[00:02] hey it's me handjob.well u sir r my saviour and i would like to give birth to your children...to bad i am man thou i would like to thrad u a coffe or beer.whare do u live? [00:03] ps everything works like charm [00:03] *charm [00:04] poopuser: we are not done yet... [00:04] ; O [00:04] i just change the video driver to a fall back (vesa). we need to find out why your ati driver is not working... [00:05] i am simple mided but i think it may be related to chosing wrong resolution [00:05] poopuser: what card do you have? [00:06] excalibur 9200 [00:07] poopuser: does "lscpi | grep VGA" give you any output? [00:08] now i can tell that 'copy' option is XXXXXX amazing brb imput [00:09] command not found? [00:09] ooops [00:09] ; ) [00:09] lspci | grep VGA [00:09] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01) [00:13] poopuser: try going to applications --> system --> restricted drivers manager [00:13] poopuser: is there an option to install any restricted drivers? [00:15] thout as u may(lol)notice english is not my native language i don't think i do posses application [00:15] system> [00:15] ? [00:15] accesories? [00:16] settings> [00:16] > [00:16] poopuser: you are on xubuntu? [00:16] yes! [00:17] poopuser: you don't have aplications --> system ? [00:18] system > drivers managment (my translation) [00:19] poopuser: yes. try that onw [00:19] one [00:20] does it tell you that you have no restricted drivers to install? [00:20] or can you check a chechbox to install some restricted drivers? [00:20] sry 'lost in translation' it's managment of....how to put it...non comercial drivers [00:20] and it says i dont need any [00:21] checkbox? [00:21] too bad. mabye there isn't a driver available for you card yet... [00:21] is using vesa ok with you? [00:21] l D [00:22] it's better then b4-i am afraid of dark ; D [00:22] well one way or another i am rally greatefull for your time [00:22] ok. you wont be able to do any compositing or fancy stuff though... [00:23] well i won't leave it this way and propobly xxxx up some more things just to come back here and whine 4 help [00:24] no problem. [00:25] but u give me new hope as a part of linux community.i shall never forget it~ [00:25] btw i was serious when i told i will threat u a beer [00:25] where do u live? [00:26] heh, that was actually an easy one. we didn't really fix it. we just side-stepped it... [00:26] dont be shine or maybe u don't like beer ? ;D [00:27] i'm actually < 21 ... [00:28] wow accualy younger then me (23) wow that was a blow [00:28] so old so stupid l D [00:30] so...i guess we will se ech other again [00:30] bye thx again [00:31] ok. see ya! [00:31] it's time for nano xorg.conf! fuck yea\!!!!!] [00:33] you know, it is kind of nice to help out in a chennel this size. #ubuntu ... toooo many people... [00:48] welcome back... [00:49] Odd stop hiding i can here u breathing : D [00:52] Odd sry for wasting your time.i got back to 'ati' in xorg.conf and set 800x600 res.i don't have to say it way bad idead?then i got back to 'vesa' thou still my desktop look like jackson's pollock art [00:52] [00:53] In Xubuntu 8.04, do apturl apps not work in Firefox? ie, is the apturl package not installed by default? [00:53] remember we made a back up your xorg.conf file? restore it (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and replace ati with vesa [00:54] ...i was thinking the same thing... (not really ; D) [00:54] tgm4883_laptop: i'm not too familiar with apturl... search synaptics and see if you need to install an apturl package... or it could just be ff3... [00:55] heh, it's not my installation. i'm trying to help a user and he can't install from this apturl link on this page http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu [00:55] is FF3 default in Xubuntu 8.04 [00:55] tgm4883_laptop: yes. ff3 is defualt in hardy [00:56] tgm4883_laptop: open synaptics instead. and to to packages --> mark packages by tasks [00:56] hmm, interesting. For some reason he is running ff2. He upgraded from 7.10, any known bugs doing that? [00:56] tgm4883_laptop: you should be able to find the mythbuntu task there... [00:56] tgm4883_laptop: not any bugs that i know of... [00:57] yea I know, I got him to