesn't do anything04:11
defendguintried to play one with mplayer from the normal desktop and i just got a lot of crappy audio and a message about pulse not working04:12
sardiskanthat's usually a problem with your xorg config04:12
sardiskanhad a similar problem04:13
sardiskanhad to add the xorg options specific to my video card.04:13
superm1Xenocide, eh i been busy04:16
superm1i dont get on aim gtalk or skype much of lately04:16
defendguinhmmm04:16
defendguinits a nvidia card04:16
defendguinthis one has been around long enough not to have config issues04:17
defendguinhmmm says too many video packets in the buffer04:18
defendguinheh   when i updated it disabled the nvidia driver for my card  so i was using the nv driver instead04:21
sardiskannice04:26
sardiskananyone have clues on burning a DVD.04:26
sardiskanMine doesns't appear to do anything when I try to burn a video04:26
defendguinhmmmm   got that fixed but there is still something wrong with the video04:26
defendguini have tried all the video output modes in mplayer04:32
defendguinanyone know when when i press volume down and the little volume indicator goes down but the volume doesn't change ?08:25
defendguinwhile in mythtv that is08:25
defendguinfreaking annoying08:41
Davieydefendguin: hmm08:45
Davieynot come across that myself... but using "sudo alsamixer", does that work to adjust the volume08:46
Daviey(not a solution, but to test)08:46
defendguinone moment08:47
defendguinit seems to be up around 80   when in mythtv i probably have the volume set to about 6008:49
Davieyi don't think there is fixed correlation between mythfrontend volume % and the real thing08:50
defendguinheh08:50
Davieythere might be.. tho08:50
defendguinso i'm in to the mythtv front end watching tv and i have a ssh terminal open with alsamixer08:50
defendguinwhat do you want me to do08:51
defendguinDaviey: ok here is something   i lowered the volume inside of mythtv to about 14%08:54
defendguinwent out of watch tv mode then went back in and it was up to 100%08:54
defendguinobviously when i lowered to to 14% originally it made no audible difference08:55
Daviey!08:56
defendguinadjusting the alsa mixer does work08:56
Davieydefendguin: i'd be inclined to hit the mythtv-users mailing list tbh08:57
defendguini'm more inclined to hit my bed at the moment08:57
Davieyif mythfrontend IS making changes to the correct device, but it's not working08:57
Davieydefendguin: it's 9AM - wake up time08:57
defendguinDaviey: i doubt its making changes to the correct device08:57
defendguincertainly the device it not changing and those changes are not being made08:58
defendguinis there even a way to adjust the audio output method?08:58
defendguinesd pulse alsa etc .....08:59
Davieyyeah08:59
defendguinwhere?08:59
Davieyi knew you'd ask that..08:59
Davieyone mo08:59
defendguini was looking for one but i couldn't find it08:59
defendguini figured it had to be a frontend setting09:00
Davieysettings -> General -> a few pages in09:00
defendguinin the front end settings right?09:01
defendguinahhh much better09:03
defendguinfor whatever reason it was set to /dev/mixer   not alsa09:04
defendguindunno how that happened09:04
defendguini wonder why dev mixer is even an option09:05
lagait should be set to the correct mixer by default09:06
lagaodd09:06
defendguinwell i set it to the master channel in alsa09:06
defendguinanyone know how totem on my normal hardy desktop is supposed to find the recordings on the mythtv box?09:09
defendguinit doesn't seem to be able to find anything and i don't know of any way to configure the plugin09:10
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tsjHey :)10:18
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avihaybtgm4883_laptop: after a reboot, the mysqld_safe dosn't run anymore, insted, now I have mysqld runing, and it dosn't overload the system13:57
avihaybhowever, mythTV is always recording13:58
avihaybother effect I now have is mythTV streching the 4:3 image to be 16:914:03
avihayband I can't seem to find anything to control that14:03
kirklandsuperm1: thanks for the powerpc fixes; i'm traveling this week, but will test them as soon as I'm back home (a week from today)15:05
superm1kirkland, no prob.  those binaries are for intrepid, so i'll have to file a formal backport for hardy yet15:06
superm1or you'll have to pass them on to your own sbuild/pbuilder for now15:06
kirklandsuperm1: sure, that's what I was going to do15:06
superm1there are a lot of other nagging issues in the current hardy build, so would like to have the backport sooner rather than later too :)15:07
lagasuperm1: what about 8.04.1? these wont be built from -backports?15:09
superm1bah.15:16
superm1we'll make it happen15:16
