[01:56] * danshearer is away: Zzzz [03:54] Does LP have a thing where I can say, for example, "Closes: #12345" in a bug report (if I'm a contributor to the relevant project) and it works?" [03:54] * marnanel has seen this in other systems [03:56] marnanel: in a bug report? [03:56] jml: in a commit message when you push the commit to lp. [03:56] marnanel: ahh. [03:57] eh, "bug report" doesn't mean anything. I am too sleepy. [03:57] anyway, is there? [03:57] marnanel: not quite. If you do 'bzr commit --fixes lp:12345' and push that to Launchpad then it'll link the bug report to the branch. [03:58] marnanel: auto-closing the bugs is something we want to do, but is a bit harder to get right with Launchpad & Bazaar than it is for Trac & svn. [03:58] jml: awesome, that's what I was looking for. thanks [03:58] * marnanel nods, I can see how it would be harder in a distributed world. [03:59] one of those "it makes sense when you half-close your eyes and don't think about it too hard" things, but when you get down to actually drawing up algorithms... [03:59] marnanel: also, a single bug on Launchpad can be on many different projects (what are sometimes called "bugtasks") [03:59] * marnanel nods, makes sense. [03:59] thank you! [03:59] marnanel: np. [04:57] How do I get lp:my-project-name pointing at ~marnanel/+my-project-name/trunk ? [05:00] marnanel: IIRC, there should be a prominent link at https://code.launchpad.net/my-project-name to help you do that [05:00] marnanel: lp:projectname gives you the branch associated with the development focus release series [05:00] marnanel: so https://launchpad.net/$projectname/trunk/+edit is probably what you want [05:00] thumper: ^ apparently configuring lp:my-project-foo still isn't easily discoverable... [05:01] * thumper hangs head [05:01] damnit [05:01] spiv: I don't actually see it... sorry [05:01] jamesh: thanks :) [05:01] marnanel: do you have edit permissions on the project? [05:02] I'm pretty sure I do [05:02] marnanel: which project? [05:02] app-blt [05:03] so it just magically picks up the development branch? [05:03] that sounds fair enough. [05:03] marnanel: because there should have been I big heading on https://code.launchpad.net/app-blt that said that the development focus was not set [05:03] marnanel: but I see that it now is [05:04] thumper: ah, I think I see the problem [05:04] marnanel: yeah. the lp: names take three basic forms at the moment: lp:~user/project/branch, lp:project/series and lp:project [05:04] thumper: before, the project was hosted on svn [05:04] thumper: so the imports team imported it [05:04] thumper: so THAT was the development branch [05:04] marnanel: ah, ok [05:04] the last two use branches associated with release series [05:04] jamesh: I see [05:04] the last using the "development focus" release series [05:04] * marnanel is feeling a whole lot less lost about this :) [05:05] marnanel: do you want me to stop the import? [05:06] thumper: ah, interesting. [05:06] thumper: yes please! [05:06] marnanel: I can set the import branch to abandonded [05:06] thumper: I would love that [05:06] marnanel: consider it done [05:06] and it is after midnight, so I should go to bed really [05:06] thank you all for being so helpful. [05:07] marnanel: I'm glad we could help :) [09:00] Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! === emgent_ is now known as emgent === mwhudson__ is now known as mwhudson === mdz_ is now known as mdz [11:16] are we able to add signitures to LP so when commenting on a bug from LP site instead of email it will show the signature on the post. [11:20] kiko hi [11:21] Hi. I'd like to delete a single revision of a package from a PPA, and revert to the proceeding revision (currently superceded). [11:21] How would I do that? [11:22] persia: delete the current (+delete-packages) and copy the previously deleted version to the same archive/same suite/including binaries (+copy-package) [11:22] persia: it will break upgrades, though. [11:23] cprov: I'm not concerned about upgrades, in this case. Thanks. [11:23] persia: only do that if you are sure no one has installed the lastest/broken version (or deal with them) [11:24] cprov: To expand on why I'm not concerned about upgrades: this is a package that is part of the Ubuntu Mobile set, and gets installed as part of an image build that gets tested. [11:24] While there are likely a few people who are continually upgrading their systems, those tracking the PPA ought expect some damage. [11:24] cprov, hi [11:24] For the general case (even developer case), the images are rebuilt