asac | lool: how can we roll -updates for diverged packages to hardy PPA? | 00:03 |
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asac | do we need some official staging area to get some QA first? | 00:03 |
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persia | good morning | 01:00 |
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dholbach | good morning | 07:58 |
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lool | asac: The staging area is going to be the ppa | 10:33 |
lool | asac: And we will then promote updates to the mobile archive | 10:34 |
persia | lool: I'm looking at bugs 215842 and 218251. In the latter, you recommend against my solution for the former. | 10:36 |
persia | Are you sure we don't want a conffile for that? I prefer conffiles as they can be purged, whereas maintainer-script generated files tend to stick around... | 10:36 |
lool | persia: hahaha, I was a good guy one month ago | 10:37 |
lool | persia: That comment was just to make sure that /etc/default/locale shouldn't be in a package | 10:37 |
lool | And I was bitten by this no longer than two days ago, because it's shipped in ume-config-common | 10:38 |
persia | Is it now? Then why is the bug with my patch still open? If that patch was applied, it ought be closed. | 10:38 |
lool | persia: if you run simple-vm-builder, it will hand waiting for a merge during the vm creation | 10:38 |
lool | dpkg -L ume-config-common| grep locale | 10:39 |
lool | /etc/default/locale | 10:39 |
lool | * Add a default locale for builds to support UTF8, etc. Patch by Emmet | 10:39 |
lool | Hikory. | 10:39 |
lool | -- Steve Kowalik <stevenk@ubuntu.com> Thu, 29 May 2008 18:20:32 +1000 | 10:39 |
persia | That's why I don't understand why 215842 is still open. That's from where the patch comes. | 10:39 |
lool | Probably an omission | 10:40 |
lool | persia: Would you like to fix shipping of /etc/default/locale? | 10:40 |
lool | What should happen is more something in the postinst like: if /etc/default/locale exists and sets a locale, leave it alone, otherwise create or set the locale | 10:41 |
persia | lool: Actually, I prefer it as a conffile: I just encountered your recommendation against it being a conffile, and thought it might be worth discussing in case we want to change it before we ship. | 10:42 |
persia | OK. How do we unset the locale later then? | 10:42 |
persia | (on package removal)? | 10:42 |
lool | persia: It can't be handled like a conffile in UME and not anywhere else | 10:42 |
lool | persia: Not sure whether we want to unset the locale | 10:42 |
persia | OK. I can see the case for not unsetting it. I'll push a fresh config with maintainer-script handling then. | 10:43 |
lool | thanks | 10:43 |
lool | persia: And if you like, you can verify that it breaks e.g. simple-vm-builder if you're not convinced about not shipping it as a conffile? | 10:44 |
lool | It would also break if you'd install ume-config-common on e.g. a regular system | 10:44 |
persia | It oughtn't break, just cause conffile-collision handling. | 10:45 |
lool | Yes; but it's supposed to provide either defaults or overrides, not change the way a file is handled :-/ | 10:45 |
persia | lool: Right. I'll fix it in the next hours :) | 10:46 |
lool | Ultimately, I suppose we're missing an "install" step where such a file would be created, just like /etc/hosts; this could be done with the current install.sh hacks | 10:49 |
persia | Do you think that is better than in ume-config-common? | 10:50 |
StevenK | Personally, I think ume-config-common is a bad idea, and stuff it does should be handled on install | 10:51 |
persia | (You say "ultimately", but I read it as "before this upcoming release") | 10:51 |
persia | Let's do it on install then. Where do we need to stuff the hook? | 10:51 |
lool | persia: I meant in a future cycle / world | 10:52 |
lool | persia: Doing it on install would mean rerolling a MIC; we could do it as it's still planned to move to the new sources.list | 10:53 |
persia | lool: Right. My worry is that if we do it wrong now, we're somewhat stuck. There's no purge part during the upgrade, and unmarking conffiles is an ugly hack. | 10:53 |
persia | StevenK: How are we on rerolling a MIC? | 10:53 |
lool | Yes, I agree it's ugly to fix this later on | 10:53 |
lool | persia: If you do it in install.sh, be careful that it might busybox sh | 10:54 |
