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Tippercody-somerville: that wad the point when i click add it doesnt work00:24
DaveKongAnyone know how to get sound working in zsnes?00:45
StroganoffDaveKong try to install the package alsa-oss00:57
DaveKongStroganoff: ok00:58
DaveKongStroganoff: not working... there anything else I need to do?01:00
Stroganofftry this: libsdl1.2debian-alsa01:02
DaveKongnope01:06
StroganoffDaveKong: Do zsnes --help in a terminal, NR1224, and you'll get a list of ZSES' switches, including the various sound formats you can use. Try each one of these, and see which work; then you can set it as default by editing /.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg where it says "libAO driver to use."01:09
Stroganoffthe sdl switch might work01:10
DaveKongNR1224?01:13
DaveKongI got a list of drivers01:13
DaveKongit is set to auto detect at the moment01:13
Stroganoffi pasted this from a ubuntuforums, NR1224 is a user01:13
DaveKongoh01:13
Stroganofftry to use the sdl switch instead of autodetect01:14
DaveKonghow do I use the switch?01:17
Stroganoffthe --help info tells you how to use it01:18
Stroganoffyou may upload the output for me to read. use bash redirecting to write it to a file like this:01:19
Stroganoffzsnes --help > zsnes-help.txt01:19
DaveKongok I put on in a file01:22
DaveKonghow do I upload?01:22
Stroganoff!paste | DaveKong01:23
ubottuDaveKong: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)01:23
DaveKonghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16508/01:26
Stroganoffzsnes -ad sdl01:28
DaveKongStroganoff:  That made the app load and the sound worked01:30
DaveKongalthough not very good quality01:30
Stroganoffok in zsnes go to sound options and change the buffer size01:31
Stroganoffand/or lower the khz01:31
Stroganoffyou could also try alsa and oss instead of sdl01:32
DaveKongso zsnes -ad oss01:33
Stroganoffyes01:34
DaveKong_system froze01:37
Stroganoffok...01:38
DaveKong_Stroganoff:  no idea why it did that but I rebooted loaded oss and the sound is great now. Many thanks!01:39
Stroganoffhehe01:40
eater9when I launch Pine from a panel launcher, it prompts for my password and then tells me "Trouble reaching remote configuration"03:32
eater99I think it must be a problem with the "Run in terminal" option ... ?03:32
zoredachedoes it work if you start it in a terminal?03:33
eater9yes, perfectly03:33
zoredacheyou could build a launcher that does something like - xfce4-terminal -x sh -c 'pine'03:35
eater9oh, wait, just enclosing the pine command string in single quotes makes it work03:36
eater9i guess space characters break it03:36
eater9now I know!03:36
zoredacheok.03:37
kattman_Making a Install cd help03:53
zoredacheand what are you having difficulty with?03:53
kattman_I trying to make a cd of x ubuntu from ubuntu bet it keeps crashing03:54
kattman_it a rw cd03:54
kattman_Do I need to do anythin first to the cd ?03:55
zoredacheyou should check the md5/sha some of the .iso   But aside from that you shouldn't have to do anything special03:56
zoredacheWhat program are you trying to use to make the cd?03:57
kattman_Basero04:00
kattman_The Burn tab is grey04:00
zoredacheI am not familiar with Brasero04:02
kattman_Thanks, I think Im going to try xp04:04
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Qkalli tried to upgrade to 8.04, i booted and nothing loads... currently in fail safe terminal..help :(05:26
Odd-rationaleQkall: did anything in the upgrade fail?05:27
Qkalli dont think so05:27
Qkalli think the panels are just not opening... like the bars05:28
Qkallthat and dbus05:28
Odd-rationaleQkall: so you got a terminal right now?05:28
Qkallyes'm05:28
Odd-rationaletry to remove the .config directory "rm ~/.config"05:29
Odd-rationalethen restart dbus "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"05:29
Odd-rationalethen logout "exit"05:29
Odd-rationaleand try logging in normally...05:29
Qkallremove the whole directory?05:30
Odd-rationaleQkall: yes05:31
Odd-rationaletry to remove the .config directory "rm -rf ~/.config"05:31
Odd-rationalesorry...05:31
QkallOdd-rationale: didn't work05:52
Qkallbut i kind of found a work around05:52
Qkallbut just have to figure out how to get it do load when i log on...05:52
Qkallit seems like xfwm4 and xfpanel do not load on start up05:53
Qkalli tried adding to the autostart applications...05:53
Qkallthis doesn't owkr05:53
Qkall:-\05:53
Odd-rationaleQkall: did you select xfce from the session menu?05:53
Qkallyes sir.05:53