fresh for each run, so the upgrade just doesn't happen. [11:25] persia: good, copying the superseded version back will work them [11:25] Ekushey: hi [11:26] cprov, i'm waiting to get the translations approved on https://launchpad.net/rbl/ ... can you please help? [11:27] Ekushey: sorry, I can't do that. It's not in my domain ;) [11:27] cprov, whom to talk to about this? [11:27] What's the shortcut syntax to use to get LP to automatically turn an LP bug reference into a link? Something like LP #nnnnn or LP: nnnnn ? LP nnnnnn didn't work. [11:28] This is in the context of writing a bug comment [11:28] Ekushey: actually, I'm not sure if the decision is distribution or lp-wise. Sorry. [11:28] munckfish: bug #nnn should work [11:29] geser: thx, I'll try to remember that for next time :) [11:29] are these shortcuts documented anywhere? [11:29] cprov: Erm. I get 404 from .../+archive/+copy-package . How do I copy the old one back? [11:29] If so I'll hunt for the info [11:29] cprov, ok, thanks [11:30] persia: use the link in the action menu on PPA overview (I can't type, +copy-packages) [11:31] * persia isn't used to using the mouse for LP navigation, and is pleasantly surprised at how well it works [11:32] aff, really ? === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch [11:35] cprov-lunch: Thanks for your help. It worked swimmingly. [11:44] Who ate my poor bug page icons and drew circles around them? [11:45] wgrant: don't you find the new icons to be more visible? they're supposed to be an improvement... [11:46] intellectronica: The description edit icon is much less clear, IMO. [11:47] hi there [11:47] The forgotten password link on wiki.ubuntu.com is targeted to launchpad.ubuntu.com, which makes a bad SSL error on Firefox 3 [11:47] THey also make the page look rather more cluttered - there's no other solid dark content in the main content region. [11:48] i tend to agree that the edit icon is less clear than the previous one [11:48] The pencil in it is tiny, and I don't think I'd know it was a pencil unless I'd seen the old one. [11:48] but i think the others look much more 'clickable', so i think they're quite an improvement [11:48] mpt: ^^^ [11:49] I guess, but they don't look like anything else anywhere on Launchpad, in the slightest. [11:49] I thought they were an artifact from one of my Firefox extensions, initially. [11:51] wgrant, the icons are not final [11:52] but the problem of them not looking like anything else on Launchpad is temporary [11:52] will the icons change or everything else? [11:52] bug 236908 [11:52] Launchpad bug 236908 in launchpad "Add and Edit icons are unclear" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236908 [11:52] mpt: In that the rest of Launchpad will look like them? === fta_ is now known as fta [11:56] wgrant, that is a good question! [11:59] wgrant, I'll fix the icons and make them more Launchpaddy, see the bug report [12:00] kiko: What is? [12:00] mpt: Sounds good. [12:02] hi kiko [12:02] kiko, can you please take a look at https://launchpad.net/rbl/ and possibly approve it? [12:03] Ekushey, as I said, no, but jtv and danilos can [12:04] ok kiko === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [12:25] Ekushey: hi. About Royal Bengal Linux, did you get my email a few weeks back? [12:26] Ekushey: correction, it seems to have gone out on May 27th. [12:27] Ekushey: (Odd, I was pretty sure it was much longer) === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov [12:40] why 8.10 is on the list of old version in http://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ? [12:40] hi jtv [12:41] zwnj: Other, not older [12:41] Why 8.04 isn't marked as the focus, I don't know. [12:42] wgrant: oops, right. but why? [12:42] Because people aren't using 8.10. [12:42] I hope. [12:42] wgrant: who knows? [12:42] zwnj: hi [12:43] wgrant: pointupdates? [12:43] s/updates/releases/ [12:43] Nafallo: That's right. [12:43] 8.04 will have regular translation updates. [12:43] wgrant, zwnj: we generally keep older versions as the translation focus, though not necessarily until their support ends. We copy translations from older translations to the newer ones from time to time. [12:44] jtv: thanks for the email. i'm reactivating the team [12:44] zwnj: saw that. Good idea to set up the teams the way you're doing. [12:44] jtv: Ah, I would have thought the focus should be on the LTS. [12:44] jtv, hi! i replied that email [12:44] jtv: so which one is the best to start now? i'm think of 8.04 [12:44] Ekushey: Hmm... I'll need to do some searching then. [12:45] zwnj: for