install it via apt. Was just wondering if other xubuntu users are going to have this same problem [00:57] he seems to be having a few other issues as well, such as he lost all his file associations. But thats not really my area of help [00:58] thanks though for the help [00:59] shit desctop still looks like pizza.any idea whare res settings may be stored exept xorg,conf? [01:00] handjob: pastebinit your xorg file again: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit" [01:00] <3 [01:02] paste.stgraber.org/5112 [01:06] handjob: i can't find anything wrong... [01:06] handjob: maybe reboot? (last resort...) [01:07] yes!lest reboot [01:07] brb [01:07] Do you think my computer will fuck up if I install every game from the add/remove applications thing? [01:07] Tipper: well, it shouldn't... [01:08] Tipper: but why would you want to do that? [01:08] ;) [01:08] :p [01:08] imagine how long that would take to download... [01:09] not long [01:09] for me it's taken 2 hours [01:09] 1 remaning [01:10] well, here's a live dvd with the some top native linux games. just boot'n play: http://live.linux-gamers.net/ [01:11] no go.in difference from my strting point (black screen) now it just looks like bad suited res, [01:13] why can i start up config programs(those that i used to xxxx up thigs again) from fail safe?also can i chose only one res by editing xorg.conf? [01:13] *can't [01:14] handjob: yes you can choose only one resolution [01:14] handjob: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [01:14] Is there a way to get a mounted slave drive, in my case media/slave, to show in the thunar files manager as a "mounted" drive along "file system Drive" [01:15] nano fstab [01:15] not really i am only trying to look cool l D [01:15] peterajamesh: try adding it to your /etc/fstab file [01:15] man fstab for details... [01:15] I did [01:15] there are 1720 games [01:15] :DDDD [01:16] Tipper: wow, you must be so,e gamer... [01:16] nah I just am venturing over to hawaii then mermaryland then japan this sum [01:16] maryland* summer* [01:16] and the planes are really shitty and don't have wireless [01:18] it mounted if I go to madia/slave I can access the salve drive, I want see if i can get the slave HD to show in file manager just external drive would [01:18] Odd can u spell that command once more but with double spaces? [01:19] handjob: double spaces? [01:19] handjob: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [01:19] tu [01:20] so it made backup of xorg,conf.longnumbers [01:22] handjob: pastebinit your new one please... [01:22] kk [01:22] handjob: your lastest one that is. the one current in xorg.conf [01:24] thx god i thought i would have to type all that numbers.just a sce [01:26] pase.stgraber.org/5113 [01:26] paste.stgraber.org/5113 [01:29] handjob: ok. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf again and change the driver to vesa and set your resolution lower again... [01:30] deja vu! [01:30] then save the file [01:30] and restart X (ctrl+alt+bksp) [01:31] i am shocked that u do this stuff for no $ [01:31] ; ) [01:32] half way done ith downloading the games [01:33] Tipper: i think you are insane... ;) [01:33] orly? [01:33] It took me 30 minutes to select them all :P [01:33] I'm downloading them onto my new TB drive [01:34] ooooh, a terabyte... [01:34] handjob: no good? [01:34] did't work.i wont take more of your time.smoking a cig and going 2 sleep.thx 4 anything [01:34] handjob: ok. sorry, i could help more... [01:35] My schools server has 200tbs o.O [01:35] and half of it are used [01:35] np.i thing tomorow i will install arch.hope they got good irc support l D [01:36] heh, i am in the arch irc support... [02:14] ohai [02:14] is there an easy way to restart X? [02:16] i've done horrible things to my xorg.conf and i hate rebooting each time i try and fix it [02:16] hmm [02:16] idk :P [02:17] what the hell is wrong with me download speed? [02:17] I'm hopping from 200bps to 5mbs [02:19] the fuck are you doing here Tipper [02:20] ? [02:20] i thought this was the other channel for a sec when i saw you talking [02:20] anyway, what the hell, something's horribly wrong with my xorg.conf [02:22] what's more, i can't figure out where the error is