[00:02] <poopuser> hey it's me handjob.well u sir r my saviour and i would like to give birth to your children...to bad i am man thou i would like to thrad u a coffe or beer.whare do u live?
[00:03] <poopuser> ps everything works like charm
[00:03] <poopuser> *charm
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> poopuser: we are not done yet...
[00:04] <poopuser> ; O
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> i just change the video driver to a fall back (vesa). we need to find out why your ati driver is not working...
[00:05] <poopuser> i am simple mided but i think it may be related to chosing wrong resolution
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> poopuser: what card do you have?
[00:06] <poopuser> excalibur 9200
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> poopuser: does "lscpi | grep VGA" give you any output?
[00:08] <poopuser> now i can tell that 'copy' option is XXXXXX amazing brb imput
[00:09] <poopuser> command not found?
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> ooops
[00:09] <poopuser> ; )
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> lspci | grep VGA
[00:09] <poopuser> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> poopuser: try going to applications --> system --> restricted drivers manager
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> poopuser: is there an option to install any restricted drivers?
[00:15] <poopuser> thout as u may(lol)notice english is not my native language i don't think i do posses application
[00:15] <poopuser> system>
[00:15] <poopuser> ?
[00:15] <poopuser> accesories?
[00:16] <poopuser> settings>
[00:16] <poopuser> >
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> poopuser: you are on xubuntu?
[00:16] <poopuser> yes!
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> poopuser: you don't have aplications --> system ?
[00:18] <poopuser> system > drivers managment (my translation)
[00:19] <Odd-rationale> poopuser: yes. try that onw
[00:19] <Odd-rationale> one
[00:20] <Odd-rationale> does it tell you that you have no restricted drivers to install?
[00:20] <Odd-rationale> or can you check a chechbox to install some restricted drivers?
[00:20] <poopuser> sry 'lost in translation' it's managment of....how to put it...non comercial drivers
[00:20] <poopuser> and it says i dont need any
[00:21] <poopuser> checkbox?
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> too bad. mabye there isn't a driver available for you card yet...
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> is using vesa ok with you?
[00:21] <poopuser> l D
[00:22] <poopuser> it's better then b4-i am afraid of dark ; D
[00:22] <poopuser> well one way or another i am rally greatefull for your time
[00:22] <Odd-rationale> ok. you wont be able to do any compositing or fancy stuff though...
[00:23] <poopuser> well i won't leave it this way and propobly xxxx up some more things just to come back here and whine 4 help
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> no problem.
[00:25] <poopuser> but u give me new hope as a part of linux community.i shall never forget it~
[00:25] <poopuser> btw i was serious when i told i will threat u a beer
[00:25] <poopuser> where do u live?
[00:26] <Odd-rationale> heh, that was actually an easy one. we didn't really fix it. we just side-stepped it...
[00:26] <poopuser> dont be shine or maybe u don't like beer ? ;D
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> i'm actually < 21 ...
[00:28] <poopuser> wow accualy younger then me (23) wow that was a blow
[00:28] <poopuser> so old so stupid l D
[00:30] <poopuser> so...i guess we will se ech other again
[00:30] <poopuser> bye thx again
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> ok. see ya!
[00:31] <poopuser> it's time for nano xorg.conf! fuck yea\!!!!!]
[00:33] <Odd-rationale> you know, it is kind of nice to help out in a chennel this size. #ubuntu ... toooo many people...
[00:48] <handjob> welcome back...
[00:49] <handjob> Odd stop hiding i can here u breathing : D
[00:52] <handjob> Odd sry for wasting your time.i got back to 'ati' in xorg.conf and set 800x600 res.i don't have to say it way bad idead?then i got back to 'vesa' thou still my desktop look like jackson's pollock art
[00:52] <Odd-rationale>  
[00:53] <tgm4883_laptop> In Xubuntu 8.04, do apturl apps not work in Firefox?  ie, is the apturl package not installed by default?