your case, yes, 8.04. [12:45] ok jtv, thanks [12:46] wgrant: the LTS is usually the focus, yes, though not all the way until EOL. [12:46] jtv: Right, EOL is quite some time. [12:46] so we will start with 8.04, because it's a LTS, it has more potential users right now, and it would be more easy to re-enable persian in 8.10 [12:46] wgrant: we're working towards making the distinction a bit less important though. [12:47] jtv: More string sharing between distroseries? [12:47] zwnj: good reasons all. I'd add to that: if you have a lot of catching up to do, there's no point in doing that on an older version. [12:47] wgrant: right. [12:47] That would make a lot of sense [12:47] jtv: btw, i just realized that i met you on guadec2006. are you going to istanbul this year? [12:48] zwnj: I wasn't at guadec! [12:48] zwnj: maybe that was Carlos or Danilo? [12:48] evil twins! [12:48] LarstiQ: robot twins! From Mars! [12:49] jtv: now you scare me. Can you confirm I have met you, or were those martians? [12:49] jtv: your mugshot on launchpad was so familiar... don't know why. [12:49] LarstiQ: yes, you have met me. [12:49] pfew :) [12:50] zwnj: we have a lot of robots on this planet. ;-) [12:50] ok === Spads is now known as o_o [12:50] SURRENDER HYOO-MANS [12:50] o_o: O_o [12:50] zwnj: seriously, there may have been a distant resemblance to Carlos. === o_o is now known as Spads [12:51] which Carlos? [12:51] The godly Launchpad Translations one. [12:53] Ekushey: ah... I think I see the problem: apparently a server at my provider exploded and burned out. But your message should still be stored somewhere. [12:53] zwnj: Carlos Perelló Marín. [12:56] jtv, i'm talking to danilos about this, it is now resolved... thanks [12:56] Ekushey: cool [12:57] :) [12:57] zwnj: it's pretty likely we met at one of GUADEC's -- you are Behdad's brother, right? [12:58] hi danilos. yep [12:59] danilos: of course i have met you [12:59] zwnj: hehe, right :) [13:01] danilos, is there a way i can filter the xfce files? === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [13:03] Ekushey: unfortunately, not at the moment; but they should be on the first few pages (because they have a "higher priority") [13:04] alright, thanks again [13:04] Hmm, doesn't XFCE stuff not have translations? [13:04] As it's in universe? [13:05] wgrant: is it in universe? [13:05] danilos: Since Hardy. [13:05] Do we have a solution for the lack of universe translations yet? [13:05] wgrant: we have a solution, not sure about Ubuntu side :) [13:06] wgrant: i.e. the problem is distributing updates to users, since language packs would include too many things, thus grow too big [13:06] Yes, I've been wondering how we could solve that. [13:10] wgrant: there are many different ways to do it, but if one could provide conditional dependencies (i.e. if "something" is installed and "language-support-xx" is, then also depend on "something-translations-xx"), it would be easy to make right [13:10] alternative is to just have "something-language-support" which would be periodically updated [13:10] latter is likely better to avoid package number explosion [13:11] has someone an idea why gproftpd did a step backwards in versioning? see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gproftpd and compare the versions for hardy and intrepid [13:14] danilos: apparently Carlos looked into it with some of the Ubuntu people and found that a universe pack might not be all that big. (Until it gets big, I guess :-) ) [13:14] geser: Looks like somebody deleted it without blacklisting it. [13:14] That's the only explanation I can find. [13:14] jtv: the problem is how to decide when to install it? i.e. install even if no single universe package is installed? [13:15] danilos: yes, it does seem wasteful—pretty soon you'd end up saying "always" [13:15] jtv: as far as we are concerned, it's all about ubuntu packaging, and has nothing to do with launchpad... however, if xfce has been pushed to universe, those language packs are going to grow :) [13:15] wgrant: shouldn't it then be listed in removals.txt? at least I can't find it there [13:16] geser: I'm waiting for it to download... [13:16] You'd need to ask an archive admin, I guess. [13:16] It was manually removed, not superseded. [13:16] <\sh> geser, WTF! [13:17] `# Deleted on 2008-05-09 by Martin Pitt (renamed to gadmin...) ' [13:17] And it was autosynced almsot three weeks later. [13:17] <\sh> hmmm? [13:17] found it now too [13:19] <\sh> that's more then strange [13:19] <\sh> and totally buggy now [13:19] pitti should have blacklisted. [13:20] <\sh> but