occurring, because i don't know where the errors go to [02:26] okay, /var/log/Xorg.0.log* [02:26] which shows nothing of interest [02:27] well, reboot, lawl [02:37] lc2: the easy way to restart x is ctrl+alt+blsp [02:39] yeah, but i found that didn't really restart it [02:39] in that it didn't die all over again reading my xorg.conf [02:39] hate hate hate [02:40] as it happens it was about xorg not liking the DisableEdid option [02:40] (or any Option at all in that part of the config file) [02:42] wee [02:47] * lc2 is stuck in 1152x864 at 60hz, but can live with that for now [03:56] hello, what's the command to see whois on active? [04:01] pardon? [04:03] to show the whois on active [04:06] active on what [04:07] to see the whois on main [04:07] on the active window [04:07] something like /Set whois_on_active [04:08] n-iCe: I can't read your mind. You are going to be more specific [04:08] nevermind [04:08] hello, what's the command to see whois on active? === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale [10:17] hello, do you think it's possible to make xubuntu lock screen when suspending? [10:20] (would be great if that would be possible without messing with /etc/acpi) [10:24] I think it already does [10:24] you have to install the screen locking app first though [10:24] for some reason it isnt installed by default [10:25] ablomen: which app? [10:25] xlockmore [10:25] ablomen: xflock4 works for me, but it doesn't seem to fire up when doing suspend [10:25] ablomen: ok, I'll check it [10:26] oh ok [10:26] well if it really doesnt do it i guess you have to make a **-lock-screen.sh [10:26] or just log off, thats good too.. [10:27] (off of irc that is) [10:30] well, I've installed xlockmore and now /usr/bin/xlock works, but it still doesn't start when I suspend xfce... [10:31] (I'm using ubuntu 8.04) [10:31] well if it really doesnt do it i guess you have to make a **-lock-screen.sh [10:32] in /etc/acpi/suspend.d/ that is [10:32] ablomen: you mean something like that described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=17b7d4922c4b3dd59bf41910b66a1dee&p=4003084&postcount=4 ? [10:33] jk4, guess so, have no experience myself with that stuff though [10:33] but looking at the scripts in that folder it shouldnt be too dificult [10:34] I'll try... I wonder if something like that shouldn't be included in some package by default. [10:34] could be that it is [10:34] not sure [10:34] id google a bit more first, before you start adding files etc [11:31] Does anyone know the package that lets you use the mouse in vts? [11:42] gpm? [11:46] thanks [11:46] np :) [12:36] is there a gui widget to set the regional settings on xubuntu? like date formats and so on? [12:48] hooch, you want to change the language settings etc? [12:52] language is fine. timezone is fine. [12:53] but if there's a panel in the gui to control regional settings somehow.. [12:53] system->languages [12:53] other than that you need to do it from the command line [12:58] just checking something [13:11] anbody know of any FTP clients that support http proxy? [13:13] kripz, gftp should [13:48] thx TheSheep [14:12] Why Ubuntu doesn't make a useful multi-function panel like SUSE and Mandriva does? [14:13] Yast2 and drakconf were useful and easy to use. [14:15] "LOL?" [14:51] does anyone know how i could mount my xubuntu machine on another ubuntu one using samba? [14:51] why use samba when you could do nfs? [14:51] it's easier to set up [14:52] well, samba seems to be compatible with nautilus [14:53] i can't view any nfs's in "places->network browser" [14:53] that and the fact that i wanna share with windows machines as well [14:53] is it foolish? [14:54] nope [14:54] i like nautilus since i don't have to specify tons of stuff in the terminal window to do the same job [14:55] but then i found this heartbreaking thread, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/209520 [14:55] Launchpad bug 209520 in nautilus "SMB error: Unable to mount location when server configured with security=share" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:55] :('' [14:56] i haven't specified any password protection on the xubuntu machine :''( [14:59] ok, here comes a straight forward question: how do i unauthentify the xubuntu server? [15:01] mr_boo, in smb.conf, use the "force_user" option on the share [15:01] ablomen: on the server side then? [15:02] force user = LOCAL_USERNAME and force group = LOCAL_GROUP will stop the client needing to log in [15:02] yeah [15:02] nice, gonna try [15:02] oh and available = yes & browseable = yes & public = yes & writable = yes [15:03] they will help too [15:03] *those [15:20] hello [15:20] what package manager shoul I use in XFCE? [15:20] hello all, i have via epia C3, i installed xubuntu but i couldn't get sound, how can i fix this ? [15:20] I'm installing stuff fron the terminal but i can't remember all the names [15:21] anabelle, xubuntu has add&remove like ubuntu [15:21] anabelle, on the cli you can use apt-get or aptitude [15:21] I can't find add&remove [15:22] maybe because i installed XFCE on top of a minimal install [15:22] Im running XFCE over debian minimal in a 48MB RAM PC [15:22] oh [15:22] I love it!!! but i have no package manager :( [15:23] yeah you do, you have apt :) [15:23] I mean, no GUI [15:23] ;) [15:23] apt-get install synaptic :) [15:23] installing [15:24] how to make my sound work ? [15:24] now it work :) [15:28] synaptic is a turd [15:28] a big honking, fat, bloated, memory hogging turd [15:29] errr... gotta run [15:30] i've installed synaptiv, but i can't run it [15:31] anabelle, sudo synaptic doesnt work? [15:31] anabelle: are you running xubuntu or debian? [15:31] debian [15:31] logged in as root [15:32] anabelle: try the #debian channel [15:32] now it started [15:32] it just took abouyt 2 minutes to load [15:32] is there anything lighter than synaptic? [15:34] anabelle: aptitude [15:35] but is aptitud a GUI? [15:35] yes. curese gui... ;) [15:35] i want the kid that is going to use this PC to browse trough programs and install what he wants [15:35] ok :) will try then [15:36] start it with "aptitude" [15:36] anabelle: but again, you would get better support in the #debian channel. this channel is rather xubuntu specfic... [15:37] ablomen: still around? [15:38] after editing the smb.conf will changes take affect at once? [15:38] mr_boo: maybe not. try "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" [15:39] Odd-rationale, darn you, your to fast ;) [15:39] ;) [15:39] thanks [15:42] dum di dum... [15:42] still "failed to mount windows share" [15:42] maybe i should authenticate the share with a password [15:43] and hope at least the password dialog to appear... [15:43] i guess that would be "password =" [15:44] Odd-rationale: do you think "password =" in that share would solve the problem? [15:45] mr_boo, you have to add the samba users too [15:45] mr_boo, man smbpasswd [15:45] ablomen: i've done so by adding the "force user =" and "force group =" right? [15:46] nah you have to add a user to samba first, it has its own list of users [15:46] so from the server side i need to specify in detail who can view anything on it? [15:46] is that correct? [15:47] well on the server side you have to make (a) user(s) that samba can use to authenticate [15:47] this can/must be a physical user on the server [15:48] no need for firewalls then [15:48] noone that is not "invited" can connect [15:48] heh yes you do, i dont think samba is that secure, not sure though, im no expert [15:49] and if you use force user etc then everybody can connect [15:49] except if you whitelist ip's in say iptables or the likes [16:07] now i've added a user [16:08] and even configured a samba password :) [16:08] lets see if this will rock [16:08] (restart samba to be sure btw) [16:08] done that too [16:08] :) [16:08] grr, still the message "failed to mount windows share" [16:09] :/ [16:09] it should at least launch pwd dialog [16:10] now lets assume it this is a bug in nautilus here and that the xubuntu share works well [16:11] then maybe one could choose a command line approach maybe [16:11] sshfs :) [16:11] gonna try [16:12] i was hoping to stay away from networking stuff with the command line but it appears as it might be the only option [16:28] mr_boo: http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/FuseSMB http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/Samba [16:28] Stroganoff: thanks [16:29] i'll read up on that [16:29] many thanks for all help [16:29] i'll sort this out sooner or later (prolly later :P ) [17:18] please, help me! xfce4-panel doesn't start auomatically [17:20] eustas, hello [17:20] eustas, Press alt+f2 and type in xfce4-panel [17:20] hit run [17:25] thank you! [17:25] would t automatically start next session? [17:27] eustas: it should. How did it get disabled [17:29] zoredache: it disappeared after licq tried to accept file and failed to do that [17:31] ah, so it probably was probably some glitch somewhere. Everything will probably be fine [17:44] hello, how can I rebuild (respin) a xubuntu disc ? I'd like to have an automated, custom installation disc containing extra packages to be installed (no network, all CDROM) [17:44] i've read about kickstart, preseed, cdebootstrap, but none of them are well documented and I can't seem to figure out in which direction to go [17:45] AlexCONRAD: you'll want to use the alnternet installer and preseed in my opinion [17:45] zoredache: i do have the alternate CD [17:46] xubuntu preseed doesn't show much on google on how to understand preseed [17:46] AlexCONRAD: as for documentation on preseed. I found that it was easer to read the debian docs [17:46] both debian/ubuntu-alternate use the same installer [17:46] AlexCONRAD: here is the link I worked off of - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed [17:46] hello [17:47] obvously you have to some minor translations since this is ubuntu and not debian. but the docs are mostly useful [17:48] zoredache: thanks, I'll go read that. Is there some "post" install possiblities like kickstart provides? Like doing non-package related operations ? [17:49] AlexCONRAD: there are lots of options. I think there may be some post install stuff. If you didnt' find what you need you could write a script, package it, have it installed, then make it so it only runes once post-install [17:50] zoredache: ok, so I guess I'll have to learn how to package [17:50] :) [17:50] hacking together a binary package that only contains a script is really easy [17:51] all you really need to do is make a folder with the files in the structure you want, and you have to create the control file [18:04] where is the file that makes the menu at? or is it dynmically created [18:05] Jester45: it's dynamic, created from files in /usr/share/applications/ [18:05] ok [18:06] and ~/.local/share/applications/ [18:06] thanks [18:14] hello [18:16] anone here? [18:16] suRs, yup [18:16] hay cody [18:19] what does "d-i" stands for ? [18:19] in a preseed file [18:19] debian installer [18:21] hum [18:21] i just installed wine [18:21] how do i run it? [18:21] suRs: double click on some .exe file [18:21] ooo [18:21] nice [18:21] need to test [18:23] how do i create a terminal icon on my desktop ? O_o [18:24] suRs: cp /usr/share/applications/xfce4-termina.desktop ~/Desktop/ [18:24] cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/applications/xfce4-termina.desktop': No such file or directory [18:24] try terminal [18:24] lol [18:24] instead of termina [18:25] ok [18:25] sorry [18:25] hey suRs, how's your desktop coming along? :) [18:25] thanks [18:25] worked :p [18:25] amazing [18:25] aanderse do you whant a screen shot? :p [18:25] of course! [18:26] !tab [18:26] You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [18:26] ^ [18:27] well i send you a one soon [18:29] how can i remove network manager and hardware driver icons from my system tray [18:31] Jester45: go to autostarted applications [18:31] Jester45: and uncheck them [18:31] then log out and log in [18:33] TheSheep: the regular updater should update my drivers shouldnt it [18:34] or does the manager runs special scripts [18:34] no idea [18:34] I think the drivers are in normal repositories, so they should get updated normally [18:35] guess i will see when new ones come out [18:42] zoredache: i got that: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/amd64/appendix-preseed.html [18:44] it worked thanks [18:50] TheSheep: do you know how the package menu makes it's menu? is it dynamic also === |hfsdo| is now known as hfsdo [18:54] what a .udeb file ? [18:54] what's* [19:28] hi [19:29] i've got an old laptop