[00:53] <Odd-rationale> remember we made a back up your xorg.conf file? restore it (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and replace ati with vesa
[00:54] <handjob> ...i was thinking the same thing... (not really ; D)
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> tgm4883_laptop: i'm not too familiar with apturl... search synaptics and see if you need to install an apturl package... or it could just be ff3...
[00:55] <tgm4883_laptop> heh, it's not my installation.  i'm trying to help a user and he can't install from this apturl link on this page http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[00:55] <tgm4883_laptop> is FF3 default in Xubuntu 8.04
[00:55] <Odd-rationale> tgm4883_laptop: yes. ff3 is defualt in hardy
[00:56] <Odd-rationale> tgm4883_laptop: open synaptics instead. and to to packages --> mark packages by tasks
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, interesting.  For some reason he is running ff2.  He upgraded from 7.10, any known bugs doing that?
[00:56] <Odd-rationale> tgm4883_laptop: you should be able to find the mythbuntu task there...
[00:56] <Odd-rationale> tgm4883_laptop: not any bugs that i know of...
[00:57] <tgm4883_laptop> yea I know, I got him to install it via apt.  Was just wondering if other xubuntu users are going to have this same problem
[00:57] <tgm4883_laptop> he seems to be having a few other issues as well, such as he lost all his file associations.  But thats not really my area of help
[00:58] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks though for the help
[00:59] <handjob> shit desctop still looks like pizza.any idea whare res settings may be stored exept xorg,conf?
[01:00] <Odd-rationale> handjob: pastebinit your xorg file again: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit"
[01:00] <handjob> <3
[01:02] <handjob> paste.stgraber.org/5112
[01:06] <Odd-rationale> handjob: i can't find anything wrong...
[01:06] <Odd-rationale> handjob: maybe reboot? (last resort...)
[01:07] <handjob> yes!lest reboot
[01:07] <handjob> brb
[01:07] <Tipper> Do you think my computer will fuck up if I install every game from the add/remove applications thing?
[01:07] <Odd-rationale> Tipper: well, it shouldn't...
[01:08] <Odd-rationale> Tipper: but why would you want to do that?
[01:08] <Odd-rationale> ;)
[01:08] <Tipper> :p
[01:08] <Odd-rationale> imagine how long that would take to download...
[01:09] <Tipper> not long
[01:09] <Tipper> for me it's taken 2 hours
[01:09] <Tipper> 1 remaning
[01:10] <Odd-rationale> well, here's a live dvd with the some top native linux games. just boot'n play: http://live.linux-gamers.net/
[01:11] <handjob> no go.in difference from my strting point (black screen) now it just looks like bad suited res,
[01:13] <handjob> why can i start up config programs(those that i used to xxxx up thigs again) from fail safe?also can i chose only one res by editing xorg.conf?
[01:13] <handjob> *can't
[01:14] <Odd-rationale> handjob: yes you can choose only one resolution
[01:14] <Odd-rationale> handjob: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:14] <peterajamesh> Is there a way to get a mounted slave drive, in my case media/slave, to show in the thunar files manager as a "mounted" drive along "file system Drive"
[01:15] <handjob> nano fstab
[01:15] <handjob> not really i am only trying to look cool l D
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> peterajamesh: try adding it to your /etc/fstab file
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> man fstab for details...
[01:15] <peterajamesh> I did
[01:15] <Tipper> there are 1720 games
[01:15] <Tipper> :DDDD
[01:16] <Odd-rationale> Tipper: wow, you must be so,e gamer...
[01:16] <Tipper> nah I just am venturing over to hawaii then mermaryland then japan this sum
[01:16] <Tipper> maryland* summer*
[01:16] <Tipper> and the planes are really shitty and don't have wireless
[01:18] <peterajamesh> it mounted if I go to madia/slave I can access the salve drive, I want see if i can get the slave HD to show in file manager just external drive would
[01:18] <handjob> Odd can u spell that command once more but with double spaces?
[01:19] <Odd-rationale> handjob: double spaces?