lool | I think u-v-b has a good shell snippet of what's needed, but it might need to happen at the end of install | 10:55 |
* persia needs guidance on where to put stuff for install.sh, but isn't worried about busybox vs. bash | 10:55 | |
lool | persia: Grab MIC | 10:56 |
lool | platforms/common-apt has the initramfs stuff | 10:56 |
persia | Right. MIC. Thanks. | 10:57 |
lool | install.sh is called from platforms/common-apt/initramfs/usb and /cd if present in the initramfs | 10:57 |
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ogra | persia, /etc/default/locale gets rewritten by gui tools on locale changes | 11:03 |
ogra | a conffile wouldnt be clever here | 11:03 |
persia | ogra: Right, which is why it is being removed :) On the other hand, those GUI tools aren't in UME right now (see bug 218251) | 11:04 |
ogra | but they might be in the future | 11:04 |
persia | -ENOBUGBOT https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/+bug/218251 | 11:04 |
persia | ogra: Right. | 11:05 |
ogra | i.e. in a netbook image there should be as many desktop tolls from the defaut install as possible imho ... else we have to maintain everything twice | 11:05 |
ogra | *tools | 11:05 |
persia | ogra: Which reminds me, have you put together a meta for your netbook interface idea? | 11:06 |
ogra | i.e. we should at least use the same backends .... | 11:06 |
lool | persia: The GUI tool is in customer builds though | 11:06 |
* persia wants to test on the Kohjinsha, as neither Mobile nor Ubuntu is a good fit | 11:06 | |
ogra | well, the meta is ubuntu-desktop ... i need to put together a theme and gconf settings | 11:06 |
ogra | the app selection is 100% ubuntu-desktop yet | 11:06 |
persia | ogra: Just gconf settings? That's enough to change the interface? Nothing new is required? | 11:07 |
ogra | ah, well, devilspie to make metacity behave like matchbox ... and a two line devilspie config | 11:07 |
ogra | and one little script hack to get the close button in the panel | 11:08 |
ogra | ut the rest is gnome ui changes | 11:08 |
ogra | *but | 11:08 |
* persia imagines a seed depending on Ubuntu-Desktop and containing a single -settings package | 11:08 | |
ogra | well, -sessings and -theme | 11:08 |
ogra | nd yes, that was exctly the idea :) | 11:08 |
ogra | find the apps in ubuntu that misbehave and add proper gconf keys .... and have the world fixed in one go :) | 11:09 |
davmor2 | Guys just to let you know the KVM version of RC1 is more reliable than the mic version | 11:09 |
persia | Does anyone have a ume-config-common-0.12-1-0ubuntu0 source package? | 11:09 |
ogra | no desktop app maintenance apart from the fixes and patches which might even be able to go upstream | 11:09 |
persia | Upstream is good :) | 11:10 |
ogra | :) | 11:10 |
StevenK | persia: I have it locally, I think | 11:13 |
persia | StevenK: Did it exist anywhere else? Can we get it back, or do we need to push -2? (Assuming that few people are expecting continuous upgrade to work at this point) | 11:15 |
lool | persia: -0ubuntu0? | 11:17 |
persia | lool: The PPA gave me a diff file exactly matching that which I want to revert against -0ubuntu0 | 11:18 |
lool | persia: The PPA has indeed | 11:18 |
lool | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive?field.name_filter=ume-config-common&field.status_filter=any | 11:18 |
lool | (0.12-1-0ubuntu0) | 11:18 |
persia | Aha! Now, to delete the new one (and save uploading a paper bag)... | 11:19 |
StevenK | Hah | 11:20 |
StevenK | persia: So you don't need me to find it? | 11:20 |
persia | StevenK: Nope. lool knows LP well enough to save us both the effort :) | 11:20 |
StevenK | persia: Heh, fine | 11:21 |
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persia | The PPA archive-admin stuff isn't so bad, really. | 11:34 |
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cprov-lunch | persia: ehe, I will take it as a compliment ;) | 11:35 |
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persia | cprov-lunch: If you're responsible, you ought :) | 11:38 |
lool | persia: cprov-lunch beeps on "ppa", guess how responsible he is :) | 11:43 |
* persia ponders the difference for being responsible for a thing and being responsible for creating a thing | 11:44 | |
* persia seeks peer review of http://paste.ubuntu.com/16558/ as a solution for /etc/default/locale before committing | 11:58 | |