if it's renamed to gadmin...why is it still in debian then? [13:21] Because Debian is probably being slow. [13:22] <\sh> or gadmin doesn't exist at all..only as gadmintools as binary from gproftpd source [13:22] <\sh> (regarding p.d.o) [13:22] Yet. [13:23] <\sh> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gadmin ? [13:23] it got renamed to gadmin-proftpd (the comment got cut off :( ) [13:23] <\sh> *grrr* ;) [13:24] <\sh> there it is === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [13:57] i got an email from mailman for "Post to moderated list", but the list is empty. the list is ubuntu-l10n-fas . anyidea? === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [14:47] hi everybody, my launchpad project cannot import my SVN trunk [14:47] that's what I get from the log: 2008-06-03 12:57:56 WARNING N changeset 1 2008-06-03 12:58:28 WARNING N changeset 2 2008-06-03 12:58:30 WARNING N changeset 3 2008-06-03 12:58:35 WARNING N changeset 19 Import failed: Traceback (most recent call last): Failure: twisted.internet.error.TimeoutError: User timeout caused connection failure. [14:47] that's the link for the import attempts [14:47] https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/subdownloader/trunk [14:47] any help? [14:57] mib_epwir3, it means that the repository we are importing from is flaky [14:57] ah, google code [14:58] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+faq/24 [15:08] thks kiko, so what can I do from my google code svn ? only option is use http://bazaar-vcs.org/svn2bzr ? === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [15:10] mib_epwir3, you can do a few things. a) yes, svn2bzr. b) wait and hope the import will succeed at some point. c) help us fix the svn reconnection bug in cscvs :) [16:06] hello [16:06] i'm trying to push some code to a new branch and i get "bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()" [16:07] Stavros, you have to set your Launchpad username with: bzr launchpad-login username [16:07] then it will use bzr+ssh to push [16:07] beuno: oh, thanks, let me try that [16:08] Stavros, you're using bzr 1.3.1, right? Default with Hardy? [16:08] beuno: windows, actually... 1.5 i think [16:08] ah, 1.3 :/ [16:08] i'm a bit behind [16:08] Can someone help me figure out why I can't use the email interface? I get no replies at all for anything. [16:09] Stavros, well, the message is better in the newer versions, that's why I asked :) [16:09] beuno: ah :) [16:09] well i'm trying to find out which one i had installed, so i can upgrade [16:09] but eh, windows [16:09] Stavros, you can keep up to date using the bzr PPA: https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive [16:09] aaaah [16:09] windows [16:09] * beuno runs [16:10] haha [16:10] i'm using that for my linux servers [16:10] :) [16:10] hi, is there a way to delete a series from your project? [16:10] you have a Windows installer in the download page, so you should be fine too [16:11] ignas: you have to make a question on Launchpad [16:11] beuno: doesn't that install it somewhere differently? i installed from source now anyway [16:12] beuno: but i get a different error message :/ [16:12] bzr: ERROR: Target directory lp:~stavrosk/muddrop/main already exists, but does not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push there anyway. [16:12] i'm not sure whether i should use-existing-dir [16:13] ah, i did and it should work now [16:13] Stavros, yeah, you should :) [16:13] launchpad's interface is a bit confusing :/ [16:13] Stavros, ah, if you install from source, then yes, you can install from source again [16:14] and, if you're a risky fellow, you can even run the trunk, and just "bzr pull" ocasionally [16:14] oh, interesting [16:14] it's stable enough, many of us use it, but, well, it's a bit on the edge :) [16:14] are the releases tagged? [16:14] yes they are [16:14] that's great [16:15] how can i do that? [16:15] man [16:15] that's amazing [16:15] (we may be getting a bit off-topic, so maybe we can move to #bzr?) [16:15] oh yes [16:15] that is true [16:15] :) === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:20] where can i change my project details so it uses code/etc? [16:22] Stavros, https://launchpad.net/project_name/+edit [16:23] oh right, i missed the code part, thanks :/ [16:42] how come a bug being closed in RH bugzilla as "CLOSED" "UPSTREAM" is interpreted by launchpad as Invalid? (see bug #175904) [16:42] Launchpad bug 175904 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox-3.0 window moves to current