[01:19] <Odd-rationale> handjob: try this: sudo  dpkg-reconfigure  -phigh  xserver-xorg
[01:19] <handjob> tu
[01:20] <handjob> so it made backup of xorg,conf.longnumbers
[01:22] <Odd-rationale> handjob: pastebinit your new one please...
[01:22] <handjob> kk
[01:22] <Odd-rationale> handjob: your lastest one that is. the one current in xorg.conf
[01:24] <handjob> thx god i thought i would have to type all that numbers.just a sce
[01:26] <handjob> pase.stgraber.org/5113
[01:26] <handjob> paste.stgraber.org/5113
[01:29] <Odd-rationale> handjob: ok. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf again and change the driver to vesa and set your resolution lower again...
[01:30] <handjob> deja vu!
[01:30] <Odd-rationale> then save the file
[01:30] <Odd-rationale> and restart X (ctrl+alt+bksp)
[01:31] <handjob> i am shocked that u do this stuff for no $
[01:31] <handjob> ; )
[01:32] <Tipper> half way done ith downloading the games
[01:33] <Odd-rationale> Tipper: i think you are insane... ;)
[01:33] <Tipper> orly?
[01:33] <Tipper> It took me 30 minutes to select them all :P
[01:33] <Tipper> I'm downloading them onto my new TB drive
[01:34] <Odd-rationale> ooooh, a terabyte...
[01:34] <Odd-rationale> handjob: no good?
[01:34] <handjob> did't work.i wont take more of your time.smoking a cig and going 2 sleep.thx 4 anything
[01:34] <Odd-rationale> handjob: ok. sorry, i could help more...
[01:35] <Tipper> My schools server has 200tbs o.O
[01:35] <Tipper> and half of it are used
[01:35] <handjob> np.i thing tomorow i will install arch.hope they got good irc support l D
[01:36] <Odd-rationale> heh, i am in the arch irc support...
[02:14] <lc2> ohai
[02:14] <lc2> is there an easy way to restart X?
[02:16] <lc2> i've done horrible things to my xorg.conf and i hate rebooting each time i try and fix it
[02:16] <Tipper> hmm
[02:16] <Tipper> idk :P
[02:17] <Tipper> what the hell is wrong with me download speed?
[02:17] <Tipper> I'm hopping from 200bps to 5mbs
[02:19] <lc2> the fuck are you doing here Tipper
[02:20] <Tipper> ?
[02:20] <lc2> i thought this was the other channel for a sec when i saw you talking
[02:20] <lc2> anyway, what the hell, something's horribly wrong with my xorg.conf
[02:22] <lc2> what's more, i can't figure out where the error is occurring, because i don't know where the errors go to
[02:26] <lc2> okay, /var/log/Xorg.0.log*
[02:26] <lc2> which shows nothing of interest
[02:27] <lc2> well, reboot, lawl
[02:37] <Odd-rationale> lc2: the easy way to restart x is ctrl+alt+blsp
[02:39] <lc2> yeah, but i found that didn't really restart it
[02:39] <lc2> in that it didn't die all over again reading my xorg.conf
[02:39] <lc2> hate hate hate
[02:40] <lc2> as it happens it was about xorg not liking the DisableEdid option
[02:40] <lc2> (or any Option at all in that part of the config file)
[02:42] <lc2> wee
[02:47]  * lc2 is stuck in 1152x864 at 60hz, but can live with that for now
[03:56] <n-iCe> hello, what's the command to see whois on active?
[04:01] <zoredache> pardon?
[04:03] <n-iCe> to show the whois on active
[04:06] <zoredache> active on what
[04:07] <n-iCe> to see the whois on main
[04:07] <n-iCe> on the active window
[04:07] <n-iCe> something like /Set whois_on_active
[04:08] <zoredache> n-iCe: I can't read your mind.  You are going to be more specific
[04:08] <n-iCe> nevermind
[04:08] <n-iCe> hello, what's the command to see whois on active?