Qkall..or mam.05:54
Odd-rationaleQkall: do you have a .xsession file or .xinitr file in your home dir?05:55
Qkallherm maybe i should have xfce4-sessoin start i just clicked on it for giggles and my old stuff loaded up05:55
Qkallherm i have neighter..05:55
Odd-rationalewhat is the output of "ls -a /etc/skel"05:56
Qkall.  ..  .bash_logout  .bashrc  Examples.profile05:57
Odd-rationaletry this: go to ctrl+alt+f206:00
Odd-rationaleQkall: ^06:00
Odd-rationaleyou shoudl see a login prompt. so login there...06:00
Odd-rationalewait. are you chatting from another computer?06:00
QkallOdd-rationale: lol yeah was on the same computer06:06
Qkallhehe06:06
Qkallbut figured a way around06:06
Qkallforced a xfce4-session to start06:07
Odd-rationaleQkall: ok. what did you do?06:07
Qkallall is well06:07
Odd-rationaleok good!06:07
Qkallthanks for your help06:07
Qkalli probably wouldn't of thought of it06:07
Odd-rationalewell i'm going to sleep. have fun guys!06:12
QkallOdd-rationale: thanks again06:16
Qkallnight06:16
XacarithAny one know how I can get my system to open .bin files?  Instead of trying to use wine09:02
TheSheepopen in what?09:04
Xacarithwine is trying to open .bin files  I don't know why.  .bin should be a native linux file09:04
TheSheepwhat do you want it to be opened with?09:05
XacarithWhat ever is suppose to open .bin files09:06
TheSheep.bin means raw binary data, it doesn't say anything about the contents of the file other than that's not text09:06
suRshello all09:35
suRsanyone here?09:41
ablomensuRs, yep09:42
suRsanyone know if op magement is good?09:44
Myrttiwhat?09:48
suRsi wonder if op manger is good09:50
suRsfor linux09:50
suRsi whanta  program were i can obtain ip addres from wlan and eth09:51
Myrttiop manager, ip manager?09:55
suRsyeah09:55
suRssome kinda ip manager i  need that09:56
Myrttia-ha09:56
suRsso i can use my wlan  when im in town09:56
suRs wirless :p09:56
suRscant anyone help me?10:22
TheSheepthe default one should work fine10:25
suRsi need10:26
suRsa program10:26
suRsthat can obtain ip adresses10:26
TheSheepa dhcp client, it's installed and used by default10:27
TheSheepit should just work10:27
TheSheepyou should have a small icon of two computers next to your clock10:28
TheSheepthat's the network manager10:28
suRswell i removed that one O_o10:28
suRsfrom my panel10:28
TheSheepyou can enable it in autostarted applications10:28
suRshm10:32
suRsok10:32
suRsits there10:33
totalwormage(you can! for suRes!)10:33
suRsbut it dosnt show when i start :p10:33
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mr_boohi11:44
mr_boowhy does my menu bar disappear sometimes?11:44
* TheSheep take out his crystal ball11:45
mr_boomight sound weird but it's actually true11:45
TheSheepeh, no batteries11:45
TheSheepyou will have to provide more details, a link would be a good start11:46
TheSheepah, sorry11:46
mr_boowondered if i accidently hit some key or did something weird w/o knowing about it11:46
TheSheepwrong channel :)11:46
TheSheepyou mean the panels disappear?11:46
TheSheepor just the menu?11:46
mr_booyup11:46
mr_boooh11:46
mr_boothe topmost with "Application  Places"11:47
mr_booit's just gone11:47
TheSheepwhole bar or just the menus?11:47
mr_boowhole bar is gone11:47
TheSheepand the bottom one is still there?11:48
mr_boonope11:48
TheSheepso the panel crashed for some reason :/11:48
TheSheephow much ram do you have?11:48
mr_boo22511:48
TheSheepshould be plenty enough11:49
mr_boothis occured after screen saver11:50
TheSheepthis is 8.04?11:53
TheSheepI guess you should report a bug11:53
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mr_booit's 8.04 yes12:00
mr_boohaven't tried to restart12:00
mr_boogonna do12:00
TheSheepmr_boo: you can bring the panels back by pressing alt+f2 and typing 'xfce4-panel', btw12:04
mr_boook12:06
mr_boothanks12:07
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roosIs the XUbunta DVD image ?14:02
michaelrammroos: No, regular CD. Only 544MB if I recall correctly.14:05
rooscorrectly, thanks =)14:05
roossoft from other DVD images, can i use to install on XUbuntu14:06
roos(my english so so..., and it's my first steps on Linux)14:06
kerimy ibm thinkpad t20 cant shutdown or restart even after adding noacpi at grub line and also tried acpi=force14:44
keridoes 8.04 fix this problem yet? ive been waiting for over a year now for a bug fix14:44
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roos_rusis someone russian here ?16:06
TheSheep!ru16:08