superm1i dont want to fight making an SRU just for building that disk15:16
lagasuperm1: enabling -backports will cause bitching when 0.22 is pushed to hardy15:20
superm1yeah i'm saying turning it on "just" during build time15:26
sardiskananyone know what the trick is to burning a show to DVD?15:34
sardiskanbecause mine just doesn't work.15:34
sardiskanI go in to create the DVD...and the log viewer shows NOTHING.15:34
avihaybtgm4883:16:23
avihaybafter a reboot, the mysqld_safe dosn't run anymore, insted, now I have mysqld runing, and it dosn't overload the system16:23
avihayb[15:58] <avihayb> however, mythTV is always recording16:23
avihayb[16:03] <avihayb> other effect I now have is mythTV streching the 4:3 image to be 16:916:23
avihayb[16:03] <avihayb> and I can't seem to find anything to control that16:23
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, you can set your screen aspect ratio in the frontend appearance settings (where you select your theme)16:35
tgm4883_laptopavihayb, You can also set the resolution your recordings are in in recordings profiles.   You will want to set this to whatever you are grabbing from your satellite box16:37
sardiskanis there a problem with mytharchive?16:38
sardiskanmine doesn't work at all16:38
tgm4883_laptopgotta run now, but check those two things out16:38
frank23running mythtv 0.21 in gutsy from backports. I can't import DVDs.17:05
frank23It says that the mythtranscode daemon is not started and I can't start it.17:06
frank23Is ripping DVDs supposed to work in gutsy with mythtv 0.21?17:07
Davieyyes, do you have libdvdcss installed?17:11
Daviey(option in the control centre)17:11
avihaybtgm4883: tgm4883_laptop: thanks17:13
frank23Daviey: yeah libdvdcss is installed17:14
Davieyhmm17:15
* sardiskan sobs17:16
sardiskanI can't get my stupid mytharchive working...someone help17:16
sardiskanthe "log viewer" doesn't show any information17:16
frank23I can play dvds fine in myth17:17
sabhainfrank23 have you pressed "0" to try starting the transcode daemon17:23
jphillipfrank23 some dvd's are hard to rip17:28
jphillipuse dd_rescue on them, works like a charm17:28
frank23sabhain: jphillip: I had to specify the right path for temporary files17:45
sabhainglad to hear you got it working17:48
jphillipfrank23 ah ya, still if you hit any AArcOS discs, or any problem ones check out dd_rescue17:55
avihaybtgm4883: tgm4883_laptop: well, I did it, sorta, now I see my 4:3 input on a 4:3 input while the gui is still fullscreen, however, I get the fealing that I'll have to change that setting every time I try to watch a non-4:3 movie17:59
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avihaybtgm4883: tgm4883_laptop: my tv has a neat solution for that problem(when not forced into 16:9 by a computer display adapter. it has a button that switches between auto detect, full screen (strech), 4:3, 14:9 (clips albit from the top but dosn't hurt the aspect ratio),cinema (clips from the top and butom, dose a purfect job when the station is playing a 16:9 movie on a 4:3 display), and subtitles mode (same as cinema, only more18:21
avihaybclipping from the top and less from the buttom).18:21
avihaybtgm4883: tgm4883_laptop: I think that that should be a feature in mythTV. I can make a detaild presentation if you like18:22
ixionhi, i just bought a media centre remote+USB dongle (Aim - IR603 is the receiver) - when I plugged it in it showed up in lsusb as Formosa Industrial Computing, Inc. - when looking at the c code for mceusb2 driver the vendor id exists and Formosa is the vendor, so I presume this device is supported by the mceusb2 driver19:20
ixionI installed lirc and selected mceusb2 from the list19:21
ixionwhat I dont know is how to make sure its actually working19:21
ixionwithin mythtv it does do anything19:21
ixiondoesn't19:23
jphillipixion see anything if you run irw and press buttons?19:31
ixionjphillip, if I run irw it just spits me back to terminal - if I try again I get can't connect - then I have to start lircd again19:31
ixionso irw is crashing lircd19:31
sardiskanddgoose...r u around?20:04
killazhi which Video driver is the best option to choose for my EN8500GT card during the installation?21:09
iamlindoro__killaz, NVidia proprietary21:11
jphillipnvidia-new I do thing21:13
jphillipthink21:13
killaz I don't have a DVI to HDMI converter yet. SO21:14
killazdoes it mater if I installed the card no wusing the VGA output and then afterwards try to use the DVI output?21:14
meatballHello there, sorry for the dumb question, I just bought a philips SRM 7500 remote, and i was wondering if there were any good guides to getting it set up, or if it works at all with Mythbuntu?22:40

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