[10:17] <jk4> hello, do you think it's possible to make xubuntu lock screen when suspending?
[10:20] <jk4> (would be great if that would be possible without messing with /etc/acpi)
[10:24] <TheSheep> I think it already does
[10:24] <ablomen> you have to install the screen locking app first though
[10:24] <ablomen> for some reason it isnt installed by default
[10:25] <jk4> ablomen: which app?
[10:25] <ablomen> xlockmore
[10:25] <jk4> ablomen: xflock4 works for me, but it doesn't seem to fire up when doing suspend
[10:25] <jk4> ablomen: ok, I'll check it
[10:26] <ablomen> oh ok
[10:26] <ablomen> well if it really doesnt do it i guess you have to make a **-lock-screen.sh
[10:26] <ablomen> or just log off, thats good too..
[10:27] <ablomen> (off of irc that is)
[10:30] <jk4> well, I've installed xlockmore and now /usr/bin/xlock works, but it still doesn't start when I suspend xfce...
[10:31] <jk4> (I'm using ubuntu 8.04)
 well if it really doesnt do it i guess you have to make a **-lock-screen.sh
[10:32] <ablomen> in /etc/acpi/suspend.d/ that is
[10:32] <jk4> ablomen: you mean something like that described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=17b7d4922c4b3dd59bf41910b66a1dee&p=4003084&postcount=4 ?
[10:33] <ablomen> jk4, guess so, have no experience myself with that stuff though
[10:33] <ablomen> but looking at the scripts in that folder it shouldnt be too dificult
[10:34] <jk4> I'll try... I wonder if something like that shouldn't be included in some package by default.
[10:34] <ablomen> could be that it is
[10:34] <ablomen> not sure
[10:34] <ablomen> id google a bit more first, before you start adding files etc
[11:31] <cody-somerville> Does anyone know the package that lets you use the mouse in vts?
[11:42] <ablomen> gpm?
[11:46] <cody-somerville> thanks
[11:46] <ablomen> np :)
[12:36] <hooch> is there a gui widget to set the regional settings on xubuntu?  like date formats and so on?
[12:48] <ablomen> hooch, you want to change the language settings etc?
[12:52] <hooch> language is fine.  timezone is fine.
[12:53] <hooch> but if there's a panel in the gui to control regional settings somehow..
[12:53] <TheSheep> system->languages
[12:53] <TheSheep> other than that you need to do it from the command line
[12:58] <gnomefreak> just checking something
[13:11] <kripz> anbody know of any FTP clients that support http proxy?
[13:13] <ablomen> kripz, gftp should
[13:48] <hooch> thx TheSheep
[14:12] <vecciora> Why Ubuntu doesn't make a useful multi-function panel like SUSE and Mandriva does?
[14:13] <vecciora> Yast2 and drakconf were useful and easy to use.
[14:15] <Myrtti> "LOL?"
[14:51] <mr_boo> does anyone know how i could mount my xubuntu machine on another ubuntu one using samba?
[14:51] <Myrtti> why use samba when you could do nfs?
[14:51] <Myrtti> it's easier to set up
[14:52] <mr_boo> well, samba seems to be compatible with nautilus
[14:53] <mr_boo> i can't view any nfs's in "places->network browser"
[14:53] <mr_boo> that and the fact that i wanna share with windows machines as well
[14:53] <mr_boo> is it foolish?
[14:54] <Myrtti> nope
[14:54] <mr_boo> i like nautilus since i don't have to specify tons of stuff in the terminal window to do the same job
[14:55] <mr_boo> but then i found this heartbreaking thread, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/209520
[14:55] <mr_boo> :(''
[14:56] <mr_boo> i haven't specified any password protection on the xubuntu machine :''(
[14:59] <mr_boo> ok, here comes a straight forward question: how do i unauthentify the xubuntu server?
[15:01] <ablomen> mr_boo, in smb.conf, use the "force_user" option on the share
[15:01] <mr_boo> ablomen: on the server side then?