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roos_rus!ru16:09
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roos_rusTheSheep thanks )16:09
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NullNam1HELP! I needed to reinstall SAMBA on ubuntu 8.04, so I deslected SAMBA from "marked packages" in synaptic( the dozen or so services that are easily installed by checking and clicking apply)    I then noticed that /etc/samba still existed, so I removed the directory and all sub directories with "rm -r'   Now when I try to reinstall SAMBA, I get an error that states it can't find the samba config file.   THANks!16:43
zoredacheNullNam1: why do you need to reinstall?16:59
zoredacheanyway, the /etc/samba directory is part of the the package (samba-common) not samba.  You probably need to delete that as well17:01
lc2HAY GUISE17:06
StroganoffNullNam1, try dpkg --force-confnew samba-common17:09
Stroganoffdpkg --reinstall --force-confnew samba-common17:09
lc2so i have a question17:10
lc2is there anything like a ~/.xinitrc in xubuntu? (in before "yes, ~/.xinitrc", it doesn't work)17:11
Stroganoffxinitrc works only when using startx17:11
lc2kay17:11
lc2the moar you know17:12
* lc2 has just moved from freebsd ;(17:12
Stroganofftry XFCE Applications -> Settings -> Autostarted Applications17:12
Stroganoffsome day i'll install xfce to find out where the related config file is located..17:13
lc2mm17:13
* lc2 just wants to xmodmap his windows key to ctrl ;\17:13
Stroganoffhehe17:15
* lc2 had to do that once when the ctrl key stopped working, stayed in the habit of using it long after he got a new keyboard 17:16
Stroganoffyou can use the windows key in the xfce shortcuts, it's "Super_L"17:16
Stroganoffoh17:16
StroganoffDISREGARD THAT17:16
lc2indeed, the problem is every other program expecting ctrl to be ctrl ;\17:17
Stroganoffok add the xmodmap command to autostarted applications17:17
lc2i think i will17:18
* lc2 just added his old .xinitrc to the autostarted apps17:20
lc2okay, another problem i've had17:21
lc2xorg doesn't seem to think that my display is capable of running 1280x960, and thinks i can only do 1280x800 at like 53hz17:22
lc2when i used to do that at like, 7017:22
lc2my xorg.conf explicitly specifies what resolutions my display is capable of, but it doesn't seem to work17:23
lc2(i.e. when i try to change my resolution from the settings manager, it only shows some really puny resolutions, as above)17:24
lc2oh, UseEDID17:29
lc2lemme try17:30
lc2sweet.17:33
lc2UseEDID and using "Default" for the resolution brought great justice17:33
Stroganoffalternative would be adding a custom modeline to section "monitor"17:38
Stroganoffhttp://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/17:38
Stroganoffor google modeline generator17:38
lc2that's sorta what i did17:38
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thinkmassivewow compiz-fusion is awesome20:52
thinkmassiveI never realized what I was missing20:52
Odd-rationalethinkmassive: you'll gdt tired of it.... ;)20:53
thinkmassiveheh yeah, probably when my legs get burnt from the extra heat20:53
thinkmassiveit's definitely going on my home media box at home though20:54
Odd-rationalethinkmassive: i only have it to "show off". otherwise, i leav it off...20:54
thinkmassivegotta impress people to the point of saying "man, I need a new operating system that doesn't suck"20:54
lc2gnahhh20:54
lc2compiz = hate20:54
thinkmassive^^ exact words out of my roommate's mouth20:54
lc2hate hate20:54
thinkmassiveand that's without seeing compiz20:54
thinkmassivelc2: why?20:54
lc2thinkmassive: i'm a speed freak20:55
lc2thinkmassive: i turned off compositing because it made switching workspaces a fraction of a second slower20:55
thinkmassiveI hear ya, I always had that turned off but this just looks way too cool20:55
thinkmassiveat least on a media box ;)20:56
lc2i'd rather give myself a frontal lobotomy with a rusty screwdriver than have bloat, however cool20:57
* lc2 notes, that's the point of installing xubuntu20:58
* lc2 notes, his system is now speedy liek speedycat20:59
Odd-rationalelc2: xubuntu is getting kind of bloated itself...20:59
lc2Odd-rationale: runs fine here20:59
lc21.4 athlon :D20:59
Odd-rationalelc2: if i want less bloat, i'd go with *box or a tiling wm like awesome21:00
Odd-rationaleor lxde!21:00
lc2eh21:01
Odd-rationalehttp://lxde.sf.net21:01
lc2oooh21:02
lc2it looks kinda nice21:02
Odd-rationaleyeah, i know... it IS nice...21:02
Odd-rationalefaster than xfce....21:02
