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PmDematagodahello there04:53
EvanCarrollAnyone using gnome and ssh keyauth have a second to confirm a bug for me? tell me before you try it: gnome-terminal --hide-menubar --full-screen -e "ssh host-with-passkey"07:53
persiaEvanCarroll: Does it need to be a cached passkey?07:56
EvanCarrollno, in fact it can't be. ssh-ask -D to uncache it.08:03
EvanCarrollthe bug is in gnome-ssh-askpass08:03
EvanCarrollyou won't get the asking if you have it cached (or that's another bug for another day)08:03
EvanCarrollbe prepaired to drop to a tty and kill it08:04
persiaEvanCarroll: No worries.  I don't cache it.  I'll give it a shot then.08:04
EvanCarrollI've already submitted an unconfirmed bug report08:04
persiaEvanCarroll: Works fine for me.  I get a prompt, enter my passphrase, and get access.08:05
persiaEvanCarroll: Maybe you need to have a password-caching tool enabled, but the password not currently cached to reproduce?08:07
EvanCarrollare you using gnome-terminal in fulls screen?08:08
persiaEvanCarroll: Not typically, but I did run `gnome-terminal --hide-menubar --full-screen -e "ssh revu.ubuntuwire.com"` to test.08:08
EvanCarrollby password casching, I have a passkey caching app, (an agent), the agent caches after I enter in my password once, but this bug is in the entering mechanism.08:09
EvanCarrollHrm, persia are you using hardy, and was gnome-terminal in full screen when you got the prompt?08:09
persiaEvanCarroll: Yes, and Yes (and I don't use the GUI prompt, not having any SSH passphrase cacheing tool enabled)08:10
EvanCarrollah that's it you're not using gui prompt, which is the package with the bug (gnome-ssh-askpass)08:11
EvanCarrollpersia: how did you disable the guiprompt to go back to ssh-ask?08:11
persiaEvanCarroll: I never enabled it?  (This machine is continuous-upgrade from Sarge or so)08:12
nicolasvwEvanCarroll: I can confirm I didn't get the prompt when in fullscreen. Killing gnome-keyring-ask I was able to regain control of the terminal.08:13
EvanCarrollyea, but you had to drop to tty to do it right?08:13
nicolasvwEvanCarroll: yes08:14
EvanCarrollthat's all i need. thanks a ton moving to confirmed08:14
persiaBe sure to mention that it requires use of ssh-ask-pass to generate the bug: it's about ssh-ask-pass not exposing the prompt, rather than about gnome-terminal or ssh.08:15
EvanCarrollright, ni the title ;)08:15
EvanCarrollHARDY: gnome-ssh-askpass does *not* grab keyboard or focus if contested with other apps08:16
persiaBe careful about too strong a fix.  You ought at least be sure that gok is allowed to override.08:16
EvanCarrollI still want to know how to disable gnome-ssh-askpass, I guess I'll look into that tomorrow. I want the agent to run, I just want to revert to using ssh-add, I think the issueis all of this is tied to seahorse which i think is a competing agent.08:16
persiaseahorse can be configured not to be a SSH agent.08:17
EvanCarrollWhich is odd to because another bugg would be ssh-add -D will null the cached seahorse keys, but ssh-add -x will not lock out the access to seahorse keys08:17
EvanCarrollpersia: I don't think I'm going to try to fix this, at least not right away. I don't do much with GUI and have no knowledge of gnome-apis08:18
EvanCarrollbut I agree with the other guy this window show be of the same sort gksudo uses and not with typical window decorations08:18
persiaEvanCarroll: Understood.  It was the --full-screen that gave it away :)08:18
EvanCarrollWell, I use virtual desktops and dual monitors. So one monitor is a full console, one is a firefox or some other gui app.08:19
EvanCarrolland I use the feature show on all desktops heavily, so I can jump around with one gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal tabs/screen etc.08:21
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affluxmorning14:52
emgentheya15:04
affluxideas on bug 229185? What's the problem here and how should this be fixed?15:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 229185 in gdecrypt "main.py crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22918515:29
affluxgdecrypt uses the hal information to display / gather information about encrypted volumes. Do you think it's okay to just not display those volumes that are not resolvable through hal?15:30
sbarjolahi all16:12
bdmurraygood day16:19
affluxmorning bdmurray16:43
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bdmurrayafflux: morning16:57
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greg-gbdmurray: quick idea I couldn't find a bug/blueprint for in Launchpad18:58
greg-gbdmurray: and the link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GregGrossmeier/QuickNotes/SimplifiedLink18:58
bdmurraygreg-g: that sounds reasonable - you looked for malone bugs regarding this already I take it?19:00
greg-gbdmurray: I searched the "Launchpad Itself" project19:01
greg-gfor both bugs and blueprints19:01
greg-gI should probably write up a blueprint huh? :)19:02
bdmurrayI think a bug would be sufficient.  I'd be happy to advocate for it too19:03
greg-gok, I just figured since it was more a feature request that affected the UI they would like a blueprint, but I'll take your word for it ;)19:04
bdmurraygreg-g: bug 141215 is related but not the same19:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 141215 in malone "Viewing a bug in the wrong context should allow user to jump to one of the right contexts" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14121519:07
ubot3Malone bug 141215 in malone "Viewing a bug in the wrong context should allow user to jump to one of the right contexts" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14121519:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 141215 in malone "Viewing a bug in the wrong context should allow user to jump to one of the right contexts" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14121519:07