[15:02] <ablomen> force user	=	LOCAL_USERNAME and force group	=	LOCAL_GROUP will stop the client needing to log in
[15:02] <ablomen> yeah
[15:02] <mr_boo> nice, gonna try
[15:02] <ablomen> oh and available       =       yes & browseable      =       yes & public          =       yes & writable        =       yes
[15:03] <ablomen> they will help too
[15:03] <ablomen> *those
[15:20] <anabelle> hello
[15:20] <anabelle> what package manager shoul I use in XFCE?
[15:20] <ub511> hello all, i have via epia C3, i installed xubuntu but i couldn't get sound, how can i fix this ?
[15:20] <anabelle> I'm installing stuff fron the terminal but i can't remember all the names
[15:21] <ablomen> anabelle, xubuntu has add&remove like ubuntu
[15:21] <ablomen> anabelle, on the cli you can use apt-get or aptitude
[15:21] <anabelle> I can't find add&remove
[15:22] <anabelle> maybe because i installed XFCE on top of a minimal install
[15:22] <anabelle> Im running XFCE over debian minimal in a 48MB RAM PC
[15:22] <ablomen> oh
[15:22] <anabelle> I love it!!! but i have no package manager :(
[15:23] <ablomen> yeah you do, you have apt :)
[15:23] <anabelle> I mean, no GUI
[15:23] <anabelle> ;)
[15:23] <ablomen> apt-get install synaptic :)
[15:23] <anabelle> installing
[15:24] <ub511> how to make my sound work ?
[15:24] <ub511> now it work  :)
[15:28] <maxamillion> synaptic is a turd
[15:28] <maxamillion> a big honking, fat, bloated, memory hogging turd
[15:29] <maxamillion> errr... gotta run
[15:30] <anabelle> i've installed synaptiv, but i can't run it
[15:31] <ablomen> anabelle, sudo synaptic doesnt work?
[15:31] <Odd-rationale> anabelle: are you running xubuntu or debian?
[15:31] <anabelle> debian
[15:31] <anabelle> logged in as root
[15:32] <Odd-rationale> anabelle: try the #debian channel
[15:32] <anabelle> now it started
[15:32] <anabelle> it just took abouyt 2 minutes to load
[15:32] <anabelle> is there anything lighter than synaptic?
[15:34] <Odd-rationale> anabelle: aptitude
[15:35] <anabelle> but is aptitud a GUI?
[15:35] <Odd-rationale> yes. curese gui... ;)
[15:35] <anabelle> i want the kid that is going to use this PC to browse trough programs and install what he wants
[15:35] <anabelle> ok :) will try then
[15:36] <Odd-rationale> start it with "aptitude"
[15:36] <Odd-rationale> anabelle: but again, you would get better support in the #debian channel. this channel is rather xubuntu specfic...
[15:37] <mr_boo> ablomen: still around?
[15:38] <mr_boo> after editing the smb.conf will changes take affect at once?
[15:38] <Odd-rationale> mr_boo: maybe not. try "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[15:39] <ablomen> Odd-rationale, darn you, your to fast ;)
[15:39] <Odd-rationale> ;)
[15:39] <mr_boo> thanks
[15:42] <mr_boo> dum di dum...
[15:42] <mr_boo> still "failed to mount windows share"
[15:42] <mr_boo> maybe i should authenticate the share with a password
[15:43] <mr_boo> and hope at least the password dialog to appear...
[15:43] <mr_boo> i guess that would be "password ="
[15:44] <mr_boo> Odd-rationale: do you think "password =" in that share would solve the problem?
[15:45] <ablomen> mr_boo, you have to add the samba users too
[15:45] <ablomen> mr_boo, man smbpasswd
[15:45] <mr_boo> ablomen: i've done so by adding the "force user =" and "force group =" right?
[15:46] <ablomen> nah you have to add a user to samba first, it has its own list of users
[15:46] <mr_boo> so from the server side i need to specify in detail who can view anything on it?
[15:46] <mr_boo> is that correct?
