[00:07] @btlogin [00:31] * elky_work screams at fedora's rpmness [00:32] should we make ganjaman change his nick? [00:34] i dont think it's worth educating the rest of the channel to what it means === ubot3` is now known as ubot3 [01:24] lo [01:27] hi [01:29] ola [01:34] tomaw: are you as nocturnal as I am? [01:34] Nah, I work 9-5, sleep a bit and then wake up [01:35] fair enough [01:35] at least during work days, I do [01:35] I only see you onlyine late at night [01:36] Who is Dave Walker? [01:37] ah, Daviey [01:37] at least probably [01:37] * nalioth knows Johnny Walker [01:37] * mneptok knows the runs ... [01:38] tomaw: correct [01:38] * tomaw felt a lot better after seveas blog post was countered by Daviey [01:39] Not to say that freenode didn't break some +i channel modes, we certainly did, but it made me at least feel a lot better. [01:40] heh [01:43] Asking freenode staff to burn in a fire on a public blog doesn't really sit well with me, but it hardly changes the fact that work together :) [01:45] er, that we'd be better working together. [01:45] there are problems that need fixing [01:47] This is a work night for me so I can't stick around until 7am, but by all means tell me what [01:47] if you need to resort to email then I am quite happy for that [01:48] I mean generically [01:49] So, what generic problems? [01:49] I'm not directly involved in the staff / op "conflict" (for want of a better word), so I'm probably not going to be very good at describing the situation accurately [01:50] acknowledging that it exists, at least imo qualifies you to guess a bit :) [01:52] to be honest, I don't know how much of the bad feeling has survived seveas leaving [01:52] knowing that may be useful in itself. [02:16] CALEB_WELLEMEYER is spamming via PM upon entering #ubuntu, he's just been booted from #debian [02:16] 21:09 -CALEB_WELLEMEYER(n=CJ@61.105.175.69)- astro76, R u sick and tired of being in chat rooms dat r boring, not fun, and lame? Want 2 finally join a chat room that is off da chain and 100% awesome? Well #CALEBCOOLCHAT is the place 4 u. We do nothing but have fun in da chat, hosted by me, CALEB WELLEMEYER. So if u want a fun chat, 2 have fun, or maybe even meet a new best friend, come to [02:16] #ALEBC OOLCHAT today. [02:17] mneptok: ^ [02:17] stand by [02:17] heh, excess flood [02:17] he just quit [02:17] he's back [02:17] and gone again [02:17] and back [02:19] cheers folks [02:19] and being 'mediatorized' [02:23] hmm... want 2 finally join a chat room that scores 0% on a spelling quiz? (as though efnet isnt already full of them!) [02:25] elky_work: ? [02:34] hrm [02:35] fwiw, the spam quite spam quite guys are sometimes somewhat fixable by staff. [02:35] erm, quit* [02:36] when you add a k: let us know :) [02:36] what sort of things should be reported to staff? [02:36] as I said a few nights ago, klining is not a magic bullet [02:36] in many cases if a user can avoid a ban they can avoid a kline. [02:37] Hmm, anyone actually understand pulseaudio? [02:37] except a single kline is like a ban in all channels [02:37] it's one command compared to a game of chasey [02:37] when you add a $method_for_keeping_user_off_ubuntu_channels let us know :D [02:38] which is what we usually end up doing with the ones we ask for klines for [02:38] I'm trying to find a way to mute all other sounds when I have an incoming call in Ekiga. [02:38] elky_work: tbh if staff spot a guy being an idiot in channel we will often follow him [02:38] how many people have actually been banned in #ubuntu*? [02:39] tomaw: when we're busy chasing them through channels is usually when we get told we cant get help [02:39] Seeker`: thousands? [02:39] tomaw: while you're following, we're keeping channels sane. so while any efforts are appreciated, sometimes Freenode's needs to jibe with Ubuntu's. [02:39] tonyyarusso: I mean banned in all channels [02:39] tonyyarusso: not the sum of each channel [02:40] Seeker`: oh. {x|0 although, someone really does need to invent /mode +b #namespace* bans. [02:40] mneptok: the reverse is also true :) [02:40] elky_work: see my suggestion on the irc mailing list [02:41] elky_work: For who, I must ask [02:41] Seeker`: -enotwithemail [02:41] tomaw: the ones end up chasing through every #ubuntu channel with more than about 10 people [02:41] tomaw: except you brought it up, i didn't ;) [02:41] tomaw: it's not uncommon to have idiots run through all the channels screaming rude things [02:41] elky_work: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2008-June/000470.html [02:42] elky_work: and you don't get decent help from staff who are around at the time? [02:42] tomaw: i usually dont, given my timezone [02:43] elky_work: is that more that there are non available or that you don't get what you need from those that are? [02:43] tomaw: a bit of both. [02:44] tomaw: it's not like there's a smorgasboard of staff to choose from if one says no [02:44] elky_work: yeah, your timezone really isn't one we cover very well sadly [02:45] tomaw: which is probably why hobbsee and i fall into the 'most bitter' category. [02:45] flip_543 (n=flip@174-105.96-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #ubuntu same guy? [02:45] wellemeyer = spammer [02:45] elky_work: could you do me a big favour and copy help requests to me or poke me with channel names and that like as you're having problems? [02:45] -02:44:52- ~s~ ruiboon > (n=ruiboon@unaffiliated/ruiboon) has joined #ubuntu-irc [02:45] -02:46:12- :ruiboon : hi. could the ops check if Wellemeyer at #ubuntu should be ban, upon entering the channel, he/she pm a non-family friendly msg [02:45] he's in #ubuntu [02:46] maco: wellemeyer = not on network [02:46] yes he is [02:46] he just PM'd me when i entered #ubuntu [02:46] tomaw: will do so from now on [02:46] tomaw: time to show your quality, sir [02:46] tomaw: back with a new nock and hostmask [02:46] 21:43 maco, R u sick and tired of being in chat rooms dat r boring, not fun, and lame? Want 2 finally join a chat room that is off da chain and 100% awesome? Well #CALEBCOOLCHAT is the place 4 u. We do nothing but have fun in da chat, hosted by me, CALEB WELLEMEYER. So if u want a fun chat, 2 have fun, or maybe even meet a new best friend, come to #CALEBCOOLCHAT today. [02:47] *nick [02:47] see? [02:47] * mneptok waits [02:48] I get the message from him too [02:48] k-lined [02:48] L-lined [02:48] yay [02:48] er, L- [02:48] ...K- [02:48] Dave2: you suck :P [02:48] M-lined [02:48] quite :( [02:49] KLM-lined? what, now i have to /connect Schilphol for c00l ch4t? [02:49] wth is m-lined? [02:50] it may well be typo-lined [02:50] ah [02:50] followed by joke-about-typo-lined [02:50] elky_work: k, l, m, ( who's next? ) [02:51] elky_work: m: means you can connect and send /msg's to users and channels, but cannot use vowels. [02:51] aha [02:51] (popular on abu-gheidic networks) [03:23] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (ubunguru) [03:37] Agent_bob called the ops in #kubuntu (fatherTheresa1 needs help.) [03:38] on it [03:38] ok then [04:42] Pici: no, he hasn't changed. he's still fiddling with bugs without reading them (white found it last night) [04:42] good work on declining him. [04:47] is this who i think it is? [04:49] * nickrud hopes they aren't talking about him _again_ [04:50] haha [04:50] nickrud: i *think* we're talking about kmos [04:51] hobbsee's bestest friend [04:52] hm, I think I'm gonna slide away a bit, avoid the pointy stick flailing around [04:52] hehehe [04:55] elky_work: yeah [04:56] elky_work: that being said, seveas did a brilliant job in -1'ing, so hopefully he won't try to apply for another few months. [04:56] pity about the bugs, though [04:58] heh [04:59] * elky_work hunts for this morning's -meeting logs [05:00] considering today has been wasted installing xp to test stupid ie issues... i think i can spend a few minutes laughing at this [05:00] ouchy. no wine? [05:03] nickrud: :) [05:05] * elky_work notes the protesters may have shut up if they were linked to mark's email... [05:06] Hobbsee: wine and ie is substandard [05:06] does not take into consideration windows application interactivity, and cannot provide genuine ie7 render engine yet [05:07] ahh [05:07] ie, 'why does this pdf not open properly' [05:07] s/ie/eg/ [05:08] right, yeah. [05:09] fair enough [06:02] *blink* [06:02] moin [06:03] moin Myrtti bunny [06:04] morning all [06:04] *yyyyyyyaaaawwwnn* [06:07] err. [06:07] I don't know how to take rodserlings line in offtopic [06:08] In ubottu, elky_work said: bunnies is z0mg! fluffy bunnies! Guaranteed to bring out the teenage girl in everyone: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Widget+Background:+Fluffy+Bunny+?content=74480 [06:09] oh bah === elky_work is now known as elkbuntu [06:09] In ubottu, elkbuntu said: bunnies is z0mg! fluffy bunnies! Guaranteed to bring out the teenage girl in