ogra | persia, does that check if the file exists and is pre-set somewhere already ? | 12:14 |
ogra | (your patch doesnt seem to) | 12:15 |
asac | lool: are you on amd64? | 12:16 |
persia | ogra: Nope. This is run on the initialisation of the filesystem, prior to any packages. | 12:16 |
ogra | ah | 12:16 |
persia | Is that safe? | 12:16 |
ogra | looks fine imho | 12:16 |
ogra | well, thats what i do in all my chroots as well ... does it run locale-gen soewhere with the matchng value ? | 12:17 |
ogra | (it wont be pregenerated nowadays) | 12:17 |
persia | Hrm. I'll have to look for that. In previous testing, the mere existence of /etc/default/locale was enough to make most applications behave (as in use UTF8 rather than POSIX) | 12:24 |
ogra | i'm not sure which package does the locale-gen today ... it used t be done in the locale package, then moved to language packs but might be in language-support now which you likely dont want in default mobile as it pulls in tons of extra stuff you dont need | 12:25 |
persia | ogra: Yeah. I think I'll just stuff in this file for now, as I believe pushing it at filesystem-creation time is better than pushing it at ume-common-config time, and has fewer negative implications. | 12:28 |
persia | Tracking down locale-gen can be done another day. | 12:29 |
ogra | yeah | 12:29 |
cprov-lunch | persia: thanks (and yes, I try to be responsible in both sense) | 12:40 |
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lool | asac: I have an amd64 box | 13:32 |
asac | lool: ok, then the libflashsupport problem is not that bad (referring to mail) | 13:34 |
lool | asac: ogra questionned by 64-bits use as well | 13:34 |
ogra | asac, what makes me curious is that lool says it works fine on debian with the debian version | 13:35 |
ogra | (32 bit here) | 13:35 |
asac | no pulse? | 13:36 |
asac | debian version of what? | 13:36 |
ogra | libflashsupport withour pulse ? would that make sense ? | 13:36 |
ogra | libflashsupport | 13:36 |
ogra | <lool> ogra: I'm using a custom install of libflashsupport on Debian/i386 (1.0~2219-1) and 1.9-0ubuntu1 on Ubuntu/amd64 | 13:36 |
ogra | from -devel ^^^ | 13:36 |
asac | lool: a custom install? | 13:38 |
asac | can you post the build config for that please? | 13:38 |
asac | lool: what kind of system spec does the debian system you test on have? | 13:39 |
lool | (hold on, phone) | 13:44 |
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ian_brasil | i am trying to add an icon to the grid desktop and the info on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UMEGuide/ApplicationDevelopment/AddingIconToDesktop does not seem to work | 13:58 |
ian_brasil | any ideas? | 13:58 |
persia | ian_brasil: Did you add OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Mobile; ? | 13:59 |
ian_brasil | no...where do i add this? | 13:59 |
StevenK | In the .desktop file | 13:59 |
persia | In the ,desktop file. | 13:59 |
ian_brasil | ah ok | 13:59 |
persia | Also, I'd recommend just putting it in /usr/share/applications, unless you have a good reason to do otherwise. | 14:00 |
persia | Ubuntu Mobile no longer only looks in /usr/share/mobile-basic-flash/applications/ | 14:00 |
ian_brasil | ok..i will update the wiki | 14:01 |
persia | ian_brasil: Thanks. | 14:01 |
ian_brasil | so it looks in /usr/share/application first ..then /usr/share/mobile-basic-flash/applications ...then anywaher else? | 14:06 |
StevenK | It looks in /usr/share/applications only | 14:06 |
persia | (and subdirectories thereof) | 14:06 |
lool | asac: I'm using the universe flashsupport on Ubuntu/amd64 | 14:07 |
lool | The custom install probably comes from the website of flashsupport for the Debian install | 14:08 |
asac | lool: ok. we should figure their build config then. what version? | 14:08 |
lool | 1.0~2219-1 | 14:09 |
ogra | is that packaged already ? | 14:09 |
ogra | (in the archive i mean) | 14:10 |
lool | Yes, not the smae version | 14:10 |
ogra | it wasnt even in experimental and not clear if it would go in when i looked last time | 14:10 |
lool | On Ubuntu, I have 1.9-0ubuntu1 | 14:10 |
ogra | and it ships a hard openssl dep iirc | 14:10 |
lool | libflashsupport | 1.9-0ubuntu2 | intrepid/universe | source, amd64, i386 | 14:10 |
ogra | right | 14:11 |
ogra | the code should be identical though ... both pulled from pulse git which didnt change since a year or so | 14:11 |