Piciugh, bots19:07
leoquant?19:08
greg-gmutliple bots competing for our attention19:10
thekornbdmurray, hi, do you know how to activate apport in hardy?19:10
bdmurraythekorn: modify /etc/default/apport to 1 instead of 019:11
greg-gbdmurray: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/23715319:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 237153 in launchpad "[Request] Provide Simplified Links for Bugs" [Undecided,New]19:11
ubot3Malone bug 237153 in launchpad "[Request] Provide Simplified Links for Bugs" [Undecided,New]19:11
* greg-g goes to pack for the trip, be back later19:11
thekornbdmurray, ok, thanks, but wasn't there some nessecarry gconf settings?19:12
greg-gthekorn: I think you also need to restart for it to take affect19:13
naliothPici: say what?19:13
bdmurraythekorn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed19:13
Picibug 119:13
bdmurraythat has the gconf bit for enabling notifications19:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119:13
ubot3Malone bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119:14
thekornbdmurray, greg-g , thanks19:14
Picinalioth: thanks, that works too19:14
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yuriy!apport19:43
ubottuFactoid apport not found19:43
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greg-gwhere do my hardware profile reports go after I give my email address to the application and hit send?19:58
greg-gie: I want to link to it for the -proposed subscription tracking bug19:58
thekorngreg-g, https://edge.launchpad.net/~yourlplogin/+hwdb-submissions20:00
sbarjolabdmurray, I was looking bug 22676620:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 226766 in linux "cannot start-up Ubuntu/Kubuntu live CD 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22676620:00
greg-gthekorn: cool, thanks20:01
sbarjolai think that maybe a duplicate of bug 9730620:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 97306 in casper "[feisty] installer reports I/O error dev fd0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9730620:01
bdmurraysbarjola: I think the buffer i/o error on sr0 is the key bit here20:03
bdmurrayogasawara: Is there a debugging kernel boot problems page?20:06
ogasawarabdmurray: not that I know of20:10
ogasawarabdmurray: there's the general remove 'usplash' and 'quiet' options and see what the errors are (if any)20:10
bdmurrayogasawara: that seems like it might be useful, like common kernel boot parameters to try.  particularly what to do if you end up at an initramfs prompt20:11
ogasawarabdmurray: right.  I think that's sort of documented in misc wiki pages already, but I can try to put something more specific together20:11
bdmurrayThat would rock! ;)20:12
sbarjolabdmurray, then there's a problem with the CD-R ?..20:38
sbarjolaanyway, should ask the reporter to see the bug20:39
sbarjolabecause there is a problem with fd0 too20:40
sbarjolasorry, I didn't see last comment20:45
bdmurrayno problem20:45
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greg-gbdmurray: only if you have a second: I remember a situation where I had marked something as "Fix Committed" because the bug had been fixed upstream but I was told we should reserve "Fix Committed" to when there is a package in either -proposed or stable+1.  Is this understanding still correct?22:34
james_wgreg-g: I know the desktop team use fix committed to mean fixed upstream.22:49
james_wbut generally I think the idea is to reserve it for where there is a package on its way to the archive.22:50
greg-gjames_w: ah, gotcha, thanks22:51
bdmurraygreg-g, james_w: the general idea is yes on its way to the archive23:05
greg-gbdmurray: cool23:05
bdmurrayso if fixed in the the bzr branch or in -proposed fix committed23:06
greg-gnice looking checklist btw23:06
bdmurraygreg-g: thanks!  maybe your loco can give it a test run. ;)23:06
greg-gI just pointed it out to the people who I got to run it :)23:07
bdmurraysweet23:07
hggdhbdmurray, ping23:38
bdmurrayhggdh: hi!23:39
hggdhthe Checklist -- should we also add an option for bypass available?23:39
bdmurrayBy bypass do you mean workaround?23:40
hggdhyes23:40
hggdhin the description23:40
bdmurrayYeah, good catch! adding to the description and *not* changing the status makes sense to me23:40
hggdhsometimes we do have workarounds, but they are usually lost in the middle of the comments23:40
bdmurrayhggdh: right absolutely23:40
hggdhbdmurray: you do it, or I? :-)23:41
james_wbdmurray: nice list, thanks for creating it.23:41
bdmurrayhggdh: I'm in the middle of something else and the moment so if you could that would be great.23:41
bdmurrays/and/at/23:42
hggdhbdmurray: roger willco23:42
hggdhjames_w: indeed it is a very good thing...23:42
nickelleryHi all, are people aware that Bug 176132 for today's Hug Day is marked as private?23:44
ubottunickellery: Bug 176132 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/176132 is private23:44
bdmurraynickellery: which list was that in?23:44
nickellerybdmurray, the jpeg ones23:45
bdmurrayAh, I forget to exclude private bugs in my query then23:45
bdmurraynickellery: I made it not private23:46
nickellerybdmurray: alright, thank you23:47
nailorwhat exactly happens to incomplete bugs that reach their deadline? status set to invalid? mail to all subscribers? ...?23:48
bdmurraynailor: their expiration deadline?23:48
nailoryes23:48
hggdhbdmurray, done. Thank you.23:49
bdmurraynailor: for Ubuntu bug reports nothing yet.  There are a couple of things blocking enabling expiration23:49

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