everyone: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Widget+Background:+Fluffy+Bunny+?content=74480 [06:09] I HATE YOU UBOTTU [06:09] @login [06:09] Myrtti: The operation succeeded. [06:09] @login [06:09] elkbuntu: The operation succeeded. [06:09] :D [06:09] !bunnies [06:09] bunnies is z0mg! fluffy bunnies! Guaranteed to bring out the teenage girl in everyone: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Widget+Background:+Fluffy+Bunny+?content=74480 === elkbuntu is now known as elky_work [06:10] have fun [06:10] someone make it a gdesklets/screenlets one too [06:11] hehehe [06:11] elky_work I hope you meant tweenage girls [06:12] I swear to gaia, I'm going to sew that little t-shirt with ubuntu logo for my guinea pig. [06:12] jussi01: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/27/funny-pictures-jurassic-park-sequel-haz-lower-budget/ [06:17] In ubottu, elky_work said: no, bunnies is z0mg! fluffy bunnies! Guaranteed to bring out the tweenage girl in everyone: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Widget+Background:+Fluffy+Bunny+?content=74480 [06:17] * elky_work stabs ubottu === elky_work is now known as elkbuntu [06:17] @login [06:17] elkbuntu: The operation succeeded. === elkbuntu is now known as elky_work [06:50] * SportChick pets elky_work [07:12] alan_m called the ops in #ubuntu (ewtjklas) [07:16] that was fun [07:19] somehow I get the feeling I've banned someone with "otg" as ident before [07:19] @btlogin [07:19] on-the-grass? better have resident geezer ompaul shake a cane at them [07:20] and so it is [07:20] on the grass? [07:20] is this something I should know? [07:20] no [07:20] thinking of things otg could be an acronym for [07:20] work with me here - I needed to make a geezer joke [07:21] 2008-05-14T08:54:12 跑俾阿 [07:21] 2008-05-23T10:22:49 我是子於 [07:21] 2008-05-23T10:22:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o nixternal [07:21] I have an idea of what that means [07:21] but I think we can safely assume that this is a repeat offender [08:40] Yay evolution has decided it will download my all mail and spam folders this evening :D [08:40] i mean morning [08:44] yay for 3g connectivity :D [08:44] bit of lag, but not bad at all [09:00] hrm, we have quite a few bans in here - do we really need them all? [09:04] * jussi01 wonders where everyone is? [09:05] apart from java user many could probably be cleared [09:06] mind, like 4 of them are for naked goat [09:07] I don't see a ban on java user [09:08] if there was, i would suggest that should be one of the ones removed first due to its non-specificness [09:09] only the worst spammer in ubuntu space [09:14] ok, got to go - see you all later [10:35] !prayer [10:35] Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so. [10:36] *sigh* [10:36] Good morning Myrtti. [10:36] ♥ Pricey [10:36] :) [10:37] You get up at a silly time btw. [10:37] dumdidumdidum [10:37] at 8? [10:37] ah, thought time went the other way [10:37] how's that silly? it's late [10:37] I'll let you off this time. [10:37] should wake up at 7, then it would be ok [10:38] I'm installing Windows XP to a VirtualBox >-| [10:38] joy [10:38] person refuses to do a 15 minute job and insists that I'll do it myself [10:38] have to install Visual Studio C# express too [10:39] of which, I know about as much as horses know about bicycles [10:39] "I'll show you how it's done" [10:39] fcol. He has Visual Studio right there [10:39] knows how to do it... [10:40] atleast I managed to find my Windows XP installation CD which I've never used === Myrtti is now known as Myrtti_ === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [12:14] morning [12:15] seems like a quiet day [12:15] All the hilights in my away log during the night were cursing in #ubuntu, fun. [12:42] I'm getting a bounce every our or so on ubuntu-irc :/ [12:42] *hour [12:43] hmm? [12:43] *unsubscribes the address* [12:43] oh [12:43] that [12:44] I thought you mean the channel. [12:44] I thought that too [13:02] PsySine: Morning, how can we help you today? [13:03] good afternoon, is this the place to talk about locobots? [13:03] Not really, the locoteam channel or #ubuntu-irc would be the proper place. [13:04] ok, thanks [13:14] PsySine: is there anything else we can help you with? [13:14] nope :) [13:18] PsySine: Please take note of the /topic [13:22] PriceChild: going to prune again sometime? [13:22] PriceChild: there clearly at least was a rat in here. [13:25] PsySine: hello