asac | lool: where did you get that custom package from? | 14:11 |
ogra | there is an alioth repo | 14:12 |
lool | However there's also a new flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound | 14:12 |
lool | Sorry, I mean flashplugin-nonfree-pulse for pulse | 14:12 |
ogra | yeah, seems they renamed it | 14:12 |
lool | It's split actually | 14:13 |
lool | I can't find flashplugin-nonfree-pulse though; only flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound which refers to it | 14:13 |
asac | lool: how do you test? | 14:13 |
ogra | http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-pulseaudio/flashplugin-nonfree-pulse.git | 14:13 |
asac | lool: the test case is going back and forward on youtube until flash/firefox crashes (if you dont have nspluginwrapper) | 14:13 |
lool | asac: Nothing in particular, I open flash videos | 14:13 |
asac | lool: well. try the case above | 14:13 |
asac | go to youtube video, wait for movie to start, go to new youtube video, wait for start, go back + wait, go forward + wait | 14:14 |
asac | if you dont have nspluginwrapper in between + you are sure libflashsupport is loaded (e.g. strace) and you are sure that pulse is actually used by flash, then we might have a fix :) | 14:14 |
ogra | i wonder how that should have magically appeared though | 14:15 |
lool | asac: how many times? | 14:15 |
asac | remember that crimsum uploaded some workaround/fixes to intrepid. maybe those are already in debian now. | 14:15 |
ogra | lookig at that git repo there are no changes to lennarts code at all | 14:15 |
ogra | asac, that was to get rid of the fixed openssl dep .... | 14:16 |
asac | lool: no idea. i never made it to 10 retries | 14:16 |
ogra | nothing that would affect non encrypted playback | 14:16 |
lool | I see flashplayer in pavucontrol | 14:16 |
asac | lool: but the slower your sytem is the less likely you will hit the deadlock | 14:16 |
asac | ogra: well ... crimsun also claims that he fixed the crashes in his upload | 14:16 |
lool | I certainly crash my system from time to time on flash videos | 14:16 |
ogra | asac, oh | 14:16 |
lool | my browser I mean | 14:16 |
asac | ogra: i pinged him multiple times for the last two week to get input on what he did, but he closed all bugs | 14:17 |
asac | never got a reply though | 14:17 |
ogra | hmm | 14:17 |
asac | lool: try the testcase above ... if that doesnt crash your browser then its a good sign | 14:17 |
asac | ogra: remember that crimsun had a fix for it in hardy on also side, however that wasn't regression free. | 14:18 |
asac | maybe he uploaded to intrepid in the hope that those can be fixed during cycle | 14:18 |
ogra | the upload i see in intrepid only changes one dep | 14:18 |
asac | s/also side/alsa side/ | 14:18 |
ogra | * debian/control: Conflict with flashplugin-nonfree versions older | 14:18 |
ogra | than intrepid's while allowing for backports (LP: #192888). | 14:18 |
asac | ogra: yes, but i think that he uploaded other packages in that batch | 14:18 |
ogra | * New upstream beta fixes many crashers (most significantly | 14:19 |
ogra | LP: #192888). | 14:19 |
ogra | flash itself | 14:19 |
asac | yeah ... i could reproduce the crashes with flash 10 ... the version i tried at UDS | 14:19 |
asac | so that alone cant be it ... unless the current upload is more recent and indeed fixes things | 14:19 |
asac | lool: using flash 10 from intrepid? | 14:19 |
lool | No | 14:20 |
asac | and zero crashes? | 14:20 |
lool | 9.0.124.0ubuntu2 | 14:20 |
asac | (when doing the test?) | 14:20 |
lool | Certainly not zero crashes in general, but I've hit a least 8 times back/forward in youtube now | 14:21 |
lool | On the same video | 14:21 |
asac | not that bad | 14:21 |
lool | Note: one of my CPU is at 100%; it's a fast system, but could behave like a slow system in this case | 14:21 |
asac | lool: can you reproduce the crashes on ubuntu? maybe respin the debian libflashsupport on ubuntu? | 14:22 |
asac | lool: building? | 14:22 |
lool | Not building, just playing the video | 14:22 |
lool | It's the same on both computers since forever with flash | 14:22 |
asac | sure you are using flashplugin nonfree? | 14:22 |
asac | strnage | 14:22 |
lool | I got a crash the very first time I connected to youtube today, but since that... | 14:23 |