workspace" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175904 [16:53] Ng: maybe the bugzilla sync didn't happen yet? it looks like it was only closed yesterday [16:53] gmb might know more about this [16:53] intellectronica: I only noticed because I got a mail from LP just now telling me redhat had marked the bug invalid [16:53] oh [16:53] Ng, intellectronica: Let me take a look... [16:55] Ng: It's because we currently don't handle CLOSED UPSTREAM properly. The UPSTREAM part is confusing our code. === Ekushey is now known as bubut [16:55] Ng: Can I assume that this should be mapped to Fix Released? [16:56] We really shouldn't be defaulting to INVALID, though. That's just bonkers. [16:56] gmb: I wouldn't like to hazard a guess generally, but in this case they were closing the bug against Fedora 7 because of two reports it was fixed in Fedora 8 and 7 was going end-of-life, so in this case Fix Released seems reasonable [16:57] Ng: Right. It seems sane to me. I'll file a bug. Well, two, because of the defaulting-to-invalid thing. [16:57] cool :) [16:58] gmb: shouldn't we default to UNKOWN, just in case other statuses we don't grok appear? [16:58] intellectronica: That's my thinking, yes. [16:58] cool === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === cprov is now known as cprov-out === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [18:46] how to create a milestone in launchpad ? [18:50] tacone, go to the a series page and add milestone. [18:50] tacone, trunk is a series [18:51] oh, ok that's what I missed. trunk is a series, and milestone belongs to series. nice, thank you. [18:52] kiko: is there a way to remove a series ? [18:54] tacone, you need to request it via answers.l.n [18:54] ok, kiko, thanks. === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara [19:53] * CyberKing is away from keyboard: Gone away for now. === CyberKing is now known as Ekushey-AFK === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [20:15] * Ekushey-AFK is back. === Ekushey-AFK is now known as CyberKing [21:00] hello. i am trying to get my ppa repository to work. but it seems no folder was created for my account in the ppa.launchpad.net folder. [21:01] ping kiko [21:01] zwnj: are you pinging kiko, or are you telling me to ping kiko? [21:02] sportman1280: i was just pinging kiko [21:03] sportman1280: what's your problem? [21:03] i mean, which error do you get? [21:03] zwnj: i get a 404 error when trying to view my ppa repository [21:03] sportman1280, you need to upload first. [21:03] zwnj: when i dput, i dont get an error or anything but nothing has been created yet [21:03] kiko: i did about 30 minutes ago [21:15] sportman1280, have patience. [21:15] zwnj, yeah? [21:15] kiko: oh, i forgot [21:16] kiko: iirc all official l10n teams used to be a member of a specific team [21:16] what happened? [21:16] ubuntu-l10n-fa is not a member of any team right now [21:18] no, that's not true. [21:18] l10n teams are not members of a specific team, necessarily [21:19] they are listed as part of a translationgroup [21:19] but that's something different [21:19] uh, ok [21:19] so that's a rosseta feature, right? === ubuntu-l1ptop is now known as ubuntu-laptop === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === ubuntu-laptop is now known as gnomefreak [22:07] zwnj, yes, exactly [22:53] is it typical to take 20+ min to push a < 5MB branch? [22:54] (initial push using bzr push lp:~newz/ubuntu-website/ubuntu07) [22:54] newz2000: How much upstream bandwidth do you have? [22:54] 768k [22:54] Then yes :) [22:54] abentley, failure. [22:55] newz2000: Oh, wait. [22:55] should take less than 1m [22:55] newz2000: Yeah. [22:55] maths is hard. [22:55] I totally got 5 and 20 mixed up. === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [22:56] - [========== ] Transferring 0/4 [22:56] * soren goes back to less arithmetically challenging things [23:00] kiko: I am not a failure. I'm a unique snowflake. [23:01] abentley, PQM seems to think otherwise [23:15] bzr is complaining that a branch is locked, and I want to unlock it. :/ [23:15] javaJake: try "bzr break-lock" [23:15] bzr crashed in a funny way that hasn't released the lock [23:15] OK... trying now... [23:19] Looking good so far... [23:19] Launchpad.net seems a little slow today. :P === mwhudson__ is now known as mwhudson [23:21] OK, it works! [23:21] Thanks guys! [23:21] no worries [23:36] hello people [23:51] * jelmer wonders what happens to mpt's gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning wishes [23:57] jelmer: he changed timezones ... now it's a gooooooooooooooooood evening ;)