again [13:26] Jack_Sparrow: what was jampy up to? (Just curious...) [13:27] I think he was trying to disrupt.. but that command does not work here in freenode. [13:27] I msg'd him to ask what he was up to when he ran off [13:27] soundray: Some people seem to think that we serve files here, !list is a common command to use on fserv-ing channels to see what software we offer. [13:28] Pici thanks for the proper description [13:28] Jack_Sparrow: I've never seen it used for legitimate software distribution, if you get my drift [13:28] Agreed [13:28] I see, thanks... I'm only ever on freenode, and rarely on anything but ubuntu channels :) [13:28] it's not up to networks [13:28] such a sheltered life [13:29] it's up to clients and software used, I believe [13:29] a trigger just like all the other clients have [13:29] or bots [13:29] Indeedy, unless the network blocks certain types of ctcps [13:30] right now, I'm just so fed up with almost anything and everything, that I'm || this close to telling people to sod off faar faar away from my life [13:31] Myrtti: if you do end up killing them, hide the bodies well. [13:31] PsySine: Is there anything we can do to help you? [13:31] Myrtti: :( [13:31] Hobbsee: I wouldn't mind getting jailed. Free holiday and all, away from these idiots [13:32] Myrtti: there are *more* crazy ones inside. [13:32] I don't usually get this frustrated over anything but the miserable state of my socila life [13:32] but now I just feel like I've had it [13:33] * elky cuddles Myrtti tight. [13:33] I just had to check what I had in my competence profile under C# [13:33] Seeker`: i'm trying to figure out the "scope" of this channel actually [13:34] Myrtti, 'goddess' right? [13:34] :) [13:34] This is a channel for operators in #ubuntu channels to share information etc. [13:34] I've apparently been stupid enough to confess that I know jack **** about it, but am intrested in it. Apparently that translates into "oh, this person has windows xp, visual studio 2005 and knows bits and pieces of the damn thing, ie. can write a compiler of C# in C#" [13:35] Seeker`: does that include the loco channels? [13:35] PsySine: to try to provide some sort of coordinated response against possible attacks / malicious users [13:35] PsySine: nope, that's for -irc [13:35] most of us are in -irc too as we are loco ops too [13:36] and I, for one, always report the most disruptive users to -irc so the loco channel ops know and are aware and can prepare themselves [13:36] PsySine, we keep team channels separate for sanity reasons [13:36] * Hobbsee is already insane. [13:36] I'm a basket case [13:36] brrrlll. [13:36] come and take me away.' [13:37] ok thanks for the info :) [13:37] tack för dig själv [13:37] usch [14:21] Hobbsee: how do you mean? [14:22] PriceChild: people leaking information outside of this channel, bringing us certain visitors. extremely coincidental. [14:22] PriceChild: of course, they could be using cron on logs.u.c, and grepping that way. [14:22] Hobbsee: who are we referring to? [14:22] as in who have been the visitors, not who you think is in here [14:23] PriceChild: i don't know who's here. [14:23] PriceChild: and the visitor is $she_who_can_not_be_referred_to [14:23] ah, just reading logs again [14:23] i'd meant to point it out a few days ago, but i forgot. [14:24] * PriceChild does a /names [14:24] I don't think I'm worried about any of the geeks in here atm? [14:24] elky: still awake? [14:25] PriceChild: well, it may well be a cron job. and the times match up with that theory relatively well (as in, logs get published online at .01. [14:25] yep, it is an hourly cron on the hour [14:25] and the entry was at .02 or .03 or so. [14:25] elky_work: still awake? [14:26] but even so, as a general reminder,it may be a good time to clear it out again [14:26] PriceChild: i doubt it, it's 11.30pm [14:30] no ubuntu cloak yet? :) [14:33] glade88: how can we help you? [14:34] nothing. just finding a place to keep my head :) [14:34] @/ubuntu/member/glade88 [14:34] oops.. [14:34] this channel isn't for idling [14:34] i was told this was :( [14:35] glade88: #ubuntu-irc allows idling. [14:35] glade88: were you thinking of that one? [14:35] i guess [14:35] no actually. i had a doubt [14:35] i was told that we shall get a cloak.. [14:36] shoud I fire this up at #ubuntu-irc ? [14:36] oh, right, you want a cloak. PriceChild can do that. [14:36] And when shall I ask him for the same? [14:36] glade88: What is your launchpad page? [14:37] https://launchpad.net/~sayakb [14:37] I guess I'm still not put up as an Ubuntu member.. we had a meeting last night (20:00 UTC) [14:38] glade88: Yeah, it takes a while. Best to wait in #ubuntu-irc anyway. [14:38] okay.. I'll do that. Thank you [14:39] that was odd [14:40] I just mentioned ubuntu cloaks and he appeared [14:45] /me plays a sweet little creepy tune to bazhangs ear [14:46] was actually referring to Myrtti and Pici (congrats btw) [14:48] bazhang: Thanks :) [14:48] Pici, none more deserving (other than Myrtti obviously) :) [14:48] :P [14:49] sorry I missed the meeting; really wanted to be there but mis-calculated the time. [14:49] @schedule local-city [14:49] Theme from Twilight Zone plays softly in the background [14:49] Seeker`: Error: Unknown timezone: local-city - Full list: http://jussi01.com/web/timezones.html [14:50] bazhang: ^ [14:52] Hobbsee: hi there [14:53] Oh, I wonder who that was.. [14:53] PriceChild: not emma. [14:53] who knows.... [14:53] PriceChild: wrong hostmask. [14:53] ikonia: do you know? [14:53] no....it could be anyonwe [14:53] i don't know [14:53] no....it could be anyone [14:53] ;) [14:53] the $_name ammused me [14:53] what is the command to list info about people connected from a host [14:54] one of her trolls, no doubt. and she says she has none, and also doesn't look at the log. [14:54] Seeker`: /who [14:54] Hobbsee: it was me, I was giving you a quick troll [14:54] ikonia: awwwwwwwwwww [14:54] spoilsport [14:54] I didn't fancy the rage of Hobbsee so thought it best to own up [14:54] ikonia: ahhh, of course. [14:54] /whois ftw [14:54] ikonia: i was getting there. hte mattd looked familiar. [14:54] Hobbsee: /who 88-97-208-57.dsl.zen.co.uk ? [14:54] Seeker`: yeah [14:55] yay, zen customers. [14:55] I've got a autorealname [14:55] the only uk host to have [14:55] loooooooooseeeeerrrs [14:55] autorealname ? [14:55] * Hobbsee attacks ikonia with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ [14:55] [16:52] *** I_cannot_be_name (Matt Darcy) [n=mattd@88-97-208-57.dsl.zen.co.uk] [14:55] Hobbsee: that is what I feared [14:56] [23:56] [Who] End of /WHO list for 88-97-208-57.dsl.zen.co.uk [14:56] strange. [14:56] Myrtti: link to the script? [14:56] Hobbsee: ? [14:56] ikonia: Be aren't too bad [14:56] Seeker`: fcol. irssi.org/scripts. [14:56] blast your mind out [14:57] Seeker`: yes, they are one I've heard positive reviews on, but it's area specific [14:57] :-P [14:57] ikonia: I connect at 14Mb/s [14:57] ah yes, you used a /whowas [14:57] dumdidumdi [14:57] actually download at about 12Mb/s (1.5MB/s) [14:58] /me is going to do some grilled shrooms filled with cottage cheese and leeks, wrapped in bacon [14:58] Seeker`: clearly a solid connection in Bath [14:58] dumdidumdi [14:58] Myrtti: make that cheddar/mozaralla, and it sounds really nice :P [14:58] an old proverb (not that old actually, and from a finnish meat commercial) "Good food, better humor" [14:59] Seeker`: I was going to put blue cheese, but (LOL!) it was moldy [14:59] ie. had the wrong kind of mold [14:59] I dont like blue cheese [14:59] bluecheese mmmmmmm [14:59] ikonia: Their DNS is a bit rubbish though [14:59] @schedule helsinki [14:59] Myrtti: Schedule for Europe/Helsinki: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 04 Jun 00:00: Community Council | 04 Jun 09:00: Platform Team | 04 Jun 19:00: LoCo Council | 05 Jun 00:00: Server Team | 05 Jun 01:00: Kubuntu Team [15:00] bazhang: ^ [15:00] @schedule London [15:00] Seeker`: Schedule for Europe/London: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 03 Jun 22:00: Community Council | 04 Jun 07:00: Platform Team | 04 Jun 17:00: LoCo Council | 04 Jun 22:00: Server Team | 04 Jun 23:00: Kubuntu Team [15:02] can someone send me a PM? [15:02] * Hobbsee attacks Seeker` [15:02] * Hobbsee attacks Seeker` with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™, via PM [15:03] haha [15:03] thanks Hobbsee and Myrtti [15:03] autowhois ftw [15:04] it is cool [15:14] yay for my new business cards with GPG fingerprints on them. Will make life so much easier ;) [15:14] Mez: excuse me, but LOL? [15:14] Myrtti, why ? [15:15] oh, nvm. [15:15] it's just so... geeky. [15:15] /me resists the urge to make the obvious question [15:15] which is? [15:15] "are you single" /me hides [15:16] * Mez covers Myrtti with a blanket [15:16] out of sight, out of mind ;) [15:17] /me wails loudly here, too [15:17]