ian_brasil | is there some way to turn icons on or off?...like i want cheese icon to appear in gnome but not in hildon | 14:23 |
persia | ian_brasil: The OnlyShowIn key is the best mechanism to control that. | 14:24 |
ogra | but will switch the item on/off completely | 14:24 |
persia | ogra: Selectively, so you can show or not show in e.g. GNOME or Hildon | 14:24 |
ogra | the xdg spec could need an addition | 14:25 |
lool | asac: [pid 21542] open("/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so", O_RDONLY) = 3 | 14:25 |
lool | [pid 21542] open("/usr/lib32/libflashsupport.so", O_RDONLY) = 35 | 14:25 |
ogra | persia, yes, but ian_brasil wants to switch visibility of the icon without losing the entry i guess | 14:25 |
ian_brasil | right | 14:25 |
asac | lool: looks like nspluginwrapper? | 14:25 |
ogra | the xdg spec doesnt provde such a feature | 14:25 |
persia | Hrm? How is a menu supposed to show an invisible icon? | 14:25 |
asac | that will guard you from crashes | 14:25 |
asac | lool: check whether npviewer is running while playing flash | 14:26 |
ogra | it will falll back to the default icon in gnome | 14:26 |
ogra | not sure hildon has such stuff | 14:26 |
persia | ian_brasil: Could you summarise this use case? I'm fairly familiar with the specs, but a little tired now... | 14:26 |
ian_brasil | ok...i will mail the list | 14:27 |
lool | asac: Hmm pavucontrol is failing on the amd64 box; probably due to old pa env vars, but new pa running | 14:28 |
lool | asac: Oh you mean I should remove nspluginwrapper? | 14:28 |
asac | lool: well ... if nspluginwrapper is used you wont see the crashes ;) | 14:29 |
asac | so on 64-bit its not an issue for us | 14:29 |
asac | not sure about debian, but if you ar e on 64-bit there too then you wont see the bug | 14:29 |
ogra | and on i386 we'll catch it the same way in intrepid :) | 14:29 |
lool | I'm on i386 on Debian | 14:29 |
asac | hopefully | 14:29 |
asac | lool: maybe debian has nspluginwrapper on i386? | 14:30 |
lool | So I'm sorry guys, I'm a bit lost in what you wanted me to test | 14:30 |
ogra | flash without nspluginwrapper on a ubuntu system using pulse :) | 14:30 |
lool | I just know I have been using libflashsupport (heck, I even hacked it for my previous job to make flash decode audio for us :-) but what crashes other people I don't know | 14:30 |
ogra | preferably i386 | 14:30 |
lool | Ok; I tested that on Debian only | 14:30 |
ogra | right, if debian doesnt use nspluginwrapper that sounds like a fix for us ... | 14:31 |
asac | lool: i just wanted to know whether you have nspluginwrapper on your debian install | 14:31 |
ogra | but we dont seem to differ in code at all | 14:31 |
ogra | which is weird | 14:31 |
lool | I don't have nspluginwrapper on my Debian install | 14:32 |
asac | because its strange that you dont see the crash | 14:32 |
asac | lool: but you installed flashplugin-nonfree from somewhere ... maybe that includes nspluginwrapper? | 14:32 |
asac | if no npviewer is running then you probably dont use it. and we should see why you dont get issues | 14:32 |
lool | On Debian [pid 27823] open("/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so", O_RDONLY) = 60 | 14:33 |
lool | [pid 27823] open("/usr/lib/libflashsupport.so", O_RDONLY) = 50 | 14:33 |
asac | lool: you have a link to the debian source package you use? | 14:33 |
lool | I don't see any process with np | 14:34 |
asac | k | 14:34 |
lool | I use libflashsupport (1.0~2219-1) unstable; urgency=low | 14:34 |
lool | -- CJ van den Berg <cj@vdbonline.com> Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:29:54 +0100 | 14:34 |
lool | I think I got it there http://pulseaudio.revolutionlinux.com/PulseAudio | 14:35 |
lool | Ah http://pulseaudio.vdbonline.net/libflashsupport/ dropped | 14:35 |
lool | http://pulseaudio.vdbonline.net/ has flashplugin-nonfree-pulse_0.1~000.dsc | 14:35 |
asac | hmm | 14:37 |
asac | i think i am too tired ;) | 14:38 |
lool | I think the pulse impl was rewritten at some point, but IMBW | 14:38 |
ogra | it was | 14:40 |
ogra | by lennart -... back when he still was DD | 14:40 |
ogra | but he didnt touch it since | 14:40 |
lool | He isn't DD anymore? | 14:41 |
ogra | and now he works for RH keeping him busy with other stuff | 14:41 |
ogra | he still is, but makes no use of it | 14:41 |
davmor2 | pulse and avahi if I remember correctly isn't it ogra | 14:58 |