with just 64MB RAM. will xubuntu run terribly on it? [19:30] mrbubbles: you will have to use some diffrent programs to reduce memory useage [19:31] like you may want to switch xfwm with openbox to speed things up a bit [19:32] or xterm with xfce4-terminal [19:33] right now i use 87mb after i boot up but im sure that could go down more [19:34] i've been looking for distros already designed for low hardware specs. damn small linux is running pretty well, but at the expense of stuff i want to keep like usb device detection [19:35] my sugestion is install xubuntu and remove/replace things [19:36] if the devices are plugged in at startup then they'll work, but otherwise they won't, unless by some software i don't know about [19:36] replacing the 2 above things saves a few mb but dont lose any functionality [19:37] or if you want to play music use mpd + sonata [19:45] mpd + the ncurses frontend [19:45] sonata is written in python! too high! [19:46] or just mpc [19:46] mhm [19:46] do a command line install [19:46] then just pick your pieces [19:46] i'd try puppy linux, its a lot quicker === |hfsdo| is now known as hfsdo [19:47] boots up in a few seconds on faster hw, so older hardware should do pretty well too [19:53] mrbubbles, due to bug #202959, hardy cannot install on 64mb ram [19:53] Launchpad bug 202959 in debian-installer "[hardy] generating locales stalls on 64mb ram" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202959 [19:55] ooh thats not good [19:56] yep [19:56] you have to install gutsy CLI minimal, upgrade to hardy, then install icewm or something [20:19] hello [20:20] please tell me how can i make a screenshot of the whole screen in Xubuntu [20:20] if you right click on the panel you can add a screen shot application [20:20] once it is added just click the button [20:20] thanks for the tip [20:25] ablomen, aanderse, mrbubbles: here's my workaround.. http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/LowMemory [20:28] Stroganoff, nice :) [20:49] anyone used the moebiusgears screensaver? its really cool [22:07] My panels dissapeared and when I run the code in the terminal they don't stay unless I keep the terminal open. And I don't want the terminal open every second [22:23] zoredache: do you know an utility to generate a a .seed file ? [22:26] cody-somerville: hi hi [22:26] Anyone use zsnes? I have a couple questions. [22:27] maxamillion, hi [22:30] My panels dissapeared and when I run the code in the terminal they don't stay unless I keep the terminal open. And I don't want the terminal open every second [22:30] I boot up [22:30] cody-somerville: you know you helped me last time :p [22:32] cody-somerville: is the xubuntu team officially working on supporting the EeePC? [22:33] Tipper, append & [22:33] Tipper, xfce4-panel & [22:33] maxamillion, if you want to purchase and send me one, sure ;] [22:34] cody-somerville: lol [22:34] cody-somerville: i'll tell you what, if the 701 goes down in price when the atom based 901 comes out, i will see if i can afford to [22:34] cody-somerville: so what do I type? [22:35] Tipper, xfce4-panel & [22:36] maxamillion, ;] [22:38] cody I can't add the volume item to my panel [22:43] cody-somerville: when I exit out of the terminal it dies [22:44] Press alt+f2 and run it from there [22:45] cody-somerville: what about the volume item [22:46] right click, add [22:46] (on the panel) [23:15] Does anyone know how to fix sdl sounds problems? [23:15] the unbuntu forums is down for maintanence :( [23:17] a/win 20 [23:20] ? [23:20] what does that mean? [23:21] nothing [23:21] a mistyping on irc client [23:21] is there a good howto on getting compiz-fusion working under xubuntu? [23:22] yup [23:22] cody-somerville: got a link? [23:24] hi, I connect to the internet via wireless. I am using ndiswrapper and network-manager. Everytime I log into my computer I get asked for my keyring password. How can I get Network-manager to authenticate automatically? thanks [23:25] riddlebox, the fist result for googling "Xubuntu Compiz" :) http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ [23:27] cody-somerville: I searched for it and followed a howto, and when I rebooted I had no x, so I was a little leary [23:28] :]