[15:47] <ablomen> well on the server side you have to make (a) user(s) that samba can use to authenticate
[15:47] <ablomen> this can/must be a physical user on the server
[15:48] <mr_boo> no need for firewalls then
[15:48] <mr_boo> noone that is not "invited" can connect
[15:48] <ablomen> heh yes you do, i dont think samba is that secure, not sure though, im no expert
[15:49] <ablomen> and if you use force user etc then everybody can connect
[15:49] <ablomen> except if you whitelist ip's in say iptables or the likes
[16:07] <mr_boo> now i've added a user
[16:08] <mr_boo> and even configured a samba password :)
[16:08] <mr_boo> lets see if this will rock
[16:08] <ablomen> (restart samba to be sure btw)
[16:08] <mr_boo> done that too
[16:08] <ablomen> :)
[16:08] <mr_boo> grr, still the message "failed to mount windows share"
[16:09] <ablomen> :/
[16:09] <mr_boo> it should at least launch pwd dialog
[16:10] <mr_boo> now lets assume it this is a bug in nautilus here and that the xubuntu share works well
[16:11] <mr_boo> then maybe one could choose a command line approach maybe
[16:11] <ablomen> sshfs :)
[16:11] <mr_boo> gonna try
[16:12] <mr_boo> i was hoping to stay away from networking stuff with the command line but it appears as it might be the only option
[16:28] <Stroganoff> mr_boo: http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/FuseSMB http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/Samba
[16:28] <mr_boo> Stroganoff: thanks
[16:29] <mr_boo> i'll read up on that
[16:29] <mr_boo> many thanks for all help
[16:29] <mr_boo> i'll sort this out sooner or later (prolly later :P )
[17:18] <eustas> please, help me! xfce4-panel doesn't start auomatically
[17:20] <cody-somerville> eustas, hello
[17:20] <cody-somerville> eustas, Press alt+f2 and type in xfce4-panel
[17:20] <cody-somerville> hit run
[17:25] <eustas> thank you!
[17:25] <eustas> would t automatically start next session?
[17:27] <zoredache> eustas: it should.  How did it get disabled
[17:29] <eustas> zoredache: it disappeared after licq tried to accept file and failed to do that
[17:31] <zoredache> ah, so it probably was probably some glitch somewhere.  Everything will probably be fine
[17:44] <AlexCONRAD> hello, how can I rebuild (respin) a xubuntu disc ? I'd like to have an automated, custom installation disc containing extra packages to be installed (no network, all CDROM)
[17:44] <AlexCONRAD> i've read about kickstart, preseed, cdebootstrap, but none of them are well documented and I can't seem to figure out in which direction to go
[17:45] <zoredache> AlexCONRAD: you'll want to use the alnternet installer and preseed in my opinion
[17:45] <AlexCONRAD> zoredache: i do have the alternate CD
[17:46] <AlexCONRAD> xubuntu preseed doesn't show much on google on how to understand preseed
[17:46] <zoredache> AlexCONRAD: as for documentation on preseed.  I found that it was easer to read the debian docs
[17:46] <zoredache> both debian/ubuntu-alternate use the same installer
[17:46] <zoredache> AlexCONRAD: here is the link I worked off of - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
[17:46] <suRs> hello
[17:47] <zoredache> obvously you have to some minor translations since this is ubuntu and not debian.  but the docs are mostly useful
[17:48] <AlexCONRAD> zoredache: thanks, I'll go read that. Is there some "post" install possiblities like kickstart provides? Like doing non-package related operations ?