ogra | thats what he did in debian, yes | 14:58 |
ogra | now he works for RH, does rpm's and doesnt care much about debian packaging anymore | 14:58 |
ogra | we talked a bunch in prague | 14:59 |
davmor2 | :( | 14:59 |
ian_brasil | this is intersting -> cheese does not have OnlyShowIn but it appears in hildon ...others also do not have OnlyShowIn and do not appear..seems like some default list | 14:59 |
ogra | ian_brasil, its always more than just the .desktop files, the .menu files have impact as well on what is shown and what not | 15:00 |
persia | ogra: There's a bit of a specialty implementation for Ubuntu Mobile... | 15:00 |
ogra | i.e. if you disable an item in alacrate in ubuntus normal desktop it wont change the NoDisplay value of the .,desktop file but add a ~/.local/menus/*.menu file ecluding it | 15:01 |
ogra | well, and then there are mobile hacks as well apparently :) | 15:01 |
emgent | heya | 15:04 |
ogra | err, sorry, its ~.config/menus/ | 15:04 |
ian_brasil | another queston..i want to write a status panel plugin in python to shutdown the system..this is possible right | 15:36 |
ogra | tricky if you dont use the default desktop ... i.e. dont have a gdm socket to send the signals to | 15:38 |
persia | ian_brasil: For what conceivable reason would you ever want to shut down a MID? Aside from system crashes, I've never turned off any of mine for the past several years. | 15:38 |
persia | Hibernate is the key, and setting a short sleep timer. | 15:38 |
ogra | or suspend :) | 15:38 |
ogra | have a look at pm-utils for that | 15:39 |
ogra | pm-hibernate and pm-suspend specifically | 15:39 |
ian_brasil | it is not a MID i am developing for! | 15:40 |
persia | Aha! In that case, yes, just hook into pm-utils :) | 15:41 |
ogra | well, for shutdown/reboot you either need a DM to do it proper or add evil hacks to sudores or so | 15:41 |
ogra | pm-utils doesnt provide hooks for shutdown/reboot iirc | 15:42 |
ian_brasil | ok thx | 15:43 |
ogra | for gdm you would want: gdm-signal -h or -r | 15:44 |
ogra | assuming you have gdm running with autologin | 15:44 |
ian_brasil | i want to do something like gnome with turn off reboot, suspend, hibernate | 15:44 |
ogra | why not use the gnome one then ? ... | 15:45 |
ogra | oh, wait you dont use gnome-panel/-session i guess | 15:46 |
ogra | where the dislog is implemented | 15:46 |
ogra | *dialog | 15:46 |
ian_brasil | i am using gdm :) | 15:46 |
ogra | its easy to en/disable features in that dialog through gconf keys andchanges to gdm.conf | 15:46 |
ogra | well, thats a start, try with the gdm-signal command | 15:47 |
ian_brasil | ok | 15:47 |
ogra | it also offers interfaces to suspend/resume i think (calling pm-utils in the backend) | 15:47 |
ian_brasil | gdm-signal does not work..not even with sudo | 15:48 |
ian_brasil | i will reboot and try again | 15:49 |
ian_brasil | gdm-signal does not seem to work...does not return anything | 15:54 |
ogra | hmm | 15:56 |
ogra | i know thats what gnome-session uses internally | 15:57 |
ogra | gnome-session/gdm-logout-action.c and gnome-session/logout.c use it extensively | 15:58 |
ogra | (directly though, not through the gdm-signal binary) | 15:58 |
ian_brasil | i tried with xfce too and that does not work either | 15:59 |
ogra | hmm | 16:03 |
ogra | looks like it doesnt work here either | 16:03 |
ogra | it comes from powermanagement-interface which isnt really maintained anymore (just as compatibility layer for pm-utils) | 16:04 |
ogra | hmm, strace shows its using wrong strings to send to gdm | 16:26 |
ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/16599/ | 16:26 |
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ogra | ian_brasil, hey, the trick is to end your session, gdm-signal only queues your comand until the session has ended, then gdm executes it | 17:21 |
ian_brasil | ogra: cool..i'll try that | 17:29 |
ogra | i just found that out by accident when my system suspended while i had only logged out :) | 17:30 |
ailean | guys, can anyone help me choose an ubuntu-friendly smartphone/pda? I'm not overly concerned about running ubuntu/linux ON it (although that would be nice), just to be able to use it with my ubuntu laptop well. | 18:16 |
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bspencer | anyone tried to use yelp in UME? | 23:12 |
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