Odd-rationalealso uses pcmanfm which is kind of like thunar with tabs...21:03
lc2neat21:03
Odd-rationaleit uses openbox as the wm21:04
thinkmassiveI use xubuntu because I don't like gnome or kde21:05
thinkmassivespeed is always a concern but rarely an issue21:05
Odd-rationalei was a strong kde follower...21:05
thinkmassiveand then....21:05
Odd-rationalewell, right now i'm flirting with gnome...21:06
Odd-rationalei'll probably land back using awesome...21:06
thinkmassiveI started with gnome but it's just so big and clumsy21:06
thinkmassiveawesome?21:06
Odd-rationaleyeah, awesome!21:07
Odd-rationalei don't find gnome much heavier than kde...21:07
Odd-rationaleit is hard to create a minimalist system with kde/qt...21:08
thinkmassiveI really like the simplicity of xfce over the speed/mass savings, although I guess mass and simplicity are directly related21:08
Odd-rationalekde works best if you go all kde. then it is really8 good!21:08
thinkmassivesame with gnome21:08
N1ghtCrawlerHello, I want to decrease the taping sensitivity on my touchpad. I tried the synaptics manual but it's like greek for me. Anyone who can give me som pointers?21:09
thinkmassivebut each will always have the best apps for certain tasks21:09
Odd-rationaleN1ghtCrawler: there are 2 things you want to configure in your xorg.conf file: MaxTapTime and MaxTapMove21:11
Odd-rationaleMaxTapTime is an integer value that defines the maximum time for detecting a tap (in milliseconds)21:12
Odd-rationaleMaxTapMove is an integer value which defines the maximum movement of your finger for detecting a tap21:12
Odd-rationaleso in your synaptics section of your xorg.conf file try adding these lines21:13
Odd-rationaleOption  "MaxTapTime"   "180"21:13
Odd-rationaleOption  "MaxTapMove"   "110"21:13
Odd-rationaleyou can experiment iwht the values...21:13
N1ghtCrawlerwell, since i want tp deecrese the taping sinsitivity setting a lower maxtime would to the reverse?21:13
Odd-rationaleN1ghtCrawler: i would think so21:14
Odd-rationalealso, you would have to save the file and restart X for the changes to take effect...21:14
N1ghtCrawlerLike it's now i can just toutch it lightly whith my finger passing by when I type21:15
N1ghtCrawlerOdd-rationale: Setting a higer maxtime doers not affect the minumumtime witch i think is the problem?21:15
Odd-rationaleidk about that...21:16
N1ghtCrawlerprefferebly i want it to not react on taps unless they ar rather distinct21:17
N1ghtCrawlerI tried to apt-get qsynaptics but i get an errormessage that he could not find it21:19
Odd-rationaleN1ghtCrawler: there are ways to disalble touchpad when typing. search the forums for that...21:19
N1ghtCrawleryeah, I read something about it.21:20
N1ghtCrawlerGoogeling a bit i find that some other have the same problem with a silly sensitive touchpad21:21
N1ghtCrawlerit's more sensitive tan ny finger, the touchpad feels my finger before i feel the touchpad21:22
N1ghtCrawlerwell i laborate a bit with the settings you tiped21:23
Odd-rationaleany good?21:24
N1ghtCrawlerBut how do i restart x? ctrl+alt+backspace stops it and I have to reebot the coputer21:24
N1ghtCrawler*computer21:24
Odd-rationalewell reboot works as well... :P21:24
N1ghtCrawleryes, but if i dont want to, just restart X wint work. I get a black screen wothout any shell or anything21:26
N1ghtCrawlernow ctrl+alt+backspace worked.21:27
N1ghtCrawlerStrange.21:27
N1ghtCrawleractually i thing  the settings you provided worked out pretty well! Thanks!21:30
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DaveKongAre the updates which you get from update manager included in the live install builds?21:43
cody-somervilleDaveKong, hmm?21:44
DaveKongi.e. the new kernel builds?21:45
DaveKongI had some problems with hardy on my laptop and there have been some broadcom fixes to the kernel so I am wondering if it will help but not sure if it is part of the live distro or not21:46
zoredacheso you are asking if the livecd has been updated since it was release?21:47
DaveKongyea21:47
zoredacheI don't think so...  But the file dates on the download page should tell you21:47
cody-somervilleDaveKong, no21:48
cody-somervilleDaveKong, But 8.04.1 will be released soon21:48
DaveKongok thanks cody-somerville and zoredache21:48
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TheSheepcody-somerville: 8.04.1 ?22:18
cody-somervilleTheSheep, Yes. 8.04 is an LTS and will get point releases.22:18
TheSheepah22:19

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