[17:49] <zoredache> AlexCONRAD: there are lots of options.  I think there may be some post install stuff.  If you didnt' find what you need you could write a script, package it, have it installed, then make it so it only runes once post-install
[17:50] <AlexCONRAD> zoredache: ok, so I guess I'll have to learn how to package
[17:50] <AlexCONRAD> :)
[17:50] <zoredache> hacking together a binary package that only contains a script is really easy
[17:51] <zoredache> all you really need to do is make a folder with the files in the structure you want, and you have to create the control file
[18:04] <Jester45> where is the file that makes the menu at? or is it dynmically created
[18:05] <TheSheep> Jester45: it's dynamic, created from files in /usr/share/applications/
[18:05] <Jester45> ok
[18:06] <TheSheep> and ~/.local/share/applications/
[18:06] <Jester45> thanks
[18:14] <suRs> hello
[18:16] <suRs> anone here?
[18:16] <cody-somerville> suRs, yup
[18:16] <suRs> hay cody
[18:19] <AlexCONRAD> what does "d-i" stands for ?
[18:19] <AlexCONRAD> in a preseed file
[18:19] <zoredache> debian installer
[18:21] <suRs> hum
[18:21] <suRs> i just installed wine
[18:21] <suRs> how do i run it?
[18:21] <TheSheep> suRs: double click on some .exe file
[18:21] <suRs> ooo
[18:21] <suRs> nice
[18:21] <suRs> need to test
[18:23] <suRs> how do i create a terminal icon on my desktop ? O_o
[18:24] <TheSheep> suRs: cp /usr/share/applications/xfce4-termina.desktop ~/Desktop/
[18:24] <suRs> cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/applications/xfce4-termina.desktop': No such file or directory
[18:24] <zoredache> try terminal
[18:24] <aanderse> lol
[18:24] <zoredache> instead of termina
[18:25] <suRs> ok
[18:25] <TheSheep> sorry
[18:25] <aanderse> hey suRs, how's your desktop coming along? :)
[18:25] <suRs> thanks
[18:25] <suRs> worked :p
[18:25] <TheSheep> amazing
[18:25] <suRs> aanderse do you whant a screen shot? :p
[18:25] <aanderse> of course!
[18:26] <Myrtti> !tab
[18:26] <Myrtti> ^
[18:27] <suRs> well i send  you a one soon
[18:29] <Jester45> how can i remove network manager and hardware driver icons from my system tray
[18:31] <TheSheep> Jester45: go to autostarted applications
[18:31] <TheSheep> Jester45: and uncheck them
[18:31] <TheSheep> then log out and log in
[18:33] <Jester45> TheSheep: the regular updater should update my drivers shouldnt it
[18:34] <Jester45> or does the manager runs special scripts
[18:34] <TheSheep> no idea
[18:34] <TheSheep> I think the drivers are in normal repositories, so they should get updated normally
[18:35] <Jester45> guess i will see when new ones come out
[18:42] <AlexCONRAD> zoredache: i got that: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/amd64/appendix-preseed.html
[18:44] <Jester45> it worked thanks
[18:50] <Jester45> TheSheep: do you know how the package menu makes it's menu? is it dynamic also
[18:54] <AlexCONRAD> what a .udeb file ?
[18:54] <AlexCONRAD> what's*
[19:28] <mrbubbles> hi
[19:29] <mrbubbles> i've got an old laptop with just 64MB RAM. will xubuntu run terribly on it?
[19:30] <Jester45> mrbubbles: you will have to use some diffrent programs to reduce memory useage
[19:31] <Jester45> like you may want to switch xfwm with openbox to speed things up a bit
[19:32] <Jester45> or xterm with xfce4-terminal
[19:33] <Jester45> right now i use 87mb after i boot up but im sure that could go down more
[19:34] <mrbubbles> i've been looking for distros already designed for low hardware specs. damn small linux is running pretty well, but at the expense of stuff i want to keep like usb device detection
[19:35] <Jester45> my sugestion is install xubuntu and remove/replace things
[19:36] <mrbubbles> if the devices are plugged in at startup then they'll work, but otherwise they won't, unless by some software i don't know about
[19:36] <Jester45> replacing the 2 above things saves a few mb but dont lose any functionality
[19:37] <Jester45> or if you want to play music use mpd + sonata
[19:45] <aanderse> mpd + the ncurses frontend
[19:45] <aanderse> sonata is written in python! too high!
[19:46] <Jester45> or just mpc
[19:46] <aanderse> mhm
[19:46] <aanderse> do a command line install
[19:46] <aanderse> then just pick your pieces
[19:46] <ablomen> i'd try puppy linux, its a lot quicker
[19:47] <ablomen> boots up in a few seconds on faster hw, so older hardware should do pretty well too
[19:53] <Stroganoff> mrbubbles, due to bug #202959, hardy cannot install on 64mb ram
[19:55] <ablomen> ooh thats not good
[19:56] <Stroganoff> yep
[19:56] <Stroganoff> you have to install gutsy CLI minimal, upgrade to hardy, then install icewm or something
[20:19] <Boxxxer> hello
[20:20] <Boxxxer> please tell me how can i make a screenshot of the whole screen in Xubuntu
[20:20] <zoredache> if you right click on the panel you can add a screen shot application
[20:20] <zoredache> once it is added just click the button
[20:20] <Boxxxer> thanks for the tip
[20:25] <Stroganoff> ablomen, aanderse, mrbubbles: here's my workaround.. http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/LowMemory
[20:28] <ablomen> Stroganoff, nice :)
[20:49] <Jester45> anyone used the moebiusgears screensaver? its really cool
[22:07] <Tipper> My panels dissapeared and when I run the code in the terminal they don't stay unless I keep the terminal open. And I don't want the terminal open every second
[22:23] <AlexCONRAD> zoredache: do you know an utility to generate a a .seed file ?
[22:26] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: hi hi
[22:26] <DaveKong> Anyone use zsnes? I have a couple questions.
[22:27] <cody-somerville> maxamillion, hi
[22:30] <Tipper> My panels dissapeared and when I run the code in the terminal they don't stay unless I keep the terminal open. And I don't want the terminal open every second
[22:30] <Tipper> I boot up
[22:30] <Tipper> cody-somerville: you know you helped me last time :p
[22:32] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: is the xubuntu team officially working on supporting the EeePC?
[22:33] <cody-somerville> Tipper, append &
[22:33] <cody-somerville> Tipper, xfce4-panel &
[22:33] <cody-somerville> maxamillion, if you want to purchase and send me one, sure ;]
[22:34] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: lol
[22:34] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: i'll tell you what, if the 701 goes down in price when the atom based 901 comes out, i will see if i can afford to
[22:34] <Tipper> cody-somerville: so what do I type?
[22:35] <cody-somerville> Tipper, xfce4-panel &
[22:36] <cody-somerville> maxamillion, ;]
[22:38] <Tipper> cody I can't add the volume item to my panel
[22:43] <Tipper> cody-somerville: when I exit out of the terminal it dies
[22:44] <cody-somerville> Press alt+f2 and run it from there
[22:45] <Tipper> cody-somerville: what about the volume item
[22:46] <cody-somerville> right click, add
[22:46] <cody-somerville> (on the panel)
[23:15] <DaveKong> Does anyone know how to fix sdl sounds problems?
[23:15] <DaveKong> the unbuntu forums is down for maintanence :(
[23:17] <Daviey> a/win 20
[23:20] <DaveKong> ?
[23:20] <DaveKong> what does that mean?
[23:21] <Myrtti> nothing
[23:21] <Myrtti> a mistyping on irc client
[23:21] <riddlebox> is there a good howto on getting compiz-fusion working under xubuntu?
[23:22] <cody-somerville> yup
[23:22] <riddlebox> cody-somerville: got a link?
[23:24] <megamaced> hi, I connect to the internet via wireless. I am using ndiswrapper and network-manager. Everytime I log into my computer I get asked for my keyring password. How can I get Network-manager to authenticate automatically? thanks
[23:25] <cody-somerville> riddlebox, the fist result for googling "Xubuntu Compiz" :) http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[23:27] <riddlebox> cody-somerville: I searched for it and followed a howto, and when I rebooted I had no x, so I was a little leary
[23:28] <cody-somerville> :]